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Link what? You think I keep redpill comments and posts bookmarked because someone might ask me to prove something. The claim is from you. You are the one claiming most of the redpill says men and women have hardwired personalities. The burden of proof is on you to prove that claim. You have to prove that MOST (and not just random anecdotal comment or post) claims that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:02 AM
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No. We don't. You are making up stuff never said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:56 PM
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Male and Female are sexes. There are only two. Traits associated with each sex are bimodal and not binary. Some are physiological and some are hormonal. Still nurture plays a very important role in determining personality. A feminine man is still a man. A masculine women is still a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:43 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:14 PM
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Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:10 AM
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Men committing 92% of crimes doesn't imply all men are not innocent. You suck at both stas and english.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:09 AM
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Typical female projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:57 AM
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All self-reported surveys. Yes, women do lion's share of household chores and men are responsible for lion's share of financial responsibilities. Hell, there are houses where the man has 100% of the financial responsibilities. So it's only fair she has 100% of household chore responsibilities. That being said I fully support women not marrying. Many innocent men will be spared.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:23 AM
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Being both simultaneously > Being Hookup Material > Being Husband Material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:39 AM
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If she finds you attractive, confident. If not, arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:00 AM
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Women aren't lonely. So that research is a sham from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:36 AM
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I would believe if women didn't collectively loose their mind when men judge women who engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:54 AM
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Because in real life, we will face immediate consequences for saying the truth. I do agree that they are not out to get people, but they are hiding a lot. There is no malice but just bitter truths that people will hide. You meet me in real life, you would think this guy doesn't even know the meaning red pill. And it's not even that I am hiding. If it comes up occasionally, I have been blunt but such topics generally don't come up in real life conversations. So you remain unaware of their true be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:36 AM
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They don't have more responsibilities in the example you gave. So nothing to answer. And it's so fucking tiring hearing you all parrot the same "Who wrote the draft laws". Yes, Its men. Men when in power setup rules that discriminate themselves to protect men. Which proves my other point. We are the compassionate gender. This argument is over 24hrs old and getting boring now. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:22 AM
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It's both. Men are the more compassionate and empathetic gender which is why despite being able to subjugate you like Britishers subjugate the people in their colonies, we don't. A minority of men do engage in violence. A minority of women will also engage in similar violence if they were capable of it. Majority of men will risk their lives for the women in their lives, support laws that would disadvantage their gender over the other, and, oppose laws that disadvantage the other gender. Majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:21 AM
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Where did I say that? If you cannot make an argument, don't make a fool of yourself. It explains the disparity between crime rates of gender. Doesn't excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:13 AM
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Who is held responsible for defending the Nation if someone attacks. Who does all the blue collar jobs? SK, Ukraine, USA and so many countries have male only drafts. Looks like higher responsibilities for men. But only few of them give higher rights for men. Don't care if you find it funny. It is true. Men and women both discriminate against. Too many simp men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:13 AM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:40 AM
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You missed the "grow up as aggresive" part. Just having a gun doesn't change human psychology. You grow up your entire life knowing the stark reality that you are the weaker gender. Just like weak men. And neither of them are confrontational.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:40 AM
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Wrong. It's based off sadistic fantasies and victim complex. Women were never oppressed. Wherever women have less rights, they have less responsibilities. No country where women have less rights but equal responsibilities. Plenty countries where men have same rights but more responsibilities. Few countries where men have less rights but more responsibilities. Conclusion: Men are the ones being discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:37 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:34 AM
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No. It talks about a minority of men and gender difference on terms of strength. If you were as strong as men, you would grow up as aggressive as men and commit as much violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:58 PM
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When men had power they set up all rules prioritizing women's safety. Women always fought to make their own life easier ignoring the hardships of men. Yes, men don't hate women. If we did, handmaid's tale would be a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:57 PM
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Like you said, not a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:39 PM
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Consequences of being the empathetic gender who doesn't hate the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:38 PM
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Men already do behave better. Which is why you are living in a society with men instead of in a jungle with bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:34 PM
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No. Because Men also made other decisions which women whined about and got changed. Women could have done that. When men made the decisions, they were fair. When women fought those decisions, they could have chosen a fair alternative. They didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:33 PM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:12 PM
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A) I didn't. B) So pathetic to give a fuck about downvotes. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:54 AM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:54 AM
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Cliche response. Expected from someone whose achievements are because of DEI.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:16 AM
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Excuses and bullshit justifications. Men prioritized women's safety over their self and you call it misogyny. There is truly no limit to female entitlement. I wish and hope they continue to suffer workplace discrimination until male discrimination stops but reality is if it was purely based on merit, so many women wouldn't have the jobs they have. As for gender based violence, anything is considered gender based violence now a days. You can be verbally abusive and it would be considered gender b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:10 AM
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SK has compulsory drafting for men. None for women. Women were systematically and legally prioritized with all the feminist bullshit. Entitled sk women wanted more. So 4B started. MGTOW started because of men who got divorce raped. Not just divorce. Society, Culture and law. Everything fucked them during divorce and that's why they don't see it as worth it. They are not attempting anything. Only early stage MGTOWs talk about it online but eventually go monk mode and live their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:17 AM
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Nope. MGTOW: Because the whole of society, laws, culture is biased towards women. 4B: Whole of society, laws, culture isn't biased enough towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:12 AM
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How many men? Isn't the argument about monogamy here? Don't we all have more female ancestors than male ancestors?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:47 AM
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Millennial women had more resources than men to learn. Guess what? The demographics of skilled workers is still majority men. Women filled up HR Roles, activist roles, dei roles, stay at home roles... imagine all the affirmative action, money, dei push and still being a minority of real skilled demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:38 AM
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Men also have to deal with all of these and the added privilege of paying alimony, losing child custody, being the one to blame for divorce etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:51 PM
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Google which are the most dangerous jobs and their gender demographics. Not her to spoonfeed you. Women did household chores when they couldn't. That isn't a dangerous job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:41 PM
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My input is certainly more significant than your whole existence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:40 PM
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Never said thet didn't work. They didn't do dangerous jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:07 AM
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From your vantage point, every argument is articulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:06 AM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:50 AM
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Look up burden of Proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:50 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:49 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:45 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:45 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:45 AM
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The entire infra runs because men keep it running. Without men, it will fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:42 AM
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Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:41 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:41 AM
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No. There isn't. If you are talking about wars, it was still many men left behind who held positions. You think men go to war and women will suddenly acquire the skills needed for all jobs? Unless it's an unskilled physical labor, not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:41 AM
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Knew you would bring that up. Nothing happened. Men had a bit of a trouble with kids but nothing major happened. Do you know what will happen if men quit for one day? Actual disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:39 AM
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Not banned. Protected from working in hazardous risky environments. Women whined about not being allowed to work only after tech progressed enough to make it relatively safe and easy. Which is why blue collar is still filled with men. Mediocre society? Better than any society women have ever come up with. And you have had a century of feminism pushing and whole of govt, media and corporations behind. Every kid grown born in 90s is 25+ now and were raised on a feminist worldview with heavy biases…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:25 AM
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No. They all could quit tomorrow and nothing would change. Men quit tomorrow and economy will collapse followed soon by infra.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:23 AM
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Well, one sex is hell bent on stopping doing their traditional roles while pushing the other sex to fulfill their traditional roles. Doesn't matter if most men don't know everything. If men stopped working tomorrow, society would collapse quickly. If women stopped working, it will adjust quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:22 AM
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Without the infrastructure created and mostly maintained by men, you wouldn't be managing just fine. You wouldn't be able to make this comment on Internet if not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:20 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/u2TW8pmsGv
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:53 AM
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You seem to have missed out that the millenials had their childhood, teenage and adulthood for that transition. Every girl who was born ij 90s was hammered the girls are equal, can do everything a man can do, and given more opportunities and support than men. They had their entire life for that transition. There is no fast transition happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:03 AM
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She is contributing the child rearing. She worked hard to earn or save that money. Saying a father who pays for childcare expenses isn't contributing to child rearing is just laughable, entitled, and disrespectful to all the hardwork that men go through. Child rearing doesn't involve just chores. Someone has to pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:02 AM
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That's not my argument. Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:52 AM
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Public opinion is also with women and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:39 PM
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Because we're women we're used to taking things as it is without much complaining Lol We have to understand and give them sympathy. Maybe they were depressed or something. Guess that explains why men get lighter sentences for same crimes. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:10 PM
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Are you saying No man choose to stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:01 PM
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That is not the same as informing me that it's been lowered from 27 to 25. Irrelevant. They choose it. Men didn't have that choice. Yes, they are going to be drafted if the need arises. 25y and 26y olds weren't supposed to be drafted. They got drafted. Because all men are reserve forces. If the need arises, all men will be drafted. Because they are given a responsibility against their will. It is same thing. It's pathetic that your argument always boils down to "It hasn't happened in 40yrs". Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:50 PM
