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Yes, as we men usually do, we all gather in the locker room and talk about gratuitous sexual violence... Blood everywhere and gore and guts and woah, it's a totally life changing experience. You would be traumatized for life hearing even one word of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:37 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:35 PM
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"People don't care about what they don't hear" So you admit your boyfriend might not be okay with you sharing his own personal information behind his back but you do it anyways? That's called a betrayal. You are disrespecting him when you tell others information about him that is reasonable for him to want you to keep quiet about. Do you believe you're above the rules? Do you think this does not count as a betrayal simply because you're the one doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:38 PM
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It does not make you any less shallow if you're open about it. Just as it does not make your food any more flavourful if you admit there are no spices on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:31 PM
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We do have a problem with it. It's very disrespectful and you should ask your man if he's comfortable with something like that before you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:23 PM
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We do have a problem with you talking about us that way. And we don't find any taste in it nor do we find it respectful at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:22 PM
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Then being honest would make it less shallow from that which is more. It is just as shallow just more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:00 PM
1

Why does it have to be gossip they don't hear? Are you saying that if they heard it they wouldn't be alright with it? Is that not a betrayal and disrespectful then? Do you decide what another person feels about your "good" gossip without knowing their opinion? People with lives do generally care about people revealing their intimate details yes, I don't know where you got otherwise from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:59 AM
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Being honest doesn't make it any less shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:54 AM
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My life isn't centered around animalistic lust. Your life is the shallow and empty one with this mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:51 AM
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This is just ridiculous "women dumb man smart" talk. Projecting isn't a thing women do and men don't. It goes both ways. And "difficulty with abstract thinking" Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:48 PM
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The same is true for attractive women being pillow princesses. Yet those are the ones you also go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:35 PM
4

Abusers make sure that you suffer and then they present themselves as the only person that can make you stop suffering. They isolate you from everyone else and gets mad at you when you try to find other people that can make the suffering stop. So in the end you just accept that the least scary thing to do is to stay with them and hope that you can "fix them" so that they'll be as nice to you when they're love bombing you but always.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:33 PM
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However you could argue that southern HAWK TUAH type of girls are more masculine, and those certainly are attractive to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:27 PM
1

Right, that's the crux. Didn't read that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:26 PM
5

That would just change the scene she would do well in. "dating market" is too broad. There isn't one just as there isn't one store in the entire world. Some types do better in some spaces than others. An emo boy would do much better at an emo bar than at church wouldn't he? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:21 PM
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I don't think they actually mean they get the police called on them. I belive it's an exaggeration to make a point that they're really ugly/smelly or awkward or whatever so people get creeped out or very offended and offensive when he asks someone out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:14 PM
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At the same time there's a difference between saying "Your skirt is super cute!" vs "I'm picturing your naked right now" (yes, that's actual red pill advice i've heard you should say to a woman you're flirting with at a bar.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:50 PM
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Why would I want such a disrespectful attitude in my life? You talk about "this is how it is in the current day and age" as if you've reached some sort of meta awareness of the situation. Realize this: if someone accepts current horrible norms and standards without questioning it, maybe they're not that significantly above average in terms of quality of their character. There are certainly women who DON'T do this. What is the difference between them and the women who do? The real meta awareness …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:16 PM
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It really doesn't matter if you disrespect your boyfriend by talking about things behind his back that he might not be comfortable with... Women like you ough to stay single. For your own good. Eventually you will reap what you sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:03 PM
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where did I lose you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:01 PM
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This post has an 84% upvote rate. Clearly many men are as upset as I am about this shitty disrespectful behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:00 PM
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Stop assuming others want you to share their personal information with people he might meet, who might know his friends who know his family. You are the one going out of your way to share his information, stop assuming others are disrespectful like you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:59 PM
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See, why should he have to go out of his way to tell you not to do that? To me, before I found out how common this is, I would never even consider that my girlfriend would do that. It's on you to go ask him first if he's okay with you talking about that stuff, that's not something he should have to come to you for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:57 PM
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I never said I wouldn't talk to them? I asked why I should have to? Why is it expected of me culturally to have to ask someone not to reveal your personal information just because I'm a man? I would absolutely talk to them about this, and then if they said "I don't see why it's a big deal but I'll choose not to do it for your sake" I would kick them to the street for even considering that it was okay for even one moment. Why would I waste my time with such people? You don't seem to grasp just ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:55 PM
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Most men don't, genuinely. I don't know what trashy men you have in your life, but most men don't want their guy friends to have a description of how the love of their life's pussy looks like in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:51 PM
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You can be flattered. I don't care much. The fact that you would assume this is okay by hím without asking him first is disgraceful. Regardless of if it's "positive" most men don't want you to share shit with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:48 PM
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You don't want to be appreciated for your personality or good works?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:47 PM
1

