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CMVRinoaRita/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:19 PM
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CMVRinoaRita/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:12 AM
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the human brain is very bad at long term gradual consequences. That’s why people are terrified of plane crashes but not global warming. We don’t have that primal fear. In that sense men tend to commit more violent crime that results in physical injury. That tends to create more revulsion in men and women. Think why CEOs that cut healthcare that causes thousands of deaths aren’t seen as serial killers while the idea of Ted bundy strikes fear in women. Again convoluted long chain that might result…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:16 AM
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You’re confusing correlation with causation. Think about all the reasons why starting a family sucks. Affordable housing so you can own a home and not a cramped apartment that doesn’t have multiple bedrooms? Nope. Affordable childcare that isn’t half sometimes even one whole paycheck? Nope. You’re looking at 1200-1600 a month per kid for daycare. The cost of delivering a baby under many insurance plans? $5000-10000+ but other stuff is costly too. So affordable health care? Nope. So even child fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:00 AM
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Yeah taller is statistically normal. It becomes ridiculous if they insist on a 6’+ because that’s the just some random metric. Why not 175 cm? It’s because humans like nice whole numbers. But if every human was randomly assigned a partner men would be taller than women in a pairing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:18 AM
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You’re complaining that guys don’t have standards and supposedly objectively low value women are over inflating their value. But it’s really the guys not choosing better is what’s causing the over valuation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:40 PM
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So if you’re blaming women for choosing crappy partners aren’t men also accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:10 PM
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I would argue that the variance is due to women having more varied avenues for “physical attractiveness” People rate themselves as above average drivers but that’s because the defensive driver who is on alert for other cars, makes sure there’s a safe follow distance, etc would rate themselves above average because they feel they’re safer. The asshole aggressive driver who cuts people off and can weave around lanes and zoom past people by bobbing in and would also rate themselves above average be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:06 AM
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Do you think it’s a generational thing or that you’re still young? Most millennials are paired up or have been at some point. Over 75% of people are married by 35. But people are pushing back the age
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:16 AM
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So it’s situational awareness. If you’re in a dark alleyway and you see a woman walking at a slower pace than you in front of you, yeah maybe nice to cross the street and keep walking at the pace you’re happy at or deliberately make more noise (I dunno, jangle keys or something)so she’s not startled if it’s narrow. If you’re in a professional setting pulling a mike pence and refusing to work with a woman and not treating her as you would a man would be crappy and sexist. Basically the biology is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:16 AM
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Yeah, having a safe location initially is key. the situational awareness to not even be in the fight is the first choice regardless of gender. Obviously more of a need for a small woman but even a trained 6’7” 300lbs of muscle martial artist isn’t fighting a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:04 PM
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And you don’t think it’s weird to have the split conversation the other way? Like I’m not disagreeing with the initial premise but your reasoning of it’s weird goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:58 AM
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It obviously depends on the guys and his goals but for a young guy just starting out and navigating I would say anyone that’s worth it will give as much as you get. If a woman is interested she’ll let you know. You can definitely shoot your shot but if she isn’t warm and receptive don’t be desperate or sad and chase. The golden rule applies in dating too. Treat others the way you want to be treated. Also sometimes people are too self sacrificing. Ask would you let someone treat your best friend …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:17 PM
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The long and short is yes, it has an effect. But that’s also combined with higher risk for women when it comes to casual sex. So it’s part of the thing preventing women but not all of it nor even the single biggest issue. But I think kids are much less active then than teens of the past according to stats and that’s probably got to do with them being more online than slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:29 AM
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If you’re truly just logical why not just go behind her back? Isn’t being upset at having to be dishonest a feeling? If you have to weigh feelings you can balance the weight of being dishonest to her weight of being accused and see which one is worse. There’s also the probability of being caught. But honestly just getting an ancestry kit is usually good enough unless you’re suspecting your brother of being the other guy. That’s really the pro-move. Ancestry kits for the whole family. Unless your…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:56 AM
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that’s totally your prerogative to only date people who make about what you make. But is that what you’re saying? Or it could work if one partner is stay at home. But if you both work 40 hours and she makes less then it’s going to lead to a lifestyle conflict. it also could work if you’re willing to live at her lifestyle level and budget and set aside the rest. But there’s no way you can keep up a 50/50 at your income level if she makes significantly less than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:44 PM
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it’s less about condemning them and more of a should we do something as a society. There’s a reason in theory adults are allowed to watch porn but kids aren’t. Not that we’re kidding ourselves about teens not looking at porn. But I. Theory adults can tell fantasy from reality while kids can’t. Now banning teens from ai gfs will be about as successful as banning them from porn but if that’s what they’re looking at as a foundation it could be more of an issue versus grown women who are treating it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:22 PM
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It’s controlling if they have no real intention of following though. It’s used as a weapon as opposed to a follow through consequence. If the person were to do whatever, there’s a good chance it’ll be abuse and possible violence they come back to and not an empty place/ghosting. Now obviously if that’s the dynamic the person should leave. Imagine if someone threatened to kill themselves if you didn’t do x or if you did x? The same response is you do whatever anyway and call services on them. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:50 AM
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Part of going through middle/high school is not caring about what others think regardless of gender. It’s just as bad to make your choices because you’re afraid to look like a pick me. You should have inner convictions/opinions that you form based on your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:48 PM
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The common denominator, no matter what the actual opinion, is that they’re not forming it out of a system of beliefs /goals/values. It’s forming these opinions based on how they’ll be perceived by potential partners over other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:10 PM
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You’re allowed to shoot your shot but you gotta take a miss with grace. I think common consensus is you’re allowed to ask or make your interest known but also have to take a hint. If a woman’s rejection beyond what’s needed (belittling for no reason just for thinking he had a chance) makes her a jerk. Not taking the hint after a no or meh makes him the jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:47 PM
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And that’s why it’s ambiguous. But in theory you’d agree that if the man had an interest in pursuing a relationship but changed his mind after thinking there’s an issue with sexual compatibility is different from a guy who had no interest in anything long terms claiming otherwise. There’s no way to prove it in a court of law but in terms of their intent in being judged morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:37 PM
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Do you lock your door? Do you not wander around dark alleys late at night? Most people don’t rob places and most people aren’t mugging people. But you take precautions against the bad ones. Same thing for women and guys. It’s hard to gauge exactly what you mean by consequences. Is it that a woman wouldn’t chat with him in an elevator because she thinks if she’s too friendly he’d see it as an invitation to get sexual? It it that he won’t get hired for childcare type jobs because they’d peg him as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:39 PM
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Wait so you think people should love people other than their kids unconditionally? Like if someone turns abusive or changes from who they were they’re still owed love?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:25 AM
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You obviously don’t have kids or grew up in a broken home. I’m a teacher and even the worst parents still have love for their kids but sometimes they don’t know. Obviously that’s barring absentee parents because my sample size is parents who bothered to show up to school about their kids. But if you can’t understand how love for a child is different from a partner you’re either not arguing in good faith or have a fundamental lack of understanding of that dynamics between a parent and child vs ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:22 PM
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How are the two different though? You are who you are because of your values/interest/personality and what you do with that. That’s why most women value ambition but not necessarily results. Having a guy who has the strong passion/intelligence/drive (all who he is) to pursue endeavors he finds worthy is loving him for who he is. Most women value kindness/honesty/integrity which manifest as not lying, showing you care etc I guess the real test is what happens if you got disabled and you’re still …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:14 AM
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In your analogy casino would be the only fans platform. The girls are the blackjack dealers. If you want to extend the analogy to drugs, the girls are the low level street dealers that are customer facing while only fans and porn production company are the big head of the cartels. And you know that the low level dealers, if not addicts themselves, are barely making minimum wage and are being exploited by the system but it’s the only option available.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:08 AM
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I don’t think that’s at all relevant to objectifying. If anything it says she cares too much about what others think and is doing the opposite of the same coin, which is giving their opinions value without thinking. She didn’t like you but suddenly is swayed by the “hype” of others. That kind of thought pattern (only caring about the opinions of others) shows that she’s not very strong in her thoughts or opinions and lacking the ability to form her own opinions independently. I suppose you could…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:04 AM
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What advice would you give?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:44 AM
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I mean in the end individuals make their choices. Men can set their standard too. At the population level it just seems that there are inherent differences between men and women. Biologically and physically casual sex is riskier for women, making them more adverse. Men on average are physically stronger and women are the ones risking pregnancy. Makes sense from that standpoint point the level of risk and benefit for the realm would have a higher standard for men. The other is that biological or …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:10 PM
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You can’t control sexuality for sure. Many straight women wish they could swear off guys and just date women but no one can control that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:43 PM
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I’ll give you that. Women are much more ok with not dating than dating shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:00 PM
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We that’s why infrastructure is being neglected and “unsexy” no politician runs on maintaining infrastructure and we see bridges with cracks. It’s because voters don’t care the roads are normal until there’s a sinkhole. So yeah house work definitely has devalued because it’s women but work in general that is just maintenance is under appreciated and ignored until there’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:01 PM
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I would argue it is invisible because entropy. If things stay the same then there is work being done to keep it clean and keep it organized. But it’s exactly the same as usual. If you think about it you know logically there’s work. But even literally from visibility unless you’re recording yourself cleaning and playing it on the counter, if your counter always seems clean then visibly there’s nothing to notice that work has been done. It’s like the custodial staff knowing not having their work n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:47 AM
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I mean let’s say it is better to be the mistress than the wife in that situation. Isn’t it better to be with a guy who doesn’t have a wife or is ethically non monogamous? It’s like arguing whether a dog shit sandwich is better than a human shit sandwich but why overlook the big glaring option of not eating a shit sandwich willingly? If anything as someone being partnered you risk having someone slips some shit in your sandwich but as a mistress (assuming you know he’s attached) you’re choosing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:49 AM
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What do you mean ought to? Nice person and fun to hang with = friend Add attractive with looks and you might bump up to dating. If you are physically attractive someone might sleep with you but it’s unlikely and long stable loving relationship will form. So yeah there are people with poor judgment that might try to form a relationship with someone who values and personality are lacking but the equivalent is people trying to form a relationships with someone they don’t find physically attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:26 PM
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What’s your socio economic status? That’s usually either in the upper extremes or lower extremes. The upper is that the guy can afford a good life on just one income. The other extreme is that the woman can’t find a job that pays more than day care rates so it’s more cost efficient for her to stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:00 PM
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There’s no conspiracy. It all comes to supply and demand and the dating economy. Women have been forced into marriage for survival and we are finally several generations from that. Men are also adjusting to the new standard where women no longer needed them as providers. Men aren’t really gate keeping but reacting to women who no longer need them and are able to impose standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:05 PM
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That’s really just an opinion without any backing. There are plenty of women expressing desires both through words and money fueling industries and franchises that capitalize on female lust. If seeing stuff with your own eyes doesn’t convince you then you’re just going on faith at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:40 AM
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Lots of women at the population level have the tingles for men of a certain caliber. Now the average man isn’t going to be able to produce this level but there definitely are non celebs that can ignite this desire. Is your premise women aren’t attracted to men the entire population or men the gender? Because yeah most women aren’t going to be attracted to most men just based on looks. But most women are attracted to some kind of male beauty fitting their standard whether it boy bands or muscular…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:47 AM
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I mean the different generations of girls all screaming over various boy bands and older women gushing over Chris helmworth and Jason momoa shows female heterosexuality is definitely there. How that fares for the average dude I’m not sure. But even teaching high school girls have crushes and think boys are cute. I will give you that there will never be a brothel of just anyone for women like you could for man. So based on your exact assertion of “women are not attracted to men” can be easily ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:13 AM
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Are you for universal health care?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:30 PM
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I think there’s also the opposite where a conventionally unattractive woman can have a bunch of guys if she’s not that picky with looks. So these lonely guys can share the same girl too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:28 PM
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Most women don’t like to reject guys. Whether it’s justified like the guy will actually be a danger because he’ll get violent or abusive or not justified as they like stringing him along for attention. But most women do not enjoy rejecting guys for various reasons. They mean ones would “reject” to their friends like “ha, I can’t believe he actually thinks he has a chance” but in practice these types of women would usually string him along for the attention. Some don’t want to reject without anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:43 PM
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I mean I’ll dispute you on the people aren’t affected by it. See how much Trump was losing his cool because someone said he had small hands? And Elon saying he’s hurt by everyone calling him names? I think saying is women are afraid men will kill them and men are afraid women would laugh at them. And
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:17 AM
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Treating a woman like a normal person like you would a guy and having a normal conversation! Who’d think that would work to make them think you’re cool. I think most guys don’t have to work this hard or be intentional to have regular interactions with women, even attractive ones. Obviously certain populations may be over represented in this sub but I don’t think most guys have to adapt to behavioral therapy to have connections with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:01 PM
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It suck’s to be the bearer of bad news no matter what gender but your gender colors people’s perception on your delivery. A woman who’s harsh and direct would be called an icy bitch while guy would be applauded for giving it straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:51 PM
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Not the poster but I think there should be physical standards that if anyone meets them they get the job. Does that mean there’ll be less female fire fighters? Yeah because being able carry equipment and still perform physically is an integral part of the job. Same for infantry and other jobs that involve lifting heavy things. But if it’s something that really doesn’t involve time speed and physicality women should get the same roles and jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:56 PM
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That’s not true in theory. I think he means humanity has twice as much female ancestors. Let’s say there’s Adam and Bob and Cathy and Dana. Adam has a kid with both Cathy and Dana while Bob doesn’t reproduce. The two kids both have a mom and dad but the collective only have one male ancestor and two female ancestor. So while you are referring to the individual and that would be correct, if op was referring to humanity the collective it is possible for human ancestry to have twice as many female …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:00 PM
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Good relationship > single > bad relationship No one I don’t think, is arguing this order. But the debate is where the threshold of single is better than this lies. The argument is if a higher percentage of women are happier in the single area vs the threshold of bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:57 PM
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In what context/where? Like in a forum? In real life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:50 PM
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No one is stopping you? You can feel free to shoot your shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:43 PM
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Yeah like are you trying to trick them? Or are you trying to find someone who fits with your values? If you pay for the first few and suddenly feel like you shouldn’t have to and now there’s resentment that’s setting yourself up for failure. I guess if a guy just wants to sleep with them and wants to keep up the charade until they do this strategy works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:24 PM
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My husband would love to be a stay at home dad. The reality is we can’t afford to have a home and kids with just my income. I make more than him and I could keep the lights on but we’d be pay check to pay check and no frills no savings. It is a good safety net but we’d be pay can’t life comfortably or even safely. We’d be one disaster away from going underwater with one income. That’s the crux of the issue. Most families need 2 incomes and it’s not a choice. And then if more house work falls to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:40 PM
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Not really. Most women aren’t. The common denominator is you. Do you gravitate towards certain types?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:59 AM
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I think you’re thinking a professional match maker. They only accept serious clients who are indeed marriage minded. They interview their clients and try to match them up based on compatibility in various areas. Arranged marriage means there’s not much agency but what you’re envisioning sounds more like professional match maker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:11 AM
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It’s kind to be “cruel”. It’s worst when people have a flame and can’t move on or there’s false hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:29 PM
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I think the closest you can is I made a profile as a woman and I got pelted with gross messages even though I stated clearly I’m not here to hook up and his profile was empty and I had trouble sifting through all the crap to possibly find anything of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:56 AM
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Yeah pretty much. I mean in the end it comes to no one is obligated to date you. They can even complain about it. But the bottom line is you’ll end up alone if you don’t want anyone and no one wants you. But if everyone out there would only subtract from your life then it’s better to stay single. And that goes out for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:18 AM
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I mean there’s the bigger issue of the prison industrial complex if you’re going to start taking issues with prisons, at least in America. It’s great that hopefully crime goes punished equally regardless of gender or race but we should stop to think what crimes should be punished with jail time. America has the highest prison population and yeah there are truly dangerous people who only stop killing and hurting because they’re locked up but non violent drug offenses or people whose crimes are fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:12 AM
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It used to be the case that one income could support a family. There’s no reason why that couldn’t be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:07 PM
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Yeah this guy needs to touch grass. Like if I could support the family with just one income my husband would be a stay home parent. He ran for school board, participates in pta stuff and would probably volunteer in community positions more. Like no one should force women to stay home with no choice but if you can’t imagine how a stay at home parent would spend their time you really don’t understand. I would join in a movement that says people should be able to support a family on one basic incom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:16 AM
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When I started dating my husband and we started getting more serious I went to his mom’s office to get an exam. She’s a doctor. She was taking my insurance card and I saw her visibly look impressed and approve lmao. Like she didn’t say anything but her expression betrayed her. I guess having good insurance impresses mother in laws these days lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:23 AM
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Yeah that statistic is meaningless in blame and more on who is doing the paperwork. If a guy cheats on a woman and she files for divorce ig counts as her “initiating” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:02 AM
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Yeah like I could data data but not ai as it currently stands. There’s a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:31 AM
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Yeah I think this guys is forgetting unless you’re attractive or repulsive you’re not having much impact on people. The extremes on both sides leave an impression. The middle unremarkable people, at least in terms of looks, aren’t going to have any stories to tell looks wise. So I’ve been hot since 7th grade and I still am nor the flip I’ve been mocked for being ugly since 7th grade. Most common experience is no one ever mentioned my looks in particular but I found someone whose personality mesh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:46 PM
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It’s because what’s abnormal is what gets posted and talked about. I can’t orgasm with my husband is post/vent worthy. Women who are orgasming just fine don’t post about it because they’re busy getting those orgasms. Victims of SA aren’t posting about not having orgasms when they’re talking about it but the ones that do are confused and upset by it. People post about things that are upsetting and vent. No one calls customer service to say good job nothing went wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:43 AM
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Yeah it sucks but I was on a jury for a guy accused of molesting girls and I can see why that’s the case. The level of evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt and not more likely than not. What made my case easy is three victims all came out who were from different eras of the church. That made it a slam dunk. But if there was only one or if they were a friend group the beyond a reasonable doubt might not have cleared. Also the guy was dumb and talked to cops and admitted to tickling them. I mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:02 AM
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I don’t think those terms refer to literal penis but who it’s attached to? Like if a woman saying I’m getting holiday dick I would assume it’s a fling that’s fun and not serious. Also how would you verify it on a vacation? Guys aren’t showing off their assets on the street unless they’re walking around with a full hardon
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:38 PM
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Guys are usually the ones complaining though. I’ve heard “emotional tampon” being tossed around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:54 PM
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It’s actually the other extreme causing horse shoe pattern in appearing “normal”. Music taste kind of shows a mirror to what’s happening It used to be every kid listened to the same top 40, then maybe more subcultures with their own genres popped up with their own top songs and now everyone has their unique Spotify playlist customized to exactly what they like that there’s no big subcultures. There still kind of is but the days of big nerds/jocks/preps/goth/emo are fading.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:02 PM
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If you know you have no shot of winning and you’re likely to get beat up? You probably wouldn’t start that fight. Now that’s not saying women aren’t immoral at a lesser rate. The bad women who might beat up their partners if they could are likely the ones that threaten to lie to get the guy locked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:13 PM
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I will give you that attractive guys get more leeway but if some undesirable behavior is just permanent behavior they will eventually get treated accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:45 AM
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Actually guys do the opposite where they will sleep with the fat woman because it’s been a while but won’t want to be seen with her or associate with her. Guys have admitted this to me and not just 1 or 2. Different circles at different times of my life. That’s still anecdotal I know but it’s definitely a thing. So I agree with your assertion that women shouldn’t lower their standards but not for the same reasons. It’s that having a partner isn’t essential and should add to your life. It’s not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:26 PM
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I think the catcalls is the type of men who thinks they can get away with it. Your experience sucks but its only evidence is that creepy guys are more likely to act creepy. Like guys who are attracted to preteen-young teens are more likely to engage in the creepy catcall behaviors because A: they think girls are less likely to do something. Older guys with age appropriate attraction know that kind of behavior will likely have some blowback (whether it’s getting the cops called on them or getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:23 AM
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On the flip side men are given free passes to cheat and women are expected to deal with it because he’s a man and at least he comes home to you so you’re the winner. Women are given harsher punishment for cheating and men aren’t expected to just deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:46 AM
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The Venn diagram model works with that though. Two circles overlapping at varying degrees one being high trust and over being alpha/beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:13 PM
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There’s a venn diagram of good personality and sexy. If you’re in the overlap women will want to date and stay in a relationship. If you’re only in one, they might just sleep with you or just be your friend. Trying to frame it as a hierarchy instead of a Venn diagram doesn’t make sense. The more intricate description is you must have a certain number of points in each category before she’ll be your friend/sleep with you/be in a relationship. If you’re attractive you might be able to sleep with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:48 PM
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I don’t think so. Also 10% can mean a lot. Do we mean 10% of all people? 10% of the students on one college? In a town? In a city? If there was an event where everyone was Chad there’d be a lot of hooking up. Not just the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:21 PM
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I’m 41 but I actually see a lot of older ladies who seem pretty happy and have active lives some who are “spinsters” but others whose husband passed away or others who are divorced. Women are definitely better at getting out and being active in their senior years. I know my sample size is obviously biased but at community events, the volunteering organizations, church, it’s all women or couples and not as man old guys. Once you get old, as a general rule you sex drive and focus on sex goes down.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:10 AM
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I would like to point out if everyone is looksmaxxed no one is isn’t good argument when a common sentiment is women would rather be alone than with someone they don’t fancy. It would be the case if guys were only competing with each other and women had to choose the best available option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:10 PM
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I agree with that with almost every non violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:08 AM
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One is on the different levels of hierarchy of needs. The government can protect and provide the lowest levels of the pyramid. Physical safety /needs. Even public schools provide the next level for kids and there are community program. What you’re comparing is the highest level of the pyramid vs lower levels of the pyramid. I would agree that there might be different issue that pop up that are gender based but esteems and being loved and appreciated doesn’t seem be freely provided for either gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:40 PM
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I think the perception is that these women are finding consenting partners with the premise that it’s just a fling. If men are finding prostitutes who know what the deal is and part of the sex tourism industry sure. The difference is when they promise marriage/actual relationships with local women who might be hoping for more. That’s a power imbalance there and nota business transaction. We could argue over how prevalent these thins actually are and I would be open to how people behave in practi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:15 PM
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True but like teen incels would complain all the girls just like the popular boys? And not have this reminiscing? I teach hs and the woe is me far from lacking in high school but doesn’t quite hit like this? Maybe this is a guy who is in his early 20s but never matured past high school or never actually had a gf in hs and is now romanticizing it ? Or just never got over his hs gf and it shows so women are (rightfully) not giving him the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:42 PM
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Yeah what teenagers is this guy thinking of? If anything they’re super shallow and status conscious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:05 PM
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So when do you expect that level of intensity? On date number 1? After a month? How do you gauge if it’s good to get that intense? What kind of qualities are you looking for so that person can appreciate and reciprocate love?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:03 PM
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Is it wrong to steal someone’s prized possession that they got some their grandma who passed away? Is it wrong to steal food from a supermarket to feed your starving kid? To shoplift medicine at Walmart so your kid that has a fever can get better? You made a false equivalence. If you said the women complain that men want women who are 38/24/36 with the correct ratio and are demure and have nice hair and make up while still only demanding the top 10% I would agree. But you’re comparing two things…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:04 PM
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Oh my Sonny, aren’t you a strapping young lad. If I were 50 years younger. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:02 AM
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Pretty sure the saying is you’re not bored, you’re boring. Anyone complaining their life is boring and they need others to entertain them is a bore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:32 PM
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So no one is making you do it. And if you can’t understand why someone might be cautious of a stranger offering you a ride then you can go cross country hitchhiking to prove a point. But it still wouldn’t be the same as a solo woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:29 PM
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I am short asian woman. I was waiting at a bus stop in the rain in the middle of no where. A tiny little old white lady asked if I wanted to sit in the car while I waited for my ride while she waited for the next bus. There’s no way she would have offered a guy and I probably wouldn’t have gotten in with a guy. It sucks because a vast a majority of men wouldn’t do anything. But once you cut from men in general to the subset of men who ask a woman if she wants to get in the car with him alone the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:29 PM
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I would guess the former in theory. But in practice if a guy has no resources you don’t know he had the ability to obtain it. Also while there are useless trust fund babies that would just squander their money or a crackhead who won the lotto, often times people with resources get their kids a decent education and imbue them with the ability to expand on their wealth. Even Paris Hilton who plays the dumb useless rich girl cashed in on that image. So even in this scenario, the man with the abilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:58 PM
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Umm by this isn’t evolution eugenics? The classic definition is deliberate modification. Like parents getting a bunch of embryos and testing them would be. But people selecting isn’t. Like if the government made athletes breed to make ubermench yeah. Sterilizing anyone with a disability yeah. You can even argue women aborting fetuses with genetic abnormalities eugenics especially within the system that tests for it and presents them with that option. But this scenario you set doesn’t have a “mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:49 PM
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Shouldn’t everyone be encouraged to have interests and hobbies outside of a relationship? If anyone doesn’t like a partner’s hobby that they started with (ie they didn’t suddenly take it up while in the relationship and significantly altering an established dynamic ) they shouldn’t go into the relationship hoping to change them or they drop their hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:35 AM
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I think it’s condemnable if they’re ranting about ruling them out vocally. So I guess the equally condemnable is if some girl was saying I don’t date nerdy warhammer 40k guys with their minis and traveling for tournaments. What losers!!! Urgh why do they even bother dating when all they do is play 40k or paint their minis or spend all their time thinking about how to compose their latest army! So yeah I think both parties are equally condemnable in these cases. Like they should both swipe left a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:23 AM
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Yeah like this is literally a trope? And actually a thing guys complain about? About taming the misunderstood bad boy? I can change him! He’ll give up his bad boy behavior for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:05 AM
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Which inequality do you think it claims to address that it’s not? Femenism’s lane is pursuing equality and freedom from inequality based on gender. Should women have the freedom from forced marriage? Yeah. Should men have the freedom to negotiate wives with their fathers? No. Now if there’s some society where men were also forced to marry because it’s a family on family oppressing their young people it’ll become more of a general human rights/cultural Revolution against tradition. Then it wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:30 AM
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So the survey is based on condom use at the last encounter. So if I had to guess a smaller percentage of girls are having sex with more guys while a larger percentage of girls are only having sex in a fairly closed relationship Here’s a stark example to show what could be causing that. Let’s say there are 10 guys and 10 girls that are all sexually active. Let’s say 9 of the girls think they’re in a monogamous relationship so they’ve not using condoms. Maybe they’re on the pill. Let’s say 1 girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:46 AM
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Are you just looking at the gym and not looking at the yoga and Pilates and dance classes that are packed with women? Also I see a lot more women in more gender neutral in theory settings like spin classes. Now that might be more middle to upper class women who can afford it while a $30 a month for the gym is in reach for working class people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:12 AM
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I mean if you look at evolutionary biology eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. If a guy gets women pregnant and his offspring survive to sexual maturity he wins evolution. It’s worth it to get with women, even women he’s not invested in because there’s a chance it might survive. Obviously having an invested dad increases the likelihood of having kids that survive. So it makes sense from a winning at evolution to take care of your kids but also having extra kids that might survive is better than …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:35 PM
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It really depends on the setting but like if I’m just going about my day very very few people are notable in either direction. If I’m grocery shopping a person would have to be really good looking for me to break out of my shopping mode and think wow how gorgeous. Like model or actor level. Similarly a person would have to be really ugly in the other direction. The reverse brad pitt or Angelina Jolie. If we’re just being super honest here I don’t think I’ve ever disgusted about anyone just facia…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:12 AM
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So at the core, if you take them in good faith, the red pill isn’t a set of rules/values but just seeing what’s the truth. It’s an idea of what is vs what should you do/what your goals are. That’s why both men who want marriage and kids and men who just want as much casual hook ups as they can get can both be red pill. Similarly feminism ultimately comes to agency or freedom regardless of gender. It doesn’t tell women to not be a trad wife, just that if a woman doesn’t want that, she has the fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:40 AM
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I think it depends on life stage. I high school it’s all looks and personality/popularity. Being rich /poor matters little unless there’s a big disparity or someone is notable different in one way or the other. College is similar but I think a small but bigger than high school percentage of women start thinking about stability /earning potential. Once you’ve got career women they start caring a bit more. I think the bar to clear for the most part is don’t be a burden. Most women aren’t looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:30 AM
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What did he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:24 PM
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How old are you? How are you trying to get dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:10 AM
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If a door to door salesman comes knocking I guess it’s kind of a privilege because it means you live in an area that’s safe enough and is more likely to have money. But do you have to like it? Not all attention is good but you can spin it as privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:45 AM
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Do you think it’ll be better if she just beat him up? She did something she knew would hurt him that’s technically not illegal and she had the ability to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:03 AM
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lol someone probably didn’t do so hot on their research papers. I guess good debating techniques aren’t needed in a sub with the word debate literally in the sub’s name. That’s kind of logical fallacy tactics (appeal to emotion, strawman, just to name the obvious) are often used by folks that can’t use the normal persuasive logical arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:43 PM
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Sentencing disparity across racial and gender lines should be stopped. https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing Seems like the black male is most likely to receive unfair treatment and the white female is most likely to receive leniency. But you leading with isolated cases of infanticide instead of general controlled research on similar crimes does not help you make your case. You should lead with even when controlled for factors there are bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:30 AM
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Does this hold up when it’s someone else’s kid? If a mom is killing her own kid vs she’s killing my kid makes a huge difference in her danger to society and how mentally stable she is. If she’s killing her own kid there’s usually some serious mental illness happening and the whole pleading insane has some merit. Do you have stats on female murders of equivalent crimes? If they’re getting off lighter I’d agree there’s problem. It’s also be interesting to see the stats broken down by race and gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:52 AM
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It’s less about money and more about negative vs positive. Yes, most women want a good man but while a good man is better than no man, no man is better than a bad man. Also in keeping with your wording for debating, you’re saying there’s supposedly some objective “quality” standard. The dating market is indeed a market. Not a school or university. In school if a teacher sets forth a rubric of knowledge and skills and they’re usually uniform. But there’s no objective standard in the real world. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:54 AM
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I get that men can’t wear make up or shape wear based on standards of beauty but like it or not (call it “cheating” if you will) women put more effort in their appearance. How many men even have a skin care routine? That’s not make up or clothes. It’s simple lotions and a serums etc. as we age if one gender puts on sun screen every day and the other doesn’t there will be a beauty gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:23 AM
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I’m talking people who likely won’t make good stable long term partners but still offer a thrill. women who write literally incarcerated men can live that fantasy while being relatively safe. And same for the guy with sex workers. She likely won’t bother you if you just leave and isn’t going to get emotionally attached to you. Deep down both know the relationship they’re pursuing isn’t going to pan out but it’s “safe” in they they can supposedly stop anytime with built in safe guards. This is di…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:27 AM
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I mean what’s the debate here? Some people have bad taste. How many guys try to date the prostitute and try to “fix” her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:34 AM
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There is a huge difference between noting differences between the genders at a sociological and historical level vs assuming stuff about an individual. If you look at the behavior of gay men vs gay women you can see a stark difference. And no, not every gay man is having anonymous bathhouse sex. And I’m sure there’s maybe lesbian sex clubs (someone let me know where) There’s the hook up behavior you see on Grindr and well there’s no lesbian equivalent (let me know if there is) But if straight me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:48 AM
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Do you have any sources? Is it like the lost city of Atlantis?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:34 AM
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So what’s your theory on who was there before the Egyptians and Mesopotamians as “civilization”? I would arugula native Americans before the Europeans were living fairly naturally. Humans aren’t noble savages or anything like that. We are designed to only feel a true connection with a few hundred people aka your tribe. You can see that reflected in today’s society too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:57 AM
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0 < positive number. 0 > negative number.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:49 PM
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Actually women’s gathering provided most of the food during the hinterland gathering period. I think when we started farming and we started to care about stuff like inheritance the men starts to care about stuff like their lineage and started being more possessive over their women and started treating them like property. Because mommy baby daddy maybe. So it definitely wasn’t women making demands to be served.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:12 AM
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What do you mean by “natural” ? Because we as a species have been around over hundred thousands years or so. We’ve been “civilized” for less than 10,000. So our hardwired instinct no longer serve us but we have changed our environment so much in the last millennia and never mind the last century. As far as science knows there’s a good Chan’s that we practiced fierce egalitarianism. Like we hunted and gathered as a group and sank or swam as a collective. Which is kind of like insurance. But obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:09 AM
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How old are you? All you say is millennial. Your situation is more common if you’re under 25 where you’re just looking for a fun time with no real thought about “where is this going?” Once you’re a bit older people start looking for people they could see a future with. They’re looking to see if that person could be “it”. If you’re not interested in building a future your pool of people who are interested in that will be significantly smaller. I would think that maybe someone who’s already been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 08:04 PM
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I think this would be no because of your caveat you can’t give the money to others. If it’s like a billion dollars it would be selfish of me to not sacrifice love /sex to give money to good causes. But if it’s just for me it’s more money than I could ever spend on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:05 PM
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I’m not sure better in nuanced enough. Maybe safer. I was waiting at a rural bus stop in the cold and a little old lady asked if I wanted to sit in her car to stay warm while I waited for my ride and she waited for the person she’s supposed to pick up. I don’t think a guy would have offered for fear of looking creepy and I don’t think she would have offered a guy. So yeah not sure how two guys would play out in a scenario like that but in a case like that two women are the only combo that would …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:50 AM
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That’s definitely not an office setting. I’m not sure if that’s the best example of this trend. She looks like a teen hanging out at the mall more than an office. If there are people actually wearing sexy secretary with plausible deniability I can see. But that’s not even “sexy secretary” level of office vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:42 PM
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And also with you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:00 PM
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Anecdotally from what I’ve seen and as another woman who gave an “ugly guy a chance” if there’s a significant gap in the attractiveness or at least in gen pop it leads to issues. It could lead to the guy treating the girl who’s supposedly out of his league as a gem because he knows it but then the woman starts expecting the Princess treatment all the time which isn’t sustainable in a team for the long term. It could also lead to the guy trying to tear down the girl so she’s made to feel bad so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:18 PM
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There are plenty of men we don’t hear about too. Unfortunately it seems like it’s just too common
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:36 AM
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Yeah and the debate is whether some women are complaining about perfectly fine food that’s maybe not as fresh or is it rotten that will give you food poisoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:59 PM
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So that shows that forgoing all men if the only ones that are available will give you food poisoning is valid. Unlike some guys who will go for the rotten woman just because they’re so thirsty. Women seem to be more willing to forgo without. Now the point of contention is that there’s plenty of guys who are clean water that’s not sparkling water who will hydrate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:52 PM
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But what about food that’s gone bad and stinks? I mean it’s not black and white and maybe some food past the date but not literally poison is ok but if it gives you food poisoning it’s better to just be hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:47 PM
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By first choice do you mean first chronologically or ranked currently ? If you mean the chronologically choice go look back to when you were a teen or a young 20s and what your priorities were. Often young people have different values than when they get older. If they’re still pursuing the bad guys as adults but they can’t because they’re getting rejected that’s one issue. The key difference is have they actually changed or if they’re still yearning for someone else. If their values changed and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:06 AM
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Yeah no logical single mom would want anything but someone enthusiastically dates her. Kids definitely become more complicated especially if they’re small enough to potentially see the guy as a dad figure. If you’re trying to get a serious relationship and you’re not all about kids it’s better for all parties involved that you’re not interested. I think it’s be different if the kids were older like teens and definitely if they’re adults and out the house
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:41 PM