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You proved me right when you did what I explicitly said feminists do. No amount of arguing changes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:44 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Pc7b8HojKP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:12 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Pc7b8HojKP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:11 PM
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You didn't. Women were allowed to leave. Men should have been as well. You wouldn't be making the same excuse if genders were reversed. Irrelevant. Men are being treated as reserve forces to be used when the ones fighting die. So they get the voting rights. A security guard at a bank is paid every month irrespective of if there is a robbery or not in a month. Same here. Women who are staying voluntarily should get the votong rights as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:10 PM
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Why were they forced to stay behind? Why were they not treated equally? Under law, they should have the same rights as the women. They didn't. Did you forget they lowered the age for drafting from 27 to 25 during this crisis? And that's my point. All the laws are tossed away when it comes to war, and many men will be forced to die as needed irrespective of the age and laws. So all men should have the voting rights. Women can earn one if they sign up voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:37 PM
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It literally happened during Russian Invasion. Feel free to google if men below 25 were allowed to leave or forced to stay behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:28 PM
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No. It's not oppression. Not even reading the rest of your verbal diarrhea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:27 PM
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Stick to one logic. You earlier said the basic premise is those who are affected should have voting. Now moving the goal post. So do unemployed people not get voting rights? What about those earning low enough that they don't have to pay taxes. What about Stay at home spouses? Women never wanted those responsibilities. They still don't want those responsibilities. Dumbass, I know what it opposes. The point is it opposed that only after there was recommendation to include women. Before that, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:26 PM
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Irrelevant because as soon as the war comes, those qualifications go for a toss and they will draft as many as needed. Ukraine had limited drafting, 18y to 27y only with many limitations and exemptions, but as soon as Russia invaded, all men between 18 and 60 were eligible for mobilization, forced to stay back and defend the Nation while women were allowed to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:42 PM
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I don't give a fuck if you think I am a saint or a monster. There is no hatred. Just facts. If women behaved better, the facts wouldn't sound hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:37 PM
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When draft happens, men will be sent irrespective of qualifications. If someone has a disability that truly makes them someone who will be excluded during draft, then they shouldn't get a vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:36 PM
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When I literally provide fbi data as source and you still whine that it's not verified. 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:16 PM
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Read 2nd para in my original comment. I already told you what involves that celebration. Google it, genius. "FBI UCR Table 43". Open the first link and see "Murder and Non Negligent Manslaughter". Then see which race has what percentage distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:58 PM
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Saying you treat one group differently than others while every group is to blame isn't finger pointing. Never questioning black people for their ancestors role in selling off slaves is true accountability dodging. 13/50 is a stat that can literally be verified. If you call that untrue, not even worth arguing. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:16 PM
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Arent you redpillers all about accountability or are you willing to admit thats been a bullshit tentant of the redpill this entire time? Accountable for what? Doing something everyone did? Well, hold them as accountable as others. Fucking hold the black people in Africa accountable for selling slaves and then talk. Until then, you are not holding anyone accountable. Just being a triggered snowflake whining because you hate white people. The fact that you don't hold africans accountable but only …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:50 AM
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Here's a fact: All races practiced slavery. Whites were the first to abolish it. Whine and be triggered about it all you want. Only ones who forget that fact are those who oppose conservatives. I am commenting to let you know that even someone who is non-american can see the context. Nobody came up with 13/50 statement or black fatigue. We just observed it. Be triggered more about pronouns. I will not use them (Just in case your low IQ brain cannot comprehend, here I am referring to preferred th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:39 AM
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Well kids are also affected by policy. So should we give them votes? That's not how it works. If that is the basic premise, then kids must be allowed to votes since they are also affected the policy. While not formally stated ever, the reason mem had more rights is because they had more responsibilities. That included the right to vote and the responsibility to defend the nation. Me: The only time when they oppose draft is when there is a push to include women. You: Here's an article where a fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:30 AM
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No. I am saying no group oppressed another. Women didn't oppress men. Men didn't oppress women. Gender roles were there and they oppressed both. And men definitely had it worse with gender roles. Argue all you want. Being restricted to home is much better being restricted to do gruelling work in risky environment. Feminism is the reason we cannot have gender neutral laws jere. Everytime there is a proposal, feminists here oppose it. So fuck right off with feminism is needed bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:47 AM
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Barrier? Hahahahaha.... It fucking should be. Why the fuck should you have the right to decide policies of a nation if you cannot defend the nation when needed. Does your company give you voting rights on major decisions without you risking some investment? Shareholders make major decisions because they are risking something. And there can be an exception for medically unfit people if they agree to serve to the extent they can. And get lost with that bs "feminists think there shouldn't be a draf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:41 AM
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Which only shows that men when they could decide who will be drafted instead of drafting the gender they apparently oppress they choose to draft themselves. Feminists (and women in general) on the other hand have been fucking up lives of men as much as they can. Shows which is the more empathetic, compassionate and morally superior gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:37 AM
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Nothing to think. We all know it affects her which is why she has enough time to abort. If she waits too long, her fault. None. Where I am from women are allowed to be raped any man even now. Voting is a privilege that needs to be earned. When draft includes women, only then they deserve voting rights. Only men were working in mines, dying in wars, factories etc. Women could stay at home in a relatively safer environment. Women weren't treated as expendable. Fact is if a group A oppressed group …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:55 AM
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Only for misandrist, is it a dumb reasons. No, govt doesn't. It only makes decisions that impact another body in women's bodies. Even then its generally for late term elective abortions. You tried to be extreme with late term elective abortions and now the pendulum is swinging back. Feminism is a misandrist movement based on the myth that men were privileged & oppressed and it's goal is rights without responsibilities, choose equality when convenient & gender roles when inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:14 AM
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Feminism =/= Equality. Right to vote should be for men only as men are the ones being drafted when nation is at risk. If women are drafted, then they should have the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:32 AM
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Don't care. Feminism is a plague and needs to be eradicated. Just to address first point. The triggering isn't because of that. It's because the day usually comes with bullshit of blaming white people for slavery as if they invented it. Slavery has been going on for 1000s of years and white people are no more guilty of it than other races which participated in slavery. White people were the ones to abolish it. I am not even American. Another stupid point. We all know everyone has pronouns. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:36 AM
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Do you know the difference between change and cost? Not all changes are negative. You have mentioned two types of changes. A) Guaranteed changes. And none of them seem to ne necessarily negative (like organ displacement, hormonal shift etc). Your body evolved for all of those. That's like saying puberty has a a guaranteed cost. No, it has guaranteed changes. B) Non-guaranteed changes. Things for which you use terms like "often leads to", "is a risk"... etc. They are costs but not guaranteed. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:21 AM
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Yes provided they agree to serve in non-combat roles to the extent they can during such crisis. If no, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:52 AM
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Ok why? no seriously why? Because people with extra responsibilities deserve extra rights. Until the next draft only active service members should be allowed to vote then? Do banks pay security guards only if there is a robbery or will they be paid regardless so that they can be held responsible If & when there is one. Do you pay insurance only when you are sick or do you pay in case something happens and then they pay you. If men are to be treated as reserve forced that maybe called upon to def…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:23 AM
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Doesn't matter the difference. If they are to get equal rights, they should get equal responsibilities. Be it my own mother snd sister. If my father is the one who is expected to risk his life when there is any crisis, then I expect he be given privileges and authority to compensate for that. Try forcing women of Ukraine or Japan or South Korea to get pregnant to keep the society going on. Such a bullshit excuse. Women were never oppresed anywhere. Restricted? Sure. Oppressed. No. If oppressed, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:10 AM
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No. Nobody does that. I certainly didn't. So why are you strawmanning my arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:06 AM
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And yet only 24% are women. I am sure they will also be in the relatively safer roles. Why not mandatory 50% quota for women. Why can't they contribute equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:01 AM
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That's not circular logic. People who are held responsible to defend the nation during crisis are the only who should have a say in the policies of the Nation. Men setting up male-only draft proves the point that the society is gynocentric and centered around women. If women were really oppressed, the oppressors would force women to die for them. Not the other way around. Women saying since women give birth they should have vote doesn't hold same weight because the child may or not contribute to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:56 AM
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Okay. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:51 AM
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Did I anywhere deny that Priorities change? Reread my comment. Certain Priority changes are not settling. Some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:50 AM
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Tinder data is also there. Feel free to google.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:22 AM
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Pareto principle has been well established in dating studies. Not my problem you are not aware or this. Or maybe you are but pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:16 AM
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True. If they cheat or open their relationship, she will still go for the handsome guys. Not the type of guy she settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:14 AM
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Keep those insults coming. Definitely makes your point stronger. It's not like women constantly keep saying "Looks don't matter" or such stuff as they start to age and settle down for some guy they wouldn't have dated earlier. Sure. I will take your words over observing their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:13 AM
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Sure buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:09 AM
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What they need vs what they can get. Given only top 20 men are considered good looking in general while almost 90%+ end up getting married, either they are all incredibly lucky to find the one women who finds them attractive or they are being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:09 AM
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Your comment said women's priorities changing. My response was how their priorities change and those priority changes aren't acceptable to any man with an ounce of self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:06 AM
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Did I say anywhere that YOU said it? Who is strawmanning who?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:58 AM
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Women have far more choice than men. They still go for the redflags and cannot decenter men. Easier said than done. If women opening upto them made men respect them less and reduce their dating prospects, they wouldn't open up as well. Atleast not to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:54 AM
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You talk as if men have to earn in millions for women to be gold diggers. You all have went on dates for free meals. In that argument, were you not dying on the hill of not paying for coffee? Why did you bring up "a beautiful woman", aren't you dating someone handsome? If yes, you aren't bringing anything special to the table. If no, then that's classic afbb where you expect the beta bloke to pay for your meals because you are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:53 AM
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Blue Pill knights cannot wrap their around the idea that their priorities change from "Must be physically attractive" to "Looks don't matter". That is settling. Women admit that literally many times that they no longer care for looks. Some even justify it saying what they find attractive has changed. But sure. If priorities changed from "Must be physically attractive" to "Must be physically attractive. Good personality. Stable income etc", nobody would have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:47 AM
