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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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7	Men ignore conventionally unattractive women (they aren't even on their radar), so they assume that all women are privileged in dating I mean lying, playing games to get sex, emotionally manipulating women to sleep with them, making promises they know they won't keep. You know, what you lot call 'game'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 03:22 PM
15	Men ignore conventionally unattractive women (they aren't even on their radar), so they assume that all women are privileged in dating And rightly so. You all know they are at much highest risk of being used by men. So what's the surprise?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 11:37 AM
7	Q4W: Have you ever "calmed down" or become less sexual as you got older? Mine has increased over the years. I'm in my early 30s and have been married for 10 years. The biggest spike was after I stopped breastfeeding my baby at age 32. Women's hormones fluctuate a lot during their life and quite randomely. Only ever had 2 long-term relationships, including my marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 06:04 PM
0	What do you agree with the "other side" on? No, it's literally the result of men basing their entire lives on how much sex they get. Women don't operate like that. You're ignoring many factors that contribute to the loneliness epidemic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 08:05 PM
0	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Entice? No one needs to entice men into relationships, they've invented marriage, and this sub is proof men are actively pursuing long term relationships, and suffering from not attaining them. Because they know they benefit from it, despite having to give up their polygamous nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 10:10 PM
0	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? It is. It's the only reason marriage was created. That's what men as a group gain from partaking in that institution. In exchange, they promise monogamy (which they often fail at anyway), protection and investing in their children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 10:08 PM
0	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Wah Wah Wah. Your brains are fried on porn so you think every young woman is 'getting railed' in her 20s. Married people have the most sex, and the most adventurous types of sex, on average. You lot need to broaden your minds and get out of your eccho chamber.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 10:03 PM
1	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? No, the definition of mysoginist is one who discriminates against women. It'll usually be when they make a comment about a woman being a '304' etc. If it bothers you what silly people say onlime then fight toxic internet trends. The 'feminists' who conflate all nerds/mysoginists/whoever, but also the men sexually humiliating women for having sex, or degrading women who choose not have kids/still single at 30 by calling her expired, wall hitter and much more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 09:56 PM
1	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Unless you're defending both then he'll want a lawyer too. Women end up poorer after divorce, a lot of their unpaid labour goes un-acknowledged. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 01:39 PM
1	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Lol, said by a man who's job is to defend men. Adultery by men is a known major reason for divorce. Men resist because they don't want to loose access to their kids and pay alimony etc etc. All well known.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 01:30 PM
1	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? ' Approx 1% of men are this useless' You're just continuously ignoring my arguments, ok. 'Woman moment.' Well, yes. They are who you're discussing after all, are they not? You just completely ignored by argument, again. It's no use continuing discussing because you're not addressing my counterpoints. If you want to vent, then I'll listen. You can DM even. But it's no longer a debate. Side note: I looked at your comment history and sounds like you might be from India - if that's the case, the deb…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 11:38 AM
2	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Same could be said about you, any attempt to get a woman was for your own sake. That argument is mute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 11:34 AM
1	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? How can you not see the work that the left has put into helping men expressing themselves emotionally? 'don't feel safe coming forward with their experiences of being raped or assaulted, and for some fucked up reason feminism doesn't see any of this as a problem' How are you ignoring that Meetoo was also about men, and male rape gets talked about by feminists all the time? Not feeling safe approaching women because of fear of rejection is not comparable to the natural fear of rape that women hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 12:50 AM
3	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? A companion/friend to share their life with, a father for their kids, love, emotional fulfillment, a breadwinner or co-contributor to household finances, (usually) satisfying sex, (sometimes) a handyman/house builder/etc. I'm sure this is common knowledge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 12:34 AM