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You can some what vet guys on online dating. You can meet people through friends but some random cute guy at a bar might not be into the same things or have same values. To go on a tangent I think that’s another sign that division has permeated the country. I’m middle aged and folks older than me often have mixed political ideologies (usually Republican husband, democrats wife) but you rarely see that in anyone much younger (ie got together/stayed together after trump ) But online dating lets yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:44 AM
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Yeah, the population is 50/50. Even in the trope meme 80/20 there’s a certain percent of guys who are supposedly desired. And you could argue the others are potential passport bros but they aren’t really hated. I’d wager most don’t even know and wouldn’t care if they did know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:10 AM
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I would say it’s a spectrum of inexperience vs experience but the traditional piv straight intercourse being some be all end all is a bit outdated. Like the poop hole loop hole kids are definitely not virgins. I feel like oral sex counts too. Same sex sex counts too. So I would say not having had a sexual experience involving open genitalia as a pretty safe catch all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:51 PM
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Definitely the last one. Everything else you negotiate and talk to your partner. Is just salsa dirty dancing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:27 PM
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It’s under false pretenses. Let’s go to the extreme. If someone lied about having hiv and you had sex with them are you upset? Let’s say a women claimed she’s on the pill so you don’t need protection. But she was planning to get pregnant hoping you’ll stay and take care of the baby. Mind you she said she just wanted to keep things casual. Now if she didn’t lie but the birth control failed, she’s not bad. But if she already knew she wasn’t on it and told you it was ok isn’t that a lie? It’s both …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:03 AM
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That’s because there’s no “court of law” proof of intent. If a guy was bragging to his buddies about how he got to bang a chick and is lol’ing about how he can’t believe she thought she could lock him down, that’s about as good as you’re going to get. On the flip side, it a girl is lol that she got this guy to take her out to dinner that excuse “uh, well I thought I’d like him better on a full stomach” isn’t going to cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:54 AM
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So basically this all comes down to the gray area of “intent”. Let’s do the two extremes where I think most reasonable people will think it’s one or the other. Let’s say a guy and a girl was dating. Both were pretty sure that the other one was special. After dating a bit, they had sex. For some reason or another the guy discovers a deal breaker. Maybe they’re not sexually compatible and like different things. That is, in fact, a very important aspect of the relationship and you really shouldn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:50 AM
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It’s definitely an issue when one party is much more sober than the other. It gets iffy when they’re both equally drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:10 PM
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Yeah, you can’t go into a relationship hoping anyone will change. Obviously people do change and grow and sometimes the relationship survives that. But if you’re set on changing them from the start, it’s over before it began.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:25 PM
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There’s a huge difference between a woman pining for an ex and is still messaging him etc vs. the guy assuming she’s not into him because he sees one of the exes as more alpha or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:40 PM
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I did. Neither will capture the female gaze. If one was better looking he’d get more swipes on tinder but that’s not the gotcha you think it was. And yes people don’t read the profile but that’s a tinder thing and not a women thing. Try making a profile of a hot woman saying crazy things and see how many guys swipe on her. So yeah the better looking guy will catch the female gaze on tinder where people largely just look at pictures. That’s not the gotcha you think it it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:16 PM
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I mean if you’re trying to prove something if people are swiping based on pictures and not knowing anything else I don’t think you’re really proving your point. I think one guy that’s really captured the female gaze for sure is Luigi Mangione. And the guys aren’t even mad about it. So yeah women like both good noble people and dangerous bad boys. But presenting two people with extreme traits in one and not the other and trying to prove something is moot. But if you want a recent example of who c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:06 PM
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Yeah, the guys who are spamming low quality messages to everyone isn’t helping but then there’s a negative feedback loop where you have to message as many as you can because you’re not getting anything. Problem is online dating sites are trying to make money. If there was some passion project where the goal is making good matches and not profit we could definitely make a better system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 09:35 PM
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It’s online dating where guys aren’t getting matches and when they do it’s often a mirage that disappears. Women get pelted with dtf? And nasty messages, downing out any dencent guy in the flood of swamp water. Maybe not for a more organic real life dating but in terms of perils of online dating the metaphor works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 10:31 AM
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I’ve heard for men it’s finding drinkable water in a desert. For women it’s drinkable water in swamp lands. At least for online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:54 AM
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Are women really talking about penises? lol. Most women aren’t that interested and usually they don’t say penis, they say dick. Most men refer to vagina as pussy and are pretty graphic too. The entire premise seems like a non-starter I read the title and expected why women at a magic Mike type show are given more leeway than men at stripe clubs and sexual harassment tolerance level when it’s female on male vs the opposite. That could have had some discussion. But the use of body parts ? That’s l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:55 PM
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There are men who also flip it with a woman that makes comparable money but still does less child care and house work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:59 PM
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I’d like to debate that you’re strawmanning there’s some “they” pushing unconditional love as the norm. Can you link some post? Even an anecdotal screen shot from some random on Facebook is fine. I haven’t seen this common. Like I’ve seen people highlights dating profiles that confirm their agenda (ie some women that’s conventionally unattractive demanding someone that’s 6’ and rich) but I haven’t seen people proclaim love should be unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:21 PM
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And honestly there’s plenty of abusive blood family that people should cut out that is bad but they don’t because of some weird loyalty. I’m talking abusive parents level that you’ve described. People don’t realize family is people who care about you and nurture you and you give back in a balanced way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:53 PM
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My hot take is that these guys just like to complain. Because in theory dating is a way to slowly get to know people and let people know about you. Start with what I like to call date 0. A coffee date where you could get stuff after but you can both walk away. A woman should be happy to have that no pressure date as a first one assuming it’s not someone you knew in a different context. If she wants something expensive then that’s a little weird. Most sane women want a way out in case the date ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:26 PM
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The core issue isn’t whether or not someone has to have obligations. It’s when a fetus becomes a person with certain rights. If you think that happens at conception, you’re likely prolife in that you think abortion is on the degree of murder. The mother has a parental obligation to carry the child. If you think official personhood and rights that go without start at birth you get support and obligations of being supported. No one questions if a baby that’s born and out of the womb is a person wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:10 AM
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The progressive women aren’t feminizing men. Being against toxic masculinity isn’t being against positive masculinity. Even the stereotype that right wingers hee haw about left guys white knighting is supposedly masculine. So I guess I agree in this debate? But the premise I’m arguing is being is against toxic masculinity isn’t feminizing men. For example: toxic masculinity: I’m angry so I punch a wall. Positive masculinity: I’m angry so I speak up instead of being a spineless coward. Toxic femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:23 AM
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The wolves know who’s crying wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:15 PM
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Damn you did your hw. Love how op isn’t responding here for all the verbosity he’s shown there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:04 AM
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The media coverage isn’t really mgtow but the incels. The incels are the louder and more raucous group so it kind of makes sense in that they go for the most sensational sound bites. But the general public is comparing incels vs 4B as opposed to mgtow which I doubt anyone not in a certain circle have heard of. While incels are known (think that guy that that did the attacks in Toronto or Elliot Rodgers as what people think on when they think incel) Like it or not people use the most extreme to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:31 AM
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I think it comes to the Ockham’s razor stereotypes exist for a reason that women sit around and braid each other’s hair and talk and support each other. It’s a trope at this point (think rich and Morty I’m here if you need to talk) but it is based on reality. Now is it every woman? No. Does it mean men can’t have friendships where they can get support from each other? No. But the gap is big enough to be noticeable. It shows that the patriarchy hurts guys too. I wouldn’t want our boys being taugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:07 AM
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So if the guy just wants to use you as a flesh light it doesn’t feel any better than a girl using you as a wallet. Now you could argue the guy might want more than that, she doesn’t know, while the prostitute definitely knows what’s up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:21 PM
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It’s reversed for women in validation of sex vs relationship. Because if it really was just about sex men can just pay and escort and they can get sex. But it’s not just about sex, it’s being wanted and not just for money so that’s why prostitutes are not fulfilling. Conversely, some men hitting on them hoping for sex is about as valuable to a woman as an escort willing to sleep with them for money for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:44 PM
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By relationship I mean the traditional romantic/sexual kind. There’s plenty of platonic relationships women form and are quite content with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:20 AM
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The key difference is incel vs volcel. Women are more willing to be celibate and actually go their own way as in live a rich fulfilling life sans relationships. People actually going their own way don’t hangout under that banner. They hangout in their niche hobby groups or at a community center etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:21 AM
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I think it’s that women are a lot more willing and able to gtow without crying about it. There’s no name for it because people who are actually gtow are hanging out in r/yoga or r/dance r/crafts etc whatever hobbies that are much more women heavy. I suppose there’s the 4B that’s just taking off but that seems more reactionary to the election. There’s a lot of women simply not dating and are able to be happier than men about it. Also there are plenty of couples of varying degrees of attractive pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:16 AM
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I’m saying abuse but no complaint can be silent victims and can be explained but violent deaths are a lot less and can’t be explained by under reporting unless people are covering up murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:15 AM
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So you’re right on the arrests (the cops fail to arrest the abusive woman or the guy doesn’t even call because he knows it’s futile) but how about the number of men killed by women in domestic violence situations? Are you going to say there’s lots of murders and hospital records being covered up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:38 AM
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What effects are you seeing? He hasn’t even taken office yet. I’m sure there’s lots they could potentially do if left unchecked but what’s changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:05 PM
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I think the issues are that men are assumed to be the default. Now that hurts men too, but we have causes that help the homeless. Helps cancer patients. Helps veterans. So helping the needy is helping men too. Now there are some issues that are particular to women so they become women’s issues. Men’s issues are just issues. However there are particular aspects of gender nuance that affects men because of their gender and it should be addressed. Sexism/patriarchy hurts men too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:12 PM
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Old ok Cupid was great with the personality tests. It’s the death rattle of the old school fun passion project vs profitization/corporatization of the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:35 AM
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I think it’s good to have options. If you can choose to be a sahm and you agree together and you can afford it great. If you are stuck that’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:02 PM
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Intelligence beyond being interesting to talk to is a means to an end in the lens of attractiveness. So the capacity to appreciate intelligence is basically limited to other people of similar intellect. But even then intelligence doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be interesting. You would be more likely to keep up with any topic and ask engaging and interesting questions but the topics that you’re knowledgeable in or are interested in might not interest your date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:59 PM
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Yup, this. If you analyze dating site behavior, not by the number of men but by the number of man x hours you’ll see why the less desirable men (either for physical or behavioral or both reasons) are the ones hanging out there putting in the most man hours. It’s really the same complaint that a lot of monogamous women complain that all the attractive guys are poly on dating sites. Poly men would be more like to put in man hours on the dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:28 AM
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Yeah, if she was like “too bad that exiting guy wasn’t willing to settle down, I guess you’ll do” that’s 100% understandable. But if she went “ew, what a loser he’s got to get it together” at the “exciting guy” and was gaga over “safe guy” as so sweet and how awesome and thoughtful worked hard to keep you because she sees you as high value I think it’d be different. I guess the female equivalent is being the sexy bombshell that has all the guys staring. I get the fantasy of being the sexy danger…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:04 AM
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I think safe isn’t the best word. It’s being option B. If a woman valued whatever “safety” represented above all else and was super appreciative and thought she lucked out and treats you accordingly, and devalued looks as yeah whatever, I guess it’s nice but it’s not really substance, I don’t think a guy would mind. It’s just that the safe guys are resenting being seen as second fiddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:38 AM
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The gap boils down to the men’s demand /willingness to have more casual sexual relationships and women’s willingness to do the same. So yes women are more in demand for casual situations which creates value. The use of the word value is clouding the assertion as overall the genders value different things when it comes to short term. I think long term there is a convergence and there are comparable value but there’s a big gap at the casual level. And obviously there plenty of gray between the bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 12:58 PM
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The only place I’ve seen that term used by actual women is fetlife where you lead with your fetish. But I have never seen that anywhere else where people weren’t explicitly gathering around a particular kink. There’s also a group dedicated to sph so there’s something for everyone there I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:05 AM
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We have to decide what “accept” means in this case. Plenty of men are willing to sleep with fat women but won’t be seen publicly with one. She essentially is good enough for a hook up but not a relationship. I guess there’s no real equivalent for a poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:14 AM
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It’s not the desire, it’s the action that should be made to feel shame. That’s within someone’s control. Shaming something that’s not within a person’s control is just judgmental and does not contribute anything productive. It will not lead to less crimes. Admitting the desire and knowing it can lead to bad outcomes and controlling that is much more productive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:10 PM
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That would be them acting on their desires. The original point of having a desire in of itself is not shameful. It’s acting on it when it’s not welcome. That is at the theoretical level. In practice men are more likely to act on this unwelcome desire at a violent level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:52 PM
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What makes an advance welcome or unwelcome is obviously up for debate and there’s definitely different levels of politeness/decorum when hitting on someone where you don’t know if the advances are welcome or not It doesn’t matter how hot you are you probably shouldn’t hit on someone at a funeral of a loved one. On the flip side, even if the hitter is ugly, the person getting hit on is an asshole they reject someone with unnecessary levels of vitriol. (Like someone offers to buy you a drink at a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:47 PM
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It’s all in the reception of the desire . Obviously feelings and desires are fine. But if the desire is welcome then you can act on it and you won’t be shamed. If it’s not welcome no one can shame you for having the desires but if you start making your desires other people’s problem then you will get push back and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:01 PM
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Also I’ve seen enough Reddit posts where the messenger gets shot. I would intervene especially if the cheatee was closer to me and stumble on the infidelity. If I don’t know the partner well, I might drop an anonymous note on ig or messenger or even through a Google voice with whatever evidence I have. If they had no inkling they might not believe an anonymous note but if they already suspected it’d validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:41 AM
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A->B does not mean A ->~ C The statement if you are a woman you have been sexually harassed by a man doesn’t negate the statement if you’re a woman you have been harassed by a woman. To put it simply, pretty much all women have been harassed by a man. Some of those women have also been harassed by a woman. We can debate what the percentage is but your statement does not negate the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:47 PM
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They don’t want to bring a child into poverty. Now we could debate if all the “extras” are necessary like classes, preschool programs, etc that are the keeping up with joneses of kids. But even diapers and clothes they out grow every year get expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:10 PM
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The basic line is no adult is entitled to resources from another. But at the same time all adults are entitled to freedom from harassment from another. It’s basically the line between freedom to vs freedom from if you expect people to expend energy to help you vs you wanting people to stop expending energy to harm you. Ie sure a man isn’t obligated to step in and help a woman getting mugged and more than the reverse. The mugger isn’t entitled to that person’s money. Same thing with smaller thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:09 PM
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So how would you teach guys? What lessons would you give a 12-13 year old boy? What about when they’re 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:44 AM
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It seems like your post would have earned you less grief if it was titled“I hate women who demand expensive first dates but am glad that they show themselves the door before I get too invested “
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:38 PM
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It depends on whether it’s single by choice. If he’s single because no one wants him and he’s crying about it he’s not going to get respect. If he’s single by choice and going around living his best life no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:01 AM
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The modern aspect is that the woman is also working. When it used to be that the man worked he didn’t help with the house of just the manly chores. We could argue how fair it was if a mom could never clock out the dad should work half the time he’s home do they split leisure time etc but there was a discussion to be had. But if you’re working equal hours and making comparable pay then the home chores need to be split.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:05 PM
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Yeah if they want to be consistent even according to their own internal standards, if there’s a wife beater, there should be a single mom in this selection. Not saying they’re equal in being bad but to the average red piller both of those would be “just as bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:52 PM
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It’s not dissimilar to people who are anti choice. They make all the assertions about how it’s about the kid but don’t back it up. It’s less about them being against or for but more about just not dancing around behind bs reasons. If people are like I won’t date a single mom because I’m not interested in being always after their kids, fine. But don’t pretend because you actually care about the kid and how it’s bad. Similarly, if you just mask off and say you want to make women suffer for breakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:56 AM
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Do you have a source for that? I don’t think the gen pop is higher. Or are the numbers inflated because the number of victims are so high because they’re allowed to offend over and over again? But it does seem like a vow that a lot of people who are attracted to kids would take with a vow of celibacy. But they just end up offending because they have access to kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:45 AM
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So women wanting to go in the work force and vote isn’t equal responsibility? What’s something you think only benefits women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:20 PM
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There’s a huge difference between potential income/status vs potential qualities. Someone who’s might not have the best job/income but his intelligence, personality and values mesh with yours has potential to make money and have a comfortable life. He might or may not make a lot of money but you know he’s not going to just stop working and leech off of you. The potential is the job and income but you’re not counting on potential for personality and values. He already has those qualities. Then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:49 PM
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When feminists fight for gender equality it benefits men too. I’m talking the guy whose gf punched him and the male cops show up and lol at him and call him a pussy. If feminists protested against the cop they’re not likely to listen. Feminists can fight for better training for dv cases and include cases where the victim is male. Will there be more cases of women in dv cases? Yes. But helping women will help men too. Feminists fight for better maternity leave? It leaves it easier for paternity l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:52 PM
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Is it that they want to sleep with a bunch of guys in their youth and settle down with the nice guy trope which is the flip side of the get it out of my system and get a virgin ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:36 PM
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There’s a difference between stopping searching and not being open to it. How would you define stopping searching? Not being on dating sites/going out to singles night? Or rejecting getting coffee with a guy with promise from a hiking club that she had a great conversation with ? It’s the similar advice we give to guys, you’ll find someone when you stop looking. I agree it is a platitude but it does have a grain of truth in its intention. You’ll find someone when all your activities aren’t geare…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:04 PM
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They both sound boring and annoying. This is why there’s complaints on both sides. The pairs that deserve each other can’t tolerate someone that’s comparable to them either. In dating you’re not bored, you’re boring. Obviously there are people that are like talking to a wall but that adage stands for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:18 PM
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It’s about valuing free time. If you’re actually partners and not room mates you use backwards design. It’s about how much free time you have at the end of the day. If she’s busy taking care of the kids during the day the husband should help when he gets home. If he’s allowed to have an evening a week to himself, so does she. This does become iffier without kids. I can’t imagine a house without kids needs maintenance to the point of more than 40 hours a week. But there’s is a big big difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:30 AM
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Is it really a binary though? You can’t tell if one’s more attractive than another? Or if it’s a smash or not, smash regularly on a consistent basis vs it’s been a long dry spell and she’s not awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:56 PM
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This case study of one is an anomaly. But the women Sharon one high value men is a more common phenomena when they’re younger and they are one of the high value guy’s options. The guy is reluctant to have his assortment of women who are willing to have sex with him to try to lock him down and hoping to be committed to him. However this isn’t really the case they’re older like your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:48 PM
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Well there’s your answer. Women’s standard for casual allow them to swing high for casual. Girls who might be interested in a relationship with you is likely more attractive than girls willing to just do casual. Your ability to pull girls is decreased relatively no matter how attractive you are if you’re only looking for casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:48 AM
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I have a hard time understanding your use of the word “legal”. Of course that’s ok. Freedom of assembly and association and all that. But what’s legal and what exist are definitely not the same. There’s a lot less men’s spaces similar to women’s spaces. But there are there in niches. What are you looking for? Sports teams with men exist as do religious organizations having men’s space. You can find community online too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:39 PM
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I mean she preferred non dysphoria so it’s hard to compare. I never explicitly asked her that but my bet from her stories is that professionally guys have it easier. You’re taken more seriously and you’re given respect. As a woman you have to earn respect and they want you to prove yourself (she was in tech so ymmv depending on the industry ) But socially women have it easier. People trust you and are nicer to you. Men have to earn trust /affection and you have to prove you’re cool and not a thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:25 PM
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My ex is mtf trans and she has unique insight into how society treats you. She said the bad part is that her coworkers who are pretty progressive started talking over her and mansplaining to her at meetings. These are people that knew her and didn’t do these things before. They are super good with using her new name and pronouns and were in fact friendlier to her in terms of small talk. She said having a female name signature also made people question her authority in emails. The flip side is sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:36 PM
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The question is so different based on whether it’s black , grizzly, or polar bear. Their threat levels are so different it might as well as be asking do you want to be alone with an animal or a man? Ok animal. Are we talking cougar or chipmunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:38 PM
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The effects is there that men continue to have top ceo jobs and get elected President etc. When a women vies for those positions she gets extra scrutiny/more objections/her gender becomes a topic of discussion (whether good or bad) Now the average man doesn’t benefit a whole lot but still gets the suspicion cast on him because we can’t tell who’s a serial killer. Ted bundy was good looking and charismatic. But there’s also plenty that “look” like serial killers. And some that look just unassumin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:06 PM
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I think it’s the ripple effect of the most terrible people are men. So let’s say the odds of a guy being a killer/rapist/violent etc is .000001% but a woman’s is .00000001%. The odds of a random guy being worse than a bear is that low. But the news likes to report sensational stories and men are 100x likelier to have committed those acts. It’s all in how you frame it. Men are only .00000099% likelier to offend than a woman or men are 100x likelier to offend than a woman. Obviously real stats wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:31 AM
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No one is attracted to every single human on earth equally regardless of age/gender/physical attributes/personality etc. Now that we’ve established that no one is equally attracted to everyone, we can question if certain criteria are nice to have vs need to have. The only way something could be invalid might be if someone really never questioned why a preference exists and are following it blindly. For example I teach high school. There’s a funny popular kid, let’s call him John, and he’s like 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:13 PM
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It’s anecdotal but most two parent house holds I know have mom with the kids during the week while dad gets every other weekend + some vacations. I’m sure the stats skew in favor of moms having more custody. Thus dating a divorced dad means you will play the fun aunt type deal but you are far less likely to have to parent even if things get serious. On the flip side dating a mom with primary custody is taking on more. But that is in the dating realm. I’m sure socially speaking single men, regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:23 PM
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My ex who was mtf worked in coding at a tech company. She said after transitioning she got a lot more smiles and people would hold doors for her and generally friendlier treatments Her company is great in being accepting and after a little bit of mistakes they gendered her correctly. What she didn’t anticipate was her coworkers and other tech consultants etc would talk over her, mansplain and also question her judgement. Keep in mind these were coworkers that knew her pre transition. Literally w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:41 PM
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Most of the makes sense but where would men be targeted for mugging over women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:36 PM
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I’ve read men socialize more based on activities and just being in each other’s company while doing a third activity while women are more comfortable just getting lunch and chatting with each other with no external activity to keep them occupied. I feel like the latter definitely adapts better to the modern world. You can text someone and chat and get some of the socializing itch scratched and you’d feel a bond. But with guys it’s much harder to get that online unless you’re gaming and playing c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:19 AM
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How would they know? Would the noob women not know not to go for a jog at night in a bad neighborhood? Aren’t guys afraid of getting mugged? How would noob men be a target? If anything won’t they be more cautious than the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:14 AM
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I can see women being physically weaker and not realizing their new limits causing accidents at work places that are strength based. But how does criminal violence go up? Like former women on T failing will saves to punch someone? I have read an anecdotal story of an ftm starting T and said he gets it not. It obviously doesn’t excuse sexual assault or any kind of violence but he said damn I have these new urges to just punch someone in the face or desire to just grab a woman. Before transitionin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:12 AM
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What do you mean? Like they’ll just off themselves? And op did said including brains, so I take that to mean you’re not going to be dysphoric. I only people I see have a serious disruption are men in strength based jobs where if they were in a similar percentile for women, would not be able to do their jobs. Maybe there’s other logistics too but I’m assuming the magical gender swap fairy changed your clothes to comparable ones that fit your needs body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:05 AM
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Yeah the mortality rate being that high is crazy. And they op specified it’s your genders brain so you have memories but not dysphoria. If you’re willing to suspend disbelief for the magic gender swapping fairy hypothetical but draw the line at not transferring dysphoria I don’t know what to tell you. The biggest issues would be men who were in strength based jobs now being in a comparable percentile for women. If you can lift /climb /move as a fast or as much that would be a serious disruption …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:57 AM
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I think the big issue is if the countries in question are much lower in standard of living. If I’m one country you have indoor plumbing and health care and in the other doesn’t it’s hard to say two people have a balanced and equal footing. It’s not the same as just having different incomes. That happens within the same country too. There’s the find Russian bride type deal where people are trying to get out. Now that’s also buyer beware because I’ve heard of these brides faking it until they’re p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:28 AM
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The right move is getting to know them “organically” if you have that luxury. I’m assuming it’s meeting irl and not online dating. So you can get to know them wherever that common stomping ground is. Ex: meet at the bar because she’s a friend of a friend and she was invited. You had a fun chat. You are pretty ok to ask for a number and ask her then. But you can hold off too, especially if you want to do your hw and ask about her. The moment to disclose is probably when you start going out of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:40 PM
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I suspect a lot of these guys aren’t honest in the “I had no feelings of attraction until I got to know her and saw her awesome personality”. If he just asked her out without the whole song and dance people will be less frustrated. It would be a win win too because he can move on if he really had no intention of being just a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:56 AM
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But it’s not direct friendship interaction. The “organic” interaction is like a “hey” in math class and becoming the cute guy at math class that sit behind you. Or the friend of a friend that you sometimes sees at get togethers. It’s definitely grey but the issue is when you actively approach offering friendship instead of asking her on a date. My stance is calling bs on the supposed “organic” I just naturally started to develop feeling because she’s such an awesome friend and person. If she’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:52 AM
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But the issue is that the guy is also spiting his own social circle. This all hinges on the good faith premise of the “I initially felt no sexual/romantic attraction but then I realized because her personality was so great I fell in love”. If that’s not actually true and the story is more along the lines of “I wanted to ask her out but I thought it would be easier if I tried to just be her friend and then ask her out after that friendship is cemented” then it makes sense for the guy to leave if …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:27 AM
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If you read the commenter’s premise where the person was so awesome in personality it doesn’t make sense to throw away the friendship. A good friend who’s got your back and you can talk freely to is rare and it’s not worth tossing. Now if a guy asks out a girl and then moves on after the fact no one will fault him. If the guy wasn’t actually interested in friendship and was just using that to ask the girl in slow motion, moving on is logical for him, even if it’s frustrating for all parties. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:20 AM
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By that logic he was not deriving and benefit from the prior friendship that voids the initial premise. I am taking the original commenter’s argument in good faith where they said they organically grew to like the person because they liked the person’s personality etc. While no one is entitled to anyone’s anything, if someone is that awesome cutting someone off because they didn’t reciprocate your feelings isn’t logical. It would make sense if you just wanted to get with them and was secretly tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:12 AM
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But if they really like the person then asking for a cooling off period and then retaining that friendship is possible and desirable. I think the biggest issue is the fact that they don’t want to be friends anymore after. It’s one thing to not be friends with an ex but if even exes can be friends if there was no betrayal the lack of let’s be friends after is really what brings up the issue. It’s not like someone got cheated on and you don’t ever want to talk to them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:28 AM
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We had to wait until 35/32 until we were financially stable enough for kids. Student loans paid down, approved for a mortgage etc. If we could have had that stability 5 years earlier sure but there’s no way we could have afforded kids without bringing them into poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:15 PM
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Being your best self and being a good person is all you need for the right person. Obviously no pill says you’re guaranteed to get anyone and everyone. Your logic that the friend zone shouldn’t exist is basically saying everyone needs to find everyone that’s a good person attractive? Of course not everyone is going to be attracted to everyone. But for the right person being yourself and being a good person should be enough. Assuming you’re looking for a long term thing. If you’re looking for a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:56 AM
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I think in the day to day women might be more willing to be a little mean/snippy (think bumbling husband trope and how that’s ok but not the reverse) but that doesn’t come anywhere near women who are literally killed or hospitalized by their partners. The men can scream male victims of dv aren’t taken seriously and yeah that’s an issue but how many end up dead or in the hospital? When dating and meeting people men worry women will nag and emasculate him/reject him. Women worry about the guy stal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:24 PM
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So do you want to make it illegal for anyone to enter into one/arrange one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:52 PM
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And I know some Indian couples who are fairly happy with their choice and didn’t feel coerced. But they’re upper class so like anything the outcome is worse, especially for women, in poor/uneducated areas. But I’m willing to bet things dv and abuse are fairly common even in non arranged marriages in comparable poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:30 PM
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Not as black and white if they make it clear that the two should be married minded. It means they can bail if they don’t think it’ll work out but you have, in theory, the assurance this person is on the same page and is looking for marriage and not just dating around “to see what happens”. They are evaluating the relationship with the lens of “will this be a good marriage”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:04 PM
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Like anything intent and nuance matters. If a guy slowly realizes he had feeling after being friends for a while the whole confession thing is fine. What’s creepy would be if he immediately tried to be your friend with the intent of trying to get close to be with you romantically. What’s different? It’s because in one the friendship was on equal footing initially and in the other it already started unbalanced with intentions hid. If you like a girl and she’s in your acquaintance circle you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:43 AM
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Who’s eating all that and staying thin? I get forgetting to eat all day and eating one meal of Cheetos and a Big Mac is unhealthy but you can probably stay thin. But a meal like that all day? Maybe if you only eat once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:43 AM
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Yeah it’s like some big revelation that came crashing down instead of processing it in 6th grade that some kids were smarter/stronger/better looking than others. Is is just my generation but isn’t it practically a tv trope that the asshole jock gets the hot cheerleaders and the nerdy guys get nothing and nerdy girls don’t even get to be in the movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:01 AM
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I think you’re right in that a lot of the people that are the most vocal about not having sex likely don’t have a great friends network. But it’s semi socially acceptable to complain about a lack of partner while complaining about no friends is even a step down in the “I feel like a total loser” category. But if they addressed that first they’ll be in a much better place to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:53 AM
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But that’s what they’re supposed to do. But there’s the “daddy isssues” classic where the father was literally or emotionally absent that’s almost as ubiquitous as the he’s the house leader/disciplinarian trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:37 AM
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I don’t get why a guy couldn’t frame it as a fun activity for the whole family. Ancestry.com had a good website that goes with the kits. That way there’s zero accusation and there’s an excuse of ancestry to do it. And some screen for medical stuff too. You could also learn a lot just by the reaction of the woman. If she’s like oh that’s fun or bored but if it makes you happy whatever, those are the range of normal reactions. Any real strong push back would definitely be a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:48 PM
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I don’t get how you can’t just do a just for fun fun ancestry test to ally your fears. That way it’s not accusatory and it’s something everyone can do. It’ll also prevent things like the guy thought the woman cheated but the maternity test came back negative and the baby was switched at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:19 AM
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Getting a paternity test would have fixed that. But I think it was before 23 and me type things were easy and relatively cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:16 AM
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Hell why not do a 23 and me for fun? I know it’s not court order level robust but what’s the odd of a false positive? If it’s negative then get the more robust one because yeah they could make a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:15 AM
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Stay fit. Lift and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:29 AM
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Yeah. Emmett till comes to mind. Such an awful story of a child. It breaks my heart. And I’m sure it’s just the tip of the ice berg. There are countless more that never went reported. Or were reported snd ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:37 PM
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False rape accusations. It’s really only a very very small percent of sociopath women. They’re also pretty put together in that they weren’t actually raped so they don’t have to feel any of the shame /trauma of reliving it. Obviously they hurt the men they’re accusing but they also hurt real victims. Some times people use the argument why would people lie about it when it’s hard to come forward. Well the reason it’s hard is because A : you have to relive and retell your trauma. If you didn’t act…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:29 AM
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Attractive dudes > attractive girls > unattractive girls > unattractive dudes. We can debate what the spit of unattractive and attractive is but the meme is 20/80. The men are the ceos and presidents and super athletes etc but they are more likely to be homeless /suicide/prison. I think it comes down to testosterone is an amplifying hormone. Whatever you do it cranks it up. Obviously this is a generalization only on a large population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:56 AM
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You really have to be a special level of ugly to not buy beauty as a rich girl. Look at Paris Hilton. She’s is very average. But she can afford clothes hair stylists nutritionists etc. has time to work out. In a country that has 70% overweight just being fit will catapult you to above average. Even if you were facially terrible you can get surgery for that. These trust fund level girls will cry about not being top tier model hot but they can easily be top tier hot if they have a lot of money. Ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:54 AM
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Oop isn’t just saying being an attractive women is privileged…they’re asserting it’s the highest level of privilege. I 100% acknowledge pretty privilege exists and that women are better at exploiting that than guys. But even in your statement the trust fund guys are choosing who’s the prettiest. Who has more power there? The big point of contention is the word “highest” in op’s statement. It’s nothing new in the privilege hierarchy that’s been pretty well established. Attractive guy > attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:47 AM
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But it’s not more privileged than being born into the money. They’re the choosers while you’re vying for their approval
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:43 AM
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Yeah these guys complain about femcels who only want to sleep with guys with certain conditions. But then when they have conditions they’re like it’s not the same if you have to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:08 PM
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I mean it really comes down to what type of women they’re attracting. The pool of women you unlock is the younger women who are looking for an older guy who will take care of them. I’m sure there might be some older ones too but the women in the cohort with that mentality probably already got married to an older guy for them. And the other older women are already established was doing something to keep themselves afloat through last 10+ years so aren’t necessarily looking for a sugar daddy. So y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:44 AM
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They think male attention is a good thing. It’s really not unless you’re some influencer or OF model. Which is also part of why guys get salty over women do do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:32 AM
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Yes, there’s big difference between I’m going to date someone uninteresting and sucks and I’m going to decide height, being a certain astrological sign, making x figures isn’t all the important. It’s called growing up and lots of guys don’t get it. At the most extreme a 16 year old with a crush on the guy because he’s cute and is a starter on the football AND basketball team and has a car! And he’s a senior! Would those standards make any sense not in hs? Now there’s different standards as you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:11 AM
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Yes and we don’t have the exact data either way in whether they’re being settled for and are happy. Until we know what percentage is happy or more importantly happier than they would be single, the fact that they’re together doesn’t refute the poster’s claim. Her claim was she doesn’t want to be settled for so she’d rather be single. If you can show the millions of women being dated and treated well then you have refuted her claim. If she’s not then her claim stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:04 AM
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Most women aren’t you have to make 100k+ but they do want a guy who makes the same basic life style. Women don’t have pretty women fantasies where they’re doing the rescuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:13 PM
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Actually monogamy is not programmed into us. If you look at mating habits of the great apes it is very likely everyone mated with everyone more or less. And definitely not monogamous. But we don’t need and anthropologist to explain humans aren’t wired to be monogamous by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:48 AM
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But they will put their hat in the ring to try and bag “chad”. Or the guy is leading several girls on. You always hear guys with secret families but never girls. It one takes a few to cover the disparity someone is talking about in a prior comment. Also while many women eventually want that many aren’t looking for anything serious and don’t necessarily want monogamy all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:45 AM
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It’s because there’s a certain subset of people who are weirdly turned on by criminals. Especially notorious ones that reach serial kill in headlines status. There’s also the prison penpal thing where it’s a fantasy where you don’t actually have to meet them and you can play relationships with them. But I can see how a few of those could turn serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:42 AM
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I think you’re lumping all the stereotype and hate into one big category. The same people aren’t assuming these things. They do become the direct victim of Islamophobia for obvious reasons of declaring their faith from general bigots that just hate all non white Christians. There’s also dudes that just fetishize them for the same reason there’s a category for every race/age/body type/rule 34 so there’s no reason to think they’ll be exempt from this and be held sacred. I’m from a community that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:11 AM
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This. It’s less about the preferences and how they let it be known. Quietly swipe left on the fat girl. No one knows and no one can even prove that’s why. Rant about how all fatties should swipe left in the profile itself ? Even many thin/ fit girls are gonna pass on that. Also people confuse personal preference with decrees. I want and can afford a trad sahm arrangement. Looking for a woman who wants that same! No need to shame that. Women belong in the kitchen and society is going down hill be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:10 PM
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It depends on how attractive they are. I’m 40 where you start reaching wild variances in who took care of themselves and who didn’t. I’d date a fit and energetic 50 over starting a downward trend “you can’t just get by on being young” 35. Also by my age experiences are so varied that the +/- 10 isn’t as big a deal as when you’re mid 20s. When I was lower to mid 20s there’s not much I could relate to with someone much past 30. I was still navigating what it means to be an adult and not on railroa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:03 AM
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I don’t get what the advantage of nudging the niece into a relationship is in that scenario. If the man got tired of the aunt why would she want the person that dumped her around? I can aaaaaalmost see it if she got bored of a fling with him because he’s too young but he’s a nice young man so she thinks he’s good for a “real” relationship with her niece. But then that’s a few steps removed with no real guarantee of results if a guy wants to get with the niece so he uses the aunt to get to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:09 AM
