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West Elm Caleb didn't pretend to be exclusive with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:41 PM
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No. There are definitely age gaps where I'd side eye a relationship but a casual fling seems totally fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:54 PM
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Yes. Multidating rocks actually. Focusing on one person at a time makes you much more prone to trying to force a relationship that won't work just so you don't have to start over again. When you're dating multiple people and feel a strong desire to focus on one and drop the rest... that's often a pretty good sign that you've found a strong connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:53 PM

A lot of people like this end up doing solo poly or LAT (living apart together) relationships. An attractive woman in her thirties who has never had a serious relationship is someone who highly values her solitude and independence. Conventional serious relationships require cohabitation and making life plans around each other. These people often spend years going "what's wrong with me??" before they figure out that there are unconventional relationship structures that suit them better. If she ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:47 PM
6

I was in my mid-twenties and hot as balls during the period where I struggled the most. I was also a fucking mess emotionally and not hiding it well. I don't think it had anything to do with "shooting out of my league" appearance-wise. I did eventually get into a longterm relationship and the next time I was single in my early thirties I felt like suddenly most of them wanted commitment. My tastes didn't change, I got older and they stayed the same age so I was cougaring lightly but I think the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:52 PM

There are a lot of reasons to choose singlehood + fuckbuddies vs a committed relationship that have nothing to do with how hot the guy is. Do you want complete freedom or do you want love and support? So yeah, sometimes the freedom -- which may or may not include casual sex/dating/situationships -- is pretty nice. And that's what you're competing with. Can a relationship with you be better than independence + optional casual sex? If not, why should anyone date you when she could just do that ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:38 PM
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They don't like that women can reject them at all, which is why they whine endlessly about any reason a woman may have for rejecting a man and when they can't whine about the reason they whine about the method.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:57 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to get married in their early twenties, regardless of gender. It works out sometimes but the divorce rates for young couples are bad. It's also a bad idea to hope your youth will attract a lasting partner, since your youth is absolutely guaranteed to go away at some point, unless you die. It's like attracting a woman with money and hoping she'll be the breadwinner one day. Notably, my parents gave me the exact opposite advice. They met in their thirties …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:36 PM
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A lot of the guys are trying to scam the women, too, and that's a big part of why they go the sugar route instead of just seeing a sex worker, who would likely be more reliable but harder to scam or pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:04 PM
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So woe-is-me bullshit, like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:45 PM
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Mostly they don't care because they were doing the same thing. If anything, they find it relatable. People with very unrestricted sociosexuality tend to pair off together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:07 PM
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I s2g this shit is all wishful thinking from guys who had casual sex a couple times and need to make themselves feel special about it. Good chance you were just some woman's "you'll do" when she was drunk and horny, she's barely thought about you since, and if you tried for a relationship she'd be uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:07 AM
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Nah. This is just something guys tell themselves to feel special if they've ever had even a drop of casual pussy or to do some woe-is-me bullshit if not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:09 PM
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Not really. Maybe women who almost never have casual sex and need extra temptation to make it worth their while? But high bodycounts are highly concentrated in small groups for both sexes. The sluts hook up with people they find attractive and get into relationships with guys they meet hooking up. The Venn diagram is concentric circles with relationship guys being the smaller circle. Source: am degenerate with a degenerate friend group. Unlike the guys making these claims, I have actually had ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:27 PM
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You can really tell who in this comment section has actually had to end a relationship and who just fantasizes about how powerful they think it would make them feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:09 PM
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Neckbeards and pedo staches are style choices that many people dislike. They make fun of TERF bangs and bad highlights on women, too. You don't really face major social/professional consequences for any of the above, except that maybe people find you unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:13 PM
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"for sure" based on your own imagination lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:06 AM
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No, the hot girls do it for each other, too. It's just not typically a necessary service for the unattractive one in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:11 AM
2

I've never once had a friend cock block a guy from talking to me when I didn't want her to do that. I've had it happen several times when I very much wanted the help. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:09 AM
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Consider the source. The guys you hear this from are usually late-blooming squares. They struggle in their youth because they don't enjoy doing normal young person things and they freak out about their girlfriends doing normal young person things. Even fairly commitment-oriented young women typically want boyfriends who will party with them and not throw fits about instagram selfies. These men do better in their thirties because women in their thirties are less into doing young person things so …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:01 AM
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I'm not projecting, nor did I say anything about frequency. I don't think the vast majority of men are doing this. I am asking you to explain what precisely is going on with those men in your opinion. I for one would genuinely appreciate the insight. Please share!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:47 PM
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Okay, maybe some of them. But a lot of them are literally saying "you will die alone because of XYZ" and there's also a related phenomenon of men absolutely losing their shit over porn stars getting married. How would you explain those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:40 PM
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I've wondered about this a lot and the thing I wonder specifically is whether they actually believe it. I don't know if they do. I think they are very invested in us believing it and behaving however they want us to in order to avoid that fate. In general, I think a lot of men are under the impression that "behave exactly the way I personally think you should or you'll die alone" is a much more potent threat than it actually is. Related phenomenon: men who get absolutely enraged whenever porn st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:51 PM
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You must be fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:16 AM
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And then they get clingy with their hookers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:06 PM
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There are legal brothels in Nevada. They're confined to a very tiny geographical area but it's not like that one specific part of Nevada has radically different dating culture than the rest of the country. Prostitution is essentially decriminalized in a number of major US cities that have elected progressive DAs. The laws are on the books, but the DA's office declines to prosecute so there's not much reason to set up stings. Again, no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:30 PM
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If "society" can't handle two people having non-commital but friendly sex then society should be done. But people have been doing exactly that for a very long time now and the sky hasn't fallen yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:39 AM
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Yeah I had a genuinely very lovely year-long situationship and this was pretty much it. It was like having half a boyfriend, which was the exact amount of boyfriend I wanted at the time. After the fact we confirmed that we'd both thought about trying for something more serious, and we were both pretty sure the answer would be yes, but neither of us ever pulled the trigger on that conversation... which is probably a sign that we simply didn't have the type of chemistry/compatibility for an actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:51 PM
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Exactly. IDK what his insta story looked like, I get why she might want to check rather than just assume. Honestly shows good communication on her part. I think it's insanely dumb when couples fight because one of them began exclusivity earlier than the other without any discussion. She has now side-stepped that issue completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:15 PM
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She wants to know where she stands. Now she knows she's free to see other men and you can't complain about it later. She may or may not know that you would like to pursue something seriously with her. She wouldn't be unreasonable to think you only want something very casual. If you're worried, you should probably clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:42 PM
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In order to start detachment process you need to arrive at a decision of detaching. No you don't. It can really creep up on you. Often it's not even conscious. Sometimes it is but you still think it could be fixable so hope for the best and prepare for the worst. It's "women dump men over frivolous things and throw away their relationships too easily" until it's "women are evil for not dumping their partners the second the thought crosses their minds." The real complaint is that women can leave …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:57 PM
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They're not faking it, though. They just take a while to fully detach and don't breakup until they're at least most of the way there. Like imagine you had a wonderful loving relationship with a wonderful person. Things start going wrong. You know they can treat you well and you know your relationship can be great. The person tells you they love you and they want to improve things too. You're trying. You think they're trying too. At what point, precisely, do you decide it's not happening? Add in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:13 PM
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My boyfriend is worse at directions than anyone I've ever met. He laughs about it, doesn't pretend he knows where he's going, and lets me navigate. He's competent in other areas. It's fine. He's never had much trouble getting dates, hookups, or long-term relationships. It would be a massive turn-off if he insisted on taking the lead anyway, got us lost, and refused to believe me or consult google maps. He doesn't do that shit, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:49 PM
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TBH I think a lot of people who claim they love clear communication don't actually. Indirect communication gives plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:17 AM
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I very explicitly told my ex, "I will leave if you do XYZ." He did XYZ and was genuinely surprised when I dumped him. He figured I hadn't left yet, so I wouldn't. He was surprised because he'd convinced himself I was bluffing, not because I was unclear. I think there are a lot of situations where one person is trying their hardest to fix the relationship and the other person is thinking, "oh yes, partner will whine about [issue] every so often but she'll never actually leave." No, she just hasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:38 PM
1

I've literally had a man do this to me on a date and it was fine. We both realized there was no chemistry there and I was kinda grateful that he politely ended it so I didn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:04 PM
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Most rapists get away with it and will never make it onto any sex offender registry. Most victims don't even report, and male victims report even less. Cops are famously crappy about rape victims in general, I doubt they're any better about male victims and there's a good chance they'll be worse. Think about the most macho asshole you know and imagine telling him you got raped by a woman. SVU is a lie. ACAB. Some men have this idea that women can go to the cops and mumble something vague about r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:46 PM
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Multi-dating rocks and people who expect exclusivity without a conversation are weenies. Dating/hooking up with multiple people at once is a more efficient way to find a good match. I'm not sexist about this and what's more I don't think this is actually a common double standard. Even the post you're citing doesn't say anything negative about men doing the same thing. Actually, I've seen people justify this behavior for men specifically because they "need sex more" or whatever. Bullshit. That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:25 AM
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Yes, early on, but he didn't actually care and was just curious. Mine is very high, his is pretty high too. He'd have been a little weirded out if I'd told him a super low number. We slept together like 2 hours after meeting, which is probably a factor in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:02 PM
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Charisma, alcohol, and women who are generally open to casual sex. The last one is the one a bunch of guys here don't seem to get. They think women are all sleeping around a bunch but only with Chad or whatever. Most of them aren't. If you're putting your efforts into a woman who doesn't typically have casual sex, you might get romantic interest but you're unlikely to be the exception to the rule. Put the same effort into a woman who does routinely have casual sex and there's a good chance you'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:44 AM
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It actually rocks that none of those men will be able to pass their attitudes onto their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:23 AM
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Stop pursuing prude women for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:17 AM
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Why would I risk spending months getting all emotionally invested in a guy only to discover that he sucks in bed? Cool, now I have commitment from a man who sucks in bed, that's not actually a thing that I want. On the other hand if we have great sex from the get-go and he decides I'm not relationship material because of how fast it happened... then I had great sex and I dodged a relationship with a weird hypocrite. If it's mid I just ghost and we both waste minimal time. OR we fuck each other's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:13 PM
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It's not just "not believing in love" it's not even believing in like. Not having much experience with dating or relationships is one thing, having never liked a member of the opposite sex on a personal level is just... bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:28 PM
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Most of the guys here have never had a relationship and a lot of them have never even been on a date. Everything they know about the process comes from red pill influencers. That's why so many of them seem to think that dating is essentially a D&D game where everyone has stats and everyone agrees on what those stats mean. Also, a lot of the men here absolutely despise women and can't really imagine that they might genuinely like a woman. They're so obsessed with weirdo gender wars stuff that I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:02 PM
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Porn addiction is fake and dating is fine for people who aren't bottom-of-the-barrel. Neither of the things you're talking about are real societal problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:01 PM
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A lot of the "porn bad" crowd has a "porn tolerated but paying for it is cheating" policy in their relationships. These people are morons and I hope they all get cheated on for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:49 PM
1

There's an interesting phenomenon where women will endure very bad treatment and then leave over it only once the dust has settled and the issue is mostly resolved. I've read a bunch of r/relationships posts along the lines of "my spouse was horrible to me but got better and now I'm leaving him because I can't get over it." People in crisis mode are not at their most rational. When the crisis is over and she's had time to process she realizes she should have left -- and often corrects her mistak…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:52 PM
0

I know women who have been cheated on AND experienced pretty severe domestic violence without becoming man-haters. And a bunch of those were "my friend got cheated on." Not them! Not their parents either so it didn't break up their family or anything. At most they had to comfort a friend, which sucks, but doesn't give you an excuse to lose all perspective -- especially since men cheat too, and more. So you agree the guy who got redpilled because he saw a hot guy got attention is a moron?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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Yes. Every time there's a thread on "what was your redpilling moment?" half the answers are shit like "a woman cheated" and "I noticed that a hot guy got a lot of attention." If women having normal desires and flaws was enough to change their entire worldview then, by definition, their original worldview was absolutely fucking dumb as shit. The more I read from redpillers the more I'm convinced that intellectual disabilities/below-average intelligence explain a large portion of followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:11 PM
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I think we very fundamentally disagree here, and I can't think of any way to actually prove the popularity of these women. In my experience, girl game is usually acting exactly the way you describe as "attractively masculine" but pairing it with a very femme exterior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:00 AM
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Yeah, a few will be threatened. The overwhelming majority, not so much. Every time I've known a woman who routinely seemed to punch above her weight she had all the things you're describing here as "attractively masculine." I can say that I consciously adopted a lot of those personality traits and immediately started getting vastly more attention and interest from men. I look hyper-femme, so they never read it as masculine. They just thought I was fun and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:54 AM
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No, I'm saying that a woman with these particular "masculine" traits would have an advantage over women without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:46 AM
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Fair enough, that's actually a pretty reasonable way to define those terms. I will reiterate, however, that a woman with the personality traits you describe as "attractively masculine" would be very unlikely to struggle romantically, even if unattractive. The same is not true of unattractive women with (what you define as) feminine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:39 AM

Most violence against women is not committed by strangers so I actually doubt you'd see a dramatic difference. A lot of female-specific safety advice essentially boils down to "arrange your entire life around avoiding stranger rape, the least common type of rape." The opportunity cost is high as hell and odds are you'd experience exactly the same amount of violence by not doing any of that. I say this as a petite woman who has ignored most of this advice very consistently throughout my adult lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:13 PM
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It's that the alleged "asshole" is presenting as bold, assured, sociable, playful, outgoing, non-neurotic, and uninhibited. A.k.a. he is presenting as attractively masculine. It's not that he's "mean" or a "bully" or "disrespectful unprovoked to people." It's that he's the bolded things. I actually 100% agree with you but my one quibble is that this behavior is not masculine. There's nothing inherently masculine about any of it and women with these traits do great too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:40 PM
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An unmarried woman over the age of 25 is considered a “left behind” woman. However, they also have one of the highest divorce rates in the world. Yes, this is what happens when you encourage young marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:33 AM

You're SOL with me, that's for sure. But I'm a lot more interested in casual sex than the average woman. Contrary to redpilled masturbatory fantasies, the average woman is having little to no casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:04 PM
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I think people will just arrange to meet in person sooner rather than later, which is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:17 PM
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I've said this before -- Most people who are very unpleasant and transparently awful don't do well romantically. Some of them do. They're usually very good at finding partners who either suck as much as they do or (more common tbh) have trauma/mental health issues that make them vulnerable. If your least pleasant acquaintance is perpetually single, you don't think much of it because that checks out. If your lovely and kind friend has an adoring partner, again, that makes sense. But when your shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:15 PM
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If there is little or no difference, what's the point of getting married as opposed to serial monogamy or friends with benefits? Are you aware that people decide to enter into relationships/marriages based on more factors than just sex? Genuine question. All my boyfriends started as hookups. We had unusually great sexual chemistry but if we hadn't aligned on a lot of non-sexual stuff they would have stayed hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:47 PM

So you're saying that men will do anything for someone they find attractive. Idk maybe this is just projection? (JK, I don't believe men do this either, unless they are very desperate and naturally submissive. Horny people have boundaries too.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:10 PM

Most people have things they want besides an attractive partner. Most people will do and tolerate more for someone they're really into -- maybe even a lot more -- but that's not gender-specific and it pretty much never means they'll do "anything" including things they very much do not want to do. That's not how humans work. Someone who is doing a lot of things she doesn't enjoy for someone she really likes will eventually realize that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. The average female dater i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:10 AM
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No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:56 PM
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"Women will do absolutely anything you want if they're actually attracted to you" is a psy-op designed to turn struggling young men into angry losers who will never figure out their shit and have a normal dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:47 PM
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If he loves her and her kid, finds her attractive, and is happy -- is that not success? Or is he supposed to live his life to please some angry dudes on the internet who will never meet him or love him or fuck him? Sounds lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:45 PM
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I don't. I had a great time dating. Never found the initial stages of dating to be the hard part. I get that not everyone feels the same about that, but I don't think everyone agrees with you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:43 PM
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I didn't? I just promised myself real hard that I would bounce quickly the next time a relationship went bad. Haven't tested my resolve on that one yet because my next relationship continues to go great to this day. Definitely should have dumped both those exes a lot sooner and I 100% stand by that. I gained nothing by staying and in retrospect my reasons for staying were not smart ones. The interim hookups were fun though, I also stand by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:45 AM
1

Unfortunately, dating people is how you learn whether they're actually the best option. The trick is to leave when you figure out that they're not -- and historically I've been pretty bad at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:53 PM
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Relationships are portrayed as the "smart, responsible" choice while hookups/casual dating are portrayed as the risky choice. Yeah, in terms of STIs and maybe in terms of wasted time if you want kids but wildly less risky in terms of pretty much everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:09 PM
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I always had night dates (in public) and it was fine. I went on a lot of dates and didn't really screen much. I don't think daytime provides all that much protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:01 PM
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I'm genuinely not trying to be mean or patronizing but that sounds really sad. You seem very self-aware about the root cause of your feelings, but it seems like you haven't gone so far as to question your conclusions. Am I reading that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:41 PM
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he would have neck tattoos Oh heavens! Neck tattoos! What horror! Like gosh y'all really just think anyone who isn't an uptight STEM nerd is fundamentally a bad person. If I had to choose between a guy with a neck tattoo and a guy who thinks tattoos are a sign of being evil I'm choosing neck tattoo every time. His grasp on reality is stronger and he's definitely a lot more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:04 PM
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I hooked up plenty and still spent most of my twenties in longterm relationships. Most of my friends were the same. I don't regret the years I "wasted" hooking up and having fun. I do very much regret the years I wasted on those boyfriends. Honestly I think I'd be better off if I'd dumped both of them way earlier than I did and spent those years hooking up instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:29 PM
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I am reasonably sure he means any man who isn't a spineless incompetent loser. Ergo, women are naturally submissive because we don't flock to spineless incompetent losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:35 PM
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I wasn't just sitting there, I tried to talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:44 AM
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Dominance and confidence are not the same thing. No, you don't need a "leader" in a relationship. That's bullshit invented by stupid man-babies who pitch a fit every time they don't get their way and need a somewhat legit-sounding excuse as to why they should always get their way. Two compatible, mature adults can figure their shit out just fine. If that sounds impossible... I have bad news about your personality. The women who want "leaders" and the women who don't like being bossed around are …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:57 AM
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I had a few days by myself in the Bay Area and went out to bars solo thinking people would talk to me because I was an attractive woman in my mid-twenties and I was used to people talking to me in bars. They wouldn't talk to me either. Even the men! Pod culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:43 AM
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It's fine regardless of gender. If the prudes wanna scream about it they can but I don't know why you'd bother paying attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:23 PM
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there's a reason men are defending themselves Yes, it's because they're hoping someone argues with them so they get to feel like manly men sticking to their principles in the face of feminism. That's a fetish and I've hit my limit on catering to it for free. Try sext panther.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:12 AM
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If you complain you can't find people who meet your standards people are gonna tell you to lower your standards, improve yourself, or stop complaining. But people are a lot less likely to say that shit if your standard is avoiding single parents because you ending up with a stepkid you resent is bad for everyone involved, especially the innocent potential stepkid. No one's making you date anyone. But thin women without children definitely exist, so if none of them are interested in you that's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:07 AM
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That has nothing to do with anything I said. Are you sure you're responding to the right person?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:28 AM
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Literally no one thinks that blended families are super easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:58 PM
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The only people complaining are single moms who are frustrated by dating and like 95% of them are just saying things like "dating as a single mom is so hard" that you are interpreting as "men who don't date single mothers are bad." No one's making you date single moms and the vast majority of people -- including single moms -- completely understand your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:51 PM

I remember my college roommates being absolutely shocked that every time we went out and I spotted a guy I was interested in he would inevitably end up approaching me after not too long. They couldn't tell that I was doing anything at all to invite it because I was literally just making eye contact. The thing is that it almost always worked, because most men are highly capable of recognizing that particular sign of interest. Is something not "abundantly clear" if 95% of men interpret it correctl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:48 PM
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Polyamorists tend to be lefties, and the crowd here is conservative. Terps pretend to be motivated by sexual success, but are actually much more motivated by male validation. A man who achieves the first but not the second needs to be torn down in order to maintain that fiction. So they decide it doesn't count because his partners are fat and fucking other men. Meanwhile he has two girlfriends and regular threesomes and these (often more objectively attractive) nerds are posting on PPD about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:52 PM

But I don't understand, I thought women could sense "bad people?" I didn't say that. Stop projecting other people's arguments onto me. There's a difference between bad people and unpleasant people, although obviously there's some overlap. People are also enormously variable in their ability to sense or hide bad intentions. There's no just world fallacy here. Some nice people are awkward in a way that makes them no fun at all and they're gonna have a terrible time dating. That's not "unfair" beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:46 AM

The question is "why is chemistry ignored on this sub specifically" and that's the answer. Abusive men use a variety of tactics, many of which involve emotional manipulation. Major love bombing early on creates a strong emotional connection and causes the victim to become invested faster than they otherwise would. So yeah, more 'intangibles' at play there than just D&D stats. A lot of the dumber redpilled ideas about dating seem to rest on the fantasy that abusive men have success because they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:57 AM

Because deeply unpleasant people need to pretend they're being discriminated against solely on their looks, and heterosexual men who dislike women have a difficult time understanding the concept that most people date in hopes of finding a person they actually like. Also most of these guys have literally never been on a date and only know about dating from their redpill content so they have really weird ideas about how most people actually approach dating. Like they think it's some kind of dungeo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:02 PM
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Conservative crowd here. They're saying it because it's true for them and possibly their friends as well. You also see guys making dumb claims that men are universally repulsed by promiscuous women but IRL a whole lot of them do not give a single shit. It might true for the guys making those statements and it's probably true of their friends (although likely at least a little less true than they may think) but that doesn't make it a good generalization. Just people in bubbles who don't realize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:35 PM
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I don't want to be a "good lay" for some woman who forgets I exist after 6 months, so that's what I'm concerned with. Because that's all I can be directly involved in. Easy peasy, just don't have casual sex. Problem solved. The woman you seriously dated and formed an emotional connection with will remember you as more than just a good lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:20 PM
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Have you heard how some men talk about hookups? Like not all of them, and not all women -- but I'd bet good money it's more men than women using that type of language. At the end of the day though it's much rarer to hear that kind of language from people who actually fuck. You'll hear it from the incels jerking off about "women letting Chad use them like fleshlights" and similar language from women talking shit about more promiscuous women. The people who are actually having all that sex are usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:13 PM
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I mean yeah? That chick I was friends with for a couple months but haven't spoken to in years isn't that important to me either. It's not a bad thing. It's just a thing. You want your penis to have changed her life, which is a deeply silly thing to want from a casual connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:07 PM
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you can think back on someone fondly but rarely without considering them a non-person, what an utterly silly complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:00 PM
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Can confirm. Why is it disturbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:10 AM
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Idk, I never found the initial stages of dating that taxing? Get a drink, have a conversation, bang if you wanna, keep doing it if it's fun. By the time you get to the hard stuff they're not a stranger anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:30 AM
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I then asked how one ought to flirt and potentially enter relationships at work I mean yeah, it makes sense to be a little more careful and take things slowly if you're working together, even if that's not how you'd conduct yourself with someone you met at a party or a bar. There's a lot more risk if things go wrong. It's a good idea to get to know each other outside work and escalate from there. It's a good idea for you too even if you'd prefer to hookup willy-nilly and deal with the consequenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:40 PM
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To each their own -- although it's a bit disingenuous to talk about how "accepting bar dates is a red flag" and then do a passive aggressive emoticon about how I "don't speak for everyone" -- but it seems like more effective "self-preservation" to put yourself in a situation where you can bounce easily when you're meeting someone you don't know and might not like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:46 AM
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People who refuse to discuss exclusivity but also expect it are weenies. I don't care about your gender. I do not see the point of playing a stupid game where you both have to divine the right time to begin monogamy and then get upset at each other if your guesses don't align. A lot of times it's just cowardly -- "I have big feelings but I'm scared to express them so you're going to need to read my mind and do what I want or my fee-fees will get hurt." Coming from men I think it's often disingen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:17 PM
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Dive bar dates rock, you can leave in a hurry or hang out all night depending on the chemistry. When I was dating I never wanted to do anything more serious for a first date. I didn't need a big "investment" at that stage -- and frankly I didn't want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:56 PM
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She manipulated him with her gaze lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:14 PM
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They spout a whole lot of silly stuff about how "she'd do it for Chad" so any time a woman says no to anything it's taken as proof that she's "not attracted" and "just settling." The point is to turn men into tremendously insecure walking red flags who react terribly to boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:00 PM
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Even the actual sluts don't do that. My friend group is degenerate as hell, most of us slept around a bunch while single, most of us still spent more time in longterm relationships than not, most of us ended up settling down with guys we met hooking up. If you've ever heard the term "insecurity farming" that's what pretty much all these red pill influencers are doing. They want their followers to be insanely neurotic so they sabotage any potential relationships and stay single. Men who are in ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:28 AM
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Is this "submission" or is it just a healthy relationship with an equal amount of give and take?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:30 PM
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The same reason men say it about women. Because some people really are like that, and some assholes are really good at finding those people, and that's why you see awful people getting pined over and treated well. It's not gendered, nor is it universal, nor is it even wildly common. But it's striking and you remember it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:42 AM
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30s/female/in a relationship Nah. They should go with whatever timeline they and their partners are comfortable with. I would hate to invest 90 days into someone only to discover that he sucks in bed. I fully get why guys don't want to do that either. Also fucking around is fun and filters out the prudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:08 PM
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I mean yeah? The last one maybe not but the others are normal and reasonable things to ask during sex. A man who is afraid to ask what feels good to me when we are literally having sex because he thinks it'll come off as insecure is somehow supposed to be the better lay here? Am I supposed to view him as less insecure than the guy who is actually able to communicate about sex like an adult? Because no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 09:12 PM
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Then don't have a kid. Or do IVF. Have kids in a poly relationship because she'll understand and want to check too. Adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:56 PM
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I read a study once that said people with very jealous partners cheat more. Like obviously there's some chicken-or-egg stuff there but at the end of the day people who have a lot of rules about what they can do/how they can socialize/what they can wear still find ways to cheat and do so at a higher rate than people without those rules. The rules amount to security theater. They make you feel better but they do absolutely jack shit and are arguably counterproductive. So why do them? Either date s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:07 PM
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Yeah, this is what I've seen as someone with a pretty liberal-minded friend group where pretty much everyone hooks up while single. Most people know the score and are fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:26 AM
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That's just basic dating strategy. The only people who call it "manipulation" are edgelords who want to pretend they're master manipulators when they're literally just normal reasonably competent daters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:14 PM
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It's not "for mutual benefit" if the woman is looking for a committed relationship and he's actively implying/letting her believe that they're in one or will be despite no intent to follow through. Bullshit excuse, like I said. If it's just about creating attraction, I'd argue that's not actually manipulation at all, or at least not in the sense I'm talking about. That's just putting your best foot forward and not being offputting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:32 PM
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Yes, manipulation works, that's why people do it. A woman who is willing and able to be manipulative in her dating relationships will very likely be rewarded for that too. Every time I see a screed about how it's okay for men to behave manipulatively because women reward it I wonder how that guy feels about women who string along multiple men for financial gain and nice dinners while sleeping with hot guys on the side. Like are they just as cool with it or do they have some bullshit excuse about…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:24 PM
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Movement started by women who naturally focus on their own issues but they do talk about men too, and kind of a lot. Every time a new MCU actor drops his insane workout routine they get all up in arms about the message it's sending to young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:09 PM
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I mean yeah, you date until you find someone you don't get bored with. That's how that works? It's fine. I also would push back on the idea that most relationships end due to "boredom" or "social media." You are merging your lives in a way that requires high compatibility in several areas in order to be functional -- most people, even most good people, are not going to be good matches. You figure that out by spending time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:58 PM
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Porn addiction isn't real either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:40 PM
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Both can be true!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:36 PM
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It seems like he just doesn't like sex very much and assumes that other men dislike sex as much as he does. It also seems like he just completely made up that statistic about how men who use vibrators are less sexually satisfied, unless I'm somehow missing it in the linked article.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:32 PM
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The study you linked doesn't appear to say that men who use vibrators experience less satisfaction? Where does it say that? This one linked in related articles says the opposite. Men who had used vibrators recently also scored higher on four of the five domains of the International Index of Erectile Function (erectile function, intercourse satisfaction, orgasmic function, and sexual desire). Anyway, it's fine, you don't have to use vibrators if you hate them so much. A lot of women are going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:48 PM
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Yeah, I did see that. What a totally normal response to reading an internet comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:12 PM
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Yeah, they're nasty people who are going to go through life sexually frustrated and unloved -- which is the best possible outcome for the women who might otherwise dated/fucked them if they were just a bit less socially unpleasant. I feel slightly bad for some of them but a lot of them 100% deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:40 PM
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I am wildly less sympathetic to men who struggle with dating than I used to be as a result of reading their posts about it. Least persuasive people alive, no wonder they can't talk anyone into fucking them. Greatest hits: The guy bitching about "unreasonably picky" women turning him down due to his virulent homophobic views. The guy who wrote a post about how dating is sooo hard for average guys like him and then mentioned in the coments that he had no friends and didn't want any because he cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:08 PM
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Crap shoot, tbh. A lot of the women who go for older men like them because they're more experienced so you're not what they're looking for, even if they're fine with your age. Plenty of experienced women will be cool about it. Age/experience is not the main factor in how someone will react to that information, and focusing on it is counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:29 AM
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The life experience gap ends up being a bigger concern than the sexual experience similarity is a comfort. "Look for younger women who are as inexperienced as you are" is exactly what I'd tell an inexperienced old guy if I wanted him to remain unfucked forever. A man who has never done well with women deciding to narrow his chances by excluding women his own age who have had normal sex lives... okay, buddy, lemme know how that works out for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:27 AM
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I've stayed in shitty relationships and it wasn't that I preferred them to being alone. It was that I wasn't ready to give up. I loved the person, things had been great at one point, and I foolishly hoped things would be great again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:07 PM
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I mean I def am capable of feeling visceral lust but a lot of my hookups were more motivated by general horniness rather than lust for the specific person. Like there had to be some kind of attraction there but I would go seek out attractive people because I wanted a hookup as opposed to being inspired to have a hookup I wasn't seeking just because someone was so hot. Def slept with some you'll-dos.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:22 PM
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Lol no. I'm one of the people who loves hookup culture and will actively pursue casual sex whenever I'm single. I have an unfortunate track record of staying in relationships past their expiration date. I wish the lure of hookup culture had been enough to keep me from doing that. I would have definitely been happier dumping those guys to have casual sex. In a happy relationship now and FWIW don't really miss it. Sex is not drugs, "sex addiction" is mostly bullshit, you're spouting pseudoscience …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:12 PM
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It's pretty common for poly/kink events to be alcohol-free, that would have been my suggestion too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:48 AM

