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Question For MenRecognitionSoft9973/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:57 PM
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I’m asking because I wonder if attraction works more like hunger or like taste in music. Attraction is affected by cultural norms but underneath that is a baseline of health biomarkers that someone needs to meet to be attractive to you. Or to the world in general. -Good skin, straight teeth, blemish-free, healthy skin, good hair, facial symmetry, proportional limbs and body, smell Vs. -Fashion, perceptions of race, hygiene practices, status, wealth, stability Women tend to put these in the bioma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 07:54 PM
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I take men's struggles seriously. It's painful to have to jump through hoops just for women to see you and acknowledge you as a date-able option. Discourse on social media from ragebaiters/engagement farmers/idiots only makes it worse. I don't live in a TikTok/X bubble so I know that the average man will not have a good experience trying to date, since he'll probably have to use an app to get anywhere. However, a lot of men don't extend the same empathy towards me. They think below average women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:21 PM
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Gen Z socializes far less than people from older generations. Most interactions take place online. People are scared of interacting with each other on social media out of fear of getting cyberbullied. Anything that gets posted online can be dug up again and be used against you. Cancel culture is acceptable to most people and it’s even a hobby these days. Bored people with nothing better to do form groups to harass and bully a single person to the point of swatting them. It’s insane out there. Tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:55 PM
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Huh, this question's premise confuses me. I’ll make a deal with ya’ll. I’ll be in support of fair dating for men IF you can show me a way jt can be done ethically, and without harming the autonomy of women ...why... are you presupposing that relationships with men (men are not a monolith!) would automatically entail harm to the autonomy of women? This means no rolling back on women’s rights, no limiting the individual rights and freedoms of others, no moral and social policing, no enforcement of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:03 PM
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Including countries like India will always skew the data in a certain direction. If I lived in the U.S. right now, I'd be very concerned about women's rights... given how Roe vs. Wade was overturned so easily under the Republicans. How many other things American women take for granted will be dismantled in the future? I've already seen Republicans starting to pivot towards attacking contraceptives. Do you personally believe in positive-sum game of gender equality (vs zero-sum game). Mostly, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:30 PM

In previous relationships, my former partners mentioned or talked about visiting sex clubs with their boyfriends at the time or having three ways with their boyfriends at the time. And when I voiced interest in possibly doing those things, I was absolutely shut down, and there was a very strange sort of feeling of prioritization being different from me that it was for these other men. It's a complete double standard, isn't it. If you were a woman, people would support you feeling this way. They'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:05 PM

Definitely less stressful overall. How can it not be? Technological progress has lead to massive innovations everywhere. In the West, very few of us are worried about not getting enough food to eat. Many of us can afford a basic level of healthcare. That said, all of this depends on where you are in life economically. Women who may have been happy raising kids and being stay-at-home moms in the past are perhaps now stuck as single women working underpaid minimum wage jobs, dreaming about having …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:18 PM
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I think it would cause an existential crisis for many women. Too many women attach their self-worth to male desire, including myself. This also applies to men. We're socially conditioned to. It's hard to escape this. Women talk about decentering men all the time, only to turn around and complain about men online. I would think that a lack of suitors would lead to people being more reasonable and do some self-reflection as to what they actually care about the most in a partner, but it'd probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:04 PM
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I think this user is a male pretending to be a female. I checked their posts out and they talk about loving a woman romantically. Wouldn't be an issue if they were bisexual, except this user is a devout Muslim. And also a blue piller despite not following progressive Islam...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:39 PM
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I've seen you mention that you're 37 years old in comments in this thread. At this age? Very unlikely. And given your lack of experience I don't think it's realistic either (saying this to you as a fellow older virgin, I know how judgmental women can be towards male virgins). In general, most women aren't open to these things, in my experience. Most women want an LTR. But younger women would be open to the idea. Especially since you're an older man. Just don't tell them you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:55 PM

I want to believe that being skinny fat should be enough if a man is going for his looksmatch, since most people around the world are skinny fat. But since a woman's SMV is usually higher than a man's at the same levels of fatness... a man will need to be lean to stand out. I don't think men need to get super muscular to appeal to women. I think the average woman drools over a leaner/skinnier/otter mode look in men. I know that's difficult for the average man to maintain. You need 10-15% bodyfat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:38 PM
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How am I getting this attention? Is it out of nowhere or is it something that’s gradually built in up over time? Obviously the latter is 100x better because that’s a meaningful relationship. If it’s out of nowhere, it sounds like I’m being used and I don’t trust any attention from a so-called “HVM” at all. Why isn’t he with someone from within his famous people circles? Why would he single me out? I wouldn’t be able to enjoy any type of attention like that because it would make zero sense to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:27 AM
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He claims to have genuine desire for her because he wants to have sex regularly, but I would argue that the genuine desire is for sex itself and for validation, not really for her. This is entirely correct and the majority of men keep trying to deny this. It's why, when you go to a sub like AskMen and pose a question along the lines of "Men who settled for a woman...", you'll have plenty of users congratulate each other for settling. "Sure, she wasn't as pretty as women from my past but her PERS…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:06 PM
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I notice that people are telling you to work on yourself, etc. As if it’s that easy to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and just do things when you’ve been this isolated and depressed your whole life. Social isolation is becoming a widespread phenomenon for young people now too. It’s gonna be a rough time trying to fix a whole generation that has zero friends and few to no romantic prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:35 AM
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Good to see another FA woman posting here. Aside from that, I’m empathetic to men’s struggles in the dating market. Wish they’d be empathetic to women like us more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:31 AM

This is a pill sub, it is meant for the sexually inactive by design, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:19 AM

Whenever someone brings up women who are single not by choice, someone always has some anecdote about an ugly woman being sought after by men… emphasizing that she’s a 1/10 and men still line up to marry her or something. I rate myself around a 3 on average. Where’s my army of 3/10 simps? /s Really through, the average man overestimates (like way overestimates) how much attention women get these days. Especially below average women. If she’s below average according to whatever PSL scale you subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:42 AM

I don't know which female-centric sub you looked at. I agree with you in that they can be echochambers. The slightest microaggression that goes against the hivemind can get you banned. I see the same thing on AskMen subs too. Hell... look at the responses on "Question For Women" flaired threads on PPD... even though these aren't debate threads... they can be so hostile towards the OP as if it's a debate thread. Hard to find a single shred of nuance anywhere. Why are so many users in this sub lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:13 PM
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So much of the traits we're attracted to are filtered through our cultural biases. It's not a conscious choice, but you can do some self-reckoning to deeply understand why you're attracted to something. I saw a study on a different subreddit yesterday about how people tend to be attracted to those who look similar to themselves. Surely that should lead to us being able to accept our looksmatches. I think people are just bad judges about what is truly attractive to them. A lot of what we assume w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:09 PM
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Speaking as a woman with no experience, I'd be suspicious because he's hot and financially well-off, but hasn't been able to find someone yet? Surely women should be flocking to him regardless, if he's attractive. He needs to go to therapy to work on his severe shyness. That's going to hold anyone back. His mannerisms have to be turning off any women who notice him (and I'm sure there have to be many if he looks like a model). Or... maybe he just isn't going to places where the type of women wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:23 AM
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It will continue for the top 1% of women. In terms of young men approaching, at least. Older (Gen X and up) men will always approach literally whoever because that’s the advice they got growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:48 AM
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The more I get to know him, the more I see all sides of him is how he'll grow on me. This will take a considerable amount of time. He has to be my looksmatch, or maybe somewhat below it. I don't rate myself too highly so this is more than doable. I'm attracted to the vast majority of men, including average and below average ones. For example: I don't mind a chubby or skinnyfat, unathletic guy (given that I am the same). A man's looks can grow on me, but his personality can't. We better be 100% c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:28 PM
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In some areas, women do have it easier. But in other areas, it's still more difficult for women. Men are not solely responsible for the issues women face in the world today, and vice versa. There are so many different factors influencing why he feels this way and why things are this way... I'd be happy to engage in healthy discussions about these things with him. I'm glad he's willing to genuinely learn and look at other perspectives. That he wants to grow. And I will also learn and grow by lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:26 PM
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Sure, they can and they will. And women will do the same. It might be easier for women since many of us wouldn’t care for the sex part. The sex part could be a liability too. Imagine fucking your brand new Sexbot 3000™️ only for it to rip your dick off because the capitalists who control your desires decided to forgo beta testing, because they can get away with anything it. This could be someone’s cyberpunk future. If anything, I think being in a relationship with a real person will become a sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 AM
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The average man’s experiences mirror my own. I’ve never had male attention IRL. Anyway, I think women in general (in the West) are more comfortable staying single. It’s empowering now. That’s the mantra that keeps getting chanted online anyway. I personally don’t see it but being single is better than being in a shitty relationship. It’s still something you can only say from a place of privilege, if you know you can go out there and get commitment from a man whenever you truly want to. I don’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:55 AM

It's plenty exhausting for us female introverts who never get noticed by men, too. You make it sound like just having a vagina makes you attractive to men. That's the farthest thing from the truth. I know because my lived experience isn't anything like what you described. You posted this thread a week or so previously and it was removed by mods. I expressed there how I'd be lucky to get a shred of commitment from a man like the women you've described do. I have to assume these women are still qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:52 PM

I think men make their discontent or primal impulses everyone else’s problem. They externalize it more, women internalize it more. Plenty of research on this. Contrarily, women can be romantically lonely yet still nurture their friendships, still care about their community, and still work to maintain their comforts. To this point, I genuinely believe that females are better at sparking, facilitating, and maintaining interpersonal bonds (friendships or otherwise) than males are. Speaking as a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:33 PM
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I think it’s more about right time, right place. AKA luck and coincidence factor in just as much. Of course, a confident woman is more likely to be out and about and noticeable. But a beautiful yet shy woman can find men online, even on reddit. No need to share your face right off the bat either. You can chat with someone for a while and then once you’re comfortable, you can do all that. Way better than a dating app, but it can be as challenging. Anyway, it feels like every single woman on Reddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:13 AM
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Are there women at the age of 26 or more that have never been in a long term physical intimate relationship and actually look good? Religious women, women raised in certain cultures, etc. Most people here only consider the white Western perspective on these things. From what I know, there are pockets of older female virgins in China and I've read a few posts on Chinese social media from them. They seem successful otherwise. They don't seem to be interested in sex and would rather lose it in an L…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:24 PM
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It's going to depend on many factors. How was she raised? What culture was she raised within? What country does she live in, and does it provide adequate support to women? What is her socioeconomic status? What dynamic seems to be more commonly desired by women in your generation or culture? In the culture I was born into: women want providers because they want to raise families. Women expect to take on more domestic chores even while working. I work with women like this and they never complain …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:12 PM
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Afterwards they'd apologize but in the moment their feelings seem to override everything and I'll have to deal with a fight on top of work stress I've seen some insane freakouts captured on Zoom. Women freaking out at men who are trying to get through a work meeting and men doing the same to women. I have even witnessed this at my own workplace. My team and I used to work closely with a man whose wife would flip out on him sometimes for working too late and ignoring her, and we ended up hearing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:26 PM
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As long as they’re not out to exploit or abuse women, it’s none of my business. Passport sisters are rising in prominence too. I hope things equal out and we have the same levels of both. I’m sure PPBs will find novel ways to cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:10 AM
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If women are happier single, are lesbians also better off single too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:34 PM

Dang, how attractive are these women? I’d never be able to get any men to commit to me like that. It just shows you the rift between the beautiful and the ugly. No need to put it any effort, because the world will reward you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:29 PM
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Thanks for posting. This behaviour isn't restricted to one gender. Settling isn't something specific to women. I wouldn't want to be settled for by any of the guys in that thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:03 PM
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This is a terrible advice that can lead to lifelong trauma. As a virgin woman, why would I want to lose it like this? The consequences could be especially terrible for me. Physically and mentally. Obviously, you need to be reasonable about things. If you’re past a certain age, you have the wisdom to make good choices and find the right people. Whether that’s an experienced escort or even someone off the Internet who you can trust, if you can’t get into a relationship. But not to a random person …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:58 AM

There’s been discussion from the women in this sub where they will admit that they find 90% of men to be unattractive That's a very small set of women to be pulling conclusions from. When RPers/BPers claim these things, do they realize they're using a tiny data sample to represent all women everywhere? It doesn't make sense. I don't want to be grouped in with these women--if you deem a massive group of people as X, you're extremely immature or you have other problems going on. It's similar to ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:58 PM
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I'd love to stand out in the dating market based on my merit. If it matters for men, it would be nice if it made a difference for women too. It's unfair to me that only men get to benefit from this. I thought women pursue these things for themselves and not to impress men so why do they then get mad if a guy doesn't validate it We all do things for ourselves, but why can't we also want to use these things to stand out from others? I do think a certain group of men care about a woman's career and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:45 PM
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If every one of us could just accept our looksmatches, we'd all be less lonely. If you won't accept your looksmatch, then you need to work on improving your appearance and other aspects of your life. Applies to men and women. I think it's easier for ugly women since according to stats, men are attracted to a wide range of women compared to the other way around. BUT... I'm wary of the participants and sample sizes used to derive these results. They're not reliable or reproducible worldwide. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:34 PM
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Hi, fellow virgin. It's also an interesting topic to me and one I like to consume a lot of information about. It's nice to see a thread about this here. I think a lot of it has to do with social media and the Internet changing the way we interact with others. People are way less likely to take risks the way previous generations used to (lest they end up going viral or being mocked online). Plus... now there are so many more things that can distract us from wanting to be in relationships, or even…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:25 AM
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What a coincidence! This is such an interesting question for me. I’m a maladaptive daydreamer, and one of my recent daydreams has involved the management of an ancient empire with a similar premise. The women have rights, but the ruler (also female) insists on the constant production of children to keep the empire going. So she has forcibly decreed that women have to have a certain amount of children. As a reward/incentive for this duty, they are afforded a lot of rights in this society… it’s le…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:51 AM
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100%. This is my ideal. I don’t care for variety (I eat the same meal all the time anyway). If we struggle to have good sex, we would work on it together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:35 AM
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I will always be suspicious of a man who isn't my looksmatch expressing interest. Why would he choose me? It doesn't make sense. It's happened to me on a dating app before, just once. The guy was really fit and had a bunch of photos showing him rock climbing. I forgot how the conversation went but we didn't talk much at all as I was trying to end the conversation. Maybe he was a genuinely nice guy and liked me for who I am, as well as my appearance. I don't know. Good for him, for dodging a bull…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:37 AM

