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Beginner AdviceReason-and-rhyme/r/seduction22/01/13 01:40 AM
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This is literally the definition of monogamy: mutually exclusive access to sex and intimacy. Have you ever been on this forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:50 PM
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insane troll logic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:28 PM
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meds now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:17 PM
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We really don't understand the brain anywhere near enough for you to be using a term like "scientific fact" in a comment like this. Please refer us to your sources, assuming you have any that aren't blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:08 PM
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It doesn't. Media manufactures trends. Only women care about being up-to-date with style, and judge other women based on their apparel and body trends. People point to the late 90s and early aughts as a time when nigh-anorexic skinniness was "in". Their only evidence is modeling magazines and tabloid headlines criticizing normal weight actresses for not being skinny enough. I am completely unconvinced that men back then actually found that more attractive during those decades. Wide hips, a healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:38 PM
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Okay, now I understand you a little better. I was originally just responding to the vintage Bezmenov interview that guy dropped, not so much to the OP. It is entirely possible that disruption and hate across gender lines is being stirred up by foreign adversaries. I disagree that their reasons for doing so would have any reason to do with wanting domestic birth rates to decline, or that they want us to think they have all the perfect wives over there. Imo they probably just want us to have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:33 AM
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You're missing the bigger picture. "Demoralization" is a term of art that refers to denying and disrupting a people's potential for national unity and - if you believe in democracy - its' ability to engage in good faith popular debates about what their government should do. The economic and political elite in America has zero reason to encourage or even allow that. They do, in fact, have every reason to disrupt and disincentivize serious good faith political discussion. As for immigration, idk i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:01 AM
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I was hoping it would be the bezmenov interview. I'll only add, no one should delude themselves that the American empire, which is in the dying stages of a 30 year reign as the only superpower, is above using these demoralization tactics, including on their own people. Remember the time reddit accidentally revealed that Eglin AFB was "the most Reddit-addicted city" lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:42 PM
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Your point is well-taken, OP. But if you exist inside a culture, even if it is one as sick as this, there are certain things you must do to adapt to live within it, especially when simply leaving it (which may be preferable) is just not an option for most people. This whole "work on yourself" advice is, in theory, a means to the end of making connections. Having a bit of disposable income means you can go to bars and other places where people typically meet, spend money on dates once you land th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:34 PM
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He thinks the differences between different brands of plastic vagina are as significant as the differences between actual living human beings. God damn! am I ever glad I'm not you!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:45 PM
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I unno man, when I was 10 years younger I could get myself off and return to brainlessly horny within a couple hours. Maybe you do get more stupid and desperate by depriving yourself but when you're young I don't think any amount of jacking off can totally prevent dumb decisions being made out of lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:52 PM
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Then what do you need more than one for rofl, mf you got four dicks or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:48 PM
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Congrats on your perfect life. You're not really in the group being accused of hypocrisy by RP/incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:38 PM
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None of those factors are really the "standards" being discussed here. I would distinguish between "vertical" and "lateral" factors. Vertical factors are ones that increase a person's value as a partner in the eyes of almost everyone in society, thereby increasing the demand for that person and giving them more options. Things like (for men) height, build, facial aesthetics, earning potential, race, sense of style. The things you mentioned are what I'd like to call lateral factors because fittin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:03 PM
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I believe there's a subconscious calculus wherein men are less insecure with, and therefore have no hidden issues with committing to, a woman who isn't extremely hot. In fact, I think this works both ways. People are happiest in relationships when they genuinely believe they've landed someone who should be out of their league. Personal and sexual incompatibilities can preclude those relationships from working out long term, but if there's chemistry and the more conventionally attractive partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:32 AM
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lol no. it's not voluntary. maybe 1 in 100 is legit asexual and another 2-3 are far enough along the spectrum to not be bothered by a lack of companionship, but most of them are, like everyone else on the planet, desperate to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:11 PM
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You're right, it's not the same. If you have a credit card with a 50k limit and you don't have $50k, or anywhere close to $50k, that means someone is providing for you: giving you access to that wealth when you didn't have to earn it. Hence, a "gender ""wealth"" gap".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:02 AM
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I never said anything about that. Of course racism against minorities happens, and it's generally more impactful too. It's just hilarious to suggest that racism against whites is "frowned upon" when it's actually encouraged by the current mainstream culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:38 AM
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misandry and racism against white people is absolutely not frowned upon wtf are you talking about. it's been very cool and trendy for at least a decade
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:01 AM
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🎤 If I had a million dollars We wouldn't have to go to a whore! 🎶 If I had a million dollars We'd sugar date cuz it costs more!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:07 AM
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What we want believe it or not, varies When we say "women" or "men" in dating strategy, we're referring to the aggregate. Also: board game enthusiasts and someone who also plays FFXIV oh and he should enjoy travel These are all interests, which have little to do with personality and frame. Not a fan of machismo From the word choice it's clear that you're picking up on the cues of blustering false confidence and the obnoxious behaviors that correlate with that. Authentic confidence, strength and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:19 PM
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Very funny. There was nothing of substance to respond to, and you're one to talk about "condescension" when you label any input from men as "mansplaining". Hearing what men have to say IS traumatizing Oof, sucks to be you then. Cause we aren't shutting up just yet. Good luck on your crusade. But also remember to occasionally give thanks for the fact that you live in the most free and safe society that has ever existed in human history. Maybe that can inform you how skewed your definitions of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:19 PM
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I know, I know. It's a scary world outside of your Safe Spaces, gosh, hearing what men have to say can be so traumatizing can't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:04 PM
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What's that one book that describes this female dating strategy? It's pretty old, from the 80s or 90s I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:41 PM
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Well, yeah some would dismiss it because some RP sources insist that "marriage is a scam" (with some even giving standard LTRs the same treatment) with no benefit for men. However: TRP is a tool, or set of tools. It's a way of looking at the world, and not a prescriptive religion that says you must live your life in a certain way. You'll find this stated constantly in the readings from their sidebar. I believe a desire for deep and consistent love and pair bonding is innate to human psychology, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:31 PM
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That's a bit prejudiced but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:57 PM
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Not necessarily. Some RP men are ruthless womanizers, some are loving boyfriends and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:53 PM
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You're not just "technically" wrong though. If you saw the actual products (as in two dudes) of red pill and black pill ideology in front of you, you would instantly know which one is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:30 PM
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This is a different context. Dating coaches would have an incentive to be honest, whereas people most of the time have practically zero incentive to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:30 AM
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there’s that rare woman that would message and explain it. ...explain it incompletely if not outright incorrectly, to justify her decision to herself and dude. This is not sexism, literally every person does this. The person who is self-reflective and honest enough to perceive and explain a social failure like this accurately and in an actionable way is far more rare than the person who would take time to answer. Having said all that, it's still not terrible advice considering how completely in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:28 AM
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I feel like I'm watching a romantic comedy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:48 AM
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Gotcha. Hopefully you get most of it out... resent is spiritually poisonous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:01 PM
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stealin this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:55 PM
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That's your takeaway? Are you actually reading the thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:52 PM
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Lol its just a fact though, overcoming your gag reflex is way harder. Source: have given head to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:51 PM
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and we need to do that for 20+ minutes to make a girl cum. Need to tease more, don't just head straight for the finish line. In total yeah I spend a long ass time giving her oral but at least my mouth won't be so exhausted, and also a very slow start will save her from overstimulation so round 2 is just as good. We are expected to spend hours if not entire days getting women in the mood, with foreplay often lasting 30 minutes plus with most of the focus solely on her. I wonder where you perceive…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:49 PM
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Never ceases to blow my mind when I hear about people who genuinely think carrying a knife will make them safer. Blades kill people, but they don't disable them for shit. And they require far more skill to wield effectively than people like your friend realize, especially against a larger or stronger opponent. You pull a knife on an attacker and all you're doing is increasing the chances of your own death.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:37 PM
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endorsing mainstream feminism? unironically supporting blanket censorship of good faith discussions? WTF are you doing here, go back. actually im tagging u as troll unless you start making sense real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:57 AM
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This is the company that hired Aimee Challenor and thought the whole site wouldn't notice that they were literally putting a disgusting pedophilic psycho in an admin role. I wouldn't expect them to come to their senses any time soon. Although it's interesting to consider what will happen when they go public next year, my hopes aren't high.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:08 AM
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It doesn't make sense. Especially when you consider your own experiences. People can be young, under the influence, succumbing to peer pressure, etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:05 AM
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At the risk of sounding like every reddit armchair therapist ever: you shouldn't be ashamed of that experience. It's unfortunate that it didn't happen the way you would have liked, but it doesn't change anything fundamental about you. And, while this is another major platitude, I honestly wouldn't value the opinion of anyone who makes major personal judgements about someone based on their virginity status.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:58 AM
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based and Van Halen-pilled???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:48 AM
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Inspirational, honestly. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:45 AM
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Male, currently mid-twenties. Lost it at 16 in my first serious LTR. We dated for about a year before we went all the way, and both had never done anything more than kiss any previous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:43 AM
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Yes, all the gender critical subs have been banned. /detrans is still a thing though. Hell, fucking /4chan hasn't been banned yet (personally I think the admins probably regard it as a containment board lmao). I don't think reddit has the resources to flag every single thread that mentions trans people and evaluate whether it's supportive or critical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:34 AM
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Good response. OP's question is difficult to answer because a woman being gay doesn't automatically determine any particular political stances they may have, and politics has a much bigger bearing on one's attitudes to RP/FDS than pretty much anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:00 AM
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The most obnoxiously politically correct way to refer to it is (I believe) "the issue of genitalia preference". In other words it's where lesbians are dealing with advances (and later being subject to outrage and indignation) from people who present as and identify as female but have a penis instead of a vagina. It's a spicy topic because it exposes the selfish authoritarian attitudes of many trans rights activists. But I agree with Beltadowa that it's kind of off-topic and derailing this thread…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:57 AM
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Yeah. It's all for fun. Occasionally you'll see something that you find insightful, but if you're smart you'll still realize that that's just one person's take. No firm truths to be ascertained here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:39 AM
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PPD is just entertainment. Fascinated navel-gazing and sharing of anecdotes. I agree that anyone who comes here with an axe to grind and gets into the 50 comment long arguments to no avail is stupid, but there's lot of perfectly sane people here who just have an interest in examining inter-gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:32 PM
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terrible comment and now i do not look forward to your future posts shame ;'(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:08 AM
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very funny i look forward to your future posts thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:07 AM
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regardless of whether you're trying if you're doing the same thing. Trying to dilate and fucking or masturbating are not the same thing. Sure you can gain muscle in other ways like doing manual labour for 8 hours every day, but most people won't get ripped without trying even if their lifestyle is more active than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:51 PM
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Of course. Particularly when studying human society, we mostly think a study is only useful if it gives us an imperative to do something. Which immediately means that researchers and those who make use of their work are engaged in an inherently political project. Here's a fantastic read that's highly relevant: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/04/28/the-control-group-is-out-of-control/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:44 PM
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To deliberately and consciously change yourself doesn't mean putting up an act either. Yet again this implies human beings having a static personality and that a deviation from that would be fake and that it is an act that will eventually collapse back to the original. Now, I'm about to make some sweeping generalizations on a hunch so feel free to put me on blast if you think it's wrong. But I harbour a suspicion that the part I bolded there is something of a prevalent mindset, a perhaps subcons…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:33 PM
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I thought you literally just said stretching out muscular tissue takes concerted effort. u trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:21 PM
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As far as I've heard, it takes years of constant, daily effort That makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that you think women who aren't specifically trying to dilate, and certainly aren't putting in "years of constant daily effort" have to worry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:16 PM
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That's a solid connection. The same effect is at work in making activists for social issues insist that bigotry is somehow on the rise. Police violence and shootings, for example, were far higher in the late 80s and 90s than they are today. But now any incident is over-reported and the especially egregious cases are dominant in the news cycle and people's minds for months on end. The millions of police interactions where nothing goes wrong are ignored. So the only recourse for those of us who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:07 PM
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I have always been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that the subject of this subreddit was to examine relationships and gendered sociality in the real world. Meaning we have to take the aggregate of how people behave and not let terminally online whack jobs inform our perceptions of who "men" are and what they do and think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:54 PM
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No, definitely not the same thing. For one, men enjoy socializing with other men. They pretty much only need like one thing in common, and to not have diametrically opposite values or senses of humour. So there goes "men don't like people" right out the window. Even in an age where a substantial proportion of people under 30 have been socially damaged in some way by the internet, it's rare to find a man who doesn't have any friends that he enjoys spending time with. Also NAWALT. Just because shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:57 PM
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And that's an argument for... what exactly? doing nothing while you're alive? killing yourself? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:52 PM
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This is really contradictory. The whole "greater goals" thing is exactly what I've been alluding to this whole time. If you set out to become healthier and follow through on that goal, you reap the benefits, of which there are many. How is that "for nothing"? BTW fitness is a spectrum ofc and any demarcations on that scale are subjective. The goal isn't necessarily to "become fit" it's to improve your physical and mental health over time. Same with attraction. Many guys will never pull 9s or 8s …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:57 PM
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Yeah absolutely, that's a bogus double standard. TRP always has some stupid rationalization about it but to me it's just blind pride/egotism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:49 PM
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for women to invest in career beyond survival, they need to sacrifice their youthful years for education Do they really have to "sacrifice" it? I've been dating a woman for the past five years who has been in school the entire time, and we've both been very happy with our relationship pretty much the entire time. We spend plenty of time together, have great sex multiple times per week, and are fulfilled and very committed long term. So I think it's wrong to assume women are truly making themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:26 PM
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Of course. And if your genetic hand was a particularly bad deal, the sexual/romantic returns on your effort invested may be disappointing. However I adamantly maintain that making honest efforts to become a more interesting person via trying new things and forming hobbies, and a more physically attractive man via exercise and good hygiene are beneficial for your quality of life regardless of if it gets you laid. The alternative is wasting your life away wallowing in low self esteem and self pity…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:27 PM
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You really think it's too much to ask that women be allowed to enjoy having sex to the same extent men do? How is that "pretending we're the same"? It's just asking for fair treatment. No one is demanding you to marry a chick with a high N count, just asking you to keep your hang ups to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:58 AM
