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Even a better reason not to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:08 AM

Why get married though? A LTR is the same but without the legal traps for men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:46 AM

Marriage has nothing to offer men and I’d even say that most men who get married, only do it to please their women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:34 AM

Even though I totally detest PUA they are right about being social is the only way to improve social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:02 PM

I’d say no men are naturally good at dating. Successful daters have gone through the stages, been awkward and made many women uncomfortable before they were successful. Like everything else on life, success follows lots of failures and a lots of learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:58 PM

Imagine a older woman has two men she could chose between: A man her age who has plenty of options. He could pick a woman considerably younger, hotter, fitter and tighter than her. He has plenty of life experience, he has his way of doing things and pretty high demands when it comes to women and his life. A younger guy with few options. Constantly thinks about sex and is not very picky. He doesn't have much life experience and open to change and trying new things. With man 1 she will first of al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:28 PM
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Only first night? Do you think people who sleep around only sleep with a person one time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:21 AM

It’s not about earning. It’s about optimising your chances of getting what you want. If you want a well paid job, you can get lucky and randomly land one. But if you have a degree your chances are much higher. If you want to master an instrument, practice makes chances of reaching that goal much higher. The same goes with love/affection/sex. You can get lucky, but chances you succeed is much higher if you put an effort in it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:39 AM

Of course. Age makes it more difficult to stay in shape and the more society accepts fat people, less people overall will try to stay in shape. I agree that people’s taste will change with time. But personally, fat doesn’t turn me on. It never has and I doubt it will in 2030
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:40 AM
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Where I live average for a lifetime is 10 for men and 12 for women. There is a large difference in generations where older generations have significantly less partners. So unless your a boomer, 7 is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:37 AM
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RP is not something invented on Reddit. It existed even before Reddit was invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:28 AM
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Moral, per definition, can never be objective. Most people I know don’t have any beliefs about morals. They are more about ethics. I think everyone has insecurities, my point is that many unfortunately use morals as a crutch instead of doing something about them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:42 PM
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They surely spin plates and that is a good thing. RP is all about not needing to manipulate, lie, cheat and do whatever they can to get sex. It is exactly the opposite. RP is very focused on that sex should only be based on mutual genuine desire. I think you might need to look into what RP is. If you meet a man who acts the way you describe, he is definitely not a RP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:38 PM
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If that was correct, married persons or persons who have been in a long LTR would be masters in bed. We all know that isn’t true. My experience being a promiscuous man who also has been in a LTR (20 years and I was 100% faithful) is that women differ a lot when it comes to what they like in bed. If you spend your life with one woman you will learn how to please her. If you, for some reason end up in a situation where you have sex with another woman, you basically start from zero and you will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:33 PM
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Morals are subjective and often used as a crutch for people with insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:17 PM
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That is definitely not my experience. I am probably what most in here would call a promiscuous man and I am regularly approached by women with little to none sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:16 PM
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Don’t they? I surely do and every old school RP I know puts great pride in offering these things in as high quality as absolutely possible. That is a pretty major part of RP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:10 PM
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It might be where you live, but other places 7 is not average it’s very low
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:49 PM

Anorexic are number 0. Haven’t dated them. I have dated women who earlier in life have had eating disorders. If they needed any support or help from me I would gladly give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:13 PM

All over this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:37 PM

I’d say 90% of the women I’ve dated have been 1, 2 or 3. Some occasional dips in 4. I don’t see any reason I would date differently in 2030
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:35 PM
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The problem is that many men shit on themselves and blame everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:04 PM
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Spot on. Men are their worst enemies when it comes to masculinity. What simps don’t destroy, the BP and the autistic RP wannabes effectively demolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:02 PM
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Is it that low because of religion or obesity? Or maybe something else? I don’t think I know anybody in person who hasn’t a higher bc than 7
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:16 PM
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Stating that women don’t use sex as leverage is probably the stupidest thing ever written in this sub. And that says a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:49 PM
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Men on this board are not representative of the general male population. 16 isn’t high for a woman either. I expect most women I date to have a higher number
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:42 PM
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Tradcons are really just simps with bad taste in clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:37 PM
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Why not wanting both?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:34 PM
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The opposite of a betabux is not a provider. It is an alphafux. Both of them can be providers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:32 PM
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16 for a 22 year old isn’t high. Average age for men losing their virginity here is 17. So 5 years sexually active makes 16 just above three new women a year. That is in no way a large number.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:28 PM

Having fun demands a lot of energy. At some point people want to settle down and enjoy life in a different way. Same for both men and women. The fun part is when this woman gets bored being a traditional wife when she hits her 40s, gets divorced and thinks she can go back to the party life she enjoyed in her 20s. Reality is brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:46 PM

No incel friends. Some virgins but most just normal guys having relationships and sex without being anything special. Friends who are single have considerable more sex than the ones in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:38 PM

Hell no. The only real difference is that back then the dating pool was much smaller. It was locality based. Competition was still tough. The quaterback still could pick and the nerd could only dream about being close to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:07 PM
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For their personality, skills, looks, words, actions, success, status, love, sex, passions, interests, intellect. Just to mention a few things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:34 PM