I've never understood this line of thinking. It has to be people living in their own little bubbles and/or getting overly carried away with the female body positivity/empowerment movement. It's not that most men are ugly, it's that most people are ugly or average at best. I don't know when this morphed into "all men are ugly". TBF, makeup covers flaws so well that I'm not surprised why people think this. Strip her makeup off and she's equivalent to her "ugly" male looksmatch. If men didn't see w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:35 PM

He's strong and steadfast in his morals, doesn't doubt himself, has high self-confidence. Lack of hypocrisy. Ability to challenge one's own views. Willingness to fight for what's right without making a big deal about it (virtue signalling). Big stick ideology. It's hard to find these traits in people anyhow, and I'm certainly lacking in them. These are impressive things to have cultivated within yourself given our current media landscape and how we're pressured into agreeing with extremes all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:19 PM

The last thing we need is a world where everyone is constantly preoccupied with looks and making their capitalist masters (beauty companies) richer. I'd love a world where men and women worldwide put in effort to be hygienic and healthy instead. Health is beauty. Just wearing sunscreen regularly, regardless of your race, can save your youth... I learned this too late in life. At least I know now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:02 PM
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I am inclined to agree. With the caveat that it's still easier for women and certain kinds of men. Body positivity has worked out really well for women. Fat women aren't completely shunned anymore (to a point). Your SMV is high if you have a pretty face. Pretty face + good makeup and styling = climb your way up the looks scale. they believe women are mostly a financial burden rather than an actual soulmate which basically means get into a relationship and now you’re thinking wait how much is thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:58 PM
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Um, the same benefits that men get? There are plenty of dangers involved with hooking up, as well as terrible consequences. I prefer sex in a stable relationship. Millions of couples worldwide are completely average and looksmatched. Your view is so narrow, go outside and touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:17 AM
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There are people in the virgin sub who are 40 and 50, maybe even older. The women that I'm aware of are living pretty peacefully and don't think about it too hard. I would say that if you're 30 with zero experience, people are going to consider you strange. Even in Middle Eastern and Asian countries, where it's normal for adults to only experience sex and romance when they're married (usually after studying, once they reach their 30s). And what age should someone just accept it will not happen i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:08 AM

Thanks for posting that study, it's an interesting one. A woman's self-worth corresponds to the type of person she goes for. If you have high self-worth, you're looking for someone highly desirable. Low self-worth, less desirable, etc. So women tend to go by leagues-based thinking in the end. But the same effect isn't seen with men. I assume this is because men spam literally every woman on the apps in an effort to get noticed. That's definitely skewing the data. I prefer to only go for men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:57 PM
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Many adults these days don't have friends. It's going to take a while before mainstream culture recognizes this. I do hope this changes. Like, I just don't have friends. The only guys my age I spend time with are my brothers and my wife's friend's husbands/boyfriends. And I can't imagine meeting with them in any scenario that doesn't involve plenty of alcohol and context like a sporting event or holiday. I don't have any friends to hang out with. At least you have acquaintances and family to han…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:36 PM
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Pregnancy is really hard on a woman's body. And women in many countries are expected to do child-rearing on top of housework and working full time due to insane rises in CoL worldwide. Single income households are becoming fairly uncommon because you need both parents earning money to survive. I think the happiness stat for single & childless women, if there is one and it's true, is favouring those women who either work professional white collar jobs or are trust fund babies, who happen to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:31 PM
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I wish it was easier to discuss this topic openly. Adult virgins used tk be relatively rare, but given where the dating market is headed, it’s certainly going to become quite common in the future. Speaking as an adult virgin myself. It’s nothing to be ashamed of, but it shouldn’t be celebrated either. At most, I can celebrate being completely STD-free in an STD-ridden world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:41 AM
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How else would you have women vet guys though? Isn't the most obvious way to go by whose social skills are the best? It sounds shallow but it's usually a good indicator. A better indicator is obviously emotional intelligence and maturity, but to convey those you need adequate social skills. A common dynamic is flocking behavior towards some extroverted narcissists (as other women approved him first), even if they don't actually enjoy being around that "center guy", they still "follow" because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:43 AM
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Less attractive women don’t get approached at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:02 PM
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There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the objective reality that people end up with people similar to themselves in attractiveness and education. That isn't an "ideology", that is a fact. If you end up with someone more attractive than yourself, that doesn't mean that leagues don't exist. Yes, that's fair. It is a fact, but people always take this for granted and try to impose their own views onto others, trying to drag others down with them, which is what I don't like to see. If you perceiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:51 PM
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If I'm introducing him to higher-quality women, then how is this sabotage? I misunderstood your previous comment, that you would react badly if you saw a friend was with an unattractive woman beneath his league--I can understand that perspective, but even so, I stick to my point that you should support your friends with their relationships. That doesn't mean unconditionally supporting them. But you don't have to suggest that they get with someone else unless they confide in you that the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:41 PM
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Why do you think that women do not tolerate other women going for men more attractive than themselves? I don’t think this is always the case, especially these days. Women can definitely be celebrated for this, but the mean comments on social media tend to rise to the top regardless of gender. Despite the strong in-group bias women have for each other (based on biology), there’s always some level of rivalry going on… women can be quite backhanded sometimes. I’ve seen women complain about other wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:17 AM
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This seems to be a Western phenomenon for the most part. You don't see this much in developed countries in the East. Because lookism is huge across Asia, including the developed parts. Women are still made to feel like their looks are everything and that they're lesser for not reaching specific beauty standards. Even if the media and culture try to get body positivity across to the people--any attempts to celebrate non-standard body types are shut down and generally shunned immensely on social m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:43 AM
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Yeah, usually the only thing that matters is how attractive she is. Whether she can mask or not doesn’t matter at that point. The only exception I can think of is some high-society type of guy wanting a trophy wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:54 AM
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My life is Scenario A, kind of, and my cope is that I’ll be in a romantic relationship one day. I’ve been friendless since childhood so this state of existence is normal for me. Scenario B sounds like an anime lol. We’re all nakama happily ever after. Sounds dreadful to me but it could be someone’s ideal (like an ace person’s).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:01 AM
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I would have never expected to see a “red pill aware” man call out women for being virgins. How fascinating. What does your flair even mean? Well, I’ll bite—I am an older female virgin (seemingly very rare demographic here and in general). I will acquiesce to your points for the most part in regards to the majority of female virgins. There are various things wrong with me but I can’t generalize all older virgin women that way. Besides, so many of them are holding out for a variety of reasons. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:52 AM

Do you have anything of substance to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:01 PM
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What do you feel is a barrier to approaching guys that you are attracted to? My own low self-esteem, no need to burden him with that. Well, that only applies if I perceive him to be out of my league. I don't think I'd have any qualms/anxieties about approaching someone I felt equal to in looks, personality or other aspects in life. It would devastate me to get rejected, even though that's a silly thing to worry about, all things considered. I'm not a high schooler. The average man is not going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:02 PM
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but in my opinion women are abusing it This is the inevitable fate of any app that "exposes" people like this. It's very easy to slander someone's character. There are 0 checks and balances in place to prevent this from occurring. This app won't last long. I'm even surprised that AWDTSG groups on Facebook are still alive? Why haven't these been hit with lawsuits? I suppose it'll happen soon enough. How come the Teaborne app was taken down? Only men are allowed to be bullied? lmao. The double sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:54 PM
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In short, I have come to the conclusion that people are overcomplicating the dynamic of hetero relationships Agree, and the reason for this is content. Influencers and creators have to churn out new stuff daily and relationships are a hot topic. Easy to talk about. Trending topics on social media change so quickly, you always have to be on top of things. I think most people are relatively straightforward and reasonable. Sometimes mental health issues get in the way of things, but even that tends…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:49 PM
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Different things matter to different people? In that situation, I'd be immediately suspicious of that celebrity. Why, of all people, would they choose me? Are they trying to use me in some way? Etc. If your partner would leave right away like that, 1) why can't you trust her not to do that, 2) would you do the same to her? If so, you deserve each other, and 3) you're telling me she wouldn't exercise a modicum of judgment or common sense before committing to someone like that? How gullible is she…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:37 PM

To be clear, do you think this is genuinely unchangeable and suggesting otherwise or wishing for a change in it is suggesting coercion and a violation of women's freedom? ...Is this another version of "I wish women forced themselves to date unattractive men out of pity"? This is so wild to me. Are there really people out there working off this presumption that women are always passive? Should men force themselves to date unattractive women out of desperation? Same vibes. Isn't the answer to this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:31 PM
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I see, thanks. I don’t think it’s impossible to find people who are like me. A lot of these people hang out in FA spaces but we’re all so far away from each other. Even if we’re isolated from others, we still want to experience connection. It’s way easier to do that with someone who understands what it’s like. Both lying flat (in terms of career and ambitions) and staying at home means it’s harder to find someone, but I’m sure that person for me exists somewhere online. Just nowhere close to me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:50 PM
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A nice milestone to experience before I die? Don’t want to die a single loveless virgin? Why does anyone want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:32 AM
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Because I always have been. I’ve always been isolated from other people. What are some things you’re looking for that might make a partner difficult to find? Very interesting question that I’ve pondered a lot. I’m still pretty stuck on what I’m after: my looksmatch who shares similar interests and the same sort of outlook on life. With similar life circumstances. Surprisingly hard to find. I’m not a high energy or ambitious person. I lowkey hate working and love the idea of quiet quitting/lying …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:02 AM
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It seems really difficult in North America. And of course, you have to take race into account. It's hardest for black, brown and short men. That's not even taking into account disabilities and health conditions. Then again, I do have to take dating complaints on reddit with a grain of salt because the majority of men complaining are very young and inexperienced. Oftentimes, they're outright picky and lying about it, or have high standards they can't really compromise on. I understand the latter.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:55 PM

Like… 30%? Maybe higher. It’s validating to be sexually desired. But not as… well, a hole. But as a whole person. All parts of your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:39 AM

I don’t think it would deter me too much. I think it’s logical. Some negative part of my brain may worry that I am being used as a placeholder as he pursues other women… but I’d shake off that feeling. It’s not likely for a man in that situation to use something like this as his excuse anyhow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:38 AM
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Sure, there are times when I felt instant physical attraction but that doesn’t mean I would pursue someone I consider out of my league. It’s an ever-shifting spectrum for me. I am able to find a wide variety of traits attractive so I don’t worry about physical appearance too much. The vast, vast majority of people are average (which is good) and by adulthood, pretty much everyone has healthy biomarkers and this is selected for in most OLD spaces anyway. As an aside, I think a man’s style and pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:24 AM
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This can happen to women as well but it’s not nearly as common if you’re a guy one girlfriend is enough we don’t need a diet girlfriend. Plenty of guys can end up with emotionally unavailable women and resort to this. I’m sure this has happened to plenty of lonely women. I can easily see myself in this position
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:13 AM
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A lot of them hook fish and throw them back. I think that’s incredibly cruel and unnecessary
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:23 AM
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Hygiene, mutual respect, responsbility and common human decency matter for hookups. All these things + commitment matter for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:15 PM

I think most dating advice is universal. Look good, be decent, be reasonable, communicate well. I can't think of anything specific to women that I'd want seek out. One piece of advice I see women mention at times is to not make the first move (let the man ask you out instead). I think it's an FDS/pink pill thing. I'd say that reddit overall (not this sub) is probably more useful for marriage and LTR advice because people openly talk about stuff like their husbands being addicted to porn, partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:11 PM

Until the government decides it is. lol. How else are they going to get fix the declining birth rate? Promise droves of people that their soulmate and perfect family is out there. One day the situation is going to get so dire with the younger gen’s that municipalities will build out apps fed by countless machine learning algorithms that manage to quantify love (or rather, your idea of love) and match you with your ideal person. It sounds like science fiction but are we really that far off from a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:27 AM
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I don’t know if this is a regular thing or specific to either gender, but this does happen even if the conversation appears to be going really well and both parties are engaged and enthusiastic. Kind of feels like lovebombing. You’re convobombing. I’m not sure why a someone would ghost like that after participating so enthusiastically in the conversation but manners are optional on dating apps. What are you gonna do. I assume he or she found someone else and was just using you as a backup option…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:15 PM
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Never experienced intimacy before so I want to before I expire Want to share my life with a partner Want someone to care for and someone to care for me It’s practical, we can lean on each other during tough times Sex is nice, and I want an emotional connection to go along with it so it’s meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:00 PM
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I’d be disappointed but as long as he’s clean (free of disease), responsible and respectful of me, I can let it slide. Beggars can’t be choosers. I think the fear of him cheating on me would constantly be at the back of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:54 PM
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I come across scientific studies here sometimes, which is nice. I've certainly seen the extent of people's cynicism here. The problem with PPD is that the same topics get recycled again and again. You feel like you've seen everything. You rarely see stuff from other perspectives (ugly women, ForeverAlone people, fat people, people with disabilities, etc.). I know this is a sub for TRP and the rest to duke it out. But I feel like that's kind of served its purpose when TRP is so mainstream now? Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:25 PM
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High libido, cum easily from PIV, general openness to new experiences (enjoys taking risks), and I'd also put high confidence in here. You have to be pretty confident in yourself and your body to be able to go out and engage in casual sex like that. They tend to choose casual partners less on looks but on whether or not the guy seems non-judgmental, respectful, and mainly looking to have a good time above all else. Huh, but most men would say the opposite. I like this perspective, it does make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:22 PM
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Would you accept a bad relationship if the sex is fantastic? Well, a lot of women want an emotional connection during sex too. Including me. So probably not. I think sex life can be improved on, so if the guy was stellar but the sex was bad, he'd be open to improving things anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:19 PM
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I’ve never benefitted from this privilege, at least directly. I am not a white woman, so yeah. I even think my life would be easier and straightforward in terms of dating if I had been born male. Being a KHHV at my age, my experience is the same as that of younger men. I also have low standards for men: I’m happy to accept men of any height, race and I even prefer chubby, overweight men. I think men can be attractive in various ways and I don’t think there’s one set standard for all men to adher…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:40 PM
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Buying sex seems arguably worse, for all you know she could be hiding that she’s trafficked. In first world countries, the probability would be low because it’s usually clear that women are doing it for themselves, if you find them online through a listing and you can interact with them directly. I read the SexWorkers sub sometimes, and there’s the occasional story about an escort being harassed by an angry wife… why take it out on the sex worker? It’s the man who decided to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:19 PM
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I don’t come across single men like that IRL. Most people are likeable though. Just not sure if they’re single or not. I’d be open to dating any man who’s remotely into the same things I am, but the average man isn’t going to admit that he’s into nerdy stuff in front of women at my age… I don’t think. At least not in the situations where I have to interact with men (at work)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:45 PM
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It doesn't work for me. Similar to the male experience in that regard. I keep trying, nevertheless. OLD should be for people like me. Nerdy, introverted, below average, shy, awkward, terminally online, homebodies, etc. Instead, now OLD is being monopolized by attractive extroverts who don't need it in the first place. Leave some for the rest of us, jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:31 PM
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Obligatory "I am an INTJ" just like everyone else on reddit and apparently the entirety of the Internet 😂 So smart, so special. Real talk, you could be any MBTI type at any point in your life. If it's a self-assessment, it's always going to be skewed towards the result you want, not the result you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:53 PM
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I'm pretty fluid in this. We're living in modern times, anyone can do anything, within reason. The only thing that comes to mind that I may not be able to do is lift something really heavy. Maybe that's something he could either help me with, or do himself. And I hope, physically defend me in the 0.01% chance of a situation happening where I need it and can't do it myself. I don't get myself into dangerous situations like that. Carry me when I'm injured. Etc. I'd like to do the same things for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:50 PM
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6 feet tall. super rich and who are successful and capable of providing for them The latter half (successful and capable of providing) is probably what the average woman looks for more. I know dating apps have amplified the height thing a lot, but it's really just the vocal minority who are complaining about men being too short. I know plenty of short guys IRL who are in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:03 PM
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If you are undesirable or so ugly that you have been rejected by every person you are interested in, you are not voluntarily "going your own way" or "focusing on yourself". This is so interesting to me as my lived reality should make me this way, but instead I call myself a ForeverAlone and mope about it on reddit. I do find women who claim to follow the 4B movement to be fairly pretentious, unless I can see direct proof of it in practice. It sounds totally empowering and feminist but you actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:49 PM
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There are so many guys I have found on reddit like this, except they tend to lack 6. If you have a good social circle, you're probably not wasting your time on reddit because you're too busy catching up with friends. is there a glaring reason why A myriad of reasons. Could be race (relative to where he lives, or substitute this with colorism), height, face, lack of confidence, low self-esteem, delusion (he thinks his looksmatch isn't good enough) or other issues in life that complicate things. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:27 PM
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Above my league (a lot could fit in here), within my league (harder to find but still exist), below my league (very, very few in here, as it should be)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:33 AM

