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2	men DO care about a woman’s income I think what he’s trying to get the commentariat to understand is that as much and as often as the internet says it, “men would marry a hot, easy to get along with barista before a mid, demanding career woman” doesn’t actually happen. The statistics are clear on that score - educated, high earning men almost never marry that far down in real life. Sex, yes. Marry, no. For what it’s worth, my anecdotal experience does align with the stats on that. I’m around educated and high earning people all t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/26 04:27 PM
2	The 'Mankeeping' narrative shows that women are openly hostile to discussing men's emotional labor load There are a lot of things going on in this comment, but I can tell there’s a lot of pain behind it, too. Look: a lot of women struggle mightily with the fact that even when the perfect opportunity to be a SAHM lands on them, they try living it and can’t convince themselves to like it. That’s easier to wrap your head around when you think of it as just another job; there’s no job on this planet that 50% of the population is the right fit for. But that can be an internal struggle in part because t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/26 12:26 PM
5	The 'Mankeeping' narrative shows that women are openly hostile to discussing men's emotional labor load Exceptions exist, but as a general rule: men who have kids doing grid forms for birthdays, etc etc are probably about .05% of the population. I love my brother to death; he’s a fantastic guy. But his ex has primary custody and when he tried to have a birthday party for my nephew at Chuck E Cheese during his parenting block - he just picked a time, sent invitations to all the kids in his class, and bought a cake. That was all. Thirty kids showed up at a Chuck E Cheese with no arrangements made wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 07:41 PM
5	The 'Mankeeping' narrative shows that women are openly hostile to discussing men's emotional labor load This is such a funny conversation, because it’s widely true. Men (as group! Obviously there are exceptions to anything!) believe themselves to be much better at leading and planning than they actually are. This is true even in the traddest of traditional families. The husband is the “leader” in the sense that he sits at the head of the table, drives the car, picks the restaurant on date night, and dominates her in bed. It’s nearly always the wife who makes most of the household’s purchasing deci…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 05:50 PM
–	Male sexuality just seems borderline antisocial to me Your odds of autism and low IQ are substantially higher if your father is that old. “Would you rather be an autistic or low IQ individual with a dead father and a filthy rich mother, or a neurotypical or average IQ individual with two living and working class parents?” is a question you could debate, though. The answers would probably divide along “what do you value more, comfort and stability or potential?” lines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 03:31 PM
–	Generally speaking, men never get to reveal "relationship skills" to women. They get filtered out long before that. This drives a lot of male romantic loneliness. Lonely virgin who has never dated still isn’t the average life experience for a man, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/26 08:52 PM
–	Generally speaking, men never get to reveal "relationship skills" to women. They get filtered out long before that. This drives a lot of male romantic loneliness. I understand the emotional logic behind this insecurity. And you’re right that it’s not as gendered as people think - women often struggle with excessively comparing themselves to exes and his treatment of his exes, too. But it’s extremely self defeating, because very few people just stay the same year after year. They change, learn, adapt, and develop. A lot of people jump into relationships and sex with both feet when they’re young, get burned, learn from the experience, and start taking thing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/26 05:51 PM
1	"Both women and men believe that their gender disadvantages them. When so many men feel underappreciated and so many women feel mistreated, it creates a vicious cycle of resentment." → Research I think it’s actually a very good (and important) point that figureheads often don’t “walk that walk.” The image and lifestyle they’re presenting is a product designed for an audience, to make money and to raise their own profile. IE Charlie Kirk may have TALKED about traditional gender roles, women as submissive and men as leaders, etc. But in his own real life? He married the type of woman who stepped in as the CEO of their company before his body was even cold, not the type of woman who baked…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/25 05:45 PM
1	Men need to be a compilation of masculine and feminine traits in order to be successful in relationships and they are having trouble grasping that fact I think people who get too in their heads about this stuff cause a lot of their own problems. Look - being able to cook well is attractive. It’s attractive on a man, it’s attractive on a woman, it’s attractive period. People love eating good food that they didn’t have to labor over themselves. Restaurants are a multibillion dollar industry for a reason. And people eat a hell of a lot more often than their car breaks down or their sink backs up, so cooking probably will win you a lot more points …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/25 04:41 PM