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attractiveness level is defined and pronounced for the most/least attractive but the middle is pretty uniform. So you’re probably noticing the pretty girls whose hobbies are looking pretty sitting together and possible the ugly girls being shunned by everyone else so they’re friends via being ostracized by everyone else. Most of the middle attractiveness girls sit together by interest because otherwise there’d be a huge group of the middle girls sitting together in one giant table that’s not big…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:17 AM
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Yeah. Less creepy and more “gold digger” is the insult that’s slung but equally bad in terms of deviating from true love. Now if the guy is on to it he can just have fun and take advantage of the situation and promise nothing. He can have a vasectomy and bring his own protection etc and proceed with caution. But the power dynamics where the woman has the power is probably where she has orbiters that she takes advantage of without promising anything. That’s probably the more abusive power dynamic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:26 PM
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Someone making $100k targeting someone making $25k and talking about how that’s a selling point is creepy. If they met at a concert and they discovered financials later it would be one thing but if he saw her working a poverty job and that was the attraction that’d be creepy. Age is easier to suss out so you have less deniability. 100k to 50k is more like 50 dating 30. One you hit 25-30 it’s really not that creepy to date any age. It’s because by then the younger partner has figured out how to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:54 AM
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So the reason for the harsher penalties for men come down to similar prejudices. If we look at base prejudices that exist in society who gets fetishized and stereotyped the most based on gender and race? The big black cock and small submissive Asian woman. So similarly the sentencing gets harsher for men because they are seen as scarier and more threatening and doubly so for black men. Men get harmed from the stereotypes that they are aggressive and strong just like women get harmed from the pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:17 AM
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I mean if you’re looking at the whole sentencing thing then aren’t women above men? Also black men receive harsher penalties white men. By your definition then black men are superior than white men because they get harsher treatment? Or are they getting crappier treatment and are worse off? I’ll give you that men tend to be more extreme while women tend to be more in the middle. The deviance from the norm, whether it’s for better or worse seems to be higher in men. I would argue the reason many …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:35 AM
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I think paying for the first date and doing house work are not equivalent. The equivalent would be the guy is expected to pay on the first date and the women are expected to doll up. Both are pressures that they feel the they don’t have to follow but feel they need to because it’s expected of them. The other equivalent would be the man being expected to be the primary/higher earner then the woman is expected to do more house work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:39 PM
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I do feel for guys who don’t want kids that no matter how much you communicate and discuss and talk it out a woman can choose to keep the kid in an unwanted pregnancy. But I guess it come down to choose wisely. Because the opposite is true too but not as much. There usually is no clear communication and being on the same page if a guy bails on a pregnancy. The only thing for that might be avoid religious women of women who might have that guilt ingrained in her via religion that she got over wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:30 AM
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I met my husband at 32, married at 34, kid at 35 second kid at 37. Now 40 with toddlers and I’m not much worse for the wear than younger moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:23 AM
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I think it’s online dating. Women are attracted to personality and status more than man. They are obviously picky physically but charisma and money and status increases actual attraction in women. Not good digging I’ll tolerate this fat guy for his money but actually getting turned by the power/status of a guy. Think about how Elon musk is perceived. There’s plenty of women who find him genuinely attractive. Not Urgh hws ugly as sin but he’s a billionaire so yeah I guess I’ll sleep with him. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:38 AM
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The funny thing is it’s all in how you spin it. Women could complain that there’s never the opposite of beauty and the beast and women can’t afford to not be pretty and still get love while men could literally be a beast and still get a pretty girl falling for you. If you’re wearing the lens of women bad that’s all you’ll see. But that applies to women who’s wearing the “men bad” glasses who would make complaints like above. Or sleeping beauty where the titular princess is helplessly waiting for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:59 AM
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Yeah I’ve seen this brought up on parenting subs. The general consensus seems to the best thing is to let the communication channels be open and incite the partner to dinner and want to engage in it and make sure she’s not isolated. In one thread the guy was almost the dad’s age so people were suggesting he start talking about old people stuff and reminisce lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:45 PM
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What’s the gap? 56 and 40 is hugely different from 36 and 20. I’m 40 and I can’t imagine dating anyone under 28 when they basically got past the adult adolescence stage. At 18-28, the first years of your adult life, you are teenager + in terms of figuring things out. I’d feel way too much like a mentor instead of an equal partner with them. But going up, assuming someone kept themselves in decent shape I’d be ok with 15+ years. I mean after a certain age thought looking decent and not an old lad…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:18 PM
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A parent of an 18 year old who’d dating someone 30+? I know you can’t prohibit them but you’d be perfectly fine with letting your kid date someone that much older and you wouldn’t look at that relationship closer than just another 18-22 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:09 PM
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It really depends on the age and gap. Like a 55 and 40 is not even an eye brow raise. 35 and 20 seems more “let’s take a closer look”. In the end people are free to date whoever once they are 18 but there’s a big difference between government getting involved and the 18 year old’s mom/dad getting involved when they bring home someone whose age is more appropriate for their 45 year old parent to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:07 PM
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3 if they make men’s behavior so it no longer warrants that fear. I know not all men but like the 5% of guys are harassing 100% of the girls. If the girl says no the guy is guaranteed to say have a nice day and move along instead of hurling insults/threatening violence. It is the small but not insignificant percentage of guys that ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:42 PM
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That makes no sense. If he’s on the birth certificate he should have the same rights as the mom. Do those countries require 2 for every medical procedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:13 PM
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This. There’s a big difference between mandatory /opt out vs routine/normalized. There’s nothing stopping dads from cheek swabbing their kid and sending it off discretely. This could spark a fight if they go around but you can get ancestry kits for fun now so you don’t even have to frame it so it’s coming from a place of mistrust. And while they’re not 100% it’s good enough for allaying fears/getting more testing. And there’s plausible deniability of just wanting to see what the kids inherited. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:10 PM
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Not really except having a little more compassion for the dudes who aren’t toxic but are incel. Even had some convos with them asking how they could actually improve. One guy even agreed he could try k pop maxxing because there’s a definite a niche of girls who’d be ok with being kind of delicate and not a big dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:18 AM
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Because women place more emphasis on qualities other than sheer looks in the overall rubric. While in the category of looks women are just as harsh and likely more, their overall attraction selection criteria has more categories and looks aren’t as a big percentage as it is for guy. So with guys they can see right there with their eyes that this woman meets a good chunk of their criteria. While for a women they need more info that’s not readily apparent to the eye so if other women seem to like …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:35 AM
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I’ve actually seen the short skinny guy with the fat girl combo a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:42 AM
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I think women understand all too well for better and for worse how much value it has. There are those that exploit it and there are those that get harassed because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:46 PM
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I think the usual trope is she tell him she wants to be friends and gets upset when he decide no? And then justify that he just wanted sex because if it really was about her as a person he’d like her as a friend because it’s better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 11:03 AM
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Not the person you asked but I feel like coffee dates need to be date 0 if you met them online. You could video chat I guess but even then I feel like you need to have a date where you can easily cut and run. It’s not even the omg he’s a serial killer thing. It’s like omg this guy is boring and now I have to sit through a whole dinner thing. I wouldn’t even consider a coffee date a date date. It’s more like a let’s make sure we’re both who we say we are. Now this would be different if you met in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:32 AM
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If we choose not to then you’ll see people make the choices they’re making right now. Right now in America immigrants can make up for the decline. I know you’re no op but don’t complain if people are making the economic choice not to have kids. If you’re like it’s fine, we need to depopulate anyway then I’d agree you’re consistent. But you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:03 PM
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If they want to solve it they have to make having kids easier. If you get a year of maternity and paternity leave and there universal pre school etc. In this capitalism driven economy where your worth is assigned a dollar value, being a parent is devalued. We have to either make it economically attractive or social attractive and not economically unattractive for women to have many kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:38 PM
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Like anything it’s supply and demand. And it could be location location location as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:45 AM
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My coworker asked me for advice on her son who had the boldness to tell his mom and dad “mom, I’ll never be the football or basketball ball kid that you want me to be”. Her husband and her are athletic “normie” people so she had no idea. I told her about a little library anime con that’s happening that I was taking my students to and she brought her son and he was so happy socializing and making friends. She was like omg you found your people! These are your people!! and looked so happy. Shows t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:27 AM
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So they are either friends with other misogynists or are bitter because they can’t “speak their mind”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:18 PM
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There’s only a handful of guys who are attractive enough to be “used” for casual sex. It’s two sides of the same coin. Guys have to deal with wondering if they’re hot enough to be desired just on their physical attributes and girls have to wonder if that’s all guys want from them and aren’t even looking at the other aspects of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:05 PM
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One wants an equal partner that can support himself. The other wants someone to totally take care of her. If you don’t get the difference I don’t know how to break it down further.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:27 AM
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There’s a huge difference between gold digger and a woman who wants someone who can support himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:32 AM
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The guy was saying that fact the this guy got matches proves something. I’m saying women are just as racist as men and there are plenty of racists out there regardless of gender. Maybe women aren’t committing hate crimes but it’s not some gotcha that he is professing. His premise is that women have no standards as long as they guys is a chad. My counter is there’s plenty of racists in this country including women for whom racism is a feature so it proves nothing about women…just that America has…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:46 PM
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Basically you’re saying men should unionize. Unfortunately there’s going to be scabs. Even if there was some market imbalance you’re not going to be able to organize. The biggest offenders are likely guys who sex zone some girls without being clear in their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:43 PM
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Sure. A toddler who got denied a piece of candy might literally be going through the worst thing his little life right now. Because he’s had so little experience that being told no candy is the worst part of his life. You hope that that’s the worst thing a little kid experiences and nothing actually bad happens to them. Again I don’t doubt these people are in pain and I feel sorry for them. The point of contention is that I’m sure lonely people existed in medieval time and beyond. Saying unattra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:12 AM
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Is there really a loneliness epidemic? I don’t mean to dismiss the issue of one man/woman here lamenting about their situation. I’m not discounting their pain or their experiences. Where I start getting skeptical is when they claim it’s a larger societal problem. We have to keep in mind that people who hangout on Reddit on these forums are already a particular crowd. Not to mention people posting are a sub section of that subsection. I’m pretty sure most of the non redditors and even most non vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:03 AM
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You are going around accusing people of privilege. Mean while you don’t know real hunger/health issues etc. Now that doesn’t invalidate your pain. If someone having it worse negates if only orphans in 3rd world counties dying of cancer have the right to complain. Where you do jump the shark is comparing your plight to the abject poor, of which there are still plenty. I’m not sure what king of suburban privilege bubble you live in but have you been in any city where there are homeless/ beggars/pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:37 AM
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Also you can split chores so the time is equal. It doesn’t mean every task is 50/50. He can change diapers more if she’s breast feeding. That’s still 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:07 PM
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Men sleep with literal prostitutes of questionable morals everyday. I find you and your profession gross but have my hard earned money! Would these men ever merry these women and provide in the long run? No. Women are just as horny for the much smaller percentage of men they find physically attractive and are willing to sleep with them on that alone. Would they find it thrilling to have sex with a hot guy that just happens to have a Nazi tattoo? Well maybe he’s just misguided or had to get it et…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:02 AM
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I mean mgt and that Italian prime minister lady come to mind. And they’re just the famous ones. The ones you gotta wonder about is how many are sympathizers but are too scared to be vocal about it. Keep in mind our own sitting President was ambivalent about segregation saying it’s complicated. I mean it is and integrating schools shouldn’t have been done flippantly but he wasn’t saying this is evil and we must do everything to rectify this country's wrongs. Ruby bridges is only 70. which means s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:53 AM
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There’s also a big difference between just sleeping with them and marrying them. Also the girls in the messages might have some Nazi sympathies? I don’t see screen shots of the women’s profiles professing to be a feminist or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:04 AM
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Karens are a white woman privilege. It’s because of the halo effect that they can “get away” with that behavior. Let’s see anyone else get away with Karen behavior. Black men have gotten shot for less. Even white men are likely to get security called on them. If you’re a brown /black woman they probably assume you’re on drugs and call security. It’s precisely the halo effect that lets Karens get away with this because security /police would be called on anyone else exhibiting Karen behavior. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:58 AM
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It’s a good weed out tool. Most sane women don’t want to get stuck eating a whole meal with someone that sucks. It’s almost like date 0 where you’re just meeting to confirm they guy is who he says he is and the pics match etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:21 PM
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I think men are more extreme and deviate furthe from average than women. Look at all the presidents and scientists and ceos. All men, and mostly men. Look at the top x richest people. All men and then mostly men. Male actors age better in terms of career roles than female. While it’s true that the people who have it the worst in society are male the people who have supposedly “the best” with the most money power prestige etc are also male so leaving that out seems one sided. If you want to excel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:21 AM
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I don’t think most have the 6’ rule but most do have the taller than me rule whether or not they state it. It’s probably because they seem more masculine and stronger. I’m 5’1 and I haven’t interacted with a guy who was shorter than me. I have gone out with 5’4” guys no problem but he still meets the taller than me rule. I’d like to think I’m above it but it’s easy to say you’d be willing when in reality there aren’t any guys shorter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:40 PM
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I mean compared to when? When women could not property or have a credit card or enroll in the elite universities? It’s all relative but we are going back wards with the fall of roe. But it’s a relatively recent dip compared to the big picture. But if we’re used to it being 69 degrees, and suddenly it’s 72 we are going to complain “hmm? Is it getting warm in here?” But I do acknowledge it’s been like 90 degrees plus and even 100 degrees in the past/other parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:48 AM
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I’m for this being routine /opt out where it’s just a medical/legal thing and not an accusation. It wouldn’t be a big deal if it was normalized. But it’s not and asking is definitely accusing. The only way to ask and not have it be an accusation is if they say I know it’s crazy but it’s an intrusive thought and I need this to stop them. You basically have to say it’s me not you and own it as opposed to trying to justify it with mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:44 AM
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There in lies the gap. Women are much more likely to be content and be volcel as opposed to incel. I don’t think the whole chad harem theory is enough to cover a significant portion of the supposed gap. It’s just that women aren’t feeling as much need to be in a relationship and have a higher threshold of preferring a relationship over being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:05 AM
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The childlessness problem is that society needs to swing back to single income being sustainable. But now it can be either gender going out to work/staying at home. If I made enough to support us my husband would definitely be the stay at home dad. My mom is helping us with child care too. We couldn’t afford kids really otherwise. I’m 39 and I know lots of my friends want kids but simply can’t afford them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:23 AM
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I mean it’s not exact but I guess you have to look at the average comparable guys and see how many of them are paired up. And then compare it to guys who are the “improved” version of what you could be and see how many of them have succeeds. You’d also have to measure what defines success. A date? Many casual partners? One ltr?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:34 PM
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If you strip the woo woo outfit it’s probability. Will doing all those thing guarantee a partner/happiness? No. Does it increase the odds? Yes. Can you keep playing until you “win”? Also yes. You’re basically upgrading from playing the lotto to playing black jack. Will you win? Both not super likely once but one remains unlikely ever and with black jack you’ll eventually win at lease once and in the world of dating once is all you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:53 AM
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I think it’s the opposite. We’ll at least the stereotype. Women think of dating as the most important thing and analyze things to pieces. Also if you believe the general consensus then women are the ones dating while men are griping. Women definitely spend a lot of time thinking about relationships. Now the content is different. Women usually aren’t analyzing how to get the guy but whether or not he’s that in to her ala “he’s just not that into you”. While guys are looking to try to get a woman’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:10 AM
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You can say women hate this as a general statement. When people say things like “women hate this” they are leaving out “most” because we’re not lawyers writing an iron clad contract. You can also call out bad behaviors in groups you support. In fact the world would be a better place if groups self policed behaviors more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 04:13 AM
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Incel’s psycho match are all on fds also complaining. Their rules and “standards” reek of the incel complaining their girls must be submissive virgins. Also calling other women pick mes is very parallel to calling other men simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:52 PM
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Yeah for every hot guy prisoner getting letters how many fat hair old ugly guys aren’t getting letters? It’s still coming down to be 1 be attractive 2 don’t be unattractive. It’s definitely the crazy girls writing these guys letters but let’s not forget it’s the attractive criminals getting the attention. They’d probably get attention if they weren’t criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:51 PM
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Also AI girlfriend doesn’t have an actual life so she just asks about yours. If you want a therapist AI would be great. They can bounce back your thoughts rehashed and ask you to think about things from another angle. Sure you can’t have a bad date with AI but you can’t have a good one either where you’re intrigued by your date. If you just want a therapist/listener then an AI girl friend will work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:35 PM
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With moms I often see the “it’s the moms whose whole identity was being a mom and only saw their kids as accessories/extensions of themselves are shocked when grown kids go low to no contact with them because they are over bearing and controlling.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:08 PM
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I think you should have posted examples of ick vs not. Deal beakers and legit preferences aren’t really icks. Then you’d get more interesting actual icks. She’s lazy and can’t hold a job isn’t an ick. We have different values in xyz isn’t an ick. She snorts when she laughs really hard is an ick. Her book collection was alphabetized is an ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:01 PM
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This is the crux of the pretty much all the debates. There are more single guys looking than single girls looking and the “I’d rather be single” bar is higher for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:32 PM
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I think the big disconnect is when the woman has have experience and the man has not. Guys who had experience, for the most part, wouldn’t really mind a woman with a similar experience. If they’re monogamous they’ll have “gotten it out of their system” and decide that hook ups are t all that interesting after a while. The friction comes from the fact that less guys can have that experience and come to that conclusion. Also I’d wager that the percent of women interested in exploring that is less …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:38 AM
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If both parties are pure in their intentions then a quick coffee date with some other places near by to easily extend it is the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:13 PM
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Yeah I was showing not all “investments” are financial. Op seems to be focus on $$$ only. And yeah I get the men get the brunt of money obligation in top of the time but women are also investing their time. Do people really think people are wasting time getting a free $5 coffee? I think women using men for meals is vastly over reported. Most women do not think a free meal is worth spending time with a person she’s not interested. I don’t disagree that women should go 50/50. But I do disagree tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:36 AM
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But your point is I haven’t invested anything. You can invest time instead of money. Time isn’t nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:03 AM
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It’s an echo of “man the monke” and patriarchy. Patriarchy hurts guys too where they have to be providers and have expectations placed on them. Many guys don’t seem the realize strict roles, even ones that put you in power, harms you. In the old times women weren’t allowed to work or even have a credit card in their name. They basically had to have a husband if they wanted to be sustained. So would you ask “what’s the college providing? Why do I have to pay an application fee? Don’t they want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:41 AM
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That’s only true if you don’t value your time. I’ve spent a day shopping and test driving and trying to compare financing at dealerships only to just be frustrated at the end of the day. Did I invest any actual money? Maybe if you count the Uber to get there? But I wasted a day which is the more annoying part. Not all investment is purely financial.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:34 AM
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Also if we’re going relationship tropes these guys would have a mistress and a wife and maybe the wife even looks the other way if nothing else is disrupted. Mistress might push him to leave his wife but he says eventually but will never.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 09:02 PM
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The reason matters. There is nuance. If it’s because he doesn’t want people to just be attracted to him or fetishize his height I can understand. It’s not dissimilar to people who make a crazy amount of income just saying they make 80k-100k so they look comfortable but not crazy gold digger being with him for money. It also has the distinction of keeping people they don’t want away vs trying to trick people into saying them when they wouldn’t have otherwise dated. Hiding a desirable trait that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:08 PM
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So let’s replace physically to sexually. It doesn’t contradict the general concept that women can be turned on by personality. That means if a man slips or was putting on a different personality or being on best behavior he’d be more attractive. Now it’s unrealistic to be able to maintain that everyday forever . When you’re stressed tired in a slump etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:51 PM
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If you go back to the original cuckoo bird a man is only truly a cuck if he raises another man’s child with his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:13 PM
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There’s a difference in what they’ll look for on porn hub/hire as escorts vs who they’ll go on dates /show their family/marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:11 AM
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No one of any gender should have to date anyone if they don’t want. Yeah we live in a society and everyone has to work but why discriminate based on gender who’s the better worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:53 AM
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If a guy cheated and wants hers to look the other ways/forgive him and she refuses who wants it more? It still doesn’t show who is the better partner or who loves/loves who more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:43 PM
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What I see happening is not the older generation women suddenly out earning her us and but the younger ones slowly conceding/normalizing the woman making the same amount/more as expectations and norms change. In my circle of peers (New York city metro area/progressives ) enough women out earn their guy and any woman professing her men must out earn her would get “looks” if not out right criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:42 PM
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The reason why women initiate most divorces is because most women are in charge of duties. If a guy cheats on a woman and she filed for divorce that counts as “her initiating divorce”. Even if the marriage is slowly crumbling the woman is usually the one who had to put the logistical work to “initiate divorce” Using the most divorce is initiated by woman stat to imply it’s content men being surprised by discontent women trying to take all his money is misinformed at best and dishonest at worst. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:38 PM
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I mean I would be ok with the government making all civil unions and not using the word marriage. It’s just a very convenient stamp on rights that people may have between them instead of having lawyers draw up a contract for every standard pairing. (Ie who pulls the plug, who inherits assets, who’s on insurance etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:34 PM
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What if you control for extremely attractive like in the question? Obviously if all things are equal autistic guys will perform worse. That’s not to mention things like fashion or hair style etc that’s a controllable aspect of being attractive that an autistic guy might not bother keeping up or taking into consideration that the average salary of autistic guys are less than gen pop. So yes autistic guys have it a lot tougher. But if you’re not that disabled and you’re very facially conventionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:04 PM
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How can there be more women in relationships? Is it a harem type thing? Or more lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:50 AM
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While that’s mostly true, the caveat is that the biggest disconnect between men and women is incel vs volcel. Women seem more ok with being single than men. So while men do compete with other men they are also competing with “I’d rather be single”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:07 PM
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In the day before Internet, going out wasn’t just to look for sex. You went out to the bar to hang with your friends. If you’re going out to socialize and hang out with friends you are going to have fun any way. If your purpose to venture out is find a partner people can sense that. That shift from “I’m going out to have fun and hopefully find girls.” Vs “I’m going out to find a girl and if not I won’t have fun” is resulting in less hook ups overall. The stats that people are having less sex mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:34 AM
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I don’t think most people are all that active. There’s the Instagram/Hollywood perception that everyone is hooking up but stats say the amount of sex people are having us way down. If you compare teens of today vs teens of the past it’s pretty apparent. I don’t think chad or Stacy is the enemy of the average man having sex. It’s the Netflix and video games making it easier to be entertained staying in as opposed to going out. It’s Reddit letting you have some social outlet without having to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 11:59 PM
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When there’s a huge age gap like that there has to be expectations setting. I don’t see anything wrong if in the ideal situation where both parties are in it to have a good time with no real hope/expectations of a future together. It’s when older people either misrepresent their intentions or want to get into a serious relationship with big power dynamic differences when there’s a problem. But for a one night stand type thing it’s just two people enjoying each other. Again it’s usually not super…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:01 AM
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Any advance is creepy if it’s unwelcome and hot if it is. Guys and girls have risk being a little creepy if they want to make a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:58 AM
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Not in the red states right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:11 AM
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It’s not irrelevant since the op beings up that genetics = legacy. By that logic sperm donors win at evolution. Maximum genetic procreation for minimum resources. Also if you’ve seen guardians of the galaxy someone can do your father but he’s not your daddy. This guy values being the father more than the daddy. In an ideal world maybe they’re both. But who’s more valuable and really leaves their legacy, ie values, love etc on the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:10 AM
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Here’s a story of a lovely lady…. Who was bringing up 3 very lovely girls…. But seriously it really depends on the dynamic. Sure are there single moms that really don’t find their new partner attractive and just are using them for money and security? Yeah. But there’s a good number of step families where both partners have kids and no one is using anyone. If anything avoiding being a step parent should be avoided for the opposite reason. If you do bond and love the child but if you separate you …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:06 AM
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You’re not bored, you’re boring. Interesting people are rarely bored, they’re going out doing things. You could be on a boring date I suppose but if everything and everyone boring you’re the common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:29 AM
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Good partner > no partner > bad partner. It’s all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:33 PM
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I mean look at Leonardo DiCaprio. Men ditching their first wives for a younger model after they get rich is pretty much a trope. That’s probably the male equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:28 AM
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You were saying a women would be a good mother by default while a man has to prove he’s a good father? I just assumed that’s for custody settings. If you weren’t saying it in a custody setting it’s actually that men get praised to the moon for being such a good daddy for doing the basics. My husband said the pediatrician probably thinks he’s some single father because he takes the kids to the doctors because his off days are week days and gets pissed because people are like oh wow what a great d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:57 AM
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There’s definitely a difference in making people aware of the realities vs perpetuating it. But the people who trashed a paramedic for having an of should rot and diaf. But unfortunately there’s a lot of bad people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:52 AM
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Men can correct me if they beg to differ but if you at Grindr activity and how much sex gay men have vs lesbians I’m willing to bet straight men would have that much sex if straight women were willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:49 AM
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I think it’s been shown that when guys fight they often get 50/50 in family court. Some of the inequities might be because the men think they’ll lose anyway so they don’t fight. It’s not dissimilar to women not fighting for raises at a work place because they were taught to be nicer/you’ll look hard to work with. They have shown men are much more likely to negotiate than women. But when women negotiate they are more likely to get it than if they didn’t but they also have that risk of the double …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:47 AM
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Yeah I used to lurk “gender critical” /terfs and many are also swerfs. But I see it like abortion. Is it a great thing that should be advocated as a primary thing? No. But should it be legal and made safe as possible? Yes. Should we tout it as an awesome profession? Probably not. But is it necessarily worse than coal miners damaging their lungs or soldiers risking their lives ? It’s a living and I believe enough of the problems of sex work stem from the stigma around it. Like oh no what if my fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:39 AM
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I mean everyone or no one needs to pay taxes. Being a single guy shouldn’t mean you get tax benefits? Either pay for schools or pay for prisons. The same way people who don’t ride cars still pay for roads and people who never are the victims of crime still pay for police.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:34 AM
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I would say it’s not that they’re less likely to act but have less opportunity. The odds of a women who is hot enough to get him to stray trying to tempt him is a lot slimmer than some hot guy trying to sleep with as many women as he can pull. Which bring me to my unpopular opinion which I believe is actually a fact is men are a lot thirstier than women. We can debate what effect that has and the power balance between the genders but in the a lot of the gap/misunderstandings/conflict arise becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:03 AM
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Women should have standards but in an ideal world 50% of the time the woman should be making more money than the man. Now right now the distribution of men/women’s wages aren’t ideal but as long as the guy is working and can support himself women shouldn’t have some standard of insisting he make more. If she’s making 60k and he’s making 40k that shouldn’t be a big deal. If she’s making 100k and he’s making half that it shouldn’t be a big deal either. In fact it’s empowering and pro feminist to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:58 AM
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I actually agree with these supposedly unpopular “opinions” because they are based on observations. 1- Clearly lots of men care about body count. We can debate how logical that is and how much luck he’ll have but enough care. Call them insecure or say they just actually have standards but they care. I don’t think there’s debate in that. 2- While I agree with the main point of this I will counter the “when looking for a partner” condition. If she is only looking for a long term eventually marry p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:51 AM
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Actually most feminists want prostitution legalized and regulated. We can argue what percent of women that is but anti sex worker mentality is seen as anti feminist and I haven’t actually seen the typical “feminist” the rep pill complain about say they want prostitution gone. They actually want the control in the workers hand themselves and legalize it so some of the risk can be mitigated. In that way they are cutting out the pimps/middle men so it hurts some men I guess lol. But it would likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:35 AM
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Yeah, I will actually accept the gripe that ugly guys are invisible/ignored. But women don’t hate ugly guys because hate is an active emotion. Maaaybe if he’s hitting on them and setting off creeper vibes they can feel disgust but most of the time ugly guys don’t take up much space in their mind. Women aren’t actively cock blocking ugly men and putting in effort. The everyone/the world hate me mentality is super self centered when in reality most people/the world just moves without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:30 AM
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Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. If you’re reducing it to reproduction the amount of effort and resources needed by male vs female differ vastly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:24 AM
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There’s more women in yoga and dance and aerobics. Less women straight up lift at the gym but I’ll bet there’s less men signing up for fitness based classes. Overall I think the rate of overweight/obesity is similar? I will concede that just being slim is enough for women to be attractive while men need the tone added to the slim so just eating healthy isn’t enough to achieve attractive status (as opposed to just not unattractive)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:10 AM
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It depends on where you live for sure. There’s a whole article about how trump workers have a tough time dating in DC. Me being in the nyc metro area if you’re a conservative guy declaring it good luck you’ll need it. If you look at the nation wide stats, which again isn’t reflective of local stats, there is a significant not just margin of error gap between left and right for women and men respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:49 AM
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And yeah and in the end no one is obligated to do anything except not harm. No one is obligated to sleep with you, give you money for nothing, etc duhhhh. Why are you in ppd if you’re not here to discuss the whys of what people do and think? I’m asking for nuance of his position. If he’s like I actually wouldn’t give my seat up for anyone every man for himself it would be different from well I’d give it up for everyone except pregnant women because I don’t like how entitled they are. I don’t kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:12 AM
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Would you give it up for a frail old man? What about a frail old woman? A man with a cast? A woman with a cast? It’s not your fault they’re old and I hope it’s not your fault someone’s in a cast. Is it that you don’t want to give your seat to anyone for any reason? Or any woman ? Or is it just pregnant women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:06 PM
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Not sure if troll but if you did that to an able bodied woman sure. She can stand as well as a guy. But a pregnant woman has a physical condition that makes it harder to stand. If a woman saw a man with a limp or was just kind of old and frail looking she should give her seat being a kind human. Again the thing against your logic is a normal able bodied man isn’t the equivalent of a pregnant woman. If you struck out pregnant you would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:53 PM
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Ever seen king of the hill when boomhauer takes Bobby to the shoe department? Dang ol love? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:29 PM
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It’s like the lowest bar to not be a serial killer. I mean there’s the dangerous bad boy who might break your heart and Ted bundy might end up in a ditch. Actually I was talking to a bunch of teenage boys who were discussing pick up line. It’s the end of year after finals so I just let them chill with games and puzzle worksheets etc. I was like you know there’s no magic line that’ll impress a girl. If she doesn’t like you the smoothest approach will results in a polite “awww…I’m sorry but” at be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:08 AM
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That stats says women file. So if it’s because the man cheated, if she’s the one to serve him papers she technically would count as the one initiating it. That stats doesn’t really say anything about the fault of who destroyed the marriage one way or another except women take care of the logistics more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:11 PM
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I think women just are less in. ”need” of sex. Just look at the amount of hookups in gay men vs lesbians. Men’s drives are much much higher. It’s less pressing and in their minds. I think for men it’s lower on the hierarchy of needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:58 PM
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Feminism is the right to pursue your happiness and not having gender restrict you. If a woman wants to be a trad wife or ceo that’s her pursuit of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:58 PM
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Actually trans men who started T said they get it now. Like the all consuming levels of horniness that they haven’t experienced before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:57 PM
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The key piece in the first article is that women would rather be single. Maybe it’s for all the reasons you say but more women saying they’d rather be single than men will create that gap. The question is what can be done to bridge that gap. It could be more men being content being single too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:04 PM
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I think who you choose to date says a lot about a person. It’s you picking qualities you value at least at that time. You can grow/evolve in your priorities obviously but what you’re looking for and what you value in a partner says about where you are in life and your own personal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:10 PM
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Lol true. The irony of posting an outrage post on outrage. He needs a definition check Outrage : how dare you! People like you I’d what’s wrong with society! Etc etc Trolling : lol go back to your basement and ask your mommy for tendies Both aren’t original nor witty but there is a classification difference. One is them getting mad and the latter is them poking you to see if you’ll get mad. And since op made a whole post on it he mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:11 AM
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You can be niche attractive too. In whatever thing you’re into. I’ve seen the pretty cosplay femme boys who are actually straight kill it with girls. They might not be getting a ton of love outside that niche community but that’s not that important. The issue is so much of dating is online now with swipes. Being part of some community where there’s more people and a chance to meet new people like being in a sports club that occasionally goes to bigger events where you are seen and you can see pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:59 AM
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If there’s someone hung up on someone like that it’s less about the guy and more about the projection of the guy. It’s like he can be “perfect” because he’s not real. I feel like it’s not much different than guys wanting xyz traits and attributing it to some unattainable woman. The way it manifests is different but projecting some perfection on a person you can’t obtain is equal opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:47 PM
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We already tap my mom for 3 days of child care. She stays with us Sunday night -weds. My husband shuffled his work schedule to be off Thursday & Friday. I have a normal weekend off. It means we don’t have to pay for two day cares which is a whole mortgage payment but we also don’t have overlapping days off. Hopefully it’s not forever. The kids are 1 and 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:54 AM
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To me it’s balancing the data and trends with individuals. Knowing x% of y do this is great but taking all those with you into a date instead of evaluating the person right in front of you using your judgement or character and gauging compatibility mean you don’t know how to person. Red pills seems too formulaic and everyone is reduced to their stats and actuarial tables while blue pill ignores large societal trends because not all x. I feel like being red pill when talking about society at larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:32 PM
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If it’s anecdotal it can absolutely contradict each other. The problem happens when people try to extrapolate their individual experiences to everyone’s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:14 PM
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This. But the dating each other has been hard with 2 toddlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:46 PM
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So if we have some objective metric that will we can debate over its possible for people to have their average go up overall. Like if the whole country suddenly became a healthy bmi the objective attractiveness will go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:39 PM
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By definition the average number for straight people should be the same as long as there are the same number of men and women. What’s in question is what’s the standard deviation from the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:36 PM
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It depends on what metric we use to rate attractiveness. Objective or relative. And whether we’re using the mean or median. If we are using the median yes, 50 % is below average by definition. However if there’s a mean and the men’s “ratings” are 1,1,1,2,10 the average is 15/5= 3 and 80% are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:51 PM
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So I guess there are a few top men who the women are sharing? Because assuming the same number of men and women the average number of sex partners is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:46 PM
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Even women shouldn’t really want first dates to be a huge thing with a meal and waiting for a check etc. You want a quick break if you’re not feeling it without having to wait for a meal to arrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 AM
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I think the big disconnect is the incel vs volcel gap between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:31 PM
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Men also have less of a social network. Very often their relationships are their sole support.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:09 AM
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Oops. Month. I started the post $50 a day which is what she charges for people who don’t do a full week. But I’m like that’s less translatable than $1000 a month which means $4000 a month for 4 kids which people can definitely digest better in terms of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:01 AM
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I’ve seen moms do a child care gig where they charge like $1000 a kid per day to operate their own in home day care. If it’s not crazy crowded and you take 4 kids that’s an extra $4000 a month. Edit: $1000 a month or $50 a day
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:45 AM
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I’m pretty sure asking a coworker to date and not taking a polite no for an answer is more punishable than anything else in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:25 PM
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Yeah. I know it can go up to 90k for some? But it’s American. Some are even lower. The average is 60k i think
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:43 PM
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I think the number is 2.1. But yes, someone needs to have 3 kids for every 9 women who have 2. Or 10 women need to have 21 babies among them to keep the population at where it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:12 PM
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If want to go all capitalism being a surrogate pays 60k. But that’s just carrying the baby and then someone paid that much plus medical to get the women to carry the baby. But I think there are huge waitlists for adoption? So there are people willing and able to do the child rearing but can’t make kids on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:10 PM
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3 is close to impossible unless you have help. I can do 2. But one more would make it too tough. We can manage man on man but if you have three crying kids and only 2 parents wtf do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:06 PM
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From what I’ve seen women seem to blame their partners for neglecting them so they were so lonely they had to while a lot of men are like it’s justified for a guy and guys just can’t help themselves. I’ve seen older women try to make younger women accept that. Both are bs but there’s definitely a distinction on the excuses that men vs women give.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:41 AM
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Don’t international people think texas when they think American? When I see Japanese anime and they have some international crew get together they have Brazil as a soccer player, Spain as a bull fighter, French chef or the berret, and america as a cowboy with guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:46 PM
1

