RlyORly Archive

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0	The male equivalent of groupies. Are they as successful as their female counter-parts ?	Discussion	RlyORly	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/14 08:47 AM

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1	Psychologist/Marriage Counselor - Why Great Husbands Are Being Abandoned More data needed to jump to conclusions. And some statistics would be nice. I wholeheartly agree that this stuff can happen. But then I imagine it can happen to "nice girls" too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/14 08:37 PM
-1	Yay Feminism? This article brings up a lot of male benefits that I didn't even know about. Are we really discussing this ? The number of points mentioned in article could be related to number of stuff other than feminism. This is so vague... Damn, I miss the days when people threw science articles at each other :(	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/14 08:23 PM
0	Not so different Geez, different people have different tastes. Maybe he looked for a girl who will listen to him talk about Spinoza ? I had multiple girls talk about themselves to me all the time... For me Spinoza would be less boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/14 06:03 PM
2	One of the most interesting things I've come across pertaining to the differences between men and women's sexual desires and preferences. That was areally interesting article. IMO a must read for both TRP and BP. For BP, to understand from what experiences TRP sometimes comes from. And for TRP to understand what the women in these experiences could be motivated with (not 100% evopsych). The sexual narcissism and the passiveness of women's sexual attraction is what really hit me there. About the feminist part... I just think that the West (I live in central/easter europe) is far more politically correct. I didn't get the impression…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/14 05:48 PM
1	Why are polygamy, polyamory, open relations, a bad thing? Mkay, thanks for your post! You have explained mostly your approach to open relationships. Mind if I ask some questions ? First, since you value fun, what is the thing you enjoy in LTR which you couldn't enjoy in other types of relationships ? Second, do you participate in some kind of poly community, or do you and your partners just go with random people you met ? Third, if you participate in some kind of poly community, could you try to describe the experiences of the most attractive women and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/14 10:44 AM
1	Why are polygamy, polyamory, open relations, a bad thing? You know, it might be just that you have different experiences (and the reasons can be different, from associating with wrong people to allowing yourself to be used). Also, well, he posted one example, but this might be due to reasons that it's better to not make too long posts. I do not doubt that he might have more experiences like this. You said in your post: "third wave feminists", "they wanted freedom and equality", ""smart," "strong," "wildly-independent" feminist woman"... Yet it is still…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/14 10:16 AM
4	Why are polygamy, polyamory, open relations, a bad thing? Hm, I thought about it, also I've read "The Ethical Slut". I wouldn't mind my partners being promiscuous while I would be like this myself. But I doubt (as a male) I'd have easier time finding women then women finding men. And all the jealousy, neglect... I guess it can be fun, but I wouldn't think it's healthy for the long run. One guy from TRP posted his (mainly negative and confirming TRP stereotypes) experiences. Could you post yours ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/14 07:03 PM
10	RP Men, how were you lied to? Anecdotes are welcome. Dunno. Was a believer in equality. And in that the same attracts the same. While I don't think I've been fed bad advice about relationships in general, just a lot of dunnos (maybe expect, "It will happen in your own time, so why are you going for dates from internet ?" - that thing is bad advice). I've had some female friends that did have this belief that women have to be pedestalized. Me being against this was me being 'a bad person', and this was one of the first thoughts of why I might be no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/14 05:30 PM
1	The male equivalent of groupies. Are they as successful as their female counter-parts ? This is kind of offtopic, but why do you think women have men throwing themselves all the time ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/14 04:41 PM
1	The male equivalent of groupies. Are they as successful as their female counter-parts ? Regular women have men throwing themselves at them all the time. Nothing really changes if she becomes famous. And what about less than attractive famous female performers ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/14 01:45 PM
3	TRP and BP, how do you deviate slightly or dramatically from gender roles, or do your beliefs generally match how you conduct yourself? My parents got divorced when I was five, then I've been with my mother, but then my grandparents have taken her the child raising rights and after that I was raised both by my mother and grandparents, where my grandma and mother were in competition of who could be a better mother. In short, I didn't receive anything close to traditional male upbringing. Rather something messed up. I am not interested in cars, nor in sports. I was sensitive - I didn't like the verbal abuse which boys do throw at …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/14 09:04 AM