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Me: I am not talking about myself. You: Maybe you.... 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:44 AM
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*decades. Corrected
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:41 AM
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They are. Only then can they make the claim that women attempted self harm at a higher rate than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:41 AM
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You can write whatever you want. You want full picture? You have to take into account intention behind suicide and that is non-objective measurement. All that stuff about less help seeking behavior, network of support is about why they reached a point of self-harm. Which is completely irrelevant to my point which is that women use suicide as a cry for help more than men. For that, the relevant measure is when they decided to engage in self-harm, was the goal to kill themselves or seek help. I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:52 PM
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All of them only differentiate in the chosen method of violence which is an objective measure. There is no study that only uses objective measures that can explain why there is a difference in those methods of violence. The "why" isn't an objective measure. You can either have the full picture or stick to objective measures. Not both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:23 PM
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Not emotional but angry at your stupidity. You keep making up stuff I never said. So not bothering with you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:32 PM
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medical misogyny 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Classic excuse. Data doesn't align with my narrative? Data is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:29 PM
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Ofcouse you would say that. Nobody is taking care of a toddler in body of a grown man. You are choosing to be a stay at home and then whining about doing his chores while he doesn’t whine about paying his bills.. If that is taking care of a toddler in body of a grown man, being sole breadwinner is paying bills of a toddler in body of a grown woman who not only is just not paying bills but making it more expensive. And if they have kids, it's even more hard for the dude because he has to take car…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:29 PM
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Like I said in my other response to you, it's like talking to a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:25 PM
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Nobody did. The claim by OP was "You don't need partner. Make Better friends" and my response was "People still need a Partner. A friend cannot replace a partner". It's like talking to a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:25 PM
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I am not talking about myself. I am talking about men in general. They have two options: Be vulnerable and risk being seen as a less of a man which results in less success in dating life or guard themselves by not being vulnerable. Most choose the former and advocate the same. It's not about status. God, when men become this out of touch with why other men are not being vulnerable, there is no hope left.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:20 PM
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Where and when did I say I plan to dump it on my partner? Can you link that comment pls?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:15 PM
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I have done women's job for far more than a week. How do you think most bachelors living alone manage? Some magic fairy does the household chores for them? Except raising a kid, I have done everything a women does and for years. I will tell you why. If something happens 1000 times it can be said often but if something else happens 100000 times, the former can be said it happens rarely. We can argue the semantics all we want. Maybe relatively far less would be acceptable to you. Fact is women whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:14 PM
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Yes. Rarely. Almost every women whines about being treated like a maid. Men rarely and even then it's usually when it's true. Women call it being a maid with an unpaid labot when she is a stay at home mom. The audacity is off the charts. Do you want me to show you 100s of articles about unpaid labor of women? Who is that constantly whines that their salary would be 100k or more if their labor was paid. And that they work 24x7. Just fucking google "Unpaid Labor" without mentioning gender and see …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:04 PM
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What are you even on about? Those are two completely different issues. Woman, read the 3rd point OP made and my response again If you still don't understand, not my problem. It is not at all relatd3to opening up to friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:01 PM
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I edited it to rarely already. Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:59 PM
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I never said or even implied so. So the red flag here is you making up stuff I never said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:58 PM
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Men don't have an obsession with being vulnerable. Men have an obsession with not being seen as less of a man for being vulnerable. Many men have made the mistake of being vulnerable in front of a woman and learned a lesson. Which is why they advocate against it. Another example of why therapy doesn't work. Suggests shit that will only cause more harm to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:57 PM
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Only women call doing housework “being treated like a maid.” You rarely hear men complain, “I’m just the driver, the wallet, and the bodyguard,” even when they’re expected to be all that without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:52 PM
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A) From everything I have seen and heard about therapy. B) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279957761_Cross-National_Study_on_Gender_Differences_in_Suicide_Intent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:48 PM
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1) Is this a math equation that needs hard proof? 2) No. I just don't want that sacrifice to be taken as granted. Men at large are indeed okay with drafting. Atleast male only drafting. 3) Tell that to OP pls. They are the ones who argued that sex is the only difference between friend and romantic partner. 4) The reason for less violent and less lethal methods is again the intent. Is it a serious attempt to die or more of a cry for help. Source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279957761…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:44 PM
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So its not just sex. It's also exclusivity, moving in together and even kids that we get from a gf and not from just a friend. Glad you worked that out. If you think being exclusive to each other is codependency, I got nothing to say further. The method is less deadly because the intent isn't serious. I mean you think having a roommate is the same as having someone to come home to. I should have stopped taking you seriously after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:38 PM
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Because I have interacted with enough men and women to know that the therapy is generally more leaning towards feminine and gynocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:34 PM
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I don't know. If I knew, I would be using that to help myself and men I care about. What I do know is it doesn't need the usual stuff I hear from therapist. Be more vulnerable. Be more emotional. Be more in touch with your feminine side. "A Real man does xyz". Ughhh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:30 PM
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I agree. My female friend says the same whenever I vent to her. Nonetheless, it feels like that. She was very excited for something big for that week and I ended up talking to her about some of my stuff. She was very appreciative and supportive. But still why make her sad during happy moments. With male friends, it's not even that. I just don't have that equation with male friends. Never did. I have two best friends I have known for more than a decade. If I vent they will listen but I just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:27 PM
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Another example of why therapy won't work. In therapy, I will be told to just share all that stuff with friends. I have a female friend with whom I do that but with male friends, it just doesn't work. I know for sure I can open upto them. None of my friends will find it annoying or tell me to get a grip. They will listen but I just don't want to. I simply don't get that feeling to vent to them. If anything I will feel like I will ruin their evening by bringing up all this sad stuff. I feel same …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:11 PM
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A) Fuck therapy because most of it is designed to help women. Therapy that actually helps men would be great but most therapy isn't. B) That's because men are fine with sacrificing. I don't have a problem with draft. It's a necessary evil. I have a problem with treating people who are drafted and people who aren't drafted the same. I have a problem with people who weren't drafted claiming they are oppressed and that people who are drafted as oppressors. C) Is sex the only difference between a ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:03 PM
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Fuck therapy because most of it is designed to help women. Therapy that actually helps men would be great but most therapy isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:56 PM
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Do you see as much shaming today as it was a few decades ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:49 PM
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Nope. Your taste changes only if you have over indulged in it and your brain now temporarily has a distaste for it. Or there has been some biological change that makes you hate that taste. Physical and sexual attractiveness remain the same. If you time travel back to 2010, the guys that your 15yr younger self found attractive will still be hot. The guys you found unattractive will still not be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:00 AM
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They do that. Question is whether consciously or nor. The collective efforts of women trying to gaslight men that it was a compliment, when a woman said she would never sleep with her husband if she just wanted a hookup, is enough proof that it is a conscious thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:11 AM
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Right. The type of guys they found hot at 25 is suddenly unattractive at 35 and the guy they didn't find attractive is suddenly attractive. Because their taste changed somehow. That's definitely how physical attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:09 AM
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I still don't understand what it is that they need to find about themselves which they can only do so with casual sex. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:49 AM
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Almost all women post 30 are looking for marriage. Yeah, we heard that excuse plenty. The casual sex sucked so much you engage in it until you no longer can. There is no experimentation. Just a hoe phase followed by an epiphany phase. The hatred is for those who engage in hoe behavior. Extra hatred for those who engage in it but try to cover it up saying it was just an experiment that sucked in every way imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:48 AM
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They are looking for backup but not in the way OP thinks. They earn well but that alone isn't enough to have marriage and kids. A stable nuclear family. For that they need the backup because the guy they want to have family with has plenty options and will probably not choose them. The beta buxx is the guy who will be a good husband and father but not the guy she would fuck without the promise of commitment & marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:51 AM
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On the contrary, the shaming is reducing and promiscuity is increasing. So shaming did work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:12 AM
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Not gonna matter. Individual preferences don't dictate societal attitudes. Plenty of men who prefer promiscuous women but men in general prefer non-promiscuous women (specially if it comes to LTR), so societal attitude will shame promiscuity in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:58 AM
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Forget that. It's completely upto women how promiscuous men and virgin men are viewed. You cannot control men's opinion on promiscuous women (you try a lot of shaming tactics though). You can however control your opinion on promiscuous men. Treat promiscuous men the same way men treat promiscuous women. Society will adapt and do the same. Promiscuous men aren't "respected" because of some imaginary double standards. It's because women themselves shame virginity and not promiscuity among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:21 AM
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I don't argue with impolite bastards. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:10 AM
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I am being polite if you are resorting to namecalling, so will I. Fuck off retard. Midwits have an IQ tenfold yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:01 AM
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Sure buddy. Guess if I say "Serena Williams dominates women's tennis", it's not correct because she didn't win every grand slam.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:54 AM
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There are none. But if someone asks about caste system to me, I will not say "It doesn't affect me. So I don’t care".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:28 AM
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I do. I am not sure if it's worth arguing with someone who cannot define WOMAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:27 AM
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Words have meaning Last thing a person who believes or supports trans ideology should be saying. Laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:27 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:23 PM
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Do you not care about discrimination if it happens in my country? If you hear about it, you will not have an opinion on it? You will not oppose discrimination just because it happens in another country?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:22 PM
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It doesn't have to. Many immoral and bad things don't affect my life. I still care about them. You only care about things that affect you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:26 PM
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Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:20 PM