So what’s the big picture? Are women also single but vol-cel? Are the chads at the top getting two women so there aren’t any for the bottom?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:09 AM
1

It’s in Maslow’s hierarchy of needs pyramid. If you’re drowning you need oxygen. If you’re on fire you need to not be on fire. That’s like the bottom. Immediate physical safety. Then there’s the food shelter clothing etc / being secure with those things. I think the sexual “need” that people talk about is in the step above that. Belonging and love. That’s why so many guys won’t see an escort as a substitution and women don’t see some dude willing to have a ons as a substitution. Never mind the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:20 PM
10

I think the arbitrary 6’ is from old. Before it was prolific most women said a couple of inches taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:13 PM
1

I’d think with all the ratio of men to women in the libertarian crew there’d be good pickins
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:11 AM
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They’re rare in your encounters because they’re probably holed up reading/video gaming vs extroverted women who might be out and about at events.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:38 AM
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She’s basically a bang maid who likely doesn’t have better options. If you come from an abusive /absent/poor family and don’t have a lot of prospects this might be the alternative to being homeless or in poverty. Definitely not an equal partner wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:11 PM
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That’s not really a partner. It’s a band maid. I mean if they’re both happy i don’t think it’s wrong but neither are getting a life partner who supports you and understands you. Obviously I’m just basing it on superficial one interaction displayed here. But if you’re just paying for them you’re going to have a transactional relationship. The whole notion of romantic love and equal partner is relatively new in human society though so if that arrangement works and she doesn’t have better options i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:08 PM
1

There’s different scales and metrics which is why people get lost in translation. The two biggest different scales are objective vs relative. With the objective scale you can measure by what percent of the people find you attractive. If the whole country suddenly became a healthy height to weight ratio this would jump up. The other one is relative. Where there’s a pecking order. Even if everyone suddenly became a healthy weight then it’ll start sorting by levels of fitness, facially attractive e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:12 PM
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There’s a big big difference between 18 and 35 vs 35 and 52. If it’s just a hook up at a night club one night stand sure. But a serious relationship between 18 and 35? The 35 just wants someone to control and easy to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:31 AM
2

I think that fact you have decorating styles means you guys still have that in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:25 AM
1

I think the metaphor dating as a man is trying to find drinkable water in a dessert and a woman is trying to find drinkable water in a swamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:52 PM
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There’s always a lag when it comes to progress. Men lagged after women so that even when both partners worked the same amount women were still expected to do more house keeping and child care. Right now women are mostly looking to date in their income bracket or above /their education level or above. A trades man can make good income and be great smart guy but women will still not think of him as a good partner. Obviously there are many exceptions to these but I’m talking large sweeping societal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:42 PM
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If she was making some fds podcast and marketing it you’d have a valid statement but I think the resentment/sad state of society is that in theory the guy is just chatting and is creating just as much content. I suppose you could call it cheap therapist and if she is making custom pictures that’s content creation. But the equivalent would be her making some fds style or even fitness /life style content instead of just “chatting”. I think that’s what doesn’t sit well with most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:41 AM
1

Go to a yoga or Pilates studio. It’ll be mostly women hanging out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:21 AM
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Do you agree with the statement “If a person doesn’t want to get hit by a drunk driver they shouldn’t be out late night on a Saturday. You know a bunch of drunks are about to start driving home after last call. Just stay home at that time.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:43 AM
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I mean if you saw two stores that seems about the same but if one had no reviews and the other had a bunch of 5 stars which would you go to? That being said it’s definitely chicken and egg of which came first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:39 AM
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Then if your dating pool is smaller due to preferences that sucks but you will have a harder time finding people. Everyone is of course entitled to their preferences but then you have to eventually ask if it’s a nice to have or a need to have. I.e I’d rather be alone than x. But seriously have you seen couples at Walmart ? Plenty of people who are not in the least conventionally attractive find partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:23 AM
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Have you looked at partnered people in Walmart? There are tons of very unattractive guys with usually their looks matches. They tend to be a little older too. I think most of these people really do have some sort of issues with dating that’s not just looks or just shooting their shot with people who are much more attractive. I’m not saying anyone needs to stick to only their “league” but don’t hate the world and blame society when you’re not getting bites.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:32 AM
2

Are women just dating older men? And it doesn’t catch up until there’s a bunch of older women who are getting the other brunt end of this phenomenon? If we assume monograms because we are talking stable long term relationships would there be an equal number of single women for every single man? I do know the ratio favors men in the nursing homes. Is that where we are at in this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:02 AM
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It basically comes down to the incel vs volcel ratio difference between men and women. The fact that women seem to be more ok with staying single and find fulfillment in things that aren’t tied to sex and dating while men seem to need it more creates the gap. We can definitely agree T is part of it. I’ve heard trans men say “you know what I get it now” when referring to how horny men can get. They never experienced that level of horniness that’s all consuming before transitioning. Not saying eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:37 PM
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I agree with the phrase but I don’t agree with your spin that it means women have it easier. Imagine having accomplishments but still being reduced to how how you are? If there’s a woman in the limelight she gets judged on her looks in a way that men don’t. And I’m not talking in fields like entertainment/modeling etc where that’s normal. Like politics and business women are still judged where they can’t be too hot or too ugly etc. I won’t refute that society sees women having more inherent valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:49 AM
1

How do they control for guys who are just good looking vs not good looking? Do they make up stats on how many women swiped right using the same picture ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:52 PM
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I’m sure there’s the hype factor but there’s the chicken and the egg. If a guy is good looking and high status women are going to war him. It’s not that other women are making him attractive but attractive men have more women chasing him. Obviously a woman might get swept up in the hype if some guy has fans but that’s usually at the celebrity status. I will say in real life if a girl vouches for a guy it would give the guy some points. Like if he has female friends that signals he’s not a creepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:51 PM
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If they choose men where they enjoy the sex and they’re not using sex as a means to an end and just enjoying it as an end in of itself it’s less of a red flag. You want a woman who enjoys sex but you don’t want one who uses it as a bargaining chip.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:45 AM
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This. Guys have been known to screw barn yard animals so the bar of “some guy is willing to be nice enough to get you in bed” is pretty much on the ground if not buried.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:41 PM
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If anything women tend to be too “nice” and hope the guy gets the hint. Both from a “I don’t want to hurt his feeling” reason and “if I’m too brusque in shooting him down he might get abusive” reason. They go out of the way to avoid confrontation if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:44 PM
1

My ex who is mtf said she gets more smiles and light chats after transitioning but now guys talk over her at meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:47 AM
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That’s covered under the exposure. Like the flasher.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:40 AM
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Yup. Basically the top 2 reasons and most of the other reasons are derivatives of these. Attempt to seduce or attempt to expose himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:19 AM
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It depends on where. If you’re at a gym or grocery store where you’re there “on business” you politely deflect and move on. If you’re at a place where it’s social like a concert /convention I might chat and make a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:13 PM
1

It depends on what standards we are using. Are we going back to caveman times when fertility and signs of bearing healthy offspring was found attractive because evolution? Or when brute strength and speed was the ability to protect and provide? If we use modern standard where ability protect a provide no longer bank on pure physical prowess then sure maybe men peak later. But by that standard a women can now just work and use a gun as well. Men have an advantage in hunting mammoths and fighting …
/r/TheRedPill01/05/23 12:10 PM
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I think most people are a little bi. It’s a spectrum. And yeah if you’re a dude that likes dudes getting hook ups is easy. Imagine if every thirsty dude on tinder chasing women could just chase each other? You got grindr. So yes for people who are truly bisexual you can choose a sexuality and if you’re in a monogamous long term relationship you basically become associated with your partner choice. In fact being straight is the choice many make because of the stigma of homosexuality and even in a…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 05:55 AM
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Yup and the haters have been calling them “gaaaay” since then too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:45 PM
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Yeah imagine if everyone became a healthy weight ? The objective attractiveness of the population would spike up. But relatively attractive will still have some pecking order but there will be more people who are pleased with their partner’s looks.
/r/AllPillDebate21/03/23 07:05 AM
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It depends on the con but the small local ones are almost 50/50. But the crowd is young. Like 18-25. Some younger than 18 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:08 PM
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Have you been to the anime cons? There is a bunch of girls now too. Maybe gaming like video games/e sports but if you expand to board games and table top RPGs like dnd it starts becoming more balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:48 PM
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I met my husband trying to find players for dnd while dming. We still try to get game nights going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:38 PM
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Or the nerd community. Gaming/anime cons have a lot of girls who wouldn’t care. Basically any community where you are known and people can see you as a person over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:22 AM
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So there’s a difference between some objective metric of high value vs high value via percentile. Your argument would be that there are more high value men than high value women via some objective standard. But I would argue it’s more or less equal. Let’s say you’re a top 5% guy and only the top 5% of women are acceptable to you. Then obviously it’s a lot harder as only 1/20 women would be acceptable and that’s after excluding women who are too old/young taken. Most people are more than willing …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:14 AM
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Most people can find someone, anyone. But the question is does this person offer you anything positive. I think people are able to be single and still be happy and the 80/20 (we can argue the ratio) rule is still standing even with commitment. Women have standards like the guy has to make more money than her have more or at least equal education etc. that are the equivalent of you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Women need to shed some of the antiquated standards of what’s high value
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:05 AM
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You’re forgetting that you’re not necessarily mature /settled enough to be a parent. Do you have kids or is it just a theoretical concept to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:14 PM
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I was definitely a hard maybe in my 20s and then in my early 30s I met my husband. Got married in my mid 30s and had kids shortly after. Now I can’t confirm or deny what we would have done if we had issues with fertility but I can definitely confirm I wasn’t ready mentally or financially for kids in my 20s. I can give my kids the things they need to thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 11:13 PM
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I think the problem is how you’re framing the phenomena as women having some kind of intention as opposed to just the manifestation of dating economics. If you’re hot people offer you slack in other areas? Shocker. If you’re not hot you have to be extra good in other areas to get attention/affection? Whhaaat? Also what 18 year old is thinking about whether their partner will be financially responsible or a good parent? They are definitely not think about the future one way or another (no this gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:39 AM
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I used be obsessed with candy would look forward to special events where I can have some. I give my kid a little bit of candy and now I can’t even bribe him with it because he sees it as not a big deal. I have to bribe him with toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:01 PM
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My Catholic friend growing up was like the guilty makes it better. I think parents saying ok sure! We’re just happy you’re being safe. Let’s get you an iud. You’re not having babies until you’re past your mid 20s. Here’s some condoms. And they they’re like meh ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:56 PM
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I think in terms of short term supply and demand (ie casual quick hook ups) men definitely want women more. So in the pool of women who are willing to have a short term thing they are “over values” compared to the long term monogamous pairing that many people purport to be the goal. Now when you’re in swipe culture online you only see that snippet. But meeting in real life evens the playing grounds.
/r/AllPillDebate03/03/23 02:04 PM
2

No one should be forced to be a therapist. In fact having your partner be a therapist is not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:37 PM
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Pick their partner vs pick no partners. Women couldn’t even get a credit card until the 70s. There were many ways a woman needed a man. So yeah for the most part women were free to pick their partners but not no partner. So they found their equivalent and matches were made. Now it seems like women and even men are opting out of making a match. Men no longer need to put a ring on it so the ones that can attract a women aren’t going to commit until they actively choose to and women are deciding al…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 05:24 AM
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The survey seems so say it’s people in their 20s? Maybe women are hooking up with older men?
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 02:25 AM
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I’ll be the first to say there’s a lot more perks of being a guy when it comes to making money and pursuing things. But there’s definitely some perks. Like I was standing out in the cold/rain waiting for a ride. A little old lady offered to let me sit in her car and wait. We had a nice chat and my ride finally came I thanked her and left. I think that interaction can really be done with two women. She like wouldn’t have felt comfortable asking a guy and I wouldn’t have felt comfortable getting i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:59 PM
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I’ll give it to you that men probably don’t see the same level value in how rich a woman is. But I’m also sure that being poor and not making anything or working a minimum wage job /low skill job without any other ambition would be a turn off to a lot of guys who don’t make enough to be a sugar daddy. There is a small subset of folks who are both willing and able to make it work on one income but those days are long past. We can lament on that being gone but that’s a whole other issue. I make 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:04 AM
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And they get married pretty young. Usually to people vetted by their family. If you want a tradcon wife you’d better be someone her family approves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:36 PM
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He is what a strong man looks like to a weak man. And teenage boys aren’t a ball of insecurities that might easily fall for the “oh man this is what an alpha looks like”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:39 AM
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What were the clues ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:27 AM
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I mean I’d be happy to have one before a date to see if a date would be worth it. I guess we can argue semantics of what counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:30 PM
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If he was making money on the side with it sure. I wouldn’t consider him making connections with fans and making that $$$ cheating or undesirable. If he was spending a bunch of money I wouldn’t see him as a long term partner as I would want someone who makes better financial decisions. If it was just a hook up I wouldn’t care as his finances aren’t my problem. But I would lose the long term potential with some one who buys that. I would feel the same if he was part of anway or Herbalife or anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:39 PM
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Yeah. It’s less to do with watching someone vs not being financially savvy. If he had his own account and was making money and connections I would fully support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:37 PM
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“I want to wait for marriage. I promise it’ll be awesome once we’re married”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:50 PM
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It’s also who hang out here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:49 PM
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I think it comes to supply and demand. It’s not the virtue vs shame dichotomy that you’re seeing. It’s what’s wanted and what’s available. In the world of dating men who just want sex are given the same level of scorn as single moms who want a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:30 AM
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Yup. Gay men are having the amount of sex straight men wish they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 11:23 AM
3

Yeah it’s definitely true for stuff like muscular dystrophy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:29 PM
1

With a great partner > no partner > bad partner. Obviously there’s no clear cut line between where a partner is so bad you’re better off alone and that’s different for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:27 PM
2

Look at the august gloop actor in old Willy wonka vs new. Look at the goonies for who was the “fat” kid that did the truffle shuffle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:46 PM
2

There’s a big difference in what we mean by average. Do we mean by percentile ranking or average in terms of a rubric meaning a scale of 1-10 ? Because I think supposedly there’s more obese women than men. So there will be some overlap of looks matches where obese women will be matched with a man who is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:41 PM
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I’m a teacher and they had some women girls empowerment thing so they were calling out the girls to go. I said “ok so obviously girl power and all girls are beautiful and all that but I just want to shout to all the boys that you’re all handsome and amazing gentlemen too!” And one boy stood up and kind of shouted omg finally no one ever said that ever. It seems like it was some thing that bugged him. Now I know it’s not going to change the world but that’s the issue when it’s something so ingrai…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:56 PM
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To piggy back on this men aren’t as socialized to make friends and people yell that’s their fault because “all they have to do is be nice and make friends” . But we also see a problem where women aren’t as assertive and they end up not getting the promotion etc and everyone agrees that’s terrible even though “all they have to do is stick up for themselves “ Every misogynistic things has an opposite side of the coin
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:13 PM
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I would say a woman saying exactly that to a man would also be waving a red flag. Asking straight out like that is tactless and pointless. People should show, not tell, what they bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:47 PM
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I mean you live and you learn or you observe and learn. Your standard can be as high as you want but if you’re single and looking for an amount of time that causes you duress it might be too high. If you observe other people who are comparable to you in terms of looks and jobs etc and their partners and your standard is significantly higher than what they’re pulling your standard might be too high. That being said there’s always the bar is on the floor standard of this person must make me happie…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:54 AM
1

It’ll be like that society in Rick and morty lol
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:24 PM
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The British imperialism took over hundreds of places. That’s hardly evidence that it was because it was lead by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:45 AM
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Can you name a society that’s gone extinct? Are we talking like a tribal lost society? A country?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:16 AM
2

What’s the age? Are talking 18? 25? 30? 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:34 AM
2

The reason the disabled account got only female is that they are bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:27 AM
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Yeah I’m for routine testing you have to opt out of or something but if a partner brings it up they’re basically accusing you of cheating. I would likely comply but then probably break up with them after depending on how they were approaching it. If they said it’s just intrusive thoughts and they know it’s crazy but they want to I might. Also if the kid is already born can’t the family get one of those ancestry kits and have it framed as a fun thing to do instead of being it framed in an accusat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:55 PM
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I was looking at it from a stats points but that is a good observation that from a society point that stats mean the typical woman’s experience is more likely to be relatable to another woman than men being able relate to each other’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:37 AM
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Hmm true. If we count sex workers that will skew the distribution. Also it won’t be take into account unless you have a huuuge comprehensive survey. I don’t know how many women do sex work but If you survey 1000 men and women there’s a decent chance a few men who have visited sex worked will appear and would likely be representative. But with the women whether or not that 1 in x women appears in the survey who might have 100 men will skew the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:35 AM
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The median might even be the same. It’s the standard deviation that you want. In fact I’d wager the median is about the same but it’s the extremes that are skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:30 AM
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By definition the average number should be the same if the population of men and women are 50/50 if we just count the heterosexual people. But the narrative isn’t that the mean is the same but rather the deviations. Supposedly women have a smaller range of the normal curve than men. Assuming equal number of men and women the mean must be the same. However, men supposedly have feast or famine where there’s a high number for the chads and 0 for the incels. So in a test, 80,80,80 has an average of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:29 AM
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In prehistory everything was shared. Look up fierce egalitarianism. We are wired to want more than one partner. That’s shown via evidence in terms of testicle size and just the fact that even people who choose monogamy still get temptation. Species that are monogamous have no urge wired into them. If anything monogamy is more against the natural order of things. That being said if you choose monogamy but you’re happy to break it you might have narcissistic tendencies. A mental disorder also show…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:06 PM
1

But there’s the balance of freedom to vs freedom from. What does being entitled to se look like? I feel like the bottom of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs is something you’re entitled to assistance for but not much above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:28 PM
2

Wait is op ESL and thinks marriage is asking on a date? His responses start sort of making sense if you replace asking for marriage to asking on a date. Like why aren’t the men you want asking you out on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:39 PM
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Most men usually don’t ask women to marry them unless they’re in an established relationship. What conditions do you think is appropriate for a man to ask a woman to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:36 PM
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Currently there is no one she wants. Basically she’s saying there is not even a guy she’s lining for that isn’t asking. I guess as to why there aren’t more guys up to her standards that she’d want? That’s anyones guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:18 PM
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How often have you heard this in real life? I have never seen this in real life because most women know rejecting a guy like that risks their safety. They talk a big game online but won’t do it to the guys faces. Are you talking high school level settings ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:50 AM
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That’s not true in real life. Yea there are definitely yaaaas Queen! Attitudes in certain communities that strategize in dating for the xx chromosome but in real life most women say they have a bf to guys asking them out. It’s because it’s usually the most effective and easy way to get a guy to leave you alone. That being said online profiles are definitely subject to that. Women who post bad things about short men should be given the same treatment as guys who post derogatory things about fat w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:44 AM
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Yeah as someone in a poly relationship absolutely. If you want the freedom to pursue other people just own it and get a poly partner. If you’re a guy who wants a mono-poly thing where she stays faithful while you get to sleep around find a cuck Queen who’s into that. Just be up front
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:18 PM
5

people who get abortions are the on the lower socioeconomic scale and legalization of abortion has been correlated with lower crime rates x numbers in the future when these kids, who were clearly unwanted, would have started coming into adulthood. It makes sense when you think about it but neither party wants to really promote that picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:54 PM
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Yeah I don’t think it’s marriage. It’s kids. Those tend to be correlated but I would bet two child free married couples are doing just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:34 AM
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I wonder if these men are giving oral and not getting any back or if they’re just expecting it without giving. I would say the frequency goes down by a ton after kids. I’m not sure about long term after the kids are grown but you can’t just have a romp in the kitchen with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:32 AM
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That’s assuming that 25% of women doesn’t include a significant percent of bots/advertising for OF/snap etc. But technically if it’s actually 75% men and 25% women it’d be 33% of men that gets a March.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:56 PM
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I envy that they can go out dancing and be reasonably sure their drink won’t get roofied. If women didn’t have to worry about personal safety with regards to dating and the worst they had to worry about is rejection and getting their feelings hurt there’ll be a lot less guardedness and rejection overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:33 PM
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I would say show don’t tell with regards to your positive traits. If anything guys with money try to play it down to avoid gold diggers. Anyone who flaunts it overly by saying it seems desperate and crass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:28 PM
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I know right? I’m trying to figure out what op is sussing out. Is the money supposed to be tempting? Or is it supposed to show just how little women value men? It’s confusing. Like if I was “done” with men I wager I’d take a free Sunday at Dairy Queen over a husband and if I wasn’t already attached to a husband 20k a month would essentially mean I get to stop working so a life time of bf/hook ups might be tempting. But $2000 is like hmm? It’s low enough to be closer to the Dairy Queen coupon but…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:12 PM
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My current loving husband makes $5000 a month and I make $8000? Take home is more like 3k, 6k though. $2000 isn’t really a lot. Is the question supposed to be like money vs love? There’s also the labor of child care and cooking and cleaning that he provides that would be close to $2000 on top of the income (if you include nanny, getting take out, and getting a maid) Obviously I would still love him if he lost his job because he got fired/laid off but right now $2000 is kind of chump change. Hell…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:57 PM
2

The metaphor of restaurant to patron isn’t comparable as one 5 star restaurant is able to serve many patrons at once. I guess if you are advocating for multiple folks dating 5 star people great. But unless we all become 5 star caliber under your model only the top people will date. I mean I guess if you’re just pointing out that everyone would want to date someone in theory that’s 5 stars I guess that’s not wrong. But the metaphor breaks down again as dating isn’t essential unlike food. You migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:27 PM
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Yeah they basically don’t have any sympathy or empathy. They think life is an rpg and they’re the main character instead of an mmo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:59 PM
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I don’t think it’s a big deal. But I guess most women aren’t making 100k. Maybe saying money isn’t important is a luxury. A women making 30k can’t afford a mortgage and child care with another man who’s making 30k.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:48 AM
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I met my husband at 30 married at 34 kids at 35 and 37. The sour grapes revenge fantasy is largely untrue. When I met him I was making $60k and he was making 30k. He was looking for a better job and he’s much more domestically inclined too. Now I’m making 100k and him like 70k so we are both doing better and we can afford kids. But 30 is not too late at all especially in the educated middle class demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:01 PM
3

