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Me here, just broke up with someone who was definitely too big for regularly scheduled sex and I don’t want it again! Average to like at max an inch above will be more than fine. :’)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:27 PM
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We were together for a bit over a year. He was sad, but didn’t think our lifestyle goals were an issue since ”once I’d travelled around and gotten it out of my system I’d want to settle in our hometown and he wouldn’t have to change his lifestyle to be with me” lol. My main issue was just that I had so much more fun and felt like myself around other people than I did around him, so I felt little motivation to actually spend time together when being with my friends and family was more fun and rew…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:37 PM
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Broke up w him because of incompatible lifestyles and personalities, goals, wasn’t in love etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:43 AM
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Wow… that’s really different from what I grew up with, and kind of sounds like it sucks. :/ Sex can be such a beautiful experience and learning together is something you’ll do no matter how many partners you’ve had. Unfortunate that that isn’t valued highly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:40 PM
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I’m telling you, you most likely will, and I’m also telling you that you will most likely have to lie your whole life to your future girl if you do go to a prostitute because I can not imagine a bigger dealbreaker than ”I lost my virginity to a prostitute”, especially if I myself was orthodox and waited for somebody special…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:31 PM
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I can have chemistry with almost anyone over text and then have that fizzle out in real life. When you can rethink what you want to say before saying it it’s a lot easier to be charming and charismatic than when you’re on the spot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:29 PM
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Right? And the US-centricity of reddit becomes clear here lol, in my country I’ve not yet met a man who wasn’t of the ”since she gets pregnant it’s her choice”-opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:24 PM
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Sounds like they didn't actually like the kinky shit then and don't wanna do things they don't like anymore lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:43 PM
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I mean the event is marketed as being for people who want to find the one but are tired of dating apps. I still find it weird that the 45 year olds would think a 25 year old is who they're there to meet when the most common age there seemed to be 30-40...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:46 PM
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It's just everyone mingles around and you get a sticky note to put on your clothes and write the chosen ice breaker of the night, like "a fun fact about yourself". So there's really no way to know who's into what age range if you don't talk to them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:28 PM
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My friend and I went to this singles event with mixed ages between 20-45. She’s open to meeting someone for a relationship and multiple men aged 40+ hit on her while she is 25. In my mind it is obvious that a 25 year old normal person (i.e not a celebrity) would not be interested in dating a 45-year old, but clearly it isn’t lol. How soon do you tell that man you’re not interested and should she say it’s because he’s too old?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:23 PM
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Well duh. I never disagreed that men have it harder, obviously men are less picky and women can then be more picky. Finding someone you yourself vibe well with and are attracted to is the hard part as a woman, as a man even getting a woman to talk to you is difficult let alone know if you vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:37 PM
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No, I think for a relationship to be pleasant you have to actually like being around the person as much as you do other people or more. I've never had that so I always preferred spending time with friends and family, and at that point I see no reason to be with that person. Shared goals and values are obviously important too. I don't think I'm describing a perfect person, or looking for one. Most my friends are partnered with people who are different from themselves in many ways, but they share …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:35 PM
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In the future if I want someone to spend my life with I want a man who I’m attracted to, who I get along with, laugh with, and who has similar life goals/priorities as me - preferably similar education level but I’m a bit flexible there. I don’t want to date an ugly man, but he does not have to be tall or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:20 PM
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Same things that makes most women incompatible with most men. Different political and religious views, different goals for the future, views on kids, cultural background, sense of humour, just general personality traits that makes up what a person is like, interests etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:18 PM
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After I grew out of being ugly which happened in last year of high school, dating was easy on apps. I never struggled to find a guy who was into me and I've never dated any asshole guys, they've all been lovely and sweet, and attractive to me. I've been in two relationships lasting over 1 year and now I'm single planning to be for many years. I never get or got approached by strangers, if meeting strangers happened it was always me who approached. I now have two past flings who I am sporadically…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:22 PM
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Same! I want a cat badly but if my cat doesn't love me like I love it I would not know what to do with myself. It's just a cute but ungrateful freeloader at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:25 AM
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Find a kickass master's project for the spring, finish my degree, work in a lab, go to every conference I can and breathe in the knowledge like it's air
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:23 AM
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No, but I can tell when a woman looks good
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:56 PM
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Loooool if he’s sufficiently feminine? If he’s masculine and gay would you be scared he’s just a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:48 PM
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”Damn, she fine. I wonder where she got her jeans/bag/jacket/makeup/hair done/workout from”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:47 PM
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In this sense I’m not a girl’s girl either. I’m a girl’s girl in that I love women in general, I like how most women I meet are, think, speak, act etc. but I am surrounded by good people so this is easy. I support other women, check myself when I’m jealous of other women, go out of my way to encourage other women but I will not encourage bad behaviour or excuse it with ”but she’s just a girl!”. That is infantilizing, and stupid and in my own feminist opinion, not conductive to feminism. Like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:45 PM
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Yeeessss very good comparison!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 09:25 AM
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They are not ALL lying, genuinely the men I date have for the most part been muscular and we both share weightlifting as a hobby. Multiple of my friends show zero interest in muscular men. Zero, like they never dated them, never hooked up with them, when they get hit on by them they always say no and tell me that's not their type. They date and sleep with skinny men, and that's their type. Genuinely skinny. But on a general level, yes women do find muscles attractive and since there must be some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:08 AM
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Compatibility matters more for a LTR than looks, but to get there you have to be attracted first. A relationship can't survive on "raw attraction" alone, plus if women stay hooked on those dudes it's because they either find them too hot to leave, are too scared to leave, or think they're compatible in a lot of ways that makes them not want to leave, are scared of being lonely etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:56 PM
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What women in Scandinavia create communes for short men... I've never heard of that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:04 AM
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Cheating obviously. A fantasy is just a fantasy and cheating is heartbreaking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:03 AM
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Yes, but hot enough to date is not usually the issue lol, most guys who are hot enough to date you're not compatible with for other reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 09:02 AM
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I wouldn't want a guy to call me wife material if it generally meant he sees me as someone to raise his kids and cook for him, not someone he wants to have physical intimacy with and who he finds sexy. If some super hot guy is like "but you're wife material, I don't wanna sleep with you" that's not a compliment coz I would want him to want to sleep with me. I feel like this is also the male take
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:20 AM
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My friends are self aware enough that they don't do that, and they're happy with their own partners lol. If I find my partner attractive and my friends do too that's fine, I trust them and just looking is really not an issue. If they ever got touchy and flirty, or talk about how hot he is I would talk to them and tell them to stop. But if you're not comfortable with that tell them! I can absolutely see how that would be so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:17 AM
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No, I think you try to read them, if you’re unsure you make a move somehow, see ow they react and if they don’t move away just go for it (or just ask them, the worst that can happen is they’re not into it)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:34 AM
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Aah I see, I really mean if you're already on a date with a woman and you want to kiss her. I feel like that's a pretty safe place to assume her body language is true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:42 AM
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Do they assume that though? And is it a bad thing to get to know the people in your partner's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:30 AM
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Are you telling me you can not guess at all when a man or woman is interested in another person based on them being more/less engaged, facial expression, how they're standing, how they look at the other etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:28 AM
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Because they assume you'd have more fun if another man was there? I would a million times rather hang out with my boyfriend's female friends, or male friends' partners, than his male friends because I usually think it's more fun when women are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:10 AM
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The important thing is just reading body language right before so it's not a chocking out of the blue thing. Did closeness increase between us, are we sitting closer, more eye contact, looking at each others lips, touching some way already? Is there vibe? Then a "god I wanna kiss you, can I?" Could be deathly hot, but in my experience if you're already at that point you know you don't usually have to ask since it's pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:05 AM
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"This doesn’t mean they are more virtuous." Finally someone else also said it, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:16 PM
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My work and school isn't a transactional quality though, it absolutely is who I am. I'm 6 months away from finishing my master's degree, which I've been working towards during the most formative years of my life. It's a passion, it's a way of life that is very special, and it is a pretty big part of who I am, who I want to be and what I want to contribute with to the world I'd like it if guys cared more about it, and I don't see what "non-transactional qualities" it is in women that you think me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:13 PM
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Yep, but living in South Korea for example, the girls wore short short SHORT skirts and that was fine and normal but god forbid they showed some cleavage, like that was really whore behaviour lol. It really is pretty cultural what is sexualized clothing and what isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:06 PM
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Hence why I said huge, not big lol. I just assume "holiday dick" would be freakish
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:12 PM
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That's cool, and I'd probably agree that's a thing because I can not do huge for a relationship, painful sex is not for me. But I never heard the terms before
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:28 PM
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Never heard of it in real life ever
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:50 PM
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I actually agree with you, but of course it can feel shitty still to loose a friend when you thought things were fine. Being hurt from rejection is valid still, but I don't think the other person is also wrong for feeling hurt that their friend doesn't want to be a friend anymore, especially if it's a close friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:53 AM
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Based on the people I've met and the people around me I'm not an exception, and the three or so people who have complained about their exes being bad people have done so rightfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:49 AM
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I'm not alone though, I have plenty of other great people I'm close with for company, support, fun :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:22 PM
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I have plenty of friends and am really close with my mom and sister, I am not worried :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:38 AM
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I'm so happy right now, I feel like I haven't been this happy in years. I will get too comfortable to ever get a partner again lol, being without a relationship is genuinely the best - I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, with no one to have to compromise with or let know before and fuuuuuuck it is so nice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:12 PM
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I do not no, I do see some on the street out and about but maybe one or two couples a day that I notice where the guy is clearly hotter. The others are usually pretty equal looks wise or the woman is more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:07 PM
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Do you want her to be your girlfriend? Is so go with it, if not, don't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:06 PM
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I don’t know, do you like to go out to eat? I really do, love to cook, love to eat out, love cheeses and baked things so someone who doesn’t care at all about food would not be compatible with me. But I’ve met multiple people, men and women who seem to think eating is a necessary evil and have said they would rather just take a pill three times a day to get the nutrients they need
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:41 PM
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I highly doubt that still, and there's no way to find out. And maybe it's my age talking but he is not that hot now, I mean he looks old? There are other younger celebrities or celebrities who just look better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:44 AM
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I don’t think the issue is because the women are hot, I think people have an issue with a 45 year old dating someone fresh out of college, and I believe most women would think a middle aged woman dating 20 year old men is creepy the same way. It’s the age difference, not the hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:20 AM
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Or - and hear me out - the only standards that are weird in men is wanting 20 year olds when you’re far above 20… and that would be weird for a 40 year old woman to want too so that’s not gendered. Not wanting to date a fat woman? In general people are less accepting of hypocritical preferences in men than in women, but a lot of that is based in gender roles and eradicating them would decrease the hypocrisy I’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:08 AM
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I empathize strongly. I can imagine it being awful to want connection, a partner, to experience things with them etc. etc. It’s not hard to put yourself in someone elses shoes, but my empathy doesn’t come with lowering my own standards or being open to sleep with or date people I’m not attracted to. Nor will I encourage other women to, and it’s been made clear that then the empathy doesn’t really matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:34 AM
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Thank youuuu. Every post about wanting sympathy from women boils down to this - while a lot of guys say they want sympathy, the main issue is not getting the sex they want and that won’t change unfortunately so sympathy won’t be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:31 AM
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Getting a man to hookup with you? Easiest thing in the world, I take back anything I said. Asked a hot guy at the bar tonight how to get a casual relationship as a woman, he suggested I just ask "do you wanna fuck?" and said no man would say no to me for that. Asked him if he wanted to fuck, he laughed and said yes, boom. Done deal!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:24 PM
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It was all my side. I felt, and still feel, that I had a hard time being myself around them - not because of how they were but because of how I am. They were wonderful people, but not the right people for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:53 PM
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That's weird, I have none and my friends have none either...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:04 PM
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A man who leaves his pregnant wife is surely the lowest value man there is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:04 AM
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... Men still stick their dick in crazy tho? If they're hot enough, so. And plenty of women do take accountability I'm sure for dating guys who turn out to be assholes but you just don't hear them complaining online
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 06:52 AM
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Very true, men and women ignore shitty behaviours in people they find attractive enough. Unfortunate, but nature is cruel lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:43 PM
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At an age and in last year of university where most people just have found someone they wanna be with long term I guess and I've just realized relationships are not, and maybe never will be for me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:36 PM
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Wooooord, all the women into timothee chalamet's body vs those into henry cavill's body lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:14 PM
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I feel like I have the opposite issue now of women. As a recently single woman, all the guys around me are either in long term relationships or want relationships. It feels like the odds of finding a hot guy in my area who is relatively decent for something casual/just sex are zero to none...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:07 PM
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Oh well then that's ludicrous, but again, I don't think that's what blue pill is per definition...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:12 PM
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Well there is no way blue pill claims getting a girlfriend as a balding fat guy is just as easy as it is for a tall hunky man with hair as long as you're nice lol, is that what they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:09 PM
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They say all of that doesn't matter? I've not heard that, but I have heard that personality matters more for maintaining a relationship (with a sane person lol) and that is true, attraction will only get your foot in the door. But okay then I don't agree with blue pill, but I can't say that's the definition I've heard myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:52 PM
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Absolutely agree, 100%!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:50 PM
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So then what do you think blue pill believes that is different from red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:45 PM
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No because preferences vary from person to person, but the number of men who have very few women into them is probably bigger than the nr of women who no one is into. The nr of men all women are into is also smaller. Like most stats with women, things are generally less diverse, but that doesn't mean all women are only attracted to 6+ foot white men with shoulder to hip ratio above 0.7 who earn six figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:44 PM
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I have a different type from all of my friends. One is into chubby black guys who look kind of feminine, I am not. Another is into guys who have a skater ish style, are very skinny, look kind of grunge, I am also generally not. I don't consider myself having a type since the guys I've been genuinely into have varied in ethnicity, height, build, and personality but I know every time they bring home some guy it's 100% never someone I would date or hook up with myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:42 PM
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Right? OP why not just whisper "do you want me to do XYZ in her ear"? Any partner who asked do you want me to fuck you has been an instant "uh huh yes please right now" from me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:35 PM
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I know a fuck ton of men who play counter strike and love paintball but don't actually wanna go to war. Weird right?? If you're not into CNC (neither am I) but you want a kinky girlfriend, just be very upfront with not being into specifically cnc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:33 PM
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I'm between choosing a master thesis (STEM) where one possible project is super independent work, very little supervision but they want good results and have high demands. I'm worried I'm not qualified to apply for it while also worried I'm selling myself short, and that if I just really applied myself I could do it. Should I apply for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:31 PM
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Now I'm no pill but I can see why blue pill believes in it because I see men who are not tall, rich, Chad-looking in relationships with women who talk them up and are in love with them around me everywhere. Both in personal life and out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:30 PM
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"contrary to popular belief" he says in a subreddit where the number one sentiment being regurgitated is that women are only into Chad lol. Yes, women on dating apps pick the most physically attractive men because there are way more men than women so thet can be million times more picky than men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:14 PM
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Weird to have never been on a date/kissed/hooked up/relationship... depends on circumstances. Lived at home, strict parents, religious background, studies etc. but in general I'd say around 26-27 ish?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:32 PM
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Way to help with this guy's depression man... one would assume someone against therapy would be advocating for kindness as a way to help with depression instead
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:31 PM
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Same. I outed my very strong feelings to multiple people in 6th grade through to high school and all of them said they weren't interested lol. I've still been the one to make the first move, and while I understand that being rejected 50+ times in your life with zero success is very different, if you are just sometimes rejected then yeah you accept it and move on. We're not compatible with most people, and most people you would find are not your type after spending time with them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:29 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:23 PM
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Because the point of those comments is that the sexual behaviours of men and women will never be equal, so men desire something from women (easy attention to a large variety of people) that only men give out. Women give sexual attention to a smaller subset of people than men do. Women have smaller desire for "just any" relationship than men do, have a smaller group of people they're attracted to than men do etc. If you look at any male-centered nsfw subreddit for example it's pretty much only ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:23 PM
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Well what the fuck is the point of a relationship that would make you less or equally happy than you are without it??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:17 PM
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It is absolutely something valid to be sad about, not experiencing romantic relationships. But a majority of women can experience it because, like you said, a majority of men do not have high standards. One of these groups will have to make a change in their behaviour to change the status quo, and I'm 99% neither are willing. Personally I will continue to have high standards for education, looks and personality. But it is 100% valid to feel sad about not having this experience, I would too, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:15 PM
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Men contribute as much or as little as they want to their kids' lives. Want to contribute and have a meaningful place? Be a good and involved parent on an equal level as their other parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:27 PM
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Eh, I think it changes the dynamic of the relationship a bit. I keep friends and sex separate, so if I found out that a friend wanted to sleep with me it would feel a bit odd. Not impossible to get past by any means but it would mean that person doesn't belong in the friendship only "folder" anymore so I'd feel a bit weird around them for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:28 PM
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This person has a crush on you, is in love with you, or acts like they do/are to get validation or attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:25 PM
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Very much lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:21 PM
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Thank you, jesus fucking christ. "The dark triad"... moooom they geekified being an interesting person who isn't a pushover! Is it sense of entitlement to ask people for things or is it just assuming people want to be helpful and that most things aren't that big of an ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:20 PM
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Because there are additional positives to going to a bar? Like actually looking at and talking to people in real life, talking to your friends who are probably there with you, just being in a social environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:21 PM
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Yeah that's crazy, I would just give it to people I was flirting with or students lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:20 PM
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Ahh yes, famously, thinking it’s unfair to be forced to grow a child that is half someone else’s inside of you or worrying about being murdered/trafficked/whatever is equal to wanting to put your dick in someone and them not wanting to have it. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:10 PM
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”But they’re not having it with meeeeee…. :’(((”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:07 PM
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You can voicce your dissatisfaction all you want, but like the other commenter said, the supply and demand will never be fair. Hence why apps like Grindr for men seeking casual sex with other men are hugely successful, while the same concept among lesbians would crash and burn. I can only imagine that sucks but it is what it is, it will never be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:06 PM
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Or, women in their mid 20s just don't think you're hot for whatever reason. Maybe younger than 20-year olds think successfully hitting on an old man is like a badge of honor, and 20+ year olds want someone who's not their dad's age... (Trying the red-pill-beloved honesty route here)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:47 AM
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Absolutely! Men please god make yourselves look better through whatever means you see fit. I’ve been doing it since like 13 I would love to not be the only one doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:02 PM
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Sir have you been to a club before? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:00 PM
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You should really ask the women in your life if they’d be as eager or more eager to go clubbing if there were no men there. I can almost guarantee you most women would love a women’s only club.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:58 PM
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Because those places are also know for being vibrant, fun, high energy and social? Yeah girls night can be nice to spend at home or going bouldering or whatever, but giggling with your friends over some wine at a bar, eavesdropping on other groups and looking for people who are clearly super horny for eachother is fun too. I’d believe boys night isn’t in these places because guys generally don’t go to clubs just to dance with eachother the way women do, for example. 4/6 of the girls in my friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:56 PM
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I don’t really do that anymore as I’ve been in two LTRs back to back, but I can imagine getting to orgasm with a hot person without having it be a person whose (potentially fuckass) family you also have to deal with can be one of the reasons lol. Women do like sex, at least most of us, so enjoying sex would be the main benefit. If you’re a woman who cums easily, hooks up with people you’re not complete strangers with and don’t worry about your safety with, and are pretty comfortable in your body…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:52 PM
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This, verbatim. Debate over
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:45 PM
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It is isn’t it? Crazy because the club is not where anyone I know met their fwb/hookup, that was more through bars, dating apps, college pubs etc. Me and my friends went out this weekend to see out other friend DJ, we all danced together, had fun and out of the nine of us there were three couples, one girl with her boyfriend at home and me and one more friend who’s single. It was such a whore house! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:06 PM
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Because the men I’ve dated long term have started out with us having casual sex or having sex very early on in the relationship? So what is there for him to be insulted by? ”Oh but you also slept with this other guy whose personality you didn’t like and then never texted him again, I’m so insulted that you both find me hot and want to sleep with me multiple times and also like me as a person😔”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:30 AM
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LOOOOOL true. And to add to it, this idea that all people who go clubbing are sleazy sluts who get ”ran through” on a daily and do drugs and cheat makes me feel like no one here 1. has been to a club or 2. has any friends who they’ve been to the club with or 3. know any couples who go to the club
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:26 AM
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In the words of that other commenter, people deserve equal rights regardless of if they're gonna go down on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:46 PM
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What a stupid post lol. She was clearly in the friendzone until he changed his mind, but when he didn't want to date her she was still seen as a friend. Some dudes get out of the friendzone too but at one point they were still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:15 PM
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Dude you've told the same story of this one woman at your weird place of work five times now. Don't make it seem like this is a normal and common thing when it's one woman at your work, who you should report to HR. Just report her bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:11 PM
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I absolutely think we should and as a feminist, I would support it! Seeing the amount of "why should I care about the success of other people and their lives" comments I see on here though I think you'll have a hard time convincing the men to take part in this too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:01 AM
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Your question was why women assume that a sexually unsuccessful guy is not nice. I don't assume, but based on the comments I read here from sexually unsuccessful men about how shitty women are for various reasons, I can see that being sexually unsuccessful also doesn't mean you're automatically nice. The people I've met irl who don't get laid are nice, so this is really judged on a case by case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:10 PM
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I'm not a racist, hence I don't talk shit about black people online or in real life. If I see a person who says they never get laid talking shit about women online there I'm gonna assume that's in some way reflective of how they actually feel and think "in real life"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:59 PM
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Like the other commenter said, I don’t assume, I just look at the people here and see what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:04 PM
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What are your standards then? What are you looking for and what are you like as a person? What are your non-negotiables?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:33 PM
1