1	Marriage doesn't make Men the happiest group because they are married That assumes A had someone else watching the kid and doing a reasonably well good job at it (if the kid turned out to be a model citizen in your hypothetical) for the OTHER 1000 hours, though. No matter how good you are with young kids, they still have to be cared for all the time. If you’re not doing that work, someone else is. Your argument CAN work for household tasks - someone who’s good at cooking can definitely do a better job faster than someone who sucks at cooking - but not childcare. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/25 10:41 PM
5	Marriage doesn't make Men the happiest group because they are married I too love the “I have no good response to this, so I’ll just make a non sequitor quip and hope to look clever” approach	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/25 05:54 PM
3	Marriage doesn't make Men the happiest group because they are married For some things yes, for childcare not really. Young children need to be watched while they’re awake, so it’s not something you can get done faster than someone else by doing a better job. Unless you’re forcing them to run laps around the block so they’ll sleep for twelve hours or something 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/25 05:49 PM
3	Marriage doesn't make Men the happiest group because they are married If you’re living in a mud hut one way or the other, you might as well have a bunch of kids. They’re fun to hang out with plus they can pluck chickens and dig for grubs (I’m being flippant, but having lots of children really is a free labor thing in the poorest parts of history/the world.) If you’re living a comfortable lifestyle and a 15k annual childcare bill would knock you from lower middle to lower class…now the picture looks very different. On second thought one kid is plenty, or no thanks …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/25 05:44 PM
3	Mothers are the most misogynist group Mothers do tend to be overly protective of their sons, baby them too much, do too much for them, and hate the women they date. Fathers are the exact same way with their daughters, all the way to old cliches about threatening boyfriend with shotguns. Not every parent does this, but it’s common enough in both directions to be considered a quirk of human nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/25 05:36 PM
1	Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women. A child’s likelihood of autism is double with a 40-year-old dad compared to a 25-year-old dad. A 35-year-old dad’s child is around 20% more likely to have congenital heart defects compared to a 25-year-old dad. A 45-year-old dad’s child is 50% more likely. There are more, but those of the toplines I remember offhand. Nobody’s talking about 70-year-olds here 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/25 07:45 PM
3	Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women. Oh, I think that’s the common misunderstanding- paternal age effect is not generally the inability to father a child at all. It’s the increasing likelihood of complications and malformations, which are much more linked to sperm quality than previously believed. That’s the emerging research. In a nutshell: can a man still father a child well into advanced old age? Almost always. Are a geriatric father’s children at increased risk of autism, schizophrenia, heart problems, and other adverse outcome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/25 06:21 PM
1	Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women. The risk increases at around age 40 for men, not 50. This is why most clinics cap sperm donation at age 39 to be on the safe side - men 35 and below are always strongly preferred, though. Age 35-39 is often declined unless the donor is in impeccable health. Interesting sidenote: the risks are sharper for FIRST children born to geriatric parents. AKA Etta Mae and Junior’s tenth child who was born when she was 41 and he was 44 is at lower risk than Brittney and Aiden’s first child born at the same…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/25 04:03 PM
6	NO, autistic women do not mask better than autistic men I’m not 100% sure what you mean to say here (not trying to be mean; I think your comment might just have a few typos) so I’m sorry if this is non responsive. I think some of that is a function of class sizes, though - teachers are generally responsible for 25 to 30 young kids, which is a lot, so the loudest boys tend to get a lot of negative attention and the quietest girls tend to get no attention at all. The most skilled and conscientious teachers don’t do this, but few kids are lucky enough t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/25 02:23 PM
0	NO, autistic women do not mask better than autistic men Autistic women learn to mask better as young girls, mostly in an educational context. Because a little girl who daydreams about wolves all day every day, avoids eye contact, and barely talks to anyone is not actively disruptive or drawing attention to herself - she’s going to be completely ignored by her peers and by all but the most extremely conscientious and skilled teachers. It’s either learn to mask, learn to keep the wolf fascination to yourself, learn to engage with people, etc…or spend h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/25 01:46 PM