1	Resent at being a woman trying to fit into a man's world. I would think of people as men and women only when you want to attract someone, or build relationships. In terms of mental capacity or intellect I don't think there's any big difference. There was definitely inequality before in that women were not allowed to pursue higher education. So we cannot really know if the historical under-representation of women in science is due to this or 'not being suited'. IMO - just don't think about gender wars when relating to the career. Do what you like, and r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/14 09:52 PM
1	Is sex actually worth the trouble TRP goes through to get it? Dunno, I think (part of) TRP is kind of spot on the rules of attraction. And that's I've stopped chasing sex. I don't like the game, sry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/14 09:28 PM
10	XKCD Comic So what's the difference between being a nice guy and falling for a friend, or a nice guy who's told that being sexually direct is offensive for women and therefore it's better to be friends first (or is just shy), between someone who's a "Nice Guy" who is tricking a woman to sleep with him ? Add to that complexity of human nature, or that people who are not desired are judged more harshly, and an average looking nice guy might be lumped with "Nice Guys".	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/14 02:51 PM
1	Dan Savage's advice to a lonely young guy... Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't on the reddit for some time. Someone filled with self-esteem and hope [...] If you continuously try to get attention from opposite sex and fail, and see how it works for people who adopt more controversial strategies, you lose both self esteem and hope. [...] but if you're not tackling the depression you're not really 'improving' yourself. At least, not really. Think of an anorectic person convinced of their obesity, starving themselves. I believe that you can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/14 02:36 PM
5	XKCD Comic As a nice guy... Been BP, went full RP, then BP, now kinda RP. I've been happier being RP than BP. Even thought the all the shit RP gets, I understand the ideas that go before it. And while I didn't like PUA stuff, I certainly see them as something useful, something to be used as a crutch for some time. Even if I get shit for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/14 02:01 PM
4	Dan Savage's advice to a lonely young guy... This. What is better: a) Stay depressed from loneliness. Improve yourself, but do not approach women. Try to not hurt people when achieving your goals. Get disrespected and ignored for being depressed. Eventually turn bitter and disrespectful towards the world, becoming less attractive. b) Try to approach women, play with having different attitudes (manipulation ?), do not get attached, care mostly for yourself. Eventually have some success, build confidence with opposite sex. Maybe have a reput…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/14 10:04 AM
2	Girls and Software To be honest, she was better than me in rock climbing :P And she did enjoy it, later she always agreed to go, and didn't have any doubts about it. Also, we did it indoors, so it wasn't really dangerous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/14 03:31 PM
1	What would you want your love life to be like if you were somehow desired, unconditionally, by every single person you desired? Damn, lately I've got a really low libido, so it's hard to say now. I know that there were times where I've wanted to have every girl I found attractive, but right now I don't give much attention to it. I guess I'd like someone to have a good relationship with. If my libido would skyrocket, then I guess I could have different priorities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/14 02:35 PM
3	Girls and Software In college the "new girl" simply won't be included in study groups and in the workforce she is not invited to lunch. It is up to the woman to breach this segregation. I study computer science in central Europe. It doesn't look like this where I study. We did invite girls from our group to party with us or do some projects or what not. One girl did integrate with our group, but she didn't feel good (she wasn't a nerd before going to CS). The rest kind of isolated themselves. Not that they didn't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/14 02:05 PM
0	Q for Purple Pillers: What about you is blue, and what about you is red? I do agree with you with almost everything. I do think woman and man are different, yet I hope that we could be equal. It would be a lot more fun (for me) if there would be more female nerds, or women who don't care much about social status, are driven by their inner passions, and are accepting to men from all kinds of life. I would hope that I could be just myself, not really cocky, a little shy, awkward, and still be able to attract someone from my world. But naah... Reminding myself to have a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/14 01:55 PM
