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If you want a guy over 6ft, then don't compromise Agreed. Narrow your dating pool. If you want a guy earning over 6 figures, then don't Compromise Agreed. Narrow your dating pool. If you want a guy who pays for everything, then dont compromise Agreed. Date men who are traditional and have expectations in line with gender roles. Enjoy your outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:02 PM
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There are two huge barriers: Most women don't want to do that. Most women don't make the income to support a family. Because it's not feasible to pursue, most men write it off as an acceptable goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:55 PM
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Lol k.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:27 AM
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What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:02 AM
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That's as specific as you can get, seeing as how women aren't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:46 AM
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Oh wow a lesbian that hates men. In other news...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:08 AM
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Lying doesn't get me what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:59 PM
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Women are more abusive in relationships than men are. Women are more likely to divorce than men are. Maybe y'all should leave men alone, for our sakes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:47 PM
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Every woman is different. Every lifestyle is different. I've met 60 year olds who still look fabulous. I know 20 somethings that have crashed into the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:45 PM
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I play it straight - making up a whole persona is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:43 PM
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It's status. It says "I can get this man who is taller than everyone else, therefore I am better."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:41 PM
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Protect this woman at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:40 PM
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Just date other women then. Shut the fuck up and enjoy your ridiculous divorce rate and let the women who like men have us. Jesus fucking Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:46 AM
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Id date people I found attractive and that fit my values and lifestyle. You know, how I date now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:50 PM
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Lol you don't understand how free markets work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:38 PM
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But they don't, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:30 PM
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You absolutely can trade sex for money. This is a silly take.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:26 PM
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Sorry I thought that sarcasm was creating a puddle on the floor
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:56 PM
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Blaming women for men's audacity is a new one. People are responsible for what they accept, nothing more nothing less
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:28 PM
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Thank you for demonstrating why the person you're replying to is 100% correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:05 PM
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Since when did asians were seen as stupid and illiterate? Well then. Thanks for contributing to that 21%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 09:06 AM
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The whole women are racist towards Asian women, thats why they look down on ppb Not my argument, learn to read for comprehension before you start crashing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:17 AM
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What the fuck does that have to do with the post you replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:00 AM
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It's a free market. Don't like your outcomes, offer a better product or a lower price point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:03 PM
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You are clueless to the reality of dating for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:17 PM
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Inferring motive is a dishonest way to argue, but you've been doing it this whole time so why stop now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:10 PM
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Well the reality is when you do all the things society tells you to do and you still lose it is hard not to fall into despair. And when you compound that with the fact that some men are genetically disadvantaged (they're not tall enough, they're not strong enough they're not smart enough, etc) the usual advice of "try harder" is a slap in the face, especially since it always comes from people who haven't had to try as hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:08 PM
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Cool. You're arguing against something I never said so...go off queen? I'm sorry that I'm not giving you the argument that you need. Maybe find someone in this thread that is taking the position that you have such strong opinions against.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:59 PM
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This thread isn’t about your preferences. It isn't about my preferences, you are correct. You seem eager to bring it up but it just makes you seem unnecessarily defensive. There are people here who are fast to assume that because you take a position in a debate that you support that position. I'm preemptively putting that to bed. There is a fact based position, which is that morality (and preferences) are subjective. If something is subjective, then the "facts" surrounding the value judgments ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:58 PM
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It's like saying "I dont like people a certain race" And now you make another fallacious argument. "I don't like promiscuous women" is not equivalent to "I don't like a certain race" because promiscuity - unlike race - is a choice and not an immutable characteristic. Your analogy fails before it even gets out the gate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:54 PM
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Well since it is subjective, then it’s perfectly right for women to sleep around and have a high body count. I don't care. The problem that we see is when those women find men who have a problem with it and demand that those men abandon their preferences. The point of the post is to help educate people who can’t This post isn't trying to "educate." That implies that there is a fact-based position that people are either unaware of or purposely avoiding. This post is arguing about opinions and pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:51 PM
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I asked you a very simple question and you have avoided it twice now. You're asking a question about something that I haven't weighed in on because I do not care about it. I only commented to point out a user's dishonest position. You're taking my example of fallacious reasoning and pretending that it is my position. Stop that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:47 PM
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You have a valid point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:45 PM
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I'm not making that argument. The argument that you are replying to is me explaining that you cannot logically infer motive. Are you going to address that or are you going to keep purposely missing my point? If you have a problem with me repeating myself, stop asking questions I've already answered. You're welcome to find any point in this thread where I implied that women were not free to make whatever sexual choices they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:29 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:24 PM
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sure, they prefer to not have any competition That's you inferring motive. they prefer to not be insecure thinking her ex might have been better at sex That's you inferring motive. You aren't here for debate. You just want to argue about your feelings and I'm not going to indulge you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:23 PM
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Dating, itself, has no moral value assigned to it. It is the actions that people take and the situations that assign it moral value. What one person might deem acceptable would be taboo for another. In this case, "women who have lots of sex" (to stay on topic) are evaluated differently depending on who is observing. There are those who encourage it (i.e. place positive moral value), those who are neutral (i.e. place no moral value) and those who are against it (i.e. place negative moral value). …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:21 PM
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It’s just to abandon putting labels of “right” or “wrong” onto individual preferences. Morality is subjective, and actions can be labeled "right" or "wrong" based on the observing subject. You can still prefer a woman with a low body count without saying that a woman with a high body count is wrong Yes. You can. And some people can remove moral judgment from the actions. Some people can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:16 PM
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I think you missed the point. I was using that position to show that inferring motive is unable to be logically demonstrated and that doing so is dishonest. I do not care about the sexual activity of others - I do not control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:13 PM
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I think you missed the point. I was using that position to show that inferring motive is unable to be logically demonstrated and that doing so is dishonest. I do not care about the sexual activity of others - I do not control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:13 PM
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Dating is amoral. This entire thread however, is an attempt to get men to abandon their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:11 PM
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You posted in two places, yet I'm not allowed to? Noted. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:11 PM
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I am all for debate. You haven't provided a logical reply to my comment and instead just want to argue. I don't argue with women, children, or idiots. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:08 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:04 PM
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Men are allowed to have preferences as well. Your position is inherently dishonest because it infers motives that you cannot reasonably demonstrate. It is the equivalent to a man saying "women just want to be sluts with no consequences."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:01 PM
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Men are allowed to have preferences as well. Your position is inherently dishonest because it infers motives that you cannot reasonably demonstrate. It is the equivalent to a man saying "women just want to be sluts with no consequences."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:01 PM
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I didn’t “avoid the point”: EVERYONE selects for attractiveness first from humans down to sea horses. Lots of words to agree with me. SUSPICIOUS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:05 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:48 PM
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Women are attracted to good looking men. Whether or not they're good or bad only factors in after. Also if we're only hearing about the breakups and that would mean there it has to be a relationship in the first place doesn't it? Women ☕
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:27 PM
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No, your post is dumb! (See, I can be an infant too) No shit people would take the more attractive option out of two men all other factors being equal. That wasn't ever in contention. The point in contention - and the one you're working really hard to avoid - is that women (despite their propaganda) select for attractiveness first and then other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:31 PM
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“Im a good boy! Why am I not getting a girlfriend?!” Is not the mindset of a good person. It is the mindset of a good person who is adhering to an ethical code at personal expense while watching people be rewarded for acting in contradiction to that code. Especially when that ethical code is imposed upon them. An example divorced from the dating world is how you can work really hard at your job, while watching everyone else take 2 hour lunches, come late, and leave early with no consequences. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:27 PM