I disagree. Men are judge by their success. Women for their looks. Women peaks with their looks in their 20s while very few men reach any significant success in their 20s. That is why it is much harder for men in their 20s to date. In the 30s and even more in the 40s the tables have turned and men have it much easier while women are struggling. Men have reached success while women lose their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:30 PM
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RP is not tradcon. I'm red pill and think earlier times suck big time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:22 AM
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You sources are not very informative and only focus on infidelity, and not about satisfaction in marriage or likelyhood of divorce. It is also some very cultural limited research. For example it says men cheat more than women, but in Europe it is actually the opposite. There is plenty of research showing that women are more likely to divorce the higher BC they have. I have seen no similar research regarding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:46 AM
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Baggage and being slutty for having a BC of 16? Damn I must be horrible considering my bc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:53 AM
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You are in charge of how large your pool of options is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:28 AM
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You should read this thread again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:07 PM
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You asked a question and I answered. A woman can’t blame others for who she swipes. Op can’t blame men for who women choose
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:56 PM
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They actively choose who they swipe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:21 PM
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Excellent post Self-esteem plays a huge part of dating. It has a massive effect on not only yourself but also the person you are dating. People with high self-esteem have more success, they feel comfortable and in control of themselves and don’t get stuck in awkward situations. At the same time they have an energy that makes people feel comfortable around them that even raises their self-esteem. The opposite can be said about people with low self-esteem. This stuff is contagious. Another thing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:18 PM
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I don't deny the facts and I believe it will get even worse. But as I said I think there are many reasons for this. Social media, online dating, me-too going out of hand, the body positivity movement etc. But I also think men themselves have some of the blame. Back then there were no "pills" no reddit to complain on or incel communities. But the fact that men competed with each other for the attractive women and women often where the ones who could pick and chose, was the same back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:30 PM
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I do believe men are not making it easier for themselves. The massive damage caused by simps can't be ignored. But even if you take away the simps, the fuckboys and the creeps, there are still a massive amount of men available to any woman. She is still picky and very many women believe they deserve a man way higher up the ladder than she will ever climb.Women should be accountable for their actions, also in the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:22 PM
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There are many reason men are more sexless now than then. My comment was to point out that romantix views of the past rarely holds up. It was damn hard to get laid back then for most men, even though it might be a bit harder now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:07 PM
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​ I think trends like that start because there is a lot of it to begin with. Big butts are trendy in the US because many have big butts. They are not trendy in most of europe where few women have big butts. I used to live in Brazin where it was very trendy for women to have small breast. And most women had small breast to begin with. I think the fatter the US women get, the more trendier it will be with "large" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:45 PM
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If it's relevant, of course. If not relevant it's none of her business just like it's no business of mine to know her location if it's not relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:35 PM
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Take a look in this sub. Many men would take whatever they could get
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:34 PM
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I agree we should not mock people. But I also believe it is ok to be honest and not pretend men with terrible economy are less attractive overall than financial stable men. Just as fat women are less attractive than women who are not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:33 PM
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I said fat, not obese. You are right they aren't obese. But "fat" includes everyone with a BMI higher than 25 and the average american is way over that. The average BMI for an american woman aged 20-29 is 27.9 https://www.livestrong.com/article/141665-the-average-bmi-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:30 PM
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Would you date a dirt poor man or would you prefer a man with financial stability? Not meaning rich, but just has his money in order
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:15 PM
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Getting your shit together means everything. It should be the whole purpose of your life. Why all these excuses just to be lazy and whine about life being hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:13 PM
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Actually the "myth" is and has always been that 100% of women want the top 10% of men. I guess some people cot confused about the percentage. The explanation is that every woman wants the best possible man. We can't really blame them. But that also means that they don't start at the bottom trying to find a good man. They start at the top and take a bet hoping one of the top 10% will pick them. When that doesn't happen they move down even though they never give up hope on cathing one of the top 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:10 PM
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Are you seriously saying that the avergae american woman is not fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:03 PM
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Life is only hell for men who don't get their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:01 PM
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There are several things you forget in that post. First of all men and women are different. That is pretty fundamental in this group. A woman can get away with lots as long as she looks good. She doesn't need wealth, education, status etc. as long as she is fit and has nice looks. Getting fat destroys that. Men have it pretty much the opposite. They can get away with lots as long as they have status, wealth, success. Getting fat does not destroy that. It's really pathetic to see all these excuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:59 PM
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The reason is probably that most women are judged by their looks and men on their success. Obesity rates show the decline of women's attractiveness just at poverty rates would show the decline of men's attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:48 PM
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Work on yourself so you have options on the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:46 PM
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My personal experience is that women want relationships with a man as good as she can get. She might start at the top, but since most women don’t want to end up being lonely living with cats and boxed wine, they lower their standards until they find a man at a realistic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:16 PM
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What’s a myth? That top 10% men with options can’t say no to an obese woman with three kids from two fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:14 PM
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Sure. Just like many men were wearing glasses in 1971
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:12 PM
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I agree. But the guys glued to books back them got just as few women as guys glued to the screen today
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:51 PM
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No. Women want to only date the top 10% men. That does not mean they only date those men. The top 10% men have many options and do not have “I take any woman who wants me” mentality. So there are plenty of woman who date non top 10% men, or else they wouldn’t date at all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:49 PM
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That was before every woman was obese
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:47 PM
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It’s called blue pill and is nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:46 PM
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I'm about the same age as you and I agree things were different. The lack of social media is probably the most significant difference. But back then, ever guy who wanted to get laid didn't drown in options. There were still high quality guys who could pick and many men who struggled just to get a kiss. Then like now social skills were king and the guys who live in front of their screens today, would be living in front of books back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:07 PM
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Sounds like a lousy excuse. There is no causality between the financial development and the possibility to get laid. Yes, My dad bought a house in his 20s. I rented an apartment. But my BC is still 5-6 times higher than my dad's
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:55 PM
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Like a betabox had the choice. The reason he is a betabux in the first place is because he has no options. He is waiting for a post-wall women who will pick him because of his finance and stability. Once she shows up he is happy to only be with her
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:08 AM
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That is exactly what I am saying. RP is much more than a mindset. Saying autistic people can be RP is like saying obese people can be ballet dancers because ballet is not a skill but a mindset. All skills demand a mindset, but with no action, RP will never work. And the actions in RP are very heavilty focused on social skills. Reading between the lines. Picking up signals, Understand situations from other people's views etc. These things are not impossible for autistic persons, but they can be v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:01 PM
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There are many ways and strategies to become a better person. Find the one that fits you and one that has a high chance of success for where you are in life. I feel sad about autists trying to use RP to become better persons. It's pretty much certian to fail
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:19 PM
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​ The most central skill in RP is strong social skills. So..no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:14 PM
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I don't come from wealth. I come from having a high BC and extensive experience with women. So my senses are more about how women are IRL and not how much money daddy will give me. Maybe you should worry less about your wealth and more about actually getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:55 AM
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You seem to be very focused on money. A man who gets older doesn’t just get his finances in order, there is a whole lot other stuff he gets in order. Life experiences actually means something and a guy in his 20s or early 30s usually has very limited life experience. Another mistake you do is to believe that if a woman gets married or gets in a LTR she is off the dating market for life, and the only single women above their 20s are leftovers who never got taken. Roughly 50% of all marriages end …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:07 AM
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I dont know if modern women are wife material or not. I have no plans of getting married so that concept is irrelevant for me. But I do believe that frame is more important today than ever. Many who call themselves RP have no clue what frame is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:47 AM
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Just wait until you peak in your 40s and can easily dip into the 20s, 30s, 40s and even 50s. You will discover that women in their 20s are more attractive than they will be in their 30s and up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:39 PM
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A and have B on the side /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:44 PM
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I do have several now and some of them go way back. Usually it has started as dating but after we found out a romantic relationship wouldn't work, we continued as friends. Some started as just friends but they seem to not last as long. It can be just as fun as male friendships, but never as fullfilling. Women are totally clueless about the male experience and there are so many things they just can't relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:40 PM
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1 Skinny with saggy boobs. Not my type 2 Propotions are totally off Kind of normal Obese 5 Is that a dude? 6 Proportions are off 7 Milk factory
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:31 PM
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I can't speak for TradCons. I find them ridiculous. As a RP I find being submissive is about respect and not about money. And your statement that capitalism prevents fair wages doesn't hold up. Take a trip to the Nordic countries. Why don't I blame society and call for an economic revolution instead of holding people accountable for their words and actions? That should be pretty obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:15 PM
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The obsession is definitaly an american thing. You don't see that here in Scandinavia. But height does make a difference. Women here prefer tall men. Tall as in being a bit taller than she is. The average young man in Scandinavia is above 6 feet (183 cm) So the american obsession about men have to be 6' or taller is a bit laughable. 6' is average Joe here. One should also take into consideration that women here are tall too. So if a woman is 175 cm (5'9, not uncommon at all) a man who is 6 foot …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:05 AM
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Messi isn't representative for footballer when it comes to height. He is a small argentinian. You could also mention Ronaldo, Zlatan, Kane etc. All of them well over 6 feet tall
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:58 AM
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I take it you havn't dating many eastern european women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:55 AM

