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THEN WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING HERE Key word concrete. Everyone knows I was rejected, it did affect my reputation that way, that's a permanent part of my reputation now. Even 5 years from now people will always remember that about me and it will have an effect on how they view me Much of the other stuff you said I've already addressed in the other comments. I encourage you to read through the comment section and then get back to me with a fresh perspective on things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:45 PM
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Yes it is. Everyone knows for a fact that I was rejected, that's a permanent part of my reputation now moving forward. Even 5 years from now girls in the group will always remember that and will effect how they see me What happens if one day they're speaking to my future girlfriend at a workday event and they mention that I was rejected by this other coworker years ago. That's now having an effect on how my girlfriend is seeing me years later
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:29 PM
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Stop putting women on a pedestal simp. They are capable of mishandling things as well, they are not perfect beings like you seem to think they are I'm not saying she's a bad person, I'm just saying I didn't think telling the whole office was necessary. I already owned my mistakes and shortcomings multiples times throughout this thread And for the record, that was not the only reason I left. I'm more on the introverted side and always found work socializing to be a little tiring especially becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:32 PM
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I agree though I deny coming off as a "pussy" Why's this shit gotta be so complicated. Literally have to learn chess and shit just to get laid It is what it is, back to the training grounds
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:50 PM
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None of your business
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:54 PM
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We may just have to agree to disagree. There are so many logical faults in your argument that we would be here all day if I tried to correct them For what it's worth, after it happened, girls who were previously very friendly all of a sudden could barely look me in the eye and barely muster more than a few words to me before turning away. All right after it happened. One of those girls has two family members in the office so they definitely know as well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:52 PM
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If the work environment is chill enough for coworkers to have outings together it's kind of expected for her to have told someone you asked her out. What the hell? Are you serious? You're saying it's reasonable that she spread rumors around me throughout the whole office? This is incredible, people are actually on here DEFENDING her. I want to curse you out right now but then my comment would get removed Ive been there too, hooked up with a coworker/asked someone out, they told someone and someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:45 PM
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How? I never see them. I work on a different floor than the main group
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:39 PM
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That's exactly what I did. I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime. Where did you get all that from? She did clarify asking if it was a date, to which I said yes. Probably should have been more ambiguous
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:44 PM
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I plan to make somewhat of a return in a few months time. I'll probably speak to her then though I'm not sure I'll bring it up to her directly. I need to move carefully now. We'll see, I'll provide an update if anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:01 PM
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I'm not sure how experienced you are with social dynamics but getting rejected usually doesn't improve a mans reputation. It usually does the opposite This person basically said you are inferior as a romantic prospect then went and told everyone they made that decision about me. Girls in the group will always remember that even 5 years from now and it does affect how they view you, romantically or otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:53 PM
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I’m not the only person who agreed OP’s mentality is immature and teenage-level thinking. And many more didn't, so your not in the majority Considering the feelings and opinions of others does not mean you have to limit yourself. The fact that you think in those two extremes says a lot about you. You're just looking where your stepping when you walk, you can still go for a walk
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:45 PM
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I'm not sure how much better I can explain that. I feel like that's a common response to being rejected. You seriously can't understand why that's embarrassing? Have you never been rejected before? This person basically said you are beneath me and inferior as a potential mate, then told everyone that she thinks that about me. You could say tough it out I guess, but it's normal to feel a little embarrassed I think
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:37 PM
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You just built a mountain out of molehill and exaggerated my thoughts and actions completely lmao You're assuming I'm here for cartharsis and emotional support. No, I'm just here to share the lessons from my experience as it can help others. I'm not obsessing over anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:14 PM
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For the record, that was not the only reason I left. I'm more on the intoverted side and always found work socializing to be a little tiring especially because I do not get paid for it and even tried to minimize it back then. The situation with her was just one more reason to just pull the bandaid off and go cold turkey. At this point I like the way things are now and I do not want to go back But you are technically right. Remaining unfazed in your behavior would be the ideal way to go about thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:05 PM
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It's embarrassing for numerous people to know that you were rejected by someone in the group, especially if you will be seeing them all again regularly moving forward. Is that so hard to understand? For my reputation it's more that I don't know about any damage it might have had than it is there was no damage, because I left. There could very well be damage and I just don't know about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:54 PM
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Yeah its more that I don't know about the effects to my reputation because I left than it is that there were no effects to my reputation There could very well have been effects and I just don't know about it. People are running with that a little too quickly And obciously everyone knows I was rejected, that is now a permanent part of my reputation moving forward
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:52 PM
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It's more that I don't know about the effects to my reputation because I left than it is that there were no effects to my reputation There could very well have been effects and I just don't know about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:51 PM
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It's really incredible how I'm being made the bad guy here. She didn't make it weird by telling everyone? It's my fault? Alright
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:49 PM
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You sound like an abrasive and immature person. "The opinions and feelings of others don't matter". I DO NOT want someone who thinks like that in my life. And that's also an incorrect statement
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:45 PM
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I made this post to communicate the message that asking a girl out in social circle risks your reputation. That's a lesson other people can benefit from. I didn't make this post to whine? Where am I crying? You people are so inconsiderate for no reason, that's crazy, like what did I do? I handled the rejection fine in my opinion so Im not even know what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:41 PM
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It's embarrassing for numerous people to know that you were rejected by someone in the group, especially if you will be seeing them all again regularly moving forward. Is that so hard to understand? For my reputation it's more that I don't know about any damage it might have had than it is there was no damage, because I left. There could very well be damage and I just don't know about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:36 PM
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What rumors are being spread? You said “there could be rumors for alI know” in the other comment— you don’t know there are rumors. The rumor that I was rejected obviously, I know for a fact that was spread around and that's somewhat embarrassing. As for "there could be rumors for all I know", yes there could be more talk beyond that that I don't know about. Is that so hard to understand? How am I worrying? I just made these posts to communicate the message that in social circle, asking a girl ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:08 PM
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I'm talking about real life not dating sites. If a girl sees that other girls in her friend group like a guy, that will typically make him more attractive to her as well. The reverse is true as well, other girls not liking him makes him less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:04 PM
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Preselection is being attracted to a guy because other women are also attracted to him. That's not settling, completely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:49 AM
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This post applies to all social circles, not just work. And while people say that plenty of relationships still come from work, it's a pretty common thing. My office has two open couples
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:47 AM
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You still didn't give me a signal inside the workplace. That's just another way of asking her out. But why would you ask her out if you saw no SIGNS that she might say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:38 AM
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And it still sucks to have those kind of rumors spread about you. I don't know why everyone's acting like she's blameless and it's all my fault
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:15 AM
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You people are ridiculous. It's obviously different coming from a same aged peer. What's an example of a sign in your opinion? Or do women NEVER give men signs? They're always just being nice, end of story?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:24 AM
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I'm talking about INSIDE the workplace You skipped so many steps lol. How do you magically get to hanging out outside work hours without asking her to hang out outside work hours..which is what I did in my original post Seems you actually agree with me then
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:19 AM
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There could be rumors like that for all I know. Im just disconnected at this point so wouldn't know about it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:10 AM