They were the first generation to grow up with true surveillance. Our phones didn't have location tracking and our parents didn't know how to work internet blockers. They got all that stuff plus Elf on the Shelf and now they all have cops in their heads. The holding off on kids thing is definitely financially motivated. Less pressure to reproduce is prob part of the equation, but a relatively small part. Most people who want kids know they're gonna need two solid incomes to do that comfortably s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:19 PM
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Idk, I don't know what level any of those people were diagnosed at. Some of them were attractive, one of them notably was not. They mostly just did pretty well at finding social groups that accepted their quirks and cultivating those friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:03 PM
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Because people feel understandably weird about openly wishing their kids didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:47 PM
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My Boomer parents met in their mid-thirties and still adore each other. They attribute at least some of their success to having lived very rich, full lives before meeting -- so when they found each other they knew who they were and what they wanted and they'd gotten most of their yayas out. I was always told to play the field and not settle down too young. Honestly great advice, I followed it and am very happy with how it turned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:46 PM
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Right? I know lots of people who put off marriage and kids but were in serious cohabitating relationships for years with plans to do all that eventually -- and often, they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:43 PM
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Tbf I know multiple actually diagnosed autistic people who have good social lives and dating histories. It's literally a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:55 AM
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Don't try to be friends with women if you wouldn't be genuinely happy with just friendship. It's a waste of effort and there's a high chance it'll end with you mad at each other. Some women legit don't date without being friends first. I think some men get frustrated at how difficult it is to game the system without potentially wasting a lot of effort and don't really understand that that's by design. These women do not want men who don't genuinely appreciate them on a platonic level, and they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:05 AM
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Tbh I think a lot of the conversation about neurodivergence on this sub specifically is just a bunch of self-diagnosed "autistics" being ableist against themselves. I don't even think most of them are actually autistic. I think this is less "autistic men are lazy" and more "lazy neurotypical men who are slightly awkward have decided they're autistic as an excuse." Not all of them but like... a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:01 PM
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Who tf is ashamed to tell people they go to the gym? Insanely neurotic. No one will think you're "aggressive" because you enjoy working out. Lots of people work out and most people who work out consistently enjoy it on some level, because the ones who hate it rarely maintain a gym habit. Women work out too (just as much or slightly more, depending on which study you're reading) so it's not even like going to the gym is a male-specific thing. What a weird made-up problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:55 PM
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So you'd date someone who posted man-hating screeds on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:05 AM
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I don't assume you run around screaming these things in real life. I do believe that your beliefs would make you a terrible partner, and I think the women who are rejecting you are dodging a bullet regardless of their reasons. Like if you dump someone for having ugly socks and they turn out to be a serial killer you didn't not dodge a bullet. And you didn't answer my other question. Would you date someone who made comments like this about men, even if she just did it anonymously on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:58 AM
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So you're saying that yes, we should definitely avoid older virgin men at all costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:11 AM
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women's tendencies to gloss over their questionable behaviour by pinning it on the man and thus avoid any accountability for their actions. women do not actually LOVE men And one of the defining characteristics of women is that they are ruthless social climbers. You know, I have no idea why women are actually rejecting you, but they're 100% making a good decision even if it's for "shallow" reasons. You are unwittingly making an absolutely fantastic case for rejecting inexperienced men, here. I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:03 PM

Like 90% of the thing (conservatively) is just generosity and communication. People who actually care about being good in bed usually get there very quickly. The ones who have difficulty... just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:04 PM
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I mean yeah? I'm not one of the pearl-clutchers here, I don't think casual sex is intrinsically bad or unhealthy and what's more I think all the weird stuff about "soft harems" and "stringing women along for sex" is wildly less common than most of these fuckless prudes think it is. But also: the chick he lost it to thought he was lying and he's not the only fabulous lay to tell me a similar story. Like 90% of being good in bed is just generosity and communication. You don't really need to have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:49 PM
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I'm currently ring shopping with someone who fucked my brains out on our first date and has continued to do so ever since. It worked out great! If we hadn't aligned on important relationship stuff we would have had a bunch of really great sex and eventually gone our separate ways, which would have also been a pretty enjoyable outcome. Certainly better than getting emotionally invested in someone and having them turn out to be crap in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:05 PM
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I've totally ghosted guys who seemed pretty cool because they were lame in bed. If I really liked them (and the sex was only medium-lame, not an actual disaster) they got a second chance, but not a third.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:50 AM
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I honestly don't think most people align with a "pilled" conception of gender, because the pilled conception of gender is bullshit invented by stupid people, a lot of whom are men who don't actually interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:15 PM
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when they get a relationship the sex may still not happen or be uninspired with her calling the shots You can dump people over sexual compatibility! It's fine! She did not enter into a relationship with you in order to cater to all your sexual fantasies with no care for her own comfort levels or desires. She was hoping for a compatible partner who enjoys the things she enjoys on about the same frequency. If that's not you... just leave? That's not a problem with relationships, that's a problem w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:03 PM
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Yeah, duh. I'm just saying their reasons are usually not particularly logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:56 AM
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My least attractive ex is the only one who cheated on me, and it didn't happen until after he'd significantly let himself go. He was never fit but he wasn't fat when we met and still had most of his hair. Major weight gain and hair loss happened while we were together. He was two years younger than me, looked maybe a few years older when we got together and by the end people routinely assumed a significant age gap in the wrong direction. I was still the HL in the relationship. People don't cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:11 PM
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Bang one out with Jensen? Yeah, sure. Agree to this shit? Nah. The extramarital hookups seem like they're getting the better deal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:01 PM
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Most people trade some excitement for stability as they age. They just don't see it as some big stupid all-or-nothing trade. They find someone they like and find attractive who has the traits they need in a life partner. People also want less excitement as they age, so the wild child who was so much fun a decade ago is just exhausting now. Your question is why men complain about this, and the answer is very simple. They're a bunch of nasty little loses who want to complain about women. It is tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:46 PM
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He'd never know! He gets to live his little alpha male fantasy where he has a faithful wife and lots of hookups. I think it's nice of me to allow that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:35 PM
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Lol this guy would be so much fun to cheat on. I'd let my personal trainer cum all over his toothbrush guilt free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:51 AM
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I had loads of first-date hookups when I was dating and I wouldn't go to a man's house for a first date either! Bar close to one of our places was always the move. Easy to bail or escalate, depending on vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:50 AM
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When I did a lot of online dating it was pretty common for them to show up looking better in person, sometimes dramatically. I had a very attractive ex who used awful pics. We met in person and honestly I probably wouldn't have matched with him on an app with those photos. I can't imagine being so neurotic that I decide a person can't possibly be attracted to me because they didn't find me viscerally attractive based on objectively unflattering photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:50 PM
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I have been single for (conservatively) 4 months out of the last 7 years and if I listed my reqs you'd all call me delusional lolololol. I was single for a 2 year stretch in my mid-twenties and my standards weren't any higher -- actually might have been lower -- I was just Going Through It and really emotionally unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:02 PM
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Nah, blue collar guys are doing fine. And yet awkward STEM dudes are going "oh my god, my money isn't getting me laid, how much money do I need??" while never once considering that maybe it's not their finances that are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:35 PM
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I took a college class where we discussed a theory that women are seen as intermediaries between man and nature, due to menstruation and childbirth. I've always found that one interesting -- it explains the way a lot of men struggle to conceptualize women as full humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:03 AM
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If you're not a native speaker of those other languages it could be because the language barrier makes jokes hard and people are adjusting for that. But yeah, people want to spend their time with people who are fun to be around and humor is part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:15 PM
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source? Not a "heard a story about it once or twice" but can you in any way prove that this is a highly common phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:03 AM
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Are they, though? Like y'all say this like it's true but no one ever cites a single source other than "this woman who has previously had hookups did not hookup with her romantic partner" and that absolutely doesn't mean what you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:43 AM
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Personality and conversational skills can't be measured, and different people will like different things, but they're super important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:28 PM
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Maybe for women who don't routinely have casual sex because they need extra enticement to give it a go. And even for those women... the guys they sleep with when they're drunk and sad and in the mood to indulge in some rare casual sex often aren't exceptionally hot so much as they are at the right place at the right time. For women who do routinely have casual sex, the Venn diagram is concentric circles, with the smaller one being the boyfriends. All my boyfriends started as hookups. I absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:17 PM
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because most women sharing men would not be sharing men if they knew the truth about those men. Lol you can always tell who doesn't actually have casual sex because they say things like this. "Hookup culture" is a bunch of sluts sharing each other. The women have rotations of their own and don't care. High numbers of sexual partners are concentrated in a relatively small group, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:14 PM
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My last relationship got pretty awful near the end. We were both miserable and it was painfully obvious that I was no longer the person he wanted to be with. When I dumped him he cried and tried to talk me out of it. WHY BRO??? YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE ME ANYMORE. If you asked him now I'm pretty sure he'd say I did him a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:50 PM
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They're too socially maladjusted to understand people in any real way so they default to statistics and convince themselves they know more than people who have actual normal dating lives. They're tremendously dismissive of intangibles because they don't know how to fit them into their theory, and also because they don't want to admit the intangibles are a contributing factor to their lack of success. If "the spark" is purely about a guy being hot and rich, then not being able to find that with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:38 PM
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Because good relationships aren't good content. But also if you're talking about here specifically, this place has a lot of posters who are absolutely bottom-of-the-barrel and yet insist that they're "average guys" and that "average guys" are all having their same dating problems. It really behooves them to ignore any stories about how dating is fine, because acknowledging that dating is basically fine means acknowledging that they're not average. But yeah, dating is fine, it's never been awesom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:14 PM
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"I want a virgin because everyone else has too much baggage." "You don't want a virgin, so I assume you're going to abandon someone who struggles with mental health." Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:21 PM
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Not hive mind, just rational. Like most people would prefer not to date someone with severe mental health issues -- but some of them will. Most people would prefer not to date someone with major addiction issues -- but some of them will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:33 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/186t9lk/comment/kba4zdg/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:20 PM
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Not all men care about it all that much, and the ones who do may care for one of those reasons or any combination of the three. I cannot bother with this conversation if you can't bother with reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:19 PM
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Lmao there are multiple women in this comments section saying they'd prefer an inexperienced man. Why do you ignore them? And yes, one reason to prefer an inexperienced partner is creepy. I explicitly said that it doesn't apply to everyone who wants an inexperienced partner -- but it definitely applies to some of them and anyone who denies that is a naive little baby. It's dumb to think of a relationship as "failed" (or "traumatizing" lmao) just because it didn't last. Relationships are a skill,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:02 PM
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The male desire for a virginal/inexperienced partner comes from three places: fetishism, social pressure, and the ability to take advantage of a person who doesn't know what's considered "normal." Not all men care about it all that much, and the ones who do may care for one of those reasons or any combination of the three. There are women who have the same desire for those same reasons, but they're much less common. So rationality kicks in, and the truth is that very inexperienced older people d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:37 PM
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lol fair, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:47 PM
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"Male sexlessness crisis" is made up bullshit, stats show women are also having less sex but y'all ignore that because it conflicts with your theories. The male loneliness crisis is also more about a lack of friendships/close connections. So you have a bunch of under-socialized dudes expecting women to solve all their problems via sex but they don't even realize their lack of socialization and friendships are hugely offputting and make them difficult to be around. None of you want to talk about …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:41 PM
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Most single men aren't struggling. Stop conflating loser problems with male problems, it's misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:25 PM
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"Not being able to fuck a virgin is the equivalent of getting beaten and abused, why won't women date me, it can't possibly have anything to do with my personality."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:07 PM
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Are you under the impression that anyone likes changing diapers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:49 PM
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I don't argue with children, and it's painfully obvious that you are one, no matter how much you dodge the question. I'm not interested in continuing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:50 AM
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Yes, I think women should reject men they aren't interested in. They're doing that anyway, which rocks, but I can in no way take credit for it. If a 30 year old acts the same way he did at 20, there's something seriously wrong with him and 30 year old women won't be interested. Something changed. Are you really young? This seems like something a teenager wouldn't get but anyone else would find obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:40 AM
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Why should I take accountability for someone else's dating woes? I take accountability for my own. Yours are not my problem. It's also very silly to assume the "mature girls" (lol) are seeing something the women of his youth foolishly missed. He was probably a very different person back then -- if he'd had no growth at all he wouldn't be doing well now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:03 AM
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It doesn't have to be a "legitimate red flag" for her to not like it and not want to date you. That's fine. She's allowed. If it makes you mad that women are allowed to reject you, that's actually a great reason to reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:39 AM
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"It can't possibly be my fault that no one wants to fuck or date me!" Lmao but I'm the one with the accountability issue. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:06 AM
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no longer the village or family support This is a big thing everyone forgets. Your grandma had more help than your wife does today, and -- even bigger -- her young children were expected to entertain themselves unsupervised in a way that would get CPS called today. Having to actually watch your seven-year-old instead of just sending him out of the house to play with the neighborhood kids adds an enormous amount of labor. IT is fiction but actually pretty accurate on this point. In the opening ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:52 PM
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What's a "spurious" reason to reject someone? Who made you the arbiter? Why should anyone feel obligated to enter into a sexual/romantic relationship they do not want to have? The truth is that OP was someone very few people wanted to date, and he changed that successfully. He learned from his mistakes. That's something to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:34 PM
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Take some responsibility for the sexual failures of your youth and congratulate yourself on overcoming them. This isn't gendered, but men are the only ones who get really mad at me when I say it -- if you're consistently struggling really hard with dating, it's pretty much always your fault. Those women who rejected you probably had good reasons. You successfully turned yourself into someone people actually want to date. Feel good about it. I have 0 sympathy for your struggles with finding a vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:02 PM
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He had surgery on his penis as a child and didn't have a whole lot of sensation as an adult, it was def at least partially physiological.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:11 AM
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I refuse to get flair here, so: I actually dated a guy who couldn't get off any way other than masturbation. Not a porn thing, before anyone suggests it -- he had some complicated medical history around his dick and had actually tried taking significant time off masturbation to see if it would change anything. Anyway, it was fine. We'd cuddle and talk dirty or have me sit on his face. It wasn't ideal but it didn't make me feel inadequate or anything. He never used a fleshlight but I wouldn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:50 AM
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If you find yourself dating a man who is totally fine with having sex you don't want or enjoy and furthermore thinks you're obligated to keep it up even when he's behaving like a jerk the best thing you can possibly do is treat him like absolute trash and leave him so psychologically wrecked that he scares off any future potential partners. Dumping him is easier though, and less rough on your soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:09 PM
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I do not remotely believe that you enjoy mopping floors under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:34 PM
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It's not a chore I do for him, it's a mutually enjoyable activity we do together. If we had a huge fight and he chose to, say, skip out on a dinner or fun outing we'd previously planned that would make sense. That's something that was supposed to be fun for both of us, and it's not going to be fun now we're mad at each other. A man who expects his partners to see sex as a chore they do for his benefit should stick to paid partners. They'll be hotter and fake enthusiasm better, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:03 PM
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He thinks it's a topic worthy of discussion, which suggests some complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:29 AM
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It's a stupid phrase because most men aren't losers and they aren't having these problems. Stop equating loser problems with male problems. They aren't the same thing, no matter how many losers think of themselves as "average guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:10 AM
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I don't know anyone who straight up decided not to have boyfriends in her twenties because she was focusing on her career. I know a whole lot of people who delayed marriage and kids til their thirties for a variety of reasons including career but also travel and fun and freedom. I also know people who just didn't make much effort to date due to a very busy work/academic schedule, but weren't necessarily opposed to the possibility. In my early twenties I saw a lot of breakups happen because one p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:35 AM
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They're hot. It's not that complicated. A lot of people find androgyny attractive. Old school PUAs got this, TRP does not because they're basically just dumber PUAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:47 PM
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Nah -- but I do think it's highly telling that you're so certain about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:21 PM
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People are frequently hypocritical, but in this case those are different women. If you searched the world you might be able to find one weird bitch who holds both views but she's going to be unusual in that. I do find it fascinating how many topics here seem to be posted by men who do not seem to understand the concept that women can disagree with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:51 PM
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This may be a hot take, but just because someone is red pilled doesn't mean they hate women. There are hateful portions of the red pill but a decent chunk of it is men bettering their own lives. It's not that they're hateful, it's that they're stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:12 AM
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That's not what "treat women like humans" means. I treat people differently based on age -- doesn't mean I don't think they're all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:44 PM
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Second, it assumes that men treat each other so much better than they do women. No it doesn't. There was a thread on here a while back about "what was your red pilling moment" and all the answers were shit like "I realized a hot guy got laid a lot" and "a woman cheated." If women having normal human desires and flaws changes your whole worldview -- then what the fuck was wrong with your worldview in the first place? Like they think we're angels until we do something non-angelic, and then they de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:17 PM
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If you enjoy dating around you're probably going to be pretty active on dating apps and you're not going to feel a strong sense of urgency about settling down. I was on the apps heavily for two years from 25 - 27. I'd gotten out of a long, messy relationship and needed a good long time to recover. I was not emotionally available in the slightest, I would not have been a good girlfriend to anyone, and it was probably a good thing I wasn't trying super hard to be anyone's girlfriend. I wasn't in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:53 AM

The post says that a woman who cares about income in any serious way is likely to be called a golddigger, not that everyone will widely agree with the assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:55 AM
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I do my best to be a good person and I have great life. Bullying terps is extremely fun and funny and morally A-okay and it always will be. Be as mad about it as you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 01:34 AM
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Yes, my opinions are opinions because I believe them to be true, that's how opinions work. I also think a lot of potential future shitheads can be diverted into becoming decent people if they don't get drawn into this TRP bullshit, and mocking terps as a bunch of losers is one way to make them steer clear of that path. If they didn't want to be mocked then they shouldn't spout immensely mockable edgelord crap while going on about "harsh truths."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 01:30 AM
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Lmao yes, Nazis deserve to be bullied, so do red pillers, so do bullies in general. Lot of overlap between those groups! You can't let these shitty fucks paint themselves as "misunderstood." It's a trap. They're not misunderstood. They are bad people and they deserve consequences for all the nasty shit they spout.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:44 PM
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There was a thread a while back where guys talked about their "redpilling" moment and it was all stuff like "I noticed that a really hot guy had a lot of sex" and "a woman cheated." If women having normal human desires and flaws is enough to change your entire worldview then your original worldview was absolutely fucking dumb as shit. So yeah, they are idiots, they are losers, they're definitely going to call me a post-wall slut regardless of how nicely I refer to them so I literally don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:15 PM
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There are about a zillion factors that could easily make either one a better or worse advice-giver than the other but all else being equal I'd say B. "Ask the fisherman, not the fish" is kinda bullshit, not because it's not true, but because nearly everything else matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:33 AM
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If I were interested this would put me off, and if I weren't interested I wouldn't care. It's not even that I particularly like maintaining friendships with exes and near-exes -- I don't. I don't date my friends, either, nor am I in the business of forcing friendships with men who are transparently uninterested in anything platonic. It's that a dude making a point of telling me this early on would come off as an aggressive weirdo who definitely follows a lot of dumb Andrew Tate shit. You're acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:17 PM

No, they literally do. Abusers often make a lot of big romantic gestures early on and move the relationship forwards very quickly. The abuse typically doesn't start til after major milestones like moving in together, and sometimes takes years. This is enormously well-documented by literally every study ever done on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:13 PM
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This is something losers tell themselves when they don't want to admit they got rejected for good reason. The entirely uncomfirmed possibility that a more attractive person might have gotten away with the same behavior doesn't make the reason any less good, it just means that hot people get away with shit, which you already knew because you'll let a pretty girl get away with all kinds of crap you'd never tolerate from someone less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:09 AM
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It's "pick better" and "vet your partners" til it's "no, not like that, you weren't supposed to reject me."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:00 PM
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What are these "minor missteps," specifically? Because it's really easy for you to claim she rejected you over something "minor" when you don't have to explain what the "minor" thing was. Clearly she didn't consider it minor. Who made you the arbiter of acceptable reasons to lose interest? ETA: I'm like 90% sure OP is just gonna ignore this one lolololol ETA 2: Yep. Hey, u/Eurythmetics, if you genuinely just missed this -- care to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:29 PM
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Weddings are not necessarily religious. It's a party to celebrate your love, there's nothing non-progressive about that. You might as well whine about atheists celebrating Christmas. You have much more of a point on the diamonds. Given that nearly everything you buy is in some way unethically sourced I get why a lot of people simply decide not to care -- although tbh I do judge them a bit. My engagement ring will not be a diamond and most of the people I know who have gotten engaged did not get …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:00 PM
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Zoomers are the ones doing extreme age gap discourse on TikTok and freaking out over age gaps most older people wouldn't consider cause for concern. I dated a 20 year old when I was 17 and it was a non-issue to everyone, including my parents. A 17 year old doing the same thing today would likely get significant concern from her friends, even if her parents were fine with it and there were no obvious red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:21 PM
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There are preferences and there are values. If you are behaving a certain way because you believe it's the right way to behave, that's a personal choice made based on values. If you believe that a wide range of behaviors are perfectly within your values but choose to behave in a specific way due to preference, that choice is not really a product of your values. I'm not monogamous because I think monogamy is the right way for everyone to do relationships. I'm monogamous because I like being monog…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:31 PM
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I mean you don't have to shit talk, but a strong preference for non-promiscuity in your partners is a red flag for a lot of jealousy, insecurity, overly conservative values, controlling behavior, etc. She's not rejecting you because she shares your values, she's rejecting you because she doesn't share your values and furthermore she thinks your values are bad. It was the first example that came to mind. If someone said they wouldn't date someone with divorced parents without shit-talking those p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:28 PM
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That's a personal choice, not a value. I am monogamous but would not date someone who talked a lot of shit about polyamory and the people who choose it. I choose monogamy because it's what works for me. My value is that people should pursue relationship structures that make them and their partner(s) happy, even if their choices are unconventional. I do not share values with someone who is intolerant, sexually conservative, and judgmental just because we have the same personal preference. We migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:35 PM
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Those women don't share your values. They have their own preferences about how they live their lives, but they don't believe promiscuous women are doing anything wrong, and they are (rightly, IMO) suspicious of men who highly value their non-promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:59 PM
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They don't fuck men and a lot of the guys making these posts are fat themselves and in denial about how much it matters. Plus it's harder to blame women for every evil in the world if you have to acknowledge that men are doing the exact same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:04 PM
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I think people give Jonah Hill too much credit when they describe him as "confused about what he wanted" and "going about it the wrong way." All his "rules" existed to sabotage her friendships and career. If she'd been a church girl, it would have been harder for him to find excuses to do that -- but I bet he'd have found them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:55 PM
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I too have talked a lot about how much I love hot younger guys when being hit on by elderly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:07 PM

