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Being called terminally online by someone who unironically uses the word "status" when talking about dating ,, that's funny xo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:53 PM
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This is written like an alien who was introduced to humanity trough Andrew tate. This ain't how humans function at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:38 PM
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Do you even know what dark triad traits are? You are making them out to be just "asshole". They are not. Dark triad traits are characterized by emotional manipulation and lack of remorse and empathy. People with dark triad traits often present themselves as a perfect partners in the beggining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:26 PM
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When you talk to women,, you realize how stupid and inaccurate that incel rhetoric is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:40 PM
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What was previously referred to as "Shit tests" aren't deceptive ,, they are just saying things indirectly and seeing how the person responds. What are you referring to here as "shit test"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:39 PM
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That's a lot of words to say that you dont talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:36 PM
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"Shit test" are just normal parts of getting to know someone and their intentions in a conversation without being too direct. I say X to see how you react and respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:14 PM
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Sure, but wether or not it's good or bad depends on your intention. When your intentions are good and not selfish, manipulation is not generally talked about as manipulation. So when manipulation is mentioned and talked about, it's almost always negative manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:29 AM
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If you get rejected 99% of the time,, you are extremely bad at reading social ques, or just asking random people out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:08 PM
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That's why it's common that you get to know someone before you ask them on a date. Online dating sucks because you can't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:34 PM
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Then you are dating the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:54 AM
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Attraction is a feeling. Me consciously recognizing someone as attractive doesnt mean I feel attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:08 PM
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Finding someone attractive doesnt mean you are attracted to them or want to date them. I can recognize that someone is good looking while not having any attraction towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:03 PM
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Manipulation isn't particularly a skill worth respecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:41 PM
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People with antisocial personality disorders can have anxiety and all that. Anxiety and psychopathy aren't mutually exclusive nor are they even related to eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:10 PM
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A lot of less desirable men are so because of their actions. Like 99% of the "less desirable" men here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:08 PM
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The increase in divorce chance is not a relavant number for the point you are making. I'll explain it in a fictional scenario, An increase from 1% to 5% would be 500% increase in chance of divorce, but it doesnt mean anything if 100% of marriages would be unhappy. According to the survey, the chance for divorce is 16% at the highest, that is the relevant number. And it states that it is unrepresentive and cannot be used to make any nationwide assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:47 PM
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The percentage of unhappy marriages is immensly larger than the chance for divorce measured in the study. The chance for divorce is higher in the population than the chance for divorce measured in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:38 PM
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Then you should post that data. The survey you linked doesnt particularly say anything as it explicitly stated that it is unrepresentive and cannot be used to reflect on nation wide results. In either case, if a close friend has a divorce,, the chances of divorce goes from 10% to 16% according to the survey
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:32 PM
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I mean, if you have a shitty marriage,, your friend divorcing can indeed give you the courage to end it. In any other case, no, what the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:23 PM
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They infact do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:19 PM
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Most men do just fine. Its A tiny minority that struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:11 PM
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Most men are not what you call "beggars". Only the desperate antisocial people who you should stay as far away from as possible in terms of dating are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:52 PM
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If you are lonely, the last thing you should be focusing on is getting into a relationship. That'll likely just turn into a codependant toxic mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:52 PM
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The empathy gap is showing hard here. Do explain why should someone feel empathy for someone who is willing to take advantage of someones feelings to feel less shitty about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:51 PM
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Most men have incredibly low standards and have to take what they can get. That's not most men. That's just the group you should absolutely stay as far away from as possible when it comes to dating. Most men have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:47 PM
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I definetly wouldnt want anyone using me and pretending to like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:09 AM
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Someone faking affection because they don't want to be alone is < no affection
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:03 AM
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How is dating someone who doesnt really like you "success"? That seems like the worst possible outcome, and definetly worse than not dating anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:00 AM
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They may have some standards when it comes to women's physical appearance, but beyond that they don't really care. To most men, it doesn't matter if a woman is a shitty person or not, as long as they find her attractive, and this is the problem. In fact, alot of behaviours that men complain about when it comes to women happen because men enable that behaviour. This makes dating harder not easier. You don't want to date someone who doesnt really care who you are. So if they fake to like you just …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:57 AM
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Bears don't just randomly maul and disfigure you. Pretty much the only scenario in which they attack humans is if they are desperate or threatened. They dont want to fight humans, they are mostly scavengers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:20 AM
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Your reply confuses me greatly as it doesnt fit in here at all. I wasnt arguing for anything, just correcting the person above who was using incorrect information and has since deleted their comment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:12 PM
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Half of new relationship doesn't mean half of the people getting into relationships. It's just that online relationships are short on average so the same people are skewing the stats
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:19 PM
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Tinder had a large group of men and small group of women to begin with. And isn't really accurate measure for anything. Luckily the median amount of sexual partners over a life time is a more accurate stat and that's something the CDC tracks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:58 AM
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Going forward, will the price of vagina continue to increase or decrease? If so, when can we expect the price of vagina to decrease in the open dating market? For the people who unironically speak like this, it does not matter as the only woman they will be consentually touching is an escort
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:10 AM
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Majority of men still seem to have casual sex, and with a relatively very much smaller group of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:28 AM
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It goes something like this for most people, regardless of gender Bad relationship < single < good relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:00 PM
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Nobody needed me to do anything, I am doing so because engaging with people spewing out incel level rhetoric is fun. Because me and you both know you don’t get play We went trough this a couple of weeks ago and you got so mad for some reason that I am married and have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:02 PM
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I am responding under the automod (offtopic) to call out your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:55 PM
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I mean, you are the one trolling. You are misrepresenting the dating experience of everyone in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:53 PM
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Why would i have a harem of women? Where did that conclusion come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:50 PM
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Are you looking to date instagram models because nothing else explains the situation you are describing here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:47 PM
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The post seems to be about an observation and the reasons behind that observable situation. There doesnt seem to be an argument anywhere, just an observation and a debate about what causes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:40 PM
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So you don't see the point in being friends with other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:13 PM
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It's very similar ,, atleast in the west. young people are more isolated than ever, too many people lack friends and social groups, loneliness is a widespread thing ,, people are less sociable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:12 PM
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I mean, "tons" is a stretch. It's legal in large parts of europe and it isn't anything widespread
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:58 PM
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How would the red pill equate to Incel? Well, if they start bringing up some weird incel theories about chads, alphas and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:13 PM
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Yes, that's the majority of men The majority of men are dating down for various reasons The majority of men are not sexually attracted to their partners Majority of men are indeed attracted to their partners. Why do you keep saying they are not. majority of men arent strugling with dating the people they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:10 PM
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So, alfafuxx and betabuxx, make rules for betas and break rules for alphas, aren't a part of the red pill? Hopefully not or it has turned into just another incel community What does abuse have anything to do with this? Abuse is a word that also carries negative connotation for the terms "exploit" or "take advantage of" something Someone likes you, you are exploiting their feelings for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:00 PM
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How? By saying that most men are narcisistic assholes willing to abuse someones feelings to feel less shitty about themselves They're not Incel terms, so nice try They definetly are, nobody but incels talk about "betabuxx" and some such
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:29 AM
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Well you generalize the shitty behaviour of some desperate cunts onto all men. And If you use incel terms, please explain what they mean so I can actually respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:31 AM
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Rape seems like a compeletely different issue to money. Why are you bringing it up here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:25 PM
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Height, beard, face, tattoos and emotional detatchment. That's what gets you raw attraction from women this day in age. You seem to be describing some very specific type of women. No-one i have ever met has found emotional detatchment attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:05 PM
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Most men are not narcisistic assholes willing to abuse someones feelings to feel less shitty about themselves. Most men are in a relationship with people who they like,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:49 PM
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What kind of romatic loneliness does being with someone you dont like fix?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:22 PM
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Most men have friends and arent that lonely to begin with. If you are so desperate to not be alone that you date people you don't want to date,, you need professional help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:54 AM
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It most definetly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:48 AM
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Well ,, most are doing less so than most men. It's mostly a smaller group of women having sex with s large group of men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:46 PM
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40% of relationships don't mean 40% of people having relationships. If person 1 has 9 relationships that lasted for a month from online and person 2 has 1 relationship which lasted 10 years, 90% of relationships in this group started from online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:10 PM
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Most guys date just fine,, and people similar to them. I am just confused as you seem to be bragging about having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:07 PM
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The study has nothing to do with what you are implying it is about. So it's clear you didn't even open it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:04 PM
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Wtf kind of incel bullshit is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:19 AM
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People really should read and understand the studies and their scope that they use as "evidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:11 AM
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Definetly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:24 AM
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Why are you going on so expensive first dates? Like a coffee date or sum is 20€ at most
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:15 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:23 PM
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What is an F+?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:30 PM
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I said most men. Most men are not narsicistic assholes willing to take advantage of people's feelings. And what risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:13 PM
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Wtf? Most ment ain't dating women they don't have feelings for. Also what does money have to do with anything here? With money you should be exceptionally careful as to not show it off. Also, r/MenAndFemales
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:49 PM
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Because that feeling is what is in the center of most relationships. Most people aren't going to date someone if they don't have feelings for them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:10 PM
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What do you mean "transactional"? Have you never felt infatuation or love before? Sex isn't something you are given, it's something you experience together and which both parties enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:16 AM
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If you need a reason to find s relationship, don't get one. If you think relationships as what you can get out of them, don't get into one. Most people get feelings towards people and want to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:07 AM
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Posts like these make me wonder if we are just helping some alien who has never interacted with humans to infiltrate into our society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:09 PM
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I don't consider skills to be personality and I was specifically talking about skills, when I talk about skills I'm talking about attributes specifically for performing tasks. Skills don't exist in a vacuum. This isn't runescape. What you know affects the way you interact with everything in life. I think most people develop attraction to people who are sexually attractive to them by just looking at them I mean, no. If you get attracted to someone just by looking at them, you are creating a fanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:14 PM
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You just said that men don't care about skills. Like sure, nobody has a physical and thought out list of "skills". Its more so that certain things gets someone attracted. Like very few people feel attraction towards someone just by looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:55 PM
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That just says more about the people you hang out with. Most men with a healthy social life aren't out there just dating anyone that happens by who looks good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:20 PM
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I will say very little lol, the only skills I can think of men demanding is homemaking. This is just you projecting your own non-existant standards on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:13 PM
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cutting ur one arm or cutting two arm. thats how it feels for weak man. I mean, that's how it feels for a desperate narcisitic asshole. Most people are not narcisitic assholes willing to take advantage of other peoples feelings so that they can feel less shitty about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:37 PM
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So you made a hypothetical alternative reality and asked questions about it? Why is this q4w and not a discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:03 PM
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And for those people really need an intervention. They are not in a good point of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:51 PM
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u are more attractive than u realize or its the exception. thats all. That is the standard, not some "exception"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:46 PM
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If your relationship is not loving and mutually generous, leave it. Most people don't deal with toxic relationships for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:43 PM
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Respondants clearly had the option to select multiple options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:00 PM
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At 15-19 years old median men have about 100% more sexual partners. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Median-number-of-opposite-sex-sexual-partners-in-lifetime-by-age-and-sex_fig6_7517094
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:22 PM
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The mean might be similar enough for men and women, but it's distributed so that most women are near the average (which is much higher than studies report) whereas most men are either far below or far above the average. Actually it's the opposite. The median 25-49 year old man has had about 50% more sexual partners than the median woman of the same age. So, larger group of men are sleeping with smaller group of women. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:11 PM
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Sharing what worked for you isnt really advice at all. There is so much nuance in social interactions that it really doesnt help anyone to give someone a small description of the whole situation. Good advice can be given when you observe your friend and see how they interact with people and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:02 PM
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A person might not be doing anything wrong though, they might just be wrong. Well, I suppose major disabilities makes things very hard. Though, most people struggling don't have some major disability and instead are doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:57 PM
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Brits have been doing their own thing. I mostly meant continental Europe. Very few employers care if your degree is from oxford or from University of Silesia
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:53 PM
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Would you take advice on how to run a marathon from someone who's never even had to walk in their lives? That's how we end up with "just be yourself, bro" What? Would you take dating advice from someone who has never dated before? Of course the assumption here was that the friend has experience and thus is able to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:51 PM
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But even the most empathetic person can't really give real dating and career advice to people who are widely different from them. Its's not just empathy that helps with that, its experience. When you witness and are a part of a lot of social interactions, you learn how different types of people react to different things and what the reactions mean. And thus you can guide your friend when you notice the reactions they cause And people are most commonly friends with people who are atleast somewhat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:46 PM
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We are talking about advice given by a friend who knows what the person is doing wrong. The generic advice you see online has nothing to do with that. Nobody online can give you meaningful dating advice because they dont know exactly how you go about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:35 PM
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It's hard for people to accept that some people simply have nothing going for them, and that there is thus no advice that could work for them. If someone has nothing going on, then the advice should be focused on them to get something going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:14 PM
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Most socially adjusted people can give personalised advice if they know you well enough instead of projecting their own situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:29 PM
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I didn't I'm still involved in them. It's just pointless to tell people to get hobbies in hopes of a relationship. That is true. Do not start a hobby hoping it gets you a relationship. But it does give you more opportunities to meet someone who you like when you meet more people, especially with similar interest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:21 PM
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Porn is harmful even in relatively low amounts and the addiction to it doesn't nececcarily present itself like substance addictions for example would. I would know, I have had first hand experience ,, or "right hand experience" if you will
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:51 PM
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You don't seem to talk to a lot of women do you? That's definetly not the experience of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:35 PM
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Most women arent some instagram models who have 1000 people in their DMs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:28 PM
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GenZ is 1997-2012 2012 was 12 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:18 PM
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If you are unattractive to everyone, then that's propably self induced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:20 AM
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You should only be in a relationship with people you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:40 AM
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Someone who finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:39 AM
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Yes. And oldest are 27. And with young adulthood being around 18-26 years of age, most of genZ are either kids or young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:16 PM
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Youngest of gen Z is presently 12 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:11 PM
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Because what you provided isn't really anything that can be used to answer your question with. The only advice that really can be given is that don't talk about money in the beginning to avoid gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:39 PM
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Remember almost 70% of all men report being single now. These numbers are disturbing & not debatable I mean, that number is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:22 PM
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Gen Z are kids and young adults. Of course you aren't going to be amazing at relationships without experience. This stuff is learned with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:19 PM
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But luckily that's not something you have to worry about as that isnt the case in our universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:00 PM
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However, if a similar stereotype is applied to women (women like men who have status and money), the responses vary. They might deflect with statements like "Not all of us are like that; we are all different so you can't make a claim like that," People speak from their point of view. Instead of trying to figure out why some people are gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:34 PM
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The exact meaning of the words is a small part of the whole thing. Only about 10% of the communication is the meaning of the words. The rest is how you act and say those words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:49 PM
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Seeing you with another man or woman will be even more devastating. If you care for them at all, don't do it. Why? Crushes aint that deep, you propably arent thinking about your old crushes even a month after a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:31 PM
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Why does this read like a 4chan post?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:50 AM
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It is 2 seperate trials. it is not a case of which will look worse. She was placed under reasonable fear of bodily harm due to his intimidation. Then there is the retaliatory strike with the hammer which looks like it was not intended to hit the person so it likely isnt assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:03 PM
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Maybe he should press charges for assault and vandalism with a deadly weapon and drive his point home, then sue the restaurant. Neither party is blameless. He can sue, but the cashier can also press charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:25 PM
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That's basically what we have here. It doesn't really do anything to help with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:32 PM
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How do you guarantee the ability to chase dreams when there is a kid that requires 2 dayjobs worth of attention for the first few years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:10 PM
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Attractive or physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:13 AM
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Those kind of major deformaties that would prevent you from dating aren't that common. So it's infinitely more likely to be something else
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:50 AM
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Most millionaires definetly wouldn't go after a barista.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:13 AM
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Most people don't provide for anyone long term in modern age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:45 PM
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It's definetly not the norm for men. Most people marry people who make similar amounts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:04 PM
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"If you think apple is sweet, do you also think that oranges are bitter?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:31 PM
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They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:57 PM
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These are not equivalent. But people who date for money are called all sorts of things incase you haven't noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:48 PM
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As a man, I share OP's question. Why do people try to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:10 PM
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I have uni access, but Its pay walled so I know you didn't read it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:51 AM
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Now that's just misrepresenting the study and its methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:44 AM
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How is this even related to the study? The study was about comparing wether or not women rate men with money higher than men rate women with money
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:34 AM
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The study is behind a paywall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:28 AM
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This all sounds like its a guide for casual sex. i dont know a single person who thinks like this. I feel like you are just projecting. You are shallow and dont care about the people you date, so you expect everyone else to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:21 AM
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Yes I'm talking about money/status as an attractor for female Why would you want a gold digger who is attracted to your money? People who make a lot go to great lenghts in hiding their financial situation when dating to avoid that. Yes I agree that most people date and marry people who look similar, earn similar etc. There's a reason for that. Yes, and it is simply proximity and similarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:07 AM
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I'm talking about real relationships. Where people pair bond (aka fall in love) and develop an actual partnership. Where they raise kids together. But you were talking about money and "status" so no you were not talking about relationships. Most people date and marry people who earn similar amount and are in similar socioeconomic class
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:05 AM
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I suspect this is the real reason. Money and status is how a large % of men attract women. But because women are actually outpacing men in college attendance and graduation. There's not enough men who are either good looking enough to date for looks alone or have enough money/status to attract women. I don't think that many men are looking to date gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:01 AM
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That picture is not about attraction. People generally arent attracted to the people they see on dating apps. There is no feelings, you just swipe the ones that look good. Attraction, as in actually getting attracted to someone, getting a crush and all that is what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:55 PM
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Explain why it isn't how it works. People are nuanced, social situations are nuanced, attraction is nuanced. You cannot reduce it down to some stats and subjective x/10 ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:41 PM
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I love every bit of this :D ,, it's hilarious to read these posts. But as a man, I can confidently that just isnt how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:32 PM
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no shit women dont like the ugly reality of male effort exposed. This isnt "male effort" This is some weird thing chronically online and socially isolated people seem to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:28 PM
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I don't think there's a lot of guys here who'd do anything but settle right in to being the one who initiate 9 times out of 10. According to some survey some time ago here, vast majority of people here are virgin men in their 20's who struggle with talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 07:22 PM
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3rd if she's not attracted to you it'll come off as harassment What the fuck kind of conversations are you having with strangers that would come of as harrasment? Like, you don't just walk up to someone to say that they are cute. Thats weird, you kind of are supposed to get the other person interested in talking with you before you escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:31 PM
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Yeah, it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:24 PM
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Why are you spying on "top dudes" when they are in private with their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:14 PM
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People meet organically. You don't know who you might talk to on any given day
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:49 AM
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that’s theft. Not entitlement. You would be entitled to your property. The situation also being theft doesnt change the fact that you are entitled to it. Entitlement as a word isn't negative by itself. Its the context which gives it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:24 PM
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Those 2 people end together when they both get a crush on each other. They arent analyzing their "SMV".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:16 PM