I’m a student, all my friends are students, neither of us have any money saved lol - single or coupled. They do spend responsibly since they have loans
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:31 PM
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I find him neutral/not attractive. I feel like I only ever hear men say he looks good? ETA: I would call Benedict Cumberbatch unconventionally attractive. Super hot but definitely has a unique look.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:26 PM
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Wow people care that much huh? Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:18 PM
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Both I guess, but not for a relationship, just someone to talk to and dance with and have some fun with. I did approach one guy and we talked for a bit, but the conversation was pretty lack luster so we went back to our seperate groups
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:04 PM
2

Oh... we need a whole thread once a week to discuss that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:02 PM
2

Huh?? I play boardgmes and ended up with a boardgame guy... we bought the stardew valley board game together :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:42 AM
3

I'm sorry but that is so fucking funny lol, grinded on a dude in the club
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:31 AM
2

But what is n-count? Body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:29 AM
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I literally look fine and normal, I'm just dramatic lol. I hate the way I look without my glasses so to get used to how I look I went out with contacts in instead and thought I looked really ugly so it was. A really bad choice for a night out especially when you're drunk and in your feels at 4 am
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:29 AM
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What do you think the situation is then? As a not straight woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:26 AM
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Third time at the club with a friend who got hit on five times in front of me tonight. I did my makeup super nicely, did my hair nicely, spent time on both of them and even though I have dated people I have been really attracted to and that were objectively attractive long term I am fucking jealous of her. It feels like when I was an ugly teen and I felt completely invisible, like I put in a bunch of effort for nothing and I couldn't help noticing how many pretty girls were around me. I cried wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 01:28 AM
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I can, but I'm not only talking about hobbies. It's how we look at our problems, men are more likely to want to solve than talk a lot about it first. Guys have very different friendships with their friends and connect in a way that I can not relate to at all, interact with their families differently than I do with mine (only women). Usually keep their apartments different, go to bed different times, and I find that we in general approach the world in different ways. I have still connected with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:52 PM
1

What is this thread for? I never understood it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:47 PM
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No I didn't edit it that I remember? I'm not worried about the men liking me lol that has not been an issue, I am worried about me not liking them since me and past partners have often been very different in ways that I think are hard to accept since I'm so used to everyone around me beingmy way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:44 PM
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Am I to believe you guys are vegetarians
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:24 PM
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I didn’t call myself attractive, what I mean is I’m a quite girly person - so I have very few hobbies and interests I share with guys, I interact with others in a way that is very much more typical of women than men, I only have female friends pretty much and grew up around majority women etc etc. That clashes with a lot of men because I find we often behave very differently
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:05 AM
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Exactly, I mean more in line of don’t take yourself so seriously, not joking about how much you suck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:02 AM
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Sure, that's fine. But I don't go whining on men's subreddits about how pathetic and wrong male sexuality is, the way some dudes here complain about female sexuality. And when I do complain I don't expect it to change, men just are what they are and I don't date men that annoy me. You can just find it annoying and move on or talk to your friends about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:08 PM
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Yeahh a lot of hookups are just a result of being drunk and the right person (someone available and also up for it) being at the right place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:05 PM
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Yuup. Just did. Plus, I'd argue there are even fewer men who women feel romantic attraction too than those we feel that type of physical attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:04 PM
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Depends on the circumstances and their hot to crazy ratio lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:19 PM
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Exactly, a person can be boring or shitty and still look phenomenal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:48 PM
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And because for hookups you wanna meet someone who just looks hot and makes you feel excited. Relationships require similar values regarding a lot of things, hookups do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:47 PM
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I don't despise men and I don't wish I was attracted to women, that comes with it's own things. The only thing being a lesbian would make me is more compatible with more potential partners, since I am a pretty girly girl in every way, which clashes with a lot of men I meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:40 PM
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Well I'm not in the US lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:00 PM
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You don't think wearing makeup, having nice teeth and not having acne affects men's attraction to women? And I'm not an american woman so I have no idea what they are doing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:58 PM
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Looool so what inches are you referring to then? And I mean penis size has got to be the least helpful trait since you actually have to get the person in bed to find out what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:57 AM
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What? I don't understand what you mean. But furthermore, most men don't have slim shoulders, a high pitched voice, weak facial structure and are short. That is not the average dude, who probably has at least one of the opposite features and can then work with what he's got and improve what is in his control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:55 AM
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You can still do things about those things though? You can gain muscle in your shoulders, you can train your voice to be lower and you can improve the way your face looks. Of course there will still be people who have it easier than you but that fact is outside of your control. And while yeah, those things are hot, you're not doomed if you don't have them, and you can still improve your looks in other ways and make yourself more attractive. If you don't think the gain is worth it don't do it but…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:43 AM
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So you think women judge men's initial physical attractiveness by their penis size...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:38 AM
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Hihi I love that cat she is so ridiculously cute. But you did. "Sorry incel, chad had a lot of work growing 3 inches, why don't you do the same" is in your comment dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:29 AM
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Okay so then decide which level you want to be on and go get on that. Don't complain about it when there's clearly things you can do to improve your looks. Again, it's like you're actually blackpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:28 AM
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I will admit it - I will not find a man attractive just because he is kind or intelligent, because he has to physically look good to me. But height is not the only determining factor for good looks, and there are many looks factors that men can change or cultivate. I.e fitness level, skin, hair, clothes, perfume, social skills, charisma etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:27 AM
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Why is it always about height with you people? Red pill doesn't encourage giving up but improving oneself, so accept your height and improve the many other things you can improve? Like fitness levels, hair, skin, clothes, perfume, social skills, charisma what have you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:25 AM
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Okay so then do you not have common sense? Here you have a doable, surefire way to become more attractive to honestly both men and women, and you're rejecting it because...? Red pill isn't the give up pill and used to be about men improving themselves. If you want to be more attractive do that. Women are more attractive when they're fit than when they're fat too, so everyone is more attractive with some muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:19 AM
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What?? How are you redpill, I thought the entrance exam to the club was realizing that fit men do way better in dating than not-fit men and that women are like equally shallow...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:13 AM
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And you didn't even answer my comment - a fit, well groomed charismatic man who's 5'8 is more attractive than a 5'8 man who has weird style, acne and no social skills - and more attractive than a 6'4 skinny-fat man with weird style, acne and no social skills. So there are absolutely things men can change to make themselves much more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:06 AM
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I also prefer tall men, but that doesn't mean I'm not also attracted to, and haven't been attracted to men who are my height. They just have had other things about them that made them hot that the tall guys I've dated didn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:04 AM
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How did I miss the point? You don't find men attractive unless they're tall, I find men of many heights attractive and I find them more attractive if they're fit, have nice hair, dress well, have charisma and smell good. These are all very fixable things for most average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:53 AM
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Because women on a collective level (for the most part) spend an enormous amount of our waking hours thinking about how we look, how we could look better, what we wish we could change etc. and doing things to make ourselves look better. Working out, makeup, clothes, shoes, jewelry, hair care, colour analysis, teeth whitening, skin care, weight loss, dieting, botox, tanning, improving social skills, building confidence and charisma: all things women do to be more attractive - so it sounds super l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:41 AM
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Wasn't laughing, I was just curious. It would make sense if small social cues are hard to catch or seem nonsensicle to you if you're neurodivergent, plus lots of people here say they're ND so it's not a long shot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:34 PM
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Do you have autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:21 PM
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5'7 ish? I'? 5'7 and he's my height pretty exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:38 PM
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Well, that is both crazy and kray
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 07:13 PM
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Kind of sounds like she is lying to save face, or doing it to get some validation/attention unfortunately. How old are you guys? She sounds super young like I might have done this when I was 17
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:10 PM
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That lol or their thigh. First make intense eye contact, make excuses to be close to them or touch them. Ask them questions, make them feel like they're the only person I notice in yhe room, do normal woman-flirts stuff like touch my neck or hair, see if they respond similarily and then escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:58 PM
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That's pretty much it, yeah. Showing yourself as a sexual option while making it feel like you'd be perfectly fine not being one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:56 PM
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Not being uptight but being able to let loose a bit, joke around, laugh at yourself and with others at them. Hold eye contact without nervously looking away, casual touches that are not sexual, not being afraid to challenge a person on their views or doing so playfully. Like just not behaving like you are scared people won't like you or scared of women, but that you're interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:55 PM
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Because there are people who like to harass others and think they're overreacting by getting upset at it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:50 PM
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Have you seen the threads on r/askreddit that are like "Guys what's the biggest hint you missed that a girl wanted you but you realized later"? One of them is literally "this woman asked me back to her room, took off her dress wearing no underwear or bra and asked me for a back rub. So I gave her one and went to bed" loooooool
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:49 PM
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Yes, very true. My friends are all very attracted to their own boyfriends, yet none of us think of the other people’s boyfriends as attractive and they all look different. One black chubby guy, one bald guy, one super tall skinny blonde guy etc. If we were all attracted to the same men, then well we could admit that we think the other people chose partners whose looks we like but alas we do not. But yes, I believe there are fewer women who no one is attracted to than men no one is attracted to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:10 PM
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How does the compassion express itself? Men and women listening to men when they talk about their struggles, and trying to understand/express condolences or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 10:47 AM
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I don't know who those men are so I don't know why I don't want them. Or is "wanted by at least one woman" what classifies you as top 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:52 PM
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Societal condition also makes men attracted to feminine women w feminine looks or?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:56 PM
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Sure they do, lots of men on here hanging at the nsfw subreddits complimenting other dudes on their balls and what not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:37 PM
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Is it a sexual advancement to maybe talk to someone by the coffee machine a few times and have a laugh with them? Most likely her husband didn't drop to his knees and tell her her pussy smells divine, they probably just got to know each other at work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:32 PM
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Accurate. I’ve had to defend women being attracted to ”authenticity, extraversion and speaking one’s mind without being scared of judgement” because those traits also being common in criminals apparently means any man exhibiting them is a bad person, and women shouldn’t like him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:56 AM
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Agree :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:10 AM
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Hook up on the first/second date - get blamed for not vetting well enough if the guy's an asshole. Wait too long and get accused of not being into the guy like you were Chad. Win win! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:09 AM
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Yes, what women want or don't want should not dictate if men are bad people or not. If you don't want to be a bad boy, don't be one. And most women are not marrying criminals and objectively evil people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:04 AM
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Nothing is unconditional, I’m only friends with my friends on the condition that they’re nice to me and I still like them and they wanna hang out. I still love them though since they do those things and I do like them. This outlook on relationships is so depressing. Conditions are good, and while some people in relationships are absolutely just in them because they’re lonely, most people are in them because they love the person and want to be with them - on the condition that they’re loved back …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:12 AM
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It’s usually just pretentious people trying to virtue signal and appear more sophisticated than they are Ding ding ding! Correct!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:09 PM
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Probably because people if they start a relationship with casual sex don’t count it as a seperate thing to the relationship? Me and one of my exes started out having casual sex, but whenever I talk about it I don’t report ”had casual sex” and ”was in long term relationship” as two different things, since it was just with the same person right before we actually started dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:13 PM
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Exactly. It’s usually pretty clear if the person wants to also spend time with you doing other stuff and takes an interest in you as a person, vs if they just wanna meet up to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:07 PM
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Hard pass. Straight into sexual talk or has sex early on? Both of my exes and I had sex on the second or so date, and had beautiful relationships (that they weren’t the ones to end), most people I know around me had sex early on or started as just hooking up (not americans, this is common) and have been dating their partners 3+ years by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:06 PM
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I’ve seen men call themselves sapiosexual too and my god does it sound stupid, regardless of who says it. Oh you like smart people? Me myself I prefer someone who is really really dumb and unintelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:03 PM
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For what? If your friends make rape jokes or small dick jokes about others tell them it's not cool and to cut it out. If they cheat tell them it's not okay, if they assault women in the club or don't take no for an answer tell them to stop. That's about where the responsibility ends, and yes I would tell my female friends the same and let them know when they were being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:44 PM
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There's no way for you possibly know how many "objectively ugly" men are married vs not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:39 PM
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Ohmygaaaawd little baby
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:15 AM
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More than anything I want to ai generate photos of a bunch of random men and women and post it here for the redpillers to judge which of the people they think are looksmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:43 AM
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Q4M: My mom thinks I'm a heartbreaker for wanting to go on a date with a man just in hopes of sleeping with him, do yall agree? She believes he will be super sad that I don't want a relationship with him because I'm such a catch, meanwhile he is both gorgeous, well educated and a player lol. Personally, I think he will be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:08 AM
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What a gorgeous biological woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:03 AM
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Right?? And weirdly enough walking around with doms the day after, especially in your legs makes at least me feel like my legs are super huge, thick and mega strong
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:02 AM
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Haven't seen any of them really... :((
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:00 AM
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I think it's foolish too to want to please every woman but a lot of people here are so angry that there are more attractive men than them who do in fact please lots of women and get lots of women, when it's just a fact of life. I know plenty of girls who are pretty shitty people but are super hot so they get any guy they want. It has been like this since like 7th grade - hot people have it way easier. I'm not mad about that, it's just a fact of life and striving to live that type of life just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:20 AM
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Sure but what if it's not that to me? Or what if some other woman would like this person physically as is but not his personality? Or what if it's like a million things physically that are hard to fix
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:18 AM
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Exactly, who should prevent the situation from occuring, wider society. What things should we implement as a society do you feel to prevent this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:34 AM
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Almost everyone has things that would make them a better partner that are not mean to say, so it's not exactly a lie. But also no, I don't think it's worse to lie than to tell someone they're too ugly for love. But I've never met someone too ugly for love, since lots of ugly people around are in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:22 AM
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Who do you think should take responsibility of this created situation? Where suicide feels like the only alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:16 AM
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It's absolutely their right but does it really need to be said that I don't think suicide is a good thing? And it is dramatic when outside, walking around, there seem to be plenty of ugly men and women happily married or coupled.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:08 AM
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Yeah that is absolutely a thing and just like the women who fawned over Ted Bundy were; those women are crazy. But I've multiple times in this sub had to defend traits like "spontaneity, authenticity, extraversion, speaking your mind regardless of what other people think" and women who are attracted to those traits, because some guys think that these traits being common in criminals means that any man with them is a bad person and that women shouldn't be attracted to that...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:04 AM
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Exactly! That's why I can give advice to my friends who can get a girl but can't keep one (don't be such a negative person, try to be more spontaneous and less rigid etc) but howwwww am I supposed to give advice to these strangers that I can't see and don't know on how to get multiple women to throw themselves at them?? I'm 24 and I've thrown myself at like four men in these 24 years, all of which my own friends almost said they wouldn't touch if they got paid to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:58 AM
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Hmm no, I'd still suggest spf and retinol on top of lotion, like most dermatologists would. But you are obviously free to not do that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:56 AM
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Yep, and since even suggesting it here in this sub full of self-proclaimed truth-seers is likely to get a "well, I guess I'll just kms", I think I'll stick to not telling people they're too ugly for love lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:50 AM
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It's a very famously used product, retinol, and studied the hell out of too. You don't need an expensive one, there are plenty of cheaper brands selling it, and it'll truly do wonders for complexion. It made my acne go away and the texture of my skin smoothier, skin looks healthier and more glowy, 10/10. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:48 AM
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This is what I've found here too. I don't really have a type and have been stupidly attracted to both 5'7 skinny arab guys and 6'+ huge jacked white guys, and they were different in every possible way. Guys here often ask for "what did he say when he approached you, what was his body language like, how much money does he make etc etc etc.", not acknowledging that for most women who have felt attraction to more than one man, it isn't possible to account for every single thing about these men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:46 AM
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Exactly and telling someone "you're not physically good looking enough for women to be into you, you should try to change that" is fuuuucked uuuuuup if you're not super close to them, and even if you are it's... Not great. And I can't imagine it would be received well either?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:34 AM
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I really wanna see this movie it seems cute and they are both so pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:13 PM
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They complain because they want one, yes, not because they need one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:30 PM
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But he isn't so why does that matter? I was more attracted to the shorter guy and way more "wet for him"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:13 PM
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Looks span? 5'7 skinny arab men with long curly hair and glasses to 6'+ short hair blond superjacked white guys. (I am 5'7 myself) Honestly more attracted to the first guy coz his personality was sluttier
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:16 AM
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I have in fact been that too but I know we are outliers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:33 AM
2