Be into me Be into some of the same things as me Be loyal, as loyal as I am to him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:12 AM

People who are honest about their weight and fitness levels. I have no problem stating my weight on my profile and the fact that I’m sedentary. That’s not going to change. I would appreciate the same from a man. I think some guys post old gym pics to look better but it’s not clear if they still go to the gym regularly or not. Please state it very clearly so I know that you’re looking for someone as active as you People who fill out every part of the bio with something meaningful, or at least a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:06 AM
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I only see this type of rhetoric online and I wouldn’t want to hang out with people who say this stuff anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:59 AM
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Ideally, he matches me and my current life circumstances. I’m not trying to marry up or down. Just someone similar to me, but male. I think that’s completely reasonable and possible given that I’m not a 10/10 ambitious, extroverted career woman. I’m introverted, like to stay at home and spend most of my money on my hobbies. We wouldn’t have to spend money on each other as a sign of affection, though it would be nice on special occasions. I’ve tried to say as much on my dating app profiles. It se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:56 AM
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Female virgin here… I also want to know 🥺 We can’t find each other on apps. I guess Reddit will have to do. But who knows who’s lying and who isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:16 AM
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If he's into the exact same things as me? Same values, personality, life goals, etc.? Sounds like a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:52 PM
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Maybe this is going to be the default for younger people (under 30). Massive cultural shift in the way we see life milestones. I think it’s related to the fact that younger people hesitate to take risks, especially because they have a distraction in the form of net access as well as a billion economic pressures to deal with. I can see this changing once older generations (Millennials and above) start dying off. It feels like the young don’t have room to breathe anymore. Definitely is related to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:00 AM
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I've read this paper once than when it comes to long term relationships, guys are just as picky as girls. This is true. Women are gatekeepers of sex, and men are gatekeepers of relationships. but I'd argue the priority is attractiveness, parental/married status, and then social class I guess it depends on the culture... I know Asian men will care a lot more about social class, for example. Almost on par with attractiveness. Anecdote: I've watched a lot of videos regarding China's leftover women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:48 PM
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Explain ONS and hookups then. Those don’t require a date or money spent prior to sexual contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:04 PM
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I think that would be an ideal for me to be approached like this, if ever, but take the gym approach thing with a grain of salt. If we’re talking about attractive women, they probably have partners… they don’t go to these spaces expecting to be approached. It’s probably safer to find an excuse to talk to her about something related to the gym and get to know her enough to see if she’s single or not, and go from there. In your case, it seemed you didn’t even go up to her and try to get to know he…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:59 PM
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I think porn is a good distraction for men. They don’t need to go after women because their basest desires are already fulfilled by porn. I know porn addiction is real (you can get addicted to anything). I think it’s too early to tell if porn is a symptom or the cause. It’s going to take a few more generations of porn being freely available to really see that. I’m leaning towards it being a symptom because there are a billion other factors contributing to singleness in our era. Mostly the fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:47 AM
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Probably not. It really is an archaic holdover and I wonder what the compromise is. In some cultures, both names are hyphenated. That seems unnecessarily long though. I suppose I’d take my husband’s last name if it was cool or badass when compared to my own lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:54 AM
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Lack of testosterone, which really drives sexual desire. And less social conditioning to find a man in the West. For relationships or sex. I don’t have any strong sexual urge to go out and find someone to fuck. Whereas a man in my situation would have slept with an escort by now, driven by biological and societal urges. As an aside, we are about to see what a world filled with single people will be like soon enough. So the answers to this question will be explored more widely by academia soon to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:52 AM
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Women certainly dream up men like this. Check out the MyBoyfriendIsAI sub. But you will notice that there’s a heavy emphasis on his personality and actions. That has to be there in order to really sell him. So no, it can’t just be looks. The whole package is needed and this is rooted in biology anyway. Still… Given that society is evolving and women are earning more money these days, I can certainly see a handful of rich women favoring men for their physical traits only. But this will be exceedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:47 AM
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i know because i was rejected once by a woman i implied i liked her personality How is this any different from men complaining about women settling for them like this. Don’t say this to your partner. It sounds lame and like you’re trying to make them feel bad on purpose. Like the moment you find a woman who fits the bill in terms of looks you’ll dump your current partner for her because she will never measure up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:22 AM
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Below, objectively below
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:20 AM
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They don’t say it outright but their other posts strongly imply it. The vast majority do not have women going after them, though they still have standards higher than mine. I have seen more men there rating themselves as a 6 or higher. For sure, women rarely approach men. And I’m not about to start knowing how I’ll be treated by even the men in a community I find a sense of belonging in. I consider most men more attractive than me anyway. Based on my experiences men certainly don’t feel the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:07 AM
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I don’t want to be used like a personal wallet by a man, which is what most men are apt to do. Just like some women are apt to use men this way. I want someone who genuinely respects me. Problem is, how do you weed out the decent men who will return the favor in some way? And weed out the shitty men. I need strong emotional support and support with domestic + other chores from a man if I’m to be in the position of a breadwinner. The latter can be mastered but the former is way harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:03 AM
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I have. As in, being the emotional crutch because male friends are unable to help, or because he feels like he can’t rely on them for that. Yes a lot of it is behind closed doors. It’s definitely not a problem specific to men. Probably just an issue for people-pleasers like myself. And a lot of people these days suck at returning basic courtesy: not making the whole convo about them, asking questions, showing interest in the personal lives of others. It’s easy to be self-absorbed because social …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:00 AM
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I would go by attractiveness, not relationship. Attractive women, then attractive men. Mid women, then mid men. Ugly women, then ugly men. Social class is another one. I think plenty of men would line up for a hot single mom. Moreso if she’s got a good career. I don’t think single moms are hated by men as much as Reddit says they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:53 AM
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Most men assume women who are out of their league are actually in their league, though. That’s the issue. People are terrible at accurately judging their looks in relation to others… it’s something you have to keep re-evaluating at different points in your life. If you care about your looksmatch, that is. I guess you could live your life trying to get someone hotter. As a man it could work out if you have other things going for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:47 AM
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Hahaha, why am I not surprised this is the case. I even read a thread somewhere (maybe on the self sub) about a guy who was disabled yet popular with women. Despite that he was still chasing after women way out of his league and acting like an incel about it. What causes these men to be so delulu?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:42 AM
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Thank fuck those women turn those men down. As an ugly woman, I’m not interested in being your ego boost. Go pine after your looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:39 AM
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Even in the FA subs, men have standards. Like women, men claim the bar is on the floor for women and then proceed to ignore their looksmatches. Common story.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:37 AM
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Yes, it is. Don’t treat women like emotional sponges. I see a lot of men on Reddit claiming they get along with women better and prefer female friends—why? Because your male friends won’t listen? Why is that? And here I was convinced that male friendships are superior to all those catty females who plot behind each other’s backs /s Apparently men can’t even talk about their basic emotional problems with each other, only women. So much for MGTOW? I think it’s good and healthy for men to be emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:32 AM
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Lots of them don’t know how to bring a woman to orgasm. Assuming they do care and put the effort in, it just may not be enough or… they end up giving her a bacterial infection via fingering. If I think about myself, I am of the belief that my first time with a man will be terrible… he probably won’t last very long and I won’t be able to get off during the act. I’ve done a lot of thinking about this and I feel there’s a good chance it goes this way unless I secure some kind of sex god (even then,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:22 AM
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Plenty of pink-pilled dating coaches out there. Sprinkle sprinkle!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:16 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with being emotional. I appreciate that vulnerability. But have some emotional intelligence. If you find a woman who wants to listen and give you a shoulder to cry on, don’t immediately trauma dump on her. And don’t act like the sky is falling—if she genuinely cares about you, she will freak out and think it’s an emergency. It’ll keep her up at night. If it turns out you were just overexaggerating because you’re a poor communicator OR you’re prone to mood swings… no one is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:14 AM
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I like it, but it makes most men uncomfortable. Even men from more progressive societies. Not just because men are socialized to take care of the bill and lead the date, but also because the uncomfortable thought of being valued for something other than their ability to provide comes into question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:09 AM
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That men and women message other average-looking men and women at roughly the same rate was the take away for me. I care about messages because they're the most meaningful thing on a dating app. Likes are meaningless due to mass-swiping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:28 PM
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I understand why men feel this way. But how can things change if you keep your emotions bottled up all the time? If it makes sense to you, share them with your partner. If she can’t handle that, she’s a fucking fool and you should drop her. Within reason, of course. If she was having a bad day and didn’t know how to react, talk to her and understand what’s going on with her. If she’s incapable of handling your vulnerabilities at any time, then how is being with her worth it? I think the goal of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:30 AM
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Women are simply on the whole more attractive and have more sexual value than men. No, it doesn't "add up" but that's how it is. This is some stupid bullshit. No, no they’re not. I have lived this reality myself. I feel sorry for any man outside my league that has left a like on my dating profile. Though I probably shouldn’t because he’s just another cancerous mass swiper and the problem itself. We’re humans not bird species where the males peacock around for the plain-looking females. You can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:26 AM
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Settled in that sense is just choosing someone and not changing your mind about it. So you didn't have thoughts about how you could find someone better than her? That's good. the women are assumed to be using the men, taking their resources, always looking for a way out and someone better to compare them to and leave them for. I feel that way about men too, and it's hard to shake sometimes. Given that the economy really sucks where I live and things are getting more expensive every year. I guess…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:20 PM
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The problem is that all women go for the same minority of men. Based on an OKCupid study: Women sent 11 times as many messages to the most attractive men compared to the least attractive ones, and 4 times the amount to average men. For men these numbers are 28 and 5. Source: https://archive.ph/ZJymw#selection-305.0-683.306 Site-wide, two-thirds of male messages go to the best-looking third of women. So basically, guys are fighting each other 2-for-1 for the absolute best-rated females the most s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:04 PM
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So it's okay for a man to settle for a woman but not the other way around? I know men hate this when women do it to them. I just want to find a man who's like me. My looksmatch, who can still find me beautiful even though I look the way I do. I can find every man I come across attractive in some way. Obviously within reason. A 600lb man isn't attractive to me for a variety of reasons, but neither is a severely underweight man. I've just never seen a man who's honest in this regard. Then again, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:53 AM
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Thank you. And yes. I know what I need to fix but I'll be pretty old by the time I fix my most important feature. Men don't go for personality so it's a lot harder. Even if he tries to be nice by accepting me anyway, he'll probably cheat on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:27 AM
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I'm ugly and have never been in a relationship. I'm KHHV My experience has been the same as the average man's (by PPD standards)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:58 PM
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Of course, I want to make him feel good about himself. That’s my goal in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:47 PM
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I feel this way all the time and I’m a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:50 PM
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If said women come from a culture where it’s not common for them to do this, that’s one answer. If we’re talking about strength training, that’s rare, and if we’re talking about intense strength training (pushing yourself to your limits), that’s even rarer. I know the value of working out yet I choose not to do it. I’ve got the dumbbells and the exercise mats. I have a bunch of workout videos to follow. I’m just lazy. It’s hard to change when it’s something you’ve never done before. I nearly fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:20 AM
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The things I look for in a partner already partially vet them for this stuff anyway. It’s important to an extent but I expect most people are moderates. Not in the American sense of that term, as Americans interpret this as alt-right? Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:18 AM
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Modern politics is a mess, so I’m fine with that. It’s easy to get burnt out and the media doesn’t help matters by putting out clickbait constantly. We’re left exhausted, trying to figure out which news stories matter and which ones are nothingburgers. I would want my partner to share the same political views as me, ideally. If our values align, why wouldn’t our political views?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:15 AM
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If it makes sense for the situation and you feel comfortable with it, why not? Don’t overthink it and just go for it. I think men overestimate the amount of women who dislike this. It shouldn’t feel like negging or PUA. Lots of men make that mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:10 AM
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A woman can be feminine but if she’s ugly, what man will look at her? He’ll go straight for the hot but abusive woman and justify it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:06 AM
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She’s just salty and trying to annoy you. Commuting is annoying and takes years off your life if it’s stressful. And it can be so expensive too. WFH should be the norm wherever it can be. The roads would be freed up for workers who absolutely have to be on the job site, making their commutes quicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:04 AM
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If I find a man attractive, I find him attractive in all circumstances. Even if he’s submissive or more feminine. He’s attractive to me, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:49 AM
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Umm no, the opposite makes sense. BECAUSE women are so picky men need to swipe on everything and then work with what they match with later This is the exact problem that's sinking men's chances on the apps. If men tried to be a little bit pickier women wouldn't have such an disproportionate advantage on the apps. Considering that dating apps are a very popular and convenient way to meet these days, I can see that having an effect. Men complain about only "mid" and "ugly" women being into them on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:40 AM
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The whole OLD idea just needs throwing on the scrap heap. OLD isn't bad. People meet partners online all the time. The issues is how gamified and monetized these apps are. They've turned dating into a game to play when you're bored instead of what it's historically been--a way to find someone to marry. Or at least finding a committed partner. Now it's just for hookups and validation. I hope men can recognize how the apps prey on them and leave the apps in droves. It'd put women like me, who suck…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:14 PM
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No. I wish more guys were like this. How can this be considered submissive… well, never to me. This is just TLC. Anyone who thinks it’s submissive is fucked in the head
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:29 AM