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Okay first I appreciate your patient and actually intelligible explanation. However I see a well defined line that separates "reaching a point where prostitutes are no longer viewed as inherently unworthy of respect" (which seems plausible within a few generations) and it's understood that it's just another profession providing a needed service to society, VS the point at which johns "consider sex workers marriage material" (which is a direct quote from /u/starple111). Because at the end of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:51 AM
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people/women are able to subconsciously detect when something "just isn't right" Of course. I just get the impression that an approach from a complete stranger activates that "sense" more often than not, in 99% of contexts. The only places I've ever succeeded in talking to a girl without a mutual friend's introduction or something, are bars/clubs, where it's a large point of being there in the first place plus everyone is drinking. Everywhere else, my impression has been that women are almost ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:14 AM
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If you're that set on being part of the problem, do you. Change for the better has happened in the past, but only because people actually believed in shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:08 AM
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Out of curiosity, got any practical tips when it comes to game? I'm tall, well groomed, and I do pull, but I was more in agreement with the guy above you on the rough percentages. Have you considered that potentially you and/or your circles exhibit social skills that are actually far above average rather than the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:02 AM
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Okay all that is very reasonable, but in that case you shouldn't have used the wording "most women on the street" because of the implication that we can actually cold approach on the street. That shit will never fly anymore. Also there's a bit of a (survivorship? preselection?) bias in your anecdotal evidence - those guys had the looks and the confidence to make you feel comfortable with them talking to you. It can go south really easily and young men growing up today are getting absolutely zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:57 AM
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That's really not the context Bill was using the phrase in. But go off I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:49 AM
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That really doesn't sound like getting your efforts "shoved back in your face" to me. Nothing guarantees success but that self improvement will improve your odds of finding love. Plus having hobbies, and in particular exercising, will have tons of collateral benefits in terms of physical and mental health, and general fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:47 AM
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Lol, morality. Imagine having standards. Just lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:43 AM
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Definitely a troll. he just keeps going and going, it's almost impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:34 AM
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Pretty funny how strongly you feel that this is actually compelling evidence. You're clearly not a zoologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:28 AM
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the only reason they act not submissive on a surface level is because of feminism shaming women for being submissive. There's definitely more to it than you're considering. For example if women want to be financially independent (which you may not like, but the opportunity to do so is categorically a right that every human deserves - I have more to say about this below), then they have a strong incentive to display masculine traits in their professional lives, and in the increasingly common cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:19 AM
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He can still be good looking, which confers a lot of benefits even without necessarily having enormous sexual success. Also not everyone is so autistic as to immediately reveal their weird hobbies when speaking to potential partners. And on the other other hand, if he really does have enough knowledge (not saying this is likely - I doubt he's reading through real research over just browsing incel forums and PPD), playing it as being "someone who studies sex" wouldn't be an unattractive trait if …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:00 AM
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Your broad strokes and obvious contempt make it pretty clear that discussing this with you is pointless. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:54 AM
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What the hell? who said anything about commitment? The point is (or should be) first and foremost making sex work safer. Giving lonely men access to sex so they can have less shitty lives is the next reason. Nobody anywhere is saying it would help with rates of long term companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:33 AM
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It's overused and annoying for sure but, in this case I find it pretty relevant. The incel mindset is strongly characterized by bitterness about non-reciprocation. Saying that an effort at courtship or even just a generic kind gesture is "wasted" because it didn't get the desired result reeks of cynicism. Hopefully the knitter in the anecdote can maintain some kind of abundance mentality and not get discouraged by rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:22 PM
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In many contexts it's important to deny that to myself and others. that's sociality for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:22 AM
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In the given example, women have to delude themselves about their chastity. In my personal example, I delude myself about my reliance on substances. In many common cases, people delude themselves about their career prospects, their adherence to a religious faith, etc. In general people have high standards that they can't consistently adhere to. The person who adheres to every moral standard they espouse with zero exceptions is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:26 PM
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Self delusion is critical. Almost every person alive does it to some extent, because actually having a totally congruent self-image is very, very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:53 PM
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Excellent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 11:58 PM
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Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:39 AM
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but forget that that means they aren't valuable. That's not always true. I feel like the amount of women who are promiscuous and confident enough to put a guy in the fuck zone is pretty slim. More often they're hoping to expand the relationship. It can go either way, it's not based on gender so much as the relative hotness of the participants and their views on casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:02 AM
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I like your comments (even if you do seem a bit sleazy). You should flair up if you're gonna stick around here. Something like "Every. Single. Time." might be good to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:58 AM
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It's only natural. These users are twisted for downplaying and shaming that emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:52 AM
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Good point. There's a distinct lack of positive messaging for low-confidence men in the world today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:07 AM
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you must be joking... like you know about porn right? you know they make sex toys for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:27 AM
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Sure it is. How are you gonna prove men aren't oppressed? Men have all the most uncomfortable and dangerous jobs, suffering the most workplace injuries and deaths. Men commit suicide at greater rates. Men earn fewer higher educations. Sounds like we need initiatives to get more men into college. Oh you can rationalize all this away, sure, it's "patriarchy" but you can't prove me wrong because the whole concept is subjective. Anyways none of that has anything to do with what I was saying. Your mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:37 PM
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calling TRP a theory is an insult to actual social [...] sciences There's just as much empirical evidence for TRP as there is for Marxism or feminism. Both are nothing more than endless postulation and speculation from impassioned individuals. Sometimes there is convincing rhetoric and argumentation to support the theories, sometimes not. Either way, neither TRP nor any "academic" social science is remotely scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:15 PM
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that's dodging the main point, which is that the requirement for attraction and arousal in order to experience pleasure is mutual. you thinking that sex is always pleasurable for men is just as wrong as thinking women have access to ubiquitous top tier sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 01:09 PM
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Does this mean we have to now have an exact proportionate system where everyone gets the exact same representation based on their numbers in society. Yes. Welcome to ethics. That's not fucking ethical, you literally just can't achieve that without completely disrespecting individual freedoms. And that besides, you want to force people into roles they don't even want just to satisfy arbitrary statistical figures. Unless you want to also come out and say that we need 50% of our garbage workers, oi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 05:14 PM
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what? that's a completely different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:42 AM
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social media IS new. political polarization is also peaking. there are data to back up the notion that alienation, depression, other anti-social behaviour are at an all time high in this generation, it's not necessarily some big melodrama.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 05:52 AM
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I can relate to this. If you believe this subreddit, it's an all but extinct arrangement. But I dont think it's really that uncommon or unattainable. People need to be willing to work for it though. Infatuation fades and attraction might vary over time. Believing that your relationship is worth it - contrary to the pessimistic messages from society that seem to imply one has to be totally happy all the time or else the relationship isn't worthwhile - strikes me as an important attribute and it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 01:39 AM
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great argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 01:30 AM
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There is no constitutional right to murder a baby. Correct, which is why it is illegal - in every jurisdiction on earth - to murder babies. I guess you meant to write "fetus" instead of "baby" but in that case you would be wrong. Fetuses don't have rights, any more than brain tumors or tape worms. You want to bullshit about how abortion is meaningless, then remove the double homicide charges that go with killing pregnant women. Sure? Is this supposed to cause me to gasp and clutch my pearls? I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:52 PM
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Well this is pretty poorly argued. Elected governments can make rules that affect any and all aspects of life, and can just as easily make decisions that exclusively affect women. Case in point, legislature attempting to prohibit access to abortion, made by governments composed mostly of men (legislature which infringes on the constitutional rights of women, no less). I'm with you on "women shouldn't be handed unearned representation in government and corporate leadership" but arguing against en…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:51 PM
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If it's true that people are not and cannot be made equal, then I am correct to say that comparing oneself to others is just deepening the pain of existence. For me this isn't political, it's spiritual. And not propoganda but practical advice. You can try to change the world but it's much more fruitful to try to change yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:13 AM
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The world isn't equal and it never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 05:12 AM
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Purple poly bros 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:29 PM
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If you think 1 in 20 men can establish a lasting relationship with a quality woman - a figure which I wouldnt necessarily disagree with - then why claim "love never existed"? Of course love exists, that much is indisputable. What is up for debate is if it benefits men, or women, or if it's worth chasing, etc. Imo the feeling is so powerful and life-affirming that it's worth taking big risks to seek out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:28 PM
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Just because a woman is honest doesn't mean she routinely empathizes with men. It's very difficult to even gain the insight necessary to be able to do so. The main things I've learned from women have little applicability to my life as a man, they just inform me of how different it is to be a woman. For example, the fear they feel around strange men who haven't demonstrated trustworthiness and decency. That's surely justified, and yet entirely unrelatable to me. I think a lot of men have no clue …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:58 AM
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appreciate it. I think most ideologies have extremists that push the envelope for the sake of it, and whether or not it's intentional they can strengthen the orthodoxy by either furthering core tenets or exposing flaws - the only issue is that in the internet age these extremist positions will always be jumped upon and exposed by opponents, enabling strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:41 AM
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I'm not even sure what the fuck this has to do with what I wrote. I guess you require a very simple explanation. How are women evil to the men that don't get laid when they don't even give a fuck about these men even existing? We'll have to backtrack. This thread of discussion begins with BrownEyedGringa saying chads are "vile" (not "evil", there is a difference) for the way they "treat women as objects of pleasure not people with feelings". erased_existance disputes that, saying that we shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:36 PM
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That sounds rehearsed. I think most RP men are young, depressed, angry, sexually frustrated, The most enthusiastic manosphere authors are, in fact, middle age, not depressed whatsoever (other mental health issues like narcissism notwithstanding), sexually successful, and while they may be politically opposed to progressive social order, acknowledge that it provides unprecedented sexual opportunity for men. And the simple truth is that they wouldn't have an audience if there were a positive ident…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:37 PM
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This shouldn't be some dismal realization. It's life. You're not an NBA player, you're not a billionaire investor, you're not the president, and you never will be. Relentlessly comparing yourself to others is a guaranteed path to sadness. And also generates an ever-more unattractive aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:30 PM
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Within an LTR lust can rise and fall precipitously. There are a lot of factors at play. If anything it can be hard to maintain your partner's attractive perception of you after the limerant stage fades and also after you move in together, as you'll be less able to curate what your partner sees of you. That's why anyone who's been successfully married for decades will tell you that "it's hard work". They may soften it by saying it's hard "at times" but what they mean is that there will be times w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:26 PM
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Why would I waste my time debating ... when none of that matches any real reality I've seen Your reality is different than the one men experience. Okay, I'll admit the fake statistics never fail to portray the situation as more extreme than it probably is, but the general sentiment definitely holds up in my experience. Hand-waving male experiences by saying the purveyors of RP ideology are "just" misogynists, incels, and so on, is not only shit-tier debating it's also the exact kind of solipsist…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:18 PM
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...wait that's a rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:09 PM
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based on your username I guess that's true. have you tried: having value to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:09 PM
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I agree I've seen lots of top tier men (and women) who are way nicer than they need to be. But that doesn't change how they behave in terms of the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:08 PM
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Well, yes. What else do you suppose "treats women like objects" means? It means he uses them for pleasure and ignores them at his leisure. Women do exactly that to men (mitigated by how polite they were raised, and exaggerated by how attractive they are). Except instead of physical pleasure, it's emotional and practical benefits they reap. In a free society neither of these behaviours are really wrong. We condemn Chad more because women are wonderful. But since Chad can't be forced to commit and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:06 PM
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That's true but only women who are top tier in both attractiveness and intelligence can afford to reject those types of guys. I argue that achieving a healthy sense of self-worth and spiritual wellbeing are better things to work on as a man than looksmaxxing and this is a part of the reason why. An average guy who acts like an alpha may not receive tons of female attention but when he does catch a women's eye he has a very good chance of developing a fulfilling LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:00 PM
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Well for me the problem with that idea is that organized religion is just obviously made up. A good moral philosophy and clean living habits should be possible to cultivate without fanciful mythology and bizarre rituals. But working alone, it's hard to have complete confidence that you're doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:25 PM
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Do you have any issues re: the relationship between self expression, commercialism, and oppresive puritan woke culture? For me it's one of the biggest drains on my quality of life even though it doesn't affect me directly very often. It sometimes feels like I'm watching the death of my parents' culture. A standard of living is a great thing to have but spiritually it's a desert out here. My relationships are the only thing of value I have in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:13 PM
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Of course it is. Likewise it's the best place for women by an enormous margin. That doesn't preclude making criticism about the state of society or the direction it's headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:10 PM
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it's definitely cock size. cock size trumps all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 01:34 PM
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Radfems (and communists) get to publish their views in academic journals. That's not equivalent to incels raving online imo, no matter if you think regular people disagree with both groups. Normal conservatives aren't trying to politically legitimize white nationalism and radical men's rights ideas to even half the extent that regular liberals are trying to legitimize extreme ideas from radical feminism, Marxism, and racial identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:23 PM
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And given that having a child doesn't have any benefits, You either see it like this, or you see having a child as a benefit. For a lot of people it's what gives their adult lives meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:45 AM
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You're either a troll or mentally challenged lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 12:40 AM
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Then you're a hypocrite and probably also really low IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 11:16 PM
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Nice you got a source for that? It's not generally known that humans have a limited supply of hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:08 AM
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With every notch she's making her less valuable as a LTR partner Lol why
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:17 AM
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compacity not the word you're looking for, it's "capacity" related, but not grammatically correct in this context, is "complacency"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 05:21 AM
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That's a good point and it raises the question of why this perception exists that sex within a relationship is less likely to be as "fun and exciting" as casual sex. Intuitively it feels like it should be the opposite as first encounters with a new partner should normally be more intimidating, less comfortable, less tailored to individual tastes, less kinky, etc? My suspicion is that people of both sexes are afraid of relationships, afraid of the emotional vulnerability it comes with and prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:53 AM
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I think he is talking about like average-good looking women (HB8s in RP lingo?) whereas you are talking about the 10s who could easily have any man just based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 09:11 PM
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Okay fair, I assigned more importance to it than he implied. But regardless, to assign any value to simply passing on your genes is hilariously pathetic in my mind. It's not a legacy at all, when it's completely anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:28 AM
