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Yeah man its simple just do what i did. Start by figuring out what discipline you want to learn (which you've already done) next look up martial arts gyms that teach that discipline online. The gym will likely have a website or social media account. Check that out. See if you can find any reviews online. See if they post their membership and class schedule online. How much money are you planning to invest on your self improvement vi this gym? You need a ballpark figure of what the month to month…
/r/MGTOW06/04/21 07:59 PM
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No, you aren't the only one bothered by it. Yes, I would argue you are wrong. The reason you are bothered by it because of "cognitive dissonance" which is totally fine. I'll break it down for you The universal rules of MGTOW are no long term relationships, no cohabitation, no marriage, etc. so, by definition, a married man cannot be MGTOW. On the surface a "married mgtow" is a contradiction or oxymoron. However I'm going to build my case for why married MGTOWs exist Point #1.) Discovery of MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW216/03/21 04:37 PM
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Depends on what genre of games you like tbh. The switch has hands down been my favorite console since i can pick up and play. As a parent it's great when your kid wants to watch something and your gaming session isn't interrupted. Heck even if my son asks to play many switch games offer local co-op so we can play together. Heck the switch has gotten many ports if other franchises from other consoles. For me Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate has been my most played at nearly 1000 hours and at t…
/r/MGTOW04/02/21 02:32 PM
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I got you OP. I made this thread for the cross section of men that find MGTOW post marriage: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/evdd6u/advice_to_those_who_discover_mgtow_after_marriage/ Undoubtedly unpopular opinion here but the key aspect(s) of MGTOW are NOT no marriage and/or no cohabitation. At it's core, the most important aspect of the MGTOW philosophy is not basing your self-worth as an individual on a woman. Last I checked this can be done regardless of martial status. Does this mea…
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 04:34 PM
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I am genuinely sorry this has happened to you. The good thing is that many men have gone through this and have been generous enough to share their experiences online so other men know what is up. If you are trying to get of idea of what is about to happen next I suggest this mini series by Coach Greg Adams (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFqsPsn0Tw). Navigating Through Your Divorce, Episode 1 - Red Flags Navigating Through Your Divorce, Episode 2 - From Counseling To Attorney Navigating Throug…
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 02:36 PM
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...say sike right now...
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 03:25 AM
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I want to go to japan for the next Gundam or Monster Hunter anniversary
/r/MGTOW213/10/20 01:26 PM
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Basically men go through a "Red Pill Cycle" very similar to the stages of grief. In general, the five stages of grief are described as: Stage 1: Denial aka Stage 2: Anger Stage 3: Bargaining Stage 4: Depression Stage 5: Acceptance The bitterness, anger, vitriol, etc. you see in posts/comments comes from those men, knowingly or unknowingly, stuck in "anger stage" (or what we in the community call the "red pill rage" stage) There aren't any way to track numbers but if I had to guess I would say th…
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 09:12 PM
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"Just as it is male nature to chase the girl with the fastest ass it is female nature to chase the male with the fattest wallet. Males want fertile women while females want men with resources" Any rebuttal can be dismissed with "Exceptions to the rule does not negate the existence of the rule. If you don't like it take it up with nature, not me."
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 01:07 PM
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My advice would be to realize you are more than your marriage. Happiness comes from within and different things make different people happy. I would say find out more about yourself by delving into personality theory like MBTI, Enneagram, etc. That's what I did personally. The dating apps ain't gonna help you (from what i have heard) I think having hobbies, friends, etc. will help fill the void. The problem is many married men don't have an identity outside of being a husband or being a father s…
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 01:01 PM
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It's not a gender thing. It's a personality thing. I do not know how old you are but if you are young what do you expect? People tend to talk about their experiences in life and younger people tend not to have experiences to talk about outside of sex, dating, music, movies, etc. which is targeted to them specifically.
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 12:51 PM
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From an objective standpoint romantic relationships save you time. Think about how much time dating takes up. Trying to talk/text to get something going, sync up a time to meet, getting ghosted, eyc. Not only time setting up dates but potentially money as well trying to do fun and interesting things to impress the other person. Whether you are dating for entertainment or sex there is a significant time invested Enter romantic relationships. They reduce the amount of time required to get entertai…
/r/MGTOW228/08/20 12:26 PM
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I had that problem a long time ago on my blackberry phone. I would scroll facebook until hitting yesterday's news. What helped me was asking myself "Do i even care about this stuff?" 9 times out of 10 i didn't care so i would stop and put my phone in my pocket. Whenever i felt the urge to pull out my phone and scroll I'd ask myself "do i have a reason to look at Facebook?" If i had a reason (like checking if someone replied to a PM) I'd check for that specific thing then put my phone away immedi…
/r/MGTOW26/08/20 12:41 PM
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I was married when i was in my early 20s. Nearly a decade later i would not recommend marriage because it is simply too risky for men. For more information go watch "divorce corp" Is that it for marriage? Depends on whether your wife believes love is a feeling or believes love is a choice. If your wife believes love is a feeling then yes expect what you have heard. The vast majority of women see love as a feeling and once the "feeling" os gone they will likely become unfaithful, divorce or both.…
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 05:49 AM
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I think i needed to hear this today
/r/MGTOW202/08/20 09:13 PM
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I'm not that business savy but there are many people on YouTube who started their HVAC business and talk about the transition. Here's one of them: https://youtu.be/D8iArrkqHUI
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 12:56 PM
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Long story short it actually requires effort for men to get sex while it requires no effort for a woman to give sex. That and women have children so it's not a good look if you been passed around so often you don't know who the dad is. As a man you have to be on top of your game in order to have a woman to have sex with you. For example you have to be good looking, have money, have a car, have a place to stay, etc. There is an arbitrary checklist you must complete to get sex as a guy so when a g…
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 12:49 PM
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What's my view on the numbers thing? How many men a woman has opened her legs for is a reflection of her character (or lack thereof) I'm going to keep it 100% and say the higher the body count the more probable she will return to those ex boyfriend(s) or one night stand(s) during a rough patch in a relationship, when she wants attention or whenever she's bored...which is why i wouldn't bother with anything serious with such a woman because she don't belong to me...she belong to the streets lol I…
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 03:13 AM
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You are not the first to discover MGTOW after marriage nor will you be the last. My first post was about this topic long ago. Some interesting discussions were there if you wanna check it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/evdd6u/advice_to_those_who_discover_mgtow_after_marriage/
/r/MGTOW227/07/20 01:50 PM
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I think once you walk outside mgtow1 and mgtow2 don't matter lol It's the philosophy of mgtow and/or what you do with it that is important. mgtow1 is seen as "toxic" because of individuals who lash out at others when they see others "going their own way" INSTEAD of "going MY way."
