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DebateResponsible-Bee-3439/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:15 AM
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"Virgin" is a very high bar. All you have to do is have sex literally once in your life and it's gone. Having one hump when you're 21 because you and a girl got drunk at a party or online dating worked once and none since then is technically not a virgin but practically the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:12 PM
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No, and your defensive tone isn't doing you any favors. 40something men look around 40, but that doesn't deter women in their 30s the same way. Women usually like men who are somewhat older than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:40 PM
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I'd say that's right, 25-34 or maybe 27-36 is when men have matured out of doing stupid shit and developed a bit of a career and look good and can still get hard easily so that seems like their peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:38 PM
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Or, rather, nobody really wants them with all their baggage from the divorce and looking as a 40something year old does. 40something men could get women in their 30s who haven't been married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:37 PM
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Because long rambling screeds about "men/women suck. they're beneath me. I'm better than all of them. I am the Superior Gentleman/Lady." aren't a debate and aren't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:34 PM
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Now that you've unloaded your anger and contempt at men, do you have a main point here or was this just "shut up, I'm better than all of you, I may have hit the wall but you never had a prime!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:33 PM
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They just don't. Even when they know they want someone. They're the passive and timid party to this affair. They resent that the man they like isn't asking them. It's just a biological/psychological difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:06 AM
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The whole "everything is a male power fantasy, except superheroes, which are male sexual fantasies" trope was tired in 2021.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:04 AM
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Please stop doing this. No, Superman does not get men's dicks hard. Not even gay men tend to have a fetish for him. It's not a sexual thrill for men. It's barely even a cognizable power fantasy because nobody at all can fly faster than a speeding bullet or leap tall buildings in a single bound. There are some men who could domineer like these smut protags, but "can spin the Earth backwards and turn back time to save the woman he loves" is just not physically possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:21 PM
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I'm not sure if it's a supply or demand problem. Both? Pornographers (as in, real-world human being actors) tend to make porn only for men. Even porn featuring men is largely aimed at gay men. Women also do not seem to like visual stimulation, even drawings, much and don't demand it. That creates a self-reinforcing cycle where what could rightly be called pornography for (straight) women is mainly just written and this naturally can't exploit people as much as filming someone having real sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:16 PM
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Actually true. Women at a primal level want this to happen. Maybe rationally they can think of how it's dangerous or suboptimal but their monkey-brain structure still wants it. Most straight women want to be dominated and like men who domineer or abuse everyone but them. Feminist theory requires women to make an excuse as to why they aren't purchasing pornography (it's just writing, it's a fictional character and not a real actor being objectified) because they think pornography objectifies wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:11 PM
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That's not really saying much. No man, not even Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth, gets the amount of attention a median woman does in her 20s because that's just not how heterosexual sex works. Men do the asking and initiating. Women won't even ask men they really like and want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:04 PM
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And everyone thinks that's shallow and horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:56 PM
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They're not doing their kids any favors picking deadbeat fathers to knock them up and then staying single for a long time so the kid has no father figure in his life at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:08 PM
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No, I mean abuse and mistreatment, not just "we didn't click". Incompatibility is even more of a "you really should have seen this coming" situation because you know what people are like by the third or so date. They don't hide it like abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:14 AM
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Maybe there are, but because women refuse to even look beyond the top 20% of men by looks, they wrongly think there's nothing. It's like someone saying they can't find a place to live for under $2500 a month and then you find out they refuse to leave New York City or live in a building built before 1960.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:59 AM
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The amount of abuse or just general mistreatment they talk about from men they were once wildly in love with. They then say there are no good men available. "Good men" here means "as physically attractive as the last guy who did me wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:56 AM
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The issue is that you're assuming the bottom 80% of men by looks are abusive by default. Sort through that mental block first. A man looking good does not mean he will treat you well. I think you sort of know that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:48 AM
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You can't say you'd pick a bear over a man and then be aghast that men say "okay, see how the bear treats you then".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:39 AM
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>Men are big mad that they can’t go to their circle of friends to get support and actual feedback. Umm, yes? It is fine to be upset you don't have a good social support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:32 AM
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There's nothing in it for men. One, they have a giant financial risk of losing half of everything they earned since marriage, which can happen if their wife gets bored of them. Two, it's no guarantee they'll have kids and if they do, same thing, family court will steal them from you and make you pay for children you cannot see. Most of what men want and realistically might get out of marriage, they can get without marriage. Sex is obvious in this day and age. Companionship is pretty much the poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:45 AM
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What's the breakdown of the rest? Mostly "they earn about the same amount" and very rarely the woman is the main breadwinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:24 AM
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If they were that unattractive, how are they getting multiple women to date them at the same time? This is cope on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:44 AM