You got experience. This will happen again and you will handle it easier next time. Don't contact her. Let her initiate and show if she is interested or not. You did your part
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:48 AM

She could have been honest and say the date didn't work out and she wanted to leave. That is the adult and responsible thing to do no matter what gender. If she can't do that, maybe she shouldn't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:39 AM
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Exactly. And when spinning plates you really can't expect the women to only date you (even though most do)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:23 AM
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Or some women have way to high thoughts of themselves. The mindset of "Oh this man can get anyone he wants, I'm 45, obese and have 4 kids with 3 different men. I'm sure he will chose me" is mindblowing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:49 AM
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This comment is gold :D Yes, paying Tinder to see who likes you can be scary. But a great way to find some hidden gems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:47 AM
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Being a man who enjoys spinning plates once in a while I would disagree. When I spin 3-4 women, those women are not mine. They can do whatever they want and be with whoever they want. It is still a part of the dating phase and no exclusivity from either part exists. These women are still in the courting pool available to any who wants to try to seduce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:41 AM
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But a MMA featherweight would get his ass handed to him by a MMA light heavyweight
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:25 AM
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Depends on where you live. Here most women would consider a 5’9 (175 cm) man short
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:20 AM
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Very cultural limited study and not about women in general (even though women in general prefer taller men - or what is considered tall where they live)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:15 AM
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That would mean that there has been a large increase in divorces after social media became a thing. In the country where I live the percentage of marriages ending in divorce has been very stable since the early 80s. (around 45%) so it doesn't seem to have the effect your title proposes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:23 AM
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Not a whole lot difference. The women who live in fear of sexual violence would find something else they would be afraid of. The rest will date and enjoy their life just like they do now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:15 AM

Obsession is always a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:14 PM
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Your advice sounds like old school RP advice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:13 PM
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I believe men put a certain amount (massive) time and energy in finding the right woman. Usually a man would spend all of it on one woman at a time. When spinning plates you spread the same amount on several women. So it’s not more exhausting or demanding. My experience is that it is actually easier. Spinning plates is never a goal. It’s a tool
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:11 PM
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40+ RP here and my experience is that all normal functioning men want a LTR that is monogamous. The difference in RP and BP is how to reach that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:05 PM