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Absolutely. It's weird because rarely does this subject get overtly discussed, so it's hard to think of it as a cultural difference. Maybe some religions assign some value to it, but I haven't seen that consistently. innately valuable action that needs no justification Whereas I consider it an extremely selfish and prideful act that actually carries a moral burden of sorts, which the parent can only relieve themselves of by raising a morally upright kid who brings a positive influence to their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:56 PM
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If I was wrong you wouldn’t be so threatened by it. Wow, utterly laughable once again. "threatened"?? Dont flatter yourself. Some people feel the need to call out obvious bullshit when they see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:51 PM
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He got a chance to pass on his genes so he is not a reproductive failure LMFAO it's so obscene to actually think of that as a fulfilling experience. Imagine being a sentient person and choosing to believe "yepp, I get to feel fulfilled now knowing my genes have been passed on in spite of never knowing or seeing the offspring, let alone raising them". If that's your life's accomplishment you must be pretty worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:49 PM
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It's inevitable that feminism in the popular culture/public discourse will be represented by journalists, social media trends/memes and influencers, and lightly educated followers of the ideology, rather than your lofty definition of real feminists with academic training in gender studies. And moreover, when I've seen actual, academic feminists defend themselves in debates, they fully assume the part of the crybullying buffoons anti-feminist media makes them out to be. It comes right down to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:40 PM
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This "actual definition" stuff is textbook motte and bailey arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:28 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 06:50 AM
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It's almost a spiritual problem people have these days... These men who are embracing the greater RP teachings being spread through social media/pop culture today may never understand the fact that it's working toward someone else's happiness, being generous and compassionate, that enriches your own life. It should probably be noted that a lot of the popular lefty media tends to encourage the behaviour that RP criticises in women. We have a revolutionary cultural atmosphere right now, but with l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:27 AM
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Believe it or not there are some people out there who aren't completely status-obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:25 AM
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As if short men don't resent being excluded for their height. Yeah right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:30 AM
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hahahahhaha fuck. guys resent this so much but there's obviously no downside for you, as you can easily ignore 90% of the population and still get laid. it's just not fair 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 08:14 PM
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Enjoying sex makes one a sociopath... got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:58 AM
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Well poppy, when you're right you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:08 AM
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i guess i'm totally indoctrinated by the progressive left??? even though i fucking hate social justice at large? but i couldn't give less of a fuck if someone's done porn, it has literally no bearing on my assessment of them as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 01:36 AM
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Okay... why would I care what extreme nonsense they say online? TRP readers might make up .1% of the population, and of course the vast majority are lurkers. Those who do post are, like everyone else on ideological forums online, playing characters of themselves. Just like the left wing "revolutionaries" who don't lift and are super meek IRL, I pay no mind to people pretending to be some movie star and spouting pure ideology. I care about what real people say and do. That's what this sub is abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:55 AM
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Many males don’t even refer to women as women, they are usually called whores or bitches or other derogatory words. . Many males lmfao what the fuck? textbook example of weasel words - no one reading this has any clue who these "many males" you're referring to are, and while i've met some misogynistic fuckers I've never seen this behaviour you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:46 AM
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Lmfao there's nothing "inherent" about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:55 AM
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I would say the traditional front page subs are worse than Facebook. Seriously /r/pics is so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 05:48 AM
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That's an incredibly niche interest. And there is a political aspect to participation in that kind of community as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:02 AM
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It's called a dating app to maintain a semblance of decency. It definitely is more of a meet-to-fuck app for most of the people I know who use it, and I have to agree that if casual sex is completely off the table for you there must be a better platform than tinder to meet guys on. Like OKCupid for one example. I'm sure it's impossible to completely avoid thick-skulled men seeking hookups, but on Tinder there's nothing you can put in your bio to prevent that since guys infrequently even read bio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:25 AM
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Bruh... proofread your shit. It's not hard. This post is unintelligible at points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:37 AM
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haha srry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:29 AM
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Did Aristotle really misspell whether or did u just make that quote up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:52 PM
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Regardless, I'm quite sure you dated women who you found attractive in some way, and hardly noticed or considered the ones who were unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:26 PM
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And I'm sure you made a conscious effort as a young adult to romance and fuck ugly or fat femcels, being the noble, not-at-all-hypocritical gentleman that you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:50 PM
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That's not really what I was referring to. More so the portrayal of social workers (an entire occupation - many thousands of individuals) as all being manipulative criminals who enter the industry so that they can get in on this alleged "racquet" and make tons of money. I'm pretty sure it's the opposite for most individuals. They enter the industry with altruistic intent knowing their earning prospects are terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:20 PM
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Can confirm sex is overrated. However, companionship is not. It is vital to long term wellbeing and life satisfaction. Having said that, it doesn't mean anyone is "entitled" to it. But nobody should be surprised when we face societal problems due to the radicalization or demoralization of individuals who are continually deprived of love and not shown any sympathy but instead are mocked and despised for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:14 PM
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Lol I'm reminded of other times when women posting here have unironically asked "why should women be honest about their desires? There's no benefit to us" Which is, I guess fair. It's certainly hard to argue with. But then... "Why should men have allowed women the right to vote?" "Why should the rich have to pay taxes?" "Why should governments try to root out corruption?" "Why should our industry submit to environmental and health regulations?" Why face reality when you can pretend to be a peren…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:05 PM
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It's hard to believe claims without evidence but I wish you luck in bringing about justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:12 PM
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You don't think your brush might be just a teensy bit broad here???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 08:49 PM
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I don't give a fuck what other people just as ignorant as you might think. How gay is a guy who sucks dick and eats pussy? About 50% gay. Aka bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:01 AM
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men without nagging wives work more hours In my experience in manual labour jobs it's the opposite. Maybe professionals can get more done with a fulfilling home life. But in landscaping guys were often happy to work more hours, in order to stay away from their home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:59 AM
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you "lol @" it. Wow i am so convinced by your viewpoint, excellent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:55 AM
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Probably cause they jerk jill off all day long about how incredibly amazing women are compared to men, so when someone starts to criticize their gender it's immediately personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:53 AM
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my issue is that they fully plagiarized another journalist's work. no one should be giving traffic to worthless thieves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:13 AM
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Why did you link fucking gawker's thievery instead of the actual article lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:27 AM
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Really? I think cynicism can be very appealing as long as you don't portray yourself as a pitiable figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:18 AM
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Actually true. And even getting pity sex probably wouldn't improve incels' quality of life. The real problem is their own shortcomings which they likely obsess over. It's not about getting sex, it's about possessing self esteem in a highly superficial world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:48 PM
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U insulted me first Lmfao Oh right I forget ur 40 year virgin listen go kill urself. You have a very short memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:08 PM
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You're probably the type of fool to believe that gayness is an infection that spreads or something, but the rate of homosexuality doesn't trend upward...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:04 PM
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Yes but in order to demand those things you need to be equally valuable yourself, and many men just don't have the drive to be all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:09 PM
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kk. I was just posting some Opinions sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 05:26 AM
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In monogamous relationships either gender can encounter the problem of being taken for granted, and they're well within their rights to remind their partner of their appeal to other potential partners. Communicating this directly is way more unpleasant for both parties so flirting and drawing attention is the more elegant and effective method. And seriously, if we had a case where a woman felt she was being routinely taken for granted in a relationship and was flirting around in the hope of gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:45 AM
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It's literally psychological abuse by creating insecurity and artificial jealousy. Lol really? It's "abuse" to interact freely with other women and be your own person in spite of another's efforts to restrain your sexuality? I'm quite sure you wouldnt bother with this moralism if we were discussing such an option for women in a relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:26 AM
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To me the name is more a reference to "waking up from a false reality". It's true that lots of terps are equally smug and self satisfied as bloops, and will act as if they have all the answers but I think when pressed most would admit that their data is severely lacking and their worldview is built almost entirely on personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:05 AM
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Legal, economic, and political equality are all rightly deserved. Social equality will never be achieved in a free society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:46 AM
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It seems like everybody really, really, wants a cookie for this. It's not being mentioned to brag, it's literally the point of the sub/this thread to talk about shit like this, share experiences and try to identify trends
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 09:38 PM
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However none of this is really applicable to fitness as a mate in contemporary society. It's all just holdovers from a more primitive evolutionary paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 08:13 PM
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Excellent rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 01:21 AM
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You're totally right. Any man who doesn't have a complete grasp of female sexuality is obviously an idiot and/or virgin. Very insightful comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:21 AM
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Speak for yourself, nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:49 AM
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Hahaha I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:47 AM
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I did misunderstand, because you brought up asexuals and said "non outliers" can experience the same thing as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 06:25 AM
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Idk man I dont see the point, again unless you are an asexual person. Not to say i have anything against a lengthy romance prior to sex, that's fine whatever. But if it goes on indefinitely without sex someone (read:the guy) is going to lose interest and probably end up resenting the effort/emotional investment they put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 03:29 AM
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Barring the asexual example, a romance that doesnt end in sex means someone is gonna be disappointed. Sure it can happen, but it won't be a mutually beneficial arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:45 PM
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If this scenario were at all plausible it would have happened due to porn already.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:53 PM
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Anyone have a source for any of these competing claims? Like an academic historical one not a feminist or manosphere blog????
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:20 PM
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I know this wasn't the point you were trying to make but the idea that social media and the usage thereof can in any way constitute "societal advancement" is truly a joke. We've seen by now that it encourages degeneracy, sensationalism, exhibitionism and so on and the gains are negligible. It's a purely commercial technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:57 AM
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So you think social media is actually the cause of this trend. I wanted to attribute it to shifting moral perceptions but that's probably just a convenient coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:58 AM
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show off what they have While I agree, I think "experiences" like going to hyped concerts for trendy artists, and taking vacations to exotic places have become the main status symbols for this generation. A lot of people, maybe even a majority, have come to view flouting luxury possessions as tacky and shallow (and in some circles even morally reprehensible due to environmental concerns). Meanwhile showing off in the form of publicizing one's "worldly" experiences gets a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:51 AM
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Yeah what a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:30 AM
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That's really depressing are they just friends who decided it made economic sense? totally insane
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:33 AM
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You're asking a question that depends upon a pretty dicey premise with almost nothing to back it up. There might be plenty here who share your perception but we all have equally little actual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:31 AM
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want to point out that serial monogamy and cheating are both different and exclusive from polyamory. but I still agree, an attractive couple that wants to branch out will keep quiet about it and probably won't get into a "community" or use all this jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:28 AM
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I like this take a lot. But what also needs to be noted, we're all going to draw the line between ugly/average and average/hot in different places. Not drastically different, but different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:24 AM
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Some are normal looking couples but the guy is basically a married homosexual. They do poly so he can get laid by guys. This is basically me but I just want to ask... have you heard of bisexuality??? it's not a fucking myth lmfao. who would get married to someone who doesn't fall within their gender preferences? Some other couples are quite attractive, (still usually quite young), but one thing about these kind of stories is that only the dregs are usually willing to out themselves like that. Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:18 AM
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Damn is this ever true. Women really do want to fuck, and lots. Take away the social backlash from slut shaming and it's a whole new paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:16 AM
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I'm in an open relationship and have never posted anything to a forum. I don't consider myself to be part of any "community" and I think there's a lot more people like myself than those who are "in" those communities. And even though I am definitely not about to post proof, my girlfriend is pretty hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:12 AM
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Hey nice work. This just sounds like not many people here have met very many poly folk and assume they’re unattractive because polyamory, the behavior is unattractive. This is what I see too. People think it's "cheating", or just otherwise can't understand the motivations so the obvious narrative to spin is one of "desperation".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:09 AM
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and none of them are fat ayo what. that bitch is fat as fuck. and the guys are all scrawny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 03:03 AM
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Make sure their forks are clean then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 02:57 AM
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In a poly relationship here, I agree completely that a healthy relationship would never need to involve other options, especially not out of boredom. But on the other hand, what practical benefits does being exclusive provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 02:55 AM
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Agree. RP men on here are often underestimating the effort that goes into meeting just basic standards of attractiveness for women; it's true that 5s will still have lots of suitors but there would be a lot more 3s out there if it weren't for cosmetics. So yeah, people who neglect that stuff will appear way uglier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 02:50 AM
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It's interesting that you've assumed all poly relationships involve multiple guys and one girl. In my experience the opposite is more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 02:45 AM
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Does it ever get boring pointing this out? however you're quite right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:51 AM
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Well said I always try to make this point, sexually active people may people desire and fantasize about landing like a really high value partner but eventually the majority will settle for someone more in their league. For guys extra charisma or sexual skill/energy can often compensate somewhat for looks, so those complaining that chad is hoarding all the single girls really ought to try refining their game first...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 11:35 AM
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why do they bitch and moan about women getting educations What fucking planet are you living on, seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:18 PM
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couldn't agree more. Women who are decisively not into it and men who are terrified of being accused of foul play seem to be really overrepresented in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:15 PM
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Just another voice chiming in, it's not something I have ever innately wanted to do myself contrary to what the bloops here are claiming, and it is something 80% (N=10) of my partners have been turned on by.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:11 PM
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If you're satisfied that's great. But sex is pretty fantastic. Knowing what I do about how great it can be I would definitely feel like I was missing out if I had an extended dry spell. On top of that my perception is that it's even better for women, if they manage to get a reliable lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 03:02 AM
1