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That's exactly right, though. Collective guilt on everyone with some trait is never accepted in any other situation. I can't rape or beat women any less than I do, which is zero, and other men aren't going to listen to me or 100 men tell them what they're doing is wrong. They know that. It's impossible not to know it's not approved of. They just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:37 AM
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Because not all or even most men end up on AWDTSG or Tea. The same few do, because a woman they're seeing gets suspicious or wildly insecure and snoops to find out if he's cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:23 AM
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Pancakes and waffles. I didn't say that. They are just WAY less able to do that. Average women mistreat average men routinely and it's excused because it is rarely violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:10 AM
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They can't. Average women have far more leverage to ditch an average man than the reverse, because new men are constantly throwing themselves at them. A man, even a good looking one, can't do that so easily. Therefore, women have less to lose by being mean, nasty, and abusive to men of the same looks level because they can find another relationship very quickly. Average women often do get mistreated by men way above their league because the man, in that instance, has the leverage and might just …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:00 AM
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Umm, no? Women have psychological and personality disorders too. Some that are just not tolerable or "quirky". You might have a point if a man says several of his exes was crazy. Anyone can realistically run into one toxic person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:11 AM
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Men grow up and exist in a world where they constantly have to restrict their behavior to avoid getting the shit beaten out of them. After one or two ass-whoopings in his childhood, men learn they have to play by the rules. Police and other men will also not hold back from doing violence to stop them if they commit a crime or even just act too obnoxious. Because we socially see violence against women as totally unacceptable, even when other women do it, women just don't develop this instinct and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:11 AM
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I think you're misapplying this. Yes, you can date people you were already friends with. Most men will absolutely not mind if a woman they're friendly with starts showing romantic feelings for them. Men cannot follow this advice. Most women are very upset if their platonic male friends try to make it romantic. "He was using me" or "only after one thing" or the like. It is also just very, very unlikely to work even in the short term and likely blows up the friendship with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:40 AM
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It seems like a very large amount of inceldom (and the violence/misogyny that springs from it) comes from men who are either "sorta wonky looking" or autistic/neurodiverse. Nothing is really wrong with them as such, they just have a hard time getting attention or playing the flirting game and it becomes a vicious cycle of "they think women hate them, so they don't bother doing anything to impress them, so women pay them less attention, so they think women hate them... We recognize that you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:24 AM
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The moralizing is by far the worst part. Acting like something is morally wrong with you and women pick up on that if you're unable to connect a relationship or get interest back. Known abusers and rapists have no issue getting more victims, though. MeToo probably broke this permanently because frustrated men realized all these terrible men had no issue getting more and more women and then abusing them but they can't even pull one mid-looking woman for whatever reason. Hard to accept that you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:35 AM
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And what do you know, women complain about the nice little examples of flirting drying up as they reach 40. They feel "invisible", which is just baseline for a man in his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:57 AM
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Quiet part? Umm, no, I didn't say you should be forced to do it. I think it's good practice to give one or two pity fucks (if not a casual sexual relationship like friends with benefits) with young men you might think are okay people who you might be friends with but not particularly attractive, simply because it's better for everyone to not have a ton of men running around who feel like no matter what they do, they just cannot get laid and no woman wants anything to do with them. That repeated …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:37 AM
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False, actually. I do think women should pity fuck more men, especially in their early 20s, just to get their confidence up. Be a FWB to a guy you might think of as a platonic friend only. Solve the problem before it gets out of hand. It's a lot of mental block about "why does no one want me" that leads to resentment. Even just one example against that can do wonders to get him to think he can do something about it and it's not the deck stacked against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:35 PM
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Well, yeah, but people do take that sort of talk seriously and see men's "preferences" for thin/short/submissive women as informed by misogyny. Nobody really gives actually disabled men the time of day when they complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:30 PM
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Women think men must have as easy a time getting a relationship as they do because all their relationships were with men and came to them with minimal effort. They don't see the other side of the coin. They aren't wrong that a woman who's single other than by choice REALLY has something wrong with her, because men will just offer themselves to you and some of them will be acceptable enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:23 PM
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A man running out on a pregnant woman/his kid controls only his own body. He does not make the woman or child do anything with their bodies. That's still not allowed or considered remotely acceptable, even by people who say abortion is a matter of personal integrity and autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:43 AM
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"Complaining about the friendzone" is them simply realizing you gave them the consolation prize without being clear and making it seem like you might start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:26 PM
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Wow. Did you get it all out? Did you pet Mr. Fluffykins super hard and have an extra glass of Pinot Noir? Feeling better?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:15 PM
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The man can control only his own body by "driving to the store to buy milk" and leaving you and the baby in the dust. But you're against that, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:12 PM
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Modern feminism has kinda ruined dating for the large majority of men. The "Don't hit on/talk to women you don't know, even in clubs where that might be accepted. At best, you're annoying her. At worst, you're being a predator. It's also very unlikely to get you a date, so don't even risk it" advice they've made has made it so only dating apps are acceptable ways to meet women you don't already know and these lend themselves to shallow judgments based on pictures only. It's very easy for hot men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:09 PM
