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See that up there? That's the point, whooshing over your head. You're being accused of "hamstering." It doesn't appear to be a false accusation.
/r/RedPillBooks16/04/14 06:19 PM
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I don't think he meant it that way based on what other posts he wrote and he's not a native English speaker. I could be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 01:25 AM
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You can't understand me and I can't understand you. I think this argument has gone past the pointlessness of no return.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:56 PM
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You can't understand me and I can't understand you. I think this argument has gone past the pointlessness of no return.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:55 PM
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No. What's vague about what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 12:39 PM
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Yes, but I never said the vague and uninterpretable phrase "men and women are equal," nor did I say that all individual men and women have things just as good/bad. I said that it's a subjective thing, and different individuals would have an easier or harder time fitting into different gender expectations. It's not a quantitative equality, but a state of equality that exists because it is unquantifiable. Please read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:43 AM
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Being a man in RPGs is much better. I mean, if I'm in the right context, I'll prefer to be a woman because I am myself and I am a woman, but I like challenges, authority, etc. and dislike being coddled and flirted with and all that crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:43 AM
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Why don't people get that it's an individual thing? Obviously being the Queen of England is better than being a homeless orphan boy. Obviously being the President is better than being a woman in Afghanistan. Being a woman or being a man is meaningless in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:41 AM
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This made me like the French more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:34 AM
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I prefer if my dog doesn't stray, no matter what gender it is. I don't own cats, but those outdoor cats can be evil. Wait, by females, you mean humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:32 AM
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According to other studies women have more depression and mental health issues. If it were conclusive, it would be no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:31 AM
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Yeah, and you fight wars all the time in the first world too. Crap happens. C'est la vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:29 AM
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OK. Get me some money. I don't think it's easier to be a man. I think it's equal. You think it's easier to be a woman. The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 01:28 AM
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We could argue on the philosophy tangent for the rest of our lives. I'll just say I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 01:11 PM
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That's exactly what I was trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 01:10 PM
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If women have it so well, just go be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 01:09 PM
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Then why were you arguing for determinism? You just changed your argument because you didn't like being compared to leprechauns, didn't you. You need evidence for philosophy. Science is the modern name we give natural philosophy. Other kinds of philosophy cover other topics, like morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:38 AM
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's not the same for each individual though. For example I think I would do better doing what men have to do, but that doesn't mean I think men have it easier, just that I would have it easier being viewed socially as a man. I know guys who would like to be able to be "girly" too and I admire them because they're good at stuff like showing sympathy and being social that I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:34 AM
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I wasn't trying to change it or I would've said that to the OP, but OK whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:30 AM
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You really think men have it harder than women? You'd rather die giving birth to a miscarried rape baby than by a gunshot wound on the battlefield for the glory of your country? You'd like people to ask you why you're so aloof all the time? That's what it's like being a woman, people expect you to be all smiley and virginal and you just want to hit stuff and shoot stuff and have wild kinky sex in which you are not the bottom. Most of your role models are the opposite gender, and you don't get ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:26 AM
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You're not trying to be attractive to all women. You're trying to be attractive to a woman. Whether or not your observations are true doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 04:19 AM
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Did you really get downvoted? I'd like to see a man try to be a woman. Most women don't know how and aren't willing to be socially masculine, and most men don't know how and aren't willing to be socially feminine. I would bet actual money the dude would have a much harder time than this chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 04:15 AM
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Girls do hear it some where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 04:07 AM
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Touché, pussycat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 04:01 AM
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It's not easier being a woman. Some individuals have an easier time fitting into socially female roles and some fit more easily into socially male roles. Quantitatively, there is no social gap. Qualitatively, yes there is. What women's/men's rights groups want is for people to be able to be individuals instead of cookie cutters. Redpillers have already mentioned this. It's old news.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 03:55 AM
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That's what you meant to say? Not really. Determinism isn't contradictory to the notion of rewarding good behavior, but just because we don't have evidence for free will doesn't mean we have evidence for determinism. I don't have evidence for unicorns, but that doesn't mean I have evidence for leprechauns.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 03:39 AM
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As you said, it's an emergent phenomenon. By definition it happens at a higher level but not a lower one. The brain has feelings, but not the atoms. Physicists and chemists don't talk about how atoms feel. Psychologists and psychiatrists don't talk about how atoms feel. By the way, molecules and ions are usually what sends signals in the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:36 PM
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Determinism has nothing to do with what I said, really. I was just saying that there is no rational way to do any calculations or anything I emergent phenomena, and that they are based on experience, which is not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 08:01 PM
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Emergent phenomena are where science starts being irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:47 AM
