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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 07:50 PM
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Question for BluePillReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 12:40 PM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:01 PM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:07 PM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 01:26 AM
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ScienceReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:54 AM
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ScienceReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:58 AM
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Question for BluePillReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:55 AM
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DebateReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 12:34 AM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:35 PM
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ReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 01:53 PM
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Question for BluePillReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 12:24 PM
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CMVReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 03:50 PM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:54 AM
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DebateReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 12:07 AM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 10:11 PM
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Question for BluePillReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:09 PM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:38 PM
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DiscussionReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 03:17 AM
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Question for BluePillReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 04:10 PM
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Question for BluePillReddishBlack/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 10:06 PM
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TBP is simple virtue signalling TRP goes against the prevailing moral narrative, oppose it and you appear virtuous to your chosen peers. You reinforce the prevailing moral narrative, and get to feel the fuzzies from having done a good thing within the cool structure. Speaking with BPers is puzzling to me. It isn't important that they change their minds. They have no new info to give you that you haven't already heard from the prevailing narrative. All you are doing is entering their reality and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 01:46 PM
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I'd rather be permanently celebate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 07:33 PM
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Which stats
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:16 PM
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Attack on his character is not a counter to his argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 12:52 PM
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Many of us support the police in these situations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 04:21 AM
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Ben Shapiro's talk which he gave at Mizzou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRqpXL8TxiU
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 04:20 AM
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If you compare the required enforcement against the black community to the amount of crime they perpetrate, they suffer police inflicted violence less often than other races committing the same offences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 05:32 PM
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Might have come from here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:10 AM
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They have to demonstrate logic for the argument to be debunked logically False. Poor logic is just as susceptible to philosophical criticism as any argument. That is not at all what I have claimed anywhere on this thread. Only that it justifies questioning it. If our standard of criticism is only prompted by the things that we find emotionally troublesome, a lot of bad ideas are going to slide past the goalie. You will be in the habit of not questioning bad arguments that make you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 09:56 PM
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None of those objections absolves a critic of having to contend with the logic behind the argument, if you are looking to produce a serious criticism. You are trying to make the claim that emotion alone justifies calling an argument false, which is one of the most basic fallacies in all of Philosophy. This is not up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 06:18 PM
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An objection to the emotions behind an argument is not an objection to the logic behind it. Just because emotion can make an argument bad, does not guarantee it. In order to object to TRP with legitimacy, you will have to show specifically where their logic is unsound as a result of their anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:09 PM
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Fear silences coward tongues
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 04:19 PM
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The insight is that if protesters against rape culture were legitimately concerned with justice for all people, then they would be sympathetic towards other similar injustices. In practice, not only are they unconcerned with injustice towards males that women potentially benefit from, they actively censor and shame any group that would suggest that this is the case. Therefor, it becomes obvious that protesters against Rape Culture are not concerned with justice for all, but rather special powers…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 04:16 PM
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If I were to believe the standards by which we are judged to be living in a Rape Culture, then rape includes forces that are beyond the act of violent rape, such as coersion into sexual acts through psychological force. I'm starting to think the actual problem here is that you don't understand how horrific the crime of rape is to those who have endured it. You are guilty of underestimating the severity of going to prison. Loss of employment, exposure to violence is virtually guaranteed, and your…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 04:01 PM
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Moral assertions require empathy to understand, so I can understand your difficulty with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:33 AM
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That roadblock is manned by cowards. Their resistance is not a deterrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:32 AM
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Straw man arguments are "sloppy" argumentation, you are being a hypocrite. I did not once call alimony rape, I equated them both as being forms of a loss of bodily autonomy. If you refuse to pay alimony, you are imprisoned, thus you are forced to give up your money in order to have this not happen. You actively lose your autonomy either way, either through forcible imprisonment, or proxy slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:25 AM
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If there is no loss of bodily autonomy, then what are the consequences of refusing to pay alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 04:04 AM
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It is a mistake to enter into a marriage that fails, but if we were able to know that we would not sign the contract. The punishment, which equates to doing labor for years as a sort of proxy slave, does not fit the crime of entering into a contract with the naive expectation that love is guaranteed to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 11:16 PM
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Authority and popularity does not mean we ought to accept these things if they are blatantly hypocritical. They most be spoken against over and over again until the injustice is resolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 11:01 PM
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I'm not your tutor, the argument is there for you to read
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 11:00 PM
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I don't see why you think sex is special in this regard. We understand what we are agreeing to when we decide to get naked with another person and all that it entails. If you do not understand this, you should be considered unprepared to have sex, and any consequences that arise from that should be the responsibility of the person that was engaging unpreparedly in sexual acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:49 PM
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Utilitarianism falls to your argument about not being able to make perfect judgments though. You can't predict the consequences of acts with perfect accuracy, therefor you can't make perfect utility calculations. I'm not saying Consequentialism is false, it just suffers from some of the same issues as Kantian ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:37 PM
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I never claimed Rape Culture is a sound theory, just the consequences of believing in that theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:34 PM
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I'm suggesting if your are against one, you ought to be against both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:32 PM
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You are congratulating yourself prematurely. Alimony is not child support, so your objection does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:31 PM
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We still have to make moral judgements as a society, or else we would not intervene against any criminal acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 09:03 PM
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That's fine, but stating an opinion isn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:06 PM
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I agree that the class divide in morals is a huge issue, but wanted to highlight something analogous to Rape Culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:05 PM
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Anyone wishing to make a serious argument should be aware of the inadmissible nature of single event anecdotal evidence when trying to convince others in a scientific way of a claim. That being said, you can use that anecdote as a starting point to guide your investigation, or in presenting a theory, just don't use it to make a definitive claim about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 01:04 AM
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I can bite on red herrings all day and it wouldn't mean anything. Your analogy is not applicable to my question, as consensual sex is not forcible rape. The priest and young boys argument seems to advocate sexual activity is potentially mentally damaging. By that logic, a young woman participating in sexual acts is potentially mentally damaging. Therefor, if a woman has a promiscuous past, especially when younger, she is potentially mentally damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:56 PM
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Nope, because teenage boys generally want sex with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:05 PM
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One thing I don't get about aversion to sex with sixteen year olds is that if being a whore doesn't damage you in any way, then why are they said to be too young to make such make such important decisions? If having massive amounts of sex does not effect you mentally in any way, then you should be able to do it at any age. However, if it does have the ability to mess you up, then having lots of irresponsible sex must be mentally damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:41 PM
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I'd like to, but hypergamy is the piss in the punch bowl that kills it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 01:49 PM
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The sexbot does not fulfill the most fundamental urge behind sexual motivation, the need for authentic social validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 02:17 PM
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Just lol Being celibate and spending your days orbiting someone you find hot is like being a disgusting starving hobo gawking into a steakhouse dreaming to be invited in The owner hands him a squeegee and will extract as much free labor out of the fool until he quits in despair, as the diners laugh, "Look at that pathetic hobo thinking that he will ever be allowed to eat in here!", savoring the meat with enhanced smugness. No one wants that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 12:55 AM
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Owen focuses heavily on self esteem development and having positive interactions with people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 09:34 PM
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Normies unfit to guide aspies Ascended aspies should do this Thus trp
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 12:03 PM
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TRP's main claim is that women are hypergamous. Let's pretend though that they do claim women are overly emotional as well. Most people who are excessively emotional tend to do so towards the negative side of the spectrum. Besides a masochist with zero respect for themselves, no one enjoys the company of someone that is nagging them, nitpicking their flaws, complaining about their problems, gossiping about people that they dislike, or refusing to listen to reason because their emotions are too o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:54 AM
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That's odd, I've never seen you refrain from commenting due to lack of information before
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 11:06 PM
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In parts of Africa, where there is an abundance of black leaders, has this made the black population more or less happy as a result?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:32 PM
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Have you done /r/thebluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:55 PM
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The more I read these forums, the less happy I get
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:10 AM
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I recognize your art style from your other channel lol
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 12:11 AM
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I believe that there are very few hidden realities in this world. I don't know what is more concerning, this statement, or the upvotes next to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:00 AM
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In regards to gender realism, I don't believe anyone has exited the cave as of yet, but have given fairly good inferences as to what the shadows could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 01:53 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Plato has Socrates describe a gathering of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave all of their lives, facing a blank wall. The people watch shadows projected on the wall from things passing in front of a fire behind them, and they begin to give names to these shadows. The shadows are as close as the prisoners get to viewing reality. He then explains how the philosopher is like a prisoner who is freed from the cave and comes to under…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:47 PM
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It's bizarre that you frame things in relation to social group dynamics rather than the pursuit of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 01:20 PM
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If I could flip a switch in my latent urges to be aroused by the sight of homely women, I would still choose celibacy. In all seriousness though, we cant decide what arouses us without drastic mental olympics, no more than we can decide that we are not hungry, or to make our heart stop beating. It is part of a system that is outside of the realm of the conscious process. All we can decide is how we manage and react to our urges through our rational minds, but we cannot conjure desire out of noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 07:01 PM
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Historically, women had a limited pool of men to choose from in her locale, a modern woman now has her options increased exponentially by technology. We are living in a climate of condensed hypergamy. I am not morally opposed to this, but there are consequences that are developing as a result. For each woman that chooses to become part of a harem, or hookup culture, that is one male that will have to enter that culture to pursue intimacy. This culture is a ruthless meritocracy, that is pitiless …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 06:48 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 02:53 PM
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Anonymous forums are the best places to enjoy Machiavellian games such as trolling, even you have a fascination with the pathology or else you wouldn't make a topic on it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 02:28 PM
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It would be almost as absurd as treating a 20 question test as some sort of serious endeavor
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 02:24 PM
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A real Mach would post a low score to enable more efficient manipulations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 11:25 AM
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If you read How the Mind Works, by Steven Pinker (chapter 7), he states that marriage was a deal between powerful and lesser males to prevent the lesser men from revolting and conspiring to kill them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 03:08 AM
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Normie REEEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 11:33 AM
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That is not true, you can still give girls rides to Chad's house
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 11:31 AM
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Cool, this is like a blue piller anger phase post from the female side
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 11:27 AM
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Unfortunately my partner had no spirit for it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 12:06 PM
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K ill be woman, you be man. The catch is you are mediocre in appearance. Um, hello
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 03:41 AM
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If exposure means going to school, then most people get the opportunity for education. If you don't define what exposure means then no one will be able to fairly critique your argument, and can insert their own meaning. How "scientific" it is, is of little consequence. I am thankful to live in a society that does not agree with that sentiment. And I didn't say it was impossible to quantify, just difficult, like most social factors. Difficult, undefined, yet you are a claim as to how reality is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 10:25 PM
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So you are saying the jocks were incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:48 PM
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Do you realize that you sound like a brainwashed person from Nazi Germany or any other totalitarian regime that uses propaganda to justify the abuse of others
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:35 PM
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If a claim can't be quantified, then it is unfalsifiable, and is not scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:09 PM
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Ethical philosophy is much more advanced than truth vs utility. Virtue ethics and deontology give more satisfying answers than just utilitarianism alone, and can be easily understood by reading about them on the Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:06 PM
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Take exposure %, add to poverty %, divide by two. Compare to prison population %.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:30 PM
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Anecdotes and sentiment are not scientific though. If we want the real answer, cross reference the percentage of black males living in poverty, that should be equal to the percentage of black males in prison. If it is not equal, than poverty is not the entire story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:34 PM
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Bailey Jay xD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:21 PM
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Marv game confirmed legit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:18 PM
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You don't know that for certain
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:02 PM
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Often times, even the most successful products appeal to only 40% of the market, so even though the alpha male archetype suits the taste of many, we must account for the demand for comfort males, artistic males, and other success stories as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 12:58 PM
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Men don't agonize about silly details unless they are mentally atypical in some way. If we can sex without extreme nausea, misery, or legal repercussions, that is all that is needed for the relationship to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 01:06 AM
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Have you women ever been complacent in rejecting a suitor because he was providing you with valuable gifts and services
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 12:23 AM
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You may be the experienced captain it takes from keeping this vessel from a watery fate. If that fails, you know what to do if the crazy starts to show.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:34 PM
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She's generally very affectionate with me. We have good sex but not every time we see each other. I'm personally fine with that. She pointed out something I hadn't thought of before: if you don't expect sex every time you see each other, it allows the sexual tension to build up so when you do have sex it's very passionate. That's been my experience so far. H E R P E S What seems to be the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 08:23 PM
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Beats the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 02:18 AM
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Depends on the type of ethics you choose to use in the situation. A utilitarian could argue that the pain caused through the breakup may be greater to your partner and children and choose to stay in partnership, as my brother does, for the net good is greater than the suffering he is undergoing. Under virtue ethics, you can decide that to flourish as an individual is of greater importance than the pain caused to your partner, who is displaying characteristics of vice such as selfishness and code…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 10:58 PM
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We bribe them with a meal; give them admission to a show. So that we may please them as an audience, in hopes they applaud us with their end. As glorious the costume, triumphant the display, make no mistake whence comes the value, the reason for the play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 02:47 PM
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Not all humans possess the same mind. To some, being "edgy" is funny, mostly younger people. Beyond humor, being edgy is a defensive mechanism against sensitive people who ruin the climate of the social environment with the demand for censorship. Men who have no taste for that sort of social group will agree with you, and think the crass group is immoral. There is a meta-ethical tint to this line of reasoning. A person with a taste for the social cohesion of everyone comes into conflict with a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 03:11 PM
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Some fucker is gonna go ER first week, skip the guns
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:58 PM
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I don't know which women the incels are being rejected by. I myself am fortunate enough that women I find attractive treat me like a man and are flirtatious. This dignity is not enjoyed by the incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:59 PM
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It does not matter whether their ideas are just, deluded, or false. What matters is they exist, they are a problem, and they need to be dealt with in a way that is not being attempted as of now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:57 PM
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The feeling of powerlessness when all woman disdain you, and having no idea to fix it, drives men to madness. In isolation and despair, what is a shooting when you already believe you are the lowest a human being can get. A moment of power, of revenge, becomes a more seductive thought to them than the idea of wasting away in shame for decades to come.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:54 PM
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I believe the common thread is lost young man, a hostile culture, and no outlet for relief, resulting in eruptions of violence such as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:11 PM
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It is a symptom of a sickness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:10 PM
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Awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:08 PM
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/11966/20140803/testosterone-level-decrease-led-to-humans-being-nicer-and-more-civilized.htm Researchers writing in Current Anthropology say a study of more than 1,400 skulls, both ancient and modern, suggests cultural shifts bringing advances in human society began at about the time when skulls showed evidence of lowering levels of the hormone. etcetera
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:37 AM
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If there are no cohesive male interests, then patriarchy is impossible. Men as a group have a common urge. Masculinity is the character and expression of those urges. When I make an assertive sexual advance, when I participate in criticism and open defiance of progressives that assume to have authority over me, I am expressing my masculine urge of autonomy. These things are under attack by modern feminism. I don't welcome the unsolicited advice of feminists as to how I ought to treat them, nor t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:38 PM
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Catcall crew checking in. Their reactions are hilarious. I think I made one mom's life with a wolf whistle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:45 PM
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Haha. The type of man that rapes and murders will not be effected by a course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:43 PM