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The incels aren't entirely wrong when they say that some, maybe even a significant amount, of men just cannot get a date despite their best efforts, and usually it is stuff like disabilities and racial "preferences" that holds them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:56 PM
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You're not wrong. They treat friendship as a consolation prize to men they *might* theoretically want to fuck but just don't. Men who can't even get dates and then it fizzles out into friendship are also not getting women to be platonic friends with them. The only real exceptions are extended family/coworkers/religious org members where there was no expectation of you having sex anyway and you're around each other a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:49 PM
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Nah, any man on here has stories of short relationships that had no sexual reward to them and they just spent a bunch of money on a friend who ditched them quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:16 PM
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That and hitting one long term relationship with someone even above your looksmatch is not proof that everything is fine. You just kinda got lucky one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:06 PM
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Read the replies. Overwhelmingly, women. One or two men mixed in doesn't change the general profile of who seems fine with not sleeping with their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:43 AM
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The point about "fucking women would make me a good person" is kinda why there are incels. If you say something is wrong with men who can't get laid, then they come to resent women who won't give them the stamp of approval that they're a good person and think standards are just made-up bullshit reasons not to give them what they're owed, being seen as a good and normal person. It gets really hard to not think women are shit and need to be taken down a notch when you think they're denying you stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:58 PM
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Source? Actually want to read more of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:40 PM
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Women get the slightest taste of what it is to be an average man starting around age 40 when men stop leering at them for sex and just benignly ignore them and they hate it and mourn the loss. Men are ignored by women they aren't related to/aren't working with. They straight up do not see you as a person. They barely see you as something in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:29 PM
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Her conclusion was unironically, definitionally, misandrist. She straight up said women are better than men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:22 PM
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Because it's not the only way someone can be a terrible, even abusive, partner. You're setting an insanely low bar. "I've never laid a finger on a woman in anger" should not be exceptional, because if it is, then yeah, you've kinda implied to this guy he deserves something for that. Of course, he doesn't, but this "be exceptionally good even though you will get no benefit from it" just makes men give up and say "as long as I don't physically hurt women, I'm good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:18 PM
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It's all blue pill women who barely even enjoy men saying it. There's the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:11 PM
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No, even your data shows a gap between the median of what women rank men and who they message most. It costs the man little to send one message each to a bunch of highly attractive women in the vague hope it pays off. You can't blame him for shooting his shot. If he gets some messages back (again, we don't know how many) from 3-4-5 women, we can't tell that from this data.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:04 PM
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Because they can only take what men actually exist, most of which they don't find super attractive, and the norm is that they don't message first so if only bland men message them, it's that or nothing. We don't know the exact number of messages in these data sets, either. It could be that men are sending out 10x more messages, and women only reciprocate that tiny fraction of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:49 PM
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Not what you think it is because you can only message the men that actually exist, not that you wish existed. Norms also dictate that men *usually* message first and initiate date plans, so women can only react to the attention they get, while men are, naturally, going to reach out to the best they think they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:24 PM
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You cannot help but engage in bad faith. I guess it's easier for your worldview to just-world-fallacy this and say the reason men don't find love is they're bad people who did something terrible and not that women are arbitrary and capricious in who they're attracted to and what treatment they accept. The other side of this cope is assuming that women who never find love must be just fine with it (they're not, they're often viscerally upset and masking it with friends, cats, and wine) or general…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:08 PM
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See? You are blaming me for her emotions. Anything can give them "the ick".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:02 PM
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If you're awkward? If you aren't 100% attractive? If she just gets a bad feeling for a second?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:54 PM
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There are plenty of other subreddits and hobbies to occupy your day. You're not being paid to be here. If you don't want to debate, don't, but go somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:50 PM
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Because men cannot be misandrists unless they hate themselves. Maybe you do. If I really had to guess, this is a sockpuppet account for a woman to air her misandrist grievances without getting called out for it. You're not a colleague, you're a colonizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:48 PM
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Half plus seven means the oldest you can be to date an 18 year old is 22. For a 21 year old, 28. It works *very* well at keeping older people away from minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:45 PM
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They were shown a photo and asked to rank how attractive they think the person is from 1 to 7. 80% of them scored under 3/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:41 PM
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It wasn't that you had those rights and then were stripped of them by "the Patriarchy", it's that men eventually decided by some combo of logos/pathos/ethos/threat of unrest to *give* those rights to women. If men really wanted to, they could take them away in an instant. It's not like women could realistically win a war for those rights against men. The Patriarchy is just another term for gender dynamics in the state of nature. Any slight step above that is because men in Western cultures have …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:52 AM