No sex either Do you masturbate a lot? or just get by with low sexual stimulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:42 PM
1

So never experiencing love is "winning", not sure I completely agree. being cautious is all good and well but at some point in a relationship with good chemistry you have to start trusting your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 08:40 PM
1

not going to get the same quality of attention from high quality guys generally. Correct, so what you just explained is that the pressure to look good is entirely intrinsic. No one is telling them directly that their looks are inadequate, but at the same time everyone knows that by putting in more effort and becoming hotter, they can pull more attractive men. This is why "depictions of attractive women as oppression" is utter bullshit. That average women are inadequate is an implication drawn by…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:58 AM
19

But whereas incels have no widespread support, feminists have done an excellent job of infiltrating mainstream media and influencing what people think of as normal or fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:53 AM
5

this isn't an incel pitypost hmm you're right tho, it's meant to be a pitypost for women, who can't find good lovers or negotiate better sex for themselves. yes i feel so awful for them. and also for the apparently inept men who could be getting a lot more out of their sexual relationships if they invested a little more in it. but "worthless men" i mean jeez, it sounds like you want to genocide them or something lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 07:27 AM
0

wow that's a somewhat valid argument imo lol but also, insisting that women won't find most men attractive seems contrary to the reality that eventually most people settle, even if temporarily, and get regular sex that way. unattractive women are settling for some of the guys who wouldn't get noticed by hotter girls. i obviously can't speak for the quality of those girls sex lives im sure it varies. and it would also seem there has to be incels of both genders who still have standards of attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 07:16 AM
0

You seem to be ignoring the biological urge to have children. Having a kid gives people (not just women) a sense of purpose in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 07:42 PM
1

You have so much charisma. You should run for office.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 03:17 AM
1

Isn't declaring whataboutism itself a form of whataboutism. Anyways I think we know that nobody actually gives a shit about studies in terms of forming opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 02:50 AM
2

Yes. Other user is obsessed with his narrative that women desperately want the strangest dick they can find, and the word "comfort" apparently has no place in said narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 10:05 PM
0

Your (very limited) definition of comfort seems to require hot cocoa and a blanket.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 10:04 PM
4

it's a "bad study" because you don't particularly like the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:49 PM
4

lol. Studies get paraded in leftist media all the time showing this or that result, often with N<100 or even <10...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:48 PM
1

Nice, looks like you got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:12 AM
1

I really dislike the look/feel of "chomp" for some reason but it is roughly equally correct and on further consideration I don't really like the idiom in either form. It's antiquated and you could just say "...not a lot of women eager..." or something else simpler.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:38 PM
1

this is hilarious bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:31 PM
2

At the very least, we should all be able to agree that people deserve to have agreements they have made be upheld if they're fulfilling their part in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 11:17 PM
4

So why are wages so low?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 08:33 PM
14

your article discusses at length "middle income" families which doesn't seem representative... and unemployment being low isn't a rebuttal at all, people can have jobs that are shit and pay little. the inability of low skill workers to negotiate a better wage is certainly linked to a saturated labour market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:15 PM
11

Working is literally wealth generation, so if more people are working, more wealth is going to be generated Sure, this would make sense, except we know for a fact that earnings relative to inflation have stagnated for the majority. Thanks, capitalism. It seems pretty stupid to ignore the huge increase in the amount of people seeking jobs as a factor in this trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:54 PM
2

Well, your counterargument is irrelevant because what's being discussed is just whether or not TRP will allow open discussion and suggestion of ideas without simply banning anyone with contrary opinions. The so called "free market of ideas". All I was trying to prove with my anecdote is that they don't operate like that whatsoever. They ban dissidents very quickly. But since I'm more than willing to get into the debate once again, I'll state my case more clearly here. The hypothetical situation …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:49 PM
3

I got banned from TRP for suggesting that a pleasant upbringing for a child in a two-parent home is a greater good than the dad finding out the kid isn't his. They're pathetic, insecure cultists just like their leftist counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:48 PM
2

You can't legitimately win an election without choosing words wisely, unless your opponents are real morons who are bad in speech. Ah, 2016... it was quite a shitshow wasn't it. Looking forward to the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:36 PM
2

You're just plainly misusing the word "objective". I don't really disagree with you. Something can easily be widely agreed upon and still have no basis in objectivity, this is one of those cases. Also, there can be smaller degrees of variance between people as opposed to it being "willy nilly inconsistent". That's a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 01:47 PM
2

That's exactly what objectivity means. It seems like you're using it to mean some standard of what "reasonable" people think. I agree that boundaries are, for the most part, easy to spot and know for reasonable people. but they do vary slightly based on context and there is absolutely nothing objective about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:41 PM
2

female creatures you're a fucking parody of yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:13 PM
0

and would be similarly severe for a woman who touched a guy’s junk it said man were inclined to report it. hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 03:48 AM
2

uh, no i don't think poppy knows that at all. their own experience = reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:26 PM
1

I agree it's rather ironic, and also hard to justify really. As long as an individual can prove they are clean there is really no reason N-count should be a relevant factor. Which supports OP's argument that they must be using it mainly as a proxy for other stuff, but i doubt it's a reliable measure of much. I've met promiscuous people of many personality types, etc. On the other hand, the "virgin slut" described by OP sounds likely to have an obnoxious personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:21 AM
2

The ownership of the vanity industry is irrelevant because everyone voluntarily participates in it. The consumers as well as the models all consent to their role in its continued existence. By wording this entire situation as "Men objectify women" you attempt to make women into victims, in spite of their completely voluntary participation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 10:21 PM
1

That's more plausible. I can't really recall anyone bringing up high school in conversation in the past several days though. Let alone have enough data points to notice a trend. Is it really that significant...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 04:34 AM
0

I don't want to dispute in any way the idea that lots of men don't mature. It's definitely true. But for women, not maturing seems to be the default. My circles are relatively low class fwiw but the idea that "it defines [men] in a way I don’t think it defines women." is laughable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:46 PM
3

Someone's reading comp is a bit off. Just can't figure out if it's yours or mine. What is the logical next step, exactly...? A constitutional requirement that half of congress be women? some sad excuse for democracy that would be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 02:01 AM
3

To me, the following: Weird, huh? Considering they make up more than 50% of the population. strongly implies that the balance needs to be 50% in order for "power" to be fairly distributed. Since the form of government is representative democracy, that's clearly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 11:21 PM
2

Muh women presidents. And stuff like that. Bearing in mind that feminist doctrine typically denies the existence of biologically ingrained gender differences, they will probably not be willing to declare victory until exactly 50% of big important people in the world are women, no statistical wage gap, etc. That most of the academic feminist leadership are also proud marxists is purely a convenient coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 11:13 PM
5

Prisoners' dilemmas aside, this idea glosses over the very real differences between the sides in the culture wars. Give you an example, while everyone can agree that rape is abhorrent, feminists and conservatives will differ wildly on what that word even means, before actually getting to the arguments about whether it's an "epidemic" and what needs to be done. Also salient is the fact that feminism (not uniquely) is far more committed to its own continued relevancy and importance than to finding…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:36 PM
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As much as I don't necessarily agree with the OP, holding up figures like these as evidence of discrimination is nonsense. It assumes that women are endeavouring to obtain those high ranking positions at exactly the same rates as men, and i've never seen any evidence that that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:22 PM
1

i simply love this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:56 AM
1

it pisses me off that people lie to researchers for what amounts to no reason at all, but it is to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 04:31 AM
1

are you trying to be funny or just dumb...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 05:43 AM
5

except a ton of the "factual statistics" drawn from sociology and especially gender studies are bogus. if you believe something that was found by a single study you have a poor notion of how "facts" are derived in science. something that has been reproduced ~0 times is not yet much more than a theory. on top of this ideology influences and often provides the motivation for conducting the research in the first place (since the progressive culture of the academic communities for these subjects buz…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 07:17 AM
3

you kinda skipped the part where you have to physically restrain the meth head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:30 PM
1

hey why are you being all childish
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:28 PM
3

what an excellent way to get stabbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:17 PM
1

man what an awful cringey site. What i hate most of all about feminist media is the incessant snarky authoritative tone. Your website might as well be hosted on blogspot for all the actual journalistic clout it has, sit down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:11 AM
2

damn, this is awesome! you should have like a black pill flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:48 AM
0

You are totally right. And the downvotes just keep coming, even onto these purely meta comments that aren't expressing any opinions except for the obvious fact that this subreddit has utterly no regard for reddiquette. In fact, this is the only subreddit on the entire site I have a negative comment karma total for. Which makes the site automatically restrict your posting to the subreddit, compounding the echo chamber effect.
/r/MensRights15/08/17 02:44 AM
1

Going Their Own Way doesn't mean refusing to settle though. It means avoiding romantic and sexual engagements altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:43 PM
1

Not at all. The question is comparing the two. Just because values are small doesn't mean they can't be compared. Also "important" in this context may also mean "important to the debate at hand" .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:38 PM
1

That's a good counterpoint, but you really shouldn't have conceded it to begin with - the idea that it's "the men" doing all the ill to men is just stupid. Women have a vote that is worth just as much. The justice system serves all of society and it's totally ridiculous to absolve women of their responsibility for what that system does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:31 PM
1

If you're a troll, I have to say you're performing well. If you're not, do yourself, your movement, your entire gender a favour and let people more mature and self aware than yourself handle the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:25 PM
4

i'm a guy who studies history and I just really want you to take /u/storffish's comment seriously. Your assessment of how women have been sheltered from life "for millenia" is just patently false. the lifestyle you refer to is pretty much unique to people living in a short span of decades, in the right country, and even then only above a certain socioeconomic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:17 PM
1

When societal expectations were sex negative and the advice given to teenage girls was to wait until marriage, that was (according to bp) an unfair patriarchical arrangement too. Now, almost entirely at the behest of feminists, attitudes are much more pro sex and slut-shaming is forbidden. And you're telling me this is an example of society being "by men for men". I'm not RP but you need to get your head out of the fucking sand. I don't contest that we still do live in a "patriarchy" as far as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:02 PM
3

Well I respect your patience, this is definitely not the first time i've seen you get flamed by some idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:13 PM
4

No. If I had to guess i'd say "it varies". Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:40 PM
5

If you were a woman you'd never have the balls to attempt what you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:40 PM
1

We sure do get all types on this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:33 PM
3

What in the absolute fuck. Please delete this completely incoherent nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:31 PM
1

What the fuck? In print there's Wall Street Journal, New York Post, American Spectator, online there's Breitbart, Rebel media... I'm sure i'd know of many more if I was a bona fide conservative. There's only a small handful of major news networks so it isn't surprising that only one particularly noteworthy one exists in that category. It should also be noted that many networks/publications have decidedly centrist politics, which is its own slant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:27 PM
2

Who is "the media"? This isn't 1990. Left wing media publishes content that appeals to (read: confirms the views of) left wingers. Just about every media organization has a well-known if not outright stated slant these days, and many of them are right wing as well. So I really don't know what you're on about with this media conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 01:34 AM
2