0	This sub is great. Yeah, I have to say this sub rocks. You can definitely broaden your horizons, but I guess it's pointless in the end, at least for me. There are questions that will not be answered for now. A lot of my personal experience clicks with what some of the RP users say. And science hasn't done much to prove or disprove some of the questions. So, all what you have is experience. And when other people have similar experiences and observation, it kinda adds to validity of it. Sure, it might all be bias, b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/14 02:40 PM
1	Are men really disadvantaged in the "Sexual Marketplace"? Sorry, but viewing a certain category of humans as interchangeable is pathological. The connection, bond, is not interchangeable. The humans, especially the one who you don't know, are more or less interchangeable. You would care much if something bad happend to your family. If 100k people died in a earthquake somewhere far away - I doubt it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Good Guy does his research, looking into groups online and off that encourage the mingling of people for casual sex. I've tried th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/13 12:23 PM
3	Are men really disadvantaged in the "Sexual Marketplace"? mrsama once responded to me when I've shared these videos. He mentioned a study, where women were asked later how they felt about guy approaching them. The % of women who would like to have sex, but were afraid, was comparable to the % of men saying yes. http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/100/2/309/ Damn, I wish I had time to read this one...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/13 12:00 PM
4	What does the casual lurker of /trp/ believe? Are we all as fucking crazy as some of the misogynists there? Read here to find out. To me, it sounds like you've fallen for the biggest bit of bullshit TRP yells constantly - You have to find a SO through any means necessary. I've just red some topics like these: 1 2 Soo... There isn't a lot of "Get into relationship ASAP" there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/13 01:58 PM
4	Is this acceptable behavior? Yay, let's have fun of rad-toxic-masculine guys, but if you dare to have fun of radfems, you are a shit person. Great. tumblr in action, it's a subreddit and it is pretty toxic... they make fun of weird tumblr subcultures and roll it in with feminism and social justice, so they all tend to have a nasty knee-jerk reaction to anything related to feminism. For me, it seems some TBPs have the same reaction to MRAs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/13 11:58 AM
-1	Hormones, Behavior and why Alpha is real Hm, I wonder if there's some real study on subject of how do trans people do process world, before, and after...	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/13 07:14 PM
2	The problem with the "it just works" argument for the red pill So, for some reasons some people who stumbled into TRP were too nice to women. They put them on pedestal (Why ?). It didn't give them what they wanted from them. It didn't make them happy. Some of them, for some reason didn't have their life in shape. They weren't satisfied by their lifes. So, why didn't they find this advice about self-improvement more alluring somewhere else ? Some people will say "Internal misogony!". Dunno. Maybe the wake up call had to be more shocking... Oh, hell, I'm too …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/13 01:20 AM
6	Is there such a thing as "female privilege"? So it seems like instead of chasing equality, we chase jealousy. Yay for humanity...	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/13 12:38 AM
1	Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other? I think it would be more ethical than experimenting on living humans. Less ethical than observing living humans that somehow differ from the rest. And for that thing to work... Weell.. You're right. It was just a wild idea. Thought I wonder if this should get to molecule-simulation level. Maybe some more approximate models could be created... but, I'm no spec on this subject, so I'm not going to say anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/13 03:06 PM
1	Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other? Or maybe we could (with enough computing power) make a simulation of human brain, with variables such as influence of hormones, minerals, etc, in blood. And external stimuli, as what would trigger what neural networks! But I'd guess we'd have to wait about 100 years (or more) before being able to do so. Ok, but seriously, we can more or less approximate extent of social conditioning. That's why I'd like to see what's so different in lives of people who go against the social norms of their societ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/13 11:55 AM
1	Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other? I'm not sure, really... I agree that social conditioning is definitively a factor, but how important ? There are people, who go against the values the society tries to instil on them. For example men who go nursing. Women who go engineering. (Though some of the women I know who go into engineering have both parents who are engineers, so.. yeah, this could play a factor). What is different with their situation that they choose what they chose ? Maybe the social conditioning affects mostly the 'av…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/13 12:05 AM