What, talking to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:32 AM
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Not needing men as romantic partners for a satisfying life is what those people refer to, which you know? And most women are very open about wanting a man and a romantic companion, a family, a life built with someone. Unless you're being obtuse on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:26 AM
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Absolutely, but good looks for me is not exclusively "taller than me, huge shoulders and muscles, giga chad face", so I wouldn't go for a player who looks like that when my looks span is pretty big
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:22 AM
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I know hahah, I was being sarcastic since it felt like the guy I replied to implied that only men don't like when their partners have slept with others before lol and many women also don't like their men to have done that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:21 AM
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I only know one shorter guy, 5'7 (live in a tall country), and he also has a girlfriend and used to sleep around plenty before :')
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:42 AM
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Wow what an insult, "the only person who would have sex with you is mentally ill"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:39 AM
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Spontaneously wet? Like by looking at them? I think about 1 woman in 7 billion has experienced that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:38 AM
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Hard pass, if a woman wants marriage or a long term relationship she wants a man who she clicks with in all the ways, not just attraction. If Chad likes to sleep around famously, I'm not gonna date him and delude myself into thinking he's "high value" for marriage. High value for hooking up, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:29 AM
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Sounds like it mostly attracts a guy who focuses a lot on boobs, which doesn't guarantee him also focusing on personality and commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:27 AM
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... Men were also the ones who set those laws in the first place and you said it yourself, men are the ones who would "block the road and decide to do illegal and immoral things". Men are not a monoloth, not all men are evil, nor are all women good, most people just are average. Should individual women start having sex with random men they're not into because other random men build infrastructure? Or stop having sex with all men because some random men are criminals? What is your deal? I am grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:25 AM
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Famously, women love to think about their guys being ridden and blown by other women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:14 AM
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Yes because for women to like a man's exterior, it needs to be attractive to her. But the guys my friends find attractive are not guys I find attractive. They look very different, but we all think the people we like are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:57 PM
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Choice feminism. BOOOOOOH. Hiss. It is so embarrassing to act like women being housewives or making choices that opress themselves somehow helps women and men become more equal just because "a woman made a choice to do so, i.e it's feminist". A woman isn't exactly contributing to the feminist cause by voting for Donald Trump, even though that absolutely is her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:12 PM
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I'm a really nice person and I'm not trampled. I only surround myself with nice people who are not getting trampled. I know one asshole who is getting it going for himself super well, and he knows just how to manipulate a crowd and get almost anyone to like him, and is extremely handsome. He is one of very few. A lot of other assholes have nothing going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:20 PM
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True, I'd say that, that dating can be very unfair but that I personally believe there's someone for everyone - just at different times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:18 PM
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I totally feel like it’s the opposite This rigid holding onto your partner and fear of being alone that seems to have permeated into everyone to me is a lot worse. Controlling behaviour, people trying to police their partner’s fantasies, following on social media or friend group is psychotic. The lack of trust in others is more harmful to relationships than the club scene or having a coffee with an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:31 PM
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Very weird post for a group of people who love to preach women taking accountability and how we should be more self-aware lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:48 PM
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Hahahah every month "why does everyone hate me and why am I so ugly and greasy and sad" surprise face when period shows up next day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:40 PM
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Okay cool so do that then? Why make a whole post complaining about something you're not even gonna take part in... There are plenty of women who will sleep with dudes early and then turn that into relationships, unless that's a country-specific thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:22 PM
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What the fuck does it matter??? Go on formal dates for relationships, go on informal dates to get laid!! Formal dates are to see if the person is good enough to be a partner, informal dates are just to see of they're good enough to sleep with. Why does it matter if women hooked up with someone they just wanted to sleep with, jesus. If you want someone who doesn't do casual sex just be upfront about that on the first dates, and show that compatibility in that area is important to you. I've never …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:15 PM
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You aren't? Lol it seems like you're pretty clear on what you want so just be honest about that. Most people on tinder would want some sex I'm sure so just be open about it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:10 PM
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Have you used tinder yet or is this like a dreamed up scenario? If you have any dating app you can out what you're looking for on literally all of them, so just put casual relationship or casual sex. When you ask women out on dates don't suggest dates that are a whole financial investment, like suggest a coffee date or something cheap. The girls who also want something casual will probably be happy to get laid without too much investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:07 PM
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So what are you complaining about then? Don't date the women who demand dinner before sex, just be upfront that you only want that? Or don't take women out on expensive dates, do a coffee date and a walk or split the bill or something
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:59 PM
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Yeah no one wants to fuck a liar, just don't ask women on dates and be honest and upfront about wanting casual - you will quickly weed out the women who want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:55 PM
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Me personally I’m scared of white business men lol, I always feel like they have an ass kink going on that I am not ready for hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:16 PM
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No? It’s more just whoever is attractive and fun enough to have sex with, not checking off a bucket list of different looks and stuff. Sometimes the hot guy is short with long curly hair and other times he’s tall and muscular with a buzzcut, as long as he’s got some charisma and flirt. However, when I’ve found myself with those people it was because they were just hot and available, not because I was looking for a series of physical attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:14 PM
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Okay, so then some women think dinner is bare minimum for sex and other women don’t and will have sex without the guy buying her dinner first. Is that your claim in the post? Because yes, that would probably be true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:10 PM
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Damn good question, I’ve definitely been the one to tell my friends some guy is hot, only to realize I was just horny. Guess both men and women can be desperate to get laid or for someone to like you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:08 PM
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I’m gonna play a card that is tossed around here all the time. ”Most likely the demographic you’re using as an example is not the same demographic as those who say that thing”. I have slept with multiple guys without a ”need” for it other than they turned me on and I was into them, and I never demanded to be paid for on a date. The hottest guys I’ve met didn’t treat me or other women better than the less hot guys, they were just more fun to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:05 PM
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WOOOOOOOOW you are meaaaan! I have never felt used for sex! I was speaking in broad terms to show that I can understand how some people do feel that way - sympathy, which you should maybe try to have for others? I have had sex on the second date with multiple people yes, and I did not do it ”in hopes of getting a relationship with them”, I did it because I wanted to, and they wanted to, and we did get into a relationship after because we liked eachother. It has never not worked for me, and the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:32 AM
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So everyone who disagrees with your worldview is a liar? Walks like a conspiracy nut, talks like a conspiracy nut…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:09 PM
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... Did I not write "they had no intention to do the same, but just told you that they did so they would get laid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:55 PM
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I also like to date short men so what does that say about my instincts? Lol that I want my future son to be able to pick berries better for easier survival?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:40 PM
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You have no idea if the relationship will even get to that point on the first date though? And there's no guarantee that the man will not be stingy with money, affection, whatever just because he paid on a first date. I don't think men should feel perfectly comfortable asking such a huge things of their wives, I think they should carry a ton of responsibility during pregnancy and after, but to ask that of a stranger that you don't know is just crazy to me. What is he going to demand of you then …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:39 PM
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Absolutely, but that should be "weighed up for" by your partner who you have the kids with. Not preemptively done by or expected of men you're going on first dates with. This type of thinking sounds like "individual men should be paying their way to forgiveness for the damage the patriarchy has done to women" and I find it so weird. I don't want kids, and am 100% fine with splitting the bill. Should I still expect men to pay on first dates for me because women in general have such a hard time in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:31 PM
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Exactly. I'm into dudes of all kinds (tall, short, long hair, short hair, white, arab, built, skinny) and every time I bring that up it's insinuated that I'm a liar lol. And bringing up all the ugly couples I see outside is a one way ticket to "they're not actually into each other they're just settling"-town
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:10 AM
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"the truth" this woman admitted what she thinks, she isn't a representative of womenkind lol. Clearly lots of women in this thread claim the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:03 AM
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I don't want kids and I do like to date tall men. Has nothing to do w that lol I just like a hunky meaty man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:36 AM
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You shouldn’t date men that demand those things from you then… like this reasoning is so stupid and I hate it. You choosing to put makeup on, choosing to dress up, working while taking care of everything in the house etc. and then demanding random dudes ”pay the price” by being high earners is so fucking bat shit sheep-like. I’m a woman who is a pretty annoying feminist, and I don’t want kids, ever. I know how much women struggle in pregnancy, after etc but that’s up to the men they date and mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:56 AM
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Maybe, but that again would mean they’re less open to it since it takes a lot more fulfilled conditions for women to be interested in it. I know my own interest in casual sex is built on: how much time of day I have, how hot the person is, how interesting they are, how nice their personality is, the perfect balance between liking eachother enough to be turned on by their personality and be able to have conversation to get in the mood - while still not being compatible for an actual relationship.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:34 AM
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Yes of course. I show basic politeness to everyone but I behave as if I’m attracted to the people I’m attracted to, and probably behave more flirty because I want them to also find me attractive. But I don’t think people checking me out is creepy just because they’re not attracted to me, but I probably don’t notice it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:11 AM
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Yeah everyone has baggage at older ages that's what happens with age lol. Jesus god the amount of older men who can not shut up about some first love they had 20+ years ago, or how athletic/hot/incredible they were in their youth...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:29 PM
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That sounds really nice honestly :( maybe things are weirder now, but yeah at least online I feel like we've regressed far in terms of sexual liberation for both men and women. Young people are iterating this like "he/she is a bop, anyone who has sex outside of relationships is yucky" stuff and it feels so wrong? Hearing grown adults saying that those of us who have had casual sex can't commit or can't feel love for one person only is so stupid... How did you meet this FWB then and when was it? …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:26 PM
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You are so real. I've been thinking about getting into that but honestly? I just want attention and validation from someone I know, and like, but am fundamentally incompatible with for a relationship - so that I can enjoy sex with them without falling for them. And there's literally nothing casual about that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:31 PM
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That sucks a lot :( but that is 100% his issue, and most likely not because of anything wrong with you. Some people will never put that effort in regardless of who it is for
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:29 PM
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Absolutely, we should all strive to accept our average labels a little more. Seeing as everyone has something special about them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:08 PM
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Wow, that's pretty surprising. I'm not american, far from it, but have been the one to ask out majority of the guys I've dated. It's only now having just turned 24 that I've been asked out more times than I've asked, and I always plan a kickass date😎. Waiting around for people is boring, I guess those women will be complaining about how they can't find a fun guy until they change it up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:06 PM
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Does anyone want to be average? Everyone wants to be special, extra etc. Like half the posts in this sub are about guys who are 100% sure they will explode if they're not the best sex their girlfriends ever had... Surely they wouldn't be happy being called average either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:03 PM
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Why did yall break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:54 PM
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I am single for once and I am so so happy, I feel like I've done crack w the amount of energy I have for stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:41 PM
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It really is! Being an extrovert and liking people is like living life on easy mode, and using it to its full potential is the best
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:32 PM
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You don't have to date people like that? All my dates and all the dates of the women I know have been both people planning, initiating, paying, keeping touch etc. Maybe it's a country thing but I highly doubt all women who date are just sitting on their asses and waiting for some guy to orchestrate a whole entertainment. Lots of women who actually want to meet someone are making effort
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:11 PM
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Okay. There are still tons of volunteering opportunities that don’t include working with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:52 PM
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Absolutely, and that is a very real issue and valid fear, but there are tons of volunteering opportunities that don't include working with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:35 AM
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You really shouldn't tag this as a debate when it isn't and you're just gonna regurgitate how materialistic and awful you think women are. Most women are not with their partners because of their money and are attracted to other things, for one, and being attracted to someone for their resources doesn't make them the prize. Men are attracted to women for sex, affection, company, validation, etc all the time. Those are all resources and could make women the prize, especially since women having mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:15 AM
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Try dating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:06 AM
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Men bring more in carrying conversations? I've had plenty of lovely conversations with men, but in a majority of cases it's absolutely the women around me who carry the conversations. Most women in the west work and more women are studying at university, i.e they have their own careers and money and don't technically need men for that. Men and women both want each other for long term relationships, and as humans we're all equally the price
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:05 AM
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I mean if you're having sex with someone because you like them, want to be intimate with them, see a relationship w them, and wanna sleep with them - and you assume you're on the same page as they are only to find out they had no intention to do the same, but just told you that they did so they would get laid... I think that would feel like being used
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:09 PM
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I don't think this is true, for one, and it's also impossible to prove. What convenience do you want? Money? Childcare? Sex? Convenient affection/company? These are all things we all want and you will not find out easily who married for what, since people who married for things other than love will likely not be truthful about it - because that's a bit embarrassing to say the least
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:07 PM
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No no I don't mean like "oh he used a ball gag", I mean he's been going to clubs where people have sex in dark rooms, has done drugs and tried group sex while high etc. When we met the last time we were both pretty much virgins...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:01 PM
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Thank yooou I will :))
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:53 PM
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I am fun as a person I think but pretty uptight and like ... have a hard time to let go sexually... maybe this is a chance to challenge that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:07 PM
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I'm meeting up with a past fling who's in 5 years done the craziest shit and now he's way more sexually experienced than me and I feel boring and prudeish in contrast! Help, I am not into all that freaky ahh stuff but I want to be cool :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:51 PM
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Yeah if it gets me where I need to go and works like a car? If 10 people had it it's probably a popular, beloved and well-working car... tf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:50 PM
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Exactly! Most of my friends are in long term relationships, and I just got out of one. I find their boyfriends incredibly unattractive but they think they're gorgeous! Likewise they would never have approached my now ex, because he is not at all their type
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:05 PM
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You really should not pick as cool a character as Jinx for your profile picture
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:37 PM
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To debate because it's fun, and to hear out the people of both sides who actually make sense in their arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:28 PM
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Sexual innuendo is one thing, being asked in person for nude picrures of your body by a stranger is a totally different one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:26 PM
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I can assure you most women don't want to be asked for nudes by any stranger, hot or not, as it is super disrespectful and a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:13 AM
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You both choose so long as you can both walk away from the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:18 AM
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And? Men can be for the sexual liberation of women and still not want to date or sleep with promiscuous women. For men to break free from gender roles like "don't always be tough, but it's okay to show emotion and be vulnerable" would benefit the mental health of men and relieve some of the pressure they feel as a collective to be strong and not complain. We should abandon gender roles for the greater good and happiness of the collective, not to get men and women laid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:52 AM
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For those of us who date men? We like the men we're dating as people, this can not be a surprise to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:18 AM
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Same! Just like I like specific women and am neutral about the rest of humans
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:13 AM
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1000%. I've met plenty of physically conventionally gorgeous men that I wouldn't touch even if I got paid for it, because they were awful people with terrible personalities. I've also met conventionally not physically attractive (short guys with long hair and glasses) men, that I honestly would pray to the universe that I would get a chance to lick even the toes of. Because these people were flirty, funny, confident, social, interested in other people and hot and sexy!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:50 PM
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Oh I personally would never sleep with someone I'm embarrassed of being seen with in public hahah, but I would sleep with someone I wouldn't date as my standards are a lot higher for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:41 PM
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Oh okay, well, I know a few women who had the same experiences only and never had casual sex. I guess it depends on how into that a person is :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:10 PM
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I mean I'm about two inches above average (for women) and I'm 5'7, and yeah most guys are taller than me hahah - but I did see a guy like 4 inches shorter than me in passing today that did look swedish :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:51 PM
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What?? You never had sex with a physically attractive person who you just would not bring home ever for whatever reason? Or can imagine yourself doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:34 PM
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Asking for a link is funny since I'm on this stupid forum every day and every day some dude says this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:33 PM
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Okay so what if he's not the best? If she never tells him (which she won't) then he'll never know and if they have great sex they will both enjoy it and be happy. How does the potential scenario that she had better sex before then affect him? He can not know, and she chose him for a multide of reasons - good at sex included. Your forever partner does not need to be the best you ever had as long as you love sex with them and enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:32 PM
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Yes hahah, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:24 PM
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Why would he not have morals just because he's outgoing and authentic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:59 PM
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I didn't see it I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:18 PM
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Looking at the woman Adam Levine cheated on, I feel confident that you are 100% correct in physical beauty and relationship success have no correlation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:50 PM
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Yes I would have, seeing as I slept with both of my exes on the 2nd date
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:22 PM
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Sure, some people do, with some people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:19 AM
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I like his personality, we had a lot of fun and flirty vibes on the first + second date and he's attractive??!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:38 AM
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A scandinavian one :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:08 AM
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I don't understand. I (a woman) always split the bill on dates and when I've slept with guys on the second date let's say, it's always been because I'm attracted to them and because I want to. Why don't you just also do that? Or if you suspect they only want sex from you and you want more, why don't you wait until you meet someone who also wants commitment or until you see signs that this guy wants to commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:00 AM
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Exactly! I think some dudes here only notice those traits in people who are abrasive and assholish, not in people who are nice, and then come to the conclusion that behaving like that is too scary for them so they start smearing everyone who does. I've met plenty of people with those personality traits, hell I have a lot of them, and only about one of those people I'd actually classify as a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:45 AM
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Thank you! I've been back and forth on this for a long time with people here. Being authentic, or unapologetic, extroverted, honest, taking up space and flirting even when you risk doing it with someone who isn't into it are just traits. They alone don't make someone a bad person, and so many dudes on here seem to think that "yes, yes they do. Bad people do those things so anyone who does those things is a bad person". Someone who can do all that and also take a no, not be brutally honest when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:42 AM
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The thing is I'm not american, my country is very driven and evolved in terms of gender equality, so I don't generally hear anything in real life that I disagree with as I too am very non-conservative. The only social media I'm really on is reddit, and this is the only forum where I've even heard anyone claim most women want a provider, care a lot about men's money, etc. So I don't really have anything that sticks out to me honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:38 AM
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If he is completely physically repulsive to me, no amount of money could make him attractive. If he's neutral attraction-wise but has enough money to pay every time we go out or buy us nice vacations it would make him slightly more attractive, but not enough that it would make up for bad looks/personality - and I'm not a very materialistic person so I don't really care about that. On the other hand if he's very hot with no money, no job, no ambition then he would become unattractive. If he is at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:42 PM
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Honestly yeah this is the most realistic solution. Although for me personally and most of my friends (25 ish year olds) it's not STDs or pregnancy that keeps us from doing it more often, but the risk of just bad and unsatisfactory sex with potentially a guy that is disrespectful or dangerous. And I feel like teaching people how to be a good lover to people they will not be forming a bond or relationship with will be hard to do and harder to motivate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:12 PM
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I'm a woman who has no interest in fairness in this case. But I've lately interacted with commenters who complain about how unfair it is that only a select few men get to experience casual sex, and say that this gap should be evened out so it's not just the average woman who can engage in casual sex. For that reason I am curious about what their realistic or implementable solutions are to "fix" this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:00 PM
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I'm a woman who has no interest in fairness in this case. But I've lately interacted with commenters who complain about how unfair it is that only a select few men get to experience casual sex, and say that this gap should be evened out so it's not just the average woman who can engage in casual sex. For that reason I am curious about what their realistic or implementable solutions are to "fix" this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:00 PM
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I'm a woman who has no interest in fairness in this case. But I've lately interacted with commenters who complain about how unfair it is that only a select few men get to experience casual sex, so I am curious about what their realistic or implementable solutions are to "fix" this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:59 PM
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Has there been a study done on "amount of pussy school shooters get"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:27 PM
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Oh I share her opinion, that would not happen. We would not have casual sex. Mostly because approaching someone like that for casual sex is psychotic lol, which is why she specified first sentence "be a trustworthy acquaintance" not some rando on the street. But yeah no even if my friend did that it would not happen unless he was attractive to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:53 PM
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In response to this woman commenting you said "Never ask a fish how to catch fish, ask the fisherman" - I'm assuming you mean don't ask women how to get women, ask men. The OP specifically asked for women's opinions so your comment doesn't make sense, as he in this situation indeed did ask the fish how to catch fish. Let the fish speak
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:28 PM
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No? Plenty of school shooters, mass murderers etc. did not have nice outgoing personalities or were weird, introverted, asocial. You can be respectful of others while still being unapologetically you and being outgoing, flirtatious or approaching others. Those are not traits that only a bad person can posess, and again, if you started acting this way I don't think you should call it "acting like a bad person" since they're not harmful or disrespectful behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:25 PM
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As a woman leaning slutty who generally agrees with your comments, I lol'd
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:22 PM
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Are you receiving from a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:21 PM
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And yet OP did just that, so here he's getting the opinions of women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:01 PM
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... Okay but do you think being outgoing and unapologetic makes you a bad person? And only bad people are those things? Because in that case we disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:26 PM
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You're commenting this on a comment explicitly stating that women are human and there are shitty women...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:38 AM
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But did you call your wife a bitch and threaten to beat her? Or become more criminal? Or did you just take up more space, be less apologetic, take more chances and be more openly into her? A lot of these comments I feel equate being a bad person to being offensive in terms of being more approaching, taking initiative, being loud/making jokes that not everyone would love. This to me is not a bad person, it's just someone who is authentic and doesn't care if others get offended, which I'm sure lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:21 AM
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Most women are probably unaware of the red pill ideology though? It's a fairly online thing, and usually adopted and discussed by men, not women. So most women wouldn't use it to justify their own behaviours, since they're not aware of how the red pill talks about them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:17 AM
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Good for you, follow the words of Andre Fili
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:09 AM
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Let's say this is reality: If the average man wants casual sex and the average woman does not - then let's say 90% of men will do it, and 10% of women will - then those women will get to pick put of so many men and choose the men that they're so stupidly attracted to that the risk of getting pregnant, an STI, raped etc. is worth it - i.e the hottest dude. What do you think the solution is to "make it fair for the average man"? What do you propose? How should society change to make the sexual exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:54 PM
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I've not changed my position much but I have become more empathetic towards male struggle in dating, and more aware of this lie that "women don't care what you look like as long as you're nice" that is allegedly spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:17 PM
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Yuuuuup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:21 PM
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You kinda still should tho... if my friend who I think is great never ever gets asked out, approached, has never been in a relationship or even had a chance at one, I still expect her to treat men around us well and not be a raging bitch to them. Sex/romance are not, or should not, be the condition you need fulfilled from the opposite sex to treat them nicely and as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:26 PM
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It's really the best, you can pick out the hot people you want! The only downside is the quick realization that quite a few hot people are pretty boring :')
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:20 PM
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I've never heard that? Plus, I feel like a lot of guys are not as unsuccessful in dating as they seem on here, and depending on who it is you're approaching you might go for some hotties - in which case they are less likely to have never had a woman be into them. In either case, going on a date and feeling out the vibe of the guy is the best way to see if he's desperate :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:18 PM
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I feel like this has been posted before and was equally disliked then? As a woman who often makes the first move, being a woman is as much as a passive "setting up a trap" as you want it to be. (In my case, not at all, I'm never approached by anyone in public so this is either a shit trap or just not how the world works lol). Women are free to approach whoever they want and having done it basically my whole life I can tell you the miniscule amount of rejections you get is way worth the amount of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:14 PM
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Well, duh? You're my friend because I don't want to date or fuck you. If I wanted to do that, I'd try, and if it didn't work I'd feel awkward and stop hanging out with you. I don't fuck my friends. If I wanted just sex though the important thing isn't that you'd be a good partner, it's that you're hot, flirty, safe enough that you won't harm me/that you will practice safe sex and be respectful of boundaries, and that you're available. It's not like political views or career ambitions determine h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:04 PM
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Big ass wrong. Obviously depends on where you live, and as a scandinavian I've never expected a guy to pay for me ever and have still went on plenty of dates with said guys, as have most women I know here since the norm is to split the bill or take turns paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:20 PM
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Depends on the woman obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:19 AM
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Who the fuck said that there is such a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:18 AM
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Lol so then your experience isn’t at all a reflection of your statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:17 AM
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I feel like this is true, and while I do recognize that men are absolutely generally expected to be more active in dating/approaching, asocial men and women will have more odd interactions because asocial people are harder to read, harder to get close to, harder to interact with in general than very social people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:15 AM
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Nope, there's something eerie about dating a robot regardless of how human it seems. Like eating human meat, even if it was lab grown and ethical it would feel wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:08 PM
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Of course muscles are attractive but it's not the only thing. You don't need every hot quality to be hot, like being short is a non-issue if you have a nice face and are charming (to me, and clearly a lot of other women around me who are dating and having sex with men their height).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:23 AM
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Exactly. I've worked many a shitty low paying jobs, paid rent, failed classes, made friends, been in long term relationships, been through heartbreak, fallen out with family/friends, looked for apartments, been on exchange and lived in a country where I didn't speak the language, etc etc. There are experiences that, while not exclusive to 18+ year olds, a lot of people haven't had at that point and that change you a lot as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:46 AM
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And in what world fathers would want their sons to sleep around and risk ending up someone's baby daddy before their 20s...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:36 AM
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Isn't that just growing up? Or like tough experiences like job hunting, becoming good at a sport and failing, friendship fights, realizing you picked the wrong school etc. Is a serious and difficult challenge needed to transition into adult hood? I feel like I did my hard stuff and just ended up here kind of, yet not feeling like a full adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:33 AM
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Red flag: not liking the videos I send of silly cats. Red flag: uploading any picture anywhere of us together but is super actively uploading pics of him, his friends, him with his friends/random people, his hobbies, and when asked about why he never posts us together saying he "likes his privacy".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:58 AM
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Yeah no, I don't have that mindset. In fact I've never met a person with either of these two mindsets, men or women. It's almost as if people are usually just normal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:34 PM
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From looking at these comments, uh yeah, this mindset is fucking terrible. "She gave me her youth when she was beautiful and desired by other men, and I will reward her in older age by not cheating with a younger, hotter woman! :D" fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:31 PM
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Yeah I've been compared to guys other girlfriends or hookups multiple times, because of certain things I'm into and it makes me really uncomfortable honestly to hear them compare me to their past lovers like that. Just tell me I'm good! I don't need a relative ranking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:09 PM
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Or... it's because a lot of guys (especially on here) really want women to fuck them specifically, but not fuck any other men. So they value women's sexuality highly, as long as she only shares it with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:07 PM
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You have to be open to doing what therapists suggest for it to work, just like you have to be open to doing the physiotherapy a doctor recommends you - just going to one is not enough. I've been to therapy multiple times, and each time I have quit because what they told me forced me to sit with my uncomfortable feelings - which I suck at, and which is what causes most of my issues. If I were more open to it, I would actually put effort into dealing with my emotions and not just giving up once it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:01 PM
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Of course we do, globally most women who are prostitutes are not doing so out of free will because they just love men buying their consent...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:43 AM
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Neutralize?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:52 PM
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Never heard a woman in real life say that and the people I meet around me are a varied group of the male vs female partner being the higher earner. Maybe this is an american problem, or possibly, an online problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:52 PM
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I’m not american nor am I 5’4, but european and 5’7 so wanting a 6 foot man is not weird lol nor do I limit myself to that at all. Of course your whole next argument is hypocritical as fuck while complaining that women are hypocritical. Please be for real lol, don’t do this mental gymnastics. If a man could choose between a rich hot girl and a poor hot girl he would pick the rich girl if they’re equally nice, just like women would. I didn’t say men earning more means women should demand a high e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:49 PM
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What is your solution to the difference in acceptance in women’s standards? Women call out other women for their hypocritical standards? Men do it and don’t ”reward” hypocritical women with their time, money and penises?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:19 PM
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… no because people often say that women’s standards are too high (1) and (2) women outside of the internet often date men who are within their own league both looks and height-wise as you can see by looking around you at couples on the streets. If their standards were accepted, people wouldn’t be complaining about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:17 PM
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I agree, it is weird when there’s a huge difference and women completely exclude guys who aren’t a foot taller than them, but OP keeps bringing up ”women wanting to date taller men when they’re short themselves” as an argument to call women hypocritical, as if men need to have wide hips and big tits to want a woman with those things lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:16 PM
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Yeah and that’s stupid. Except that everyone prefers successful people, men and women both, but men on average are higher earners and have lower standards for attraction to women so it’s easier for women to get. But the ”women wanting tall men but not being tall themselves is dumb and unfair” thing is just… looking past biology. I’d say most men would prefer and are attracted to a woman with some hips and boobs but it’s not like the guys themselves need to have wide hips to desire that in a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:13 PM
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Which social phenomena is that? Easier access to more people, i.e a wider pool to choose from and compare to, than before dating apps when you had to settle for dating someone withthin your friend/social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:20 AM
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Because seeing cool places is worth feeling a bit scared. The fun and adventure weighs up for the scary and there are ways to be safer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:17 AM
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In other news, I tried windsurfing twice this week and I really recommend it if you're in a place with nice weather!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:16 AM
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I'm still pissed that there's not been a realistic and implementable solution suggested to the "women are only attracted to 20% of men" thing because what do the complainers want women to do about it? Date men they don't find sexually appealing out of pity? Genuinely?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:09 AM
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That deep craving you're talking about is called being horny. Wanting deep bonds with other people is something you can receive via parents, siblings, family and friends. Wanting affection can be satisfied through hugging family, friends, getting a massage, a pet. Is it different to getting it from someone you're also having a romantic connection to? Yes. Will you die without a romantic connection? No. The specific desire for a woman to enjoy your penis is not a need. You can call it whatever yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:11 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:49 AM
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And considering how so many guys on here bring up that male friendships are less deep than female ones, for example, because men simply prefer it that way both biologically and socially - I feel like men would be way better equipped at dealing with the treatment she received than women would. As a woman who always had very close friendships with other women, having my friends act towards me the way I see the guys around me act towards one another would probably also make me depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:39 AM
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Even at 25 years old 18 year olds are kids to me! I’m in my last year of uni and the new people who just started their first years have done nothing yet in their lives which is what it should be like. But talking to them is like talking to a freshly hatched chicken lol, and I can only imagine people in their 40s feel the same way about me and my peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:30 AM
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Exactly, I feel the same way about men into younger women. I understand why you think young people look hot but please, keep it to yourself. And don’t exploit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:24 AM
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Well written!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:17 AM
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Yep, we all have emotional baggage from trauma or hard times and while they may hold is back in certain areas in life, they are ultimately our own to deal with and heal from. :) What is there to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:49 PM
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Trueeee
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:47 PM
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Yes of course. The two most attractive men I've ever met and interacted with were my height/slightly below with long curly hair and glasses - and I'm 5'7. :) I wanted to both hookup with them intensely and potentially also have a relationship with them, but we were both seeing other people at the time so it did not fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:09 AM
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My friendships do. You should speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:03 PM
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Yes, because suggesting men in unhappy relationships be single is the same as suggesting to cancer patients that they commit suicide...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:21 PM
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Yeah for some it clearly is lol! This is something I realized when I was 12 so I am willing to cut myself some slack for not knowing as much then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:17 PM
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They're better at that because they're hot, most likely also reckless about showing their interest and flirting etc. and not good enough for a long term relationship. There are plenty of objectively good looking men who are so boring, unflirtatious, unenticing and dull that women don't want sex with them. For a man to be hookup material he needs to be hot and interested. For a man to be husband material he needs to be hot, and nice, and funny, and share life goals, values, some interests, have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:11 PM
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Is it? Is it like that, or is it different in every conceivable way...?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:02 PM
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Same! I noticed other people dominating conversations and not asking me anything, didn't like it, realized I did that too and started reminding myself to be curious about other people and as I learned that almost everyone can be interesting it became easier to take interest in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:00 PM
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Yeah because based on this sub a lot of the male loneliness is "no one wants to sleep with me". Of course feeling lonely without a partner is one thing but if you're lonely and there's anything you can receive from a romantic partner that would make you feel less lonely (emotional support, someone to give a new perspective, a hug or listening ear, company etc.) then I would start with trying to get that from your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:34 AM
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Yes? I feel like you're misreading me on purpose, there doesn't need to be anything more to it but that's just what it is. And here you have hundreds of dudes arguing that insecurity is actually not the reason for why they don't want to be with the girl who has slept around - but that it's actually insert reason that absolutely is insecurity. Like with women who don't want their boyfriends to follow models on social media - yeah it's insecurity. But they keep saying it's not and it's about respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:25 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:55 AM
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Of course not but the point of the OP was literally just that some preferences are out of insecurity and avoiding triggering said insecurity, and that people deny it? I have my own insecurities for why I have certain preferences and I can still agree with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:49 AM
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Yes, but claiming that the reason you don’t want a woman who has been with many men is not because of insecurity, is stupid when can just go ”yeah it’s because I’m insecure”. I’m sure plenty of men don’t want their partner to have slept around because they themselves didn’t do that and they want to have a shared view of sex and its sacrality - but I’m also sure plenty of men want a virgin partner because they’re terrified of being compared to her past lovers and being seen as worse in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:01 PM
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Oh they don’t need to overlap at all. Being attractive can be anything from being spontaneous, outgoing, risk-taking, warm, comforting, physically fit and hot, confident, mysterious, funny, inviting etc etc. Being a good partner is being loyal, being empathetic, generous, committed, caring, uplifting, efficient, communicative etc. You can have any combination of those traits - lots of hot people are terrible partners, lots are great partners and hot to someone else but not to me, or both a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:57 PM
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Men and women both and equally, put up with bad unattractive behaviour to be with otherwise hot people. I'd argue men do it more if anything since a higher libido would entail putting up w more bs for a chance to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:28 PM
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So because you believe the dudes have less options it makes it more virtuous and less of a problem that they're staying with insane women who treat them like shit but are hot and great in bed, than when women do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:24 PM
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Thank youuuuu!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:44 PM
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And it perhaps perfectly mirrors the "women should stop going for hot assholes and start going for nice average men" sentiment that is rampant on here!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:27 PM
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I'm not one of these women but my friend is. She gets approached often and tells me it's never by the guys she actually wants to approach her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:03 PM
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We all lust over other people, or most do, unless you're on the "when I'm in a relationship I don't notice anyone other than my partner". So because I also lust over other men - notice them on the street, briefly imagine what it would be like to be with them and then I move on, I can see why he would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:03 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:56 AM
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Thanks for the uncalled for insults I guess? I am pretty self aware, hence why I am leaving this relationship - I have no interest in the things it entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 07:02 PM
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I hope you're right but I'm really thinking that it's not in the cards for me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:05 PM
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Based on what do you not think I'm 24? I feel like I'm a very average 24 year old lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:00 PM
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Dude I am about to, I wrote that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:06 PM
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That makes sense yeah, but I'm 24 - soon to graduate university💀 I've been in two relationships now of 1-2 years and this is the last time I will find myself asking why I did this again :')
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:19 PM
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I feel good around 90% of people I meet, I just can not stand the conpromising, the expectations, the lack of compatibility. Maybe I'm just never with the right men and maybe one day this will be easy, but doing this stuff for my best friend is not a problem - but for a boyfriend? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:18 PM
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I fucking hate being in a relationship, once I break up with my boyfriend I'm never gonna do this shit agaaaain
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:03 PM
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I feel like that only relevant for a very small number of dudes, or men living in more conservative countries/areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:48 AM
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As a scientist I have to ask, what is scientifically cool? You can be good and have those traits you listed. To me two of the coolest people I've seen is this swordfighting nerd-duo on youtube that seem to be in a polyamorous relationship with their manager. I would date all three of them if I had a chance, I think they seem amazing! They seem adventurous, open, ambitious and extroverted but I highly doubt most people would agree with me lol. They also seem as far from bad boys as possible, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:41 AM
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Do not read or watch the blackpill, redpill, bluepill content and go outside! I promise you, this shit will taint your brain BADLY and if you look outside you will see ugly people with other uglies, average people with average people, hot people with average people, ugly people with hot people and you will have to believe them when they say they love their partner because true love is not shallow. Finding a partner is not a quantifiable game to play and has a lot to do, unfortunately, with being…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:34 AM
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Can I ask how old you are, what you do for work, what you spend majority of your time outside of work on, if you watch shows or tv when you eat etc.? This isn't relevant to the OP but I'm really curious! I'm 24 and establishing better phone habits after many years of excessive use (albeit not in social situations, that is just rude), and I feel like I've forgotten what a normal week looks like for someone who uses their phone as little as you do :')
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:25 AM
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But men as grown adults are responsible for their own behaviour and shouldn't be so shit. And especially for their kids’ sakes! Why are some dads so blatantly uncaring about things that regard their kid’s lives? Why do you not know their teacher’s name? The child must have said it a million times in conversation, and surely you’ve spoken to them before. Why don’t some dudes know the names of their children’s best friends, their own child’s birthday, their kids’ allergies, likes and dislikes etc?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:19 PM
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Can you imagine though the commotion if there actually is something seriously wrong with the child and they die or get lifelong consequences of their sickness, and the woman didn’t take the kid to the hospital? Children are pretty fragile in general, and I’d argue society looks down a lot more on women who put their kids at risk than they do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:15 PM
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Same lol, every other weekend my mom forced me out to the woods for a nature walk and I sat in the backseat of the car on the way there fuming because I only wanted to be inside, eat chips in secret and play my nintendo hahah. Thank god she forced me though, now I happily go as often as I can and am super active as an adult!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:11 PM
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That’s pretty cute hahah, and if my mom hadn’t been so ”careful with the stove” growing up I would have done the same in that situation. And they probably did fix something after, but thought it was weird he wasn’t getting up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:08 PM
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Literally. My cousins called my aunt at 2 pm when she was out to lunch with my mom (for the first time in 6 months), because they were bored and hungry and their dad was still sleeping. At 2. The youngest is like 9, and the man does not work a night shift. Get up and take care of your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:41 PM
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The children of single mothers have horrible track-records in life. The children who were abandoned by their fathers you mean? Yes, that does leave a bad impression on a child. Besides that, seeing as the single parent is the one who stays and knows that no one else will be there to pick up the slack for them, I don’t believe single parents neglect their children unless the parent is somehow ill. Men and women should both, in my opinion, go above and beyond for their children. Kids are a thing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:39 PM
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I see, I thought you meant dating as in a relationship. Yeah I'd be casual with someone I don't see a future with who is also involved with other people, but at that point I'd call myself single
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:43 AM
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This is one of the main reasons why I will not be having kids lol. The men who truly seem to want kids with all the responsibility it comes with are few and far in between, and even those who are so positive about it seem to quickly let their wife take all the resonsibility on her own. Hard pass!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:36 AM
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No, women don't want to be in a relationship with a man who is dating other women i.e cheating. Dating in the beginning I'm sure is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:42 AM
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Yeah so they think they can change him hahah, that's dumb but sure. Some people are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:19 AM
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I've asked you like three times now, would men want to date a woman who doesn't find him sexually attractive? Yeah of course women complain when men say they're monogamous to them and then turns out they're dating multiple women, but just because you're a hot guy doesn't mean you're a cheater or a player - as there are plenty of hot men who want a relationship with just one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:18 AM
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No they probably downloaded the app because they're curious about what people are saying on it lol, as it is widely talked about. Like if a celebrity gossip app was created you best believe people would download it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:15 AM
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Are the women he dates looking for a relationship though? Or just want to fuck him/looking for a fling or something? Because in that case, monogamy isn't really the nr one priority especially if he is hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:11 AM
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You're not more virtuous than women because you find more women fuckable like what? And I didn't contradict myself - I want to date a man I'm attracted to. I'm mostly attracted to short men with long hair, when looking at my past dating history, so I don't need a Chad. But I do want to be attracted to who I'm dating, and I do not believe for a second men want to be with a woman who doesn't find them attractive physically - which is what you're asking of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:10 AM
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Exactly! Good answer. My answer would be the exact same for a woman who is too much of a people pleaser.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:47 AM
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That and - why is it that women are to blame for a group of dudes who date multiple women simultaneoulsy without telling them? Apps like that, while stupid, just seem to contain women who are surprised at finding out they dated the same guy, not women who willingly date the same man as other women at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:46 AM
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I mean yeah, they could. I wouldn't recommend it, because I wouldn't want a sexless relationship, but would most men want to date a woman who isn't attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:28 AM
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I'm not american, first of all lol, and second I don't know any women who are dating men they know are dating other women. And if that's the case then it's on the dudes who are then cheaters and are dating multiple women without informing the women of that. And there's no proof of women dating the same guy? And again - if they are, they're most likely not doing so willingy and knowingly...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:12 AM
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Yeah, well is that surprising? Even biologically it makes sense for women to not have lower standards for who they would fuck since men have like 10-60x the testosterone of women and are infinitely more horny...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:50 AM
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The more attractive anyone is the more lenient everyone else is with them, and that goes for the whole world in pretty much every situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:48 AM
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Yeah of course it's a lie, though personally it's a lie that I never hear repeated in real life. Why has it been accepted as the truth though? How would personality matter more when you can't see it at first, and obviously it does matter more in a relationship since being hot just gets you a date while personality gets the person to want to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:47 AM
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I mean true unconditional love and virtue are both measured by how much you want to put your penis in someone. Who doesn't know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:29 AM
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Do you mean like how men want a good woman but she has to first be attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:28 AM
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The one that you take into his girlfriend’s bedroom, I’d assume
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:46 AM
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Well, maybe the women they date shouldn't date them if they don't actually want to lol. Neither party is forced to be on the date
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:11 PM
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Maybe not where you live, but where I live it's really normal to split on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:16 AM
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Sure! Nice conversation, being asked questions, hopefully laughing together and flirting a bit, getting to know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:41 PM
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Less money in his pocket? For me, a man paying for a date gets him no different treatment than if he didn't pay. I'd think it was nice of him, or depending on the vibe I might get worried he now sees our date as transactional and expects more than what is usual for a date, and then the date would proceed as usual. Hence why I don't usually "let" men pay on a first date. In my experience it doesn't prove the person will be generous with money when actually in a relationship, and I would prefer we…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:23 PM
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Seeing as I know multiple men, who are all wonderful people, I don't believe that for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:50 PM
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And the average man is not an incel redpill woman-hater either - in other news reddit doesn't represent the real world, and water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:28 PM
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What a load of bullshit! I know plenty of people, men and women, who are polite and nice openly as well as in private. Why do you think everyone is either bad in public or in secret?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:43 PM
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Sure there are plenty of other red flags but how is being rude not a real red flag too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:07 PM
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Love this question. Especially interesting since a lot of posts here are in regards to women's standards being too high looks wise and women not dating average guys - which is a bad thing, while a lot of other posts are insisting that women who date average men are constantly fantasizing about the hotter Chad she used to date before and how she's settling, and that not being the most physically attractive man your girlfriend has ever seen is insulting and emasculating. So are women supposed to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:45 PM
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Loooool, I guess people grow and change, some quicker than others hahah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:43 PM
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Maybe because it's not a mathematical formula like a lot of guys on here expect it to be? The two men I've been most attracted to in my life have been completely unconventionally attractive - shorter than me, not muscular, curly long hair below their shoulders. I think they were gorgeous but their personalities is what made them more attractive. I've also been really attracted to a tall skinny guy and one tall muscular Chad-looking guy. How do I put into words what I find attractive when they al…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:34 PM
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I agree with you, and I think this view is healthy (and normal probably outside of the internet), but on here I see a lot of posts about how if a woman isn't immediately dripping wet at your physical attraction you should move on because "she will always be fantasizing about the Chads from her past". It's unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:29 PM
1