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The look bar YOU GUYS care about is “How hot can I be for women to not care if Im a piece of shit”. When you're done crashing out against fictional men and their made up standards, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:10 PM
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The looks bar isn't "deformed". Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:06 PM
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Oh I'm sorry, you're right. Let's wholly avoid my rebuttal and argue over shit I never said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:05 PM
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Literally none of this is relevant to my post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:03 PM
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Oh look, you're arguing against a point that wasn't even made. Personality is a factor after attractiveness. The way people select is by picking partners they're attracted to and then determining if other things, like personality, are also agreeable. I don't know why women are so invested in bullshitting themselves about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:01 PM
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That was never the claim. You sure did kick the shit out that strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:57 PM
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It's not hard. The argument isn't whether or not women like attractive men, is whether or not attractiveness is the primary factor they select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:56 PM
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So Im not strawmanning You absolutely were. You presented a position that I do not hold as my own. Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:52 PM
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One of his victims wasnt a woman, but okay Irrelevant I didnt know being a pimp under investigation was a flex to the redpill community. Nobody said this. Quit strawmanning and engage with the point. Thats sarcasm It's snark, and it's all you've got because you can't argue the point. being scum of the earth So we both agree that Andrew Tate is a Very Bad Man™? Good. Now will you explain why women, knowing that he is a Very Bad Man™ still willingly chose him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:47 PM
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You're avoiding my point. I get why you're doing it though. Most women won't admit that they evaluate a man's attractiveness before they even think about his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:06 PM
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Except women werent attracted to Andrew Tate and Donald Trump. Their outcomes don't agree with you. Trump is rich Still counts. Tate relies on being a pimp Women chose him. Thanks for proving yourself wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:02 PM
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Except the woman will choose the attractive misogynist over the unattractive good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:59 AM
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Yes, and not taking precautions increases the odds. Let's talk about it in the context of a different crime. Which one is more likely to get your car stolen - leaving it locked in a garage, or unlocked with the keys in the ignition?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:54 AM
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Red pill only deals with intersexual dating dynamics. That is the only thing it comments on. Your critique is like being mad that your car doesn't make color photocopies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:09 AM
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No. We're just sick of hearing "Women care about personality more than looks", which is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:55 AM
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Only women would see being treated like men as "hate". I always say that the two most defining days of a woman's life are the day she realizes that she can use her sexuality to get things and the day she realizes that she can no longer do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:52 AM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:22 AM
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I don't argue with people who are not living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:10 AM
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You are purposely ignoring women who get with known abusers just because they're hot I'm not gonna deal with your level of delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:02 AM
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Good is a primary trait that women look for insofar that it is the absolute bare minimum. If that were true no abusers would ever get in relationships. Women routinely choose attractive men over good men. Reality does not bear out your point try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:52 AM
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No. I don't care if we all die off. Millions of species have gone extinct, we aren't special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:42 PM
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We don't say "Chad is bad". The most we'll say is that "it doesn't matter if Chad is bad because 'good' isn't a primary trait that women look for."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:41 PM
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Women do like kind men...provided that they are attractive first. Being kind let's you stay at the dance, being attractive gets you invited.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:40 PM
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I'm good with this. Let's keep this energy for the women who aren't getting the relationships that they feel they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:31 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:25 PM
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Yes/no All men give women what they want if they aren't aware of how women operate. The difference between attractive men and unattractive men though is that attractive men get what they want as well. I will agree that ignorance of how women operate will inevitably lead to being taken advantage of, but attractive men have the luxury (pretty privilege?) of moving through the world blue pilled because they won't suffer consequences that unattractive men will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:17 PM
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The only men who get used are unattractive men. Attractive men get what they want from their investment of time and resources. It's an unfortunate reality that women will often make a man she isn't attracted to do more than the man she is attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:12 PM
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Every relationship except the parent/child relationship is voluntary and - as a result - conditional on the involved parties being satisfied with the exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:10 PM
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Waste your time if you’d like to reply! This is such a broad and ignorant statement this is an idiotic statement Your answers seem like you’ve met a total of three people in your life. I’m sorry you’ve had bad luck with women. This is why I don't argue with women. Have a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:03 PM
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Uh huh. Sure. Whatever you say. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:06 PM
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Please find an example of a passport bro advocating for this. The fact that you have to portray them as pedos to argue against them says all we need to know about the validity of your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:41 PM
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LBH?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:37 PM
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Man had a hard time finding hookups before feminism. There's a Gulf of difference between a partner and a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:49 AM
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I am. It's like having a permanent backup roster. If I'm feeling lazy or don't find anything interesting out and about, I fire up the tinder machine and usually get a good hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:15 AM
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Okay, Whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:04 AM
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I'm not reading this wall of crashout. And make no mistake - you're crashing out at the idea that there are men who don't want the life that you place so much value in and choose to live by their own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:01 AM
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No. The real reason is that passport bros are men who reject western women entirely and women cannot handle that kind of rejection. The worst part is that it isn't rejection from Chad. Women can handle that. They're used to it. What they aren't used to is the Middle Manager Marvin completely bypassing them as an option. It's a blow to the ego. They thought that those guys would always be around as a fallback plan only to have those men go wheels up and never look back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:44 AM
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I fully encourage every woman who sees men solely as income to avoid us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:42 AM
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Is there some aspect of social rejection? Sure. But how bad of a deal do western women offer that a man gets on a plane and spends thousands of dollars to find something different? I think that's why women hate passport bros so much - they see it as the ultimate rejection from men who, in their minds, should be fighting to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:41 AM
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They don't want those men romantically. But they do want those men to suffer in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:37 AM
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Why should we care what the women who don't think we're worth dating think about what we do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:33 AM
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I used to be broke and skinny. Now I'm not. Now women want to have sex with me. Not a hard concept - become a man that women want to fuck and they'll fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:32 AM
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See item 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:07 AM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:06 AM
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Literacy rates: USA: 79% Thailand: 98% Philippines: 98% People here can't even fucking read. Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:31 AM
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Sounds like a great way to catch an STD. You're more likely to get an STD from one of these bar skanks. Still loser behavior. Yeah, having the disposable income and time to travel internationally to get what you want rather than being forced to settle for whatever the local women deem you worthy of having sure is loser behavior. Still paying for sex. Yeah. Let's instead lock into a state-enforced subscription service with one woman so we can have the privilege of having all of our income go to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:12 AM
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This is it right here. Either way we're paying for it so we might as well get more of what we want for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:09 AM
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Well, the places you mentioned have the same problem - women thinking that they're entitled to top tier men who look down on average men as a result. Also, there's a bit of a racist element at play when Western women assume that women in other countries are somehow less educated or stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:08 AM
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I don't listen to women when they criticize the hobbies of men. They're just trying to shame us into benefitting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:37 PM
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Most guys they see a girl they want a sentient sex doll and if she's actually a person he's offended and leaves her. Sorry that's been the experience with the men you attract. What gives those expectations ? Boobs. I prefer a flat chest athletic body. I'm an ass man. Remove boobs, no problems for women anymore. Women's biggest problem is other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:03 PM
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His overall satisfaction with his life. The more comfortable he is being by himself, the lower his tolerance for people who detract from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:28 PM
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Your peace cannot come at the expense of another person’s peace. You do not get to decide if you remain in someone's life. If someone decides that they're done with you, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:43 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:56 AM