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Jeez we have to do the work of making the approach, actually putting our neck on the line and then we get crucified for not being perfect This stuff takes trial and experience. I already said it was bad. I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:06 AM
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What would be an example of a signal, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:53 AM
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What would be an example of a signal, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 01:52 AM
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I agree with this. I was surprised by the lack of sympathy in the responses, not that I was fishing for it. I wasn't expecting to get blamed and said it was all my fault
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:12 PM
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At all? Really? You're saying there's a 0% chance there was anything more than purely platonic? Really? You really have to be there to see how a person says it, their body language, etc. I'm not autistic I know what signals look like. And that was just one example, there were many more leading up to it It's funny, there are women like you who think nothing is a signal but elsewhere on Reddit, there women making posts asking why a guy hasn't made a move when they're making it soo obvious and givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:57 PM
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Eh..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:42 PM
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That's a good way of looking at it. A mistake is only a mistake if you don't learn from it. It was damage to my ego more than anything, but that passed pretty quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:38 PM
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You're free to your interpretation By the way, that's how flirtation works. It's meant to be ambiguous with a lots grey area, so a girl(or guy)can always say, "I was just being nice! I didn't mean anything by that!" Those who don't understand that probably aren't good at flirting and can't tell when others are flirting, like you. They take things at face value and think a person means exactly what they say. Human communication is more complicated than that. There's a lot going on underneath the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:34 PM
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I'm sorry but you sound like a woman without a lot of romantic experience. Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:27 PM
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Very true, she fits that profile
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:24 PM
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Do you also believe that if your friend had not rejected him, you would be more attracted to the guy as a result? Yeah this is just female nature. It's how you're designed. I believe it's called preselection Women are copycat maters. They use the assessments of other women to help them assess men For men of course it's nothing like this, we don't use the opinions of other men to help determine if a woman is attractive. We just need to see her for a split second and can assess her just from that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:23 PM
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Wise words. Yes, this is called life experience and there's only one way to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:13 PM
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We have spoken since that day. She's VERY friendly with me and tries to interact with me a lot when I am around. I assume she's trying to make up for everything that happened but it does often come across like she still likes me not gonna lie We haven't spoken about what happened
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:11 PM
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I get what your saying and agree to an extent but the opinions of your coworkers do matter to a certain degree. It can have an affect on your work, promotions down the line. It can even get you fired in some cases Other people do matter, we're not an island
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was the case that she was turned off by the way I asked her out then it was that I misread her signals That example was just one of many before I decided to make a move, there were numerous ones before that Are you saying that a compliment NEVER means anything more than platonic kindness? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:57 PM
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As am I. For the record though, this logic applies to other places and well not just places where you make money. This can happen in any social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:27 PM
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Girls definitely do care if a guy has been rejected by other girls
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:04 PM
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Yeah to be fair there hasn't really been any concrete damage to my reputation as far as I know. Closer to 4 and 5. I guess I just felt awkward at first but had I stuck around, things would have probably been fine The girl I asked seems to like me even more now, I think she was impressed by the way I handled the rejection. But i'm not making that mistake again Nowadays when I run into the main group they will often make a joke about how they haven't seen me in a while and likely won't see me agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:48 PM
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No..a social circle doesn't have to be self-chosen. Even a forced social circle like work is still a social circle A social circle is any group of people that sees each other on a recurring basis If you went to jail, your cellmates would still be part of your social circle even though you are being forced to be there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:42 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:23 PM
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Lol I don't think she did that on purpose but shoot anything's possible. But yeah, I just need to learn from my mistakes and move forward. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:16 PM
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How does me being uncomfortable with multiple girls knowing about a recent rejection mean I didn't take it well? That doesn't prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:12 PM
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Ahh that's the magic of plausible deniability...it's incredible. Even random internet women will call you crazy and deny there were any signals there. It was all in your head and it's all your fault For the record, the only thing I'm blaming her for is telling everyone, I don't think that was necessary. I already owned the fact that I shouldn't have asked her out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:06 PM
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Still a social circle. Just one that revolves around work Also, work environments vary. Some are much more casual and you do end up becoming friends with your colleagues
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:02 PM
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Like I said, that's you. Not every woman is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:59 PM
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How did you ask her out? I assume you became close before doing it. I probably should have done that but there's always the friendzone if you wait too long. It's tricky
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:57 PM
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Yeah I agree, I shouldn't have messaged her. My logic there was that: 1). I would only see her in group settings at work and we were almost never alone together. So it would have been hard to find a natural opportunity to do it in person 2). I didn't want to waste my time "working" on a girl who might not pan out. I swear I'm not lazy, I just don't like wasting my time. But I think that's how it has to go in social circle, can't move too quickly In the end, I don't regret doing this because I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:49 PM
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Still a social circle. A delicate one you could say
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:41 PM
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Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:40 PM
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Yeah I think I'll do that next time, that's the mistake I thought I made too. I should have gotten closer to her first and built things up more naturally within the office Only problem with that though, I don't want to waste my time "working" on a girl who might not pan out. I swear I'm not lazy, I just don't like wasting my time. But I think that's how it has to go in social circle, can't move too quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:39 PM
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Yeah..I don't think I'm going back lol. I like the way things are now. Less social work for me which I don't get paid for and I'm more of an introvert anyway so it was always a little tiring I'll still go to the major holiday events, but that's about it But I agree with your sentiment, onwards and upwards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:33 PM
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That's literally what I did lmao why are you assuming I did something differently? I called her down and asked if she wanted to hang out sometime outside of work. She clarified asking if I meant a date. I said yes. And she rejected me We seem to have the same mind about strategy. I think it's the way I did it that got me rejected I messaged her and asked her to meet me outside saying there was something I wanted to ask. I'm sure she already knew what was up She went to the wrong place by mistake…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:29 PM
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Yeah that's rough, I think it was a good call not to sleep with her though. Could have turned into a rape charge
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:22 PM
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Work is a social circle by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:19 PM
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Why? As long he was polite, why do you have to chop his head off? Many girls don't mind being approached at work. We have no way of knowing beforehand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:18 PM
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Did you ever hook up with a coworker?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:13 PM
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Yeah to be fair there hasn't really been any concrete damage to my reputation. I guess I just felt awkward at first but had I stuck around, things would have probably been fine The girl I asked seems to like me even more now, I think she was impressed by the way I handled the rejection. But i'm not making that mistake again Nowadays when I run into the main group they will often make a joke about how they haven't seen me in a while and likely won't see me again. Everyone laughs but the girl I as…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:12 PM
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Agreed. I'll stick to cold approach for now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:00 PM
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I agree but it's a little tricky for me. I have the looks but I don't have the game right now. So girls give me signs but when I try and make a move they reject me for my lack of game But I agree. Don't try and do this unless you're an experienced playboy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:58 PM
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Work is most certainly a social circle. What makes you think it is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:41 PM
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Yes, your post is spot on and reflects my situation clearly. I only asked out one girl and the entire pool is poisoned for me now. Lesson learned. A mistake is only a mistake if you do not learn from it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:40 PM