“Role model” is a moral social construction that has nothing to do with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:02 PM
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It’s called mental inbreeding and is boring as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:53 PM
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The whole thing is about accountability. A woman wants attentiona and since she can't create attention around herself in the present, she gets desperate and digs out stuff from the past. She should be held accountable for that and we should not even discuss what Hill wrote in a text years ago. That only removes all accountability she has for her choice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:15 PM
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Been a RP for the last 8 years and never seen rules. Lots of advice and warnings, but never rules. Its not an ideolog
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:50 PM
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TRP has no rules
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:41 PM
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I'm a red pill and have been for 7-8 years. A HVW for me is: Succesful and in balance with her self but cool about it. She doesn't need to say to others she is succesful. No needs to show off 2 Agreeable and ready to make compromises in life 3 Either late 20s with with clear opinions on if she wants kids or not, or post danger zone (late 30s early 40s) 4 Minimum a masters degree. What field doesn't matter. She has knowledge and knows how to get more high quality knowledge. Lauren Sanchez looks l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:27 PM
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So basically just a post me-too attention seeker?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:20 PM
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I can't say anything about the approaching since I live a place where it is totally normal and accepted for a woman to approach a man. I've been approached far more by women than I have approached them. But I agree about the rest. Women are attracted to men other women also are attracted to. Spinning plates (dating several women at the same time) and be open about it, makes wonders. You aren't a simp or needy because you simply don't have the time. And when a woman knows she could easily be drop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:15 PM
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WTF? All this fear and victimhood
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:56 PM
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Why does she start this drama now and not when it happened years ago? Really, that is the only question that is interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:37 AM
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The short answer : Yes! The long answer: There unfortunately seems to be a massive msunderstanding when talking about gender dynamics. People tend to mix up the basics and the details. People want romanitc bonding. People want to be in pairs, share their lives with other. Men too. Most men would love to share their life with that one women who makes them feel whole. To be crazy in love. That is very basic and out of the question. Then there are the details on what a man should keep in mind when …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:22 AM
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Religious values has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:12 AM
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Bring something to the table. Just being a woman is not enough. Looks are not enough either, especially if you want a LTR. Have a passion, a hobby something that makes your interesting. Everyone has work/school/kids/chores. Have something that sets you apart from the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:19 AM
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I’m more worried about his hair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:56 AM
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RP = get your shit together and you will have options to choose the woman you want to spend your life with. BP = Just be yourself and someday you will randomly bump into your soulmate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:31 AM
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A vast majority of women have problems respecting a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:14 AM
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Every single time I’ve been in a relationship. I have no problem being emotional, or even crying in front of my woman. And every time that has strengthened our relationship. But there are some things to keep in mind. The problem is not that you as a man show emotion, it’s how you show it. If you go all out of control emotionally and act hysterically, she will be stupid not losing all respect for you. Do it controlled and honest. The other thing to keep in mind is it only works with a good woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:12 AM
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Success
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:50 AM
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It is not society’s job to explain what normal sex is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:49 AM
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I would never date a virgin. Great sex is important for me in a relationship and a virgin will not be great in bed. There are obviously experienced women who are terrible in bed too, but a virgin is always bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:23 AM

Mainly that RP has gone mainstream and anyone can call themselves RP without making any effort. His medium from the start was books long essays and thorough explanations. If you check his podcasts they are often 4 hours long. Not because he talks about irrelevant stuff, but because he is thorough and backs everything up with stats he explains. Young men who are into rp today “don’t have time” for that. They would rather see a 10 min heavy edited episode of F&F where there is a fight and some chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:26 AM
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If that happens there is DNA tests to be taken. If it’s not mine, she, not I, has a problem. Her self worth is pretty irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:11 AM
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What stats? I'm basing it on my expereince. Both from mothers I see and the mother of my kids. I didn't respond to what else you wrote because most of it was irrelevant. You say it yourself, it's difficult and demanding to lose the weight again. That doesn't mean that few do do it. Many people can achive things even if it is difficult. I'm suspecting our different views are based on different cultural background and the view of overweight and obesity where we live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:44 PM

Exactly. My experience with these women, they are all over the place, is that saying NO to them in that situation makes them do one of two things: They stir up shit and false accusations to try to cover that they feel stupid and rejected, or, they run after you begging you to come back. Either way they are not worth spending time on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:09 PM
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Most women I have met or know who have had kids, including the one who have carried and given birth to my kids, has gained weight when pregnant but lost it again after the pregnacy. What you are saying sounds like a bad excuse. Like a woman saying "I was pregnant some years ago so it's OK for me to eat fastfood everyday and stuff my face with snacks and candy."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:05 PM
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From Oxford's dictionary: "Normal = conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:00 PM