No, that's just a guy settling for an ugly woman the same way men complain about women settling for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:19 PM

Putting lipstick on a pig? That won't work. I also suck at makeup and don't want to spend that kind of money. It has to all come off at some point in front of a man anyway. Being a butterface is my best option, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:18 PM

If it's a one-off thing so he could lose his virginity (he's an older adult with no sex life), sure. If it's a consistent thing for him and he's travelling places specifically to see sex workers... I'm not keen on being with a person like that, unless he's able to justify it to me in a way that makes sense. I honestly can't think of a good justification for this, unless he is physically disabled. I understand that having a physical disability limits a lot of your opportunities in life. Especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:38 PM
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Red pillers should care about this stuff, so I don't care what his preferences are or what actions he takes as long as he isn't abusing anyone. It's at least good that he understands and supports these things. If he's using his feminism as a means of getting with women, yeah, that's pretty slimy. But the women he goes after should be able to tell and make that decision for themselves if they want to be with someone like that or not. As long as he's honest about his preferences with the women he …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:04 PM
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This is why you can see unattractive women having a lot more dating success then the average man. Really? Speaking from the POV of an unattractive woman... my experience has been the same as an unattractive man's. And I'm a woman looking for her looksmatch (3/10) on dating apps. I've tried multiple times now. Can't get a date. You men underestimate what an unattractive woman can look like AND overestimate how much attention unattractive women get on apps to begin with. Your idea of unattractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:58 PM
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If he asks me about myself and empathizes with my problems. The tone he uses in our interactions. If he's capable of putting out meaningful messages and not just one word or superficial answers. He doesn't avoid tough topics and is willing to discuss things openly. Tied into empathy: his ability to see and accept other perspectives. If he's good at compromising. Does he communicate his feelings clearly, or at least makes the attempt to. If he's willing to be vulnerable with me and take any advic…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:50 PM
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Since when can you isolate a height gene like that in an embryo? In specific cases, maybe, but height is determined by many environmental factors too. I'm not against the concept of a Gattaca baby. I agree with it to a certain extent, as I want to give my kid the best start in life possible. But... I don't want to carry another woman's eggs in me. That's simply not for me, though it may be for others. I'd rather not have a kid then. Does he really cherish me if he's that concerned about my genes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:41 PM
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I think girls are socialized by society to mature earlier than boys. I think girls are just as playful and immature as boys regardless of when they go through puberty. But society can't have that. Growing up, girls were expected to be smart, organized and perfect. Boys could just be boys. Anything silly they did, they were excused for. Girls were shamed and othered for doing silly things... you know, kid stuff. Pranking people and horsing about. I remember being ashamed for getting bad grades. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:29 PM
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I disagree with this completely. You can be successful and be in a bad situation emotionally, which causes someone to feel sympathy for you. That's not the same as pity. They can sympathize and want to help you heal. This is something a lot of women fantasize about (fixing a broken man). I don't think it's realistic or helpful, but if it motivates two people to come together and on their problems, I'm all for it. Obviously this shouldn't come across as whiny or overly needy... like in the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:21 PM
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I can only speak from the perspective of a virgin woman, but a low value one. I would prefer to be with a fellow virgin man. I do agree with OP that someone who considers themselves high value would want someone equally high in value... being a virgin should not matter. If he's high value, that can be overlooked. Especially if it's due to a specific reason (saving it for marriage, religious).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:13 PM
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I'm not a red piller, and I consider myself an ugly woman (3/10). I've thought long and hard about this, and I don't see how a relationship like this will work out long-term, for me at least. If you're on the ugly end of the relationship, how do you not constantly feel judged for existing as you are? It works out for men because society accepts ugly men based on other characteristics. An ugly woman is always an ugly woman, and her ugliness will only be amplified if she's with an attractive man. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:03 PM
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I wish I was capable of providing for a man. It's definitely something I don't mind doing, though I don't want to get burnt out doing this either. Same as any man here in North America. Most need 2 incomes to pay off the mortgage (unless you're in a very LCOL area which means less job opportunities anyway). I'm not one of those women out-earning men and I'm not particularly picky about income. As long as his income and job is stable and he's capable of providing for himself, we're good. I know i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:44 PM
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Some attractive women get so many messages and matches that it could easily take them 8 hours to get through all of those and respond. Good-natured women who genuinely want to find a partner and feel bad about ghosting. She doesn’t even swipe much and gets inundated with messages regardless. Maybe she struggles with socializing IRL and she read some feel-good stories about people getting married off the apps so she wants that kind of fairytale romance for herself. In this situation, what are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:13 PM
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I'm a loser too, then... I'm a woman who can't attract men. Why do we judge people based on this? Stupid criteria. It seems to be a default instinct to just label a man who is struggling with women a loser with X number of stereotypical undesirable attributes without much leaving room for nuance or context. And we need to fight against this because it's meaningless. What about attractive, rude and violent men who still manage to attract a lot of women from all walks of life anyway? Are those men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:33 PM
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I can only try to softmaxx my way out but the Looksmaxxing GPT tells me that I won't even reach 5/10 PSL without surgery. So I will stay below average (according to PSL). But even the AI rating is off because it doesn't take stuff like teeth into account for some reason. Which means I'm closer to a 2-3/10. If AI solves scarcity issues, I think getting into a relationship will be a lot harder for women (like me). Men don't have to worry about being providers and they can use their UBI to pay for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:07 PM
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Why is that? Care to add more? I've never dated or been in a relationship. Or had sex. When I tried dating apps last, I fortunately found a few men willing to chat with me. I'm rather ugly so it's hard for me to get matches. I became a penpal to most of them... no dates. They pretty much friendzoned me. I guess it's my fault because I lead with hobby-related stuff instead of dating/real life stuff... but I'm a nerdy, dorky woman so hobbies are the crutch I lean on when it comes to this stuff. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:57 PM

I'm 31, but I'll be closing on a property soon if things go well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:25 PM
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My ideal is simple: someone who earns the same as me or has a stable financial situation, even if he's earning less. That feels like a difficult thing to have these days given economic shifts happening this past year, whose effects we have yet to truly feel. Oh, and let him be equivalent to me in looks. I'm short, nerdy and below average. He can be all of those things. I just want us to be compatible personality-wise and in other areas. Like pairs well with like. I know I'll have to compromise o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:27 PM
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What the fuck is this laundry list of questions? Why didn't you host this as a poll on an external website so we could compare the data here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:22 PM
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Sounds like that app that pairs you with people for a group dinner, and apparently it's being used by men to hit on women. lol. This is a much better solution. I tried to sign up for Breeze but it's not sending an SMS code to any of my phone numbers... so weird. I guess I won't have the chance to try this one out until they fix this, thought it probably wouldn't go anywhere for me. None of the dating apps ever have. staff will monitor for general safety This is excessive lol. Don't need that kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:17 PM
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I have no problem with it. I live with my parents. No way I’m paying rent here. Stupidly expensive. If rent were $1000 a month or less, different story. I will live with my parents until I need to and I’m fine with any guy I’m seeing doing the same. I want to own, not rent. Rent is hard to find and a landlord who won’t kick you out is even harder. LLs here are constantly kicking tenants out or raising rent because they can. Tenants have rights but if you care about your reputation, you end up ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:30 AM
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I’ve never even been on a date in my life and I’m already giving up. I can’t get a date with any men here (via apps). Where I live men ignore me. IRL and on dating apps. I am a 3/10 but surely I should be able to attract my looksmatch. I think he would rather be alone than be with his looksmatch. I don’t know what to do anymore. I can keep trying dating apps again and again. Already did a few times. Across all of the popular ones, and even some unpopular ones. Zilch. Maybe I’m just in the wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:22 AM
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Hell yeah I’d date the Arbiter from Halo 👽🦖 Give me those mandibles now! Seriously though have you seen The Shape of Water. Some women live for this stuff. I’m no scaly but I admit sometimes media pulls it off a little too well…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:16 AM
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I’d still want my looksmatch and all the same things I’m looking for now because… I’m ugly and I know my place. UBI and AI doesn’t change that BUT I guess I have more leeway to do something about my looks since I can save up and not worry about money. Downside is that guys will choose AI sexbots over me. I guess I wouldn’t mind an AI sexbot for myself in that scenario. At least I’ll get some too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:12 AM
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I said I watch like super amateur 144p stuff Same here, it’s probably the best type because it features real bodies and no editing. Also you kind of have to use your imagination to fill in the gaps because not everything is revealed so clearly to you. I’m not against my man watching any kind of porn, as long as it’s not illegal stuff and he’s not spending hours daily gooning to it. I think it’d be worse to me if he was constantly looking at and following thirst traps online. That’s true brainrot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:09 AM

I’m ugly and KHHV but even I don’t want to be settled for like that. Same as any ugly, KHHV man. It indicates to me that he’s willing to jump ship the moment he finds someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:06 AM
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Every step we take that gets us closer to AI girlfriends also gets us closer to AI boyfriends. Someone like me (forever alone, never been in a relationship, on a date or had sex) would benefit from this anyway, even though I don't care enough to explore AI chatbots right now. The chatbots know how to say the right things but once you notice the pattern in how they write, it becomes boring fast. big tech isn't comfortable yet with allowing NSFW. It's only a matter of time. Trust me. If that Neo G…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:29 PM
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What the fuck 😂 This is such a deeply immature thing to care about. I used an Android for years. I know how to root and put a custom ROM on a phone. I use an iPhone these days but for some reason, my family never sees my messages when I send them via iMessage, so I've turned it off. I only send out green bubbles. Whatsapp is better anyway since most people here use it. If he didn't use a smartphone at all, I'd be impressed. So why does using an Android phone affect perceived attractiveness so mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:21 PM
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Obviously, people shouldn't settle. But I do strongly believe that men settle more for women than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 08:21 PM
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OP is right. It's going to be a boon for women too, not just men. There's a lot of negative consequences that can come from the act of sex EVEN IF you take all the necessary precautions and you're with a guy who is respectful, clean and intelligent (emotionally and otherwise). Even with all those things, just the act of a penis going in a vagina can cause microtears in the vagina and make it susceptible to STDs. And there's the constant worry of pregnancy, but if you're both childfree, I assume …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:33 PM
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fidelity, patience, domestic labor How do you quantify these things? financial obligations are quantified and enforced when a marriage ends There's historical precedent for this. Marriages started out as a transactional union revolving around money and politics. why is only financial support something that one spouse continues to “owe” the other post-divorce regardless of infidelity, lack of emotional support, etc? In the past (and today), alimony was a way for unskilled women to survive, especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:28 PM
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Two types: 1) Whatever incels are spewing on imageboards and incel forums. Some of them espouse this idea to "redistribute" sex and that all women are obligated to sleep with men. Insane stuff but is often overreacted to. Feels a lot more real under two Trump terms and the spread of populism across the West 2) The subjugation of women in patriarchal cultures. Examples being Middle Eastern countries, South Asian countries, and everywhere else to varying degrees. These guys practice what incels dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:21 PM
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men who are conventionally attractive or even just average often grow up with a more balanced and positive experience and are therefore the most likely to be levelheaded and socially adjusted people. This is the truth. Not just men, but women too. As I was saying in another thread, ugly guys can be mean because they're projecting their insecurities on to you. An ugly but self-aware man would not do these things. But if the ugly man in question has been bullied and shamed for his looks IRL (and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:01 PM
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Could be that she's overly sensitive and/or has some neuroses causing her to be this way. Sex is something people tend to take so seriously (me included). Even small blunders or things that didn't go as smoothly can give you the "ick" to the point where you overanalyze it and interpret it extremely negatively months later. I don't mean to downplay stuff like rape or sexual assault. For example, a man trying to choke you in the act non-consensually counts as sexual assault. 100%. But in a scenari…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:57 PM
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AFAIK, attractive people tend to be kinder and more compassionate because the world has treated them kindly, so it's natural to them. Whereas ugly people are meaner because that's what they've always known. The only way to break this cycle is to be more accepting of a variety of looks. Honestly though, many people with facial deformities and the like are quite kind and gentle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:52 PM
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A benefit women have that I don't think gets talked a lot about here on this subreddit is their ability to find a partner pretty much anywhere in the world. You mean like white people do? As an ethnic woman, this doesn't apply to me. It doesn't seem to change their dating prospects. Laughably incorrect. While the inverse couldn't be the same for men. Do... you... know what passport bros are? Geomaxxing? lmao. 😂 I think a lot of men stay in certain jobs and don't lead alternative lifestyles becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:48 PM
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Course correct... by taking women's reproductive rights away? How does that help Western men or Western society? Crime rates go down when abortions become legal and safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:45 PM
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He may have had a history of dating conventionally attractive girls and baddies but with you, he felt more of a mental attraction than a physical one. I would immediately break up as soon as possible, because that's a surefire sign he's going to cheat. He may have made more of an effort with past girls but with you, he more or less does the bare minimum and only ever goes above and beyond during a special occasion. He may not fulfil all your needs but he provides just about enough for you to sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:43 PM
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An average 30 year old man with a car and a apartment who has a lowish to mid level white collar job, who is not considered obviously attractive or possessing any exciting or dangerous qualities is simply never ever ever going to be first choice for anyone. This is wild of you to assume. I guess you only have a very specific woman in mind when you're picturing the type of woman who sees a normal adult man this way? A match every other day or so. They're not attractive themselves but if you kinda…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:40 PM
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This is wrong in my case. And a lot of women probably feel this subconsciously but don't voice it. They have no concept of men out of their league. I 100% do. A man who has sex with them, is to them, a man in her league. No. Handsome men with high libidos are willing to sleep with ugly women just to get some. He doesn't have to look at her face or body, he can just concentrate on the sensation. This has profound consequences in our modern sexually liberated western society where men consistently…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:31 PM
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White women, you only provided images of white woman… plenty of ethnic men have a fetish for white women regardless of how they look. Incels call it “JBW”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:53 AM
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Obligatory: attractive female sexuality. None of you men want to think about an ugly woman with a butterface as a woman anyway. When you hear or see "female sexuality" the first thing that comes to mind is a sultry Instagram model. You guys need to frame these arguments around attractive women more. Otherwise the arguments lose all meaning and can be defeated by a simple: "well, this only applies to attractive, or even halfway attractive women, right?" At the same time, this power comes with rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:28 PM
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I keep seeing so many women talk about their "standards" being super low and still no man is able to meet them. The "standards" which they mention are always stuff like: Nice, washes himself and brushes his teeth, is able to provide for himself, honest and independant. You would be surprised at how few men bathe regularly (you need to bathe every day unless your doctor tells you not to) or brush their teeth and god forbid, floss. I don't have the best teeth myself but I put effort into maintaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:18 PM
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For me, the legal consequences of divorce are scary enough. I would hesitate to get into a common law marriage too. At the risk of sounding like a heartless asshole, it's extremely one-sided for the partner who makes more, and a lot of women in big cities are doing quite well for themselves. I don't think it's as uncommon as people think for women to pay alimony to their spouse, and I'm sure it's going to become more common now that women are earning more. It wouldn't be an issue if you both wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:07 AM
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I'm sorry you've been hurt by a woman who reacted negatively to your vulnerability. But not all women are cruel like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:39 PM
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I'm single because I'm ugly. If I can fix this one thing I could easily move on, but as we know, that's easier said than done. I'm taking a few steps to become attractive right now but the main issue is going unresolved for now (dental issues). What is causing your feelings of incompetence? Your low self-esteem? Do you think yourself as average or below average in terms of looks, and are you in a financially stable position right now? In my opinion family is your greatest matchmaker I disagree w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:37 PM
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I’ve never even considered this as it seems like a waste of time, but I may have to resort to this at some point. I already have low standards for men’s looks so they can’t go lower. I would still maintain that he has to be into the same things as me, otherwise we have nothing to talk about. Unless “fling” in this context refers to FWB. Then nothing matters other than hygiene and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:07 PM
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It’s a pill debate sub that I believe was created for red pullers to clash it out with blue pillers. A lot of people here live in their own weird little bubbles apart from the rest of the world. Sometimes it’s easy to forget that a lot of the guys making posts here are red pillers or incel-adjacent. I forget sometimes too. But once you get it, it’s easy to laugh at them for their dumb takes. They’d be massacred for their takes anywhere outside this sub, so I feel bad for them. Remember that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:54 PM
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Women like men who are emotionally available and are capable of giving support when she needs it too. It’s a mutual exchange. If you can’t cry in front of her, what is your relationship? What’s the point of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:46 PM