So you want to save time and look at less ads during your search? Answered your own question there. Most dating apps struggle with gender ratio, so bringing in female users is always going to be a priority. That's why they're likelier to offer free features that appeal to female users while paywalling or not bothering with the ones that appeal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:09 PM
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There's a difference between being sad someone you liked and had good sex with wasn't interested in more and being upset because you wouldn't have slept with them if you'd known the score. I think y'all have a lot of revenge fantasies about the latter when the former is way more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:38 PM

Unlike height, weight is usually pretty easy to determine from pictures. If you can't tell, you already know what that means and can just swipe left. OKC def has (or had, it's been a while) a body type filter. I don't think it's off-putting so much as just not very necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:08 PM
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I've heard plenty of "I'm sad he doesn't like me" in my life but very little "I'm sad because I got deceived into sex" in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:08 PM
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Are those guys shitty manipulative people, though? Or are they just hot and pleasant and good options for a woman who wants to have some casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:23 AM
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Manipulation works, no shit? It works on you too, don't pretend it doesn't. But regardless, the vast majority of casual sex is between two people who know the score and aren't being manipulated or lied to about anything. I think a lot of fuckless men would like to believe otherwise, because it's important to them to believe that more sexually successful men are on some fundamental level bad people. It lets them fantasize about a narrative where they're undesired because of their goodness, not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:59 AM
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"True, honest, and natural self" is such a vague concept that it's basically meaningless. Plenty of men have sex without having to lie about themselves or their intentions, though. The men who genuinely can't are bottom-tier, not "average."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:02 AM
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Haven't met a guy who isn't the turbo-est of chad's that get's laid and is a good person at the same time. You hang out with shitty people. A relatively small number of both men and women have almost all of the casual sex. They find each other and no one really needs to manipulate anyone. So they don't, even if they're bad people, because manipulation takes thought and effort and there's no reason for it when you could just act like a normal person for a few drinks and get the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:39 AM
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I would argue that it's like 90% just classism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:34 AM
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They define "bad boy" as "blue collar, parties sometimes, maybe has tattoos." Lots of women do like those men, but those men aren't actually "bad" in any real sense of the word. Lots of them are steadily employed, perfectly nice people. They define those men as "bad" because they're a bunch of nerdy STEM lords who think they're superior to bartenders, and they're mad that bartenders get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:07 AM
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lmao @ the fact that you think that proves your point in any way whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:57 PM
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You can communicate your heart out but if the other person doesn't want to change anything and is willing to be manipulative to maintain the status quo then all the open communication in the world will do exactly jack shit. They will agree to a solution and not follow through, they will move goal posts, and whatever happens they will somehow find a way to make the problem your fault. You chose a gendered scenario to make this sound like a gendered phenomenon. It's not. I could throw several gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:11 PM
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Lmao keep telling yourself that. I am over thirty (and was over thirty the last time I was single) and have had very little trouble finding attractive leftist men to date seriously. I'm stricter than her on politics -- I'm not touching center-left dick -- and very likely stricter than her on looks. Conservative men harbor a lot of delusions but the one where being conservative somehow makes them more attractive to lib/lefty women is one of the funnier ones. Like just compare obesity rates in red…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:59 PM
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Absolutely wild that you think "I would like to be attracted to my partner" and "I would like someone who shares my political values" are insanely high standards. Those are only insanely high standards if you're a hideous with niche political views and honestly even some of those people still manage to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:11 AM
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Nah, the studies on it all fail replication tests and don't even show a particularly dramatic difference. I personally noticed 0 change. It can affect libido. Typically it lowers libido but the reverse happens too and that definitely affects sexual behavior. Mood changes are also a thing. I experience literally none of this -- my only noticeable BC side effect is that I went from occasional light acne to basically none ever -- so it's highly variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:16 PM
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If you choose men on looks, you're shallow. If you choose men on ability to provide, you're a gold digger. If you choose men on their values... that's also bad somehow?? Starting to seem like the real complaint is women having choices at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah, same. Loads of experience, never felt like I was being "used" because I was there for the sex as well and if I wanted more we were generally on the same page about that. I don't hate men. If I believed the shit redpillers say about what men are like I'd never talk to a man again. For people who constantly bitch about "anti-male bias" and blame everything on women they seem to have a really nasty view of men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:09 PM
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There's probably something to that, honestly. When I was a heavy Tinder user I found it wasn't that unusual for guys to show up better looking than I expected. When I asked men about their experiences on the apps they said that women rarely/never proved better looking in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:51 PM
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Lol none of these say anything about "trustworthiness" or longterm effects. They say that some women who have casual sex feel sad for a while after. No duh? People who are depressed drink and fuck as distraction -- there's nothing proving cause and effect here. It's just easier for a depressed woman to get laid about it than a depressed man. Most women who feel bad about casual sex stop having it. The ones who stick with it either have deeper issues OR just don't feel bad about casual sex. I gue…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:30 PM
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So what? You have to do a lot more than just approach in order to face any real consequences. If you learn to recognize a soft no your likelihood of facing an actually rude rejection are low and you can literally just ignore those woman because they're jerks. Just because someone isn't receptive to your advances doesn't mean she thinks you're a creep for approaching -- but if you keep bugging her she's prob gonna change her mind about that. I've never heard anyone tell a story about a "creep" wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:44 PM
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Not that into relationships. Poly and have been in a serious relationship -- or multiple serious relationships -- the whole time. Ghost profiles from women who deleted the apps but never deleted their actual profiles. Most likely: she's finding relationships and some of them are even lasting years but you see the same woman three times in eight years and assume she's been single the whole time. Lol I got downvoted because I gave some options besides "women terrible." Stop pretending you want ans…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:32 PM
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Yes, that's how all my relationships started. I've ghosted hookups who wanted more and it was generally because I thought we were a bad match for an actual relationship. I would not date a man who referred to a woman wanting to wait as "making stupid rules." I don't at all blame you for not pursuing these women -- you are clearly incompatible -- but being that dismissive of another person's personal comfort levels is a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:34 AM
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I'm a woman, this is a question for women!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:54 PM
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Yeah, they were cool people who lived very full lives and met at a party in their thirties. I don't think either of them struggled much. The people I know now who are similar don't struggle either. And yeah, the whole thing is completely overblown. "Modern dating" is fine. It sucks for losers, but it always has. The people struggling now wouldn't do much better 30 or 40 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:24 PM
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Straight women do it to each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:14 PM
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They're great relationship material for each other. Do you understand the basic concept of compatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:16 PM
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Yeah. I don't think it's good to tear anyone down over a sexual behavior that isn't hurting anyone. You don't need to celebrate it either but I find the anger and hatred pretty pathetic. I don't see why this is confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:29 PM
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Yes, and I've left over it before. I have a high sex drive and need a partner who is similar. I can deal with some disparity, but if his sex drive is too low I won't be happy in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:41 PM
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You can learn a lot from a dad who is confident enough to be himself despite society's expectations! "Male mental health" this and "male mental health" that but you're awfully eager to drag down any man who doesn't follow strict gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:18 PM
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All your favorite creators want useless complainers. If you're not a useless complainer who won't help yourself, they'll do their best to turn you into one. That's the scam. They fill your head with brand new insecurities and convince you that women are out to get you so you sabotage yourself. That way you stay, single, unhappy, and contributing to their profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:50 PM

No, but you can make decisions about how you manage those feelings. I do not control my partner or violate his privacy just because I have a jealous feeling. I expect the same restraint from him. And honestly, I don't ever really feel concerned about him cheating. If you're constantly suspicious that your partner might be cheating on you, that's absolutely not normal and something is very wrong with either your relationship or with you. If you have a good reason to be suspicious that's a whole o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:50 PM

Jealous bullshit is jealous bullshit. I would literally rather get cheated on than live in a relationship where this crap is acceptable. I've never looked through a partner's phone and I'd never let a partner look through mine either. If I were dating someone and he wanted to look through my phone without a VERY good reason, I'd dump him. I don't care if that makes him suspicious that I'm cheating. His opinion on that doesn't matter if we're not together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:09 PM
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It's not really different. They're both bad. Paternity fraud is a more serious accusation than garden-variety cheating, which is why it hits harder -- but yeah I'd dump someone who accused me of cheating over underwear too. If you want a paternity test and you don't inform your partner of that desire before she gets pregnant you're a manipulative piece of shit, which is also solid grounds for divorce. If you are someone who needs absolute proof that your partner is faithful to you in order to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:53 PM

I said I'd dump him, not that I'd refuse the test. He'd get that test, he'd just be getting a divorce as well. I'd want him to know that he blew up his family over nothing. And it's doubtful we'd ever get that far because, as I said, I don't tolerate jealous bullshit and the kind of guy who would make that type of request for no reason is definitely someone who pulls a lot of jealous bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:28 PM

Firmly childfree, but yes, I would dump a man who accused me of cheating for no reason. Idc. I have very little tolerance for paranoid jealous bullshit. The type of relationship where this kind of request would be acceptable is not the kind of relationship I want and not the kind of relationship I would accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:33 PM
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I see so much scaremongering on here about how "dating is broken" but none of my friends are majorly struggling with any of these issues. "Dating" is fine. It feels better to blame some made-up systemic issues than admit that you're the problem, which is why we get threads like this. I don't think either of these things are real problems for the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:29 PM
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Casual sex is generally less stigmatized but they're still having less of it. They drink much less and are likelier to live at home, which are bigger factors than "liberation." If zoomers are just as sexually liberated as millennials, why would they be more inclined to underreport? That doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:44 AM
1

Very clever comeback, I certainly feel humbled by your vast knowledge!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:58 AM
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Zoomers fuck way less than Millennials, who fuck less than Gen Xers. People are actually having less and less casual sex while increasingly overestimating how much casual sex everyone else is having. The overestimation thing is real, and explains a lot of what's going on in this thread. They've done studies on college campuses where they survey people about whether they hooked up last weekend and also about how many fellow students they think hooked up last weekend and the numbers are almost hil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:54 AM
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I watch porn maybe once every couple months when my imagination doesn't suffice. Sorry to disappoint you. One day I hope to encounter a believer in porn addiction who doesn't immediately respond to my skepticism by accusing me of being a porn addict. It hasn't happened yet, and apparently today is not that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:29 AM
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It's Evangelical propaganda. The studies are all very conflicting, with the ones that appear to confirm "porn addiction" done exclusively on Evangelical men who believe they're going to burn in hell forever for looking at porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:02 AM
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lol no Most people with "porn addictions" just have severe sexual shame -- if you're not straight, or not vanilla, or raised in a religious environment you are far more likely to ID as a porn addict. The people who actually do use porn in unhealthy ways are typically suffering from depression or OCD and do not benefit from addiction treatment. Participation in "porn addiction" online support groups like r/NoFap is linked to higher rates of depression, suicidal ideation, and ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:42 PM
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Most men get married at some point in their lifetimes. Stop conflating loser problems with man problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:25 PM
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although both male and female sex partners are highly concentrated among people Basically the sluts are banging the sluts, which is what I keep telling you guys. Also, porn addiction isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:08 PM
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Then why does marrying young raise the chances of divorce so much? Statistically, those people are much likelier to have been virgins when they met, or at least very inexperienced. Girls with many sexual relationships wants many things and have so many expectations , it s not even love at this point Oh no, she "wants things" and "has expectations" about how she spends the rest of her life! You want a golden retriever or your literal mother, not a girlfriend. This seems to be common among the neu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:07 PM
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What "bad advice" have married people given you, specifically? Every time I hear "X group gives bad advice" they just describe the kind of meaningless platitudes people spout when they don't really know what to say. Often it's not even wrong, just not particularly actionable. Or it's actually pretty solid advice that requires effort and doesn't guarantee speedy results, like "expand your social circle." What kind of advice are people giving you that wouldn't fly 10 years ago? Again, specifically…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:46 PM
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Idk, I'm in my mid-thirties and still have the horny stress response. It's a really good distraction from whatever is stressing me out! Feeling physically unwell makes me more interested in masturbation than sex -- and often more interested in masturbation than usual -- but if it's just emotional I'm gonna want to have some sex about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:43 PM
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It's not abuse if a woman doesn't want to fuck you. It is perfectly reasonable grounds for leaving the relationship. It's okay to leave if you're unhappy. You don't need to cry abuse to justify it. I've left over a shitty sex life and would again. I sure hope you don't have a double standard about it! You don't think sex is dirty and you don't judge women for wanting sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:32 PM
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3 guys at once was my sweet spot when I was single. More than that and I didn't have time for all of them, less than that and I ended up sexually frustrated. Eventually I'd hit it off super hard with one of them and the rest would fall by the wayside pretty quick. People who expect exclusivity without any conversation are weenies so filtering them out was a feature, not a bug. That said, I live in a place where multidating is the default so it never actually came up. Me and my bf were both sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:50 PM
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It's weird to claim it happens "more" when you haven't been on the opposite side of it. I got hit on by older men all the time in college. Pretty much all my friends have been hit on by younger men. In many cases it was unwanted and they considered those men too young for anything. I don't mind. Most of the younger men I've been involved with found me on Tinder and typically had histories of dating older women. My possibly unpopular opinion is that age gap casual sex >>> age gap relationships, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:41 PM
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If they can't get a woman who is into casual sex interested in them, then yes. If they can it doesn't really matter how much difficulty they've had in the past, she's going to want to date the way she dates, which includes casual sex as an important "chemistry check."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:25 PM
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Literally the same reasons men do. You're blaming this on feminism when it's more gender-neutral commitment issues. You are baffled by it because you have a very incorrect idea of how much most women actually benefit financially from divorce, and because you have another incorrect idea that women are supposed to highly value marriage as some kind of natural biological thing. Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:07 PM
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Lol @ citing a tiktok as a source. But yeah, casual sex is fine, situationships can be perfectly fine and lovely under the right circumstances, following a casual sex to dating path is actually a pretty chill strategy that has worked out great for me personally. Every time I've found myself in a "situationship" we were both sleeping with other people and neither of us cared, nor were we misaligned on where the relationship was or wasn't going.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:26 PM
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For women, they are sold this concept that they can have casual sex with hot guys and lock them down for relationships. FWBs, friends with benefits, or whats now more called situationships, are marketed to women as a preliminary stage of a long term relationship with that guy with "big dick energy". But what happens is, of course, these never materialize into relationships because those hot guys have 5-6 other women who want the same thing, and they just keep these women as casual flings or date…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:04 PM

I mean your post gave the same vibes as "no drama" on a dating profile. But obviously I don't know you. Can you give an example of the "drama-seeking" behavior you're complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:58 AM
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It used to be a running joke that "no drama" on a dating profile meant "I cause lots of drama and blame other people for it." Got to the point where people no longer put that on their dating profiles, which is a shame, because now you can't filter them out as easily. I've met people who caused lots of drama and I can't say exactly what was going on there -- nor do I think it was the same for all of them -- but they're annoying and if they find you too boring to date they're doing you a favor. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:34 PM
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I imagine it would be similar in any HCOL area. People who live with parents, share bedrooms, or just have fussy roommates care about it way more, for practical reasons -- you need somewhere convenient to go, and at that age most people can't easily spring for a motel room just to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:48 PM
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"Male loneliness" this and "male loneliness" that but you're "exhausted" by two women being nice to each other. It's not hard to find something you genuinely like about someone, and mentioning it is an easy way to make the other person feel good, smooth out the interaction, and sometimes to signal that you're open to a deeper connection. There are people out there congratulating themselves on putting no effort into any of their social connections and then whining about being lonely and like... w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:09 PM
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When I was that age my hookups were mostly with guys my own age who were in school or working service industry. I was impressed on the relatively rare occasion I found one who didn't have roommates -- but it wasn't something I particularly cared about or filtered for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:42 AM
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So you're saying it's okay to reject people over a lack of attraction and lifestyle incompatibility? I agree! Now you get it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:03 AM
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Then they'd go find one of those obese single moms they're always complaining about and romance the shit out of her. Again, they're not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:49 PM
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Their point is bullshit. If "male loneliness" were the real issue they'd try harder to make friends and welcome platonic female friendship. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:43 PM
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Everyone cares, hot people just have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:42 PM
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If they're trying to date really hot people, yeah, no shit. But also social skills, emotional problems, lifestyle issues, etc. "Whaaa but shitty guys get girlfriends!" Just because a filter doesn't catch every asshole doesn't mean it doesn't catch plenty of them. "Whaaaa hot people get away with it." Yeah, hot people get away with lots of stuff you can't. You'll let a hot girl get away with all kinds of shit too, and you're lying if you deny that. I looked hot af when I was struggling with datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:14 PM
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Sure am! The real harsh truth none of you want to acknowledge is that men who struggle with dating aren't necessarily bad people, but most of them struggle for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:01 PM
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Make a friend, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:11 PM
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Replacing dating with an AI girlfriend means that (1) you don't see women as people, so AI is a great replacement, or (2) you don't want to date a real person and deal with everything that entails. Either way -- no one's missing out by not dating you. Idk why you want me to get all sad about the fact that some guys I don't want to fuck have taken themselves off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:39 PM
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All my relationships started out as hookups. In all cases, it became clear very early on that we were into each other for more than just sex. The vast majority of my hookups have not turned into relationships, nor did they ever seem to be heading that way. I care deeply about sexual compatibility in a relationship, and when I was single I considered a decent hookup or a new FWB a pretty good outcome for a date, even if finding a relationship was my ultimate goal at the time. There's something ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:29 PM
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It's fairly backed up by psychological studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:48 PM
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Your post indicates some confusion on the matter! It's also normal for people to think something looks fun until they try it out and discover they don't like it. It's normal to try a few times just to see if your initial experience was bad due to factors other than "this activity isn't actually fun."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:00 PM
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Okay, so the women on podcasts are women who don't enjoy casual sex. Do you understand the basic concept that people can enjoy different things and have different feelings about those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:52 PM
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Men who don't see women as full human beings are wayyyy more common than the reverse, and thus way more interested in AI girlfriends. Some of those men are very vocal about it. Women and gay men don't have the same issue, so aren't nearly as interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:11 PM
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Happy relationships don't make for good content. People love a good slow burn romance on TV. Watching two compelling characters play will-they-or-won't-they over multiple seasons is a lot of fun! A lot of shows that have that dynamic suffer enormously when the characters finally get together. Suddenly a major source of dramatic tension is gone, and often the writers have to start start throwing obstacles at the couple to cause conflict between them and/or break them up entirely. It gets boring a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:00 PM
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It's impossible for AI to replace a full human being. If you don't really see women as full human beings, that's way less of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:52 PM
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The women who don't like casual sex stop having it unless they misread a situation and do it by accident or get deliberately deceived. They're not the ones going on podcasts talking about how sexually liberating it is. The women saying this on podcasts are women who like casual sex, find it pleasurable, and don't see themselves as being "used" by engaging in it. It's liberating to have sex you enjoy on your own terms, regardless of what that means to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:47 PM
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They're in lesbian relationships. 20% of Gen Z identifies as queer, with bisexual women being the largest group. Gay men aren't as relationship-oriented and raise the percentage of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:19 PM

I don't know where you're getting "defensive undertones" -- you've been dodging the question for several interactions now! I'm not Gen Z. I'm old enough to remember when "Facebook official" was a big deal and honestly your objections would make a lot more sense if that were still a thing -- but it hasn't been for a long time. Most people just post the occasional couples photo, maybe something a little more romantic on birthdays/anniversaries. I haven't noticed much difference between age groups …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:59 PM
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Insecurity farming again. Turn men into neurotic weirdos so they stay single and desperate and keep listening to your podcasts and buying your expensive masculinity programs. You're either a grifter or a mark. It's kind of a brilliant strategy. You target struggling teenage boys, because they are horny and frustrated but also very naive. They don't interact with women so you can spin all kinds of tales about "what women are like" and they'll believe you. You tell them that women like tall, attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:39 PM
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I've seen some cringey relationship posting, but it's the exception rather than the rule and it's incredibly easy to avoid dating someone who does that kind of thing. Mostly I see it when someone's weirdo post goes viral, it's not something I see regularly on my own feeds from my own friends. I'm still really not getting it, and I'd like to! Can you explain what specifically stresses you out about having people know you're in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:09 AM
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That's not really her problem. There are women out there who don't care. There are women out there who care but don't consider it an automatic dealbreaker if everything else seems cool. There are even women who find it attractive. Also you can just lie about it. Takes all the pressure right off and it's fine. Idgaf if people lie about their sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:22 PM
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Nah. You're still playing dumb. It's boring and not worth engaging with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:18 PM
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The term "loose" is pretty obviously derogatory, don't play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:16 PM
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See previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:07 PM
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She's still the first person who was attracted enough to have sex with you and you're on the internet talking shit about her for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:53 PM
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Someone in a culture where that's normalized probably has a lot less baggage around it, which helps immeasurably.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:52 PM
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I think he kinda answered his own question with that -- like no shit, no one wants to date a bitter shit-talker. He sounds like a deeply unpleasant person. Is he inexperienced because he's unpleasant, or unpleasant because he's inexperienced? Does it matter? He's still unpleasant either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:50 PM

You're spouting pseudoscience and you think it's legitimate neuroscience. Get off Tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:37 PM
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I'm not losing any peace of mind because other people know about my relationship and no one's been intrusive about it at any point. Have you had some really weird experiences with that? Because I'm having a hard time understanding what about this disturbs your peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:35 PM
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Mentioning this virtually guarantees that none of you will engage with me, but: it's very common for queer people who have been out for a while to avoid dating people who are very fresh out of the closet. I know someone who requires a full decade out + dating queer people. This person does not date cis men. Being a good romantic partner is a skill. Dating people who haven't developed that skill is a pain in the ass. It also puts a lot of pressure on the more experienced partner. And yeah, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:31 PM
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I did read your last point, I just disagree with it. It's normal for the people in your life to know that you're seeing someone. It's never been common for people to keep their relationships secret for non-shady reasons. Social media does somewhat enlarge the number of acquaintances who are aware, but again -- I don't really see the problem with that. Why don't you want your acquaintances to know you're dating someone? What about that bothers you? You've explained why it's different -- although …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:18 PM

I'm sure you think this all sounds very deep. It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:11 PM
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I don't think I've ever cared much about a man's social media presence or lack thereof. If it were super toxic or whatever I'd be put off but that honestly hasn't come up. I do find it deeply weird that you're scared off by the idea that other people might know about your relationship. Why is that bad? It was common for the people in your social circles to be aware of your romantic relationships even before social media. Do you find the idea of being in a relationship embarrassing? Are you conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:25 PM
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It's mostly fine. It's possible to have problematic porn use but it's still not "addiction" -- it's usually connected to depression or OCD, and treating it like an addiction doesn't solve the problem. Engagement with porn addiction groups is linked to higher rates of depression, suicidal ideation, and erectile dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:15 PM
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Porn addiction is just Evangelical propaganda that managed to go mainstream. It's questionably real at best, and the vast majority of so-called "porn addicts" do not remotely qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:01 PM
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It works on men literally just as well as it does on women -- which is to say, very well on some and very poorly on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:36 PM
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Nope. Wouldn't feel okay about it if I were the higher earner, either. That's a roommate, not a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:47 PM
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"Baggage" has always seemed like a stupid way to talk about relationship experience. Most people have some kind of baggage in their lives, not always related to a past romantic relationship. Relationships are also a skill, and dating someone who hasn't had the chance to develop those skills is kind of a pain. There's a reason a lot of gays are wary about dating the freshly out. I would say men are less bothered by dating the inexperienced, but I think it's for kinda crappy reasons. Like they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:00 AM
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Imagine a hypotheses where this guy comes out not wearing a shirt and showing off his abs and a bunch of girls are checking him out. If that made her jealous and insecure and she told him to cover up society would by and large not consider her controlling or misandrist in any way. She is being controlling, though. It's gross. I don't have a double standard here. People who use monogamy as an excuse to be controlling to their partners should be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:32 PM
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Sounds like some shit an abuser would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:44 PM
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Don't date people you don't trust. If you don't trust anyone, go to therapy or stay single. Don't put someone in relationship prison camp and call that "love."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:14 PM
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Cool, they found the secret to not being judged for their preferences!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:24 AM

That only makes sense if it's an opportunity both can enjoy. Like if it's a trip they'd both love to go on but one can't make it, I'd get being pretty salty and wanting to delay til a better time. If it's a hiking trip and one person hates hiking, or a festival and one person hates dancing -- I don't see why the trip can't happen, nor do I see what's to be gained by dragging a reluctant spouse along.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:00 AM
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I've literally never met a man with that preference who was able to shut up about how disgusting he thought the sluts were and at this point I'm not convinced any exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:29 AM

Yeah, it's fine. There are plenty of good reasons -- some people don't like to travel, or like to travel very differently, or just can't get the same amount of time off. It's not love to limit someone from doing things just because you're scared they might cheat on you at the first opportunity. Fund the trip however they usually fund big fun purchases that only benefit one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:22 AM
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"Women with more than X number of past sexual partners are worthless whores! Their partners have no self-respect! Wait... why are these whores calling me a loser? Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!" But yeah you can just date people who don't do those things instead of shaming women who don't want controlling partners. And yeah, a lot of the crap you mention is super controlling. It's a good thing less women tolerate that type of behavior now. If that means you'll die alone... so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:41 AM
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I've known a few women who genuinely preferred much older men. Their older boyfriends were always much more attractive than most men in that age group. I've also known women who dated older men because they were rich. They dated younger rich guys too, and preferred them to the grandpas. I have never been into older men but I had a boyfriend 8 years my senior when I was in my early twenties. He got past my reservations about the age gap by being incredibly hot and also fairly immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:47 PM
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My fairly brief period of dating in my thirties was gr88888, way better than in my early twenties -- and I'm female. I'm hot and kept it. I live in a place where most people don't settle down too young. I was mostly dating younger men. I'm childfree + was very fresh out of a longterm relationship so I wasn't feeling any particular urgency to settle down. I'm sure all of these are factors. I felt like the guys behaved better in general -- less bullshit games, better sex. I was overall more sure o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:38 PM
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"Nice guy" (derogatory) describes a man who reacts to rejection in a very specific way -- by insulting the woman he just came onto, and then proclaiming his "niceness" as the reason why she's a terrible person for rejecting him. It's a real and sadly semi-common phenomenon and the men who pull that shit don't deserve your sympathy. But yeah decide it applies to a whole different category of guys who aren't doing any of that just so you can get mad at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:55 AM