2	Having tattoos, being a single mom have very little to do with your ability to attract a high value male So divorced men with kids are considered inherently “not above average”? Okay. I’m not always up on the lingo and categorizations these subs use. You’re incorrect that no women “chase” them, though. Like I said: it’s the norm for single moms and divorced dads to marry or date each other 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 11:22 AM
4	Having tattoos, being a single mom have very little to do with your ability to attract a high value male I’ve been married forever myself. But I think internet assumptions about what dating is like for single moms are almost exclusively from the viewpoint of the childless twentysomething men writing them. Divorced men in their 30’s and 40’s who have kids? They date single moms almost exclusively. I don’t even know how many moms I’ve known who remarried a divorced man with his own kids, but it’s a whole lot of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/25 04:48 PM
15	It’s not creepy for men to want to sleep with or date their friends This is the kind of nuanced thing people tend to hate, but: Meeting over hobbies or starting out as friends is beloved, seen as adorable, and is the origin story of many many marriages…when the guy involved actually likes HER, specifically, the partner in question. It’s when it seems like he’d take ANYONE that the behavior is seen as creepy or annoying. Approaching multiple women in the same circle tends to get you thrown in that basket. Kind of a fine line? Could be said, yeah, but like it or n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/25 04:15 PM
–	If women "hit a wall" then why should we bother with marriage? Honestly? Even nine years is a huge age gap for real life. That’s about the biggest you commonly see. Normal is more like 2-5 years, including for women who marry late 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 06:25 PM
–	If women "hit a wall" then why should we bother with marriage? But if you’re willing to concede that, aren’t you also conceding that all that “wall” rhetoric directed at women is disingenuous? Even the rare men who COULD settle down with a woman that young almost never do. Some will cheat with one, but marrying young doesn’t decrease your odds of that happening. So isn’t it all just theater?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 03:52 PM
–	If women "hit a wall" then why should we bother with marriage? I think a flaw of the “red pill”: it greatly overestimates how many men would be willing to do this. I am on the high end of the socioeconomic spectrum, and I don’t know a single married man with an age gap like that. Two who’ve been caught cheating with women that young, but both dumped her and tried to get the wife back after they were caught. One succeeded, one didn’t 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 03:25 PM
9	Q4M: Why do guys act like cooking & cleaning for your bf is so amazing The government will help to the extent that they won’t starve to death, but that’s about it. In real life: the closest thing to “stepping in as daddy” in those situations is usually grandma (teen mom lives with her grandma, grandma watches kid so teen mom can go to work at Dollar General every day, grandma is miserable but sees no other alternative, everybody just stays miserable.) Nobody’s doing that because they were under the mistaken impression the government would make their lives nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 10:19 PM
11	Q4M: Why do guys act like cooking & cleaning for your bf is so amazing You do not need feminist programming to rebel against mom and dad. The whole “it’s always the girl with strict conservative parents who gets pregnant at 15” thing is a cliche because it’s true. Bible Belt red states like Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Kentucky completely run the board on teen pregnancy and single motherhood rates. It’s a fine line with parenting. If you push nearly anything too hard or as too “predetermined”, there’s a good chance your kids grow to have a visceral distast…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 09:57 PM
5	“Men want to be truly desired” is just code for “I want to be treated like a Sex God”. Usually they’re just two people with similar personalities: attractive, highly social extroverts who don’t like sitting at home, are fun to be around, and have a low boredom tolerance. People who love to party in college usually grow into those adults who are ALWAYS doing something - traveling, elaborate hobbies, nights out together, etc - and could talk the paint off a wall. Men like that and women like that pair off because they’re compatible. They don’t drive each other crazy and they can kee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/25 04:36 PM
2	“Men want to be truly desired” is just code for “I want to be treated like a Sex God”. I wouldn’t have worded it that crudely, but that IS common with the college crowd. It’s the norm, actually. The party boys and wild girls mostly pair off with each other sometime around graduation and marry in their late 20s. The sweet, submissive, and shy girl who spends her time studying and baking is completely invisible to those guys - just like the friendly, devoted, and earnest guy who spends his time studying and playing Magic cards is invisible to those girls. Like settles down with like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/25 02:55 PM