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I am attractive, I just don't have game. The way I did it is what got me rejected most likely You have to fail to improve and learn from your mistakes. I don't regret doing this because I was able to learn from it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:33 PM
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You wanted me to try and be friends with her first? That nice guy bs never works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:31 PM
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You sound like a mean person Why do you need to punish a guy by spreading rumors about him when you already rejected him? Like did he assault you? What do you need to warn about? Hate people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:30 PM
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It doesn't always equal attraction but obvously in many cases it does. Are you people serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:26 PM
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I messaged her and asked her to meet me outside saying there was something I wanted to ask. I'm sure she already knew what was up She went to the wrong place by mistake and didn't come to me until a long while after. By that point the moment had been built up for me and I was pretty nervous and I just asked her out. She said no immediately giving reason that she had another crush who turned her down recently. I said sorry I thought I felt something there, said no hard feelings, we laughed, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:25 PM
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Okay now you're just being disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:16 PM
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It doesn't always equal attraction but obvously in many cases it does. Are you people serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:10 PM
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I didn't want only replies that challenge my view. I tried to make this a discussion but you guys removed it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:08 PM
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I already know that, I just prefer the way things are now. Less social work on my part which I don't get paid for. I'm not scared to go back I just don't want to anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:06 PM
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No it doesn't. Get some life experience please
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:04 PM
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Also, the only thing I'm blaming her for is telling everyone. Didn't think that was necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:03 PM
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"You could talk to the girl, tell her how you feel (and make her feel bad) but don't ostracize yourself, you did nothing wrong. In fact it's better to have done it than keep wondering "what if" I agree with you here. I have no regrets. I'm glad I did it and learned an important lesson. As for going back, I actually like the way things are now. Less social work on my part I don't think I'll talk to her about it, don't think that will lead to anything good
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:02 PM
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Naw im good, but thanks for your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:56 PM
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You have no idea what you're talking about lmao. Compliments aren't a sign of attraction? Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:54 PM
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You clearly lack experience with women. Mutual attraction does not guarantee a girl will say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:53 PM
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Because everyone's saying the same thing. That's why I made an edit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:51 PM
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You're annoying. Did you not hear me say that was already my rule? When a cute girl starts giving you compliment after compliment, stares, and smiles, you start to wonder if you can maybe break that rule this one time. After all, many relationships do happen at work..,it's not impossible I'm just saying she didn't have to tell everyone. That's what my post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:49 PM
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I have the looks but I don't have the game right now. So girls give me signs but when I try and make a move they reject me for my lack of game But I agree. Don't try and do this unless you're an experienced playboy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:41 PM
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You're straight up wrong. She was giving me compliment after compliment. No heterosexual man could have missed those signals But since she rejected me, it's my fault. That's the magic of plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:37 PM
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Everyone's saying the exact same thing. You want me to type a unique response to the same exact messages? That's why I made an edit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:34 PM
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THERE WAS mutual attraction wtf, that's the reason I made a move in the first place. She made it very obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:33 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b****
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:30 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b**** Also many relationships continue to come from the workplace. While it is risky(mostly for the guy) I'm not why people act like this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:27 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b**** Also many relationships continue to come from the workplace. While it is risky(mostly for the guy) I'm not why people act like this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:26 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b**** Also many relationships continue to come from the workplace. While it is risky(mostly for the guy) I'm not why people act like this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:25 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b**** Also many relationships continue to come from the workplace. While it is risky(mostly for the guy) I'm not why people act like this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:25 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b**** Also many relationships continue to come from the workplace. While it is risky(mostly for the guy) I'm not why people act like this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:24 PM
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I already had a rule against coworkers but she was giving me the most blatant signs imaginable. Turns out she's just a flirtatious girl or just didn't like the way I asked and suddenly pretended she was never giving out signals at all Plausible deniability is a b**** Also many relationships continue to come from the workplace. While it is risky(mostly for the guy) I'm not why people act like this never happens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:20 PM
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Not yet but we can see that things will trend that way soon. Low birth rates are very dangerous for a species
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:47 AM
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This is very true, it moved more into the private sector. We may need to see it move back to the public in some ways to help mitigate the low birthrates problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:43 AM
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Loll its not that I'm not thinking about people's responses. It's just that everyone's response was pretty straightforward for the most part. It was really a yes or no thing. And I agree with all their reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:53 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:47 PM
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Some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:46 PM
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Haha very nice my man. I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:44 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:42 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:40 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:40 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:39 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:39 PM
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Yeah I agree However some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall. Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:39 PM
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Yeah I hear you but I don't think there's a middle ground. Once you open Pandoras box, it's like all or nothing and society will always take it to the extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:37 PM
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Well, thoughtful answer. I'm a man but yeah I agree The access and time for education is a huge benefit, but I think that mostly appeals to scholarly women I think some women who criticize the sexual revolution have said things like women have to work but are still expected to do a lot of work in the home, which has added to their labor overall. I think they also say that standards for men have gone down somehow overall? Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:33 PM
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Yes, this is the right answer. So obvious. Everything else is oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:54 PM
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I respect your self awareness but like I said, they could still do support roles. Or work as Snipers mostly. They don't have to be on the front lines But yeah I do wonder if most women could handle the mental stress and composure of being on a live battlefield like most men could. Is there really a biological difference there? I feel like it's usually politically incorrect to talk about that though I agree Men have an edge but you make it sound like women would be absolutely useless on the battl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:21 PM
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You can't pull a trigger? Guns are the great equalizer. We're not fighting with fists anymore. A man and a woman with weapons are relatively on the same playing field To be honest this sounds like an excuse And it would be more practical to have women still in the army but as support roles. They don't all have to go to the front
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:57 PM
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You can't pull a trigger? Guns are the great equalizer. We're not fighting with fists anymore. A man and a woman with weapons are relatively on the same playing field To be honest this sounds like an excuse And it would be more practical to have women still in the army but as support roles. They don't all have to go to the front
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:53 PM
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The only alternative is that they don't ever exist at all. Is that better? The kids would probably rather be born to an old father than to never be born at all and never given a chance at life Did you ever think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:36 AM
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I believe the Islamic Countries that impose large restrictions on their women(and men)are quite literally holding humanity back. Entire nations of women who are unable to access the bulk of human knowledge and unable to learn as they see fit. Unable to contribute to the human information spectrum like the rest of humanity. This is a little off topic, but we're you ever attracted to or have romantic interactions with any Afghanistan women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:39 PM