2	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Part 2 of my answer, because the other one is already silly long: ' As much as I used to be concerned about eho I would be when I met her I bet she never even gave a second thought to who she should try to be for the sake of the person she would get married to.' So are you not aware that women spend ridiculous amounts of time and money to engage in almost constant performative femininity, going to therapy to solve relationship/emotional issues, people pleasing, all to ensure they meet men's expe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/24 12:05 AM
2	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? We've debated on another thread recently. Yes, when I've seen it used as an insult, the man deserved an insult. No, I don't condone it. ' Shame society has spent the last few decades stripping men of self respect and dignity,' Just say you're against women feeling safe and respected, it's less embarrassing than whatever you wrote.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 09:57 PM
2	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Alright, Mr pedantic. ' If women were so against being ridiculed by men for their sexual promiscuity, why do the same for those men?' It's called retaliation. 'You also mentioned men who were using sex with women as a value system. Wouldn’t these men, not be incels by definition?' No, a lot of incels who are chronically online absolutely subscribe to the sex value system, hence why they hate promiscuous women and women who don't choose them. The men who boast about sleeping around also subscribe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 09:48 PM
0	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? No, I even only see it used as an insult after a man has specifically degraded a woman for being promiscuous, or for just existing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 08:58 PM
0	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? The most vulnerable men are most definitely not virgin men or incels. You've tied up sexual experience to self-worth. Women get sexually humiliated since the dawn of humanity, and online it's happened since the inception of the Internet. Men commonly bond over sexually ridiculing women. Society's insults towards women are entirely based on being promiscuous (slut, whore, bitch, 304, etc). Despite this, women will still sleep with men. In a man-made value system where men take value from women th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 08:31 PM
0	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Sure, if you're in a toxic relationship. But many men would settle for a bad relationship so they don't grow old alone. They will likely still have a more functional home life, social life, probably benefit from emotional support that he wouldn't get otherwise, live with his kids, etc. Married men also have more sex (and more adventurous sex) then unmarried men, despite how much 'deadbedrooms' scare everyone over here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 08:16 PM
2	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? I was specifically alluding to men who cheat or are in very toxic marriages refusing to leave the relationship. They refuse to leave because they benefit immensely from having a woman taking care of their home, family life, kids, having a loyal woman in their bed every night. Many women, on the other hand, realize when a marriage is draining them, when they're burning out, or that they don't have to put up with being cheated on, so they naturally want to leave because they know they're happier a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 08:06 PM
5	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? In liberal/left leaning spaces, the word incel/virgin is used as an insult usually when a man has shown to be a mysoginist. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I understand that it's simpler to aim where it hurts. It's ridiculous to give that much importance to something that personal - you'd be unlikely to find a decent person in the wild randomly shaming a man for being a virgin or single. A little dignity and self-respect goes a long way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 07:57 PM
4	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? 'Would any woman belive that I was choosing her? Would you? Yes, because I'm a romantic at heart (despite being a radfem), but it sounds like you yourself would be settling because it's the best you could get. ' Women dont look at virgin men kindly, because they lack the power to live their sexual lives honestly.' I did in fact marry someone who told me from the get go he was dating to marry, didn't buy into hookup culture, and was a virgin. Having similar values (irrespective of whether you hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 07:44 PM
-2	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Women are still being bangmaids, the difference is they now do it while wearing a t-shirt that says 'The future is female!'. Why do you think burnout is so common in married women with kids, who also work? I'm pointing out that men benefit immensely from having a woman in their house. So you're not giving up any power, you are settling down with someone who'll likely make your life better. Men are known for not wanting to leave marriages/LTRs, after all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 07:05 PM
9	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? The majority of women don't do that. You're brainwashed by hearing that lie enough times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 06:05 PM
-4	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? This is the saddest reply on here. The way you rely on sex for self-worth, just sad. I guess it's what promiscuous women do as well. Weird that you consider settling as a way to give up power, rather than all the benefits men get by getting one bangmaid to look after their house and kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 06:02 PM