5	If pair bond does not exist, then how do such concepts exist? I think some of it is lionization of an experience they haven’t had - they picture the “first and only” couple as a pair of beautiful wolves running side by side in a picturesque mountainscape, or something. That’s why the animal metaphors. It’s not usually that rosy. People who settle down young and stay with that person until they die often do it more of out of societal expectations, religious structures, or even sunk cost fallacy than pair bonding or love. That’s why “I hate my nagging wife” …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/25 02:35 PM
3	Another blue pill lie: The romanticization of "blended families" IIRC, it’s not made up so much as a little misleading. The divorce rate for first marriages is 40%. Second and third marriages are a lot more likely to fail, which drives the overall average up to 50.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 03:17 PM
1	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment Oh, I see. Marrying someone “below you” (people, note that I put that in quotes before you come for me 😂) with stability as a major motivator is a whole different animal, and one of those dynamics that almost never works out long term. Either resentment and road-not-taken leaks in over time or it shows up immediately, but it’s always a factor. I can’t say I’ve ever seen that happen with a beautiful man, but I’m not doubting your story or anything. There have been more than a couple similar flare…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 02:31 PM
7	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment This is a somewhat uncomfortable or politically incorrect aspect of women’s social behavior, BUT: it’s common for young women to flirt with or show “choosing signals” to older men at work, because his reaction to it is so much more intrigued, excited, and gratifying than what she gets from men she’s actually attracted to. If that interaction starts to get “too real” though, she’s off in the other direction like Usain Bolt. The man usually doesn’t know that until it’s too late. Not pleasant, but …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 11:54 AM
8	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment It can, but usually doesn’t. Most of the time it’s just novelty and excitement. Not picking on men. It’s pretty much the same for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 02:39 AM
8	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment It’s really not. People want to believe it is, because they don’t want to think it could happen to them. But it’s not. That’s why unfaithful men more often than not cut the other woman loose instantly and try to keep the marriage together after they’re caught.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 02:31 AM
7	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment If you think a man has to be at the “apex” to screw around with a coworker, you must not’ve had many jobs 😂 Completely garden variety dead average people (both genders) do this all the time	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 02:24 AM
16	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment Most of the time, the wife was kind to him too. And Melissa’s husband was kind to her. People like the idea of the spouse being a problem because they want things to be “fair” or represent some kind of “justice.” Usually not how that works. It’s just boredom and novelty…nothing more and nothing less.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/25 02:01 AM
55	Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detriment Just from friends I’ve helped navigate infidelity over the years: the other woman is rarely an ugly barfly, and it’s never a beautiful twentysomething. It’s usually Melissa from his work - who is not particularly attractive (often less so than the wife), seems to have a pretty ordinary personality and hobbies, dresses about like everyone else does, and is around the same age as the wife. Something that surprises people about cheating - usually the NEWNESS is the point. Sometimes it’s a deep diss…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/25 11:20 PM
20	Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductive Lauren Sanchez is not anybody’s idea of a “safe choice”, I wouldn’t think. She’s highly sexualized, very loud and bold, and has had a lot of very obvious work done. I’m not making value judgements about her (never met the gal) but those are all readily observable facts. Openly sexual, very outgoing women like that are just plain more desirable than “red pill” wants to admit they are - including for marriage and serious relationships, regardless of their age or sexual history or surgical work or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 02:02 PM
1	If you expect men to be: confident, dominant, approach you first, ask you out first, plan the date, drive you there, pay the bill, initiate sex even when married (to you), and give you presents (valentines, flowers): Then you support and prefer gender roles. Most men prefer confident women, too - even if they don’t necessarily realize they do. Nobody likes having that girlfriend who flips out about your female coworkers, gets emotionally destabilized for hours when she perceives you to have paused on a bikini picture for half a second as you were scrolling Facebook, constantly needs validation that you still find her attractive, and so on so forth. It’s not appealing, unless you lack confidence yourself enough that this kind of behavior from a partn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 04:26 PM