Sure, the conception that men and women are completely the same is bullshit. But I don't think very many people buy into it, certainly not to the extent that resentment over this broken promise is the root of all hostility towards women. Regardless, there's a big difference between saying "men and women have different tendencies" and saying "women cannot be logical, rational, loyal, or trustworthy". And then, possibly worse, insisting that there are no exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:51 PM
1

Ah okay so the "unrealistic expectation" is that women can be worth anything more than just sex. I'm not really prepared to argue with someone in as deep as you but i'd like to ask a question: how does it feel to be a bona fide misogynist? like do you still reject that label at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:29 PM
1

in internet parlance a concern troll is someone trying to "infiltrate" a community and sow dissent by posing as a bona fide member when in reality they oppose the group's views. Still having a hard time connecting that to this subject. You think the researchers themselves are misrepresenting their intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:52 PM
1

Feminism sets high expectations for women? I've been all around the gender issues battlegrounds of the internet but this is not a position i've encountered commonly. It'd be nice if you expanded on the mechanisms by which that happens. As I see it, most feminist orgs/publications seem to be pushing for lower expectations for what women offer men (body positivity, equal division of housework) and higher expectations for what women achieve/seek for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:27 PM
1

I'm curious about your characterization of them as "concern trolls" ? What does that mean in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:22 PM
7

Yes, that is the main appeal. They are all circlejerks following in the footsteps of SRS. And you can place a lot of other non-political subreddits in the same category wherein they circlejerk about how awful and stupid some subset of people are in order to draw favorable comparisons to themselves and eventually become incredibly pretentious and insular communities themselves. Examples include /r/lewronggeneration /r/iamverysmart and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:18 PM
0

and this is all verifiable but you won't verify any of it, will you?
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 07:27 PM
-10

Jesus fuck could you be any more melodramatic? Go back to /r/theredpill or /r/incels ya fink
/r/MensRights18/07/17 04:20 PM
2

If a study shows that legalization without any of these active measures "increases trafficking" then it isn't really saying anything at all. Regulation should be completely obvious, it should be implemented in every jurisdiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 01:19 PM
2

lmao, a hyperbole isn't meant to stand as an actual argument, you need to back it up at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 01:16 PM
1

Most governments are now beginning to recognise your sarcastic (?) argument as true, and taking steps to put the absurd nutritional imbalances and risks of fast food in a more visible position. My jurisdiction recently began forcing chain restaurants to prominently label the calories of menu items, and hopefully more steps will follow like banning novelties and other marketing strategies targeting children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 01:11 PM
1

global learn to read
/r/MensRights27/05/17 05:51 PM
2

You don't need to be worried, you just need to give practical advice.
/r/MensRights08/04/17 09:54 AM
1

I agree that no rational person would ever believe this. But sadly I cannot commiserate about never having encountered this belief before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:02 PM
2

also another exhibit for those who still delude themselves that women don't enjoy or want to seek out sex.
/r/seduction27/03/17 06:29 PM
2

Sometimes simple questions have complex answers. Especially when the asker seems to be lacking constructional knowledge, such as the purpose and rules of the subreddit.
/r/seduction27/03/17 06:25 PM
1

exactly, if you're interested in going through a useless, indefinite "anger phase" well, you probably know where you're supposed to be and it isn't here.
/r/seduction27/03/17 06:22 PM
19

/r/titlegore
/r/MensRights05/02/17 04:27 PM
1

k
/r/MensRights23/01/17 12:52 AM
1

no... just no... the FAQ is actually a thorough, quality resource with great references, i use it often. but nowhere in it will i find evidence for enabling the use of the term "feminazi". it is no more justified than if someone were to label us "redpillers" or "alt right" for discussing on this subreddit. feminism has gone too far, and it is something that needs to be worked against. but if you both a) genuinely desire something resembling gender equality and b) have an ounce of self respect, y…
/r/MensRights23/01/17 12:05 AM
1

...do you know what "moot hypothetical" actually means?
/r/MensRights22/01/17 06:42 PM
1

an average woman usually has a pretty good idea of at least one man in her social circle who would be more than willing to let her spend the night indefinitely. So? How is that relevant? It's a completely moot hypothetical. It's not something anyone should have to do. A quick recap of top of the thread I replied to: "Men are disproportionately victims of homelessness!" "Yeah, and there's already so many womens shelters, women could just sleep with their male friends if they needed shelter!" you'…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 05:53 PM
1

Why do people upvote shit like this here? "Women can trade sex for stuff" is just so far from a valid piece of rhetoric I dont even... the idea behind womens shelters is to provide an emergency escape from abusive living situations, you can say there should be more shelters for men fleeing abusive living arrangements and you're absolutely right, but to flip it around and say women don't need shelter because they can always find someone to screw and live with... it misses so many points at once, …
/r/MensRights22/01/17 04:17 PM
0

lol what the fuck. just what the fuck. please be trolling. i'm not hopeful but please. for the love of fuck if you can do just one thing, one thing to warm an internet strangers' heart, something you can do that will unequivocally actually contribute to the aims of this movement... stop using the term "feminazi" unironically
/r/MensRights22/01/17 04:05 PM
-4

Will this sub ever manage to be anything more than strawman central? I'm staying tuned.
/r/MensRights07/01/17 07:24 PM
1

ProLife sounds like a sadistic megacorp from a cyberpunk novel. please just hyphenate it like everyone else does
/r/MensRights01/01/17 10:31 PM
2

It's not a stupid generalization to portray all women as lazy beasts for whom "seeking a job" is "radical"? Well, there's another user i can tag as a concern troll. wish you'd fuck off to the red pill.
/r/MensRights31/12/16 09:06 PM
2

so your assertion about it being because females don't want to get their hands dirty is pure conjecture then.
/r/MensRights27/11/16 01:03 AM
1

any sources or further reading on this trend?
/r/MensRights26/11/16 04:55 PM
1

It was her sadness that drove more people away than her face. well i don't know how you can claim to know that for sure, however i believe i've seen the same phenomenon in action, for example in people with depression. knowing how kids are, i can't imagine a disfigured person making it out of the school system without extreme self esteem issues, and therefore i don't see away around developing this figured people only talked to her out of a sense of pity or politeness perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 10:09 PM
1

How was that an attack? sticking a mild insult on to the end of an on-topic response?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 10:00 PM
3

I'd propose that our media culture plays a huge role in this since in fiction, very rarely will there be a character with a grotesque appearance or creepy mannerisms who doesn't turn out to be an antagonist of some sort. Not a justification though, my heart goes out to those men and to ugly or disfigured women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:57 PM
1

To just clam up without even offering a platitude is an admission that you can only think of bad things to say about them. note that this doesn't mean you actually don't like anything about that person, you could just be drawing a blank but it will always come off as insulting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:52 PM
1

NO one seems to have any idea of how that works when asked Human sexuality is pretty diverse. God knows that feet don't inspire any lust in me, and yet I see footjobs from time to time in otherwise completely vanilla porn so that must be a reasonably large minority! Generally applicable advice is therefore gonna be hard to come by.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:47 PM
1

uh... hmm. so is casual sex any sex outside of marriage then? also what's the significance or meaning of sex being casual or not, when you're willing to define it so broadly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:35 PM
1

I agree with what you're saying here but i'm left asking, how the hell is anyone supposed to get to the bottom of anything with this mentality? how can we draw any conclusions about how much sex people actually have?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:33 PM
1

it's not something that TRP or BP do specifically, it's something that all humans do. one source is never enough for anyone on any side. we're simply not willing to believe ourselves wrong that easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:33 PM
1

indeed. 9/11 truthers etc are frequently armed with mountains of "evidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 09:30 PM
1

It's much more distant from sexual desirability Idk about that, I'd say its more of a prerequisite. Have to be halfway decent looking in order to be considered, and after that point looks matter less than the other things you mentioned. Just because it's not the final criterion doesn't mean it isn't one at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:37 PM
4

You, i would guess. what is so fun about repeatedly attempting to derail average online discussions, that i cannot say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:16 AM
5

so are you actually a male supremacist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 08:32 PM
1

agree completely, but also the exact same breakdown applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:42 AM
1

right, so in OP's scenario there's been no sign of reluctance whatsoever yet. great work, OP.
/r/seduction11/11/16 09:01 PM
1

and which social media site censors curse words? (not sarcastically saying there aren't any, just actually would like to know as i haven't encountered any.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 09:09 PM
1

when did people actually start spelling it "fuccboi"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:53 PM
-4

Wow, well done. It's users like you that really demonstrate what men's rights is all about :)
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:29 PM
2

well i mean. plenty of women settle. would most prefer Chad QB, idk probably? but they recognise reality and are more than willing to get down with the occasional average looking philosopher poet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:53 AM
3

Our culture also celebrates and justifies killings that aren't legitimized by the state. For example killing your spouse after catching them red-handed with another lover is a common trope that is rarely portrayed in a negative way - rather it's viewed as an inescapable tragedy that the cheating partner is at least partially responsible for. There's definitely an argument to be made for the existence of a "murder culture". Especially in America.
/r/MensRights30/12/15 04:30 PM
-5

I can't believe you morons still upvote this comment every time. It's NOT TRUE. Yes, your chances of succeeding in a cold approach increase dramatically with your attractiveness and if you're disgusting then yes, you probably can't talk to women without them having an aversion to you. But when in a public place, each individual woman has a completely unique predisposition to being approached, many are going to be nearly equally irritated by an attractive man trying to get their number as an ugly…
/r/MensRights30/12/15 04:14 PM
-1

such a looney idea and it's horrifying how many people here support it. here's why. so everyone here is obsessed with the possibility of a false conviction, an instance where the decision of the court did not reflect the objective truth. if it's possible for a case to be decided against an innocent, is it not also possible for a case to be decided in favour of a guilty man? of course it is. and just as there are men in jail for rapes they did not commit, there are acquitted rapists walking the s…
/r/MensRights25/12/15 05:41 AM
-10

stop being ridiculous. you know it's satirical.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 02:18 PM
2

your wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:31 AM
1

Fair point. and come to think of it, I wouldn't try to deny that women usually don't get an appropriate amount of credit for the effort they put into looking good. however my personal feeling is that that level of effort (described for example by OP) is not necessary in order to maintain the current sexual market climate of women having higher default SMV. I think this is far more a result of biology than of women working hard to be pretty. Also (and this doesn't really impact the debate here at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:28 PM
3

well at this point i have to assume you are misunderstanding me on purpose. As I've said this is a flawed perception of sex, which feeds into resentment and entitlement. Well, what you described certainly is a flawed perception. Luckily it's not MY perception, and it's not what I described at all. People think it should be "fair" (or as fair as bartering goes). It isn't. People think that if you wait long enough or if you jump through enough hoops, the answer will be yes. That's not how it works…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:15 PM
2

"sounds like"? it explicitly IS a revenge fantasy. and how can you even criticize that? everyone wants to believe their opponents will one day meet some grand karmic fate. many of the top posts of all time on TRP are exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:40 PM
1

you picked a pretty shite example there to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:39 PM
2

especially if it involves them thinking they are the ones who changed you for the better. yeah, the victim-healer motif is a pretty compelling basis for romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:38 PM
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You seem to think my model describes a situation where women have a "price" that men have to meet in order to get laid. That's not what i'm attempting to describe at all. The business of sex is not akin to going to a shop and buying something. It's akin to a meeting, a negotiation. There's a deal to be made. Of course it can be called off at any time. That doesn't change the fact that the man is attempting to demonstrate his value in order to "earn" sex. There is no "right", and there's no telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:24 PM
5

you don't think the fact that she included that last sentence implies she understands the connection??? :/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:07 PM
5

Who is "naturally gifted"? How does anyone know what portion of a person's talent is natural and what portion is earned? It's impossible to identify, and it is constantly implied (for example, by athletic industries) that such talents are almost entirely earned through hard work. So yeah, it only works for sex because that is the only place where people think they have an understanding of how easy/difficult it is to achieve sex for women/men respectively. in other talents, it's very unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:06 PM
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Sex depends on consent, which is freely given. ...by the woman. In the vast, vast majority of sexual encounters, this is true. The guy was always "down". He had to wait until she was ready. And he had to (again, in all likelihood) impress her in some way to convince her that he was good enough to fuck. Sex isn't earned? Well, not for women it isn't. Men (one more time, in a general sense) have to demonstrate their value before women will agree to sex with them. I know it sounds horrible and ugly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:37 PM
2

Almost NO men think this way. correct... and it's also true that almost no humans think this way. the only exceptions are like, elliot rodger... both your comment and its parent are way off mark. if you think "entitlement" refers to an actual, explicit belief that a person is owed something, then it barely applies to anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:28 PM
2

Of course personality is important but as far as attracting a man goes looks will get the nice girl further than her personality. Debatable. In terms of getting laid? Of course. In terms of securing commitment? I wouldn't be so sure. Lots of high value men have been burned before and are very discerning when considering whether they should date a girl. If the man she's seeking isn't all that alpha, maybe he'll be convinced by looks alone. But to get a truly valuable man to commit, an exceptional…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:23 PM
8

That's called paraphrasing. Obviously nobody says those words specifically. But generic relationship advice does often carry this message. Especially when it's coming from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:19 PM
1

