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| 0 | TERFs and men | social issues | Redpants_McBoatshoe | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 02:37 AM |
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| 5 | Survivors say Russia is waging a war of sexual violence in occupied areas of Ukraine. Men are often the victimsLol, it's a source of income for the brass just like other forms of corruption. I don't care about Putin that much, individuals come and go. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/24 11:14 AM |
| 6 | Survivors say Russia is waging a war of sexual violence in occupied areas of Ukraine. Men are often the victimshttps://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21042968-dedovshchina-v-rossiiskoi-armii-2019 Report from the Russian prosecutor-general's office about rape, forced prostitution etc. in the Russian armed forces, maybe you'll find it easier to swallow. And it's from 2019. You can have a someone who speaks Russian read it or take screenshots and translate on https://translate.yandex.com/en/ocr But you can't copypaste into google translate because it turns into random Latin characters instead of Cyrillic f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/24 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Survivors say Russia is waging a war of sexual violence in occupied areas of Ukraine. Men are often the victims.It's not surprising that they'd weaponize sexual violence against their enemy when there's a major rape and forced prostitution problem within the Russian army too | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/24 08:36 AM |
| 1 | i'm not the only one who's noticeda seeming fetishization of 'transmasculinity' as a 'softer' altenative to standard masculinity?the underlying implicit notion that transmasculinity or transfemininity are separate from cismasculinity or cisfemininity Well what is masculinity in the first place? It's so vague. I guess here it means stereotypically male traits, for better or worse: courage, violence and so on. Or maybe just the positive ones in this case. And when people favor them in trans men, that might be because they think trans men and women need more of those qualities and cis men have an overabundance of them. And I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/12/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Toward a ‘Gender Transition Movement’ (GTM)It's impossible to make everyone completely free, because their freedoms contradict each other. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/09/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?Sure, terms have multiple meanings in different contexts. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?You didn't say, but the people who use these terms are saying who should compete. So they need to use terms that reflect what they're trying to say, right? What does being raised as a boy have to do with this? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 02:35 AM |
| 0 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?That's literally what I've been telling you. They think sex and gender are different concepts. They believe sex is material and gender is a construct. The statement you quoted separates them. Simply put, they're opposed to the two being separate concepts. This is the opposite of what it says right there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?I guess you're saying that AMAB is better because it includes intersex people who should'nt compete with women because they're too masculine? But I think that's problematic. That's different from just saying that males should'nt, it's a harder line to draw and you can't demand that other people ignore that complexity. Plus many people don't like the lable AMAB either. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?Gender critical feminism was branded as that because it's critical of the mainstream theory of gender. That's the concept. I know we're here to talk about these things, and people do, but I'm saying you've got a blind spot when it comes to gender in the context of transgenderedness (not that TERFs don't have them too!). So when I talk about gender critical analys for example, I mean critical of feminist notions of gender. Compare it to critical race theory for example, where the goal is to under… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?"AMAB" encompasses both male and intersex people that have more male sex characteristics than female. Yes "Biological male" is a meaningless term, since most of the time it means something about chromosomes Well on reddit for example it's usually about chromosomes, lol. But just because many people use a term poorly doesn't make it useless. Biology is much more than just chromosomes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 01:51 AM |
| -3 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?I'm gender fluid personally. I'm not trying to turn you against trans people. And I don't know, what term would you suggest instead of gender critical? TERFs generally see sex and gender as the same thing No, they generally see sex as the physical sex of the body, and gender as social norms and personal preferences like liking pink or whatever. rejecting the idea that trans people need to transition away from their assigned gender at birth. Sort of, but they'd also reject the idea that people ar… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?Maybe in other contexts, but not talking about sports. I mean, the act of being assigned as male isn't what gives them an advantsge, it's the biological maleness. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 01:13 AM |
| -6 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?Right, radical feminism is less idealist and recognizes sex as a material condition in our lives. Of course libfems do that too in different ways, but their theory is lacking. But are you saying terfs don't separate sex and gender? And don't you think men are affected by gender norms and so on? Isn't that something male advocates ought to examine critically? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/22 01:08 AM |
| -5 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?It's foolish from a men's rights perspective to dismiss TERF's as nothing but transphobes. They have a better understanding of sex than liberal feminists, because they have the theory to separate sex and gender. And I guess that makes them more dangerous from a male right's perspective, I mean more efficient. So I understand why you would view them unfavorably. But male advocacy needs a gender critical approach just as much as feminism does. Otherwise your movement will be nothing more than a ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:36 PM |