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Yes. If someone thinks that being tall is enough, its the same situation. Though my guess is that the overlap between the 2 groups is rather large
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:56 PM
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That is what gets people together. When 2 people get that feeling, and communicate it to eachother, they usually start dating eachother,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:45 PM
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There is no contradictions. That wasnt my point. My point was that anyone who thinks that not being fat is enough, is a person you should stay as far away from as possible, when you want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:11 PM
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Have you ever had a crush or been in love? People don't give a shit about anyone else if they actually like you. The feeling you get is like nothing and nobody else matters
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:02 PM
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Your first choise is often bad. Most people don't marry their high school sweethearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:59 PM
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What you said was All a woman has to do is not be fat. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:42 PM
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Nobody wants a relationship with someone, who would be willing to date you just because you are not overweight. You want someone who also cares about much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:36 PM
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To be fair, this is only the case with the people you want to stay as far away as possibe. Nobody you'd actually want to consider for a relationship is like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:29 PM
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Thinking that you deserve a relationship is indeed being entitled. Wether or not entitlement is a bad or a good thing depends on other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:12 PM
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Wanting is just desiring something, entitlement is thinking that you inherently should or deserve to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:02 PM
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For the same reason I dont view non-virgin guys over 25 as "leftovers". Because who the fuck does that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:56 PM
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Are men and women meant to be friends for a period of time before becoming more intimate? How is a platonic friendship to be achieved, only to have it morph into something more. Since attraction is, in this scenario, already present - how does a man or woman build on the friendship first for a healthy relationship in future. Do you bypass friendship all together? Nope. you never should become friends with someone in hopes that you date them later. Friendship is friendship, if it turns into somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:08 PM
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Quora is pretty much just a troll site at this point. I dont think there's anybody left asking sincere questions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:40 PM
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You forgot to actually post the picture. Though, the question wasnt if it is biggest, online relationships have the trait that they are usually very short, so the same people hopping from relationship to relationship will give it an advantage in that regards. The question was about you using modified data.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:53 PM
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Likely just removed the ones that are redundant The whole pandemic period is redundant when analyzing where new relationships are formed each year. So that can't be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:27 PM
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That's not the only change. Some categories are outright removed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:16 PM
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Why is that graph edited to show different numbers, than the credited author showed in his paper?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:50 AM
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xDDDDD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:40 AM
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But it was. You saying it's just an app bro doesn't invalidate anything. START READING WHAT I WRITE YOU DUMB FUCK
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:24 PM
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In other words you cannot invalidate it or the loneliness study and your defense is There is nothing to invalidate. The data exists, but it isnt usable in the way you used it because that wasn't the scope of what was done. No study about loneliness was posted anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:20 PM
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Guy at high school with the highest bodycount that every girl in high school want to fuck. So Chad is a fantasy being? What you are describing doesnt exist outside of anime or highschool comedies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:16 PM
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Then go ahead and explain what the actual study is saying. It's just showing how people behave in the enviroment of a dating app. It isn't even a study, it's just data from the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:15 PM
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I see so the study and everyone's interpretation of it are just wrong now. I have only seen incels and grifters trying to take advantage of said incels present it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:12 PM
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Who is chad? And wtf is this fever dream you are describing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:10 PM
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Women are only attracted to the top 20% Arent stats, those are your interperations of the numbers the study presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:09 PM
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But the fact that all the studies on those forums are bullshit was. are you a troll or just stupid? You should leave those incel forums where you find that kind of bullshit. Was said in response to you going off about women only wanting top 20% of men. It made no comment on any study whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:51 PM
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You ain't allowed to block people here. I'll report this real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:46 PM
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"Singleness rate of men" wasnt even brought up at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:44 PM
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This you? First you say that the studies are complete billshit and then you say it doesn't relate to anything here. This is about the "women only finding 20% of men attractive" attractive crap
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:43 PM
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I did no such thing. I said "Maybe read the study and not link some random clickbait article."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:37 PM
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That ain't no ad hominem. Its just a statement. An ad hominem occurs when an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attributes of the person making the argument, rather than addressing the substance of the argument itself. I wasnt rebutting an argument, I was just announcing my leave from it since you havent read the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:36 PM
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So you bring up the 2/3 men are single without even having read the study? If that's the level we are on, I aint gonna be wasting time on you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:33 PM
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And I never refered to that pew research study as pointless, just said that you should read it so you understand what the numbers mean. Did you even read what I said at any point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:31 PM
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You started bringing up some random shit aswell,. When a man is looking for casual sex isntead of a relationship, the problem is somewhere else than men "not being able to get it"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:27 PM
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The fuck does this even mean? Why would the way she looks change the people she likes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:25 PM
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The study isnt about loneliness. And I was referring to the OKcupid study in the context you were trying to use it for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:22 PM
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Again, read the study and the reason behind it. I already explained some reasons for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:17 PM
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If you are in a spot where you think that you "need a relationship", you are not in a position to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:13 PM
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That is how you look at quantitive studies. You dont just look at a number and stop there, you find out why that number it the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:09 PM
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Thats why I said will do. People have all sorts of issues in their early 20's. Regardless of that, most men ages 18-29 are having regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:53 PM
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Would you like me to quote the actual study to you? Or are you going to point out to me where I went wrong misinterpreting it yourself. You dont need to link it, just read it. There are factors like men looking for casual relationships more than long term relationships in their 20's, which is reflected in the fact that median young man has had twice the amount of sexual partners than the median young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:48 PM
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That's nice and all except women in the past also rejected the majority of guys and looked exclusively for top percentage men. I suppose those obese balding men at walmaret are "top percentage men". Truth is, most men will figure it out. Though, men who unironically use the term "chad" are very likely to stay in the <1% of men who will never find anyone. Sorry, 63%* of young men are single. Maybe read the study and not link some random clickbait article.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:44 PM
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??? So a study about dating doesn't relate to anything about dating? Is that what we are trying to argue now? Go ahead and try to make it make sense. It makes perfect sense when you take it as what it is. It's a dating app. You remove the human part of dating and swipe on people based on a few pictures. You arent attracted to people you swipe, you just think they are good looking enough People reject people on dating apps they wouldve talked to in a natural context, because that just is part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:35 PM
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The study is about OKcupid ratings. It doesnt relate to anything here. Also the stats with the loneliness epidemic match up precisely with this. Loneliness isnt about dating. 10% of US adults doesnt have a single friend. That is what the loneliness epidemic is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:27 PM
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women only find 20% of men attractive. In other words it doesn't matter how much a guy tries he's basically screwed if he's not apart of that desired 20% (aka Chad). You should leave those incel forums where you find that kind of bullshit. Most men will do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:24 PM
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Except average women reject guys too. Just being "equal" doesnt mean you are compatible or that the other person likes you. People don't date based on some "stats" they date based on feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:15 PM
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Nobody's been priviledged with apps besides people looking for hook ups. For everyone else its just looking for a diamond in a pile of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:11 PM
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People can fulfill their sexual needs on their own by masturbating. You do not need a partner to fulfill those needs. If you feel like lack of sex is affecting your day to day life, it might be a sign of an underlying issue, like hypersexuality disorder and you should seek help from mental health professional
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:50 AM
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Well, I am 22 and most people i know are against it on some level. They would hate to have some 30+ year old hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:07 PM
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Speaking to me isnt "doing something" to me. Touching someone is doing something to a person and you indeed can't just go around touching people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:13 PM
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you're currently doing the incel thing of trying to describe all the micro-interactions of sexuality, when it is actually a lot simpler. you go to da club, you expect to put hands on someone to dance, flirt, etc... and you expect to have hands put on you, cause that's what a dance actually entails. If someone put hands on me without me making it clear i wanted that i'd assume you are trying to pickpocket me or something. That is wholely unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:43 PM
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better question, why do you think you're allowed to control what other people do? Why shouldn't I be allowed to control what other people do to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:36 PM
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I am trying to understand what even was your point. You didnt make it very clear in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:15 PM
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So, if someone robs me, the assumption is that i wanted to give them my money without specifically denying it? rather than the alternative where it's assumed that I dont want to give them money, so they have to ask if i want to give them money?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:00 PM
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In a debate, it's crucial to focus on one main point at a time to avoid confusion and ensure clarity. Additionally, using clear, simple language insteaf of jargon or complex terms makes your argument more accessible and easier for your audience to understand and you more professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:47 PM
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Not that i've noticed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:41 PM
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Pandemic might have had short term effects on it, but things seemed to go right back to normal after restrictions ended. But I am not sure how the short period of higher than we are used to inflation affected all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:36 PM
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Well, 70% of men aged 18-24 and about 90% of men aged 24-35 reported to have had sex in the last year in a study done in 2018. Trends in Frequency of Sexual Activity and Number of Sexual Partners Among Adults Aged 18 to 44 Years in the US, 2000-2018 - PMC (nih.gov) The fact is that most men aren't struggling to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:28 PM
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Why did you start yapping something about respect and hobbies, if it's all about marketing and personal gain?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:39 PM
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Where do they get accused of exploitation? What? I have never heard anyone ever say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:49 PM
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Yes, it is, you fundamentally hold different men and women to different standards of respect all the time, this is your foundational expression of hierarchy. You say this, yet you give 2 examples where respect has nothing to do with the way I communicate. Sounds like even you don't know what status is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:43 PM
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The wider social attitude blames the cheater, not the person that the cheater cheated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:02 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:35 PM
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It's a tiny minority of men. Most men will do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:26 PM
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Ofcourse "status" still exists in some contexts. But its not a part of our interactions or daily lives like it used to be some hundreds of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:10 PM
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Yes, that's why most people don't talk about or think about "status". It simply isnt a meaningful part of todays society or social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:07 PM
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I noticed this a while ago, and I notice it even more on this sub whenever a some guy makes a post about criticising anything about women. To be fair, most of the "criticising" I see here is emotionally loaded generalization and fringe opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:45 PM
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I mean, I wasnt referring to PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:42 PM
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and when talking to men Now that's not true at all. I hear about "pickmes" and "annoying bitches" very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:34 PM
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So status just is just a general term that can mean literally anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:28 PM
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And that is why it requires the context to interpret. That is why run off and runoff mean compeletely different things. The word "run" requires the context of water to not denote an action. So if you say start analyzing the words seperately in the compound word of "runoff", you come into a totally different conclusion than looking at the compound word as a singular term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:17 PM
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They are very relevant if you actually read what I say. In english, the word run being used with water emerged from the observable similarities between the movement of water and the action of running,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:12 PM
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The literal meaning of the word does not. This is why other languages don't have it as they evolved differently. Directly translating the words into their literal meaning doesn't work, because the word is being used metaphorically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:08 PM
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Are you intentioanlly misinterperting what I am saying or are you dumb? The literal meaning of the word "run" doesnt associate with water. The reason it is used with water is metaphorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:58 PM
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Other languages aren't relevant. And yes water runs in English. If you'd only bother reading what I just wrote. The word denotes a literal action taken by animals.. And is thus used metaphorically when describing water.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:50 PM
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Water doesn't run, run is an action performed by animals. the word is being used metaphorically in the sentence. The meaning of runoff is learned seperately. A lot of places don't do it with that word. For example in finnish language, water can't run. If you refer to water as "running", you could only know what is going on if you knew that it was a literal translation and knew the methaphorical meaning in english.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:41 PM
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Oftentimes yes. Runoff = Runoff is excess water that flows across the land and into waterways. Run = "move at a speed faster than a walk, never having both or all the feet on the ground at the same time" Off = "away from a place or position, especially the present place, position, or time:" And with slang words, its even less related, you have to look at the term as a whole. Analyzing the individual words too literally doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:12 PM
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Depends how you define it. I know a lot of women that still entertain fuck boys because they get sex they want out of it. I mean, the generally accepted definition in todays mainstream usage of the word describes a man who engages in selfish or inconsiderate behavior, particularly in romantic or sexual contexts. This includes being manipulative, dishonest, or lacking commitment, often pursuing multiple partners without regard for their feelings. The oringinal meaning that emerged in early 2000's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:06 PM
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Those 2 don't refer to the same thing. Fuckboy = A guy who plays with girls feelings and doesn't really like them and would do and say anything a girl wants to hear to have sex with them or to get something they want. Bangmaid = refers to a woman who is expected to perform both domestic chores and sexual favors, typically within the context of a relationship or arrangement where she is exploited or devalued.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:53 PM
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Compound words very often mean different things than the words that make up the compound word. Especially when you try to define the words independently like OP did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:49 PM
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Let's break it down. The first part. You don't break compound words up like this. Blackboard = Board that is used to write on with a chack Black board = a board that is black.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:43 PM
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It depends on the context of the study. In stuff like psychology, effect size is a rather meaningless number in most cases due to the simple fact that there are so many variables that are unaccounted for. A few percentage R-squared in these kinds of studies is often explained by just normal statistical variance. In psychology, R-squared of about 0.1-0.3 is statistically significant. So when you get a result that shows an effect size of 10-30%. Now that doesn't mean that 10-30% of the cases resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:19 PM
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To be fair, if someone I didn't know walked up to me to say "Hi there" or something similar, I'd assume they are tring to sell me something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:42 PM
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A trait that increases statistical desireability by 1% cross-culturally is absolutely meaningless in trying to describe the preferences of an average individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:31 PM
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What exactly are you saying so that people find issues with a short conversation that fits the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:12 PM
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Stop looking to date gold diggers or porn stars then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:03 PM
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I've never met a single person that does. Regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:35 PM
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You failed to explain what exactly is the "what is wrong with dating now"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:19 PM
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I have never seen that happen. People dont get attracted to others because someone else notices someone. They might get attracted because they notice that someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:13 PM
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Women see others looking up to you, they become attracted Where does that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:54 AM
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In what situation? And why would millions of people give a shit about me? I don't know them, why would they even think about me if I dont make myself particularly noticeable in the moment? I dont assing "value" to randoms i see on the street either, that would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:32 PM
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What does that mean in practise? We dont have some leaderboard that we rank on, so who does the judgeing and determining of your status, and what influence it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:56 PM
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When Chad-Rones have 100s of options, he doesn't need to be "available" in a relationship. Sure, in terms of character, Chad-Rone is cool. Chad-Rone is way more of an interesting person to kick it with as a man-to-man friend. So what you are saying is that Bob and Carl are only "available" because they are desperate and have no options? Would they be unavailable if they had more options? If so, they would be just as bad, or even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:49 AM
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Well, to be fair, most types of bears are more so just opportunistic scavengers rather than predators. A bear doesnt want to fight you. They know that there is a risk of injury and death when enaging large animals, so they prefer not to, unless they feel forced. Except polar bears, dont mess with polar bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:48 AM
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are all feelings that wont necessarily lead you to the person you should be with. The only person you should be with is the person you want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:14 PM
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That is not how it works for men. Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:31 AM
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I find explicit conversations about it very weird, then again, I have never used a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:36 AM
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Yes, and that is a shitty thing to do. If you don't want to be with them, don't be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:44 PM
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So if I date a 300 pound woman I date her because I like her? That would generally be the expectation. Most people date who they like and are attracted to. If you date someone you don't like and arent attracted to, you would fall under what is often referred to as an "asshole"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:13 PM
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However, men don't seem to care much about a woman's social rank; in fact, they might even prefer non-famous people. Most people, men and women would prefer a non-famous person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:45 PM
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Then why did you put the word "PRIMARY" in there? It changes the entire meaning of the sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:40 PM
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You specifically stated that starting a relationship is pointless without sex or family being the PRIMARY reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:17 PM
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So, should we debate the fact that you don't want a relationship, or why is this marked as debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:17 PM
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What you women dont seem to understand with his arguments is that while his conclusion is rather sad and those situations are creepy or scummy he is correct that they arent illegal. The situation being described here can fall under a lot of different crimes. Kicking someone out of your car in a remote or unsafe location would very easily fall under reckless endagerement. If there is coercion being used, like said in the previous messages, it would propably fall under kidnapping and unlawful rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:32 AM
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Where did you check that? Because OF has just about 2 million content creators globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:16 AM
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. This post is about what is and isn't sexual assault, Then why do you talk about rape specifically, and not sexual assault more generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:32 AM
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Why is the title about sexual assault, but the whole post talks about rape specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:27 AM
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Your title says sexual assault, but you seem to focus exclusively on rape specifically in the whole post. Virtually no legal jurisdiction criminalizes having intercourse after repeated requests. And in the absence of force, threats of violence, or confinement, one can reasonably continue to refuse the requests and/or extricate themselves from the situation. Only when efforts to extricate yourself are impeded would the situation enter truly coercive territory, such as if you are physically blocke…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:26 AM
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What does this mean? And like, single parents only exists when the other parents abandons their responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:43 PM
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That just says more about what you interact with on the internet than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:56 PM
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Ahh, so you are just trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:16 AM
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Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:09 AM
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You said So the fuck are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:06 AM
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You stated as your goal to insult people, when i asked what was the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:52 AM
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Pointing out that most single women aren't worth more than some fucks. So you just wanted to insult people without wanting to achieve anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:32 AM
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Then what is the point of this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:29 AM
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If you need to be told a reason to take someone seriously, propably don't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:27 AM
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To most sane and good men, this sounds like an accusation of guilt by association - "you're still indistinguishable from the worst of your kind - so much so that I'd rather be eaten alive than risk being around you". To be fair, bears don't view humans as a food source. If a bear attacks, it's in almost every case for defensive reasons, most bears want even less to do with you, than you want with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:54 PM
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What are you on about? Its very relevant, and atleast logically sound. Bears don't want to deal with humans. Humans aren't prey to them. If a bear attacks you, it's almost always a defensive reaction from the bear. Thats why playing dead is so effective against grizzly bears, it signals to them that the threat is neutralized.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:07 PM
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objective looks standpoint What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:08 PM
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Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older? No, I have not seen that. Infat, its pretty much the opposite. I am 22, and most people I know thinks that large age gap relationships are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:20 PM
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My grandparents have been married for 60 years, and they still love eachother. I am sorry that your marriage didn't work out, but generalizing based on that doesnt seem like a helpfull thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:02 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm This shows the numbers for the ages 25-49.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:53 AM
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It seems to be the opposite. The median man has had about twice the amount of sexual partners at the age 40 than the median woman. So its a larger group of men sleeping with a smaller group of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:33 AM
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I have one, Ideal would be 4 I am 22
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:16 AM
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The same way it changed society in most of Europe, not in any way, shape, or form. Most people dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:45 PM
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Considering that crime is a means to get resources yes, so would if you remove half of men as you'll have double the resources relative to population. A person produces more than they consume on average, so you would have less usable resources relative to the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:00 PM
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They just don't want to compete constantly with other "high performers" This just seems like a personal insecurity. You arent "competing" with anyone, you have already "won". People in a happy relationship with a person they like aren't looking to date other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:22 PM
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The assumption is he did but wasn't able to. Most men are limited by their looks in how much sex they have in life Most men are limited by not going out of their way to have casual sex. Though, the median man still has had about 8 sexual partners by the age 40
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:57 AM
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And what if he doesnt want casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:37 AM
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Hard to explain something I have never witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:42 PM
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But the crime still happened, the victim was wronged. You want these victims to keep getting wronged instead of being able to get away. You sound like a horrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:17 PM
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Crimes happen where there is not enough evidence to convict someone. It doesnt mean that crime did not happen
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:03 PM
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Attraction isn't about judgement or delusions, it is a feeling, it isn't logical, it just is. You cannot choose to be attracted to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:44 PM
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No. If you are abusive you are at fault. The issue is proving the fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:40 PM