/r/MGTOW201/07/20 01:23 PM
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Do I think women are toxic and all lying, hypergamous sluts? No. We all have choices in our lives and that's, simply, what many women CHOOSE to be. Exceptions exist. With that said I personally believe women are CAPABLE of being toxic, lying, hypergamous sluts. When you look at how dating is now (from a purely biological perspective) it makes sense that men will sleep with anything that walks and women to have offspring from multiple fathers for genetic diversity as the benefits the chances for …
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 05:25 AM
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You are just another guy to me.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:30 PM
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hello
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 03:00 AM
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I addressed your morals thing straight up in the first paragraph. The situation is a catch-22. When it's all said and done, either you suffer by getting attached to your parents and they die or you don't get attached and they die and you suffer from regrets of not spending more time with them. Pick your poison. It is what it is. Suffering is an inevitable part of the human condition. Regardless of sex, race, age, socioeconomic status, etc. suffering is something experienced by all humans and we …
/r/MGTOW203/06/20 04:36 PM
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Honestly it's impossible to answer your question without morals and/or platitudes. I think it's rather obvious that you should spend time with your parents and they will die one day. Honestly kids are REALLY expensive: "For example, parents who have a child today will spend, on average, $284,570 by the time the baby turns 18, according to Department of Agriculture (USDA) data." (https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/090415/cost-raising-child-america.asp) Parents are dumping load…
/r/MGTOW203/06/20 01:30 PM
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Anything by late and great Patrice O' Neal. Dave Chappelle's killing them softly is my favorite but any or his stand-ups are entertaining Tom Segura is a pretty funny dude too. He has some good stuff on Netflix
/r/MGTOW230/05/20 09:28 PM
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Unfortunately I'm not near B-more otherwise I welcome all sparing matches. I fight as a hobby. I been doing Muay Thai for...like 2 and a half years now. Before the pandemic I was training to become on par to an amateur fighter
/r/MGTOW229/05/20 02:16 AM
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How do you become a happier and content person after the redpill? Simple. You acknowledge and accept you self-worth as a man is independent of women. When it comes to what to do with the MGTOW philosophy that's something you are going to have to figure out on your own. It's you path to walk. The best way to think of the Red Pill is like a strategy guide for a video game. At first you were doing a blind play through so you had to figure out everything out on your own. Now you have a strategy guid…
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 02:21 AM
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Ah a writing topic. Lovely. I my opinion what you are seeing is the side effects of a generation of women being told "there are no differences between men and women" for the majority of their lives so they believe it. As such today's women (in general) likely perceive things like friendship, loyalty, compassion, kindness, etc. as weakness because that's not what the male characters do. If you look at the portrayals of modern day female heroes (For example Rei from Star Wars) the are just caricat…
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 02:05 AM
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Look out guys! We have an internet black belt here.
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 12:57 AM
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Well I would recommend you purchase the Free Agent Lifestyle by Coach Greg Adams as it has good life advice for young men on various topics. It's only like $13 on amazon and if I would have had access to that information at 20 years old my whole life would be different. As for as myself honestly this is the advice I would give my 20 year old self. Advice #1: Think about how much money you will need to make annually to live "comfortably" and find a job you wouldn't mind doing to make that much am…
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 03:36 PM
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I started doing martial arts. A big difference from playing fighting to actually sparring a real person. Blocking in a game and blocking in real life is pretty different. Also the little injuries you encounter throughout training. Having to determine what's a reasonable amount of pain to tolerate and when you need to chill to heal.
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 12:13 AM
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1.) Fair point. Men should not just blame everything on women and be willing to take responsibility for their failures and/or shortcomings. 2.) Better Bachelor was 100% correct to chastise his audience for being unfriendly towards female commenters. You can claim his rising "popularity" is making him welcome women with open arms and value their opinions but that's most likely isn't true. I believe joker understands that some women actually care about the men in their lives be it grandmothers, mo…
/r/MGTOW216/05/20 11:15 PM
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You got it. You still have a job so there's that. Your friend is a 10 hour drive but like one minute away via a phone call. Same for family. Schedule set times to call them. As for all the free time invest in some hobbies. Writing helps. Home work outs are popular. Like there is stuff to do you jist have to adjust to the new "normal"
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 12:50 AM
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No you are not being to harsh, you are being critical which is more than fair. I disagree. It's clear as day a marriage is a business deal with both the husband and wife being expected to uphold their contract. The evidence for this is in the wedding vows themselves: "I take you to be my (husband/wife); to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, in joy and in sorrow, to love and to cherish, and to be faithful to you alone,…
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 05:21 PM
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I will do you one better. Anabolic Aliens on YouTube has a bunch of videos of exercises targeting specific areas. He also separates the video base on if you have no equipment, dumbbells, kettlebells, etc. My personal favorite is jump roping but i use a Thai jump rope. Thai jump ropes are more heavy and build up your arm while getting cardio...they also hurt like hell if you hit your foot keeping you motivated to keep jumping lol I used to do three 3 minute rounds but then i started doing two 10 …
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 10:53 AM
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I know this may come as a bit of a shock but everyone is weird. Yes even the people you think are "normal" are weird. Whether you do what everyone else does or choose not to someone will think you are "weird" so it's kinda pointless dwell on it. Just find out who you are and be that person. Social interactions are an important part of life. If you are bad at them then practice because they ain't going anywhere soon. You don't have to be "perfect" or anything but you will want serviceable skills.…
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 01:26 AM
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Thank you for the life advice, I'll apply/pass it on when the opportunity presents itself. I know I'm just a random dude on the internet but i think you are plenty wise enough. The one thing rarely brought up here on this sub is our mortality. We should make the most of the time we do have and not take it for granted. It's precious.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 12:58 AM
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Yeah we pretty much innately have "the grass is greener on the other side" mentality. The truth is the grass will never be "green" enough.