Oof. That’s why ugly duckling have a lot of power. They grew up ugly with all the trials and tribulations that comes with it. Then after they’ve developed other skills they become hot and glow up so they can get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:52 PM
1

What’s so terrible about what he says?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:06 PM
2

I would wager either these women are poor or have a weird foodie kink. The first is self explanatory. If you’re poor and you’re facing starvation or are just craving a non ramen noodle meal you might be tempted. I’m not rich but I won’t waste my time on a mean with someone I’m not interested in. From a purely selfish stand point eating out with someone I’m not interested in sounds exhausting. From a selfish stand point I would accept food sent to my house. I still wouldn’t do that out of moralit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:54 PM
1

Yes. If his attitude is great you can absolutely have great sex with him. The only thing that could potentially vary is dick size but even size queens can have their filled up feeling if guys were willing to use toys. I definitely have seen posts where guys are threaten by toys instead of embracing it. The only case I can see if kinks not matching and having incompatible styles. A submissive guy might not have the acting skills to please a submissive woman and a dominant guy might not be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:05 AM
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And this is why women only go for the top 20% with casual hook ups. If you get pumped and dumped but someone who is attractive enough based on physical traits, well at least you got to have sex with a big guy. If you have sex with someone you thought was a nice guy who’s cuter enough who you thought had potential it would suck. Aside from the obvious hot guys are hot reason, hot is east to vet. Someone can fake an awesome personality for a few dates until there are cracks that eventually come.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:58 AM
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Probably more like they’re focused on casual and placing emphasis on looks. So it could be social media brainwashing with extra steps but if the older guy in question looked good they’d still hook up with him. And actually good, not just good for his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:54 AM
10

The case for making kids have a lesson on finding whether mean, median or mode is the most appropriate measure of central tendency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:28 PM
1

I shave because it’s more comfortable in the pits and genitals area without a bunch of coarse hair. Legs is aesthetics. On guys I would say a trim on both pits and genitals are appreciated both from not being as stanky and it’s more pleasing. For legs freshly shaved guys legs is nice but it quickly becomes stubbly as they tend to have thicker hair than women. The 5 o’clock shadow of legs isn’t attractive so I wouldn’t expect most guys to keep up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:39 PM
2

I would frame it in terms of probability with real life relationships you see as data. Which is why when people who are unattractive say they can’t find partners I call bs. Just walk down any Walmart aisle. It’s full of I’m ahem, less than attractive couples to put it charitably. They are either trying to get someone more attractive or have a social issue. Based on what I’ve seen most couples are matched fairly closely in looks, education, values, etc. So if someone is aiming for someone signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:28 PM
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I think attraction is instant and it’s just a ohh factor that is a lot of different characteristics that hits you. You can analyze it and try to figure out if it’s looks, the way they talk, their social status etc. But yeah obviously a hot guy who comes in and orders a coffee from a barista could be attractive to her even if all he said was I want a medium with cream no sugar. Or getting a crush on a guy in your class that you only discussed math problems with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:17 PM
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Like immortality? So you’re around forever looking young and pretty? Or biological clocks don’t exist and you can have a kid at 50? If you have forever then you have room for many different people at varying levels of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:03 AM
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Your post is well written and you’ve given this some thought. But I think you’re overthinking it or being a alarmist using “addiction”. I would argue it’s not that deep. People mature as they get older. Both men and women. After being young and dumb and jumping into bed with regrettable people both men and women become more careful with who they sleep with. Now if some men never had that lesson they might be the loudest squeakiest wheel because they got with bad women from lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:08 PM
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If I’m bring objective like hire that guy! And evaluating based on universal appeal super charming in the classic sense (not like sexual) I’d say cory booker when he was mayor of Newark. He had charisma and the way he listened to you made you feel like he genuinely cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:33 PM
1

I feel bad having to turn someone down so emotionally I can’t get to the flattered happy for a compliment part because I’m like awww I’m really sorry. No one likes being the bearer of bad news.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:25 PM
1

Everyone can shoot their shot as long as they can take a no gracefully. And people should be graceful when saying no as long as they were nice about it. On the flip side if you’re aiming too high be ready to be alone for a while. The guy in this scenario and the woman who was sleeping with chad in those youth who are supposedly alpha widowed all have the right to keep looking for people that meet their standards but can’t do surprised pikachu face when they’re alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 05:43 PM
2

We should replace high value with high demand. I know in economy those are the same. And high value doesn’t mean high quality necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 05:34 PM
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The attractive men who can have more than one woman are the gate keepers of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 05:21 PM
1

We as monke species aren’t wired to bf monogamous. If you look at the cheating going on we can see the tendency is to not be monogamous. The most common theory is that we shared a hearth with a partner but having sex with other partners was common as well and wasn’t a big deal. The actual mating behavior we exhibit reflects this programming. Now I’m not saying that poly is superior. Just that it’s more natural for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 05:18 PM
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I had lots of fwb and they were enjoyable. Some casual hook up with guys I’ve seen around in college as well. There was no weird validation issues. I only hooked up with I guys I found physically attractive. I do have my type of nerdy thin to fit guys and being a girl in the engineering program made good pickins. And the guy knew it was just fwb for the most part too so no one’s feelings were hurt. If women have access to a bunch of cute guys why not? And I’m in a poly relationship with my husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:54 PM
2

Women will catch up. Right now men are starting to catch up with child rearing and house work. It used to be that that’s woman’s work. Then women who were working full time still had more child rearing and house hold chores. It’s still not perfect but getting better. There is a small but definitely present group of women saying as we start closing the wage gap we should be making more money in a relationship 50% of the time. This is in its infancy but think how little boomer men helped with chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:43 PM
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Attractive guys can’t just set up shop in a woman’s life. I know it’s done but he can’t count on it. Even if he’s physically attractive he’ll lose points by being a bum. Just look at strippers. Female strippers make bank while guys are just a novelty
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:38 PM
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I think a lot of people married someone they met in high school or college. I am in the nj nyc metro area so I am definitely spoiled in terms of meetups. If you’re in a rural area online might be your only option. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:15 PM
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The friend zone does imply that they continue to maintain contact in platonic settings. Unrequited love has the context of a guy pining from a far and moping but is ambiguous about if he’s friends and has contact with the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:19 PM
2

A lot of abusive and manipulation isn’t illegal and is often very subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:14 PM
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I definitely don’t agree with victim blaming and I am all for calling out abusers when you witness bad behavior. But that being said if “pick better men” is not coming place I’d blame or judgment and if coming from a “here are some classic red flags and warning signs to help you avoid potential abusers” I am all for that. A lot of abuse/steps that lead up to abuse isn’t illegal and you can’t do anything about it. Of course we should be yelling “stop being an abuser!” But I some how doubt yelling…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:13 PM
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Well there are two types of potential abusers. The ones that pretty much advertise it “I’m an asshole and I tell it like it is. Take it or leave it! Sorry not sorry!!!” And some naive women still go for them. Then there’s the more insidious type that’s super friendly, and can identify potential victims and reek them in until they get attached. And they play hot and cold to keep reeling them in. These guys are more dangerous as they often go after vulnerable women. Being insecure is like catnip t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:05 PM
1

Just live to be old. The men in the retirement communities are killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:46 PM
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I don’t think it’s the n count. It’s probably just if they’re hot or not. I don’t think low n count not hot women are exactly getting suitors. Maybe there’s some effect but I’m willing to bet it pales in comparison to being hot or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:57 PM
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Ohh fair, there’s also the unfair notion that they’ll get super clingy after. It’s definitely a loaded status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:15 PM
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I know people often say join a hobby. That’s common. But that’s not enough. The new faces at a local club can dry up. The key part is doing a hobby where you can go to larger events with a solid group. That way either way you have fun. Being seen with other people in your club is helpful too. The large events will have people you haven’t met yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:07 PM
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I think women definitely have specific types. My advice cons and events that cater to specific interests are great places to create a social network and see and be seen by a potential partner. Have a local runner’s club? Great. Maybe you’ll meet someone maybe not. Go to a 5k fun run with the club? Maybe one of them knows someone. Maybe you’ll chat someone up and get a contact. Maybe you’ll be seen by someone who’ll be bold enough to say hi at the running event. Replace running with any hobby. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:33 AM
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Some guys get all weird about virgin fetish so I wouldn’t tell unless it’s with a trusted partner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:49 AM
1

People approach it from the wrong direction. Most try to split up chores. The better way is to split up free time/me time. You both see how much relaxing time you get and even that out and figure out how to split that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:01 PM
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If I was in my early 20s and I still haven’t settled in my career or decided if I want kids I know I’m not ready for marriage or being marriage minded. If there’s someone else similarly minded it’s a good situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:32 PM
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Are you sure about the part where she got in the relationship just so she can make her friends jealous? I have no doubt there are boastful women who would brag about anything including their bf. But I don’t think it’s solely for the purpose of bragging. It’s not like an expensive car or shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:21 PM
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In theory redpill isn’t a moral system but rather the way things are instead of the way we wish things were. Obviously there’s debate on how things are. But if people agree this is how it works, how you use that info and whether it’s moral isn’t directly in the scope of the pills. So if some women see a system there’s no reason they can’t game it to try and get what they want out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:43 PM
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Keep in mind I’m 5’0
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:19 AM
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He’s a bit on the older side now but him circa 2000 sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:34 AM
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He was cute so we ended up in my dorm room because I invited him to watch futurama together lol. The classic hey it’s loud here wsnt to get out of here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:28 AM
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Hmm…are they a dwarf or a halfling? Ie are their limbs and body proportionate? I don’t think I would be into someone who’s got that stocky build. I can give a hard no on that. But if they were proportionate? If they were gorgeous in the face and were cool I think I can. I’m a big sucker for a pretty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:08 AM
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I haven’t met a guy lower than 5’0 in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:45 PM
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I’ve hooked up with a guy that’s 5’3”. I can’t imagine 5’0” being that difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:21 PM
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I want the guy to be taller than me. I’m 5’0 so I’ve never had it challenged but in theory if a very handsome <5’0 guy came along I might make an exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:10 PM
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Where are you approaching? Is it completely cold like a super market/coffee shop where everyone goes and there’s no other indication? Or is it warmer like a hobby shop or a concert?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:13 PM
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I also feel like girls tend to have a good group girl friends to lean on as opposed to guys and their boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 07:16 PM
1

I’m here if you need to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:51 AM
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We are poly so I’m ok. But I couldn’t do a mono-poly where the poly is only one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:25 AM
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I think you might be confusing homicide vs non homicide as opposed to homicide vs preeclampsia, homicide vs car accident. It’s just saying it’s the leading cause not more than every other cause combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:24 AM
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I wish I could be attracted to chubby guys. The world would be my oyster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:04 AM
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It would depend on why. If he’s not their type great. More pretty guys for me. If they’re concerned about his behavior and they think I have blinders on I would think on it. Especially if people who don’t know each other point out the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:01 AM
0

So why is it bad? The same argument for why high N count is bad can be attributed to men as well as women. Also what counts as a high n count? Because by definition the average number of partners of men and women in heterosexual pairings is the same assuming the same number of people. (Ie. The population is 50/50 m/f)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:33 PM
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Yeah no one is making them sleep with high N count women. That’s their prerogative if they want to only sleep with low N count women. But don’t be surprised if saying that actually repels all women, low and high N count
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:30 PM
2

But can a man get love? Or do they just live him for his money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:17 PM
0

Hmm barring the reason why there are no women billionaires, you don’t think an Elona Musk can’t get hot guys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:17 PM
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Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:14 PM
1

On the flip side I feel for guys that create a mess every time they jerk off. Sure you should wash your hands after even as a woman but you don’t have to worry about where it’s going or having it shoot way across and stick to something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:13 PM
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And sometimes you can’t just tell. The real crazy ones, while few in number, are very methodical and collected in their “hunt”. The angry guy that makes you on edge and stay away isn’t the guy that keeps you up at night. It’s the charming guy that you can’t tell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:09 PM
0

I think women need to step up on being willing to date “down” in terms of income. I’m not saying date unemployed bums but if you’re making 100k don’t turn your nose at the guy who’s working a 50k job. The wage gap exists but it’s shrinking. As it shrinks to zero, ideally it’ll be 50% women making higher. This is not unlike men needing to catch up on house chores and child rearing when both parties are working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:10 PM
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Men are looking for clean water in a desert and women are looking for it in the swamp. The dating sites have no incentive to stop negative feedback loop too. Guys swipe on everyone because they get so few but women get so much that they start ignoring everyone but the very few and guys get ignored so they keep swiping etc etc. If there was a non profit driven dating site aimed at making good matches we would benefit. OkCupid used to be a lot better. Anyone remember the personality test days?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:07 PM
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You’re not wrong that people are definitely pairing off on all degrees of attractiveness. However, of the chunk that are not pairing off, more women are vol-cel. Since men are less willing to just go their own way than women, the bar is higher for men. It might not be high but it’s higher than it is for women simply because women are more willing and able to be single. Now are they doing something seriously wrong? Not sure. Do these women who just don’t date have unrealistic expectations? Not su…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:38 AM
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When your type is slim nerdy guys and you’re a nerdy girl in the anime con/larp scene the world is your oyster?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:29 PM
2

I’m surveying my own personal group of friends/acquaintances old millennial here. My friends are also mostly millennials and some very young gen x. I think about 1/3 of my coupled friends met online dating including myself, 1/3 met in college, 1/3 met in the kink/con/larp scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:42 PM
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Hmm…does it count as a major glow up if he looked the same but was in a much better mental /social state? I guess it does. The guy got a job he likes and got his own apartment with cats. I always dismissed him as a good ball kid but I went out for drink one time because it was convenient and he was a fun guy to talk to and he was different and more attractive in the way he carried himself so we were fwb for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:42 PM
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My hope is that toxic femininity gets tackled in the next decades. It’s just as in grained. The flip side to toxic masculinity that demands the woman do all the house chores and child rearing even when they both work is the toxic femininity that demands the man make more money and have an equal or higher degree than the woman even if the pay /achievement gap is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:33 PM
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And I am able to tell which ones are more attractive if I was hiring for a male model placement company. I can tell one hairy muscular man is more attractive than another but I’m not attracted to either. I’ll take the less attractive pretty guy over the super hot bearded muscle guy. There are some universals that strike the chord with many. I think that’s why Chris helmsworth is such a big hit. He’s some how big and muscular but pretty at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:46 PM
3

What’s Indian dating/relationships like? Is arranged marriage common?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:33 PM
1

I like the pretty soft guys. If they dressed up as women the better they can pass the higher my attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:45 PM
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This kind of proves my point I posted in another comment thread. I don’t think top 20% of guys is quite right. Women are definitely pickier and are attracted to a smaller percent of guys. But I stand by that women have bigger variances in taste. I can’t do hair. I like the pretty guys with softer features. Some girls like hairy bearded dudes. One of my friends loves bald bearded guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:44 PM
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I think it’s the chicken /egg. Women like attractive guys. Attractive guys have tons of girls who want them so they can essentially “next” them and treat them as disposable. So it’s not them treating them as disposable. It’s because they can. An unattractive guy who can’t afford that behavior emulating it will get him no where.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:46 PM
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Genghis khan supposedly fathered enough kids that 16 million people today have traces of his dna lol. https://allthatsinteresting.com/genghis-khan-children
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:02 AM
1

Yeah. You discriminate based on ability in job interviews. You discriminate based on quality (or quantity?) at restaurants. Discrimination means you sort by certain criteria. That is not wrong. It’s what that is. It’s like using a knife. Is it wrong to use a knife? Not if you’re cooking up a tasty dinner. It’s wrong to stab someone with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:26 PM
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It depends on what it is. There’s no one size fits all but depends with how essential it is and much the person can charge the factor that is being discriminated against. Emt saying they don’t transport trans people to the hospital ? Pretty not ok. Karen being told to get out of a designer hand bag store after bullying a worker? Yes. There are tons of gray areas though. I mean if someone wants to start the Italian or Jamaican or Chinese or Indian culture appreciation club and wants to limit it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:50 PM
1

Oof. In all settings? (Ie work, public, party, friends groups)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:23 PM
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Yeah. One is professional and respect. The other is who you build up a life with. I mean unless you’re a literal whore lol. I guess if you refuse to sleep with someone based on race and you’re a prostitute then maybe it’s more wrong lol. But you’re still within your right to refuse service for being a jerk. Even night clubs have a dress code. There are different degrees of discrimination. One is making an effort to make someone’s life worse. For example bullying someone actively in the lightest …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:14 PM
2

I mean like discriminating in other areas like employment or being polite to customers etc. like if they’re like oh they’re bi, I’m going to harass the barista. Or oh I saw they’re bi on their social media. Guess they’re not getting hired/I’m not selling my home to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:57 PM
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Everyone is allowed a preference in that level of intimacy. But if they are disrespectful or discriminate then they cross the line. But it’s also good to wonder where these stem from. I don’t think it’s morally any different than a man saying I don’t want to date a woman with a high n count. Sure you’re entitled to your preferences but be ready to be asked why. It’s also one thing to quietly not date bi guys but a whole another thing to loudly declare it as something to be proud of. It’s the dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:37 AM
2

I would say it’s good to teach even boys to inspire men to protect them but not phrased like that. Having brothers, by blood or chosen, have your back and people knowing that can avoid fights all together. Situational awareness and not being the tough guy is much more useful then being some loud tough guy. The best fights are the ones that never happen and barring that one you’re waking away from unscathed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:20 AM
2

Yeah. The balance between shielding /protecting them from the world and making sure they’re prepared for it is hard to tow by age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:17 AM
9

The marshmallow experiment and delayed gratification is one big predictor of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:14 AM
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I had a trans gf (now ex) who I was close enough that I could ask questions that would seem probing. She told me she’s still the same person with the same thoughts values, intelligence and respect towards people. She said as a woman people, both men and women, smiled more, was nicer to you was generally more pleasant when interacting socially. However she said that when she spoke out ideas at meetings and suggestions she got talked over and got her technical proficiency questions. She was a ster…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:00 AM
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Is there something on top of the diabetes? Because I’ve seen students with type 1 manage just fine. One sports and healthy. Maybe it wasn’t managed well as a kid? I’ve also seen that happen where people don’t manage it well and now they’ve racked up other issues like losing toes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:15 PM
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Yeah especially with all the men here who say men peak later and go after young girls. This is actually proving them correct? And they’re still mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:40 AM
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Asking the poignant questions. It’s the common trope here that top 20 > attractive women > unattractive women > unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:34 AM
1