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Women are only loyal to their emotions. Women don't have to accept accountability because there's always some simp happy to remove it from them. Arguing with women is a waste of time. Women cannot respect you if they cannot admire you. Women would rather have a piece of a winner than all of a loser. You can't bargain, negotiate, coerce, or demand attraction. You either become what women want or lose to the men that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:53 AM
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Nice try FBI. But seriously, there's a rule with every man you'll ever meet. He could be the most down-bad incel to ever exist, and if you do this one thing, he will leave you. What is it? Don't put yourself in a position where he has to choose between you or his peace. That threshold looks different for every man, but when you reach that point, he'll just look at you and decide he's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:43 AM
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Except when you do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:21 AM
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Why are you here? Weren't you satisfied with the absolute fucking roasting you got last time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:20 AM
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You're gonna have to explain how this works, because from here it's looking like a non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:59 PM
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That's not a problem that I have
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:16 PM
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That's not a problem that I have. But your response tells me a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:16 PM
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Accountability: dodged
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:52 PM
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What a tone-deaf take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:23 PM
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What a well thought out reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:22 PM
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Two things can be true at once. Women can have genuine concerns about their safety and they can be incredibly stupid in their partner selection and choosing obviously bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:21 PM
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First, thank you for addressing the point. I rescind my earlier comment about you being a liar. You said this, meaning women in general are not woth the chase, right? This is correct. Not that women are worthless, but that they aren't worth the level of effort that they demand from men. So, what are you expecting? I don't expect anything. People (men and women) either assess their outcomes and adjust their behaviors or they don't. are you expecting women to change for you or....? I know better t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:05 PM
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If you're willing to compete There are really only two choices: compete or die alone. it means you still want this prize, We want a prize, yes. But not all prizes are created equal. That's the problem I'm discussing - we compete and there aren't enough women worth competing for. it has some worth to you. There are women out there worth it. Most aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:53 PM
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If you care to address my point, sure. I'll give you a chance to try again instead of getting in your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:51 PM
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So you want women to be better for you 😂😂 right, good luck That's you, taking it personally and being passive aggressive. I'm done with you, liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:32 PM
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You're the one who took it personally and lashed out. But you do your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:29 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:41 PM
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You know how I know that you can't argue the point? You resort to strawmanning. I get that you felt personally attacked, but that's a you thing, not a me thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:11 PM
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HONK
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:30 PM
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I can get behind gander equalety but fuck geese.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:47 AM
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We don't complain about competition. We complain about competing for worthless prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:25 AM
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This is a stupid reply. There's still time to delete it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:23 AM
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& I don’t cheat. This is what she doesn't understand. Plenty of women offer what she does (and without being an OF whore) that don't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:19 AM
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You aren't a good woman if you cheat. Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:17 AM
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Well, that's because you're a cheater and you want people to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:16 AM
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I have never read something from someone with the "blue pill" tag that makes me say "fuck yeah." But I guess today is the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:16 AM
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Quiet cheater no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:04 AM
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Well, thanks for making me vomit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:48 AM
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If I were to take you back you'd never be anything more than a place to put my penis. And our relationship would end the second I found a woman who treated me with the respect I deserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:47 AM
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I love that everybody in here - man and woman, red pill and blue pill - are just roasting this woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:47 AM
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Female attention is a valuable commodity There are three billion of you. You are not special. I'm just telling you now, don't let anyone in this thread talk to your man. We'll open his eyes to your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:46 AM
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I don't think there is another girl my boyfriend could get that do what I do. You don't offer anything unique and you come with the burden of being an OF prostitute and you fuck other men. Sexually and romantically I do stuff most other girls wouldn't Again, you offer nothing unique. Blowjobs,facials,swalloing,cockworship,roleplay,ddlg,submission,costumes,rubs, compliments and so much more I don't need the menu of your paid services, thanks. I also let him spend time with other girls Which he do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:45 AM
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an my onlyfans does ok WHAT?! Girl please. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:43 AM
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He can get all the things from a woman who doesn't cheat on him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:42 AM
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It sounds to us like you're trying to justify cheating on your boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:42 AM
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I like how you're a blue pill woman responding to a purple pill woman about what men want and desire. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:41 AM
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This is a terrible straw man. The fact of the matter is if you want a monogamous relationship or is predicated on is that you only have sex with your partner. If your partner's out there having sex with other people you're not in monogamous relationship. Now if you want an open relationship that's one thing, but in this context the relationship is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:41 AM
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in vino veritas If she cheats when drunk, it's because she wanted to sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:39 AM
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No. In the history of easy questions this has to be the easiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:39 AM
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I made zero assumptions about you and only started talking about you once you brought your personal experience into it. Save your bullshit indignation for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:20 PM
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the vast majority of women are not the manopsphere caricature of being shallow hoes but the ones left for us to go for kind of are to some extent. The overwhelming majority of women are, as the kids say, "chopped". And that's okay. Men and women have very unrealistic standards of beauty and behavior that they demand from their partners yet are unwilling to meet themselves. We want the best, we don't want to be the best. You date the people you deserve. You deserve it because it's all you qualify…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:24 AM
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You ever meet someone too dumb to know when they've been dismissed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:15 AM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:06 AM
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Okay, whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:03 AM
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I'm not. You took it that way. I explained what I meant and you didn't want to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:02 AM
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Uh, that's the answer. The cheater is to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:01 AM
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I blame the person at fault. Gender is irrelevant. My point was that people choose extremely attractive partners and don't think that there's going to be competition for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:48 AM
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No, it assumes men are snakes Well, good luck with that. It's got to be exhausting hating an entire gender. Does this work for men too? If his girlfriend cheats on him, does he get shamed because he didn't choose an uglier woman? HAHAHA men routinely get blamed when women cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:38 AM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice night
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:07 AM
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All religions are equally valid. That is to say, worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:48 AM
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I'm absolutely judging them. What I'm not doing is imposing my judgement onto someone whom I don't have any responsibility for or obligation to. They're free to live their life. What I'm free to do is determine if I want them in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:47 AM
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Happens
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:09 AM
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i’m pretty sure i’ve interacted with you before I do not think we have. are you the guy who suggested that the way to fix the male loneliness epidemic was for the government to put pressure on younger single women, impose financial and social regulations on their lives, and keep them out of the job market so they'd be forced to pair up with lonely men? Hell to the fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:59 AM
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I don’t feel empathy for people thinking i should be property It's a strawman to present men who don't have sex as men who see you as property. If they saw you as property, they wouldn't be incels. I don't ask my property for permission before I use it. But sure, i’m the bad person for it Didn't say that. I just said that having empathy for others who are dissimilar to you isn't a bad thing. I also don’t feel empathy for rapists, serial killers, terrorists, if we’re on a topic. You mean people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:40 AM
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You're free to make your own choices. I'm not personally attacked by how you live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:33 AM
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That I'm sympathetic to the problems of groups I don't belong to? I don't have problems dating nor finding sex. If you're capable of only feeling empathy for groups you belong to, it's not empathy, it's self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:32 AM
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Like I’m treating incels with negativity because there is nothing more to it than their hate and self pity. I wouldn't treat incels with anything except admiration. These are men who are respecting the rules of society and consent of women to the point where it's harmful to their own mental health. Compare them with the men who have given up on rules and consent, and you know what I see? Strong men who are misunderstood and mocked by the very people they want to be loved by. Yet every day they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:17 AM