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My mother would never make such a fallacious argument
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:04 PM
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I don't care what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:22 PM
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Reading books is weird because you don't know the author. Going to university is weird because the professor is a stranger. If I just listened to only the people I know in life I would be a drunken, religious zealot, con artist, paedophile, hippy, convicted rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:35 PM
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A woman showing usage of logic and empathy.. I am going to have to exit the internet for today, as my world view has been disturbed to its very core and I must reevaluate everything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:39 AM
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Roid Tat Tan game or death buddy boy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:44 AM
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You don't need to explain yourself. Women that look sexy are sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 11:48 PM
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No worries. I'm sure if someone told the truth in a tavern they would have to shut the doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 08:34 PM
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It's worse than I thought, even your bowels are against my people. You're in luck, cause I can drink for two, and have no ride home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 08:25 PM
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You got something against the Irish?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 07:56 PM
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It would be helpful to google psychological framing here. As an example say you and a seductive target reach an ambiguous point in a conversation that would normally create negative tension. Woman: "I don't date short men." The male is 5'6''. The veiled language here is an attempt to create the "framing" that you are not worthy of her because of your height. The male will make a choice here, and he will make it subconsciously if he is uneducated in social dynamics. If he is insecure, he will acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 05:11 PM
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I've progressed in my sociopath tree to such a level that I am indistinguishable from a normie
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 12:53 AM
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Men are obligated to display value in areas beyond aesthetics. Ask a female for her ideal mate requirements, and ask a male, you will understand why male attractiveness is not a simple thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 01:22 PM
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Ah but I used the word catalyst, which means a person or thing that precipitates an event or change, which does not necessarily have to be in support of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 01:46 AM
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They've made some ignorant extrapolations, but the catalyst has been works from David M Buss, The Red Queen, and Sex at Dawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:28 PM
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Their entire subreddit is based on the work of psychologists though, how does that confer hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:15 PM
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I'm fine at this point, after some work. Are you speaking from the male or female perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:24 PM
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People are known to communicate in two distinct ways beyond the obvious meaning of their words. Body language in flirting is essential. Eye contact and the responses that arise from it are important to be aware of. I am not going to write an article on these subjects as google will do a better job of explaining it than I can. The second layer of communication is veiled language, as described by Steven Pinker. Almost all forms of communication can be packaged into a shroud of euphemism that must …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:35 PM
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In retrospect it has been my blunders in the social arena that have killed flirtations, rather than my 6/10 looks. I've been eagerly approached just to watch the enthusiasm drain from her eyes as she is stricken with the reality of my manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:40 AM
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Both sides, you and the people you speak with, make valid points. They aren't familiar with evo psych based philosophy though so you are somewhat blindsiding them, which is not in the spirit of generous debate. They are correct about beliefs manifesting your experience of the world, you are overladen with ruminative ideologies to the point of social dysfunction. I'd prescribe forgetting about the debate, going on an information diet, and engage with the world with the attitude of disproving your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 03:00 PM
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That person first has to consider the possibility that they are wrong about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 08:24 PM
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Besides the basic physical maintenance routines, I've noticed is the following: The ability to connect with people gets results. The beliefs that you have about yourself, such as, I am attractive, I am interesting, I am worthy, have a massive impact on how people respond to you. You are always creating a self image in your mind and are updating it constantly. Think about it right now. There are qualities that you believe define you, and other ones that can never be you. A powerful realization is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 03:31 PM
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I also suspect that it leads to a less healthy life for the community and the individuals in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:42 PM
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I admire the traditional family values that ethnic people have. The old take financial and supportive steps to try and ensure their children are successful. There is a side effect of this culture that does not mesh with our western values though. Our culture is harsh and individualistic. The family is a novelty next to our other interests, rather than central to our way of life. As such, when you appeal to us with your problems as if they were ours, it is distasteful to our western attitudes. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:34 PM
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Lifting, basketball, carpentry No association
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:22 PM
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Sentence 1, Archwinger is abusive. Sentence 2, slurs Xemnas for having Aspergers. You deserve a perma ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 07:17 PM
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Debate is contention in argument; strife, dissension, quarrelling, controversy; especially a formal discussion of subjects before a public assembly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 01:37 PM
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In group/out group dynamics. The group that the person is part of is considered good, just, and deserving of compassion and reverence. The out group is considered not human like they are, and a narrative is constructed around that dynamic designed to protect against the "threat" of the out group. TRP does this with women, while TBP does this with TRPers. Read up on it, it is pretty much the basis of the majority of the lack of empathy between the groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 12:51 PM
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The idea that a human adult cannot mature is such blatent antihuman propaganda that it isn't worth the effort of debate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 11:34 AM
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You have a ruminative mind. Give it better material to obsess over and you can learn much greater things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:12 AM
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Maybe you ought to stop framing everything through the lens of what TRP says, and find a more generous philosopy to concern yourself with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:01 AM
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If you are concerned about being a mentally immature, entitled person that people hate, take the proper precautions to avoid such an outcome and I assure you that you will succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:58 AM
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There is also a link to men and women's individual attraction to masculine v. feminine facial features based on the health and stability of the country they are in. Probably has something to do with the r/K selection criteria. Stemming from the video: Do you believe that modern Western societies have many non-ideal features given that we spent the majority of our evolution in small hunter-gatherer bands? Yes, but I also believe that our evolution is full of adaptations that contradict our ration…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:22 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:02 PM
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You went into an echo chamber, you are not entitled to disagreement
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:41 PM
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No. I can call the sky grey, and you can insist that it is blue, all that means is that the sky is sometimes grey and sometimes blue. What some people do is to try and say the sky is a technicolor checkerboard filled with dancing elves, which is always a false statement. There are limited colors that the sky can be, and some colors that it can never be, and would be nonsense to claim otherwise. Thus, there is an objective reality to the pallet from which we can choose, even though there are vari…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:42 PM
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The problem is, objectively speaking, morality doesn't exist. The only thing more troubling than the ignorance of that statement is the popularity of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 09:02 PM
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All language is a human invention designed to communicate a concept buddy boy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 01:41 AM
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Dawww
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:00 PM
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There's actually a word for this in the asexual community: demisexual. As you describe, in absence of a partner the meets their high standards, the person will regress into asexuality until they meet someone that turns them on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 03:42 PM
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Game is an act of attraction engineering. Since dimorphism effects attraction criteria, female game would be an engineering of male preferred traits. You can infer the specifics based on this criteria. In short, effective tactics would be sex specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 08:38 PM
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The most ironic thing is that I was less racist before reading Indian/ Asian males repeatedly bemoan their own racial shortcomings. They are being their own worst press, and I have to take a step back whenever I read one of their posts and think of positive things about them and their culture so I don't become engulfed in their racist self loathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 08:28 PM
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Yeah but at most those subs would account for single digit percentage of the subscriber base
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 08:22 PM
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You are speaking from your experience as a young man I presume
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 02:30 PM
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Cause part of being a young man is rage and vitriol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 01:51 PM
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As bad as I feel for his sexual situation, he is going to have to find another way to enjoy his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:37 AM
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There are no words that you will find on the internet that will bring about change in your life. First you are reading niche material created by amateurs, with no critical review process, and are accepting it as truth. Meanwhile, the evolutionary psychologists that have created the material that TRP is based upon would laugh at the futility and dehumanizing farce that it has become. If you must read something, read David M Buss, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and absorb their take o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 09:54 PM
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Also, they divide people into unequal groups such as alpha, beta, omega, AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:48 AM
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arent you always making redpill arguments, where is this racial preference is cultural stuff coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 01:28 AM
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The number one attraction killer for me is not having a sense of humor, especially about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:08 PM
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"Science" is my favorite discussion tag
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 08:19 PM
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He has strong dimorphism in his speech, temperament, and hairiness, even though he is not conventionally handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 12:03 PM
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I don't get excited about any certain people when I see that they posted, but rather high effort stuff like that philosophical critique of TRP's amoral logic the other day. To me TRP has too many edgelords that aren't interested in challenging their position, while TBP is the same besides their temperament of nitpicking arbitrary character flaws like ticks off the back of an elephant and masturbating over it while proclaiming total victory. I appreciate the neutral crowd because we don't have en…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:52 PM
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I'm a misanthropic aspie whose hobby's include insulting peoples appearance and making jokes about their insecurities. Being yourself has made me STD and child free. Thanks OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:19 PM
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It would be a hilarious experiment to give a woman an average mans profile and see how many girls she can get
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 02:33 AM
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. Lookism and misc have done experiments with deformed women with full beards and other medical abnormalities and have gotten overwhelming positive response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:46 AM
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The word has been used to such redundancy that it has lost all meaning in my mind. I looked it up afterwards and realized that they are synonymous. I am not TRP btw so we are both prone to mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 11:40 PM
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They say it because they believe it. It is an idealization, such as a man wanting a woman that is intelligent and into his hobbies. The thing is ideal humans tend to get in early and stay in relationships with other ideal humans. It is more likely that you're going to have to choose someone that does not satisfy every criteria on your list. For virtually all people the number 1 non-negotiable requirement for a sexual relationship is sexual attraction. If it comes down to a choice of having a sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:58 PM
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So nice guy is a misnomer. You want a guy with social skills and an agreeable temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:44 PM
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Admirable practitioners of good habit, or pretentious deceivers of cringe worthy buffoonery, depending on how their performance goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 03:10 AM
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Authentic confidence is a sign of good mental health, this is good. False bravado is a sign of insecurity, this is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 02:18 AM
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I disagree, but I understand your position, and it is good to see someone that engages with their own morality that is involved in TRP. There are objections to relativism that I highlighted elsewhere, but there is nothing forcing you to believe them. Being aware of them couldn't hurt though, and Ill make an effort to read objections to moral realism in the future. I suppose the main concern is TRPs non-engagement with moral discussion at all, and how lazy the claim of amorality is within a strat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 11:35 PM
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Until then ? Get off our backs. Our view that it's moral is as valid as your view it is not. According to the relativist model, people can do whatever they want so long as it is congruent to their subjective moral beliefs. Thus criticism is fair game, as would be organized doxxing, and other legal slanderous behaviors towards members of TRP. This is why relativism is troublesome. It offers no coherent guideline in deciding between an action that it obviously bad, and one that is obviously good. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:33 PM
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Objections to Moral Relativism: Relativists Exaggerate Cultural Diversity, Relativism Ignores Diversity Within a Culture, Relativism Implies that Obvious Moral Wrongs are Acceptable, Relativism Undermines the Possibility of a Society Being Self-Critical, Relativism is Pragmatically Self-Refuting, Relativism Rests on an Incoherent Notion of Truth, The Relativist Position on Tolerance is Problematic. http://www.iep.utm.edu/moral-re/#H4 For anyone curious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:31 PM
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That is a highly contested point that you just made. Moral realism is a real ideology and you cant just dismiss the criticisms of moral subjectivism out of convenience. The debate is not close to being settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:13 PM
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We can conclude that sexual knowledge is amoral, but sexual action has moral implications because of the consequences it has on another conscious being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 05:24 PM
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Rape is an example of why evolutionary psychology alone is not enough to make claims as to what we ought to do as humans, and why appeals to nature are a fallacy. Given the proper primitive environmental context, such as sexual scarcity, intense violent competition, and a dominant harem based sexual culture, a normal man can be compelled to act as a rapist. That is, to kill a man who has dominion over a wife, and forcibly have sex with her without her consent in order to satisfy your sexual urge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 02:33 PM
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Yes you've mentioned that about 12 times in the last 30 minutes, making me skeptical of the existence and quality of these women and the intensity of your own insecurity needing to tend to your ego so much. We dont give them advice for multiple reasons. First, they are not special and should not require special advice. Read the basic material. Second, we are not minorities how the fuck should we know what you need to do extra. Third, you are annoying and offer no value to the conversation, but r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:45 PM
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That is you meeting the conditions of attraction, thus you succeed. What is not meeting those conditions is making self pity posts trying to guilt white women into having sex with you Furthermore, if you are letting naysayers on the internet and of your own race stop you from competing for what you want, you had no chance in the first place. It is hypocritical to bemoan the bias against Asian and Indian men, when they are the ones promoting their own racial inferiority while fetishizing white wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:27 PM
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Attraction is racist. It is intolerant of being short, lacking in confidence, and any other human quality that we have that is associated with being weaker than those around you. Attraction cannot be reasoned with. You can't negotiate its conditions. You either satisfy the conditions and win the contest, or you lose. It is part of who we are. Is it fair, just, moral, empathetic, or compassionate? No. It is a mechanism that exists outside of these things. To try and reason with it is to confess y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:09 PM
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You can conclude from this observation that group ideologies have tendencies to justify their own hypocrisy, and are effective places for hatred to seek shelter and grow. If you are interested in living a good life avoid outsourcing your thinking to a third party, as they have their own agendas that are often driven by petty motivations that have nothing to do with being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:56 PM
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That woman would probably be upset if she thought she had a chance at something real with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 10:05 PM
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Say like, you pluck up the courage and ask Chad to be more than FWB and he rejects you, saying he just doesn't feel you have enough in common or something else vague, but not really offensive or demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:37 PM
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Is Chad an asshole when he stops answering your texts and you see him driving around with a younger, more beautiful girl? It's easy to say he is just an asshole, but you don't know that girl, and maybe she is a better partner than you. So this, men are assholes when they date other women line of rationalization of the fact Chad rejected you because you weren't good enough, but that's OK, it is him that is the asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:05 PM
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I think PUA has always been about seducing attractive people, and TRP is an extension of that. Not everyone has that drive to compete for the sexiest mates, and that is fine. I do not look down on the competitors for employing strategies; you would have zero chance otherwise. I do not look down on average people when they settle; you exempt yourself from the stress and danger of sexual competition. Both are lifestyle choices that appeal to distinct crowds, and are both legitimate mating strategi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 02:27 AM
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Attractiveness comes down to masculinity. If your you are short, feminine, submissive, with a dainty frame, then you will suffer a handicap with women, no matter what your race is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 02:18 AM
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Some women do, it would be pure speculation on my part as to why. Id guess that the women who hate it are of the more serious, respect is paramount in gender relations types, while the ones who like it are more easy going, fun loving types. I make no value judgement on these preferences. Serious and fun loving women have their pros and cons, and receptivity to cat calling may not be a solid indicator as to which type of person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:41 AM
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The catcall is not a serious attempt at seduction. To me, it is more about the process of a young man developing his confidence with women he finds attractive. For the man it is about overcoming his anxiety about putting himself on the line, and sending out a verbal jab as a sort of practice run at a legitimate approach. After the cat call, you think, hey that was kind of fun, I had a laugh, I put myself out there, and the world didn't end. It is a desensitization exercise leading up to the actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:21 AM
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Does this include evolutionary psychology? If 50% failed, 50% saw some success. Which relevant studies failed/succeeded?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 12:35 AM
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One possibility can be that the natural human mind is designed to form its beliefs based on personal experience, not accurate statistical claims of probability. A short article about the phenomenon These examples show the power of probabilistic thinking to override our intuitive sense of numbers, or what I call folk numeracy. Folk numeracy is our natural tendency to misperceive and miscalculate probabilities, to think anecdotally instead of statistically, and to focus on and remember short-term …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 09:36 PM
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I'm against the act of involuntary privacy violation, but am a fan of drama and trolling people who can't show sexual discipline, so I'd call it a wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 07:33 PM
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/r/askphilosophy does something like this and it is a pretty good sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/1ln7e0/notice_a_stronger_policy_of_removing_subpar/ Not sure if the same model would work here since there are no recognized fields of pill commentary that we can refer to as a field of expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 07:29 PM
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Fit or bust
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 11:45 AM
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Well, now that it is decided. What are you going to do for the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:19 AM
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Tell me something good about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:18 PM
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Have you been used in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:12 PM
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Not in the cards because you don't want to, or because it isn't possible
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:09 PM
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What is your goal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 11:07 PM
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Women are inherently evil and supported by the empire. Men are the underdog, oppressed, innocents, struggling to obtain freedom from this tyrannical regime. The prophets, anointed by the virtuous redpillschool, deliver sermons denouncing the atrocities of hypergamy and feminism that are savagely denying us our god given right to come inside their Chad stretched holes. Only those don the holy garb of GLO t-shirts can unlock their genetic alpha legacy that is in the heart of every downtrodden beta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 03:21 PM