8	What do you agree with the "other side" on? RP and BP theories only apply to shallow women looking for hookups. If we only consider that pool of women, then you're probably right. I'm not sympathetic to your cause though. Agree with the advice given to virgin/inexperienced men/incels that they should foccus on improving their life, friends, value their dignity etc. Their perceived low value is a product of patriarchal glorification of the alpha male/'Chad'. I know the Manosphere loves the sexual value system, but I feel there's an underly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 03:53 PM
-1	Why do some women behave to attract sexual attention from men and lie about it? A simple answer is the celebrity effect. They want to be able to strut around like your average barely dressed female celebrity, who is gawked at and admired, but has a team of bodyguards preventing men from approaching them. It's 100% delusion, based on having very low self worth. I say this as a rad fem. I'm not defending male behaviour or taking the side of the men slut shaming just because they get rejected, just to be clear. If it bothers men, they can stop giving those women attention. But…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 08:05 AM
12	Why do some women behave to attract sexual attention from men and lie about it? What is sad is that the above is not obvious to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 08:01 AM
-1	What age are you willing to date? In your relationship what is the age gap? The line has to do with the prefrontal cortex maturing up until age 25, as well as imbalance of power in certain couples where the younger person is vulnerable for some reason or another. Gen Z is more infantilized than older gens, so grown men past 25 wanting to be with someone who acts like a child is bizarre. Surely you know this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 09:43 PM
1	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be 'And therefore any woman using incel as an insult is reinforcing the patriarchy and enabling slut shaming' Yes. When I see liberal feminists or the left throwing insults at men, it's done in the same vein that women have historically been shamed/insulted. Two wrongs don't make a right but I understand it. Aim where it hurts. However, I have never seen anti-man content in the level that I see mysoginist content. 'Do you see the double standard?' I disagree, everytime I see incel used as an insult…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 02:08 PM
1	Red pills only feed the system they oppose, making it harder for the average man Yup. You can tell what the average emotional intelligence and self-awareness levels are on here. Porn and hookup culture does propel a lot of this, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 09:21 AM
1	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be 'so women are not owed drinks, attention, or commitment either.' You're focussing on a group of immature women who might feel entitled to it because they're young and pretty. The majority don't. If you ask politely 'shall we split the bill 50:50?' you're unlikely to offend any women (this is different in cultures such as the Middle East, etc). Many western women are giving up on dating and have their own job, so why would they need a man to provide? The insult' virgin' or 'incel' is used by wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 08:45 AM
1	"Game" is just dilluted PUA. One is derived from the other. And its all gambling addiction motivated by lack of sexual success It's hilarious that your comment got downvoted, it shows the type of delusional audience in here. Your words fall onto deaf ears, it's not what they want to hear. Women must be blamed at all times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 09:24 PM
1	"Game" is just dilluted PUA. One is derived from the other. And its all gambling addiction motivated by lack of sexual success Very well put. I always find it funny when I read 'I'm done with women'. You're not, you're still dependent on women if you haven't given up watching pornography featuring women's bodies and voices to help you masturbate. And even more so if you ever pay for sex. (I do disagree with OP's definition of Incel. Technically, you can be the most leftie woke feminist and still be an incel looking for a woman. Edit: I don't use the word 'incel' as an insult, just a clearer term as opposed to 'single', …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 09:17 PM
1	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be 'then the public perception is that those men are incels and women don't owe them sex.' Also, women absolutely do not owe anyone sex. And there's nothing wrong with incels. Men see value in sleeping with as many women as possible, putting pressure on each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 07:19 PM
1	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be You've never been pregnant or raped and it shows. In the case of rape accusations, it's his word against hers. Hence, nothing is likely to happen to rapists as it's virtually impossible to prove it happened. You conveniently forget men get raped too. I'd much rather risk a date using me for a free meal than risk being impregnated and then abandoned or cheated on. Being pregnant is the most vulnerable state a healthy woman/girl can be in. Again, you conveniently ignore all the men that live with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 07:15 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history My assumption about your preferences came from your statement that women are shallow, which can be said for those with lower standards/short term mating strategy. Based on your reply, my point still stands. Those men who swooped in showed an interest, and that increases desirability because, in our primal brain, it means he is more likely to invest in fatherhood. We'll ignore or be genuinely unaware of abusive red flags. I've seen that happen around me as well, the man who shows interest is alwa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:50 AM