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Every single right women have has only come about because men have been persuaded to give it to them. You could not take those rights by force if you had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:47 AM
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Now here you are to lap up praise from the blue pills/women who will say "that's right, let my man cook" because you're reinforcing their priors. It's not true, but they like someone to simp for women he'll never know on here. Have they picked you yet? Have any of the fair maidens you've defended rewarded you with sex? Even if we assume you truly believe this (how sad that must be), what good does it do to say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:38 AM
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It kinda lines up with the edge of what I consider appropriate. 40 and 27 is pushing it but not entirely wrong. 30 and 22 is also pushing it but not dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:32 AM
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Nah, I think their ratings are a bit tough but generally fair. You look like the women that get called ugly, but know you're not a model, so you want to think they're average and the men are just being mean. It is *insanely* hard to be a true 9/10 or higher. Many women who generally look good are still just 6 or 7 out of 10. There's no real shame in that. That just means they need to revise their standards down to 6/7 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:27 AM
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Yet another non-argument. Blue Pill, and most women's psychology, relies on "you're so pathetic, shut up" as a retort because there *isn't* a counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:25 AM
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This isn't as sharp as you think it is because men are attracted to like 80% of women around their age (she's got to be pretty fat/autistic/disabled to get most men to say no), while women are attracted to 20% of men (you have to be excellent for her to even give you the time of day).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:23 AM
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Divorce rates are down, largely because people are waiting longer to get married or just not marrying if they don't have kids. They were 50/50 in the 1970s when you had a lot of people who got married at 25 or just to "unlock" sex and that didn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:20 AM
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She'll go to Chad's house on the first date. She won't even be at your house with other people around until 3 dates and after checking in with her friends every hour to make sure you haven't kidnapped her yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:16 AM
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Right. There are standards like "Do I think I'm in physical danger? Does he seemingly respect me as a person and care about me for more than just sex?" and there are standards like "Is he 6 feet tall? Does he make 6 figures of income?" and those are not the same thing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:14 AM
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Men do not "get stuck" in something casual. They either cannot get such a thing or the woman very quickly start pressuring them to commit to something more serious. Most men cannot simply decide to have casual sex. The sooner you learn that and internalize it, the sooner you get the dynamics in play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:12 AM
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Because it isn't *one* woman doing this. It's a lot, maybe even most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:10 AM
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That OKCupid attractiveness quiz shows it's actually almost exactly right. Women think 80% of men are less than a 3/7 in looks. Men think the median woman is a 4/7 in looks (so, about normally distributed, maybe even being nice).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:08 AM
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But it is very odd they all think the same group of men aren't dangerous, based almost entirely on looks. If you're not in that 20%, you get zero leeway and she thinks you're going to kill her as a baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:07 AM
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Or rather, if you don't like the way a guy looks, he's absolutely going to kill you and rape your corpse and how dare you be against me defending my physical safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:04 AM
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Explain for the class. Was it something like "women still swiped right when an attractive man's profile said first thing he was a convicted child sex offender"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:03 AM
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Because a man being short or fat or a nerd doesn't mean he's going to kill you and throw your body in a dumpster, Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:01 AM
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Women are routinely bad and nobody talks about it because most of society has adopted feminism as background ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:00 AM
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That's not how I see this argument being used. Once, and she hated it and never did it again, there's no expectation. She did it with him frequently but won't with you, well, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:51 PM
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Great post. The shitty lock/master key analogy, much as people hate it, is kinda the key bit here. Because men are expected to put in most of the effort of asking, and because men can't just have sex any day they feel like it, them getting a lot of sex means something positive about them. Because women don't have to ask, don't have to show off to get attention, and can just have sex with a rando if they really want it, it isn't an accomplishment for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:21 PM
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The vast majority of women have never done pegging, and it really doesn't do a whole lot for them sexually because you can't feel the sensation of a strap-on inside his butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:14 PM
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No one does more to uphold heteronormativity and say men cannot deny consent than blue-pill feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:09 PM
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Sex is something done to the receptive side. That's why you need consent. Because the woman is (generally) the one being penetrated. Her consent is the key factor in all this. The one common way men have sex done to them is giving oral and that's just fair if she gives you oral. Fingering her vagina is not equal to her fingering your butt, it's more like a handjob. If you finger her butt, sure, you kinda gotta be ready for that. Pegging is a rare fetish because you need special, artificial equip…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:06 PM
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How tf is someone you married not a part of your immediate family? That's kind of the entire point of marriage, merging your families together. Were your mother and father not family to each other because they weren't biologically related (or were they?)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:54 AM
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Are you trolling? OP, no, disregard this. Do not approach your female friends for sex. It will almost always not work and may burn the friendship you have with them. This has to be a woman pretending to be a man and inverting what works for her, if it isn't just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:42 AM