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You talking as if that is the only position they will get. They ruin women's sports simply by participating because women's sports is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:49 AM
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He did dominate. Domination doesn't imply absolute top position. Coming 4th when you wouldn't have cracked top 10 among men is Domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:00 AM
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4 cis women beating lea is irrelevant. 100s of cis men would have beaten him. By occupying 5th position, everyone below him were robbed of a position higher than they got.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:58 AM
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So as expected, the blame always falls on men and women are not accountable. Lol. Are they fucking teenagers to be groomed? They are adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:40 PM
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So why do you feel women are being groomed when an old man has a young wife? Or can I expect a post from you about "Grooming doesn't exist. It's actually just prostitution".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:55 AM
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There are some men who have no idea either because they are naive or the woman is just that good at acting. I do feel bad for them. But if we are talking about men where it's kinda obvious she is the trophy wife with him for money, rarely has anyone ever said you should feel bad for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:52 AM
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The world around me started to make a lot of sense. I stopped believing the bullshit I have been fed. I now observe actions over words.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 11:56 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:29 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:15 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:35 AM
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I agree. What I see in real life doesn't correlate much with what I see online. Was confusing earlier but realised why. India is a country with heavy shaming culture. West has relatively few restrictions and shaming. All that confirms me is that without a lot of restrictions and shaming, women (and men as well) behave like they do in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:56 PM
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Wrong. You are reading my post history from barely a few months. I have opened up my mind & changed my beliefs on many things. Went from bluepill to purplepill to redpill over many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:19 PM
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Guess white knighting does work if you want to be the BB
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:57 AM
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Yeah. You are walking around thinking "If I white knight enough, I will get crumbs".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:50 AM
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A) Wrong. He didn't say anything unusual. It was basic introducing himself and asking her intro. B) If it's the latter with some men (inexperienced & misunderstood how bad they were coming off) it still supports my point that calling them creepy & trying to ruin their social life is still disproportionate. Unless they actually hurt you or were intentionally creepy, those consequences are disproportionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:49 AM
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Never said they're out to get me but whatever helps you feel better. It seems saying women can do bad things hurts you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:43 AM
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There certainly is a tendency of average or ugly men facing disproportionate consequences. Whether you buy or not is irrelevant. Thanks for proving I am right about why you feel there's more. You are a blupilled white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:18 AM
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Not absolute social pariahs but one approached a woman at a club in a group, got called a creep, few days later that news somehow reached our office (nobody knows how) and he gets a call from HR. Once that news reached the other members of the office, he was isolated slowly. Especially by ladies. As for why you feel there's more, because you are a bluepilled guy who thinks women can do no wrong, men cannot be victims, disproportionate consequences doesn't exist or some stupid similar reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:21 AM
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Have already seen it happen twice to people I know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:57 AM
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It's not just about making uncomfortable. It's also about possible consequences. If your social circle is made aware of that, it could lead to disproportionate consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:56 PM
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They constantly keep denying or at least downplaying the importance of looks. The question is what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:11 AM
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Nobody said men only care about looks when marrying. You keep making up stuff I never said or even implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:27 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/XKeKyIi0QZ
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:13 PM
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Men that found out they were victims of paternity fraud all trusted their wives. All that accusation bullshit will be solved with mandatory paternity tests. Every issue you bring up can be solved by mandatory paternity tests. Men will not be victims because of naivety. Women will not be accused of anything by their spouse. Her whole won'tbe shattered. Kids will be raised by their actual fathers. No issues about child support claims since it's already proven by paternity test that he is the fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:08 PM
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Yes, men in general (I persoanlly wouldn't) will act same in your shoes. What we won't do is do the bullshit gaslighting "It's not your looks. It's your personality". We will also not engage in classic AFBB. Marry a girl for her feminine qualities despite not being attracted to her while gaslighting her that she is the lucky one since I chose her in the end (this is probably because men are simply attracted to a wider range of female population). And definetely not "We no longer go for looks. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:56 PM
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But you do take precautions to a reasonable extent. Everyone does. Only men don't when it comes to paternity fraud and even those who do are chastised by women. A paternity test is no different than taking a medical insurance. Doesn't mean you are going through life scared about getting some disease. It's being aware that this could happen and taking a simple precaution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:44 PM
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Absurd logic. A) Are women allowed to worry about being raped only if they have been raped? B) Do you not worry about crimes that affect others? You support laws to prevent crime only if you have been a victim of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:54 PM
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their child We don't know if it's their child. That's the core issue. They could be claiming rights to someone else's child. The woman established it's her child when she carried it for months and delivered it. It's his turn to establish it's his child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:40 PM
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No, they don't have to. Any dispute that might arise must be addressed immediately with a double check. Woman claims he is the father despite test showing negative? Man claims he isn't father despite showing positive? Test again. But they did enforce consequences for not getting vaccinated. Same can be done for tests. A father wants his name on birth certificate and the legal rights that come with being a father? Establish paternity. Prevention of fraud does need govt intervention just like they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:38 PM
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For a religion to be gynocentric, it has to orbit around women and also prioritize their wellbeing over men. That doesn't happen with redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:33 PM
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You keep repeating points I already addressed. It doesn't have to be state funded. They aren't being forced to pay. It's optional. You can raise the child as your own. But the moment you want to claim any right over the child, including adding your name to birth certificate, you have to prove that you are the father. That's how it works for everything. Want driver's license? Prove you can drive and pay a fee. Claim legal benefits of being married? Provide marriage license. Want to adopt a child?…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:32 PM
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No. Redpill universe orbits around women like AA groups orbits around alcohol & oncology orbits around cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:19 PM
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I know. Too many cucks & simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:16 PM
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It is enforceable by simply asking for proof of fatherhood when a man wants to claim he is the father of a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:02 PM
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Where does it make clear? Can you quote that part?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:49 PM
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There’s no need to keep the DNA records. The law could just require a quick check between the alleged father and the child, then toss the sample. And if you're worried they might secretly keep it anyway—honestly, if they wanted to do that, they already could. As for period products, irrelevant. Not caring about women in one aspect doesn't negate the fact that overall US and world in general care more about Women than USA. Nobody in the world has ever argued it's hard. Men are too trusting of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:49 PM
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No, I didn't. I answered genuinely as well. Women were never oppressed. And they should stop acting like it. Women aren't opposing paternity fraud. Freudian slip? If this is something men are genuinely concerned about, men need to be proactive in fighting for the law around it to be changed, it needs to be led by men. Agreed. Take a guess who will be at the forefront of resisting it? Women. Ask any woman should mandatory paternity test be there and most will say No. Feel free to prove me wrong b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:44 PM
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By mandatory paternity tests, it won't affect anyone innocent. Men will not be victim. Children won't be victims. Seems like protecting fraud women is a bigger concern than even children for you all. Men are too trusting of women and that's why we have millions raising bastards every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:38 PM
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The classic comeback. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:31 PM
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3.7% median is just Europe. It is higher globally. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237633127_How_Well_Does_Paternity_Confidence_Match_Actual_Paternity_Evidence_from_Worldwide_Nonpaternity_Rates Feel free to share that history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:31 PM
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Oh nothing. Just don't pretend you are oppressed or that the society isn't gynocentric as fuck where men have always been expendable and their concerns always a second priority. Also, don't pretend you are the more empathetic gender. Men have and continue to support any cause that helps women. Women will immediately oppose Paternity fraud. While men make up the majority of the govt, they are still gynocentric cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:28 PM
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How did you jump to that conclusion? If the woman claims he is the father and he refuses it, the court can force a paternity test just like it does now in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:25 PM
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Oh. I know that. Since it only affects men, the society in general doesn't care. Just like draft. So much for a patriarchal society
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:51 AM
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130K fraud issues in USA with a guaranteed solution Vs 20K babies accidentally swapped at birth due to a mistake with no guaranteed solution. Big difference. As for state funding the tests, A) It doesn't have to be state funded. A man wants his name on the birth certificate, prove it by getting a test done. If not, his name cannot be added and he doesn’t get any rights that a biological father has. He can raise the child if he wants but he won't have any rights or obligations. 2) Even if it is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:39 AM
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2% is also a big number if the consequences are raising a child for 18 months and loving that child for your whole life. Higher the consequences, lower the risk tolerance. 3.7% is the median for USA and UK from a meta analysis of studies of Paternity fraud. Globally that would be slightly higher but even if we go by 3.7% median, that's 5M fathers every year (150M births). If there was crime that affected 5M women every year with a guaranteed solution (mandatory Paternity test), women AND men wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:50 AM
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equally Misogynyst and Misandrist. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:07 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:39 AM
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Never said otherwise. It is however a critical thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:35 AM
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Not bothering buddy. You think narcissist are both misogynists and misandrists. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:29 AM
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It means that they are human hater while being both misogynist and misandarist Bruh... And Narcissim =/= Human hater. That's misanthropy. Bruh. It's L after L with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:25 AM
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Says the guy who cannot conceive of people being narcissistic but not sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:19 AM
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There is an overlap. They aren't necessarily the same. A man can be Misogynistic or Narcissistic or both. A narcissist can be equally narcissist against both men and women.That's common sense and if you cannot understand that, then your IQ is too low for me to bother explaining further.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:18 AM
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"I prefer pineapple pizza" vs "I rather eat pineapple pizza than strawberry pizza". Let me know when you understand the difference between those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:35 AM
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Dark Triad =! Misogyny. "We've never said that women are attracted to misogynist tho..." Yes. Women aren't attracted to misogyny. Women are attracted to bad boy personality, looks, height, status etc. Someone with a bad boy personality isn't necessarily misogynist. The claim is that personality matters little. A misogynist handsome getting laid isn't because of misogyny but because of his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:31 AM