16	The belief that femininity is inherently submissive simply doesn’t align with reality (or even history), and is bad for society as a whole “Physical strength” has absolutely no relationship to “submissive personality.” Ask anyone who’s ever owned a chihuahua 😂 Joking aside…if submission came naturally to women - you wouldn’t see thousands of years in religious and cultural structures built around enforcing female submission. Natural behavior doesn’t have to be enforced. For what it’s worth, men have historically had THEIR submission to whatever nobility was in charge during the time period enforced, too. Typically through rigidly h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/25 10:45 PM
9	Women with messed-up/morally problematic interests are shown more grace than men with nerdy/unusual but not morally problematic interests Ellison thought Star Wars lacked intellectual depth and had silly, stereotyped characters. Hard sci fi folks can be pretty snarky and elitist, IME. They generally look down on “soap opera sci fi” worlds like Star Wars and Outlander.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 01:21 PM
19	Women with messed-up/morally problematic interests are shown more grace than men with nerdy/unusual but not morally problematic interests On the one hand I get this being upsetting to hear, but on the other hand? I took my nephew to an anime convention last year, and I have never smelled so much body odor in my life. A landscaping crew in the California sun at 3 pm doesn’t smell as bad as those convention goers did. It was gross. There probably is some truth to the idea that dedicated enjoyment of solitary and online hobbies like that might hamper peoples’ social awareness, and things like hygiene that sometimes go hand in hand wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 01:02 PM
2	It's not offensive to ask for dna test Because there aren’t very many men like that. A quick google tells me that in legal cases of disputed paternity where the man seeks a test - the father is someone else in around 30% of them. That means even men in messy situations (affairs, “situationships”, etc) who BELIEVE they’re victims of paternity fraud are wrong 70% of the time. In normal situations, the misattributed paternity rate appears to be .8 - less than 1% Like I said…this is only a major issue in internet hotboxes, not in real li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 12:32 PM
0	It's not offensive to ask for dna test Stepkids? Because he chooses to and he’s an adult 🤷‍♀️ Most of the time stepdad brings a kid or two from his previous relationship(s) to the table himself, but for some reason Reddit never acknowledges that lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 11:57 AM
0	It's not offensive to ask for dna test It seems odd to me this issue is still such a hot button to some. You would think the consumer availability of paternity tests would’ve all but eliminated it as a concern. Any man with a debit card can order a paternity test from Walmart dot com for $16.98, swab the baby, and have absolute certainty within two weeks - without mom ever knowing. Not saying I applaud the sneakiness there, just saying it’s about the easiest thing on earth. It’s such a weird internet thing to be so obsessed with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/25 06:15 PM
–	How often are men dating conservative extremist or far right wing women while having progressive or leftist values and views themselves? The youth group at their church	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 08:21 PM
–	How often are men dating conservative extremist or far right wing women while having progressive or leftist values and views themselves? When I got those young women - they were either married or engaged, always to a young man from her church. Who she talked about a lot. I always ended up feeling like I knew Ethan or Zack or Josh really really well for saying I’d never met him. (I know what you mean about the hatred, though. They were generally sweet, diligent, and eager to please girls unless one of their buttons got pushed and they suddenly became fire breathing. It could be a little disorienting sometimes.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:49 PM
–	How often are men dating conservative extremist or far right wing women while having progressive or leftist values and views themselves? Maybe it’s a West Coast thing, but church people here marry young and have kids right away. Both genders. Their marriages don’t always work out, but the post-divorce-two-kids-right-wing Christian lady usually isn’t young. 40’s or maybe late 30’s. A lot of them are realtors. Don’t really know why 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 04:57 PM
–	How often are men dating conservative extremist or far right wing women while having progressive or leftist values and views themselves? Far right women definitely exist, but in my observation they tend to be of types who are invisible to men from a dating standpoint (either she’s already married with four kids, or she’s north of 40.) I don’t think I’ve ever met a single and conventionally attractive young woman who was far right, and I’ve mentored a lot of young people. Women like that are either liberal or uninterested in politics, pretty much uniformly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 04:43 PM
1	Men would not make the decisions they want women to make if they were us. The average person (both genders) is a serial monogamist who has maybe two or three hookups/one night stands in their entire life. Apps like Tinder skew the public’s perception, but the vast majority of women are not on them. Those platforms are overwhelmingly male, and most of the male users aren’t successful. The ones who are function more or less as a menu for the small number of active female users to choose from. I think it’s pretty common for people to assume the average person is having w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/25 12:21 PM