I’m fine with everything except 1 and 6. 1, because I lack self-confidence myself and find it hard to approach. I think I could do it with a bit of coaxing. 2, because being the sole breadwinner is stressful, regardless of gender. Both should be contributing to the household monetarily and in terms of chores and upkeep. I’m down for a femboy twink husband but how did we jump to domestic abuse and rape? What the fuck? OP, why insert your weird kinks into this post? How are women in the U.S. empow…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:43 PM
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Men and women alike should stop pedestalizing their hot counterparts and stop ignoring their average or below average counterparts. AKA their looksmatches. But when you try to point this out to people, they start complaining that they can’t choose who they’re attracted to. For women it’s at least easier since we’re not completely hardwired to prefer hot men but reliable men. It’s just easier for us to sleep with all kinds of men because men will sleep with anything (related issue for men to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:39 PM
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That's my ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:42 AM
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This is my first time seeing someone call a 45-year-old single mom a femcel. In that case, there are a lot more femcels than incels, huh. First we need to decide on what the definition of a femcel is. Is a femcel the exact female equivalent of an incel? Or is she distinct? 1) Traditional femcel: she's the incel's direct counterpart. Lacks social skills, bad with men, bad at romance/sex/flirting, extremely nerdy and online, joins femcel spaces to shit on men and calls them all "moids" or "scrotes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:39 AM
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I don't think it's as simple as either of those things. Plenty of men in the Silicon Valley are in the top tax bracket but struggle to find women. Plenty of skinny women who struggle to find men. but if you are stage III morbidly obese, have a terrible personality or ugly, no man is going to give you a chance. If you want to attract the best/highest quality man you can, you should be in the gym almost every day training hard and focused on your nutrition. Coming from a woman--yeah, I understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:47 AM
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I like porn made by amateur creators. Stuff with darker or more ambient lighting and shot in a bedroom. People with have average bodies having sex. Sometimes the classier stuff shot in cinematic 24fps. I don't pay attention to penis size, I care more about the atmosphere and the passion. Do you also prefer seeing big dicks No, but the only porn that seems to do well is porn with big dicks, unfortunately. People cry for representation in everything except porn and sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:21 AM
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People are too afraid of acknowledging the importance of looks because they don’t have coherent worldviews That used to be me. Though I can acknowledge that I'm ugly but I find it very hard to say the same about others. I think it's because my standards are relatively low compared to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:45 PM
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For the longest time, I thought my looks were fine... only woke up to the fact that this isn't true late in life. When you avoid looking at yourself a lot due to low self-esteem, and go long periods without doing this, it's easy to fall into a false perceptions of your own attractiveness. Media aimed at women emphasizes the idea that you're beautiful, even if society tells you that you aren't. That's true, to an extent. But some things are just universal, like symmetry, straight teeth, being wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:41 PM
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Your closest female friend thinks you're less of a man because you don't own a car despite living in a big city? Is she really your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:47 PM

I’ve never seen a truly unattractive woman on a date with an attractive man. But my standards for what counts as attractive are low anyway. Maybe the people in your life have way higher standards for attractiveness than you. It happens, especially now. Anyway, as someone who is ugly, I wouldn’t have the confidence to be with someone out of my league. I’d be worrying constantly about not being good enough and getting cheated on. I can only be with someone firmly within my league. You’re a good du…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:26 AM
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That would assume that women think getting laid is important. A lot of women place more importance on relationships over hookups. And I agree with this view myself. So naturally, women aren't going to care that men can't get laid. Why not just masturbate instead? Buy a toy and relieve yourself that way? We're all horny and thirsty to some degree, but even a depressed and frustrated KHHV like me recognizes that getting laid isn't that important, all things considered? Like even an above average l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:13 AM
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There also has to be some degree of cultural enforcement for people to care about marriage. I don't really see that outside of religious groups (I'm referring to white Western Europeans in particular). Even in East Asia, despite the super low birth rates, there's still this idea that you need to get married and have kids or your life is not complete. This is something that's permeated throughout Asia. So it's kind of funny to contrast that with other countries that are as developed with better (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:51 PM
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I’ve seen tons of these kinds of challenges on YouTube and a lot of them are fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:21 AM
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yet male-dominated sectors like game development seem less vulnerable to automation compared to online art That's a little strange to me. Why would game development be excluded from this? Especially when movies are getting scripts written by AI (as well as VFX and video) and AI is putting code monkeys out of work? What makes video games so special that they're somehow less vulnerable? Hell, AI can even produce music now. I'm sure in a couple of years it'll be able to spit out a basic 3D game. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:00 PM
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I'm a woman and I've gotten the same treatment from men on dating apps. You're describing the friendzone. It helps to be attractive instead of unattractive (goes for me and you). Only ugly people get friendzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:41 PM
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Only good looking women get those.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:45 PM
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Attractive women are basically mini celebrities. Everyone else is ignored. So a girl the day she reaches women status is hit on everywhere in her social life I'm lucky if I get 1 like from a mass swiper on Hinge once a week
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:32 PM
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I could even look at a random woman from a distance and imagine having sex with her That's more an issue with you and your mentality than the women and their clothes (or lack thereof) tbh. Also a hallmark of puritanical values. If a lot of us had grown up seeing unsexualized naked bodies of all shapes and sizes we wouldn't be having these thoughts so much. To some extent, yes, they may be sexualizing themselves. I've seen women in public with what I assume to be faux nipple bras under their shir…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:24 PM
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He genuinely respects women and is always kind (high emotional intelligence), but not a pushover. AKA he's genuine. If he's genuine, it means he's constantly working on himself, in big or little ways. I wouldn't worry about the other stuff you listed because it'd all be there in the end. I have seen and interacted with men on reddit in FA and adjacent subs who I believe are HVM, but they can't recognize these qualities in themselves. I'm not the best with words so I'm not good at communicating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:05 PM
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I don't believe your made up anecdotes. Yes, leagues may exist in your mind, but only for men No they don't. I can't get a date with a man who has the same interests as me from dating apps and I don't discriminate based on height. I'm now giving up on approaching men entirely. Before you ask, yes, I did try to approach men on dating apps but they never responded to my messages. When I was sending messages I did not consider league or attractiveness at the time, only mutual interests. I literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:56 PM
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It's perfectly fine and normal. men who aren't necessarily highly educated but have a trade and maybe also a business of their own centred on this trade. An electrician for example Trade school is difficult and requires a lot of knowledge. On top of being hazardous. I respect people who work in the trades, so I don't see tradespeople as "below" me. An electrician for example. The 'family man, who knows how to fix things around the house' as he described them. AI will eventually replace a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:20 PM
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I know in Korea, there was a guy who beat up a woman (caught on camera) and that video went viral online because female netizens found him good-looking. I'll never understand this phenomenon. they would literally chase a tall, hot murderer over an average good stable loyal man, etc. Why are you lumping all women in this camp? Only the most mentally unstable ones, maybe. Before someone answers with "Luigi", he was not a misogynist and people like and respect him for his moral stances on top of hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:15 PM
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Speaking from my perspective (woman looking for her looksmatch): a guy with the same flaws as me (fat, crowded or crooked teeth, wears glasses, suffering from alopecia, hairy, etc). If you come at it from this perspective, it makes figuring it out way easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:27 PM
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I’m single because I can’t get even one, let alone a rich one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:46 AM
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I’ve always assumed it would involve a level of safety around him on top of feeling attracted to him. For me, I’d also feel more compelled to do it if I found him hygienic and responsible. He wouldn’t ditch me afterwards and would prefer to snuggle in bed. Also if he’s such a good and sweet guy that you can’t wait to see that other side of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:59 AM
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Yeah, we FAWs are either too ugly even for our looksmatches or "desperate" FA men, and/or we have mental health struggles that keep us this way. Or both!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:57 PM
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That's why I post here and I wish my fellow FAWs would post here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:55 PM
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Not me and I agree with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:54 PM
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On the dating subs, women are encouraged to approach men. Good to know that it's not a worthy endeavour after all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:46 PM
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This entire argument can be summed up as "dicks are icky, pussies are good 🥴"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:45 PM
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Probably not a good time for a cold approach, but if the situation makes sense for you and you have the confidence for it, go for it. I think attractive women are used to cold approaches (from PUAs) and are likely to reject instantly, unless you're attractive enough for her As for me, I'm ugly so I'd assume the man was trying to scam me somehow, so I'd also reject
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:37 PM

The man on the right looks uncanny. The man on the left looks human and approachable. His frame looks way bigger, and a lot of women like body hair
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:33 PM
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Looks matter (to men looking for relationships) Men are not as desperate as they claim they are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:31 PM
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Woman have support networks outside of relationships. I'd also argue that some societies are more willing to help women out than men. Hence a lack of male shelters, and so on. There's also popular movements on and offline telling women that they can stay content being single. While both men and women mock the MGTOW movement. At times, the female singlehood celebration shtick does feel like WGTOW in that proponents have to put men down to feel satisfied about themselves. but the perception I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:29 PM

No, because I don't automatically associate virgin men with incels. If you're single and you run into a man who is 25+ and has never dated and never had sex, would you be concerned that he's an incel who secretly harbors a lot of hatred towards women? No, because I am a woman who is in the same situation. I don't hate men and I do not associate with femcels. Even if he complains about women online, that's fine. That doesn't automatically make someone an incel. It means they're frustrated about l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:21 AM
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Words like "ploughed", "ran through", "drilled", "railed", "pounded", etc. These words are all being applied to women by misogynist men. These are misogynistic terms, not misandric ones. And this is something perpetrated by all genders, including men. Too many men proclaim this idea of male sexuality being disgusting. Do disgusting men exist? 100% But that is because THEY are dusting, not because MEN are disgusting. You can't interpret these terms as solely misandric without also accepting that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:22 PM
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Fair. Didn't realize
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:53 AM
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Maybe it's a trad relationship. Or, in certain cultures, it's just acceptable for women to do more on top of working. Everyone expects it. I asked my coworkers this many times and they say they're fine with it. I really don't get it lol. These women are expected to be tradwives on top of working full-time... they put up with it because they've been brainwashed into it from an early age. A lot of them cook from scratch and they have to do it before work starts. I hope their husbands at least help…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:49 AM
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I’m an ugly woman and I’m not scared or disgusted by unconventionally attractive men approaching me lol. I’m self-aware enough to understand where I fall in the attractiveness scale You’re an FA, you should know what it’s like for some of us FAW
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:48 AM
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Only if they have high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:51 PM
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Mildly. I don’t really see a problem with it but it’s a fine line to tread. You could easily make the women there feel uncomfortable. If you get close to a woman there and it’s clear to you that she’s interested, then go for it. Otherwise, don’t go in with any expectations and your sanity will be intact I have thought about meeting men this way myself, but I’ve centered my dating app profiles around hobbies to see if I can find someone that way. A lot of guys on the apps aren’t as nerdy as I hop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:51 AM