Fair enough. The reasons are literally exactly the same. No big mystery here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:43 PM

Because one of the bonus benefits of having had a bunch of sex with a bunch of people is the guys it filters out. If I keep it secret I don't get the filtration effect, which I very much want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:21 PM

So you do have the skill, but you're refusing to use it because... fairness? Your choice, I guess. I have the ability to squeeze an interesting conversation out of nearly everyone, and using that skill benefited both of us. I had some lovely dates because I was willing to use that skill, even if it felt a little one-sided. I doubt any of the men I did it to ever saw my conversational contributions as "labor" even when I was doing all the heavy lifting in the exchange. I guess my question is: why…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:18 PM

Conversing with strangers is a skill not everyone has. You don't have it either, which is why your response to "how was your day?" is a very basic "good, what about yours?" When someone asked me that question on the apps I'd usually find something more interesting to tell them. Didn't have to be wildly fascinating or whatever but I'd at least give them some kind of specific info in order to take the conversation out of "generic pleasantries" territory. And a lot of the time, I was the only one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:56 PM

Nah, I like long hair because I like pretty effeminate men. Most of the guys I've dated have done very well for themselves sexually. Your lack of success is either a location thing or a you thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:11 PM
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I'm exactly like her. Never struggled with getting overly attached to my casual partners, of which I had many.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:17 AM
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Projecting what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure the majority could find a man of their choice that they might even be attracted to help out with some bills. It's vey weird when you guys act like this is the better option. Great, now you're dependent on one client and totally subject to his whims. And I guess you can just live on air until you find him. Versus having many, right away, and being able to fire or asshole-rate the problematic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:26 PM
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Okay, cool, you've been scammed and you're determined to stay scammed. I guess giving ad revenue to your favorite influencers is more fun than having a fulfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:22 PM
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Insecurity farming. Talking men into screwing up their relationships so they stay single and desperate and spending money on programs that tell them how to be sexier than her exes. Anyone who believes this shit is just a mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:06 PM
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And now they're certain to fuck up any interest they might get in the future, which is great news for masculinity influencers -- especially as a lot of their business model relies on catching followers very young and keeping them hooked until they can afford the programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:27 AM
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It's how armpit shaving for women became mainstream!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:46 PM
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I didn't invent the term but it's not super commonly used. It describes the practice of deliberately giving your audience new insecurities so you can sell them on your fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:13 PM
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Nah. It's just insecurity farming by grifters who want a large audience willing to buy their expensive "masculinity programs." If you want to sell a bullshit masculinity program to inexperienced men the smartest thing you can possibly do is convince them that their chances without your help are much, much worse than they actually are. If you're really smart, you get your followers to help do your insecurity farming for you. This alone explains most of TRP. If you can convince them that the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:51 PM
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Sometimes you don't want to be in a relationship but you don't want to be celibate either. It's actually a good thing if people who aren't ready for commitment don't get into committed relationships. Casual sex is a joy when it works out right -- there's a definite thrill to it, and the disappointments are typically far milder than what you can experience in a committed relationship. The person you're in love with can hurt you in ways your random drunk hookup never could. Boring sex >>>>> realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:40 PM
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The guys who get enraged at this stuff are the same guys who get furious every time they hear about a porn star getting married. They just want women to be tradwives, they get furious at any deviation from that plan especially if the woman in question seems happy, and they throw a big fit about it in order to scare other women into being tradwives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:07 PM
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I've seen friends do it with guys I thought were pretty average. The friends in question did not agree with my assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:12 PM
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Okay no one ever wants to touch this one and I'll be shocked if anyone even bothers responding but: it's really common among the gays to avoid dating people who are too recently out of the closet and inexperienced in gay relationships. I know one person whose minimum requirement is a whole decade out + dating. Inexperienced people come with a higher difficulty setting, regardless of why they're inexperienced. None of you want to acknowledge this. But also: "it's cool and normal to obsessively fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:43 PM
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They can feel as jealous as they like, no one can stop them. They can also make a big deal about how women are terrible for stigmatizing inexperienced men. Again, can't stop them. But if they do both those things at the same time we all get to make fun of them and they better not complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:57 AM
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Yeah, they got the idea from all the creepy old dudes hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:07 PM
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Zoomers are the ones doing extreme age gap discourse on TikTok and scolding age gaps most older people would consider non-issues. But yeah pretend it's just older ladies being jealous, that feels better than realizing it's actually young women who want you to stop bothering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:53 PM
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Even in a world where it's completely normal for women to hit on people, creeps will still approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:42 PM
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Women hitting on men won't reduce creeps. TBH, I'm pro-hitting on men and don't buy all the stuff about how it puts you at a disadvantage but it will do jack shit to end harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:38 PM
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I'm pretty sure this sub defines "bad boy" as "blue collar, parties sometimes."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:43 PM
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I mean it'll probably have a positive effect on you if you're not constantly insulted over it and subjected to workplace discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:17 PM
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It's to cater to online shoppers. If you can't try it on in person, the next best thing is seeing it on a person with a similar body type to your own. Being able to market as "body positive" is a bonus, and a good way to let people know that your online store has photos that people will actually find helpful when shopping. Back in the day before online shopping was quite as much of a thing I ordered stuff from an online store that used thin models. The size small stuff I ordered was all gigantic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:47 PM
1

Every bi woman I've ever discussed the matter with has described women as drastically more generous partners. I know personally that I've never slept with someone and not cared if he enjoyed it. My own experience having a bunch of casual sex with men is that most of them are willing and eager. Yes, including the hot ones -- frankly I don't have a ton of experience with the uggos! You do encounter some who don't give a shit and resent being asked to, but they're more an exception than a rule and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 08:36 PM
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Body positivity is not about forcing people to be attracted to certain body types. It's about not treating people like shit -- or hating yourself -- for failing to meet certain standards. Not being into someone isn't treating them like shit, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:58 PM
1

What action?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:54 PM
1

Having a hobbies and a rich social life minus does make you happier regardless of whether you're partnered, and does make you likelier to meet someone/be able keep them around. It's not a guarantee. There are no guarantees. What are you looking for here? The government to assign you a girlfriend? Someone to agree that your life totally sucks and you're right to be miserable? The former won't happen and the latter won't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:47 PM
2

That's really neurotic. There are plenty of shitty people out there, it's not embarrassing to not be one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:24 PM
1

Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:56 PM
1

It's "be yourself" just rephrased in a way that makes it appeal to redpillers. That's not a bad thing. "Be yourself" is good dating advice that gets unfairly maligned by morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:32 PM
2

A childfree woman will never be desperate to find a husband before her biological clock runs out and she'll never stay in a relationship for the sake of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:29 PM
1

I remember the hot guy who ate my pussy real well. Men who don't eat pussy are sexually inadequate. Years ago I decided I just wasn't going to bother with them -- I'll put on my clothes and go home. I won't cum and the "aggressive" "animalistic" intercourse will literally just be painful and boring. Why do you think only ugly guys eat puss? The hot ones do too, usually. It's a normal thing for people attracted to women enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:20 AM
1

I mean that's literally what I've historically done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:13 PM
2

And it still wasn't enough, was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:26 AM
2

What is the point? You think "low libido" is BS. Explain. Do you not believe it exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:10 AM
1

I'd kick out the hot guy who didn't go down on me and keep fond memories of the guy who was hot enough and made me cum a bunch of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:35 AM
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It's real easy to say shit like this when you're not actually dealing with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:54 AM
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Lots of people with low libidos will get excited over a new person and then go right back to being low libido after a while with that new person. It's not BS. It's just NRE, and it's temporary by nature. People with high libidos will continue having regular sex with longterm partners they no longer find particularly attractive. I've done it. I was grossed out by my ex's weight gain but I was still horny. He probably thought I was still attracted to him. I just hadn't gotten to the point of being…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:43 PM
5

I've dealt with a manageable libido mismatch that became an unmanageable one years down the line. I didn't expect the frequency to go up, I just didn't expect it go down that much either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:57 PM
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Yeah, no Coolidge effect to contend with and you haven't yet built up years of resentment against the new person. New and exciting people are new and exciting. It's not the gotcha you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:54 PM
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Massively, and yes. Nothing kills my attraction like finding out a guy doesn't go down. No matter how excited I was initially, I'm putting my clothes back on, we're not having sex, and we're not going on more dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:24 PM
1

Oh no shit it's easier to cum when you're turned on by a hot person?? Wow! Science! But yeah that's a very different thing from assuming I'm turned on by activities I don't enjoy just because my partner is extra hot. If you interpreted it that way, that's such a wild misreading that I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:03 PM
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A lot of men I've encountered were so sure about how much sex is for them that they would tell me I could and would enjoy activities with another woman. I'm straight, but apparently sex is so much not about me that even my sexuality is completely irrelevant. There's a weird belief I've encountered occasionally that says female sexuality is entirely a response to a specific man. They don't seem to believe that we have actual preferences, just a tiered menu based on how hot the guy is. The expecta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:03 AM
1

People like it when their partners have a compatible sex drive, no shit Sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:58 PM

And how do you think they came to believe in that type of rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:38 AM

I've always been very honest about it. It's a good filter. I don't want to date someone who has a problem with it -- and almost no one ever has. If I liked someone who took issue with it, I'd end things. I might be sad, but so what? I've been sad about plenty of breakups that in retrospect were great choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:22 PM
3

Insecurity farming. Convince young men that every single relationship problem they could possibly have is caused by a "lack of attraction" and it becomes very easy to convince them to spend a bunch of money on your bullshit masculinity program that promises to make them more attractive. Idk if you're a mark or a seller, but you're definitely one of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:10 PM

I don't think people getting married late and having kids late is a huge issue. I also don't think encouraging young people to jump straight into serious relationships when they're not really ready for that and don't want it is likely to be anything other than a complete disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:52 AM
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Nah men with no friends are also massive red flags. But there's a difference between someone with no friends and someone who socializes less than they'd like because their friends aren't as available to hang out, have moved around, lost touch, etc. A text message catchup is no replacement for grabbing a beer with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:05 PM
1

I'm not saying either is impossible -- I'm saying I've done both and I prefer the exercise. I'd rather work out harder and eat more, and I find it a lot easier to maintain than heavier food restriction alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:29 AM

midly attractive and having a decent body So, the 6 foot 2 grandma with wonky teeth and incredibly hairy legs is fine as long as she's got boobs and isn't fat? And by "not fat" I mean "not technically overweight" not "toned."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 12:33 AM
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Do you want precise measurements? A list of every possible disqualifier? Do you really think the guys saying "big boobs, not fat" don't have other disqualifiers they're not thinking of? Like they're probably imagining a woman with an average to above-average face, under a certain height, within a certain age range, with a certain amount of body hair removal and they're picturing those tits as average to above-average and not super uneven or hairy or with inverted nipples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:47 PM
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Being thin requires inaction (not eating), while being muscular requires action (lifting weights, eating a lot of protein, but not so much that you get fat) Anytime anyone makes this claim I don't believe they've ever tried losing weight via food restriction. It's being uncomfortable and irritable all the time vs being uncomfortable for a short period of time every day or two + feeling awesome when you're done + sleeping better as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:41 PM
2

Tbh I think casual age gap relationships are much likelier to be good experiences for the younger party than committed ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:23 PM
2

A lesbian growing up and living her entire life in a community that constantly tells her that her attraction to women is wrong and unnatural is under a massive amount of pressure to pretend she's straight. Unmarried, non- or moderately religious women may feel some pressure to marry, but it doesn't even come close to the same levels. Christian communities encourage "duty sex" within marriages which the women aren't expected to like. They also encourage women to be very submissive and never bring…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:17 AM

It hasn't, really. I grew up in a liberal, non-religious home and never internalized any of that stuff during my childhood. As an adult I've been fairly promiscuous and none of my boyfriends have cared -- they've all been similar and if anything they thought about it as something we had in common. I was never trying to date religious conservatives or reddit nerds for that matter. Dudes here want to scream and cry about how "all men care" or whatever but the reality is that if you date a certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:29 PM
7

The terms "introvert" and "extrovert" have been expanded far beyond their original definitions. I am introverted. I need a lot of alone time and get extremely stressed out when oversocialized. I'm not nerdy. I go out to bars. I used Tinder heavily when I was single and liked it in part because I am most comfortable with one-on-one interactions. At the end of the day I wanted to date someone with compatible taste in leisure activities, and that was never going to be the gamer guy who thinks I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:45 PM
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If someone wants advice on how to have casual sex and specifies that, I can give that advice. I'd be naturally somewhat limited -- my experience is as a woman who has had a bunch of casual sex with men -- but I can tell them more or less what works for me and what will work on women who are kinda similar to me. BUT if someone asks for advice on dating in general, they can't whine when the advice they get is relationship-oriented. It's like asking for a restaurant recommendation without specifyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:18 PM
2

You're allowed to be hurt when people don't want a romantic relationship with you. You're also allowed to be hurt when people don't want a platonic relationship with you. Doesn't mean those people are obligated to engage with you in the way you'd like them to, just that you're not a bad person for feeling a kind of way about it. It's nice to have a work friend. If your work friend leaves, your workday is a little less fun. If your work friend doesn't leave but stops being friendly with you as so…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 08:01 PM
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Nah, they'll tell you to dress well, get a flattering haircut, work out, and do skincare. All of which is great advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:25 PM
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Yes, the woman who doubted your ability to consent was ableist. Most of the women turning down autistic guys don't even know they're autistic and wouldn't be worried about their ability to consent if they did. They just know the guy is awkward. Lots of neurotypical people are awkward and don't come off well, and they also tend to struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:41 PM
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None of my friends complain about fuckboys. I've heard "I'm sad because he's not into me" but I can't remember the last time I heard "I'm sad because I got deceived into sex." Idk if my friend circle is smarter or chiller or just sluttier, it could be a generational thing but I doubt it's an age thing because I don't remember hearing my friends complain about it in college. Most of it is this: if you are not fussed about having casual sex and you only have sex you want to have -- it's impossible…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:28 AM
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Ask her out right away. The only difference between "pointless questions and excruciatingly painful small talk" with a new friend vs a date is entirely in your head. And I gotta say -- if I went on a date and felt that we were having excruciatingly painful small talk there would not be a second date, nor would we become friends. If you consider becoming her friend "a waste of time" if it doesn't eventually lead to a romantic relationship, don't do that. Duh??? You risk wasting your own time and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:22 PM
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Hooking up with a bunch of different guys is usually how you find those FWBs, and since you're not exclusive there's nothing to stop you continuing to hook up with a bunch of other guys, who might also turn into good FWBs -- or boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:43 PM
1

You gonna respond to literally anything else I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:02 AM
1

Anyone who gets this offended by a non-response on Tinder should be avoided, full stop. It's a dating app. Using it is a leisure activity. You use it in a way you enjoy, or you don't use it at all. A stranger who has literally never even had a conversation with you owes you nothing. Swipe when you wanna, message when you wanna. It's fine. Matches take a while to come in, lots of people are on and off dating apps or jut don't check them often, it makes sense to swipe on more people than you can t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:55 PM
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I think maybe dating just gets easier for a lot of people in their thirties regardless of gender, especially if they're not in a huge hurry to settle down and have kids. I found dating much easier in my early thirties than in my early twenties. I'm female. I was hot as balls in my early twenties and hung on to it pretty well so I don't think my looks were ever the issue. I became more confident and socially adept and less likely to get carried away by my emotions. Didn't really change my type or…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:56 PM
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I don't think it makes much of a difference -- all my longterm relationships have started with us sleeping together quickly. People who are bad in bed probably benefit from the wait the most, as someone who is already emotionally attached is less likely to give them the boot for being unimpressive. In female pickup the "right time" is supposedly right after the first major show of effort on his part, regardless of when that happens. There's literally no way to say if that works like they say it …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:28 PM
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lol no. I just don't see much point in obsessing over what's in their hearts if they're behaving well and I have no intention of pursuing anything more serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:24 PM
1

Then kick them out? Idk that's what I did when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:46 AM
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how on earth did you get that? FWIW I don't actually believe most normal dudes think poorly of their hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:45 AM
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Teaching men to fake it well enough to give women good sexual experiences... does not actually sound like the worst thing in the world. Unavoidable hazard of dating in general, even if you're super serious and relationship-focused about it. On the whole vastly less of a problem if it's just your hookups doing it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:54 AM
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If a guy who feels that way puts on a good mask, acts like a person and pleases me sexually -- I can live with that. He's doing what escorts get paid a lot of money to do, for free, and he's probably buying my drinks. If he's not good at hiding it we would be highly unlikely to even get as far as a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:45 PM
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Why not care about it? If I can have a good hookup with a man who sees it as a mutually pleasurable experience we are having together why would I bother with the guy who clearly thinks less of me for fucking him? The former is a vastly superior to the latter, and not hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:59 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with having/pursuing/wanting casual sex, regardless of gender. I do think you are massively downplaying how those men talk about casual sex and the women you have it in an attempt to make this reaction seem like an issue of wanting casual sex and not an issue of being a nasty little loser. I've thought about doing a Q4Men thread "What do you bring to the table as a casual sex partner" but idk if I want to see the levels of delulu it would bring out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:23 PM
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You see something very similar with religious men who think they have porn addictions. They mostly don't, they just have a lot of guilt and think they'll burn in hell for it and that's what screws them up sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:12 PM
1

A lot of times "X" acts as a bonus for women, too. I've definitely gone from "meh" to interested because a guy had "X." This isn't a "man problem" so much as a "maladjusted loser problem." They're not looking for advice, they're looking for reasons to call the woman giving the advice a liar. So "here are some traits I typically find attractive" makes them mad because she wouldn't date a hideous guy who had those traits. But she'd choose a less attractive guy with those traits over a more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:09 PM
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Generally if you're getting called "too nice" -- especially by friends and family -- it's out of concern because they see you getting walked all over. The problem isn't that you're pleasant and polite. The problem is that you're easily manipulated into sacrificing your own happiness for the benefit of others. Hard to say more than that without specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:50 PM
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The only time I've really tracked anything like this was in a relationship where I felt neglected sexually and knew he would be dismissive if I brought it up. I don't think it was "wrong" to do that but gosh it sure was a symptom of multiple things wrong with that relationship. I've also gone through phases where I've kept a journal. I wasn't "tracking" anything intentionally but it definitely made me more aware of certain patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:05 PM
2

As far as I can tell it means "blue collar, parties sometimes."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:21 PM
1

They're a bunch of squares who think their squareness is a virtue, and they're mad the same women they disdain as "trashy whores" aren't lining up to suck their dicks. They've designated all non-square men as "assholes" so they can whine that "women always go for assholes." Most people want a partner who shares their lifestyle and leisure activities. They don't want someone who looks down on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:50 PM
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Manipulation works. That's why people do it. All that shit works great on men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:05 PM
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The thing is that you're defining "bad boy" as "parties sometimes" and like, no shit? Chicks in their early twenties aren't gonna want to settle down with some straight edge STEM lord who thinks smoking a bit of weed and going out dancing are total degenerate activities done by "broken women." And to be fair, most of the guys that age likewise don't want to date the uptight boring lady who prioritizes marriage and babies and disdains partying. This is young people being young people. No one has …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:39 PM
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If the claim is "men with options don't marry sluts" then it makes perfect sense to point to the various men with lots of options who did just that. It's not "looking down on weak men" to point out that the claim being responded to is objectively untrue. It's also true that people who are not themselves sexually experienced are likelier to be insecure about sexually inexperienced partners. This isn't even entirely gendered, although it's not not gendered either. Again, stating a fact is not "loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:24 AM
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There's a certain type of jealousy that is less about not cheating and more about avoiding the appearance of/opportunity for cheating. Don't go to that party, don't follow that instagram, don't hang out with that friend. It's gross as shit and has no place in a healthy relationship. It's basically telling your partner, "I don't trust you and I think the only thing preventing you from cheating on me is a lack of opportunity." At which point you should just break up -- either you're right and they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:15 PM
1

Gay people of all genders often avoid dating people who are very recently out of the closet. I know someone who requires a full decade out of the closet and actively dating queer people. You can't spin it as sexism when they're dating the same sex. Maybe it's just logical? Very inexperienced women dating outside of conservative communities get it too. Guys are afraid they'll take too long, be lame in bed, and get super clingy after. Older virgin women often just lose it without disclosing for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:47 AM
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If you asked a bunch of men whether they would accept a one-sided but emotionally monogamous open relationship with an otherwise perfect woman and they all said "absolutely not" would you assume they were all lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:16 PM
3

Didn't work out great for me and not something I want to try again, but I don't have anything against it. Works fine for some people and it's really none of my business if it doesn't. I'd probably still prefer a moderately messy poly relationship over some Jonah Hill bullshit. I do think I learned things that make me a better partner in a monogamous relationship. It was disastrous enough to lay to rest some chronic jitters I had about monogamy, which was nice. It was good to think about relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:28 AM
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So the alpha thing to do is constantly be hyper aware of whether other men respect you and live your life in fear that they might not!? Okay. That sounds so masculine and dominant, it's making me wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:06 AM
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And of course the most "alpha" thing a guy can possibly do is make all his major life decisions based on whether some angry dudes on the internet think he's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:26 PM
0

Idk if it's pretty privilege or just demographics but the overwhelming majority of my hookups were willing and eager to put in the effort -- and I've had a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:48 PM
2

Dating is fine. It sucks for the unattractive/socially awkward -- but it always did and that's nothing new. The only difference is that they've all convinced themselves they're "average guys" who deserve better and come up with a silly conspiracy theory to explain why they're not getting the attention they believe they deserve. The sky isn't falling for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:34 AM

Men here: "if she doesn't fuck on the first date, doesn't dress like a nun and cut off all her male friends when you're together, or nags you about housework even a little she's not actually attracted to you and will cheat on you with Chad." Also men here: "are women narcissists for wanting to be desired by their sexual partners?" The fantasy you describe is a fairly specific one and not particularly common. Lots of women initiate sex because they want to have sex. At the same time I think most …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:26 PM
2

My boyfriend likes raves and I don't, literally I experience this all the time and don't care. He's often shirtless. He gets approached. I trust him. I also love going out to bars alone or with friends and I do often get hit on when I do that. Doesn't matter. I'm faithful. That type of controlling behavior seems deeply unhealthy to me. I'd rather get cheated on than live in relationship prison camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:11 PM
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In those cases the male partner doesn't know about it. He's not putting up with it just because the female partner likes it. That's miles away from the nonsensical scenario you've put forth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:50 AM
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he personally derives no pleasure from it. It's very weird to ask a question about cuckolds while removing the single most fundamental reason the vast majority of people in these arrangements choose them in the first place. There are couples like this where the guy just has virtually no sex drive or very little function but they're less common and I've literally never heard of a couple choosing to do cuckolding "just because" it's what the female half prefers. I'd argue that actual cucks (read: …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:56 AM
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Meh. Guys who care to can figure it out pretty fast. But really, am I supposed to offer up my body and have unpleasant sex in order to be "fair" to men? I will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:30 PM
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Why tf would I date someone who was bad in bed? Would you? Like what would be the point here? Esp for a fuckbuddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:29 AM
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All my boyfriends started as hookups. There's no "beta bux" option for me. If you're too ugly to be my one night stand you can't get into my panties by being boyfriend material. I like effeminate pretty boys across the board, too masc bores the crap out of me whether it's for dating or just sex. For romantic interest I require excellent sexual chemistry excellent conversational chemistry, shared values (read: leftist), fairly similar future plans (no kids, city life 4ever, etc), fairly similar d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:09 PM
1

This is why I never spent too much time chatting with Tinder dates and just set something up immediately. Anyway it's happened, it's part of the thing, I just kinda shrugged and didn't see him again. It was never a super wild misrepresentation, though. If it were I'd be annoyed but I never invested enough time or effort to feel that cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:37 PM
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Confidence and the ability to handle your own life are universally positive traits, not "toxic masculinity." Being non-dominant or depressed isn't "mentally weak." Like a lot of women, I've been tremendously turned off by bossy behavior from my dates. And lots of softbois with painted nails do in fact clean up. No one (aside from abusers) goes into dating thinking, "I want to date someone with depression and mental health issues." Some people go into dating thinking, "I want to date someone who …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:33 PM
1

He's blaming hookup culture for the phenomenon, but the complaint I find suspicious is "people break up over small things too easily." Like okay, clearly it wasn't small the to person who dumped you over it! And some people suck at communication obviously but usually these "frivolous" dealbreakers do get discussed before the breakup. If they're so "frivolous" then why wouldn't you just do the thing? If you refused doesn't that make you the one to initiate the breakup?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:06 PM
3

Pretty short guys just date pretty tiny women, IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:28 PM
2

Yeah okay because relationships never change with time and situations, lolololol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:10 AM
1

Yeah duh? But hey if everything else is great and your sex life is great you might be pretty well within reason to get married. Then five years later your spouse is fat and keeps hurting your feelings and you're super stressed with work and/or kids... you might feel a bit less interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:02 AM
1

I don't think it's common. I think it's more likely that they get stressed out and have fights that erode the relationship while their partner gets older and often less attractive and boom -- less interested. Most dead bedrooms posts will talk about how great everything was in the beginning and most of those LL partners weren't actually faking it. They were excited by someone new and exciting, and gradually the excitement waned. Which sucks, don't get me wrong! But I think a lot of people would …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:57 AM
1