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Yeah, this sub is pointless, like life itself. I like being challenged. I'm practically a modern Sisyphus. I don't downvote in this sub. I don't really know how to downvote in this sub. I don't want to so I haven't found out. Are you downvoting me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 05:45 AM
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Not even sex toys? What's this psychological motive of yours? Masochism (not the BDSM kind)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:59 AM
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That doesn't mean every TRPer believes exactly the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:56 AM
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What are these scientific measures you speak of? I use common sense, and you use utterly insubstantial claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:55 AM
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I'm not a chemist or physicist, but I'm pretty sure atoms don't have feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:51 AM
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What the heck is an alpha female and where is this proven schtuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 09:54 PM
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I'd get less turned off by that than histrionic machismo. I just prefer normal guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 09:54 PM
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Both use their minds and bodies equally. TRP men out for sex aren't particularly intellectual, and a body doesn't work without a brain and nervous system.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 09:54 PM
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I am an absurdist. I don't think that humans will ever find meaning to life if there is any, and even if someone has, people can't communicate so I still won't know. I'm agnostic, or a "passive atheist" who doesn't believe there is a God but doesn't believe that there is no god. I don't believe in anything, but I know nothing, and that let's me have the search for meaning, which can be meaningful. I'm irrational because u think the universe is irrational, but I can be rational, I just think rati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:39 PM
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No, declining has nothing to do with adjectives. It only applies to nouns. Conjugation is only for verbs, and not adjectives either. Go back to STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:48 PM
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I don't want a man to ask to kiss me. I want to grab him forcibly and rip off his shirt and grab his nipples so hard it hurts and throw him to the ground and kiss him. If a guy tries grab and kiss me, he's not my type. I would prefer being asked to kiss to being molested. Yes, I am aware that the majority of women like a dominant man. The thing is that you never are interacting with a statistic like "the majority of women," you are interacting with specific individual women. People are not stati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:40 AM
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Dude, just masturbate then. Don't give up your integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 04:01 AM
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No. I haven't had sex recently, and if I did it would be me fucking them... Relationships are mostly for talking to people and interacting with them on an emotional level. Sex is better in relationships, but you don't trade sex for relationships. That's like saying going to movies with your friends is a transaction that you do because you want to watch a movie and they do because they want free food or stuff from you. Maybe you only have bad friends who are only using you for favors, but that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:54 AM
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That's not what declining means. Declining means listing the different forms of a noun according to case, number, and gender. The only languages I know that you can do this in are Latin and German, but I think it applies to Greek.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 03:47 AM
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I thought the value of "pussy" was orgasms. That's all I've ever gotten with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:43 AM
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That's not a double standard. A double standard would be dating someone with a dick but not wanting them to date someone with a dick (you).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:39 AM
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Uh, I'm a woman and sex works like that for me. Are all the women you know guests on that stupid Steve Harvey show or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:34 AM
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Sex is über important. I'm counting masturbation, fantasizing, porn, etc. though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/14 01:31 AM
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And that's fine. But that's not how the majority of TRPers or mods seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 02:41 AM
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I read that article right when it came out. It says stupid and obvious things, alternately, in a rather pompous way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 01:25 AM
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The loudest people on TRP say that TRP applies all the time and shows the secret workings of the human mind, not that it's a way to get some dates sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 01:23 AM
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I don't want one right now. I could, but I don't see it as likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 01:20 AM
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Then what is it, and what makes it work when other things with that goal don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 01:19 AM
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Thanks. FYI to all the confused males out there, women like genuinely nice guys as much as you like nice girls or nice people in general. Actually being compassionate works. Yes, some (maybe even most, but definitely not all; look no further than femdom or the term for a female "bad boy", the femme fatale) women like a "bad boy"-type or a dominant male, but they still want them to be rebellious or dominating in an empathetic way. Look at successful relationships and unsuccessful relationships, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:13 AM
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Woman is gender. Female is sex. Sex you are born with, or you can assign yourself.. Woman is your gender. However, gender roles are fluid (i.e., a woman can act like a man, but a female can't be a man, etc. ) According to your definition a female could be a man. Or did you mean a woman? This is not useful when you're talking about gender roles. I thought we were defining being a woman, not talking about gender roles. But you can speak on the superficiality of RP? I'm not really following you the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 04:06 AM
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Yes, treating women like children is a good idea, much less an original one. I don't know if you're referring to the quality of the writing or the message but I don't see either. The grammar is usually good quality though, so I guess that could be considered quality content. I could find good grammar somewhere else if that's what I really wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:57 AM
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No, I don't have a BF/SO, so if I thought I did I'd be delusional. I don't see myself getting one soon so I can't speak in hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:53 AM