1	Feminists dehumanize men and it's time we admit it Did you read my first point and are you aware men are victims of rape too? You want women quiet and to enable rapists to get away, that's all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:30 AM
1	Feminists dehumanize men and it's time we admit it So you'll just ignore the fact that rape is visually impossible to prove. After, all it's his word against his victim's. Most rapes never even end up in a sentence. Your agenda is dangerous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:15 AM
1	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be So we're going to ignore that one is women actually being lied to and used for sex, which is a risky act for women (abortion, pregnancy complications death, social shaming etc) with the act of being rejected by a woman? I'm not defending women's dumb choices, but it's ridiculous to compare the situations even then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:13 AM
1	Feminists dehumanize men and it's time we admit it 1) MeeToo supports male rape victims and helps to break the taboo for them, so you can come forward when you're abused. 2) Men rape women more than any other combination, and women have historically been socially pressured to keep quiet about it because it's their own fault for being attacked. If you're scared of false accusations, then foccus on what drives anyone to do that (like woman have to find ways to 'prevent' rape). But the fact you're instead attacking a movement that has helped millio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 08:08 AM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Most young women don't take initiative because there's an element of fear of being used and unsafety/rape - we know instinctively men have much lower standards and are unlikely to decline sex when offered it for free (i.e. men are less likely to reject advances even if they're not overtly sexual). In the wild, it makes no sense for women non-promiscuous (K mating strategy) to make advances just to get impregnated and then abandoned. Hence, men have to show a little interest. You are, of course, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 07:59 AM
2	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Thanks for the discussion and for keeping an open mind. I prefer to enter the debates when there's more civil language and actual science, rather than pseudoscience. I also bring the perspective from academic feminists who have thought this through as well and actually understand women's true motives. My personal interest in the current modern dating crisis also stems from this deeply affecting one of my close male friends (in his late 30s) and is getting more and more brainwashed, as well as ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 08:28 AM
1	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? I was just having an interesting discussion with another Reddit user about the evolution of mating strategies. I've read a number of theories, and the onset of monogamy coincides with the invention of agriculture and weapons, and it makes sense that female jealousy is one of the main biological driving forces for monogamy. The more stable societies are monogamous ones where roughly each man is paired with one woman, despite the inevitable steady rates of infidelity, divorces etc. This precedes w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 08:08 AM
1	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? That's not true. Nobody wants a mysoginist, which unfortunately these online spaces feed onto everyone. But they are clearly not a monolith, as is evident on Reddit. The reasons behind the men not being picked is much more complex than simply 'women don't want them', it's obviously a direct result of technology and breakdown of communities, which used to ensure like-minded groups of people got to meet. Meeting new people is almost exclusively done via online dating, which benefits those who are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 07:01 AM
2	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Firts of all, you're explaining what women want to me, a woman. Think about it for a second. Secondly, you're in luck because I love evolutionary biology as a topic and myself have a PhD in Genetics. You are siloing your opinions based on a masculine perspective of sex. Your disregard towards how women feel about their partner watching porn proves that. You said men and women have different mating strategies (i.e. men are meant to sow their wild oats) but then you said both men and women evolved…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 05:51 PM
0	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? ' When has a women ever asked if she was the tightest or wettest, etc.' Women ask this all the time. Women are known to constantly seek validation, especially if the man hasn't already told her she is the best in bed he's had. Women also want to be the man's biggest love out of his exes. What all these studies don't take into account is that women have been told since birth that men are natural polygamists and are unable to resist sex when offered (sowing their wild oats, etc). We should be glad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 05:35 PM
0	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? You're not really addressing my observation: that plenty of women don't want men who have engaged in casual sex. 'Then if women don’t like that type of man don’t have anything to do with them' We don't. But men are good at lying. When women are barely teenagers, they learn that a) men are more likely to cheat, b) men loose sexual interest in their own wives as they age, and c) men cannot do without porn (sometimes even when they have a gf/wife sleeping with them). And we then have to navigate ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 03:42 PM