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The scale says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:05 AM
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an incel redpill loser You're telling more about yourself than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:04 AM
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he's also kind of rapey. You're safer with a red pill guy than you would be with these male feminists. At least we're upfront about what we do and don't want. Those guys feign being allies to get you to drop your guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:02 AM
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You'll have irrational assholes in every group. I don't judge feminists by the most vocal women because I understand that. As I said, red pill doesn't demand adherence to any ideology or course of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:00 AM
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Cool. I'm impressed that you allowed the people who are pushing a narrative for their personal profit to shape your opinion. I mean, you could have had a discussion but I think this is a far better way to debate - make assumptions about people and pretend to know their motivations?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:22 AM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:09 AM
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Okay. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:37 AM
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Let’s just say that the short guy who doesn’t have a gym bod that I have been married to for twenty years is the one who knows what to do. Good for him. But you guys would call him a beta simp. I only call men who simp simps. Being kind to women and returning investment isn't simping. But thanks for telling me what I believe. I didn't know you could read minds. Good thing you’re not getting laid like he is, right? I'll let my girlfriend know that we aren't having enough sex to meet your standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:37 AM
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And that's why he pointed out the distinction that single women have sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:35 AM
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No, it's just a waste of time at this point. I'm here to debate and you just want to argue. I don't argue with women, children, or fools. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:33 AM
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Yeah but then the endgoal is what ? He was clear: Single = \ = celibate That's a counterpoint to OPs argument. Either OP goes like "oh yeah actually I meant celibate thanks !" Then the correction is made. or OP straight up did not make any sense since their post would only make sense if they actually meant celibate Or, as it has been pointed out, the OP erroneously assumes that women only have sex in relationships. I prefer to have a bit of faith in people. I read what they write and don't prete…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:28 AM
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Uh huh. Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:25 AM
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He did not correct OP. He made the distinction that being single is not the same as being celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:16 AM
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You just can't stop. Then dance on your own and find joy in that. And you miss the point. Are analogies difficult for you? They're already dancing alone. If you can’t love yourself how can you expect others to love you? What meaningless tripe. Plenty of people love themselves and it's still not enough. There are people who hate themselves and still find partners. The amount of love you have for yourself is an irrelevant factor in finding a partner If you can’t compel someone to love you, then ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:15 AM
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Still on that bullshit. You cannot compel someone to love you through effort. There are plenty of deserving people, men and women, who will die alone simply because they don't meet some arbitrary standard. You can be the best dancer in the world but if you never get invited to the dance, it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:10 AM
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Quit your bullshit. The context is not about forming male friendships - this is about a lack of intimate relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:07 AM
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Women don’t all sit around in the same place fucking the same 3 guys It's cute that you pretend that women don't run in circles and interact with roughly the same sets of men but that's cool, Go off queen. Not all of us know each other. Wow not every woman in the world knows each other? No shit. The only Chad I ever slept with was easily the worst lay. And because of his poor performance I bet you're not inviting him back? Thanks for proving my point. I like how you took your one experience with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:06 AM
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You don't care about the male loneliness epidemic. Edit: I'll even go so far as to say I don't care about it. Is there a male loneliness epidemic? Probably. I don't have data. What I will say to any man who is suffering from "loneliness" Is that most of his problems are probably of his own making. Barring physical disability or mental deficiency, every man is just a little bit of effort away from improving his situation. Always tell my red pill bros "stop focusing on the things you cannot contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:02 AM
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I'm going to call cap. Your position is making two assumptions that are really damning to the female gender: It assumes that women are stupid. These women are willing to literally share a bed with a man but they don't have to wherewithal to realize that he's not with them exclusively? Even I give women more credit than that. It assumes these women don't find this man attractive enough that other women want him. They happen to get with men that are so ugly only they want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:00 AM
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We're not mind readers. If somebody says "single" we're going to assume they mean "single". If they meant somebody who's not having sex there's a word for that and that word is celibate - which they did not use.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:58 AM
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Maybe theyre not attracted to men? Weird energy to suggest someone sleep with someone they have no sexual attraction to. Not very liberated of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:56 AM
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genuinely single That's an intentionally loose and undefined term, and you're expecting us - the guys these single girls fuck - to accept what you - someone these single girls don't fuck - say. Sure they may be holding out a relationship for someone they're genuinely attracted to and genuinely desire. But until they find that man they're opening those legs if the man is attractive, discreet, and doesn't make them feel bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:55 AM
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Untrue! We know that women gossip and a Chad with a poor performance record doesn't get as many opportunities as a Chad that can make a woman cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:53 AM
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😂😂😂 No, these women are probably not picking up random men or on the apps. You know where they are though? Friend circles, and casual acquaintances, and repeated run-ins.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:50 AM
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That's it right there. And it's funny because OP doesn't get it at all. Like, she can't fathom the notion that these intentionally single women are still having sex. The overwhelming majority of sex I've had has been with single women who choose not to have partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:50 AM
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That is an extremely weird question. Even the most misanthropic person sees themselves as a person. I apologize if the way we discuss things isn't to your liking or up to your standards of what a person should say or think. We shall try to perform in a better fashion for you m'lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:47 AM
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Why? You see the "red pill" tag and make all sorts of judgments based on your preconceived notions. Being red-pilled is simply about having a realistic look at the dynamics of dating. It doesn't ascribe any moral value to anything, it's not a proscriptive sets of beliefs or demands that we have to adhere to, And it's not even about hooking up. All it is is simply helping you understand what's happening so you can make better decisions and get the best outcomes for yourself instead of allowing ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:43 AM
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Men know that women fuck around at their leisure and don't think hard about it. The red pill even tells you this. If you're hot enough and you don't make them feel judged, they'll fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:33 AM
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Well every person is different, obviously. But the general idea is that when women start out earning men, they start treating them disrespectfully because they don't see them as men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:52 AM
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You ever been in a relationship with someone who thinks that they're more important than you just because they make more money than you? Well, that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:30 AM
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I, for one, am shocked that women want to have casual sex with hot guys who don't judge them for it. It is an outcome that I couldn't have seen coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:32 AM
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Okay. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:28 AM
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Okay. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:28 AM
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It absolutely was a false premise. Sorry that you got called out on your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:13 AM
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That doesn't answer my question. Your question got lost in your bad faith argument. Please clarify. I didn't, sorry if that's inconvenient to your agenda. You did. Don't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:12 AM
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If your question is a false premise, it's fine to ignore. Don't like it? Don't lead with bad questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:12 PM
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Cool false premise. Rape threats and child porn are wrong and the vast and overwhelming number of men don't defend them. Also, nice equivocation fallacy, putting rape and child porn on the same moral level of women gossiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:11 PM
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[Citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:57 PM
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I'm gonna keep this response for the next time my actions cause injury to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:04 PM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:34 PM
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This is the answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:14 PM
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This guy dive bars. /Raises shot glass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:09 PM
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Did you forget to switch accounts there bud? Not very good or cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:08 PM
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This post is just one long-winded, unfounded ad hominem. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:05 PM
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Men don’t want a woman who is better than them, Women are the ones who refuse to "date down". Men aren't as picky in that area. they also don’t want to better themselves. Plenty of men are doing just that... But they also want the high quality, attractive women We all want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:01 PM
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Men don't feel emasculated by a woman who makes more than him. Women have this tendency to emasculate men who make less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:00 PM
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We know most of you don't find us attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:52 AM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:52 AM
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Funny how you find a way to run your mouth even when nobody is talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:51 AM
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This is a very disjointed post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:35 AM
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What a stupid comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:34 AM