Personlity, brains and number of issues is the reason for me. Looks matter, but to be honest, few women will look better int the future than they do now. It ain't getting better. The whole "hold back on sex" to secure long time commitment is seriously the worst advice any woman could get. Not only should she have sex whenever she wants, no decent man would even consider being in a LTR with a woman he hasn't had sex with. If that man has options, she is going to be dumped even before she gets pum…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:54 PM
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I'll say it depends on how much you work. A couple where both work 60-80 hours a week should not get kids. They don't have the time. But a normal 30-40 h a week job still gives a lot of time to raise a family
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:46 PM
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Back then Rollo was enthusiastic about the research in the gender dynamics. That was what made him write several books about this even though he wasn't on the dating market. Now he has become bitter and frustrated because the RP has taken a very wrong turn. I don't blame him, I just don't wan tot listen to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:37 PM
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You forget the historical context and development. Maybe you are too young to remember or maybe weren't interested in it back then, When Rollo wrote the Rational Male in 2013 his target audience wasn't autists. It was average Joe who was frustrated with his lack of success in life. Mainly regarding women, but also about his body, his finance and his social skills. It was a system these average men could use as a help to get their shit together. Back then autism wasn't the big thing it is now. Sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:29 PM
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Sounds very american. I pay sometimes, sometimes the lady pays, sometimes we split. It has no impact on if we have sex later or not. That is based on desire not on who paid the drinks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:56 PM
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I always give up my seat for any woman as well as older men (like retirement old, not boomers). And obviously if someone, man or woman, seems to need it more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:54 PM
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Still it's normal for women to drop that weight after the kid is born. At least where I live
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:52 PM
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I’m not mad I’m questioning the logic in the statement that women haven’t many options when it comes to casual sex. Let me frame it in a different way. I have enough money to buy several new cars. That is an option I have. I don’t need any new cars and I don’t want any new cars, but my financial situation gives me the option to do it. That is a privilege I have. My neighbour lost his job. He can not afford any new cars at all. It doesn’t matter if he wants or needs them, his financial situation …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:16 PM
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Is finding, at some point in your life, one woman who wants to be in a relationship with you, “successful dating”? If yes, then most men are successful daters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:46 PM
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People are really clueless about RP is. How hard is it to do some research before spreading an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:34 PM
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The Red pill started as a reaction against the PUA. PUA is about how you act. RP is about how you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:24 PM
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They are there no matter if you want them /have use for them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:21 PM
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That’s PUA bullshit. Not RP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:33 PM
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People are seriously clueless about what RP is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:32 PM
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They clearly weren’t Red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:31 PM
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The whole point of TRP is to not pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:31 PM
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It is actually the opposite of vague. It’s very well defined and documented
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:29 PM
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Where does the RP encourage that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:28 PM
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Thanks for making your intentions with your original post clear. Your belief that options only exist if you use them, says a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:25 PM
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TRP encourages the opposite. If a woman says no, respect that, get dressed and leave her. Don’t be a simp. If she means yes when she says no, she will be more clear about her intentions next time with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:22 PM
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RP would say “just leave her and find someone else”. Why waste time when you have other options? In RP sex should be based on mutual genuine desire. A woman playing games or a man trying to push his way to sex, has no place in RP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:11 PM
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Red pill is about men getting their shit together, learn to navigate in a world that is very much working against them, and to make the best out of that situation. Manipulating women into having sexual makes no sense in that context. A RP wouldn’t need to manipulate a woman into having sex with him. RP is very unpopular in here. The reason is probably that RP teaches that a man is 100% accountable for his life and, as a part of that, his success with women. It’s demanding as fuck but works. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:08 PM
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The privilege is in the option. Most women have the option to have casual sex. Most men don’t. If women choose not to use that option, that’s her choice. But the option is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:55 PM
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That is no difference between men and women. Most sex with women is underwhelming and many times we curse our testosterone for making us blind to the obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:48 PM
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Another “women are such victims “ post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:34 PM
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Does every red piller in the world have shitty social life and resentment for women? Is that what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:01 AM
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Most red pill men I know are the direct opposite of conservative. Spinning plates isn't exactly a conservative idea, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:36 PM
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I knoow sevarl medical doctors who smoke. Does that mean they aren't qualified as doctors? What a person knows and how a person acts often doesn't fit together. You should seperate the message from the messenger. I do agree that most, almost all, RP influencers are horrible and clearly have their channels to make a buck more than actually making a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:28 PM
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Sounds like a bad excuse. If you have had a bcd family background, get help and move on. Accepting reality is not the best way to avoid pain and suffering. Changing reality is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:23 PM
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Sure, you can be fat and still healthy but 99,9% of fat people are not healthy. Should a man who cares about health take the chance and go for the 0,1% chance or play it safer and go with a non-fat person? ​ I used to be fat. I also use to say all kind of BS like "being fat has nothing to do with health" just to excuse me from doing something about my weight. I'm not fat anymore and my life quality, not only when it comes to dating, has gone through the roof. I don't date fat women because I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:20 PM
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Extremely few men have seduction come naturally to them. Like really extremely few. All those men out there who look like naturals, have spent years working on themselves. Personality is not a fixed thing. It can be changed to exactly what you want it to be. But it takes hard work, patience and the will to take some risks socially. Men who are shy / anxious / socially akward are that because they chose to. Should we demand that the whole world including women, should change to fit these men or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:06 PM
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Do you wish you were living in the 1950s instead of now? Serious question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:57 PM
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You are probably right about that 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:38 PM
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You might want to get the basics down on RP before you call people misogynists. Peak SMV is not the same as prime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:09 PM

Because they end up fat, lonely and misandrist. Meanwhile there are tons of excellent men who can’t find a decent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:05 PM