I’m not going to mention stuff that would make me not want to even be their friend (ie racist, narcissistic, boring, etc) and instead focus on qualities that makes them not dateable but I would still be their friend and invite them to parties etc. I think the one that smacks in the face is desperation. A guy can even be very handsome and it still comes off as unattractive. It’s almost visceral. There was one guy whose profile and pictures I found very attractive but there was some negativity and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:38 AM
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I’ve never been cold approached. Not even when I was younger. But I’m from nyc and no one does that I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:36 PM
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So let’s say the women are the bottom 25% of the barrel and the men are the bottom 75%. Where are the 25 to 75% women hanging out? Are they harems to the top 25% of men? Are they just ok with being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:34 PM
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I don’t think it’ll be as much as sugaring explicit like they do right now with web sites but I definitely can see soft sugaring being a thing. Where the woman can have a hot younger and intelligent bf and he pretends like it’s not about the money. Because while dick is cheap and plentiful high quality dick is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:25 PM
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Also if it’s using each other as in this guy is hot enough that if it doesn’t go anywhere it’s doesn’t matter had sex. But I am curious like if you don’t like them for a ltr isn’t t just about sex? Or do you mean a long term ish friends with benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:50 PM
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I really feel like at that point it’s arguing semantics. If you only point is men tend to be more vocal in expressing their distaste for higher n counts sure. And I can see the 5 guys getting nothing in the above scenario complaining about high n count women. Ironically if one woman was an actual whore and balanced out the chads by allowing the guys getting nothing to have release the n count would be more equally distributed. If we are getting semantics unless the women is having sex for money …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:58 AM
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There’s no way that the male average N count is lesser than or greater than the female N count in heterosexual pairings and equal numbers of men and women. The issue is the distribution and the standard deviation of the N count. If anecdotal evidence is believed chad is the super whore and if there are all these sexless men then the n count of women pales in comparison to the top men. For example let’s say there’s 10 guys and 10 girls. Chad is sleeping with 7 of the women and brad is sleeping wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:52 PM
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The testosterone is only one aspect of the high n count and is a behavior that’s more in the realm of control. We aren’t feces flinging monkeys so if someone has a certain value hopefully they can hold themselves to it. Obviously people are free to pursue whatever and try their luck with the dating scene. But if you make the n count a moral assertion and you don’t follow it then you are a hypocrite. Having a penis or vagina isn’t in your control. You n count is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:18 PM
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Are we talking percentile when we say 6-9 guy? Because unless we’re talking the top guys getting a harem situation or a bunch of women going volcel the math isn’t adding up. Your situation could only really happen if most women were happy not to have a relationship while more men were looking for one. Then yes, a 6 woman can date an 8 guy because the 8 women aren’t looking for a relationship. Another case is the harem situation where several 6s are happy to be sharing an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:56 PM
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It’s not you thinking men are more attractive than women. It’s about what percent of the gender you’re attracted to think you’re also attractive. If we ask the population of men to say yes or no to is she attractive enough to date assuming everything else is ok more men will say yes to more women. If we had 100 men say yes/no to 100 women and Vice versa there will be more men yeses than women yeses. Even if you would say yes to more men that won’t change the dynamic as you’re not going after the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:19 PM
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No, because they kind of seem like the equivalent to the toxic aspects of red pill that try to game the system to manipulate women. It seems like both sides are the leftovers that have to resort to strategy lol. I follow the blue pill advice for myself “if you just be yourself and just live life you’ll meet someone” and I met good people. However I also acknowledge that it’s not that easy for some folks. I tend to attract cute nerdy guys. I am often to aggressor though and I have not encountered…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:38 PM
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I guess there’s some debate room for what defines a chad. But what women really want is an alpha bucks. Women complain men just want to sleep with them and won’t commit. This is because these chads have a bunch of girls but will only commit to one leaving a bunch who was hoping for more disappointed. I read a comment in another thread where pro athlete/celebrity level chads have wives who are ok with mistresses as long as resources aren’t being diverted to them. That is the giga chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:59 AM
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Yeah there’s the top 20% chads and the giga chads like famous model tier celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:48 AM
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What do you mean they ignore you first? If they “left you on read” the better narrative is that you didn’t even notice or care that they didn’t respond. And even if that’s a lie fake it till you make it and they will be the ones wondering why you’re not groveling for them to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:40 AM
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Since we are talking hypothetical I would date the one with less drama. Now if we roll the dice the one with 50 might have an accidental baby mama floating out there, crazy stalker etc. so without any info I would date Dario. But if Mario is std free and all his previous partners are safe and sane and moved on are on good terms while Dario’s has a crazy obsessive ex I would definitely date mario. So all things being equally unknown the lower n count is probably less drama. But if there is confir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:35 AM
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I mean I guess there’s always exceptions but if someone is chasing after virgins in particular and they have tons of experience there’s something off in their desires dynamic. If someone is dating someone who happens to be a virgin that’s different from going after low/no experience folks when you have lots of experience. That’s part of why both genders often don’t disclose their virginity after a certain age. At least not until they’re dating someone for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:15 AM
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I think it depends on if it’s sexual or not. If they have some “first time deflowering” kink it’s a fetish I think but I think it’s also from a “logic” point where they feel like virgins will be more loyal and better partners because they don’t have baggage or expectations. If you have disparate life experiences the one with more can definitely manipulate more. If a guy is also a virgin /inexperienced I can see wanting someone with similar levels. But if they aren’t it’s about control
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:47 AM
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Women aren’t as attracted to just looks. Or to be more nuanced there’s only a small percentage of men whose looks are good enough to attract women. However enough men follow rule 2: don’t be unattractive. If you belong to this category you can woo a woman with personality status etc. If you can’t follow the don’t be unattractive rule you’re going to have a tough time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:18 PM
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How often are there physical threats in this day any age? I guess that’s first world privilege but it’s not an often encountered issue. And in America guns are the great equalizer. Street harassment would stop if the harasser thought there’s a decent chance the woman is armed. I get that in hand to hand combat or melee men definitely have the advantage but in a shoot out it’s usually who has the best cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:00 PM
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They also think if you snag a virgin she’ll only love you and that’s the only way to have a family. That’s why they fetishize virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:56 PM
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Do you know of the tale of the three blind men and the elephant? There blind men come across an elephant. One touches its tusk and goes ah, an elephant is long smooth and hard like a spear. One touches the trunk and goes it might be long but it’s bendy and soft like a snake! Another touches the leg and goes you are both wrong. Elephants are thick and tree like! The men started to argue and decide to go their separate ways. To me i read the account of other folks like one of the blind men if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:02 PM
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I think the pills concern themselves with getting /keeping sexual access but the actual technique is not with in its scope unless it’s related to the first two topics. Ie: “what have your tried in bed that satisfies a partner” isn’t appropriate for this sub. But “what effect does satisfying a partner have on long term relationships vs just in the dating phase?” Would be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:09 AM
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If the shame/putting in sex token until a relationship falls out is out of the equation and pure lust is the driver why would women not try to get with the hottest guys then can get with? And the hot guys would be happy to have the smorgasbord or hot enough women as variety. This assumes that without stigma and expectation of sex leading to something is wiped away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:06 AM
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I think a lot of good posts detailed why just attention isn’t making things easier. But also there’s the risk of meeting someone with a date and getting assaulted or worse. Now probability wise it’s a lot lower. But let’s make an equation. If there’s 1,000,000 guys feeling frustrated and unwanted let’s say that negative feeling is worth 1 point. 1,000,000 x 1 = 1,000,000 points worth of negative emotions in that gender. Now let’s say for women only 1 in a million women got raped and or sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:02 AM
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My husband got 6 weeks from his job and I got diddly squat so. I guess any leave period would be helpful. He got full pay too. Why would a man not take that unless he didn’t want kids? Unfortunately I think the way to get parental leave more robust is for men to demand it and then since you can’t just favor men as a policy the benefits will trickle to women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:53 AM
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This. If there was a horny thermometer women can get just as high as guy. Let’s measure that when she’s in the presence of Chris helmsworth or Jason momoa. It’ll be up there for sure. Now for a guy most random girls that are halfway decent can get his horny temperature as high as Chris helmsworth and Jason momoa can to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:48 AM
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Both are right but you just need to be more nuanced. There are two contexts to horny. One is the horny level of wanting sex with a certain person in a way that’s so bad that your sexual organs ache with desire. In this context women are just as horny as men. Maybe even more. If we had the proverbial horny thermometer and you took their temperature it would register just as high. Buuuuut the part that you’re stating is also relevant. The number of guys that can get a girl to that high on the horn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:45 AM
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Actually there was one guy who was attractive enough but a bit of a loser but then got his act together and got his own place a cat and I was happy to hook up with him. And yes it’s hooking up like Netflix and chill. Not like beta buxxing. He definitely leveled up and his confidence and the way he carried himself was different. We hooked up for a bit but then went our separate ways because it wasn’t quite relationship materiel. This is anecdotal but I’m not that special. Btw he didn’t lose weigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:36 AM
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The best spies aren’t being flashy and James bondesque. They’re slightly stodgy middle aged guys that don’t stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:23 PM
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Donate sperm? Isn’t there some guy with 50+ progeny?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:02 PM
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The one big difference is that sex and the city is a fictional show. You can say it sets a bad example and some people can’t separate fiction from dating advice. But sex and city hardly shows their characters as perfect. Carrie even goes to therapy because she chooses the wrong men. On the other hand trp is almost the opposite where they are selling fiction fantasy as something that could be true if the person following it does it correctly. Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:01 PM
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I’m the planner in this relationship. My husband lols that if it wasn’t for me he’d have no friends. He’s a friendly guy and he’s great once they’re here but I’m the one that gets contacts and follows through. Same for our dates. But he does take care of the home. I think he keeps things running and I make sure we have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:04 PM
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You can’t use the black community as a case study unless you also mention the prison industrial complex. Also there’s no inherent reason the previous way was better. There’s no conspiracy by the state to engineer this. It might be a product of the equal rights movement but the state can hardly organize health care it’s not going to organize some secret gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:27 PM
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I think people like to talk crap in either direction. The ones who are the most vocal/gets the most attention are the folks who complain the loudest. I don’t think most women are like this but social media amplifies the shrillest and most outrageous. But my husband is much happier being that one that nags and complains about the unappreciated laundry fairy lol. Me saying yup the kiddo threw up. Husband changed the sheets and wipes up while I bathed the baby isn’t going up on social media. Lots o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:53 AM
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Yep guys try to look like they’re above women but when they claim they would love it if women approached they mean women who they find attractive. In that respect they’re no better than women. I mean it’s obvious that approaches from someone attractive is welcome and the opposite not. It’s got nothing to do with gender except men don’t have the first hand experience of being approached so they can stay on their high horse and go I would love it if women approached me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:34 AM
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Then traditional blue pill isn’t working for them either. But I guess you’re not op. Do you think the most unattractive are just going to be single because even they are too unattractive to each other? Or are unattractive women more fine with just getting sex/staying single
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:14 AM
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Even from a purely selfish point of view of wanting orgasms women should be more active lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:48 PM
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I think society places too much emphasis on males being the active one during sex. Think the guy “giving” her an orgasm. Not the woman giving him an orgasm. This results in women mistakenly thinking they’re supposed to be passive and aren’t responsible for their own pleasure. As you get more experience you learn to speak up/take charge for your own pleasure. So I wouldn’t say comparison but I think women tend to need more experience and knowledge to have pleasurable sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:12 PM
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The red pill is amoral. It’s a system based on what people observe and men (and women ) can use it to their advantage whatever their goals maybe. There is room for debate on whether the red pill model is accurate or to what extent. But at its core red pill is a system of what is and what might be but is not a system of what should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:07 PM
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Who are the below average women dating? Or are they just hooking up with average and above average men but not getting the ltr?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:00 PM
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I haven’t had the experience of lowering my looks standards for my bf/husband. We started hooking up but we discovered we worked together. He is one of the best looking guys I’ve actually met in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:43 PM
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I only sleep with guys I find attractive so there’s no end goal. If there’s more great, if not I still got to have sex with a hot guy. Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:10 PM
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At whet length do you count it as ignoring? If I’m highly invested I might table a message if I’m distracted because I want to put more through into it rather than lol cool. If I’m not that invested and I’m just chatting to see where it leads I might put lol cool right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:22 AM
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I like meeting online and then moving to in person. I am open to meeting in real life but don’t put energy into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:20 AM
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I would argue personality is usually a two way street. While looks can be two way, it can and usually is one way. Think about the number of people that find scarlet johannsen or Chris helemsworth attractive. Do they find them attractive back? No. But I would argue if someone doesn’t like your personality you wouldn’t like theirs. So being rejected for your looks stings because you could find them attractive. Being rejected for personality usually means you’re not compatible and you’re also “reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:18 AM
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None that I can recall but I guess it depends on your definition of casual? I don’t just sleep with random but mostly friends with benefits of guys I’ve been chatting with online for a while. I actually mean it when I say I like chatting before I meet up and I still intend to meet. I was chatting online and hanging out on an mmo with my husband before I met him in like 4-5 months. But I have a lot online friends so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:08 AM
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Not me. Obviously it depends on the women in question but if it’s otherwise cool folks I’m delighted it if more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:04 AM
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I feel like the metrics are like bmi. Sure there is definitely more to health than just bmi. Sure an individual can have a high bmi and still be healthy and fit like the rock or swartzenager in his prime. But when studying large populations it’s a useful metric. You can make some sweeping conclusions about a state if it’s bmi is 40 vs 22. You can make some conclusions if a state’s bmi goes from 22 to 40 over a decade. Is everyone from Mississippi obese? No of course not. But can you compare the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:54 AM
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I mean I’ll be corny dad for a second and say this isn’t the airport you don’t need to announce your departure. But your top statement is about poignant as saying “if you’re not successful at dating you’re not successful at dating….tadaaaaa” attraction literally means two objects coming together so if no one is coming ti date you you’re not attracting anyone this you’re not attractive. I would actually agree with you on your body fat theory had you posted this as as factor in dating. It would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:55 AM
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I wouldn’t say my standards are high but they are particular. I like my guys more femme with softer features. I guess the easiest way to get it across is if they were trans and wanted to transition that would have an easy time passing lolol. Maybe not the most pc descriptor but probably the most effective way to communicate exactly what I like. But I would also argue many women are particular and we are not all in agreement and that’s a good thing. Some girls looove brawny tatted guys. I knew a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:46 AM
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Yes in China with the one child policy that resulted in femicide the men went to SE Asia to find brides to the point where those countries’ men started having trouble with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:23 AM
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Guys are Sarah Lawrence has a blast. Especially since there’s a bunch of gay guys too so pickin are even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:22 AM
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Obviously it’s not most men but most of the elite are men. A: you are elite B: you are a man You’re claiming since we said A -> B we also said B -> A. The only inference you can extrapolate is ~B -> ~A. Please take a logic class. Now you could argue whether bringing up the the elites is relevant. That’s fair. But saying we’re saying B -> A isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:18 AM
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I feel like in this society the men are at the extreme ends of both. How many women are on death row/prison ? How many women serial killers /school shooters are there? How many homeless people begging on the street are women? I’m not sure why the men make up the both extremes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:15 AM
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It’s crazy. I read that Chinese guys are looking for wives in south east Asia now and it has impacted them as well. There’s a whole generation on men with the missing women being affected by this. And so much for the parents who thought their son would take care of them in their old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:12 AM
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Logistically it would be very different though. One man can impregnate hundreds of women especially if we use modern tech where he doesn’t necessarily have to have sex with them. On the flip side a women can only carry one baby or maybe two. Even with tech you can be octomom I guess. Anything beyond that is pure science fiction (ie harvest eggs and out them in an incubator ) The way the rarer gender is kept safe and secured might be the same but the survival of the species being in question isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:10 AM
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Yup. I mean if you look at South Africa where there’s literally rape insurance and the spiky anti rape thing you put in your vagina you can see where it could lead waaaay down. But it could also flip. But it would definitely change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:06 AM
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Yup. I mean if you look at South Africa where there’s literally rape insurance and the spiky anti rape thing you put in your vagina you can see where it could lead waaaay down. But it could also flip. But it would definitely change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 08:06 AM
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It’s the different between visual stimulation and long term emotional stimulation. It’s kind of like this. Let’s say there are 4 categories and you must score 10 points to be overall attractive enough to sleep with. Physical: how attractive are you visually and viscerally? Emotional : is there an emotional attachment and caring of each other’s well being? Social : is this someone that’s charming and fun to hangout with? Is this someone that can introduce me to more experiences and more friends? …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:56 AM
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Yeah I run the high school anime club and we get some kids that come to hang out because it’s a chill place and we play games too. But it’s like high school so it’s not that serious. Besides if anyone is jerk in either direction I’m there lol. Too bad some adults have less maturity than some high schoolers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:37 AM
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Yeeeah the competitive cosplayers are weird. At least if you’re in their who’s who group. I knew a girl was aaaanazing at it but she told me the drama that’s behind the scenes and I’m like I would say get a hobby but apparently a super complicated elaborate cosplay making hobby isn’t enough to keep you focused away from drama so I’m not sure what would lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:34 AM
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Actually grieving people are especially susceptible to being “comforted”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:41 PM
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That’s true no matter what gender. No one wants their hobby sanctuary tainted. Only difference is men might not find the woman physically threatening. I feel like the anime scene does this to girls as does the video game scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:40 PM
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https://stateofchildhoodobesity.org/adult-obesity/ Yeah it’s not your imagination. The data says it’s happening everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:04 PM
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I think coffee meets bagel does something kind of like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:56 PM
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How old are you? As you get older it is harder to find people your age who are single. But the best thing I’ve found is becoming part of a community that is big enough that there’s new people coming and going but initiate enough that you get to know people. For example, being in a local runners club is great but maybe after a bit you’ve gotten to know most people and they are either not available or not compatible. But the club goes to 5k /fun run/iron man events. This is the best of both worlds…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:35 PM
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I’m not sure how in rule with the cmv this is but find the true assholes try to turn it down until they have the woman but then they start showing their true colors. That’s why you see assholes with women. They didn’t start that way but they’re there based on deception and momentum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:31 PM
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I wouldn’t be into a complete met at the bar that night level casual but I would be open to a guy I’ve seen around the bar a few times or a guy that I’ve been chatting with online for a bit. The bar is higher for physical attractiveness because that’s the basis for it. But the ability to hold a conversation and be interesting is important too. I wouldn’t place much value on jobs or big life goals. With a guy I’m dating for a long term thing I would look for life style/goals compatibility. I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:45 PM
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Bi girl who dated a pre-op trans girl. I would be fine with this reality. In fact it would be super great. But I don’t think I’m typical so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:39 PM
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I think you look pretty good now. I’m going to preface this with the obligatory you should do what you do want with your body and pursue your goals. But if you’re trying to maximize appeal to the most women, you are build enough to be appealing. All you need to do now is cut and get more definition. Any more muscle will be diminishing returns and there is point where it’s a turn off. I think /fit/ is probably the most universally appealing in the sense that it’s sexy enough to be attractive but …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:38 PM
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I think part of it is that men tend to go into the trades/physical work more. These are male dominated jobs that pay well but don’t need a college degree. Women’s equivalent I would say is maybe nursing/medical technicians. These tend to be female dominated and pay well but you do need a degree. So it’s not some issue that’s going to need to be addressed. Men aren’t falling behind on money /jobs. However I do concede that many women who are educated will want a similarly educated man but that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:30 PM
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This is a bad analogy because you can’t accidentally have sex. With driving killing anyone is bad but the rank goes Pre mediated hit on someone to off them, stalking them, knowing their routines and when they hit that crosswalk…bamn!! < driving drunk and hitting someone < accidentally hitting someone that “came out of no where” So if we transfer that logic to cheating, while all cheating is bad Making plans to cheat with intention that’s pre meditated < cheating while drunk < whoops I tripped an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:21 PM
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Yeah serious. What women won’t tell the company to F off she wants her health care? Even if she was a selfish person won’t having more money be a good thing for her bottom line as well? That makes no sense. Maybe times were different?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:01 PM
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Yeah I don’t get why guys use this stats like women are more likely to leave and betray you and it’s her fault. If a guy cheats on his wife or abuses her and she “initiates divorce” then that’s clearly the guy’s fault. You can’t make much conclusions based on that stats unless you’re a divorce attorney. Then maybe you can make your ads more targeted at women I guess lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:09 PM
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You’re coming from the wrong side. It’s not splitting the chores. It’s splitting the free time. Both parties should have equal amounts of “me” time. So that could be they each a day a week or a month to go out and do something of whatever. But yeah it’s better to work backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:28 AM
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I feel like they’re the opposite side of the toxic aspects of mgtow. They basically would be their counter parts but both parties are so awful they want nothing to do with each other. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:46 PM
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I agree. I also see that equal opportunity doesn’t always mean equal results. With something relatively non controversial like physical strength there would be a gap between the number of men who qualify vs the women who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:44 PM
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Also you have more life experience. I suppose a 25 year old could claim he’s been at the same job for 15 years and he’s now 40. But even then there should be some differences in the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:40 PM
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How so? Genghis khan had so many kids that lots of people can still trace it. I’m talking just sleeping with women and not child support. I guess the limiting agent would be literally be the couple of minutes it takes to sleep with someone. I guess if you’re talking rock stars with groupies level of sperm quality. But I doubt anyone will hit genghis khan levels except possibly through sperm donation where they don’t even have to sleep with a woman to win evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:43 PM
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Yeah. Hopefully this isn’t so rare that they need a special name for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:39 PM
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Because from an evolutionary perspective sperm is cheap and being pregnant is not. Evolution doesn’t care about what’s moral or even what’ll bring happiness to the individual. It goes based on what works and for a male impregnating as many females as possible is probably the best way to endure his genetics gets passed down. It’s less to do with dick be vagina and more to do with sperm vs egg. But this was in the days before child support or even stds. In the eyes of evolution the agricultural re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:34 PM
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38F poly with kids. I feel like everyone is purple pill with different shades. The pills are one way of categorizing and I don’t think anyone is all one or the other anymore than you can ask someone are you good or bad? The bluish aspects of my beliefs are you can “be yourself” and most people will find someone. The reddish part is questioning what it even means to “be yourself”. I doubt anyone sincerely believes that “being yourself” is them living in their parent’s basement with a crap retail …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:55 PM
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True. I know it’s going against biology but men are just as free to impose standards on women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:31 PM
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I’m sure the entire nursing profession and obgyn midwife would beg to differ. Obviously not limited to them but these are such counter examples to op’s point. Teaching is also pretty female dominated too as is any carer professions. If anything women are more in the caring and nurturing professions while men are in it to make money and get status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:27 PM
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Yeah I’m agreeing with you. Some people don’t get the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:49 PM
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if they don’t sound distinct you’re likely not breaking rule 2
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:42 AM
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It depends on what you mean by equality. If you’re nitpicking to the point of twins not being equal because they have different experiences I think you should just use the word same. To be equally means you have the same opportunity to pursue happiness. Results aren’t guaranteed but you should be measured by your ability. For example I want there to be a good physical requirement for fire fighters. I hope they can haul people out of there if needed. Now if we have these requirement will there be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:33 AM
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Yep pretty much this. Rule 1 of be attractive is important but not always achievable. Being fat breaks rule 2 of don’t be unattractive. Those that claim otherwise has never been fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:25 AM
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I’m going to argue with the interested part. If you strike that then I would agree. A girl can be attracted but still reject him. He could be super hot but he’s her co-worker. He could be super rich but he’s a bit of a jerk . He could be fun to be around but he lives 5 hours away. Maybe it’s semantics but she is most definitely not completely attracted and interested if she rejected you. Maybe the only time I’d accept that is if she’s in a failing relationship and she is super interested but a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:24 AM
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This is pure speculation but I feel anecdotally that men are less likely to get a formal diagnosis. Part of is the misandry of “man up stop moping just hit the gym bro” boys don’t cry attitude prevalent in the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:55 PM
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Basically catching up to the women. Women are better with going without sex so they’re mostly already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:15 PM
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As many said it will never be explicit. But when you pay property tax and you don’t have kids you are paying for public education. There’s also less tax if you have kids too. I think marriage helps in certain cases too. But I highly doubt they explicitly tax you for being single. As dumb as politicians are they are clever about the spin. “That’s just <single tax> with extra steps!” But the extra steps make it more palatable and they know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:07 PM
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We’re both pretty active in the kink/poly community and we know. I don’t really keep count especially since people some how only seem to think piv is real sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:58 PM
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There are enough guys who won’t care. Or if they do not enough to not marry her especially if she’s hot/doesn’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:52 AM
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Priorities change as you get older. Would the women ideally like someone hot when they settle down? Yes. But is it a requirement? No. So you could say that the women who enjoyed hooking up in their youth when they weren’t sure what their career /family/ life style goals but did not land the hottest guy their hooked up with is ultimately the “life match” with the beta bucks she ultimately settles with. But the whole issue is that they’re not the “same” in that the guy is going to be missing out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:38 AM
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I’ve been reading through the comments and op’s replies and I will concede that women don’t place the same level of fetishization that men place on virginity. While the emphasis is different men and women want the same thing: those desires by many but chose them. But with women it’s taken for granted that men want them so that part isn’t emphasized. Instead men fetishize the virginal aspect. Even with all these suitors her standards are so high that only he meets them. She only has eyes for him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:39 PM
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In terms of life on easy mode Attractive man > attractive woman > not attractive woman > not attractive man. Obviously there a difference in whey area. Being taken seriously in corporate /industry the unattractive guy will have an edge over the women and sometimes being overly attractive as a woman can be a distraction (though most of the time you can mitigate that by dress/make up) I wouldn’t mind being born an attractive guy but I don’t feel like I need to looks max as a woman to be attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:13 PM
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I think in the scratching a quick itch sense it is for their respective genders. Not the moral equivalence. It’s less about whether or not it’s right and more about the quick hit online that’s not of any substance. Now if we want to debate why men are more violent than women and why the need for violence exists that’s a whole other separate post/topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:44 PM
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This might be semantics but you can claim a women is never incel but can be volcel. Single just means not seeing anyone and might not be looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:05 AM
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Agree. I’m poly so the whole jealous just because you’re sleeping with someone else is out but we definitely look over our partner’s partners. If they’re seeing people who seem negative and terrible you don’t want that in your life even if there’s no sex involved. If she has terrible female friends you also don’t want that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:04 AM
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Yeah there’s a difference between being grandfathered in versus accepting new requests. If my bf made me delete all my old guy friends from social media that is a no go but not accepting random guys from the past is not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:58 AM
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I think he followed rule 1: be attractive. If he’s super attractive but awkward it comes across as cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:52 AM
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Yep. I might argue bullet 3 might just be 6’0 though as that might be a filter women use. It’s the same reason things are priced at $9.99 in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:03 PM
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There’s a difference between being bad at gauging vs not willing to wait. There’s the flip side risk for women where the driven and talented guy who hasn’t struck success yet will dump her if she supports him if he becomes successful. Obviously no one is going to come out and say that so it’s hard to vet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:54 AM
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I think passion and competence is what’s actually attractive. If someone is successful because they’re lucky and it isn’t actually earned it’s not as attractive. If someone has those qualities but hasn’t struck success golf yet, they would still be attractive by my standards. But yeah they often go hang in hand with success. But I would find and artist who is passionate and makes beautiful artwork attractive even if he can’t sell his work or get galleries to accept it. On the flip side if some d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:47 AM
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I think it’s a way to get a certain type of woman. If she’s poor and just wants stability sure. But it’s far from the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:44 AM
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I don’t think this works if you’re actively unattractive. This will work if you’re unremarkable and average. There is a difference between not being attractive and being unattractive. The former is ignored and overlooked. The second is actively noticed like damn that dude is kinda gross. Let me quote my friend’s brutal assessment of the guy she’s dating. When asked “do you think he’s attractive?” She responded “well the through of kissing him doesn’t make me want to throw up”. Yup that’s pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:36 AM
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I would break up because if she’s that religious then there will be core value conflicts down the line especially with children. I can be more understanding of wanting to be serious before sex but this religious emphasis and fetishization of “purity” and “celibacy” is weird and not in line with my values. Seems like it’s not in line with Sean’s values either. It’s definitely a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:21 AM
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There’s a difference between being intelligent and being knowledgeable. Both have their advantages but they might mean different things. Raw intelligence is like processing power for a computer. It affects how people process new information and respond to it. It’s definitely necessary for two people to be of similar intelligence if they both value stimulating conversation. Being knowledgeable is not necessarily intelligence even if they’re likely correlated. It means that person spent some time …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:17 AM
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That’s fair. Sometimes I feel like ridiculous standards are a way for them to protect themselves from rejection/having to make an effort. They can just claim no one meets their standards and not have to risk putting themselves out there. Kind of an avoidance tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:34 AM
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Why is do an activity bad dating advice? I can see a disconnect between the sexes on tinder but actual activities are the way not so attractive guys get to show case their personality. Also women are capable of pattern recognition even if there aren’t as many of us in the stem fields. I’ve seen what works for my less than hot guy friends. I see tons of people get together in varying levels of attractiveness at nerdy conventions, kink events, gaming events, runners clubs/5k mile run Etc What guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:04 AM
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But the difference between a relationship and a job is that you kind of need a job to not be starving and homeless. So yeah you settle because the alternative is usually worse unless you’re a trust fund baby. But relationship is actually negative impactful on your life if it’s bad. I guess the job equivalent is several osha violations and abusive with no hr and you some how can’t sue them. So yeah I get what you’re saying but there’s a reason why that logic isn’t applied to something like a perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:52 AM
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Do you guys live together? This needs some clarification. Are we talking about a situation where you lived together and you didn’t do basic chores and see them as acts of service? Or are we talking living separately and she wants you to be her maid service while she doesn’t clean your place? In the first scenario no matter how attractive you are not being able to do basic chores like dishes or cook or take on a little extra when she’s sick will make her feel like your mom and not your lover. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:24 AM
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I feel like most women try to set people up with their match. Looks or otherwise. We won’t set up a homely guy with the hottest girl because she’d look at us like ummm are you serious? But we will set him up with a comparable girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:18 AM
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I’m not sure if this is cmv enough to be top. While I’m not challenging the “women should lower their standards” by saying no they should keep it, I am challenging the whole premise by saying isn’t this exactly the sub trope of afbb? In fact I’m pretty sure if anything most people here need a cmv that this doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:15 AM
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It’s already acceptable if you follow rule 1: be attractive and maaaybe if you follow rule 2. Don’t be unattractive. I’m not sure what more acceptance you want. The corollary to the rules is that getting hit on by anyone you don’t find attractive is always a bit creepy but if you are respectful no one will really pursue it to cause problems. That’s just a risk you take when you shoot your shot. There’s nothing stopping you from shooting your shot right now. You can also reduce the creepy factor …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:35 PM
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What culture are you a part of?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:32 AM
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What era are you thinking is better? I can’t think of an era that was better in terms of not being cruel to each other. People have always been the oppressor or the oppressed. If anything today is a better than the past in terms of safety and having a shot at happiness (barring traumatic things like Ukraine). Even if we go back to caveman times, before we became a society, it was still a pretty cruel place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:28 AM
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At what point do you want monogamy? Do you discuss exclusivity before you have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:37 AM
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By “asking out “ we don’t mean hey are you dtf?? But if you say like hey here’s my number want to get a couple of drinks sometime? It starts with a spark and determining whether there’s something worth pursing. It’s a little shallow but it’s also asking the partner to meet the minimum threshold of physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:23 PM
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Does he have delusional amounts of confidence? I am so curious where it comes from. I confident in most aspects of my life but when it comes to dating I only really make the first move if they’re already showing overt interest like them contacting me first and complimenting me etc. I can’t figure out what’s going on in their minds when they’re convinced a girl likes them because she didn’t tell them to F off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:21 PM
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There’s a few who aren’t that great but as a bisexual women most of their looks won’t break rule 2 of don’t be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:17 PM
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But the predictor is based off of couple that identify as couples. Meaning that they at least follow rule 2 of don’t be unattractive. I actually experimented in college and dated a guy who was not my type but was smart and great to chat with. It didn’t last because he had to depend on being charming and best behavior all the time to meet the threshold of being attractive. When he was not being his best, he dipped into being unattractive and it had no long term survival. I feel a little bad but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:14 PM
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Open inside
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:37 PM
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Then I just proved that it’s possible for 80% of people to be below the mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:31 AM
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That’s not necessarily true. There are cases where there are two bells or some other patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:29 AM
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Don’t open
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:57 PM
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Actually if depends on what you mean by average. Do you mean mean, median or mode? If you use median yeah 80% of guys can’t be below. But if you use a rubric based system instead of percentiles yes you can. If there are ten guys and there are two “10s” and eight “1s” the average is 2.8. Thus 80 % of guys are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:54 PM
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Women also getting with gender equality and being ok with dating a guy that makes less will also solve the issue. It won’t happen over night but they need to get with the program. It’s similar to men doing equal house chores and child care if they both work the same amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:50 PM
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Agree, but from your posts assuming monogamy is also going to make you an ass as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:44 PM
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I always assume the opposite actually. People are free too dare around until you have the exclusivity talk. I mean when do you expect someone to be just seeing you? Date 1? After a month? After sex? But in the end you communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:43 PM
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The biggest risk I would say is getting attached and then having zero rights if you break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:55 PM
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The rubric changes to include things like income, stability, etc. Is it that hard to get that you prioritize different things when you’re older and looking for a long term thing/family vs just hooking up for the night/the next few months? Apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:38 AM
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“Attractive” isn’t just physical. There’s various factors that add up. The rubric changes as your priorities change. Even being physically attractive isn’t a binary. Does not looking like Chris helmsworth mean you’re unattractive? Does not looking like chad mean you’re unattractive? If you meet a certain minimum threshold of “don’t be unattractive” then you’re good enough. It’s unrealistic for guys and girls to be the most attractive physical person every ti their spouse. Do I think scarlet joha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:36 AM
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Usually it’s on the onus of the person making a conjecture to prove it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:40 PM
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Women change what they want as they get older. Some of it might be conspiracy theory of ohh they got pumped and dumped by chad etc but I think Ockham’s razor says when people get older they want to settle down and they want to be more free and wild when they’re younger. This isn’t just for sex. It’s partying, extreme sports, trying out jobs/careers etc. So while women want different things and aren’t a monolith, the tendency for women ( and men too) is that they settle down as they get older. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:36 PM
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I think you’re placing men on a pedestal saying they’ll work hard to become the man that the woman wants. I guess what’s between the lines is that a man needs to be inspired by a woman to level up? And it’s a catch 22 where women won’t invest in a man unless he’s that person but many men won’t reach that potential without a woman to encourage/inspire him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:05 PM
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Better way to extend the analogy is if you drink some of the water you might get sick and it’s a lot of effort to clean up dirty water that you might just go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:59 PM
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In your title you say “advantage” which is not quite right because advantage implies it’s a good thing. Women do have more offers of sex but that’s necessarily what they desire so they will not look at it like an advantage. women do desire a companion and partner just as much as men. And all the offers of hollow sex isn’t an advantage when it comes to finding love/partnership. For men it’s finding drinkable water in a desert and for women it’s finding drinkable water in a swamp. So yes, women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:21 AM
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I think the reality is most people are looking for both but with different people. You’re hoping for “the one” but there are people you’d accept as a short term thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:29 PM
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It depends on context. Women definitely are interested and want sex. If your cmv is “women aren’t AS interested in sex” I would agree. Just look at how much lesbians vs gay men have sex. And with lesbian sex you remove a lot of the reasons straight women don’t hook up (fear of pregnancy, piv is riskier for std transmission, fear of assault as most men are physically stronger than most women etc) But that sounds like a dead bedroom situation with the woman but if you visit there there’s enough wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:27 PM
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I do feel like women are more particular in their tastes while men aren’t as picky. Some girls love the bearded barrel chested teddy bear guys, others like the thin sensitive boys, etc etc. That’s part of the be yourself trope but it’s be your best self. I like skinny long haired nerdy guys. Not a fan of beards and absolutely cannot do a hairy rug level of chest hair but know women who love those. We are both like yay more for us! When we know there’s differences in opinion. I don’t think guys a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:28 PM
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From my small circle of actually people I know in real life that I have seen and talked to (not oh did you hear? so and so’s husband…) I’ve seen men cheat more. But my circle is poly and so friends around my age have different definitions of cheating and the classic monogamy cheating is mostly based of older folk in our parents generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:22 PM
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How long term are you thinking? If you just want a fun romp for one night no reason not to use a sex worker who works for herself. If you use did diligence you can find one that’s not being trafficked but is selling her services. It’s not any different than someone else you see regularly for a service. Hair dressers and massage therapists with regulars might have a similar level of frequency. If you’re looking for a more intimate thing and not one night/session based, I would say sugaring works.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:13 PM
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I wonder if that’s a relic from man the animal where there would be losses from men hunting/warring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:59 PM
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But how can you tell if he’s actually having conversation with you and doing platonic activities? While you may be able to tell he might be interested in sex there’s no way to tell that’s the only thing. Also you know how much of an arrogant asshole you have to be to just say “btw I’m never going to sleep with you” out of the blue unprompted? Because even if it’s “obvious” if he never said anything explicitly there’s still enough plausible deniability that he can be like “woooow, what a crazy bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:36 AM
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Your description of these guys reminds me of the American dad episode where Stan moves the family to Saudi Arabia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:45 PM
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What do you mean just using them? If the guys are good company and she can’t tell all he wants is sex how is that her using him? Or are you saying girls are allowing themselves to be used by letting guys into their lives who only want sex so they need to be not be naive and be more aware so they don’t end up feeling used?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:56 PM
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I would say positive masculine traits are the wisdom and calm cool collectedness to know the difference between when you fight when to do diplomacy etc. The guy who fights every time is just a thug and the guy who never steps up is a coward. The guy who leaves others every time is selfish and the guy who helps every time is a simp. Knowing when to do what is a sign of strength both in mind and body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:09 AM
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What do you think is this trap? Like every guy is secretly plotting to get into your pants? There’s a big difference between would smash vs actively trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:05 AM
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I know that people low to hee haw at how women deem 80 % of men below average but in theory if there are 10 men and 8 of them are 1s and, and 2 of them are 10s then the average is 2.8 deeming 80% below average. I know that’s the most extreme example but it highlights the difference between percentile ratings of the 1-10 system vs rubric based 1-10 system.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:58 AM
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Why is it bad to have open relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:05 AM
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Exactly. It’s more like why do some guys even give an emotional response to people who they supposedly don’t even want. Don’t let people you don’t care about live rent free in your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:42 AM
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Back in my day when men were men and not x…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:41 AM
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Women can decide who they sleep/date/marry. So the better question is why do men listen to women and allow them to dictate what constitutes a real man? Same for the flip side. There’s guys that rant about how women ought to behave. In the end it’s up to the individual to determine if the person who is giving the advice/decree is someone whose approval/company you’d seek and use that as a guide to see if you want to follow what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:41 AM
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Won’t the flip side be that you’re following overly sexualized content and you’re seeing a problem because of what/who you follow and it doesn’t make it a real problem for society as a whole? Now obviously we don’t know whose feed is more curated but social media is just that. Fb feed depends on who your friends are. IG feed depends on who you follow. Reddit depends on what subs you follow. Maaaaybe popular might be some reflection of what’s going on mainstream. So I guess if you’re seeing every…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:35 AM
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I enjoy debating on ppd at the sociology level and anecdotal level when the op is sharing to see where s/he fits in in the big scheme of things. But people who are posting anecdotes and trying to generalized it to everyone isn’t that interesting because they come in with an agenda and not to spark discussion. I remember the days of r/braincels and they actually used to have interesting discussions about where they fit etc. instead of just individuals crying and venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:11 PM
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It shouldn’t be. Supposedly the red pill is only a system/observation of what is and not what it should be. And then people who are supposedly clued into what “is” can use it to their advantage as opposed to all the people still living in the delusion/asleep in the blue pill world. The people who are red pill can and should have different goals if it’s a system of observation and behaviors. They would act differently based on their goals and there would be debate on what would be most effective …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:07 PM
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It shouldn’t be. Supposedly the red pill is only a system/observation of what is and not what it should be. And then people who are supposedly clued into what “is” can use it to their advantage as opposed to all the people still living in the delusion/asleep in the blue pill world. The people who are red pill can and should have different goals if it’s a system of observation and behaviors. They would act differently based on their goals and there would be debate on what would be most effective …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:03 PM
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Are you going out on dates? Or is she just a friend that you hangout with especially with others? If she’s at all intimidate with you (kissing cuddling etc) but just not sex because she wants to wait to be more established I would say it’s ok. In some ways kissing and having make out sessions is more intimate than sex. If she doesn’t do anything physical then there’s nothing going on. And obviously there’s no concrete timeline but I would say assuming you’ve been dating 3-6 months where you usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:49 PM
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So she’s facing the natural consequences of her standards. But if she’s actually happier single and using a sperm donor then that’s her prerogative as well. No one owes anyone a relationship and that gets both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:37 PM
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It’s not just props but it’s a signal to other women. If the man was just using them as props they wouldn’t keep him around as a friend. It’s a green flag to have female friends who tell you this guy is cool. It even works with male friends. People who surround themselves with fun attractive people are more attractive by association. That’s not using people. It’s called having friends and having a social network. People on Reddit love to one up each other on how anti social they are cry about su…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:10 PM
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If they were like 18 and just starting I would say option 2. Work hard and study and set yourself up for later. By that set yourself up for the life you want. Want to make more money but have enough free time to get to the gym/hobbies etc? Invest in your 18-25 year old self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:30 AM
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I would say my husband but I like bigger cocks and he’s 9”. That’s hard to find. I can definitely enjoy sex with smaller and there’s toys etc and I would like to think I would have married him if he was average sized or even small. But it does make it easier when he’s also the best sex you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:26 AM
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Guys need to have enough emotional intelligence/self reflection to know if they’re able to stay friends without turning bitter. Some people can be like ok cool and stay friends and snuff out that hope after getting rejected. This usually only happens if he shoots his shot early and then takes the rejection with grace and wasn’t that invested so he can just move on to being friends. And having female friends that likes you helps. She can set you up with friends and having attractive female friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:20 AM
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There’s a difference between actively trying vs would if there’s an ethical opportunity. If you’re in a relationship and the guy is a good man he wouldn’t try to get in or even meddle. But once it’s over he would shoot his shot. Now obviously you can’t 100% tell which category the guy is in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:14 AM
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If it works out getting married young is great but the later you get married for the first time the less likely you are to divorce. But there’s probably less people in your pool as you and your potential partners are already entrenched. If you’re 23 you’re probably not firmly established in your career and you are probably more likely to be able to relocate without losing out. Later you’ll be less likely to want to uproot your life for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:46 PM
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There’s a big difference between judging individuals vs judging trends. It’s king of like bmi. Sure it’s not the best indicator of health for a doctor to do a personal evaluation of one patient. But when someone in the health care industry is making public health choices knowing the gen pop’s bmi helps to see a snap shot of that town/state /country etc. Look at bmi is America vs Japan. Is it fair to say all Americans are fatasses and all Japanese are healthy? No. But it’s still an indicator. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:48 PM
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I think this is one of those things that need to get eroded away over time. Like when women first started working full time men balked at equal chores/child rearing even if the women worked the same number of hours. That slowly changed over time. But it happened slowly with couples even resorting to divorce if enough resentment accumulates or women putting their foot down in the early stages of dating so men know at least a certain number of women won’t tolerate that behavior. Overtime more peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:42 AM
1

Are you saying there are many women who are in chad’s harems? If most women are taken then isn’t there a man for every one of them? I get the afbb and maybe some guys don’t get the easy sex or the desire but if ltrs are included there likely is a guy that’s also taken for every girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:02 AM
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I have a feeling a lot of people here who complain are a biased sample. I see a lot of couples out there in real life where the guy is more or less with his looks match. When you see middle aged couples or even younger ones out at the grocery store or parents at school /park I see very varied levels of attractiveness. I do know some guys and girls in real life who aren’t paired and yes, for the most part they aren’t attractive and maybe even down right unattractive (often due to weight) and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:58 AM
1

Want him as a companion yes, sexually, just tolerate and an outlet. She says they can talk for hours and are great friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:47 PM
1

Yup. Pretty much. But she wants him as a bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:26 PM
0

So you’re saying men should treat other men like crap? Then it’s not supposedly feminism beating you down. You all are doing a fine enough job doing it to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:25 PM
1

I think so. I mean maybe not all but I feel like we’re more likely than straight girls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:23 PM
1

He was 30, I was 33
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:17 AM
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Yes the minimum bar has to be met and it’s definitely low ish. My friend put it the best and most blunt. “He’s a great guy and I love his personality and the thought of kissing him doesn’t make me want to throw up” So that’s basically the minimum threshold. It’s rule 2 of don’t be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:48 PM
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I think the issue stems from guts not being forward with their intentions. If you just met and you find her attractive and you ask her out on a date and she says no, you both move on, no big deal. The issue stems when the guy tries to be friends with her knowing he wants more. It won’t be a balanced friendship and he’s secretly pining for her and she thinks they’re forming a friendship. Now obviously feelings can grow over time. So I can see a situation where the guy had no interest but he grew …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:21 PM
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I would say wait until your goal weight to really jump into the dating pool. And in the end people are free to be as picky or not picky as they like and see how they do. But if you’re not getting any bites maybe you can lower your standards. Or not. There are definitely some standards where being alone is better. But your odds will definitely increase if you can wait that 6 months but there’s no reason not to pursue it. Especially if you make it clear you intend to lose weight. There are some wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:20 PM
2

I would say I’m ok with guys who are taller than me. I wish I could say I don’t mind dating a guy shorter than me but at 5’0” I would find it a little off putting. I might consider it if he was awesome and very physically attractive with a good face. But yeah a guy shorter than 5’0” isn’t that common so I’ve never been faced with a situation so in reality I have no idea if it’s something i can get over if the guy was attractive enough or if I wouldn’t mind at all or if it’s a no go no matter how…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:15 AM
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That’s why I feel like equality is the answer but is that men should be nicer to each other. A lot of the complaints /issues men do face is because our society often fails at creating brotherhood type support structures for men at the same rate women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:32 PM
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Why can’t men be nice to other men? I feel like men would be happier if they treated each other with kindness. I think men should treat women the same but they would do better to treat each other with kindness as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:30 PM
1