From my own experiences I can't say I recognize that behaviour. I imagine it's cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:46 PM
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Point to me in this thread where I said I was against communicating? You seem to be arguing with voices in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:44 PM
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Uhm? I'm always polite when talking about people that I love? Is it impossible for you to believe that a person can avoid talking badly about others behind their back?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:35 PM
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You wouldn't say the sex was bad but you would say that it was bad? Why say anything at all about how it was, why not just ask for advice without commenting on how it is currently. Why discuss this without his approval? If you talked to your friend about you maybe wanting to peg him... That rumor could spread given that his friends might know your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:33 PM
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Any detail other than the fact that it happened is too much if you haven't discussed it with your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:30 PM
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The whole point about cultural discussions is shifting what is to what should be. Yes, of course this needs to have more awareness just as locker room talk has been Denormalized
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:30 PM
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It having been normalized does not make it good to any extent. It's seen as shitty for men to do the same towards women, it's shitty if a guy talks about his girl like that it should be seen as equally shitty for women to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:23 PM
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I've turned down many attractive women after entering the talking phase. Even if their personality was really good and their looks were incredible, there is this missing level of relatability to my life. Like we live in different worlds. There's a lot more to it than just looks and a "good" personality. It has to be one you click with in a very specific way. And some people are just way more picky than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:38 AM
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Read this comment section and find out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:40 PM

"I don't care" about what? This post has a 79% upvote rate, mostly by men assumedly. So you're saying that you don't care if men are uncomfortable with this, you'll share their sensitive information anyways? You are the disgusting one. You are sharing information that others are not comfortable with. You can use whatever excuse you want for your hypocrisy, men are not worse than what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:39 PM
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Nope, I haven't detailed a girls pussy down to the grooves of her lips before. It is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:35 PM
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Your examples have nothing to do with what I said. It should be a given that I don't want personal intimate details shared with others. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to confirm it with someone. They should be the one to ask first before sharing others information.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:34 PM
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Why should I have to tell someone not to reveal intimate details about me to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:40 PM
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Your absolute statements are clearly not resonating with many straight men given that they don't agree with you. Who are you to say what someone should find special or intimate. And yes these are vulnurable moments, and althought I stated differently before, there can be insecurities involved in someone knowing the details of you having sex just as you can be insecure about being naked infront of another person. I didn't say record, I said somebody watching, as in being in the same room as you e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:34 PM
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I meant, sharing things you have explored. I imagine you mean kinks and stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:29 PM
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Shallow? It means not very deeply, just touching the surface. I was referring to the amount of detail women give when they talk about it, and speaking hyperbolically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:27 PM
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Any detail that you haven't made sure he's okay with you discussing is one detail too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:26 PM
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I never said all. Most cultural discussions happen based on observation first. This is my own experience and hearing the experience of others that have brought me to this conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:25 PM
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its not that deep as they describe it. If it was really this romantic experience they would keep touch, its not like that sorta deep connection comes every other monday. it was just fucking pure and simple bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:23 PM
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As in, "did you...?" "yep" is how its normally goes when we discuss sex. it's not about anyone knowing if you have had sex, it's about knowing the details about it. But sure there are men who do that too, however at least culture generally sees it as bad by now but has overlooked how women do it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:04 PM
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It is disrespectful. Most women who do this would never do it infront of their boyfriend. They know deep down he wouldn't be comfortable with it. And if a dude talks like this about his girlfriend, he's just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:52 PM
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I hate to break it to you. They talk about the most recent events because they are the most current ones. Last nights hook up. Their boyfriends big dick etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:44 PM
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Gay men and straight men both agree that straight men tend to be very shallow with how they describe their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:43 PM
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Yep, you litteraly can. Do you believe there were studies on male locker room talk before women complained about it? What about rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:38 PM
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I'm glad we came to an understanding lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:37 PM
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You can make the same argument to just about anything discussed in culture. Did reality not exist before the study was invented?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:37 PM
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I don't even want a smidge of it being because of my dick. Why would I? Just like I wouldn't want them to know if I was rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:36 PM
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What? I don't understand what you mean by this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:35 PM
7