I hear lots of men who complain about no dates, late virginity, they still hope for something and adamantly insist they need love. This makes little sense to me. Because they have high standards for attractiveness. Some thing they complain about women for having. Go to /r/virgin, /r/foreveralone, etc. Start a thread about being a virgin man who has standards. The majority of the comment section will agree with you and will say something to the effect of not wanting an unattractive partner. I und…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:05 PM

They try to argue with women, persuade them to lower the bar While refusing to lower their own standards. What a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:40 PM
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but single people are struggling massively to get what their parents had, and there's a sense of entitlement because it's so so hard to secure what came easy to most a meagre ten to fifteen years ago Agree. I doubt a lot of Millennial or Gen X people’s parents would be together if they were living in this era. I also have to assume this is true because why would there be so many ENM/poly couples on the apps? And they’re even bold enough to not use filters (some dating apps won’t add a filter for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:26 PM
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If those autistic women subs are anything to go by, I don’t think many autistic women are struggling to find partners. Only the ugly ones are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:10 AM
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Me neither, so I guess I'm also universally ugly. I've made my peace with it, so should you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:41 AM

They lack self-awareness (women too). Most of the time their porn addiction is out of control. If it's not looking at porn directly, it's following OF models on Instagram and thirsting over them. Refusal to take responsibility for domestic stuff. On the opposite side, you could argue that women don't take enough responsibility for traditionally masculine chores. Confusing hygiene standards. He'll shave his taint but he won't wash his hands after using the bathroom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:37 AM

I don't get it myself. I suppose it doesn't matter if all you want is a hookup One of the things I'd want in a long-term relationship is for my partner and I to partake in the same hobbies and interests as couple's events. The list can go on… For example, for me even just a girls taste in music not matching mine or her at least being open to listening to what I want is a huge hugeee turn off Opposites do not attract... that is the case for reality I mean, women are probably even pickier about me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:32 AM

It will make young people overall more attractive. Young women especially, yes. Men will compete pretty badly for the scarcity of beautiful and youthful women to the point that younger women will become extremely picky towards men... Some would argue that this is already the case
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:29 AM
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I don't think your issues stem from being married as much as they stem from being married with kids. If you're in a DINK relationship, life is way less stressful. I told them tales in English to lull them and also hoping they'll grow bilingual This sounds like you're an expat in a relationship with a local woman. And it also sounds like your wife isn't communicating her issues to you clearly. Why didn't therapy work out for you two? Family and relationships are not necessary for happiness. Somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:26 AM
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Why should anyone of any gender identity put up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:20 AM
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To give myself the best chance of attracting a successful and conventionally attractive woman: I'd work hard on getting my shit together first. Financially and in terms of my career prospects. Find something I can do and try to work my way up. It could be blue collar or white collar. Even if I don't end up with someone, at least I can support myself and have a cushion to fall on Work on becoming an independent adult (moving out, knowing basic life skills, financial savvy, etc.) Be active and imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:13 AM
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Not always. But I don't think hypergamy is as universal as men think it is. It works well on women who are already impoverished or come from those kinds of backgrounds. Additionally, there seems to be a common belief that a woman's looks are directly tied to a man's wallet ,like the more attractive a woman is, the more a man needs to have money to be deemed worthy of her See above. If a woman has her own money, she can choose freely, or maybe money doesn't matter to her (if she was raised in a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:02 AM
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I'm an older female virgin myself and I'd love to be with a virgin guy. Or at least have my first time with him (ideally in a relationship). As long as he's hygienic, responsible and not abusive (basic standards) It's rare to find an older male virgin who isn't religious though. IRL at least
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:48 AM
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Listen... some of us are just socially awkward. Not an excuse, I know. Definitely not an excuse when people are doing the same thing all at once. No one takes dating via apps seriously. If we manage to overcome that hurdle as a collective, then things will get way better for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:46 AM
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I’ve spent a decent amount of time looking at how women act and feel in various relationships, and it’s crazy how clear this pattern becomes. One man might bring out the sweet, nurturing side, the one who wants to be loved and cherished, the “good girl” version of herself. Then, another man might unlock a completely different side, one that’s raw, untamed, maybe even darker. The same woman, two totally different sides. This is applicable to anyone, not only women. What a laugh. I'm sure a man's …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:43 AM
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And are you telling me you didn't notice the women in your life constantly choosing the athletic guys or the bad boys? Because they've been socially conditioned to like men like this from popular media for decades now? The media does play a huge part. This is undeniable. Women like strong handsome men who aren't shy shut in nerds. Plenty of women like shy nerds? Just because you don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist. Are you telling me the guys in media and fiction who get the women aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:40 AM

I feel like you're really minimizing what loneliness and sexlessness are like. Have you experienced these things yourself? If so, what lead you to this line of thought? Is it a cope for you? If you've never experienced these two things to any degree, then your advice is only going to fall on deaf ears. Love and sex is entirely free will. Free will can be and is manipulated all the time by bad people for their own causes. Think every pill ideology out there. TRP = trying to extract resources from…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:35 AM
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Just want to add that women can have porn addictions too. Plenty of young girls end up coming across porn at younger and younger ages these days. That can fuck you up a lot. I'm not talking about stupid TikTok smut shit but actual hardcore porn and those erotica archives that feature stories with really disgusting themes I've been masterbating before I even hit puberty so idk theres the proof, but I still just don't understand men's mindset when it comes to women sexuality we are human beings as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:25 AM
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I don't think this is an indication of attractiveness. Plenty of hot women are too "intimidating" for men to hit on...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:55 AM
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What would you expect from his living arrangement? Would you accept if he still lived with his parents, or his ex for example? Is it an absolute must for him to have his own place or are you flexible? If you still live with your parents, it's hypocritical to want a partner who doesn't. Then again, sometimes it works out for people and they manage to nab someone way better than them with black magic fuckery--I mean, charisma What do you expect of his transportation? Is it fine if he can't drive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:08 AM
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Only if he's poor
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:00 AM
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Your standards for men are higher than mine lol But these are totally reasonable standards for the average woman. Though below average women may not be able to get men with all of these qualities unless they have a lot to offer themselves A man being universally ugly, neurodivergent, shy, not talkative, introverted, or not having the greatest social skills should not be a death sentence for their romantic life. Agreed. Lots of ND women out there who like ND men. I mean real NDs, not people who l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:57 AM
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If you don't have a good job, you shouldn't expect someone who does I'm sure there are women out there willing to be with an attractive but jobless guy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:55 AM

That would be like me judging all men based on what I see in the MRA sub comment sections lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:17 PM

No, but they do hate men who subscribe to red pill ideology for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:17 PM

Why are men here obsessed with the idea that women hate them, even when there is an entire industry known as the manosphere that grifts off this very idea for profit? You all are being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:08 PM
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But it will never work out societally. No one will take you two as a couple seriously. Unless you’re an ugly man with an attractive woman. Also it can cause serious self-esteem issues for the average person. You’ll feel like you’re really unworthy of someone who is that attractive. I guess it all comes down to how confident you are as well as how strong your connection is with him. I do feel like he’ll easily cheat on you because he can, unless you’ve completely won his heart and dick over someh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:23 AM
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The consensus on penis size for women is that there isn't one All the research uses sample sizes that can't be extended to all women Average is between 5-6 worldwide Average is good. This is perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:09 PM
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This could be an option for me as I get older. Shacking up with a fellow lonely older lady doesn't sound like such a bad deal. I could end up doing this if I exhaust all my other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:07 PM
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Men have zero options, when we say we have zero options we literally mean ZERO. Nothing. Nada. I've read enough stories from "forever alone" men who claim this and then turn around and say that their only options are unattractive women, hence their FA status. Same goes for men posting in /r/ugly, who don't want to be with their fellow ugly women. A lot of these men have friends too, so it's not like they're wanting for attention. I'm totally friendless IRL, so I don't even have that. Who knew th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:03 PM
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OP is 100% correct. But I do think that it's possible for a small percentage of us to be able to look past that and genuinely want to be with an ugly person. Usually more women than men. Ugly women are used for sex, because men don't need to see your face to use your hole. There's no comfort in that. Ugly men are more likely to get into relationships than us. Higher quality relationships with either their looksmatches, or if they're charisma gods, 10/10 women. On the FA subs, I see stories from …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:52 PM
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I actively seek out my looksmatch and men below that. It's a shame a lot of the men who are my looksmatch aren't into the same things I'm into. They smoke, they drink and they want kids despite having no way of supporting them. The few looksmatches who do match me in terms of my values have low education, low income and suck at holding a conversation through text. I can deal with the low education & income part but the lack of conversational skills part irks me. This must be what men feel like w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:51 PM
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I think this would benefit women as much as men. As for why OP uses the term ‘post-scarcity’ in relation to sex, if he considers sex work valid labor then why not. I ultimately think it wouldn’t be a bad idea, even though I don’t see how AI sexbots can replace real human connection. Surely, one day they’ll come damn close. At most, it will remove anyone who is satisfied with AI chatbots alone from the pool. The type of people that most of you probably don’t want anything to do with, so isn’t tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:59 AM
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I agree. Men should stop chasing women so much. I'm sick of mass swipers on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:24 PM
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Even if you're in a trad relationship, that doesn't mean you can't brush up on your skills in your spare time via online courses. There are tons of them. You could even do a online degree from a good college or university. The bigger issue is losing money or your home upon divorce, but in developed countries, a lot of divorce laws favour the woman and/or the spouse with less assets. Plenty of trad women are making money online by being influencers anyway. Some of them probably make more than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:37 PM
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I'm happy to approach men. But so many of them don't even put the effort into creating proper bios. I don't care if you only have one pic in your profile... just write a proper bio and mention your hobbies and interests so I know we have something to talk about. How can I approach you when you have nothing but some stupid quip as your entire bio. Use the prompts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:52 PM
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I've never seen this in real life. It only happens in media aimed at woman. The reverse is far more common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:29 PM
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Men will be friends with unattractive women. They usually do not befriend attractive women with the intention of platonic friendship (unless the man is gay).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:23 AM

As one commenter in the original thread put it, it's pure self-flagellation. We all do it to some extent. I do it. I'm sure there's an ugly guy out there for me, as an ugly woman. It feels good to vent out my issues about men wanting attractive women only here on reddit. I don't go out of my way to shame men for wanting conventionally unattractive women, though. That's the difference. What really bothers me is the way some men twist this into an obsessive need to hear that average-sized guys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:20 PM

You should have specified that you only care about the preferences of the women that you are attracted to in your title then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:26 PM
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I've never screamed before, only yelled. I've shrieked at my brother and dad when they angered me (when I was younger). But a full on guttural scream? Never. I've always thought about why I'm not a screamer (lol) and the only answer I can come up with is that I was never conditioned into this. If something crazy goes down in front of me, my first reaction is to yell "oh shit", "holy fuck" or "Jesus Christ" in a really loud voice. And if I need to, get my ass in action. The only time I'd scream i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:24 PM
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The first study used a sample of women from a college campus. The second study uses a sample of Czech women. The third study was an online survey. Those are fairly inaccurate. All of these studies are based on a small portion of Western women. You cannot extrapolate anything meaningful about women's preferences from these studies. PornHub search results are biased towards the type of women that go out and search for pornography. Again, nothing meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:58 PM

This is common in East and Southeast Asia. No surprise there, considering how widespread prostitution and similar services targeted at men are. While some married women there are okay with their partners using sexual services like this, if they find out that their husbands are engaging in sex with prostitutes, they will file for divorce as it frowned upon and only tolerated if no one finds out. Others are genuinely hurt that their man would cheat on them, as would any normal, sane individual. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:36 AM
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Why not just have a single-sex school system then. Why bother with co-ed schools? You can pay your teachers based on gender without having to worry about backlash that way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:51 PM
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On the fandom side of things, the number of women writing dub-con/non-con content on AO3 is so damn high. "Fifty Shades" started out as a Twilight fanfic (unsurprisingly).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:10 PM