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Somehow, this "I'm so terrible. Boo hoo woe is me." response to criticism is kinda proving a point about women's advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:39 AM
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So how is this not saying that the man is responsible for your attraction (or lack) to him? If he were less good-looking or you thought he was awkward about it, then it would be harassment? How's anyone supposed to know that beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:52 PM
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You can't say this and then say the RP idea that some men are just doomed or 20% of men get 80% of the sex are wrong. You're reinforcing that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:48 PM
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I don't care if it's Tan France and he gives me the most charming approach ever, I'm not fucking him. He doesn't look bad and he's not "creepy" or "icky" (whatever you subjectively define that to mean), but we're still just not going to do that. This is, in essence, telling men that they have less than zero shot with you and it's kind of out of line for them even to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:43 PM
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Yeah, something about this comparison has never ever sat right with me. You can't say this and then say women do like men and want sex with them but need to feel confident it won't go badly for them and it needs to be with a man they're attracted to. Doesn't matter how good looking or charming he is, straight men aren't ever going to fuck a man. If that's how you think of men you are *not* automatically attracted to, then you aren't actually attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:39 PM
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The fat one is kinda on you. You should at least be able to tell she's kinda chubby, even through loose clothes. You fw that or you don't, but don't willingly get to the point of fucking a fat girl and then be mad she's fat. The other two, no argument. Women are hypocritical. They expect you to wash your dick so it doesn't smell like smegma and then if you don't like how their pussy smells, you're bad. Expecting them to do anymore than lie back and think of England is "porn brained".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 06:28 PM
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Most blue pill woman take imaginable. Shown you're wrong and you just shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:42 AM
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>57 >GF is 28 okay groomer, whatever you say groomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:30 AM
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Okay so hush. Men will approach you and (I'm assuming you look remotely decent) this isn't rare. You happened to be attracted to the man approaching you, so you didn't consider it "inappropriate". Doesn't work this way for men. You have to read the woman you're approaching's mind and know if she's attracted to you before asking or you risk being labeled an attempted sexual predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:27 AM
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I really do not give one goddamn that you think average or less looking men are somehow able to have high standards because you want to believe that's so. They cannot. They get what comes to them and take it or they die alone. Women have *all* the choice in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:48 AM
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If sex *is* a need, to the point it's unreasonable to ask someone to go without it so they don't have children they don't want, then it's a need to give men you aren't attracted to a chance to hit because you're being unreasonable in preventing them from having sex ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:46 AM
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But they're so hurt and so upset when someone says "eww, not a fan of Lizzo in a swimsuit".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:44 AM
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If the woman gets the choice to kill the children, the man having the choice to abandon the children is simply equality of opportunity, if not morally better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:43 AM
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You're conflating icky with scary because you've been trained by all social messaging of the past 15 years to see an unwanted approach as basically a prelude to sexual assault. You're scared by them because you're not attracted to them. Do I need to post the "hello human resources" comic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:42 AM
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Abortion is murder by definition. You're intentionally ending the life of a human being without any excuse of self-defense or proportionality to kill a valid target.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:38 AM
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Why? If you agreed to have sex, knowing you could get pregnant, then you can't be upset that the thing you knew was likely to happen ended up happening. You weren't forced into it at gunpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:37 AM
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Okay but you're 57. You could have done this when you were even 35 or 40 and that was still a socially acceptable thing to do. You are not a 20something year old man in the online-dating, post-MeToo era.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:34 AM
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When and are you a woman? It will not work for 80% of men. They won't get approached basically ever and no woman wants them cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:33 AM
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There's a reason "toxically masculine" men get laid a lot while the "enlightened" man who tries hard to be respectful and see women as his equal will have a tough time even getting a date. Women love it when you treat them like shit. They know they *shouldn't*, but some lizard brain structure makes women go wild when a man essentially treats them as a thing to be conquered and used for his pleasure. This "never approach me if I don't know you, don't hit on your coworkers, don't slide in anyone's…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:56 PM
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You don't ask the fish how to catch a fish. You ask the good fisher. Women do not *want* to have sex, at least not with anything less than the top 20% of men, so they subconsciously or consciously give advice that might work in a vacuum if a really good looking guy did them but will never work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:51 PM
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Except the point of including them in those places was to say men ought to find women that large beautiful and they're bad if they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:48 PM
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Not so. It's really insanely easy. We knew how to do it like 50 years ago+. Women needed to get married to have any sort of good life, and that meant they could not hold out for the perfect man forever or sleep around and simply provide for themselves. This ended up with nearly everyone getting married eventually. Now, women can be hypergamous and hyper-selective because if they don't want to get married, they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:47 PM
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If a woman doesn't want to be responsible for a child, she can close her legs. Weird how you can't see the clear comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:43 PM
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You're consistent at least if you also say women have consented to being pregnant because they consented to sex and if they don't want a baby, they can always not have sex. But you're not consistent. I see that last paragraph. Somehow the woman who consented to sex didn't consent to pregnancy because blah blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:40 PM