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It wouldn't Women have the absolute control over the dating market, and the marriage, and family courts Both men and women decide how many children they have from what I understand. Are you trying to say that most men want 5 children but women are deciding to keep it to 2? Come on, I don't think that's what's going on. Lower birth rates are a natural result of more developed societies. There's a naturally lower incentive, for both men and women, to have fewer children. In agricultural societies,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:20 AM
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Okay, but I can only assume that pro life women know all of these facts, statistics, and trends and how voting pro life hurts them and yet choose to vote pro life regardless. So I can't give them all of this as an excuse if they knowingly take it on. Why do we always refuse to give women accountability. This is something I always notice. We always try to find some way to say it's not their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:34 AM
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Okay, but I can only assume that pro life women know all of these facts, statistics, and trends and how voting pro life hurts them and yet choose to vote pro life regardless. So I can't give them all of this as an excuse if they knowingly take it on. Why do we always refuse to give women accountability. This is something I always notice. We always try to find some way to say it's not their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:32 AM
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Okay, but I can only assume that pro life women know all of these facts, statistics, and trends and how voting pro life hurts them and yet choose to vote pro life regardless. So I can't give them all of this as an excuse if they knowingly take it on. Why do we always refuse to give women accountability. This is something I always notice. We always try to find some way to say it's not their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:32 AM
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Excellent comment. I didnt know most pro lifers were women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:14 AM
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Women wouldn't be able to reproduce without men so it's a moot point No, it's not. They still do all of the reproductive labor. We participate in the act of sex(the best part), but we don't do anything beyond that Birth rates are below replacement levels This would be a result of both men and women, by your own admission in the comment above Women are neither having kids, nor doing any work important for the society Not true. You wouldn't be able to read this sentence if not for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:08 AM
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How are the men benefiting but the women not? Both of them want the same thing don't they? To make abortion illegal just women getting their rights taken away. Only women who are pro choice. Pro life women don't feel that they're getting they're rights taken away. That's what complicates things
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:51 AM
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In what ways? Everyone pays the same percentage in regards to their salary bracket and location. Overall, I would assume men pay more simply because men make more. Not even from a wage gap point of view, men just tend to have higher paying jobs I think. But it's even in terms of percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:42 AM
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Chill bro lol, that's just the vibe I got from your post is all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:34 PM
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As a man, women pay taxes just like men so i think that should earn them equal rights. They also do 100% of the labor in the reproductive sector. They're the ones giving birth, carrying a baby for 9 months, getting periods every month and dealing with the logistics of that, etc. Men don't do any of those things. So your argument about women not doing construction could be turned around here. Not every gender has to do every job in equal measure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:27 PM
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You know, I hear this expressed often but it's always expressed in a "men are taking away women's rights" kind of way. You are aware that many women vote for and support these anti abortion Republican men correct? Men are the figureheads of anti abortion, but they wouldnt be able to do this without all the women who support them. So it's men and women who are taking women's rights away
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:07 PM
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They also desire toxic masculine behavior during sex. Slapping, choking, etc. As a guy, you're supposed to be able to turn on that toxic masculine side of you like a switch and then turn it off again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:55 AM
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There are actually guys who get turned off when a girl makes the moves, believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:54 AM
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No..Men do have higher Testosterone levels, we literally do have a greater ability to push past that anxiety than girls do. Were better at risk taking behaviors, because of our hormonal profile
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:41 AM
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I wouldn't say it's "looked down upon", but it can be a bad look for many people when a girl is too forward you know? There's like an unwritten rule that girls are supposed to be pursued
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:28 AM
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Right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:46 AM
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That is such a feminist response haha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:28 AM
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I think what's happening here, and what happens with many women, is that because they do not experience good sex very often if ever throughout their entire lives, they come to believe that sex in and of itself is not as enjoyable or is inferior to masturbation simply because she and her partner can typically bring her to orgasm more consistently in that way. Its not normal for masturbation to feel better than sex. When done properly, an orgasm from sex should be way more enjoyable and intense th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:06 PM
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Men conceive of sex as what gets them off instead of what gets both people off. Both men and women can orgasm from sex. So I don't know what you're talking about here Anyway I said it was foreplay, not sex. I'm not sure what you mean here. Can you elaborate? You’re “real man” Mumbo jumbo is superstition that acts as an obstacle to men making women cum. Hence the orgasm gap. Women view men who make them cum as hot since they are rare. A man who can make a woman orgasm with his penis is whats rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:52 PM
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Lesbians don't have sex with a penis like men so it's not the same. They typically masturbate each other or use a device
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:31 PM
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Yeah I've seen that sentiment expressed as well, especially among sexually experienced women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:10 PM
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What else does he do? We're not talking about forplay here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:58 PM
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You think an orgasm from masturbation feels better than orgasm from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:54 PM
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Ehh..that's a bit of a stretch bro. Most heterosexual men do not enjoy being f***** in the a**. That's not a realistic option for most guys. So I can't really count that here. It's too big of an anomaly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:47 PM
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Terpers? Not familiar with that term lol I assume you're talking about men who take credit and pride for the achievements of other men? Yeah, can't say I respect that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:27 AM
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Some men like to master things but most guys aren't like that. Most guys are average and just do the bare minimum. Men with a high desire to achieve and master things are in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:17 AM
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No one is dismissing it. You guys are incorrect in trying to lump forplay and sex into one thing. A guy can be good at foreplay but bad at sex. They are two separate things. We can go ahead and imagine a scenario where a guy gives good forplay but then performs poorly in the sex act. There, we're not dismissing it anymore. But my main point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:51 AM
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Well I mean yeah some guys are naturally good right off the bat, for various reasons. But this isn't the majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:32 AM
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They're choosing the harder role? Is it really a choice? They're choosing to have sex but they're not choosing the role. There are no other options. So it's not really a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:18 AM
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Interesting. My brother has said this to me as well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:35 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:10 PM
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I don't think that's entirely fair. I think there are many self critical women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:06 PM
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Good take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:03 PM
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This is because most men are bad in bed. The ideal for a woman is to orgasm through penetrative sex, not clitoris stimulation. Like do I really have to argue this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:02 PM
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I have experience in bringing a woman to orgasm. Not with your penis. Completely different thing. Entirely different skill set I would also like for you to look up “3D model of the clitoris”. A woman’s sexual response is quite a bit different and more complex than you describe. The clitoris is a large organ which wraps around the vaginal canal and engorges with blood when aroused, its analogous to the penis. That's fine, but many pleasure spots of the vagina are located inside. Some of these are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:55 PM
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Yeah, I feel like girls always take that a little too seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:41 PM
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I mean..is my statement wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:32 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:26 PM
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You think most men would pass up free sex with a girl to jerk off instead? I want what you're smoking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:25 PM
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If you gave most men an option between jerking off and starfish sex, most men will still take the starfish sex. It's better than nothing for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:19 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:17 PM
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This is true. This goes into the biological and evolutionary background of all this. But I'm not sure if most people in this thread are ready to go that deep into the rabbit hole haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:15 PM