7	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? 'Unable, unwilling or doesn’t have to' it's all the same to me. Lots of us do not want a man like that, it's unwise to think he'll suddenly stop wanting sexual variety just because he found 'the one'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 12:40 PM
2	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Your comment actually made me laugh, thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 12:37 PM
13	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Then date men who get a tonne of sex from different women. The rest of us are happy with monogamous men who are able to foccus on a single woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 08:22 AM
–	Men aren't attracted to their aging partners My husband, who used to be a school teacher, says 18 year old girls look like children, no different to say a 14 year old. He says the appeal starts around 21 years old when most look more adult. Yes, he could be lying, I'm just paraphrasing him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 08:02 AM
2	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Right. She's referring then to the notion that (virgin) women who want virgin men do so because of their religion when it's actually just a personal preference regardless of religion. I do think hookup culture has tried to sush this and tell women 'of course you want an experienced man, that means better sex, etc'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 07:24 AM
3	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? That as well, yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 07:16 AM
8	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Best response in here. But these delusional guys are not ready to hear this, they're mainly focused on women who do sleep around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 07:06 AM
2	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? I have observed this as well in women who have narcissistic tendencies. But this is still a minority of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 07:05 AM
13	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? No, plenty of us who wouldn't. It shows he is unable to commit or control his urges.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 07:00 AM
-1	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Why would religion affect your insecurity?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 06:59 AM
9	Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men? Non-promiscuous women generally do care. However, it's been drummed in them that men are naturally polygamous and need to sow their wild oats, and we should be glad they're settling down with us for monogamous relationships. As a result, women will try to ignore the man's past and focus on other selective traits, but the jealousy is still there. It's very common for women to make a big deal about the exes, or needing reassurance that they're better in bed than the ex, that he loves her more than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 06:59 AM
2	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? Post-wall women can still get laid whenever they want (and for free). It's not the insult you think it is. Secondly, psych meds are very helpful to a lot of people living in the modern, digital, capitalist age which triggers a lot of their mental issues, and has little to do with not having a man. Most older women who are alone that I know are divorced, not unmarried. They've done the marriage, the fairytale wedding, and saw that it did not serve them. Most were also cheated on. I know it's a pi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 12:16 PM
–	We all need to realize that nice =\= good, Why do you think women resort to plastic surgery and beauty enhancements? They too feel that love is conditional upon them looking young and ripe. But yes, capitalism has 100% fueled most gender roles, dating and marriage dynamics, including men being battle-ready and hence the need to repress emotions. Feminists have been saying this since the 70s and pushing for better male mental health, men's participation in meetoo to break the taboo, etc, but somehow, you'll still all label us as misandris…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 10:58 AM
–	Trauma-Bonding is the most effective means of keeping a women's emotional investment in you I mean 'And then men wonder why women leave them'. I'll also add '... and wonder why there's a male loneliness epidemic.'	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:59 AM
–	Trauma-Bonding is the most effective means of keeping a women's emotional investment in you And then men wonder why women leave them 😂 keep it up, bro.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:32 AM
1	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? I could not disagree more. Older women are mentally well equipped to live alone, older men not so much. Data shows this, as does looking at the world around you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:08 AM
1	Women hate sluts more than men do I notice you have 'demisexual' in your flair. I find it fascinating that anyone that steps outside hookup culture/short term mating tends to now label themselves as an 'other'. Forgive me if I'm making assumptions about you, but this was my experience as well when I was young and overwhelmed at the modern dating world and expectations. I've since reconsidered. Promiscuity is not necessarily the norm, it just gets a lot more attention than the opposite, boring, monogamous lifestyle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:04 AM
2	Women hate sluts more than men do Thank you, this is one of the smartest comments I've ever read on Reddit on this subject. Shame that men can't seem to grasp this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 08:08 AM