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Yes, y'all are. But your outcomes aren't my business nor my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:31 AM
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Blue pilled men are drowning and insisting they're fine. There was a time I'd offer to swim out and pull you to shore, but now? I've got other things to do. Have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:24 AM
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The contempt of contemptible men is an honor
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:00 AM
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for every thread you make, you have an ever changing bar at which you choose to interpret and engage in arguments rather than the one you set from the jump And that's why when I see this user I immediately dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:57 AM
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heavy drug users women. That's an immediate disqualification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:31 PM
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Lol fuck no. I'm the first one to tell my friends to lose the weight and do some personal grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:25 PM
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Okay whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:54 PM
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Plenty of unbroken men out there. We can't make you choose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:56 PM
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Quit pretending that's what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:56 PM
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most of yall on that were average at best. And yet women are losing their minds over these men. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:50 AM
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They cheat at the same rate until women hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:48 AM
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You won't get a reply to this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:47 AM
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Is there an app on the app store for men like this? Women also have their own group chats. Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:46 AM
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Mathematically you're full of shit. Unless you can demonstrate that a majority of men that exist are on the app, quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:44 AM
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Men told us to choose better Still applies. Maybe you'll start doing it. now we are trying No, you're gossiping and pretending that's trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:44 PM
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Breaking out the classic "blame men for women's choices".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:40 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:39 PM
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Hey, if you're happy I'm not gonna shit on you for it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:09 AM
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I mean, if I am BP that just mean I won quite easely without the need to tap into RP and with morality as a bonus If you're having difficulty rejecting women, you haven't won.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:05 AM
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No, women don't like sharing. Sure they will compet for the same guy but they don't They don't like sharing, but they'll do it. Well that's the reason the dating market is miserable. And people will be surprised if the state start putting rules to regulate this mess The dating market is miserable because people aren't honest about it. The government already does have rules - what do you think marriage is, if nothing except a way to control pairing and mating? Women stop thinking clearly when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:29 AM
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Oh you sweet summer child. I like those initiatives since it help women avoid sharing the same man. Women don't mind sharing attractive men. That's where he must decide if he will commit to one and reject the others or if he will start playing He doesn't have to decide shit. If the dating market gives him options, then he's free to exercise them. I have to admit that women are really strong seeing how easely they can reject a man. Women are fucking retarded for men that they're attracted to. Rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:42 AM
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If you want women to be safe, then do the one thing that will actually matter. Report rapists to the police. Or you can just promote a gossip app and watch your fellow independent women see hawt guys, ignore the red flags, and make terrible choices. Idgaf what you choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:38 AM
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You painting it as only "red Pilled males" being upset is disingenuous and is purposely avoiding the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:31 AM
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Most women are ugly as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:01 AM
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This app isn't accountability, it's anonymous gossiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:59 AM
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Tea is bullshit and women who use it to "hold men accountable" are full of shit because they fail to do the one thing that could actually hold bad men accountable. Report them to the police. Tea is a gossip app, nothing respectable about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:58 AM
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Notice how you haven't had one guy in this thread defend this behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:56 AM
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Men literally cannot handle being held responsible for their own promiscuity, they believe having to maintain a reputation is some kind of "m1sandrist" hate crime. Yes, because anonymous accusations is truly accountability. Surely, women would never lie about a man, especially if that man rejected them. Surely. The main critiques I've seen in relation to this whole scandal are basically "well what if the woman lies???" Uhm..so what? The fact that you are not only okay with, but justifying women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:19 AM
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Expectation is often at odds with reality. Despite expectations there are people who don't produce value or who produce so little that it might as well be nothing. This isn't something new or novel concept - society has a way of rewarding those who produce value and punishing those who don't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:32 PM
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Doesn't refute my point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:28 PM
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Those adjectives don't get applied to unattractive men. "Funny", "nice", and all the other adjectives are only applied after the attractiveness test. Otherwise things like "funny" become "awkward" and "nice" becomes "nice guy™".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:01 PM
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This smells like apex fallacy. I'll agree that this applies to the narrow subset of desirable men but for the rest of us society reinforces that if we aren't providing value, we aren't worth the air we're breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:56 PM
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That's an option. Id prefer the bot for customization, convenience, and avoiding all the problems that come with bio-girls (even the paid ones still have issues).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:42 PM
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Does that answer my question? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:40 PM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:15 AM
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It means that man has something that a woman wants. Most men are not born attractive, they grow into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:09 AM
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I'm not solely talking about committed monogamous relationships. Chad has plenty of women because he has something they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:08 AM
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This is a valid concern for any woman in a relationship with a man. This is because he is a man that a woman wants and logic says that if one woman wants him then he has something that is desirable to other women. If this man were a single man it would not be a valid concern. If he had anything that was desirable to women he would have a woman. I'm not saying that men have infinite options. The woman who suggested this is suffering from "Apex fallacy" where she sees the top 20% of men as stand-i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:47 AM
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No gender is inherently replaceable in dating as the split is roughly 50/50. An argument can be made that the things that men want from women are, generally, easier to find than the things women want from men though. In that regard, a desirable man is far harder to replace than a desirable woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:45 AM
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Obviously that's not a partner. I don't buy a washing machine because I want a partner. I buy one because I want my clothes washed. I don't buy a dishwasher because I want a partner. I buy one because I want my dishes washed. I don't buy an oven because I want a partner. I buy one to cook my food. You know what all of these things have in common though? They make my life significantly easier. If I buy a sex bot, I'm not expecting "partnership". Moreover what would I gain from a "partnership" wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:06 AM
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That's more a referendum on capitalism than it is on the actual economic value and price of car production. The raw material cost of producing cars is dropped while the quality and amenities of cars have increased. I'm not saying that you're wrong about the outcomes of what will happen when sex bots enter the market en masse, but I am disagreeing on the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:05 AM
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Most men aren’t gonna wanna date a Tesla CyberFuk. Yeah. I mean, I'd hate to have a customizable sex partner that fits all my parameters, plays with all of my kinks on demand, doesn't ever have a "bad day" or "just not in the mood", doesn't complain when I have other women, doesn't demand my time when I'm wanting to do other things or be left alone, doesn't have unspoken expectations, and will never get fat or lazy. That sounds like hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:00 AM
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The reason it is held over your head is because we men don't use it as a weapon whereas women do. You pair that with a constant outsourcing of duties traditionally associated with women and all that's really left is sex, which is mercilessly used as leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:31 PM
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I disagree with your economic perspective. Then if you consider the cost of a personal computer when they first hit the market as opposed to now, the price difference is astronomical. Once we cross that threshold where they can be mass-produced, it's over. You pair that with the removal of the stigmatization and most men will happily pay $10,000 to $15,000 for a reliable sex bot because they will done the cost benefit analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:24 PM
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They're just creating an environment where the top tier men will have access to women and the rest of the men will have to use sex robots. In the scenario only the men win. The top tier men will have free reign as they always have and the bottom tier men will have a viable alternative than trying to compete for those women who don't want them in the first place. Sure they will be attempts of women to shame those bottom men into playing the game but it'll be grossly ineffective - those men will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:22 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:46 PM
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OP purposely avoided addressing what I said. Just like you're doing. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:31 PM
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Think about it, if a woman is horny and then decides to "maliciously withholding sex" from you, then she would technically be depriving herself of it as well. What sense does that make? This is the fallacious thinking that I'm addressing in my reply
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:24 PM
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My point was clear. It's the point you've been avoiding. If you want you can go back and look at my original reply and then try and reply to that. Otherwise I'm done with your dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:51 PM
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You ducked my argument entirely because you can't address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:47 PM