Yes of course, TRP's flair for caustic and frankly obnoxious lingo and mantras ("hamstering", "AWALT") is detrimental to the spreading of the ideology. But the "leaders" of the group at least on reddit are actually pleased by that effect, they'd rather not encourage moderates to join their ranks, or they risk reaching a tipping point where the majority of subscribers are tired of the abrasive language etc. They don't want the sub to crash and burn, which is why contributors like /u/gaylubeoil ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 11:06 PM
2

The behaviour patterns of well known RP authors make it obvious that claims like the one you mentioned are just obnoxious publicity stunts. Although I have my suspicions that at least a few of them are undesirable neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:12 PM
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I'd be surprised if there was any campus where this was the most common line of thought. There are always crazies who try to convince people of it. But they aren't taken too seriously by the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:08 PM
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As an effort to achieve gender equality, feminism has already succeeded political and legally. You're right in that these cultural standards will not go away, even if every feminist ceased all activist actions tomorrow. But like all ideologies, feminism has a "public approval" level. And it happens to be dropping right now, from my perspective. Part of a more general backlash against social justice and the cultural left, now that the atrocious behaviour and outrageous claims of various movements…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:05 PM
2

Wow, that's pathetic what he's saying to you. You should block/ignore the user though, you won't gain anything from trying to interact with him further.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:00 PM
1

calling it a "plague" implies a level of certainty that you cannot possibly have about the prevalence of these false claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 12:14 PM
2

Spreading my legs on the bus is degrading. Being attracted to women is degrading. Being what I am is degrading. except none of those things actually are. way to use insane sjws to justify not having a shred of decency.
/r/MensRights01/11/15 12:31 AM
2

you're on an mra sub, pretending to fight for some sort of justice in the world, and you're asking who cares about openly degrading language towards one gender. Are there actually negative consequences? you absolute fuckwit. disrespecting an entire gender is (very, very obviously to anyone with half a brain) a negative consequence in itself.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 08:09 PM
2

this fucking sub man. lmao.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 05:05 PM
-1

if you haven't heard of these terms you aren't very familiar with TRP at all. it doesn't take more than a few threads to find instances of all of the above. you can also look them up in TRP's sidebar glossary. What I said specifically is that TRP will not alienate people who will listen and consider their dogma. my apologies for misunderstanding but as it happens this is also patently false. TRP bans people for disagreeing with official doctrine. it's a common myth that they have some sort of op…
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:58 AM
-4

"divorce rape" "AWALT" "hamstering" if you don't find this shit degrading, if you don't think that it should alienate any reasonable person who thinks that both sexes deserve an equal amount of respect, i don't really know what to say. oh wait, i do. "please never speak to me" is a pretty good start.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:37 AM
1

gender equality, contrary to what idiots like you believe, does not involve trying to force everyone to be the same. it involves giving everyone the freedom to behave the way they want, and not be given a set of expectations based on their gender. The genders are not equal, if men and women are equal why do we have separate sports divisions? because women are biologically weaker. Women also have to have a separate division for chess. men have a wider range of IQs (a crucial stat in predicting a …
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:27 AM
0

it's controversial within the MRM and rejected throughout the larger manosphere that [reducing pressures to be masculine] is even something worth fighting for. ok... well if your opinion is that it isn't, don't expect feminists (or anyone who's serious about gender equality) to give a flying fuck what you think because you aren't fighting for gender equality. this is where you begin to truly represent your movement as a reactionary force that exists purely to fight feminism and try to regain pri…
/r/MensRights31/10/15 03:39 AM
1

None of this stuff is contradicting what i'm saying. You're failing to realise that not every individual conforms to these noted trends because humans are not purely instinctual animals that do exactly what their biology tells them to. and it's for those individuals that gender roles are harmful.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 02:52 AM
1

humans are much smarter than animals. i recognise that biological differences lead to tendencies, but nobody deserves to be ostracised for stepping away from those tendencies. it's not a bad thing for men to act macho. it's a bad thing for non-macho men to pay a social price. it's not a bad thing for women to be homemakers. it's a bad thing for women who want to live independent lives to face adversity in employment.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 02:39 AM
1

in an equal society where no gender roles are imposed, people can still choose to adopt the traditions of the past, and of course many people will. an equal society is entirely possible, it involves nothing more than eliminating stigma against those who choose to break away from traditional gender roles. why do you think that's impossible?
/r/MensRights31/10/15 01:55 AM
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...you don't see what gender roles have to do with equality. i really don't know what to say. pretty much the entire point of gender egalitarianism (besides securing equal legal and political rights, which have already been achieved in almost all developed countries) is dismantling and eliminating gender roles so that individuals don't have any expectations placed on them due to their gender. gender roles have everything to do with equality.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 01:35 AM
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what TRP philosophy amounts to is doubling down on gender roles, which serves the useful (for TRPers) function of alienating anyone who is pro-gender equality.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 12:54 AM
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>implying we need TRP this sub is SUCH A FUCKING JOKE LOL edit: if you guys disagree with me, downvote the parent comment. TRP is to men's right activism what spittle-flecked feminazis are to feminism. you cannot be a TRP supporter and an MRA. they are mutually exclusive. if you disagree with this edit, well you're just proving my original comment correct.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 12:29 AM
1

right, well nobody really feels the need to say "men and boys", it's fine to only include adults in cases such as this one. "women" is much more appropriate.
/r/MensRights09/09/15 05:48 PM
1

whether or not the strategy of "containment boards" actually works is a matter of some debate. but in the name of not excluding viewpoints from the site i think trp should stay. it should be shunned and treated as it is, but it should stay.
/r/MensRights06/09/15 05:07 AM
0

i wouldn't want TRP to be banned from the site, because there should be spaces for people to express whatever thoughts they want. But the point of reddit is that subreddits - and each subreddit's rules/content guidelines - are tailored to the needs of each community. and what an online MRA community needs is definitely not free speech. The current policy is "opinions will not be removed", which is basically an open invitation for red pill whackjobs to come in here and spam "AWALT". Continuing to…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 06:33 PM
3

I kind of hear you. I can explain where a lot of the confusion arises: there's no such thing as a "meninist". It's nothing more than a collection of shit-tier twitter accounts and a word for retarded frat boys to put on t-shirts. Nobody who takes gender issues remotely seriously would ever associate themselves with the label. So basically in the OP, the poster was attacking a straw-man label that doesn't really apply to anyone except the aforementioned idiots and blatant trolls, meanwhile in the…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 06:22 PM
3

that is literally what subs like TRP are for though. they exist to provide a space for angry people to whine in, and it doesn't belong in a gender equality sub. it's not something that the community should just shrug off, either, because image is important. if people who are predisposed to disliking men's rights movements come in here to take a look, all it takes is one shitty sexist comment for them to become completely convinced that MRAs are all like that. is it fair for them to assume? no. b…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 03:16 PM
1

lol nah. /r/mensrights upvotes sexist garbage all the time. most of the time it will get called out after a while, but if you're browsing new posts you will frequently see these posts when they are on their way up rather than down, which is honestly so embarrassing given that the entire point of the sub is supposedly fighting for gender equality. this comment is an example that comes to mind from not long ago, it was at about +20 when i first came across it.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 02:36 PM
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God damn this sub is such a joke.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 02:12 PM
0

As if mental trauma isn't a real thing. You're an idiot.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 11:07 AM
-12

It's pretty pathetic that users here have to make this joke 3 times per post at a minimum.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 06:48 PM
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unfortunately you're way too late, i'm not sure if this sub ever was a place to discuss mens rights issues with intellectual honesty but in its current state it's strictly an anti-feminist sub and (as you can tell from all the morons who upvoted that tired ass attack helicopter joke) almost nobody here is even remotely educated in gender issues.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 09:16 PM
0

Yes, absolutely. Which is why the stupidest idea in all of RP philosophy is marrying virgins. that's literally the stupidest social concept i've ever heard of. you're setting yourself up to become a post in /r/deadbeadrooms with that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 06:01 PM
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actually i'm finding this thread hilarious because you're so incredibly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 04:24 AM
0

absolutely top kek
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:00 AM
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i wasn't referring to your diction at all I was referring to the way your comment dismissed emotions as if it isn't valid for humans to feel them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 02:02 AM
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Not at all, you're completely dismissing literally all emotions. That's not human. TRP rhetoric tries to turn men into relationship computers, using pure logic to decide their course of action. it's fucked. everyone hates that shit. don't ridicule or dismiss people just because they have irrational emotions. it's perfectly human.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 12:42 AM
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trust me, it's the message. listen to yourself: "feefees". lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:27 PM
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Please never do this in a situation where there is no sexual subtext. If you're just at a cafe or something that is plainly sexual harassment.
/r/seduction13/05/15 11:49 PM
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95%, that I don't know about. Sensationalism is a big part of modern media and RP content is definitely susceptible - most major well known bloggers use provocative language and generally act like assholes because it's a successful strategy for increasing page views. Reasonable RP is a bit more rare than you're saying, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:02 PM
0

Both of those statements are almost certainly true. Although "naturally" is a pretty ambiguous term and I would be skeptical of anyone who claims to know for certain whether the trend of males being better leaders is 100% biological or 100% socialized, it's got to be partially both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 05:53 PM
2

this is why this sub is 10000x better than trp
/r/seduction06/05/15 06:56 PM
4

ITT: biotruths.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:29 PM
1

No, there is no woosh. Stop embarrassing yourself. You made a shitty false analogy and I'm not going to debate anything with the premise that people should care equally about unborn fetuses and born children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:24 PM
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Yes, and this is entirely part of RP theory. Men are horny and women (with occasional exceptions) are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:07 PM
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aren't the route to a healthy relationship only because you define "healthy relationship" as one where the woman is empowered sexually and otherwise. There's no objective reason to believe this and in fact a lot of women do enjoy being at least partially subservient to their male partner, especially sexually. I'm not saying that it's good or right for men to try to force this framework on every woman they date, but you should acknowledge that it's entirely possible for an unequal relationship to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:00 PM
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isn't anti-male Well of course not, it's explicitly pro-male and reactionary. I agree with a lot of the theory but by effectively banning all critical discussion about it, the sub itself is literally nothing more than a circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:04 PM
1

It wasn't a post, it was a comment. I could find it if I went back like 30 pages into my comment history but I don't think it's worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:02 PM
1

Top kek. Embryos aren't children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:01 PM
1

Tried using Redective but according to it i have never posted to TRP with this account, so i guess the threads got nuked at some point? This was well over a year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:43 PM
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The fact that all that stuff has to be banned is pretty straightforward proof that TRP is an intellectually dishonest community. I got banned just for suggesting that when it comes to questions of paternity, the life of the future child should be a priority. All the dogma and shutting down discussion does nothing but reinforce the perception of RP as "cult-like" and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:25 PM
2

Maybe... but if it did, I doubt I would use the term. Like, thinking all the girls I have mutually platonic friendships with, I've never in my life considered using the term "friendzone" describe those relationships. Honestly it's a stupid term. The only legit use I've ever had for it is describing crushes I've had on straight male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 04:13 PM
1

I dunno, I just think that guys in general are bitter rather than accepting about not being able to get any. And girls rarely use the term at all because they don't want to acknowledge that their male friends probably aren't happy about the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 03:49 PM
2

I'm skeptical that was ever what it meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 05:57 AM
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...? I just meant for clarity. dank meme though xD
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:46 PM
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don't use it interchangeably.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:12 PM
3

you're probably not even 20 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:38 PM
1

Uh. Drop the N from every acronym and this paragraph makes sense. Right now it's utterly confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:36 PM
-6

dank meme, nothing funnier than mental trauma, bro!! xD xD xD
/r/MensRights18/04/15 10:13 PM
1

Yes. Think about it, if you want a raise or something you present a case that emphasizes your value to your employer, you're trying to manipulate them into appreciating your work more. Regardless of if you're being honest or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 09:50 PM
1

No. Any interaction where you are trying to obtain something. Unless you have no strategy beyond "ask for the thing I want and pray".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:56 PM
5

You define manipulation as "any emotional appeal I don't like". There's no actual distinction. What you described is manipulation, you're manipulating a person to want to interact with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:56 AM
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Probably yeah. But could you give me an example of a desire-driven social interaction that couldn't be labelled "manipulation"? Like, even if you're being completely honest and upfront in your sexual interactions and so on, you're still praying that your "honesty game" will get you laid. Regardless of if it's effective, it's an attempt to appeal to a set of emotions to achieve a desired effect. I'd call that manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 11:04 PM
1

top. kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 05:42 AM
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roflmao, you haven't done any research and your assertion here makes that obvious: I know you haven't because I KNOW men don't want to date sluts if they have the choice. You're relying on literally nothing besides personal anecdote, and denying the claims of anyone who hasn't had the exact same personal experience as you. Science doesn't trust anecdote for this exact reason - different people have different experiences. Truth comes from collecting many experiences from a diverse sample of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:34 PM
3

This comment is the entire reason everyone knows RP broscience is completely made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:20 PM
3

dang nice science bro. Can you link even one study on this brain chemistry claim that says anything more conclusive than "this might be a thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:09 AM
-4

I wouldn't have said that if it weren't a noticeable trend.
/r/MensRights19/03/15 07:58 AM
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Joss is great and the fact that he likes to include sexual minorities or defy gender tropes never compromises his work. The fact that you can get upvotes just by slapping the "sjw" label on him shows that this sub is largely populated by reactionaries who aren't actually in favour of equality at all.
/r/MensRights19/03/15 12:38 AM
0