/r/MGTOW210/05/20 12:42 AM
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It's less a conflicting view between members of MGTOW2 and more the cognitive dissonance that "faux MGTOW" have when they find out they are incapable of getting what they REALLY want (dates, sex, women, etc.) and the utter indifference MGTOW have to that problem because it's no longer a priority in their lives.
/r/MGTOW207/05/20 02:26 PM
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This sounds like typical teenage angst. I know when you are a teenager you think you know everything (probably worse now due to the internet) but book smarts will only get you so far in the real world. The truth is it's less "what you know" in this world and more "who you know" Your lack of respect for elders could end up costing you opportunities aka "your attitude problem." You are likely no different from those in your generation who are brain dead due to over information. Y'all are exposed t…
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 01:04 PM
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It ain't worth it my dude. You dodged a bullet by not committing. Trust me. What you have is freedom. The freedom to do what you want, when you want and how you want. If this woman is making you feel this way by just being married to someone else imagine how she can make you feel if she chose to ruin your life? How it would make you feel if she betrayed you? I know it's not what you want to hear now but this is an opportunity for growth before the next chapter of your life.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 02:55 AM
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Honestly i would forget about her. You already told her how you felt about her so you don't have to wonder "what if" in regards to her. You laid your cards on the table already, she wasn't interested. Move on my dude. You already have a major red flag that she cheated on her ex boyfriend. What makes you think she won't cheat on you? Knowing this I'd deal with her with an extra long handled spoon. If y'all meet organically in your shared hobby then be cordial. You sitting here thinking y'all are …
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 11:02 PM
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That's exactly the thing. RPR is supposed to be a phase with a "beginning, middle and end." I'm critical of those on MGTOW because i am holding them accountable for their lack of self control. I understand why they are angry and they are justified to be angry. However there comes a point where they need to build a bridge and get over it because it becomes detrimental. What happens when you try to tell them this? You get called a white knight, beta, cuck, etc. I'd argue the "us vs them" mentality…
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 10:49 PM
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"People change" was the best warning i received prior to getting married. I cannot speak for other married men but yeah who i married changed overtime. Imma keep it 100 and admit i absolutely adored who my wife was when we started dating. It's all the outside influences that changed her overtime. How could that not happen to women? The constant celebration of mediocrity, blind praise from simps, etc. that eventually gets to their head and they believe because they breath they are a "gift" to the…
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 09:52 PM
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"By nature of definition only the coward is capable of the highest heroism."
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 09:13 PM
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I'm 99.9% confident RPR is "Red Pill Rage"
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 06:59 PM
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A married MGTOW is an oxymoron but yes as paradoxical as it sounds the MGTOW philosophy can coexist with marriage. By the time I discovered Sandman on Youtube like in 2017? I had already been married for like 6 years or so. When I was listening to Red Pill content I didn't "dismiss" it because I was married, I accepted it as the most likely outcome of most relationships. You see when you are a married man women treat you differently so you get to see a side of female nature single men don't see.…
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 06:58 PM
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Once you get past RPR life gets so much better to be honest. You don't realize how much it's holding you down like gravity until you start to take flight.
/r/MGTOW204/05/20 01:45 PM
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It went well. Watched Kengan Ashura on Netflix. Been awhile since i seen an anime i enjoyed. Went for a walk at a park to enjoy the nice weather. I also got the Platinum trophy in the Final Fantasy VII Remake
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 01:33 PM
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This is unintentionally quite the conundrum. On one hand there are plenty of subs dedicated to dating but the asker will most likely get "blue pill" responses. So there might be a reason to ask such questions in a place like this for the different perspective. I think the the OP's intent should be considered first and foremost. Like if it's just one of those posts, more or less, ranting about how "women suck" then yeah I don't think the sub needs that. If it's one of those anecdotal "cautionary …
/r/MGTOW203/05/20 03:04 PM
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The Free Agent Lifestyle by Coach Greg Adams.
/r/MGTOW01/05/20 02:26 PM
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Asking MGTOWs how to date women is just as futile as asking a body positive person about their workout routine.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 02:15 PM
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Thank you for your profound insight. I hope you have a wonderful day!