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If a man is truly alpha culture would not stop him from being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 02:23 PM
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Depends if they have big boobs or not. In all honesty if there is personality chemistry I don't care what sex the person is, I'll spend my time with them if it is more enjoyable than being by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:05 AM
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Think we're all fairly grey at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:59 PM
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Depends on your passions. I couldn't stand spending every evening sharing thoughts with a dim wit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:40 PM
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I'm somewhat proud of the current state of things. Both sides get highly upvoted when they make a well thought out point for their side, and the downvote brigades seem to be spread evenly as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:12 AM
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Depends what you define as blue pill, but to me someone who has moral virtues: A virtue is a positive trait or quality deemed to be morally good and thus is valued as a foundation of principle and good moral being. Personal virtues are characteristics valued as promoting collective and individual greatness. The opposite of virtue is vice. Is a more attractive person, alpha fucks or beta bux, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:09 AM
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I've found the best determiner of SMV is to flirt with a variety of people and see the whether they reciprocate or not. For a woman it is harder though because men are a lot less fussy about who they are attracted to. If they flirt back all you know is that you are not absolutely deformed/disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 01:47 AM
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A person who is genetically only 60-70th percentile can become 90th percentile just by working really hard on styling, grooming and fitness. Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:28 PM
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TFW all of those things except 5'11"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:24 PM
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Yes, but I am not you, so I'm not sure what will bring you joy. I'd start with this chart, and try some cognitive behavioral exercises, like thinking of 5 things you are genuinely grateful for every day. It seems silly, but it trains your mind to be positive, and works towards breaking toxic thought patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:03 AM
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There are many ways to find fulfillment and validation in life besides sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:22 AM
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I don't get why it has to be one or the other when it is obvious that both are highly influential.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:44 PM
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There is truth to what you say, but the problem with jsanza is he a prisoner of his own bullshit. It is obvious he doesn't exercise, he looks slouchy and pathetic. That is enough to eliminate him from sexual contention by itself, not to mention his other unattended flaws. There is a problem a step above this that is more heinous than defeatism though. It is the worship of sexual validation as a means of producing self esteem. To all thirsty omegas, women are the determiner of self worth. The pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 02:31 PM
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Were these men not white
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 02:46 AM
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redditor for 25 minutes. Seems legit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:55 PM
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It could be that from the perspective of women that they are used to a style of treatment that is influenced by the women are wonderful effect, the halo effect of their beauty, and other forms of favortism previously received in casual situations from men that want to have sex with them. When they experience true equality, they don't realize the negative effects that it brings as well, such as being excluded over mediocre performance, called out over poor behavior, and other forms of criticism t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 01:26 PM
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We are humans though, and apes are not known to engage in warfare, but we are. Warfare is the conflict, especially when vicious and unrelenting, between competitors for resources or power. A dispute between dominant males is a main contributor to the decision to engage in warfare. No matter which human culture we choose to look at, nearly all of them commit warfare. Therefor, you can conclude that committing warfare is a part of our nature. We have our altruistic urges as well, but if we are try…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:49 PM
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There is a certain appeal of this sort of behavior to our more primal instincts, but it is revolting to our moral sense. Our psychology is a yelling match of contradictions, and this is a prime example of why making fallacious appeals to nature is a bad thing to do. If evo psych is a good way of making claims on how you ought to live, then you have to include these sort of actions as part of that. These sort of actions are clearly immoral. Therefor, you should not use evo-psych as your exclusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:10 PM
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How does one Australian as their job
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 11:37 AM
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They have valid objections to TRP, but really fall short on their expression of them. Both sides seem to allow their imaginations create these demons that they can shake their fists at and pretend that they have found the cause of all evil in society. Meanwhile it is just two groups of mundane people with minimal influence and no willingness to display self criticism or philosophical rigor (PPD excluded occasionally).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 01:50 AM
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We have inherited a bizarre dilemma from our evolutionary history. We have urges that tell us to select partners based on one set of criteria, but have the ability to examine and disagree with them. Just because we sexually select based on these urges, does not mean that it is necessarily in our best interests. We have desires and projects that our sexual pursuits can come into conflict with. Say I want to surround myself with intelligent, professional people to gain knowledge and live a good li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 03:07 AM
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I think the things you are describing are synonymous with moral claims, and I am not getting what the distinction between them is. Whether you tether them to a god, government, or philosopher, they are still claims of what a person should or should not do as a member of a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:02 AM
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I think they are expressions of the same thing, but at different scales. The self has moral inclinations and the freedom to decide which one it considers best, but what if there are multiple selves that arrive at the same moral conclusion? The emergent property of that agreement is a communal moral code.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:38 AM
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There are recommendations in TRP material that should be criticized for their immorality, such as dark triad techniques, considering women as non agents that are incapable of basic decent human behavior such as expressing loyalty, and others. You are not immoral for reading TRP, nor are you until you commit an immoral act with it as your guide, but in it's current form, the philosophy ought to be criticized on moral grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:25 AM
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In your scenario there is no deception taking place, but there are portions of TRP thinking that recommend deception and psychological manipulation. You are not an immoral person for reading TRP and using it is a tool, but because the philosophy recommends immoral acts it is deserving of criticism, even though you choose to not engage in those acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:19 AM
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That is a moral claim though. Infringement upon the rights of others to exercise their rights. How do we decide what a human right is? By coming to a communal consensus on what is ethical or not. I am not claiming that what is a moral good exists separate of the human experience, but I don't see why morals are considered unimportant just because they are of human origin. You touched on a basic axiom of all living things: Existence is superior to non-existence. That can be considered a basic mora…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:14 AM
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I'm unsure of what your other-centered premise is referring to. I am not discounting the existence of relativistic moral scenarios, but even in those there is a discernible truth in relation to their own tenets. There are also meta-ethical truths present as a result of us all being humans of the same evolutionary heritage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:03 AM
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Yes I made the presumption that the law is ethical. which is not always the case. That does not make the pursuit of law enforcement a lost cause, or the expression of distaste for immoral acts invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 12:58 AM
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The idea is to realize the consequences of your own behavior and self moderate accordingly. Punishment is not required to have moral considerations in your life, and having sex with those girls is not necessarily an immoral act.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:35 PM
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Isn't a crime just a severe version of an immoral act? Less severe immoral acts do not require professional legal intervention, and are handled within social groups themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:33 PM
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What are the courts and police if not enforcement entities of our basic moral codes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:24 PM
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Not punishment from god, no, but we are members of a society. I replied to Atlas in more detail. I wouldn't look at it as your duty to the society that you live in (although that is part of it), but as the process of making the best decisions that allow you and the members of your society to live the best lives possible. As it stands, TRP is mainly concerned with what is good for themselves, and shows no concern for the people in their lives that they may negatively effect. This draws warranted …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:48 PM
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By our peer groups through criticism, punishment, exile, imprisonment, or execution, based on the severity of the immoral act committed. To me, TRP is guilty of minor immoral acts, so the reaction to it should be criticism, which is what is happening. I would argue it is violating a relative social code to our society, rather than the most basic code of human ethics, but that could be debated. TRP holds a policy if amorality, but it seems like a convenient way to avoid discussions of morality; a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:20 PM
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Just because you can claim amorality does not absolve you of being accountable for immoral behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:15 PM
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I thought blank slate theory was proven to be a joke by cognitive neuroscience and psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 02:08 AM
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First, it seems that there is no consensus on what "that" is. I've seen members claim that all it means is that all women are hypergamous, but that is not how the term is being used. It seems to be used whenever a woman does something that you disagree with, or that seems to be in line with the cliches about women. It criminalizes mundane behavior to the point of seeming like your entire group is flawed to the point of being utter human trash. I know you are putting women on notice for their bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:44 AM
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Like most PUA material it is about raising probability of success. The target demographic lands somewhere between first taste of beer and the last fling before the epiphany.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:05 PM
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Considering that one of the most common female preferences is an attraction to confidence, I would not hold my breath on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 03:11 PM
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I've acquired high enough SMV that I'm not ashamed of who I am. Sex itself as a hobby isn't that interesting to me, but the theory behind it is. It is ambiguous, interesting, tied to our nature, yet no one seems to be able to fully grab onto it and say, "Here, this is the truth about sex." When you dig into it, it takes you on a tour of science, philosophy, psychology, and pretty much everything else. When I try and find the answer to a question, I run into this quagmire of additional questions.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 01:45 AM
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No study is representative of the entire population though. I wish someone would try and replicate the OCK results in a more structured manner. It has probably been done, I'll do some digging when I get home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 12:23 PM
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Where does the cycle of mistreatment end? There must be a way to come to a mutually beneficial agreement without having to abuse one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:57 PM
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Good question. I believe they can both get their desired outcome without causing each other unnecessary pain and suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:56 PM
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Yes, but if a school is producing a large amount of reckless drivers its curriculum should be scrutinized. I'm more putting forward the theory as an unanswered question, rather than a stark accusation. Is TRP making bad citizens? If so, objection is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:47 PM
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That is the most basic that I have unfortunately. The necessary clause means that causing pain and suffering in self defense, gathering of food, or other means of survival are permissible, while cruelty for its own sake is injust. Yes you can make the argument that sex is a long term survival necessity. My question would be, does TRP cause unnecessary pain and suffering in their sexual strategy, ie is there a way they could get what they want without the negative side effects?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:45 PM
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This is a good idea for a topic, I'll make a thread in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:39 PM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:27 PM
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You don't decide the basis of my post. I do. Did you only read the first paragraph? Remove mainly from that sentence and my argument remains exactly the same. People make objections to TRP based on moral claims. p1. TRP claims their actions are amoral. p2. TRP makes moral claims on their subreddit. p3. There are consequences to acting in accordance to TRP material. p4. TRP may cause unnecessary pain and suffering. C1. TRP is not justified in claiming amorality because they make moral recommendat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:25 PM
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The topics that TRP deals with are emotional, and attached to the core of things like ego, self esteem, and sex. Say if I were to claim that all men are secretly homosexuals, and the only reason that they are not having anal sex with their best friends is because they are afraid that they will like it too much. Say I backed this up with evo-psych, cited male bonobos as proof of our homosexual urges, and look at tribes in Africa where a young man has to give blow jobs to the older hunters in orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 11:13 PM
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My claim was drawn from the content of TBP subreddit, TRP's main critic, that emphasizes their moral objection to TRP through their content. I'm not saying that the descriptive objects that he mentioned are not valid, but look at the volume of content I have to reply to already. Do you blame me for wanting to focus on one subject? As for your objection to my "mostly" claim, is that the best you got? Even if it was false, that doesn't invalidate what I said, as my main point doesn't rely on that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 06:19 PM
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My claim was not proven false. I stated that we are covering the moral objection, and I also said that there were other objections that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:59 PM
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I'd say as humans we experience and enforce our moral system through social consequences. To me, humans seem to have a basic mechanism that is inherent to their biology that drives them to enforce moral policies. What those policies are can differ wildly, but the urge is there and it seems to be universal to all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:13 AM
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You can look at this multiple ways, but on the surface I would say no. They are choosing a career in a competitive field, and are choosing the chance at a high payout in the face of the risk of failure. I doubt that you are depriving them of their basic needs for food and shelter, so your harm to them is not as great as you'd imagine. If you do something that sabotages them in a great way, while not being necessary to your success, you could call that an injustice. At this point you would have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:01 AM
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Yes, feminism seems to have powerful shaming tools at their disposal, but we can see through those tactics by educating ourselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:52 AM
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Yes those objections exist, but they do not minimize the existence of the objection to TRP's morals. For the sake of this discussion let's keep to the moral objections, or we will lose focus chasing loose ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:50 AM
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It can be argued that the wife is the source of Bill's suffering, as she is responsible for keeping her promises, and in breaking them she is the one creating the injustice. Your intervention could be either justified or not, depending on the circumstances. TRP, the subreddit, could be amoral if all it did was make descriptive claims, but it does not. It makes claims that are normative in which it describes whether actions are good or bad, mostly in regards to women, feminism, and beta/alpha mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:47 AM
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From my experience women with options are quick to show their attraction at first, but if you don't reciprocate, they cut you off cold turkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:51 PM
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you can be masculine, confident, and ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 10:10 PM
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What are you majoring in?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 07:48 PM
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Sex is an anti-intellectual pursuit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:15 PM
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Strong AI will have the physical capability to manipulate everything involving technology. 2045 is the date set for computing power to reach 1 billion human minds at the cost of 1000 dollars. Considering a sex slave requires much less than 1 human mind, sex bots will probably reach a satisfactory level at any moment now. The creator of real doll says he is in the process of incorporating AI into his dolls as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 04:54 PM
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Explain it to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:42 AM
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Considering computing power is slated to reach singularity by 2045, sex will be one of the least impressive changes to come.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:15 AM
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TRP is a crowd, not an individual, and as such there are different ideas that are going to appeal to the different sects of that crowd. A large part of it is interested in outrage porn such as this, but the relevant part is interested in the ability of the theory to describe our world. Id encourage readers to absorb what is relevant, and discard the frivolous things such as circle jerks. If you are interested in forming a critique against TRP, do it on the fundamental ideas rather than on the bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 10:33 PM
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You are such an asshole! As they look at you with glimmering eyes and a smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 08:02 PM
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Interesting how the strategy is 100% based on determining male worth, and 0% focused on increasing self worth. My cat is having kittens if you are interested in starting a collection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 12:13 AM
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A pleb woman teaches a young man to be a nice guy because that is the effective female mating strategy. Be nice when you like a guy, be mean when you don't want him. The male libido is assumed to always be in the positive, and doesn't have to be activated by anything other than looking like a female and being nice. It is an illusion. On the surface it seems as though they are performing an equal task, just lift the bar over your head. One bar is lifted by virtue of having a body, the other not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 08:29 PM
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If you understood the material you would know that putting women on a pedestal makes you unattractive to them. Until you stop doing that you will not have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 07:06 PM
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Lift
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 02:17 PM
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That is a good observation. Feminism is a position of envy of the masculine. In saying that when you treat women differently, you are treating them as lesser humans, there is the implication that the female position is one of less value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 02:14 PM
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The comic is based on the irony that the doctor is old and alone while he deals with the reality of female preference all day at his job
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 03:50 AM
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To give you some context, that comic is not of TRP origin, but from PUAHATE, which takes an anti TRP stance. They use the term redpill for harsh truths about the world that people don't want to accept, but unlike TRP they are biological determinists. To them, things like race, height, ugliness, and autism cannot be overcome by strategy or game. If you are "genetic trash" you are fucked, and PUA thinking is just a coping mechanism designed to give incels false hope. So you are correct, these comi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 02:33 AM
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That is like saying if all women became fit and beautiful that men would stop being interested in those things. I don't think so Tim. Women will always be attracted to masculine, confident men. It is their genetic criteria for sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 09:19 PM
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It isn't a shit test. The people that believe in it are authentic in their sentiment. It is based on the idea that women are being mistreated by society, and it is an injustice. The common feminist woman is especially susceptible to this sort of argumentation, as their primary view of the world comes through the lens of their social experience. This injustice is a threat her position of social value, and that is her source of power. Their reaction of anger and fear is understandable. They try an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 09:10 PM
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As a blue collar canadian, it is balanced right up the middle. The university women that I know almost all took up social work, and all took up the progressive feminist banner. You can still have civil conversations with them, but if you speak heresy against the implicit pro feminist tone, it becomes a night ending issue. I have cut contact with these groups. We have a lot of foreign people from China, the Philippians, and India. They are traditional in their beliefs and act as balance against t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 08:33 PM
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I type posts that large and then hit cancel sometimes I read it over and say, "I'm so full of fucking shit"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:48 PM
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What is stopping the reader from ditching the AWALT crap though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:41 AM
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I use the term debate in this sense: a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers. A contest: an event in which people compete for supremacy in a sport, activity, or particular quality. In a debate we engage each other in a contest. We have our chosen subject and our position on that subject. The person who defends their position the best, using sound logic, is the winner. This doesn't mean that one idea suffers a permanent loss…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 10:20 PM
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I find it hard to understand how people get upset about rudeness on reddit. To me, it is just a piece of information that informs me about the person talking. When I see baiting or snark, I know the person isn't interested in a productive exchange. I value that information. If you want a quality exchange you have to be the leader in the discussion. Don't take the bait, try and make their argument better for them, and stick to the logic. I've made some arguments on behalf of anti TRP positions ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:01 PM
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Yes you are right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 04:52 PM
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Those are specific forms of bad arguments that we see here. What part do you have a problem with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:28 PM