1	Intellectually Utility-Maximizing vs Innate Responses Heh, I thought about it once...Well, sure, our civilization is great, we have healthcare, education, and violence generally dropped down. We live better lifes then people in the past. But we still like violence (movies, games, etc.). We still like to see sometimes someone else fail. And most of us agree that this is bad, so we choose to channel these things positively. But when it comes to attraction... Umm... We like to build relationships based on that. Unless the relationship is really bad, n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/13 12:28 PM
0	Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other? Yea, I just wonder if the BP side has any arguments to that. It's not like women were opressed to choose following role.. dancing is for fun, it's an open activity. Also, it's good for creating attraction. Why didn't it come up in any culture for woman to usually lead in a dance ? Though I'd agree with women being attracted to non-submissive men, I think it's also a way to display confidence, sureness in movement, ability to have fun and to not take yourself seriously all the time, and a way to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/13 12:01 PM
-1	Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other? I'm just wondering.. in couple dancing, traditionally the man is the one that takes the lead, and the woman is the one that follows. The question is why ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/13 04:09 AM
2	[Serious] What have we learned from PPD? o_O	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 11:54 AM
3	[Serious] What have we learned from PPD? So maybe if we didn't have a culture of pedestalizing women, there wouldn't be a lot of angry men, and TRP could focus mostly on self-improvement! Though I understand that TBP's mockery of TRP might push people from understinding TBP's point of view, I think that TBP is mostly a defense mechanism for some of the things you can find in TRP. I think it could feel the same as reading Cosmo advice on how to date men, just a lot more extreme. "Hey, I'm not like that, I don't like girls who treat me a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 11:51 AM
8	[Serious] What have we learned from PPD? Oh, the most valuable thing for me here is the science! Though I wish I'd be able to do speed reading, to read all the articles and come to my own conclusions. I understand people's disgust with TRP. It's oversimplifying a lot of stuff, and can be a toxic environment. But I can relate to some relationship problems described there. And I like some of questions they pose. I like to see some of them answered in PPD. Yet, the thing is there's IMO a lot more science, experiment repeating to be done t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 01:19 AM
2	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs Being able to communicate yourself efficiently is attractive. And I guess actors/actresses got that ironed out. More or less. A voice emission teacher said to me that when you know how to use your voice, little children (<2 years old) can listen to you, no matter what do you speak about. I wonder if there's some science backing this up. I'm not sure how about other guys, but... I don't look up to celebrities. At all. Most of the girls I'm attracted to have 'inside' value, including beauty, confi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 12:54 AM
1	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs Good for you, then!	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 12:39 AM
2	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs Hm, I've tried to ask women "what can I do to attract a girl, both in ONS and LTR term", and received good responses. Didn't try "what can I do to make YOU want to have sex with me"... Hm. Kind of very direct. I'd rather argue that she'd get defensive. Not necessarily thinking of you being desperate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 12:38 AM
3	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs So, basicly, someone who is comfortable with his maleness, confident but not overbearing (can stand his ground, assertive), is intelligent, and interesting, cool to be with. Some of the PUA stuff will tell the same. Well, maybe except the openers, preselection, and don't-give-up-when-she-says-no attitude. Once I've stumbled on a blog series here. I think the tips here are about creating some of the qualities you described. And I've found them at TRP. The problem is that people have to work on th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/13 12:25 AM
3	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs Hook up as ONS or hook up as "Hang around together for some prolonged time?" Because if it's the first, the meaning could be that girls prefer relationships, and for that -> beta. But if there's a situation unrevealing for ONS... why not take someone who's attractive and confident, not necessarely a good person ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/13 07:14 PM
2	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs Who do you consider high-value then ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/13 07:06 PM