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Rather indicates one's preference over another. Not one's absolute preference. You: he claimed women prefer misogynists. Also You: And he never claimed that women love misogynists. Just that they would rather have sex with misogynists. I never said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:26 AM
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Read the clarification comment again. It doesn't say women are attracted to misogyny. The term Rather in his comment implies it makes little difference. I would rather eat a pizza than a burger =/= I love Pizza. Here's another comment where he explicitly says "The personality has little to do with it.« https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/AZC9Nt6KCX
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:49 AM
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Women aren't attracted to misogyny. That wasn't the claim. The claim was they are more successful. Probably a combination of looks, not caring attitude and other factors. The post's point wasn't that women are attracted to misogynists. It's that misogynistic personality makes no difference. Women always tell men struggling with dating that it's their personality and not their looks etc. The point was to question thay dishonesty. Edit: You are doing that as well by saying "Women are manipulative"…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:34 AM
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There is a 4:1 ratio of men to women. If they cannot filter through them to find someone good enough, the problem is them bro. And whatever happened to female intuition. They can always sense desperate guys, guys who are only pretending to be nice etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:08 AM
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Red Pill for the win, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:10 PM
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Men in opposite sex marriages are still doing more protecting & providing than men. Sex is a biological need for both men and women. Men provide resources and women provide nurturing. PS: The modern society exists because of men. So by default men are providing value to you. Without men, we would be the same in terms of tech and progress as the few matriarchal societies in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:03 PM
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Dude, this is what you said: Are you seriously denying that red pill men want women to desire them sexually now? Show me where I denied that red pill men want women to desire them sexually. Until then, get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:15 PM
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You are a fucking retard who doesn't understand the difference between "Women have to Marry chumps" and "Women have to marry chumps if they want family/kids". Learn the fucking difference. Retard doesn't understand the difference between physically forced to and forced due to situation one finds themselves in. People also don't HAVE to work as a mcdonalds cashier or garbage collector or as a prostitute. But their situation means many people HAVE TO because they need money even though they DON'T …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:05 PM
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The median for paternity fraud is 3.7% in USA and Europe. Rest of the world would be worse. 1% is the lower end estimate with only cases of high paternity confidence. At 3.7%, we are looking at ~5M every year globally. Even if it is 1%, thats 1.25 to 1.5M globally every year. I guess those 1.5M men being deceived to raise bastards isn't a major issue I guess. Only a misandrist pos would say it's not very many men. Not even worth debating with such misandrist shits. Bye. PS: Rape and Murder of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:00 PM
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No, I didn't. Nothing I said implies that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:56 PM
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I am talking about bastards raised unknowingly because of paternity fraud. You know the context of this thread and that should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:57 AM
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2nd para of 2nd point addresses that. In a multivariate analysis, you can still observe the impact of one variable change by keeping everything else constant i.e no other interference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:29 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:50 AM
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If let's say men like you don't do the dangerous jobs and go out then women will do it then 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:33 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:31 AM
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As are white collar jobs. So according to you, their options are easy time consuming blue collar jobs and hard time consuming white collar jobs, both pay similarly on average (exceptions include upper management) yet they choose white collar jobs? Sure buddy. This is getting boring now. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:24 AM
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Yes, and this thread is further proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:21 AM
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Be honest about it? Is that too hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:09 AM
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I was being sarcastic since you claimed they are not choosing the easiest things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:08 AM
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Like I said: Show me a single line where I even remotely implied that. Until you do so, I am not going to take you seriously. Too disingenuous for me if you make up arguments I never said. Now that is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:02 AM
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Like I said: Show me a single line where I even remotely implied that. Until you do so, I am not going to take you seriously. Too disingenuous for me if you make up arguments I never said. Now that is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:02 AM
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Nobody did. They play a role after you meet the looks threshold. They can increase the existing attraction. They cannot generate attraction when none exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:01 AM
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Got them. True though. Let them talk enough. They will contradict and eventually end up proving redpill in many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:00 AM
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Men act as if women have more struggles in dating than men or atleast as much. And they are right. The hostility in those complains is because of that dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:59 AM
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If true, I would see a lot more single ladies then I do. Almost all women get married or at least settle down with cohabitation by the time they hit their 30s or 40s. Never even used Insta but whatever helps you sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:54 AM
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I did read. You still generalizing a whole set of men as if it's just one man. Just like redpill men have various beliefs and opinions but there is a noticeable pattern, so do women in general. I think it’s absolutely baffling that red pill men mock women for their sexual desires Never happened. We mock women for acting like their sexual desires are somehow better (not shallow, not just based on looks etc). but there’s no hypocrisy in me Your hypocrisy is in generalizing redpill men but when I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:45 AM
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I do. Which is why I never said Women WANT to settle down with the backup. I said they HAVE to because almost all of them want marriage/family/kids and there aren't enough chads to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:39 AM
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You all ever get bored of the same excuse or no? Also hypocritical of you to make generalizations in your post about tingles as if the whole internet is one man and then call me out here. Atleast mine is factual unlike yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:22 PM
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Yes. Would rather know that so I can breakup or divorce than live in felusion that I am attractive to her. Would rather be single than someone's backup.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:21 PM
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Then why are there still so many men raising bastards?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:20 PM
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And those pages don't paint a visual of how the male protagonist looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:09 AM
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It makes sense if you realize that women can date because the like the guy or date because they want to settled down and marriage. If a woman would date you for latter but not for former, you are the backup guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:04 AM
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You can max multiple stats but if you want to be chosen for who you are, you want to be with someone who finds you physically attractive irrespective of your other stats. Money is one way to get women. But guess what? There is no genuine desire in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:01 AM
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Excuses. Be friends with a really handsome man or be one. See the things you can get away with on a date. All this delusion about good personality and character will disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:58 AM
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Right. These are Extremely easy thing but since they can do harder things with relatively less pay, they chose those hardee things. Makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:57 AM
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Have heard that excuse plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:55 AM
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I would pick the hot young slender feminine one. You know what else I would do? Not Lie that I chose her for her personality. if I was limited to only women who I considered average or below average and chose one of them, then I would also admit I settled for someone I think is average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:55 AM
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along with You understand that means the guy should have both attractive personality and looks. You also realize that most men are considered unattractive looks wise. So isn't it obvious that when they do get into relationships, it's most probably because of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:52 AM
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So the more patriarchal a country is, the more women are in tech. 😂 Thank god we had patriarchy. Imagine we had Matriarchy and still stuck as cavemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:50 AM
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They keep flipflopping based on whatever suits them. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:05 AM
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Tinder has replicated that as well. Casual dating where there are no monogamous restrictions also replicates that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:58 AM
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Chadfishing has proven that all wrong. You all need to get out of this delusion that women aren't visual creatures like men. The wiring is to make sure they select good genes and good looks are an indicator of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:57 AM
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They are not attracted to their looksmatch. Men aren't becoming providers. They are becoming backups. Women are still not considering them for dating. Only for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:55 AM
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1: Most men aren't deemed attractive on average. Bottom 80 are considered below average by most women. 2: Almost all of them will still end up in a relationship or marriage. Only way this can happen is either woman are settling or by some miracle all of those men are somehow finding that one girl who finds him attractive. Occam's razor says it's the former. It's not about making enough money. It's about having a stable monogamous relationship with a husband and kids. They can get money easily. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:40 AM
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Would definitely want to be the woman. If you really need to put effort to have some chance with a guy or girl, they aren't into. They only like you for your efforts and not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:52 AM
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But for the people who are raped I think they kill themselves bc the rape haunts them of sorts, they play it over and over, so the anxiety,fear, paranoia builds and strangles their minds until they want to kill themselves. I think they kill themselves to escape their pain. The same reason goes for paternity fraud. Men are also human beings who are deeply hurt by such a betrayal. Either you don't see men as humans or just lack any semblance of empathy. I wanted to understand men's POV. I have tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:48 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:19 PM
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It would.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:36 PM
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Yes. But you are deflecting and taking this in a direction that wasn't the point of my original comment. Will the world run as is with temp chaos if men stopped working? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:33 PM
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We are talking about what happens if men stop working and women have to run all those jobs. Remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:29 PM
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Yeah, that's not nuance. But whatever helps you. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:23 PM
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Let's see. One of the ways tech runs is Internet. What do you think is the gender ratio of people who fix the submarine communications cable?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:21 PM
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OMG. I am not even reading all that bruh. Who knows what all imaginary arguments you are addressing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:18 PM
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You think those tech run via magic? Men still maintain the infrastructure needed to run that tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:16 PM
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Irrelevant. Women didn't suddenly develop musculature in last 50 years that they will replace men in physically demanding jobs. Reason why they fight for representation in white collar jobs but not blue collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:49 PM
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Good thing confirmation bias and awareness of it can make people take extra cautions to not allow it to cloud their judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:48 PM