Look, I agree that rape culture is mostly bogus and the statistics frequently used to support it are exaggerated or misleading. I only take issue with you making a claim like "victims are more likely to respond" with no evidence, and this linked opinion piece doesn't do much to back you up. "Logic" isn't enough to convince people. Either you're content with jerking about it and preaching to the choir, or you need to shore up gaps like that in your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:42 PM
1

That's not logical at all. It's an assumption with really no grounds for being true whatsoever. My own "logic" leads me to think that because sexual assault is traumatic, those affected by it would be less willing to participate in surveys and studies about it. However I recognise that this is just an assumption and I would never present it as fact without any related evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:51 PM
1

citation needed tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:21 AM
3

It's not really about tangible benefits. It's about standing for something. Everyone has to. And a lot of young folks want to stand for women because everyone loves women. Once someone gets on board with feminism, it takes a lot to convince them to consider possibilities outside of what they're constantly being told by their media sources. And there are now enormous institutions [university departments, nonprofits and private focus groups, individual activists, authors, and (increasingly importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:18 AM
2

This is a troll post mocking transsexuals. you would do well not to enter any serious discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:07 AM
3

There's no evidence for any of those claims. They're way too complex to be tested scientifically, and the body of research for this stuff is kinda small to begin with. As far as RP is concerned, anecdotes suffice for evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 11:05 PM
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Yes. While some uber-masculine terpers might see that as an affront to their pride and so on, the knowledge definitely wouldn't bother me at all. I would probably have way more respect for a girl that acknowledges game and runs it herself tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 11:12 PM
8

just realised, it's actually a great approach if you personally don't give a shit about gender issues, because it can easily be spun as mocking the patriarchy or mocking sjw's depending on the reaction you get.
/r/seduction25/02/15 04:24 AM
1

Surely by the letter of the law they're both rapists. e: I know that in all likelihood only the man will be prosecuted. But I've never heard of a legal code that would specifically state that only women are unable to consent while intoxicated. Especially since that would be unconstitutional in almost every democratic country.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:52 PM
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So your justification is mainly that we live in a sexual climate where men have to do all the work. Can you not see how that very same climate is perpetuated by the idea that female sexuality is something to be protected? If that perception is eliminated and all women are as sexually open as they want to be, sex becomes a more casual and commonplace thing for everyone. There's no more "navigating seas of delicate sensibilities". Now, you said high partner count should be a turnoff for everyone, …
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/15 04:37 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/CGX82Rw.png
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/15 04:22 PM
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alright, i'm thirsty for downvotes and also the one-sidedness of the conversation so far is making me sick, so i'll bite. Ever watched a red-carpet rewards show? Famous male actors, when stopped for brief interviews, are without fail, asked about their most recent projects, upcoming projects, what it was like working with X other famous person, and just generally a bunch of stuff directly related to their career, which is acting. Actresses are asked, without fail, about their clothing and their …
/r/PussyPassDenied26/01/15 03:55 AM
1

I didn't say it was a sexist shit hole. I was saying that the comment made it look that way. Especially with all the upvotes for that comment.
/r/MensRights10/01/15 05:18 PM
1

I'm not suggesting anything actually. But a sub that claims to represent an equality movement can't just be like "hurr durr women have it so easy", that's completely ignoring the experiences of lots of women the same way that "only women experience unrealistic standards" ignores the male perspective. How can you not see the hipocrisy here?
/r/MensRights10/01/15 02:31 PM
-1

Making a sweeping generalization about what men find attractive and portraying beauty standards for women as being much lower than those for men. I know, I know - you probably think "well everyone knows it's truuuuuue". you are missing the point of a gender equality movement. The sub will ignore me because this is actually just a male attitudes circlejerk sub - hence the downvotes. But this language and the process of holding up a common male perspective as objective truth is exactly what people…
/r/MensRights10/01/15 06:51 AM
-27

if you're trying to make this sub look like a sexist shit hole, nice work.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:58 PM
1

hahahahaha shitposts constantly and so blatantly that even default sub users downvote wahhhhh i'm being brigaded!!! :(((((
/r/MensRights09/01/15 07:01 PM
1

There is makeup for the sake of makeup, and then there is makeup that is designed to perfect features and not stand out. The latter is great if done right. The former is a misstep if you're trying to attract aaverage het guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 11:38 PM
2

I unno mate. A lot of girls seem to genuinely believe that guys that really want to be """good boyfriend material""" are common. I attribute that to the bulk of beta guys that advertise themselves as such because they think it will get them pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 11:35 PM
1

Meanwhile RP tries to tell men that women don't know what they want either... Interesting. I think it's true that a lot of people say they want things they don't actually care that much for in order to seem hip or romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 11:33 PM
2

Thanks. These are decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 04:15 AM
1

Sources sources sources please.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 12:44 AM
4

Reddit is a terrible sample because the demographics skew heavily male site-wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 12:30 AM
2

Long story short - don't depend on other people for your happiness. You can't be consistently happy that way. Instead, be happy with yourself and people will come along and join you. this is so very well said. i feel like i should write it on my wall or something.
/r/seduction17/10/14 04:59 AM
1

I posit that if you correctly balance the first three you will be inherently moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 11:56 PM
3

Human interactions are human interactions. People have no "natural state" and "being yourself" amounts to "acting how society has told you to act for the past decades of your life". Edit: actually this is too reductionist, even for reddit. "Being yourself" is more of a soup of genetics, socialisation and your current environment. Regardless the point stands that you when you "act naturally" your actions are still in no small way the product of instructions given to you through various mediums by…
/r/seduction05/10/14 03:48 AM
1

In addition to improving your nonchalant image, lines like this help put the onus on her to prove herself as a noteworthy lay. Which is ideal.
/r/seduction05/10/14 03:33 AM
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Do you have an actual argument as to why his advice has anything wrong with it or are you planning on debating exclusively by proxy?
/r/seduction05/10/14 03:30 AM
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Just don't go there :(
/r/seduction26/09/14 03:16 AM
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Lying about finances in court is a serious crime. Sure a man could try this and hope he gets away with it, but for women they have full legal authority to proceed with the screwing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 03:13 AM
2

That you are willingly portraying yourself as an easy victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 12:43 AM
14

Why is it easier to invent safety goggles than eliminate all chances of debris flying at worker's faces?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 11:04 PM
2

And what conclusion are we supposed to arrive at?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 11:03 PM
2

Consider an alternate criminal incident where the headline looks like this: "MAN WEARING GOLD AND DIAMOND CHAINS IN HARLEM IS BRUTALLY MUGGED" What are your feelings toward the victim in this scenario? Getting drugged is not the victims fault and even if this testing equipment is easily available they're under no obligation to use it. Just as a pedestrian is under no obligation to have a CCW. However getting absolutely hammered is a very dangerous endeavour in the wrong environment, and it's rid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 11:01 PM
1

Valid point. But have you noticed how single moms are glorified in mommy media? I'm not sure a lack of paternal funding will really drive women away from trying to play the con game. In my mind someone is either honest or dishonest and not much can change that. Even if the opportunity cost of attempting to cuckhold is high, some just can't help it. Plus even if DNA testing was state funded yet optional, society would probably try to shame men for wanting to have test done. It's a sign that he do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 07:25 PM
1

Yeah exactly. What a sucker. Marriage is a scam anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 03:07 PM
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Hm? Did you read what I said? If the father denies paternity and wants to leave then it's not a peace of mind issue. The state is essentially pressing charges and should finance and provide evidence. Not the same thing as an unsuspicious father who is "just wondering" - you either plead innocent or go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 01:45 PM
1

Ad homing? Defs not a word bro!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 01:11 AM
10

In the case of men denying paternity yeah, sure. Is that not how it is now? But in the case of a man just "wanting to be sure" because he can't trust his lifelong partner. Haha. I don't want to finance that loser's peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 01:10 AM
0

The title of the sub includes debate - so if you're not here to do that, you're a troll. Doesn't matter which side you're on. You mock blue pillers. Great, alright. You're so self assured that you feel no need to debate either internally or externally about the veracity of your claims or the morality of your ideology. Wish I was that confident. But please just fucking leave - TRP is basically a circlejerk now what with bans being handed to minor dissenters. If you want to be patted on the back f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 01:08 AM
1

I'm not trying to discredit you - that was the point of my last three comments in the thread, which you promptly ignored in favour of insulting me! The gig is up, sonny! You're a trooolllll! You can stop pretending! It's okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 12:59 AM
1

"Blue pill woman" who thinks that transgendered people are cranks with a mental disorder... I'm gonna go all in on this one and give you the troll label without even engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 12:56 AM
1

BPSJWs Yeah they definitely dont want to debate. I've been trolled a shitton.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 12:53 AM
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Should the state pay because it is generally good for society? Try as I may I can't figure out how this is a good thing for society. As far as I can see the only party with a vested interest in ensuring paternity is the (alleged) father. And as far as I'm concerned that means Pops should pay for it. It's the risk you take when you enter a marriage. If you don't trust this person you intend to spend the rest of your life with to tell you the truth on one of the biggest issues of parenting... You …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 12:45 AM
1

Tagged as troll. Damn you really had me for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 12:34 AM
1

You say that as if it's perfectly intuitive and you don't have to defend it. Haha. And you still won't stop referring to "equal rights" as "extra rights". You know what's an extra right? The right to have sex and then demand your partner pay you many thousands of dollars anually for two decades. Not sure why you're here if you snap that easily though. You want my advice, just stop participating in gender politics discussions 100%. There's lots of subs and other communities where everyone will no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:52 PM
1

Just to recap: You believe that solely because women are the gender in which developing fetuses reside, women should have 100% control of both the child and the man who had 50% responsibility in its creation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:27 PM
2

"Extra rights" meaning... Exactly the same rights women have. And the crux of this argument is the fact that we live in 2014 where women can very, very easily choose to prevent themselves from conceiving, as well as terminate a pregnancy if they get one. So this "burden" you speak of is by no means forced upon them, it's chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:19 PM
1

If women are going to claim "my body, my choice" then they need to take responsibility for whether they decide to give birth or not. But men are off the hook if they want! Wow, so nuanced! Clearly not sexism! I'm a little confused. My interpretation of collegebrah's stance is that both men and women should have the option to absolve themselves of parental responsibility. How is that anything other than equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:09 PM
1

An absentee father is breaking the law - he's just getting away with it. This is the same thing - a woman is breaching the grounds on which a custody order is made. She just happens to have not gotten caught telling blatant lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:05 PM
3

As someone who largely agrees with your sentiments on the issue, listen: Stop comparing it to rape. "Divorce rape" "Parental Rape" that shit earns you nothing but scorn anywhere other than MRA circles. If you want to spread a message you need to learn how to present it - there's a reason everyone remembers MLK as a great man but Malcolm X is thought of as at least a bit shady.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:03 PM
1

If it's not the style of rape you mentioned then the man will probably go the rest of his life with no complaints and will certainly never refer to it as rape. Examples: Drunk sex, was "convinced" through persistence, etc. Things that shitty feminists want to call rape. Men don't regret that shit, because society doesn't tell them it lowers there value like it does to women. Unless you get a woman pregnant, I guess. Then you're totally fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:00 PM
3

You are correct. But don't you think they're doing the right thing? This is actually the debate which got me banned from TRP. I'm of the opinion that the child should come first. Within reason. If the dad gets a DNA test when the child is still an infant, and finds out the bitch was lying, he has every right to leave. He should have a legally protected right to get that test and to leave. BUT. Say it's a decade later, the family is as happy as families can be these days, the father is still clue…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 10:54 PM
2

I can accept that. 3.7% is probably a better rate to work with. I have no doubts that 10% is recycled and hard to source, a form of mild hysteria from the MR community, in the exact way that a lot of feminists claim that 25% of women are raped. Having said that, it really doesn't effect the debate that much. The beta bucks mentality is still wrong, rape is still wrong. The only real room for debate is about legal status, what the punishment should be, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 10:48 PM
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The mods of the subreddit. But I doubt his comments really qualify as breaking subreddit rules. Plus the sub is going through an experiment right now where no comments get removed, so... double not effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 10:44 PM
2

I'm not sure what you're implying. That people will no longer make babies through intercourse??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 10:42 PM
1

He said he wanted to "slaughter" people he felt wronged by. He used that word. Just stop saying things please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 06:44 PM
1

I hate most feminists. Most feminists hate me. We have yet to kill each other. And ~100% of interactions are thusly benign. One crazy motherfucker killed some people. It doesn't follow that killing people you don't like is logical. The arguments in required reading such as The Misandry Bubble are vitriolic because the authors are passionate, not because they want violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:48 PM
2

Like I said, it may be subconscious initially. The seeds of anti-feminism are planted in many male brains by the lack of appreciation expressed for male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:44 AM
1

I am definitely not a person who has ever said that actual TRP content doesn't represent TRP ideology. It does. So stop trying to pull arguments into this that were never made by me. Go ahead and find some "highly upvoted comment" or mod statement that says "If women don't like you, fucking kill them as well as yourself!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:41 AM
0