2	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs Assuming people are that much self aware... Assuming we might have no beliefs limiting our self-perception. Heck, I don't know what I want most of the time, unless it's presented to me and I have time for introspection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/13 07:05 PM
1	One sex professing to know what the other sex wants/needs So maybe, a better question would be what women do NOT want at all, since earlier his response rate was zero ? I'd also guess this "What women want" could be more precise, ex. "what women want for sex" or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/13 06:59 PM
1	Why does TRP look down on promiscuous women? If I recall, there have been actual studies on this and they found that the main reason women rejected random men asking them for sex was that they did not feel safe and they had been taught not to be alone with strange men. When asked if they were attracted to them or whether they would have liked to have had sex with them, the differences between men and women practically disappeared. Could I get the names or links to the studies ? EDIT: Typo	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/13 10:19 PM
0	Why does TRP look down on promiscuous women? I know this isn't science, buut... Asking 100 women for sex All of the approaches failed, but a part of women enjoyed the question. Asking 14 men for sex A lot more success than the male counterpart. Of course, there are a lot more variables to be considered. Attractiveness, culture, beliefs of people performing the experiment, etc. I'd definitley would like to see this experiment repeated again in different places by different people. Gives some food for thought tho'. And for men not having low…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/13 10:06 PM
0	Men with a high sexual partner count that prefer women with a low sexual partner count Damn, so the chances for a man to get into the field are 15% per each interested woman, and for woman it's 60%. :(kind_of_half-joking	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/13 09:11 PM
5	Sleeping around fucks women up. They can't pair-bond as easily. They lose the piece of themselves that can effectively love a man. Em, is 11 years making really huge difference ? One additional year (according to LeaneGenova) making this study that much less reputable ? Man, I've got a feeling that it's more about discussing how much reputable this study is according to some reputable's person standards. I'd like to see some better arguments, fhqwhgads_.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/13 12:42 AM
1	She doesn't love you. Meh. Some of the advice women gave me about relationships were similar to what some PUA's say, exactly: "Don't give up too early! Some women like to be chased!". Okay, so I've asked now one of my female friends about advise. So far, this: "First, if it's a party and alcohol, the first think is ofcourse if you're a fine piece of ass. [ I don't know how to translate it, but it basicly means atractiveness] If you arent, well, after some talk a woman might go with you to bed from sympathy. Unless fr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/13 11:42 PM
0	a discrepancy on redpiller's I see. I guess I can certainly agree that the experience of such feelings can extend the compassion, but still I'd be reluctant to say it makes women more honorable, virtuous, etc than men. I had such believes about women while young, and when I saw some not-that-pretty side of women (which is probably just human nature) I could belive the other side - women are worse than men. Someone here said something about such psychological phenomena, of having unbalanced feelings towards group that one fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/13 01:45 PM
0	a discrepancy on redpiller's I see. So in other words being 'maternal' triggers the want for humans to have most fulfilling and safe experiences of life, but mostly for the family. M'kay. And what about people outside of the family ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/13 11:38 AM
0	a discrepancy on redpiller's Why in your opinion do women have more reasons to behave with those traits ? And when ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/13 10:57 AM
1	Why is the idea that men have needs offensive to blue pillers? True. Yeah, in a way it's about succumbing to your baser instincts. The guy could probably pursue sex in more honest way. But I guess it is kind of hard, because (I think) there is some stigma to man wanting sex from woman ("Oh, you only see me as an object!" slap) than vice-versa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/13 05:40 PM
3	Why is the idea that men have needs offensive to blue pillers? I imagine it's like with hunger. If you're starving, you'd like to throw yourself at the nearest available food and desperately throw the shredded meal into your mouth. It's weird, but I guess it's not unacceptable - food isn't a human being. But when it comes to sex and having high libido.. urgh. Things get complicated. I think based on my experience, (I could be wrong and if there's science of this topic, I'd like to see it) is that it's harder for men to have causal sex. And at some point you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/13 05:25 PM