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Nope. 90% of the women went on strike in 1975 in iceland on a day. The country ran as is and had difficulties only in regards to child care. A temporary chaos which would be adjusted for if it continued for a few months. Fish factories closed because women worked most there would have easily found male replacements soon. If 90% of the men went on a strike, the result wouldn't be the same. Many jobs which are male dominated but also risky & require high physical strength would struggle to find re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:46 PM
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If they have encouraged you to open up, and especially in that moment (and not just when you’re trying to avoid accountability) then she would be in the wrong. This post is exactly about that. About being consistent. if you are encouraging to open up but got the ick when he opens up. And no trauma dumping is not toxic. Sure, it's a bit hard to listen to all the suppressed emotions and be there because you may not be equipped to handle that but only the least empathetic people will call it toxic.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:39 PM
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Yes, but only as a romantic companion and to continue the species. All women could stop working tomorrow (not even as a housewife) and do nothing but live their life & maintain a above replacement rate, nothing would happen. Temporary chaos for a few months but world will adjust. Women need men for far more than that. If men stop working tomorrow, so much of infrastructure already built will stop working soon. New infrastructure may or may not be created. The internet where they usually scream "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:31 PM
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I have seen it. Unfortunately, there are no quantitative studies done on this that I can present it as evidence. Thankfully, due to my brain's ability to recognize patterns, I don't need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:23 PM
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No, it's not. Your next paragraph proves it. You graduated from calling it trauma dumping to calling it toxic. I only talked about a man not having any channel to open up and because of that opening up to you first time may lead to trauma dumping. As a typical misandrist, you call it toxic. Actually build trust with someone? hey genius, you realize we are talking about men who open up because their women convinced them she is safe space? If there is no trust, that's because those women lied abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:20 PM
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If that inconsistency is generally found among women at a higher rate than men, expect criticism of the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:01 AM
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The women who want emotions (me) aren’t the women who get the ick from them. Yeah. That's what they all say. There is a huge difference between expressing emotions with someone you have built trust with, and are in the headspace to sit with you in the hurt; and trauma dumping someone who doesn’t want to hear it, doesn’t have the capacity to hear it or doesn’t know you well enough/the trust hasn’t been built up enough for that level of vulnerability Another excuse. Women are getting ick because m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:59 AM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 07:44 AM
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You only fantasize about thinks you like/want. You don't fantasize about things that you don't want or like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 07:24 AM
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I don't see why it would pain men so much they would kill themselves. I wonder the same about women who are raped. Why would it pain so much? Just sex which was against your force. Right? I don't see why u would kill yourself bc someone lied to you or manipulated you ? Same thoughts about rape. Why would you kill because someone fucked you against your will? Maybe they kill themselves bc of pain of loss, like grief ? Same again. What did you loose when someone raped you? There is no grief. So wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:25 AM
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Again, reporting rate of rape will be higher than SA excluding rape and SA overall. Rape is an extremely traumatic event that the idea of 2.7M women just moving on every year is utterly laughable. That's what it's supposed to mean. The questionnaire or surveys don't care. You were drunk and a man initiated? Rape. That's how the numbers are inflated. Start telling facts. Not victim narratives. A minority of population victim blames. Majority doesn't. Women will get justice when there is proof bey…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:53 AM
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Lying is also "I forgot my homework", "I did the dishes" etc. Paternity fraud isn't just lying. It's manipulating a man into using his money, time, love, and resources to raise a child. A child who he loves more than himself. A child he will be extremely attached to and emotionally invested in. "Rape is just sex without consent. I don't understand why sex would be worse than fraud" is how you sound like. I can see how much you disagree with paternity fraud with your constant minimizing. Paternit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:47 AM
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I meant a valid reason for why there is a 95% underreporting. Sexual assault/harassment is very broad and may involve incidents where the pro's of getting justice outweigh the cons. Rape is a type of SA which is at the extreme end of it. It doesn't. Groped is SA and a woman might think it's not worth the hassle to go and report it. But a woman who was raped doesn't. There you go. Too drunk/high/passed out. A man who drives when he is drunk is responsible for his actions. So is a woman who consen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:07 AM
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Yeah, My bad about that 40% reporting rate. Still, the idea that 95% are going unreported is bs. The reasons you mentioned are valid for sexual assault but rape wouldn't have a 95% underreporting. Either extremely flawed survey or broad definitions that involve regret sex as rape because she made bad decisions when drunk or felt coerced or quid pro quo situations. Either way, let's focus to the main topic. Assume your 25% numbers are correct and there is a guaranteed solution that will cost 2B t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:18 AM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:44 PM
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Rape isn't the same as sexual harassment. Either ignorant or disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:44 PM
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Given the nature of the crime, I wanted to be sure before I call BS on that. So I looked into the source of that claim. That 25% number is absolute BS. That 25% figure comes from "The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey: 2016/2017" Upon looking at the source, the same section claims: One in 4 women (26.8% or 33.5 million) in the United States reported completed or attempted rape victimization at some point in her lifetime (Figure 1, Table 1). Two percent (2.3% or about 2.9 milli…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:43 PM
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Ofcourse you know what you want. Without knowing what you want, how will you fantasize about it. Question is will you admit that or deny it. Seems you all are choosing the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:09 PM
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I am not. Show me where I said that. You certainly are against a solution that prevents men from being deceived into raising a bastard. It's as weird as women obsessing about rape when they haven't been raped. You may lack empathy to be unable to understand how paternity fraud is a bad thing but I do think all evil stuff should be prevented to the extent we can irrespective of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:08 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:06 PM
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No. It wouldn't be. Rape kit and its use must be done at an extremely sensitive legal standards to not contaminate evidence. A mandatory Paternity test would be a simple cheek swab and a lab test after birth. Anyone can ask their spouse and yet millions every year don't. It's not a grey issue. If she knows that there is a possibility the alleged father isn't the biological father like in Mamma Mia, then she is lying and will be caught when she tries to name any one. If she doesn't name anyone, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:06 PM
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No. You fantasize about things you want. If you fantasize about being raped, you want it or some aspect of it atleast. Like wanting to be a superhero but only the power part and not the responsibilities or expectations. If you fantasize about rape, you want it or you want something that you can only get with rape. Now I don't care to delve deeper because the very idea of fantasizing about such stuff disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:20 PM
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Another genius who cannot use common sense statistics. Denominator isn't the whole us female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:18 PM
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I don't think rape and abuse of women is a major problem. Any and all programs intended to prevent that should be cut off and if women to protect themselves, they should do it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:54 PM
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You could also be a bully and a bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:53 PM
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Again, men men who raise those bastard don't feel the need to test the paternity of their child. Because they think women are good people and not soulless monsters who would gladly let men raise bastards than spend a teeny tiny fraction of the budget to stop it. I am getting bored of your bs. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:53 PM
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You want women who deceive men to get away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:50 PM
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You want women who deceive men to get away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:50 PM
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That's the problem genius. Most men don't have doubts and end up raising some bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:13 PM
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Not caring about the deception of 5M every year who are raising someone else's kid makes you misandrist. Poor husband, son, and male friends. Some of them might be raising a bastard and you would absolutely support the woman in the scenario. If that man said a mandatory Paternity test would have prevented since he was naive to trust her, you would belittle him and make him the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:13 PM
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2B is a lot less for men who are being deceived into raising someone else's kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:09 PM
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How do rape kits prevent rape bruh? Mandatory Paternity test prevents paternity fraud. Rape Kits are good for investigation & evidence collecting. I am in full support of them. My argument is women will support something even if it costs billions in their pursuit for justice and to prevent being victims of heinous crimes. I fully support that. Now tell me why you don't support Mandatory Paternity test. What downsides does it have? It is a guaranteed solution to prevent Paternity fraud at a tiny …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:06 PM
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They are invasive, traumatising to the women who will probably relive the moments of assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:00 PM
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Hahahaha... "some form" doing the heavy lifting here. Talk about the forms that are on the same level of evil as paternoty fraud. Catcalling, a sexual comment, a smack on the ass etc will be part of that some form of sexual assault. While it's bad and unacceptable, it's not on the same plane as paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:58 PM
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They could take out 2% of snap funds. A tiny fraction of the money they spend on israel and ukraine. End all diversity programs or welfare programs etc. Dude, budget of US is in trillions. This is 2B. Stop acting like 2B is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:30 PM
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There is a world of difference between "Earn more money to become attractive. Plenty of gold diggers" and "Wearing expensive clothes gets you up 2 points". Leave it dude. You think gold diggers attraction to someone with money is real. No point arguing someone who thinks that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:07 PM
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Nobody argued otherwise nor did redpill say women lie about wanting attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:03 PM
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What will you copy paste? That a man can his attractiveness by earning more money because there are gold diggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:54 PM
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That shit is obvious. What isn't obvious, because women keep saying otherwise, is that looks matter so much more than character. A man who says he fails at dating is told it's because he is a bad person and not because he is ugly. Women will absolutely deny that a good looking douchebag will have more success than a average or ugly gentleman. If that gentleman ever says his looks are the problem, isn't he told it's because of his personality and not looks? You cannot raise your attractiveness by…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:50 PM
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How fucking predictable. I expected this responses. Yes, I mean like fifty shades of gray. Something men will admit they like and not pretend that they hate. Men aren't out here claiming they don't like rough sex while jacking off to rough sex. Women are out here fingering themselves to Christian Grey and then claiming they hate men like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:34 PM
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Rough Porn: Is consensual. Doesn't involve any permanent injuries. Only intense roleplay with boundaries. Violent Porn: Doesn't include any of that. Isn't consensual. Can lead to permanent injuries and no concern if it does. No roleplaying but actual desire to harm. No boundaries. With that I am ending this convo. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:29 PM
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The fact that you twist what I asked and then answered tells me all I need to know. You said: studious, nice, polite, hard working and to be their friend. At school it was the sporty guys or the bullys. seeing girls get with bad boys and sporty guys I asked: if I ask women who is more of a green flag and who they will date, they are going to admit it's the jock/bully and not the nice, polite, hard working friendly guy. But you have to conveniently change that from "Jock/Bully" to "hot confident …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:26 PM
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Still wrong. This is a one day old topic and I have presented all stats and figures in this comment section. Feel free to read up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:20 PM
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Wait. So if I ask women who is more of a green flag and who they will date, they are going to admit it's the jock/bully/bad guy and not the nice, polite, hard working friendly guy. Sure buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:16 PM