Well misogyny can mean whatever you want it to nowadays I suppose. The debate on that is more complex than you make it out to be. What you certainly wont find in the sidebar is "indeed, you should value the attention of women so highly as to be driven to murder-suicide by the lack of it." As a matter of fact that is about as succinct an anti-thesis as I can come up with to the material posted there. Granted, there's certainly a lack of emphasis on respect for women in that content. But the sugge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:38 AM
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I prefer to listen to the subs individual whose relation to the community is highly contentious actions, and not what it says ;) FTFY. Also, I love to extrapolate information about movements based on the actions of a few. Like these caustic and mindless feminist protesters at my university: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 That must be what all feminists are like. After all I judge the movement by members' actions and not what it claims to be about!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 02:38 AM
2

Hard to say actually. Yes, there are white knights who heed the feminist battlecry wherever they are online. But even those... To a degree I think they hate it. They hate the derision from the radicals and the general dismissal from the liberals. An oft quoted feminist said "If men want to help us, they can get the hell out of our way." Attitudes like that can only breed resentment, even if it's subconscious. Another: "Yeah, so you're not raping women. Do you want a fucking cookie?" Men who go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 02:29 AM
1

I don't think there's any reasonably sized discussion subs that don't favour minimalist sub structure. Nonetheless, it looks quite alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 02:21 AM
3

Was it really a good concept? Was it really? One day a year there are no laws and obviously everyone dives on this opportunity to go on a spree of murders, rapes and home invasions. Ooooh what a bold, original, and impressive grimdark statement about the human condition. Kidding! It's older than dirt. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreBastards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 02:18 AM
2

Are you... are you joking? I really hope you're joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 09:31 PM
1

Well as everyone knows, the only way you can exercise your equality is by acting like a total asshat all the time, the way that all men do. Submitting, even in a perfectly consensual sexual situation, amounts to bowing down and sucking the fat dick of the patriarchy. </SARCASM>. FUCK. THAT. NOISE.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 09:31 PM
2

Actually lots of people think that way. People with successful and wide-ranging sex lives think that way. Is it a guaranteed thing that your SO wants to be dominated? Of course not. It's an accurate generalisation, though. And it's also true that a lot of feminist sources decry BDSM and claim that empowered women never want to feel inferior. Does the article create a caricature of feminist attitudes toward sex? Yes. Does it generalise too much? Yes, that too. But it ultimately succeeds in cuttin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 09:29 PM
3

Ah. True. Blue pill is very much against highlighting social/biological differences between the sexes, which is what you did. So you'll forgive my assumption I hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 04:14 AM
2

RP flair. prolly get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 01:17 AM
4

Hm. Seems like if your mate is actually paying any attention to you, he would get dread gamed himself. If there's any TRP strategy that men can be affected by as easily as women, it's dread. I know this because it happens to male friends even when it's obvious that their girl isn't doing it intentionally, though that is usually a sign of low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 01:16 AM
9

However, reminding them of other options can be implicit, in that she will notice when other girls check you out. Girls are a lot less, well, completely moronic than a lot of redpillers believe (for [what is in my opinion] the best theory why, see this thread). Your SO will notice subtle hints that you have high SMV. Being at ease with girls and real confidence are big indicators even if the appreciation is subconscious. The notion that you must shove evidence of your ability to roam in her face…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 01:12 AM
4

I don't know why they all don't just take a purple pill flair. Who wants to be associated with devotion to a community like that anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 01:05 AM
5

It's important to recognise, I think, that reading TRP is supposed to be some sort of secret weapon that in effect allows you to be a man you really arent. A shortcut. Yes, sub leaders and high profile, quality manosphere bloggers will often speak about how that isn't the right or most effective way to become desirable and powerful. And they're right. But the quantity of "One weird trick to make girls love you" content that pops up on the subreddit (and gets upvoted) goes to show that there's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 01:02 AM
4

Yes, well unless you're from wonderful DPRK or something, your constitution has a similar clause. Technicalities are great, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 06:13 PM
5

I just think it's a little strange that you question anyone's "right" to call anyone anything. Where do they obtain the right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Does it make sense to foster negative feelings toward promiscuity if you want sexually active and experienced women? No, it doesn't. But that has nothing to do with legal or moral "rights".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 05:52 PM
1

God. This is really how some of them think things happen in da clubz.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/14 02:24 AM
4

Should probably get yourself a blue pill flair. If you think it was justified without a real investigation, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/14 02:13 AM
13

Any community that treats all dissent as "diluting the message", I can't fully get behind that. I believe in alpha/beta social dynamics but not the way TRP says you should use it, and also the community so toxic it's scary. So yes, you are largely right to assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/14 02:00 AM
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I tried to be a voice of moderation in the sub and call out shit like this for what it is - blatant abuse of an established power dynamic and complete lack of empathy. It got me banned. Essentially, there are readers who want to call out the more extreme posts but their voices are silenced by the most extremist of the bunch - the mods. Just remember that if they ever claim they "don't censor" it's complete, outright bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/14 01:39 AM
2

Suspect it was a Christian doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:58 PM
3

How can you confirm that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:56 PM
3

TRP is so concerned about the "message" being diluted that they mindlessly applaud the most virulent and offensive posters. In spite of the fact that more moderate manosphere bloggers offer much better lifestyle and sexual interaction advice eg. The Rational Male. It reminds me a lot of evangelical Christians. It's all "the message" this and "concern trolling" that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:34 PM
3

Perhaps "bitching about" and "holding to a standard" are different things. RP doctrine expects and assumes women to be horrible and self centred, but it doesn't expect them to change. So I guess the conclusion is that everyone is going to be horrible and self centred as retaliation for being abused in the past, and then that becomes the standard MO for interactions with strangers. Which makes me quite sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:31 PM
1

Indeed. And if the person unsatisfied with the marriage makes more money than their partner, then they have a shit ton of assets tied up, meaning that instigating a "no-fault" divorce runs heavily against their favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:27 PM
1

You seem pretty passionate about this. I know this post is outdated but out of curiousity do you have any more similar cases to contrast with in which a similar aged male rapist got a much harsher sentence? I'm certain there's plenty of stories but I don't really know where to begin searching.
/r/PussyPass20/03/14 06:01 AM
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aren't hard enough on the assholes You kidding? Assholes are applauded on the daily in TRP. They're alpha, after all. I very much agree with what you've said though. I know dozens and dozens of women who are perfect examples of what TRP thinks "all women are like". But on the contrary, almost every woman I've ever been involved with is what they would call a "unicorn". TRP is far from devoid of good content. There's lots of good advice for self-improvement, getting laid, and protecting yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 02:46 PM
4

you hate women Why are you even here? Clearly it's not because you actually want to challenge your own views...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/13 06:12 AM
7

Well again, not forming meaningful relationships is largely the point. A majority of trp guys have decided that it's easier to just devote time to themselves, and limit female interactions to both platonic friendships and exclusively sexual encounters. And given that context, the advice given in the sub is very helpful. In what way are you using the word "good"? Who are you to judge if MGTOWs are living their lives in a "good" way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 08:03 PM
1

In truth, it's just as likely as not to be completely made up. You ask me, the whole science portion of TRP is largely navel-gazing. But the advice for getting girls? Works. That's all I can attest to without any real scientific knowledge - no amount of feminism has reduced female desire for masculine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 08:01 PM
3

Evolutionary biology has everything to do with TRP. As I said, the central premise is that almost 100% of women are attracted to """alpha""" traits, or actions that demonstrate a high social, sexual, and genetic value. This is primarily supported through the idea that the majority of people are genetic ancestors of a) males who had sex with a lot of women, and b) women who had sex with a lot of men, but only one at a time, as their needs to be a period of pregnancy and rearing in between. Theref…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:31 PM
4

Can confirm. I agree with the title statement, I just don't think the appropriate response is to threaten women into monogamy, because, well, abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 02:27 PM
4

Not taking women seriously is the whole point. Have you read any of the red pill recommended reading? The driving theory is that acting like you don't care too much about the interaction, you aren't attached to girls, you have other friends, other hobbies, and other girls you can fuck if this one doesnt work out, those are all behaviours that make a positive impression, because they portray you as a high-value mate. Either you believe the evolutionary biology stuff, or you don't. If you at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 02:17 PM
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If you found out for certain that you've been cheated and lied to, your anger is completely justified. But like I said, ignorance is bliss, and single parent homes are ruining our country.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 02:45 AM
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Why is it such a big deal? Ignorance is bliss, dude. It's just gonna ruthlessly fuck up the life of the child. If you get married, you've already resigned yourself to a loss at this whole "game" of genetic distribution.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/13 01:21 AM
2

You have to understand that subscribers of this sub have to deal with a lot of concern trolling. And he is right. If you're genuine, you should read the listed material in the sidebar or view the top posts of all time. If you find yourself disagreeing with some or all of what you hear, well, nobody here really stands to gain or lose anything from your departure.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/13 02:10 PM
1

Money, dude. That, and he may or may not be a funny guy.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 07:28 AM
65

Can we cut the cynical bullshit for a minute and just appreciate the fact that a married woman actually cares about her looks and her health? Shit gives me hope, dude!
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 07:13 AM
2

The writing is very good! You seem to know what you're doing as far as technical writing skill goes, and of course I love hearing about life in places less shitty than North America. I'll probably feel guilty at some points for enjoying the unabashed womanising so much, probably because I read feminist counterpart blogs equally often.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 06:54 AM
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That's what's most horrific about this particular brand of "feminism". It assumes that all women who do something that pleases a man have been coerced and manipulated, as if they are completely incapable of making responsible decisions for themselves. I find it very belittling and condescending, more so to women than to men.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/13 01:07 AM
2

I don't think it's men that need to change. All of society needs to change, and I'm asking why it should be the responsibility of men to bring about change for the entire world, not just their own mindset. It's a daunting task. You also misplaced the emphasis on "really". I'm saying [most/many/this is a generalisation try not to dispute the shit out of it because it's quite evidently true] desire female attention greatly. Additionally, you can't compare the changing of social attitudes to the su…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 04:34 PM
1

Why should the responsibility fall to men? Until societies attitudes towards men change, being the person who tries to change the system and go against gender roles is pretty much self-emasculation and won't lead to the kind of female attention that men really want. So your options are: devote your life trying to alter social opinions to give non-masculine men a chance at being "alpha" (an absolutely monumental task that can certainly not be completed in a lifetime, even if the vast majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/13 12:50 PM
1

Tip: you can create an instant link to a subreddit by adding /r/ in front of it: /r/purplepilldebate
/r/TheRedPill09/10/13 12:25 PM
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Except for it wouldn't even be remotely similar. What the hell is wrong with you? She legally couldn't escape the country, she had no rights.
/r/TheRedPill23/09/13 05:35 PM
0

>implying zero overlap between women and politicians
/r/TheRedPill17/08/13 07:21 PM
4

The victory is in the fact that they care enough about the content posted here that they would waste their time in such a manner. It shows that they take it seriously, view it as a threat.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/13 03:01 AM
1

Seems like it would be pretty easy to let a girl know early on that you have zero interest in her "behaving" like that.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/13 04:39 PM
2

Are there any red pill resources dedicated to learning how not to be "an idiot that doesn't know how to get a girl off"?
/r/TheRedPill30/05/13 06:23 PM
3

I think this should be higher up than all the people claiming that it's literally impossible to argue with anyone who believes in rape culture. Refusing to participate in debate and genuinely entertain your opponent's opinion is the highest sort of crime against knowledge. Yours, at least, is a defensible position that can be argued both for and against, not a "the only way to win is not to play" fallacy.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/13 09:00 PM
1

It's a matter of perception with regards to personhood. He will never understand your view and you will never understand his.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 01:49 PM
2

There isn't really a straight answer. SRS kids will tell you that you're pretty much raping the girls you sleep with. Your bros will probably tell you it's all fair. To me, here's how you draw the line: If you meet her early in the night and there's obvious attraction before alcohol becomes involved, then cool. But if you meet her at 2AM and she's stumbling around on the way to your house, that's probably not cool. Anyways, like some others have said, this is something you should think hard abou…
/r/seduction22/01/13 07:19 PM
1

Not really that subtle...
/r/seduction22/01/13 04:26 PM
1

Lmao. Possibly a bit too forward for me, but if that's your shtick...
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:03 PM
1

Shh, I'm trying to stir up misogynistic comments to share with my SRS buddies. We really get off on that stuff. Actually though, I ended up getting banned from the prime for calling them out - they were claiming that a shot of a girl with some cleavage constituted "child porn". Odd how even though I agree with them on a lot of things, they kick me out for having a mind of my own. But enough about that. This thread has generated a lot of great ideas, yours are no exception!
/r/seduction22/01/13 03:02 PM
3

To this I'd say that very few things said here are completely universal. It's up to you to adapt the suggestions to your situation. So in your case, rather than completely excluding texting as a method of communication, keep in mind the principles behind that advice: -You get far less mileage out of a texting conversation due to the lack of sensory input. If she can't see you smile and/or wink when you make a flirty remark, then you wont get anywhere near as much attraction from that compared to…
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:45 AM
1

If I'm not in state then yeah, I'll usually throw an equally lame response like "Yeah." But that (obviously) really kills conversation. I'm looking for a more explosive response.
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:08 AM
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