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To me, evo psych is amoral. It is not making a claim as to what you should do with yourself, but just offering a description of our humanity. If I were to define morality as this: The term “morality” can be used either descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a society or, some other group, such as a religion, or accepted by an individual for her own behavior or normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:47 AM
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The point is that the premises of the argument are what makes it true or false, not the hypocrisy of the person saying it. You can use a judgement of hypocrisy as an example of why their argument is wrong, but the act of hypocrisy itself does not make an argument wrong just because a person is being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:24 AM
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I'm not experienced enough in social sciences to determine whether all their claims are good or bad, but from what I've seen the area has a majority of students that are female, and low IQ. http://www.randalolson.com/wp-content/uploads/iq-by-college-major-gender.png I could make a guess that the work coming out of the field has a female bias, and is probably not held to the highest of logical standards. This would be a guess on my part though, I'll have to look more into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:14 AM
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Because people can believe false things makes arguing flawed? That makes arguing even more important. Logic and evidence are the ways that we judge a belief to be true or not. Because one person's belief is bad doesn't make arguing bad, it means the person has bad beliefs, which are revealed through logical analysis. If a person insists in their false belief even after being shown the evidence, they should be classified as a fool. The process is not foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:07 AM
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For the unaware: A naturalistic fallacy is the argument that something is inherently good because it arose from nature. When applied to TRP: Even though evolutionary psychology is a sound description of the adaptations that the human mind has made in response to sexual and natural selection, behaving in accordance with the tenets of evo-psych is not good or moral by virtue of it being the "natural" thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:16 AM
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Damn we gotta hire that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:06 AM
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It is a fallacy because the moral character or past actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument. You can use their past actions as a direct proof against their claim, but only if it disproves the claim. Say I have AIDS, but claim that you shouldn't have unprotected sex because you can get STDs. I could be called a hypocrite by someone who is pro unprotected sex, because I had too much unprotected sex myself. This doesn't make my claim false that you ought to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 11:53 PM
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Ad Hominem An ad hominem means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character, rather than the content of their arguments. When used inappropriately, it is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized. Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates to the credibility of statements of fact or when used in certain kinds of moral and practical reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 11:22 PM
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I agree in order to debate you must have a clear stance that you are promoting. I have not seen it come from TBP side of things yet though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:28 PM
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The mods have to decide what their vision is, and how much work they want to put into it. There is a clear need for a middle ground place where both sides are free to express disagreement, but too much of a hands off approach lets petty bickering, and repetitive nonsense infect the space.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:21 PM
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If I were being generous, I would call TBP a critique of TRP ethics that provides examples of how the philosophy is damaging to people that believe in it and those around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:02 PM
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There needs to be a sidebar that educates people on what good argument is, what common logical fallacies are with common examples, and the expectation that you will try to avoid them. There also needs to be a brief, straw man free, summary of the basic position of each side. Finally, there needs to be an archive of high quality discussions on the sidebar that people can skim through.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:07 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 02:11 AM
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You probably have a niche subset of men that you are pulling your experiences from, but I do know about the picky man phenomenon, because I am one. It is hard to self analyze, but let me try. I don't feel the urge to chase women down and persuade them to have sex. When I see sexy women during my day I make eye contact, gauge if she is interested, and take note. Beyond that small self esteem game, I don't feel compelled to do much more with them. I don't have a proper explanation besides the urge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 12:16 AM
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Their expression of pessimism is an expression of their current and past experience, not of the future they believe will occur. The average TRP poster is devoid of sexual attention and self esteem, this causes them psychological suffering that becomes the center of their existence. If you are sitting in a vat of self loathing, it is near impossible to crack a smile over the stench of your inadequacies. When you see that pessimism remember that it isn't representative of a healthy, self actualize…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 12:05 AM
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If you are to accept evo psych as true, then you accept that women are the choosing sex. They are picky because of parental investment in the child. Women have to commit years and risk death to bear children. If you accept the harshness of the environment that our instincts developed in, women cannot be blamed for being naturally choosy compared to men when it comes to who to have sex with. What I'm saying is your choosiness is not an injustice, it is just your nature. When men begrudge women fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:53 PM
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I see no problem with what you are doing. It is common for a woman to want commitment from a man that she sees as high value, because she'll want his time to herself only, but no one is saying you must do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 02:29 PM
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What you are described is something that people pay thousands of dollars for, a university education. Someone with a professional level of skill in debate and logic is not going around offering it for free. This stuff is time consuming. We are all hobbyists looking to improve our positions by testing our ideas against criticism. When you crowd source for free, you are going to get a lot of low quality responses, but even if 1/10 are good, that is still a good return on your initial investment of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 12:27 PM
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The whole bluepill subreddit is an attack on the character of redpillers, yet they have not retreated from the discussion, by what measure of fairness do you expect special consideration? This is a group of peers. There is no professor figure here. There will be logical fallacies, and bad arguments. It is your responsibility to navigate past the bad, and sift out whatever knowledge you can. You even said that you learned something. Does that not have value?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 01:28 AM
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What is the time frame here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 12:06 AM
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You never see this talked about, but I think it is an important consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 07:28 PM
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Hi. What country are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 02:48 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 12:47 AM
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As a woman, you are correct to feel that way. As a thinker though you can see how this highlights the conflict of interests between male and female sexual strategy. There are men with mediocre genes that want the best woman possible, just as there are women with mediocre genes that want the best man possible . To both crowds the prospect of committing to a lesser prospect, or in the case of lesser men no prospect, is deplorable to their instincts. Coming to a compromise is the solution if your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 11:44 PM
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no balls
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 11:30 PM
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Come now. A subreddit designed to follow around the members of another one searching for flaws in their character is not a low investment activity. Here is how un-invested TBP is in their hobby: https://archive.is/zw5gj This is a list of all members that have ever participated in a redpill discussion for the sake of tracking and banning. As for your comment thread, you tried to explain a concept that people didn't agree was in their own best interest. Not the most productive of exchanges, but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 11:27 PM
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no pics no balls no care
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:55 PM
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Steven Pinker talked about this in How the Mind Works, chapter 7ish. Since the most successful males had an abundance of female affection, this would leave other males out of the sexual game. In order to run a successful society, they needed to motivate the lesser males to do work, as human labor was all that they had. Lesser males craved sex, so they entered into an agreement with powerful men to negotiate for a wife, or wives, in exchange for their cooperation. The powerful men would force wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 04:38 PM
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You make some agreeable points, but I'd suggest reading evo psych material. It is compelling, backed by sound logic, and in favor with some of the top thinkers in academia right now. TRP doesn't represent academic evo psych accurately. I wouldn't throw away the field just cause some angry guys on the internet like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 05:56 AM
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I don't know. Since evolution is a measure of biological adaptations in response to environmental pressures, it is difficult to find an influence on human behavior outside of those two factors. I would say a different interpretation of the observations made by TRP, but still in the field of evo-psych would the best approach. Start with the basics. Humans, survival pressure, natural selection, sexual selection, adaptation. Find a piece of evidence that would be interesting to examine, and ask som…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 09:37 PM
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That's what happens when you go full blue pill on LMS
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 05:05 PM
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Yes man you don't want to be smooching the gremlin everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:20 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/search?q=PPD&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all Substituting words is not a counter point. A quick tour of TBP's discussion of PPD. I'll let you decide what kind of story it tells.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:51 AM
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Hi Leo. I like your videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:52 AM
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To me, /r/thebluepill is not interested in asking hard questions about their own beliefs. They are convinced that the red pill is evil, and there is no reason to make a special effort to coerce more of them here. Unless you are fond of emotional rants about the same old boring concepts like misogyny, rape, and the how evil it is to have an open discussion. If you have any doubts as to their fondness of echo chambers, go to either of the subreddits and disagree in a popular post. In TRP you may g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:56 AM
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I don't feel like doing that right now, but I can say that I agree with the lock and key model, and I agree that there are observable differences in the way that men and women approach sexual relationships. As for the why, that is beyond the scope of my expertise. It seems to be a dynamic that is present in almost all sexual dimorphic species though, and there is no reason to think that humans are exempt. A useful thought experiment would be to imagine there being no gate keeper dynamic, and wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:57 PM
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Depends on what sort of truth the person is looking for. If they are trying to understand aspects of their own experience, I think there will always be a layer of subjectivity that is attached to the observer. Say if you are gay, your experience of sexuality is going to be different. The same goes with the things that you choose to investigate; this will be influenced by your own curious urge. There are statistical trends that can be objectively tracked. Since we are in a sexual strategy sub her…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:23 PM
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that is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 09:50 PM
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I don't think the observation was irrelevant at all. I'm keeping it simple for the sake of readers that aren't familiar with the subject. The off switch is critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:30 PM
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Yes your explanation is correct for people that are redpilling responsibility, but there are plenty of posts that fit in the dissonance category and nobody is talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:26 PM
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't indulge in the occasional, petty, ad-hominem attack on a person that I don't like. This stuff isn't even that hard to get into. There is introduction to psychology, and introduction to philosophy. If you completely understand the material from those two courses, you have the tools to deconstruct any basic argument made on the internet, and are better equipped than 99% of the people commenting on these forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:43 AM
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Ask me a single question that I can respond to. You asked at least six rhetorical questions there that would take me hours to deconstruct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:32 AM
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That is a tough question. I'd say a sober understanding of the human condition, and how limited our understanding of it is, would be a good place to start. Because of the way that our ego shields our conscious mind from seeing the severity of our own flaws, this is a hard thing to do. The gap is in perception and imagination. We don't even have a good way to measure things like happiness or sexual desire other than self-reporting, and because of our failure in self perception, this is a laughabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 04:32 AM
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sort by top, that sub is gold
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:14 AM
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No there are redpill discussions outside of reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:11 PM
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I don't think people get how much the rest of the male forums laugh at the shit on TRP. I've seen it called the biggest delusional circle jerk on the internet, a piece of alpha male escapism that reads like a fan fiction, and a good idea that went full retard. The place has some interesting articles, and the discussion is something that needed to happen, but let's not pretend that intelligent people are taking everything posted there at face value. It is being read with much criticism, as 90% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 12:28 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 11:26 PM
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What sort of self proclaimed man's man goes around counting his sympathizers? This is counter productive to the end goal of being a transcendent alpha. Fools gold. This whole exercise is a self congratulatory piece of public masterbation. 75% of the body of this post could have been edited out if you didn't have to service your own insecurity so obsessively. Shaming women because they are hurting your feelings is the antithesis of stoic strength. They have no respect for trivial, unfounded, weak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:38 PM
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I wanted to be a nice guy and get the ball rolling for you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:09 PM
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http://media.giphy.com/media/gL7NTbPU2TC36/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 03:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 03:27 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/ReddishBlack
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 02:53 PM
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With the amount of acid reflux I experience here I feel we should request a sponsorship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:11 AM
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The even funnier thing is #killallmen was started as a false flag troll by /pol/ on 4chan
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 02:35 AM
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Yes my sex life has always been like that. I would do my own thing without any interest in hooking up, and opportunities would come to me through my social group. After a few trial runs, I resigned to ignoring any attempts at seduction by pretending I didn't notice. After years of living like this I started reading things online about sexuality and was grateful to not be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:27 PM
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Yep I was in the lower third of what is considered healthy range. I believe the range was 8-33 and I was a 13 or something, I forget what the units were. The doctor was mad at me for asking for it because I was in pretty good shape at the time and 185 lbs. Not interested in changing things through TRT. I've worked hard to get to this level of self acceptance, and things are going good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:21 PM
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Yes balance is key, but I think it is a process. TRP may seem like a heavy handed response, but it is part of working things out, and not a final resting place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:16 PM
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Full disclosure because I'm not ashamed. Twelve years going strong. Have had sex twice and hated it each time. I enjoy the validation when someone finds me attractive, but it ends there. Women are sexy, but when I am in the mix it doesn't feel right. It has been a hard process coming to terms with my identity, and it isn't over. I read all this manosphere stuff to try and understand why I'm not normal. There are no articles for me, but hearing about the rest of it is engrossing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 06:18 AM
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Purple Pill Debate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:18 PM
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Ayyy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:54 PM
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Visit Gandy or lookism.net If you're not genetically viable, you may as well have a laugh about it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 08:52 PM
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They know about women's struggle, but I don't think they respect the pain they experience as a result of the way things are. Women get lots of sex, and that would be great for them if they were men, but that is not all that she wants, and that is not what she strives for. Her sexual choices define her in a way that a man's doesn't. If she makes bad choices in her sex life, she is stuck with a child that has the genes of a failure. People see a woman who shows poor taste in her sexual partners an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 12:21 AM
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All that is just an attempt to make the man to stop talking like that and hurting their self image by hurting him back and dismissing his experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 11:55 PM
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You're going to encounter a lot of people who are going to contradict anything you say because of what you choose to stand for. You will be ignored because the importance of being right is far greater than the importance of understanding truth. That was a generalization, and I trust myself to spot the exceptions, but as per my experience, my generalization is correct often enough for me to accept it as part of my beliefs. Ask yourself, "Are generalizations about groups of people helpful to me an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:42 PM
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Not every person is destined for academics though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:38 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/wjANVCD.jpg?fb
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:53 PM
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...the author of the original study took a very positive view of gamers in his piece, concluding that aggression is caused not by games themselves but by frustration caused by a lack of ability. In games and sports, there is something called tilt. It is when you encounter hardship or failure in an activity, and respond with a lack of focus due to anger and frustration. Tilt causes players to lash out and perform poorly. Experienced and skilled players know about tilt, and when confronted with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:45 PM
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The study is as credible as a critique of a game of inner city pickup ball written by an editor of Stormfront I don't read sexist drivel that's written with the sole purpose of slandering young men, and find myself nodding in agreement. Your own implications that kids suffering from autism should be looked down on disgusts me. Finally, the whole thing is just a shame play attempting to guilt disobedient young men into submission to the feminist agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 12:02 PM
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Male gamers. Gaming. Halo 3. On Xbox Live. Have you ever actually participated in this cesspit of utter disregard for human dignity. How is this science. Why don`t they just visit /b/ and bawk at the shocking presence of... oh... http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/09/25/absolutely-everything-you-need-to-know-to-understand-4chan-the-internets-own-bogeyman/ That should sound a whole lot like a lot of other, frequently sexist online spaces: Think Twitter. Or Reddit. Or 4chan. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:38 AM
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The men already thought of themselves as shit to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:04 AM
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As technology replaces labor, entertainment, competition, and companionship, occurrences of in person experiences go down. Less friendships, less trust, less romance, less chemistry, less need for each other, less desire for the family unit. Look at PPD or reddit itself. You debate with strangers in text. You laugh by yourself at jokes made by some other fool laughing at a backlit screen somewhere else. The majority of the human experience has been bastardized into an easy to consume, yet devoid…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 02:50 AM
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Nice list, I'll take a look when I get home
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:37 AM
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That sounds reasonable yes. I believe in extended courtship periods as well, but they are also an efficient way to get friend zoned if you don't play it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:34 AM
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I never claimed to be an alpha or even a follower of the TRP philosophy. You can't claim that I am unfairly strawmanning you when you never expressed yourself articulately in the first place. I gave you an opportunity to explain yourself, which you declined, instead choosing to degenerate into a bizarre tirade of personal attacks and accusations of being a rape/pedophilia apologist. I'd like to see where threats are a part of TRP methodology, maybe you can provide them after you sober up from yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 03:02 AM
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I was addressing a point you made about no one being like that (last paragraph). To me, it isn't about victimizing women at all, unless having consensual sex with a woman a crime worthy of victim status. I put forth no straw men, but just asked you some questions, most of which you chose not to address. Rather I was treated to a rather common story about how a message board about men's interests should somehow change itself to be about you and your feelings. Not once do I see you addressing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 01:06 AM
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I think you're imagining some sort of cartoonish behavior on the man's part. More realistically it would be unseen, and on the surface he would present no differently than your average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 12:25 AM
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I believe you are correct
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 10:34 PM
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The 48 Laws of Power (1998) is the first book by American author Robert Greene.[1] The book is a bestseller,[2][3] selling over 1.2 million copies in the United States. Those laws came from a national best selling book, so this sort of thinking is more common and broadly appealing than you want to believe. I don't use those tactics, as I'm not really clever enough nor am I motivated to run complex power games in my life. Learning that they exist, how people use them, and how to recognize them ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 10:16 PM
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Think of all the relationships that never even make it to marriage as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:29 PM
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I read somewhere that the chances for lesbians to get divorced has been 166% more likely than heteros, from the data coming in so far
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:27 PM