| -1 | Thoughts on TERFs and the general reaction to them?But you agree with them that trans women are biological men? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 11:18 PM |
| 6 | Not to take away from the other issues but…Who has claimed that NATO as a defensive alliance had to bomb Belgrade? And just because Russia and China happen to be barbaric and murderous doesn't mean every country opposing the US is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Why banning men from leaving Ukraine violates their human rightsWhat do you think about putting them in logistics roles away from the front line, for example? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Why banning men from leaving Ukraine violates their human rightsSo the solution is to include them in the system somehow so they pull their weight. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 09:18 AM |
| 2 | Jordan Peterson 5 years laterI do think he has mischaracterized C-16, for what it's worth. I just don't think he mischaracterized it very badly. He does say ridiculous things sometimes, like that the climate doesn't exist. Very postmodern deconstruction of climate as a concept, lol. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/22 04:50 PM |
| 4 | Jordan Peterson 5 years laterBut you took that quote out of context: In the Criminal Code, which does not reference pronouns, Cossman says misusing pronouns alone would not constitute a criminal act. “The misuse of gender pronouns, without more, cannot rise to the level of a crime,” she says. “It cannot rise to the level of advocating genocide, inciting hatred, hate speech or hate crimes … (it) simply cannot meet the threshold.” It's important to realize that the Criminal Code is not the whole of Canadian law. There are oth… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/22 04:29 PM |
| 10 | Jordan Peterson 5 years laterI just read it, where did it say that? Cossman in the article said that the criminal code could not put someone in jail just for using wrong pronouns, but the human rights act might. And C-16 applied to both. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/22 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Jordan Peterson 5 years laterIt doesn't really matter whether it is a thing or not, when some people want it to be a thing and some don't. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/22 12:01 PM |
| 4 | Jordan Peterson 5 years laterDo you think it's reasonable to describe them as cultural Marxism though? I agree that cultural Marxism as a term gets abused a lot. A lot of postmodernism is actually very un-Marxist. But the idea of Marxist cultural analysis for example makes sense. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/22 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Paper: Even in Sweden low education and income negatively affect men's ability to have children but not women's. This can be explained by sexual exchange theory that describes heterosexual partner selection with economic market factors. Sex is a female resource, created by a supply-demand imbalance.I just think their assessment of how justified the man's disappointment is would be based on how reasonable they think his attempt was. And they'd probably put themselves in the shoes of the woman. I don't know which one they feel less sympathy for. But then you would observe the same in the expensive condition, wouldn't you? I don't know if you could observe it without a case with an even more expensive gift to compare to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/22 06:37 PM |
| 3 | Paper: Even in Sweden low education and income negatively affect men's ability to have children but not women's. This can be explained by sexual exchange theory that describes heterosexual partner selection with economic market factors. Sex is a female resource, created by a supply-demand imbalance.5 euros is simply a very small sum for the average Swede. So evolutionarily you could compare it to a male bird trying to woo a female bird by giving her just the leg of a centipede or something. Maybe spending energy on such small amounts of food would actually be a net waste and a sign of the bird being an idiot or, I dunno, dysfunctional in some way. What I'm trying to say is that the paper only took a shallow glance at how evolutionary psychology could explain the second experiment results. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | A theory I have on why male virgins are mocked but not female virginsWell we are weird apes, tbh | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/21 05:11 PM |
| 5 | The Erasure of Feminine MenYeah, we should stop conflating the economic left with progressive liberalism | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/21 11:47 PM |
| 9 | Anti-male, anti-working class, and anti-middle class conspiracy being pushed on society by the powers that be down.The illusion is made complete through the creation of a pseudoscience, the modern superstructure tool since religion has come out of style. Gender Theory works outside the realm of regular academia, but has all the trappings of it, and is quickly infecting it. Many liberals and leftists either fail to recognize this, fear being stigmatized as conspiracy theorists or reactionaries if they speak about it, or are just intimidated by those academic trappings. Then there's a strong backlash against t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/11/21 04:24 AM |
| 23 | Progressive Feminism and Conservative Traditionalism are two sides of the same coin when it comes to their views of male behaviour.It's a very ancient theme. Enkidu in the Epic of Gilgamesh is a wild man who becomes civilized by this temple prostitute called Shamhat through sex, basically. Later he curses her because it led to him being trapped in the underworld, but then is convinced to change his mind and he says that all men will desire her and shower her with gifts. And civilization is feminine in a way, because that taming can only happen through a social contract. It's more beneficial for women than men, to some degre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | TERFs and menThis sub doesn't have any hate speech on it as far as I've seen, but on r/AgainstHateSubreddits they're still saying it's an alt-right scam. Because just talking about male advocacy makes it part of an incel/MRA ecosystem or whatever, I don't know. But it's not the same, right? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 04:58 AM |