But now women want guys to "check all these boxes" before they even go out on a date. This does not give men a fair shot. There are some guys who appear good on paper and suck in real life, and vice versa. This does not allow any opportunity for a couple to kindle a flame, so to speak. So you go into a date with her having entirely way too high of expectations that will kill any chance of a 2nd date because you will be a nervous wreck making sure all those boxes remain checked. I agree with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:15 AM
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When you think a post is starting to make sense and then they hit you with some nonsense halfway through
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:08 AM
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You think that women don't know their own bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:30 PM
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I agree with you. I think this is a very common sex fantasy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:16 AM
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Outside of smut novels and the rare movie, you almost never see media like this aimed at women. There's a lot of moral panic over it in Western media discourse. Which is fair. Whereas in Japan, you do see more of this stuff aimed at women in the form of manga, visual novels and light novels with darker themes. In the form of love interests who are obsessed with you and lock you away from the world (like a far worse version of Edward Cullen). The common pattern being that, in non-con media aimed …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:10 AM
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Yes. I used to read a lot of fanfic (which is almost always written by women) and I ended up reading some non-con stuff on AO3. Amazing prose, but the scenes depicted in one fanfic I read made me die inside. There's a reason why there's a schism in many fandoms when it comes to pro shippers vs. anti shippers. Pro shipping has its very own subreddit too. I literally just went to the sub and what did I see? Someone talking about how they ship Ellie and Joel from TLOU. I don't have too strong an op…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:50 PM
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How did this game get past censors with a 12+ rating? My question today is if you agree with this notion? Should the exploration of rape fantasies be tolerated in video games? This one's interesting to me, because I feel like it's tolerated in erotica & smutty novels aimed at women, but obviously under different names and wording. Then again, it's written in a way that appeals to women and is usually by women. Rape fantasies are also dubbed "CNC" or consensual non-consent, or just as "non-con". …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:50 PM
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I mean I certainly do not mind being used for a free meal out. What the hell...? You should. Don't let your relationships become transactions. You're not a walking ATM. You should have your friends introduce you to like-minded women, if that's possible. I see that you're autistic. It's hard for ND men out there, but don't give up. At the same time, don't let women take advantage of you. I wonder if the issue is with your location. In some places, men outnumber women so it's easier for women to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:05 PM
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It could be this but it could also be the illusion of choice we're all suffering from as a result of social media. Many today are simply not willing to accept the choices they have locally, and aspire for the hotties they see online. College was so easy for me to land dates because there was the social commonality of us being in college, and I would join groups or just cold approach women on campus, get into friend groups, meet women in class, make friends that hosted events. I don't disagree, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:36 PM
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It's worth noting that, in Chinese culture, men are expected to provide a house and a car as a dowry (bride price). I think some families expect cash on top of that. This is widespread across China except for the big urban cities. A lot of women in China get married because they want kids. The goal of the marriage is children and so is the birth rate. In East Asia, declining birth rates are caused by declining marriage rates. There's a huge emphasis on materialism here, maybe stemming from the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:16 PM
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Plenty of men on reddit also avoid talking openly about their physical preferences. Like nipple size. If you create a thread about men's preferred breast nipple size as a woman on the AskMen-type subs, you'll see a bunch of men stating they don't care and are happy with anything. Which I doubt. Porn does a lot to influence how men perceive women's bodies sexually, and I'm sure most men prefer the types of nipples they see in mainstream porn. Or at least something "normal" and not super huge or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:01 PM
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That is a lot for a first date... I feel like this is an open invitation for the type of women that use men for free meals and gifts. Don't do this to yourself. Are you going for really attractive women? Or nerdier types? I think nerdy women would be happy with a simple date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:37 PM
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I agree but also disagree. Makeup won't hide obvious flaws on your face. Usually women who wear makeup are still attractive without it. It's the reason why I don't bother with makeup, because it'd look like I'm trying to hide behind it. It does skew the dating market, because it's an accessible way for any woman to enhance her beauty. Men just don't have that. What men do have is the ability to not rely on their looks but their status. If you really wanted to, I guess you could use AI to edit yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:16 PM
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More like defeated. I'd start thinking about giving up pretty quickly. Does it make you fly into a jealous rage? Only a little. I mean, it's normal to be jealous. But the rage part isn't, unless you're extremely bitter. Rage at myself for not being good enough? For sure. Rage at her? lol. I'd be playing Jolene in my head all day long. Why waste energy hating on other people when you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:06 PM
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I don't know why this is such a big deal for women either. Especially career women. I get that people don't want to be used for their money (men or women). When I was on FB Dating, one guy asked me about what anime I liked to watch, and then immediately followed up with a question asking what I did for work and what my finances looked like. I was like... WTF. I refuse to mention my employment or any work-related stuff on my dating profiles. I also don't really look at this stuff on men's profile…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:50 PM
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I would, but I wonder if he'd be okay with an open relationship in that case. I consider myself monogamous, but I sex to be a part of my relationship. I guess this is my way of adapting. lol. Even if he's not, I guess I'd be okay with it and wouldn't push it. I'm not a cheater either. A lifelong companion is a good deal, with or without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:43 PM
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I'm already doing it for free as a KHHV FA woman. lol. I totally would. That's my retirement and real estate needs taken care of. IMO, that does count as selfish... it's all for myself, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:41 PM
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Do women care less than men assume? Yes. Though some women are convinced that they'll only orgasm with PIV and big dicks. Which isn't always true. Not without foreplay, which too many men neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:37 PM
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Men’s hierarchies are much more looks based than women’s, though personality might be a close second. Women’s hierarchies are much more personality based that ties into certain qualities, with looks being a second, usually. 100% spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:33 PM
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I consume porn too. I'm lonely and I consider myself to have a high libido. I don't care, unless it's a full-blown addiction. but I don't think it's fair that we demonize men, especially young men, for watching copious amounts of porn as if they really have a choice. Copious amounts of porn is a problem. That sounds like an obsession to me. Again, I don't want this to sound like I'm defending porn consumption in general, because I do think it causes brain rot You said above that it's not fair to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:07 AM
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Isn't gooning like a sexual obsession with the act of masturbation? Isn't the whole point of gooning to go as far as possible with it? Isn't the whole point of gooing to cultivate unhealthy masturbation/porn addiction practices? Anyone care to explain the philosophical theory of gooning to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:58 AM
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Individuals of each sex must be willing to interrogate their lizard brain's desires and face hard truths about how viable these desires actually are, and find ways to appease them within the context of modernity. Agreed. Being in a relationship means compromise. Individuals of each sex must be willing to cut the other sex a bit more slack, since the lizard brain is hard to interrogate (that said, protesting disparate treatment of one sex's lizard brain urges vs. the other sex's lizard brain urge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:48 AM
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I agree with OP. I do think it's way harder for men to get dates, at least through dating apps. I also think that a lot of women aren't necessarily receptive to IRL approaches. Not just cold approaches but even through friend groups sometimes. For women, it works differently. Men may enthusiastically agree to a date and then end up ghosting you or rescheduling constantly. Thing is, they may not be avoiding you because they consider you to be a bad option... a good chunk of people are probably av…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:39 AM
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I personally believe that their is no longer a reason to date people I would be willing to revisit this thought in a society where sexbots & AI have completely taken over and are a viable choice. Yes, I know there are plenty of fear-mongering articles out there talking about how X young man or Y young woman is opting out of the dating market for an AI partner. Take all of that with a load of salt. It may be enough to pacify some people, but I think, right now, if you're kind of smart, you can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:17 AM

Will there still be a clear divide between “online” and “real life” in 10–20+ years? I'm praying to god there will be, or we're all fucked. Mostly the younger generations, who take Internet discourse as gospel. Maybe at some point it'll become a huge issue, boil over & then we'll put it to rest for good. We'll look back on it the way we look back on people who called early 19th century women masculine for riding bicycles with pants on through the streets. I don't know. Listen, the Internet is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:03 AM
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Thank you for this. As for “ambitious,” “financially secure,” and “good job,” men’s stated preferences underestimated their value by about 4 ranks: Their stated preferences for these three traits ranked 25, 25 (tied), and 27 (respectively) but their revealed preferences for these three traits ranked 22, 24, and 20. Isn't that fascinating. In contrast, women’s stated preferences overestimated their value by about 4 ranks: Their stated preferences for these three traits ranked 22, 17, and 18 (resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:53 AM
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the kind of nerd that is problematic for this reason What do you mean? Was the hobby problematic, or did the hobby itself influence how you viewed women or your tastes in women? it’s an issue of having unhealthy ideas about relationships generally and not thinking of your partner as a whole person I agree, but nerdy hobbies don't necessarily lead you down that path. When I think of nerds into Western media, well, so much of it has leftist & feminist themes. At least, the most mainstream stuff. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:06 PM

how many men would pick an average-looking woman with a good heart and a modest figure over a selfish woman with a curvy body, big boobs, or an hourglass shape? Most would. How do you know this? There have been studies about this and men will always choose the most attractive option. They're biologically inclined to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:00 PM
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This is also true! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:43 PM
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Wait. I'm a woman who wants this from a man 😅 I feel called out. Is this a delusional standard for me? Considering how many men are in these spaces. I sure hope not. The type of nerdy man I'm talking about is the kind of guy who is a bit obsessive about his hobbies. Could be anime, could be videogames, tabletop, sci-fi, fantasy, whatever it is. These guys will talk about wanting to be with someone who "shares their interests", but that's a smokescreen. What they want is someone who shares their …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:40 PM
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There are plenty of passport bros that espouse the same stuff, but they're busy trying to poach women in other countries while disparaging women in the West. Just check out the passport bros subreddit. I think white men are the majority there. I have seen posts from men of other ethnicities. I am under the impression that this perception is due to higher prevalence of arranged marriage where spouse selection is based on paper traits ("biodata") and looks. This one's interesting. Usually it's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:43 PM
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I don't think point 1 matters as much as point 2, or rather, people overestimate how much point 1 matters to some women. It's how a lot of unconventionally attractive guys end up with very attractive women. A tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:14 PM
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Haha same here! Love my boring side characters. Sometimes the simpler the design, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:29 PM
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I think a good personality and similar hobbies or interests totally could do it for me. The hobbies and interests part is really important here. I think it could lead to a deeper connection and shared sexual interests. Both our libidios would be synced. We'd be able to develop a better physical relationship that way. One based on mutual understanding. I’ve heard stories of women not finding a guy attractive at first but later falling in love once they got to know him on a deeper level This is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:25 PM
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For me, it definitely stems from societal shame from men & women alike. For other women, it could be that being with you awoke something in them. They felt like they could express themselves sexually with you. I would only be able to do that if I felt I could trust my partner fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:43 AM
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OP is right, at least in my case. I’m a non-religious older female virgin. I’m scared of the consequences of sex and I haven’t taken the steps required to engage in safe sex yet. By that I mean figuring out birth control, going to the gynecologist for a checkup or even getting a pap smear. I’m not sexually active so I don’t see the point in getting one yet. I haven’t even penetrated myself yet. I don’t know why. I guess I’m just scared of my own body in a sense. I can see how that could come off…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:36 AM
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Until you meet someone who actually cares about you, you’re stuck paying for meals, giving gifts, making the first move over and over again. Men want one simple thing, and they’ve been screaming it from the hilltops since the beginning of time: they just want to be loved. This issue isn't specific to men, and I don't know why you're pre-supposing that men need to shower women with money and gifts to woo them. I have noticed that the men who assume these types of things are always going for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:01 AM

Why specifically single out men... plenty of people can end up chronically single, without ever having experienced any sort of romance or sex in their lives despite being straight & open to a relationship. I think it's worse than it ever was before for chronically single people. Even completely average folks who would have been in relationships in the past may have never experienced a romantic connection, relationships or sex before. Yesterday, I was reading up on "leftover" women in China. I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:55 PM
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Good, now they can finally go back to existing just for the weirdos like me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:01 AM
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he wants to wait until there's a deeper emotional connection I can totally respect that. It’s a completely sensible thing to want. Hopefully we can make that connection ASAP! lol. I’m in the same boat in that I would want to wait for us to be closer before doing the deed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:10 AM

A lot of unattractive beta males are in a position where they are well-educated, high-achieving, and very successful career-wise I don't know why you would pair "beta male" with these qualities. Most passport bros have none of these things, BTW. A lot of them are "LBH" (loser back home). Just the term "passport bro" is cringe by itself and men shouldn't label themselves as such. If you have the qualities listed above, why would you want to be associated with this term and all the PUA shit surrou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:40 PM
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I'm a KHHV myself and I want to. I would prefer a man like that. We could explore being sexual together & work up to losing our virginity to each other. Funnily enough, this may lead to a reverse situation where a man lies about his high body count to not intimidate me, like some men who lie about being virgins despite seeing escorts. Ultimately, it's close to impossible to know a person's sexual history anyway. So I wouldn't let it dictate my dating life because obviously that's not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:27 PM
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Wait, are you trying to describe yourself as a guy with "low preferences"? Because you said you wanted a girlfriend who dresses nice and is physically fit and not fat, not be much of a talker. That's pretty high standards by itself? Or maybe that's just normal for your country, which would be fair. I hope you're all the things you want in a partner. In North America a lot of people are obese or overweight and people outside of the big cities won't dress as nice. Not being much of a talker is a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 07:58 PM
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This is only a disadvantage if you’re ugly. I think an attractive shy and socially awkward woman can net her ideal guy through a dating app easily. And if she chooses to message a guy, she can probably get a date with him even if her messages to him are awkward. If you’re neurodivergent, that’s in vogue now too, especially if you’re conventionally attractive. Hell, ugly NDs are the minority online these days. Or I guess they’re just overshadowed by the countless attractive ND women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:55 AM
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No, what the hell. Most people traditionally didn't do all of this either. It's more important to spend time with each other. Pulling out the chair for her... what? And where I live, everyone opens and keeps the door open for everyone else so that's just normal behaviour. If you live in North America, you're driving everywhere so the sidewalk rule is meaningless. Paying for dates, even first dates all the time and buying gifts & flowers every month is excessive and unnecessary. Any woman who exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:33 PM
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I think this is a generational thing now that only Millennials, Gen X and Boomers say. A lot of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are going to be single into their mid-30s. A lot of them are choosing not to date. Combined, they're also a smaller cohort compared to the generations before them. I think this saying is going to become uncommon in the future (unless it's the aforementioned older gens going after younger gens. "Gen Z/Alpha killed the dating industry!" like Millennials killed the diamond industry an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:09 AM

For instance, women have prioritized abortion above all other political issues, things like: the economy, war and peace, the welfare of children...the reason women are obsessed with abortion is that they actually, literally believe that it's one step away from literal, actual the Handmaid's Tale - like, the full Hollywood version of it - actually happening This is the dumbest shit I've read today. The fact that a woman's reproductive rights are so politicized in the U.S., and is still an issue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:41 PM
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I've never been in a relationship before either and I'm past my 20s. In fact, I'd prefer to be with a man like that, but they only seem abundant online. Makes sense why he wouldn't do it IRL... admitting to this is practically social suicide in most spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:19 PM
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Low standards for hookups. High standards for being seen in public with her, AKA a relationship. This is also why I, as a woman, support the creation of sex bots lol. Hope it will finally take the men who just want sex out of the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:04 AM
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lol, you don't know a thing about women. But this is PPD so continue with your rhetoric. since those books are all about the narcisstic feamale desire to be center of desire Amazing conclusion you jumped to there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:43 PM
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Because why the hell not. We're socialized into our tastes a lot too. I'm sure if there was a push or effort to sexualize guys to women's tastes on sex toys it would work. It worked for harlequin novels and erotica on booktok. Why would they bother putting hunky men on the covers of those if women didn't find it appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:39 PM
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Not a problem for me, as long as it’s not something illegal. Like stuff modeled after minors or using minors in its marketing. 🤮 AKA quite a few Japanese onahole toys. I don’t really see it as all that different from female sex toys, though the male toys (outside of Tenga) lean heavily on putting female bodies on the packaging and all. Plenty of porn stars with toy lines too. Quite a difference from the way female sex toys are packaged and marketed. When I was searching for sex toys (long story……
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:26 AM