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You speak more redpilled than most men here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:02 PM
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I think anyone with any shred of critical thinking skills can grasp that AWALT is a cautionary idea rather than a literal description. Much like treat all guns as if they are loaded. Not all guns are always loaded, but you have nothing to gain and everything to lose if you presume that they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 07:58 PM
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There's that word again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 04:59 PM
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The problem I see with TRP sub is that you can read an article, and most of them are pretty good quality, but in the comments you will only read about how correct the OP is. I don't care about "misogyny"; plenty of people hate me for who I am and my day goes on just fine. The bother comes from the rampant circle jerk that takes place in one-sided subs that ban dissent. It is intellectually dishonest and unproductive. If open disagreement was embraced, the philosophy could develop to a better qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 04:49 PM
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Why don't you tell the fucking story already about this 18 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 10:51 PM
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Our constitution is just a document loosely pieced together from Greek and Roman political philosophy that some group of terrorists to the British imperative pieced together to oppress tax collectors. Since we've built our country on ideas that we didn't come up with from pondering the sky, we should feel ashamed at our plagiarisms, and go live in Greece where the original version of our political system is functioning in a vastly superior fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 06:50 PM
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Nice, this is one of my favorite subjects
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 12:12 PM
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And here I thought we had a chance at something real, PatriarchyMustDie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:48 AM
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Look the woman in the eye You will know if she is interested by her body language Respond accordingly Wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 04:43 AM
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you can always tell who is using an android
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 03:31 AM
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You should write a post mortum analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:15 PM
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You speak alot of respect, like it is something that needs to be forced, but if you are acting in a way that commands it, it will occur naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:10 PM
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Whatever happened to that PUA guy. AMALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:05 PM
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Misogyny is a silly word made by weak people to try and martyrdize the mundane human experience of people disliking you for your shitty behavior. Talking with the words of the weak gives them legitimacy, if you wish to strive for weakness and victimhood, go ahead and speak their language.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:01 PM
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Would you describe yourself as gender typical in your sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 09:35 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:16 PM
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Object, hypothesis*, method, observations, conclusion We are here *
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:14 PM
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No. Even though you are not in manual control of everything about your urges and decisions, the automatic parts of your mind are still part of the same thing that we call you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 11:57 AM
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In my experience women will do warm approaches. That is if you make eye contact and smile, or have some situational excuse to speak to each other, they will say hello often. As for coming up behind and just opening with no prompting whatsoever, I can't remember having that ever happen. I am just an average guy though, I'm sure Chad's get cold approached often.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:38 PM
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I was actually browsing the sub yesterday and frustrated with the seddit vibe. The quality of this place comes from the descriptive theories, not the prescriptive.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 05:08 PM
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Much like any other person, what the conscious mind believes about the self is often not a good predictor of how we will behave when we encounter a highly stimulating situation. We will do things we regret based on our urges and rationalize what we did later. Since we are talking in a highly sanitized way here, we speak in ideals. Free from the responsibility of our physical identity, there is a lot of bullshit that gets put out on here, like 99% of everything said. This is why I've made an effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:00 PM
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What the fuck is with your upper body lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 10:22 PM
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I'd rather do all those things with a male friend if sex wasn't the thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:44 PM
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I'm not sure, but wouldn't it be cool to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:34 PM
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They are a continuation of puahate.com home of the supreme gentleman himself, and haters of all game based claims of seduction. They believe that looks, money, and status are all that matter in seduction, and PUA based claims are cons designed to extact money from incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 03:24 PM
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Are women doing something as a group that would entice us to not feel respect for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 12:24 AM
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This is another area where my beliefs diverge from TRP. Let's say you have two different products. One is crafted in small batches, is made with quality in mind. When you try it, it exceeds your expectations. You recommend it to everyone you know. It performs excellently and lasts for years. The second is made in the poorest of conditions. It is common, flimsy, flawed at the outset of its design. You try it, and it falls apart under harsh conditions. It is a disappointment, even for the low pric…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:24 PM
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Some emotional stuff this sexual market
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 05:38 PM
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Is there some sort of guilt trip brewing here, just come out with it. Again, we are different people with different tastes, minds, and sexual desirability. When you make a seductive move, it is probably a completely different reception than when I do the same thing. Have you ever been called a creep, and have a group of women watch you everywhere you go, looking for signs of sexually predacious behavior. Then if you say anything, even jokingly, that involves sex in any way, they gossip about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 04:26 AM
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I've always enjoyed spending time with men as there are few boundaries and restrictions on what you can say, whereas with women there is normally an unspoken agreement to censor yourself or suffer backlash from them via behind the back brigades to exclude you from the group. That being said I've had three close female friends that I can think of. One was in university, she was attractive but had better options than myself. We had good chemistry in humor and personality, but she rejected me. Anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 01:47 AM
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Not sure what the difference is between those two things. The women tend to enjoy being around me. They see me as useful, entertaining, or otherwise, but never sexually attractive. In hindsight, I would try and close with words rather than kino and other masculine actions, thus killing the mood. I would place too much value on intellect and "deep" interaction, where most girls are looking for something more based in impulsive gestures and fluid moments. I've read all of the required redpill read…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:31 PM
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You are correct. I work construction, but I have had my share of exposure to women in the past. Work is a nice oasis where I get to focus on things that don't involve the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:03 PM
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Yes, there are people out there with minds, urges, and experiences that are not the same as your own It is no longer an issue as I don't engage in sexual behavior anymore Reading TRP serves as a reminder as to why I walked away
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:33 PM
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31 and done my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 05:22 PM
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Found it via seddit after looking how to escape the friendzone I don't believe every word they say, but TRP opened my perspective of sexuality in a way that I had never encountered anywhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 04:20 PM
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Lol you realize that female body fat percentages are different from male right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 11:57 AM
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Just some bug on android reddit. If there's text in the field already it will always highlight instead of give a paste option
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 01:24 AM
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I remember some guy on misc tinder matched with laci and she turned out to be a thirsty, alpha loving slut. I'll try and dig that thread up Edit: It was on /fit/, unsure if legit. Can't paste on mobile so I'll link below
/r/TheRedPill05/07/15 05:52 PM
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Nah self esteem issues are common in young people. She sees herself with no makeup, sees the imperfections in her body, and other things that you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 03:35 PM
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You seem mad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:06 AM
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I don't want to have sex with or spend my time with children If there are no women out there whose company I don't enjoy, then ithey will never be worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:03 AM
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Yep I told her straight up. She made some excuses as to why we can't be together then kept phoning me for favors, rides, even asking for cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:36 PM
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I'm right there with you man. Before real life redpilled me itself I had normal expectations of things. I hoped to one day have good chemistry with a woman and get into a relationship where we would look out for each other, have some laughs, stay fit and have some enjoyable sex. As a 6/10 male at best, it didn't turn out that way for me. First I was creep shamed. Maybe I crossed some lines, live and learn right? Then you tame down your approach. "Oh you need to be more confident." Friendzone sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 02:17 AM
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Anyone else notice that BPers are dating high notch count alphas with big dicks and stoic tendencies.. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 12:19 PM
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I wonder how many people enjoy one night stands I find them to be a disgusting and uncomfortable experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 12:36 PM
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Constant reaffirmation that nobody has the answers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 12:23 AM
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He could be an internet liar/fraud like 99% of these people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 11:48 AM
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I lifted the stone of the sexual market, saw ugly things I did not like to see, about myself and others, and want to move on to something better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 12:00 PM
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http://imgur.com/Ek53tiJ Got close to hitting my goal here but haven't been motivated lately Trying to enjoy the summer, E3, and focus on my career and spiritual things Goal would be more tanned, leaner, and abit more mass
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 04:12 AM
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This one tops the list
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 01:33 PM
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It's almost like someone can have a sense of humor about their own beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 03:57 AM
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Cause ugly people need hope too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:49 PM
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I can see someone getting a bit jaded after being approached frequently by applicants that don't have the genetic equivalent of a highschool diploma Her metaphor works and I appreciate the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 07:09 PM
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I think grown men fetishizing the endocrine systems of other grown men is bizarre and cringe worthy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 05:23 PM
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Human born with massive self esteem deficit Reliant upon third party care giver for all of your early years Creates mental habit of judging ones own success based on the approval from third party sources Ego health is important to a satisfactory mental life, and in adulthood the ego is usually fed by sexual market success So love is the feeling towards the third party that keeps your ego and self esteem healthy, creating a neurological cocktail of fuzzy chest vibrations. Same shit as when mommy …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 01:15 PM
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As far as damage goes, what of value is being broken? I am going to say if a boy in that age range has not received meaningful direction in his life yet from the people he knows, then those people have failed him. If he does not possess the natural urges to get along properly in a well adjusted way, his genetics have failed him. If he can't figure out what is wrong and what needs to be done on his own, then his mind has failed him. So here is a boy, who is a confirmed sexual reject, that finds a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 08:19 PM
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And you get to mortgage the rest of your life away for this privilege What a joke these shit holes are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 02:07 PM
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No media mentions that reciprocated fantasy love is as rare as winning the lottery, because that would wreck the little fantasy buzz you get off the hope that it will be you one day. Go out into the world and try to love like in the movies. You'll wake up with an empty wallet, an emptier soul, and a case of herpes, and that's if you are successful
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 01:19 PM
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Health, freedom, humor, creativity, power
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:20 PM
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Some guy quoted some smarter guy here the other day When one is used to being privileged, the very notion of equal treatment becomes hate speak
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:08 PM
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Ayyy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 12:04 PM
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What a bizarre gilding If I could stop believing something that I see as reality that easily, I'd be sitting in the mountains speaking with god all day I'll keep looking for something to devote myself to, but you must be able to understand why I think how I do. The structure of our lives is designed around the care and maintenance of a sexual life and the consequences that arise from having one When you don't have a sex drive it all appears to be madness. The arguing, the love, the breakups, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 02:44 AM
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No I promised myself I'd never turn out like my father
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:28 PM
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I beat myself up because I don't like having them haha When you take a look at adulthood, it revolves around the acquisition and maintenance of your source of sex until your retirement Without this drive I don't feel like adult life is for me, but I still have to come up with a purpose for my life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:32 PM
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You just call that guy's mom a cunt?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:55 AM
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Cause women never blame their problems on men Article is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:03 PM
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Ehh when you get out of your head and into the real world you'll find that all the internet material is a flimsy reference guide and the real meat is improvisational and unstructured If you notice a guy running specific tactics he is terrible at seduction, and if you sit there thinking about TRP while on a date you are being autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:01 PM
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In the real lives of people I'd say shame causes more harm than good Think of creep shaming. What does that encourage men to do? They avoid women all together because they are a source of condemnation and pain Body shaming is just another tool of pain that will drive people away from fitness culture and into their own niche groups where they will be accepted (tumblr) The point is not to help each other. Strangers tend to want to dominate and destroy other strangers in psychology battles for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 01:26 AM
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Chemistry, character, confidence. I tend to love ball busters and bitchy women as long as they're light hearted about Cuck alert
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:41 AM
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Almost navigated that minefield, but got torched by low libido Not an unrealistic list though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:31 AM
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Violence and rape were also evolutionary advantageous relics from our past that we have moved beyond for the sake of a better society Women have gained true equality: they have been given the reigns over power and are showing themselves to be capable of the atrocious behavior that accompanies unchecked power
/r/TheRedPill20/05/15 10:43 PM
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Life is going to be bad for those people either way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:12 AM
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Good question They reject me, I hate them They are friendly to me, fuck them and their friend zone They flirt with me, go away you are annoying I am a misanthropic narcissistic prick and I don't think there is a situation that would work for me with a woman unless we argued hatefully all day and fucked with violence at night
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:40 AM
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lol @ your dreams TRP is filled with incels that think they can wish their way into godhood with strategies and hamstering Here's the real redpill: you either have it, or you don't. Your genes dictate 90% of your attractiveness, so you may as well laugh in the mirror at your ugmo 4/10 face with your messed up, depression prone mind, and pack in your dreams of that beautiful caring girlfriend that cherishes you for you, video game hobby and all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:31 PM
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You either learn to laugh at god's twisted humor or are driven mad by it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 09:23 PM
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http://www.helpguide.org/articles/grief-loss/coping-with-grief-and-loss.htm srs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 11:46 PM
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Their own inability to cope with their lack of sexual attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 08:36 PM
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If you haven't consistently worked towards it with the proper technique for a minimum of two years, you have no place commenting on what is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 02:04 PM
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She educated me in the heights of female depravity It was every redpoll cliché that you could imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 01:17 PM
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That physique you linked is within anyone's grasp barring health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:46 PM
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Yeah you're right It's the ones that drive you the craziest that leave the biggest impression
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 03:53 AM
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A modern stimulation junky, with the attention span of a squirrel, fondling their smart phone like a shiny acorn Her Instagram ego is rivalled only by her unquenchable thirst for looks, money, and status Seducing her is like walking a tight rope though a laser grid in a wind tunnel. One wavered step and you are thrown in the reject pile, as the lineup of suitors stretches twice around the block. You must navigate this maze every week to renew your vagina access pass Disregard above if you are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:24 AM
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It's strange how men and women react to the disappointment of realizing they are unattractive Some women do the self improvement thing, but you don't hear much about them The loud, angry blame layers seem to get all the attention, and that is by design, since they weren't getting any before
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 12:08 PM
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There are naturals and there are people coping with the fact that they are not. I don't buy into the idea that you can alter yourself into a Chad with strategy. Yes you can get it shape and becone a better person, but you will never be that person who is a natural
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 03:00 PM
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I'm asexual as well, and since sexuality is central to a person's identity in society you find yourself at a loss and looking for answers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 02:55 PM
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Surely there is a middle ground that the commoner can aspire to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 09:15 PM
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What part is unrealistic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 12:01 PM
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I'm no futurologist Cultural curve balls tend to surprise everyone, so I can't say anything for sure The more bored and angst filled young men with nothing but time get, the more interesting things get I'm looking forward to seeing what comes of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:50 PM
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Nah, we are overrun with incels and isolated people though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:46 PM
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If a trend is pushing forward and nothing is happening to stop it, the natural assumption would be that it will continue to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 06:24 PM
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Considering 95% of adult humans will not attain a fit, muscular body, you can see how the dad body can have mass appeal as an idea. Just like feminism though, what sounds like a great idea falls apart when a woman's eyes fall on a taut, muscular body in their vicinity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 11:54 PM
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TRP is one large coping session An incel mmo where you can go be an imaginary alpha and huddle away from the harshness of the real world If you aren't out there racking up actual experiences, whether they are rejections or lays, you are just a cowering theorycel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:39 AM
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In general yes But sometimes you run across a low quality girl demanding an outrageous price Other times you find a jewel in a pawn shop Managing your effort with wisdom and strategy is not an optional thing if you have respect for your own resources
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:09 PM
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http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2e/2e71a7c01055908aa4cb044502bc04ee395500f18b186be8321301a008710699.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:40 PM
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Not everyone has the ability to try hard enough Inferior people get inferior results out of the sexual market How is my empathy going to fix that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 12:02 PM
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If the lonely man isn't shredded he isn't trying hard enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:51 AM
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Yeah I bet you wanna know more
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 11:37 PM
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Man you girls and your rape talk Go to a con non con club and get your fix already Rape is risky beyond legal consequences. Sex is less important than my health, so the thought of actually raping someone makes no sense to my goals in life It's like dreaming of being a millionaire, and trying to get there through petty theft. You would be an idiot to adopt such a shit strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 10:45 PM
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TRP doesn't care if it has appeal to sensitive people, they aren't the target audience They moderate their approach at the point of contact with other people, not between one another Critics stroll into TRP acting like their opinion matters, and cry when nobody listens to them. You have no credit in the dating, self improvement, and seduction scenes, and whatever you say does not appeal to TRP readers at all Do you get it? A vagina does not give you a PHD in seduction. You can run your mouth as …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 04:30 PM
2