I've never heard a woman say she is interested in unattractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:10 PM
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Yeah this is a main issue of this sub - any man who gets laid or is successful with women can not be a good person in these people's eyes. While lots of women attest that the men they date are both charismatic, fun, hot and emotionally and financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:09 AM
1

Yeah duh? Those things are secondary to men too, no man would let's say reward a woman he isn't attracted to with commitment...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:28 AM
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Depends on the rest of his personality, values, life and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:09 PM
1

I didn't call it that, people use lizard brain as a metaphor for the biological urges we have that drive us to act in ways we can pretty much attribute to a very base level animal instinct. Wanting to eat fatty and carby or sweet foods, getting adrenaline rushes of fear, seeking out dopamine, biological drive to procreate with people who fit their typical "sexual dimorphism" well - aka women with small waist, wide hips, big boobs or men with body hair, wide shoulders, slender hips etc. Surely yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 09:41 AM
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Even better - you're gonna get sex with someone who doesn't actually want to have it with you. Mmmm wonders for mental health /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:59 AM
4

What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:53 PM
3

Probably the same part that makes men attracted to women with a wider hips to waist ratio or long hair
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:28 PM
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Same, never. I leave the house every day, go to school every day, go to clubs/bars some weekends and I never get hit on, cat called, or asked out. I'm not ugly either lol, I've dated my fair share and have had two LTRs but I've pretty much always been the one to initiate those. Strangers just don't give me attention like that, which feels great.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:46 PM
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Could be the slogan of this subreddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:21 PM
7

Never. Hookups were because the guy was hot, and I wanted to have sex with him. I've never wanted a relationship with someone I hooked up with, and I'm not a manipulative schemer so I didn't do it to get something else from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:16 PM
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Okay but... you don't want that - you want a hookup. Or casual sex. And they want a relationship, which you know you don't want, but you keep spending time with them anyway - similarily to how one would when they want a relationship - and it's on them to not want a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:53 AM
1

Congratulations! Do you know if it's a boy or girl yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:20 AM
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Physical appearance wise, without talking to him a guy is either hot, not/neutral or I can't tell (very rare category). Then with people I talk with they can become attractive based on their personality/how they act even if they were sort of neutral before, and they can become unattractive based on personality/how they act even if they were hot before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:19 PM
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Same :) I always approach because I'm never approached, and when I give it as a suggestion to friends who struggle in dating they always say it's too scary and they're too scared of getting rejected. So men and women don't approach for the same reason probably. On top of the men and women who just don't approach because they think the other person should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:54 AM
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Sure, but I also don't hear it anywhere on social media whenever I'm on it, except for in this forum. So I'm not constantly hearing about it was my point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:51 AM
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Agree. Some people it just doesn't feel good with and it's not just in the moves, it's more. The vibe, the rythm, how much you can get into it. It's not just attraction and moves, there's something else but I guess it's hard to put words on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:06 AM
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I don't hear it anywhere except on this forum actually. The guys around me who are single date a bit and it seems to be going well apart from the general difficulty that is finding someone you're compatible with, I don't use instagram that much and my algorithm is more food and fashion/crafts based, and that's the extent of my hearing of this. When I hear about it I kinda go "yeah that sucks. And people should be online way less, it's too bad we have everything online nowadays, it doesn't seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:03 AM
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I disagree - I can empathize all day with someone but at the end of the day I will put my own needs first and set boundaries, even if they get hurt and even though it makes me feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:29 PM
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It kinda sounds like you are more into men than women dude. Which is not a bad thing! Just something to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 05:08 PM
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Huh? I've never seen that happen, and it seems like divorced men more often kill themselves than divorced women. So why would this be true? Women generally have closer and more friends that they can rely on after a breakup. Not saying women can't go that route but the women I've seen get dumped definitely ended up growing as people and getting into better relationships afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:57 PM
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Yeah of course! And for him it probably feels super exciting, but because I don't share the excitement or interest in the hobby at all (and because I don't like eating animals) the first thing I see is a dead animal and the second, if I try to think about it from a different pov, is excitement over the hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:43 AM
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Of course not everyone who cheats is unstable, some people just seek out the validation and thrill of a new person and think they won't get caught
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:48 PM
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Yeah there are tons of stuff even for boring hobbies! Literally the nerdiest hobbies have the most community-centered fanbases. Cosplay, D&D, LANs, comics, Pokemon, manga, anime, video games, sci-fi all have conventions, group gatherings, game shops hosting events etc. Music fans have concerts they group visit, theater people do improv together or go to plays or even do reenactments. There are book clubs, cooking workshops and dinner clubs, wine tastings (yawn) and beer brewing (snore). I'm not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:00 PM
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I have a lot of sympathies for the men I know who struggle, when I know what they're like as people. Seeing good people I love struggle to find love and relationships when they really want them sucks. I have sympathy for men feeling unlovable just because they are men, and yes it is unfairly placed that some men have such a hard time in dating or even getting a date. I can feel bad for you and offer my condolences. I can however not fuck you to make you feel better, date you to make you feel lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:54 PM
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Yeah who the fuck woman would "agree" that all other women and herself are spoiled, narcissistic and unreasonably picky when not even most men feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:50 PM
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Yeah I agree with that, 4-6 h is fine as long as it's mutual but I think people imagine like long fishing weekends with his friends or getting up super early and spending all day on the lake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:45 PM
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Sure, but when both parents work it's a bit odd for either of them to leave the other parent alone with the kids for one of the two weekend days if it's as often as every week. I totally see if it's every once in a while, but if it's often I see why women wouldn't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:02 PM
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Science has proven time and time again that you can get all necessary nutrients on a plant based diet, with only one supplement needed - B12. Seeing as B12 is supplemented to livestock too since soil is often depleted of it, I don't see the issue with just eating the supplement yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:26 PM
1