How should I know? It happens behind my back. I have heard women talk about this about other guys, I've heard women admit they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:34 PM
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I didn't say it was? I said I don't want to have referals that will attract shallow women to me. I only want women to be attracted to me based on my character and intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
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I don't want to be known for having good dick. If you do then that's up to you. I only want to be appreciated for my personality and my good works
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:32 PM
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I've heard it, I've heard women discuss it. If you read this thread you'll see women and gay men admit to it. How do you "know" male locker room talk exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:31 PM
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You can never be tactful in sharing other's personal information they don't want you to share. You can use whatever you want to justify your behaviour, but softening up the language doesn't make it less disrespectful. And when you say it's a mystery you are saying that there's no reason you see to be hung up over it. It isn't insecurity, just as it isn't insecurity not to want somebody to watch you during sex. It's a private intimate moment. You are sharing private intimate details. That has not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:30 PM
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What metrics? Do I need to cite a study on a topic people don't talk much about so that there have been no studies? Usually opinions form through observation, then discussion, and THEN studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:26 PM
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Yes, the internet , by which you mean social media, which is know to be an accurate representation of how people act in real life. I have only on rare occasions heard male locker room talk and that was only from the really shitty dudes everyone already know is shitty. So many women don't even understand that this is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:24 PM
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There is no difference, and neither do I care if you see it that way. Many men agree with me given this post has an upvote rate of 77% Do not tell others what they should be comfortable with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:19 PM
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Why would I want to get "referrals"? I am not looking for cheap hookups nor do I need these "referrals" I'm good just being honest to myself and attracting women by being a good honorable person. And I do not want others to know all these intimate details about me, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:17 PM
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Yes, I have guy friends. Never have we talked about the grooves and edges of the lips of a womans vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:16 PM
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I said they were both bad. But I think everyone by now understand that locker room talk is at least seen as bad. So many women don't even understand that so many guys are uncomfortable with this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:15 PM
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What is your right to tell a man what he should be hung up over or not? Who are you to say what one should be comfortable or not? What tact is there to, behind someones back, reveal information about them you understand that they might not want you to share with others?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:14 PM
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The difference is insignificant. Both are disrespectful. One is being disrespectful when talking about someone, the other is being disrespectful by talking about their intimate details without their consent. You can do whatever you want in your own relationship, it has nothing to do with me. But if a woman did that to me I would be upset
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:12 PM
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What is with your attitude? You responded to me saying "it's equally disrespectful" with "tell yourself whatever you want" How does this equate to "yes both things are bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:09 PM
3

Yes, and also ask your partner first if they're comfortable with this sorta stuff so that there is no confusion. Otherwise feelings might unintentionally be hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:08 PM
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It is absolutely normalized for women to talk about their sex lives with their friends. And this then includes describing the events of what happened during sex which I personally am not comfortable with if a woman I was dating did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:07 PM
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No? Not everyone will cross my boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:05 PM
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What does your sweaty concrete workers have to do with how comfortable I am having my intimate moments shared with others without my consent? It is absolutely disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:04 PM
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No, I can have my boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:02 PM
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See the hypocrisy on display. You will justify your own crossing of boundaries while criticizing men for their. Both are bad. I don't want a novel written about me sexually. This is a private intimate moment between me and her. I wouldn't describe every detail of her vagina to my friends. I expect the same from her Edit: i dont have a vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:02 PM
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i'm not you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:59 PM
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I thought about it, but no. Genuinely it's so normalized and seen as non disrespectful that it's become very common even among women who complain about male locker room talk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:58 PM
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That's wonderful and I don't have any opinion if this is something you're both okay with. But to assume this is okay without talking to your partner first is blatant disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:57 PM
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Having people see you as trashy is not an infringement on your free speech
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:56 PM
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I don't ever hear men engage in locker room talk, so I would say culture can evolve actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:55 PM
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It is the same level of disrespect yes. I would be horrified if I learned that the most intimate moments with my girlfriend has been shared with people I might even meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:55 PM
18