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Society benefits from an incentive structure that rewards marriages for staying together and punishes the people that break their duties inside the marriage. But removing no fault divorces reward people who break their duties in marriage. Abusers ect will have a field day when their partner can't suddenly just leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:49 PM
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But isnt it better to just leave, than to suffer trough long process of collecting evidence to maybe, hopefully have a shot in leaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:37 PM
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And if we dont go by the incel shit, it's because normal people are attracted to normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:00 PM
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rise of inflation and so on Inflation has been quite mild in the grand scheme of things. And it was just a short peak, like it always is. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:10 AM
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Why would few inches of bone have anything to do with anything? It's not like being a couple inches shorter makes you undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:52 AM
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How they work depends on the context. So you have to be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:03 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:18 PM
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I dont even know what people talk about when they say "status". Like, wtf does it mean? We arent in high school anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:29 PM
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The opposite of conservatism is progressivism. The opposite of liberalism is authoritarianism. Conservatism and liberalism arent on the same axis, and are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:21 PM
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Which would be a perfectly acceptable standard if it also applied to women. Since it doesn't, I see no reason why men ought to accept it. But it does? Men aren't doing much the whole giving birth thing last time i checked
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:03 AM
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Are these men abandoning kids they consented to have? Or are they just refusing to accept the burden of a woman's unilateral choice? Children born out of a woman raping a man arent that common? If the man had sex with a woman, he has accepted the possibility of being a father
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:40 PM
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Yes people who are on tinder are real humans with real attraction. Not sure why you think otherwise. Where did I say otherwise? I said that them liking you on tinder is not a sign of attraction. Like very few people get attracted to someone because of a photo of them they saw. HVM is a guy who can get women interested in him. Either for sex or relationships. Usually it's for both. So the term doesnt actually mean anything and encompasses pretty much every type of guy there is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:09 PM
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Here again you give conflicting statements. People who likes you on tinder arent attracted to you. They might think you look good enough, but there almost never is any attraction in that point. So "HVM" is just someone, who a certain group of women find decent looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:58 PM
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Its hard to understand, because this sounds like so highschool explanation. I don't know how partying a lot makes someone "high value"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:52 PM
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"High value" in terms of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:38 PM
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"High value" to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:32 PM
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But why even use it then? That term is rather pointless at that point. It doesnt descrive specific traits. It just describes a group of people in different circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:26 PM
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You are not an asshole, but The thing is, unless you actually meet and talk to women regularly, or share hobbies ect, nobody is actually legitimately interested in you. People aren't legitimately interested in someone they match with on dating apps or see on the street. People just don't care that much about random people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:09 PM
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I just want to know why you could have such a narrow worldview I wouldnt call it narrow worldview to think that deceiving and lying to have sex is an asshole thing to do. I am married, yes. I still cant see how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:09 PM
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How come you got so defensive? Seems like I hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:03 PM
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This post seems like you bitching about women not wanting to keep having sex with you after they found out you are a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:55 PM
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The second paragraph is just you deceiving women into having sex with you. I wouldnt call that "semi casual"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:52 PM
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Your post exclusively discusses casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:40 PM
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Your post does not mention feelings and emotions by a word. So no, its not about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:39 PM
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This sounds like its straight from incels.is. But no. "Many" women are not like that. Its a very tiny minority of people you propably dont even get to see unless you flex your wealth around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:49 PM
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Ok what if you don't want a relationship after she did something post-sex? That is not what the conversation at hand is about. What the post is about is pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:47 PM
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Then tell her you dont want a relationship with her. If she leaves, you weren't on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:18 PM
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Being intentionally vague in practice is what makes you sexually successful. Yes, being manipulative is an effective strategy if all you want is casual sex. If you want to be a piece of shit, then be a piece of shit, but atleast own up to it instead of trying to justify it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:18 PM
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You're missing a huge middle ground That falls under the mutual understanding. Both parties understands and takes the situation for what it is. Nobody has the intentions of hooking up with people at a party to find relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:15 PM
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It's not always deception. Sometimes men are intentionally vague and women will fill in the blanks themselves. Or women will think that once she has sex with a guy that he'll want to commit even though he didn't before, like she has a magic pussy or some shit. Oh it absolutely is. Deception: Deception is an act or statement that misleads, hides the truth, or promotes a belief, concept, or idea that is not true Being intentionally vague is an act that misleads and hides the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:56 PM
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One night stand assumes mutual understanding. Pump and dump is lying and deception. Pump and dump is just a man pretending to be interested in a relationship with a woman just to disappear when they have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:34 PM
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I think the whole thing he's going at is it seems a greater proportion of people of the same age demographic are single than maybe was the case in the past and maybe that has some underlying implications for the state of modern dating (something this subreddit is very interested in talking about). Its not even about modern dating, its about modern socializing. People sit home all the time instead of going to places. People have less friends than ever before and this naturally affects things. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:31 AM
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Relationships is not the way to address lonelines. If you try to fix loneliness with relationships, all you end up with is a short lived and codependant relationship and you are worse of than when you started.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:29 AM
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Man its telling you have never been in a relationship. And with these ideas, that wont ever change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:17 AM
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The thing is, there is pretty much nobody who is 40 years old and attractive to your average 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:19 AM
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Why would that matter if there is no feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:18 PM
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Why would that be the case? Pretty much anyone is able to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:23 PM
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What is a win and what is a lose in dating? They say "oh if you fail it's just because you're toxic" when in reality toxicity has little to do with success or failure. Being toxic can be the reason for people not wanting to be with you. It really just depends on how well you can hide it in the beggining, and what kind of people you are trying to get with. The incels are shit at hiding their toxic attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:37 PM
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What a weird way of thinking about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:24 PM
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because men gatekeep relationships. So what is the difference between a toxic fuckboy, and the toxic turbovirgin who thinks like this? Both are toxic, both are people you should propably stay away from
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:22 PM
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These things are propably caused by the same thing. The reason he posts this and the reason he does not have relationships or sex life are propaly closely linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:38 PM
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I like how you were crying earlier about ad-hominems, yet half your comments are such
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:40 PM
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What scenario are you even describing here? This sort of stuff doesn't happen outside of fraud cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:39 PM
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Pretty ironic coming from someone who has made around 20 reddit posts within the last day or so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:24 PM
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You explained nothing. You brought up some random reddit comments as your "explanation"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:16 PM
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What bullshit exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:12 PM
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the difference is most women’s are unrealistic and delusional. This is not actually the case. And standards are standards. They are something you choose. Standards gets thrown out of the window if you actually like someone. And just because someone meets your standard doesnt mean you like them or want to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:45 PM
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Also, dating apps and our culture in general, most women can get a man with little effort, (and not just for casual sex it’s all wrapped up together) the opposite of men’s experience. Finding anyone is not the hard part, this goes for men aswell. The hard part is finding someone who likes you, and who you like. Very few wants the dude who would be fine being with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:37 PM
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"Overpopulation" is well on its way to fixing itself. What we need is something to manage the demographic collapse that follows it in the mean time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:22 PM
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It really depends. 65k in New York city is enough to pay rent on a 30sqm studio apartment and essentials. 65k in a rural town gets you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:19 AM
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It's a question for women. Not a question for incels pretending to be women,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:05 AM
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There’s not a legal requirement that the father be identified on a birth certificate. A father can file to establish a paternity. So yes, the father has the legal right to be the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:12 AM
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First off, you are 100% wrong. There are safe haven laws that allow women to abandon new born babies completely anonymously. Well, not here the very least, or most other places for that matter. And even in USA, safe haven providers must be hospitals ect. Not some fire station. And if the mother says she doesn’t know who the father is, no father has to consent. The father is on the birth certificate. you cant just afterwards say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:36 PM
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It's also the mans choise. Both are equally responsible if that results in a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:32 PM
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Women can also abandon their child at a hospital or fire station. This results in up to 20 years in prison. They can also put the baby up for adoption. Both parents must consent to the adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:28 PM
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How so? They are the ones giving birth and living with that kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:24 PM
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You implied so. You described men as emotionless robots, only taking advantage of someones feelings to fullfil sexual desires Most men do not benefit from their relationships in any tangible way and in fact they are practically a net negative, but they value sex enough to tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:30 PM
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Most men do not benefit from their relationships in any tangible way and in fact they are practically a net negative, but they value sex enough to tolerate it. Most men are not psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:17 PM
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Then there is the consideration of what benefit a bad relationship bring you? Like, why would anyone want to get into a relationship just for the sake of being in one. The hard part for almost everyone is to actually find someone you like and want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:12 PM
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If you're an attractive guy you can have no relationship for 1 reason only - you yourself don't want it. This applies to pretty much anyone. Anyone could have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:00 PM
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There is such a group for men also.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:41 PM
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You made a post where you argue based on false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:14 PM
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I disagree. Then why did you ´make a post without figuring out what you are talking about. If you make a post with false premise, it aint going to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:10 PM
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If 80%+ of people in a particular group engage in a particular behaviour to me the words "most" and the word "many" can be used to describe them. What does 80% have to do with anything here? The gorup you are talking about in your OP is definetly not a majority
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:01 PM
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Many needs a plural verb in front of it to mean "most people". Without a plural verb, it means a lot of people, but not most
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:54 PM
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Most >50%, Many <50%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:43 PM
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The third of men reproducing is very much mislead statistic. it doesn't say anything about that at all. Most men have reproduced, some just did it more. Like Genghis Khan, who has 1000-3000 children born from rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:04 PM
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You don't need to evaluate something to know if you like being around someone. Attraction is a feeling, you don't calculate it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:41 PM
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Rarely. Most often they are just normal looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:05 PM
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Virgins are ugly, literally nobody wants them by definition. It's the best benchmark of attractiveness. No healthy heterosexual man wants to spend his life without sex. I was talking ugly as in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:03 AM
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I said ugly, not virgin. Virgins exists, sure. People so ugly, that they are virgin because of their ugliness are so much rarer. Like, I haven't even seen someone so ugly, that they can't date anyone because the way they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:50 AM
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How do you even evaluate personality in okcupid? You have a picture and text messages to go off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:47 AM
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I have never actually met someone, that is so ugly, that that would be the problem. But yeah, being poor is not that big of an obstacle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:43 AM
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I've never seen or heard anyone do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:33 PM
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A researcher would follow proper methodology. What you falls under the term "stalking"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:15 PM
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It gives the kind of deranged stalker vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:11 PM
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You do stuff like this and then at the same time claim to have high emotional intelligence and be a normal person? This is not a sing of a normal, healthy human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:07 PM
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So someone who is miserable with someone just needs to shut up and be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:04 PM
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They give you an idea where most part of a certain population exists. That is where the median comes in. Using average number for this kind purpose would be very stupid. Average of (1, 4, 5, 7, 19) is 7.2. So in this scenario, 80% of numbers are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:09 PM
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When a man say he's lonely is because he have no one. Friendlessness is indeed a problem, but it is not exclusive to men-. they don't have the company they want. Yes, this is a big part of loneliness. Feeling like you don't have people you fit in with makes you feel alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:55 AM
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How so? If I have a friend who runs 20k in 1hour and 10 minutes, it doesn't add any value to start saying that an average woman runs 20k slower than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:14 AM
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Why does the average matter when you are looking at individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:12 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:07 PM
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Basically she sees the guy as a source of laughter / entertainment. But she doesn't really care about HIM as a person Wtf is this? People don't think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:53 PM
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Simply due to to proximity. Similar people tend to do similar things, hang around in similar places and meet each other that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:46 PM
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Relationships like that happen, but marriages are somewhat rare in those kinds of situations nowadays. People mostly tend to marry and get into relationships with people within similar socioeconomic situation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:36 PM
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People dont get into relationships with people they don't want to be with all that often. At least in the west. Gold diggers are rather rare in the grand scheme of things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:31 PM
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I would imagine it is pretty much the same thing that guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:29 PM
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Luckily, there is a paper that tells us exactly the effects of immigration on fertility rate in france. Which appears to be around 5% but as only a minority of women are concerned, their births increase the French fertility rate by just 0.1 children, from 1.8 to 1.9 children per woman in 2017. French fertility rates top the rankings in Europe not so much for reasons of immigration, but rather because fertility among native-born women is high. https://www.ined.fr/fichier/s_rubrique/29428/cp_pop_e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:25 PM
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Not gonna lie, This looks like 2 middle schoolers texting each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:05 PM
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having more partners should be understood to mean top men. Most men have more partners than most women. Median man has had twice the amount of partners by the age 45 than the median woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:21 PM
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What makes you evil is your intentions. Your competence doesn't make you any more or less evil
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:06 PM
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You went on some weird rant where you sounded like a robot from mars trying to describe how humans feel, so it kind of threw me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:53 PM
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My argument is about prostitution being majorly prevalent. Like major exposure. Very active in the culture/society That’s the basis of my argument. Your argument is something that will just never happen and can't happen. Most people do not want part in it. Prostitution does not replace a human connection. People aren't that desperate for casual sex that any significant proprotion of a population will pay for a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:06 PM
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Prostitution is legal and accepted in several western nations and you can just see that it affected nothing at all. Most people are not involved with it, most people don't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:22 PM
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Only if you are dating gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:16 PM
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Both result in similar outcomes. Flashing wealth attracts the people who want that wealth rather than wanting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:11 PM
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Both studies look at violence and drug use given homelessness and actively encourage means of combating it. That’s just a fact that you’re ignoring. I am not ignoring anything, I am just pointing out the fact, that neither of the studies is relevant here. Dude, progress isn’t made by flipping a magic switch to make all people housed. That can happen but is currently political infeasible. Any progress is progress. This is not progress. Its doing something that looks like you are helping. There is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:26 PM
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reduce crime another The study you linked talks about how abandoned housing affects crime rates. It is not relevant here. The other one looks at kids drug use. Lmao no. Temporary shelter is a temporary home. Evidence routinely shows that homes The scale matters. It temporarily houses 32 people. It is 0.03% of the homeless population of the area, it is a non-solution, it doesn't do anything to fix the underlying issues, or remedy its effects. All this does is gathers homeless people near kids. Is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:13 PM
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With sufficient management they won’t be a problem. This is a temporary shelter, there is no managing anything involved. And drug addicts and homeless people are more dangerous roaming than actually receiving care This is a temporary shelter, there is no care or anything else. The only thing it achieves is that those homeless people and drug addicts are now roaming around the daycare and school area.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:44 PM
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There is some context missing. The shelter was not meant for abused men, it was mainly planned to house drug addicts and men with mental issues. I can imagine why you don't want such place next to a daycare center or school.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:38 PM
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<image> Something like this. A lot of men having casual sex with the smaller percentage of women who are also wanting it plays a part in explaining it., but it isnt the whole story
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:02 PM
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Its the median, not the average. Average is the same for both. Median is the middle number of a data set, 50% are above the median, and 50% are below.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:23 PM
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You cannot exactly get that data in any other way. But it does make sense, a lot of guys are looking for casual sex when they are young
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:18 PM
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Median man has had about twice as many sexual partners as the median woman when they turn 45. Way more men have more sexual partners than most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:30 PM
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Its very relevant, it explains the nuances and causes of the situation. Talking about averages ect is meaningless in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:24 PM
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Either become part of the top 20%, or live long enough to die. 99% of men arent virgins at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:39 PM
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What you are offering is reckless endangerement trough practising medicine without a lisence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:51 PM
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Loneliness is when you are lonely. It has very little to do with dating or "getting none". And who is Chad? And why do you think everyone with a partner is a "chad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:58 PM
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It's common knowledge that women find a much smaller % of men attractive than vice versa. Invisible women exist but in fewer numbers. Nobody is truly invisible unless you make yourself truly invisible. If you never interact with people, hang out with friends, do stuff ect. A better metric would be to look at the numbers of older forever single virgin men vs women. Why would that be the better metric? Like, those spaces attract certain types of people. Most, even normal virgins arent drawn to tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:11 PM
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I didn't say you were. I just said you spoke like one. "Chadopolies" "top men" That's some deranged and weird shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:03 PM
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Man, go outside. You literally speak like a stereotypical incel right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:00 PM
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No, it is not. If nobody wants to be with you, the problem is you, and not just the way you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:57 PM
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Young men are without relationship and sex, because young men are isolated and online. It has nothing to do with "chads"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:52 PM
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Friendzone just means that someone likes someone as more than friends, when that person only views them as friend. Nobody puts anyone in the friendzone, you go there yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:18 PM
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Oh yes it has. The whole trope of women being the “fairer sex”. I have absolutely never heard that anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:37 PM
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but thankfully the illusion that women are the fairer and more moral sex is rapidly deteriorating. This is not, and was never a thing? What are you yapping about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:25 PM
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what are you even asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:23 PM
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So you mean to say you don't talk to women? This is kind of what i mean with people being more isolated. They just sit online instead of interacting with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:19 PM
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Younger people are also more isolated than ever before. 10% of people reported to not having a single friend. That plays massive part in why young people especially are having harder time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:56 PM
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So what you are saying is that by removing the rights from women, the shut in virgins would be more successfull in finding a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:50 PM
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I said "You don't approach someone by walking up to them and asking their number." Maybe you should practise your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:41 PM
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And now you said it again. You don't just randomly walk up to someone to talk to them in most situations, you talk to people in appropriate situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:04 AM
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It definetly was implied. Because a normal and short conversation is something that very few thinks negatively about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:49 AM
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The foundation of the argument is flawed and untrue, debating on it doesn't get you anywhere. It's like me claiming that humans can flap their arms to fly. The premise is flawed and false so it cannot be debated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:06 AM
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Its 2 sexual partners for men aged 15-19, and 1 for women. Its 4 for men aged 20-24 and 3 for women Its 6 for men aged 25-29 and 4 for women Its 6 for men aged 30-34 and 4 for women Its 7 for men aged 35-39 and 4 for women Its 8 for men aged 40-44 and 4 for women. Link
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:17 PM
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Well, most men are having more sex than most women. Median amount of sexual partners for men aged 45 was 8, while the median for women was 4. So most women are having less sexual partners than most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:09 PM
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You cannot debate on a false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:33 PM
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Have you watched his videos? Almost everything is exaggerated, misrepresented, false or just straight up weird opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:23 PM
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It's not up to me to rebute claims that are straight up unfounded, exaggerated, or false. That's not how stuff works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:18 PM
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"Incel crap". He's not a blackpiller, jesus christ. It's quite obvious he isn't. If you can't even tell the truth about his follower count, why should i believe you when you say you even watched 1 of his videos? Have you watched his videos? One video in his instagram was talking about how its bad when woman have male friends. It's literally the stereotypical incel stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:14 PM
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I don't need to convince people otherwise. Everyone with any kind of social life knows he is speaking shit. The videos are not aimed for well adjusted people, its aimed towards incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:10 PM
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a) Check his comments. A lot of women like and agree with it. I wouldn't really call him a redpiller/blackpiller/incel, he has said repeatedly that he regrets treating women poorly when he finally got better with them, and also give s women advice. I don't know about that, but every single video i watched on his instagram page was some weird incel crap. Alongside with most of his youtube channel. You know it's not very effective to gaslight me when i can just open up the link, right? You link me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:08 PM
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Probably because he has a degree in developmental psychology, has extensively studied evolutionary psychology, and uses his knowledge to dumb down concepts in ways regular people understand. Do you have any real rebuttals other than "name bad"? He does not seem to have his linkedin or real name anywhere in his socials, so this remains unconfirmed. he is not dumbing anything down for anyone, he is making content for incels that confirms their warped beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:06 PM
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a) he's not an incel I don't know if he is personally, but that is his core audience. He is directly making content for incels. b) it's closer to 500k It is 361k c) a lot of women like his shit Where is this information from? From what I can see, its being laughed at by everyone in his instagram comments. Youtube comments are harder to shit trough, as there appears to be way too much bots posting variation of the exact same comments with similar usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:59 PM
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I wouldnt call 300k subscribers "blew up". Vast majority of what he posts is just some weird incel shit. It appeals to some parts young and inexperienced audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:47 PM