The thing many women don’t get, is that an average looking woman deserves nothing better than an average looking man. The number of below average or average women out there believing they deserve the top men and won’t “settle for less” is mind blowing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:31 PM
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Obviously a HVM doesn’t need to be in a relationship. But if he chooses to do so, he should respect a woman who expects him to be monogamous. It’s about accountability and respect
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:06 PM
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It’s like those damn computer games. It’s easy to level up in the beginning but damn hard once you reach a high level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:57 AM
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Since when did men start to care about women’s hair, nails and eyelashes? I have a hard time taking this post seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:53 AM
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A HVM also can take responsibility and be faithful if he choses to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 11:04 AM
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I would say pills describe mindset, not a philosophy or even worse an ideology, people use as a crutch. A man who can’t stand up for his own mindset is a loser no matter what he calls himself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:25 AM
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Male parent. I have made it a natural thing when talking to my kid about growing up. I give advice, knowledge, experience and I am comfortable leaving it up to the kid to make good desicions. It obviously is easier when I have raised my child to be responsible and make sound choices in life. I would never monitor or intrude on their personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:04 PM
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I disagree. Women are desired by men with no options, no matter what the women do. There are so many men not setting any standards that what you say could be true. But when we are talking about players, the women will have to make an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:32 PM
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It depends on how you define manipulation. If trying to give an impression about yourself that isn't true, then make-ip and push-up bras are definitaly manipulations. People manipulate all the time. Go to a job interview. You'll never see more manipulation anywhere. I question the whole attitude against manipulation in dating. There is tons of it. That is why you date a person several times. To see who they really are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:29 PM
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There is a massive difference between what a woman is initiatly attracted to and what she wants in a LTR. We are talking about players being approached and there the exotic does play a role. But I agree that when we talk about a LTR a man will have to have his finances in order to have a decent chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:25 PM
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Totally depends on the man and what he does/doesn't do to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:22 PM
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In this case one thing doesn't have to exclude the other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:18 PM
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Men and women are different in many ways. Most women you will meet are not into ONS they want to be emotionally connected to a man before she has sex with him. Men don't have those requirements. Often men would not chose to emotionally invest in a woman he hasn't had sex with. Emotional connection has consequenses. People get hurt. People get dissapointment. Added up people get issues. Few men want women with issues they could have avoided. The risk of a woman having these issues are signifanctl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:06 PM
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Looks definitaly matter. And you don't have to be perfect. Just actually working on your looks takes you far, considering so many men don't do anything about their looks. Social skills matter more. If you are comfortable around women you don't know, it's much easier for a woman to take the risk of approaching you. Both things are something a man in in charge of and can change about himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:00 PM
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I'm a RP and I have a Ph.d :D I agree about the status thing. When it comes to looks and social skills you are in charge of the process in a different way than when it comes to your job and career. But I'm also thinking it might be a cultural thing. In a place where women are uneducating and poor, money probably plays a huge roll. I live in a part of the world where most adults, men and women, have an education and a job that give them at least a good basic living standard. Money plays a smaller…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:52 PM
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So it is "society's fault"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:44 PM
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It what modern part of the world can a woman not divorce? Women even initate most divorces. Authority should be natural, not based on random legal situations
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:24 PM
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I feel sorry for you if you have never met a manipulative women considering how many of them are out there. In the dating scene all people are manipulative even if they chose to do it in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:09 PM
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Maybe the autists should look into what the red pill is about insted of guessing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:02 PM
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That doesn't sound like red pill at all. That is the old-school PUA tactic. Red pill is working on yourself forgetting all about women and when you reach a certain point, women will approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:55 PM
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In the dating scene, who doesn't manipulate? Women wearing make up and push-up bras manipulate. If it is wrong, then it is wrong for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:52 PM
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If I had an award I would give it. This is so true. But what even is a "player"? Is it a man who has many options and lives a life in abundance of women? I think most men would want to be in that situation. And it looks like women tend to favor men who have approval from many other woman. So how can that, objectively speaking, be a bad thing? And I totally agree about becoming a popular man demands a lot of work. I can't highlight this enough. So many men think it's about luck or biology that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:50 PM
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My high bodycount has never been a problem. The experience I have gotten from it has been an huge advantage. And the religious woman thing is a myth. I've met more than a few so calld religious women who say they are saving themselves for the "right man" but after spending some time with them they are more than willing to drop their panties. They are the most likely ones to initiate. Regarding the arguments against, I find it mostly being about envy from men. Women who are agaisnt it usually hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:35 PM
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Women are good at making the best of what they have. Make-up, push-up bras, clothing that complement their body. Men are fucking clueless. And then men say it's unfair? wtf? One thing I would change is what made a massive change in my life: A woman should be a great addition to a man's life, never be the center.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:24 PM
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My experience comes not from talking to female friends, but doing a lot of dating. I personally believe that a woman's actions say a lot more than her words. There is natural masculinity and fake masculinity. Natural masculinity, something all men biologically have if they embrace it, is very important. Fake masculinity is a huge turn-off. Unfortunately many men, expecially younger, are afraid of their masculinity and repress it and any chance. Obviously, if a woman is hanging around those guys,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:18 PM
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I totally agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:12 PM
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Something tells me you have never been in love
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:11 PM
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The opposite could also be true. Hear me out ​ My experience is that most women are attracted to "bad boys". Maybe not junkies and violent men, but definitaly so calld "fuckbois" and men with lots of experience. Even though they are attracted to these men, few women would like to be in a relationship with them. There is a big difference in what women are attracted to and what they want to settle down with. Nothing wrong with that, but as a man you need to know what' going on. When a woman succed…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:09 PM
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Pill thinking??? There are red pill, black, pill, blue pill etc. They are very different from each other and would give very different advice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:59 PM
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Woman shouldn’t give dating advice to men, and men shouldn’t give dating advice to women. They are all clueless about the other gender’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:09 PM
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For simps, yes. They would have no motivation. For the rest the opposite is probably true. No women to distract them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:12 PM
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There a very few of them. Even if you were super hot, there would be more superhot women than super rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:17 AM

Read what I wrote. I’m sure that keeping a kid you got from having sex with a loser, is a way bigger decision if you know you will have to financially support it 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:42 AM
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I would never open up and be that emotional to a woman in the early stages of a relationship. Deep personal stuff demands trust. She will have to earn that and that takes time. But when it’s there I think it’s great to share. Emotional intense people don’t fake it. It’s the energy they send. And it’s possible to be emotionally intense and still keep some stuff for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:39 AM
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Great post. Too bad you got emotional at the end. I’m old enough to remember how dating was before internet. Nothing really has changed. The difference is that the pool has become much bigger. It’s picture based so obviously those seen as beauty objects get more attention than the would have gotten in the old days. But the psychological behaviour is the same. Men see women as beauty objects and women see men as status objects. Personally I have the exact same approach to relationships now as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:29 AM
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Remove child support for a start
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:09 AM
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The word ugly is overused. I think I have seen 3 genuinely ugly people in my life. Where there is no hope. Nothing that can be done. I see a lot of below average looking people, but they could easily move up too average if they did something about themselves. Many who call themselves ugly just need to work on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:07 AM
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Do you know what a masculine man is? Yes. Do you know what a feminine man is? Yes. Do you know what a masculine woman is? Yes. The rest are feminine women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:59 AM

The misandry is strong in this one
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:54 AM

Smart women actually do know how a man is and if it is a serious relationship she also knows how he will be as a dad. Stop whining and take some responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:48 AM

Why would you choose to have a baby with a 20 year old man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:45 AM

Aren’t they responsible about who they have sex with and then decide to keep the baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:42 AM