I think it’s between the two couples. Aside from the obvious it’s what dynamic two people are comfortable with /enjoy. I personally like seeing my guy be checked out. He enjoys others checking me out too. We don’t feel threatened by it. We are poly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:24 PM
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I think there needs to be a minimum level attraction. As one of my friends said bluntly “the thought of kissing him doesn’t make me want to throw up” when I asked about what she thought about her date. She kept going out with him because he genuinely is a fun caring guy and I liked him as a person but he was slightly below average in physical attractiveness. He could be attractive if he lost like 40lbs or so. He’s not unattractive is the nicest way or putting it. But anyways, if you’re not down …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:25 PM
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My husband is the cook and the “nag” when it comes to domestic things. He’s definitely more on the feminine side of the spectrum compared to most men and I’m definitely more on the masculine side. We don’t divide things up along gender role but more on what we’re good at. My husband has success with bi girls mostly. We were chatting and we were like heh almost all the girls you dated were bi. So maybe femme guys can try to go after bi girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:08 AM
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Be your best self. Do what you enjoy and get good at it even if it’s dumb. Pursue higher education if that makes you happy. Pursue a trade job if you’d rather work with your hands. But don’t just stay in a dead end McJob. If your career pays enough for you to support yourself and be happy then f everyone else. Same for hobbies and friends. Be your best self for grooming/fashion. You don’t have to follow any kind of trend or craft a style out of a magazine. In fact simple and casual can be sexy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:08 PM
2

That sucks. I have a friend with md. How bad is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:03 PM
2

Isn’t all Batman kind of dark except maybe Adam west?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:12 AM
1

I don’t think it’s that literal. I’m not looking for my dad’s hobbies or interests or mannerism in a partner. But I am looking for the stable person who can hold a job and is committed to raising that kid that he was. I also see some old school “that’s a woman’s job” values from his era that wasn’t fair to my mom who was also working that I will most certainly select against. So I think it’s not quite your type but more your values that you look for for better or worse. That’s why the cycle of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:07 AM
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When women initiate more divorce it’s often because the guy is happy to let a crappy relationship ride it out. If he cheats and she divorces him guess who “initialed divorce”? Citing that women initiate 70% of divorce as evidence that they’re picky is dubious at best. Sure it could be that she’s serving the poor sap who had no idea and blind siding him but she could be also the one who was being wronged. Think about all the reasons like abuse/cheating/drugs that isn’t a “our personalities no lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:00 AM
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The edit button is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:50 AM
2

Tell me how old you are without saying how old you are A/s/L? 13/F/NY
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:48 AM
1

What’s her channel on? Maybe it’s interesting in some circles? I like some let’s plays like platformers I suck at so I have to watch vicariously
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:24 AM
1

In the end you’re the one that feels what they feel but you’re not freedom fighter rebel that you think you are if you’re not looking at what others think. If you’re a critical thinker you do observe what people think and why. If you’re like a kid you go I’m 14 and this is deep or more like “ohh everyone misunderstands you but I can change him” etc. So it’s good to at least think about and then reject or accept it. For example if you’re surrounded by a racist community and they don’t like your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:03 PM
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I wonder if the puritan origins/Christian influence is what affects the American view on N count. I know conservative cultures who are leaning toward women being her father’s then her husband’s also focuses on it as well. But maybe other places don’t care as much?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:10 AM
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I would say a. I want my guy to have options and decide I’m the one. Yeah no one is that special and there’s tons of people but you can be special to that person. And if you think that highly of them they’re special to you. So it makes you appreciate each other. Hell even I’m delusional and who I think is my guy A doesn’t actually have options I would rather be under that illusion he does. And no one benefits by telling me actually he’s a B type guy if I’m thinking he’s A.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:34 AM
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With the caveat of every woman is different… I love my husband. We have two kids and a house. I also thought he was super hot and I can honestly say he’s my type and aside from obvious movie stars who are literally paid to be hot and keep up their appearance he’s one of the cutest guys out I met in the wild. I also really liked his personality and thought there could be something worth exploring there. I pretty much slept with him right away because here’s my logic. A: I think he’s hot and even …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:23 AM
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But who are they getting it with? Assuming they’re not becoming harems for the top 20 won’t every woman that’s partnered = a man that’s also partnered?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:20 PM
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Yeah my husband is cleaner/more domestic than me but I’m the social planner. All the big events and parties we go to is planned by me and he actually enjoys them but he said he’d have no get togethers with friends or have made connections without me. I’m mystified that it’s so hard ask for a number and call someone up to see if they want to come over for a board game night and he’s mystified that I can’t run a vacuum. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:41 AM
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Have you heard of the three blind men roughing an elephant? One says it’s smooth and large like a wall, another says it’s long and twisty and another says it’s firm like tree trunks. Listen to the various observations from men women attractive unattractive single taken etc and then you can try to piece together the big picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:37 AM
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I don’t have a preference either way as long as it’s not something that could end up on awful tattoos. (Like the guy with the naked women strategically placed on his belly button) I would like it if he had thought behind then instead of a Chinese character whose meaning he got from the tattoo book.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:58 PM
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Don’t forget child rearing. Let he whose mom didn’t change his diapers claim men don’t need women. And yes I know plenty of guys who do their fair share, including my husband who doesn’t more I think lol, but notice how they get kudos for doing their fair share while women are considered lucky for landing such a helpful guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:53 PM
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I think that’s the big disconnect. Men are incel and their female counterparts are for the most part, volcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:32 PM
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How old were you guys when you got together? There’s a big difference between 18 and 35 vs 30 and 47.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:16 PM
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We moved in before he did and we prorated the rent. I was paying $1100 and had paying $600. I’m not sure if we would have chosen to have kids but we would stay together. But we were both on the fence with kids. We wanted it but only if we were stable enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:31 PM
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I don’t care about my man’s income as long as he’s working or trying. When I first got with my husband he was working a crap retail job but he was hard working and smart. Now he makes almost a much as me because he found a better job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:18 PM
1

I actually don’t get hit on much. Most of my relationships/hookups met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:08 PM
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Well yeah that’s what the men hee haw over the “over educated” women all the time. That them going to college and getting high paying jobs is shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to dating. I do a knowledge that some aspects need to be adjusted. If women are demanding equal pay then in an supposed ideal world 50% of relationships would have the women making more money right? But yeah, when you use yourself as the benchmark then as you improve, your dating pool shrinks. That’s nothing gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:38 AM
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Can you join groups where you actually enjoy the hobby? Not just pretend to meet women? That way you actually have something common for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:23 PM
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There’s a difference between man the animal and supposedly modern man. Man the animal killed, were fiercely tribal and I’m sure consent wasn’t exactly emphasized. Saying we have some ingrained behavior isn’t the same as saying we’re stuck acting like animals. Now we can debate the pros and cons of “hoing around” is for modern man but we are not wired for it. Whether or not we are better off suppressing those instincts is a separate debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:11 PM
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Human the man isn’t wired for monogamy nor wired to be close to more than a community of 150-250. Our mating habits were likely fierce egalitarianism and mating probably happened kind of orgy style. They have whole studies on how many partners primates have based on testicle size and ours are some where between chimps and gorillas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:01 AM
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I think it fits under some social research and there’s probably some need for it but no where near as more practical stuff that leads to careers and not just research. The funding should be allocated proportionately and people who want to study it but aren’t the top can feel free to pay for it out of pocket. There are too many people who go to college and then end up as managers at star bucks. I’m actually for reading books on the subject and joining a book club/having discussions etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:25 PM
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Is the 4 to 1 even with people having had more kids? Or more like there was 4 loving people involved? Like mom dad grandpa and grandma to all 4 siblings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:22 PM
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What do you mean the government pays for them? Like free college type thing? I’m actually all for government scholarships for high needs fields. It helps society and the graduate pretty much guarantees themselves a job after graduating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:58 PM
1

A relationship doesn’t have to last forever to have been a good thing. It often hurts when you outgrow it or if one party is ready to move on while the other isn’t. But if you can both see it and move on gracefully it doesn’t have to be deemed a failure because it didn’t last until death do us part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:17 PM
1

Well would you rather be alone or with someone that hits you? If you’re happier alone than with someone that hits you then it’s not too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:58 PM
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Enough to see a trend but you can’t compromise your standards so low that you’re happier alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:31 PM
1

After college the huge social circle becomes smaller groups of friends. Ideally you can be flexible and hit all avenues. I would say it depends on what you’re prioritizing. Online lets you filter things listed on their profile if you’re looking for something more specific. Bar is a crap shoot where you do get body language and all that. The best of both worlds is meeting at an activity where you have similar values to spring board off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:38 PM
1

Yeah. Maybe it’s like maid service
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:33 PM
2

Weird for cleaning but I can see why there’s prejudice against men as caretakers. It’s not right but I see where it can stem from but the cleaner is a mystery. Here in the states there’s plenty of male custodian/janitors. In fact the stereotypical janitor is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:44 PM
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It depends on where. An approach can technically be a cold approach in that you don’t know them and you’re just going up to them but still kind of warm if you’re at a social event like a convention or a concert etc. I guess they eliminates the know nothing about as in you know they might also like the same band or like sci-fi/anime etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:34 PM
0

Have you tried shooting your shot with him girls ? My husband is much more femme and domestic than the average guy. He’s definitely taken on the more traditional role of home maker in our house and he’s the one that nags me about chores. When we were in the earlier stages he had a revelation that most of his exes were bi lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:15 AM
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Because you be quite honest gender studies aren’t practical or really directly useful to society. I’m for getting male candidates into nursing and education through. Especially early elementary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:04 AM
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In fact men love to cry affirmative action never helps me but nursing is one of the few where being male can give you an edge. There’s definitely challenges to being the minority gender in any field but just being a male candidate can give you an edge in nursing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:02 AM
0

How old are you? I’m late 30s and I remember running around the street playing with the neighborhood kids and riding my bike in the back roads up to a couple of miles away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:13 AM
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I mean I guess they deserve each other? If you’re into that you can definitely get a d/s kinky relationship though where you can agree what the expectations are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:09 AM
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I agree that if there was some contract that two people sign before sex that agrees to certain terms such as if it results in a pregnancy both agree to terminate or if the woman decides to keep it the man is considered a sperm donor etc. I also agree if the two also sign where they agree they are intending to keep the baby and the women is essentially agreeing to be a surrogate if the man is adamantly pro life with clauses for health etc (I’m not sure how exactly surrogacy laws work. I know you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:07 PM
0

The top men can have their pick. The pecking order is hot men > women > not so hot men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:10 AM
2

Ohhhh lol. I thought it was some new art craze. With NFT and EBM floating around I don’t think I’m taking crazy pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:01 AM
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I agree with you on the long term thing but I have to say that when it comes to casual not looking for a settle down move in have kids level it’s ok to emphasize looks more. Not all dating has to be with the internet of long term, move in, merging finances level. So while agree with you that when it comes to long term dating looks aren’t as important I would argue not everyone is looking for that. In fact I think most people would agree with me. People, often men, cry beta buxx etc but I mean is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:59 AM
2

What’s esl in art? I actually googled it and just got English as a second language art class resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:43 AM
2

There are many different types of love even with in the supposed world Shakespeare/rom coms/Hollywood etc. There’s the crush where it’s mostly lust where you don’t even know the person but you’re projecting who they could be or who you hope they’ll become. There’s also the one where you’ve been together forever and you know everything about them and you love them for it as well. There’s also in between the two where it’s some hope and projection and pining and some deep nurturing and adoration o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:22 PM
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I actually agree that two people can make a contract that if they were to get pregnant they would either abort or be absolved of financial responsibility. Right now a woman can claim that’s what she’d do and lie or change her mind. But I feel like this would need to be signed and notarized before they have sex to be valid. If a guy wanted her to be a surrogate/carrier of his child that can also be part of the contract as well. As with any good contract there should be clauses such as mothers hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:15 PM
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aside from signs of fertility and health, markers of wealth for that society is what’s considered attractive. The flip side is also true, anything shows signs of not being fertile or healthy or markers of being poor are also unattractive. As for trends, I’m not sure who exactly sets them but if the person had enough disposable income to buy the latest thing it signals some financial ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:05 PM
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I think the whole women have to be given orgasms is sexist. Women can be active and take pleasure in sex and it shouldn’t be the norm that men are the ones in control of it. But that attitude is prevalent in both men and women which does result in that kind of meh experience for many women. I think it’s societal conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:00 PM
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I’m pregnant but before the pregnancy I was pretty fit. Did pole and could climb to and do inversion and the pole head stand. I guess in normal people terms I could do like 10 chin ups and 3-4 pull ups. I could bench 65-75 at 120lbs which isn’t terrible. I usually dead lifted 135 but I maxed at 200 one time because the guys at gym were go for it and even slipped the little 2.5s on there to hit that 200 lol. But yeah pregnancy does a number on you but I am going to try and gain back my fitness le…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:57 PM
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Yes but we aren’t talking yes vs no. We’re taking just how big is that drive. Which gender do you think is more likely to turn to barn yard animals because they’re so horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:42 AM
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Just look at gay male bath houses vs lesbians. Where are they female bath houses?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:18 PM
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I don’t think that’s a male/gay thing. How many kids of rich parents were raised by their nannies?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:13 AM
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I think the only ones that really count as regular chores are mowing the lawn and taking out the trash? And if you don’t live in a single home you don’t do most of that. If you’re in an apartment the only thing there that you do is trash. Everything else is either not applicable or the super’s job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:05 AM
2

It’s not that much. One Vice principal at my school is very attractive and people note it but otherwise she’s treated like anyone else. She literally modeled and all that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:11 PM
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Either they agree to live in the lower salary person’s means or they pay proportionately. Or just don’t date a person who makes less than you if you’re concerned or don’t date with the intent to merge finances. When my husband was making crap retail 24k a year and I was making 60k he paid like $600 rent and I paid $1000 plus other expenses. But I didn’t mind especially since he helped with the house chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:37 PM
1

In a partnership you usually work backwards of free time. So if the partners both have x hours to themselves at the end of the week it’s fair. If they both have x dollars of fun money that’s fair. Not to say you have to nickel and dime it. But if the woman has less hours or less commute then that should be factored but the same for reverse. If the woman is a nurse with long hours and the guy is work from home coding he should pick up the slack. If the guy is a trucker and on the road and the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:28 PM
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The only issue is you might be setting yourself up for double heart break if it doesn’t work out long term. It’s a risk for all relationships but if you come to love her kids it’s even worse. You have zero visitation rights to those kids unless you manage to legally adopt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:56 AM
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How does it hurt the group as a whole? Because women become “alpha widowed?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:54 AM
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Yeah I think men hear the horror stories with out the details and assume the worst. If a guy was going “hey baby want to come with me for a good time?” at women at a bus stop and she’s like there was this weirdo hitting on everyone and she tells the story because it was weird and creepy. No one ever tells the story of Bob from accounting asking if they wanted to get drinks or dinner after work some time and her going oh I’m sorry I don’t date coworkers. Especially if he bowed out gracefully and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:52 AM
1

True it becomes habit after a while especially if they get used to it at an early age. Pretty privilege exists even before it’s sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:32 PM
2

It’s also what people can get away with vs what they wish they could. The pretty mean people realize people are more willing to put up with their bs. Ugly people learn they can’t get away with it as much. So I don’t think it’s ingrained behavior. It’s more of people get away with what they can
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:15 PM
1

Do you have any friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:57 PM
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I would accept that complaint as valid if a guy had female friends that he’s got a good platonic relationship with. But when they complain about “the friend zone” as if true friendship isn’t something they’re interested with with a girl that’s when they can go back and reflect on whether they actually see women as people or just a means to sex. I would understand if he had friends both female and male and he just can’t find someone with that spark. But if he doesn’t have any female friends I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:43 PM
2

This. The high body count likely makes him less attractive if anything but nog enough to offset why he has a high body count to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:16 PM
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I tried experimenting with a guy who wasn’t my type because we had great conversations and he was smart and fun etc. It was fine in the honeymoon phase when conversation was great and everyone was on best behavior. But as with all relationships no one is at their wittiest and most charming and the issue is when the attraction is boosted by that to the “will date” threshold via engaging conversation to compensate for the lack of looks it starts losing its appeal quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:50 PM
2

I mean everything in moderation. Someone who’s a total health nut where it interferes with everyday activities (I can go to the wedding because I’ll miss a workout) is too much but working out regularly in their routine is ok. The deal breaker would be him starting to enforce that life style on me and being demanding. Subtlety pushing healthy choices is ok though lol. “I’m making salad for dinner, should I make some for you too?” Is ok. “You’re not eating pasta, I made us salad” is not. The othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:32 AM
1