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Women didn't have the choice really until the 1970s. Before then, they'd be arrested for murdering a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:38 PM
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Well, yeah. Except you're not simply "abandoning responsibility", you're murdering an innocent baby because it's inconvenient for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:36 PM
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"Just don't have sex, then" "Just use birth control" "You accepted this risk when you consented to vaginal sex" All stuff you can never tell a woman who had an oopsie but pro-choice people will throw at men like it's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:35 PM
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That's not how that works. The baby will get put up for adoption and the pro-choice crowd will say since she did the work of bearing the baby, that's her choice again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:32 PM
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It's both. There is a dedicated effort to reach men who are lonely and vulnerable and feel aggrieved by right-wing influencers who see them as fertile soil to resent all feminism/equity talk and yeah lefty spaces can be mean to straight men, particularly if they're white.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:20 PM
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Yet they cry when men have shallow standards for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:12 PM
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I don't see it treated as hard and fast, but generally you do have to have at least one of those to qualify for more than the remnants and *that* is more in line with the 80/20 that's just basic red-pill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:41 PM
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Depends what the last six is. You can maybe know if your friends have 6-pack abs, you almost certainly do not know if your friends have 6 inch dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:39 PM
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But it does happen. The 6' or more thing is common on Tinder. The point is these are all superficial things that make it hard for a lot of men to date for very little benefit to the woman. The height and length aspects aren't alterable even with a ton of effort, so it's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:38 PM
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I do not think 2 is true in any developed country except China. Men, even in their 20s, are still more likely to die than women for almost every reason. The only age where there are more males than females is 0-5 and then, that early, men start dying out more because of accidents/violence/suicide/illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:34 PM
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Nah, the point about lesbians is well taken. They just do not want to fuck to the same extent as men. Biologically, in a way that cannot be overcome even taking pregnancy out of the equation (like lesbians).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:29 PM
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Of course it isn't. You might be able to move from a 5/10 to a 6/10 with enough gym/focus/style, but you're never going to get to an 8/10 unless you're right on the doorstep of it and then you probably wouldn't have too much trouble dating if that were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:27 PM
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That works if you're an ~average or better looking person. You can have some choices. If you're really not attractive, like the guy below you said, your acceptable standards are basically limited to "no former felonies" and "does not use hard drugs" and anything else is you getting uppity and you need to compromise. Women who are not visibly disabled/more than 50 lbs overweight are *never* in this situation. They always have other options and do not need to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:21 PM
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That and most men can only ever take what they can get. It's that or nothing. Being choosy is only an option for women and the 20% or so of most desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:14 PM
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Married men. Then, she can't really run off and find someone else over an "ick". Marriage is good for men because 1) they can reasonably know the children produced from it are theirs and 2) it means women can't simply leave them over a little issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:06 PM
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You asked one guy out once and never forgot about it. That or he asked you on a first date and you asked him on the second date. At the very most, you were already kind of friends and he didn't want to step over the line, so you decided to push for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:04 PM
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You do though because there are 5 other men available on Hinge, at least as attractive as you if not more, who will do the things you won't. A breakup of anything less than a marriage for a woman is an inconvenience, not a major setback.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:00 PM
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Well, got dam, sorry you have to do more effort on ANYTHING at all. You're not saying the things the man is expected to do more about are wrong, so I'm not going to say women being given the responsibility for children is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:57 PM
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Generously, women approaching men might be 5% of the time, your anecdote aside. Once you start dating, then the seal is broken and yeah women will plan some stuff. First contact, no, that's basically always the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:52 PM
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OTOH, 2 years of decent sex and intimacy beats zero. Nobody loves a man for who he is except his mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:50 PM
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That's a big one. Men go crazy/get miserably depressed without a gf because nobody else except your parents, maybe your siblings, gives one fuck about how you feel or cares about you as a person. Your friends are just there to hang out and do stuff with and don't want you to bring the mood down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:49 AM
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Women have to work at it but half as hard as a man. You're not perceived as a threat just being there. Nobody questions your motives for talking to them. This advice just doesn't work for the purpose given because men *are* seen as threats and *do* want something from basically any woman they chat up (a date/phone number at least) and women know it and change their posture accordingly. It's not *bad* advice if your goal is to make friends and be better at socializing but "attracting women for se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:39 AM
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I mean more if you've got like a lazy eye/drooping eyelid or bad acne scars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:33 PM
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Still probably better than most men's. Some dude will come along and overlook the ugly face/fat rolls because he's trying to nut and a bad looking but reasonably personable GF is better than no GF for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:06 PM