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Good take. I agree with pretty much all of this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:08 PM
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Good take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:07 PM
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Thanks for that perspective. That's really something. Unlike a man, whether a woman enjoys sex seems to be almost entirely dependent on who she is having it with This makes me think of the many women who state that they simply do not enjoy sex or do not see what the big deal is about. I think many women go most or their entire lives thinking they do not enjoy sex when in reality, they simply have never had it with someone who was who skilled and generous enough to make them enjoy the sex act. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:06 PM
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This is an insightful response. I agree with pretty much all of this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:54 PM
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Thank you for your response and perspective. You sound like a good girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:49 PM
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Because I know that the vagina has different pleasure spots, many of them located inside the vagina. Some of them you can only reach with your penis, not your hands and mouth. Unless your using a device
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:49 PM
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You're making a lot of claims about something you've never done and have no direct experience in. Show some humility, please. Don't talk so confidently about things you have no direct experience in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:41 PM
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That's not real sex. A real man makes a girl orgasm with his p****, not his fingers or mouth. A girl will not view a man who makes her cum with his hands and mouth the same she does a man who makes her cum with his p****
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:37 PM
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Okay but she's still not teaching you here. You're teaching yourself more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:26 PM
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Oh right..forgot about that..haha. This kind of an extreme case though, similar to a woman accidentally biting your d*** during a bj or pegging you without your consent or some similar situation. I'm not sure if I'm including anomalies like this, but you are technically correct. She would have fallen under the floor here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:22 PM
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Girls are not professors of sex, no one taught them this stuff either. If she's experienced, she may know what she likes. If she's inexperienced, she may not even know what she likes and won't be able to instruct you. You'd have to learn through her reactions and monitor your behavior accordingly They also never had sex as a guy so she doesn't have actual experience doing it herself. So they are instructing on something they've never actually done
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:15 PM
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This is because most men are bad in bed. Girls can cum more consistently from the clitoris because they can do it themselves. And they're more used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:05 PM
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But they are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:46 PM
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Okay and? Those orgasms are not as enjoyable or as difficult to achieve as penetrative ones would be, unless they are using a strapon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:19 PM
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Well yeah, there are guys like that too who are just naturally good off the bat. I wouldn't say this is the majority though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:15 PM
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That is quite the assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:07 PM
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I'm focusing on the sex here because women don't have to work as hard or learn to make a guy orgasm, unlike men. So I'm asking them for more humility in this specific area. That's the main point of this post Girls have to learn forplay just like guys so I'm not asking them for humility here. That's not to say I think sex is all about penetration. That's a big assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:05 PM
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Oh my god..Im not saying forplay doesnt matter in sex. Im saying that for this discussion I'm talking about sex specifically, not forplay. I'm focusing on the sex here because women don't have to work as hard or learn to make a guy orgasm, unlike men. So I'm asking them for more humility in this specific area. That's the main point of this post Girls have to learn forplay just like guys so I'm not asking them for humility here. That's not to say I think sex is all about penetration. That's a big…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:05 PM
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Are you saying you didn't enjoy that sex at all? Are you saying you didn't orgasm? Even when the girls bad in bed, it still beats jacking off for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:00 PM
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I'm talking about sex here, not makeout sessions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:58 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:52 PM
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Masturbation and penetrative sex are not the same thing. Orgasming from masturbation does not feel the same as orgasming from penetrative sex. Penatrative sex feels way better. It's night and day, you can't compare the two in that way. Even if she doesn't get off, the act you being inside her was still more enjoyable then using your hands or mouth would have been. V****** are meant to be penetrated, not played with with fingers and tongues
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:47 PM
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95% of women can cum within 5 min of masturbation Masturbation and penetrative sex are not the same thing. Orgasming from masturbation does not feel the same as orgasming from penetrative sex. It's night and day, you can't compare the two in that way. And of course, making a girl orgasm with your p**** is much different than making her orgasm with your hands or mouth and requires an entirely different skill set. Don't say "it's not that hard" if you've never had to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:43 PM
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That's what I meant in my opening post when i said "you either figure this out on your own or not". There are men who get good through experience and figure it out on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:41 PM
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95% of women can cum within 5 min of touching themselves. It’s not that hard. Have you ever had sex with a woman? Even with a strapon? Masturbation and penetrative sex are not the same thing. Orgasming from masturbation does not feel the same as orgasming from penetrative sex. It's night and day, you can't compare the two in that way. And of course, making a girl orgasm with your p**** is much different than making her orgasm with your hands or mouth and requires an entirely different skill set.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:38 PM
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You are nearly correct when you say "no one teaches you this stuff." There is one person you have to learn from, and that is the person you are currently having sex with. Being "good at sex" doesn't require mountains of knowledge and experience (though it couldn't hurt), it requires being attentive to your partner. You try different things, and when something makes them gasp and convulse, keep doing that thing. Remember that thing for later. Try going a little faster or slower, softer or harder …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:26 PM
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They talk about forplay too yes, but they are also talking about the sex act. I'm focusing on the sex here because women don't have to work as hard or learn to make a guy orgasm, unlike men. So I'm asking them for more humility in this specific area. That's the main point of this post Girls have to learn forplay just like guys so im not asking them for humility here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:22 PM
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I'm inclined to agree with this actually..most girls are actually bad in bed. There's just a lower standard for them. Having a p**** counts as being good in bed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:15 PM
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Not to sound racist but i've heard asian girls do this alot. Do you think there's truth to that? To this I will say, there are many girls who act like this during sex and guys still have sex with them and enjoy it. I'm sure most of these guys would prefer a girl who doesn't just lay there, but most will still take that over masturbation. So this doesn't disprove my point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:11 PM
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No dude..I genuinley believe most men are bad in bed. I believe women when say this. It's not just about duty sex. Women have said this even about one night stands
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:02 PM
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I've never been with a woman who didn't learn how to maximize my pleasure. It's just normal. Even with boring, normal sex she's going to be playing with my dick first. But you would still enjoy it even if she didn't learn to maximize your pleasure. I assume you enjoyed it the first time right? So this doesn't negate my point. Foreplay is a big part of sex, so I don't think it's fair to disregard blowjobs. It takes just as much learning to make a guy cum with your mouth as it does a woman. Nah..t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:58 PM
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What made her bad in bed exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:51 PM
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I'm not sure I understand. Do you agree or disagree with my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:48 PM
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Sex is absolutely not enjoyable if the woman just lays there and does nothing. I'd never have sex with a woman again if she didn't put effort into it. That's sort of an extreme example and even then, there are many girls who act like this during sex and guys still have sex with them. So this is a you thing. Assuming she has regular sex like a normal person, the guy will enjoy it, come on here. I'm bi. Giving blowjobs isn't exactly "easy" either. Your jaw gets sore, it can take ages for some guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:46 PM
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By kind of girl, basically how attractive you are haha. What do you think about black guys 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:23 PM
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You are interesting haha. It seems like you have a type, both of those guys seem to be mostly latino but slightly mixed with black. I honestly would never have thought these guys have girls crushing on them really hard but I'm a guy so. Question, how would you rate yourself out of ten? Just wondering kind of girl you might be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:09 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:27 AM
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I'm not disagreeing per say but I would try sorting it differently than how it does by default. I've seen a decent amount of men of color posted there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:48 AM