3	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? Do you really think that these young men are going to forfeit having a family and settling down with a wife who wants them, just because of the woman's body count? I do think social conservatism is going to make a come back in Gen alpha (and I partly support it), but men do not cope well with ageing alone. They'll jump at the first opportunity to get married when they are past 30, regardless of body count.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 07:03 AM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history What I'm trying to say is what I said - that men do marry promiscuous women all the time. Heck, porn actresses all get married/settle down eventually to have kids. It does not decrease a woman's chance of marriage, as the men on here seem to believe. It's a way to try to 'punish' woman, even though it doesn't happen in real life. What you said about abuse is also true, because abusers have a specific skill to draw their partner in and keep them hooked (love bombing, etc), so I'm not sure how it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 06:58 AM
0	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? Same for the women you lot call 'sluts'. In fact, you'll find a large number of former 'sluts' saying they had extreme low self-worth or a history of sexual abuse which led them to promiscuity. But the manosphere would rather continue objectifying them. On the other hand, the (promiscuous) men I know who marry promiscuous women are not traumatized. They 'played the field', then decided to get married and have kids with a fun woman they get along with, who had a similar sexual past as them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 11:37 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history I was addressing this part of your first comment: 'So, we should just believe women aren't shallow because they're women? Basically, feeding into the whole "women are wonderful" stereotype.' No, women are not wonderful, but as a group they are nowhere near as shallow or erratic in behaviour as men. The crime sats was an extreme example of this. A more appropriate example, as I've replied on another comment: Isn't it men who are known to be mostly sexually attracted to women in their late teens a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 11:32 PM
2	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? No, we just know porn is unregulated and any boy/man can watch rape on camera whenever, without bothering to check if the participants are there consensually. And that's disturbing. Women, of course, had to invent ethical porn in order to bring a bit of morality to it and participate in a guilt-free way. What's controlling male brains is wives/gfs pretending they want to watch porn with you just so they can control what you watch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 11:21 PM
2	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? Promiscuous women, sexually liberal women, or what you call men - players. But you'd rather pretend slut isn't an insult?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 11:11 PM
1	Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? You're wrong. Men marry promiscuous women all the time, they just tend to do it in their late 20s/mid 30s when they've all gone around enough and are ready to settle. They seem to also end up with a higher divorce rate. Men mostly love fun women who are relaxed and put up with their jokes, the body count doesn't matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 11:01 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history No, I did not state that. Not sure where you got that conclusion from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 08:14 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Those women are not a majority. They are women who give extra importance to immediate sexual gratification, like there are men who do as well. You're ignoring the rest of us, because it doesn't fit in with your narrative of 'what women want'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 08:10 PM
1	How to reconcile: [Lying about sexual past] X [Men who care are not worth relationships] X [Sexual past does not matter]? I don't think so, men who are popular with women still watch pornography. I don't see a correlation there. You find a lot of the rhetoric in these manosphere/redpill subs is somewhat conservative, and will mention they want a wife (and not just casual sex). If they wanted sex, then the solution would simply be to pay for prostitutes, which most men here do not want to do. If you dig deep enough, there's a subset who will mention being former 'hopeless romantics' who wanted to get married and the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:34 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Yes, there is. The first time sex will likely not be mind-blowing for her, but in the long run it won't matter once they get going at it. If I was single, I'd much rather a virgin man than an overly experienced man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:26 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Isn't it men who are known to be mostly sexually attracted to women in their late teens and early 20s? And women who like men their own age, as they age? Who's shallow now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:19 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Many women on dating apps are there for casual sex (and those women do probably go for looks above all else). It's weird to announce your virginity status straight away. The normal thing to do would be to wait a couple of dates until an emotional connection and interest has been established both ways. I don't see why a virgin 30 year old would put off a woman who is already interested, unless she absolutely wanted a pre-vetted man and immediate sexual gratification.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:17 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Every single promiscuous women I've met in real life got married. They all do, because men don't all think alike. Many want a wife who is fun and will have lots of sex with them, so they'll go for ex-promiscuous women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:14 PM