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What, you want people to carefully track how often someone swipes right and on whom? Tracking it in a way they're aware of would change their behavior and doing it without their knowledge is unethical/spying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:59 AM
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He laid it out pretty well. You get free meals, don't have to schedule anything or pick where to go, and another opportunity will come along quickly if you aren't feeling it. None of that is true for men and leads to women flaking out a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:54 AM
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That seems entirely inverted from modern experience. Now, 70% of men do have kids. 30% either get married but don't want kids or just stay single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:45 AM
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Being fit helps but there's no gym for your face. There's no gym to get around autism or anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:41 AM
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"Your profile is bad" is just a way for women to shift the blame back to men or say they're ugly without saying they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:38 AM
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It gets that way because women find someone in a couple weeks and delete the apps soon thereafter. Think how many people browse Zillow regularly and how long a house usually stays on there before being sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:58 AM
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Never tell someone that on the first date, probably not even the first few months of knowing them. That's a "very good friends" or better info.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:53 AM
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Cultural expectations differ. Those bums with 5 baby mamas are... all of a certain ethnic heritage, aren't they? A "small-town girl" in Minneapolis at a dive bar karaoke night? Couldn't be more coded to an entirely different culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:50 AM
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Because the only real route for most men, maybe even 80%, is BetaBuxx. You can't make yourself a 9/10 in looks, but you can earn more money. Women have an awakening around 30 that a decent looking man with a lot of money is better than no man or a chad with no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:46 AM
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That's the rule about work. You need to be in different departments, with different supervisors, and it helps if you wouldn't normally see each other on a regular day in the office. That makes "he extorted me" hard to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:32 AM
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The whole world comes into sharp focus when you realize sex is a commodity women have and men want. Once you see it that way, *everything* makes sense. Men want access to sex. Women give access to sex to men and hope the man likes them personally enough to keep coming back/stick around. Women can also deny access to sex to get a man to do things she wants. It's not "an activity two people decide to do together" because women don't seem as pressed if they aren't having sex and most women cannot g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:19 PM
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No, but if you're following your loins, then don't be shocked most (not all but most) of what you get is people wanting a cheap lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:13 PM
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Important note: you had to have been unmarried when you were 30. If you're not yet 30 or were already married by then, your opinion isn't really applicable here because you avoided The Wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:01 PM
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If you pick people because your reptilian brain goes "do sex make healthy baby must fuck now", do not be upset that all the other person wants out of it is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:55 PM
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This is really what The Wall is about. By the time women get to 30, they mature enough to know they're not as attractive as they thought at 22 and if they ever want to have their own children, time is running out so they need to find a guy they can live with rather than hold out for the chad of their dreams and miss the chance of having kids entirely. There's also just the "wilting lettuce" effect to being in your 30s. You're not as attractive. You can't pull the same men you did when you were 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:52 PM
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The point is, if you have all these tight filters and pick people just based on their looks and won't consider anything else, you can't be upset when people choose or reject you only for your looks or only want to smash once and nothing further.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:44 PM
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Probably smart to keep a couple close for the reasons you mention. They will invite you out/bring you to things where other women are. It's also social proof. If you can be normal around women you're not fucking/they actually want to hang out with you, other women will notice and it gets over one of their hurdles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:00 AM
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When sex was only for marriage (or you'd get married if you accidentally knocked someone up), and you couldn't just divorce on a whim, everyone was happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:56 PM
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They don't care as long as it's non-zero (and you're over like 22 when it gets weird to still be a virgin). Even 1 or 2, they see that as "you tried but it didn't work out".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:32 PM
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Right, but I'm norm referencing this here. Most people concerned about n-counts are in their 20s/early 30s and looking for a serious partner. 8 at 18 is a lot, 18 at 28 is also a lot but not quite as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:02 PM
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No chance. The 10 short stints are far worse because it takes two to tango and if all the 10 partners you've had are "bad at sex", maybe consider the one common factor in all of them. If you smell shit everywhere you go, check your shoe. The 2 means she's probably really good at sex and can pair bond (yes, it's real) better and not always be looking for the next excitment. She probably had good reasons for breaking it off with them if they lasted that long and not "yawn, I'm bored, let's see wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:58 PM
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A hole's a hole at some point. You don't understand how desperate men get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:51 PM
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Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. Pussy is the commodity here. If you increase the supply available on the market, the price will decrease. Dick's not an equal commodity. Women don't even actually want it (just look at them on this subreddit and think about why it exists). They give sex to men to get love/attention in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:48 AM
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Plus the "they'll take care of me in old age" thing just really was not true and we saw our parents not do that to any large extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:21 AM