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Wrong again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:13 PM
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Rape kits aren't a guaranteed solution which will prevent rape with no downsides. Absurd comparison. Mandatory Paternity tests are a guaranteed way to end this crime and have no downsides except money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:12 PM
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Spoken like a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:11 PM
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Fucking idiot. 500 USD per test. 3.6M births per year in USA. 1.8B Use a calculator pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:11 PM
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Wrong on so many counts, it's laughable. Use one of the plethora of search engines. Not here to spoonfeed you the meanings. And that's not leeway. There have been studies that show men get desensitized with normal porn and seek out more dominating stuff. Still not violent or non-consensual. Rough and consensual is what they seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:22 PM
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No. For that to be true, a huge portion of men has to be watching violent porn. And they should specifically seek it out. Starting with normal porn and getting desensitized and seeking more thrill isn't the same. Number of men who seek rough porn is high. Not violent porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:13 PM
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Common sense. Imagine the time ted bundy lived in. A very tiny portion of the female population had enoigh resources and freedom to be able to send him the letter. Yet, he got so many.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:11 PM
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Play? No. Fantasize about being in warzone like in those fps games? Yes. They won't because of the risk of death and injury bug if they had an opportunity to do go into warzone, do heroic stuff but without any risk to themselves, they would
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:10 PM
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Everything they read vs Everything they fantasize about. Know the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:09 PM
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The percentage isn't as small as you are trying to imply
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:09 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:08 PM
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A significant percentage of them are or would given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:08 PM
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It is as common as sexual assault. The reason it won't be implemented is simply because it helps men. Nothing to do with rarity. If a crime affected women to the extent and had a guaranteed solution with absolutely no downsides (except cost), it would have been implemented by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:07 PM
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Why can't we do both? Govts spend more on trivial stuff. If there was a crime as heinous as paternity fraud that affected 5M women were with a guaranteed solution for $17B every year, you all would be supporting it. Just because it's men, you don't want to spend $17B which would be extremely tiny fraction of the budget. Proving again and again my belief that Misandry is extremely rampant and misandrists like you are everywhere. SNAP alone has 100b but save 100K men from evil like paternity fraud…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:03 PM
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I was talking globally. 125M to 150M per year. At a median paternity fraud rate of 3.7% (as per a meta analysis of various studies), we are looking at 4.5M to 5.4M men. USA alone, median patenity fraud is more than 2.6% which would be ~100K. Big enough numbers to outweigh the tax burden of $1.8B (assuming $500 per test).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:55 AM
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Mandatory DNA test at birth. There are absolutely no downsides to it except some extra tax burden (which is easily outweighed by the fact that it would protect Millions of Men every year). Men can get one in secret but too many are naive enough to not ask one only to be blindsided years later. Many more won't even know ever and die without having the faintest idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:17 AM
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"Nice guys finish last" came in 1946. Manosphere didn't exist then. Not gonna take you seriously if you lie this blatantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:22 AM
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I asked you to narrow it to make it accurate. Narrowing it slightly doesn't make it accurate. Not bothering to read the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:21 AM
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Here are the things I have said: I will take you seriously the day an erotic film about a gentleman instead of someone like Christian Grey has an opening day box office of 30M USD with 82% female audience. It is a big number when considering movies with majority female audience. Even if include all romantic dramas, Fifty Shades is the 4th highest grossing. 3rd and 2nd aren't strictly romantic (pearl harbor and ghost). Which part of this seems like a goal post? Goal Post has always been the same.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:20 AM
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I will believe that when pride & prejudice out grosses Fifty shades of Grey in terms of book sales and box office receipts and women stop using "Nice guy" as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:04 AM
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Sure. Every under 35 women on tiktok heard about him, knew how to send message and had access to send one. And Let's also not exclude children for some reason. You want to narrow it down? Find the reach of those videos, the usual engagement rate for tiktok videos, then account for how many comments are positive and how many are negative. Many factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:04 AM
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a) I am talking about erotica and romantic genre. Not comedy. b) Even then you are wrong. Magic Mike had 19M opening whereas Fifty Shades had 30M
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:02 AM
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All of that is irrelevant to my point: Women liked & loved the film/books.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:04 AM
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Damn. Another genius who used whole female population as the denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:03 AM
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It is a big number when considering movies with majority female audience. Don't care about bdsm community hating or loving it. What matters is women loved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:03 AM
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So in publication since 2 centuries and still didn't sell as many copies as Fifty Shades did in a few years. Shows who is the troglodyte.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:51 AM
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Because they specifically targeted women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:23 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:41 PM
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Dude, I got bored of your arguments. Are you stalking my account now? How pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:38 PM
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It is a very big number of the sample size and the sample size isn't the whole population. I am not sure if you are trying to avoid that or just too dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:28 PM
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No. I have used the discrepancy between their words and actions to claim they are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:22 PM
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It is not a small number. That is the point. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:22 PM
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Show me a single comment of mine that said ONLY women purchased and read the book. Show me where I made that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:30 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:29 PM
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Wrong again. If fantasizing, it is definitely. If watching, maybe or maybe not depending on many factors. A woman watching lesbian porn and a man watching gay porn is definitely homosexual. A woman watching gay porn and a man watching lesbian porn maybe or may not be homosexual. And not sure if your are just trolling or just disingenuous because I literally said It is a fact that if a man is watching gay porn, he is gay. So where is the "maybe" part?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:29 PM
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Small number of women.... right. In USA, 20M tickets sold with 70% women. 15M copies sold with majority women. Right. Just a small tiny fraction. Let me guess, you are now going to divide this number by US female population and say it's a small percentage. I certainly agree there are far more feminists who hate men. All feminists hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:06 PM
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Women constantly deny the alpha vs beta stuff. They say looks, money, and power matter little or none. That they prefer men who are emotionally mature and isn't dominant. Go to twoxchromosomes and say that. You will know. So thanks for proving me right. That what they say vs what they truly desire isn't same. You are stuck on the murder part ignoring the whole point of the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:46 PM
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Oh my god. Are you all this illiterate about statistics. Everyone here has used similar argument. You don't use the entire female population as the denominator. There will be people who cannot afford it. People who never heard of it. People who aren't readers. Let me present it to you this way. There is no erotica about a gentleman (unlike Christian Grey) which sold 15.2M copies. If a population has read X book more than Y book, they like X book more. Fifty Shades of Grey sold 15M copies and mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:38 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:21 PM
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Wrong again. Men are sad because they don't get chicks. They are told it's because they are bad people. They see criminals getting chicks. They get radicalized because of the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:19 PM
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Completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:12 PM
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No. The topic is what women desire. This is getting boring and it's midnight here. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:58 PM
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A) Guess if I someday can afford a Lamborghini, then what I fantasize about right now (to have my own Lamborghini), then I am not actually fantasizing about it. B) Irrelevant. Question is would you want it to happen or not. Question isn't "Is it possible or not". Fantasies maybe possible or not. You may accept or refuse them if they become possible, depending on the consequences of accepting. None of that changes the very simple fact that what you fantasize is what you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:56 PM
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Why are you arguing about consent when the topic is whether character matters or not for getting consent? Stick to topic. Don't care what you got under your bed. Didn't downvote a single comment here but nice to see you whining about who is downvoting you. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:47 PM
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Oh. I won't say you must not meet many women. You may meet a lot. I will say this: They aren't going to share their deep and dark sexual fantasies with you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:37 PM
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Watching vs Fantasizing. There is a difference. If they are fantasizing about being a woman and making out with other women, then definitely. If they are watching, maybe or maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:34 PM
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It's popular I know but if we are going to consider other media, might I recommend this niche book series called fifty shades of grey which sold 150M copies, was translated into 52 languages, and set a record in the United Kingdom as the fastest-selling paperback of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:27 PM
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I will believe that when their actions match their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:24 PM
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It's because of both. Not just one. Yes, they will run away but that doesn't change that they still desire him and if they were to give a guarantee that they will not be his victim but others would be, they wouldn't. Think of it like this. A man who has fantasies of graping women and reads erotica about graping. But never did in real life. He certainly wants to do that to women and will do it if he were given an opportunity with guarantee that he will get away with it. Everyone wants their fanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:14 PM
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I was addressing this part. Guarantee if you ask a random woman on the street who he is you'll get a confused look. Also, you think the women who donated to Jeremy Meeks bail money will admit that openly in personal life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:07 PM
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Remember that article from a few years ago. That article is really a good read for OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:48 PM
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Bodied. 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:45 PM
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He certainly isn't the gentleman that women profess they love and dream about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:41 PM
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Why wouldn't I want my fantasy to be real? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:38 PM
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Another dumbass using whole population as the denominator. 🙄 Even if the 2nd guy has the exposure, no woman is gonna fantasize about him. Appreciate him as a good human being? Maybe. Masturbate to him? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:37 PM
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Source: Box office gross and Book sales of erotica like Fifty Shades of Grey and 365 Days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:36 PM
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Plenty. And I want every one of them to be real but without negative collateral. Just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:35 PM
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I watched one Contrapoint video about trans ideology (or abortion, don't even remember). Too illogical. Never bothering again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:35 PM
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There is a difference between not knowing and not caring. Among those who know about Jeremy Meeks, plenty supported him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:32 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:32 PM
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Where did I say all women? Not even worth arguing and I am getting bored/tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:21 PM