The rating scale distribution is vey different based on whether your dividing ur by percentile of rubric (as much as you can quantify something subjective as looks) Obviously if we are breaking it into percentiles, you get 10 even sized groups and 1-10 rating means you’re roughly in the percentile of attractiveness. In this model everyone could become a healthy weight over night and there’ll still be the same number of 1-10s. (Rankings May shuffle based on who’s fat but cute vs a butter face) Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:27 AM
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Any kind of convention (anime, gaming general geekdom) is a good place to be social. You can definitely cold approach folks both men and women to start conversations and try to befriend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:17 AM
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Might I suggest gaming cons, anime cons, kick evebts, larp, ren faire to nerdy folks as a scene to meet people? I met my husband recruiting players for dnd. We bonded playing even online for a few months before we met irl and he’s now got a little ma cave painting war-hammer minis and his “boys nights” is playing war hammer 40l. He was a scrawny guy that’s starting for a little sad bid now that we’re parents but he’s working on it. I definitely prefer scrawny over fat for sure. And way I agree w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:13 AM
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Same thing as guys pigeon holing girls into the fuck zone. There are girls guys are willing willing to sleep with who they would never bring home to mom or even meet their friends or go official on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:11 PM
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Men “pay” more because they split marital assets that was gained evenly. If women made more money i don’t think they’d make the man pay. I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know how inheritance etc works but if the woman was a house wife she is equally entitled to get half the bank earning but same if the man was the househusband. If you don’t like that then make sure you marry someone who intends to keep working and don’t agree to be the sole breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:49 AM
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This forum is mostly about talking about macro level phenomena (so saying men might be generalizing to all men/majority of the men) but if you want to make a post about your subset demographic among men and your particular struggles /struggles of men in the same boat, I would be interested in hearing your point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:17 AM
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Who initiates isn’t necessarily a statistic that reveals anything. If the man cheated and the the woman “initiated divorce” is that the woman’s fault? Now I’m not saying that’s the case every time. But quoting that statistic as if it shows women aren’t loyal/flaky without additional evidence is misleading. Now if you want to rephrase it as 50% of marriages end in divorce why do people even participate in this archaic institution might be fair. But citing the statistic as if it’s the woman’s faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:09 AM
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I think I’ve heard it best that men are looking for drinkable water in a desert and women are looking for drinkable water in a swamp. Both have their challenges and it’s hard for sides to see the issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:46 PM
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It depends in the man’s security level. My husband is pretty secure so he doesn’t care and him and my ex were social friends. Like they hangout in group settings with no awkwardness. I actively wingmanned for my guy to hook up with a friend who I’m still close with but now has a monogamous bf. It’s not a free for all as I expressed reservations with people I felt were full of drama /issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:34 PM
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I would be interested in details of the cascading effect. Would you make a separate post on it? I wouldn’t expect you to put all the effort into a comment nested several threads deep but I feel like it would generate conversation and discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:05 PM
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So what exactly is the harm? You’re saying oh people are selfish and are causing harm but what tangible harm to real people do you see? We’re talking real effects on people and not some institution like “tradition” or “family values”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:49 PM
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sometimes you do lose interest but when you officially try to cut contact guys can become extremely aggressive and insulting. I know it’s definitely not all guys but fizzling out instead of a clean cut is safer in terms of confrontation. If women could be guaranteed a “thanks for letting me know. Good luck to you too” after saying “hey I feel like there isn’t much chemistry. Good luck meeting someone” or “hey I’ve decided to become more serious with someone so I’m cutting contact with all the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:09 PM
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I think op is looking at all people while on tinder you can choose to only swipe on a certain age group?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:03 PM
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I think chad can get it up for Beckies and that’s good enough. He finds them attractive enough and when it’s time to settle down and wife up someone he can have his pick of the litter. When he wants a life partner he’s going to place more value on job, personality, emotional stability etc. he would want the best looking woman that offers that but he’d take a sweet stable financially responsible 7 over a hot mess 9 if he can’t find a nice 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:00 PM
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I’m not sure exactly how much of a transformation a guy would go under but I’ll be happy to see it. I don’t think it’ll go from a 4 to a 9 though. Maybe two steps up as make up can accentuate and flatter parts that are good and cover blemishes and flaws. I wouldn’t mind as long as it’s not the outlier case where it was that dramatic. If my man wants to give himself a little boost on the night out I’d appreciate the effort he took similar to wearing a nice outfit. Doesn’t mean I’ll get mad if he …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:56 PM
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Quickly on the surface, I think it’s a knee jerk reaction to I don’t want my tax dollars going towards chad’s baby mamas. A control group of child free couples who are paired up vs single might be interesting too because people with kids might be more inclined to be invested in the future that they might never see. But this study seems too small and too limited to make any sweeping conclusion but does make good discussion fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:54 PM
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So it basically becomes collectivism vs individualism you think when it comes to blue pill vs red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:48 PM
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So what would that be? There’s a difference between taking and not giving as well. What obligations do people have?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:55 PM
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When you make a big sweeping argument like everyone needs to follow one rule that’s when anyone else can also make the same sweeping claim about their side. It’s a mind your own business unless it’s your own personal life. And in a practical way what can you even do to try and enforce your views on people? All you can do is live your life and do the best you can with the hand you’re dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:47 PM
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I think the problem is when they try to generalize to everyone. If a man personally doesn’t want a high body count woman for whatever personal reason he’s free to not pursue them and women shouldn’t lie to him about it because it takes his choice away. But women are also free to say it’s great when the trash takes itself out and we don’t want to date a man who judges for that. Same for age. The issue with declaring what women respond to is that it is vastly different based on age and demographic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:00 PM
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Yeah. It’s one of those things where you have to play the game. If you want the “correct” outcome of 50/50 you need a good lawyer to how best to achieve that result. But honestly if someone is seeking to alienate the other parent to be spiteful then I would start doubting that parent’s ability to be a good parent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:46 PM
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So what’s an example of a statement where you thinks it’s just a neutral observation or just an observation from a male gaze without any negative insults that might get misconstrued?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:25 PM
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Oh that’s fair. If there father is fighting for 50/50 and the mother is fighting for full the compromise might be weekends. I wonder if the father also fought for full it’ll “compromise” to 50/50. At this points it’s all navigating your particular legal system. I guess that’s why you hire a good lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:23 PM
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He does a pretty good job of weeding out women online. I’m not sure what you mean by “rejection”. Is it not getting swiped on? Because that’s mostly the passive rejection men face. No interest vs eewww get away from me. My husband has tinder and fet and he has chats with women but he doesn’t get crazy matches like women. He also likes to chat with people and get to know them online first too. He’s made some friends and met some romantic partners that way too. If he’s at the point of meeting some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:13 PM
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How so? If he’s acting like a jack ass no and if he’s discussing things civilly yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:06 PM
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I know friends irl who have amicable split custody. The people here might be over representative of people who had problems and people who didn’t are busy with their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:59 AM
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Not really. My husband does pretty well lol. I think we both had about 4 partners? Right now he has one and I’m not really looking. I can confirm that only about 20% of the guys are attractive to me based on looks for a short term thing or a fling. And I can be picky about them being cool enough for an evening of conversation. I don’t have to worry about long term compatibility though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:50 AM
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It’s not their interest that makes it a turn off. It’s the fact that they did something just to attract them. Think like a guy who started learning guitar. It’s fine is if he’s now in his 20s and is pretty good and laughs that he started learning to try and get girls in his teens or something but now is a genuine hobby. But if he just started in his 20s because he thinks it’ll get him girls that’s kind of cringe. If a guy really wants to try yoga because he wants core strength and flexibility an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:46 AM
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I haven’t actually seen high n count guys demand low n count women. I’ve mostly seen low n count men complain that the the women they’re dating has a high n count and it makes them feel insecure or that they’re angry that the girl they’re dating had a wild past. High n count guys also just settle down and say they got it out their system during their crazy bachelor days. The guys that never got to experience that are the ones who are mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:33 AM
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You could argue todays woman care less than the foremothers but do they care less than the men won’t even get involved to have to cope?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:30 AM
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This. The dads don’t ask for 50/50 but if they fight for it they usually get it barring other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:29 AM
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I don’t think it should be limited to just lifting though. Doing anything for fun and yourself will be attractive and doing anything because you think it’ll attract women but you don’t have a real interest would make you look desperate and unattractive. Objectively physical health is a monkey brain factor to attractiveness but the stuff you propose isn’t the silver bullet if you’re miserable following that diet or lifting. It needs to be more general like go and truly enjoy life and people (incl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:28 AM
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But how many men get that many partners? If a “chad” is able to get tons of women he’s going to be hesitant to settle with one. The guy who has trouble and finally managed to get one girl interested is going to be much more interested in locking her down even if the chemical bonding phenomena didn’t exist. I do agree that women hoping to get a relationship by inserting sex tokens into a guy is playing a losing game though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:19 AM
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With stds you know who you are sleeping with assuming it’s consensual. You hope you can trust them to not have any stds and they’re truthful about their status. Same with restaurants you hope their staff have ethics and wash their hands and keep their utensils up to snuff. With masking it’s because you can transit it by air unlike the other pathogens. You also can’t screen people out of grocery stores too. You can’t just screen people. The greeter can’t tell you mostly stay home so you’re ok. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:13 AM
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I think the big difference is people rallying under that label vs just going their own way. It’s like that old joke, this isn’t the airport you don’t have to announce your departure. I don’t think people have issues with men not dating except maybe their moms asking for grand kids or whatever. But when you declare it, it is inherently antagonistic. It’s like leaving a sub. No one will notice clicking leave sub but if you post I’m leaving people will jump on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:20 PM
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It believe it can work if two people independently come to the conclusion that poly is for them and enter a relationship leading with that. I am in a poly marriage and we’ve been together 8, married 4, parents 2. But I do agree that opening up a previously monogamous relationship is disastrous. We see them looking for threesomes or trying to date in the established poly community and we are always king of cautious with avoiding drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:10 PM
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After you’re out of school maintaining friends is work. You can find a social club that meets regularly or foster a group of friends but the era of everyone living close to you in school in your town/dorms is over. The circle of friends/activities and networks is a better place to find relationships. I met my husband through dnd groups and finding gaming people. You can find people online but it’s a different pressure than dating online.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:58 PM
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I don’t think it’s fertility. I thinks it’s media of the era. 1960s had frank sinatra and Elvis. We have k pop and boy bands. Who seem more masculine to you? We could argue chicken/egg but who the media glamorize definitely affect tastes and perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:17 PM
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Isn’t alimony determined by need regardless of gender? Like if the woman made more money and the guy was stay home wouldn’t he get alimony? And isn’t marital assets split after what they gained after they got married? But if they both have comparable jobs and made roughly the same amount then won’t the split be super equal? I think the child custody might favor the mom but it usually favors the one who is thf established carer. I don’t know much about divorce laws but it seems like the biggest p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:12 PM
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But how do you calibrate what exactly your attractiveness level is? You start getting some idea in your teen years and then college. Some of it is by looking at media but others is by looking at who you can get. I get that with hindsight you can tell a girl look that hot guy is sleeping with 5 other girls and eventually he’s going to settle with not you. But how would she know that as a younger 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:54 PM
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Fair mug shots are the least flattering. But he has full hair that can be improved with a more flattering cut. He can even keep it king but just trim the ends. He’s got a defined chin with a symmetrical face. While this guy’s issue isn’t his face, you’re right that for some it is. There are some where their looks are really the issue but they have to have be actively unattractive for it to be an issue. Most people are unremarkable based on looks. There are few that out in both directions. The av…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:39 PM
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Heh yeah. He kind of looks like a wider Paul Rudd. He’s not like omg super attractive but he’s not like eeew ugly. He’s average at worst and kinda cute if he’s your type. This is just one case but there’s enough that you’re seeing confirmation that these incels have some mental illness social issues and are just blaming their looks because it’s more immutable and they don’t have to be help responsible for self improvement/therapy. Elliott Rodgers is another example where while he’s definitely no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:46 AM
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I’m going to assume you’re not a troll but regardless of gender no one should’ve criminalized for who they are. It’s what they do. Otherwise it’ll delve into minority report type situations where people are guilty before they do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:19 AM
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What kind of things would they do for them but wouldn’t be attractive for women? Lol I was impressed when my husband had a Titan in eve online. Not because it’s so expensive or whatever but because he was clearly passionate and told me how much work it was to get it and maintain it and keep it safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:26 AM
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I don’t use sex as a means to an end but as a fun thing to do as an in of itself. As a result I only really sleep with guys who are physically attractive. I don’t actively try to keep a low body count but there just aren’t that many guys I find that attractive so that’s why it’s not as high as it could be. If the world was my oyster and it was filled with hot guys who also wanted me i wouldn’t have some need to keep it artificially low by surprising my desires. As for vetting I guess some combin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:32 AM
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I’m for criminal registries like sex offender registries. Depending on exactly how it gets used I’m for creating domestic violence offender registries as well if they’re fully convicted and then released. They have a good chance of reoffending if they’re the type to get violent to begin with. There’s no need to bring a diagnosis to it. Just the crime and when it happened similar to the sex offender registries. Those who harm others should be warned against regardless of diagnosis and those who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:18 AM
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This. In fact I’m much more interested in debating as arm chair sociologists as opposed to everyone just dishing out anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:57 PM
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It depends on the guy. There’s some that I’m immediate attracted to with an ohhhh my that i will actively pursue. These guys just have to not be jerks. They can still turn me off if they suck and not worth potential drama. then there’s some that’s kinda cute where if it’s convenient or opportunity I might pursue something but I wouldn’t necessarily change plans or go out of my way to pursue him. If he pursues me then I might if he’s fun to hang out with too. At that point I might become more inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:44 PM
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That is fair. Skin care alone is big. Sun screen and moisturize by most women vs most men not doing it will make a difference. Rubric based attractiveness can go up or down
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:29 PM
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Hmm. Fair. There’s a reason my friend was whining I might be straight skinny but I’m gay fat. Maybe men are just much more visual. If you look at gay men vs lesbians and their aesthetic you can see what they’e doing to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:28 PM
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I think women are just better looking than men. I’m bi and if I’m just looking at pictures women are definitely better looking as a human than most men. I think men find more women attractive based purely on looks while women find less men attractive purely on looks. They’re equally shallow in terms of basing how good looking someone is but it happens that more women fit the criteria for being good looking than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:59 PM
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Unfortunately men have lower life expectancy. There’s a lot of factors but definitely makes and impactful societal difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:57 PM
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Lol I hear nursing home guys are killing it seeing how the life expectancy of males is lower than females at least in the current day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:47 PM
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I mean if it’s working it’s working. How is he radicalized if he’s not raping them or coercing them? If he’s charming them I hardly call that radicalized. I feel like radicalized red pill guys are the ones that start actually promoting abuse /violence or exhibiting anti social behavior. The teenager that starts being nasty to his sister and female students in his class and starts complaining about them to his male classmates? The coworker who starts saying “I refuse to work with women because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:23 PM
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Because physical capacity or literally height in reaching for something can be easily gauged. But unless you have a good in depth knowledge of someone’s abilities intellectual capability isn’t as obvious on the surface especially if they didn’t ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:15 PM
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Yeah nice interactions make you go what a helpful person! But if you’re treated rudely for no apparent action on your part you wonder if it’s because you’re x. I brought my students on a field trip and took them to a big food court area. They behaved well enough for teenagers. They were chatty and giggley but they weren’t overly loud and they were not running around. They were definitely spending too much money on junk food/candy too so it’s not like we were taking up seats for free either. In f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:12 PM
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Have you considered being nice to men as well? When people are nice to me I don’t think it’s because I’m a woman. I just think they’re nice period. I guess if I see them in multiple settings and there’s a jarring difference between how nice they are to men can women I might be like hmmm maybe he’s just desperate. But I don’t think I observe enough people in general to see enough of a sample size to see if they’re treating men vs women differently. Like if John treats Carla nicely but not Matt I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:04 PM
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This is again the confusion between percentile based rating and “objective” based ratings. Percentile is simple enough, break down the population based on relative attractiveness. This will break down in to 10 equally sized chunks of 1-10 and a 6 rated man would be at the 60% tile of attractiveness and would a 6 rated women. In this example if the entire population suddenly became a healthy weight the overall score won’t go up or down. The pecking order might shift but the 10 equal percent block…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 12:17 PM
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I don’t necessarily disagree with the behavior you’re observing but I think the reasoning/focus is a little off. Obviously women on average are physically more vulnerable than men. But that’s there for all interactions with men regardless of how handsome or not he is. I think it’s more a matter of why not shoot your shot with the most attractive (factoring looks, money, personality )guy you can get? As much as we say there’s a scale of attractiveness we don’t have an attractiveness fico score st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:59 AM
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Yeah that’s actually one kind of murder where women are more likely to kill than men. It’s probably because women are more in charge of childcare and have more opportunities/think they own their kids. Men still beat women in every other category of murder though like killing a lover, random serial killer, killing some one you have beef with etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:51 PM
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The female equivalent to the scenario you described would be sleeping with her and dumping her when she gets too serious. That sucks for the girl but no one would call that abuse. At worst maybe people would be like he lead her on. That is not the domestic violence we are talking about. We are talking about men who get beaten and are afraid to fight back or even call the cops because he’d likely be the one that gets arrested even if he doesn’t touch her. We are talking about men whose partner is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:52 PM
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There might be some who cry abuse but they are being drowned out by guys complaining that women sleep with chads in their youth when they’re mostly looking for sex without commitment and then start crying they they’re just beta bucks. I’m sure there are men who have been hit and told that they call the police or even physically retrain the girl to keep them from getting hit she will tell the police he hit her first and get cowed into silence. I’m sure there’s guys there who were reproductively c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:36 PM
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This just confirms that view that in the dating economy there is more supply than demand for male sexuality and more demand than supply for female sexuality. We could also try to see if there’s a supply vs demand inequality in commitment but the supply of men looking for commitment is less than the number of men looking for sex that even if there are an equal number of men looking for commitment they get drowned out by the number of men looking for just sex. If there 100 women and 100 men both l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:19 PM
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That sucks. I hope your story and insights help others. There’s a lot known about male perps of dv. They give you training etc to spot some and while I’m sure there’s a lot of overlap I’m sure female perps might look slightly different especially from the outside. It’s sad that they don’t focus on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 10:11 AM
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But does that mean you stop? Honestly with the depp case being in such a spot light now is a great time to start some #istandwithjohnny or something and post your own abuse story. I know it’s not easy to talk about it but it’s not going to change unless people start
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:58 AM
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I’m sorry that happened. And sometimes people are drawn into a cycle of abuse because that’s what they know/find familiar. I hope you can find happiness ahead. But if you see it happening again please get out and get help before it escalates. People don’t start off abusive. They test that waters and I’m sure you know how they can escalate gradually until abuse is normalized in your dynamic. Have you talked to a therapist for all you been through?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:55 AM
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Agree. Men need to start speaking up and society needs to start listening. It’s so common that women get away with bad behaviors because they often are physically weaker so they’re not supposed to be a “threat”. I’m fact it’s actually more sexist to say “oh the pretty little lady can’t hurt anyone”. Women are just as capable of being an abusive pos as men are and gender equality needs to go both ways. The reality is that women had to fight for their rights to get equal votes/pay/own property/att…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 05:04 AM
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I would argue it has some reflection sexism in that a man acting as aggressive would have security /police immediately called on them. It’s sexist to think women are more harmless so them yelling isn’t a threat, even if you’re probably correct in assuming if it came to a physical altercation a women wouldn’t do as much harm as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:53 AM
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It’s (usually) white women using female privilege to get her way. If a black man were to act the same way as a typical Karen he would be lead away in handcuffs at best and possibly even be killed at worst. Even white guys would probably get security called on them. Men know their aggression is taken more seriously and that’s a good and a bad thing. Sure it’s misogynistic to not take women as seriously but the flip side they’re less likely to get serious consequences for displaying it. Women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:48 AM
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Aka incels and fds lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:36 AM
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Pretty much came here to say this. No one owes anyone relationships/sex. But at the same time don’t be surprised if you’re alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:28 AM
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I mean what context are we talking? Is she lying on a dating site looking for a casual hook up? In which case she really doesn’t have to because thirsty guys will still hit her up. I guess maybe she could lie to get past the filters so is she’s in her 30 saying she’s 29 or in her 40 saying she’s 39 it might make some sense. But if she’s looking for a ltr most women know that’ll just blow up in their face so unless there’s kinda dumb it hurts them a lot more directly than women kind in general. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:21 AM
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I’m not sure if you’re seeing it exactly from the right angle. Captain America in wholesome AF and I doubt most women would decline sleeping with him. I mean I guess you’re right that they might get slightly taken aback if he made some sexual comment at them but I think most women will get over the initial “oh my!” And be receptive. So I get captain America is fictional so let’s replace him with a sweet, handsome all American Boy Scout type that volunteers and is a doctor to poor kids or somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:12 AM
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Yeah and straight guys are more worried about is this gay?? Than two straight women who might be ok with a threesome with a man as the middle. She’s likely not going to be like omg am I a lesbian now??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:48 PM
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I have no issues. In fact it would be a plus. If he can get another cute bi guy for a threesome that’d be a plus. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:04 PM
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I think there’s less a avenues to pursue it? At least before COVID there was active kink scenes in the nyc area and I’m sure in many of the urban areas that are clustered around the blue state. I also feel like the whole racist taboo fetish that often accompanies cuckold porn probably is a factor. I do think the overall increase in consumption of porn is that there’s less real life outlets in conservative areas both due to less people and the people who are there are less open with exploring the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:03 PM
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It’s both. There are more or less 4 categories with obvious shades of grey. people you find hot that society also finds hot. People you find hot that society does not. People you find unattractive/over rated that society thinks is super hot people you find unattractive that society also agrees is unattractive. There are pros and cons to dating each except maybe the last? The pros of attractive to you and society is the obvious you get to date someone you personally find attractive and you also r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:39 PM
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It sounds like a niche dating/networking idea that might work in certain demographics but I doubt it would revolutionize anything more than say a new dating/networking site. Facebook was inevitable. Now whether it was MySpace or google hangout etc was up for grabs. But a big social network champion was going to come out. Same for OkCupid tinder etc. online dating changed the landscape but the individual sites can compete for users via gimmick/targeting /user interface etc. but this sounds like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:05 PM
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Can you put anything you want in your profile? How is this any different than meeting a person’s friends in a less formal setting? Also if you give someone your referral code does that signal romantic interest or is it for anyone? Like a new contact method.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:24 AM
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Which will definitely affect more poor women. Rich women would be just fine. They can easily travel to a state that’s still free.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:13 AM
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I’m not sure if “intrigued” is exactly the right word but I would definitely be more open to it. Think of it like +2 to charisma if there’s a woman (or even a guy) you know that vouches that you’re cool. Now if a woman or a gay man not only vouches he’s cool but also kind of hints they’re find him hot but can’t/won’t pursue him for other reason (she’s in a relationship/he’s not gay etc) I think that’s a bigger bonus like a +4 charisma bonus lol. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 02:01 AM
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I feel like you’re confusing being attractive on a rubric basis vs being attractive based on a percentile basis. Rubric basis = check mark of conventionally attractive traits that might ultimately factor into whether or not someone will sleep with you. Definitely pretty much the only factor aside from style/fashion on swiping apps. This is usually the 10 = super hot 8 = really good looking 6 = fairly cute 4 = not terrible 2 = rather unfortunate looking 1 = makes small children cry. That’s just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:54 AM
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I feel like you can ask something neutral no need to be clever. If you’re at a private party ask her how it’s going and how she knows the hosts or where she’s coming from. If you’re at a public bar ask if she knows if there’s anything good off the drinks menu. If she likes you she will be receptive. “Oh I know the host from xyz and I drove an hour to be here. How about you? “ or “hmmm well what kind of drinks are you into? Beers? Interesting mixed drinks? “ lol I might even offer to buy you one …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:23 PM
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I feel like women are much more willing and able to be volcel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:28 PM
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Lol I don’t think they even like each other even if they deserve each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:26 PM
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That’s fair. You can see fugly guys who are rich with women who are in it for the money that don’t care and even if they both know what it’s about they both consenting and happy. I do agree that all things being equal women have an edge in the middle when it comes to dating because a higher percentage of men would fancy them. Not on a percentile scale but on a “is she cute? Yes or no?” survey, women would have a higher percentage of yessss than men. I feel like that’s where there’s a distinct di…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:25 PM
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Yeah. The notion that university degrees holders are superior to non degree holders in terms of class/culture needs to change. There are intelligent blue color people in the trades making good money while there are degree holders saddled with debt working at Starbucks. Not downing Starbucks workers and more of usa’s student loans system where they are now paying off the degree with nothing of monetary value to show for it. I loved my experience at my university but I do have a degree that got me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:14 PM
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I think the common misconception is that women aren’t as horny in the scope of a relationship. Both men and women are like oh women are just as horny I can’t keep up with my gf/my bf can’t keep up with me and I’m sure it’s all true. The caveat is men are much more horny enough to hookup with random folks. If you look at how often gay men hook up vs how often lesbians hook up you can see the horny level for sex in general without too much of a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:07 PM
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It depends on what your objectives are. “Dating” is such a vague word. Sure if you want to hook up with tons of new girls constantly I will refer you to boomhauer in the shoe store clip. “Dang ol love??” But depending on what kind of dates you’re looking for, quality, not quantity matters. Cold approaching 100 women at the department store might net your one or two positive responses but cultivating a network of people in any community and scoping out the scene for single girls who might have so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:29 PM
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I actually find dating dynamics interesting and I enjoy theory crafting. Arm chair sociologist /discussing anecdotal observations etc is fun and I like discussing macro dynamics. Individual level stuff unless they’re attempting to figure out where the fit in the big picture isn’t as interesting. But it’s also interesting if people are actually introspecting and figuring out where they fit in the bigger dynamic. I mostly stay in the conversations where people are open to discussion and I keep in …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:01 PM
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Are the dudes guys hitting on them at the bar or Gus being invited by the girls? If your gf is getting friendly that’s one thing but if she’s wing womaning for her single friends and they’re taking pictures that’s another. But if that’s the case she should easily be able to say oh yeah that’s the guy that was hitting on Jenna all night. She gave him her number he still hadn’t texted. Or oh yeah that’s the creeper who wouldn’t leave kelly alone but she was being too nice. I had to shoo him away. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 11:18 AM
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I’m in a poly relationship with my husband for 10 years, married for 5, parents for 3. We are still going pretty strong while I’m pregnant with number 2. I feel like having a good initial foundation of values is important. Make sure you’re not going in with the mind set that anything needs fixing or needs to get better. Like spending habits, level of cleanliness that’s acceptable, values to tech kids etc are all compatible from the get go without one party going “well we can work on that” These …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:41 AM
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If you’re asexual you can either find another asexual person to be in a relationship with or being an open relationship with someone who is free to pursue sex else where if they are a sexual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:34 PM
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Is your theory that there are more mothers than fathers? Ie there are many guys with multiple baby mamas while women have less baby daddies? Because if that’s not the case then women have just as little stake in the future as men. If there’s a lot of post wall cat ladies as people like to purport why would they be and less of more motivated based on offspring ? I would agree that there are less men who actively parent. A dead beat dad who had 5 baby mamas and is running from child support or can…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:24 AM
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I will always refer to boomhauer at the shoe store lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:38 AM
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I agree that based on looks alone I would be willing to sleep with more women than men. I’m a bi woman. Basically the average woman would have to lose points through personality for me to be like oh no she’s not worth it while a guy would have to gain points to catch my interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:35 AM
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Modem day is barely a drop in the bucket of our existence as a species. Our bodies and brain are still wired for cavemen mentality but is set in a weird new setting. Instincts that were once useful are longer as useful for survival
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:34 AM
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It’s attractive man > attractive women > unattractive women > unattractive men. I would argue there isn’t as much advantage to being an attractive women vs not as attractive as long as guys are still willing to sleep with you. From what I’ve seen being “sex zoned” doesn’t necessary mean you’re the lower part of attractiveness. Men often pick other factors besides pure looks when they finally settle. They will cut loose the crazy /unstable 10 for a sweet 6 with a good job that will make a good mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:06 PM
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There’s a difference between wanting to be supported and not wanting to support. But if someone wants to agree to have a stay home parent then that’s two people agreeing to create a family/children together. If that’s what you’re looking for there’s nothing wrong with looking for someone who is willing and able to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:01 PM
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I agree with the initial assessment until you say the same thing doesn’t apply to women. if only 20% of men get what they want then eventually only 20% women will land where they want. That’s why women complain “men just want sex” because even chad eventually wants to settle down with kids and when it’s time for that all the other women get dropped. You might argue that these men are just getting scraps and “left overs” but the women feel similarly. The question is can you be happy enough with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:58 PM
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I agree with the first premise of women are less horny I would argue against the less interested in meeting men for genuine connection and relationships, especially if he’s attractive. I don’t think women are any less desiring of relationships but they have to be more choosey because they have more guys who are offering sex only but not necessarily being direct about it. So if a woman turns down a bunch of guys because she’s only interested in genuine connection and she suspects they just want s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:12 PM
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Yup. Basically. And also no one has to date/have sex with anyone but if your standards are too high/too low you might have negative consequences that you have to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:06 PM
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This. Also if there’s pretense that they are also happy being friends and it is what this dynamic is on the surface then… a: who are you to rock the boat and create drama when there isn’t any apparent B: it also seems very arrogant to assume they’re attracted to you and to shoot them down when it wasn’t even prompted and you can’t be positive they’re attracted to you if they never explicitly stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:24 PM
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Do you actually have a daughter or have interaction with many fathers? Fathers tend to be fiercely protective of their daughters (lol cleaning their gun when their bf comes by trope) and I don’t think he’d want a guy that’s much older banging his little girl especially if he sees that the guy just sees her as a trophy or whatever. You ideally want your son in law to be the son you never had. Maybe fathers I know would be much more skeptical of a much older dude. They’d still be discerning of a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:31 AM
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If you accept the premise that men are more reluctant then two men are less likely to end it then two women. Obviously we can debate the initial premise men are more reluctant. But if we accept it then two men might be even less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:03 PM
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I guess it depends on immutable it is. Somethings are irrational and you can’t get over it and some are rooted in some anxiety/issues that you can get over through talking it out either with friends or a therapist. Here’s a question. What if your n count was 3 and hers was 12? Is it the different or the sheer number that makes you balk? I personally wouldn’t care about the number would care about the context. Was she using drugs and sleeping with random strangers for validation? Or was she in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:17 AM
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I say in terms of pecking order attractive men > attractive women > unattractive women > unattractive men. It seems to me that being the top 20% in women doesn’t seem to be a huge advantage as being the top 20% of men who the women are supposedly throwing themselves at. The top men with option are able to find enough of the female population attractive enough to sleep with. Maybe some are hotter than others but they are attractive enough to be satisfying. At that point they’re able to factor oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:18 AM
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I hear the common trope of guys complaining they get like 2 non-bot matches every month or something. What do you mean by screening hard? Are you personally getting so many matches that you have to screen hard? Because that sounds more like a problem women have more than men where every guy swipes right on them hoping yo get lucky so they can’t even tell if they got a true match or just someone who’d sleep with them if convenient. I know guys sometimes get used for free meals but just do coffee …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:02 AM
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My stance is high status men are much more open to lower status women than the reverse. And the discrepancy is big enough to affect societal dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:59 AM
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There’s a difference between high status socially vs high value as a relationship material. A woman who placed a lot of emphasis on their career and money often turn their noses at men who make less money or are less educated. For example a lawyer man might be open to dating a paralegal women but less women would be open to it if the positions were reversed. So I would argue the fds women are not all low social status economically or educationally. How would you classify a woman who makes a bunc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:55 AM
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I like theory crafting systems and discussing macro trends. Anecdotal stuff in interesting enough as story telling is op is a good writer but I find discussions of big picture much more stimulating. At the end of the day at the individual level no one owes anyone a relationship or sex and people can have as high or low standards but then they have to live with the consequences of those standards. I take it seriously in that I actually think and apply reason and I’m not just here to troll and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:32 AM
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True but staying together for the kids is a terrible idea 99% of the time. Just ask any kid whose parents were miserable and knew they were just staying together for them. It’s worth it to put the leg work in to try to create two happy homes instead of one miserable home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:25 PM
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No can mean not right now if it’s like date #3 and she wants to wait until date #6. But it doesn’t mean try again more aggressively after she turns you down on date #3. People have no social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 02:55 PM
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When I say “at their of level attractiveness ” I mean things that are more immutable such as facial attractiveness, income, maybe even weight if you’re not willing/able to change it. Because you know what those 50 women were into? His chiseled jaw line and his defined abs. I get your point of data but you’re gathering the wrong data. Hey this guy is short and fat and middle class but he’s got a date with a cute girl. I too am short and fat with a decent enough job but not enough to be rich. Wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:48 PM
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But there’s a reason for that. A super hot/rich/famous guy giving you advice is pretty useless. It’s the guy who’s about your level who got the girl. Otherwise they’d be like well you kind of acknowledge them and girls throw themselves at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:32 PM
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Yeah. I’d wager the best person is someone who is similar to you who have what you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:03 PM
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Yeah even without the kids. Especially since she could just leave if she’s that unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:16 AM
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How does nick cannon have so many kids? I get the others but I don’t get his appeal at all. He’s not even that good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:30 PM
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True. I wonder if men spent more time primping and working on their appearance of women would find them more physically appealing. Or maybe they’d look too fussy. But there’s definitely a way to look more appealing without looking like you’re trying too hard. The no make up make up look off men if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:10 PM
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Most guys never even got off the wall. If we take hitting the wall to mean you can no longer use your looks/sex appeal/physical appeal/ to tip your hands to get what you want, most guys could never do that to begin with. while guys get invisible perks for being a guy (think women signing off with a male name/vs female name in an e-mail experiment) it usually doesn’t have much to do with how sexually appealing they are. Women who choose to can definitely “cash in” on their beauty and youth but ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:44 PM
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Yeah this but not as heavy is the old timey I hate my wife humor in the USA. “Take my wife…please” lol. And yes I get it’s a joke and all married couples have some bickering but that trope/genre of comedy is firmly entrenched as an echo of an era where divorce was stigmatized and being married with children wan an expected obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:31 AM
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Sure they can choose that but that’s their choice and if they chose not to they should be respected. Have you talked to or seen parents who only raise their kid out of obligation or with our right resentment? It’s easy to say “get over it” but if they can’t they should be free to walk away without judgement. If they are able to great. I know dads who are afraid the kid will get taken away once paternity is disputed. So they have the opposite fear that they will get their non bio kids ripped away…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:25 PM
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Even when trying to make things as equal as possible biology gets in the way. Women definitely have a high risk of being abandoned and being promised help but getting ditched. You can try to get child support but if he disappears you’re screwed and even if you get the money you can’t force them to parent. On the flip side a man can vet all he wants and use a condom and only try to date girls who are vigilant about birth control and would abort but if they change their minds the guy is at their m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:14 PM
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Then the woman needs to go after the baby daddy for child support. There’s also abortion as an option too. Unwanted is worse than aborted. You just have to look at child abuse cases to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:09 PM
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It’s like boomhauer at the shoe store lol. I love king of the hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:06 PM
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Hmm I think my husband is super handsome and one of the best looking people I’ve met in the wild that’s not a model /musician/famous because of their looks. He’s definitely not ugly by anyones definition but people have said he’s too femme and he said a majority of his exes have been bi girls lol which I am. I do think women have more varied types. I know girls that just die for the bearded hairy bear types and I can stand body hair Urgh. But they love it. And good for them!! More pretty femme l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:05 PM
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I wouldn’t go in on a house without marriage or a contract that’s basically marriage. I know there’s a sentimental view of marriage and togethernesses but it also is a legal contract of assets and all that. If not getting married is to spite society and some symbolic we don’t need the label then making a contract that’s very sterile and non sentimental that still protects assets and labor (including house labor etc if someone is being a homemaker) shouldn’t be an issue. If you like dating but yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:01 PM
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Is it possible she’s very Christian and getting physical freaked her out as sin? I would say meet her energy and be available if she starts warming up but give her space and do your thing. That’s both pill solution. Red because you’re not begging her and being a puppy but also blue because you’re respecting her wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:56 AM
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Hmm.. I am poly with a primary so my metric is definitely not typical as someone monogamous or even poly but looking for a primary. Looks wise I would say you need to me at least 3. cute in your own way even if you’re not necessarily going to attract people based on that alone. Personality I would say needs to be 4. Since I’m not looking for a serious life partner being able to have fun conversations, being knowledgeable in some topics that you’re passionate about and have a similar sense of hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:44 PM
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Yeah I think the people best equipped to spot it are friends. But it’s hard to see if someone isn’t going out as much because they’re having fun with the gf or because she’s isolating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:00 PM
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Did you read? There is no minimum because it is offset by the others. Elon musk scores 10 on finances. Maybe a 1 or 2 on looks 3 at best. Most women would date him though. But if he looked like that and was poor? Likely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:04 AM
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The minimum varies based on what the others are. Let’s say each category can net you a certain amount of points, positive or negative. Black pill says it’s only about looks, which is wrong, but they are somewhat picking up that physical attraction is usually the first impression/starting basis so it’s the most noticeable. You need 8 points to get a woman to sleep with you. Physical attraction level 10: Perfect chad specimen: Model gorgeous looks/dresses sharp/hot enough to hang a poster of. His …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:47 AM
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I would argue the make equivalent would be the captain save a hos that are like I can come and be her knight in shining armor. It’s framed as a much more charitable action but in the end it’s just as fruitless as women trying to change their guys. I do see that one key difference is men might be much more willing to fix things for her instead of prodding her to fix it herself but I would argue that’s not real love in the sense of a true partnership and more like adopting a pet. Similar with thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:11 AM
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actual physical violence /injuries/deaths due to it are much more likely to get attention than mental/emotional/physical abuse regardless of the gender of the one perpetrating it. Men definitely do more of the physical kind then women and even if they don’t the actual results (like broken bones/black eyes vs just getting restrained and pinned down until she calms down) are different. Now are the women still a total pos for attempting to physically assault someone? Yes. If women were physically s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:56 AM
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Well there’s willful and deliberate manipulation of a particular person done by another that’d wrong. But there’s “manipulation” that people try to do when trying to convince others their views are truth/better/moral etc than other views. If you agree you’re like yes preach! And if you don’t it’s “manipulation” and both parties labeling it actually also then attempting to manipulate popular opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:44 AM
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What country is that? Or at least region like Europe, South America, south, south east, east Asia?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:38 AM
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Traditionally the bride’s family pays. More modern couples pay themselves with some help from the parents. Where are you getting the groom pays?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:37 AM
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Aside from a few cheating /drama fetish girls, I think you’re mistaking causation for correlation. Attractive men are more likely to be snapped up off the market and are more likely to have partners. Unattractive men are not. Relationship status doesn’t make a man more or less intelligent/good looking/better job. It would be interesting if there’s a control of the same guy taken vs single. I do believe married people are given a societal bonus I general (not necessarily sexual.) my husband notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:19 PM
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While the knowledge that someone visited a sex worker does carry the “loser” stigma and usually gives a negative modifier to the attractiveness, it doesn’t severely affect that overall attractiveness of that man. If they were already kind of unattractive to begin with it’ll be more about confirming/validating that assessment than visiting the sex worker making them unattractive. If someone is already attractive they might find it distasteful but it won’t affect them that much especially if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:12 PM
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Hmm now that I think of it I have not heard of guys complain about women approaching. And I’ve heard of many guys rants about women and even rants that touch on women becoming un feminine. But even they don’t complain oh man and they just saunter over like they own the place asking guys out, women should know their place and stay looking pretty and wait. I guess it’s likely just coping for women who approached and got rejected. It’s easier on the ego to say I got rejected because he didn’t like …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:02 AM
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I think it’s more like you must get X attraction points. Let’s say you need to get 8 points to get a woman to want to sleep with you. Chad scores 10 points on looks alone. As long his personality isn’t abrasive enough to be a -3 attraction, he can just pick up a girl at the bar. Let’s say a cute but not drop dead gorgeous scored 7 attraction points on looks. He is funny and shows the women a good time. He gets the last 1 point after a fun night out on a date so while he’s not attractive enough t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:53 AM
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When do you think a guy looking for just sex will stop barking up the tree? Obviously he’s hoping for after the first date and he’s not going to wait a year. But when will most guys after a hook up move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:36 AM
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From what I’ve seen men see it as a point of pride that they can make a woman orgasm. There are the extreme outliers that care zero and just use women as a flesh light or one that really want to make sure she feels pleasure for her sake. from what I’ve seen, at least in short term hook ups, guys get off on the idea that they’re good at sex and women want them. It’s different than wanting to please women for her sake. It’s an ego boost that’s more about his ability the her pleasure. The question …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:29 AM
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What about reasonable car payments? The choice for most is get a clunker to drive to death, repeat, or get a car loan and hope to pay it in 5 years and get another 5-10 years out of it after payments are done. Getting a newer car fully cash is rough for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:25 AM
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Yeah it’s a different type of trauma. While you were clearly way too young to understand what’s going on and too young to be exposed to that it’s not the typical I was violated and scared bad touch response you picture when you hear about kids who get sexually assaulted. Thank you for sharing your story and letting us know sexual trauma/issues can manifest in different ways and don’t always look like what they portray.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:22 AM
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And trans men actually talk about the effect of t on their libido and just how often and how graphic their urges become. While they make sure to add that they will never act on some of these urges they’re like ok I get that some guys who don’t have empathy or are more unstable can just act on it while women mostly don’t even have that temptation or need to curtail that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:19 AM
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Initial approach is just that. You shouldn’t be expected to always be pursuing. It should be tit for tat and that’s for either gender doing the initial approach. If either gender is making their partner do all the work /pursing it’s a sign of disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:08 PM
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The corollary to that is if he’s the type to be all judgy that you asked he is not the type of guy you want anyway. Women lament guys might get turned off by you approaching but I don’t want to be with a guy who would see that as a negative. You don’t have to see it as a positive and give me a cookie for approaching but it should be neutral and you should judge me for who I present myself when I approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:05 PM
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I would say yes if it’s something that’s not in his supposed control. For example women are more likely to have their husbands divorce them if they diagnosed with cancer which means women are more likely to stick by their man in times of illness. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091110105401.htm But I think most women are attracted to ambition more than the fruits of it. If someone has no passion and is a trust fund baby that’ll be less attractive than someone who hasn’t made it but…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:51 PM
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It depends on “total stranger”. I have not in a everyday setting like grocery store or gas station but I have at cons/events. They are a total stranger in terms of prior interaction but by the fact that they are there means there’s some common interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:44 PM
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I think that’s really the difference and contributes the to so called 80/20 rule. There are plenty of sexless women but they’re not as upset about it. They’re able to manage better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:33 PM
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It’s almost good that incel is their flag though. Imagine if some other fringe groups with either crazy religious or political motives snapped them up or somehow capitalized on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:31 PM
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There’s sex workers that work for themselves and advertise on social media. Usually trafficked women are anonymous and not trying to get the lime light.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:13 PM
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There’s certain aspects that is just a construct but physical biology does have an effect on decisions at the macro level. For example the risk of pregnancy is not equal between male and and females and both sides have risk. With females you risk getting pregnant and having to take care of it one way or another and it falls on you. With males you could vet all you want and use a condom etc but if your partner wants to keep it you’re stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:31 AM
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But won’t that just draw attention to it? Or maybe it’s the female ego’s equivalent of having a expensive car, to have a tall bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:06 AM
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That’s fair. There’s a reason it’s not all the bombshell trope. There’s every race/national origin, granny milf, skinny to bbw. I guess if anything porn tells us everyone has a wide range of tastes. Some are more popular than others but someone somewhere will be into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:05 AM
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Yeah and that isn’t to downplay how being down right unattractive makes it harder. Like bad enough that people notice even in a public place where no one is gauging that. If I’m at the grocery store someone would have to be extremely gorgeous or hideous if I’m going to note what you look like while scanning for bargains
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:50 AM
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It’s basically questioning what commitment means. Does it mean monogamy or staying with someone through the trials and tribulations of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:44 AM
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Fair but I am also free to pursue other guys and girls too. I wouldn’t go for a one sided polygamy harem like the kings/sultans of the old. In terms of “resources lost” my husband going out with his gf isn’t any different than his going out with his buddies. He is careful with who he chooses and his gf is lovely and a cool. We’d probably hangout more if she lived closer but he travels a hourish to see her. I have observed that when monogamous couples initially open up their relationships the gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:52 AM
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I think there’s a difference between which porn actress he clicks on vs who he pursues. I don’t think it’s subconscious when he’s looking at pictures online on who he finds the most attractive. But we do have an internal compass when we are pursuing things irl and women who shows body language of being receptive probably seems much more attractive and probably activates the metaphorical or literal pheromones or whatever lol. If you compare hot girl irl who doesn’t even know he’s there or has clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:39 AM
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I personally think humans aren’t wired for strict monogamy. While we don’t know for a fact what the cavemen were like it’s commonly theorized that they have a home hearth and one primary partner with child rearing while sex wasn’t seen as strictly monogamous so you’d sleep with other people obviously you were the most bonded with your primary partner. If you look at what humans do in practice today that is the actual behavior we see today. My husband and I are poly and we are pretty happy and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:27 AM
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So who’s providing the women with sex? Is it the top tier guys sleeping with 3 or 4 at once or are women just more content being alone than guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:49 PM
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This is beyond the scope of saying though. It’s the economy and student loans, health care costs to have a child etc that’s affecting the population. I know a lot of my friend who are holding off on kids even though they want kids because of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:46 PM
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Hard to explain drowning to someone dying of dehydration
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:44 PM
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Then the onus is on the man to be a bit pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:36 PM
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I mean it’s supply and demand. If you find it distasteful don’t date them. If enough follow that trend they’ll stop if they want partners. If not then the market says it’s ok. Individual opinions don’t really hold weight for a debate sub. Now if you see a trend where guys aren’t t dating them we can talk but even you admit there’s plenty of guys who are into them. You can cry they’re simps /thirsty etc but it’s clearly not a deal breaker for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:29 PM
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I don’t think being super attractive is that beneficial especially for women. I feel like the benefit of being the top tier women vs top tier men in terms of looks isn’t as different (barring model/make money with your looks level) Because enough guys are attracted to you. Women often complain that men only want sex and that’s when people start phasing out through the hook up stage and start going through the settle down phase. Yes even the top 20% chad eventually want to settle and lucky guy as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:05 PM
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Agreed. I’d there’s a guy that you’re already attracted to even many jokes are cute and awkward (as long as they’re not like flat out offensive. If it just falls flat and wasn’t as clever as he hoped it seems endearing).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:57 PM
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So what are the women doing wrong? Or are you just saying they need to stop whining when the top tier guys won’t settle down with them? Any you kind of realize your league by shooting your shot and seeing what sticks. Guys realize their pecking order when women keep rejecting them. FDS women are the bitter ones that hoped they’d get chad but just got sex but no commitment. They realized they’ve been sex zoned too late. That’s why they have a chip on their shoulder about getting guys to commit wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:52 PM
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Then why be mad at the women for rejecting them? No one is making men sleep with anyone so they can refuse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:17 PM
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I know anecdotal/personal stuff isn’t evidence but I can see a visceral reaction to dating a guy shorter than me as a turn off. Not necessarily a deal breaker but that would be points against attraction. But I don’t get the arbitrary 6’+ mark unless it’s a status symbol. Because that declaration makes you look shallow and would turn off guys who are 5’11 who’s perfectly attractive and if I was a 6’ guy I would find it shallow and a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 06:04 PM
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This. Often times attraction isn’t logical. Trying to put morality on dating attraction is framing it in way that’s not conducive to discussion. Asking people to question if they’re actually not attracted or if they’re just following societal expectations would be more interesting. Does a 5’0 girl really feel no attraction to a 5’8” guy or does she just feel compelled to demand 6’+ as a stays symbol to show off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:12 PM
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