dude. I've been around many men and "locker room talk" is really only for the trashy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:54 PM
0

You're acting like it was anything more than two people using the other as flesh lights and dildos
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:47 PM
1

You would have ghosted someone? Dick move.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:46 PM
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Have you heard how women do? They write a novel to their friends about every intimate detail of the event that men aren't generally comfortable sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:34 PM
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I mean, by definition if you make someone wait for sex it's because they want to have sex earlier than you do. Women might also want to have sex but that doesn't mean they're as eager to before getting to know the person. There is much more risk for them involved so of course most of them are going to take longer to get comfortable than most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:32 PM
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omg this is brainrot in a thread...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:30 PM
14

... this is ridiculous maybe on the "alpha interviews" that interview the most trashy looking women and only include the ones filtered for ragebait. Most women would say that men deserve basic decency. Go actually ask one irl please.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:44 PM
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I don't think you have much experience with them. You really need to go outside more if this is your honest opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:06 PM
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You're right women aren't people, they don't feel afraid of rejection. Complex emotions are only for men because only men are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:28 PM
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It isn't a fallacy, typically bad things happen to bad people, whether self imposed or externally. They treat people poorly and so are treated poorly by people. Sure, there will be the occasional one who doesn't feel bad about it and gets no reprecussions, but most people wouldn't be happy in a mansion filled with people who hate you and are only using you for your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:11 PM
1

Yes, that might be one way to do it, an excellent alternative!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:28 PM
1

I just don't believe that it is required to sleep with many women to attract one good one. More physically attractive women are more likely to seek long term relationships, and your messing about will be a major red flag for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:21 PM
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The point of being a respectable man is that you don't require society's approval, only your own which is gained by acting out your moral values. Yes you can lie and cheat, and you will never get away with it. You will see everybody around you as an enemy and be on edge because you either win or they win. You'll attract people who are like yourself and all your friends will be enemies and your wife too will be a liar and a cheat. What's the point of living a miserable life that gives you lots of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:55 PM
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The point is that the Red Pill takes Biblical ideas and twists them for impure purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:52 PM
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It's sort of similar to a diabetic binging to get it all out of their system before starting their new diet. The problem is precisely the feeding your ego, because that is not true confidence. Many, many red pillers have deep rooted insecurity regarding their masculinity. Sure, they might have lower social anxiety now around talking to women, but they still feel the need to put up a masculine front because they don't want to look beta. They would feel deeply ashamed if their wife doesn't see the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:50 PM
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I laid out an entire post explaining why they are similar, if they aren't please explain your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:42 PM
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Why would having strong moral beliefs and standing up for what's right be less respectable of a choice than living for pure hedonism? And if it isn't, why choose to be a less respectable man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:38 PM
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Yes, all of this could be skipped if they just started with the Bible. A true practicing Christian is disciplined, courageous, kind, strong, and in control of himself and willing to stand up for what's good. You would absolutely attract many women by being like this, except you would also be less anti social, thinking of women as hoes for example. This would even make the quality of women you attract much higher. No self respecting woman will respect a man who sees her a hoe her man has under lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:37 PM
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It basically says to not be controlled by your lust but the red pill uses this concept and corrupts it so that you control your lust in some ways to express it in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:33 PM
2

The difference is living for yourself or for a higher good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:24 PM
0

A bit condescending but I didn't say they had social skills, men are just affected more by their lack of social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:03 PM
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Satan can convince you to sin for your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:02 PM
-8