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The projection. I made a claim that anyone can get laid. You said they cant. I proved they can, then you moved the goalpost by saying that you cant get constant sex, which i also proved you can. Then you started crying some wierd shit about 8 sexual partners being a small amount. Like the fuck? People in relationships gets laid way more than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:33 PM
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Just because you can, doesnt mean you will. Are you braindead or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:28 PM
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It really isn't "quite a lot" over 20+ years. It is a very high amount, most people aren't looking for constant casual sex and the average lenght of a relationship is about 2-5 years. Yes, I understand the median. You don't seem to understand that your given values don't tell us if a small group of men is sleeping with a lot of women or vice versa. It tells us that 50% of men have had 8 or more sexual partners. And of course it's obvious that there are groups having a lot of sex, simply by going…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:25 PM
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Why is someone called "hoe_math" taken as anything other than a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:13 PM
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Um 8 partners over decades isn't much at all. If you look at how many partners and how often single men have sex you'd see what I mean. It is quite a lot considering that most people don't have that much casual sex. And it's still 2x as much as the median women have sexual partners. And the data could be few men having sex with more women or vice versa there's not enough information from just median partner count. It is the median, it is the middle value. Exactly 50% of people are above median, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:43 PM
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Anyone can get laid once in their lives, sure. Anyone can't get laid in the colloquial sense with any consistency. The median amount of sex partners for men when they turn 45 is 8 The median amount of sex partners for women when they turn 45 is 4 So, its few women who are having sex with a lot of men. It means that whoever women are picking to fuck and commit to are what they consider high value. So everyone is high value? I dont get how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:36 PM
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I assumed it, because it was implied in your comment. Nobody will think negatively of a friendly conversation that was not forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:06 PM
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Except anyone can't get laid. They absolutely can. About 1% of 25-30 year olds are virgins. And among crackhead females I suppose. Women* And does this mean that fuckboys are "high value" to women who seek casual sex while being "low value" to everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:28 PM
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If I said, "men's sexual assaults are underreported" does that imply it's exclusive to men? This is a completely different type of sentence, it's a false equivalent. More accurate comparison would be you saying that "Men are poor fucks" Even though, the average and median net worth for men is higher than for women. 100% is not few. Have you never talked to another human in your life? You speak like terminally online incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:58 PM
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OPs question was about women, not men. Why would I comment on a question about women by talking about men? I was replying to you and your stats. You said women are "Stats show they are, in fact, little squealing fatties.", this carries the assumption that its exclusive to women. If the money reaches a target threshold I'm sure that's true. Very few women are gold diggers. Not all facts make happy brain chemicals when heard. These arent facts. These are just something you would read on r/virgin o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:46 PM
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I was referring how fat women are. Stats show they are, in fact, little squealing fatties. Well, 34% of american men are obese, while 27% of american women are obese. Also, they spread for Chad whenever possible. If they belly up to the buffet, why wouldn't they belly up to all the Chads around them? Who is Chad? And that being said, there's still no reason for a woman to pretend to commit, other than to get that money. Pretending to commit is indeed very transactional. Most women dont do that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:40 PM
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And yes stats show they do belly up to the buffet. What stats? The median amount of sexual partners for women is 4 by the age of 44, while the median amount of sexual partners for men of same age is 8. So if anything, the median man has had twice as many sexual partners by 45 as the median woman? Have you never actually talked to a human before? This sounds like some incel garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:36 PM
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What the fuck are you on about? This looks like a bad troll from 4chan Why they commit is validation? Attention? Money? All are various degrees of 'yes'. In almost every case, it's because they have feelings for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:29 PM
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Why women commit at all, I have no idea. There is literally no reason to commit as a woman, and few do. That's why their imaginary "bar is on the floor" is right around the ISS flightpath. Normal people have these things called feelings. When you like someone, you don't give a shit about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:19 PM
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This just sounds like the isolation of these men is self inflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:14 PM
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But why does the term exist? You don't see sport games being called "boy games"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:58 PM
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These are the typical genres that girls like. So do a lot of guys. So what about them is the special thing that makes them "girl games"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:48 PM
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What makes a game "girl game"? And why is stardew or animal crossing a "girl game"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:41 PM
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It just sounds like insecurity lack of social awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:32 PM
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Is the crackhead in the street corner "high value" when he sleeps with other crackheads? Why is sex some measure of value? Like literally anyone can get laid, it doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:36 PM
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I was 19 2 years ago. I am 22 this year
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:02 PM
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My man, it's goddamn reddit. Hell ask the men here There was a survey some time ago according to which most of the people are are 20 something virgins. I don't think that's a credible source.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:58 PM
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Even with women that are into you you are expected to go most of that. No, you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:53 PM
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You should go on dates with people who actually are interested on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:50 PM
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So talking to a woman they like being with?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:47 PM
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And median income for all husbands according to the survey is 65000. 25: $40k 35: $53k 45: $55k 55: $61k 65: $60k I have no idea where these are from, but the actual numbers for men are 25-34: 56160 35-44: 67756 45-54: 66300 55<: 62712 https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:18 PM
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Call it whatever you want, it still shows a clear pattern that men with more money (or who are projected to make more money in the future) are more likely to get married. That's not what it shows at all. It doesn't really show anything at all. People make more money when they are older, most married people are older so they make more than median. The survey doesnt tell you the income at the point of getting married, it shows the current income of married people If anything, it shows the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:03 PM
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So… majority of dudes getting married are decently above median wage. Now that's a logical fallacy. Majority of dudes in a marriage are decently above median, as majority of married men tend to be older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:33 PM
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But I did say taking a break from romancing for a bit. What do you mean with romancing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:41 PM
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And not everyone wants to have everything that separate. I’m sure even your wife wants you to try things that she likes but that you may not care for. You aren't just supposed to give up on your friends and life when you get into a relationship with someone. Taking interest in your partners passions and joy is a normal part of relationships. But, it doesn't mean you just adopt all her hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:33 PM
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Some people like time to themselves. Everyone does sometimes. But you aren't just supposed to become an hermit for the next 2 weeks. Then if you don’t 100% like what they like sure you’ll do it with them but that does cause a bit of strain on you if you’re tired or stressed. What? We do things we both like doing when doing things together. We both also have hobbies we do independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:26 PM
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So you 100% like everything she likes, No? What? never need some time to yourself, and always willing no matter if you are sad, hurt, depressed, and angry? What do you mean? Like, if I need time for myself i'll just go for a run, or to the gym. Though, if you are angry or depressed, you really should share your feelings with others. Dwelling on them alone is never a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:19 PM
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You do realize relationships are work right? I am married, so yes i do. I don't know about you, but I am always excited to be with and spend time with my wife. Like it's a highlight of the day when I get home and we get to talk about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:13 PM
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I mean a break from constantly trying to romance their partner like they did in the past. You mean to say that you don't enjoy being with and doing things with your partner? If a relationship is work to you, you shouldnt propably be in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:09 PM
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You don't approach someone by walking up to them and asking their number. That's dumb. You approach someone by having a casual conversation, or saying something that fits the situation and you go from there. You dont walk up to someone to talk to them unless you have a reason to do so. Most conversations shouldn't lead to you asking the other person out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:42 PM
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really that low fuck tough world Well, it really depends. 45000 salary in Santa fe (new mexico) gets you a similar standards of living as a 100k salary in San Fransisco
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:37 PM
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Median gross salary is around 45000. The vast majority is not marrying someone with a high salary. Especially when you adjust for cost of living in cities like new yourk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:27 PM
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I agree with that. That’s why I get so confused when I see that scenario posted by women on here so often. Like in college most college guys are dating college girls and most as far as I know aren’t jumping into marriages. So why is that scenario posted on here so often. It's propably that college educated people are overepresented here, and it's not rare at all for people to marry their college partner. As if the vast majority of divorces are women meeting their partner right at the start of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:10 PM
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I’ve never met a woman who was just willing to put me through school so we’d have a better future later on together or a women who will just take care of the home with the hope my passions work out for us both in the end. What you are describing sounds rather weird, students often date other students., not some random unemployed person they found somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:58 PM
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I see, so if they're not different culturally, then can I assume that even European countries like the ones I describe above engage in those same discourse in dating like how I described about North Amerixa? The same discourse exists here as well. You see the exact same complaints in Nordic social media as you see in american ones. Though, being vastly smaller populations, the absolute size of these groups are vastly smaller, so they don't really show up anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:24 PM
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Can you described those differences, I cannot really put them into words or describe them. Its just small customs and stuff like that. I act different when I go meet my Polish in-laws than I do with anyone at home. European countries and NA Culturally mostly. Americans or Canadian people don't feel foreing or different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:10 PM
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about Britain having gone to war with about 75% of the known world. Crazy to think about. That's just most European empires, Though the fighting was more so focused on each other abroad rather than the locals directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:07 PM
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And while people from various countries in Europe are different from NA (and sometimes each other, of course) the problem is that in the context of dating and relationships they aren't that different. I say this as someone partnered with a European and having been to various countries there to observe some of the interpersonal dynamics. I'm going to go as far as to say that Europeans are not that different in any meaningful regard from eachother. Differences are more surface level, but in the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:56 PM
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They aren't mutually exclusive or comparative. Hiding money in case of a divorce is always for a different reason than a prenup is. It's like asking which one is better, "a plane or a train?" without specifying the goal, You can't compare them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:40 AM
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That wording implies you are comparing 2 bad options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:36 AM
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Most men get along with women, gay or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:34 PM
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Taking care of young kids is work as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:25 PM
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A child is a full time thing. The breadwinner gets a break when they are at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:17 PM
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You are on a date to figure out if you are compatible for a relationship or like eachothers company. If you arent enjoying being on a date with someone, yeah you should propably leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:25 AM
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How many people really want to live like that? I dont think those kinds of people are that much it really matters what. The phrase holds true for almost everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:08 AM
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Who is chad? And why you equate being hot with being an emotionless zombie? Like, just because you are attractive doesnt mean you don't feel emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:31 AM
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I was talking about Rome, not medieval times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:43 PM
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Based on just a short read, you have no chance to meet anyone, no matter what you do unless you see a therapist and make an honest effort to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:26 PM
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Bank accounts were widely used even in ancient Rome
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:59 PM
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TikTok shows you more content that you interact with. My TikTok fyp is full of dumb cats
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:39 PM
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You could, and you would be right. Not all women like or want gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:37 PM
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Women definetly do approach men, they just don't approach random men they've never interacted with very often, (outside of a bar). But like yeah, it's perfectly normal to not care about strangers like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:34 PM
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What social needs does bad dates and sex meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:54 PM
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What do sex and dates have to do with loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:02 PM
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Dude, you dont have to repost this constantly. The escort you are trying to date is just playing you both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:30 PM
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Just curious, how did you even find that many people with opinions on american women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:42 PM
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I said multiple European countries You literally said most. it's roughly around 1000 dudes, most said they wouldn't date them because they are too spoiled/entitled or too bossy, some said they would on conditions and others said they would pump and dump but would never take any American women seriously... So you go around asking people on the street that if they would date american women and kept count? Seems a rather weird past time but each to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:39 PM
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How did you get "most" men from a handful you met in Germany?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:30 PM
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American women behave nothing like European women.... I don't think that's true, in the way you are claiming it to be. And Europe also isn't just one large homogeneous area. It's culturally very diverse. European dudes when asked about if they would date an American women and most go no they are too bossy or entitled.... Where have you seen that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:13 PM
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Lol if you are you're just playing yourself and likely seen as a simp or someone hovering.... I am married with a kid, so I don't really know how that would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:59 PM
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I'm talking about American politics... Then say so. You cant just assume that people know your home address.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:57 PM
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Lol trust me no man is friends with a women he don't find attractive unless he's trying to get with one of her friends So, are you trying to tell me that I am not friends with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:53 PM
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Well, I don't know. European Peoples Party is firmly in the Center-Right and it's approach is heavily incorporating elements of classical liberalism. Same is mostly true for Renew Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:50 PM
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Women can't have friendships with men... Yes they can. Its very normal to have friends of both genders. you buy a women a drink and she's gonna expect you to keep em coming Find better friends then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:38 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:34 PM
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Bullshit that's why you all want national healthcare, a base living salary paid by the govt,welfare programs expanded etc... that's bigger govt not minimal I don't know where you live, but that's not liberalism you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:17 PM
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Bullshit lol no women is gonna admit it to a man, but trust me men know when women are trying to take a mile when you give an inch.. Of course it's obvious when someone tries to do that, but I just don't hang out with people who tries to take advantage of me. First it will be shit like hey I forgot my wallet can you get me lunch... And if you say yes then it becomes expected.. I have never had that happen, but if you have a friend like that, just stop being friends with them. And most women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:15 PM
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I don't get why not wanting social programs,smaller govt,lower taxes, and no free shit is a bad thing... This is in the center of liberalism. Minimal goverment intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:08 PM
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His point is this if he asked them to do the same shit they would scoff or say something like I ain't your wife or GF.. What kind of people do y'all hang around? That is not how normal, socially adjusted people interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:06 PM
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It means you accept and trust yourself and have a sense of control in your life. You know your strengths and weakness well, and have a positive view of yourself. You set realistic expectations and goals, communicate assertively, and can handle criticism. https://www.usf.edu/student-affairs/counseling-center/top-concerns/what-is-self-confidence.aspx
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:57 PM
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It's absolutely not most. Try to get a woman to go to your party but tell her she has to bring her own booze and her own weed. Never have I needed to tell clarify that to anyone. It's just always been expected that everyone brings their own stuff to parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:43 PM
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Who gives you advice that you should become friends with someone you are interested in first? Like, that was what people said in middle school. Like, if you are into them from the start, obviously you dont go around becoming friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:34 PM
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Women use men for resources. Stop hanging around those kind of people then. Majority of people wont do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:25 PM
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This is all women i ever met my entire life. Hell at my job now there are women in cool with. So they weren't your friends at all. Why did you bring them up when the conversation was about friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:21 PM
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Were they yor friends, or some people you kinda knew? This doesn't sound like the level of communication I'd expect between friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:02 PM
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You know person A, B and C. Girlfriend would likely never know that A, B and C. Now she know you that know A, B and C. Now she know A, B and C. You never explained what "access" mean in this context. What you described was acquaintance Well women don't really care about men so figures. What do you mean with this, and how does it relate to your partner not wanting to be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:51 PM
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you're going to give her access to your friends What does this even mean? How do you give someone "access" to your friends? And what does "access" to another person actually even mean? But either way, if she actually cares about you, she aint leaving you for your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:07 PM
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Why call it rape then? Because fraud is not rape. Alimony is very rare, and nobody is not just "taking" it. And someone marrying you just to take your assets is just fraud. But you not singing a prenup is just stupid if you have any significant assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:03 AM
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What is "divorce r*aped"? Why is the timing of the rape relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:11 AM
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Those are all true statements, but it assumes that you are social, go out and meet new people regularly, and actually want a relationship with someone you like. If you sit alone in your room browsing internet all day, that wont really mean much. You won't be likely to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:12 PM
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This is another way of saying “women’s attraction is a noble and pure meritocracy based on some beautiful serendipity” That's how it works for most normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:22 AM
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She tries to leverage her beauty and youth to find the best partner she can, and have fun in the process. What the fuck kind of people are you talking to? What is the "best partner she can"? Like, you are only getting into relationships with people you get attracted to, the best partner would be the one she is attracted to. If you are attracted to someone, you dont give a shit about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:14 PM
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You thinking this way is the reason you think that women have high standards. You assuming that people mean physical attraction when they talk about attraction leads to harmful misunderstandings. You assume that they would be attracted in someone because they are physically attractive, or wouldn't be attracted to you because you look normal, when its in fact not the case and there is much more to attraction. Attraction is a feeling, it is not just visual, in fact, its mostly not visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:09 PM
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at no point did it say anything about casual hookups. But the way you talk about people implies that you don't care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:06 PM
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Attraction is an emotion. Physical attraction is a small part of that. Physical attraction doesn't really feel like much. And if you get actually attracted to them without even talking to them, you are just attracted to the mental image of them you have created, not the actual person. And when you get to know that person, and they dont match your mental image, you often lose attraction to them, because you never were attracted to them, just the thought of them. If you only find someone physicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:01 PM
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Thats definitely not true, most men are definitely attracted to most women. Are you attracted to most women, or do you just think they look good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:55 PM
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The topic was relationships and not casual hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:52 PM
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Most people are not attracted to most people. Dating is all about finding the person you want to be with. You not being attracted to someone doesn't mean you find them unattractive. It just means that you are not attracted to them. Hell, you can even find someone attractive without being attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:41 PM
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¨What part of social media do you even hang out in? I have never seen anything like that, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:05 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:43 PM
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The first part of your post you list your views on relationships, the part I quoted explains explains them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:40 PM
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What problems? It's just that women aren't pushes into unhappy relationships by society and family pressure as much as they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:37 PM
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This is due to the fact they know there's always a safety-net if it goes south and for most women, it's usually backup guy nr2 while for most men no one, that's why they love lumping on this idealism If you date someone who has a "backup guy", then yeah, she clearly doesn't care about you that much or respect your relationship so her lack of interest in the relationship is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:19 PM
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They often brought middle eastern men as a blueprint of how men should spoil women . What? Do enlighten me on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:03 PM
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What kind of sites do you even go to? Because the sites and apps that make up 99% of market share definedly do not have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:53 PM
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Okay, yeah, this is pointless. I'm talking with someone who thinks literally in a group activity, everyone is 100% equal capacity and no one is better than the other. That no one in the group causes the group to do better when they are around rather than someone else. Yes, because that isn't how things worked. Everyone took care of their part to make sure the group functioned. There was no competition and situational leadership was like I described with modern hunting, someone had particular inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:23 PM
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I'm giving exampels... Okay, highear status is a guy who guys out and reliably brings back food for everyone. He gains status because the tribe likes him becuase he's able to achieve and bring benefit, so he gets the praise and attention. Again, you don't bring food back alone. Hunting is a communal activity. The same as modern day hunting is. Anything shot in the forest is not my, it's the groups game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:12 PM
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Status still exists. I don't think you understand what status even is. I'm not saying they are the "king", but the highest status. The person who is higher on the hierarchy. People in your example, pick and choose who to lead in whatever situations, based on who has the highest status. Status, which is often earned. The guy with the most kills, has the highest status, so they'd pick him to lead... But if people didn't trust him, his status would lower no matter how many kills in battle, so they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:50 PM
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An enviroment that first and foremost attracts a certain sort of audience. Back then, it was widely known fact that dating apps are pretty much a young people thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:38 PM
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This is based on the same okcupid data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:25 PM
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Yes they did. They absolutely did... Just not at the same scale. But all tribes had status. It's inherent to being a social creature, we create hierarchies, and the higher on the hierarchy is a reflection of your competency and leads to more security and resources. Human tribes were largely equal, and leadership was based on consensus rather than any formal hierarchies and were more like situational technocracies. Nobody was the "boss" of a typical human tribe. But status has ALWAYS been a thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:24 PM
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The data is overwhemling. Men find, no matter their own age, women to be the hottest at 21-22... Women find men's attraction to shift with their own age. Men do not. It anchors around 21. But just because men aren't going around trying to fuck and marry young chicks in their 40s, doesn't mean they aren't hot. They just aren't trying to be with immature people. But the media understands this, hence why women in media are all young, where men have a broader age range. It's because what is consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:10 PM
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They do. I'm sorry. Not consciously of course... But biology always wins. These biological triggers around status, looks, and resources, are deep into our successful natural selection instincts. Very few people are aware of them, because most people aren't very self aware in general. Resources and status are irrelevant in terms of biology. Those did not exist in the sense when we lived in nomadic tribes and everything was shared. Looks only biologically matter to determine if you are healthy. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:07 PM
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People don't consciously... But subconsciously it does. Attraction and mate preference is very complex and primal. You say it is primal, but you claim that resources matter. Do tell me which it is. For instance, when a guy is sexually attracted to a young woman, he's not thinking, "Oh wow, she is fertile and can birth children. She has lesser competition making it easier for me to mate!" But, instinctively, that's what's going on, while our conscious rationalizes it more subtly. Same way when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:35 PM
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inherently disrupts this whole system on many levels. From male sense of identity, to perceived value she thinks she can attain. People don't think like this. You don't date or marry someone because your "perceive their value". Most people don't date someone because they think that that person is better than them, or the same value as them. They date them because they like them and want to be with them. Very little is rational or decided on when it comes to attraction And once she surpasses him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:25 PM
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And statistically a very powerful variable that correlates with ice cream sales is deaths by drowning. You buying ice cream does not mean you are more likely to die by drowning however. This is why it's important to understand that correlation does not mean causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:55 AM
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went broke. That it did not do. No Time To Die (2021) was adjusted for inflation, the third best performing bond movie in the box office after skyfall (2012) and spectre (2015)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:09 AM
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Decline in what way? No Time To Die was one of the best performing 007 movies in the box office. And it was the 4th highest grossing movie in the entire year of 2021.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:02 AM