3	Motherhood is disrespected from both the left and the right — no wonder women are having fewer kids There are more programs for homeless men than people tend to realize, but almost all of them are either: A.) faith based programs that come with a lot of strict, “churchy” behavior expectations. It can be tough for adults to submit to those, so a lot of the men quit them and go back to the street B.) Veterans programs that are open only to that specific type of men	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/25 12:00 PM
1	Until men are allowed male-specific and non-feminist spaces the sex war will not end. Membership in Boy Scouts was crashing long before they started admitting girls. Girl Scout membership was and is crashing, too. Children (both genders) are just not as interested in these activities as they were in the 70s and 80s. Which probably has a lot more to do with the increased competition from iPads and video games than anything political, to be quite honest. Things like Boy Scouts are Girl Scouts generally only happen nowadays if a parent was in it, had a good experience, and forces th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:31 PM
2	Men not going to college You do realize health professions are (by a significant margin) the most popular college major for female students, right? Second place is education. Philosophy doesn’t even crack the top ten. That’s a very small department at most schools. Business is quite a bit more popular with female students than philosophy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 04:21 PM
9	Makeup skews the dating market Skimming this, I don’t think men realize that the “extreme makeup transformation” videos you see on YouTube and memes are makeup artists showing off, not something women regularly wear. The typical woman probably uses a makeup artist two times in her entire life: wedding and high school prom. When a non-makeup-artist uses a ton of products to try and drastically change her appearance, the outcome usually looks obvious and bad. For dating apps, I don’t get the impression that men are much less gu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/25 10:41 AM
8	Men should stop lying about having low standards I think you skipped the second paragraph - there are comparable “types” of men who are attractive to some women but not others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 03:08 PM
6	Men should stop lying about having low standards Chubby is one of “depends on who you ask” physical characteristics. To you it’s a negative - but there is a not insignificant number of men who actively prefer short, chubby women. Your friend is probably one of those people who is nothing special in your eyes but gorgeous in someone else’s. The video games and weed are probably adding to the appeal. The male equivalent of that is…I guess tall and very skinny men? Some women don’t care for that look and others go absolutely bonkers for it. It ad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/25 02:19 PM
0	Has anyone else found that Right Wing Man/Left Wing Woman pairings seem more common than the reverse? Probably a necessity thing. As a general rule: right wing spaces tend to be dominated by men and older women (there are ladies in photos of Trump rallies etc, but they’re very rarely south of 45.) Conservative young women exist, but she probably married a 21-year-old guy from her church youth group when she was 19. I think conservative men have to get married when they’re young or else he’s in the desert for quite a while if shared political views are important to him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 01:52 PM
11	"Male romantic loneliness is due to women not putting up with shitty behavior anymore" take is pure BS I think this is something men online don’t quite understand about women: dating is harder if you’re obese - but the obesity rate for American men and women is pretty much the same. If Lonely Big Girl was truly that lonely and uninterested in losing weight, the option of dating Lonely Big Guy is always there. No fuss no muss. She’d have a boyfriend within two or three weeks. If she’s not willing to do that, then she’s not actually THAT lonely. Her single life, even if she’s not 100% satisfied wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 07:15 PM
22	"Male romantic loneliness is due to women not putting up with shitty behavior anymore" take is pure BS I did say “lower middle class and up.” Poor people are a different dynamic altogether. They tend to have a long series of chaotic relationships with each other (opportunities to marry up and out are rare even for women - unless she’s extremely beautiful, and most people aren’t.) The pattern starts when they’re about fifteen and pretty much continues into old age. The women are more likely to be receiving benefits because they’re the ones with custody of the kids - which rarely prevent them from …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 06:20 PM
59	"Male romantic loneliness is due to women not putting up with shitty behavior anymore" take is pure BS The male loneliness epidemic is (in the broad strokes) generally an outcome of increased female financial independence. Less the need for a husband to survive - men now have to compete against not only each other, but also the single life. The single life for a lower middle class and up woman isn’t terrible. She probably has friends, pets, and an office job. Escaping that isn’t dire enough to settle for things most women actually don’t like much, but would’ve settled for in previous generations …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 02:13 PM