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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. You mean to tell me a women’s vagina or “value” worsen when she sleeps around? Her vagina, not really (although, STIs, watch out). The value of sex with her, yes, good job, you understand the point of the analogy. You get why giving everyone $1 million wouldn't actually make us all rich, right? Now apply that to pussy. Same concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:10 AM
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I guess if it hurts your feelings being compared to a terrible lock, I'm sorry that it wasn't kind in how blunt it had to be to make it clear. People can hamster about why it's not right as much as they want, but we all *know* it's right internally. Nobody ever says you should actually want a lock that opens if you put any key in it. Nobody says a key that opens a lot of locks is worse than one that opens one. They only get mad because it doesn't join the chorus of yass queens that encourage wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:05 AM
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Unless you're getting married at like 18, "has hymen intact" is probably too high a standard to set, but don't kid yourself that any bodycount is fine or all standards on it are irrational. For the same reason that saying "I won't date someone who weighs over 300 pounds" is pretty reasonable and attainable but "I won't date someone who weighs over 100 pounds" is a sign of a mental disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:55 AM
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N-count of anything more than age-10 is the danger zone. Proceed very cautiously and expect to get your heart broken and need to take some antibiotics after the breakup. N-count of age or greater is just a bright red line in the sand with warning lights and klaxons telling you not to enter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:51 AM
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It's correct, and the response to it is never that it isn't correct, it's just that it's dehumanizing and mean to treat women as an inanimate object or say they're morally deficient for having a lot of sex with a lot of people and you're insecure and I bet your pp is small for even suggesting you wouldn't want to fuck a woman who had 5,000 partners before you. Everyone intuitively knows it's factually correct, it's just not politically correct because it explains why women's hypergamy is a moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:47 AM
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Either people are allowed to have preferences in who they date or they aren't. If height, which you can't control, is a valid one, then surely number of sex partners (which you can control) must be a valid thing to have a preference on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:44 AM
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If you've never heard about the lock and the key, I don't think this is the sub for you. In case you've ever wondered "how come if a woman has a lot of sex it's bad but if a man has a lot of sex, he's seen as attractive?", that one neatly explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:42 AM
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Why? Why are those preferences morally wrong but "I'm just not attracted to short men" fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:40 AM
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There is no reason, at all, ever, for a man to get in or accept an open relationship. It will never work out better for him, as much as he might want to mix it up a little from time to time, and a woman who proposes it is simply stating her intent to cheat on you but not lose out on the things you provide to her. If your wife is in childbearing age, it's fantastically stupid to do this because you're almost certain to end up raising another man's child for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:37 AM
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He married you because you were his best option and you were approaching/had hit The Wall and realized if you didn't take this one, you weren't likely getting another offer or would miss your chance to have kids entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:34 AM
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They do, they just have the sense not to say it to your face. That or they accept that your body count is high because all they want from you is casual sex and saying "if she's fucked more than 37 guys, she's trash" is counterproductive to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:22 AM
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Absolutely nobody is saying "if she had 2 previous boyfriends in the span of 5 years, she's damaged goods". Be so fr. The problem with a very high count is that she's very likely going to keep doing it and either cheat on you or leave you, no matter what she promises now. Plus, you know she's probably got STIs from all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:20 AM
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Any n-count greater than age minus 10 is bad. n-count refers to the number of people, not instances of sex. A high count means more than just that you like sex, it means you cannot commit to anything and will just leave me for the next thing to come along in a month. If you're 26, and didn't have sex until you were 17, 16 would give you about 6 months with each partner. Not liking my odds here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:13 AM
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That's not how I heard it used in that context. There, it meant people who are not exactly socialists or skeptical of this or that part of Marxism but in general applauded them for taking out the royals and trying to build a nation of equality for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:47 AM
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Either works as long as your goal is just sex. Betabux is an option. It's not really anyone's first choice, but it works if you want to get married/have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:44 AM
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Women don't care about n-count because of the lock/key thing. If you have a lock that opens when you put any number of different keys in it, it's an awful lock. As long as the key you have on your chain opens the lock in your door, you probably aren't concerned if it can open any other locks and don't even try that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:40 AM
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Imagine playing a video game and an NPC shows up out of nowhere and starts talking to you. Scary, right? It doesn't even give you a quest or helpful info or offer to trade, it's just trying to chat Women see men they do not want to fuck and aren't related to as The Help at best. They're there to stock the shelves or work on quarterly budget projections in the cubicle next to them or pave the roads and any of them actually coming up and talking to you is scarier than a bear walking right towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:41 PM
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Women don't even perceive men they aren't attracted to as real people. They're just background NPCs that do stuff and if one of them talks to you, it's alarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:25 PM
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It's "realistically appraise how good you look and take that into account because if you're not attractive to me, I'm going to be upset you even tried" So a lot of men realize they are average at best, probably less, and just never try.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:23 PM
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Anyone from about 20-30 now lost out on a pretty major year or two of key development because of COVID. That decade is when people party/learn how to date/look for their first serious relationships and missing 18 months of that because nobody was going to events is a pretty major setback.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:17 PM
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