Not really, all my boyfriends started out that way and the same is true of most of my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:06 PM
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You cannot have an abstract conversation about this that's in any way useful or productive. The specifics here make an enormous difference. Your friend whose girlfriend left -- how sure are you that you know the whole story there? Did she leave him because he made less than her? Or because she had the financial security to move out? Was the relationship great on her end too before the job change? Specifics matter. The "icks" usually apply to the early stages of dating. In more serious relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:17 PM
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I don't know a single couple that has broken up over differences in hobbies and entertainment preferences. Maybe a video game addiction? Which is not exactly a small thing, that massively affects your life and your time together. I asked you for specifics. You've given me one and a bunch of vague platitudes. I'm guessing you haven't thought this through too well?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:55 PM
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It's good that people aren't trapped in unhappy relationships. Anyway I'm one of those people who loves dating apps and hookup culture and I've still stayed in multiple relationships long past the time I should have left. Dating culture didn't get me to throw away a relationship that just needed some work -- although it did provide me with solace when I finally wised up. I'm always so suspicious of these types of POV. It seems like you just want to be able to mistreat your partner without any co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:31 PM
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Okay if his behavior was so fine and normal then why is it bad that she's revealing it? But it wasn't normal, and you know that deep down even if you're a Bible-clutcher. He entered into a relationship with someone who lived a certain lifestyle, waited until she was fully committed, and then dropped a bunch of controlling "boundaries" that interfered with her career and her friendships. He slid into her DMs over the "thot pics" (pictures of her doing her job as a surfer) so it's not like he didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:43 PM
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Yes, she's well within her rights. Don't treat people like shit if you don't want them to talk about how you treated them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:33 PM
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You're right, but people here get really mad when you say it. PPD users are as a group very upset by natural variations and will happily handwave anyone who doesn't fit their theories as "outliers" even though "outliers" make up the majority of the population. Most well-adjusted people find FDS and TRP repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:50 PM
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He is. He's also a loser. Excessive jealousy and controlling behavior should be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:34 PM
1

Same insecurity farming but instead of profit they're motivated to bring you down to their level. You have been successfully manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:30 PM
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You've been a victim of insecurity farming. Red pill gurus need to sell their expensive "masculinity programs" or whatever and it's very hard to sell those to men who don't feel tremendously insecure about their dating interactions. So they make content pushing the idea that XYZ common behavior is absolute proof that the woman in question isn't actually attracted to you. There are dozens of reasons a woman might not sleep with you on a first date, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:28 PM
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Y'all get your knickers in a twist when an OF model says something like "yeah I don't want to date a man who can't handle my job." If you interpret anything other than "yes those women are unloveable whores and the men who date them are cucks" as shaming your decisions... then yes, and it's a good thing. Get shamed. No one is forcing you to date a sex worker. You can't force other people not to judge your preferences, and you can't pretend that your preferences say nothing about you as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:19 PM
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the stigma of 'i don't have the time to teach a inexperienced guy how to fuck ' is rarely reserved for the selfish lovers the same way as virgins are a turn off. Because you can't find out about them without sleeping with them. I would not date a virgin -- but I've kicked out selfish lovers mid-coitus. But yeah, go ahead and lie about it. If you can try hard and ask her what works for her you should be able to give her a good enough experience that she won't be able to tell and won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:10 PM
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Can confirm, unknowingly deflowered a guy once and ghosted because he was bad at sex. Felt pretty bad when I found out years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:58 PM
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I'd tell her that if she wants to do sex work she should go to a strip club or do by-the-hour stuff independently instead. Most "sugar daddies" are cheap boundary-pushing trash but the rare good ones usually start as clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:13 PM
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Women in societies where legal rights have moved faster than social norms have a frequent tendency to opt out of dating all together. You see this in Korea, too. When your options are singlehood or a very traditional relationship where you're expected to do all the housework and tolerate cheating... surprise, surprise, a lot of women will choose singlehood. Japan also has an iNSANE work culture, which is definitely a factor. No time to go on dates, have a relationship or raise a child when you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:35 PM
1

Drugs, drinking and dating hot people are all fun and normal things to enjoy!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:49 AM
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There's a difference between venting about the normal difficulties of dating and blaming a whole gender for the fact that you can't find a partner. I don't think people who do the first are necessarily losers, but all the people who do the second definitely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:04 AM
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Some of them probably are!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:47 PM
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Everyone has situations where they'd find dating impossible. I'd do very poorly in a gay bathhouse or an Evangelical church. This is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:02 AM
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Men here are convinced their dating troubles are male problems when they are in fact loser problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:56 PM
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Dating is "impossible" for ugly losers. It's a normal amount of hard for the rest of the population. If you're finding it "impossible" you're either an ugly loser or you're so impatient that you're probably not a good partner for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:54 PM
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"Whaaaa, dating is so hard for men, we have no options!!" But also: "let's disqualify women based on the dumbest possible criteria." Y'all are only pulling this shit so you can whine about dating is hard, CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:20 AM
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Yes, people with OCD experience intrusive thoughts. It sucks. Fortunately, the majority of people do not experience these things, and those who do can get treatment. Several behaviors that red pillers claim are common among women are not actually common but are a lot more common among sexual trauma survivors. Fortunately, most of us are not sexual trauma survivors. Most of what they describe as "female nature" is stuff experienced by a small number of mentally ill women and even they aren't doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:38 PM
10

TIL that traveling isn't a new experience, but playing video games on an expensive gaming computer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:13 PM
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They weren't lied to. They're just morons. Being very stupid also makes dating harder, leading to increasing disillusionment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:05 PM
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I guess my only disagreement with you here is semantic -- people can and do move on from rough patches and past bad behavior. I don't think my ex intended to end our relationship -- I think he hoped to maintain it as it was, because that suited him just fine and it didn't particularly bother him that I was unhappy. I ended it. But you are getting very close to something the men here never, ever want to admit or even consider -- the percentage of women who file for divorce probably has a whole lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:54 AM
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I've known numerous men whose method of using Tinder was to simply swipe right on everyone until they ran out of swipes and not even look at the profiles unless it was a match. They would unmatch or simply not respond to insufficiently attractive matches. They weren't not filtering. They were just saving time by only filtering the women they already knew were interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:59 AM

Catching them is harder. Controlling them once you have them is easier. They will put up with all kinds of bullshit an older more experienced woman would run screaming from for good reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:46 PM
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I've dated a bunch of fit guys, some of them seriously enough that I had a pretty accurate idea of their routines and diets. Genetics + physical jobs do a lot. I have the good genes too, the way my body looks if I do light pilates on the regular and don't eat like a monster would take some women a dedicated gym routine + a strict diet + possibly plastic surgery. And dudes here are like "oh yes, being thin is super easy." Yeah, for me. Being fit is super difficult for you. There's a wide range he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:05 PM
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I did when I was single. The age I was willing to hook up with is lower than the age I was willing to date -- that said, I tend to prefer men a little younger in general. I've known other women who would hook up with younger men but not date them, and women who preferred men their age or older even for hookups. My boyfriend spent his early twenties as cougar bait and rarely hooked up with women his own age or younger. At least some of that was personal preference on his end, but clearly they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:49 PM
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Stop downvoting, it's against the rules. What argument? That people want what they can't have? That I personally have gotten more romantic interest when I wasn't trying to lock down a relationship? Both are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:28 PM
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Anecdotes from men = absolute truth. Anecdotes from women = lies. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:02 PM
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The OP is anecdotal, too. In the absence of research, anecdata is all we have. But "people perceive things that are difficult to attain as more valuable" is supported by research. It's not like I was ever dating the kind of guys who would be put off by me multidating casually. I was dating guys who were doing the exact same thing and considered that behavior normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:57 PM
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I don't think this is entirely gendered. I've always gotten the most interest when I've been at my most emotionally unavailable. It's the human condition to want what seems unattainable. If I tell men straight up, early on, "I like you and would like a relationship with you" they decide I'm clingy and lose interest. If I make it kinda clear they're just part of my rotation and I'm not really looking for anything serious, they pull out all the stops to get me to change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:41 PM
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If you can't handle "feeling like an option" for a person you've literally never met or even talked to... that is a problem for your therapist. But yeah I doubt it would do anything at all. A lot of matches can mean "extremely desirable" or just "been on this app for a really long time." Very few can mean "no one wants me" or just "I am new here."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:20 PM
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It's purity culture imported from Evangelicals. It's awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:19 PM
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The women aren't staying low. It's just a small number having a lot of casual sex with a lot of people. Most women aren't doing that, so the average stays low.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:00 PM
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The answer is that those women are also keeping a number of men in rotation. A lot of posters here seem to think that it's all very relationship-oriented low-n women in "harems." It's actually just a bunch of sluts hooking up with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:45 PM
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NoFap is bullshit. “Reboot,” especially NoFap, promotes abstinence from masturbation and/or pornography to treat “pornography addiction,” an unrecognized diagnosis. While the intention of Reboot/NoFap is to decrease distress, qualitative studies have consistently suggested that “Reboots” paradoxically cause more distress. The distress appears to occur in response to (1) the abstinence goal, which recasts common sexual behaviors as personal “failures,” and (2) problematic and inaccurate Reboot/No…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:42 PM
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I don't have one, but thanks for confirming what I suspected already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:16 PM
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Sincerely curious: are you a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:30 AM
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Right? The push to larger models is 100% about online shoppers wanting to see how clothing will fit them and being able to advertise as "inclusive" is just a bonus. Here these guys are caterwauling because VS models don't give them boners anymore. Anyone with a computer can access an infinite supply of images of hot women, it's not like there's a shortage. They always act like body positivity is a bunch of fat girls saying "hey you better be attracted to me or the woke mob will get you!!!" when …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:32 AM
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Good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:18 PM
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I understand the guys who are insecure about it, and I respect them far more than the ones who go around talking shit about women who don't meet their standards. If you know you have that insecurity, you are better off finding someone who doesn't trigger it. Good on you for having the self-knowledge to not drive some poor woman fucknuts with your mental health issue. But also -- and sorry if this is harsh -- I don't give a shit about your problems. I don't care if you get lied to or struggle to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:40 PM
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It includes gender identity but not libido level. And bisexual women are by far the largest group of queer-identified people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:21 PM
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I think most reasonable guys are fine with it happening occasionally -- because it only happens occasionally, so it feels sorta special and flattering. My boyfriend once worked food service at a circuit festival and got catcalled intensely the entire time. The first day, it was kinda funny. The second day, it started to get old. By the third day he was absolutely sick of it and just wanted to do his job without fielding constant unwanted come-ons. Even the stuff that wasn't explicitly gross or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:49 PM
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20% of Gen Z identifies as queer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:09 PM
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20% of Gen Z identifies as queer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:08 PM
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Why can't it be a bit of both? More people are openly queer these days and I know a bunch of bi women who have just stopped dating men in favor of pursuing women. It's weird to pretend it's not a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:10 PM
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Are they specifying heterosexual relationships? Because otherwise it makes sense that a lot of women are in relationships with other women and not just confused about whether or not they're in a relationship with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:12 AM
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Her dad is a billionaire and she's dated a bunch of elderly celebrities, clearly she just has some kind of fetish. Feels gross to bring a kid into that but I don't think either of them are taking advantage of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:24 AM
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Yeah because it's viscerally gross but not because he's a groomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:21 AM
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Have you considered that it's also just a fundamentally weird thing to post photos of people just for the sake of calling them ugly? Have you also considered that JP is a fucking joke who says a lot of insane stuff and people just like dunking on him for the sake of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:30 AM
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It was definitely grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:29 AM
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No one gave a shit when George Clooney married a woman 17 years his junior -- on the contrary, he was lauded for going after someone so clearly intelligent and highly accomplished. Most reasonable people stop caring about age gaps once the younger partner is past mid twenties or so. Al Pacino just knocked up a 29 year old and no one is screaming "grooming" even though the age gap is enormous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:24 AM
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If you want to pretend that clothing companies started using larger models for literally no reason other than woke, be my guest. You can even believe that corporations have souls! They don't. This is a calculated decision made by people who have devoted their lives to understanding how to make people buy things. Jordan Peterson didn't "simply say he did not find a large model beautiful." He acted like it was insane that anyone would find her beautiful and got a bad reaction, even from his own fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:02 AM
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Did you not read the second paragraph or is your reading comprehension just really bad? Yes, that worked when selling clothes was about creating a cool brand so that people would go into your store to try on and purchase clothing. If you are making the vast majority of your sales online, exclusively using models who are thinner than 95% of the population actually bites you in the ass because people can't tell how your clothes will look on their bodies and are less likely to purchase. And it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:38 PM
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They're a lot more similar than the terpy losers would like to admit! And when they're doing the exact same thing they usually have the exact same reasons for doing the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:16 PM
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Men are not on OnlyFans like "Boy, I bet she's an interesting person." Lol yes they are, it's actually a huge part of marketing for a lot of more successful SW. I'm one of them and you would not believe how many clients cite "you seem fun and interesting" as one of their reasons for booking me. Obviously they care that I'm hot -- but there are lots of hot girls online and they're choosing me over equally/more attractive women because I am interesting. There are loads of reasons women are less li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:03 PM
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Sure, but we're not an entirely different species. If you want to ask "why do men do this but not women?" that's a different discussion. But if you're sitting there totally baffled women are doing something that men also do -- the motivations are probably the same. Men often enjoy eating a nice steak. So do women. Do you assume they have completely different motivations for enjoying something that is enjoyable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:40 PM
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Literally no one is forcing you to find these people attractive -- the goal is to sell clothes, not provide free jerkoff material. Do men routinely browse the Abercrombie & Fitch online store in order to look at attractive women? And if so, how much money do these men spend? The rise of online shopping has more to do with it than anything else, and being able to market as "inclusive" is just the cherry on top. When people went to the store and tried stuff on marketing was more about selling a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:11 PM
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It's fun to have sex with a person who is attractive, good in bed/compatible with you, and reasonably pleasant to hang out with. No shit? This isn't rocket science -- some of you buy into "men and women are different" so hard that you end up totally baffled by completely reasonable behaviors. I always had a bunch of casual sex when I was single because it was fun and pleasurable. It's how I met all my boyfriends, but that wasn't what I was looking for when I did it. The guys who ended up as boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:04 PM
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It's not insecurity that 15 -10% look ideal to me while the lower body fat percentages look kinda gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:13 PM
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They might be small in number, but they 100% exist... and a lot of them, rather than openly dating the fat women they prefer, hook up with those fat women in secret while putting significant effort into pursuing thin women who have higher standards and more competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:25 PM
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Or been around a group of women swiping on Tinder. WILD. I am consistently shocked by the guys my friends think are an obvious right swipe and they're just as baffled by the ones I think are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:53 PM
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Men generally want women desired by other men. Men with unusual tastes will often hide their preferences to avoid ridicule by other men, and will avoid being seen in public with a woman they don't think other men will find desirable, even if he likes her. I've told this story before, but I literally know a fat woman who had an affair with a man while he was married to a famously beautiful female celebrity. They initially met when he hired her as his sex worker. He's kinda famous himself and has …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:51 PM

My shittiest boyfriend treated me incredibly well for literally years and only dropped the mask when we were already living together. And even then, he wasn't terrible 100% of the time. He spent a lot of time building a loving, trusting relationship and put me in a situation where breaking up required serious effort on my part. And because leaving him was a process, it was possible for him to disrupt that process by acting like the version of himself I fell in love with, giving me false hope tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:47 PM

I've had great sex with guys I was medium on and instantly became way more attracted to them. Obviously there was some initial attraction there or I would never have slept with them in the first place, but it definitely dramatically increased. I've never had initial bad sexual chemistry develop into good sexual chemistry, although to be fair I typically haven't given too many additional chances there. My boyfriends all started as hookups so I didn't really have a reason to stick around if the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:47 PM
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They define every man who isn't a meek nerd as an "asshole" and then complain that women always go for assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:41 PM
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As far as I can tell, a "bad boy" is someone who works a blue collar job, has tattoos, and parties sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:12 PM
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Or maybe she just likes doing drugs and wants a partner who will do that with her? Everyone I know who has gone into recovery, regardless of gender, has told me that not drinking makes dating harder. Because people like doing drugs (and yes, alcohol is a drug) and want partners who will do those drugs with them. Sobriety handicaps you with everyone who isn't also sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:46 PM
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Yeah because it's assumed that someone in their mid-thirties is adult enough to make their own decisions. Aside from the TikTok Puriteens freaking out over nineteen year olds dating seventeen year olds, most reasonable people stop being bothered by age gaps once the younger party is past mid-twenties or so. This is also why George Clooney got no backlash to marrying a woman seventeen years his junior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:43 PM
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Tbf my reaction to this when I was single was to put my clothes on and leave without ever progressing to PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:47 PM
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We would never get as far as PIV sex and I would not continue dating him. I would never find out about the exes. If I were dating a guy who went down on me occasionally but had never done it for anyone else -- we would break up. In that scenario I'd be getting "better" than his previous girlfriends but I don't continue having sex with people who only go down on me "occasionally." I care about whether I'm satisfied, not whether I'm winning some stupid competition in my head. Someone asks a variat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:38 PM
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"Be yourself" is one of the maligned by people who don't understand what it means. It doesn't mean "don't put your best foot forward." It means "don't be someone else." You can't meet people who like you for you if you're acting out a totally different fake persona. You're actually scaring off your best matches by doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:46 PM
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You're very welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:18 PM
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she will most likely desire a hyper-competitive, stoic, emptionless, taller, wealthier, ambitious man who serves as a proective and pioneering spirit that a young woman would like to accompany. Lolololol this guy sounds like a fucking drag, tall and wealthy is great to have but less important than hot and fun, stoic and emotionless and hyper-competitive makes my pussy dry right up. I don't think I'm unusual in any of this. I disagree with your entire premise because I don't think you actually kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:29 PM
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Yes, I care. The guys I dated who weren't so great didn't advertise that fact! On the contrary, they hid it pretty well and presented an image of themselves that simply did not align with who they turned out to be. Lies and manipulation work. That's why people do them. If I went about dating fully ready and willing to lie about who I am and what I want, cover up all my potential dealbreakers, and use manipulation tactics with 0 guilt -- I'd have probably been more successful than I was. I didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:14 PM
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It's because all the stuff you've ever read about the "women are wonderful" effect was total bullshit. Women are very harshly judged for all kinda of shit and a lot of men don't really comprehend us as full human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:26 PM
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Men with minor dick problems are often above-average lays, which is why I've dated so many of them. I'm good at communicating what I want and if I really like someone I'll give him a second chance. BUT if he's ungenerous or bad at taking instruction, it's a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:00 PM
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Imagine getting three months in with a really great guy and catching feelings only to discover that the sex totally sucks. I'd way rather just bang on the first date and ghost him if he's bad. If the sex is great and I like him and he ghosts me I'll be disappointed -- but not as disappointed as I'd be forming an emotional connection to a man who doesn't satisfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:47 PM
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The term incel wasn't quite so commonly tossed around in 2009 but we definitely called her a "nice girl" which is exactly OP's criticism. Regardless, what is "not like other girls" if not "nice guys" but women? They're very similar concepts! Nice guys go on about Chad the way Taylor goes on about her cheerleader nemesis -- the shared belief is that they're superior to their more successful rivals (stereotyped as shallow and cruel) and more deserving of romantic attention. But yeah go ahead and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:50 AM
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Yeah, you have a point. Just got accused of "rewriting history" because it's not on wikipedia. Like no, I WAS THERE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:53 PM
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I was a college student at the time, I literally remember it being a major thing! Like I'm not surprised her wikipedia article doesn't cite any of the numerous screeds about it published on now-defunct feminist blogs but that most assuredly does not mean they didn't exist, or weren't widely read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:09 PM
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The stigma over small age gaps is overblown -- a few nutters making Tiktoks that get widely mocked is not a significant trend. If anything they're making it easier for young men to find same-aged partners and harder for old guys to pursue young women -- neither of which are bad things -- but again, I don't think this trend is significant enough to have much effect at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:07 PM
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Men are less likely to be interested in that type of criticism in general. It's not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:28 PM
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Lol dated post but yeah, when the song first came out it was heavily criticized for these exact reasons, by feminists specifically. It's weird that you don't know this??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:14 PM
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It's even possible she started trying pretty young. My mother had me at thirty-eight because that's when she was in a position to pay for IVF. She was aware of her fertility issues long before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:21 AM
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I've been on so many dates with awkward dudes where I lead the conversation. I wonder if any of them even noticed or thought of what I was doing as "labor." I doubt it. And to be fair, I never really resented them for it unless they were super tough to crack. Getting them to loosen up and engage me in an interesting conversation benefited both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:14 AM
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I also got people assuming my weight was double digits when it very much was not. A whole lot of men don't actually have any idea what numbers mean when it comes to weight, bra size and even age yet a baffling number of them are very confident in their wrongness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:06 PM

Are you under the impression that men universally respond well to sexual criticisms? It's a delicate issue that people are super sensitive about, you can couch it as carefully as possible and a large number of people -- regardless of gender -- are going to respond poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:21 PM
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A 5'4" 110 pound woman is skinny, on the edge of underweight. I'm 5'3" and when I weighed 110 pounds I was tiny, no one was calling me "average" and I'd skip my period if I lost even a smidge of weight that month. I weigh more than that now and am still a size 4. This comment is revealing but I can't decide exactly what it reveals -- either you literally have no idea what numbers actually look like and are talking out of your ass with great confidence, or you just have an incredibly skewed idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:58 PM
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It's deeply weird that you think "good guys" don't have sex and don't want to have sex. I can see how you would believe that... if your entire life experience consisted of watching dated high school movies where the only guys who fuck are mean jocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:23 PM
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I don't really think that hating on "no effort" dates is a normal thing outside certain corners of the internet. Every woman I know, including myself when I was dating, was fine with or actively preferred just meeting for a drink. It's great! You can bounce after one drink if you're not feeling it and the sum total of "date planning" is "hey let's go to this bar."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:52 AM
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Porn was literally just as widely available in 2010 and full of all the stuff you mention. Again, the issue isn't the kinks -- many of which are widely enjoyed by a variety of genders. It's the lack of negotiation and the coercion. They aren't doing that stuff because they're "addicted to porn." They're doing it because they're abusers, or at best because they're idiots who think women will enjoy non-negotiated "dominance."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:01 PM
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Men did all that stuff before widely available porn, too. The issue isn't the porn, or the kinky desires -- it's the coercion. Attempting to treat abusive, sexually coercive behavior as "porn addiction" is not going to help anything. It lets abusive men off the hook because now they're "struggling with addiction." Abuser programs exist and have a whole lot more basis in science than porn addiction programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:13 PM
1

Yeah, I'd lie my ass off. I don't even think it's unethical. I also dgaf about women who lie about their sexual history in the opposite direction, I'm consistent that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:17 PM
-1

I never said that! Find someone who doesn't care or fake it. There are women who won't mind and I don't think it's actually unethical to lie about it. If you got "older virgins give up" out of my comment, you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:16 PM
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I've seen totally unproblematic porn use labeled as "addiction." Stuff like nineteen year olds jerking off once a day, or enjoying certain kinks, etc. People from religious backgrounds with non-normative and/or non-heterosexual interests are much likelier to self-identify as porn addicts. Anyway, problematic porn use is a thing, but it's not an addiction and treating it as one is wildly ineffective. It's pretty much always tied to a bigger underlying mental health problem and that needs to be tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:59 PM
0

Older virgins are a higher difficulty setting. Most people their age have a certain amount of sexual and relationship experience that makes them a little "easier" -- you communicate your preferences but you don't have to teach them the same way. You also don't have to deal with their feelings of inadequacy and FOMO. I know a queer person who specifies "ten years out of the closet and dating queer people" as the absolute bare minimum for the people they date. Not hard to find at their age, but y'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:54 PM
1

"Porn addition" isn't questionably real at best and the vast majority of self-identified "porn addicts" don't remotely qualify. I would argue the myth that it's real and common is a form of shaming male sexuality. Female sexuality is also shamed in modern society and I think a lot of men forget that or just see that shaming as totally normal and reasonable vs their shaming, which is Very Bad. I'd even argue that the porn addiction stuff shames female sexuality as well -- kinky women and sex work…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:22 AM
2

My ex was great in bed for the first two years and then abruptly got kinda bad. I stayed because I loved him, we already lived together, and I knew he was capable of better so I hoped it was just a weird patch. He was still getting me off and stuff, it wasn't the worst sex ever, it was just really sad and quick and routine and he had no interest in changing that. I care about sex a lot and wasn't content with a boring quickie once a week. It wasn't the only reason I left him in the end, but it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:37 PM
1

Yeah, but if you find a fun one you don't cut off the fun one you already found. You just keep hooking up with both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:59 PM
3

You just next them til you find the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:07 AM
6

I always had a rotation when I was single. If I didn't I would go on dates until I did. My friends who have casual sex tend to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:37 AM
3

That's not the same thing at all. This guy was single and not cheating on anyone, nor did he intend to. He was just sick of dealing with crap about his sexuality. I doubt he'd have continued to keep it secret in an actual a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 11:40 PM
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It's fine, tbh. He's being worse to himself than to anyone else, and I think a genuinely caring partner would be sympathetic to his struggle (and he'd absolutely been through it in ways I don't feel comfortable disclosing here) rather than centering their own feelings about a deception that didn't meaningfully affect the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:36 PM
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I personally find it attractive. Couldn't speak to how common it is for women to find it a positive or neutral trait vs a turnoff -- I'm aware that all those things happen. I'm sure it hugely varies by demographic, with more conservative women being much more turned off. Guys who date/socialize in conservative circles have way more incentive to stay closeted/in denial so #1 is probably a bigger issue there, versus left-leaning environments where you just assume the guy wouldn't bother faking an …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:02 PM
6

Red pillers, describing the most tedious and exhausting man alive: "this is what women actually want and if they say otherwise they're lying!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:52 PM
4

They don't post much on there because they get mobbed with creepy DMs. r/relationships and r/relationship_advice on the other hand are full of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:26 PM
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Yes, being aggressive towards strangers for looking at me wrong would put me off him and make me unhappy enough to leave. Not only does it sound incredibly tedious, but it's the type of psychotic behavior that would make me concerned for my own safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:47 PM
25

If I were hanging out with my boyfriend and he suddenly got aggressive with a guy who looked at me wrong... I would be single very soon after.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:51 AM
7

I'd prefer the first one. If someone's hitting on me and I'm brushing him off appropriately the absolute last thing I need is a boyfriend who makes it into a big deal. Sounds exhausting and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:36 AM
11

People didn't get married that early in the 1400s either! Those ultra early marriages were about sealing alliances and weren't consummated til much, much later. Normal people married in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:11 PM
1

I've read that people with very jealous, suspicious partners are likelier to cheat because they feel as if they've already been punished for a crime they never had the pleasure of committing -- interesting to see the phenomenon confirmed. But yeah, no shit, people often cheat when they're unhappy in the relationship, whether due to distance or lack of sex or constantly being a target of suspicion. I have no idea what your question has to do with any of this. People have always cheated. This just…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:36 PM
4