Most women might not be on dating apps, but most men refuse to leave the internet. Even if they go out and talk to them, being distracted by videogames and social media has left them without interesting skills, Physical attractiveness, and decent social skills. We are living in the first generation to get panic attacks before making a doctor's apointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:33 PM
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no you do that cuz you're worringly scared of your partner. This should not be a concern with someone you're in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:37 PM
3

I mean it's not love if you wouldn't take care of them if they became a mute paraplegic. There's not much of a transaction there yet you help them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:36 PM
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i genuinely think casual sex is born from insecurity. The "chads" just want to feel validated in their masculinity by attracting many women. some are just not at all interested in romance but that's the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:34 PM
0

please never talk again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:28 PM
9

Creepy is an indicator that something else is going on behind the scenes. I wouldn't be surprised if many "adults" (lol) who date 18 year olds are also raping 16 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:11 AM
1

Are you implying that a 20 and a 14 year old isn't an age gap issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:45 AM
5

Are you implying that a 20 and a 14 year old isn't an age gap issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:44 AM
0

I mean the question is if its weird or predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:42 AM
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Before we used to think 12 year olds could consent, as attitudes towards age gaps changed we became less accepting of it. It isn't that 20 year olds can't consent, but that the rising age of consent is and obvious signifier that society is becoming less accepting of older people dating much younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:24 AM
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No, all across the world the age of consent for sex and marriage has been increasing since the 1700's. I'm not even American dude, even in India the age of consent was set at 18 in 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:17 AM
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Yes most don't, I mean that the ones who argue for it are almost exclusively older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:10 AM
0