Take away the child support and see how many single moms there will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:39 AM
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Totally clueless about men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:55 PM
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True. But red flags shouldn’t be dealbreakers. They should be things you are aware of being there and be prepared for them and handle them. When I became single after a 20+ year ltr I wrote down all my red flags. A nice list of about 20 flags. Then I spent a couple of years dating about 100 women. Not a single woman didn’t at least have on e flag from the list. I still dated them and even ended up in relationships. Red flags are good and important if they are used in the right way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:54 PM
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“Babe, am I allowed to watch the game on tv tonight. Maybe I could also drink a beer? Only one, I promise”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:10 PM
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The funny thing is that older women are far more easier to date than younger, simply because these women have far less options. Still men prefer younger women. So she really matters. With the career thing, it depends on if a woman can handle both having a career and being in a relationship. My experience is that few can. They will treat their relationship as some project and boss the man around like she bosses people at work around. Few men like to be bossed around so why even take the chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:00 PM
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What a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:39 PM
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Still feminism builds its ideology on these philosophers. Feminism will die. It will kill itself. It has become too mainstream and feminists are trying to push it to absurdity. While there are women in the world that actually are treated like cattle, feminists are more occupied fighting for their right to have body hair. It also shows the massive racial and socioeconomic problems in feminism. They only care about white upper class women’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:04 PM
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No the ones brought about by Greek philosophers 2000 years before feminism became a thing. Please, tell me feminism isn’t the reason you don’t know basic history
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:33 PM
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Both genders should focus more on themselves and not be so obsessed on the other. For women it’s about accountability. To take accountability for her own words and actions and not blame it on men, the patriarchy, society or what else. For men, stop being simps. Stop being incels. Get your lives together and don’t blame women all the time by saying “women want men to be like this” or “no woman will love me so I can be a lazy loser”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:30 PM
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Living outside the US, this makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:23 PM
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Are you aware of some things called human rights and civil rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:57 PM
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The good things in feminism are already covered in human rights and civil rights. What is unique in feminism is the bad stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:51 PM
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I’m guessing both of those women are now old, fat and miserable farming karma at the relationship advice sub
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:12 PM
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A woman who thinks it’s a great idea to sell pictures of her asshole for $2 on internet doesn’t come off as being a woman I would spend my life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:01 PM

Was married to one for 22 years. I have a mother and several sisters. I have daughters. I have a three digit notch count. Drop the simp attitude and see who women really are. Your life will become easier and women will like you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:55 PM
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Most women I know don’t like ONS. They don’t like sex with total strangers. For them to have sex with a man, there has to be some emotional connection. When it’s there and they do have sex, there is a little hope that it will evolve to something more. As said before, they don’t want ONS. When things don’t evolve the emotional investment they made has been wasted. This creates some emotional damage. Usually very small, like disappointment or frustration. Nothing wrong with that and totally normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:33 PM

Simps love that stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:21 PM
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Men live a shorter time than women. That alone questions your arguments. Then add suicide rates, work related injuries, wars to the equation and the picture looks very different
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:53 AM
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So believing a young fertile and fit woman is a better catch than an old dried up obese woman is having a broken brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:55 AM
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He has become a parody of himself. But yes, read the book. Even if you might not agree with what is written, you'll get a very good understanding about what the red pill (before it became a question about supporting Andrew Tate or not) is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:51 AM
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Not where I live
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:44 AM
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Yes, that is the guy. Pretty sad story to be honest. He got cought up in his 20s and ever since he has tried to convince everyone, including himself, that he is doing the right thing. Now he is in a serious midlife crisis, partying with strippers and hoes in Vegas and the only real content he shares is bitterness over life. He didn't handle the RP transfering from books and obscure internetforums to mainstream influencers very well. But his books, especially the first of the series, are still br…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:59 AM
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The funny thing is that the men who don't treat them special are actually the ones getting laid. Men are fantastic at destroying their own chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure SMV originally comes from Rollo Tomasi's book The Rational Male. SMV builds on a foundation from the term Sexual capital that has been around in sociology for the last 30 years. The idea of Sexual Capital builds on the ideas of Bourdieu who created the idea of social capital in the 70s and 80s So it's been around for a while in different forms and shapes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:18 AM

I’m red polled and I’ve dated about 50 women within the last two years. I have been attracted to every single one of them. Why would I date them if I wasn’t? None of them were interested in being in a “traditional gender role”. That thing doesn’t even exist here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:19 AM

I would disagree. At least if we by RP mean the original RP ideas before it all became this influencer driven online monster. Few countries are as femicentric as the Nordic countries. Nordic men are actively raised to be simps. Any form of masculinity is frowned upon, most of all by men. I’ve traveled a lot in my 40+ years and never have I seen more confused young men when it comes to their identity and sexuality as I do here in the Nordics. If a Nordic man adapts the RP he will stand out in so …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:15 AM

Exactly. My first dates have always been a couple of drinks (beer/whine/coffee). I pay the first round she pays the second. Very natural. The good thing is that the time it takes to drink two drinks is enough to figure out if I’m interested in the woman and if she is interested in me. If yes, then we can move on. If not it’s easy for both to say thanks and leave with the rest of the evening free. Imagine being stuck at a dinner table or at some big activity and things aren’t working out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:56 PM
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Sounds like you are trying to avoid women being accountable for their actions. If one parter leaves the relationship is over. That’s the definition of the word leave. Sure, there can be many reasons that led to a woman leaving. Lots of bad relationships exist and have not ended even though things are really bad. You can’t say a relationship only exists if it’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:44 PM
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Simping is the true toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:33 PM
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I live in a part of the world where it’s totally normal and acceptable that a woman makes the first move. It changes the situation in many ways. One obvious way is that if a woman is interested in a man, she can’t just sit and look pretty and wait for him approaching her. He will be busy talking to other women who have approached him. She will have to make a move and approach him. In those situations her social skills are massively important if she is going to have any chance. I agree with you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:31 PM

I think few men give a shit if a woman has a career or not. What does count though is issues. Older women tend to have a lot more of them. Then there might also be some other man’s / men’s children in the picture. Add to that the fact that younger women are more attractive, fitter, tighter etc. I really can’t blame a man preferring younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:46 PM