I don't care. I have sex because I want to have sex. If he's bad I'll ghost, if he's really bad I'll kick him out in the middle. I'm not fucking in exchange for a relationship. At most, I'm fucking as part of the process of figuring out if I want a relationship -- and sometimes I already know I don't but he's still cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:22 PM
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I'm with you. I want to know about sexual compatibility before I get attached. I might be sad if some guy I liked ghosts after, but I'll be even sadder if I invest three months into someone and catch feelings and then find out the sex is awful. At the end of the day it's up to your personal comfort levels. I'm not prescriptivist and I don't give a single shit about the hurt dudes mad you did it earlier for someone else. I just disagree that a three month wait is necessary or even good to the poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:11 PM
2

My parents were both well into their thirties when they met and have an extremely happy and loving marriage. They very much attribute their success to having both lived very rich, full lives before they met. I'm glad I grew up with that -- it's actually somewhat unusual among my friends, most of whom have younger parents, most of whom are divorced or noticeably unhappy together. Older marriages are likelier to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:51 PM
3

That seems like a reasonable concern. It doesn't reflect poorly on the virgin. Women who lose their virginity late and don't date in conservative circles tend to get the same thing -- guys are afraid they'll get clingy after. I've definitely heard of a few who got turned down multiple times on those grounds, and some of them went on to lose it without disclosing. It's also common among queer people to avoid dating the too-recently-out for basically the same reason. If someone spent their life in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:12 PM
1

It's because most of us either dated older men at that age or watched our friends date them and a lot of us experienced or witnessed those older men being absolute trash. Like there are obviously exceptions to this but I think some people spend a lot of time coming up with wild theories about why people are suspicious of age gap relationships when the answer is usually simply "life experience." That said: 23/30 isn't that big an age gap and my very unpopular opinion is that age gap FWB relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:48 PM
1

No one's denying that Eugenes exist -- the point is that there are plenty of people out there who don't have the looks or the lifestyle to get offers without trying, and simply don't bother to try because they don't want to date right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:24 AM
2

You can think that all you want but it doesn't mean you're right. Single by choice doesn't mean "single by choice forever and ever" nor does it mean "antisocial." I've known plenty of people who took years off of dating and then got back to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:05 AM
1

If you're eventually going to share finances then your combined earnings are going to have a huge effect on your lifestyle together. If your partner makes very little you are going to have to downgrade your lifestyle to at least some extent. It's popular to say that men don't care about women's careers . For one thing, this isn't entirely true. For another, unless you plan to support a SAHM and make enough money to do that, you should care and you're kinda dumb if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:43 PM
1

The best way to not come off badly is to not be too vulgar or pushy and to back off quickly if you sense disinterest. Also don't approach women walking in isolated areas after dark. I've been approached in all kinds of places and I wasn't creeped out by anyone who followed those very basic rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:54 PM
1

Lots of people who don't get offers are single by choice, regardless of what you think. Some of them not so much. It's hard to determine from the outside (and I'm kinda not sure why it's any of your business) but it's pretty obvious from the inside. Like a lot of single by choice people aren't getting any offers because they don't put themselves in situations where they'd get offers and they don't care much about their appearance because they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:40 PM
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Regardless, I don't think it really matters whether or not someone is getting offers if they genuinely don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:10 PM
4

I do not own a dog. I do not want to own a dog because it sounds like a pain in the ass that would piss off my cat. I would say that I'm dogless by choice, even though no one is offering me puppies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:41 PM
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I would dump someone who made that request. I don't do jealous bullshit in relationships and I don't tolerate it either. I don't want that type of relationship and I am highly suspicious of anyone who does. I would straight-up rather get cheated on. Lots of people don't wear revealing clothes or post thirst traps even when they're single -- why not date one of them instead, if it's such a big deal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:26 PM
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This just reads like you're mad you can't mistreat your girlfriend without running the risk of getting dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:59 PM
1

Lol dude this is why I don't think guys like you should see hookers, you sound like a fucking nightmare client and all your local ladies would be better off with you staying out the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:24 PM
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Lol go to the LV store and try to haggle, they'll laugh in your face. Which is exactly what I do, too. There are guys willing to pay my rate, why deal with some cheap loser who can't respect my boundaries? If they want to see me but can't afford or don't want to pay my rate... that's just too bad for them. Anyway don't see hookers if you're too much of a pussy to see hookers, but don't whine that it's "impossible" when it's objectively not that hard for men who aren't massive pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:55 PM
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If it's the law you're worried about, exclusively seeing sex workers who require screening is actually a pretty slam dunk way to avoid ever getting caught in a sting. If you're worried about screening, I literally don't give a shit about your problems. That's a perfectly understandable safety precaution on her end and the chances of you getting blackmailed or exposed over it are basically nil, whereas the chances of her getting attacked by you are much, much higher. No one likes a haggler. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:33 PM
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It's not hard to hire a sex worker, and the risk for the buyer is low even in places where it's illegal. I do know more about this than you do -- I am a sex worker in a criminalized area, and have been for quite some time. Like you gotta use your big head, don't go for "to good to be true" deals and do your research but it's not actually that difficult. Expensive, sure, but you can go low-end if you're okay with a certain type of experience. The main reason I don't recommend it is that I don't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:56 PM
2

Wait til you're three years in with that very attractive woman and I can bet you're only eating pussy on birthdays and anniversaries, if that. You never really enjoyed it, you just did it to keep her around. If you later realize that bait and switching yourself into a relationship with a sexually incompatible person was actually a bad idea you may not eat pussy for the next woman even if she's much more attractive. I do find it interesting that you're not pretending to enjoy these things -- you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:06 PM
2

Fun fact: strippers read PUA books for work strategy. All that shit works. It's not gendered. I think a lot of men want to believe that PUA tactics work exclusively on women because of some bullshit about female nature. Those men are idiots. Surprise! Manipulation is effective! That's why people do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:56 PM
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Sexual attraction is absolutely a factor and I think you'd find the same for men. Being turned on by your partner makes sex better. No one is denying that. It does not follow that people have weird tiered sex menus depending on how hot the other person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:55 PM
3

I like the things I like. If I'm attracted to someone enough to want to have sex with them, I want to do the things I enjoy. I'm not going to hold off on the things I enjoy just because the guy isn't hot enough. Some of you absolutely cannot comprehend female sexuality as anything other than a reaction to a specific man. Most men want to do their kinks with all their partners, regardless of how attractive those partners may be and don't really find this confusing. That's a normal human sexuality…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:09 PM
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Or their life changed, they have different responsibilities, different medications, new health problems, etc etc. Or maybe the ex was just more sexually generous than you and she'd fuck you just as much if you went down on her as much as he did. There are a gazillion different possible factors and if you want to boil it down to desire you can but that doesn't mean you're right. So why not focus on what you can know, beyond all shadow of a doubt: are you happy and satisfied in this relationship? …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:44 AM
9

I would literally never find out because we would simply not have sex or go on more dates. It makes no difference on my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:35 AM
4

I've dated a couple guys with serious mental health issues. There's an ENORMOUS difference. Literally night and day. A big thing is reciprocity. My ex would cry on me all the time but would get actually mad at me if I had a bad day and needed comfort even though that happened much more rarely in comparison. His problems were worse, how dare I ask for any type of support from him, that kind of thing. My boyfriend on the other hand is absolutely willing to return the favor when needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:13 AM
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"Mutual abuse" is not actually that common. It happens, but in most situations one person is reacting in self-defense and there's a clear power dynamic in which the abuser still gets most of what they want, they just get hit back every so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:29 PM
10

Like if you're gonna cite celeb relationships as examples I can point out that you're misreading the situation? She was pretty open about it at the time! Doesn't mean she was telling the truth but realistically you probably don't know the whole truth about most of your close friends' breakups either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:47 PM
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Abusers commit abuse because it works. They get a relationship on their terms, whatever that means. Someone who is scared to set you off is a lot more likely to be agreeable and go along with whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:46 PM
11

Giselle always had way more money than him and divorced him because she was sick of living in cities she didn't enjoy, doing all the parenting solo, and having to put her own career on hold. She did not sign up for a "traditional marriage" and she was unhappy when she ended up in one anyway. (Except it wasn't traditional because she was still paying for shit.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:34 PM
14

Okay but you can have all those things in an egalitarian relationship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:07 PM
1

It may surprise you that it's possible to just shrug and go, "welp, I'm not for everyone." Rejection stings but it doesn't seem particularly fruitful to obsess over the possible reasons. It might be something I can't or won't change and it might have absolutely nothing to do with me -- maybe he started seeing someone new, or he's still hung up on an ex, or just isn't in a place to date right now. I'm not gonna find out either way. It doesn't have to be anyone's fault. He's not a bad person for n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:46 PM

A LOT of them are gay and don't give a shit as to whether or not men will date them. For the straights, there are plenty of men who don't care and honestly they're a lot more fun than the ones who do. "Oh but most men--" Who tf cares, no one is trying to date "most men." You only need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:45 PM
0

You don't actually value the connection at all if you feel that way. You are being deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:01 PM
1

Okay, so don't deceive a woman into thinking that you value her and want to be with her and then complain that you're getting the bad end of the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:17 PM
2

They literally cannot comprehend the idea that a man might like a woman for more than just sex and actually want a life and a committed relationship with her. "Fun guy" doesn't get love or exclusivity or emotional support or more than a few months of her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:46 PM
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No, because I am childfree and never want kids, biological or step. I guess I might consider it if I were much older and he had kids who had fully left the nest, but that seems like a very different thing from dating a single dad with minor or even college-aged kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:28 PM
1

Nevada's brothel system is total shit, everyone I know who worked them said they got treated better working illegally elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:08 PM
1

At least some of it is because men have leverage against women who want kids that they don't have against childfree woman. A childfree woman doesn't have to worry about finding a husband before her fertility runs out and can't be trapped in an unhappy relationship "for the kids." A lot of men grow up with the impression that all women value marriage and children above all else, and that this is a much bigger bargaining chip than it actually is. When they realize they're wrong they get mad at wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:33 PM
1

Long hair, tattoos, tight pants, nail polish, fun clothing, all that pretty boy hipster shit. At least kinda fit, leftist and effeminate. Chatty with a sunny disposition. Lots of people say they grow out of liking pretty boys but I never did. Overtly masculine men bore the absolute shit out of me. I need androgyny to be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:54 PM
3

There's a weird thing where they think women are never truly "single" because we always have some type of romantic/sexual or potentially romantic/sexual interaction going on with another guy. It's very silly, for multiple reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:50 PM
1

I do think it's an outdated narrative but it comes from two distinct groups. The first is the sorta in-between group of women who don't have casual sex routinely BUT also aren't super conservative about holding out for a commitment. Women who routinely engage in casual sex don't see themselves as being "used" and the women who hold out are too much trouble. The in-betweeners are stuck navigating a sorta complicated situation with a lot of unspoken rules and expectations. Sometimes they read wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:43 PM
2

4.5 years, he was never fit or skinny but he wasn't fat when we we met. Small initial weight gain happened pretty early on but he got slowly larger and really ballooned a few years in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:36 PM
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Yes, and I don't think it's gendered because I've had this discussion with men before and all of them said they did it too, even if unconsciously. It wasn't a matter of changing the type of guy I was into -- most of the traits I was avoiding were never part of the initial attraction. They seemed like total non-issues or at worst relatively minor issues that I could live with because everything else was so great. Lesson learned. I was somewhat amused to notice that following a breakup with a tall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:18 PM
0

Yeah, I think you're correct. The kind of people who simply figure it out and move on with their lives are not the kind of people who get sucked into this type of woe-is-me manosphere bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:21 AM
-1

I mean I didn't even get kissed until I was seventeen but I've had a pretty rich, active sexual/romantic life since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:51 PM
10

And most of those people don't dwell on it for years after the fact. It's a normal experience to be horny and celibate during your teenage years. It's not even gender-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:42 PM
7

The average age of virginity loss is 17 -- most 15-17 year olds are sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:25 PM
2

Obviously none of these statuses are static -- this is just a snapshot of a particular moment in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:19 PM
4

The sluttiest guy I knew was sleeping with a whole bunch of very attractive women at any given time. Every week he was upset because (a) one of them wanted to date him more seriously and he wasn't interested, or (b) he wanted to date one of them and she wasn't interested. Probably B more often than A, although it was pretty even.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:01 PM
2

I put considerable time and effort into attempting to fix my last relationship before I pulled the plug and got over it extremely fast once I'd done that. I'd communicated my issues clearly and told him the relationship was in danger. I told him, "I will break up with you if you do XYZ." He did XYZ. I broke up with him. Dumbfuck was surprised. In his mind, I hadn't dumped him yet so I wasn't gonna and all those conversations were just bluffing. On my end I was coming to the gradual realization t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:17 PM
1

Do you think redpillers are the only people who have ever suggested working out to be more attractive? Most guys figure it out right away, because obviously women are humans who appreciate attractive partners just like men do. Guys who can't figure this out without some YouTuber screeching at them are attracted to the red pill for reasons that have nothing to do with "tangible solutions."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:02 AM
-2

Why do people think "work out to improve your dating life" is redpill advice? That's obvious af. If you needed someone to tell you that, you're dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:49 PM
1

Yeah, it turns out my views are my views because I think they are the correct ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:11 PM
3

A lot of guys love fat girls but don't want their friends to know they love fat girls. I know a fat woman who had an affair with a man who at the time was married to a very beautiful and famous actress. He was absolutely stunning and somewhat famous himself, if he wanted a thin AP he could have found one. They met because he hired her as his sex worker. He has never publicly dated a woman who was not extremely thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:18 PM
3

I think it's overall a good thing if monogamy is a choice couples make together rather than default.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:58 PM
20

It's already legal in a lot of the world and none of these magical changes have happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:02 AM
1

Ghosting after a couple of dates is fine, and frankly I'd prefer it to having a whole mini-breakup conversation about how someone I've met twice has decided he's not into me after all. I don't care about gender and I don't need "safety concerns" to say that ghosting after a couple dates is totally normal and okay behavior, and what's more I don't actually believe the anti-ghosting crowd would like the alternative as much as they claim. Ghosting an entire relationship though -- you better have so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:33 AM
1

All my boyfriends started as one night stands, there's not really any difference between the types. I like pretty hipsters. Tattoos (they don't have to be good), tight pants, long hair is a plus, not into beards but stubble can be hot, painted nails, cool fashion sense in general, kinda effeminate, nice abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:57 AM
1

"Hey, I love that video game" then ask a question about her opinion on some aspect of the video game. Girl at the party by herself probably does want someone to talk to her and you're at a party where approaches are expected so you can just introduce yourself and ask how she knows the host. If it's a bigger ticketed event compliments on clothing/hair/accessories or comments on what's going on around you can also work. Social gatherings are easiest of all, just put yourself next to her and engage…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:31 PM

I s2g all this talk about what high value men supposedly want is just a bunch of dateless losers fantasizing about how abusively controlling they'd be if they could get away with it. The actual hotties by and large do not want Rapunzel wife!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 01:43 AM

Why does this sub think "high value" men are a bunch of uptight insecure stick-in-the-muds? IME they are very much not!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 01:36 AM

Lol @ the preemptive "you're ugly if you disagree." Anyone with a "no social media" rule in their relationship is too immature to be in a relationship, YCCMV. I'd rather get cheated on than live in a prison camp relationship. I have social media, I go to bars, so does my boyfriend, the men who aren't okay with that aren't really relevant because they're not my boyfriend and even if I find myself single again I don't date jealous babies. I don't need social media to cheat if I wanna (which I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 01:33 AM
1

I think some people (including that one, probably, although there was more text than I was really willing to read) can be far too prescriptivist about BDSM in general. There is also a difference between "I do not enjoy this" and "I think this is bad" and "I am tired of seeing these particular tropes constantly."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:50 PM
1

I spend a lot of time in kink spaces (although not on reddit) and honestly I have no idea what you're on about. Dominant women don't like sexism anymore than other women, and have varying interpretations of what counts as sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:20 PM
0

I don't think anyone denies it? But ftr I think being a kinky cuckold is one of the healthier ways to deal with that fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:02 PM
7

Hyper- and hyposexuality are both extremely common responses to sexual trauma. This is pretty well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:02 PM
3

This is all so fucking stupid, I can't imagine dating anyone who told me what I could post or what I could like, if this is an argument in your relationship go back to middle school where you belong. They both need to loosen tf up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:01 PM