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If a woman is able to "withhold" sex then clearly she doesn't want it enough to actually engage in it. This is a bullshit argument. People deny themselves things they want all the time. If a woman truly was in the mood for sex then she would have it, regardless if shes upset about domething or not. Engage with my argument. Can you please try doing that instead of arguing against points I'm not making? The idea of having sex with a man when she is not in the mood and only does it out of "duty" ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:46 PM
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The premise that the OP presented is that both parties want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:44 PM
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So you view sex as a favor that women do for men? Strawman. Please be better. You going to actually engage with my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:01 PM
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If two people want the same thing, but one person wants it more, then the other party has an incentive to withhold it - especially if the party that desires the thing more will make further concessions. Quit trying to gaslight us with this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:25 PM
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I'm sorry, is there a group of people who don't leverage their power in a game with no established rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:25 PM
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I'm gonna blow your mind. Everyone is motivated by the idea of reward. Nobody undertakes actions with the desire for punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:24 PM
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Id prefer to have sex with the woman I'm married to but if the options were: No sex Sex with other people I'm gonna be fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:19 PM
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You advocate for men to be sacrificing and giving without wanting anything in return. What a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:14 PM
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Is this an argument to justify women not taking accountability? I'm confused as to what you're trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:02 PM
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because you don't get your dick wet? It says a lot about you that you think the only thing men want in return for their efforts is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:33 PM
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Good men want good for other people even if they don't get what they want themselves. I'm quite happy being a bad man then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:18 PM
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Okay whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:19 PM
0

Okay whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:17 PM
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Okay whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:13 PM
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Wow what a unique and insightful observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:31 AM
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I've always argued that men who are naturally fall into the top 20% are the most blue pilled men of all. They don't have the experience or frame of reference to understand what the bottom 80% of men go through - their entire life they've benefited from being at the apex of male attractiveness. When you've spent your entire life being the top 20% you've never had to swallow red pill because the blue pill models of dating work in your favor. Every action you take is seen in a positive light and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:54 AM
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Threatening a non Christian with hell is like a hippie threatening to blast you with his aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:11 AM
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If you’ve ever read the Bible And I stopped listening. I don't listen to a book that places more moral value on not eating shellfish than it does not owning people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:09 AM
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That ..that isn't why we like women with low body counts. Stop projecting your penile insecurities onto us
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:08 AM
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Look, your bit is getting old. "Someone disagrees so they must have a small penis" You're sounding kinda gay over there Zarbon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:07 AM
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Jesus Christ. There's still time to take this down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:05 AM
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I don't believe you. I'm calling the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:07 AM
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How do you know how big my penis is? Stalker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:53 AM
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That sounds like something a man with a small penis would say. I'm kidding, obviously. It would take a comically large penis a long time to make a noticable difference. I'm talking highmileageholes kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:27 AM
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Unfortunately, I can't control others. All I can do is control myself and be a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:18 PM
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I treat women like I treat men. I give them the same professional respect and deference when it is due. I constantly remind myself that they're here for a reason and that their gender has, more often than not, been seen as a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:14 PM
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Cool. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:32 PM
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This is the longest way to say "women won't fuck me" that I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:51 AM
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I don't tell them shit. I don't warn them, I don't give them advice, I don't do a fucking thing except respect their independence and autonomy. I've learned a few things about talking to women about their dating choices, specifically that there's nothing you can say to a woman to dissuade her when she wants a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:55 AM
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How does that make sense? If you're expecting somebody to lower their standards to accommodate you then by definition it's not reciprocal because they are lowering their standards to accommodate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:22 AM
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fair to ask for lower standards How is it justifiable for someone to ask another person to lower their standards? Usually the "you need to lower your standards" has an unspoken "to accommodate my desires" attached to it. Moreover, it's impossible to shame someone into effectively lowering their standards - you're trying to persuade them to stop wanting what they want. The only way that changes is if the impetus for changing what they want is internal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:06 AM
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As a RP man, I don't expect anyone to lower their standards. What I want is for people to have realistic views about what they offer and if what they offer is sufficient to warrant having the standards that they do. Usually, the people who say that they have "high standards" don't have the outcomes that justify it because they aren't offering anything special.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:54 AM
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Can confirm, most women love that raw action.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:25 AM
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Please find me a "vanilla space" that is available on the app store that openly gender discriminates. Take your time, I can wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:02 AM
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The discussion is literally about abusive men. Now if you want to discuss how men don't meet the standards of women, start a new thread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:54 PM
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Even undesirable women want desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:52 PM
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Most men aren't abusers or rapists. You're welcome to demonstrate otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:19 PM
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I still think women should choose better as well as men should become better Given that the majority of men are better, why do women keep finding themselves with abusive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:17 PM
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I knew a guy who was openly an ass kicker. Women flocked to him. A woman i know said "he raped me" to which I said "well did you call the fucking police?" Not only no, but she fucked him again! Slow learners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:16 PM
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No pity for women who purposely choose known abusers (which happens) or stay with men who are (which also happens.) Women like to pretend that there are absolutely no red flags to avoid and tell us to ignore what we're seeing play out in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:13 PM
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They want men to give them traditional protection (which is fine) while being modern women who aren't answerable to anyone (which isn't.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:45 PM
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So by the dual admissions of "these men aren't hot" and they are "the men that women choose" (and in consecutive sentences no less) you interpreted that as me agreeing that only the top 20% get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:59 PM
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It's just embarrassing that you can't see what happened here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:27 PM
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Why are you asking us? Most of us don't see men as options for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:42 AM
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At a certain economic break point it's cheaper to pay than it is to spend the time playing the pussy lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:28 AM
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Escorts are, economically, the best option for ALL men. The average American male makes $28.16 an hour. The average American male has sex about once a week. Various sources place paid sex between $50-$100. I will be generous and push it to $200. That puts the price of pussy at 7.1 hours of labor. Not even a full work day. And that is with doubling the average price of intercourse. What does a man have to do to be worth fucking? He has to be physically fit, which takes time. He has to be economic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:26 AM
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I'm sorry, can you please present a coherent position to debate? The title of your post is not supported by the wall of text you presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:07 AM
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Feminists always think they know everything about men while in fact, they know barely anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:06 AM
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You're aware that there's also other options (for example, abusive monogamous men and men who aren't monogamous nor abusive)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:04 AM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:15 PM
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Okay, whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:03 PM
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Pro male, yes. The rest is your bias at best and strawmanning at worst
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:49 PM
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Okay whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:30 PM
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You are making statements based on limited experiences like dating apps Sorry, but we call that "Data". but if you get off the Internet and look in the real world You keep pretending that your subjective experience is the "real world" while ignoring data collected from the real world. This is pointless because we have very different standards of evidence. Specifically, you have none.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:11 PM
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Your lying about his behavior is a bad look. It's cool, it's up for everyone to see. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:02 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:39 PM
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But it's not just my personal experience It literally is an argument that you are making from your personal experience, as I will point out later. my point is the average man can gain access to a woman Except the average man (around 80%) are rated as below average by women, according toan OK Cupid study. Women don't even see average men. most women crave a Fantasy relationship with men, And they fantasize about men who they don't rate as "unattractive". many are even desperate to be in a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:31 PM