Perfect!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:23 PM
1

Perfect!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:23 PM
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It's a bad mindset to not want your husband to spend a lot of time away from you and your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:23 PM
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I love this post so much. You're right, those are all really positive things about fishing and fishermen! Personally, I'm pretty much vegetarian so anyone who likes to kill or harm animals and shows it off with pride is really unattractive. Aside from that I don't have a lot of qualms. I personally think fishing is really boring, so it's not a hobby we'd share. And it takes a lot of time. I'd rather he made a craft or posed w a painting he made or a medal from a race he did or something. ETA: A …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:16 PM
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Why would an ugly guy be nicer than a hot one? In my experience very ugly guys are more often bitter, and then you have an ugly bitter guy. Fun! Would love to date him. I haven't heard a woman say she needs to date someone hotter than her ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:57 PM
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You didn't say in general, you said no woman would ever do that. Of course women don't generally propose, both men and women uphold the notion that men should propose. But there are still women who do propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:26 AM
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None of my friends date the type of men OP described either, so I can say women also actually have taste and aren't into cookiecutter people. I doubt your friends would turn down the chance to hookup with a blonde model with curves though, regardless of what they say their type is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:26 AM
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So men who like fat women would turn down a chance to hook up with a model hot skinny girl? Get real. Everyone likes hot people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:25 AM
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Okay so then we agree, women want tall dark and handsome for flings and hookups just like men want slutty, curvy and bubbly for their flings and hookups. Because these people are hot and have no other defining traits like personality, values etc. needed, but for long term relationships men and women both prioritize other things as long as they themselves are attracted to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:24 AM
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Ah but you see, men only like women with huge asses and boobs - just take a look at porn! That will tell you what all men want! I'm gonna throw up this is so stupid. Who would have guessed attractive people are considered attractive, and woah also who would have guessed people still date other people than those that are 6'5, have millions, and have huge boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:22 AM
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This is my response to majority of the posts here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:19 AM
1

You literally have no proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:18 AM
2

Both what? Find a man subpar in looks and also not find other men more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:21 PM
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Yuuuuup, there's nothing more abundantly clear on this sub than the message that "women should never have been with someone they found more attractive than their current partner". How are they supposed to do that by dating men they find "somewhat attractive", what man would want that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:54 PM
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I'm not, and my friends are not. And no other women I've met or engaged with have hated short or bald men or insinuated they are unattractive. You just did though :/ and I've heard lots of other men on here make the same claims. It sounds like you guys are not as supportive of other men as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:59 PM
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Wow, that's such a hateful view of other men. I don't think that negatively about other women, unless they're terrible people. Maybe you should work on that. Of course both short and bald men are capable of being attractive and wonderful partners to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:56 PM
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Do you believe bald or short men are unattractive and unlovable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:50 PM
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Nope, you asked if my friends' relationships are all the same and I told you they all have in common that they're long term, both partners attracted to and love eachother. Other than that there are tons of differences. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:04 PM
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Some men also like chubby women but wouldn't turn the chance to date a model away
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:00 PM
4

... What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:44 PM
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Do you mean the same in that they're all happy, long term relationships wherein both parties love and are attracted to each other? If so yes, they're the same and the men are being treated the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:39 PM
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Yeah by looking at the women around me and the men they're in long term relationships with, they look extremely different - tall, short, white, black, hair, no hair etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:10 PM
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Nope, being with a man I'm attracted to and mesh with his personality is not settling - being with someone I'm not attracted to whose personality I like would be, but I would never do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:38 PM
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If she is happy getting gifts only on her birthday once a month I don't think she'd care. If she wants it more then, well yeah. As long as a man ticks my boxes and I feel like he loves me, cares for me, is excited about me I don't care what stuff he did for his exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:27 PM
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Yeah the people in this sub are not happy lol and are bitter that they didn't have one night stands in their 20s. It's abundantly clear how angry lots of men here are at women for having had sexual experiences with men the guys themselves are jealous of. I got told I'm whorish and unattractive here because I am usually the first to ask guys out, and then the person thought it was confirmed (that men do in fact think I'm whorish) by the fact that I haven't been proposed to yet by any of the men I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:18 PM
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All true. Whining about how women "settle for men they aren't as attracted to as the chads they fucked in their youth" and simultaneously whining that women want to date hot men - we can not win lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:14 PM
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I mean "the game" is just wanting to be attracted to the man I'm dating. No man ever would settle for a woman he isn't attracted to so why would I or any other woman do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:12 PM
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Very true, being just hot and nothing else is more appealing to men than to women. As a dude you generally need more substance to have success with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:22 AM
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The photos are not professionally taken, they're just taken to highlight the good things and to look good. So many guys use selfies that seem like they didn't even try on their profiles, which is baffling to me because why wouldn't you want photos where you look your best rather than a from-below angled selfie of you at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:17 AM
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It can for sure, but in general selfies where you know you look hot seems more arrogant than if someone else took the photo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:15 AM
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This guy gets it. Gym selfie flexing shirtless feels self obsessed and shallow, beach volley photo feels like a carefree and social guy who "just happens to be hot" even if it's the same guy in the photos. Dating apps are all about marketing yall
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:31 AM
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I'm sorry if you thought it was something else but what did you think it was that makes people hook up? Being hot and flirty, being non-threatening and available are the non-negotiables in an encounter where you don't find out anything about their personality or values, and it's based on literal reproductive biology lust. If you're known for being good in bed that might make women curious enough to look past looks. But I'm almost 100% sure men's view of hot and women's are not the same, based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:45 AM
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I would say this gently if I could but who on earth comes to this horrible forum looking for dating advice? Every other post is complaining about never even being seen by women, these are not people you'd want dating advice from!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:46 PM
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Literally, you're not putting your hand up her dress it's drawing a circle on the shoulder...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:41 PM
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Yeah, on this sub especially the general sexlesness (this is what it seems like) makes some people think women only choose their partners based on hotness and willingness to date. Not personality compatibility, shared interests, dreams, goals, values, experiences, fun, humor, family dynamics etc etc etc. Makes me really worried about what the dudes actually think about their girlfriends and why they chose them...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:37 PM
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For sure. In my own experience and from talking to my friends about it it seems like more men want to turn the hookup into something serious than the other way around. My friends who do have casual sex are pretty clear on the personality incompatibilities they have with their hookups, and don't usually want more than sex from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:35 PM
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No I don't, with both my ex and my current boyfriend we fucked on the second date and I dated both of those guys for years hahah, but I see your point. I however also think it's reasonable to want to take it slower when you're looking for a relationship both for men and women. Sex does increase the feelings of closeness and affection, even when there's not a lot of actual compatibility there and when you're looking for a serious relationship, you may want to hold off on sex during the first whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:20 PM
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Sure, but it's not given out with that in mind. If I wanna fuck a hot guy who is a flaming bigot, in spite of him being that, that's because he looks good and I'm horny - not because I think bigotry is good and I wanna reward his poor ideologies with my vagina. But I 100% agree, if other men can't see how the standards we put on personality in casual sex vs relationships are different, that is definitely a huge problem. And if they see that and think "ah women are attracted to bigots" instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:08 PM
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What a huge cope for women not wanting to sleep with men they're not attracted to! Maybe it feels like a reward to you but it's not given out out of pity or as a reward for behaviour, people just wanna fuck other people and get fucked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:37 PM
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I've never heard anyone claim they were more attracted to their past hookups than their romantic partners, so until there's proof of that I will stay doubtful. But I wouldn't be too surprised honestly, the risks of casual sex for women are huge - assault, unwanted pregnancy, STDs, plus the high risk that the sex will be less than great you kinda have to be stupidly horny for the person to get over those things. And seeing as the whole driving force of the encounter is physical attraction and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:37 PM
7

Surely the "average woman" who dates an ok looking man wouldn't date him if she wasn't attracted to him at least from the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:22 PM
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I don't date ok looking men, never have never will. Only the top 10% here at 6'8 at least with 10 inch monster cock
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:17 PM
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Women are attracted to hot people, as are men. I never cried about women being attracted to hot assholes but a hot person can be physically attractive in spite of having a bad personality, they're not mutually exclusive. I never said sexual attraction is only based on personality, and yes it is a lie that needs to die hard that women will fuck you as long as you're nice - women want to fuck hot people, just like men do. But some women do care more about personality, as evident by going outside a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:14 PM
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Yes, I'm sure we are all lying and would secretely love to both fuck and date ugly men!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:10 PM
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The issue with this mindset, that women shouldn't want to sleep with hot assholes because they'd be "rewarding them with pussy" when that's not how it works at all. Sex isn't a reward you give people, it's an act you take part in/experience you share and in a hookup you give to each other just as much as you take.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:53 PM
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Exactly, he has to outwards seem like a non-threatening person, otherwise I couldn't relax enough to hook up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:47 PM
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Is he hot enough for a hookup? Hookup. Is he hot enough for a hookup and also a nice person to be around who shares values, goals, and hopefully interests that I actually enjoy talking to and spending time with? Relationship. ETA: for a hookup he has to be flirty/somewhat more uninhibited or social. A shy hot guy is not gonna be as attractive for a hookup as a loud, outgoing hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:15 PM
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I didn't even say you can't try - people can be attracted to you without giving a sign, so go ahead ask out whoever you want. But people do generally want to be asked out by those they're attracted to, doesn't mean they're offended if someone they're not attracted to tries, jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:49 AM
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Yeah it did because everyone is on it now instead of going outside and experiencing the real world, where in these scenarios OP wrote about happens about 1/100th as often as the internet claims it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:59 PM
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"not that attracted" doesn't mean you put in more effort. I can find a gorgeous man hot as shit and still just wanna be fucked and not care if he gets off or not as long as I get mine, as can and do many other both men and women. I don't, because I'm not a selfish lover, but if I did it wouldn't have anything to do with my attraction to the person
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:37 PM
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I've asked this question a million times and been downvoted for it just as many times. Some people don't have close friendships/relationships with family like that and feel that sexual intimacy enriches their life so much that a romantic relationship adds more to their lives than friendships. It is what it is - we're all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:32 PM
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I'm a woman who genuinely relates to you. For me dating has been mostly to get some flirty fun/attention, have that fun exciting feeling with new people. I don't really like relationships as much as I like a person and am willing to put up with my own issues that arise in me in a relationship/the confines of monogamy to be with someone I love. ETA: apart from the physical affection and closeness, and the shared memories and experiences that grow with a relationship there is nothing it can give t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:30 PM
2

This feels so disconnected from reality, when the majority of posts regard men's struggles with finding a relationship/dating - how are they supposed to have kids young...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:28 PM
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I didn't say that, but like... most people want those they're attracted to to want them back and don't want those they're not attracted to to want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:48 PM
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Wouldn't care as long as he also does the stuff I want to do and has a satisfying sex life with me/treats me as well as I want to be treated in general. If he did stuff before that he doesn't want to do anymore then I am fine with that as long as it's not stuff I feel like I need, and even if I do need it then depending on the reason I can accept it. ETA: "somewhat good looking" is a fat no however, I don't date men I'm not stupidly attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:02 PM
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And because some women are terrible at seeing the blatant red flags staring at them. In other news, men and women are not monoliths and water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:52 PM
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I don't know how often that actually happens in real life. Don't most women just take the compliment, say thanks, and hope the ugly guy isn't saying it to get a shot at a date/get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:52 PM
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Got bored of the conversation/didn't feel that excitement that maybe talking to friends or other guys gives. Found someone more interesting, just simply forgot to reply, lost interest and didn't feel like it had been long enough to tell him - just not texting would give the hint that she's not into it. Just wanted some attention, or just doesn't know how to tell someone you're not interested anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:25 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:31 PM
1

Maybe I should have written "based on reading the posts and comments on this subreddit". My friends don't seem to have any problems getting first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:17 PM
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If you have anorgasmia I would see a doctor. If you can cum via mouth, your hand, her hand, in a woman on birth control who would get an abortion should she become pregnant - you don't have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:02 AM
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Sure, but our biology is still prevelant and doesn't change over just a few thousand years. It's the reason men have a higher sex drive and are attracted to more women, it's the reason women are choosier of physical attributes - like every other sexually dimorphic animal on the planet. Expecting people to logic their way out of that is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:24 AM
2

Yeah men truly are the victims because they can't... cum inside with every woman they have sex with...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:20 AM
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I didn't say that, but if he finds it impossible to be attracted to anyone other than super models, yet finds physical attraction too important in a relationship to settle then there's not much I can tell him. By looking at the men my friends and acquantainces date, I can confidently say that women are attracted to a wide range of men, most of which are by no means models or the "top 10%".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:29 PM
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What do you base that statement on, that sounds untrue. And I wouldn't wanna date someone I have to wait to be attracted to, I wanna date someone who's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 08:25 PM
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I don't think women's standards are too high, as long as there are people to meet them. And if the roles were reversed, I'm pretty sure men would also go after women they find physically attractive and then get their hearts broken sometimes than go after someone they're not attracted to. ETA: but yes, if every man you meet is an asshole maybe you're bad at picking. I've always been the one to ask out, I've always asked out men I've been attracted to - while they have both been conventionally hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:26 PM
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But I doubt any man would want that. "Honey, my heart wanted someone hotter than you that I actually find attractive but my mind knew you were a suitable partner so I made myself see you in a different light😍" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:24 PM
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I didn't say it was easy for men to get a suitable partner, I even said it's harder for men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:20 PM
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If women are attracted to only those men, and then they turn out to be assholes then yeah that sucks. Considering there are hot people of both genders who don't suck though, I don't see why women should be encouraged to settle for partners they're not attracted to - and I really don't see how women settling for men they find unattractive is nice for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 05:23 PM
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I said men have it worse objectively, and women can still think they have it bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 05:17 PM
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Struggling woman narrative is becoming popular because women self reportedly are struggling with dates who only want them for sex, people who treat them badly on dates, not being able to find a man they're attracted to who also wants commitment or the same things they want etc. No one describes their own situation in relation to others, so if they feel like they're struggling they're obviously gonna say it. Not go "I'm really struggling but actually nvm men say they have it worse, I'm not gonna …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:03 PM
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By that logic we could also just eugenics our way into only birthing boys with genes for optimal attractiveness, but for some reason I get the feeling that idea wouldn't be as popular with OP...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:57 PM
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Yes they do. Women, by default of biology, have it easier because men need to throw out a wider net for procreation while women need to be pickier due to the risk and investment of their procreation. Women may find it hard to find a suitable partner, but have an easier time in general getting dates, while many men have a very hard time even getting a first date. I don't think there's much of a debate to have about this? Almost everyone feels they have it harder because they never experienced the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:44 PM
1

"They don't know what they're talking about." Surprising :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:55 PM
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But then why do we need to call the qualities feminine or masculine if both sexes can be both? There's no need to group them together, and the distinction between work titles is important because they entail different roles, responsibilities etc. that have actual consequences in the workplace. Ik it can be tempting to see things from a traditional lens, but there's really no reason to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:54 PM
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To me, buying is worse. Until I see you being forced to do so, you are not a victim if you are buying while people who sell across the world very often are. "Do you blame the drug dealer or the addict" - drug addiction is not chemically or biologically the same as a sex addiction, which most people who buy sex in fact do not have. If they did I would have more sympathy, but as that is not the case, buying is far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:18 AM
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Because you don't get attention from the opposite sex you see any attention as a privilege, when women explicitly say the sexualization and attention they've received since childhood sucks and they don't want it. And because you haven't lived their experience, and mostly because you are unhappy with your own situation, you can not possible believe they're being truthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:15 AM
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If it doesn't matter who does what, why don't we just call the qualities what they are? Nurturing, decisive, emotional, rational, strong leadership, desire to compromise. Why name it masculine or feminine at all if it has nothing to do with gender roles? And eastern philosophy and western psychology both are rife with gendered language
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:51 PM
3

WOOOOOW. How many times have you been proposed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:33 PM
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No, I'm 24 and dated them between 20-24. Do you think not being proposed to at 20-24 is a sign you're a whore...?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:08 PM
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I don't get unwanted or wanted attention really from men, so approaching has just made sure I get wanted attention. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:17 AM
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The issue was that people happily assume women are fine dating men they're not attracted to and then get upset when women are in fact not fine with that, but would never assume a man would want to date an unattractive woman. The scale of what is attractive being smaller for women doesn't change that women also want to be attracted to their partners. So what does the scale matter? And it could be attributed to biology just as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:25 AM
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My type body wise changed, not from getting fit (as it is very hard to actually realize how much your own looks have changed) but from having weightlifting as a hobby and thus often dating guys who also have that as a hobby, and them tending to look a certain way. But I don't expect my partner to become or do anything, if that's what you're asking? I take him as he is and expect him to do some type of physical activity for health as I am not willing to spend my later life being the only one stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:47 AM
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Yep, same. I don't use any physical trait to shame anyone - if we're at the point where shaming is called for, the person usually has terrible personality traits I can bash on instead. I also don't wanna end up insulting really nice people with said personality trait who might overhear the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:43 AM
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Well fucking duh. When a man claims he wants a woman who's funny or kinky, we don't collectively go "aah so he is okay with her being fat and ugly so long as she's funny". Never have, never will so I don't see why women aren't awarded that same privilege of it being assumed that they want an attractive partner first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:36 AM
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Considering we never met, talked and didn't run in the same circles before we started dating, I would be seriously creeped out if he told me that. Brutal honesty is just tactlessness marketed as a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:32 AM
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I've approached my whole life and not once have I been told I'm lose or whorish, and me being straight forward is what has been named as one of my better qualities by the men I've dated. I have however gotten a lot of dates with men I've been attracted to, so I'd recommend approaching to all women!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:28 AM
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I'm sure most guys have at some point also been the ugly guy friend of the group who is never approached. Or all of them. Why do women need to be pretty or throw out cues to get attention? Just ask the guy out yourself. I've done it all my life and I can not think of a dating strategy that has had a better success rate. Granted I've been rejected multiple times, and some people have been crazy, but those make good stories lol. I feel like you have misunderstood what it's like to approach a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:25 AM
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Of course not, if we did you wouldn't see a million couples every day of all different combinations, heights, looks, careers. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:19 AM
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Masculine/feminine polarity is bullshit. It's just gender roles but reinvented to appeal to young people. My boyfriend looks very masculine and is more typically male in his hobbies too (think video games, collecting figurines, gym, manga) but is also an introvert and very soft spoken in groups of people. He does not have a leader type personality and can not make a decision if his life depended on it lol, and other than for time-saving reasons that is not a problem for me. He has typical mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:10 AM
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This is too funny to me lol and I love hearing it from other people! Masculine/feminine energy is just gender roles reinvented to sound like a romantic and cool thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:02 AM
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Your personal preference for a partner aside, are people not allowed to change their minds about how they go about dating and getting into meaningful relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:28 PM
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Yeah I am not american but I can't imagine any adult parent wants their newly adult child to date someone who's well into their middle age...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:49 AM
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Agree completely. And there's the added annoying bonus of men defending sex workers saying "it's just a job, at every job you sell your body" but then being open about how they would never date a sex worker and no one will want them or love them. If it's just a job then why not date someone like that? No other job makes people say you're unlovable, so then it's not just a normal job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:49 PM
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"It's hard as a guy, opening up to friends. It feels like most guys around me are not open to discussing deeper or personal issues and when I bring them up even with closer friends I get a "yeah that sucks bro" more often then support or curiosity about how I feel etc." "People treat me like I am not also a parent to my own child, and ask where mom is, says he misses mom when he cries, tells me mom should get more of our paid parental leave and I should be happy with any. I want to be seen as ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:37 PM
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Bad and also indifferent? What else is there to feel. I don't know any men in real life, single or not, who say the things the men say here or act the way they do, so while it does make me feel bad that people on here act this way it is not something I have to interact with on a daily at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:33 PM
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I think women are just as straight as they think they are, just that men in general are hornier and have higher libido/biological drive to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:48 PM
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Biology
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:09 AM
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A man can reach this level of attractiveness to a woman, but on a general large scale men will in general desire sex with more women than women will with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:08 AM
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They all care about size but I've never met someone who says it needs to be big, all want average
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:42 AM
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Okay well then this post is pointless if you're not gonna believe what the people answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:41 AM
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In that case working parents work two jobs, as they're sahp in the evening and mornings and working their normal jobs during the day. Not getting a bonus for extra hard work doesn't mean the work is harder in itself. I worked fast food and that was tough, but I didn't get any bonuses. Yeah well, there not being a promotion is what the role entails so that is an odd requirement. The promotion ig is having raised your kids well? You can - if you have any work experience or education you can put yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:59 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:39 PM
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Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:23 PM
3

So... yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:23 PM
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Well duh but that also sounds like a shitty friend
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:17 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:08 PM
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Okay I'm not in the US lol this is not my reality. And primary breadwinner according to that graph means earning 60% of the money, not 100% and that to me is still quite equal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:07 PM
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A man who likes her personality and enjoys her company probably would. That is what we date people for after all. I imagine it's very case by case too, is she single because her ex cheated? Do they coparent amicably? Is she a widow etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:04 PM
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Who does that nowadays? Majority of women have jobs and bring in income just like their husbands do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:00 AM
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Do you have some kind of hatred towards single mothers and wish for them to be shunned by other men or something? In my experience the situation he described is the outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:19 AM
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You're right, my bad. Our views on what type attractive women have appears to be the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:21 AM
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Period, king. It's time these disgusting feminists give up some pussy to the unattractive and lonely men of reddit so they can have something to get up in the morning for. We all gotta contribute to society!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:16 AM
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You said all women seem to have a type and they won't get with a weak, poor or meak dude. I said all women around me seem to get with unattractive or objectively less attractive dudes. Our perception of the type women seem to have appears to be the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:07 AM
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Ewww omg who is this unmanly man who wants to please me and make me cum during sex wtfffff I'd rather he just treat me like a hole #NoRespectForMunchers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:03 AM
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I don't, and I'd be more likely to lose respect for a man who doesn't. Nobody should be forced to do any sexual act they don't want to do but refusing to do something intimate and pleasing for your partner out of fear of not being seen as manly or a leader or whatever the fuck is said on RP is not an admirable thing. How weak is your masculinity and your leadership skills that some pussy will kill it? And yes I'd say the same thing to a woman claiming sucking penis is unwomanly or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:02 AM
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It's not only by women though, it's by men too. Fathers who tell their teenage daughter things like "I know exactly what guys want from you and it's disgusting" when they start dating boys, guys who joke about other men as if they're basement dwellers who just sit at home and jerk off, or who claim no man could just be friends with a woman without thinking of her sexually etc. Comments like this along with the very openly talked about risk of getting raped at parties, raped on dates, raped in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:58 AM
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I personally don't care much about porn-watchers, I myself watch it and while I am aware of how gross and predatory the industry famously has been I can't say watching porn is something that ruins my image of a person. I have nothing against prostitutes seeing as what I offer in a relationship is not threatened by what she would offer. I would offer enthusiastic and consensual sex as well as love, she would provide a paid service that allows you to have sex with someone who wouldn't touch you fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:52 AM
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Really? All I see around me are attractive women with men who are objectively as attractive or less physically attractive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:45 AM
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Ooooor they're not desperate and unpopular but actually like the woman, like kids and are so happy with her that being part of that family makes their lives happier as a result?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:43 AM
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Exactly, talk about infantilizing and insulting. "I don't think you're capable enough of handling your emotions to not fall in love with me if I'm nice to you, in spite of you being a full grown adult, so I'm not gonna befriend you. It's for your own good!" like what the hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:37 AM
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You completely ignored the fact that they're most likely lonely and attracted to women. So when a woman comes along and gives them special attention, they might think they might have a shot with her? In addition, oftentimes, women don't showcase their attraction towards a man straightforward. So how can you expect an already lonely, probably socially inept man to keep up with that? So when women treat their male friends as they would treat their female friends the guys think the woman is in love…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:35 AM
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Yeah why? Are men too simple minded to recognize the difference between a potential partner vs just a friend? Do men feel they have romantic potential with all women they meet their own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:30 AM
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Yeah this guy seems like a pretty shit friend ngl. I let all my friends, male and female, whine and complain and whatever else about both relationships, crushes and sexual partners because I'm not trying to fuck any of them so I will be supportive of their endeavours of fucking other people. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:27 AM
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No B-b-B-buT I DeSErVe to hAvE KiNky Sex!1!11 She should give it up to me because I deserve the same experiences as she gave her exes, even if she hated it then and hated it now! I want her to find me so hot she suffers to provide me with the sex I deserve to have tried!!!1 /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:07 AM
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Yes? So then men and women both fall in love for what the other can provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:02 AM
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I'd argue men and women who watch porn equally contribute to an industry that famously treats its workers quite poorly and adds to the sexualization of women. From a feminist perspective I don't think who watches it matters as much as the outcome - more money and attention to the industry, and a worse view of sex for both men and women. Women too can have their minds hurt by porn and develop bad habits and mindsets around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:00 AM
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The word love has even more meaning now than ever before since we now choose our partners freely, not based on need for financial stability, based on need for house care or childcare, etc. We pick based on who we like, so love has its true meaning now. Emotional attachment is absolutely a part of love, if we were emotionally detached from our partners the reasons for staying with them would only be practical. That being said, what do you think love should be if not emotional attachment? And the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:57 AM
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And men fall in love for what women can do for them? Emotional support, sex, care, entertainment. This is how humans work, love is not unconditional, nor should it be - that would be moronic and would make it completely not special.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:53 AM
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Considering this is the truth in almost every sexually dimorphic species, yes, it makes sense that humans would be the same way. (Way less posting about it on reddit from the animal kingdom, which is sad)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:03 AM
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So instead of trying to make friends as an adult, they're going to complain about all these reasons that are out of our individual control and claim they are what stops them from just meeting some people at work, through hobbies, through other friends? If that's your mindset, that you are now completely a victim of your social circumstances, yes it will be hard to make friends. If they recognize that it might be hard but there are ways to meet people (which there 100% is), and maybe talk more to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:59 AM
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It's not a humiliation ritual, it's just a nerdy guy'd dream of getting the hot girl despite being completely incompatible with her life and really not attractive. Leonard would be hot if he stopped being such an insecure doormat but other than that, the show is completely unrealistic. As it is a show.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:51 AM
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Literally! Can you imagine there ever existing a reversed Hunchback of Notre Dame where the tall, dark and handsome guy wants the hunchback woman with googly eyes? Fuuuuck noooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:48 AM
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That's such bullshit. A man would never date a woman he finds unattractive, yet women are often told to "see past looks and see him for his inside instead", me and all my friends have at some point in our lives. Only dating people you find attractive because you're biologically inclined to spread your genes whenever you can - so you find more people hot, is not "being kinder about appearance", and it's not a virtue either. Looking past appearance would be, which men do not do as literally no man…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:44 AM
1

Apart from the fact that men are generally more likely to be treated and seen as a threat by the general public, women have social life on easy mode because they make it easy for each other. Every situation I'm in socially - work, school, conferences, parties, gym classes, neighbours, etc. women are talking to each other in one way or another and are open to that. Most men it seems are not open to that, and if they were - social life for men would be easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:34 AM
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It's not wrong for men to reject women on the basis of their emotional and mental health. It's also not wrong for women to reject men who consider women that have been through hard times, or have had previous sexual experience damaged, and by god I hope they do reject those kind of men. Especially hope the young women do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:25 AM
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That quote is from BoJack?? I need to watch it now, I’ve been wondering that for so long
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:37 PM
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YES bro thank you, that is exactly the vibe of this post. Yet another way to portray feminism as an acceptable thing as long as it follows what men like lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:28 PM
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Anyone, woman or man, lacking self respect is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:21 PM
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That is so pathetic, I'm sorry. Allowing yourself to be walked over by someone who doesn't respect your wishes is better to you than living a fulfilling life single with hobbies, interests, work, family and friends? Humans in relationships aren't as easily exchangeable as you think, because we value people with our emotions. If you're in a relationship, you usually like the person and are willing to make some sacrifices to stay with them. The average man can absolutely behave in a way that's hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:01 AM
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Because women still want to fuck the people they marry, they just also want to deal with their nice personality traits and do both of those things long term? RP presents "alpha fucks beta bucks" as douchy guys get pussy and nice meak men have to pay for everything to keep a woman interested since she just settled for him and doesn't actually want him, when that's not an accurate representation of the world at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:50 AM
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Exactly, I feel like the answer to this question is "do they?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:48 AM
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I thought he was ridiculously hot on Hinge, swiped on him and hoped he'd like me back and hoped he also had a nice personality. He saw my profile stating I love random sea creature facts, he wrote me a sea fact about orcas without knowing that is actually my favorite sea creature fact - and the rest is history.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:00 AM
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I tried to answer your question but I find it hard to imagine what a masculine man would look like aside from his looks. I can't identify masculinity based on x traits, it's just the whole package and the balance of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:58 AM
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Nope, I like sex and the excitement that comes with it so I can not date someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:28 PM
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Just make a prenup before marrying and then divorce, don't cheat on your partner. Hello.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:58 AM
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Right? Hot people are hot, and there are hot people of all ages. What will this post help people with? Like what will be gained from this, we all still age anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:52 AM
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I singled out both Drake and 50 cent in another comment directed at the OP so don't worry, I have no problem criticizing black misogynist rappers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:40 AM
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Do you think that could be because they are far more famous and have been around for 10+ years, while Sabrina's song literally came out a week ago? Or because the lyrics are more aggressive and violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:36 AM
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If they were ugly and abusive I don't think they would get half the amount of advances
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:30 AM
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Because he's the one I actually listen to regularly so I know his lyrics. What do you want this gotcha to be, that I call his lyrics out for being misogynistic because he's white? Guess what guys, black and brown rappers like 50 cent and xxxtentacion also have misogynist lyrics. Who would have thought! And I said this in other comments :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:23 AM
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It's almost like he's a perfect example of a misogynist male artist who still got and stayed famous lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:23 PM
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No? Dating, aka going on dates with someone, has pretty much always been the part where you get to know people, maybe go on dates with different people to see who you click best with before becoming more committed to one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:58 PM
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I'm not surprised if other women are drawn to men who are willing to lie, manipulate and coerce. Most likely these people come off as confident, outgoing, social or uninhibited. I bet most dudes don't chose the quiet and nice sweet girl for hooking up, while the super hot, confident woman who has slept with lots of dudes but lies about it and will key your car can get anyone for sex lol. Why is it so surprising to you that people want to have casual sex with hot unreliable and wild people, but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:55 PM
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100%! Most men and women who want sex know which information to keep private to increase their chances of getting laid, plus - let's say most casual sex happens on first dates, at bars, via dating apps. Most likely you haven't shared things like political views or how many people you've slept with that early on in knowing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:51 PM
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Literally, press shuffle on Eminem's discography and it's a coin toss if the song will be normal ish or about choking a whore out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:07 PM
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Yes bro, they have gotten away with it! What?? Literally half the songs by Eminem: Kill you, Superman, Kim, Mom etc. Songs by 50 Cent, Drake, A Bitch Iz a Bitch by N.W.A, the list goes on and on (and on)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:54 PM
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For sure. I've known men who have fucked the most vile, mean, abusive women ever just because they were hot. Like this is not news, people who want sex care more about hotness than personality when choosing someone to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:01 AM
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No idea - I don't do that, I don't know anyone who does that. Probably for the same reason some people mock pride month - because they suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:57 AM
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It's a bad thing for me. It signals you don't care about the state of the world, about community or what's better for the greater good of society. I think you should be engaged in the world around you and at least muster up some energy to care about what affects your fellow people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:56 AM
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This is stupiiiiiiid. Men and women both love on the condition of being treated well, having physical intimacy or affection, sex, being talked to, supported, seen, your partner being attracted or attractive to you, sharing goals and values etc etc etc. On top of that, if unconditional love was real it wouldn't be some kind of noble thing. People want to be loved with conditions - we want to be chosen, physically and emotionally desired, and be someone's person, someone who's special to them. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:54 AM
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I'd say most people in general want someone who leads, in all aspects of life, and I'm pretty sure there is some science behind this? As humans we don't want the burden of responsibility and decision making, it's easier to have someone else carry that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:51 AM
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I don't know them? Do you know them? Based on the discourse here, the blue pilled women do not seem to be paricularly fond of the redpill guys, nor do the purple pill women but...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:32 PM
1

Because this redpill woman/pinkpill woman who commented said red pill women among themselves discoursge each other from dating redpill men and don't consider them high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:55 PM
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I don't think onlyfans is feminist, it's just more equality-driven because women can choose what they post themselves and they get all the profits themselves, than for example on pornhub. I don't hate guys who use it but it feels to close to a parasocial relationship for me so I don't want to date a man like that. And I doubt a man would want to date a woman who spends her money chatting with a Henry Cavill look alike who flexes and jerks it on camera lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:14 AM
1