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If humans are extremely loss averse, then why isn’t it more common for someone to want someone who is no longer interested in them? It depends, but normal humans aren't "extremely loss averse". If you are still emotionally invested in the person, it's quite common during breakups for example. But we often know better can choose not to do anything about it. There even is 2 stages for this in the 5 stages of grief, denial and bargaining. If you aren't too emotionally invested in someone, not havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:44 AM
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In U.S. law, coercion refers to the act of compelling someone to act in an involuntary manner by using force, threats, manipulation, or intimidation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:46 PM
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And warfare is probably older than farming. It really isn't. For a group of no more than 100 without any permanent settlement or resources to protect, it really does not make sense to start large scale fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:38 PM
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So, do you mean sexual coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:34 PM
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That estimate sounds like it was surveyed from an incel/redpill subreddit. Like, people dont think that way. Nobody assings "value" to others and most people think that cheaters are asshats
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:23 PM
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Yes it did, and you’d be a fool to believe otherwise. nearly evolutionary pressure was gone by the time we were farming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:21 PM
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Hunting was a communal activity back when there was evolutionary pressure on humans. It wasn't exclusive to men. Warfare didnt really affect out evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:13 PM
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For most of human history, men were constantly involved in dangerous undertakings. Each man in the group had to know his role, and any weak link could fatally compromise the group and get people killed. What are you referring to specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:12 PM
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It happens very rarely when you don't hang out with assholes. Though, it could be that you are misreading the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:03 AM
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Stop hanging out with assholes. Normal people don't go around "sensing that you are weak"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:00 AM
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I agree, but this just boils down to feelings. It's indeed about feelings. Someone who does not understand social situations is threatening at worst, annoying at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:23 PM
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There is effort that goes into it. It's I tuitive, but it's still communication, and anyone who knows anything about communication knows that having good reliable and clear communication requires effort. It's effortless and intuitive the same way walking is. We evolved to walk, but it still requires learning. If it was as easy, instinctive, and evolutionary driven as you say, then even poorly socialized kids would do it without issue. The fact poorly socialized kids have problems with it, is pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:54 PM
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It really feels like you're saying "all these signs are blindingly obvious to me, he must be an idiot for failing to understand" while making no effort at all to try to undersrand how or why he could be misunderstanding. There isn't effort that goes into it. It is intuitive. It's a deeper problem than just being an "idiot" for not understanding it. It is often a sign developemental disorder, or extremely poor socialization as a kid. If you struggle this hard with non-verbal communication, I sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:32 PM
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Yeah no you're describing empathy, not non verbal communication, and empathy frequently fails. How many people say "I had no idea they were thinking of suicide" after someone took their own life? No, I am talking about non-verbal communication. If someone is avoiding eye contact, looking around while talking to you, and having closed off demeanor, they do not want to talk to you, regardless of where you are, this holds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:15 PM
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Non verbal communication is something that came with evolution. Its largely universal for humans, no matter the culture or location. You can tell how someone is feeling regardless of who they are and where they are from, because huge majority of that non-verbal communication is instinctual and automatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:03 PM
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Most men don't suck at non-verbal communication. If you consistently find it difficult to understand non-verbal communication, it might be worth it to get evaluated for autism spectrum disorder. As inability to understand non-verbal communication is one of the three main characteristic of ASD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:12 AM
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Well, you can take a look at USA and Canada. Native Americans make up 3% of the population, the rest have an immigrant background.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:05 AM
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Again, you are merely explaining proximity. That is how attraction very often works. You are more likely going get attracted to someone you have regular interactions with. But when you open the world up to a moderately attractive woman she will date up. You describe dating like it's medieval royalty marriages. But no, "dating up" is not a normal thing people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:26 PM
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it will be a rare sight to see any woman dating a bum. It's not rare at all. You just have to find someone who is unemployed to see that their partner is very likely also unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:47 PM
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Broke people mostly date broke people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:38 PM
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So that doesn't disprove anything I said. The man still has to make more money than her. No he does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:36 PM
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Most people date people from their own socioeconomic class who share interests and hobbies with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:08 PM
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In situations like that, yes you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:31 PM
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I’ll never understand why attraction to wealth is seen as somehow separate and different from any other kind of attraction. Because there is no attraction. It's purely utilitarian and transaction view. You don't care about the person, you just want the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:46 PM
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Of course it's building steam when the percentage of people without any friends is skyrocketing and people are more isolated than ever. Like record number of people don't talk to others anymore, they just hang out online. And I have no idea what MRA is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:16 PM
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I keep on hearing that women are attracted to men with money Those kind of women are not attracted to him, they are attracted to his money. Gold diggers only really want that money, they don't care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:12 PM
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What does this have to do with anything? Your choice to not date women under 180lbs really does not contribute to the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:09 PM
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Men everywhere? Where exactly outside of reddit and 4chan? redpill is most definetly an obscure group, mostly containing chronically online young men,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:52 PM
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Who is Chad and why incels have so many weird fantasies about him? But like no, that is not the case,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:30 AM
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It most definedly is. Both describe the time before officially dating. Situationship is basically just a natural stage of some relationshipsm you both like each other, you both want to be with eachother, but you aren't officially dating yet, you are in a situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:19 PM
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China is further along in terms of it's economic developement, India's birth rate is already below replacement level. India will face the same one day. Most nations will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:13 PM
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Yeah, that's the essence of it. We can fix climate change or we can let nature fix it but pay for it in massive damages to humanity. Same with demographic crisis, we can wait for nature to fix it, but society will incure damage as a result, or we can do something to try to change it. In either scenario, enviroment will be fine in the end, it's all about how much damage humanity is willing to take in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:53 PM
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Enviroment exists only because it is adaptable. Nearly everything has been wiped out by asteroids multiple times. Traits that are beneficial in a new enviroment survive, and traits that less so, will be outcompeted. All the carbon that is causing the climate change was once part of the ecosystem. But then it was locked away in oil and coal deposits in bedrock, and the enviroment adapted to function without it. Now it's being reintroduced to the econsystem so quickly, that the system that adapted…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:43 PM
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Showered in four days. Lmao. Glorious. Women actually say that with a straight face. I am not a woman. But yeah, thats essentially it. If you take care of yourself, you dont appear as a creep beacuse of your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:33 PM
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What do I think? I think people have been freaking out about this for 35 years and….nothing has happened It's kind of like climate change. Both take decades to manifest into any serious issues. Though, a demographic crisis will likely will start correcting itself within the next 100 years, even if trough sheer natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:31 PM
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Isn't that like saying most serious car accidents happen at high speeds? I don't know why it would be. Most common car accident is one that happens in urban areas at the speeds of 20-35km/h
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:12 PM
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No, that’s always the case. If the guy were ugly, she wouldn’t even look at him, much less tolerate “asshole” behavior. You don't sound like you did a lot of partying in your teens and 20's, because that does indeed happen a lot. What is "asshole" behaviour in normal situation, is socially acceptable atleast to some group in certain circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:08 PM
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I cannot tell if you are being satirical here. But in case you aren't, height has nothing to do with it, and your looks only to an extent. If you look like you haven't showered in 4 days and aren't groomed, your looks will probably make people wary of you. Other than that, it really doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:05 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:00 PM
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That is very rarely the case and really only happens in bars or similar enviroments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:00 PM
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Funny how those magic personality detectors that can smell misogyny, creepiness, and various icks from a mile away All that is often the result of poor social skills. If you are socially aware and have decent social skills, chances are nobody will ever think of you as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:57 PM
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Just hanging around don't get you anywhere pretty much regardless of who you are. That's is where the issue is. The people who get there are often very aware of what they want and how to get there. They can read people very well and they can say what the other person wants to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:55 PM
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It’s always because of their trauma or their broken home or their unspecified mental illness. Yeah, that's mostly it. Of course there is also the possibility that the woman is also an asshole, or that she was deceived. These things also mysteriously never compel them to sleep with ugly, short, fat, or broke men. I very rarely see ugly or fat men anywhere where those kind of situations might happen. So that propably largely explains that Short and broke men can also be abusive assholes, so not su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:48 PM
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The "situationship" is not a new thing. It's just kind of the talking stage of a relationship that just kind of happens and where both are not quite sure about how to take things forward. It has existed always, it were just called differently before. But yeah, there is very few who are left out. And even fewer who are trying and left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:42 PM
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But why would he argue that? That's not even the point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:16 PM
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Well, casual sex left me feeling down and empty. Didn't try it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:52 PM
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They are very much comparable. The word "altruism" has a defined and widely accepted meaning in the English language and a defined opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:42 PM
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I mean nothing by altruism, because altruism as it is defined colloquially, has no evidence of its existence. Nobody was arguing that. Words describe things or concepts. Something doesn't have to exist to be described. What you are asking is basically to prove that an amputee means that someone has had a limb amputated. Like that is what the word means. Or prove that a unicorn is a horse-like animal with a horn. Like yeah, unicorns does not exist. But the word means that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:29 PM
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For the 5th time now, can you prove that altruism is intrinsically self-contingent? This time, preferably, without using the fucking definition of the word as evidence lmao Can you first tell me what do you mean with altruism then? Because it seems to greatly differ from how the word is used in English.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:59 PM
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Right, and the usage has no bearing on the ontological truth of the word. It is not proof of anything. It just means that if you use the word in some other way, it's your responsibility to make sure people understand what you mean with the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:54 PM
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No, it's not, the dictionary isn't an objective book of truth. What do you mean? This is like saying that a law isn't an objective truth about that law. Dictionary definition is what that word means in English. If you use it in some other way that is not clear from the context, you have to explain what you mean with the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:48 PM
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Guess I'll just have to reiterate, prove that the definition is correct. What the fuck do you mean? If the dictionary definiton isnt good enough, then here is an Stanford paper on the word. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/altruism/#WhatAltr
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:43 PM
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This is a repeat of argument A, in order for this to be true, altruism would have to be self-contingent, can you prove that altruism is self-contingent? The definition of altruism is "disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others." So by definition, it is self-contingent. If I do deeds that appear altruistic for personal gain, I don't have selfless concern for others, I have concern for myself. Nice acts are also not necessarily altruistic. I can hold a door open for someone co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:34 PM
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Why not? Because that's just how it is. The nature of the action shifts entirely and the act itself is done with selfish motives. You do the act for personal gain so it's self serving and transactional. I don't go to work because I am nice to my co-workers and boss. I go to work to get paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:28 PM
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Why is this the only acceptable motivation for nice acts? Nice acts aren't nice acts when you expect something in return for the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:18 PM
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Ultimately it doesn’t matter how much you have over a woman, she will probably still reject you or not reciprocate Yeah? Why would someone like you or want to be with you just because you have more than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:07 PM
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Why would it be different? If you don't feel affection towards your partner, you obviously cannot really show affection. Affection isn't something you give someone, it's something you feel. You can only show your affection trough actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:06 PM
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Dating is the part of the relationship where you go on dates and try to figure out if you want a relationship with eachother. you dont need to seperately agree on if you are dating or not if you go on dates.,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:05 AM
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I am a Chad I'm pretty certain since I accidentally land in bed with women sometimes. Its a historical cycle though provable and repeatable. I find it hard to believe that any "chads" would be using incel terms and crying about hypergamy. However if many Chads die now women find whoever is at the new "top" attractive. Why would that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:06 PM
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Smoking is an absolute no. No matter how much interest there is, if I see someone smoking, any and all interest are instantly gone and I feel nothing towards them anymore. (And obviously drugs) I can't think off any other clear turn offs from someone I went on a date with. Interest however just kind of depended on if we vibe. If the conversation didn't feel right, it didn't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:05 AM
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Oh so it was some incel revenge fantasy? Dating is not a competition. If so called "chads" die, you are not going to have any more success in dating as you are now. Women don't suddenly start dating men they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:43 AM
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Originally, it's same reason the term "mankind" exist but not the term "womankind". The word "man" in both instances originates from old English where it broadly denoted humans or people in general. Then it was shaped by the culture of 20th ceuntry where men were breadwinners of the house and women weren't allowed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:05 AM
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That's a lot of trouble you went trough just for misunderstanding what people mean when they talk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:01 PM
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If they like you, no you wont get rejected. Why are you asking her out if she isn't interested in you to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:06 PM
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What kind of data or studies do you even need here? Like this is common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:03 PM
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When you think that life is a competition, someone is going to lose and it's likely going to be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:28 PM
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How do you scientifically test that? Like that is physically impossible to study in a way that it would make any kind of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:01 PM
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When you get shot down 20 times, you really have to start thinking about how you are misreading people so badly. Misreading signs of interest 20 times is a high number. I don't think I have even asked out 20 different people in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:51 PM
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Getting to know people abit is not the same as becoming friends with them. Like, if you see each other regularly, you just talk for a week or two and see how they react to your flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:40 PM
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36% of Men, 18% of Women Actually Know When They’re Being Flirted With, You cannot make an affirmative claim with a study like this. Flirting is heavily context dependent, and is really quite hard to spot if you only have talked to someone for 10 minutes in an enviroment like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:58 PM
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What are you on about? This looks like a copypasta from 4chan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:36 PM
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OP is a man. What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:39 AM
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Like who tf brags about sex outside like early highschool? Like even the meth head sleeping next to the dumpster has sex, it ain't anything bragworthy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:25 AM
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Well, your oringinal comment can really only mean that you just met someone and didn't talk to them before asking them out. Otherwise why would you be trying to ask someone out who isn't giving you any sings of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:52 PM
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and about my standards (not physical) Struggles with dating kind of makes it sound like you struggle with getting dates, not struggling to find the right partner for you. Struggles with dating depends on my genetics AND WTF YOU MEAN WITH YOU STRUGGLE WITH GENETICS? My man, you look like a goddamn Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:01 PM
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First, I assumed that first you ask out someone you know. You referred to them as simply classmates. It doesn't sound like you know them very well. Or do you think guys pick up women in clubs and bars after getting to know them? You don't "pick up" people out at random in clubs. Your actions that lead to that are very deliberate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:57 AM
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When you say you struggle with dating they say "you are a mysoginist" If your real life friends say that to you, maybe it's time to look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:48 AM
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The problem with dating for men is that no one is interested in you. Seriously. Imagine you’re a guy in a uni. You like several classmates. You ask them out, they say no. You approach women in clubs and bars, they say no. You use tinder, and get 1 match a month that doesn’t respond. Get to know people abit before you ask them out. if you don't give someone a chance to be interested in you, nobody is interested on you. Asking someone out at random that you don't interact with is just almost a gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:35 AM
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But thats another problem. These places have been deckining in recent years. Most people outside are onntheir way and go to school/work/home or have an appointment. Social gatherings in general have declined. Obviously you don't run up to some random on a street. You go to a third place where people hang out in. but metoo movement and everyone being a victim made that sexual harrasment if you talk to someone, This might seem true to someone who is chronically online, but it isn't actually the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:49 AM
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You go out on the street and socialise how? Well, here people treat the street as an extended living room of sorts. You go to a cafe or a pub to just chat with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:26 AM
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I don't know, here you go out on a street and there is literally hundreds of people. Hypergamy is just bullshit in the modern context, so that is not a reason for anyones dating struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:39 AM
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It's not harder, it's just that people are isolating a lot more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:22 AM
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I think it's just the result of the same thing. People are more online and isolated than ever. Number of adults without a single friend has gone up by 400% in the last 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:23 AM
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Boss is someone who has authority over others, boss relies on subordinates and people following their orders. A boss tells you what to do. Leader is someone who inspires others and fosters a sense of shared purpose. Leader does not seek to inspire obedience or submission, but rather trust and respect. Everyone can be a leader, while everyone cannot be a boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:35 AM
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What you defined is a boss. Why would anyone want their partner to be their boss?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:53 PM
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How did you get that conclusion? Looking at your comments and posts, it really sounds like you are just trying your absolute hardest to find any reason or excuse to hate on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:59 PM
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Not a single line is condescending in that song.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:58 PM
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How the fuck you get that interperation? The whole song is about healing from a breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:54 PM
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How did you get that interperation? Those acts symbolizes acts of self-love and compassion towards oneself. It's all about taking control of your own happiness and joy rather than relying on a partner to do so. It isn't shitting on anything. It conveys the message that the acts of self-love are not less important or less meaningful than the ones you get from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:52 PM
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Do you mean the song "flowers"? What exactly is the issue you are having?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:43 PM
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20% men are bagging 80% of the chicks. They infact, are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:31 PM
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I don’t think the person who’s underage should be punished but the person suppling the alcohol, the fraternity ect. I don't really have any context for this. Because here, you can legally drink beer and mild wines when you are 16, so it just sounds kind of dumb that legal adults are unable to drink alcohol. but it’s not your fault ultimately if it does happen. Yes, it's not your fault, the person at fault is fully responsible for everything. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:59 PM
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Why do colleges turn a blind eye to underage drinking but then clamp down hard on any person reported to have sexually assaulted someone in these context without any further investigation? Are you really asking this? What could be the difference between a victimless crime that is usually a misdemeanor with the largest punishment being a fine, and a serious felony with serious prison time?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:55 PM
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But that is not what is going on at a population level, so what are you trying to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:51 PM
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Reported cases are the only cases that statistically exist and that you can measure. If a case is not reported, it does not exist in the statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:47 PM
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You really did not, if that is the conclusion you came to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:16 PM
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I'd say that less than 10% of cases is a pretty tiny minority. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:12 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/std/statistics/2022/default.htm Chlamydia appears to be the only STD where it's more common amongst women, and that's on a signficiant downward trend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:06 PM
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And there are more men who are infected in total than there are women who are infected, so what does that say about the situation? With absolutely tiny minorities of both being white americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:55 PM
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STDs among men are also in rise, but the blog post just looks at two specific STD's
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:40 PM
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Ever think about the women rewarding this behavior instead of blaming the men? What? What is one of the most common fantasies among women? I know you are referring to that one study that was here some weeks ago. What does aversive thoughts caused by trauma or fear have anything to do with the conversation at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:16 PM
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I know you tried to sound "cool", but this comment kind of makes you sound like a rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:00 PM
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When there is mutual attraction, sure. But just because I think someone is attractive, doesn't mean I am attracted to them, or want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:01 PM
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I think you are misunderstanding my point. If you intent to exploit desperate people, then its exploitative, if you go there in good faith, then its not exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:50 PM
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For instance: if I search for women in the philippines, they are more likely to be poorer EVEN if that is not my intention to find a poor woman. Why would you specifically "search" women from a certain nation? If you don't live there, why would you specifically "search" for women there instead of your local area? If you travel to Philippines in hopes of finding a woman, then its pretty hard to frame it in a way that isnt exploitative. ​ Same with women dating online looking for men. They will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:30 PM
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If you go on there willingly, knowing it's a sausage fest, that's exploitative. What's the difference between this my scenario: If you go there with the goal of exploiting the desperate people, then its exploitative. Otherwise you are just trying to find a diamond in a pile of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:26 PM
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So men are only allowed to go to a rich nation to look for women? lmao. What if a woman is upper class within her poor nation? How do you determine what's ok just based on a nation's GDP? Ignorant take. That is not what i said. I said, if you go to poor nations to find women, because they are more likely tolerate abuse and your shitty personality, then it's exploitative. ​ How do you know a man you're dating isn't desperate because he's been out a relationship for years and gets no attention? Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:22 PM
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What kinds of people even talk about body count past the age of 15? Like yeah, everyone you meet has had sex, most have a partner. Nobody is talking about how many sexual partners they have had because that is weird thing to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:10 PM
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Passport bros are shamed because they purposefully go to poorer countries to find partners that will tolerate abuse and general shittynes in hopes of a better life. Passport bros aren't shamed for simply dating a foreinger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:07 PM
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That means you care on some level. About the reasons why it was said. Nobody you want to be around does that. It indicates some deeper character flaws or mental turbulance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:02 PM
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Why would anyone tell me their body count? That's a red flag in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:50 PM
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Dating overseas in itself is not bad. It's why you do it that matters, If you are just travelling and happen to meet someone you vibe with, nobody can say anything about that. That's not exploitative. ​ If you go to a poor nation to find a partner because they are more likely tolerate abuse and your bullshit in the hopes of a better life, then its exploitative. The same as if you go to a dating app to exploit desperate men you aren't interested in for free food and whatnot, then its explotative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:45 PM
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Everybody cares about bodycount on some level. That's why when taken to extreme bodycounts, you eliminate MOST people (male or female) What does this mean? Extreme bodycounts are a rare thing, you propably don't even hang around in the same circles if you have an average body count. ​ Similarly virgin men are shamed. Nobody is shaming the heavily religious guy who doesn't want to have sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:36 PM
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But what power does that bring you? It makes the chances of you finding a good partner more likely, but like, you aren't going to entertain someone who you aren't interested in regardless of the gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:34 PM
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Most normal people don't care about body counts. If someone is asking, they are likely very religious or insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:21 PM
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How would that be expoitative? Where exactly is the power dynamic? Like you are just trying to meet someone who you vibe with and want to be together with. Nobody has any power or leverage over anyone. ​ ​ Due to decreased supply of women and increased demand, women generally get a more ideal man than they would be able to get from other means. Never have seen this happen once. The only relationships I have witnessed that started from an app lasted for like 3 months or so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:18 PM