Bare minimum she has to show a long term interest in taking care of her body and isn't a sour cunt A bit of sass, some wit, and can't be PC are the delux options Stay the fuck off your smartphone as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 01:09 AM
2

Not enough info available about said interaction to make a sound analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 12:48 AM
1

120 lbs and you trying to tell me about gains Sit down before you hurt yourself If you never needed the rush from a lion safari rape fantasy you ain't tryin hard enough
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:13 AM
4

My favourite is them bitches that shave half their head. Brings out the savage inside They bounce on the elliptical, ass shifting one side to the other in them lulus I imagine a jungle. The day is hot, but there's a breeze. She thinks she's alone til you step on a branch. She looks you in the eye and time stands still. Escape is futile, but she bolts anyway. Her panicked pace takes a slight jogging effort to keep up with. You hear her cry out and a smash. Her ankle got twisted in a rut. Flipping…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:24 AM
1

They make me feel alive in this stale society
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:18 AM
1

I use rape and murder fantasies to lift heavier in the gym Full srs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:40 AM
2

It would be an army of unpaid, celibate, social justice slaves Karl Marx is erect in his grave right now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:04 PM
0

Powder your vagina AWALT You are looking for diamonds in a sulfur mine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 09:00 PM
3

I'd hire Jon Stewart to run a 2 week seminar in how to craft decent satire. Just decent though, he is not a miracle worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 08:57 PM
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Lol I took 8 months off lifting and my gains were still there, and returned after two months back in the gym. Your body is your mind. It produces chemicals that travel straight through every part of your brain, influencing your every thought. The way you think of your body is a measure of your own value. If your body is filled with shit chemicals and thoughts, you are not going to perform mentally. If you want respond to this with some garbage excuse, don't even waste my time. It is an insult to…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/15 12:06 PM
2

That hating of women is a kind of cognitive dissonance resolution. They want to have sex with attractive women, but those women treat them like dirt, use, and reject them. If you have desire for something, but it abuses the shit out of you, the mind has a hard time resolving the conflict. Some choose to deem women as evil, making their hatred of the man a product of their wicked nature. Women evil, I'm good, the mind can work with this. Others choose to see themselves as wicked. Women are fine, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:00 AM
12

You writing the new pook series op
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 02:47 AM
2

If you put the horse behind the cart and make it push, the cart will move, but you won't get anywhere useful. Sometimes the cart spins around, the horse ends up pulling from the front, and the genius behind it exclaims, "See! The pushing strategy is the superior way."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 01:11 AM
0

I passed by failing on the first question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 01:03 AM
2

Work until you make it is a more effective motto.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:30 PM
2

You are right in looking at extreme SJW behaviour as a silly phase, but it seems to be influencing our laws and quality of life in college and politics. Without a counter movement men's qol will be thrown under the bus, because they aren't being defended by SJWs or feminists at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:06 AM
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Boohoo my man isn't my human wallet whipping boy tampon. He is developing standards for our relationship and I don't want to change. They were probably dead bedroom and he wanted to die. Either she gets on board with the game plan or he finds someone who will. If withholding his commitment is abuse, then her withholding sex is also abuse. You are taking a privilege that you provide for the other person and removing it when they fail at their duties. She withdrew sex because he failed as a man. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:54 AM
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It is the women themselves who advocate the abuse by responding sexually to it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:19 AM
2

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 10:40 PM
4

Nancy would get 15 points if she cooperates with Chad and Buck ;) Would require Buck to be a Cuckold or clueless, but he'd keep his 7 points
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:38 PM
1

Hmm how does one 3 player PD? Sounds fun
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:13 PM
1

You're off on this one. Gym douches love being objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:06 PM
2

Good advice tends to be sound for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:35 PM
4

Being the milk sex is as fun a prospect as being the wine sex and having to age in alone in a basement until someone finds you palatable. There are more things to consider than only what TRP and feminism talk about. It's like listening to a debate between Sunni and Shia Muslims and picking one of those philosophies. Both sides are are in possession of half truths at best, and they both share a garbage existence based on their devotion to their lazy ideologies. As a young lady, what can the prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:47 PM
1

You must be a genetic marvel. Or you're not eating enough calories every day. If you weren't gaining weight and working out a lot, shouldn't you be shredded?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:30 PM
1

So you've been going to the gym 5+ times a week for at least 2 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 08:42 PM
0

What self improvement techniques has he tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:58 PM
3

Can women be good? Are they capable of loyalty and love?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:57 PM
8

No, but is it something that is a theme and a problem with TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:35 PM
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Give me an example of the man who can't make the cut
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:33 PM
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That your lack of success comes from a lack of work, and from having a negative opinion of yourself and the world. That women seem evil from your perspective because you have always been given the unattractive male package. They can be supportive, sweet, and give you their entire world, if you can make the cut. That when you project your loathing onto women, you are failing to accept responsibility for your lack of effort and results. TRP subreddit is filled with people that don't want to work. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 01:48 PM
1

It's ironic. One of the main scholars of the evo psych movement is also an advocate of the idea that society is moving in a positive and nonviolent direction. He wrote a book on it that I want to read, I'll start reading it today. Steven Pinker. I think Stephan is not calling for a return to our actual past, but the revival of some of its best qualities. The development of character through hardships, a defined sense of morality and virtue, and a society that takes action in the name of these id…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 12:26 AM
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Do you find it odd that the outrage is about men hating 50% of people that they have zero influence over, and not the fact that they hate themselves which they possess 100% of the control over? If you are concerned about the health of our society, I'd be more scared of that issue corrupting the way we treat each other, rather than the symptom of "misogyny", which is them expressing the loathing that they're harvesting in regards to themselves and sharing it with everyone around them. We are buil…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 11:08 PM
1