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I never claimed it is rare. I claimed the opposite. Quite obvious who is the retard here. Thanks for proving me right. You want what you fantasize but don't want the consequences. That's why you will not do it. But you still want it. Argue all you want bro. I am getting tired. You only fantasize about things you desire. Whether you will act on those desires or not depends on the consequences. If you fantasize about a girl getting railed by 10 black dudes, you desire such women. You will not choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:21 PM
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Any and all excuses. Love the mental gymnastics. But yeah, fame does a play role. Which is also a redpill belief. Blue pill would deny it or downplay it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:17 PM
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Never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:14 PM
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People loved Rambo and Predator for heroic acts and You certainly would love to do heroic feats like Rambo and Predator. You also are aware it's not possible in real life and would almost lead to your death. So you choose not to. You are talking about whether you will choose to engage in that fantasy or not in real life. That depends on a lot of practical factors. I am talking about whether your desire alone. Not whether you will act on that desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:14 PM
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Dude. Stop this absurdity of using US population as a denominator. That's now how it works. You certainly would love to do some perverted shit to women. You fantasize what you want. Whether you will accept it given the chance depends a lot on practical factors but you certainly want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:11 PM
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More women read erotica about psychopaths than about good and nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:08 PM
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God. Pls learn some statistics and figure out why using the whole population as a denominator is absolutely stupid. Not here to sppon feed you. Have made another comment spoonfeeding someone. Feel free to check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:07 PM
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Yeah. Things that are less likely to happen but you would prefer if it happens. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:06 PM
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Actions vs Words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:05 PM
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It's a sexy fantasy that goes completely against what women say they want in guys. You are misunderstanding. When I said they should know him, I meant they must have heard about him, his crimes and still have access to mail him discreetly. Again. I don't care about the denominator. What matters is what more women react to. Given that they made 59 Shades, 365 days etc huge successes than any romcoms with genuinely good love stories, I know which one women prefer more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:05 PM
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No. Women who read erotica about murderers want to have sex with murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:56 PM
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Who says serial killers aren't kind or of good character? Lol. it's fake We are talking about convicted serial killers. There is no faking. People who never even met that serial killer wrote letters. So stfu about social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:55 PM
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Never said all. Plenty of the normal women do. More love letters for psychopaths than for a good guy who got attested for a petty crime. Deadpool killer got 3900 messages bro. You are telling me none of them came from every day normal women. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:54 PM
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That's the same as saying "If I win a Lamborghini, I would sell it because the mantainence on that is something I cannot afford." You genuinely like Lamborghini or Sword fighting. If you could experience it without the negative consequences, you would. You are just being practical. But you truly desire what you fantasize.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:51 PM
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That's now how it works. The denominator isn't whole US female population. It would be women who knew about him and had access to mail him without any negative consequences. Same goes for the 50 shades argument. Taking whole US female population as a denominator is stupid. Do women write more letters to nice guy in prison for some petty crime or serial killers like ted bundy? More for serial killers. How many women watched good romcoms compared to 50 Shades? 50 shades of grey was one of the bigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:49 PM
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We know you would prefer serial killers. Once again proving it's never about kindness and character. Just like red pill says.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:41 PM
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You fantasize what you want. Even if not that exact fantasy, there is an element of truth to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:40 PM
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You are proving redpill right. Tell me how those guys are more pathetic than serial killer. What have they done that would put them below serial killers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:32 PM
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The women criminals are able to attract are normal women. You know that the women who made fifty shades of grey a blockbuster, wrote letters to bundy, wanted Jeremy meeks to be released etc are all normal women found in day to day life. You pretending as if they are some rare breed of criminals is laughable and disingenuous. Edit: To all those who will disagree and argue with me, I will take you seriously the day an erotic film about a gentleman instead of someone like Christian Grey has an open…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:30 PM
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I have felt like this about both men and women. I know it's shallow but it is what it is. It's an involuntary response. Some people are just too ugly in my subjective opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:30 AM
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It's both. A blind test would show that teachers do prioritize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:26 AM
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You are reversing the cause and affect. It annoys men because women treat such men as losers and by calling a man virgin/incel, you are calling him a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:12 AM
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Of course, they wouldn't say it but that's what they believe. They share what they believe on Internet because of perceived anonymity, support from fellow likeminded people etc. In real life, they don't have that benefit and have to be mindful of spreading their misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:04 PM
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Metoo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:48 PM
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And yet, those very same women will again choose the bear, right after those heroes saved them. Man Vs Bear isn't just an internet thing. We aren't in 2000s anymore. Everyone has access to internet and when millions and millions of women say that, it's a decent enough sample size to conclude that is how women in general think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:37 PM
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If everyone had the day they deserve, most feminists would be suffering in hell. These wins are temporary. There will be consequences soon. The pendulum will swing back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:33 PM
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Don't care. History agrees with me. Women were never oppressed. Forget better, you are worse than males. When men had so-called power, they made the society gynocentric. Everything was about how to provide and protect women. A man's honor was linked to his ability to provide and protect. A man who doesn't was shamed by fellow men. Men were raised as expendable. What did you do with feminism? Make men's life as miserable as you can and still want to. If you had the strength of men, the atrocities…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:12 PM
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Quoting your own comment. Because you didn't buy it or pay for it, you can't really choose what you want. The person who pays for it with their money chooses. Say you want a different car? Tough shit, you get the car that the earner decides you can have. Say you want better insurance with better cover? Earner doesn't want to pay for it, so again, tough shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:51 AM
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Bold of you to say that don't get any say at all. Doesn't that depend a lot on marriage and their spouse? And most marriages involve spouses who have a say in everything. Then get your ass to work and earn for yourself. Nobody forced you to be a stay at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:34 AM
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Disagree. Foundation of feminism is based on the false idea that men oppressed women, women were victims, and men were privileged. The average couple you see at target includes women who look for the top 20 but settled for the bottom 80. Living in a monogamous culture with near equal ratio of population does that. Casual Sex doesn't come with the requirement of monogamy and Pareto principle shows quite obviously. I do agree about threat posed. Female attention poses no threat while male attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:46 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:20 PM
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Nope on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:18 PM
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I mean, you also have to not worry about childcare expenses. Just like a job. When the boss decides someone who they feel is more valuable and replaces you with them. Nobody said you to depend on another person. If you want to work, do that. If you want to be a SAH, do that. Either way, your efforts are being compensated for in almost all cases. To argue otherwise is stupid as well as misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:17 PM
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Average income of US isn't the same as average income of the families with sole breadwinners. If you could understood that simple difference, you wouldn't be making such stupid arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:10 PM
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All of this becomes irrelevant when you realize that SAH also have a say in how they spend the breadwinner's earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:08 PM
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Bullshit. A) Half the work you do is for yourself. So you will be doing that anyway. B) You could be bringing in more money. Or you could be homeless. Being a housewife, you are guaranteed a home and roof. All you need is to that have the most common skillset. C) With a kid, you would be spending on the childcare which you don't have to if you are a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:07 PM
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Scoiety based on what was practical and the biological differences. But if you are going to blame men alone. When they had the power (according to you) to set up a system, they set up one where their honor and masculinity is defined by how much they can protect and provide women. They had more rights but also more responsibilities. And when women had the power, all they did was take the rights but not the responsibilities. With each law, societal change, and policies, they make it worse for men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:02 PM
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There are so many men who are good looking and have it all together, yet struggle in dating because of their bland personality. They have trouble in getting the relationship to last but getting dates? Never. That is obvious in your (A) statement. “It’s not me, it women”. I see you struggle with basic English comprehension as well. What I meant would translate to "It's not just men, it's women as well". Some of you wonder how women stay with abusive partners? Oh, no. We don't wonder. We know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:02 AM
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Hahahaha.. A) As if women don't have some trending political activisim, yoga, fashion, and travelling as their whole personality. B) Bullshit. Men with zero personality but looks get plenty of success. It's always about looks/status first. Do women think men are just blind and naive who cannot see what goes in the world? We can observe who is successful and who isn't at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:14 AM
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A) dating =! long term dating B) I said "Never seen good looking bad guys have trouble in dating or getting into relationships. Only in lasting those relationships longer."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:50 PM
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I never said so but typical of you to put words into my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:11 PM
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If the echo chamber is women's own words, sure. Now starts the insults and assumptions. I actually am above average looking, plus I have certain height advantage with being 6'2. I have had women interested in me. I am the one who isn't interested in dating at all. So carry on the delusions if that helps you cope with your own contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:52 PM
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Your own contradictory comments prove my conviction right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:31 PM
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I know and I already mentioned why in the previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:26 PM
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Thats extremely shallow. Looks don't play a part here. Yeah initially 🙄 Never seen good looking bad guys have trouble in dating or getting into relationships. Only in lasting those relationships longer. Men that aren't traditionally good looking get a woman under only two circumstances. One, he is not traditionally good looking but for that particular women, is attractive. Two, when women are looking to settle down and need someone with whom she can have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:10 PM
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His character wouldn't matter if there was no attraction initially. It is needed, like you said. Without that attraction, you two will only have a friendship. Not a relationship and certainly not a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:58 PM
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I believe the actions of the woman. Not their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:57 PM
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Because kindness is secondary requirement. Without looks, kindness gets you nothing. Am unkind good looking guy will have no problem in getting dates and into relationshis. A kind but average or ugly guy will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:56 PM
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Don't project your lack of self-control onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:18 PM
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