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I have seen couples that were friends before. But that is another topic all together, so how about we just stick to the oringinal topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:01 PM
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“Men on average are taller than women” This is not what was said what you said would be closer to "I heard someone say that their friend is a 6'5 volleyball player but that cant be true because i saw someone who was shorter than that"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:57 PM
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So, are all adult virgins socially incompetent creeps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:50 PM
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Everyone should change their standards: If you're unhappy being lonely. If you're fine being lonely, and not complaining about it, then its fine. Keep high standards. A bad partner can make you feel even more lonely. Just having a partner doesn't fix your loneliness, so you shouldn't aim for a relationship that doesn't make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:38 PM
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You can't watch what someone does and then critisize them for what someone else said. People are individuals, people have different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:35 PM
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If you are going to make this post, atleast try to find actually good example That post where OP was complaining about the "go bag" might just be the exact situation where a bag like that would be nececcary. His comments very just explosive and had some interesting comments about domestic abuse. I dont think it was "just in case" bag for OPs wife
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:48 PM
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But it’s also true that if an attractive girl offered sex to her single male friends most of them would go for it. So it’s never truly platonic. That's not what I have witnessed or experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:40 PM
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They can but its usually when one or both are unattractive/old. That or theyve done it and gotten it over with. Most of the time its none of those. Its not some rare thing to be just friends with the other gender, most people have friends that are the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:46 PM
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All Virgins are incels, gotcha No, but the vast majority of the ones in that sub are, Its mostly just whining about being too ugly, short and whatnot for dating. ​ Because they're everywhere to varying percentages. Everyone knows an asshole. If you don't know any assholes well, maybe you're the asshole they know I don't hang around with assholes. Nobody likes assholes. They have their own small group and dont get along with others
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:02 PM
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Lmao incel subreddits? You mean only this subreddit? I don't really venture to others. Well, you comment quite regularly on r/virgin. Your comment history is public ​ And no, clubs not either. Other places I meant like workplaces I've been in, university, friend groups, you know, the average stuff. Well, how can you meet so many douchebags then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:36 PM
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Those are the favoured men by women wherever I go. Are the only places you go to clubs and incel subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:32 PM
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To a normal person, red pill is just mostly insane people and blue pill is just a satire of that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:25 PM
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According to who? "Red pillers"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:21 PM
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Blue pill is just a satire of red pill. The blue pill sub was created to make fun of the extreme and insane views in the red pill sub. It isn't really anything, there is no "philosophy"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:36 PM
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What makes him a douchebag?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:26 PM
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If you’re interested in how attraction works for the majority of women, you can easily find hundreds of threats on that topic here on Reddit. You can also ask women in real life and most will agree. Well I am married so that wont be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:23 PM
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.my jobs very boring so most of the time I’m just people watching. Sometimes I lock eye contact with a woman a thousand feet away and we’ll have eye contact the whole time and when she finally walks by I usually give a nod and I’ll get a smile back. This isn't actually anything at all so not sure why you put it here. ​ But even when your on a date and you both a looking strongly into each others eyes and the tension literally makes you hard and you know as soon as the check comes and you guys le…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:22 PM
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Why would anyone be instantly attracted to a stranger you never talked to? Most people don't just feel attraction when they see someone. The outcome doesn't matter at that point, there is no feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:17 PM
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And you want me to explain what fuck eyes are No. I want you to explain what you think they are, because based on the comment threat that doesn't seem to match the actual meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:12 PM
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There is nothing to debate. I was just trying to understand your thought process
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:03 PM
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But your oringinal comment is weird. ​ "even when they give you the fuck eyes" ​ Even when they give you the fuck eyes and a smile they keep walking away. Do they want me to run them down like a creep Like no, they don't care about you, they just smiled back at you because that's what people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:00 PM
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You propably shouldn't consider it "fuck eyes". Its quite normal for people to make eye contact and smile at each other without it meaning anything. I do it without noticing when I have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:58 PM
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what are you on about? Eye contact is an everyday occurance for people. You never explained how normal eye contact differs from "fuck eyes"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:50 PM
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So what exactly makes it a "fuck eyes", instead of them just noticing you staring, them noticing something about you that caught their attention, them just zoning out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:47 PM
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10 percent of the time they give it back and I kind of just wait for them to turn around for the look back as they’re walking for me to to actually say something A smile from a random stranger passing by doesn't actually mean anything. Most people will smile back at you when you smile at them. And what are the "fuck eyes" you are referring to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:44 PM
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and if I didn’t have the confidence from being attractive to approach her Who talks like this? This sounds like someone who is trying to sound impressive while having no idea what is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:04 PM
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Possessive, insecure and controlling are not the traits of someone who is "high value"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:26 PM
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A man who is possessive, insecure and controlling is not a "HMV". He is what is called a toxic asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:23 PM
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Most men find most women worthy of romantic attention, horny at the time or not. I don't know a single man who find most women romantically compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:19 AM
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That's just the usual self defeatist crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:17 AM
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But the fact that you don't know when to not talk about your fetishes is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:00 AM
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Autism isnt that common that people should feel the need to make a conscious effort to cater to them in their day to day communication Most people understand normal human communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:58 AM
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Being an asshole definedly does not increase social status if you are not in high school. Everyone will just think that you are a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:42 AM
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Well, 1% of OF creators make around 50% of all the money earned on the platform. And you are in top 10% if you make more than 1000 a month while 50% earn less than 180 a month. It really only works for very few. It's all about marketing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:36 AM
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Calm down with the incel crap mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:33 AM
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It has nothing to do with morality. Fetishes are amoral. It's only how, why, when and where you decide to talk about them that it becomes a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:27 AM
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It depends. The definition for a fetish in DSM-5 is " an intense sexual attraction to either inanimate objects or to body parts not traditionally viewed as sexual "
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:00 PM
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Fetish isn't limited to describing inanimate objects
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:31 PM
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The way it is preceived depends on how, when and why you word your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:14 PM
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So you interact on a week to week basis, but you have not tried to flirt or escalate it into anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:08 PM
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This is exactly what I just said. Tinder is just bunch of men trying to have sex with someone. Propably partially explains why the gender ratio is so skewed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:55 AM
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Tinder are tinder. It's just a bunch of men swiping right on everyone without even looking to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:53 AM
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Are you just trolling? Read what you commented again and come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:38 AM
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But that doesn't work. Bad sex is worse than just masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:27 AM
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It was meant as a direct reply to your comment. Your comment was of absolutely no relevance to the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:26 AM
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You can manage your sex drive just fine with your right hand, so this comparison doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:20 AM
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If you don't like the person you are with, don't date them. You don't like someone if you want someone else. Doesn't matter if you cannot be with the one you wanted. it's unfair for your partner to stay with them if you dont want to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:04 PM
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If you don't want to be with you partner, and want someone else, yes it is wrong. Break up and don't be with them. They deserve a better partner
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:36 AM
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Then why would you be complaining about being labeled a creep? Anyone with with any kind of social awareness can avoid those kind of situations
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:08 AM
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This is not a relationship, this is exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:56 PM
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They would have no place to stay, no money, and no way of communicating, assuming you are bilingual. This is also called human trafficking. It carries a minimum of 10 year prison sentence in the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:35 PM
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Wdym "only way"? And who are the "lot of us", because this is some deragend psychopatic way of thinking. I'd hope there isn't "lots of" abusive assholes out there. And why do you want to be with someone who hates you and doesnt want to be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:56 PM
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So you are fantasizing about getting a partner you can manipulate and abuse into staying with you because you are incapable of finding normal relationships? You sound like delightful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:49 PM
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What would internet fame have to do with anything? And if they just want to have "sex with 10's", why are they in a relationship with you? Most people dont get into relationships they dont want to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:40 PM
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Are you saying that majority of women are just gold diggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:34 PM
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Average american is overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:24 AM
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This is some middle school level stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:29 AM
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What is your point exactly? What are you even trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:36 PM
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This conversation was about shaming people on their insecurities. Did you not read that? Sure, the dude is a misogynistic ass, but he doesn't appear to be insecure about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:27 PM
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What does that has to do with shaming someone on their insecurities?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:15 PM
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People don't just lose interest over something trivial if they truly liked you. The "ick" thing as the way you are describing is just a tiktok meme. The people who say that they get an "ick" when you wake up the wrong way and what not are not serious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:10 PM
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Then they either were not interested in you or you are terribly misreading what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:48 PM
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I can't actually see anybody shaming here. And i have never met anyone here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:19 PM
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I have never met anyone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:12 PM
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Who is just randomly going to shame you for your insecurities? Like if you don't make your insecurities someone else's problem, nobody will shame you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:08 PM
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Fertility doesn't even reach its peak until early twenties, and then it is rather static up until your early-mid thirties. So what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:28 PM
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Resorting to ad hominem, a clear sign of desperation 🤭. I find it ironical, that you are crying about that when did the exactly the same thing in the comment before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:25 PM
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chances of your child having down syndrome doubles when you are 28 compared to 20 is not very good for your SMV. Prevelance of down syndom by mothers age. (Births per 10000) <20 = 6.2 20-24 = 6.3 25-29 = 6.2 30-34 = 10.3 35-39 = 25.6 40+ = 81.6
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:13 PM
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Nobody is my enemy. Nobody is bad at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:14 AM
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If 18 is the absolute peak, that is sligthly worrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:03 AM
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Read trough your posts again. Literally every single paragraph contains an attack. Or do you have memory loss again?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:39 PM
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Yeah I'm so insecure that scouring through my posts in an attempt to discredit what I'm saying. You're insanely fucking pathetic and then to accuse someone else of being insecure when you're triggered enough to somehow claim me being on dating apps is somehow a dick move. Imagine being so braindead that you try to accuse me for being "fucking pathetic" after going trough your post history when you have been trying to attack my character for the past 6 hours on a tuesday afternoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:31 PM
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And wait, how does that even make me wrong? I am trying to see what you are so massively insecure about. The insecurity in your posts is very clear trough the deflection, projection and open hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:24 PM
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Based on the posts you have made about your relationship, it seems all around toxic. So maybe that has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:19 PM
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Lol yes. It's not literally intrusive thoughts about porn, it's intrusive thoughts about wanting to just get fucked by a guy they're attracted to but having to contend with the social or safety fall out that comes with that. He was using a hyperbole statement in bad faith. The goal is to take it literally to challenge his exaggeration. Most people don't have intrusive thoughts affecting their immediate behaviour uncontrollably. ​ Wtf??? How on earth is the Madonna whore complex not relevant in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:40 PM
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very few of us had an understanding of what those cues were and how to decipher them. Its also largely a preserve of our primate cousins. You don't decipher them. There is no conscious thought process you put into analyzing their body language and you propably don't even remember any of it afterwards. It's all intuitive. So much so that one out of the three primary diagnostic criteria for Autism Spectrum disorder in DSM-5 is "Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:50 PM
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How is this schizophrenia? Women (and men) constantly talk about how their innate desires often conflict with their real world persona's or need to adhere to behavioural convention. That is literally not what he said. He said that womens intrusive thoughts about porn causes them to act unpredictably and have mood swings. ​ Its the same as the Madonna/Whore complex of men wanting a woman with all the sexual ability of a seasoned pornstar whilst maintaining decorum when in non sexual settings. Mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:36 PM
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If this was the case, people would pair bond in far more mysterious ways. Except, they dont. Non verbal communication makes up the majority of the information shared in a conversation, so I don't even know what you are saying. Why would it make it any more mysterious how people pair up? Like you are already talking or interacting when you get to do any of it. ​ People largely cluster around people from the same communities, tax brackets, race and values. What are you even trying to explain here?…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:16 PM
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This makes sense in theory, however in reality things are largely predictable and humans follow trends and patterns often predicated on anything from gender to nationality or age You don't make conscious predictions on behaviour. You know how others are feeling based on how they intuitively act and react and you know what to expect based on those feelings and reactions. It isn't some sociology level predictions, you just intuitively know how the other person feels and reacts to whatever you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:54 PM
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I did not accuse anyone. You described emotional manipulation and explained to you that that is not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:44 PM
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What does this have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:39 PM
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Dating is 2 people trying to figure out if they like each other and are compatible for a relationship. What you are describing falls more under the "emotional manipulation" category.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:34 PM
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Nobody has yet to explain what "unpredictable" means. Like humans are especially good at understanding and predicting social behaviour. So if someone is unpredictable, its very often an indication of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:30 PM
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What kind of mind games are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:23 PM
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This is not typical behaviour for anyone. Healthy people don't think or act like that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:15 PM
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Luckily schizophrenia only affects 0.3% of the population so you don't have to worry about this kind people all that often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:13 PM
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I've taken women in dates, been intimate but something happens where it gets too overwhelming and the behaviour is so unpredictable I lose interest. Are you dating meth addicts or how is the behaviour "unpredictable"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:05 PM
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The more you socialize the more likely you are to be good at socializing. Ofcourse it is not guaranteed to solve everything, but it will definetly help and is better than just staying at home playing games all day
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:10 AM
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Well, that can be just chalk up to bad parenting. Normal well adjusted people don't just get those views out of nowhere. Its a result of some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:02 AM
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​ "since having a baby my husband won't touch me" "my wife has never been interested in sex but is having an affair" "my partner slept with heaps of people before we met but says they don't see me like that" These are also explained by just about hundreds of other things which are more likely that explain this situation perfectly. You jumping int This is just interperation bias. Especially when Freuds views on sexual dichotomy are mostly just not true. ​ Curious question, I noticed your interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:12 PM
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But plenty of what is written in those forums can be explained as caused by a sexual dichotomy. What exactly can be explained by sexual dichotomy? ​ I've not yet heard of anything better on this issue. Because it's a 130 years old issue that affected very few people It isnt an issue in todays world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:52 PM
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Well, the amount of people living in extreme poverty was over 60% just 70 years ago. Now it is under 10%. Technological developements set the groundwork for todays standards of living and future developements. Humans are living better than we have ever lived in the history. What kind of sadistic cunt would say that our grand parents did nothing for us and that they deserve to die for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:32 PM
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Dead bedrooms happen for a lot of reasons. Biggest of which are stress and lifestyle issues alongside unresolved underlying relationship problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:26 PM
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Like a month or so ago? It was brought up when you were complaining about not getting dates in tinder in DAE
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:23 PM
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That doesn’t discount that shifted social norms aren't still affecting it. Nowadays social norms dont lead to men having executive dysfunction when trying to fuck his wife. ​ Then you need to read Freud proper and concede that he did believe it present in women too. Freud has a lot of good points, but also lot of disproven stuff with absolutely no empirical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:06 PM
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Your granny gets sick, you just tell her, "welp, had a good run" We'll face the same fate one day. What a day to look forward. How philanthropical solution indeed. Most of humanity isn't as genocidal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:55 PM
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And talking to someone in the right context gets your foot in the door just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:38 PM
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That paper is outdated by all aspects. No doubt about it. Freud states it himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:36 PM
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I agree. I think it’s just the elites who make billions off of everyone else that are afraid of depopulation because capitalism relies on ever increasing sales and profit which means more and more people buying more and more stuff to keep profits rolling in. It isnt about capitalism. Its the increasing amount of old people in relation to workers. They need care to stay alive. When the amount of retirees is projected to be more than twice the amount of work force, you need a lot of workers and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:09 PM
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When you say things like this, you luckily don't have to worry about having sex. ​ If it weren’t for our sex drives modern women would be useless they don’t want us talking about how insane the current situation is or that feminism is out of control. Yeah the older you get I think the less you like people and dogs, maybe all living things? Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:06 PM
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That was not about real dating situations. It was a choice between 2 different people without actually being emotionally invested in anyone. It is irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:04 PM
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Attractive men struggle with commitment because there's no reason to commit when women are throwing themselves at you, yes. Plenty of people commit. It isn't because you are attractive. You commit if you want to commit and actually like the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:03 PM
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What exactly was the false equivalency?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:00 PM
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That's revisionism based on gender politics. Is sawing your hand off when you get an infection revisionism? Or is it ancient technology long been left behind as understanding and technology has allowed us to get a deeper understanding of medicine?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:48 PM
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In this context. The way Freud understood frigidity is outdated and of limited understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:40 PM
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Firstly, freud also discussed men and women. Freud focused on men. What he termed "frigidity" in women, his analysis is largely centered on the male experience. He uses the concept of psychical impotence in men to draw parallels with his perceptions of female sexual response, but the in-depth analysis and theoretical framework he provides are predominantly about the psychological experiences and conflicts in men. ​ Though, that can be largely ignored as the concept of "frigidity" as understood b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:36 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? You having sex outside a relationship or marriage does not mean anything. It's not sexual dichotomy, it's just your sexuality. It doesn't affect anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:26 PM
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They should be integrated to be one thing. As freud wrote. Freud discussed how cultural and societal norms influence dynamics. He suggests that the upbringing and socialization of men in a particular society can lead to these conflicted feelings and the subsequent need to debase the sexual object. He does not suggest that the partners are "debased" He suggest that men need to see them as debased in order to get sexually aroused
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:21 PM
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Are the casual sex partners of equal parity to the marriage? These things are being compared
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:13 PM
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There is a relationship only if you agree with someone that there is a relationship. You are not forced to get into a relationship with someone first in order to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:04 PM
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Debased means a reduction of value or quality from its previous state. You cannot use the word "debase" to compare 2 things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:00 PM
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What you just quoted just basically means that Freud is suggesting that for some women, the excitement or arousal comes not from the sexual act itself, but from the thrill of breaking societal rules or norms. This literally has nothing to do with anything talked before. ​ I've already explained this to you. The sex partner is debased, is reduced. If, for example, there is a pregnancy the relationship is illegitimatised. Casual sex partner is not "debased"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:51 PM
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Of course it is, most couples meet through online dating today, Most couples meet trough online dating because vast majority of those relationships fall apart within the first year. the vast majority of my friends met their long-term wives or girlfriends through online dating. Cool, I dont know a single person who met their long term partner online. My grandpa asked my grandma for a dance at a ballroom, that's how they met, they didn't have anything to connect them initially, but they built it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:59 PM
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​ It's an agreement to minimise the relationship aspects of the sexual relationship. It is not. It is just having sex when you are not in a relationship. There is absolutely nothing more to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:34 PM
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We are just fine. It's mostly just xenophobia and nationalism that was kickstarted by the 2015 migrant crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:25 PM
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​ You cannot exactly talk about "madonna-whore complex" and then make your own interperations. "Madonna-whore complex" is a defined but extrapolated interpretation of his ideas. ​ didn't even place a gender on it, even referring to examples in women. Oh yes he did. "If the practising psycho-analyst asks himself on account of what disorder people most often come to him for help, he is bound to reply—disregarding the many forms of anxiety—that it is psychical impotence. This singular disturbance a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:23 PM
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They most definetly are. Have you seen the rise of populist and far right parties in europe and their core supporters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:05 PM
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It isn't an agreement of no relationship. It is just deciding to have sex while not being in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:59 PM
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The madonna-whore complex in freud's paper is just a complex where some men view women as either "Madonnas" or "whores" and struggle to maintain a relationship because of it and it is often rooted in underlying pshycological conditions. And even Freud admitted it was propably affected by the social norms of the time where sexuality was frowned upon outside marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:56 PM
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Madonna-whore complex is the inability to maintain arousal in a long term relationship, so it literally says absolutely nothing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:43 PM
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Do you still explore the world by putting absolutely everything and anything in your mouth like you did as a kid, or have you "magically" changed your ways from those toddler years?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:41 PM
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What kind of honesty are you even looking for? And what does attacking unrelated people calling them whores help in that goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:38 PM
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That is true for some, not all. Like I have friends that fuck around when they are single, and then they meet someone somewhere and start dating and stop fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:36 PM
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If that were truly the case, we would be more open about n-counts. Why? Nobody you want to be around really cares about your N count. It literally doesn't matter to the point that even asking about it makes you sound weird. ​ We'd also be more open about saying "I'm having sex with you because I hope this becomes a relationship". Again, nobody stated that. ​ Why are you so offended by someone having sex? Like bro, you sound like a miserable person
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:25 PM
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eHarmony seems to be a big one based on personality test with 37m users compared to tinder's 530m. I think 37m is still a number one can work with :) if it would be active users, then yeah, maybe, but it quite literally says that it has around 10 million under the headline. That divided between like 10-20 countries and you got basically nobody outside few major cities And tinder has around 50 million active users.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:20 PM
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If that's possible the persons psychology, then what is occuring is the sex partner is debased, like the whore in the Madonna-Whore complex. People have casual sex because they like sex. It isnt that hard or require any complexes I cannot understand why you are so pressed about how others live their life. Each to their own, as they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:07 PM