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 04:33 PM
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Absolutely false. It's true only ONE of us constantly demeans the other, and insults them, looking down their noses at them as something less than they are. Its primarily r/MGTOW. Let's not forget when the sub was nuked and people came here seeking refuge immediately started talking shit about this sub. Also I have recent receipts too about this very thread: "They have no interesting topics, they aren't really going their own way, they spend more time talking shit about mgtow than mgtow does abo…
/r/MGTOW228/04/20 10:14 AM
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Read the comments. Expected response boiling down to "They am no true Red Pill because (insert arbitrary reasons) but we are true Red Pill." This appears to be common behavior within the manosphere as a way to deal with cognitive dissonance. All nuance thrown out the window and the individuals, ironically, attempt to use the same shaming tactics the are critical if women doing. This is why MGTOW shouldn't be seen as a movement but instead a self improving philosophy.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 02:50 PM
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-->My key focus in life is to be the best parent I can be for my son. As such I will have to improve in a broad area of skills. I started with working out/being more active (which is fine because I like it) but then I have to move on to better diet choices so I can lead by example. A tough fact I had to acknowledge was that to give my son the best possible chance, statistically speaking, he needs both his mother and father involved in his life. I am someone that prefers to do things solo if poss…
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 10:04 PM
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It's kinda natural you stopped following that stuff to be honest. What i have learned is if you are trying to create something it takes time...and all that time you spend in another's creation is time that could have been spent working on your creation. Either you spend time creating content or spend time consuming content. ...and that's why my kinetic novel has been on a standstill since December. I still have a bunch of drawings to ink but been too busy playing the Final Fantasy 7 remake and n…
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 09:12 AM
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I'm a dinosaur in internet years since i used to use Myspace but i jumped ship when Facebook took over. I got to see first-hand how much of a time sink it was scrolling through my feed on my blackberry phone after high school. I seen how first-hand how both men and women i went to school with was attention whores. They would post some cryptic "I'm lonely/depressed" and then when i hit them up in private messages they were just fine. I watched as i would try to post happy birthday on people's wal…
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 09:02 AM
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Honestly if you want self esteem you need to invest time in yourself. At 17 years old you have plenty of time to improve your life. Suggestion 1.) Finding a physical activity you enjoy will do wonders for you. Running, Lifting weights, martial arts, etc. will help improve your overall quality of life. Commit yourself to do a 90 day challenge. IT doesn't have to be complex. It could be as simple as doing a set amount of push ups, a set amount of sit ups and jumping jacks. It won't happen overnigh…
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 03:47 AM
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I don't mind you asking. What happened next? I eventually grew a pair and told her if she insisted on acting like she was single I would make her single. I suspected foul play and was persistent in my pursuit of truth. Of course she tried to deny it but I wore her down and early Christmas morning I was gifted my wife's confession she was cheating. She swore up and down it was just an emotional affair and sex never happened (Needless to say I didn't believe her and assumed they were fucking) I ha…
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 03:27 AM
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Q1: Do you find you can kick the bag freely or do you have to kick it from one exact angle? A: I actually learned you really don't need that much space to kick. I will admit it looks confined in pictures but honestly when you think about it you have less space when you are kicking kick shields, pads, sparring partners, etc. However keep in mind I am speaking specifically from a Muay Thai perspective. The way we do our kicks may be different from how you do your roundhouses. Generally speaking th…
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 03:37 PM
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Hello OP, First let me start off by saying "it's always darkest before dawn." You have been in a less than favorable situation so it's fair to be a bit depressed (especially when your world comes crashing in) but know that it is only temporary. I remember feeling depressed and alone when I went through my situation but if I could get past my situation then I know you will get past this. Everyone falls in life, you just gotta brush yourself off and get back up. Best you burn the bridge with her p…
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 03:40 PM
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Goal #1: FINALLY complete my home gym and start training again -Phase 1: I bought 3 horse stall mats from Tractor Supply Company so I now have the flooring complete. Been dragging my feet on this for years. -Phase 2: I'm waiting on my 5ft Hayabusa heavy bag to be delivered to replace my 4ft UFC heavy bag I bought like 6 years ago. My current 4ft bag is "serviceable" but my boxing gloves, headgear and shin guards are all Hayabusa so...figured it would be nice to have a Hayabusa heavy bag as well.…
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 04:32 PM
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OMG thank you! I love stuff like this.
/r/MGTOW213/03/20 04:21 PM
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1.) What's your take in all of this? r/MGTOW is primarily for men in the "Red Pill Rage" phase to discuss female nature while r/MGTOW2 is for those beyond the "Red Pill Rage" to discover their purpose or just enjoy life in general. 2.) Do any of you guys participate in both subs, and if so, why? I have participated in both subs but I prefer MGTOW2. It's the better place for a more nuanced discussion(s). 3.) Have you noticed any differences? Yes there is a MAJOR difference between the 2 subs. -I …
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 11:37 PM
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Yeah my wife ba dum tsss
/r/MGTOW210/03/20 08:21 PM
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I have been in a relationship with my wife since i was 18 years old. Over the course of the decade i have spent $1000s of dollars on my wife. All the time you buy food, all the time you get gas, Valentine's day gifts, Christmas gifts, birthday gifts, car breaks down, etc. adds up. Remember this is with the SAME woman. Each failed relationship is throwing money away. Money you can invest and see a return on possibly. Spending $100s of dollars on a woman to get the 10 sec bust...just isn't worth i…
/r/MGTOW209/03/20 08:16 PM
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Undoubtedly an unpopular in this subform (because it goes against the narrative) but yes a married man can absolutely adapt the MGTOW mindset I see people brought up the concept of freedom but contrary to popular belief there is more to "freedom" than just being "physically" free. Freedom is a mindset. For example, you have people who have a day off from their job and all they can think about is what work needs to be done at their job. Physically you are not at work but mentally you were still w…
/r/MGTOW09/03/20 01:40 PM
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Honestly once you take "sex" out of the equation women lose like 90% of their power. If you are not actively seeking to have sex with a woman then you have no reason to fear them because you aren't trying to "impress" them. If you are not trying to gain favor with a woman then there is no need to engage the silly little games they like to play. Then women "just are" and you can judge them on that basis. There was a quote I heard on a video by Coach Greg Adams "When things don't add up, start sub…
/r/MGTOW208/03/20 03:35 PM
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Extremely. I have seen and/or heard stories of guys spending their entire paycheck essentially to "impress" a woman enough to get her number. (as in JUST her number, not even getting sex but hoping to) Your worth, as an individual, is based on how many girls numbers you have in your phone. Instead of investing money in yourself or your hobbies everything you buy (clothes, shoes, jewelry, car/rims) is meant to wow simple minded, low quality women (Aka hood rats) at the club.
/r/MGTOW28/02/20 11:38 PM
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That's where you made you mistake. You are mistaking MGTOWs for incels. Two different groups with two different philosophies. Incels want to get laid but can't. MGTOWs can get laid but choose to spend all that time chasing women in pursuing their purpose be it money, business, fitness, etc. Everyone just lumps MGTOWs with incels nowadays.
/r/MGTOW225/02/20 10:33 PM
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Is anyone really surprised by this at this point? Didn't they say "we don't want another 2016" to happen." All the changes to youtube since then and now these changes to reddit is clearly gearing up for the 2020 elections. I might need a bigger bucket of popcorn.
/r/MGTOW25/02/20 12:54 AM
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I'm going to have to disagree. I think it's more holding the company responsible for causing 9 deaths that were completely avoidable. You bet your ass i would sue if that was my wife and kid on that helicopter that got killed on those circumstances regardless of if i had plenty of money or not. It's the principal. Those 9 deaths were preventable.
/r/MGTOW24/02/20 11:22 PM
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yawn do you have any better bait? I mean there are many of us that aren't even in high school. I can't believe you forgot about us.