Nah, but you did mention porn and I do feel like it's relevant that part of purity culture is the pathologizing of normal masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:36 PM
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Am dominatrix, have asked a whole lot of people how they got into their kink and here's my take: A lot of kink is about sexualized anxiety. Men fear being found sexually inadequate and cheated on, hence the popularity of SPH and cuckolding fantasies among male submissives. Women are taught to fear rape from childhood. Often it's the first sexual subject anyone really addresses with us and the the message is that sex is something a bad man might do to you against your will. We're given all these …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:27 PM
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"Porn addiction" was invented by Evangelicals and isn't a real thing. The idea that "porn addiction" exists and is some kind of serious problem is also "purity culture."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:17 PM
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I mean yeah, no shit, if it feels like a job interview you're doing something wrong. But I also don't think it's wrong to say that in some sense it kinda is one? Like you're trying to figure out if you want to see each other again and where you'd like things to go. I don't think it's a wildly unreasonable comparison to make, BUT I do think the fact that OP makes it says a whole lot about his (bad) attitude towards the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:47 AM
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Right? Like it doesn't matter how rich or pretty he is, the man with these attitudes and requirements sounds like a total fucking potato and I do not want to spend my whole life with him!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:32 PM
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Dating is a "job interview" for everyone involved but it only feels like one if you don't actually like the person. Otherwise it just feels like you're having a conversation. If you're sitting there full of contempt for the person who dared to require conversation and interaction before giving you access to her body... yeah, I guess it would feel like a job interview. But that's on you for going on a date with a person you have no interest in getting to know. Everyone talks about work, that's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:50 PM
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Right? Like why do they think that "Chad" is an uptight nerd?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:23 PM
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I don't want kids. I want a partner who treats me like an equal and doesn't act like a jealous wet blanket. And I found one! If I hadn't... I'd still be happier alone than with the jealous wet blanket I got as my special prize for being a chaste pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:45 AM
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This post very explicitly asked for a lot more than that! But yeah a partner who isn't cool with me going out without him isn't one I want, you're not really disproving my point here that being a "high value woman" means basically living your life to cater to the preferences of a supposedly "high value" wet blanket. It doesn't sound fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:30 AM
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All the standards in the world don't make this dude any less of a fucking drag and you are absolutely fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Would you want a "high value" partner if she demanded your submission?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 12:48 AM
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What is the value of being a high-value woman by this definition? It sounds miserable and at the end of it you get the prize of marrying some bossy asshole who is really into gender roles. If you also like those gender roles and want a traditional relationship, okay. But if not... why would you put yourself through all this bullshit? A """"high value"""" man by your definition sounds like a fucking drag, I'd rather be single forever than date him. I'm not single, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 11:38 PM
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I think a lot of guys grow up with the idea that women universally prioritize marriage and children above all else... and that this is a much, much bigger bargaining chip than it actually is. "Date me and do what I say or you'll die alone" turns out to be a pretty toothless threat when there are plenty of other men out there with very different attitudes/requirements and singlehood isn't considered a terrible fate. Some men realize they assessed wrong and move on. Others write ridiculous screeds…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:31 PM
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This just seems like being really neurotic and risk-adverse to the point of paralysis. People aren't "throwaway objects" ... but I'm not a doll that belongs to whoever called dibs first. If we were meant to be, I'd like them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:15 AM
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I don't deceive people about my intentions or what I'm doing. Liking people who don't like you and not liking people who do is part of the thing. I've definitely been ghosted by people I was interested in more from and it wasn't fun but like... I got over it. It wasn't a disaster. They'll get over it too. It's not really my problem, just like it's not their problem if my feelings are hurt by their lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:58 PM
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Potential hurt is part of dating and I don't think multidating changes much. Nor do most people who do this continue to over-optimize -- they meet someone cool and stop. If you can't find someone who makes you want to stop, you're either not in a good place for a (monogamous) relationship or you just need to keep looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:16 PM
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I don't think single men are necessarily dangerous or partnered men are necessarily not? That's obviously untrue. Show me where I said that. Like I didn't even say "all incels" because some of them are just misguided young men who will eventually get over their bullshit. Nothing in your comment really relates to anything I said. I'm not sure you even entirely disagree with me? My point is that you can't draw conclusions about "women's intuition" without knowing how many women successfully dodged…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:16 PM
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There are a couple different dating styles that are all well and good when everyone is on the same page but clash when people with different preferences try to date each other. That's kind of an unavoidable problem -- you can't force everyone to adhere to one set of rules, since the rules that work for some work terribly for others. All you can do is communicate your own preferences and bounce if they're incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:22 PM
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Some people have better intuition than others. Some people have a more accurate assessment of their own intuition than others. Some people are really good at hiding bad traits and manipulating their victims, some people are not. None of these abilities are static, and all of them can be significantly improved with experience. For every woman trapped in a years-long nightmare abusive marriage there are almost always other women who encountered that abuser and said "no thanks." Some of them might …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:16 PM
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Multidating has honestly worked out great for me. You have an absolute blast until you meet someone you super hit it off with, and the others get dropped pretty quickly after that. In the meantime: If someone you like ghosts, you have others to distract you. You don't get into relationships you feel so-so about just because you're sick of being alone. You meet loads of people so finding the one you really click with is a faster process. Eventually you find the person who makes you not give a shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:57 PM
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Because they have a longer fertility window in which to have more kids. Plenty of people who waited would like to have additional children, but don't. They're also probably more keen to have kids and more keen to have multiple kids, since people who want big families tend to make a bigger point of starting early. Because young parents are likelier to split up, some of those additional kids are happening because the new guy wants kids of his own. Also sometimes they're just sloppy with birth cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 09:22 PM
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I have no idea how you got to there "by my logic" -- what I'm okay with in a relationship is a very different question than whether friendships that include an element of sexual attraction on one side are in fact genuine friendships. Anyway, the situation you're describing is pretty vague so I guess it would depend on the specifics. I don't do relationship prison camp bullshit though and I've historically been unbothered by my partners' opposite-sex friendships so my reaction would depend more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 10:24 AM
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That has very little to do with body positivity and is usually more clever marketing from lingerie companies who want to sell lingerie to fat women. Putting fat models in lingerie ads says "hey we make stuff in your size and you don't have to be skinny to look cute in it!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:36 AM
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I don't think I've ever heard that but it's BS. Lots of people do bang their friends. I've had friends I wanted to bang and I also genuinely valued their friendship. I wasn't just hanging out with them in hopes that something might happen. I liked them as people and enjoyed hanging out platonically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:12 AM
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lol no I have literally seen this happen, guys pretend it's a myth so they can blame their looks for all their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:34 PM
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He was 5 foot 9 with a pretty face. He'd have done fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:50 PM
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Yeah, he's a horrible person who never got laid for good reason but he was plenty attractive. Idk why there are people arguing with me about this, I have eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:49 PM
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Leaning C, but: A huuuuuuuuge number of sad boys online who think they're doomed because of their looks are delusional morons who would probably do okay if they had less obnoxious personalities. Y'all get mad when I say this, but Elliot Rodger was an objectively attractive rich kid who got no pussy because he was such a fucking freak and I have seen some very physically unattractive men absolutely pull. There's a point where your personality can't save you but it's actually rare and most people …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:47 AM
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Right? Like this just sounds like pretty standard post-breakup procedure. You blow off steam and do all the things you couldn't do when you were in a relationship. I did all that shit (aside from attempting to seduce OP) right after my last breakup and I was pretty determined to stay single for a while. It had nothing to do with me trying to lock down the next guy and everything to do with having as much fun as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:07 PM
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I am a sex worker, I know lots of sex workers. A whole lot of us are married or in serious relationships with guys who have expressed a desire for marriage. Also, A LOT are gay and dgaf what men think. Sex workers aren't generally trying to settle down with uptight sexual conservatives. We hang out in communities where our work isn't a big deal. Like who cares what percentage of men wouldn't date us if we spend all our time in social circles where it's just... not much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:47 AM
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If you lack reading comprehension, I can't help you with that. Downvotes are against the rules, knock it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:42 AM
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I'm not being original, I'm being logical. I'm very glad I don't live in a world where governments conspire to hide the fact that the Earth is flat, and yet many people believe this! They're not right just because the things they believe are upsetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:25 AM
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Just because something hurts your feelings doesn't mean it is true, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:10 AM
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Meh, I've known some pretty slutty dudes who were put off by a woman's low bodycount. They can't relate to that woman's dating history and (rightly or wrongly) see it as a bit of a red flag for problematic prudishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:42 PM
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Different people react differently to birth control. I would take it even if I were totally celibate -- it controls my otherwise miserable periods and I have no other side effects. I do know a couple women who straight up can't take birth control at all. They've tried multiple kinds and all of them have miserable side effects. Some of those women have had tubal ligations -- a fairly invasive, irreversible surgery with a much longer recovery time than a vasectomy. But yeah if you're a woman in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:28 PM
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GO OUTSIDE. Being your version of a "high value woman" sounds absolutely dull as shit. Like the main requirements are that you're a pushover who never has any fun. And if you're "strategic" you marry young, at an age where your marriage is statistically more likely to end in divorce. As a reward for your good behavior you get... some guy who largely values your looks and inability to stand up for yourself. You think of certain female dating patterns as "not strategic" because you don't understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:44 PM
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Yes. I find it a massive turnoff, to a degree I won't pretend is rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:57 AM
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A common trope is that the "bad boy" has done something pretty awful in his past... but it is later revealed that he did it for completely moral and selfless reasons. The protagonist sees him in a different light after learning this, which leads to them falling in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:25 AM
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Because the "romance" would be boring as shit if they just liked each other immediately and started dating, like normal people do. No relationship I've ever been in would make for an interesting romance novel. In romance the plot has to revolve around the central relationship -- which means that the central relationship needs to have conflict that is eventually overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:20 AM
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I come to this forum because y'all are fun to make fun of and I answered a question honestly. Also lmao that is really not true across cultures the way you think it is, but tell yourself whatever you like to justify your fetish! My past was great fun, tbh. You jealous because you didn't get one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:50 AM
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Uptight losers love to convince themselves that the sluts are dying for their commitment. We're actually fine, leave us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:56 AM
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Who cares? As long as they stay out of my hair I'm happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:38 AM
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Lol no I do not want the fucking perverts that would summon to my inbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:32 AM
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Not everyone asks the question because they actually care about the answer, or put any weight on it whatsoever. Sometimes it's just fun to compare/contrast experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:24 AM
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They'll blather on about how they don't respect me/I don't respect myself simply because I declined to live my life in a way that makes me sexually appealing to them. That sounds pretty salty too! And let's be real -- a lot of the actual anger comes from guys who can't get laid, which is... transparently salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:12 AM
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Alternatively, your belief that my distaste for them is a coping mechanism is simply a coping mechanism because you hate that I don't give a shit about the opinions of uptight losers I have no intention of ever dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:11 AM
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I found that attitude pretty repellant even when I was a literal virgin, but you can believe what you like! It does not affect my life in any way if you do. Just like it in no way affects your life if a random slut on the internet doesn't respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:25 PM
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I don't want to date men who get "grossed out" or "lose attraction" over my sexual past either, and I haven't! It's worked out great. I'm in a very happy and loving serious relationship with someone who doesn't give a shit. They are entitled to their preferences. They are not entitled to my respect -- and I'm not sure why they seem to care so much about it, since they don't respect me or want to date me either?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:09 PM
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Mine is hella high and I can only give a rough estimate, but I've always been as honest as possible about it when asked -- which has only happened very rarely. I don't downplay it because I don't respect men who have a problem with it and scaring them off is a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:10 PM
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I've heard of it but it's less because the person wants sex and more because the person wants to continue the romantic relationship, and straight-up saying "I do not want a baby" will result in a breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:25 PM
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Doesn't hit with my personal experience. I've had really enjoyable sex with men I wasn't initially that attracted to until I learned we were kink compatible. I've had insanely attractive men ask for stuff I wasn't into and it was always kind of a disappointment. The person being hot didn't make me any more into it. I've been more inclined to experiment with stuff I'm not into with longterm serious partners because I loved them and wanted them to be happy or with partners who were extremely sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:18 PM
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I don't understand the point of playing a stupid little game where you both try to divine the best time to begin monogamy and then get mad at each other for guessing wrong. If you haven't agreed to exclusivity and the person sleeps with someone and you get mad... you're acting like a child and that is a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:03 PM
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When I was on dating apps looking for a relationship I also considered a good FWB or hookup a pretty decent outcome. I didn't sleep with every date, but I did sleep with all the ones I liked and found attractive enough, typically on the first date although occasionally on the second. I would keep them around as FWBs if I liked the sex but didn't think there was relationship potential. I don't keep exes or almost-exes as FWBs because it invites confusion. Honestly a pretty effective strategy, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:20 AM
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They got used like a collection of crusty vibrators. Everyone left happy and no one cared. If that's your best comeback to "I had enjoyable casual sex with hot people" that just tells me that you have a hideously unhealthy relationship with sex. A therapist could help you with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:23 AM
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They're bitter redpillers who hate women. A lot of their ideas about how "Chad" acts are just fantasies about how they would act if they could get away with it. The fact that most men do not share these fantasies simply does not occur to them, since they spend their time in echo chambers with other bitter redpillers who hate women. And of course, some attractive people are assholes, so they do find the occasional real-life situation to "confirm" what they want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:10 AM
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I've had sex with more stunningly attractive men than you can shake a stick at and NONE of them pulled that shit. How many beautiful men have you slept with? Tbf I don't actually think unattractive men are deliberately pulling this shit en masse, either. Most casual sex is between two people who know the score. I just think they're slightly more likely to do it if they get desperate and don't feel like they can get laid otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:01 AM
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Who's likelier to try to con women into casual sex by implying a relationship will follow: the unattractive guy who struggles to get laid, or the handsome one who can get laid regularly while being open about the fact that he's not looking for anything serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:33 AM
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They know or think they know that you'll reject them, so they decide to make you feel bad as preemptive revenge. It's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:54 PM
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Is it "perception" or is it just the reality? Like I said, I've heard similar from men who were fairly successful at finding hookups and casual dates on the apps -- even the ones who were open to/actively looking for a relationship rarely had those casual dates evolve into anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:53 PM
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I was on OKC back before swipe-based apps were a thing. You had a profile and anyone could message you. Believe me, ugly guys send nasty messages too. I actually loved the apps when I was single but even I burned out on them occasionally and would take time off. The nasty messages were definitely part of that. Like you can just.. not be on the apps and not get those. I know a number of women who tried the apps once, got immediately scared off by nasty messages, and quit apps forever without ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:46 AM
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I live in the US, dated around a whole lot, and have only been off the market for about a year and change. It's not actually like this, thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:46 PM
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Are you under the impression that women do not wish to be respected and admired?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 05:38 AM
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I've known a few women who genuinely preferred much older men. The old guys they dated were... a lot better looking than most old guys. I've known women who dated older men but didn't specifically prefer them so much as they preferred dating rich men, who tended to be older. They dated younger rich guys, too, and preferred them to the grandpas. I don't like older men but I did have an older boyfriend when I was in my early twenties. He got past my reservations about the age gap by being hot and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:27 AM
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I am female. When I was single I didn't have a ton of interest in texting strangers so I'd usually set up a date for that week after just a few exchanges and not text much leading up to it. If I was busy that week I just wouldn't bother responding to messages until my schedule cleared up. My dates frequently cited this as something they appreciated about me, and remarked that it was somewhat unusual. Pretty much the same for meeting in person -- I'd text to set up a date and not text much til th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:28 AM
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I don't date friends. I know at least one person who will only date friends. I know plenty of other people who don't have strong feelings on it either way. It's fine. We're allowed to have different preferences. If you want a master algorithm that will allow you to date all the women, too bad. It doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:51 PM
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We went for a nice dinner that we both enjoyed and split the check. We bought each other gifts. We had a bunch of mutually enjoyable sex. This is pretty much how V-day has gone in my past relationships, too. It's just an excuse to have a cute day together and splurge a bit on something we both wanted to do. I don't think I'm a special unicorn of fairness here -- this is how most longterm couples handle it. If you hate nice dinners, exchanging gifts, and spending time with your partner I can see …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:51 PM
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Lol no they're not. Literally Mommy fetish is hella popular right now, if anything they're more into older women now. But they sure haven't gotten any pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:14 PM
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Too bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:24 AM
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I'm not single. I'm in a relationship with an attractive man who treats me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:19 AM
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It's not, but like, if the ugly guy is just as likely to mistreat you why not stick to hotties? You're not changing your chances or mistreatment one bit and you're dating people you're actually into.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:41 AM
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Misogyny has always been mainstream. This is nothing new. Redpillers are parroting mainstream conservative talking points, not the other way around. The silliest thing about redpillers is their belief that they came up with something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:30 AM
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Well yeah I was never interested in uggos for dating or sex but that shit was the difference between a maybe and a yes more than once. There's a level of ugly where your personality/style makes no difference but it's pretty rare. If it doesn't make a difference for you, you're not "average."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:15 PM
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There's a bit in The Game where he literally describes telling women he's gay as a seduction tactic. People used to talk a lot of shit about "peacocking" but that was one of their only tactics that I 100% realized would totally work on me... and had worked on me. I stand by it being good seduction advice. There's something about a man who isn't afraid to stand out with his style that I actually love and I don't even care if it's calculated. Old school PUAs gave better advice than the current cro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:10 PM
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Porn addiction isn't real and AI isn't going to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:37 PM
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Then technically they're doing the rest of you a favor because a woman who isn't getting matches or having conversations on the apps is probably going to go swipe right on more people. Anyway plenty of them are matching with and talking to multiple women, they're just not being gross or shady about it. It's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:23 PM
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Same boat, tbh. When I go out I want to have fun with my friends. When I date I don't want to have to worry about running into the guy everywhere if things don't work out. Online dating rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 09:16 PM
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Imagine looking through 100 male profiles, deciding that 95 of them don't even deserve a chance to get to talk to you Do you understand the concept of linear time? Do you realize how much of it having 100 different conversations with 100 different guys would actually take? Do you understand that women on dating apps typically have jobs and friends and things to do that aren't chatting on with strangers on dating apps? Anyway loads of very attractive men don't do this shit and loads of unattracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 08:04 PM
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I knew the guy I lost my virginity to was bad at sex. I could observe that he was having orgasms and I wasn't. Now that I'm much more experienced and have had many partners I'm a lot better at communicating what I actually want. I know what works for me and feel a lot more comfortable talking about it. It's also an order of magnitude easier for me to reach orgasm than it used to be. I think people get confused about the difference between what an inexperienced woman will accept and what an inexp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:27 AM
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If you're dickering this much about "responsibility" you're already having horrible sex. Do women make men cum or are men making themselves cum using a women's body? This seems like such a stupid distinction. Like okay if you meet one of those women who is lucky enough to orgasm easily from penetration, are you really "making her cum" or is she just using your body to masturbate? Can you actually claim that you're the active party there? And why the fuck would you care? Anyway if you believe tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:53 PM
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One time a guy was trying to talk to me in a bar and I wasn't interested because he was very annoying and also I was dating the bartender. I gave him brief, short answers and looked at my phone. I overheard him telling the guy he was with that what I was doing was a "shit test." So I guess a shit test is when women aren't interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:05 PM
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Okay, but if the others are having quickies and the lesbians are at it for hours... doing it less often isn't as dramatic a difference as you're making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:02 PM
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How does it work out in terms of time spent, though? Because the #1 thing I've heard from bisexual women is that straight sex is awfully brief in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:19 AM
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I dunno, I can't speak for them. I wonder how they'd feel if asked directly about the genderswapped versions of the scenarios I mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 09:20 PM
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You can claim that all you like, but I'd feel the same about it with the genders reversed and I don't think that's wildly unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:11 PM
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The question was always wrong. Emphasis on always. Your husband has cheated on you repeatedly. You hook up with a co-worker. You find out that your husband is currently cheating on you and is telling the other woman that he plans to leave you for her. You get drunk and have a one-night stand with a guy you meet in a bar. The next day you speak to a lawyer and initiate a divorce. Your husband has refused sex all together for the last three years and won't talk about it. You go on a girl's trip an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:36 AM
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I'm not saying those aren't red flags to watch out for -- I'm saying that a lot of shitty people are smart enough to successfully hide their bad qualities and "vetting well" will save you plenty of bullshit but there's no such thing as a 100% effective vetting method. Life is risk and if someone truly longs to be a SAHM I don't think that's a dream she needs to give up -- but I do think it's a step that should never be taken without some type of backup plan if things go bad. At the very least, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 02:39 AM
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Men get sooooo Dunning-Kruger'd when they start explaining how to avoid predatory men. Focusing on your independence doesn't mean you don't date or have relationships. It just means that you don't make life choices that leave you financially dependent on a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:47 AM
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A lot of this sounds like it's all in your head? Aside from the fundamental rule of "don't approach women you don't know when they're walking through deserted areas alone at night" most of these are gonna be just fine provided you can recognize disinterest and back off quickly. It's that last point where guys screw up. I've had guys I wasn't interested in hit on me in pretty much all the circumstances you mention and I wasn't bothered at all by the ones who knew when to back off. If someone has …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:21 PM
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I have no interest in splitting hairs over what qualifies as a non-insane degree of sexual harassment. Congrats on not being bothered by it, I guess? Dating apps are supposed to be a fun leisure activity, not some kind of mandatory sex homework assigned by the universe. Users who don't enjoy them... stop using them. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:41 PM
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Everyone wants a neat little explanation for why they have specific turn-ons. There isn't one. I can tell you this with some authority because I have been a dominatrix for over a decade and have asked nearly every client I've ever seen how they got into their kinks. I've heard all kinds of wildly different explanations but most of them have no idea. Human sexuality is a black box. If your turn-ons are causing problems in your life -- if, for example, you find yourself routinely attracted to toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:09 AM
1

If that were the case then why don't old dudes realize how good they have it and treat their younger partners better? Because every single woman I know who routinely dates significantly older has had at least a handful of shockingly terrible relationship experiences in a way that's just not true for the ones who tend to date close in age. Younger men are hotter too and I've also heard some nightmare stories from men who have dated much older.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:29 PM
6

I know a number of bisexual women who no longer date men. Pretty much all of them have had boyfriends in the past, and some of them will hook up with a guy once in a blue moon but they're never interested in more than that and pretty much always ghost right after. They prefer women for both dates and hookups, although it's not necessarily a sexual preference, more just that they don't like dealing with men. Big overlap between that group and women I know who have done a years of celibacy with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:25 PM
6

The nasty messages don't have to be the worst thing ever to make being on the apps just unpleasant and not worth it, especially for women who don't have trouble meeting people IRL. Other people's experiences on the apps aren't really relevant for someone deciding, this isn't fun for me, I don't wanna and I don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:57 PM
8

You can whine and scream and jerk off to revenge fantasies all you like but the sluts are still getting married to men who absolutely do not care. It's not not true just because your silly terpy buddies say otherwise. And since this isn't affecting me in the slightest -- why should I care? You still haven't answered that question and I don't think you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:39 AM
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Because IRL outside your little internet echo chamber or conservative communities a lot of men legitimately don't care, and women who sleep around a lot tend to date within those social groups. Most of my friends, myself included, have extensive sexual histories and are in serious relationships with guys we met hooking up. If this is not something that's ever really affected my life -- why would I care? If it's made some men less willing to commit to me, fine. We wouldn't have been compatible an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:26 AM
1

They're not, but they're not exactly hard to find and someone like OP is describing... would probably find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:39 PM
2

There are so many more interesting ways to dominate tbh. Not opposed but I wouldn't be compatible with someone whose main thing was pegging.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:39 PM
2

Yeah so I can tell you how I'd feel about it and I can tell you how the people I socialize with are likely to feel about it. I can't tell you how everyone feels about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:00 AM
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No one dates the gen pop so it doesn't matter. I can't guess that number and if I tried it would be meaningless since "what do some people on a forum estimate based on 0 information" isn't meaningful information. Anyway I do actually know a guy who fits the bill -- which I suspect is more than most people here can say -- and he's married to a woman with a baby on the way. I was fuckbuddies with him for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:49 AM
5

Again if you get into the type of circles where this sexually adventurous submissive bisexual man would probably actually be dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:43 AM
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I dunno, probably not but if you get into the type of circles where this sexually adventurous submissive bisexual man would probably actually be dating -- more than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:35 AM
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Yes. That's hot. Why would I judge it? I like submissive men. I like bisexual men. I get along well with people who pursue weird sex stuff for the sake of it. We'd probably have a great sex life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:29 AM
6

Lol all that pick up shit works on men. "This works because of female nature" is a just a silly story you tell yourselves to feel superior to women. Strippers have been reading PUA books and making bank with those tactics for as long as PUA books have been around. Your penis in no way makes you less vulnerable to manipulation!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:26 AM
3

Yeah, those housewives weren't divorcing to get rich. They were divorcing because they were miserable. They needed the money to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:46 PM
3

I've experienced this with a longterm boyfriend who suddenly lost interest and absolutely stonewalled me about why. I hadn't gained weight or changed my appearance at all. He had gained significant weight and started balding aggressively but I was still down. Was the change just basic Coolidge effect, or body issues on his end, or a symptom of our relationship going generally downhill in a variety of non-sexual ways? I have no idea because he sure wasn't talking to me about it. It was a big fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:27 PM
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I meant treating FWBs like people, you're the one projecting your own weird cuck thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:59 AM
1

I was just curious as to whether you fit the mold. The type of women they tended to find attractive for relationships would sleep with them but not date them. So they were going for women who were relatively level-headed and not desperate enough for a relationship to overlook red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:19 AM
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I've definitely known men with that exact experience. They were all hot and good in bed but had pretty major mental illness, coupled with having a type (usually either smart and/or older women) that leaned a little too level-headed to wife up trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:34 AM
5

Lol a friend of mine stumbled across her boyfriend's fleshlight and was super into the idea of using it during sex. He was ashamed and uncomfortable and changed the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:21 AM
0

You can have a casual sex while treating your partners like people. Those things aren't remotely mutually exclusive and anyone who claims otherwise needs therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:17 AM
-1

Then stay single? Duh? No one's trying to force you into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:23 AM
1

Does he think women who only have sex within committed relationships never experience poor treatment within those relationships? Or does he just think they don't complain about it? Because lololol that's wildly incorrect either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:08 AM
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I'm sure that affects my experience somewhat but also the guys I've dated longterm were all pleasers because they got off on it, so maybe I'm just really good at spotting the type. Like my bf fully admits he's gone dumpster diving but also he went down on all of them just because he really likes doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:42 PM
2

I'm not sure exactly what point you're trying to make here but it turns out that some dude I don't care about being kinda bitchy or sexually ungenerous bothers me a whole lot less than someone I'm in love with deliberately choosing to say and do extremely hurtful things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:19 PM
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There's a difference between a woman who has a "hoe phase" and one who just has casual sex routinely while single, and it's that the first type stopped for a reason. Casual sex isn't for everyone. Anyway I'm solidly second type and did it because I generally had fun. Idk if it's demographics or just hot girl privilege but most of them cared about getting me off. It's not validating and it's a bad place to look for validation but you can still have a really great time. Nothing bad I've experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:53 AM
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It'll likely lower the rate of unplanned pregnancies somewhat and women who have bad reactions to birth control will stop taking it because their partners can get Vasalgel. I don't think it'll have any major effect otherwise, though. I do think you're seriously underestimating male resistance to the procedure, but I also think the people claiming some vast majority of men will never do it are overestimating pretty wildly. Resistance will likely fall over time regardless, possibly by a lot, assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:29 PM
2

Do you take vaccines?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:26 PM
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Because there are more women who are open to relationships than women who are open to casual sex, and there are more men than women looking for casual sex. This is just basic supply and demand. You can turn it into some silly conspiracy about AF/BB or whatever, or you can just accept that it takes more time and effort to sort through a pool of 500 people than it does through a pool of 50 -- and if there are a whole lot of acceptable options among that big pool, some of them are gonna get ignored…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:30 PM
11

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:26 PM
2

I would rather get cheated on than live in relationship prison camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:03 AM
2

The chick who has a bunch of casual sex and then makes the boyfriend wait is a bit of a boogie man -- most people either don't engage in casual sex at all OR they have sex with the boyfriends early on too. Even with the people who treat them differently it's usually the difference of a couple dates rather than months of waiting. And it's not about "the value of sex." It's either (A) she thinks (sometimes correctly!) that the boyfriend guy will judge her/lose interest if she sleeps with him too s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:45 PM
2

The divorced/separated/widowed gang can still benefit from their past partner bugging them to get help. Either they never left treatment or they're more willing to seek help because they've done so in the past. They know how it goes, they know what effect it has, and they've already gotten over the stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:48 PM
1

Open relationships are also super common among gay men. I think your basic answer is that men are horny and crave variety and often aren't nearly as bothered by their partners having sex with other people as posters here seem to think. Putting that last part in bold because it's something a lot of male posters here have a really hard time wrapping their brains around. Y'all are so scared of cuckoldry that it absolutely blinds you to how many men just... aren't. Like they don't want to get cheate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:42 PM
2

Okay but if I can have regular sex while keeping on top of my shit... why would I not do that? If it has any effect at all it makes me slightly more on top of my shit because I feel good and undistracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:18 AM
2

Yeah what he's describing is a completely normal way to date. It's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:17 PM
4

People with experience get taken advantage of, too. If you're very inexperienced in your thirties chances are you're not gonna find yourself suddenly drowning in interested women so yeah, there's a point to be made that prioritizing similar experience levels is shooting yourself in the foot when it's not something that's even going to have a major impact on your day-to-day life within the relationship. Inexperienced women at that age are rare and hard to filter for, plus there's no guarantee tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:41 AM
4

The phrasing suggests the survey was specific to men, and 5 - 10% had sex at all on any given weekend. How many of them were in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:11 AM
0

They're fairly accepted in certain circles -- like half the people I know are/have been in a nonmonogamous relationship at some point -- and most of the people who take serious issue with them are very traditional and/or just gross redpillers who freak out whenever women have sex with people who aren't them. So yeah, pretty much just judgmental jerks being judgmental jerks. I do enjoy whenever the subject comes up because the terp reaction to it so completely betrays their dishonesty around thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:03 PM
1

It's bad because you're worrying about dumb shit that probably isn't happening and -- like any anxiety disorder -- it's detrimental to your life and mental health. If you choose to date people who don't trigger that particular insecurity, fine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:23 PM
2

What's the benefit of "self-control" here? Like why be sexually frustrated when you have the option not to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:21 PM
1

Icky, gross, and hot sounds like a fun time. You'll be happier if you embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:20 AM
2

I have no idea of the exact numbers but they're pretty much the same. I'm having a hard time thinking of anyone I did one but not the other with. I don't think of oral as being any less intimate than intercourse so I guess I'd count it but it's not really relevant. I'm not ashamed of my sexual history and I have no interest in dating men who would take issue with it so I don't really have a reason to lie or minimize it. If anything I err on the side of being too honest so I can scare off the wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:34 PM
1

Most of this is wild straw man shit. I don't know anyone who believes what you're claiming are "mainstream" "blue pill" beliefs. Obviously looks matter, obviously people get bored and act poorly in relationships, obviously all this shit happens but the point is that people also often... don't do any of that. You also seem to have confused cynicism with truth. I could tell you lots of depressing lies and lovely true facts. How things make you feel does not actually determine whether or not those …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:23 PM
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"Dating is so hard for nice normal guys like me who go to great lengths to avoid places where we could meet women and eliminate most of our potential dates based on the fact that they go to those places sometimes."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:19 PM
0

Lol this is so much pearl clutching over tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:25 AM
4

Alimony is pretty rare and typically only given in fairly extreme situations. A few years off work won't do it. And in those cases where alimony is justified only paying "until she starts working again" doesn't make a ton of sense if her earning power is drastically decreased by a decision they made as a couple for the benefit of the children and the husband's career.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:48 PM
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Yeah the whole thing where women "clean the guy out" in the divorce is kinda exaggerated. A lot of times the woman has been doing unpaid labor as a homemaker in order to free the man up to pursue his career and this is a dynamic they both agreed upon. She needs the money because she's unable to earn as well due to a choice the couple made together. If they're rich it's easier for everyone involved because he can lose money without suffering too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:10 PM
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I have been trying to explain all this to OP but it's been fairly useless as he CANNOT accept that the term means anything other than what he decided it means in his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:56 PM
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"Tradcon lifestyle" goes a lot farther than simply having a female homemaker/male provider couple. It defines the man as "head of household" and final decision maker. Most women simply don't want to give up decision-making power on major life decisions unless they believe Jesus wants it. And women who do enjoy that type of dynamic have to balance it against the risk getting absolutely screwed in a divorce. Big resume gap, possible very little work history or higher ed, multiple children to feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:30 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" is not a "definition of masculinity." It is a set of beliefs about what masculinity should be that everyone using the term "toxic masculinity" inherently disagrees with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:26 PM
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Okay so you still haven't bothered to go and google "toxic masculinity" because you're still arguing with me about something completely unrelated. OBVIOUSLY women are perfectly capable of being toxic and violent and angry. "Toxic masculinity" doesn't claim otherwise. Toxic masculinity is a term used to describe the way certain beliefs about masculinity can cause undesirable behaviors. It doesn't mean that those behaviors can't be caused by anything else, or that women don't do them, or that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:25 PM
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Just once it would be nice if someone posting about "toxic masculinity" bothered to learn what the term actually means. "Toxic masculinity" does not describe specifically male behaviors. It describes a set of beliefs about how men should behave. The major one is "masculinity is mandatory for all men" and the rest define masculinity in ways that are toxic -- violent and incapable of emotional connection or strong emotions other than anger. Worth mentioning that the term actually originated in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:57 PM
9

They're looking for non-religious tradcons... but minus religion there's very little motivation for women to pursue that lifestyle. The risks are simply too high, even for the few who find it appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:53 PM
1

I met my ex in person and only saw his dating profile a little later when we went to check our OKC compatibility score, and then again after we broke up when I spotted him on Tinder. He did not present himself well, to an extent that I probably would have swiped left on him even though I found him astoundingly attractive in person. Online dating men is wild because it's common for them to show up looking much worse or much better than they do in person and you literally never know which one you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:29 PM
1

If your method is condoms but you don't always use them and you get pregnant one of the times you bareback... that pregnancy counts towards the typical use stat. It's confusing, but it's to measure it against stuff like the pill which will become less effective if you skip pills/take them at different times every day but will not become entirely ineffective and might still offer a fairly high degree of protection depending on how badly you messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:24 AM
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I've had sex with a whole bunch of people and have never been pregnant. I live in a place where abortion is accessible and I would 100% have one if I got pregnant. Honestly the chances of pregnancy from a hookup aren't as overwhelmingly high as you think -- even with frequent hookups you're still having less sex than you probably would in a monogamous relationship, and you're much more likely to be using multiple forms of protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 07:44 PM
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My aunt and her boyfriend of over a decade don't live together and never have. My grandfather and his girlfriend never lived together either, and they were together for ~20 years until her death. Obviously both much older couples but yeah I've seen two examples within my own family where this seemingly worked out pretty well and made both parties happy. I don't think it's for me -- although I'm not sure it would be a total dealbreaker, either --but it's such an odd thing to get your knickers in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 09:42 AM
1

I have been a professional dominatrix for over a decade, IMO anyone who splits hairs over the exact definition of kink vs fetish vs whatever has no idea what they're talking about and the rest of your comment 100% bears that out. There are loads of reasons women are less receptive to casual sex and in general it has very little to do with how much anyone is specifically turned on by casualness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:55 AM
0

You have a fetish that does not apply to men as a whole. Plenty of men are happy to have easy sex but they aren't turned on by the fact that it's easy, they're turned on by the fact that it's sex. And plenty of women who enjoy casual sex get off on it being slutty and forbidden. Not all of them, but it's definitely a thing. You are projecting your fetish on all men while making a lot of sweeping generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:03 PM
5

It does count. It's just not the only thing that counts. Black and white thinking is gonna get you absolutely nowhere with understanding anything about human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:38 PM
1

All my serious boyfriends have been exceptionally enthusiastic about performing oral sex, all of them had been with many partners and they all said that it was very rare for them to encounter partners who didn't want it. I've briefly dated guys who were enthusiastic about performing oral sex in theory but tapped out very quickly -- it doesn't take me long at all but they weren't getting me there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:35 PM
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Do you think he'd love her if she weren't hot? Do you think it's somehow abnormal or unethical to date people you find attractive and not date people you don't find attractive? Most of TRP is just "pick a totally normal and reasonable thing that everyone does and pretend it's evil but only when women do it."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:33 PM

Most of the ones I've discussed it with were people I did date longterm, loooong after that discussion. My hookups mostly never even asked, although my boyfriend did when he was still just a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:49 PM
1

I was fresh off a major breakup and planning to avoid serious commitment for a lot longer than I did in the end. He was in a similar boat. We made it official after about two months and the last other person I slept with was probably a few weeks before we became official. His last other person was sometime earlier than that, but not by a huge amount. It's not something either of us have ever cared about. I don't believe in exclusive situationships, or in relationships where both parties are expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:30 PM