Get off your ass, get out there, and you tell us. When you get in the habit of overcoming obstacles, adversity becomes exhilarating rather than an excuse. Men who get results have the same hurdles in their way as you do, but they make the decision to give it a go anyway. Despite the embarrassment, the failure, the shame, you get tough. Little by little you succeed and gain momentum until one day you find yourself demolishing bullshit obstacles. You don't quit cause you know it takes time. You st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 11:08 PM
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You know what a TRP user sees when he reads TBP? Just another group of women talking about how TRP men aren't good enough. Confused guys go there cause they need help, and they are coming off years of being rejected and told they don't measure up. Then when they go to read your side of the story, they see the same hateful twats talking the same old shit. You think this is how change happens? You think that a strong leader spits in the face of their inferiors, or would they offer them a hand up? …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 10:36 PM
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I didn't say anything about TRP. If TBP posters are the enlightened group and TRP are foolish idiots, where are you leading them, as their ideological superiors, with your ridicule and shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:39 PM
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When are you clowns gonna graduate from satire into something of actual value? If TBP is so enlightened as to how we ought to be, than stand up and say something. There are people out there who are lost and suffering in their lives, and all you want to do is put a shoe in their face when they try and climb outta the sewer cause they got filthy down there. You want compassion? Try showing some first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 12:57 PM
2

Where da fuck you all been man? Ive never heard of that shit led alone have the acronym meme'd into my brain
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:19 AM
2

Respect. I respect a woman who is loyal, even when it ain't to me. Discipline is a sign of mental maturity. I don't want to spend time with women that have the impulse control of a child. I will not waste my time being her psychologist when her self esteem issues hit high tide. Figure out your shit, buy a vibrator, build some self esteem, and advertise that you are worthy of commitment. Any man worth a damn has seen his fair share of hoes. Do you think that he is gonna go all in on someone that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:03 AM
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Cucks gonna cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:46 AM
2

Maslow's pyramid of self actualisation. Self esteem reading and CBT work. Study of body language and flirting. I'm reading flirting for dummies and it's decent (don't judge me). Getting out into the real world and flirting with people will build your skills the fastest. Reading reddit is not actual seduction, it is a mistake to believe that it is doing much of anything besides procrastinating. I set aside one day a week where I go out and flirt all day, then I go out with friends at night. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 09:31 PM
1

Careful about denying the validity of self reported studies around here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 12:46 PM
0

I've been curious about this. A person's opinion of the sexual market place is influenced immensely by their position in it. You can guess who the sluts are by making a slut shaming troll post, but beyond that we don't know much about the reality of who is posting on all the subs. I'm white 5'11'' 195lbs. Work out 2 hrs a day and enjoy alit if attention from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 12:01 PM
2

I have my own demons to tame, but harder things have been done with bigger obstacles to overcome. The details are up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:51 AM
1

My goal as a man is to be sexually objectified
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 03:38 PM
7

The biological selection urges that women possess do have merit in selecting superior men. Who would you trust to run the show, a wavering passive-aggressive beta, or a socially and physically dominant alpha. It is not a logical process on their part, thus it is not as noble to our intellectual fetishising culture, but it has gotten the job done over the course of our existence.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 03:32 PM
1

Check your sexual privilege bitch lords
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 10:13 PM
1

I'd say a 4 or less female within the reproductive window is rare enough to not be statistically significant, and there are fewer of them than 4 or less males. If their attractiveness is based on beauty, then where does the beauty come from? Their facial aesthetics, their body composition, and their youth. Since male standards are much lower as to whom they would smash, a 6 gets to enjoy a highly active sex life, while the males function on a binary system where the threshold for success is arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:40 PM
1

Yes. It was a hypothetical question leading into the next one where I imply that they have more sexual value by default, as evidenced by their tendency to be more selective in their mate requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:07 PM
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I dunno what guys you know, but I spend at least 2 hours a day lifting and doing cardio to look good. 50% of 5 is 2.5 which would be a more realistic expectation. And yeah the average man is mediocre. If only there were a guide or resource for them to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 04:19 PM
1

Imagine if you were a young person trying to get into dating in a new environment. You go up and talk to a someone that you're attracted to, but are nervous because you don't want to mess it up, and you're not that good at flirting. You have a few awkward conversations and get frustrated that things aren't going the way you had hoped, so you take a stab at a flirtatious sexual comment to try and get something going. Boy did you fuck up. Not only do they not respond well, but they are scared and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:26 AM
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TRP rarely talks about proper flirting and body language reading. These things are the difference between success and going full autism in dating, but reddit TRP seems to be 95% about coping with lack of social skills rather than developing them so its cool
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:18 PM
3

Stats brah. No Lyon How aesthetic are you rn. For science and my inner homo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:12 PM
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Biological determinism is more of a sluthate.com ideology. Where if you are not aesthetic, you will never be successful, even with hard work. TRP gives men a more charitable chance, where biology gives you a starting point, but effort can overcome deficits. Where TRP fails is not giving women that same chance. If loser men can improve through effort, than it follows that the women should be capable of the same. All I have seen reading TRP is that women are stagnant entities that only degenerate …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:46 PM
0

Link to a good one for me. Reddit TRP sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:44 PM
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Some young guys are lacking in social skills and never learned how to deal with women. They find themselves with strong sexual urges, and no way of satisfying them. How could this be? They have always been the hero in their isolated video game fantasy lives. Talking to women should be as easy as pressing B. Wrong autist. You have to read body language, but you never learned that shit on your grind to level 80. So you combine an unforgiving marketplace with a hunger for value with a delusional re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 02:38 PM
1

Lift, think good things about yourself no matter what happens, and don't become a father accidentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 02:41 PM
2

Do you disagree with Briffault's Law when it is presented correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 04:52 PM
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Human nature is a fucked up dualism. We are slaves to our urges, yet have the power to contemplate and over rule the ones that we think aren't beneficial to our long term interests. If we want to live in a better society, we may have to take measures against our less productive urges and decide to be better than our nature. Much like the measures we take against obvious long term evils like murder and theft, we are already in the process of rethinking what is good in sexual relationships. Not by…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 04:48 PM
2

Don't get me wrong, men ignore the existence of the bottom females as much as the top females ignore the men. Hell my ignoring of the bottom females in my response shows how much I don't take them into consideration. Yes males are selective, but I think they are biased towards a physical appraisal, which is why they can rate someone as very attractive and eagerly message them based on a photo alone. While females tend to withhold higher ratings and reserve their favor until they know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 04:02 PM
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The data also shows that compared to the women, men are rated as much less attractive. Could be any number of reasons why that is. Maybe the attractive men don't need okcupid, or maybe men are worse at looking attractive. Some suggest because Okcupid sends a message when you rate someone 4+ stars that women would do it less since they didn't want to send a message. I think it would be silly to dismiss the data offhand though, as it seems to intuitively represent the real life experience of femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 03:43 PM
1

Your analysis is on point with my intuitions about the game. Because men are judged on more levels than physical attractiveness, it is rare to see an 8+/10 that fulfils all female desires. Your reads of body language, your social intuition, humor, social proof, wealth, taste, hobbies, gate, confidence, self esteem, are all on trial at the same time when a woman gives you the sniff test. If you fail on any level, you are not a hot guy. This does not stop women from settling on the best they can g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 03:09 PM
2

How hard are you working on your SMV in relation to the bracket of woman you're attracted to? Your accumulated value is a direct measure of how attractive you are. If you don't have the value to trade for the top tier pussy, why would you expect to get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 03:35 AM
0

Manlet hamstering, nothing more. If you want to succeed excuses need to be removed from your vocabulary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:35 AM
1

I'm a man and I toss out fitness tests when I'm curious about a person's capacities. Such as tossing out a sexual or politically incorrect joke to a new acquaintance to see their reaction. If they get awkward or offended I know that I won't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 12:32 AM
0

If you define yourself based on your distance from something, what could be said is at the center of your universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 11:45 AM
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A man losing his value is like a woman losing her body
/r/TheRedPill02/04/15 11:34 AM
9

Cause it ain't just about the sex. It's about the struggle. It's about someone telling you that you aren't good enough, and you not accepting that. It's about navigating psychological mazes and ambiguous signals. It's about being the best and knowing it. Also, you shouldn't speak so poorly of women. Such harsh misogyny is damaging to women's self esteem. They are people too you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 09:20 PM
1

Nice thread. Reminds me of the power talk dynamics discussed on TRP a while ago
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 12:55 PM
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In real life, nah. I'm able to read an idea and recognize when it is idiotic, so 95% of TRP posts don't even penetrate my mental barrier. I hold high standards for hpw I let people treat me, and even higher standards in how I treat myself. I'm in full control of my self esteem and refuse to sell that for pussy validation. That means no friend zone, no beta bucks, and no groveling in any way. Where I differ from TRP is that I believe women have variety in their characters and agency over themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 04:58 PM
4

They think I hate the women, but I just wanna get it in and see dat look on her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 01:00 PM
1

Yeah but what about for us sleezy niggas
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 12:02 PM
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Yes but TRP is hijacking the words for their own purpose. You are putting the cart in front of the horse. Human expression defines and drives the creation of language, language defines only the most flimsy minds of its speakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 12:57 PM
2

I believe in Maslow's self actualization pyramid and shoving my dick down a wide variety of throats. TRP has an awkward tendency of denying women any personal agency, and it weakens the accuracy of their predictions. They do hit on a compelling idea often enough to not make the whole thing worthless though. As for theories in general, it is better to make a failed attempt at one and correct your mistakes than to accept your failed position in life and not try at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 02:30 AM
3

Need full glute spread to verify
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 12:59 AM
13

I can date down wearing a burlap sack and a Nazi hat. You need no strategy to date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:47 PM
2

Can't say you like steak if all you've had are hamburgers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:42 PM
3

Do you judge others for needing some guidance in their lives? Brb I'm having an existential crisis, grabbing a glass of water.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:21 PM
2

Have empathy, be authentic, be mindful of your own absurdity with a light heart, and engage in weekly hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:15 PM
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Depends who said cock is attached to. I think the spirit of his comment is have a positive sense of your own value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:11 PM
10

Yep. I'd immediately start auditioning replacements and practising my "Let's just be friends" speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 06:09 PM
6

An attractive man being flirtatious is a positive social norm. An ugly man being flirtatious is cringe and not an accepted norm. An ugly man being a nice guy (read not overtly sexual) is the proper social norm for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 12:54 AM
-2

In your mind preferably. Bust it out whenever some incel is acting up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 12:51 AM
2

Nice summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:24 PM
15

Nice reframe there. Why live in fear of the people that despise you? It is logical to live in service to the people with whom you can exchange mutual value. To censor and shut off your sexuality is living to the expectations of your enemies. For you and your allies to prosper, you need the courage to demolish those fears and create connections.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/15 04:06 AM
2

When you place the arguments next to each other and strip them of titles, one is more logical and balanced than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 08:21 PM
1

Don't strike them pallets if you want a tasty palate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 01:13 PM
1

Oh for sure. Homosexuals give me the same feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:40 AM
0

There is an inherent disgust that I feel when someone acts like a slut. It strikes the pallet as a desperate, low impulse controlling, socially inept, intellectually stunted activity reserved exclusively for those with damaged self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:51 AM
3

There's gotta be a third zone. The Nopeeee Zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:03 AM
6

Hell I woulda slept with you after that showing. Good work all around.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/15 01:39 AM
17

So much of the shit on TRP is based on observing the losers of the world. Oh look that sexually abused schizophrenic chick just cheated on her low self-esteemed doormat of a boyfriend with that cocaine snorting date rapist. All women are like that, huehuehue. Meanwhile almost every chick I know are serial monogamists. Yeah hypergamy is a thing, I've been auditioned for a branch swing a few times, but there are more people than not that pass on fucking their arrangement up. That includes the thun…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 01:29 AM
1

I remember when I thought women weren't into sex, then I noticed they weren't into sex with my lazy, scrawny, autist ass. They pattern their behavior around their sex lives as much or more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 01:05 AM
4

Social constructs are as much a product of biology as anything we do, but with a difference, they can be changed more drastically and with greater speed than other biological structures. TRP is masquerading as a biological science, which it does have sprinklings of, but it is 99% comprised of social conjectures. Like feminism, or democracy, it is trying to shift the frame of belief in favour of the originating group.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:12 PM
2

Attraction is nonnegotiable in both directions: she can't decide to want you and you can't decide to stop responding sexually when you look at her tight body in those fucking black lulus that she never stops wearing. They must smell fucking awful but somehow you know you would sink your face right in them without a moment's hesitation if she wouldn't scream. Did she just smile at me? Was that a sign? No you have to stop thinking like this. She would make it clear if she wanted to have sex. Fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:08 AM
0

Some solid critiques in there, although I'd say you're purple or unmedicated in your approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:11 AM
1

I don't want a funeral. Everyone can fuck off and they can throw the body in an incinerator. Sitting around fantasizing about a dream funeral is more pointless than some hamster blubbering on about her dream wedding. I recently carried my step father's coffin into the ground, and the entire thing was a bullshit, gynocentric cash grab. He wouldn't show up to that shit if he weren't dead, because sitting around entrenched in pity is for faggots. I didn't even read your post, because every time som…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 07:26 PM
12

Since I have become a gender hologram I have retroactively rescinded consent in all of my previous sexual engagements. I was not fully aware of my true form and thus was not in a position to make a continued and enthusiastic gesture of consent. In regards to your request, I will send your regards to all of my rapists when I inform them of my updated gender status and their subsequent prosecution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 03:29 PM
4

So what you are saying is that because of computers and economic activity is that the human tradition of social monogamy can be discarded in favor of an orgy system that betas still won't be invited to. Seems like a pointless gesture. These orgys already exist, they are covert and exclusive though. My moonshine guy is an orgy guy. Fucker has a massive cock and cleans up at those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 03:18 PM
12

Is it BS though? Look at how many societies slut shame: all of them. Thus the shamers must have out survived the non shamers. Thus from an evolutionary perspective shaming is an effective survival trait and has produced the most dominant societies. Are you trying to destroy society? Are you some sort of anti bio truth terrorist trying to corrupt our heritage in order to sneak your shifty little seed into the gene pool? My biology has shown me the truth, and it tells me that your truths are lies …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 01:59 PM
7

How did you know I sexually identify as a gender hologram? I'm somewhat triggered by your choosing to put sir ahead of madam, but even the best of us can't escape our patriarchal upbringings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 01:42 PM
4