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Who are your two crushes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:43 AM
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Exactly, it's not as relevant from a distance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:35 AM
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Uh I'm a guy lol but yeah you're probably right. What a shame
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:28 AM
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Yes I did read the comments, many of them are genuine. And I agree with what you are saying about social status, but that doesn't negate my argument. There are more physically attractive actors and musicians than what is posted there. If girls valued physical looks so much, you would probably mostly see those actors posted there and not the "okay" ones or the arguably not attractive ones. They all get the status boost, so its a leveled playing field for them. But girls tastes vary It's like this…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:15 AM
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Dude there are plenty of commenters who actually think he's cute. What makes you think they are sarcastic? It may seem like that from your perspective because you find it hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:09 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:03 AM
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Think of any famous person that you consider unattractive. Type them into that sub and you will probably find posts about them as well Even Danny Devito gets posted there reddit.com: search results - Danny Devito
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:02 AM
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Even Danny Devito gets posted there reddit.com: search results - Danny Devito Think of any famous person that you consider unattractive. Type them into that sub and you will probably find posts about them as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:01 AM
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Think of a famous person that you consider unattractive. Type them into that sub and you will probably find posts about them as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:00 AM
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Danny Devito is even posted there though reddit.com: search results - Danny Devito
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:54 AM
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Even Danny Devito gets posted there reddit.com: search results - Danny Devito Think of any famous person that you consider unattractive. Type them into that sub and you will probably find posts about them as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:52 AM
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Danny Devito There actually are several posts about him believe it or not reddit.com: search results - Danny Devito
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:49 AM
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I like your analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:41 AM
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But there are more physically attractive actors and musicians than what is posted there. If girls valued physical looks so much, you would probably mostly see those actors posted there and not the "okay" ones or the arguably not attractive ones. They all get the status boost, so its a leveled playing field for them. But girls tastes vary It's like this in real life too, guys just don't realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:34 AM
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Well girls don't really make the first move. They wait and hope for the guys they like to come to them. So that's a reason that wouldn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:32 AM
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It depends on the context but they could definitely think the guy is reasonably cute, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:30 AM
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I agree with you. But there are more physically attractive actors and musicians than what is posted there. If girls valued physical looks so much, you would probably mostly see those actors posted there and not the "okay" ones or the arguably not attractive ones. They all get the status boost, so its a leveled playing field for them. But girls tastes vary It's like this in real life too, guys just don't realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:29 AM
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But the women on there are specifically raving about the mens looks, not their status or fame. Look at the posts. Also, there are a lot of guys on this sub who think there is absolutely no hope for a man if he does not have above average looks. But as you say yourself, dressing well and having status can play a big role
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:12 AM
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But they're not ignoring they're looks though. If you look at the posts, they are specifically talking about they're looks and physically features and drooling over them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:06 AM
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So you admit that girls don't only want "Hot Guys"? That's all my post is trying to say. Many guys on this sub believe that if you're not physically attractive, there is absolutely no hope for you. That subreddit disproves that. And status is just one way of doing it Also, the women aren't raving about the men's status. If you look at the posts, they are specifically talking about they're looks and physically features and drooling over them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:03 AM
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I will respond to this in a year
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:07 PM
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And I'm saying that there is no such thing as a man who did not work on their charisma. Socializing is a skill and at some point they had to learn it. Even if they had an environment that made it easier for them(they had many siblings and so they were socializing a lot, they are extroverted so they seek out social interactions), there was still a point in their lives where they were performing reflection and analysis, reflecting on social interactions that they had and saying to themselves, "Mhm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:51 PM
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That's not a good example because unlike charisma, height is not something you can work on. So they're not on an equal playing field by default. Thsis
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:14 PM
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Sex is something the woman gives because by in large, she is the one who decides whether the man gets to sleep with her or not. She is the gatekeeper to sex. So she is essentially giving sex to the man. Even if she enjoys it, the decision of whether it happens is ultimately hers. The man is not on equal footing here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:26 AM
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That other men will lose respect for them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:58 AM
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No it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:50 AM
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Ehh I can't say I agree with that Yes you are correct that its harder for women to enjoy sex. But just because a woman has a boyfriend who's good in bed doesn't mean she's a player. Those are two completely different things. Here's how I see it: A male player is man who gets sex without having to put in much investment or commitment and a female player is a woman who gets investment and commitment without having to give up sex So a female player would be a woman who has multiple guys giving her …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:50 AM
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Being charismatic isn't hard but becoming charismatic is. Being attractive is also hard dude. It's not just about genetics. Eating well, working out, dressing well, etc. Maintaining ones beauty is a lot of work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:44 AM
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No man is born charismatic. They became that way through experience. They put in the work to become that way at some point in their lives. And just because its easy for them doesn't mean it's warrants less respect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:41 AM
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Well, I'm not asking a question I'm stating my opinion. What you’re really asking is why can’t women be players without being judged? I don't think women should be judged for sleeping with a lot of men. But to answer your question, part of the reason is when a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she is doing something that most women can do but choose not to. What does that say about that her that most women could do what she is doing but choose not to, but she instead chooses to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:37 AM
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I mean women are not a bunch of idiots who allow for one-sided interactions. If the guy is high value enough, yes they will enter one sided interactions with him. But his attractiveness makes up for him not contributing anything else You are literally designed to share food for sex. It's your function and your instinct. Accept it, embrace it. This is true for men who are not attractive enough or charismatic enough to be players. They have no choice but to use that sexual strategy. But it's not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:31 AM
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Well we live in a free country so yes they're allowed to do that but that doesn't mean that they're actions don't have consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:06 AM
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So you agree with my thesis then? That a male player is man who gets sex without having to put in much investment or commitment and a female player is a woman who gets investment and commitment without having to give up sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:04 AM
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Well no, whether or not she is attractive and charismatic is irrelevant, technically speaking. The only criteria she needs to meet to be considered a player is that she receives the time, commitment, attention, resources, etc of other men whilst not giving them sex in return. Now of course attractive and charismatic women are more likely to be able to do this. But just being attractive and charismatic alone doesn't make you a player. I don't think I ever said that it's hard to be attractive and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:02 AM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:16 PM
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These are good points, I agree. Man that Instagram model looks so artificial..but I respect the hustle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:11 PM
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I think I understand where our disagreement is coming from. We are using different definitions for the term female player. In my post, my original argument was that for women, sleeping with a lot of men does not make a woman a female player in the same way that it would for a man. That's what I'm referring to when I say that female players do not exist. You are saying that female players do exist but that they can be defined as women who get a man's resources without giving him sex. Yes I agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:21 AM
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Because we're men. That is how we evaluate each other. I can't just choose not to care. And neither can he I might add. He almost certainly does care on some level, he's just choosing to accept the situation, likely because he has no better options. If "your" woman is giving out the goods to other men, then she is not your woman. I don't care what the relationship status is. And other men will not respect you for claiming a woman who is not exclusive to you. That's just how it is. That's just ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:54 AM