Yeah sure but that's really the main reason. In my assumption of promiscuous it's a person who practices safe sex, although that is likely not the real life scenario lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:17 AM
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I can only speak for myself in this. I don't want a child because it's just not a life I want and I don't really enjoy kids until they're adults - but the second main reason is just how unfair the biological burden of pregnancy, breastfeeding etc. is on the woman while the man literally just had to nut - at least now that both parents work. And I've yet to meet a man who makes up for that unfairness with his amazing treatment of his pregnant wife/taking care of everything during and after.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:58 AM
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Yes! But you said women have no incentive to change as long as men are chasing them - why would women change if men stop chasing them - according to my anecdote won't women just continue having their high standards but only look for those guys and ask those out themselves then is what I'm asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:52 AM
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LOOOOOOOOOL or because if the women start chasing the men they will chase the men that fit their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:48 AM
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There is! But, the ones I asked out all said yes when I asked them, and I still ended up with a man I think most redpillers would dislike even more than a "Chad" so... even though this is just an anecdote, I don't think men stopping chasing women completely will 1. happen and 2. change women's standards much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:31 AM
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... Did you not read the first part of my comment where I called it a great idea? I'm already not being chased by men, I've asked been the one to ask him out for 90% of dates I've been on at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:58 AM
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Of course attraction goes beyond that, but genuinely, having a nice body is a huge advantage - and surely a confidence booster too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:56 AM
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Ideally: oh my god, what a great idea Realistically: there's no way men will stop chasing women, regardless of how much this forum likes to say they hate women and women aren't worth it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:47 AM
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How do you figure that out? I've never been able to tell who's a virgin based on "vibe"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:07 AM
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They're not in my social/work/school circle - or if they are they're not talking about their lack of sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:43 AM
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TRUE
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:53 AM
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I have yet to meet a man that tries to get a date that is so fundamentally unattractive on every level that it has not happened in his entire life - but I also didn’t tell you you’re not allowed to visit a prostitute. I don’t see how having had sex with someone who doesn’t want it with you and is potentially a victim of trafficking somehow raises your ”status” or quality as a person to above being a virgin or makes you more socially impressive in any way, but if you want to go to a prostitute yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:52 AM
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I mean I’d also be wary if a racist said they’re only attracted to black people, so I don’t think that disproves my point of hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:47 AM
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Sure - that is another level of settling but I never mentioned that in my comment, you asaumed that's what I meant when I gave no indication of her giving any less effort with that guy than she did with her ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:58 AM
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I believe sex is an act which you either consent enthusiastically to because you want it with that person, or you don’t do it. Paying for sex means that person would not have sex with you for free (willingly and enthusiastically) and requires something in exchange to put up with it. That is not a view of sex that I wish my partners would hold, and it is important to me that we share this view of sex as something both people are in on happily, enthusiastically and not in exchange for money. Addit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:44 AM
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So then why doesn't he date someone who he has a sexual relationship with instead of dating this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:46 AM
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Because their relationship is romantic and is set up from the beginning so that sex will be a part of it in the future. If he thinks it's important to have a romantic relationship that includes sex from the start, why doesn't he just go and do that instead of this weird set up of being in a romantic relationship but then having sex with others on the side?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:30 AM
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I'm just saying that if you're looking for a partner for life and this one has everything including being great in bed, but maybe some person was slightly better, I don't think it's a problem to settle in that aspect of the relationship when the other qualities are far better than what you could have hoped for in a partner. If someone values their partner being the best they ever had above all other qualities then yes, settling for less will make you unhappy, but I think most people are happier …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:39 AM
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No we're not? We're not talking about the amount of effort she's putting into the relationship, you're talking about that and replying to my comment that is not talking about that, adding your own contexts and getting upset over those when that's not what the discussion was about. We're talking about what the comment says - everyone settles in some aspects and since sex isn't all there is to a relationship, as long as the two people are happy and enjoying their sex life then whether sex was more…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:28 AM
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I'm not sugarcoating it, I'm making up a scenario and you are adding your prejudices to it based on your negative experiences or something else. My scenario is literally what I wrote, and you and other commenters are adjusting it to make it more negative. I never said the female partner isn't experimenting, I never said they're a starfish or having vanilla sex, giving low effort or aren't attracted to him anymore. I just said they have a great sexlife both are happy with, but that he might not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:21 AM
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Do you think dead bedrooms happen for couples that have great sex just because the woman was with one other person before who was slightly better in bed but in general a worse partner? Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:17 AM
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Nope. Communication is also a fundamental building block of a relationship, that doesn't mean you need to date a clinical psychologist specializing in open communication for couples for the relationship to be good and not be "a betrayal of yourself". I still don't understand what you mean by the compromising thing, do you think being in a relationship with someone you like is a compromise? Would you rather be with someone you dislike? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:25 PM
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For whom is the woman liking you a compromise? The man being liked or the woman liking him, who is compromising? Nowhere in any of these comments was it suggested that the woman being married to a man who isn't the best she's ever had sex with goes around and tells people that. That could be something she keeps entirely to herself, so I don't know why you're adding so many assumptions to this scenario. In fact it was literally written in my first comment that both people treat each other with lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:15 PM
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All I'm hearing is it's fine for men to settle in some aspects for women but women should find everything about the man she's with better than anyone she's ever been with before, and that is ridiculous. If a man is committing to a woman in full, yet she is not offering her absolute best back, there's an incongruence. You just said the man is probably settling in other regards, so then they're both not offering their best - aka they're on equal footing. A person can have wild sex with someone whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:10 AM
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Yeah maybe 2nd best in one aspect, but 1. there's more to a relationship than physical attraction that she is likely not settling for here, and 2. considering how much men complain here about how hard it is to find a woman, it can't possible be that men all get their ideal perfect woman? Everyone settles in some way, I don't see why that is such a terrible thing as long as your partner treats you in a way that makes you feel loved and appreciated? If you have a great sex life with your partner a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:49 AM
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Hell I literally saw a short stubby unattractive man with a taller smoking hot girlfriend today But that can only be because that guy has a huge penis or is a millionaire!!! It can't be because he has a nice personality and good values that his hot girlfriend likes him for!11 /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:15 AM
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I mean I agree lying and manipulating is terrible - as is treating casual sex like a sport, but I don't agree that men cycling through women is a bad thing on a societal level if those women are willingly and happily having sex with these guys - and everyone is open and honest about their intentions. While that may be unlikely in a society, I think saying that women having casual sex with men leaves them broken, bitter and unfit for relationships is a terrible claim and I'm curious if you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:12 AM
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Why should promiscuous men face backlash? Assuming they're not lying and stuff to get said sex, and it's all ethical
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:49 AM
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I feel like your comment is in response to someone else, as it has nothing to do with what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:48 AM
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Bingo. But just like how lots of men want a woman who hasn't slept around out of fear of STDs, being compared to her past partners, incompatible views on sex as recreational fun vs as a way to connect romantically and show love, being judged for his lack of experience etc. there's lots of women who don't want a man who has slept around for the same reasons and those women most likely would want a man with little to no sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:38 AM
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I doubt the women who use virgin as an insult are the ones who want a virgin man, just like I doubt the men who want a sexually promiscuous woman use slut as an insult towards said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:31 AM
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What do you think are the other reasons for men's QOL being lower than women's? And I think yeah, a lot of people complain about not being able to find a partner and I think it is partially due to both an increasingly self-absorbed general society due to social media among other things, causing people to not see themselves in a realistic light - but also, I'm not sure most women want to marry the same man they hook up with. A hook-up requires pretty much no other qualities besides hot and (maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:11 AM
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I doubt the women who are not sleeping around want a man who sleeps around, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:04 AM
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Yeah I also didn't know that, wow. So then who wants the red pill men (except other red pill men lol), since neither blue nor red pill women don't want them? No-pilled women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:03 AM
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Do you think because of the unfairly placed risk/reward of procreation and the way male and female relationships/friendships with other people of the same sex are currently - women (in general) start at a higher life satisfaction level and are looking for someone who won't bring it down, while men start at a lower one and look for someone who will bring it up? I don't believe women look for reasons not to like men, but I think being the one with more options allows you to be pickier, and when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:01 AM
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I personally don't care about earning more but I want someone who earns roughly similar to me or at least enough to live the same kind of life as me so we can do fun things together. I don't want to provide for someone financially because to me that's what a parent or caregiver does, and as long as we're both healthy and able I want us to be equal in that regard. I don't want a man to provide for me either, hence my take on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:57 AM
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I don't know to what extent other women dislike or like men who modify a lot of of themselves, but I think both men and women prefer people who don't present themselves as having modified themselves. I don't think it has to do so much with only liking natural and innate traits though, as it does having ideas/prejudice about what people who have acquired those things are like. In a lot of those "who's more attractive, this shredded body builder or this somewhat fit guy"-videos where men ask women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:53 AM
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What power does a short, broke, average looking guy have then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:16 PM
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Let's lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:34 AM
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I think men want sex with women more than women want sex with men because men have 20 times more testosterone than women, and a reproductive system that makes them fertile all the time - not just once a month. I also think the emotional intimacy part of relationships is less of a driver for women because women on average have more emotionally intimate and supportive friendships with other women, than men do with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:54 AM
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Women, like men, are not a hive mind. I’m 90% sure the women who want men to be more emotional are not the ones who claim they get the ick when men are emotional and open with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:39 AM
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I mean if my friend is an extremely anti-racist activist but says their preference is to never date black people I’d be wary. We are held to the standards we put on ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:42 AM
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The red pill ideology is inherently antifeminist, so if he actually says he adheres to it then he just would not be a feminist. Secondly, I despise hypocrites especially in gender discussion, so a man who sleeps around and has a high ”body count” but thinks a woman’s value lies in hers being low is not someone I’d consider a good feminist. Based on this I would call him a hypocrite, and would believe he is disingenuous. All the other preferences I do not care about at all, he’s more than allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:37 AM
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Whenever I’ve asked partners or male friends what gets them up in the morning it’s never the promise of pussy. And when I’ve suggested that is the case for some men, and that some claim it’s just biology - they’ve called it ridiculous. But according to you, I’m assuming men are a hive mind and thus these people I’ve talked to are lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:29 AM
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I think you are totally right - the ideas that 1. women don’t want sex, 2. women don’t care about looks - only personality and 3. women don’t want sex with hot people - are some of the more harmful ideas of the modern dating world. Women’s sexuality has historically definitely been shunned and downplayed, so it makes sense that ideals surrounding women’s lack of sexuality still exist - but the sooner we accept that men and women both want sex with people they find attractive, that personality an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:49 AM
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There’s a universe between having no agency and being responsible for someone else’s fidelity in their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:43 AM
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I'm sure you're right about some points but I have to ask - how can you overvalue or undervalue things in attractiveness? Attraction isn't a list of boxes you check, it's just a feeling that is hard to rationalize or explain. I've felt intense attraction towards men taller than me, shorter than me, white, brown, young, old etc. I don't look at the physical qualities of people and rank them, and then pick off of that - it's just there or it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:15 PM
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I will say, on dating apps absolutely women will reject men for stupid stuff because we get swiped on more --> more options --> whoever has more options can be pickier, of course. If you know there will be someone who checks more of your boxes who will swipe on you then you might as well look for them. I think men would be doing the same thing if the roles were reversed and women were not picky. From an evolutionary/biological perspective women need to be pickier because there's more risk in rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:36 AM
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Yeah of course, but just because one party gets hurt more doesn't mean there should be legal consequences for the other. Relationships are always risky and you always risk getting hurt one way or another. Being dumped, death, cheating, divorce, or needs going unmet will always hurt one person more than the other. That's kind of the thing with a relationship, and if you choose to be in one you choose to take that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:18 AM
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Oh no are you one of those people who think it's the responsibility of those outside the relationship to maintain the fidelity of said relationship. I mean they wouldn't be fucking the married man if the married man just kept his vow and stayed loyal to his wife, since he's the one obliged to do so - not the other woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:09 AM
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What? The repercussions are the end of the relationship and your partner telling anyone you're an untrustworthy cheater - "ruining" your reputation as a partner. Most cheaters don't want to be found out or served divorce paper because they want to have their cake and eat it too. And the reason people don't get married is that there's no reason to be except love and tax benefits - maybe not even that, or different benefits, depending on where you live. Women don't need a husband to have access to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:07 AM
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Do women around you say that they don't care if their partner is physically attractive to them? Because that is not the experience I have had with any woman I've met - all of them value looks in a partner. Not more than personality, but they are absolutely also visual creatures
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:24 AM
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Based on spending a fair amount of time on this subreddit I'd say this is the case for most RP men (at least here): They grew up thinking being nice will get you a girlfriend because of the "women are not visual creatures, men are - women are more attracted to personality" thing that's been going around since the dawn of time I guess. They think of themselves as nice people, maybe other people tell them they are too, and they still get no play. Then they find out men who are abusive, mean, misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:51 AM
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Point, blank. We do not need to have these long counter-arguments to the OP and whether the men who complain about this would like the women who have no dignity and sleep with men who hate them. It just comes down to "mean men are getting sex, while I'm nice and am not getting sex. I want sex: these women should sleep with me instead."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:47 AM
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Okay, well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:31 AM
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I answered the question though didn't I? I said size matters to me, too small is not good and too big is not good - average is nice. So no, bigger is not better. You claim men want the truth yet every time I or other women say this we're called liars, so which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:28 AM
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Chat, is it virtue signaling to say that sex is better when you're in love or attracted to the person you're having it with...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:12 AM
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Why did you tolerate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:01 AM
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Sure, but your claim was that it's not offensive, and it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:00 AM
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It is offensive, there's no way around it. It's like getting an STD test in a relationship and telling your partner about it but claiming you don't think they cheated, it "just happens in some cases so I had to know". You can still ask but it is always offensive to insinuate your partner cheated and that you don't trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:46 AM
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Sure. But I feel like a barely 20-year old dating a 40-year old, regardless of gender, is not really comparible to preferring a certain height or weight in a partner, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:28 AM
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Not being disgusting doesn't equal attraction. That's not what the question was about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:42 PM
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No - being a loser or not depends on other qualities and behaviours, but some of those may correlate with not getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:32 PM
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I see your point, and I think your right, I think our perspectives might be different. For example, I grew up where university is free for everyone, you even get paid a small sum every month as a student.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:49 AM
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Is he a loser to you? He's not a loser to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:49 AM
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I'm rarely talked over or not asked things back by other women so I find it hard to imagine that situation. In high school sure, but now as an adult I find most other women are eager to talk to new people? It's absolutely harder to get into the group than it is to stay in it, but isn't that incentive for dudes (and women) to be more inviting to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:50 AM
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Why do men ignore other men in social situations when women, according to your comment, don't exclude other women but ask them for a coffee after the class etc? Why don't guys work to include other guys in their social circles in these situations, and ask them out for a beer or something after the class?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:36 AM
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Absolutely valid to feel like kids bring you happiness, but if your entire life purpose and happiness is dependent on having a child you are shooting yourself in the foot. There is and can be more to life, but a lot of comments here insinuating a man's life is nothing without a family feels like self-inflicted unhappiness when they could just decide that's not all there is to their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:33 AM
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So any religion is fine or non religion, any political standing, any age, children doesn't matter - wants them or has them, sexual promiscuity doesn't matter etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:57 AM
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I answered maybe to that, and that's because I stereotype men who seek out jobs like police officer, military, security guards etc. (pretty much any job where you'd carry a weapon) as a person more inclined to violence. I don't want to date violent people, people who engage in MMA or other types of martial arts and so on because I'm not a violent person and violence turns me off. If he genuinely seemed like a wonderful, incredible perfect man I would consider it but when there are so many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:53 AM
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I'm 24, studying at university in a friend group who are all in the same master's program, and this is what we all do outside of work/school. We live in a northern European country with good work life balance. I don't think any of us have a sheltered life style, but our age and not having kids is probably the biggest factor in living the life we live. I really don't feel like the things I listed are signs of a privileged lifestyle though, especially since they're done outside of work/studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:40 AM
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I don't live in the states at all, I live in a Scandinavian country - I'm suspecting virgin shaming is a lot less prevalent here in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:33 AM
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No: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 13, 14, 17, 19 (he would legally be a child), 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 28 Yes: 9, 12, 15, Maybe: 6, 11, 15, 16, 18, 24, 27 (i'm not american so idk), 29, 30 (don't want kids)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:17 AM
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Well duh. I haven’t actually met anyone on- or offline who claims virgin men are bad people because they can’t get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:33 AM
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A man who is nice, respectful, fun to be around will never be considered disgusting just because he’s a virgin or doesn’t have regular sex. A guy who is socially inept and crosses boundaries, is boring, is outright sexist or in general has a lot of negative qualities and doesn’t get sex will be considered disgusting, yes. Not because he doesn’t get sex, but because he is not a nice person to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:21 AM
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I’d say based on data of how many women orgasm during intercourse, most women fall in the camp of having better self-induced orgasms lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:18 AM
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Are you genuinely suggesting that men not having "any purpose in life if he doesn’t have a family and kids" is women’s fault? Coz it kinda sounds like you put that on yourself dude. All the men I know have hobbies, goals in work or sports or their interests, friendships with other guys where they do stuff together and support eachother. They travel and spend time with their parents and siblings etc. The exakt same things the women around me do. These men don’t make a woman their sole reason to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:13 AM
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Yeah, because a small subgroup of both men and women who don’t know their self worth or don’t really respect themselves put up with absolute shit treatment for attention, validation and sex. Is this really news? And is sex with strangers so desirable that you’d wanna deal with those kind of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:07 AM
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If you go outside of reddit, one of the most radical and echo-chamber-y and frankly annoying platforms online, and look at the world outside of social media - I’m sure you will see that women who are femcels/radical misandrist feminists and use men is an extremely small subgroup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:01 AM
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There’s no "hookup culture", people are reportedly having less sex than ever. Trying to hook up is not a problem either, as long as you’re doing it with people who also want to hook up and aren’t lying about your intentions in dating to just get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:52 AM
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And it comes from a place of realization that most women who do sex work in sweden don't do it because they want to, but are often immigrants or trafficked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:15 AM
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Echo chambers are pretty much majority of the commonly used internet now. And me too oh my god hahah, some of the things I say here I would not say in real life. It’s easy to be outspoken about your radical ideas when you don’t have to face public condemnation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:16 AM
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Pretty much eeeeverything because I have met probably two men in my whole adult life for whom these critcisms apply. The rest of men I keep around me and interact with regularly are either wonderful and amazing, or just normal people. These are pretty much what I hear circle the internet though, not the real outside world: ”If he wanted to he would” - you want to do lots of stuff and don’t so why wouldn’t he be the same? ”All men are porn-brained and if he can’t get hard from looking at me he ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:57 AM
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Whelp, thanks for the reply anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:55 AM
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This is too funny - stop watching Only Fans then if you don't like it? Put your money where your mouth is! If so many men hated OF and think it's as damaging as you claim, they wouldn't be paying for it - and then there wouldn't be a market for it! Most regular porn-watchers are not addicts either, so don't hit me with the "whO Do YoU BLaMe, tHe drug DeALeR oR tHe AdDicT"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:34 AM
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Absolutely not, what the hell? I am straight, so women's bodies don't turn me on, and this sounds more American psycho than I would ever be comfortable with lol. And it reminds me of the Margaret Atwood quote of being a man in a woman's body, being your own voyeur.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:31 AM
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I don't want men to work longer hours or a dangerous job or any of that, I would literally do the exact same things I already do as a woman (which are coincidentally the same things I want men to do) if I was a man. I'd want to be emotional with my friends and talk about their achievements, their worries for the future etc. I'd wanna read a lot of books, go to the gym to see how strong I am in a male body, spend time with my family. I'd wanna flirt with cute girls and see if they think I'm hot, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:28 AM
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Because they don’t think they have it easy and they’ve never been a man dating a woman so they can’t fully comprehend what that’s like? Or the men around them don’t have a hard time finding dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:32 AM
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Not getting pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:12 PM
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Because being nice is the right thing to do regardless of gender? Not just to get pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:42 PM
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Yeah I apologize when I wrong people regardless of gender, and take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:05 PM
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I don't consider it sexual coercion, I just think it's shitty. At some point you gotta trust the people you sleep with and take responsibility for your choice to sleep with them, knowing they could be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:04 PM
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If the bar is in hell for women why don't men start demanding more of us, dating women who don't just meet the bare minimum, and raise the bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:04 AM
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Because I don’t want to depend on someone who could leave me without any money, jobless, homeless etc. I don’t want to feel like a leech and I live in a country with almost free and good childcare so there’d be nothing for me to do at home (and I don’t want kids so absoluteluy nothing for me to do at home). I want to create success for myself and I have a five year degree in stem that I want to use for good, not have wasted my time on to do nothing in the future. What would be the benefit of him…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:52 AM
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…Do you think OP sounds like a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:41 AM
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Other women thinking men were born to lead women gives me the ick. How does ”access to a woman’s presence, peace and potential” warrant anything from a man except those same things back? The only time men need to step up and provide more of everything without expectation is when their wife is pregnant with their child, because the scale of sacrifice is tipped so far in her direction already that anything he can do to make it even he should do. ETA: asking anyone what they bring to the table is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:39 AM
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Thank you, always said this and it pisses me off that people aren't listening to it. Who is hooking up???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:05 PM
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Of course not, in what world would what type of phone you have impact your attractiveness in the real world? That's like which bank you have your debit card from impacting your attractiveness...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:16 AM
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Are you asking me if physical attraction is the main driver in a relationship with someone that is based on wanting to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:51 AM
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"Men showing their attraction to any women they see gives women the upper hand in a lot of situations. Men should stop doing that if they don't want women to get attention and find a partner easily."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:40 AM
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So then romantic love doesn't exist? Romantic love is conditional on sexual fulfillment, your partner being nice, supportive, listening to you, being affectionate, paying attention to you, doing things with you etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:16 PM
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I study epigenetics, and ”desire for money” is not among the things that changes our genome, nor is attraction easily explained by genetics lol. And I just said that wanting a man to pay for dates doesn’t mean wanting to date a millionaire - I said nothing about wanting that for myself, I am fine going 50/50. I never said women are special for appreciating generosity, nor that they’re the only ones who want that so I don’t know why you brought that up. Paying for someone is one of the easiest wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:16 AM
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Unless there’s any research done on a larger scale than anecdotes that proves women at large would choose to partner with men who are mean, ugly, etc. as long as they have money there’s no backup for your claim. Wanting a man who makes roughly the same as you doesn’t mean you’re only with him for money, and wanting a man who pays for dates doesn’t mean he has to be a millionare. Maybe she just likes a generous man, even if he has little money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:12 AM
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No. I am neither religious or conservative so waiting until marriage is a weird sentiment to me, and I would not be compatible with someone who values that. I he is above 25, a nice and interesting person and physically hot I would wonder why he hasn’t had sex yet, and would assume it’s due to lack of interest - which would make me wonder if he is asexual or doesn’t care for sex. This would again be an incompatibility. Since I haven’t met men my age who are virgins, and have met wonderful men, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:06 AM
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They have to be physically attractive, relatively normal (non-violent, not a liar or extremist, not stupid) and fun to be around. Compared to a long term relationship they don’t need a nice family, they can be religious, their views on children/future commitments don’t matter. A casual fling doesn’t demand higher attraction but because a relationship allows for attraction and intimacy to grow, a casual fling needs to have more initial attraction to make up for the lack of intimacy/emotional attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:00 AM
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I honestly feel more like people not using the word loneliness correctly is the cause of loneliness lol. The definition of loneliness is ”Loneliness is an unpleasant emotional response to perceived or actual isolation.”, or being without company. The word people should use is sadness about being single, lacking a romantic partner or relationship, or sex. How a person who has close, satisfying and fun relationships with friends and family can still be lonely because they are not in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:54 AM
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A bad man at a societal level? Or as a friend? As a romantic partner? I’m assuming romantic partner. I can’t tell you universal traits as there are plenty of women dating abusive, neglectful, fat, unattractive, lazy, unempathetic, unmotivated and unambitious men. I can only say for my own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:38 AM
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Exactly, why is it even called ”the power of female sexuality” and not ”the weakness of male sexuality” that makes some men wanna fuck anyone and everyone and can’t get their priorities straight when there’s a semi-attractive woman near them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:33 AM
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This: Decent looking women are almost never actually “single”. They may not be official with someone at any given moment, but there is ALWAYS someone in the wings. Someone buying them drinks or dinner. Someone they maybe hook up with once in a while. Doesn’t disprove the first point at all, and by definition those women are single by any and all definitions so long as they’re not in a commited relationship. Most likely they’re happier and more at peace with said man, hence, the point still stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:30 AM
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Will this ever change do you think or is this a biological, hard-wired thing for humans (men)? Because this sub both makes me feel like it’ll never change, and outright tells me that (the men on this sub saying this will never change lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:28 AM
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Of course attraction is implied? I’m very confused about what the problem is, being physically attracted to your sexual partner or potential sexual and romantic partner is not a high standard. If the men they’re physically attracted to aren’t nice, honest or able to provide for themselves then yeah it’ll be hard to find someone. Especially since on this sub it’s very clear by men that being settled for by their partner in terms of looks is not something they want or would be fine with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:22 AM
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You would be correct. Blaming a parent who (hopefully) does their best raising their child alone is crazy, when the real issue is that that child grows up knowing their own father didn´t want them or love them enough to stick around. I have multiple friends whose fathers left them and their mothers and made new families and not once have they expressed disapointment with the way they were raised, and they are incredibly close with their mothers. They often on the other hand get angry talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:41 AM
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Yeah I don't see the point. "I treat a woman like a nice friend and she wants to be friends???? Wtf???"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:45 AM
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Don't you think a lot of it was societal conditioning though? Like the accepted thought was that men needed sex to the point of visiting brothels, and society encouraged women that that was normal and accepted - so women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:34 AM
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Whaaaat no way they were social charismatic people and that got them laid? No way, they must have been secret millionares with massive penis /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:32 AM