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Gravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:51 AM
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I read the article. I decided to spend half my post on criticisms of it rather than analysis. I've read too much stuff like it for it to warrant a deep analysis. Now what warrants a deep analysis is Shakespeare or Goethe or other literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:50 AM
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Bias? I was just talking in psychological terms. If there is a less loaded way to put it, it is "Does TRP think everyone has a personality disorder(s) but the two different genders always have different ones?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:47 AM
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A woman is a female human. How someone defines herself or himself does not change the definition. The word woman comes from old English wifman, wif = female, man = human (it used to only apply in the gender neutral sense.) A male man was a werman, but now they're just a man. Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with courting. I'm familiar with instances of courting, but I don't have personal experience and can definitely not speak for the human race. On the thing with China and India, they have most of the worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:44 AM
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Women: Human beings possessing female genitalia or wanting to possess female genitalia. Normal courtship process: I don't know most humans who have ever lived and courted or eve most human beings that live and court. I know that it tends to vary a lot by culture. I would say since China and India have the most population, it's probably that older kids' parents hook them up for a transfer of property and the kids usually decide that any objection they have with each other is not enough to fight t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 03:26 AM
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OK. Give me a claim. I'm getting bored playing with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:04 AM
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What are you getting from arguing with me rather than doing something more pleasurable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:03 AM
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Yes, but just as few things exclude it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 04:02 AM
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It's a sidebar article about how much things suck for men now as compared to the 1980s, but apparently women have everything good. You know, because there are so many good female role models and men didn't take credit for their wives and GFs poetry, art, math, etc. ever, which leaves us with lots of great female thinkers to look up to and not just a handful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:39 AM
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Hitler was a vegetarian who appreciated art and had a dog. His moustache was also based on Charlie Chaplin. And that's a real sticking point for the people that find Hitler repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:36 AM
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Maybe because the one dude the woman was complaining about wasn't representative of the dudes she was banging?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:33 AM
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I wasn't the person who made the argument, so you might not say "you" in reference to me next time. And yes, sexual relationships have to do with sex. I don't know where I implied that TRPers were bad at sex. I just implied that a guy can be good at sex but so annoying he makes a woman not want to do it with him. That could be calling TRPers annoying, but I'm not saying "terps have tiny penises lololol"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:31 AM
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Yes, they do. I haven't seen the abuse in academic feminism so much as Jezebel and whatever though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:27 AM
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I don't have a BF/SO. If I cared what they thought about it, I'd be a schizophrenic whose BF/SO is an hallucination/delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:26 AM
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I've read the sidebar. You are the straw redpill, apparently, if you won't argue with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 02:24 AM
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Who's stopping you from getting married? I'm assuming you don't live in the US, South America, or a list of European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:12 AM
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The man knows if he freaks out everyone freaks out. Good thing you didn't live in my house.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:11 AM
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Also, side note- I think it's far weirder to not want any form of human companionship than to be dependent on it. It is. It's called Schizoid Personality Disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:07 AM
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Good luck finding a woman like that. Hello.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:05 AM
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Not if your greatest goal in life is to develop a personality disorder to increase confidence and manipulate others before they can screw you over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:04 AM
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How? Many women enjoy casual sex and might have it despite their partner not being good for an LTR if the partner really knows good sexual technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 12:02 AM
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I would if people tried to use "shitlord" and "mansplaining" as actual technical terms. You can tell what rape culture is from its name. This also applies to many TRP terms, such as sexual market value, alpha male, etc. Solipsism is a word that has a very specific meaning that is not "lacking cognitive self-awareness." A hamster is a little furry thing and the Wall is by Pink Floyd, unless you're talking about the Berlin Wall or the Great Wall of China. Technical, scientific terms (even if the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 11:35 PM
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It doesn't matter how one says something, only what one says. I couldn't give a rat's ass how TRP says what they say. To be honest, flowery language used by anyone only seems like it's obscuring the truth. I don't even like a lot of popular poetry because it's just dressed-up versions of ideas that make no sense. TRP is like hate poetry. If they used real terms instead of "solipsistic" and "hamster" and "the Wall" there would probably not be as many followers since they would not have a channel …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 09:19 PM
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Don't get cocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 09:15 PM
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"Attractive" isn't an objective term. Unless you mean you're less magnetically or gravitationally attractive, then it is. You're obviously more attractive to the women you want now then you were then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 08:52 PM
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Red Pill is the result of generalizations that are applied with absoluteness or near-absoluteness to the whole population. Blue Pill is a catch-all term for everything else, whether more moderate generalizations or an individualistic approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 06:40 PM