Why can’t a fat woman use her wealth or class to date a fit man? It does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:25 AM
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I consider myself as an adjacent in the traditional sense of that word (not whatever pink pill nonsense it’s come to mean today), and fuck no I wouldn’t. I’m not that desperate nor do I want a transactional relationship like that. I can cook and clean for myself (most women are made to do this at an early age anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:56 AM
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I think PUAs ruined cold approaching. It used to be a lot more innocent before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:54 AM

Regarding the U.S.... Stupid populist politicians are going to use a bunch of idiotic TikToks to justify policies that will impact entire generations and we're just seeing the start of it now. To be honest, Roe vs. Wade was always contentious and the Dems did have a long time to codify it or something like that, AFAIK? If it keeps going the way it is, I do expect a civil war in the U.S. haha I think the divide is way worse in Korea and it has its own issues with populist politicians. How they ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:20 AM

I’m more worried about how the religious right will use this to influence policy and obstruct the rights of women (in Western countries). They’ve already started in the U.S., after all. Or they may not go after women directly but after single people by taxing anyone who isn’t married with kids more. When men do it, no one cares. When women do it, the whole world wakes up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:40 AM
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I’d rather have him cheat on me with a man. Honestly that reveal wouldn’t even make me mad; I’d be intrigued. And heartbroken… would definitely have me questioning my looks even more than I already do. But him cheating on me with a woman would probably mess me up more. I feel like it would be easier for me to handwave a same-sex affair. There are still so many closeted people in the world. Even if he was my ideal partner I’d want him to be happy… and out of the closet. If he has a history of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:05 AM
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A lot of the women saying these things are influencers and do not have a steady income.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:17 PM
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There are plenty of women who are not hypergamous and have realistic standards for men. Many of us are below average in looks and understand our SMV and DMV. We want men in the same league as us. But these men do not want anything to do with us. They'd rather shoot their shot with a better looking woman who has all the toxic traits you described. Men and women need to get better at discerning character. There are a lot of different waves of feminism, and while I agree that it tend to leave men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:05 PM
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I think as technology progresses and AI improves lots of men will opt out of relationships entirely. I think plenty of women will too. AFAIK, AI boyfriends are already popular with young Chinese women. Those people can have their sexbots and go their own way... personally I don't care. How will governments react to people not looking for relationships anymore? I think many industries and social programs could lose profit/funding. We already know birth rates are decreasing across the world. Makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:47 PM
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The problem is how the sentence is framed. "Sex is a need for men". Why didn't you just state that sex is a need for everybody? Ignoring outliers, which would include groups of men too. Doesn't that make more sense? The way you've stated things, you're really blurring the line between what a need is and what a requirement is. Don't be surprised if people assume you're conflating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:54 PM
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Exactly. And if sex is this much of a need, then why are men so hypercompetitive with each other when it comes to the dating market? They would be helping each other out more if they all recognized sex as something all men need. Governments and institutions would try to do the same. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs would have to be updated. I recall the Netherlands already tried providing prostitutes to disabled people at some point. I think it makes sense in that scenario. Not all of them can go out…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:34 PM
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This is just another attempt to minimize the way women feel attraction and replace it with how men feel attraction. The idea that a woman would be suddenly overcome by lust upon seeing a compatible man sounds like medieval hogwash (because in the olden days men believed women were sexual deviants and men were pure beings corrupted by them). It’s more likely that as a woman gets to know a man better, she’ll start to feel more and more attracted to him physically and sexually. It’s a slow burn. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:11 AM
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A common trait seen in FA/ incel men is that oftentimes they come from conservative cultures in which parents do not talk to their children about sex and relationships. This is basic stuff all people should know at a certain age and shouldn't have anything to do with attracting women. They are also often forbidden from having relationships with girls at all and are told to focus on studying and career growth. These same parents are then pikachu face shocked that their sons, now in their mid to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:44 PM
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Then men should be honest and state that they want a romantic relationship with a healthy sex life instead of complaining about this vague sense of loneliness. I have interpreted the male loneliness epidemic as men not having enough friends or a support network. Which is a huge issue. Solve that and men no longer feel pressured into getting into a relationship they wouldn't have wanted to be in otherwise. Same goes for women, though nowadays many women are feeling empowered by staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:01 PM
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It's not only men, it's women too. I know the abortion rights debate has been raging in the U.S. for a long time now, and plenty of women want to stop all abortions unless rape, and even that is contested. There are many religious women who oppose sex ed and contraceptives. Without their help there's no way the U.S. would have rolled back Roe v Wade and made steps to criminalize abortion in red states. Beyond abortion, reproductive rights, contraceptives & sex ed, which are curtailed in only a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 12:36 AM
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Pearl doesn’t have any good stances lol. I am an older female virgin and I am not desperate to lose my virginity at my age. Maybe if I reach an even older age without having experienced sex, I may end up doing a hookup or something just to see what it feels like, though I don’t like hookups. Better than nothing, I suppose. But if the guy I hook up with doesn’t make me feel safe or tries to do something I’m not comfortable with, I will simply get up and leave his ass in the middle of the act if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:52 AM
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Do you really think that the rights and freedoms you hold would not be challenged by some enemy that doesn’t hold them? You mean like Roe v. Wade? And its current status in the U.S.? If there are any good reasons to opt out of hook-ups or dating it would be not having reproductive rights. Going to jail in a red state for an abortion is a perfectly good reason why some women may want to remain single. When there is an attack but you don’t have people of your same beliefs to defend you and your id…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:48 AM
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It absolutely would affect women. Women would start asking men out and being more active in relationships to get one. Given how far we've come in giving women's rights (feels like we've regressed in some areas though), I don't think as many women would start doing this as they might have in the past, of course. Even with women embracing being single, way too many women worldwide are concerned with romance & relationships for men dropping out of the dating market to not affect women. And everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:17 PM
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Some women are hypocritical and lack self-awareness. Though I think it’s easier for women to engage with men in real life and they’re willing to give men who are vetted by others a chance, like through an introduction at a party, even if they’re not super attractive. It’s a lot harder to vet men on the apps. Too easy to lie on them and equally as easy to drop them if they don’t match up to your tastes. Easiest route is to drop the man and move to a different one who is better looking which is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:30 AM
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The image of a successful man should no longer hinge on his relationship status but instead on his ability to build a fulfilling, meaningful life devoid of dependency on women or romantic validation. I agree with this. I hang out on a lot of FA-specific and FA-related subs. We're all there to commiserate equally, but many of the FA subs are filled with men. Whereas the women-oriented subs are filled with happily single women who are empowered by their singledom. I've never really seen any posts …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:37 PM
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I think a lot of women are willing to put up with unhygienic men if they're super attractive. Though the tide is shifting now. It's disturbingly common for all types of men to not wash their hands after using the bathroom. That's a pretty reasonable hygiene expectation. Even just running your hands under water before leaving. I also feel that men are considered unhygienic due to things out of their control, like body odour. You could be perfect at concealing your odour 99% of the time, but if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:18 PM

Basically just happy to sit in the same room with me, without talking or even being In a seperate room. Well, I am an introvert. But if I were sitting with the same room as my SO, I would want to talk to them. It's really strange that you interpret this as a woman making you her entertainment? It's normal to want to socialize with your lover? Once you two are used to each other's presence then you will naturally fall silent while being in the same room, but in those initial stages there would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:16 PM
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It doesn't entirely hold up for me, I like imagining the man's POV as well as the man's pleasure. It's a little Freudian. lol women's sexual fantasies often center on how much their partner desires them This is true... in the West, women are heavily socialized into recognizing femininity as sexual and more desirable in bed. I think it's so bad that some men may even embarrassed to moan in bed because they think it comes off as effeminate. Anyway, as someone who is considered conventionally unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:34 AM
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A thread that resonates with me. Even if I find someone, I wonder if I’m damaged goods at this point. I’ll still try regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:13 AM
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In an ideal world where no one is exploited and gender relations are as equal as they can get, then yes. Currently there are serious problems with human trafficking and other terrible things in the sex work industry within developing and developed countries that I don't see addressed enough by pro-sex work advocates. For every middle or upper class sex worker in a developed nation who feels empowered by his or her work, there are more than 10 lower SES folk who either have no choice but to engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:34 PM
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I don't care. I live with my parents too, but I have a job & savings (for now, given the CAD is going down the shitter, who knows). I also buy them a lot of gifts so they keep me around. lol No, j/k, Asian parents tend to be okay with their kids living with them if they're unmarried, even at older ages. I have a family friend with a daughter who had a stable job but didn't move out until her 40s. She's single. I'm saving up for a down payment while living with them, so I'm very happy. Otherwise …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:07 AM
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She claims that she rather be alone then settle. I see this sentiment a lot across online female-oriented spaces. As a forever alone woman (a woman who has never been in a relationship, dated, is a KKHV, etc), my view is the opposite of this, but I understand why a woman would rather be alone than settle for a crappy relationship. I've seen threads on /r/AskWomenOver30 lamenting over their SOs or ex-SOs and their bad habits. I was really surprised to read about the unhygienic manchildren these w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:40 PM
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And that unattractive men only settle for relationships and are nice because they can't use women like Chad does. Reading this made me realize how fucked up this notion is. I'm not to the point where I think all men are like this but sometimes I come uncomfortably close. Then I remember I need to go and touch grass, ha ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:13 PM
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You don't know anything about my taste in men. And it's better to be realistic about looks. You don't have to be 100% into the way someone looks the moment you meet them and decide to be with them. It's something that grows naturally with time. That's something a lot of people are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:07 PM
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I’d ask him if he wants help working through that because those beliefs are toxic. If he’s not willing to, then I’d probably end up leaving the relationship. Not worth pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:37 AM
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There's a KaiserBauch video on Youtube about demographics related to dating. He points out that men are after a cohort of young women that don't exist where they live. Since most young women move to cities. Anyway, I think you're overestimating how many young women are either LGBT+ or participating in the 4B movement or hookup culture alone. If there were so many LGBT+ people in Gen Z, you'd think there would be a lot more backlash towards anti-LGBT+ laws worldwide as well as the dismantling of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:43 PM
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Most women are right in that sense, the men they are attracted to DO treat them like an option. They DON'T put effort in. They do just use them for sex etc. The problem is that even men who are matched with women in terms of looks are treating women like options and for sex only. Even if these men don't get any female attention, they have the same mindset as a man who does. I know what my league is and I intend to stay within it, even though I may be physically attracted to completely different …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:07 PM
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I think that's fair, but good luck convincing men to shave their pits. I honestly don't see how shaving your armpits is a hygiene concern. All hair traps bacteria. Should we shave the hair on our head? Obviously not. As long as you clean your pits and hair properly every day and use deodorant, you're good. I just think getting a cut from shaving your armpits that gets infected is a 100 times worse than not shaving them at all. The skin there is delicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:15 PM
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Shaving your armpits can cause more issues than not… also shaving can introduce ingrown hairs which can lead to far worse health issues than being smelly. There are also other factors that contribute to how smelly people can get when sweaty, like diet, genetics, and health issues. For example, Asians don’t have the gene that produces body odour so in places like Japan, it was normal for women to not shave their armpits. It’s now far less common due to Westernization. Women in Japan don’t shave t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:10 AM
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I find many men lack basic empathy towards women they’re not sexually attracted to or find ugly. We’re invisible even to ugly guys. And men complain all the time that women are super harsh when rating men, but go to any male-dominated online space and you’ll see men rating average women as 3 or below. Men are often superficial when it comes to looks when pursuing a relationship (not sex). Things are getting a little more equal now because attractive women who would previously settle for an ugly …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 02:17 AM
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Yes, because I'm average too (in terms of the post description). If he shares the same values as me and he's responsible & knows how to take care of himself, and he's got a good personality I would gladly marry him. If he has a mental illness he should be able to manage it. Any adult should be able to do that. The pickiness stuff is from terminally online folks Playing video games is a hobby lol Just because some people say it isn't doesn't mean it can't be
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:05 PM
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Ugly women have to be feminine to be seen as women... attractive women can be feminine or unfeminine and men will still be into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:02 PM
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Depends on whether you see having lots of sex as a meaningful advantage, or whether you see long-term relationships as one. As a woman I care more about the latter. Therefore men have the advantage. They also have the advantage because an ugly man is still more socially acceptable than an ugly woman. In most circles, women are praised for choosing ugly guys like it’s a test of her moral character. This is reinforced by the media too and it’s exceedingly rare to see the reverse. It is changing, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:44 AM
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I'm a woman with the same score as you. 0/15. I am also ugly. Take that as you will
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:25 AM
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What you wrote can only apply to attractive women. I hope you understand that just because woman get a lot of likes on Tinder doesn't mean those guys actually care to pursue anything for her. So many men will mass swipe literally any dating profile whether the match makes sense for him or not. It's such a terrible practice, and it's one that leads to men getting ignored on the apps. My condolences to any men who aren't like this. men have to choose correctly from whatever women in a set they app…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:17 PM
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Maybe the top percentile of women. I’m in the bottom percentile so none of this applies to me. I think you’re living in a bubble if you think women as a whole don’t want to date. Younger generations have a lot more to distract them from dating. Social media is taking over attention spans. In the past people dated and had sex because there was little else to do. Then the sexual revolution came and it was a new & exciting time to explore sexuality after centuries of conservatism. Now we have all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:40 AM
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OP is correct. I've been loosely following the abortion date in the U.S. since 2011. Even before this, Christian extremists went as far as to bomb Planned Parenthood in the 80s and it's still happening in the 2010s. Multiple doctors who performed abortions have been murdered by extremists too. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/29/us/30abortion-clinic-violence.html https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1957842/ https://globalnews.ca/news/2366316/a-history-of-attacks-on-planned-parenthood/ Acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:14 AM
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I think it all depends on how advanced they get, and if they can provide an actual physical presence. As it is you can already use AI to generate nudes and such. I even saw an AI dating app styled after Tinder where the AI produces nudes. I wonder what the world will look like once AI & sexbots become popular, normalized and highly advanced enough for large amounts of people to willingly give up their human relationships for. I totally believe we're headed towards this brave new world. The birth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:03 AM
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If there were more guys like this, dating wouldn't be so lopsided in favour of women. We need to normalize women asking men out. But women tend to be socialized in such a way that rejecting her = the ultimate insult because women simply "are". Whereas men are expected to just shrug it off and try again because men "can be" something more if they put the effort in. I have to admit, as an ugly woman it would be a lot harder for me to deal with. I think I'll have to be the initiator in any relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:13 PM
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