/r/MGTOW224/02/20 01:20 PM
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Assuming the loophole here is that the money disappears and not what is purchased...gift cards. A bunch of gift cards and prepaid cards.
/r/MGTOW222/02/20 04:09 AM
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Well think of it this way. All that "wasted time" helped make you who you are today and without it you as you currently know you, wouldn't exist. Also thanks to modern medicine people are living far longer than before in human history. So chances are in your favor to make the most of your remaining time.
/r/MGTOW221/02/20 07:06 PM
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I do not know 100% for sure but i used to give blood pretty regularly and they never sent me an email telling me to stop donating blood
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 09:00 PM
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Muay Thai and Video games
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 07:43 PM
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I have a few so: -I was wrong thinking that everyone (except me) had it all figured out. Like they had a definite plan and knew what they were doing. It wasn't until I talked to someone in their 30s that I would consider was successful told me "I have no idea what I'm doing" -I was wrong to perceive those who aren't intellectuals as "shallow" or "stupid." For example I'm not into drinking and/or partying so I always used to distance myself from people like that because I was "SuPeR sMaRt." The t…
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 03:32 AM
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If you get married this is basically how it's going to go: https://youtu.be/pB8W845Uf1s If i could talk to myself at 19 I'd tell myself to seriously reconsider my decision and not because "I'd get bored only having sex with one person" (like everyone was telling me) but rather how expensive and/or unfair the process of divorce is. There is a documentary called "Divorce Corp" that will tell you everything that you need to know before you put yourself at risk. It's easy to get married but it's har…
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 02:10 AM
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Keep at it man. You aren't the only one. I'm trying to go to the gym more consistently so i can, hopefully, advance my rank by the next arm band test. I'm going to have to start practicing drills at home too in order to refine my skills. It's been tough because i had a, luckily, minor shin injury. I've been trying to take it somewhat easy so it can heal but unfortunately that means i can't do my jump rope routine for cardio because it puts stress on the injury. Also been hesitant to throw power …
/r/MGTOW219/02/20 05:31 PM
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I read an Amazon review that said it had grammar errors and i found my fair share while reading. I think what happened is the book is written more so like a conversation rather than a book. How we informally talk in everyday life doesn't translate well to formal pages. The good thing is that grammar errors can be fixed. The message of the book remains dead on and if someone's rebuttal is "oh he spelled things wrong so his whole message is invalid" then chances are their mind was already made up …
/r/MGTOW216/02/20 05:38 PM
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Look on the bright side, today restaurants are going to be crowded for couples with 1 hour+ waits to be seated. Meanwhile single people can walk straight to the bar for service.
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 02:21 PM
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By definition? No. I think the vast majority of men in MGTOW agree on the no LTRs, no cohabitation and no marriage. That has remained consistent. In application? Yes. While seemingly a contradiction, a individual can follow the philosophy of MGTOW and find themselves in a committed relationship. I think it's one of those things where you set the tone of the relationship. I think many relationships have the "parasite" tone where one benefits from the "host." I would say that is likely the most co…
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 02:18 PM
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Step 1.) Go to a word processer and write. Just get it all off your chest. Step 2.) Find a physical outlet like, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, where you meet other males with a growth mindset. Something like the gym or martial arts will give you a goal to focus on beginning your journey in self improvement Red Pill Rage is just a phase. It's just the knee jerk reaction finding out you were lied to. Once you got the knowledge it shouldn't upset you because...it is what it is at this point
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 10:29 PM
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He has a YouTube channel as well so you can see his "tone". I would say his strength is being able to get his point across while keeping it "family friendly" which carries over to the book.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 03:38 PM
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Honestly I'd recommend letting them borrow the Free Agent Lifestyle by Coach Greg Adams. It's an easy read and costs about $12-$14 on Amazon. Pretty much covers the basics of Red Pill while having sections dedicated to self improvement as well. I let a co-worker freah out of high school borrow the book and he was hooked. I ended up giving him the copy.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 12:02 PM
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Thank you. I definitely will have fun
/r/MGTOW211/02/20 01:50 PM
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Every journey starts with a single step. I'm glad you took yours and that you are making progress on your goal.
/r/MGTOW210/02/20 05:58 PM
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Yeah that's one of the things you gotta be careful about. It's easy to plateau when you find people who agree with you. Getting together in groups and participating in the "blame game" ultimately gets you no where.
/r/MGTOW210/02/20 03:36 PM
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Honestly bro don't miss the forest for the trees. Learn what you can from the MGTOW philosophy, apply it to your life and the rest will fall into place. People get so caught up in "labels" on the internet they forget once you step outside into the real world nobody gives a shit if you are MGTOW, MSTOW, incel, etc. All they see is the improvement. That's what matter in my opinion.