4	This is why women find most men unattractive Men definitely care. I think a lot of the belief that they don’t is just straight-up dated stereotype. People in these subreddits still post about doctors marrying cute young nurses. That hasn’t been common since at least the 80s, maybe even the 70s. Most male doctors marry either female doctors, other professionals (think law and business development), or well-educated-superSAHM types (packed schedule with volunteerism, tennis at the club, and trucking the kids to extracurriculars that will loo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 06:28 PM
10	This is why women find most men unattractive Just my observation from interactions with young people: I don’t think men realize how extremely off-putting sloppy jeans and a graphic tee with anime or comic book characters on it really is to the average woman. Add a bad haircut and/or a scraggly beard, and you might as well be a homeless guy on the corner screaming profanity. That whole social proof wall of text is the kind of goofy stuff very online men think. It’s mostly just that clothes and grooming matter to women a lot more than men te…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 04:51 PM
5	Having a terrible baby mama is not an excuse to abandon one’s kids. Wanting to be a father when convenient still makes the guy a bad father. It is very difficult (almost impossible) to win in court against someone in the 500k+ a year income bracket who really wants to go to war. You’ll probably bankrupt yourself and lose anyway. Either that, or they’ll delay enough that you’re effectively starved out - forced to accept a lowball because you’re running out of money to keep going and the other side still has plenty. 98% of the time wealthy men divorcing just take the “throw money at her to go away” approach through settlement and spous…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/25 01:04 PM
–	Men's love and attraction is conditional on a women being young and attractive It’s interesting to read really online stuff like this. I’ve been happily married for ages so sometimes Reddit is such a window 😂 Anyway. Reading your comment. I don’t think you realize this - but women (as a general group) are often hostile to the idea of being a sweet, submissive, hyperfemme who marries young for a certain huge reason: we fend off sexual advances from those womens’ husbands left and right. Truly. This may be invisible to other men, but that traditional provider-and-protector t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/25 11:44 AM
5	Dating advice cliches are also ruining modern dating. I just clicked on that sub, probably out of morbid curiosity. Sometimes I just have to see that kind of thing for myself. It’s a sad place, but a big chunk of the posters seem to be women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/25 04:08 PM
-1	If you have to chase a woman, you've already lost. This is a lot of elaborate mythology. Meanwhile, most regular women just end up marrying a coworker or college classmate she could always chat with easily, or her friend Lisa’s cousin that she met at Lisa’s birthday party and had a fun conversation with about The Office. If you’re embracing all the borderline theology of “red pill”, it’s probably too easy to end up in a feedback loop where you’re attracting women who enjoy men primarily as dancing bears - and miss the way the “normal” people aro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/25 02:17 PM
–	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? I said this in reply to another here at some point, but here it goes again: Unless the person in question weighs 300 pounds or something else really extreme, different people have different definitions of fat. Lots of men prefer women who are overweight but carry most of it in their thighs and butt. Other men think those women are just fat. FWIW, the “bear” guy the OP references never looks like that stock photo. They’re the big-all-over and very tall lumberjack type. Think various actors from G…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 04:26 PM
–	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? I don’t think he’s saying that, for what it’s worth. This guys comment basically amounts to “almost every man CAN find love, appreciation, and respect…but he probably can’t find that with a woman who is traditionally beautiful, unless he’s traditionally beautiful himself.” I don’t know if that has its own designated “pill.” Realism pill, I guess?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 04:18 PM
1	These are the women high value men choose: how does this/should this impact the kind of women average men think they can get? Attraction doesn’t work exactly the same way for both genders. Generally speaking: the equivalent of a thin-but-not-toned woman is an athletic-but-not-gym-rat man. The thin guy equates to the chubby woman. Fat women match fat men. With rare exceptions, noticeably fit gym rats almost exclusively date each other 😂 That’s just how things tend to shake out. We like to think we don’t sort ourselves and looks don’t matter, but for the most part we do and they do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 07:58 PM
1	These are the women high value men choose: how does this/should this impact the kind of women average men think they can get? The average person in the US (both genders) is overweight. Mexico, South America, and most of Europe aren’t far behind. A healthy weight is still the average in Scandinavia and most of Asia. I would imagine a thin woman is well above average based on that alone, unless her face is a real shame.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 07:31 PM