Nah man according to evo psych slut shaming is an unavoidable communal reaction designed to keep women's vaginas from getting filled with disease and wiping out the tribe. Its tough to hunt and gather when the entire tribe has the itch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 01:23 AM
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Nah man what we should do is have them all jizz in a huge vatt and subject the slurry to various environmental "shit tests". The surviving specimens will be placed in a multi phallused, vibrator bot that will penetrate the woman's every orifice at the appropriate range between ravishment and rape. Images of the top 5% of men will be played via an Oculus Rift, as scents of cigars and whiskey are misted into the air. You can flavor the specimen with fantastic flavours like misogyny mint, alpha app…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 01:00 AM
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This week on Rape Debate: Is there any facet of rape that we haven't discussed to the point of nausea? Op says no!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:05 PM
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I like this place. I disagree with both sides on many issues and putting my objections into words helps me understand the ideas more. Here I won't get censored for disagreeing with either side. I'd like to see more quality content here. Things like FRs from the BP perspective, self improvement posts that aren't 100% RP, or scientific articles that offer a viewpoint outside of TRP/Anti TRP framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:28 PM
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That being Alpha is the pinnacle of existence. The pursuit comes off like a bad childhood fantasy. The half baked metaphors and Fight Club references are so bland. At times, they make me cringe at their inability to distinguish how tacky their Jaden-esque ponderings are. The self flagellation of the Beta label creates a needless habitual shame, further compounding destructive self esteem damage. They will never feel fulfilled because they will never stop believing that they are shit, and that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 02:50 AM
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If you reject the moral premise that killing sentient beings for food is unethical then you have no reason to abstain. I've personally hunted and killed, it doesn't affect me, and the sausage was delicious. If in the future there becomes a meat alternative (lab grown) I would have no problem eating that. As it stands I'm not willing to compromise my strength and energy for idealism that isn't important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 12:35 PM
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Thought the same thing. He has success. Thinks bad things about himself. Has more success. Finds reasons to reframe his triumphs as not his doing or not genuine. Until OP starts thinking about his sexual self in a more positive way he will never have any peace.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/15 11:46 AM
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You have no interest in considering any view outside of your agenda, so even a glib response is an over investment on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:51 PM
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Going all in on any ideology puts you in a compromised position as you forfeit your individual capability to make pragmatic decisions by outsourcing mental effort to an exterior source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:08 PM
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No woman has ever qualified for that specific role. They are lobbying to lower the standards for elite forces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:09 AM
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Financial destruction. TRP advocates following your own agenda. It would make the most sense to not get paid for failing at something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:06 AM
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Military is competitive killing. You don't get to gender segregate in battle. Women can join the military in many ways, why is the subjugation of elite marine standards important? Because it is a feminist power trip. They want to use their powerful social movement to subvert the standards of the most masculine thing they can think of. If feminists want to help war efforts they should be sent as spies into enemy camps so they can undermine them from within.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:52 AM
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I'm a tradesmen now. If you hate office culture and like being physical the job is perfect.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/15 04:38 PM
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Only place I see men getting ruined in my life is in divorce litigation. Otherwise, Western life is good. There are shitty ideologies being pushed around, but no one can cut out my tongue for speaking against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 08:56 PM
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Do you want to LTR or short term with this guy? Is he masculine or more effeminate? How attractive would you consider yourself compared to him? Many factors can be influencing this exchange beyond the words spoken.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/15 02:04 PM
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I ain't judgin', I'd be a hypocrite if I were.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 09:57 PM
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Abuse in general. It is an inevitable part of the social experience. TRP isn't just about sex, it is self esteem therapy for the narcissistic urge. The question is why does TRP not care about the average success story. I say it's because average does not satisfy the craving for the exceptional, the self esteem tingles that only rampant personal superiority can give.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 12:12 PM
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Excellent work. Your satire was indistinguishable from actual idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 03:17 AM
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Supreme sexual success for a man is to be an SMV millionaire that can pull any woman he makes eye contact with by virtue of the quality of his existence. It is the ultimate narcissistic wet dream. The unending ride of self esteem garnered by superiority over others. This personality quirk emerges as a coping response to past feelings of inadequacy incited from abuse by peers and other sources of self esteem damage. It is one strategy amongst many used to cope with the stresses of the human condi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 03:11 AM
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But low effort shit posting is the status quo. I'd suggest something more revelational than a flamboyant, "Hey everyone I'm here now, here's the same shit you've cringed through a thousand times", if you wish to defy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 01:02 AM
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Talk less, read more, decide for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 10:53 PM
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Anxiety and passivity. Low testosterone, reclusiveness, lack of physical and social activity. Social awkwardness stemming from those tendencies, and the subsequent creep shaming from people in response to their sexuality. Self esteem bankruptcy. Lack of education on how to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 10:51 PM
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Are there large satire protest communities devoted to them too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:16 PM
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When I pet my cat does that mean I am discriminating against all other animals? No. Racism is intentional discrimination against ethnic groups through active persecution against them. Real old fashioned racism, not this coolaid tumblr phantom oppression bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:09 PM
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It is strange, why do people resent TRP, and not other sub reddits devoted to racism, rape, and murder? It is because people don't actually care when other people suffer, they care when they personally are hurt (empathy is a form of personal pain caused by witnessing the suffering of someone else. If no personal pain occurred, there would be no empathy). TRP hurts many people on a personal level by attacking the most ego-sensitive quality a person has: their sexual self esteem. The urge to respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 02:32 AM
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I'm not sure, but I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:34 AM
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We should put them in camps to prevent them from touching women. Sure society will collapse but hey at least our corpses will look nice. Certainly a better looking society is a more virtuous and productive one. That's how it works cause I said so. Also, it is impossible for beta males to have variance in the traits of their children. Look at how identical all siblings are. Genetic determinism obviously accounts for 100% of a person's contribution to society. How could we have been so wrong for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 09:11 PM
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The label itself is an attack on your character, and an attempt at censorship through shame. Indifference and defiance are ways of not adopting your opponent's frame, or even better, shattering their stance with a skilful retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 01:38 AM
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I think it's hilarious that people chase 8/10 women, then begrudge them for only being attracted to the top 20% of men. Do the math there boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:41 AM
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If you get your shit together it gets pretty easy as a guy as well. Takes some work to get there, but once you develop good habits living is easier than before. Why is this an important question? The only implications that I can draw is you're either hinting that women are lazy or that men should be pitied; both of which are petty musings of someone more interested in blame than success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 12:18 AM
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Would you agree that taking women off the pedestal is a good thing for both men and women? I find desperate behaviour makes me cringe to my core, but it has had the effect of making me indifferent to the whole courtship process.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:28 PM
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Habits create a pattern of behaviour. If a girl is a serial LTR partner, then she will be practiced in LTR behaviour and more suited to the role. If a woman has a short term mating pattern, then she will have the habits that accompany that life style. If you are in the market for a wife, then hire the person best qualified for the job. You would be a poor manager of your life to do otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 11:20 PM
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I've changed my mind. You sound like my sister more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 06:40 PM
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Parental investment and monogamy are two different things. You can have heavy maternal investment with moderate to negligible paternal investment and still have a father who has multiple women under his care. Our cognitive abilities have muddied the selective waters. As such, we cannot make direct comparisons between ourselves and voles because our minds completely change mating dynamic to the point of being unique to humanity. If this is true, then human relationships must be studied in referen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 06:38 PM
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Both of them could be unattractive, which would lessen their dreams of hypergamy. The kids never know the full story either. 40 years is a long time for all sorts of bullshit to go down, and dad sounds like a cuckold, so he wouldn't walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 03:01 PM
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You sound like my mother. In societies where monogamy performed its function, divorce for personal differences was not an option, and adultery was punishable by death. The moral value of that system was bankrupt, but it served its function at the cost of female misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:40 PM
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http://ironshrink.com/2009/07/how-can-i-embrace-monogamy-while-my-genes-crave-polygamy/ Monogamy is lobbied for by lower SMV men as a non violent way to limit high SMV men to one partner. No matter what the case, being a low SMV man is a measly existence. I'd see the slut shaming as an act of retribution in response to the embarrassment of rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:19 PM
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The neurosis that has caused the need for TRP could get worse as we live more digitally. Cyber interaction is not an adequate replacement for the face to face development and maintenance of effective social skills. Women are appalled by social ineptitude on a sexual level. Forced celibacy will bankrupt male self esteem and they will need something to try and garner some hope. TRP or some equivalent will fill the gap or the men will casturate themselves with creep shame and never talk to women ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 11:20 PM
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Egalitarian relationships are cool, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:50 PM
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A useful post with a blue flair? What year is it? Where am I.Who won the Super Bowl? Am I having a stroke? Has my perception of color inverted? Anyway. The nuance thing is nice, but we need actionable generalizations here. Who am I going to blame all my problems on if you keep on putting a face to women and minorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:12 AM
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TRP is a guide for narcissists, written by sociopaths, on how to fuck psychopaths. It is good at what it does, so why are we mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:49 PM
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I decide of course. I have revoked women's ability to breed with you until you do as I say. When is the last time you had sex? Exactly. Don't piss me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:43 PM
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Agreed. I was a drunken idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:13 PM
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Steven Pinker had to put a paragraph in How the Mind Works about how the claims he made about gender differences are not meant to disparage women or their capabilities. He made that statement because "of the current academic climate". These scholars have to watch what they say or they get railroaded as misogynists. That is why they haven't lifted the dirty rock of evo psych in gender roles any further. It would be like doing a paper on the cognitive inabilities of the African continent. They are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 01:07 PM
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http://vimeo.com/19707588 Shown in this film are internationally renowned scholars claiming that there is a psychological difference between men and women. It isn't just TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 04:54 AM
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I've become more interested in the philosophical study of ethics as a result of TRP. I'd say to centre your world view on a base of sexual strategy, whether red or blue, is not the most effective way to live a fulfilling life; although it is an important part of building a healthy sense of self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 10:37 PM
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As an omnipotent, intergalactic, gender cthulu of the multiverse I have slayers of the gods pursuing me throughout all of eternity at the same time. I can confirm that when I hold frame that I instill more despair and apocalypse at a much greater efficiency than when I bestow fortune and favours on to the under races.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 02:01 PM
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In order to be a MGTOW you must have the option to participate in the first place. Otherwise you are a champion with a trophy that you bought at a garage sale.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 03:48 AM
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Your emotions got all over my shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:19 PM
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Nice shitposting friend. Pleasure is used as the motivator for sex. Pleasure can be experienced without reproduction occurring. Pregnancy is not the only goal of sex. There are many psychological and social facets to sexual relationships, one of the most important being self esteem. Reproduction is a biproduct of sex, but the motivators used by nature are usually not the idea of reproducing itself. So when we do nonreproductive sex acts, we are indulging in the pleasures of the act, rather than …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:44 PM
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It is a device meant to drive women away from the forum. Women tend to latch onto the hurtful concepts while men just don't care. It's a smokescreen to keep the feels before reals crowd from shitposting, and to keep TRP from getting censored through tone policing; much like what has happened in the real world where men are called down for openly speaking about sexual strategy. If you search mod posts from the past they have openly said this is their intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:00 PM
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Jerk is the wrong way of describing the attitude. It is having respect for yourself to the point of where you will push people down, verbally or physically, for trying to control, disrespect, or damage you in some way. When confident people are called jerks it is because some passive aggressive twat is pouting that they didn't get their way. Social situations must never be taken at face value, especially when something is at stake. To cluelessly bumble through them and wonder why you get destroy…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 12:46 PM
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This is so exceedingly rare that it is not even worth considering if you're interested in general sexual behaviour. Let's study pedophiles next! Oh look he seduced her by acting nice, giving candy and rides. BP dating strategies must work!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:16 AM
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A strong jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:10 AM
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I can't tell if you are a text bot based off tumblr-isms or a human troll. What an age we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:55 AM
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Could be that our society is failing to produce quality people in general. Neither side seems overly pleased with the other. These discussions revolve around treating each other like a commodity, and they have no interest in building quality relationships or communities. Or they in love criticising and complaining about other groups not putting their best interests in mind. Why would anyone place the needs of others ahead of their own when people aren't returning the favour? If both groups are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:09 PM
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For a group that takes such exception to the use of broad generalizations, and advocates consideration of the individual, it would be an ideological misstep to imply that all members of TRP have such mismanagement of their appearance. As intellectually honest as TBP is though, I am certain that was not their intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 01:16 AM
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You do make an interesting point. No one would consider the artistic soul in his skinny jeans, thick framed glasses, and lumberjack shirt to be "alpha", yet women tend to be attracted to them because of their "deep emotional connection".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:48 PM
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It would be sad and narrow thinking to limit yourself to the ideologies of a single niche group that focuses on sexual strategy and feminist culture. We as a culture have been debating what is right and what we ought to do for millennia, and to think a group of sex starved redditors has a monopoly on common sense is the height of ignorance. TRP has value, but it is not even close to a comprehensive path to happiness. It is narrow in focus, and has no focus on how to benefit society and to succee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 02:06 PM
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The two groups strike me as people who are missing something. TRP is missing positive female interaction to the point of thinking it can't exist. BP women reinforce that belief by treating them in a way that RPers believe all women are: filled with contempt and judgement. My understanding of BPers is less sophisticated, but they strike me as a reactionary hate group. This doesn't dehumanise them, as hatred is an important part of the human experience that shouldn't be ignored, but it doesn't tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:40 PM
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It's worth reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:22 PM
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Shit test failed. ;) According to RP thesis, they will not respect your apology, view it as a sign of weakness, and attack you with vicious malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:08 AM
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There is enough value in this sub to justify its existence. You can't sneeze in TBP without getting banned, and they can't talk over in trp without getting swarmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 05:57 PM
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I agree that transgender cases provide a strong argument for the biological view of gender identity, but have a question. If gender roles are purely biological, wouldn't feminism and other social pressures have no power over gender issues? If biology has absolute power over our sexual roles, then a beta fighting to become an alpha would be as absurd as a lesbian trying to grow a dick through reading Hemingway. Do biological and social explanations of sexual behavior need to even be considered as…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 03:24 AM
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Do you understand what I'm talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 05:05 PM
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Seems like you highlighted a potential fallacy in PC thinking. If you deny that men and women are different in cognitive structure, than you disregard the legitimacy of transgender instincts. If you accept the transgender evidence, then you accept the cognitive differences between the male and female experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 02:18 PM
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None of the men you associate with have trouble with women. That is a strange cooincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 02:11 PM
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I read that on r/philosophy and was disgusted how a simple minded piece of shit like that can lay waste to what could of potentially have been a revolutionary advancement in neuroscience. This is another reason why TRP is important to society. Beta males need to be told that there is a different option than selling your soul for pussy.
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