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 04:05 AM
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From what i can tell there was a rise in "involuntary celibates" whom I'm assuming are often younger men (in high school or starting college) who discovered the Red Pill and made their way to MGTOW. I personally have nothing against these individuals but it seems (to me) they are stuck in the "Red Pill Rage" phase and cope by posting memes about women. Not knocking it but it does have a self life so mileage will vary. My hypothesis is that the "involuntary celibates" identify with the label of M…
/r/MGTOW208/02/20 06:53 PM
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I think it's less about the woman and more a matter of respect (or lack thereof) It's one thing if the other genuinely guy "didn't know" like if the woman was lying or whatever. I think that's cases where the woman actually gets the blame. However in cases where the guy KNEW and STILL chose to do something and possibly talks shit to you? That's disrespectful and what actually causes the fight in my opinion. (I used to watch this show called "cheaters" because the confrontations were entertaining…
/r/MGTOW208/02/20 03:57 AM
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I spent my fair share of time arguing aginst ideologues. I was following gamergate and was watching a lot of "anti SJW" content on YouTube. What made it easy to walk away was knowing that the internet is not an accurate representation of the "real world" where people just go to work so they can pay their bills. I will admit the pendulum has swung far to the left in the recent years so it's only a matter of time before it swings to the right. Glad you got out of the red pill rage phase. I'm sure …
/r/MGTOW207/02/20 02:30 PM
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Hmm...I don't know. I think it would be more accurate to say humans advanced in technology so much because money was involved. Monogamy was most likely a not a significant factor. It's not where men are "wifing up" promiscuous women its where they are accidentally "knocking up" promiscuous women. Many men rather go after easy women and promiscuous women are passed around. If she gets pregnant and has a kid afterwards she's STILL going to be passed around. Single moms are low hanging fruit that m…
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 10:04 PM
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1.) My Red Pill Rage phase was probably a year or two. I realized it was a problem when i had innate urges to "lash out" at my wife even if she legit had done nothing. I'm a reserved person with my emotions under control so the sudden spike of negativity when thinking or writing about my wife was a clear indicator. 2.) I acknowledged that while it was ok to have negative emotions about what my wife did the negativity shouldn't consume me. I shouldn't permanently become a "negative nancy." So i s…
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 09:02 PM
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Back then? In the current age the "tribe" raising the children is the government via the public school system. Just stop and look how American society works. -Kindergarten - 12th grade (ages 5 - 18): Glorified mandatory "daycare" to keep the kids off the street, teach basic citizenship/socialization and supervised by adults up until they are adults. College (ages 18-22/24): Optional glorified "daycare" to keep the new high school graduates busy for 4-6 years (accumulating debt as they go) to kee…
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 03:35 PM
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I've only been in 3 romantic relationships prior to marriage all of which were online via Myspace back when i was in high school. May be an unpopular opinion here but being in a relationship was fun. There is this excitement as as you get to know each other. The girl/woman is enthusiastic to be with you or around you. ...then the honey moon period ends. You know each other, you heard all the relevant stories, etc. The enthusiasm to be with you or around you slowly vanishes with time until you se…
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 02:11 PM
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It does make sense OP. Humans have a tendency to do what feels good and avoid what doesn't feel good. For the vast majority of males/females sex feels good. So much so countless people have gone through great lengths to get sex even when logically they knew it wasn't worth it. Since women are primarily driven by emotions they go after who ever makes them feel good. Due to the fleeting nature of emotions multiple men make women feel good. From an evolutionary standpoint it makes more sense for a …
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 11:54 PM
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Coach Greg Adams is my personal favorite. He covers a variety of topics that are relevant to men of all ages.
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 11:14 PM
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I'm a guy that can appreciate the troll nature of your prank however...I wouldn't do it. Personally i think the best "revenge" is to be both successful and happy. The empty egg carton will hit her for one day and she can play victim about it to get validation. You essentially being "the one that got away" will potentially be a long lasting burn. Best part is all you have to do is live your life to the fullest. Women seem to "stalk" men via social media so...just post how awesome your life is fro…
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 01:51 PM
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MGTOW is the philosophy that, contrary to popular belief of society, men have purpose in life outside of being a workhorse or a provider. That men have aspirations, goals, hobbies, etc. in life they wish to actively pursue that are independent of women and/or having sex. Many men often put their endeavors on the back burner (if not abandon them all together) seeking to get the approval of women via relationships and/or marriage. Both of which takes time and/or resources away from men that they c…
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 01:42 PM
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Yes absolutely get a life before considering getting a girlfriend. The last thing you want to do is make your girlfriend your "life" It's a mistake many guys make (including myself back in the day) Just become familiar of female nature to protect youself. If you have a life before dating you have the freedom to "not take no shit" when it comes to her because if you leave her you will immediately have more time and money to do what you want to do.
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 01:23 PM
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1.) Women tend not to give you "relationship equity" meaning no matter how much you have done in the past, you are only as good as the last thing you did for her (aka "what have you done for me lately") 2.) Adopt the "expect the worst but hope for the best" philosophy. Even when things are going good for you shit could be going down in the background for her. 3.) Always have a "contingency" plan and be willing to execute it. Think of every major worst case scenario and have an answer for it. Don…
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 01:11 PM
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It's always darkest before dawn my dude . Keep ya head up.
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 04:01 AM
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^ This guy gets it. Your happiness should come from within otherwise no matter where you go, no matter what you buy, etc. you will NEVER truly be happy. Once you find your center... you'll be chilling and most things won't even bother you. Glad to see someone else who found the Red Pill post marriage reached that point for individual happiness and was able to make the marriage better for them. Happy for you and hope things keep going well for you as well
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 09:03 PM
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I do HVAC on the side. I also cater BBQ on the side. I haven't worked a typical 9-5 since i quit my last job (glorified teacher's assistant) back in 2015 or so. There are perks to self employment such as you having the freedom to leave once a job is done instead of sitting/standing around trying to not watch Netflix. It's just...feast to famine. When you are busy and that money is coming in everything is great. When business slows up and money gets tight... it's the broke man struggle. You reall…
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 08:40 PM
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I do not believe AWALT just like i don't believe all men are "cheaters" who blindly chase P-sleeve. While I do believe both men and women have our own innate "nature" (spreading our seed for men, hypergamy for women, etc.) hardwired into us as humans to ensure the survival of the species...i know our innate nature can be controlled. There are men who can and do "keep it in their pants" of their own free will going against their own nature. Therefore there are most likely women that can keep thei…
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 04:09 PM
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I was not there when she talked to her family personally but i did give her a script to use as a guideline so she couldn't "weasel" out of telling the facts. My wife debriefed me about the conversations afterwards. Her family took my side and held her accountable for cheating. I know everyone was pissed because she waited 7 years until after having a baby to start fucking out guys (guys who had NO intention of raising another man's kid) So you can only imagine the joy of finding out you are a gr…
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 03:01 PM
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Thank you for this thoughtful response. There is likely someone lurking who needed to hear what you said. I agree that men in relationships often shy away from the peace and meaning of solitude. Men in relationships also often get content and kinda plateau as individuals since they stop investing in themselves. What you are saying is not wrong (in general) but my situation is an anomaly. My wife's emotional affair early into the marriage was the catalyst for me to become a "marriage iconoclast" …
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 02:08 PM
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It's because it goes against the narrative/rules. It's the "exception" to the rule which shouldn't exist. From my observations many MGTOW men take the rule as "law" as opposed to "guidelines." My guess is this is how you can tell someone who sees MGTOW as a "movement" versus someone who sees MGTOW as a "philosophy."