Just logically, if this guy is going for 20-something-year-olds simply based off of their looks, he is litteraly going into it wanting her as a sex object. So it's really not surprising why it always ends up with her being used if she sees it as something more than just pure sex. That's why he breaks up with her when she turns 23 and finds the next one to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:09 AM
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And well, just logically, if this guy is going for 20-something-year-olds simply based off of their looks, he is litteraly going into it wanting her as a sex object. So it's really not surprising why it always ends up with her being used if she sees it as something more than just pure sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:08 AM
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I mean you can say this and yet society seems to become less and less tolerant of it every day. Either all of society since the enlightenment has been wrong or you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:06 AM
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It's somehow always that the ones who argue for there being nothing wrong with being in a coercionship with 20 year olds are always older men and it is always women who were in these coercionships with older men arguing against it... Funny how that works isn't it? EDIT: Syntax
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:04 AM
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Is he "allowed" to be put in a gimp suit and be ridden around like a horsey? Yes. Is it still creepy? Yes. Also, if he's "dating" 20 year olds he's also going for 18 year olds... And at that point, if she was 17 three months ago and you're the age of her father, you are fucking creepy dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:01 AM
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I think we would be much worse if we got that amount of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:43 AM
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I think men are a lot more willing to change if you give them an honest chance. You have done plenty of great work throughout the years, and many more will follow if we just get over this hurdle. Many times men are just simply not aware that what they are doing is wrong, nobody's ever told them. They might be resistant at first, yet if history is correct and feminism has made any progress at all, they have taken their time to learn. How about this, the next time you hear a feminist, man or woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:29 PM
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Ì did, and this is one trend among years of this climate of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:16 PM
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I think you have the wrong attitude, but I think you're a good person who wants the best for everyone. In the end, the only way forward is through union and working together. Neither side will get what they want if they do not work together. We are in tumultuous times with Nations such as Russia and China who would like nothing more than for us to be divided and be conqured. We cannot afford to weaken ourselves just for the sadistic satisfaction of hurting the ones who love us. If men and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:04 PM
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And I think you're wonderful. I hope you find God someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:00 PM
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Because you mock them and jeer at them when Jesus taught us compassion and patience for those who have gone astray.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:51 PM
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And you can hide behind literal words against the implied words. The truth is that when this is the discussion around men that women constantly have, you are treating men as a group of predators that are more dangrous than bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:44 PM
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Sorry if I didn't articulate myself properly, I mean that women must do these things if they expect men to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:38 PM
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It seems you misunderstand. I do not believe that feminism should be about men, I believe that feminism must stop antagonizing men and masculinity in ways that is not beneficial for either men or women, but especially men. If you don't do this you will be pushing men away from your ideology and into the arms of somebody who isn't antagonistic towards them. And also, that if you want men to be feminists, then you must also be male right's activists in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:09 PM
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When feminisim is perpetuating the poor treatment of women, it collapses on itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:04 PM
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Not if it comes at the cost of poor treatment of men. If one ideology can't succeed without hurting another group in an unjustifiable way, then that must be corrected. The actions become worse as we push men away, if the goal is for feminism to succeed then this line of action is very much counter productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:51 PM
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Those who stood up to defend against the psychopath murderers and narcissist rapists were certainly not weak. But they started out weak, like anyone else, as children. Yet nowadays they are not allowed to grow into strong men and so the evil men who committ atrocities because they are weak now become even weaker from social media rotting their brains and the ones who were supposed to stop them have been pacified.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:47 PM
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I never said it should. Before you criticize other's ego's you should look within your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:33 PM
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Yes but through the compassion shown towards men, a kinder discussion could be had between men and women about what is fair and not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:19 PM
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Well I agree, feminism does bring about postivie progress on its own as well, you're right about that. And as a feminist I am worried that this way of demoralizing men is going to push them away from the movement and into the arms of evil men like Andrew Tate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:17 PM
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You sound like a feminist explaining why men need to be antagonized. You don't want peace, you don't want the betterment of society. Jesus said love thy enemies, I will pray for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:07 PM
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And you are a different side of the same coin, antagonizing feminists like they antagonize men's rights activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:53 PM
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I never did say that I would not support causes that don't benefit me, in fact I am a feminist. I made this post to save feminism from its own failure causing men to move away from it. I ask that you stop insulting me and being as rude as you are, I have not treated you with the same disrespect. And as for the feminine men you adore, is it a coincidence that they are all either handsome, rich or famous? I never even mentioned an aesthetic, I said personality wise. Cockiness is considered toxic f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:40 PM
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I try to love my enemies as Jesus has instructed me to, I am a feminist, I'm posting this on account of young men being pushed away from this ideology that is supposed to be good for mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:32 PM
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Do you call out other women when they antagonize men? Do you stand up for the belief that most men are not bad? If not then you are allowing the suffering of men to continue, you are allowing the oppression of men by women. If you were a feminist you would want men and women to be seen equally, and if you will call out when men speak poorly of women then you would call out when women speak poorly of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:34 PM