| 0 | TERFs and menThey're just biased I guess. IMO the problem isn't thinking that patriarchy is rooted in biology, the problem is that patriarchy is just one model of gender relations and doesn't show the whole picture. And also people aren't only subjects in a social framework or products of evolution, on top of that they are conscious beings who react to biology and society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 04:40 AM |
| 0 | TERFs and menBe open-minded about gender, that whole project isn't finished yet | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 03:43 AM |
| 2 | If feminists were consistent with the idea that feminists just want equality and anyone who doesn't isn't a true feminist, then they wouldn't entertain the idea of TERFS.I agree with your take, except I don't think gender critical necessarily implies gender abolitionist. I mean you could argue that people need some kind of gendered thinking in order to process their existence where there are bodies of different sex, unless gender just means the unnecessary and harmful part of it that can be thrown out. And personally I think people will want to have gendered things in the future too, just as an extra layer of expression. Like I'm not saying they should or should… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/21 06:49 PM |
| 2 | If feminists were consistent with the idea that feminists just want equality and anyone who doesn't isn't a true feminist, then they wouldn't entertain the idea of TERFS.gender critical theories are the idea that because of people's assigned sexes at birth they can never truly be the gender they identify as no matter what. That's not really accurate. Gender criticals question the whole idea of gender, or at least the mainstream liberal feminist theories of gender as well as traditional conservative views on gender. But they do emphasize sex instead of gender identity. I'm just saying, if you're actually critical of gender and not just conservative or whatever, t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/21 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Rebutting "men need to learn how to be emotional with other men!" and the likeThanks, and I'm replying late too but I want to say I'm encouraged by the reception I get on this sub. Men's questions are super polarized between left and right, with both the liberal left and the conservative right being hyperfocused on a certain type of cultural gender war. And it always made me suspicious of the left, even though I'm very open to leftist thought. It's honestly refreshing to see a leftist sub centering male perspectives and I think in the future a men's movement will gain mor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/21 12:28 PM |
| 39 | Rebutting "men need to learn how to be emotional with other men!" and the likeThere's a traditional masculinity that men are now often encouraged to break, by showing their emotions for example, but then there are also expectations for how a man should do that and what he should express and where it should ultimately take him, what kind of new man he should become. But really it has to happen on your own terms, right? Otherwise you're just performing a different code of masculinity that potentially is just as stifling as the old one or even more so. And it can be very pow… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/21 11:04 AM |
| 46 | Iceland (supermarket) advert exemplifies how men are casually vilified in the mediaThe casual attitude towards violence against men is really jarring when you start noticing it. I was listening to a fairly mainstream podcast for example, and the female hosts joked about wanting to punch a man they didn't like in the face or something like that. Would have shocked me if it was men talking about a woman. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/21 02:37 PM |
| 5 | let's join the call to get rid of misandrist powermods.It's not necessary to focus so much on forcing admins to do something. That's like the best possibly outcome in this case, I guess. But I don't think activism works like that. It's more important to keep pushing your own narrative so the dominant one doesn't go unchallenged. And then when the time is right, something may actually happen. But it's absolutely a thankless job to do. Of course if a subreddit or reddit as a whole completely censors you, then move on to spend your time on something el… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/08/21 11:24 AM |
| 19 | Been wondering if I would have been happier being born as a female.I really don't see how this is misandry at all. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/21 09:31 AM |
| 3 | My sexuality isn't yours to play with - rant about objectification of gay men.Thank you for posting this, I had never heard of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/21 09:29 PM |
| 0 | My sexuality isn't yours to play with - rant about objectification of gay men.Why have a word to specify being this interest? Why can't they think it's hot like straight men do for lesbians? Why do straight women feel the need to have a word, yet straight men don't? Why not? Nothing preventing straight men from creating a word like that, except maybe for sexism. authoresses also say it's because m/m relationships are more equal when it comes to gender roles, and same-sex romances are superior to opposite-sex ones because of this. They would rather write m/m then write m/f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/21 09:23 PM |
| 3 | My sexuality isn't yours to play with - rant about objectification of gay men.If we are living, truly living, we will sometimes be uncomfortable, and we will sometimes make others uncomfortable. There is more to life than the elimination action of discomfort. That's true, but eliminating discomfort is also part of life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/21 09:00 PM |
| 14 | What's the truth about hypergamy? I absolutely hate it.This is some kind of meme definition of hypergamy. Hypergamy isn't the same as promiscuity or cheating, it simply means selecting a partner who in some way has higher status than yourself. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/21 11:20 AM |
| 2 | No more gatekeeping men's mental healthThis really is such an egregious example of victim blaming and gaslighting, I can't think of any other like it in liberal society. Obviously there's conservative religious groups that treat women like this and worse, but still. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/21 08:42 AM |
| 2 | Why I am not a Feminist.Are you saying women's and men's rights aren't incompatible? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/21 08:05 PM |
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