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He didn't give you one single ounce of attitude. He made a comparison that pointed out the ridiculousness of your position and you got in your feelings and decided that snarky insults were a good substitute for debate. Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:23 PM
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Neither does strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:21 PM
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You're aware that you can be Red Pilled and have knowledge of other subjects. You seem to just have a problem with men having any opinion that you disagree with. Edit: and we don't give a shit if you find us "acceptable". Respectability politics doesn't get you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:19 PM
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You made a useless rant because You're moving from the topic This thread, as much as you want it to be, isn't about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:15 PM
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An accusation of snark from someone who replied "Aren't you clever?" Okay, whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:13 PM
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I mean, I'm just replying to you. Guess I must be some kind of asshole for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:12 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:57 PM
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Sure, some men are bothered but you're pretending all of us are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:57 PM
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You just wanted to run your mouth instead of talking about the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:15 PM
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What the fuck does this rant have to do with my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:05 PM
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Oh wow people are talking about something new and controversial in the dating world? I guess there's such big concern. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:04 PM
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I didn't say anything about the top 20% being the only ones that get chosen. COOL STRAWMAN THOUGH! I will admit that the rules are much different up here. As someone who wasn't, then became, attractive the difference in how bad behavior is ignored is staggering. The only thing special about these men is that they made some woman angry because they cheated or something It's easy to make y'all angry, even without cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:26 PM
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I (and other red pill men) don't really care what women who we've rejected say about us. It has zero impact on our dating, relationship, and sex lives. It's kind of like women don't really care about "red flags" if you've got the green flags they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:18 PM
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The problem is you guys think this group is the only group women choose I didn't say that. I'm saying that women choose these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:16 PM
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They did address your point by using a similar comparison. Just because you don't like it doesn't render it invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:54 PM
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"so many men" Except the men who share the opposite experience. And the men you don't see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:52 PM
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I find it odd that you take what you see as evidence of your belief, except you also disregard what you see when it doesn't fit what you want to be true. If your personal experience is valid, and you can simultaneously disregard what people who are experiencing the things you don't agree with, what good is your position?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:52 PM
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These men aren't "hot", but you know what they are? The men that women choose. But, as we have seen, women will happily date a man that other women warn about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:49 PM
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I don't disagree. Men are responsible for picking better too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:41 PM
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Can men get on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:00 PM
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Congratulations you discovered that a lot of men should have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:09 PM
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Reminder - these women are just mad that their "incel" exes fucked them and chucked them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:09 PM
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There isn't a war against male sexuality. There's a war against unattractive male sexuality. The rules women make you play by chance (or don't exist) when you're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:31 PM
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If you're poor that is the one thing you want to do. You want to combine your assets exercise fiscal responsibility and provide for your offspring. But fuck me I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:14 AM
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"I want to date a man that is less economically secure than me." -no woman ever. Quit your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:51 AM
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Plenty of non red pill people have it, plenty of red pill people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:45 PM
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I told you what it was. You needing it to be something else is something you need to figure out. It's wild how you think you have the psychic power to tell people what they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:45 PM
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You're mistaking "men having opinions" for "TRP says this..."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:04 PM
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You're mistaking the opinions of people for what TRP is. No big deal, it's an easy mistake. I told you the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:03 PM
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Trp is literally about what men need to do and how men should navigate their relationships. TRP doesn't tell women what to do. Hell, part of TRP is knowing that women are going to do whatever the hell they feel like doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:15 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:22 PM
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And I approve of that decision. I'm the same way. But we're in a very small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:40 PM
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So predators being clergymen, scout leaders, and teachers to get to kids are outliers? In regards to teachers, they are outliers. As far as clergy - I have no respect for the institution as a whole and think it not only attracts but creates predators and I don't have enough data on scouts to make a decision. But what you're doing now is conflating child abuse with relationship abuse. Stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:29 PM
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Congratulations, you managed to find outliers and used these to say that generalizations aren't useful or relevant in filtering. /Golf clap
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:24 PM
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let me make this clear. Doubt you can, but give it your best gumdrop. Women get into abusive relationship. People choose who they date. People also exhibit behaviors along a spectrum. I'd say that the really hot guy who is misogynistic is far more likely to slap you around than the guy who likes ornithology. It isn't a perfect system, but context clues exist. Women complain about men who are abusing them Complain to the police. File a report. Get these bad actors out the system. Or just keep dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:07 PM
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I had a whole response, but then I remembered that I don't deal with strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:55 PM
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Stay in your wheelhouse and all shall be well. When people stop making their shitty outcomes the problem of men who have nothing to do with them, we will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:49 PM
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I guess for a man to be "good" he has to align with women's priorities and timelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:46 PM
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How does this address my point? A man could avoid all of this by just never getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:41 PM
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You managed to both not address my point, say something totally wrong, AND dodge accountability all in one sentence. Bravo. Women (like men) are responsible for the people they pick. How is this controversial? Edit: So redpillers were always what their critics say they were: Misogynists. This is irrelevant to the point and an attempt to distract
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:40 PM
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Well, picking men for dating is not in the wheelhouse of TRP. You're being mad about this is like being upset that your car doesn't also make color photocopies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:25 PM
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The wealthy understand the purpose of marriage whereas the poor do not. Marriage isn't about love. Marriage is about the legal intermingling of financial estates and the production of successful offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:23 PM
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A wiser man than me once said "you will never know who a woman truly is until she has leverage over you." When you marry a woman, you give her the ultimate leverage - the ability to use the government to strip you bare and leave you with no recourse. If you want to keep a woman on her best behavior with you, never put her in a position to potentially use that power.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:21 PM
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I still haven't had an answer to this question: "What does a man get from being married that he cannot get without it, and does it offset the risk he takes with marriage?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:19 PM
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And good. The women who would listen to other jaded women aren't the kinds that you want to try to build a good lasting relationship with. This is an example of the trash taking itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:57 AM
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You're intentionally missing the point. Women make a habit of not being direct about what they find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:26 PM
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Except the difference is men don't bullshit women about our preferences. Women know exactly what the men of their preferred demographic like because men tell them directly and their actions match their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:31 AM
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This is a fair point. Specifically, the industries I've been in are military, factory, and retail. You'd think the military, with its very clearly defined rank structure, would be free of that bullshit but I can't even count the number of times my female peers (and sometimes superiors) are not treated seriously because of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:26 PM
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That has never been my position, but thank you for the tacit admission that you think only "Chad" is deserving of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:20 PM
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Why are you projecting the ineptitude of a few onto a whole generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:19 PM
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It's happened in every industry I've been in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:38 AM
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As a man, fucking absolutely. I'm fully aware that my opinions are given more weight in professional settings than my female counterparts. I make efforts to negate this privilege, but I'm aware that it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:38 AM
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Again, how is that a reply to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:57 PM
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Well, I stand corrected. I appreciate you giving sources
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:01 PM
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How is that even a reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:56 PM
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Well, most violent crimes arent committed by women and women also go into helping people like nursing, teachers, therapy, etc. So? Thats not most men at all. That's not any women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:56 PM