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Feminism comes about through comfort of society, not the other way around. And as I've stated, your method may have worked in the past, but if you know anything about the future it is that it is not repeated by the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:18 PM
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They are not anymore. If you'd care, you could read statistics on how young men's views of feminism are changing in recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:17 PM
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They are written.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:16 PM
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Because shit flinger must be given pearls if they are to stop flinging shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:13 PM
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Your own irony is greater than you. You think your help would come in the form of some proactive proclamation of helping men. You'd already be benefiting men if you stopped calling them an embarrasment for standing up for themselves and not misinterpreting their statements. From my knowledge, that which I know you will superseed with your own, I am a feminist. I have been a feminist for a very long time. And as a feminist I want my ideology to grow and succeed. You are standing in my way. You ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:12 PM
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Yes, of course you do. Your fundamental ideology would not exist without men as a target of change. You want men to change their ways to benefit women. In a world with only women feminism wouldn't exist. And so why continue your hypocrisy when it actively harms your ideology? Change your ways to help men, then when you've done that you can expect the help from men to change their ways to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:06 PM
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Yes, those who I help with my kindness. Who have you, so bitter and resentful as you are, benefited from being born? If none at all then why were you born at all? It is better to cut out the hatred than be destroyed in the fires of hell when you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:04 PM
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Then why do you expect men to support you? By your own logic you should just already be supporting men and not expect help back in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:02 PM
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And for how long does the churning machine keep grinding men until they leanr to stop tossing themselves into the funnel? You have enabled the change that a man like Andrew Tate is now attractive for men to follow in the climate you have created and is ever growing in popularity. Good luck in the future for your feminist agendas when you have nothing but hate and contempt from the other side you want to change. Justifiable hate and contempt because you hated them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:01 PM
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Seeing men standing up for their suffering as oppression is exactly why none will follow your heed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:58 PM
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I'm sure incels and terrorists had their experiences as well. This changes nothing, Hypocrisy and Contempt will not make men support you. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:57 PM
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You know bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:52 PM
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I will continue to love others and bring peace to those that I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:34 PM
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Said the lamb entering her own slaughter house "I believe it will be good and so it will be."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:32 PM
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I want western society to survive, and as a feminist I am constantly dissapointed by my peers who condem men for actions they did not take. We are entering into a decline started by social media, fueled by feminism starting around 2012. Rape will rise, murder will rise, all evil from both men and women that should not be seen in such a civillised society will be witnessed by those prepared for the best by ignoring the worst and condeming the good. The good men listen to feminists and meeken them…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:31 PM
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You will, society will fall all around you and you will. You won't tell the rubble of you not caring about it before it smacks you in the face after an explosion. You may not care, but you will be dragged into the future you least desire as much as anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:27 PM
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Because any society that will survive will only do so through the unification of their men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:25 PM
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Comparing men to apex predator bears and saying you would rather meet a man eating monster than the average joe, I would say that that is antagonistic. And you are not more opressed than a homeless man eating out of garabage bags.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:24 PM
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Who asks for praise? I ask that you actively support men if you want men to actively support you. It's the foundation of any healthy interaction. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:22 PM
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Men are told from childhood that being too masculine is toxic, and so they adjust by becoming ultra feminine in fear that they transgress against feminist ideology. It isn't men who put them in that position, this isn't a personal failure when it is seen on a societal level. Your problem then would be that you call men who want you to stop antagonizing them "selfish assholes". Do you not see the irony?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:18 PM
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When you call men "oppressors" and position yourself as their enemy, why would they accept guidance from people who don't like them? Realise that your help will be seen in the form of not actively positioning yourself against Men as a group when the majority of men simply go about their lives trying to live decently without harming others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:13 PM
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I am talking about any feminist that will antagonize men for the actions of psychopaths that men also hate. If you want to see men stand up for women against men who hate them then the solution will be that women stand up for men against women that hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:10 PM
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I see your point, However, the cessation of antagonizing men would be helping them. Just as the cessation of a stabbing helps the victim. The help can be in the form of calling out other women who antagonize men. Once men start seeing that there are feminists who wan't to stand up for them when they are demonized for actions of other men they hate as well, that's when they will start warming up to helping THOSE feminists, and in turn will be more active in engaging with feminist ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:04 PM
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You expect men to be good feminists, yet you don't expect yourself to be good men's right activists. This is the fundamental problem as to why men won't bother to help you anymore. And it isn't arguable, eventually the only men who will be successful will be those who don't waste energy helping those who demonize them and refuse to help them in turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:00 PM
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You calling men who have done nothing wrong "oppressors" is actively antagonising them. There are absolutely men who are more oppressed by society than you are, and these men who are oppressed by society more than you will hear you call THEM the oppressors and think "to hell with you, liar." Then you compare them to bears and say that they are worse than bloodthirsty apex predators that can crush your skull with one bite to "express your frustration"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:59 PM