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 01:16 PM
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If i had to take a guess it would be because women are less likely to hold each other accountable for their behaviors nor do women as individuals take responsibility for their own individual shortcomings. Just look at the body positivity movement. It is objectively bad be overweight. Period. Yet you have a bunch of women not only celebrating "body positivity" but encouraging the bad behavior. You try to hold a woman accountable for something 100% under her control and you are being "fat-phobic" …
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 09:00 PM
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1.) Women have an inherent nature of hypergamy just like men have an inherent nature of sleeping around. That's just the nature of humans. The main difference is society expects men to get control their inherent nature under control while society does not do the same for women. I would say the the difference between men and women in that regard is men would be like a toddler with home training and women would be a toddler who runs wild. I'm somewhat confident if we held women responsible for the…
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 02:43 PM
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I've been married 9 years so he has me beat by 4 years but this is, overall, I believe this is an accurate overview of what to expect about life post marriage. -Sex becomes less special because you pretty much have access to it all the time. Sometimes you will either be to tired to make an effort or just wanna rub one out instead. When it comes to cheating, I think only a very few select marriages don't deal with infidelity. When you been married for a long time it's not even like it's always wi…
/r/MGTOW02/02/20 07:05 PM
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I also practice Muay Thai. If you enjoy it then you should consider a trip to Thailand to train. Why did i go my own way? I remember growing up everyone told me that i would outgrow my hobbies (Cartoons, video games, toys, etc.) once i got into girls but... didn't happen for me. This was highlighted because i got married at 19 and everybody was like "you are married? you missed out on so much with dating" then would attempt to convince me of my mistake and just highlight problems with dating wom…
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 05:19 PM
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Unfortunately I have the misfortune to have experience in that department. In my case my own family made excuses for my cheating wife while basically expecting me to be a "better husband" by stop spending money on my hobbies/interests, stop wearing the clothes that I like and take her out more. So my family's "solution" was pretty much "Oh it's obvious why your wife cheated. It's you! Have you tried NOT being yourself? That's the only way your wife will want you" LMAO Oh those were such fun time…
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 12:04 AM
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Was married for 8 years when I discovered my wife's infidelity. I'm always curious to see how men deal with infidelity to compare and contrast their methods to mine. Kind of like solving a puzzle then being curious about other people's methods to solve it. I look forward to reading it.
/r/MGTOW201/02/20 11:51 PM
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It's something about stories like this where the person hits rock bottom then climbs their way back up that are real inspiring. Reminds me of the quote, "it's always darkest before dawn" Proud of you for overcoming your obstacles.
/r/MGTOW201/02/20 11:46 PM
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I'm confident there are many men out there that we don't hear about using what they learned from MGTOW to better their quality of life. If they can do it then you can. Good luck in your endeavors!
/r/MGTOW201/02/20 04:10 AM
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What made you want to get into blacksmithing? I mean if I'm playing a game like Elder Scrolls I tend to forge my own armor/weapons so I invest in improving my blacksmithing skill. I'd love to hear how you go started if you don't mind sharing your story.
/r/MGTOW201/02/20 02:44 AM
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You need a goal to work towards. Without some sort of end game you will simply be drifting in the wind. Think of what areas you want to self improve. If you are "out of shape" commit yourself to a fitness plan. If you are trying to get your money right commit yourself to a budget. If you are trying to become more social then commit yourself to attending a meetup group. For me personally, reading the "Free Agent Lifestyle" from Coach Greg Adams has helped me and I'm trying to apply some principle…
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 03:33 PM
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I totally agree about getting your money right. I can only imagine how many men are still in unsalvageable marriages due to financial reasons.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 01:28 PM
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I think this is also excellent advice. If your marriage is a essentially a boat with "more holes than swiss cheese" then cut your loses and abandon ship. Life's too short to be miserable.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 01:26 PM
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We have history since I've known my wife since my junior year in high school. I believe everyone deserves at chance of redemption. We all makes mistakes however it's what we do afterwards that matters. I, begrudgingly, gave my wife the opportunity of redemption assuming she would fail but she has been proving me wrong ever since. How long that will last i cannot say but I'mma enjoy it while it lasts.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 01:15 PM
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Yes. I could do everything you listed if that's what i really wanted to do. Just like when i went to Thailand for 2 weeks to train. For shits and giggles i asked my wife what she thought about me going on the trip and her words were basically, "I already know you are going to do whatever you want to do so I don't know why you asking me what i think." I know that sounds like bullshit. It's the truth though. I know there were guys at the gym that said their wife would not allow them to go and i re…
/r/MGTOW230/01/20 03:01 PM
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From the choices available my vote is on pump and dump. 1.) Sex feels better than fapping (to me) 2.) The more i learn about female nature during the whole "pump and dump" phase the greater potential i have to help men by exposing female nature with actually experiences. The impact of the message is often determined by the messenger. If i go monk then my warnings wouldn't hold as much weight and the overall potential of men i could help would be less as a result
/r/MGTOW230/01/20 02:24 PM
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Who says i don't believe in the advice? lol This advice is what I, personally, did. I just took out all the specific variables of MY life so that the advice could reach a broader audience. If i DIDN'T do that then how useful would my advice really be?
/r/MGTOW230/01/20 02:10 PM
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I can see why that would suck. First you make your wife the center of your world and she betrays you. You get devastated then find a new purpose by making your daughter the center of your world and then she also betrays you...leaving you floating in a void without a purpose in life. I'll definitely keep this in mind in case i run into someone going through this in the future. Sounds like a real shitty position to be in.
/r/MGTOW230/01/20 01:54 PM
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Just be like "I'm happy for you and all but... considering a lot of women commit paternity fraud you might wanna get that test before you make any long standing decisions. I'm not saying this to be an asshole, I'm saying this because i got your back. Shit can happen to anybody so let's make sure it ain't happening to you."