I would say the opposite. My experience is that older women nag more, have way more and bigger issues (that shit stacks up) and their age creates, at least when it comes to dating, a lot of insecurities in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:41 PM
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RP is a praxeology. It is made to be adapted to whatever situation a redpiller lives in. It's not a complete finished system that has to be either accepted at full or rejected. I know lots of men who call themselves redpill don't get that. A Redpiller in Scandinavia would have to adapt to that it is totally normal to split a date bill. Also that it is very common that women approach men. That womens bodycount it usually high. And the whole "traditional conservative women" concept is just laughab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:06 AM
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I'm old enough to have been dating in "the old days" before Tinder and what else. It was the exactly the same. Average men didn't stand a chance against the tall, fit and successful men. The difference now is the pool of dating candidates is much bigger. But what women chose is still the same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:40 AM
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There is this strange belief that succesfully dating comes by itself in some magic way. "Just be yourself", "just find a woman who matches your personality" is all rubbish. Sure, some might be lucky and find a woman, but there won't be many choices and far between them. The same goes for the opposite. Men who believe they will never find a woman and just give up. In my eyes these guys are lazy and spoiled. Succesful dating takes practice. It takes skills. I'm not talking about PUA skills but soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:46 PM
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Don't be a normal guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:24 PM
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For millions of years men and woman have used body language. Because it works. It's only in the few last years the whole verbal consent thing has become a thing. It's a phase. Soon people will go back to being horny and perfectly fine showing it to eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:16 AM

No hobbies. If she has no life outside work, kids and house, she will eventually treat you as a part of a project.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:35 AM
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I agree. Even though some of the points are not modern but been around for a long time. At least here in Europe. Many here talk about equality. Equality is a myth. In every relation, friendship or relationship, there will be a part who is more dominating or in charge. The difference can be very small, but it is there.I think the big difference in modern and traditional men are that the modern man is fine having the woman be the dominating part. The "happy wife happy life" type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:33 AM

I've never met an american who wasn't obese. Does that mean all americans are obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:19 AM

I take it you are into social constructivism and don't believe in biological, horomonic and emotional differences between men and woman. It's a blank slate and we can be, fell and do whatever we feel like for the moment with no consequenses? I'm a wrong? Most, if not all women I know see sex as more than just entertainment. Before they would even consider having sex with a man, they want to feel safe and secure, there has to be some level of trust. For them sex is very often intimate. And even i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:17 AM

Would you think it would be ok if I publicly humiliated a overweight ugly woman who has no reason hitting on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:12 AM

Exactly my view too. Last year I dated massively. The youngest was 21 the oldest 54. My experience was that women in their 20s are insecure, too much energy going in all directions, bad sex and really there wasn't much in common between me and them. Women in their 30s. Danger zone. Baby rabies. Spoiled kids from other men. They will, sooner or later try to breed on you. Women in their 40s and 50s. Now we are talking. The have their lives in order. Few insecurites, Good sex. They want to enjoy li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:11 AM

The problem here is that a great part of the RP believe that the highest wish for every man is to get as many kids as possible. If that was true, then a man in his 40s or older won't have many chances achiving that while dating women his own age. But how many men at that age, really want more kids? But the age gap usually is about what women want. And what options men have at what stage in life. I'm mid 40s and have no problem getting interest from a woman in her early 20s. But it's the same wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:05 AM

How do you define a "sucessful marriage"? That it doesn't end in divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:53 AM

Excellent post I believe it is because people, generally speaking, don't do much about their looks. They will rather blame society, shaming and demand that they should be not only accepted, but found attractive, for "who they are". Just one big lie we are telling ourselves. Combined with laziness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:51 AM
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If initiating a relationship is taking the first steps from casual dating to the next level and being exclusive, I would say it is pretty common. All my relationships have been intiated that way by women and I have also experienced situations where the woman tried but I said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:47 AM

I have the exact opposite view. If a woman is very outgoing, very chatty, very active on social media, my experience is that she is probably trying to hide a full forrest of issues and red flags. A woman who doesn't need that attention, usually has her shit together
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:42 AM

They mean that they (the women) are young and inexperienced
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:40 AM
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Nature has defined it very clearly. Same goes with femininity. That we have spent decades trying to redefine it doesn't change what masculinity/feminity is and that we all find it very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:34 AM
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Slutshaming is mostly women shaming other women and then blaming the men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:32 AM

The problem is when some believe it's ok to change their mind afterwards because things didn't go as they intended. For example: Man and woman agree to have sex for the fun of it. No expectations for more, emotions or that it would evolve to anything, The agree it is casual sex and agree about the defintion of the term. They have sex, the woman gets emotionally attached. The man moves on. The woman now believes it was not casual sex at all and the man is an asshole who has taken advantage of her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:30 AM
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Might not be the guy the woman wants, but yes she can
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:03 AM
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When the women "hit the wall"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:02 AM
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You've got to set some rules for yourself. I was activily spinning 3-4 plates continously for over a year. Dropped some, added some, but always dating 3-4 women at the same time. Super easy and effective. Also helped me figured out what I wanted and when I found what I wanted there was no problem focusing on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:01 AM
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Spinning plates does not take a lot of time and ressources. Compared to focusing at one woman at the time, spinning plates takes much less. And it is much more effective, both when it comes to keeping a woman's interest and figuring out what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:59 AM
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You may leave at any time too. In a relationship with two "high quality" (I hate that expression) people there is always a risk one will leave and easily find someone else. Not taking eachother for granted is a good thing in a relationship. You are totally right if we are talking about all the men out there who can't just leave and find someone else. They should get their shit together. No. You look like you've got your shit together and don't have to run around. It also shows that even though y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:52 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you want two things: 1. Being "yourself", meaning being confident, being the way you already are etc. and 2. Being attractive. None of these things are static. There are many ways to feel confident and being oneself, and there is many ways to be attractive. The combination you have found doesn't work. But who says that is the only combination? Do you think the way you are now, is the only way you can be confident? Changing one's personality is definita…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 09:36 AM
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One of the first things I learned back when I discovered TRP (probably in one of Rollo's books) was that porn was bad. Instant gratification with no effort was something to be avoided.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/22 01:39 AM
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Not my experience. I'm in my 40 and never been more approached by women than now. But I do agree about the quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:43 PM
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My experience is that brains actually work better than wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:41 PM
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