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They can stop slut shaming men who sleep around by calling them "community dicks" while criticizing men for slut shaming women. They can stop saying that they would rather meet a bear in the woods than a man. They can stop talking about rapists and abusers by saying "men rape and abuse women". No, we don't. Some men do. The fact that you refuse to make that distinction clear and obvious and then say that us clarifying that it's "not all men" is offensive to you, this pushes us away because you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:54 PM
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"If you have to coax and cajole women to believe in men's suffering then it's not worth it." This same line of thinking is why men reject you and focus on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:42 PM
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is that selfish attitude conducive to a long term intimate relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:47 PM
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It's not systematic that blow job leads to eating out. I would refrain from calling someone a selfish person as a whole because of one thing you percieve as selfish that might just be ignorant. Every person is selfish some times the question is how often and how much is intentional and about what. I think asking is nothing wrong with it. Maybe pushing their head down has been wrong, Just never heard anyone talk about it poorly, Will have to adjust for it in the future and ask if they are comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:38 PM
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Yes maybe you're right, the only thing worse than wanting to kill yourself is meeting somebody that supports your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:23 PM
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the puzzle continues...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:08 PM
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You misunderstand. Men put in effort when penetrating as well. We want to please, we want you to love our dick and feel like sex gods who gives you the most mind blowing sex in your life. When penetrating they are doing a lot for the womans pleasure. I do not disagree that women go down more than men. The question was if women can complain about a man's sexual performance when she expects him to know how to give her an orgasm and not communicate it or actively participate in giving her one. Blow…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:04 PM
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she can be very passionate of you giving her dick
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:57 PM
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then what is it that seperates two women, one who makes him cum and one who doesn't when they are both participating equally little? If women can be bad at sex then this applies to them not being able to give themselves an orgasm as well. It isn't all on the man and it shouldn't have to be. He could want his partner to participate as well rather than doing 90% of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:55 PM
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which leads to the question of, what seperates a woman who just lays there and makes a guy come vs a woman who lays there and doesnt make him cum? Luck? How hot she is? How good the man is at giving himself pleasure with her body when she doesnt participate? I think when talking about skills at sex its hard to say "being hot" is a skill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:52 PM
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then she needs to man up and help herself. This is not a feat men are psychically able to induce in women by their magic powers or something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:50 PM
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I think you date poor men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:49 PM
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"i would say its not okay to be okay with not making your partner cum" You misunderstand, I mean he thinks that might be enough to make her cum and might be surprised if it isnt, especially when a lot of the time the only feedback a guy gets is a false orgasm. Which really doesnt help him understand. "i can't think of how a non-selfish person would rationalize getting head but not returning the favor?" I think this would be selfish yes. But if he initiates a blow job and she doesnt initate sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:48 PM
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They think about their partners pleasure in many ways but especially young men struggle with oral. Giving head is not the only way to participate. When the man is controlling every other part of the interaction, you can't say that sometimes giving head or maybe not is equivalent to that. In some ways guys will be selfish, I'm saying that judging a man as being poor at sex when the woman in question is often doing just about nothing is wrong. Not that guys are sex gods and women are bad, but that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:44 PM
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"i genuinely don't believe women are talking about men who are like "what do you like? how can i do better?" Im sure the anti social ones are discussed in greater length but average guys tend to be discussed as well. Not by every woman, but enough that it could harm his reputation and hurt his future chances. But not just the ones percieved as assholes, also the inexperienced ones trying to learn are often trash talked and not asking what you like is no reason to speak poorly about someone. If i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:41 PM
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Im not one for gossip, if it was bad i dont try to ruin her reputation for it. If she starts the conflict and I try to defend myself then I'm in a battle against someone who'se been playing this game for 10+ years vs me just starting out. I belive in beginners luck, but if i was lucky I would have never been born in the first place. And if I was skilled I would have stopped before we even got to the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:33 PM
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Then if a woman cant get a guy off in bed she's bad at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:29 PM
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You've never given a guy head when he asked you or because he asked you? Because those are two very different claims. If the guy isnt aware its very hard for women to cum from piv then he might think he could get away without oral. He might be caught up in the moment and not think about it. It's just that most guys get headjobs after initiating it first. It's not usually the woman to initiates, and so it might be more common for women to get it if they initiated more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:28 PM
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The problem is when you keep encountering pillow princesses and they then trashtalk you and the rumor spreads making it harder to hookup in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:07 PM
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How often do guys ask for oral vs women? I think that's an important factor to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:04 PM
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Yes, I was thinking about this as well. No doubt this is a factor to consider, however I think when you weigh that against men being the one moving constantly for 30 minutes, picking position, figuring out if they should rub the clit or not at this moment. If they should use dirty talk, and how much and so on and all of this they just have to hope they get it right. It becomes very taxing mentally where so many guys who are a bit more insecure struggle to enjoy sex nearly as much as they could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:59 PM
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its pretty obvious this is true though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:49 PM
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If two men cant get eachother off, who's bad at sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:46 PM
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What's this grinding motion you mention? Is the penis just still while you grind on their clit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:45 PM
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