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But the definition of casual sex, is an agreement that there isn't a relationship. Casual sex is just sex that happens without a relationship. ​ It's not an agreement that you are looking for a relationship. No it is not, but it might happen. Going hiking to a polish hillside isn't an agreement that you are looking for a relationship either, but that is how I met my wife. ​ It's uncomprehensible to say that it was done to find a relationship. 2 single people have sex, if they happen to fall for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:35 PM
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Nobody implied that casual sex is requirement for monogamy. What was said is that she is looking for a monogamous partner trough casual sex. And casual sex =/= cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:21 PM
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Like, pay to access and long questionnaires so an algorithm can generate matches on compatibility. I have never even heard of such service, so i cannot imagine their user amounts are very large. Especially with the 6 biggest holding 90% marketshare. And what goes for questions, you can't really know about about compatability before you get to be with someone. Especially when questions are as simple as given in that article So it's basicly the first date you figure it out. I don't know if i will …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:52 AM
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Online dating really isn't a good idea for anyone not looking for casual sex. Like, even if you get dates, the chances are that the date isn't going to lead to a good relationship, as you pretty much met at random so there really isn't much connecting you two. And most people really arent compatible dating most people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:53 AM
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Men are engineer minded. They want actionable tasks and strategies to achieve them. Not this, Isn't this just a description of some central ASD characteristics? Like most men do just fine going by feeling and seeing how others react. We don't need any plan or "actionable tasks" beforehand. It isnt a normal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:49 AM
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female child Also known as daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:37 AM
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To be fair, the opportunity was there The dude literally commented that "This comment is useless", like he was saying that the comment that he wrote was useless. Of course you have someone commenting on it to point out his mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:49 PM
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I wouldnt expect much. It's the dude who was asking about starter girlfriends and if it would be socially acceptable to fuck his aunt
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:30 PM
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OK. well how would you feel about a law requiring the mother to work in order to collect child support? Depends on the age of the child and the overall situation, a law that would be fair, or even functional is fairly difficult to come up with here. A 1-3 year old requires easily 16-18 hours of attention per day while a newborn requires constant attention and supervision. And like, the father is equally responsible for the child. ​ Cus currently child support isn't calculated by what the child n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:10 PM
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The first article is just a joke. But i am not saying "Ick" is not a real thing. I am saying that the extreme cases you see online are not common. Like stop overthinking everything and just meet women so youll get a more nuanced perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:18 PM
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I don't know why bluepillers do it. But I am doing it because you are clearly lacking any other viewpoint in the matter so you don't realize that people don't actually do any of it in any real and widespread manner. Basing your whole view of women on your social media bubble isn't healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:13 PM
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Maybe stop taking the tiktoks and videos you see so seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:09 PM
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CONCEPTION IS WHAT FUCKING LEADS TO THE BABY. Are you just trolling or are you really this dumb. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CHILD YOU CONCEIBVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:50 PM
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You having sex is the action that led to a baby. Abortion is a traumatic experience for many Are you retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:34 PM
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So you want another person to go trough trauma in order to not see the consequences of your own action? you sound like a pshycopath
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:16 PM
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I probably don't regret fucking her (unless she really, really was a bad fuck) and I never made the choice to put a kid on this planet, so what is that choice I'm supposedly regretting? The conception resulted from your decision to have sex. And conception will lead to a baby without potentially traumatic and distressing choice of aborting it. So that baby is a direct result of your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:05 PM
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You have a choice to not have sex. You cannot expect another person to go trough a traumatic expererience, because you regret your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:58 PM
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Stop trying to make men responsible for women's choices. A baby is not a womans choice. When you have concetual sex, the baby is a mutual choise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:53 PM
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Why would another person get to decide against my expressed wishes to not have a baby, that I will have to become a parent anyway? It's my body, my choice too. You accept the risks. You take a risk knowgly that it could end up in a conception and a baby. ​ ​ Can't believe you are honestly claiming that men should be responsible for decisions made without their input by women. You made an input when you had sex.´The result of that sex was a baby. For someone crying hard about women not taking acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:38 PM
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You can also get a vasectomy, and boom no babies. Sex is a reproductive act, when you have sex, you agree to the possibility of having a baby. Why do you expect someone to go trough a traumatic experience, just because you chose afterwards that you arent okay with babies anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:20 PM
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YOU MADE A CHOISE TO HAVE A BABY BY HAVING SEX. YOU HAVE NOBODY ELSE TO BLAME. Stop having sex if you are not ready to be a father. THE CHILD DESERVES A GOOD LIFE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:04 PM
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​ If you are supposed to be a man, why in God's name are you advocating for women to not take responsibility over something that was their choice and their choice alone? Are you some kind of white knight or something? Just because I am a man, does not mean I am not able to have common sense. Why would I be supporting insane deadbeats?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:42 AM
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So you are solely responsible for the conception, because you chose to not get a vasectomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:25 AM
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You don't choose to not abort. The same way you don't choose to not go sky diving every morning. You only make a choice when you decide to go skydiving ​ Therefore women should also take the responsibility. They are. They should not take the sole responsibility though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:05 AM
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I couldn't handle casual sex all that well, it just left me feeling sad and empty. I guess I am too emotional and actually wanted meaningful connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:23 AM
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If what you claim here is true, then you are making men responsible for a choice that was made by a woman, and only a woman. There is 1 choice, and it is to get an abortion, not having an abortion is not a choice, its the baseline. When a child is conceived, it requires an active decision and willingness to go trough a lot of potentially traumatic stuff to abort it. ​ So the only choice that led to the baby being born was to have sex. Not getting an abortion is not a choice by anyone, it is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:18 AM
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It isnt "opt in" to go trough a potentially very traumatic and distressing experience. Abortion is something you do only when you absolutely want to do so. It is an extreme measure. For all intents and purposes, when the baby is conceived, you both are responsible for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:44 AM
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The child is born, child support is for the child. You made that child happen, it had no say in the matter, and it deserves a good life. You are jointly responsible for supporting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:59 AM
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Except that you do not have precedence over someone else's body. When you have sex as a man, you choose to take on a risk of conception so you are jointly responsible for the outcome, and since you do not give birth yourself, or grow a baby within your body, you cannot abort it. The baby is not responsible for being born, the parents are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:24 AM
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Yes, you can choose to not have sex. 0% risk of becoming a father
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:33 AM
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If someone complains about their SO on group chats, it is a strong sign that the person isn't capable of a healthy relationship, regardless of the problems they may legitimately have in that relationship. Or it might just be a strong sing of a problem within a relationship that they do not know hot to handle and are seeking help from their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:01 AM
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then men deserve to choose to be a father or not. You have all the rights to decide wether or not you want to have sex. You can't exactly make a baby alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:38 PM
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If someone breaks up with you for sharing your emotions, then it's better for everyone that the breakup happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:57 PM
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Upper hand in a sense of knowing your personal secrets and then when the relationship ends she will tell others about them. Maybe you should reconsider the people you are dating, as based on this description, they seem to be quite a massive assholes. ​ Also in a sense of vulnerability in how much are you going to compromise your frame for her. The more you lose your frame and move into her frame the attraction is going to diminish. What frame? And how is talking about my feelings going to "dimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:24 PM
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They're competing in who cares more and so they're able to weed out weak males, What kind of people are you dating? They sound awful. And like, it's not like you are going to be trauma dumping on a first date
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:05 PM
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Upper hand in what exactly? What are you competing in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:50 PM
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I only ever see anyone talk about this online. Like, if you are in a relationship or have good friendships of course its expected to be vurnable with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:59 AM
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Anyone who considers a "starting girlfriend" appropriate, should not be dating anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:07 AM
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A man helping an old woman cross a street would be invisible to most women unless he was also tall, hot, etc and only then will they notice and gush over his qualities. Tallness, hotness ect wont change that you are invisible to people. Nobody pays that much attention to you during your day to day life. You have to get peoples attention somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:41 AM
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t, it's why the US can fund the Palestinian genocide USA is funding Israel that is defending itself against an attack from Iranian proxies and terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:13 PM
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I have never once seen anyone but incels use the term "subhuman"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:53 PM
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I am a man, so I don't consider men regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:48 PM
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Are we only rating the physical appearance of someone, that's like only a tiny part of someone? And most of the time irrelevant. And how physically attractive someone is depends a lot on the situation and how they present themselves. Still, hard to rate, but the women I generally think are physically attractive are different to those that my friends think are physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:18 PM
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Is the dating market in some sort of demonic parallel universe where ugly people have as much SMV as attractive people? If you are going to use incel terms, please explain what they mean. ​ ​ Why do y'all take some methaphoras so literally? referring to dating as a "market" doesn't capture the full complexity and emotional depth of human relationships. Dating and romantic relationships are far more nuanced and driven by a multitude of social, psychological, and emotional factors that go beyond t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:02 PM
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I don't rate people. I cannot say which person is better. I either get attracted to someone or i don't, I never was attracted to anyone before talking to them for a while though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:39 PM
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It's the basic universal law of supply and demand, and humans do not supercede supply and demand. Classical model of supply and demand assumes a perfect market. Dating is nowhere close to a perfect market so any attempts to make comparisons really falls flat. Human emotions are also not predictable, or rational. You meet someone you vibe with, and that could be the one you fall for, regardless of who else is out there, who could have theoretically scored higher score on your imaginary rating sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:35 PM
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Cause rating things matter? How was the movie from 1 to 10? How was the dinner 1 to 10? How you see yourself from 1 to 10 is not some kind of attack. Again, there is no objective measure. How was the movie? You get different ratings from different audiences. How was the dinner? You get different ratings based depending on the situation. Sometimes it could be a 10/10, but the exact same dinner in some other circumstances or mood could be 7/10. And someone else might just not like it and rate it 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:32 PM
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I am just confused about your double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:42 PM
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Why is there supposed to be a "rating system", who does it benefit? There is no objective ratings, its all based on feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:04 PM
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Well, the "L's" you posted were just you meeting shitty people. So is the point of this post just to see someone tell you they got rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:45 PM
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So, your "L's" and faults are that you met shitty people? My 1st relationship turned sour when I was vulnerable with her; it gave her the ick and she dumped me I struggled with dating in my early 20s as I had no life direction. I was rejected by girls who worked at the same place as me (lmao) because I didn't make enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:28 PM
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Body count has no intrinsic worth but if a woman has a high BC and that fact is publicly disclosed then a lesser number of men from all social strata will be interested in seeing her as a romantic partner, thus limiting potential partners. Is it a bad thing, that someone who doesn't share your lifestyle or values don't find you a potential partner? Like, you aren't dating those people regardless, so whats the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:56 PM
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Your value to the gender you want to attract. How would you even determine that, because everyone values anmd looks for different things? And why do you talk about it like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:49 PM
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Lowered you value As in what scenario? Why is your value determined by your faults? Value as in what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:44 PM
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Random people aren't going to start hitting on you suddenly, just because you have a girlfriend, at least not commonly, or in any normal social settings. If anything, they might come to you when someone is harassing them at a bar for example because they see you as more reliable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:36 PM
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It's a problem, but it's a really local problem. Here in Finland for example, large towns and university towns are where women vastly outnumber men, while small rural villages have men outnumbering women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:27 PM
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Sex is not some gift you should be grateful for. It's often an intimate action and declining it when it does not feel right is exactly what you should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:24 AM
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Women, why do you do this? Do you think men won’t notice? Do you think we’ll look past it? I’m genuinely curious Men are doing the exact same thing aswell, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:00 AM
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I dont think gold diggers make up that big of chunk of the population to meanginfully shift averages in either direction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:39 PM
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. But unfortunately most women will always be blinded by a chads sexy smile ignoring his personality, be used and then categorising all men as bad. Dude, cut the incel crap and take some accoutability
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:52 PM
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Nothing. It just lets me understand why you would have such a weird opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 07:21 PM
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Have you actually been on a date? Because this definetly sounds like that you have not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:45 PM
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We’ve talked about that. Hers is pretty low. Under 20 The average is like 4 for women under 45, so that would be 5 times the average
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:07 PM
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That video does not contain "perfect hair". At he point OP shared, it's just a messy bun, in other places its just brushed straight
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:16 AM
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Do share the video you watched then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:14 AM
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I mean with the tiktoks or whatever those are you shared. it's clearly staged unless you think the camera man is just invisible. She clearly prepared what she was wearing so she could look good for the camera. Well, shorts and a t-shirt isn't exactly out of ordinary clothing. Especially at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:44 AM
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Another banger from Hoe_math, it's no wonder he's blowing up on tiktok, his metacognitive skills are top notch. Anyway, i want to add a couple caveats to his analysis: 💀💀💀 Nah man, he ain't some metacognitive jesus, he is just taking advantage of incels and young teens inexperience. Telling them what they want to hear in order to profit himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:01 PM
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When you cant sell your retirement funds, you often really cant
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:46 PM
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No which is why the person who works less than a high schooler should be doing most the child rearing The better situation would be for both to work 40 hours, or close to it and share that equally. Taking care of 3 kids can take upwards of 120 hours of attention per week and will result in numerous sleepless nights, especially when they are young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:39 PM
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Do you think the 3 kids just magically take care of themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:31 PM
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Investments are rather normal part of everyday finances. Most young people here have invested some thousands of euros, with overall 50% of the population having investments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:15 PM
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Divorces can happen for multitude of reasons, not just trust. Like if you fall out of love, it aint about trust, but you still want to protect your assets
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:13 PM
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Having a crush is true attraction, it's not automaticly love to feel emotions. You can think someone looks good without ever getting attracted to them. And people definitely have sex with people they normally wouldn't find even physically attractive, especially at parties or clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:54 AM
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I am not the one claiming to be too ugly for relationships, and crying about it each day. What happened to the accountability you keep complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:55 PM
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Nobody is that hot, that they find any particular success by just walking up to randoms without any indication of interest and asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:47 PM
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They definedly can not, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:40 PM
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You definetly can, as long as you have any amount of social awareness and don't overstay your welcome. And unless you are like just walking up to someone and saying stuff like "Hey, you are cute, wanna go out" or something equivalent out of the blue, people aren't gonna mind most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:37 PM
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Do you have a car note you're paying on, Why would I have a car? It would just come in the way of things as everything is walking distance away. And car notes are very often stupidly expensive loans for stupid people. , how about credit cards I have a credit card, what about it? It doesnt add any expenses as Its paid off before interest is accumulated. So far your definition of a rich person seems to be someone who does not completely fuck up their finances with expensive and stupid loans. , all…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:14 PM
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What the fuck do you mean i have no bills? Who pays for my rent, electricity, water, heating and insurances then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:59 PM
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Well, idk, I am a full student and my total income is like 2000€ / month. If that is the limit of what constitutes rich, then so be it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:55 PM
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That's 10 grand for a boat lol that is rich people shit and most Americans ain't the outdoorsy type... So are you saying that around 1000€ per person over the span of 3 years is a rich person shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:52 PM
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It's really not. Our boat costed like 10000€ in total in equipment and aluminum when built it, though its been upgraded with a lot of electrical stuff since. And a cabin can be rented for less than 400€ for a week. Nevertheless, you do your hobbies with your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:47 PM
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Where did I indicate that a bar is the only place to meet friends? Like, I am not buying shots at a bar when we are out boating or at a cabin or hiking or whatnot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:31 PM
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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to only having online friends. Like I need to get out and see people to have meaningful interactions. Online stuff is just kinda meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:27 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:03 PM
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In denial of what exactly? I am not the one making up some wild theories about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:54 PM
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That's most definetly the average dude. Relationships normally happen when 2 people of similar socioeconomic status meet eachother, like eachother and it goes forward. Most people arent concerned with some weird incel bs like "SMV" and whatnot. They date who they like and thats how far it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:48 PM
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I think the best explanation is an alpha is women's first choice. A kind of guy that can get girls without having to read up on game. One that can get girls without money. So the average dude in a normal job?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:39 PM
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I don't know a single person who was truly attracted to their one night stand. Like some level of physical attraction is usually where it's limited to, often not even that. Like I can think that someone looks good, but feel absolutely nothing towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:36 PM
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So your advice to people is to not get friends, because its possible they will get into a toxic relationship? These kinds of attitudes fuel the widespread male loneliness, men have hard time bonding and making meaningfull friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:44 PM
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You don't think relationships exist in which one partner will either outright dictate to the other who they can be friends with or nag them and treat them poorly whenever they do socialise with those people, to the point where it's just too much hassle to bother having them disapprove? And this is a toxic relationship, they arent something to idolize or take an example form. You should stay as far away as possible from a relationship like this. Your partner absolutely should not be controlling w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:38 PM
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Potential partner disapproval Why the fuck your partner have a choice who you are friends with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:31 PM
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Why not? All those men who used to be your buddies are now distant because they have partners, why shouldn't you be trying to achieve the same, if that's the path which people around you take in life? Relying on your partner to be your only social contact and friend can very easily become overwhelming and exhausting for the other person. Why would you lose your friends when you start dating? Like that sounds like an overall extremely toxic relationship. Why must it be required that you have a to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:03 PM
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People say this as though there's no way that you can just find yourself without friends through no fault or failing of your own. You definetly can, but at that point, finding a relationship is not what you should be putting your efforts towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:34 PM
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Why would anyone be with someone who thinks that they are ugly? Like isn't that just common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:16 PM
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I am referring to people without friends. If that is your case, you should propably focus on other areas of your life, like getting friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:03 PM
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That's another filthy blue pill lie. People are excited and happy if somebody they're attracted to approaches them, It's a cold approach, if someone is truly attracted to you, that would mean that you have interacted in the past. Like, you can't exactly be "truly attracted" to someone if you are only seeing them for the first time. ​ ​ They are anxious and stressed because it's a cold approach and they are trying to figure out how to get rid of somebody and don't know how. That whole "appropriat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:50 PM
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just give you really nervous and stressed body language That's just an automatic and intuitive response, like most other body language, and if that is a common thing when you approach a woman, you are doing something absolutely horribly wrong. Like people aren't scared of you if you do things appropriately and in appropriate settings
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:27 PM
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sure you would have the exact same success with the exact same caliber of women even if you were Wdym? I find success with the women i am attracted to. I don't want any other women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:06 PM
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You clearly haven't read the study. They had pictures and characteristics attached to each guy. What you read about someone doesn't matter. You can read that someone is smart and has a great sense of humor, but it does not matter if you don't get to feel that sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:02 PM
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Thinking that this kind of study means anything related to thus indicates a serious lack of social skills. And drives home my point. Real world isnt black and white. When you meet someone, they aren't out there objectively judging you based on your traits. Attraction is intuitive and just happens if it is to happen. You aren't being compared to anyone. Choosing between 2 people in a controlled study is of course going to result in the one that the person precieves as more physically attractive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:56 PM
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Put your soul into the body of a male model and then compare your experiences. Until then, probably not gonna take that seriously. A male model doing the same things I did with the same goals, propably would have ended in the same place. ​ No, women don't care how you refer to yourself. There are tinder experiments of male models calling themselves pedos and nazis who had swarms of women willing to sleep with them. The way you see yourself matters. If you view yourself as ugly, you are going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:46 PM
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Great, I never claimed it's impossible to overcome your shortcomings. What shortcomings? It literally never hindered me in any way. Nobody cared. If you have to do extra shit to get laid as an ugly guy it means being ugly is the main reason you are a virgin. You referring to yourself as ugly guy is 1000x more likely to be the reason for you being a virgin. If you dont love yourself, absolutely nobody else will either. And again, this conversation is an excelent way to confirm my point of virgin …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:35 PM
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Have you tried living as a short, ugly, bald, or indian guy? No, so you can't know. Short? Well, i mean i am 5'6. Doesnt matter Again, i have yet to meet someone who so ugly that that is the reason. Most of the time its just normal dudes saying they are ugly and blaming that for their lack of success. And there is literally more indians than any other group of people on this planet. And its not some point system. There is no grade And again, this conversation is an excelent way to confirm my poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:29 PM
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You realize most male virgins are just guys who got screwed over by genetics? Sure some guys are socially inept but it's a small minority. Screwed over? how? I have yet to meet someone so ugly that that is the reason they are a virgin. Most of those adult virgins just seem to blame their looks or height or whatever else for their lack of success. The reasons are almost without fail that they don't know what to say, or how to act around women. Or that they simply dont meet anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:15 PM
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Being an adult virgin is often indicative of some underlaying problems, especially if he didn't choose to be a virgin, so it can be a red flag. Like if you are a socially well adjusted person, chances are you aren't going to be an adult virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:09 PM
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that’s not something you can just brush off in the presents, Why not? Is not something that matters in any way Most people you will ever meet has done that at some point in their lives. And like, how would that even get brought up? Its not particularly normal to discuss past partners when you are on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:44 PM
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I see your point, but at the end of the day, this isn’t an act that goes well in the relationship, But its not an act that was done in the relationship, so how would it even "Go in the relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:35 PM
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If online dating is the only way you meet women, then yeah, its kind of bad. You also are primarly exposed to a certain types of peopel there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:04 PM
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Going on a shit ton of dates with randoms seem like a waste of time. Like you can get to know people and have an idea if you are compatible before you ask them out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:02 PM
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Is this a new realization for you? Or why does it warrant a discussion post?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:25 PM