Pretty much. Most of the guys I've been with had very high counts and didn't care at all about mine. The only one who got weird about it was the one who didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:23 PM
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The vanillas are super cavalier about choking but actual kinksters treat it like serious edge play that you would never ever do without asking. People who don't ask before choking are morons. There are medical syndromes where even light choking can cause major problems and also choking someone out of the blue is a good way to trigger a trauma response if you do it to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:21 PM
1

I can separate emotions from sex just fine, but I wouldn't ask a partner for a one-sided open relationship, and if I agreed to one for whatever reason I would cheat wildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:53 PM
1

How often do you think the women actually honor the agreement to stay monogamous while letting him mess around? Because like, he's too busy doing important stuff, traveling, partying, or entertaining other women to keep an eye on her. And she's probably a bit resentful about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:49 PM
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If your partner has an affair and begs you to forgive them, or punches you in the face and swears they'll never do it again and you dump them despite their pleas... you initiated that breakup. The person who initiates the breakup often does so for really good reasons. Sticking it out in a miserable relationship is not a virtue. I dumped my last long-term ex and I probably did us both a favor. I suspect he's much happier now but I don't care either way because I certainly am. We were both miserab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:33 AM
1

They're both stupid opinions held by nasty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:46 PM
2

Nah. I would choose conveniently located bars so I wasn't going out of my way and I wasn't stuck on the date for longer than the length of a drink. If we didn't hit it off, fine. That's part of the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:19 PM
1

I did it a few times for covid reasons and like once before that because the guy requested it. I'm not a fan and would not do it again if I were single. I guess B? I don't think it's totally stupid, just not for me. Honestly I never cared for a ton of pre-date communication when I was online dating. I never wanted to spend days texting or anything like that. If it went well I'd get psyched up for the actual date in a way that set me up to get let down, but more often I just got kinda bored by it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:18 PM
1

My first sexual encounter and my first love were different people and I rarely think about either one. Also lol, first love DOES NOT = guy you lost it too, I had sex for the first time six weeks in with the first guy I dated because I was horny and dumped him six weeks later because I realized I never really liked him that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:25 AM
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Yes. Looking back the cheating possibility hasn't been a major concern. More like, they want kids, they live far away, they have unaddressed mental health issues, or just basic lifestyle incompatibilities. If I'm going to be in a relationship I want it to have some chance of lasting so a guy who eventually wants to move to the suburbs, have 2.5 kids and a dog is fine as a fuckbuddy but not boyfriend material. Same for the guy with the crippling untreated depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:27 AM
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It's how I met my boyfriends, including the current one. I've also mostly had a pretty good time with the guys who didn't turn into anything more serious. I never really felt like I got strung along by someone who just wanted sex -- I was fine with keeping things casual so there was no reason for manipulation. The pair-bonding shit is pseudoscience and if it worked the way people claim then mothers would love their younger children less than their older ones. I'm pair-bonded as all hell and I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:22 PM
20

I have been a dominatrix for over a decade, I think I have a certain amount of authority on this topic. An enormous amount of kink can basically be explained as anxiety + arousal. Among male subs, this is usually what's going on with cuckolding play and small penis humiliation. Anxiety around sex gets turned into a kink. What anxieties do women have around sex? We're taught to fear rape usually well before we become sexually active, and often it's one of the first sexual topics we are told about…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:24 PM
2

I honestly don't believe most of the men who were creepy to me thought it would work. They just wanted to make me uncomfortable. Anyway I've approached many people many times, it's fine, y'all make way too big a deal about it on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:18 PM
2

Human vulnerability to social influence is itself a trait that evolved because it helps us function in groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:50 PM
1

I've also boiled down female sexuality in a tremendously reductive way and you're not mad about that. I wanted to explain why OP read this data so extremely wrong but I didn't want to waste much time on it. TBH a lot of sex differences are overplayed, general trends get read as absolutes but the objects/situations divide is one of the real ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:49 PM
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Women are attracted to expressions of sexuality, men are attracted to body parts. What is considered an attractive expression of sexuality or body part is very much socially conditioned. Men thought that bound feet were the most erotic thing ever for thousands of years, any claim that male sexuality is somehow free from influence is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:59 PM
0

This is a weird revenge fantasy that does not reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:10 PM
-1

That does not seem to be true, actually! When I looked it up every US state lets you off the hook no matter when you discover it, although you typically can't get previously paid child support back. Of course it's a hassle, everything to do with family court is a hassle and you'd have a bigger hassle if the kid were yours so that seems like a specious complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:12 PM
2

Is this even true? Like y'all are always screaming about how it's a thing but when I googled it pretty much everywhere allows victims of paternity fraud to get off the hook for child support at any point. Which is fine and reasonable. There may be a time limit on how long the non-paternal father can file after discovery but it's pretty long and I think that's reasonable too. Like if you learn the kid isn't yours but decide to raise him as your own anyway and then change your mind six years later…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:48 PM
4

No, I've heard lots of women complain bitterly about dating too. And at their heart, the complaints are the same -- they're not finding the type of relationships they want. Usually it's just impatience. Most people will go "okay, dating is hard, I shouldn't expect to find what I want immediately" but the ones who go "DATING IS BROKEN" are usually just losers. That's not gendered. And the guys who are mad about dating but have no friends... should maybe put their effort towards making friends. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:52 PM
6

A lot of the dudes online are strangers with no mutual friends. It's more like, you have opportunities to meet men online so now you're out with your friend, you may have busy lives and not see each other all that often so you're going to spend your time catching up and talking about all your personal stuff rather than chatting up strange men. Because chatting up strange men is something you can do on Tinder when you're home in bed with your phone. Everyone wants to make friends as an adult and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:25 PM
1

I think it's two different group of women here. Like I don't know if the slash fanfiction fan who is grossed out by bi men is even a person who exists, and if so she's a rare weird bird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:44 PM
1

Yeah, because men taking responsibility for their birth control is a good thing. Doesn't mean anyone wants to forcibly sterilize men. Whenever the topic of male birth control comes up here, various posters claim that feminists will be furious about women losing the ability to baby-trap men, so like, choose one dumb misrepresentation of common feminist beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:24 PM
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You think the men furiously cranking it to BBW porn are "virtue signaling" too? Like them being a smaller niche doesn't mean they're nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:18 PM
13

Has it occurred to you that different women react differently to the way you act on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:56 AM
3

The only person I know who got married at 19 has had at least two marriages since. No one should get married that young.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:20 PM
1

I watched a lot of my friends go through extremely toxic relationships with much older men when I was in my early twenties. Like, not all age gap couples but let's not pretend the phenomenon of older people treating their much younger partners like shit is totally made up. It's really, really not! It's not even gendered, I've heard some wildly fucked up stories about older woman/younger man relationships as well as big age gap gay relationships. Like if you want to pretend that all the pushback …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:47 PM
1

I would not be in a one-sided open relationship. When I'm single I usually keep a few guys in rotation at once but I don't expect or want any of them to be exclusive with me. I don't believe in monogamous situationships and I do not consider myself monogamous with people I'm dating more seriously before we've defined the relationship officially. I wouldn't be in a serious poly relationship, either. Tried that, good experiment, taught me some things -- one of which is that I do not enjoy being no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:10 PM
3

Your redpilled buddies tell you feminists want this, so it must be true. I s2g posters here have the weirdest ideas about subcultures they dislike. Like you'll just believe anything at all if it makes them sound bad. You'll find the one insane person's tiktok and ignore the overwhelming response to it so you can go "see?? This is what feminists want!!" Feminists are opposed to forced sterilization, period. Which doesn't mean they can't think you're a moron if you're a childfree man who worries a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:55 PM
11

Literally no one wants this, stop making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:12 PM
2

I notice you're saying "disregarded" not "rejected." So like... did you ever actually make a move on any of these women? Or did you just befriend them and hope something would happen eventually?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:30 AM
7

The funny thing is that being nice apparently did get him offers -- just not the ones he wanted. And now he's confused because different women don't act exactly the same and apparently that's a mind-blower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:30 AM
5

Right? So he was doing this with the girls he wanted to smash and resenting it, but he had no reason to do it with the girls he wasn't into other than... legitimate friendship and interest in the conversation. I wonder if the difference was more noticeable than he realized. There are many possible explanations for what he experienced and that could totally be one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:17 AM
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I used to hook up with this very attractive, intensely promiscuous man. I was in an open relationship at the time so completely off the table for anything serious but we had a solid friendship and he would bitch to me about his dating woes. Without exception, his complaints were: (1) "This girl I'm banging wants to date me" and (2) "This girl I'm banging doesn't want to date me." So same shit, except he was actually fucking all of them. People want what they can't have. You were probably attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:08 PM
1

No. I think it's dumb as hell to play a stupid mind-reading game in which you both have to divine the correct time to begin monogamy and even dumber to have a fight over it after the fact because your ideas were misaligned. I assume everyone is fucking/open to fucking other people until we use our words like adults and declare ourselves exclusive. I'm a complete hardliner here -- I have a "you do you" response to a lot of sexual/romantic preferences but not this one. Me and my boyfriend both sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:04 AM
1

Lots of polyamorous couples split bills and household chores, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:22 PM
2

Lol @ calling red pill "science." Anyway if the TRP were right about men (which they aren't) AF/BB would in fact be the best possible strategy for women who want kids / need financial support. If you know that no man will ever actually love you, why not have your fun with hot guys and then settle down with a good provider? Why give a shit about what's "fair" to a man who doesn't actually give a shit about you beyond your ability to provide him with sex and possibly children? If men really though…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:00 PM
0

I don't disagree with your main point -- I definitely knew a lot of women struggling in their early twenties because they wanted something serious and guys their age were still a lot more interested in having fun. I know of a few breakups that happened for the same reason. I disagree that this is a moral failing, though. It's smart. Maybe people should fuck around and wait until their late twenties to settle down. It builds character and teaches you about yourself. Make the big decisions once yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:01 PM
2

Unlike your other responder I'm in a social circle where casual sex is very common and all my friends in relationships slept with their partners immediately. I'm sure that some people follow this strategy but it's massively overblown as a kind of red pill boogie man. Most people either don't do hookups or they hook up with the boyfriends too. We want to know if there's a good sexual connection before getting attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:10 PM
3

Yeah, exactly. I've had a lovely time casually dating guys I didn't want anything serious from. Nice guys, just not longterm compatible with me. So we had fun together until I found someone I was interested in seriously. A lot of people here don't understand that dating is fun. They resent the process and the people they're dating too much to enjoy it. If you're not going about it with that type of shitty mindset, you can have a pretty good time. So why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:29 PM
7

I am female and you're absolutely right. I used to send all the tinder dudes to a specific bar a few blocks from my house because I liked the bar and it was convenient to my life. If I waited for them to choose I'd have ended up traveling farther to a place I liked less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:53 PM
1

People are enormously variable in their ability to detect bullshit, and also enormously variable in their ability to assess their own ability to detect bullshit. None of this is gendered. If you think men are somehow universally better at detecting bullshit, lololololol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:39 PM
1

Honestly more of it depends on the personal tastes of everyone involved. Like you're better off asking a "fish" who is very much your type than a "fisherman" who doesn't share your type -- and vice versa. People tend to project their personal preferences onto others and can be really shortsighted about it. I'm pretty aware of what works for me and could probably give you good advice if you were trying to pick up someone very similar to me in tastes and sexual attitudes. And I can also tell you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:18 PM
0

16 year old """straight""" boy Non-heterosexuals are significantly likelier to identify as "porn addicts" even when their actual porn use is entirely at normal levels. Moreso if they're from religious backgrounds. Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:15 AM
0

There's literally no point in arguing with someone who thinks porn is what's making people gay and trans, you are too far down the conspiracy hole and I might as well try talking sense into a QAnon freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:02 AM
0

Lmaoooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:51 AM
1

lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:28 AM
1

Yeah, so you have to prove "lack of control" and also "harm" and hey you still haven't googled that shooting, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:14 AM
1

None of that is true. Here's an article from Psychology Today that does a good job summing up the actual research on porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:01 AM
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I don't watch much porn and never have. I do not have a penis and if a guy I dated took major issues with my fantasies we would not be compatible. Luckily I have a boyfriend who loves that I'm Mommy in bed so like... the incest thing isn't a problem. Porn causing people to get into more extreme fantasies and pedophilia is also a myth. The science of causes pedophilia is actually kinda wild but porn has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:59 PM
1

Why? Why do you believe that? Because "everyone knows" porn addiction is a thing? It's not a listed disorder and a lot of actual mental health professionals would disagree with you. But if you're so incurious you can't even google a shooting that was very directly tied to "porn addiction" "treatment" then I guess you'll just believe whatever sounds right to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:53 PM
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I rarely watch porn. I think the last time was a couple weeks ago, and the time before was a couple weeks before that. But yeah it's cool how you'd rather decide I'm in denial about an addiction than take a single second to consider that a large and politically powerful group may have shaped your ideas about "porn addiction" in a way that suits their interests. Lotta good reporting on the subject came out around the time of the Atlanta shootings if you want a place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:04 PM
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You don't realize that the "secular" stuff you've read about "porn addiction" was written by Evangelicals and based on their "studies." It's really easy to prove that porn has a detrimental effect when you exclusively study Evangelical men who genuinely believe their porn habit will cause them to burn in hell for all eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:16 PM
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You when you've let a bunch of Evangelicals scam you into adopting their views via pseudoscientific bullshit:
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:47 PM
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Porn addiction isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:24 PM
2

Or maybe you're just a terrible writer? I do not care either way, plz stop bothering me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:18 AM
2

I mean your initial comment was incredibly scattered and unclear and this one doesn't make much sense either so idk what you expected from me. Anyway I have read dating forums and have not generally seen that, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:14 AM
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The hot ones looking for casual are either bots OR they're so overwhelmed by responses that you're competing with an incredibly crowded inbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:06 AM
2

If you're not getting messages on a dating site you might be bummed about it, which is very different from being mad at the people who aren't matching you. And your friends might choose to comfort you about it, because they're your friends. If some douche sends you an unsolicited message on a dating site berating you for existing... yeah he's got the right to his preferences but whatever he's doing goes well beyond exercising that preference. ("Okay but people don't do that." I assure you they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:54 AM
1

F with n=very high and yes, it was fun as hell. I only regret the sex I didn't enjoy but I enjoyed most of it. Wouldn't take it back if even if I had the ability. Idk if I'd go so far as to say "the rest of you are missing out" because it's def not for everyone but I had a good time and I'm glad I did it. Never suffered negative consequences for any of it. My longterm partners haven't cared at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:13 PM
2

Yeah exactly, people get weird and shitty about rejection, none of this is gendered, IDK why you're arguing with me when we're basically saying the same thing? People being shitty on the internet get a lot of attention, especially if you are choosing to spend your time in the parts of the internet where those people congregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:19 AM
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I hang out in very left leaning circles with a lot of what you'd call SJWs and I don't see it happening in any major way. I'm not saying the stories are all fake, I'm just saying it's interesting how so many of them seem to be told by conservatives and not by the people who routinely date within the circles where a high degree of care about social justice is common. There are always going to be people who handle rejection badly and blame it on their rejector being a bad person. If you think this…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:23 AM
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The explanation is that the phenomenon of women claiming Social Justice Crimes when rejected is wildly overblown. Not like it never happens because it does -- both men and women do this, because rejection is rough and people handle it poorly-- it's just not that common. There's a tendency for certain men to wildly misinterpret any type of "body positivity" or anti-racism or whatever as a demand for their personal sperm, and that's not what's happening. "I'm a fat single mom so dating is hard and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:50 AM
1

Yeah, I'm not knocking anyone who chooses not to have sex under those circumstances! Just pointing out that it's not always the big deal a lot of the guys around here claim it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:41 AM
2

Multi-dating is great. If you want to stay single you can have a blast. If you want a relationship your search is now more efficient. Me and my boyfriend were both seeing other people for a bit after we first met and neither of us cares. When we wanted to be exclusive we used our words like adults and talked about it. I hate the thing where people have to mind-read the right time to start monogamy and then get mad at each other for having mismatched expectations. It's basically a norm in our loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:14 AM
1

Yeah exactly, they get better conversation from me if I don't feel pressured into saying something just to reset the timer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:37 PM
0

Okay, go about your day believing I am ugly. I will not stop you!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:35 PM
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I don't care if you believe me and I will provide no proof. Go ahead and believe I'm hideous. No skin off my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:19 PM
1

Looking at profiles is different from an actual social interaction. I have the time, I jut don't wanna til I wanna. I think you're being deliberately obtuse so I'm done with this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:19 PM
2

I don't know what you're not getting about the concept of "I would like to respond to messages at my leisure without a stupid timer making the whole thing feel like a chore."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:05 AM
2

Didn't feel like it. They're not mandatory sex homework. I was on them to enjoy myself and meet people and I succeeded at that just fine messaging people when I felt like messaging people. Succeeded so well I'm no longer on them. No one who takes dating apps as seriously as you do should be on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:05 AM
1

I think you're wildly overestimating the extent to which anyone actually cares about getting a rapid response on a dating app. I do not care and I don't care if they care either, which they usually don't. Again: ONE. GOOD. REASON.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:29 AM
2

Sending a "hey" is boring as shit, why would I do that? And again, I get the exact same results if I wait a week so why would I hurry? Why not wait until I'm available, in the mood, and ready to set a date? Like give me one good reason that isn't "appeasing a level-5 clinger."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:00 AM
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I mean I never took it personally if a guy took a few days to get back to me and it didn't seem to have any bearing on how he treated me when we did meet. People have lives, seems dumb as hell to read that much into "didn't respond on a dating app within the first five minutes." Anyway this is a wildly inaccurate way of viewing human interaction but I don't think I'm going to talk you out of a belief you seem incredibly committed to, so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:15 AM
1

Dick is abundant and low value. I'm hot as shit. If I want to have sex with a hot guy, it's not that difficult and I don't see the need to put myself out for it. Messaging a week later never really seemed to affect my chances in any significant way. So why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:12 AM
2

I s2g y'all want to assign online dating homework to women who aren't hard-up enough to care. I don't want to play penpals, I want to have a brief, pleasant interaction and then make plans. If I'm not in the mood I won't enjoy the chat and if I'm busy I won't be able to make plans. What's the point? Like if the guy is hot (or looks hot online) that'll still be true in a week and he'll probably still be horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:23 PM
2

Why is it so unbelievable that I just had shit going on in my life and wasn't going to push myself into interactions with strangers who appeared to be hot on the internet? Like you gotta be in the right mood for that. Anyway I have had loads of tinder dates/casual sex with guys I first hit up a fair while after matching. I assume they were happy I hit them up when I was ready to make plans and not earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:17 PM
7

I hated the 24 hour timer and stopped using Bumble very quickly because of it. Put too much pressure on me to chat with guys when I wasn't in the mood or didn't have time in my schedule to set up a date that wasn't too far ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:36 PM
2

I've had casual sex with everyone I've ever dated so yeah, I did typically assume those guys could get it elsewhere with a bit of effort. I assumed it would take more work than it would take me, but most of those guys did actually do pretty well for themselves while single so it clearly wasn't an insurmountable barrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:14 PM
2

Life is probably gonna exponentially better once I stop focusing on sexual market place forces on PPD on Reddit and just see the world. Very likely! One day you'll revisit this page or one like it and laugh your ass off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:06 AM
2

Idk my IQ, IQ tests are bullshit anyway. I wasn't calling you a gender essentialist, anyway. And you still haven't addressed my actual point, you've just complained a lot about how I'm mean to people who think their personal lack of romantic success is a systemic issue because they don't want to fix themselves or accept that "the dating market" doesn't give everyone exactly what they want without time and effort. Those people are losers, sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:58 PM
1

Bunch of projection and insults in your response, but you're skipping right over my actual point which is that people who are very gender essentialist tend to have dating troubles and also tend to scream about how their troubles are the other genders' fault on the internet. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:59 PM
1

The frustrating idiocy of this sub -- which also makes it tremendously entertaining reading -- is that many posters simply refuse to acknowledge that genders are not hive minds. All men are like this, all women are like that, whatever. People buy into it with their own genders too and assume every member of their gender is secretly just like them. It's an incredibly stupid way to go through life. Unsurprisingly, people who think like this tend to be romantically unsuccessful. "The dating market"…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:48 PM
1

I dunno, I had a great time when I was seeing three dudes at once + having the occasional tinder hookup. They were seeing other people too, it was all above-board and no one cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:21 PM
1

I think your answer is that different men like different things but men who like a fake look spend a lot less time screaming about how all men actually love the fake look and find natural women boring. Idk what it is about a distaste for heavy eyeliner that makes certain men declare themselves the arbiter of all male sexuality everywhere. Also a lot of them can't tell the difference. They only think it looks fake if it looks bad. If you pile on the products and stuff your face with filler but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:03 AM
1

I deflowered a friend who lied to me about his past experience. Didn't find out til nearly a decade later and wasn't remotely mad about it -- but also I ghosted him for a while immediately after for being bad at sex. He did lose his v-card and we're still friends, so. A lot of older female virgins do the same thing. Again, it's kinda NBD. Anyway the best thing I can say is to have some self-awareness about your possible emotional reactions, and maybe don't lie about it if you'll be bothered by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:07 PM
0

I'm not saying it's the best idea, I'm saying idgaf and I will never hold it against them. You can if you like. No one's stopping you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:54 PM
7

Batman is a rich cop who spends his time beating up the mentally ill, Maggie can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:18 PM
1

Cheating on an abuser will never be the same thing as cheating on a non-abusive partner, idgaf. Very few people are at their best when they're being actively abused and I definitely wouldn't consider it a red flag in the same way. I don't expect the same behavior from people living in warzones that I would expect from people with comfortable suburban lives, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:17 PM
4

Lots of movies that target men include a love interest, if only briefly. Can you think of just one where the woman is kinda average looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:51 PM
3

I have 0 sympathy for abusers who get cheated on, tbh. If the victim needs an affair to get out of a bad situation then I'm glad they had the affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:05 PM
1

A LOT more men than women on those apps and a lot of them literally swipe right on everyone til they run out of profiles for the day. I've never seen a woman swipe right on everyone like that but most of my male friends who use Tinder admit to it. When women don't respond to you it's because they got bored of dating apps or are having too many conversations already. Both those things can be true of men but a lot of times it's because they didn't look at your profile til after you matched and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:02 PM
2

In this case, I'm talking about fortysomethings who hit on me back when I was on OkCupid in my very early twenties and had an upper age cutoff clearly listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:18 PM
7

I switched to swipe-based dating apps when I was still in my early twenties. If it's that bothersome, there's a really obvious and easily available solution???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:13 AM
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I've been hit on online by loads of hideous men who were fat or very old or just ugly and I ignored them. Did those guys really think they had a chance with someone who looks like me? I don't know and I don't care. They probably just figured it would take a few seconds to shoot their shot and no skin off their back otherwise. Fair enough. You only think this is a gendered phenomenon because you haven't experienced it from the other side. Also it's shitty people told you they were put off by you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:12 PM
8

There have been many studies and literally no documented link between porn watching and ED. People keep trumpeting this because it "sounds right" and because you can dig up a few studies done exclusively on Evangelical men who have massive issues around sexuality in general and have a hard time getting it up when they think they're going to burn in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:08 PM
3

Most of my friends are sex workers and none of us particularly want sugar relationships because sugar daddies are famously shitty clients. Like they're demanding and bad at boundaries and they rarely pay enough to be worth the trouble. A really good, generous regular could probably turn his SW into a sugar baby but otherwise... nah. Literally no one I know wants a sugar relationship instead of a regular relationship, and I can't imagine any of them agreeing to monogamy with a trick or honoring t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:49 PM
1

I've been APPALLED by some of the messages certain friends get on tinder. It's not like I never got gross bullshit but their ratio of gross bullshit to nice normal messages is drastically worse than I ever experienced. Same with terrible date stories. I've done more online dating than any of these people and they can all smoke me when it comes to who has the worst date story. I am thin and white and hot, the friends in question are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:09 AM
2

Lol no this isn't true at all. Most of them want the ego boost and the turn-on of seeing the woman orgasm regardless of their relationship to her. Clients want hookers to cum. Hot dudes having casual sex want their hookups to cum. There's a reason the women in porn do lots of moaning and don't just lie there looking bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:43 AM
1

how much of that is just because we're drunk and with a new person though? They get boner issues they don't have in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:33 AM
3

And idgaf about evolution, either I have the world's tastiest puss or most men like to eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:54 PM
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It's weird when people say this because I've slept with more hot guys than you can shake a stick at and most of them cared. The less attractive guys weren't any more or less generous than the hotties. Most people want their sex partner to have a good time and most people who are attracted to women like pussy on their face, simple af.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:33 PM
-1

All of that is true, but she's the one dodging the bullet here and if you explained ahead of time that it's totally okay to intentionally mislead her with your actions but totally gross and wrong for her to keep her options open until you've had the actual conversation... SHE will not be the one getting dumped in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:31 PM
2

Or you can be an adult and accept that this is a basic and expected consequence of not being clear about your desires and intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:44 AM
11

Yeah sure, but you better not get your knickers in a twist when you later find out your GF was banging other dudes right up til the day you asked her to be exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:46 PM
5

Okay I guess you can continue to believe whatever you like in the face of all evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:24 PM
3

Statistically, men are more likely than women to want kids. I am convinced that most of this crap about "women who say they don't want kids don't really mean it" is complete projection from men who feel weird admitting they'd love to be dads because they associate that desire with femininity. One of my oldest friends is a hardcore serial monogamist. I used to kinda tease him about it when we were young and he was always full of excuses -- "no, they want the relationship, they make it happen." No…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:57 PM
1

It's not the most efficient, though. If you actually think about the kind of person you actually want and put your effort into attracting that type of person you'll have a much better time. You can be sorta attractive to a large group or incredibly attractive to a smaller one and in dating the latter situation is better. Do you think QAnon believers want to live in a world run by pedophiles? Do you think Flat Earthers want to live in a world where governments conspire to hide the true shape of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:29 PM
2

Before no-fault divorce separating couples would literally pay fake Mistresses to get photographed entering a hotel room with the husband, because even having one party admit to cheating in front of a judge wasn't always enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:31 PM
4

I like bisexual men but this shit if he himself would be traditional masculine and would think of his attraction to men as less masculine and therefore isnt interested in sleeping with men. is so wrong-headed and such a massive red flag I'd bounce immediately. I'd prefer a regular Grindr user, hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:24 AM
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