1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Oh not the whole 'men and women are equally bad'. Just look at crime statistics and the the porn consumed by men ffs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:08 PM
-3	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Plenty of men without looks or who have low socio-economic status find a woman. I understand the manosphere is trying to work out what attracts women, but it's a tad more complex than that. You're focusing on the behaviour of a subset of women (who do go for looks and/or money) and ignoring the rest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 10:26 AM
-2	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Sure. Whatever floats your boat. It's unsurprising so many men are struggling to find a woman who wants them back if they're following your logic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 10:15 AM
-2	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history '51% of women' which means you still have 49% of women who don't mind a virgin. That's half of all women. That is a LOT of women. As to your second point, being a virgin doesn't mean you're not going to have a lot of sex down the line, once you meet your life partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 09:30 AM
0	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history That's the consensus on PPD. You're choosing to not believe women and that's just shooting yourself in the foot. Also, saying that lying is effective and sometimes better than staying single is admitting that sex is more important than the dignity of the human you're trying to convince to have it with you. It's an unhealthy and unsafe approach to sex, this is why women pull away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 08:36 AM
-1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Following your logic, shouldn't men also try to lie about everything else? If they want sex, should they lie about liking a woman or being in love, just so they can have sex? Should he then remain in that relationship, even if they don't like the woman, because it might be the only chance he has at a relationship? Does that justify the emotional damage it does to the woman in these relationships? Do you see where I'm going with this? Edit: in one of my replies above, I recommended OP checks the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 08:25 AM
-1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history This isn't remotely true, just a fear instilled in men by other men. Have a look in r/AskWomenOver30 and actual opinions of women. Of course, it doesn't help that redpill/blackpill stipulates that women cannot be believed. This just compounds the myth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 08:20 AM
-1	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history Do you really believe women in their 30s are that shallow? If you have a connection and chemistry, do you really think most women would prioritize immediate sexual gratification over a potentially great long-lasting relationship? It's common to hear women say that practice makes perfect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 08:15 AM
2	Inexperienced men should not be very forthcoming about their sexual history I could not disagree more. Some people do not want to entertain, date or marry promiscuous people and that is a valid preference. Gender has nothing to do with it. Others don't mind it - so might as well come forward with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 08:11 AM
0	How to reconcile: [Lying about sexual past] X [Men who care are not worth relationships] X [Sexual past does not matter]? A good portion of men (maybe more than half?) don't care about a woman's sexual history. They're just not online giving their opinion on this. It seems to me that, for some of the men for which it does matter, it's because they view sex more as a lifelong commitment and they don't agree with hookup culture (have fun, sow your wild oats, etc). This might overlap with men who are insecure. It would be an acceptable view and this would actually make them more desirable for a relationship, if these …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 07:24 PM
2	Do you think physical intimacy is kind of a given in dating and romantic relationships? ' Its not my problem to think about' You asked a question, I answered it. And women don't owe men who want to fuck them anything, absolutely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 11:08 PM
0	Women should not complain about being left for younger woman Then why the number one complaint of men in here is that they're not being picked by any woman and that when they are picked, women leave them? It sounds like the manosphere is bitter precisely because they can't even have a choice in the type of women they can have. Edit: my question is rhetorical. Men would rather be with women they don't really want if that's all they can get, until a better one shows up. Women would rather be alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 11:29 AM
5	Do you think physical intimacy is kind of a given in dating and romantic relationships? Have you thought that, maybe, because so many women experience being used for sex by men when they think it's a loving relationship, that is why women get so defensive about you asking about sex? Yes, of course sex is a given. The better question is how important immediate sexual gratification is. Some women leave men because they're not compatible right away, others don't because they know physical compatibility sometimes takes time. Some women want sex right away early on in the relationship, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 09:46 AM