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Most cases yes. Women only truly lust over top 5-10% of physically attractive men and those men rarely have an incentive to marry as they can get endless women casually. Most women probably marry a guy they find at least somewhat attractive, but they don't lust over him. My man, have you like never ever interacted with a woman in your entire life or had female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:05 PM
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I refuse to believe that this is not some convoluted troll attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:50 PM
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Yeah, it's reddit. That tends to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:43 AM
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Yes, and we go on dates with my wife. I am not quite understanding your reply
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:35 AM
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Your post is about dates not an established relationship. But, you still go on dates when you are in a relationship, and when you are married. Literally, what are you trying to say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:02 AM
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Well, most peole here are americans, and obesity is just the norm in USA. 75% of men and around 67% of women are obese in the states. It's rarer to find someone who isnt obese, than its to find someone who is morbidly obese
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:56 AM
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Although I still find it wild how such women will still refuse to even entertain the interest from most guys who are if anything better than the ones they end up falling for. That's how humans and emotions are. You cannot negotiate attraction, it isn't calculated or decided. It's an emotion that happens if it is to happen and you are in the right circumstances, different people are attracted to different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:47 AM
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The core demographic are men aged 18-24.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:47 PM
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In what way is getting arrested and charged with a crime "leeway" and "getting away with" something`?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:15 PM
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If they are higher than they've ever been, Damn, then people in past had negative standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:22 PM
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Racially, socially, culturally, intellectually, financially. You can be great socially in one group while inept in another. So this just becomes about conformity. While it's true that social norms are different in different cultures and groups, emotions and the physical response to them is universal. Like you can have a conversation with anyone from any culture, and pretty closely know how they are feeling about something by how they talk about it and how they act while doing so, and you know ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:23 PM
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Any autistic man or woman can communicate effectively that fulfills the social animal requirement. Verbally, yeah. But 90% of human communication in a conversation is conveyed trough body language, visual cues, facial expressions, tone of your voice ect, and only about 10% of information is conveyed trough what you say. But when your demeanor does not match what you are saying, or you cant read other peoples reaction, it becomes near impossible and uncompfortable to communicate or judge your int…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:08 PM
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​ https://preview.redd.it/ag8fxeah54dc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=288b9b4aa132f3e7546e39eaf2b3129ad867c0cf
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:55 AM
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It isnt "research" The research is done in the paper, it's just coming up with the "why"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:54 AM
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​ Being good with women isn't even really all that difficult but it's not "natural" which is why a lot of men struggle with it A lot of men struggle with it because of lacking social skills that plagues todays world. Humans are social animals, we are ment to be good with each other, that's how we evolved as that was the requirement for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:29 AM
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That wasn't even extrapolating, I did not extend any datasets or create new data points. It was just making conclusions based on the existing dataset.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:19 AM
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How would you know someone has a dark triad personality if they don't mean to show it? They are very rare to begin with, and like narcissists or psychopaths don't go walking around with that written on their forehead, you only notice it with time, or if they do something outrageous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:51 PM
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I never attributed it to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:46 PM
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What did I do exactly? I came to a perfectly valid conclusion about a set of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:44 PM
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Let’s stop pretending manipulation is some Jedi mind power, all it takes to see thru a person’s bullshit is cross-examine their words with their past actions, and refuse to do what they want you to if their past actions or suggestions have hurt you before. Women will ignore every red flag in a man if he is highly attractive, at that point it’s a choice. If you know someone has a history in manipulating others, ofcourse you are going to be vary of them. But like, you don't know majority of the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:27 PM
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Manipulation in this case is lying to someone in order to get them to do something they would not normally do, if they knew the truth. if you fall for someone’s manipulation despite the red flags you are responsible for your own doom What immediate red flags would someone faking to be a good person display?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:21 PM
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And who would you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:19 PM
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In other words, you pulled a claim out of your butt and tried to If you wish to have an academic discussion about the data, we can do that. Though, I only have completed a minor in behavioural psychology ​ attribute it to scientists. And where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:14 PM
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Your whole comment was about deflecting blame to not take accountability for your own actions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:12 PM
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Forever Alone person I have no idea who those people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:04 PM
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If i commit financial fraud, is the goverment to blame for lack of accountability? If You shoot someone, is the victim to blame for being shot?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:03 PM
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but once they see how I look like, I get instantly blocked. ​ like to take accountability for their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:02 PM
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Drawing a conclusion from a research paper that is not directly related to the primary focus of the study, but is supported by the data is a legitimate part of academic analysis and discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:49 PM
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Yeah, but you cannot say "incels believe in redpill, when the ACTUAL incels dont. You can fit the description of a feminist while not being part of the group. And your beliefs aren the actual group beliefs, specially when your views conflict with the group beliefs All incels are ACTUAL incels. An incel is just someone who defines themselves as unable to attract a romantic partner desipite desiring one. And that commonly comes with self defeating attitude or hatred towards women but not always. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:40 PM
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personal impression/musing about what the tables as a whole "show", and nothing that was actually attributable to any specific data. Wdym? When someone says they had an aversive fantasy about being raped by an ex partner, and they were the victim of rape, what would be the reasonable conclusion in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:28 PM
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Blatantly wrong. Go to any actual incel space, where the guys describe themselves as incels and ask about Red Pill and youll see they at less dont like and at the most actually DESPISE it. Well, I mean, you dont have to call yourself an incel to be one, acting like one is enough. There are a lot of incels under the red pill flair here aswell. ​ So saying that men paying for the first few dates isnt the traditional expectation is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Ask any person in any place w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:20 PM
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The redpill is just goofy for most part. Like everyone seems to have their own definition of what it is, and the most common representation of it that i see are misogynistic incels complaining about womens standards or something Its still traditional. I don't understand as to why. Like traditional literally means long-established tradition. It's a very recent thing. AND Feminism There is a reason why feminism as a movement isnt really that widespread thing in europe. The issues USA forged into e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:06 PM
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BS. This sounds like data you pulled from your butt. It's literally in the PDF ​ What specific data tables justify your goofball interpretation that equated having the fantasy to The data tables show how they felt about those fantasies, what kind of fantasies they had, who they had them about, and that is the likely explanation as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:58 PM
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When you have no morals and your social skills are awesome, you can literally pretend to be anything, atleast for a while. And it really isnt "damn often" in the grand scheme of things as there arent that many people like that out there. Or people vurnable to other douchebags. And the study shows a correlation of about 2-3%, so its miniscule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:46 PM
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How is it the traditional? That's like the 1900-1960 USA stuff. Women were actively part of the economy in the middle ages and reneicancce and all troughout the industrial revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:37 PM
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Well I mean, neither do you. You keep claiming that you being a virgin is not the fault of your own actions by blaming ugliness, height or whatever else. So it's rather ironic for you to cry about "accountability"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:33 PM
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Why are you defending manipulation? Like lying and misrepresenting yourself to people for personal gain is not the hill you should die defending
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:30 PM
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It literally says it on the data tables. It tells you exactly how many respondents had certain types of fantasies and how they felt about them with long explanations. The table isn't even "scientific literature", it's literally just a spreadsheet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:26 PM
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I don't know what makes those views traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:25 PM
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Well, why did OP then post a study about dark triad traits rather than something that would imply agressiveness and lower impluse control? Like 2 of the 3 dark triad traits generally have excelent impulse controls. with Machiavellianism literally being defined by strategic long term planning in the efforts to manipulate and deceive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:02 PM
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That doesn't lend to a conclusion that the only people fantasizing about SA are recovering from trauma. That is why said trauma and fears makes up the majority of cases, atleast in the study OP posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:56 PM
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It was very close. He said Women fantasize about SA and seek men who are more likely to do it Having aversive fantasies about past trauma or fears is a coping mechanism for many people. And op tries to draw comparison between women having these fantasies as someone indicative of somehow wanting to be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:46 PM
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Define "Traditional view" And which tradition? "Traditional view" here means high family involvement and courtship rituals and very serious commitment from both parties. Though, it's been ceuntries since "traditional views" were anywhere common here. ​ And define "leftist", because I have been called that even though I am economically right of center
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:02 PM
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This kind of comparison is like saying that being attracted to outgoing people means that you are attracted to drug addicts, because outgoing people are more likely to do drugs. Trying to force that connection does not make any sense at all ​ Nevertheless, you cannot clump 3 dark triad traits together if you even attempted that kind of forceful connection as they are 3 seperate traits that correlate differently and they are Narcissism Psychopathy Machiavellismin
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:48 PM
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So, according to you, being fearful and having past traumas of Sexual assault makes you somehow want more of it? Nevertheless, out of the 355 people answering, 20% has been the victim of rape -And in the study 86 people reported having rape fantasies with vast majority saying it was aversive ​ and seek men who are more likely to do it. But you were drawing comparisons between dark triad and not rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:01 PM
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Dark Triad personality traits are attractive to women So, its a suprise to you that people who are capable of manipulation, say exactly what you want to hear for personal gain and are very outgoing and confident are rated more attractive for a short term fling by undergrad students? Like yeah, emotional manipulation works. ​ I have no idea how it relates the other article you are trying to draw comparisons to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:18 PM
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There is a disporportionate level of effort and and investment (not only economical) put by men on the early stages of dating, do you really think a man would be confortable investing in some woman for her to get fucked by someone else??? You are dating the wrong type of people then. Effort should be equal, if its not, you leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:00 PM
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Why are you trying to tell someone that what they find attractive is not attractive to them? Like who are you to tell someone that their subjective experiences and feelings are wrong? Attraction is subjective, there isnt right or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:21 PM
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It wasn't even the point of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:00 PM
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Right. When men do it, there's always deceit involved and clear intention. When you refer to it as pump and dump, yes. If there was mutual understanding you would call it a hookup or one night stand. Like literally the term oringinated from financial fraud where the price of an asset is artificially inflated through misleading or exaggerated statements. You misrepresent something in order to take advantage of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:51 PM
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and don't forget the guy is obligated to pay child support even though he never consented to have a kid How do you have a kid without having sex? If you consent to sex, you consent to the possiblity of having a child. Its in the nature of the act. If you dont consent to the risk of having a kid, dont have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:40 PM
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When you consent to sex, you consent to the risk of having a child, it is a reproductive act. By having sex, you have already accepted to be the father if that risk realizes. Unless deception was used ofcourse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:34 PM
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If you have 500 people, 1 person is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:01 PM
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Well, tinder has a gender ratio of like 1 woman for 3 men, most of which being certain type of people. Either way, most men still get matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:00 PM
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I am confident because I do not need validation from other people, so I am not overly obsessed what other people think. I know what I am good at, I know what i am not good at, I know I will make mistakes if I do things I am not good at, but they aren't the end of the world and I can laugh about it. I can be confident in doing something I don't know how to because I dont expect to be good at it, and i am not discouraged by a mistake i make If someone criticizes my actions, I am not defensive abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:36 PM
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Household costs are about 50/50 and that's about it for joint finances. We have seperate investments ect
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:19 PM
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These 1950's "traditional gender roles" that was popularized by the rise of nuclear families and suburban sprawl is kind of weird and foreing to me as a European.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:39 PM
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So the "male perspective" is that you get a maid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:07 PM
1

Calling someone obese isn't an insult, it's a fact. What matters is the context and intent of you calling someone obese in determining wether or not it's an insult. Sure, it might be a fact, but if you intent to hurt or anger someone by saying it, you are using it as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:18 PM
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And yeah I've met a long of women that don't count calories hard to miss That's US for you, 75% of men and about 65% of women are overweight. Calling people "Landwhales" is un-nececcary
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:15 PM
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What is this fanfiction incels keep talking about? "since women only date up. " " which theyre totally fine with. " " nd theyr're not to blame since average women feel entitled to the top men but cant lock them down and only be part of their seasonal harem, " Like bruh, wtf? Your inability to date has nothing to do with "sexual revolution" but rather the fact that you unironically believe shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:19 PM
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However, men would take a bulge compliment cheerfully. I definetly wouldn't, and i propably wouldnt want anything to do with the person who said this. Unless they are my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 07:22 PM
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dating at first is you getting to know someone and figuring out if you two are compatible with eachother and want to be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 07:15 PM
6

You dont wash your curtains ? 💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:47 PM
1

intelligence in its raw form (just knowing lots of stuff) is just not fun. That is just knowledge. Like anyone can know a lot of stuff with effort, doesnt mean they are intelligent. Intelligence is more so your ability to apply that knowledge into real world situations, reason and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:30 PM
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"that has nothing to do with being a virgin. Many people in specialized fields are this way. And people with those traits tend to be virgin more often than the average population. doubt but again has nothing to do with being a virgin You propably wouldnt feel FOMO, if you werent a virgin. So you would be less likely to be as desperate to find a relationship. so now virginity causes autsim.. hmm' No, but autists are more likely to be virgin. And if someone is an adult virgin, there is a higher th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:57 AM
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You got the URL wrong, this aint incel .is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:52 AM
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People are lonely even in countries where people dont get their shit kicked out. Here kids can perfectly fine walk 2km to attend pre-school at the age of 6 and not have anything happen to them, yet people are lonelier than ever due to the increased use of social media and video games and people generally being less forced into social situations due to internet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:05 PM
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You just said yourself mate: you are here to poke fun at the unfortunate. I am here to poke fun ai incels. Not unfortunate. Incels do it to themselves, or chooce not to do anything about their situation and blame external factors. ​ And how does being unable to attract a partner equate to loneliness? Like if you are lonely, partner isnt going to fix that and could very realistically end in a co-dependant relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:29 PM
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What exactly is my agenda here? I got lost here accidentally, and now I am just curious and entertained more than anything. These obscure subreddits are like a zoo and I can't look away. Incels making up some boogieman "Chads" and blaming their height or face for their unability to attract a partner instead of taking accountability and fixing themselves. It's quite funny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:11 PM
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Incel by definition is " a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile towards women and men who are sexually active. "
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:09 PM
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Could you post an example of a lilith doing that? I have not witnessed that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:01 PM
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Oh no, the incel wont give me a proper reply 😭😭😭😭😭 What ever will I do 😭😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:00 PM
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And ugly bums with kids. And toothless methheads with kids and all ofther kind of people with kids. Literally anyone can find a partner, and without care you might just have an unplanned pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:43 PM
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The people who can talk very rarely have any issues with dating or relationships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:54 PM
3

It sure is strange that women dressing provocatively happens when men are around. The majority of women wouldn't dress that way at a children's birthday party. And I wouldn't dress up in khaki pants and a blazer to a childrens birthday party, while i would propably wear it when playing billiard with friends. What is you point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:30 PM
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(see: advertisements even in victoria secret and other fashion brands showing off fat women). Like more than 70% of americans are fat. Fashion brands have to promote their products to fat people in america in order to stay in business. The businesses arent trying to advance some agenda, they are trying to sell their product. They arent "promoting fat women" , they are promoting TO fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:44 PM
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You get paid almost your full salary during parental leave, the 100€ is just extra you get until your child turns 18, so what do you need to replace? Most of the costs are paid by tax payers, you really are only left paying for food, clothing and your house or apartment. The situation is not economical here. Even an unemployed couple could afford to raise a child
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:51 PM
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If they want to solve it they have to make having kids easier. If you get a year of maternity and paternity leave and there universal pre school etc. To be fair, we have tax funded day care, tax funded preschools, tax funded 160 days paternity leave for both parents here in Finland, and parents are paid about 100€/ month per child and we have one of the lowest birth rates amongst the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:36 PM
1

If you have 10 women jointly responsible, you also have 10 men jointly responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:41 PM
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No accurate numbers, but you can make fairly accurate estimates with Genetic Genealogy. And ofcourse fraud is banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:30 PM
2

It does not matter. You can see which side is larger and by what amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:26 PM
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What numbers are you reading because the International Society of Genetic Genealogy estimates are around 1% of cases where paternity was misattributed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:59 PM
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The numbers are directly compareable so it doesnt matter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:57 PM
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But like, men are way more likely to cheat though, and paternity fraud is very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:19 PM
7

Somebody has to be responsible for it, it's not like you can just not do your grocery shopping. It's either, one or both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:12 PM
1

Why would brownshirts be marching? Angry incels are tiny part of the population. And like 99% of them will no longer be virgins at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:32 PM
1

What would I need to solve? I don't honestly care about your virginity and inability to find a partner. You'll figure it out eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:47 AM
1

That just is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:51 PM
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I am a man I know exactly how the situation is. It's not bad at all, atleast if you have any kind of social circles. And Chad does not exist, its just a boogieman made up by self loathing incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:03 PM
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Well, almost half of young men havent even asked anyone out. So what else that could be than self inflicted? Like the kind of disability that would prevent you from finding a partner is not a very common occurance. If you refuse to do something about your situation, its 100% your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:57 PM
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Why would dating be broken? That isnt explained anywhere. ​ One of the top reasons for divorce being financial reasons just means the man didn't make enough, or in other words he doesn't make enough to compensate for lack of x. That is not what financial reasons mean in this context. They mean things like mismatching priorities, unexpected major expenses and secret spending ect. Like if I want to save and invest for the future, and my partner wants to buy a new house or go to yearly holidays, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:24 PM
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If you truly have 0 options, that is 100% self inflicted in vast majority of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:23 PM
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And if you have self worth and someone does not give you basic respect, you decide you are having nothing to do with that person ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:20 PM
4

"Filtering out fuckboys" is a really dumb excuse for expecting men to pay for nice dinner dates Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:08 AM
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Well, 70% of americans weight that or more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:17 AM
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So if a woman is 5’6, how much should she weigh to be between overweight and obese, in your view? Around 75-80kg. I don't feel like finding out what it is in pounds as I am on a phone right now. Though, it has the same issues as BMI calculation usually, it doesn't take muscle and body fat, ect into account
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:04 AM
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Propably somewhere between overweight and obese. Its not healthy to try to make obesity sound better by calling it "plus size" But yeah, a lot of people, especially in USA tends to be very fat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:59 AM
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Why are you defining morbidly obese as plus sized? And to be fair, most fat guys seem to be dating fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:53 AM
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Most succesful men haven't even heard of the whole pill thing and most definetly don't use weird terms like "HVM". It feels like most pilled people are just roleplaying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:53 AM
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Is being an adult virgin somehow indication of "high value men" then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:38 AM
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What levels are you on about? It isnt a video game where people have raking based on their stats
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:37 PM
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Tbf, you arent even making points. You are just spouting random shit in response to individual words in comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:27 AM
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Why does being single mean being lonely in your world? Like most normal people have friends and family to support them so they are not lonely or desperate. Relationship is supposed to add to your life and you cannot force attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:13 AM
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There is no need to replace all labour, just the factory workers you would be taking back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:41 AM
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Robotics manufacturing is a pretty high skilled engineering job. You aren't going to give those tasks to a bunch of unskilled factory workers. And US most definedly has the capability to build robotics. There is boston dynamics plant literally in Boston. We have a whole bunch of robotics manufacturing capacity here in Europe aswell, and a huge chunk of our factories are mostly automated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:34 AM
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It already makes sense to use them in mid and high value production like cars or medical supplies. But in an OP's wet dream of de-globalization, it would make sense to do everything with robots when you no longer have access to cheap labour over in asia. Manufacturing robots truly arent expensive, atleast compared to long term factory workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:24 AM
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It's not like most men will survive in the wilderness either. Your average guy has no idea how to hunt, fish or gather for enough food or build shelters so it's kinda pointless question Anybody can learn the specific skills to survive in the wilderness, but most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:33 AM
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Such "likable" people are only good at masking the fact that their ultimate concern is their own well-being. You know that normal people exist? The whole world is not filled with psychopathic cunts trying to take advantage of others all day every day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:33 PM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:12 AM
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Yeah, if you are an adult, that indeed is the case. Pretty much nobody thinks there's anything cool about sleeping with a lot of women Highschool and college are different enviroments though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:23 AM
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The reason I have never used a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:47 AM
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More? Yeah, propsbly. Though 30, times is too much. A survey with 5% of margin of error is pretty much equal to toilet paper. 6% with a 5% of margin of error doesn't really tell you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:59 AM
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There is 2.1 million creators in onlyfans. Europe and USA alone has 1.1 billion people. That is just about 0.2% of the population just the USA and europe. And about 0.04% of G20 population. Regardless, no age group has 20% using onlyfans or doing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:06 AM
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Then why do drugs cause peoples eyes to dilate? Because drugs prevents the brain from functioning normally. And sure, arousal can cause pupil dilation, the same as a sense of danger but you cannot use it to determine anything as having dilated pupils doesnt mean there is arousal or attraction and not having dilated pupils doesnt mean there is no arousal or attraction. It's like, you are better of flipping a coin than trying to guess what the dialted pupils means in each situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:38 PM
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Dilated pupils are a sign of love/attraction/lust. This is one of those things you read of a weird blog telling you how to know if your crush likes you when you are 13. It doesnt really mean anything if someones pupils is dilated, other than the amount of light entering their eyes It isnt a good way to identify anything as the light level of the room and the direction of the light affects your pupils way more than any crushes you may have. Stimulants, medication or things like migraines can affe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:02 PM
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Maybe you just hang around in certain people. It's quite hard to consisntantly meet people that make up way less than a 0.1% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:48 PM
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But they are excidingly rare and chances are you don't even meet one in your day to day life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:41 PM
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You cant talk about generalities and say things like this dum dum more than happy sharing their nudes for money. Such hypocrisy. Like very few people do that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:27 PM
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Why would you be with someone you don't want to be, rather than just stay single? Like why go into a relationship that just takes away from your life, but doesnt improve or add anything to it in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:07 AM
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