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 09:35 PM
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The modern relationship dynamic is not natural in nature. If i am being 100% honest it makes no sense for humans, as a species, to be monogamous. The world has many dangers and the only reason we as a species made it this far is due to men's innate desire to spread their seed and women's hypergamous nature. The way i see it when you look at culture, religion, society, etc. was meant to keep our innate human nature in check. Men are supposed to be responsible. Women are supposed to keep their leg…
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 09:23 PM
1

Don't know your area but why not try to get hired as a HVAC helper so you can see what the job is like? There is money in it but you potentially have to put up with attic heat and being nimble enough to crawl in tight spaces. Depending on how old you are and how good of shape you are in, it does create wear and tear on the body. A positive is if you are somewhere hot you will always have a job with HVAC. Summers are busy and in the winter it slows down.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 09:03 PM
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Protip: Get a coin and flip it. Heads: If that is your son then you need be the best father you can be, for his sake. Knowing that any harm to befall the mother will indirectly harm your son. At bare minimum just be cordial with the mother (for his sake) and commit yourself to "getting your shit together" Tails: Abandon your son and leave him at the mercy of the mother. After the coin toss of you are satisfied with the result then do it. If you are not satisfied with the result then you know wha…
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 08:50 PM
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My condolences about your sister. Make the most out of the time she has left as not to have regrets later in life. As for that girl just be glad she showed her true colors before you invested significant attention, time and/or money. Bullet dodged.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 08:37 PM
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"By nature of definition only the coward is capable of the highest heroism."
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 08:27 PM
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This is because my advice is moreso "general advice" because I do not know the context of people's marriage situation. There is no "one size fits all" solution. I gave what I thought was the best advice for men as far as self improvement goes so they can discover what is important in their lives and act accordingly. I understand what you are saying and I completely agree. However the context for my situation is different. If I were in a scenario where my wife was toxic and the marriage was unsal…
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 08:05 PM
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Hopefully the divorce wasn't too bad for bro. Don't want you to end up like those guys who divorce then commit suicide.
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:55 PM
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The MGTOW purists don't bother me lol I found my inner peace so I'm chilling. The MGTOW purists are needed to kind of gatekeep some of the rift raft. The core message of MGTOW doesn't need to be watered down too much otherwise it will become a failure like feminism. After all if EVERYONE is a feminist that means NOBODY is a feminist. Of course because life likes to laugh at me, my wife decided to cheat AFTER having our son. The kicker was that I finally decided to have a kid with her because she…
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:54 PM
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If water isn't wet then you are about to collapse my already fragile understanding of the outside world. Y U DOING THIS TO ME!?! >_<
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:36 PM
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It's all good bro. Different strokes for different folks. There is a risk that comes with making friends. A lot of shitty people out there. I should know. My wife's first affair was with a mutual friend from high school. He had pretty much knew us for the entirety of our relationship and I heard he was doing some 'ol bullshit. My mistake was thinking my wife was smarter than to fall for his crap given his history of doing it but...nope lol
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:35 PM
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It is rough. Wife did something similar. Once pandora's box is opened there is no closing it. One of the punishments I had for my wife was to go to each of my immediate family members (along with her mother and her immediate family) and tell them what she did so she could see first hand how she ruined the marriage and the family.
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:29 PM
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Everyone tends to think the "grass is greener on the other side" but in reality "the grass is greener where you water it." My wife has had 2 physical affairs. One with my former friend from high school and the second time my wife cheated it was with a guy at work. I guess where our stories diverge is that my wife, ultimately, didn't want to get a divorce. I did see glimpses of that jealous, spiteful, etc. domineering nature. Was not a fan. In the end, my wife desperately tried to monkey branch b…
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:25 PM
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Much appreciated. Playing by your own terms and prioritizing what makes you happy is the best approach to life. You only live once so why not do what you want and be happy?
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:02 PM
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No problem. If even one person can learn from my past mistakes then I have done my job. Society definitely catches a lot of men with the "okie doke" but luckily many men are waking up and sharing their experiences/wisdom online.
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 06:59 PM
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After discovering MGTOW I decided to do my due diligence. I've considered the pros/cons of my situation. I've mentally prepared myself for "worst case scenario" because that is always a possibility. I'm not falling for that "happily ever after" bullshit again, ya boi got contingencies in place lol Even when my marriage was at it "worst" back in 2012 it is pale in comparison to the nightmare stories out there. For example I have been to the point where the mere presence of my wife would annoy me …
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 06:41 PM
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Yes I do have a son. As a double whammy, my son was born with a heart defect (coarctation of the aorta)
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 06:21 PM
1

Well I didn't end by saying what was up but yes I have had the "dgaf attitude" for many years now and my life has been better as a result. Even through I'm married I have kept my autonomy. I come and go as I please, I spend a lot of my free time with my bros on the PS4/Switch or the gym. I'm not "pressured" to do something "special" for valentine's day, our anniversary or Christmas. For the vacations thing, I went to Thailand (without her) for 2 weeks to train. As far as cheating goes the only t…
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 06:20 PM
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Yeah...no. Divorce is NOT expensive because it's "worth it." Divorce is expensive because there is an entire industry that inflates the prices to maximize the amount of money that goes in their pockets (See "Divorce Corp" documentary) Cheating in marriages is nothing new. Infidelity is common especially nowadays with social media. Yeah it sucks being cheated on by your wife but it would be 100% irrational to be like "Oh you cheated on me? Divorce!" because you are potentially about to spend out …
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 06:03 PM
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I'd imagine many married man feel cornered because pretty much everyone is either like "you are so screwed lol" or "your life is over." In the Tao of Jeet Kune Do there is a quote by Bruce Lee that basically says "If you walk into a fight expecting to lose then you will lose" and the same could be said about married men. If we walk into marriage like our life is over...then our life end up being over. If we forget how to fight for ourselves as individuals then our wives (along with society) will…
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 05:04 PM
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As someone who has been married for 9 years i would ask you "Do you think love is a feeling or is love a choice" If you are a man it's most likely that you see love as a choice. When you make that choice you fight against your nature (to spread your seed) and sacrifice and/or suffer to provide for the woman you love. However what you have to understand is that for the vast majority of women love is a feeling. It's all the stuff they see in movies, tv, books, etc. All of which tells the woman to …
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 02:05 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly. Just look at what happened with the anti-feminists on youtube who essentially left one echo chamber for another and became just as bad as the SJWs they would criticize and/or mock.
/r/MGTOW228/01/20 12:50 AM
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