-1	Women should not complain about being left for younger woman I obviously disagree with the ridiculous post by OP, but I don't agree that there are enough men to go around. Women are choosing celibacy both in their reproductive prime and also later in life, because life is better for them than having a disrespectful man who wants a quiet bangmaid. It's up to the next gen of parents to raise their kids to be good men that women want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 08:46 AM
–	Being laid back and uninvested is not what makes men attractive, women are attracted to men who act like that because those men are already attractive No. Certain women do that, because they want to be the special one who gets the nonchalant guy. As she ages, she'll change her mind after enough emotional (and sometimes sexual) trauma. Most women are aware that if a man has previously dated a woman, he's instinctively likely to be a safe option (and not a lone wolf killer/rapist). It doesn't mean women are repulsed by virgins, if they have other traits she desires. In fact, most women are known to be jealous of ex-girlfriends/wives. We've been …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 10:53 AM
1	CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit plan Absolutely. But including the 'secret bank account' is incendiary, it makes the relationship very unhealthy, so why get married at all? Divorce laws are already in place to protect SAHMs in case things to south. Men who don't trust women and vice versa should not get married. Follow the European model, co-habitate, keep your finances separate and have kids. Done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 09:21 AM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West I'm sure they'd refuse to fight, yes. But I am surprised sex-starved men have not become violent, since it's what happens in nature. As for your suggestion, we might soon see a counter-culture to the sex revolution of the 70s in the coming years. That counter-culture can be anything from alt-right becoming more mainstream, to people realizing the harm of hookup/pornified culture. We'll see.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 09:39 PM
1	The real pill that explains modern dating in the West Then why do men themselves state they want to 'sow their oats' before settling down? Or does that just apply to Chads? Why does every man on the Internet value sex with multiple women as 'winning' at the game, if the point was to just find one partner forever? The pill theories make it sound as if all women who complain about their male partners cheating are partnered with Chads or wealthy men. That is not true. Any man, regardless of looks or money, has a not-so-low chance of cheating. Because,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 09:20 PM
4	Difference Between Stated And Revealed Preference It depends, I would agree if we're talking only about self-published smut. It's not meant to be high literature. Jane Austen & co is a different world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 07:09 PM
1	q4w: In your opinion, without deflecting, is there anything a woman could do to lower her overall value in the dating market? Nope. I saw a woman just the other day who looked like your typical slightly overweight butch lesbian, two seconds later her husband walks in with their 3 year old child, they kissed, lots of 'I love yous'. So that's not it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 06:55 PM
–	The case of Gisèle Pelicot has me wondering, what percentage of guys would rape if they thought they could totally get away with it? Well, that's terrifying. Are you saying #allmen then (and will that get you removed from Reddit)? Perhaps one way of looking at it is men who like being desired vs men who don't care. For one, I'm anti-sex work precisely because it attracts men who don't care about consent/female sexual enjoyment. There are nuances of course, because women can be forced to pretend they enjoy it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 06:30 PM
2	Difference Between Stated And Revealed Preference This is changing now that women are becoming more and more financially independent. Women were not allowed to own bank accounts and were not employable for most of history, so the choice of mate has been somewhat rigged and influenced by the need to survive. What we're seeing with Gen Z and millenials is different - women value other traits as well as the capacity to work/accumulate resources.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 06:16 PM
5	Difference Between Stated And Revealed Preference No. The women in those novels do literally nothing, the man loves her just because. You are projecting here; men think they must work hard to get the girl. Female competition is an absolute turn off for, I would say, most women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 06:12 PM
5	Difference Between Stated And Revealed Preference No. Money attracts women who are turned on by money. Attractiveness attracts, well, most people (how many men love hunky men?) The men from romance novels all have huge emotional intelligence, a way of understanding women (they're men written by women, after all) and they love the women forever. If you go to the romance/smut novels reddit subs, you'll see the single most requested traits by the female readers is that the male character 1) doesn't cheat on her, 2) is obsessed in love with her, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 05:44 PM
6	It's more socially acceptable to slut-shame men than women I don't think it's helpful to the conversation to continue calling women sluts, even though you're right on the point you're making.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:10 PM
2	It's more socially acceptable to slut-shame men than women I wish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 02:03 PM