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"Solipsism." You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Solipsism is a term in philosophy referring to the viewpoint that the self is all that exists and there are different kinds of solipsism that are less extreme, like the self is all that can be known to exist rather than the whole universe is an illusion. When TRP says solipsism, they tend to refer to narcissism. There are more male narcissists than female by a little bit, actually, but if they called it what …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 06:38 PM
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The Wall is stupid. Yes, it is harder for women to find partners after they turn 30. It is also harder for men to find partners after they turn 30. Why? The partner pool has shrunken. For some reason culture pressures women to get married much more than it pressures men to get married. What's the name for a male spinster/cat lady? There isn't one, but (at least in the USA and many other countries where the female:male ratio is about 1:1) there's about one woman for every man, so there's one unma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 06:27 PM
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From their perspective Of course there's tons of sexism on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/14 01:36 AM
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Yes, but even if a woman is not capable of having agency, aren't they at least capable of having intentions? That's largely how guilt is judged in a court of law. I don't know enough people who have cheated to counter your descriptions of cheating for the genders, so I'll leave that to someone who has experience there. Come on Harpies and White Knights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 02:03 AM
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It doesn't make my question invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 09:50 PM
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No, I meant "Opposite of what?" I say what I mean, even if what I mean makes no sense to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:27 PM
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I have. If you mean that men and women are opposite of each other, then you're going to have to explain. An intelligent bipedal ape and another intelligent bipedal ape don't exactly seem to be opposites to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 07:59 PM
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I was saying that nationalism is considered a form of extremism, but just having a country is not considered a form of extremism. That's what TRP does with their purported facts IMO. So they're like Ayn Rand fans except they can't be because Ayn Rand has a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 07:56 PM
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Opposite of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 06:47 PM
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What I understand is that she thinks it is equally discriminating to men and women based on gender, rather than just hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 06:22 PM
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You apply the morality to women. If you didn't, you wouldn't think anything women did was wrong. You just perceive yourself as morally in the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:35 PM
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So instead of arguing on the definition of morality and whether it applies to sexual strategy. you just put up the proposition that people cannot control their attraction as if that were undoubtably true, much less directly relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:32 PM
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That's not even what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that TRP philosophy is immoral, not TRP "theories." It's like the difference between saying nationalism is extreme vs. nations are extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:27 PM
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Yes. I post on a subreddit that uses TRPers for dark humor and both Horatian and Juvenalian satire and then I say, "I want to have a serious conversation with those people about beliefs."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:33 PM
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TRP isn't just facts, though. Even if we take all the gimmicks it says as facts, it's still pretty prescriptive rather than simply descriptive and uses non-literal terms like "hamster" which indicate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:30 PM
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I don't have a morality, which is why it bothers me that TRPers call themselves amoral when I don't see how they are. The best way to care about other people, according to my beliefs, is just to care about them, not to have any absolutes like "don't lie" etc. I haven't seen a TRPer define morality to say why they do or don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 12:06 PM
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Morals can apply to anything (whether or not they are valid morals is another argument). I might as well say that since knives are amoral, stabbing a random passerby in the heart cannot be judged by any standard of morality because I'm just applying "knife strategy" even though in this hypothetical situation I have a moral that says "killing is always bad". If I had an amoral reason to stab someone (like a temporary bout of insanity) then that could be considered amoral by my own standards in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:16 AM
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So, what is your opinion on the word? You only say what it isn't but not what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:02 AM
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TRP never directly says "we are immoral" but they always put forth morals like honor, loyalty, etc. then they say it doesn't apply to sexual strategy, which would no longer be amoral behavior, but immoral behavior, since they are contradicting morals intentionally. They also use supposed moral inferiority of women as their primary reason to think men are superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 07:47 AM
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I don't think sexism exists in TRP from their perspective, for the most part. I think they call sexism gender differences, and bigotry not being afraid to speak their mind. They're honest in this respect, and that's almost admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 07:10 AM
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Citation needed for women in question kvetching and moaning. Actually, citation needed that there was a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 07:03 AM
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Men and women aren't equal, no. The genitals and some other regions are different. However, let's say all men have an unexpressed gene on their Y chromosome that sometimes causes them to be short. Some global event mutated it and now 50% of all male offspring are 4 feet tall. Would me not women now be taller? On average, women would, but when looking at an average woman and an average man without the hypothetical mutation, the man would be taller. Whether men and women according to a statistic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 06:59 AM
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I thought TRP said women peaked in their teens or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 06:09 AM
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"logical phallices" Sigmund Freud would be proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 06:01 AM
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"If we are flipping coins, I can't say whether or not each flip will be heads or tails. But if we flip a thousand times its going to be damn close to 500/500." Unless you're Rosencrantz. In all seriousness, this is why I can't take science as absolute truth. Every experiment seems to be able to be compared to a coin toss, and I've had some pretty weird coin tosses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:34 AM
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