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I'll go further - it isn't the empathetic, sensitive men that are rewarded with sex. Those things are secondary to women. Hot guys to the front, please and thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:02 PM
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This is one of the steps to becoming red pill Get told "be yourself" Realize that "being yourself" isn't enough Look at what successful men are doing Realizing you're inadequate Put in the work to improve yourself Start seeing the same women who ignored you treat you differently Swallow the pill Realize that most women are a waste of money, energy, or time that you could be putting into yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:32 PM
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Female-only spaces are fine. Why do you care what people do when it doesn't affect you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:28 PM
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No. Edit: unless she was okay with me having sex with other people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:27 PM
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I'll believe women are more empathetic than men when you see women willing to die to save strangers lives or even sacrifice their lives for their own partners. Miss us with this bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:25 PM
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Fastest way to lose a woman? Give her everything she asks for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:23 PM
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There is no longer a contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:20 PM
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You wanted equality, not privilege. If these women are interested in men, they are just as capable of approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:20 PM
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If men only wanted sex, and nothing more, literally every woman with a working vagina who wanted to be married would be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:56 PM
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I think there's a bit of a confusion. Yes men are looking for sex. We are not only looking for sex. It's a powerful biological motivator, hardwired into us by generations of sexual success - all live in creatures exist to propagate their genetics. I'll even go so far as to admit that men will do a lot of dumb things to get and maintain a sexual relationship with a woman. But sex isn't the only thing. If sex were the only thing that a woman had to offer, every woman who wanted to be with a man wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:42 PM
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If you want to pretend that the basis of interaction between males and females of a species isn't for sexual reproduction, then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:53 PM
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Depends on what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:06 AM
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Whatever you say, have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:59 AM
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There's a risk you run when you wait at the finish line and pick the winners - you risk becoming just another thing that's considered cash and prizes. Why would a man value you if you just waited at the finish line like all the other women? What good are you to him? How did you help him improve? How did you help him in his struggle? And look if you want to be the type of woman who refuses to help build with a man that is your choice, Just understand that those men who are built up when you meet …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:58 AM
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I'd say it's understanding your partner's flaws and deciding that the person is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:54 AM
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Congratulations. You've discovered that humans (to include you) are hypocrites in some areas of their lives. That's just the nature of this game. We want and expect things from other people that we can't provide or not willing to do ourselves. You can either accept that and operate accordingly or you can sit here and mewl about it. One of those options will get you better outcomes than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:51 AM
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Congratulations, you have unlocked "two things can be true at the same time." Yes, some men do drive women crazy. Also, some women are crazy without involvement from men. Therefore, OPs position is wrong since she is refusing to admit that some women are just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:46 AM
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We're having a misunderstanding. You can understand a system and still not be happy with it. The red pill fully admits that men and women lie to each other about their motivations and their desired outcomes. Knowledge of this, however, does not necessarily inform action. There are plenty of men who have taken the red pill mentally, but still move through the dating market with blue-pill blinders. You'll find that those men are full of anger and resentment because they can see the promised land b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:43 AM
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But I think it’s evidence that men’s mental health is untreated Not the discussion. OP asserted that women aren't crazy, but that men drive them crazy. men are more likely to be the crazy ones. Never said that men couldn't be crazy. I demonstrated that women can be crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:40 AM
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Avoiding the point that I was making. I was refuting the OPs biased position by calling out the bias for what it was and providing evidence to counter it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:38 AM
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Any man who expects honesty from a woman is just preparing to take the red pill as a suppository.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:35 AM
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Again, I've explained it. I'll try again though. OPs post is the "women are wonderful" effect, avoiding female accountability for their own actions by asserting (without any evidence) that women aren't crazy, but that men make them crazy. To counter her position, I posted a link to demonstrate that a large number of women are on mental health medications to demonstrate that women are fully capable of being "crazy" (which is a subjective term) independent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:34 AM
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At this point, ive explained myself as politely as I can without insulting your intelligence. What I assumed was a simple misunderstanding is clearly you debating in bad faith to avoid the core of my position. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:27 AM
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People are expected to engage somewhat dishonestly in all their voluntary dealings because, if you come right out and state your objective, then you lose the advantage that you have with the other party. For example, when you're in a job interview and the interviewer asks "why do you want to work here?" if you say "because I want you to give me money", you won't be getting the job even if it's the obvious answer to both you and the interviewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:25 AM
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I'm speaking specifically of the "women are wonderful" effect, a psychological and sociological phenomena. I wasn't using medication use as a way to attack women. Again, not everything is an attack against your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:22 AM
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Is it the fifties, my dude? Who does the overwhelming majority of the proposing in almost every culture on Earth my dude? The rest of your post is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:24 AM
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No. Women choose who fucks, and even that has limits. Men are the ones who decide on the ultimate prize for women: commitment. Sure in the past you can say there was a balance between commitment and sex but - thanks to birth control, the sexual revolution, and the prevalence of social media - sex is now freely available for any man who reaches the attractiveness threshold of his preferred demographic. When men approach women we don't approach them with the intention of giving them commitment. Su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:26 AM
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Men’s suicide rates are 4x higher than women’s Men are successful at suicide at a 4x rate, but women attempt suicide more often. But your attempt to correlate suicide with a mental health disorder is tenuous at best as people commit suicide for a number of reasons. But I'll agree that more men die from alcohol and drugs than women so, even if it doesn't support your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:17 AM
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WHOOOSH
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:05 AM
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I'm not taunting women. I'm presenting data that backs up my position. Please don't try to pretend facts are an assault against your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:03 AM
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When you have a source that demonstrates that domestic violence is overwhelmingly committed by men, I'll take what you said seriously. I say that, because you might be full of shit. As to your point that most DV convictions are men only demonstrates that most DV convictions are men. It doesn't relate to who is actually committing DV - it only addresses who gets arrested, indicted, and convicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 10:44 PM
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Lord, you sure don't like facts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:36 PM
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Yes, because I didn't link a source or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:32 PM
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And what sources do you have that suggests men are undiagnosed at greater rates than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:18 PM
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but it doesn’t say from who So we can only rely on the known variable. I believe Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:17 PM
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Well, what metric would you suggest we use to have an unbiased comparison on who is "crazy"? We can run our mouths all day about our subjective experience and get nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:40 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6113571/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:39 PM
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Your personal experience does not refute data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:47 PM
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Sorry, I worded that in a weird way. Lesbian relationships have the highest rate of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:47 PM
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Being fit is not going to guarantee women are attracted to you or will stay with you. I know plenty of fit men with shitty personalities who can't keep a woman if they had $100 bill tied to their dick. But that's no excuse not to improve your looks - What you're doing is called "cope". You are looking for an excuse not to put in the work to make yourself more attractive. And get this, even if you don't get a single woman from the effort you are still better, healthier, stronger, fitter than you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:17 PM
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Then why are the most abusive relationships between lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:57 PM
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This is just the "women are wonderful" effect, completely ignoring that women are the majority of mental health cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:55 PM
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You have a fair point. With that said, men look at women with a filter of "what don't I want" and women look at men with a "what do I want" filter and those create very different outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:18 AM
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I say that trying to date as a man is like looking for a needle in a haystack and that dating as a woman is like looking for a needle in a stack of inferior needles that you don't want. Women are bombarded with opportunities...and many of them are from men they don't want. Really, I don't know which one is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:52 AM
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Why? There's literally zero incentive for women to approach. Women don't like timid men. By putting men in the position of pursuer they filter out men with personality traits they don't find attractive. Women don't want to give up the right of refusal. If men waited for women to approach, nothing would happen. Look at the disaster of bumble - women have to "make the first move" but it usually ends up being a lame "hi" followed by the women expecting the men to fall into the position of pursuer r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:49 AM
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