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I would define a female player this way: A male player is man who gets sex without having to put in much investment or commitment and a female player is a woman who gets investment and commitment without having to give up sex So I guess instagram models would fall into this category. But honestly this sort of feels more like a job to me. Instagram models don't just sit around and do nothing all day. I know it looks easy from the outside but it actually takes a lot of work to maintain they're bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:43 AM
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I'm not saying that players are people with good social skills. Read my comment again. I thought that's what you were saying and I was disagreeing with you lol I think we could maybe phrase it like this: A male player is a man who gets sex without having to put in much investment or commitment and a female player is a woman who gets investment and commitment without having to give up sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:29 AM
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I think we can define it like this A male player is man who gets sex without having to put in much investment or commitment and a female player is a woman who gets investment and commitment without having to give up sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:24 AM
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No I only say that based on my personal experiences. But its also something I've heard time and again so I thought it was generally accepted as true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:57 AM
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When I google hot girl summer, what comes up is: " to describe being confident, having fun and not caring what others think" That doesn't exactly spell out women admiring other womens exploits
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:55 AM
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Well it depends on the content being made. At best it's softcore porn. That is, at the very least, borderline sex work. So its in the ballpark, but people will disagree on whether or not it is actually sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:50 AM
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Haha this actually made me laugh I mean, like I said to the poster above, it is generally understood amongst the male population that "sharing" your girl with other men is an embarrassment and will cause you to lose respect. This is why cuckolds are such a laughing stock. And why Will Smith was so heavily ridiculed when it came out that he let his wife sleep with other men. I didn't make the rules. This is just the reality of our gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:47 AM
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It is generally understood amongst the male population that "sharing" your girl with other men is an embarrassment and will cause you to lose respect. I don't expect you to understand this as a woman. This is why cuckolds are such a laughing stock. And why Will Smith was so heavily ridiculed when it came out that he let his wife sleep with other men. I didn't make the rules. This is just the reality of our gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:37 AM
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No she does not get a dinner, what the hell are you talking about lmfao. Theat's nice guy behavior. The player just invites her over and they have sex Sure she she gets an orgasm, but that's no skin off the players back. He's still getting what he wants. Just because she enjoys the sex doesn't mean he's not a player. Not sure why you would think that. He's not giving up anything in the transaction, generally speaking. He's getting sex with minimal to no investment. That's what makes him a player…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:32 AM
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Yes there are exceptions but they do not invalidate the rule. Not every woman, or even most women, like casual sex. Are you trying to say that the majority of women like and engage in casual sex? Because I'm not sure I believe that When men talk about being used, they usually mean a woman was using them for their resources. I.e "I took her on multiple dates and she didn't have sex with me". They aren't complaining about a woman using them for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:24 AM
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Yes there are men who are more relationship focused and there are women who are more sex focused. But by in large, men chase sex and women chase relationships. It's not a 50/50 divide here. It divides roughly amongst gender. Consider this scenario. If a woman were to tell a man "I don't want a relationship with you but I want to have sex with you on a regular basis", most men would accept that offer. However, if a man were to tell a woman "I don't want a relationship with you but I want to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:38 AM
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I don't disagree with what you wrote, per se But when I say player I'm more referring to women who sleep with a lot of men calling themselves players or wanting to be called players. Not that women are socially savy by default and naturally play the dating game well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:24 AM
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If a man is getting sex from a woman than he's not really getting played. That's the whole point. He's getting his end of the deal. For a woman, if she's getting a mans time, commitment, and resources, then she's not getting played. She's getting her end of the deal. oh I see why you’re having a hard time understanding , you seem to think that sex is something done TO a woman , not something a woman also chooses and actively participates/ gets pleasure in No, what I'm saying is that sex in and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:18 AM
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That still doesn't make her a player. He's still getting something out of it. He's getting to see her naked body, maybe her having sex with another person, etc. She's giving up something that in theory only her boyfriend or future husband should see. She's not unscathed in the transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:02 AM
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Hmm yeah I see your point. So we could maybe phrase it like this: A male player is man who gets sex without commitment and a female player is a woman who gets commitment without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:52 AM
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That is a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:48 AM
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Even if this was true, it is irrelevant because women do not envy or admire the exploits of other women. Women slut shame each other far more than men slut shame women. There is no female comradery here. So the point is moot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:46 AM
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A dentist and doctor have gone to through at least 12 years of grueling, difficult, high level schooling. This is something that the vast majority of people cannot do. What the hell are you talking about? We respect them because of how difficult it is to become one of them. They didnt just walk in from the street
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:40 AM
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You are somewhat correct. The situation I described does happen but the irony is, the moment a man gets rid of his other women he ceases to be the attractive man he was before. So he is no longer a prize and the woman will often lose interest In your scenario, I suppose you could define the female player as being the main girl in a players rotation. Though I'm not sure I would call her a female player at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:35 AM
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Being an influencer can actually a full-time job, they're not just sitting home doing nothing. It takes a lot of work to maintain your beauty and a huge following But I'm not entirely sure how this connects to my post. I was talking about women having many partners, not jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:28 AM
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Yes, but these are just her orbiters. It's common for women to have orbiters to some degree or another. I'm not sure I would call that a female player. After all, these aren't men that she gets weak in the knees for. She doesn't want to have their kids. She's just using them essentially
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:22 AM
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I think for men it's called oneitis?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:16 AM
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Right, the same goes for women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:00 PM
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I understand..but you do acknowledge that it takes two to tango don't you? They wouldn't be able to chase after these girls if these girls didn't say yes and allow these relationships to form. If you are really concerned about this issue, maybe it would be more effective to teach young women to say no to older men who ask them out? And do you believe that inter-generational relationships should be illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:55 PM
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Seriously? Doesn't that seem wrong to you? They are just as much to blame for these age gap relationships as the men are. But you choose to not hold them accountable at all and put 100% of the blame on the man? That doesn't seem right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:32 PM
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Yeah that's just wrong. If women aren't choosing you, that means you are doing something wrong and they are right not to choose you. The problem is you, not them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:13 PM
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Wait, so why do you judge the men in these relationships but not the women? Why doesn't anyone ever get mad at the young women for dating these(supposedly unattractive) way older men? No ever tells them to date men their own age
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:06 PM
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He does. I'm just saying that the woman needs to meet the minimum criteria of attractiveness before he starts to evaluate other parts of her like her personality, hobbies, etc. That doesn't mean those things don't matter at all. They just come after
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:02 PM
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Wait, do people on this sub argue that women should be forced to be with men they are not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:38 PM
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But do you judge the young women who actually do date older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:30 PM
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Wait what? Why is he not a high value man? How did you come to that conclusion? You think High Value Men don't care about physical attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:24 PM
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Because she is physically attractive. That is usually at the top of the priority list for a man. Everything else is secondary. Life experience? I don't think many guys specifically look for that in a woman. That sounds like something a woman looks for in a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:14 PM