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Yes, *checks notes* so women should out of charity to men, lower their standards and make themselves unhappy so a random man isn't alone... that sounds like an idea
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:23 AM
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But it's just "nobody likes the idea of their partner being fucked by someone else" is it not? Straight women hate the idea of their male partners having had sex w other women, but they accept it because most men have a past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:17 AM
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And in other news - nature is cruel and about optimizing survival of good genes. Who would have thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:22 AM
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I've never criticized men for giving up, go ahead and do that if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:08 AM
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In the modern world men pay child support for children they take part in creating because women, just like in the rest of the animal kingdom, can otherwise (and do) leave a woman with a child and full responsibility when she didn't create it alone. In a modern society that doesn't work, and those who create children should be responsible for caring for them. I wouldn't say that makes women's lives SOOOOOO much easier, the best alternative would be that forced child support isn't needed because n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:04 AM
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I completely agree, and the point of my question is that as well - I can give my sympathies all day long, but what solution is actually offered that isn't based in forcing or encouraging women to settle for men they don't want? Sympathy is hard to give when every solution given here is a total lose for women, and when one of the very helpful things namely men developing more emotional, supportive friendships - is straight up rejected as stupid because it isn't equal to a romantic relationship. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:53 AM
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I've actually asked this question before, "how do we fix this issue of men being attracted to more women, while women are to attracted to fewer men", here in this forum one of the replies I got was to socially engineer women to broaden what they're attracted to. I can't talk about what happens outside of this forum, as this discussion held in this forum is what my original comment referred to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:44 AM
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Who am I defending myself against, the homestead men who want me to be alive to be pregnant with their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:26 PM
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Men also get help from the state? Men in poverty, men w illnesses, men with disabilities, men without jobs etc. Should they also not get help until they prove themselves worthy to you by finding a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:17 PM
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Aah yes, that will fix the issue of men feeling undesired and unwanted by their peers. "No woman wants you, but here you go dear, here's a robot that has no concept of attractiveness you can put your peepee in. Do you feel less lonely now?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:15 PM
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It is. And I strongly believe with the difference between how women engage with other women as a group vs how men engage w men as a group, that if all the men moved out of the cities the women would rather band together quite well and start dividing all the manual labor among themselves, than move out of the cities to bear and raise the children of angry men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:12 PM
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Exactly! Whoever sacrifices the most, has the highest risk and puts the most effort in the actual procreation, (and has the shortest fertile window) will ultimately be the choosiest with their mate. That makes sense for the whole animal kingdom, not just humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:04 PM
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I've never seen any effort to retrain men to be less physical though, so I'm not sure what you're referring to? I feel like it's a pretty commonly reiterated and accepted thing that "men are visual creatures". I know both me and women I know have been told to look past a man's looks to focus on his personality when dating, but I've never met a guy who has said he's been told to go for a woman he isn't attracted to because she might be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:35 PM
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This is the core of this subreddit, and the answer to your post title is "yes, you are right, being upset is an okay and acceptable way to feel about that". This sub deals with solutions to that problem though, which starts the conversation: "how do we fix this issue?", that very quickly and very often ends up in "how do we force women to "retrain" what they're attracted to or date men they're not attracted to so men won't be without romantic relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:55 PM
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This ranking system isn't valid in the real world, either I'm attracted to the person or not and the people I've been attracted to have all been very different. The main thing they had in common is they were from the same country as me and around my age. The attraction wasn't based on a list of qualities, but chemistry, vibe, if we laughed together and liked each other's looks. Stuff that isn't quantifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:07 AM
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I'd go as far as saying the women I know who have been treated the worst in their relationships are also the prettiest women I know...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:58 AM
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Except for the highly romantic things on this list I could do, and do do, all of these with my close female friends and often - and it gives me a ton of joy. I'd say even more than with a partner, if not just on the same level. What would make these activities for you more enjoyable doing them with a woman than with your close male friends? Except for the obvious "spending time with someone you're in love with is nice and knowing you might have sex after is a nice thought"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:57 AM
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Looool I didn't say women would never do that job, and I'm far from christian
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:41 AM
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No? I don't hang out with "modern men" who are bad people so I don't really have a lot of pet peeves. The men I know are great, and normal people. If there was one thing I wish was changed and that is a bit of a pet peeve is that men's friendships are very different than women's, and rather then creating space for more emotional bonding between men which would likely decrease feelings of loneliness and reliance on female partners for emotional support, a lot of men refuse to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:44 AM
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It is time we liberate male libido from the grips of normal women wanting serious. Enough damage has been done. Nope. How do you know the person doing the work is doing it because they love to do it and not because they're actually an addict, in a no choice situation or have a pimp/are being trafficked? How do you suggest those women then find a satisfying relationship when there's virtually no man (as it has been made abundantly clear on this forum) who would want to date a prostitute? Their se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:42 AM
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I've genuinely seen dudes roll their shorts up at the gym to the point of seeing outline of balls and I still don't care. I'm not looking there, I'm looking at myself in the mirror doing my workout. Those women are ridiculous because everyone should mind their business at the gym as long as their isn't literal cock and balls and vag out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:34 AM
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Everyone fucking chooses hot people jesus christ. Hot people are favored at work, thought of as nicer in random studies, seen as more successful, agreeable, everything by both men and women. Men stay with awful awful women because they're hot and will fuck them, and women stay with awful men because they're hot and will fulfill some of their needs. For a subreddit where men complain about needing to be the most desirable person to their partner, you lot sure complain about women wanting to be wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:30 AM
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I mean tons of people have had absolute shit lives and are still nice people...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:27 AM
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I’ve always done the approaching, I think that makes more sense honestly. Women clearly are more ”picky” than men, for good and bad so getting to choose completely is good, and I like choosing who I actually want rather than ”oh he likes me so I should give him a chance”. I’m not sure if OP thinks this will solve the issue of a lot of men supposedly not being chosen, as women still will choose men they’re attracted to in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:16 PM
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If first choice means ”the person he currently wishes to date” then yes, I want to be that. If first choice means an unrealistic ideal of a person that doesn’t exist, then no I don’t care if I’m that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:35 AM
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Exactly! Lots of people on this sub treat attraction (especially female attraction) as if we all have a list we check things off of and then go ”aaah 9/10 checked, that equals attracted”. No! ”I’m not feeling it and don’t care enough to do anything about it” or ”you’re just not hot to me” can apply to anyone regardless of looks. Either it’s the looks or the personality or something else not hot, why OP would be so keen t hear that though I don’t understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:26 PM
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don’t feel like it’s beneficial to me or him for me to also give him a list of insults on top of that. Exactly that, and if someone told me they didn’t wanna date me - unless they’re a close friend I really don’t need an additional reason. ”I don’t want to” is more than enough, I’m not gonna beg someone or expect someone to tell me what they think is wrong with me, that is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:22 PM
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Every woman I’ve met in real life is fine with coffee dates or prefers them, except for one woman who thought it was too low effort. Yet on instagram I hear the ”coffee dates are not dates” crowd screaming, so my conclusion is that I’ll keep listening to the women who don’t complain about coffee dates online lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:47 AM
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Disagree. Some women want a man who is assertive - being assertive =/= being mean, it just means the other person doesn't have to bother choosing and people are in general lazy so most people, men and women, do want someone else to choose. Lots of men also describe their ideal woman as someone who "knows what she wants and asks for it" aka assertiveness. Women's primary reasons for being attracted to men is looks and personality, same as men's reason for being attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:56 PM
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Yeah please. And for the women who do reply here, it's a lose lose situation every time. Say you like big dick and get told "at least you're honest about it"/get called shallow - say you dislike big dick and you get called a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:50 PM
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Or - the women here are different than the ones on female dating strategy, so their preferences are different, and you just love big dick so much that you can't imagine anyone feeling differently than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:47 PM
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I'm not a woman who claims size doesn't matter - I do think it matters. Too big hurts a lot and I'm sure too small has it's own issues. I will say though, that out of 8 experienced penises - three have included bad experiences. One of which was below average and couldn't get fully hard, two of which where above average and caused me to bleed all over my bed (one) and gave me intense pain to the point of having to end sex after 30 seconds (two). The five penises within an average span (5.8 inches…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:44 PM
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And yet here I am, telling you that a peepee that is too big makes for a worse sex life than an average penis because it causes pain, and that one of the solutions given is to use other stuff than penis. The thing is you're so set in your opinion of what all women want and all men with big dick are like (and how great and hot and tantalizing big dick is) that you regard even individual experiences ss lies, rather than opening your mind to the fact that some people's experiences and opinions do d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:52 PM
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Well, you're wrong. I thought you'd be delighted that men with large dicks are being told not to use them? Gives the average man less risk of being compared if the woman doesn't know what bigger is like lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:43 PM
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I didn't even tell you to feel bad for them lol, you claimed that no one tells men with too big dicks to just not use their dick, and I informed you that they in fact do say that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:37 PM
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This dude you're replying too will never be anything other than insecure lol, and no amount of comments will change how much he envies and thinks about huge cock. I get it though, as a girlfriend of a bd man it is not all sunshine and rainbows - it's a lot of pain :')
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:34 PM
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Hey again dude, you're gonna hate this but I have in fact asked r/bigdickproblems multiple times about what to do when the dick is too big and many if the suggestions have in fact been "use mouths/fingers instead and don't force penetration". Women still care about size, most of the comments say they care as long as it's not too small or too big.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:30 PM
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I didn’t say women pay more or less taxes then men - I said women pay taxes and they do. I didn’t spew misandry either, honestly the opposite - I’d almost consider it charity to the male species the amount of dick riding I’ve done during my years to obtain this degree!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:25 AM
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Exactly! Glad I dick hopped my way into a master's degree and a high-paying job! Thank you to all the other women paying taxes with money from their thanks-to-college high earning job, so I could get an education and hop from dick to dick
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:49 AM
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Sometimes I feel like saying that on this sub is like hate criming men, the way it gets perceived. In all other mammals and also birds the female chooses based on the best characteristics for a future offsprings survival as the female carries all the risk of reproduction. Best mating call/dance, size, patterns for blending in, strength, carefulness, ability to defend etc. Yet when women, a human animal, does the exact same as the rest of the animal kingdom it's "unfair and women should retrain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:45 AM
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Do you not see how many below average men are dating above average attractive women out in the world? Just out on the street? It can't be that all those dudes have a million dollars or massive dicks, most likely they have nice personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:36 PM
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The "average" when taken in a MASSIVE group doesn't say much about the individuals you're actually interacting with in daily life. I bet your sweet ass men have all kinds of preferences on a group-level, but when you ask about it in real life they schew from the average. And I'm not gonna tell them they're lying because that's not how an average works, that everyone gave the same answer and then go around and lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:35 PM
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Exactly, you can not win lol and thus, these posts are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:33 PM
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I'm pretty open about what I find attractive on here I'd say. I like a tall, muscular man but I've found many short, non muscular men equally attractive. I prefer a 5-6 inch, average cock. 7 is pushing it and 8 hurts. I've been unfortunate in that the person I've clicked the best with on every other plane has a big dick that hurts me, but luckily his other qualities make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:30 PM
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Not really? They've mostly been tall as fuck, huge muscles and cock, you know - average things/the only things I really care about as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:25 PM
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Yepp, just the other day I mentioned asking my female friends for sex advice on how to make sex better when it's extremely painful for me and rare/infrequent sex due to large size dick - and I got told I was bragging to my friends about my boyfriend's large penis. Seems like the issue isn't women wanting huge dick but some men not believing women can prefer average dick/those men themselves being obsessed with cock lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:22 PM
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So you're telling me if you're an introvert homebody you'd be happy dating an extroverted party girl who spends every weekend at the club? If you're a reserved private person you'd be fine dating a woman who posts about you on her social media constantly and talks about your arguements or fights or personal details and conversations with her friends? You'd be fine dating a woman who does drugs recreationally even if you yourself are sober, or an addict - as long as she's "nice" to you? Date a sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:03 PM
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And why are they doing it? :D supply and demand my friend. If porn-watchers enjoy more and more depraved porn, porn-makers (female and male actors, and mostly male directors) will continue to make depraved porn because it earns them money. Considering majority of men watch porn, majority of directors, distributors, creators of porn sites are men, and majority of women do not do porn, I'd definitely say it is an industry driven by men and the interests of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:08 AM
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But you can't know "the looks" until you try, as women like different looks, and can overlook "average looks" for someone who approaches in an interesting, or respectful or confident or whatever way. An average guy can increase attraction level by approaching in an intriguing way - just as a conventionally attractive guy can become unattractive if he approaches in a douchey, sleezy, boring or shitty way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:45 AM
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I didn't say women don't care at all though, I said we talked about it only when it was too big. I think women do care, they don't want a massive cock that hurts them or a tiny cock they can't feel at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:52 AM
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Yes, I've confided in my friends when sex was painful lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:27 AM
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Never talked about lack of size with any of my friends ever, but we have had two women talk about how their partners are too big and how to fix the issue of constant painful sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:17 AM
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I don’t think you’re wrong, I think miscommunication does happen - and that is absolutely unfortunate, men do deserve to just vent about their feelings. But let’s not pretend that this forum in particular doesn’t have multiple posts where this is absolutely presented as an issue women should fix. Where the comments are rife with men suggesting women retrain what they’re attracted to so men don’t have to be single and sexless, or that dating apps should be banned because women get too many option…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:36 AM
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I mean I have empathy for men wanting sex outside of relationships but what am I supposed to do except say ”yeah I feel for you, that sucks”? I completely understand if you’re just looking to vent and share your frustrations and someone comes and says ”just form emotional friendships bla bla bla” that is fucking annoying. But when this issue is treated as something women should fix - then what can we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:18 AM
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I see, I didn’t know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:10 AM
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No, it's told that men who are lonely and want a girlfriend to stop feeling lonely should invest time in making their platonic male friends more emotionally supportive instead of relying on only a girlfriend and sex to feel that. It's for sure true that men don't talk to their male friends about emotional issues or open up as much, and from being on reddit a lot so many men say that they just wouldn't share their feelings like that with other men - just with their wives or female friends. Men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:01 AM
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I'm guessing because most women when they want sex want it with someone they trust, who knows what they like or cares about finding out, cares about getting them off, where sex is an extension of and a way to show the love you feel for one another and enjoy eachothers bodies in a comfortable space? Aka a relationship. Being okay without sex when you're single is because the alternative is bad/mediocre sex that is risky, with someone you don't know and who there's no intimacy with. In a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:55 AM
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But I don't think women look at their boyfriends and think "oh man if he was only as hot as Henry Cavill"? I think women are turned on by moderately attractive men all the time, seeing as when you go outside there are moderately attractive men holding hands with both gorgeous, moderately and below average attractive women. I understand wanting to maximize their relationship success long term but I think if a woman gets to that point in life, she will in fact care less about looks and more about …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:15 AM
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Most women like having sex in a relationship, but most women don't care for sex outside of one I'd say. It's usually bad quality and high risk, but in a relationship it's something you obviously want with that person and you want them to want it to. The OP feels like a gotcha because so obviously people have different wants out of different situations... I don't care particularly about going to parties but if my friends don't invite me to theirs I'll be sad. I don't care for bad casual sex but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:37 PM
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You asked a question and I answered it honestly. What did you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:06 PM
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... Yeah anyway dude me and my man are watching "That time I got reincarnated as a slime" and playing magic the gathering lol. I agree with your point that women having "unrealistic standards" is more of an internet concept and it's stupid to whine about, but I think you chose the wrong example to explain men's "high standards", since nerdy men who play DnD and like anime frequently put themselves in situations where they can meet other people who also like those things, and many of them find th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:53 AM
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I mean I sure hope that men who do promote the liberation of women do so for their friends, sisters, wives, daughters etc. because they see them as people and want them to be equal to men. I sure want women and men both to have equal rights and opportunities, as well as responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:32 AM
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I didn't say that, I think women have very varied standards - some want someone rich, some don't care about education or money as long as the person isn't borderline homeless. Varying standards about physical looks etc, about life goal compatibility. I just said that men wouldn't entertain a woman he isn't physically to sexually attracted to and the idea that women should is then stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:18 AM
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I'm sorry, are we at the point where we fault women for not wanting to date a homeless man?? I am fairly certain that very few woman would date a man on the brink of homelessness, regardless of how hot he is. Not because of social status but because he is homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:34 AM
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I see what you mean but I don't see why women would want to train what they're attracted to, or how this solution even benefits them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:24 AM
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Unattractive = men I am not attracted to. I have dated men who look completely different from eachother though, short, tall, dark skin, light skin, arab, european, skinny, muscular, broke students, working men, glasses etc. They were all attractive to me but I can't give you a list of qualities that explains my attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:21 AM
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Okay sure but then men are getting a partner they find hot and women are not? I can't see how that's good for either the man or the women, and as has been made explicitly clear on this subreddit, men absolutely do not want their partner to settle for them or find other qualities about him what makes him a good sexual partner. It has to be physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:26 AM
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"Unwilling to consider a different perspective" well if dating unattractive men is the perspective then absolutely you're right, that will not be considered - as neither men nor women want to date people they're not attracted to. So again what is the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:23 AM
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This is always what I'm saying and what this sub fails to produce - what is the solution to the problem that men have a hard time dating? Women lower their standards and date men they find unattractive? No (also, men don't want to be settled for). Men become more picky and raise their standars, decreasing the options for women who then won't be able to be so picky? No, obviously not gonna happen, especially since men don't want to limit themselves more in dating. No one can give me a realistic s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:38 PM
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Where do people say that? Maybe it's from hanging here too much but I don't hear anyone say it's easy for men to get dates, only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:55 AM
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But if the men that these women seek, those that are objectively of higher dating value than she is, also pick those women - then clearly they must be of the same mate value? Since they both chose eachother? Otherwise the man would not settle, or the woman would not accept being settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:10 AM
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How do you promote the interests of your own sex, and what harmful effect does it have on people who don't deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:51 AM
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Literally, and men getting pissed that women "require all this stuff from men that they don't even provide themselves". I can't remember the last time I met a woman that didn't dress well, have nice hair and some level of conversational skill lol. These things are really not insane or unrealistic requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:42 AM
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What woman can't dress in a flattering way and hold an engaging conversation? I mean the things OP suggests to make oneself more attractive are not exactly rocket science. I can't name a woman in my social circle who doesn't dress well, have a good haircut and hygiene and has some level of self-reflection and conversational skill/optimism. Granted the men I know also do these things, and they're all in happy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:38 AM
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The guys on this forum would kill themselves at the sight of my 6'3, 220 lbs jacked game developer boyfriend who has turned his whole apartment into a shrine for his manga, pokemon and anime figurine collections, makes an average salary and is far from a loser lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:33 AM
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Okay but how do you know?? How do you knoooooow
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:53 AM
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So if women are honest you're still not gonna believe them unless the things they say fit your idea of what women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:27 AM
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So should or shouldn't women be honest about what attracts them? To get other traits to rise. And if we should, then taking into consideration that women are in fact not a monolith and do have different preferences (and not all do consider a 6'3 220 lbs muscled man in finance with massive confidence, huge dick, lots of money etc etc. the end-all-be-all when it comes to finding a partner) - how do we convey this when we are accused of lying whenever our type strays from this ideal that's been sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:55 AM
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If she was taught that looks don't matter as long as she's a good cook then yeah I'd see why she'd be pissed. But if she herself values looks and attraction I'd be slightly confused as to why she thought the other sex wasn't at all similar in that regard. But I see your point. So if we all start being honest about women also valuing physical attraction and good looks, do you think this community will vanish? Will men then be happier being single, or will this truth that women also want only attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:54 AM
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So then it is true? Looks do matter and a woman has to be attractive for a man to want to date her, men just have less problem finding women that are physically attractive to them. I agree the problem is that women in general find fewer men attractive than the amount of women men find attractive but I don't really see a satisfying, realistic solution to this problem. We have the nature aspect: men are fertile almost constantly for a large portion of their lives and carry no bodily burden in rega…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:11 AM
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I don't think it's shallow at all to base attraction mostly on physical traits and I can almost guarantee you no man will date a woman he is not physically atracted to, even though he will miss out on a bunch of great people. Being attracted to who you're dating is pretty much bare minimum for men and women both. I completely understand men feeling lied to though, this perpetuated idea that women care more about personality than anything is dangerous for both men and women. Men and women equally…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:38 AM
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But looks also determine if women are dated? Men don't date women they find ugly, never have and never will. As a society though we're just honest about it meanwhile we've made up this lie that women are fine dating ugly men as long as they're nice or confident or successful or whatever. We're not! We should start being honest about it - both men and women want to date people they're physically attracted to, and that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:20 AM
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This is pretty much my exact reasoning! Now I'm also in a monogamous relationship but if I wasn't and on some off chance I clicked better with a guy who's trans than with any cis guy I've met before - and the dick wasn't an issue, I would be open to dating him. But I wouldn't seek it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:09 AM
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Okay and they do and that is the end of discussion then?? If that's your point there's really no debate because there's nothing to change your view on? "Women who decide not to terminate their pregnancy in spite of the father being uninvolved should have to live with the consequences of their decision." Yeah? And they do? Every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:00 AM
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Why isn't the only issue here that the men are not actively involed with the child they contributed to making? Women having abortions is already a topic of debate today which many see as unacceptable - why would the exemption be that it is allowed if only to let uninvolved fathers off the hook? If anything the fact that the woman is not allowed an abortion should be incentive for the man to be an active part in the childs life? Abortion is always always always argued against as it is "selfish" t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:58 AM
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I didn't change my words lol I still mean what I said. Maybe you're right and "women seem to be okay when they're single" is how I should have phrased it tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:47 AM
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The women who happen to be single seem to be okay being single, not that women actively avoid relationships because being single is so superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:57 AM
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Why is it an unpleasant side? The people who have the more options will be more picky - men are less picky in who they date so women in turn can afford to choose. If it was the other way around men would be able to be more picky. You will never see a man dating a woman he finds physically unattractive, but it's not considered an "unpleasant side of male nature" that men don't give physically unattractive women a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:25 AM
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I have to ask - let's say womens inability to date down is the reason men have a hard time getting dates and being desired. What is the solution to this problem? What is a realistic solution to this problem? For women to collectively decide to date men they are less attracted to to lower their standards? For men to collectively improve to meet womens standards? To force women to date down even though they don't want to? Like what do we do here to fix this issue? It seems like women in general ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:23 AM
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Exactly, and seeing as both men and women want sex with people they find attractive in some way I don’t need that explicitly stated, it’s just mentally added when people say what they like as it is a minimum. Not necessarily hugely conventionally attractive, just that they like what they look like. If a man tells me he likes the women he sleeps with to be for example assertive and clear about what she wants, and that’s a turn on, I assume we’ve already passed the threshold of physical attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:18 AM
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Right? I'm still in university and honestly maybe that's why I find these discussions hard to relate to - the men and women around me equally value hotness when they're looking for a partner! And no one thinks badly of them for it. If anything I'd actually say that women who have rejected men based on looks get more flack for it, and hear things like "well maybe attraction will grow with time! He might have a great personality, or other good qualities" - yet I've never heard of a guy being told …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:43 PM
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Who said that??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:20 PM
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Aaah I see hahah. I've never been one to lie and say "looks don't matter", and my friends aa far as I know all agree that a guy being attractive is a minimum requirement - but I do think that the narrative that has been popularized that women just don't care as long as you're "nice and funny' is really harmful to both men and women. I however don't think it's shallow to want a partner you're attracted to or to have standards for who you date. If it's shallow to have standards I kinda wish men we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:17 PM
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Well maybe, in a lot of cases they are ugly too though and the women still stay. But don't you think "mean bitches" also have some allure that makes the men stay with them in spite of them being mean or abusive? Like physical attractiveness, good sex etc. Or is it just "she's a woman, he's a mindless drone who has to love her because she's a woman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:03 PM
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It does feel physically better for a lot of women, as it does for men - but yeah it's also just biologoy and horny hormones that makes it so alluring. Doesn't excuse not using proper contraception on both parties tho when the risk is as catastrophic as unwanted pregnancy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:58 PM
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Oh I thought you meant general love from society, like friends, coworkers, families etc. I mean yeah, but nasty abusive men also get love all the time from women. I'm assuming these mean men and women earn their love in other ways people find desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:56 PM
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What characteristics do women posess that make people inherently love them that men don't have? Don't women also have to earn love by being nice, not angry, being social, including, pretty, agreeable etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:45 PM
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I've only had sex in committed relationships though and am in a relationship with someone who I can build a life with. I am not interested in giving up that relationship for someone "better", more educated or successful, rich, attractive or whatever merit you measure your men by. He is the most wonderful man I've ever met, yet he's not the richest or most educated man I've met. I'm asking you how men increasing their standards for the women they date and truly considering what they want out of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:49 PM
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It's cool how men and women really aren't as different as we're made out to be. In the end, we all wanna be attracted to our partners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:37 PM
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"Uhh it's so annoying. Here I go, delivering my best knock knock joke - and still! Her panties are still on!" Yeah for someone to want sex with you they have to be attracted to you, no shit. 95% of cases that means physical attraction in looks, or in 5% an insane amount of confident body language/good vibes/humour all the rest of that stuff and also not being ugly. No man has slept with a woman he found unattractive because she was nice or made him laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:35 PM
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I don't think it would harm me as a woman, no. I've always been the one to go after the men I've found attractive and have in majority of cases made the first moves. I have rarely been asked out on dates or approached first and yet I've been dating actively my whole adult life. I don't see how if men increased their standards this would harm me personally - how do you think it would?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:24 PM
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So tell the other men to increase their standards and not be so thirsty for all the women? That way women can't afford to be picky and it won't be as competitive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:13 PM
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You could be the average person but that's not enough for the average women. This take can be seen from both the "women are too picky and always go for the absolute top guys, missing a bunch of nice ones" perspective, or the "men are too desperate and have no standards, going for any woman they can" perspective. The fact of the matter is men want women more than women want men. I'd say it's largely due to biology, but it is what it is. Women also want men they're attracted to - maybe they have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:04 PM
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So what you want to hear is that women want to date pople they find attractive? Okay, here you go: women want to date people they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:57 PM
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This is what gets me, because I have not yet met a woman who would describe her relationship as "nothing special" - unless she's about a day away from breaking up with him. Maybe men are in these relationships and don't consider that leaving is a very reasonable, and conpletely possible thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:00 AM
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