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It's important to remember that unlike for us men, sex is not guaranteed to feel good for women. For a man, a girl can only be so bad in bed. Even the worst girl in bed will make a man orgasm. But for a woman, whether or not she has a good time depends on who she is having sex with and how good(and experienced) he is in bed. And the fact of the matter is, most men are mediocre at sex, if that even. Many women actually live out their lives believing that they do not enjoy sex. Or it may be slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:43 PM
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I'm just trying to help you see things from a different perspective, that's what this subreddit is about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:58 AM
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There was a time when people would have said the same thing about people of different races dating. "Would you not look twice at a white woman and a black man dating? Seems odd to me. Is it legal? Yes. Is it weird? YES. Most people agree with this." There was a time when people would have said the same thing about people of the same gender dating. "Would you not look twice at two men dating? Seems odd to me. Is it legal? Yes. Is it weird? YES. Most people agree with this." Just because most peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:24 AM
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Is an 18-year-old an adult or not? We give them the privileges and responsibilities of adults but then we turn around and say that they're brains aren't fully developed yet. Which is it? At this point, it seems like the most practical solution is to simply raise the age of adulthood to 25. Would you agree with that course of action?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:34 PM
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So an 18 year old girl is mature enough to choose who the president should be but isn't mature enough to choose who her boyfriend should be? That doesn't make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:32 PM
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Why doesn't anyone ever get mad at the women for dating these(supposedly unattractive) way older men? No ever tells them to date men their own age. I think they should be able to do what they want at the end of the day, but it's interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:06 PM
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Like I think it’s practical for him to get married if they want children because married fathers have much more legal rights and claim regarding the child Huh, I hadn't thought of that However! They should be 100% upfront with anyone they date and not lead them on! That’s the only part I take issue with. I see so many people with wasted years waiting on promises from people with no intention to ever really do it. That’s just evil. Yes I agree with you here. Women don't have a lot of time to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:11 AM
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as far as tangible benefits, i see less paperwork as a benefit. why hire a lawyer to mimic what the law already handles in depth and with ease? Because once you are married, you now carry the risk of losing half your wealth and paying alimony for the rest of your life in the event of a divorce, whereas before you did not carry that risk. And while this is more likely to happen to the man, this can happen to the woman as well. But of course, this is worst case scenario. i work in a trade that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:46 PM
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Yes I'm aware of common law marriage. I live in California so I'll be okay I assume you'd feel this way too if the woman was higher earning? Yes Do you expect to be in a LTR with someone with similar income? A bit lower? Dramatically lower? (Curious where your fear of financial loss comes from) I am someone who enjoys the finer things in life and building wealth is very important to me. Assuming things go according to plan, my wife's income will probably be much lower than mine Do you expect you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:43 PM
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Fair enough. But does this mean you agree with the OP's original post? That there isn't a practical reason for a guy to actually get married other than his wife wanting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:04 AM
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Have to go to work soon. I'll reply to your post later on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:54 PM
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Have to go to work soon. I'll reply to your post later on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:37 PM
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So you're saying the main reason a man should get married is too keep his wife from leaving him. So he's basically doing it to avoid a consequence rather than for any real benefit, which is a very big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:13 PM
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Are you a man who doesn't want marriage? Yes And would fear of loss pressure you into marrying someone? No However, I should state that I am okay with having the appearance of marriage. I understand that marriage is something that's very important to most women and something they may have been looking forward to since they were children. And if I truly love a woman, I do want to make her happy. So I'm okay with buying her a ring, having a wedding celebration with both of our families, referring …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:06 PM
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That's fair, but does this mean you agree with OP's original point that there's no real benefit for men? You say you'd prefer the stability of marriage, but this is about him not you. What does he get out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:20 PM
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getting married just makes a lot of that process streamlined. it’s idiot proof when your kids and their parents share the same last name. It’s automatic that your spouse can be on your insurance So the main benefit is that these miscellaneous benefits of varying importance, which can largely be had even without marriage, will require less paperwork to obtain? Fair enough I suppose men work more dangerous jobs on average than women, and are more likely to lose employment (and health benefits) fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:12 PM
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I added in another post, but besides the fact that we make about the same, we also make very good money It doesn't matter if you make "about" the same. The fact that you make even a little more than her means in the event of a divorce you will lose more since you're the primary earner As you get older, the quality of single people does drop as the "quality ones" get snatched and are already married. This applies to both men and women No not really. Men can date women younger than them, even much…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:23 PM
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So you agree with OP's assertion in his original post that there's no actual tangible benefit for men correct? We only do it so women wont leave. So we do it to avoid a consequence rather than for an actual benefit, which is a very big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:03 PM
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A lot of these answers apply to both committed LTR's and marriages, so it's true that you could get these benefits without marriage. The problem is that pretty much all high quality women I know want marriage, so if things aren't headed that way, we peace out So you admit that there's no actual tangible benefit correct? We only do it so women won't leave. So we really do it to avoid a consequence rather than for any actual benefit, which is a very big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:59 PM
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I don’t plan to take anything from my husband if the marriage falls through. And none of my friends do either. With all due respect, what a load of crap
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:44 PM
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You don't need a marriage for any of those things, you could just be boyfriend and girlfriend and have the exact same situation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:36 PM
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kids having the same last names as both parents is easier than not I don't think that's that big of a deal to be honest. My own mother didn't take my fathers last name even though they've been married for 27 years. Never bothered me in the slightest, and she could of course change her name if she wanted to ​ having spousal rights in case of a medical emergency is another big one You can actually designate anyone to be your "Medical Power of Attorney" by filling out paperwork, giving them the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:56 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree here. Kids seeing their parents love each other and work as a team and stick together through thick and thin, through the good times and the bad, is what makes them feel safe and secure, not a label. If two parents were married but didn't do the things listed above, the kids would not feel safe and secure. It's about behavior not labels
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:24 PM
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You could have just gotten a long term girlfriend, you didn't have to marry her. Marriage didn't actually bring you a tangible benefit as OP's original post states
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:09 PM
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How does being married bring more stability and structure than being boyfriend and girlfriend? You could still live together and do the exact same things a married couple could do. The only difference is the label
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 06:03 PM
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You can have all of those things while still remaining boyfriend and girlfriend. Marriage isn't required for any of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:54 PM
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If you don't want kids, marriage doesn't benefit you in a single way that you can't get outside marriage How does marriage even benefit you if you have kids? What's the difference between simply being boyfriend and girlfriend and having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:52 PM
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But all those intangible reasons can be obtained while still remaining boyfriend and girlfriend. So getting married doesn't really bring those intangibles, they're already there if you're in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:48 PM
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Just because you're not married doesn't mean you have to be single. You could just be boyfriend and girlfriend and get the same benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:46 PM
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But you don't need to get married to have a woman take care of your kids. You could theoretically be boyfriend and girlfriend and have the exact same experience your parents had. How did getting married actually change anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:34 PM
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If you see the same male behavior across different cultures and societies, then it has to be biological
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:30 PM
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If the studies you're talking about are self reported then they're practically meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:06 PM
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If it means pestering strangers for attention It's only "pestering" if she doesn't like you. If you're attractive and charismatic, she'll be happy you walked up to her and even give you signs to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:58 PM
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If you already know them and are familiar with them, it doesn't really count as approaching in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:21 PM
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