-1	"Choose better" - What warning signs does Redpill think there are for abusive men? She’s not wrong that men would do the same thing. Really beautiful people (of both genders) are everywhere on TV and social media, but not that common in real life. The opportunity to try your luck with one is enough of an exciting novelty that way too many people will overlook anything and everything else. This isn’t that common a cause, though. Most abusers aren’t especially good-looking like that. They’re just average people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 04:25 PM
3	"Choose better" - What warning signs does Redpill think there are for abusive men? Love bombing is common because it works - especially on people who don’t have much romantic/sexual experience, are shy, are often overlooked (Average Joes and Plain Janes), or some combination of the above…but even more experienced people fall for it sometimes. If ALL of your exes are abusive assholes or crazy bitches though, that’s the tell that you’re either doing something wrong in who you’re picking or you’re the problem. Once can happen to almost literally anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 04:05 PM
–	What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ? She did find her fellow wizard out there in the world and I was happy for her 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 04:01 PM
-1	Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner " 60% is 20% more than the other person, not 50% more. You’re not an actual “primary” breadwinner at that point…because you and your spouse are still working full time hours. Primary, for practical reasons, is if the differential is high enough that one spouse is only working part time and has significantly more free time than the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 09:10 PM
5	Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner " 60% is better, but still not particularly realistic. 75% would be a reasonable cutoff to call someone the primary breadwinner. That’s about the point where the other spouse is more than likely working part time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 08:06 PM
5	Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner " For what it’s worth, this confusion is that study’s fault, not this subreddit’s contributors’ fault: “sole or primary breadwinner” covers WAY too much real estate to be useful. They would consider you the “primary breadwinner” making 51% of the household income, but that would be an egalitarian relationship for all real-world purposes. Overly broad categories is a pretty common design flaw in social science research. The number you’re probably looking for is what percentage of marriages have a m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 08:00 PM
14	What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ? For men, I once knew a guy who was extremely fixated on teeth, to the point where a Miss America pageant winner would be 1/10 to him if she had bad teeth or crooked teeth. He was a coworker, so I don’t know what happened to him or if he found his perfect toothed other half. For women, an odd duck I knew when I was younger who spent 100% of her free time playing Magic the Gathering, and absolutely refused to consider any man who didn’t play that card game. She found one and has been happily marri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 09:41 PM
–	The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over men They’ll be forty and expensive too one day. It happens much quicker than you think 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 09:19 PM
–	The manosphere does not care about men's issues: Trump screws over men White men (singling them out here because they’re typically depicted as the “losers” of DEI initiatives) are hugely impacted by age discrimination in the workplace. Canning an experienced man with a lot of technical expertise who is in his forties or fifties, to replace him with two new grads who shake out as costing the company about the same amount…the number of times that happens in one week is likely higher than the number of transgender people who even exist in the USA. As it is now, there’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 05:39 PM
1	women don't like men dating within their social circles I can see it being frustrating, but it’s also an unavoidable part of human nature. Everybody wants to feel like their partner chose them because they’re special, not because everyone else said no. (I think men would be just as unenthusiastic about a woman who seemed to be working her way through every guy he knows.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/25 03:00 PM
2	women don't like men dating within their social circles This is actually part of it, I think. Women generally are open to dating within their social circles, but nobody likes that guy who seems to be working his way through every woman she knows. That’s an actively off-putting behavior, because it makes you look indiscriminate or desperate, and everyone wants to feel special. You usually get two, MAYBE three, bites at an apple before you start turning into That Guy and women start closing off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 02:35 PM
12	Most crimes are committed by men, by no gangster ever had difficulty finding women to share the spoils with The gender war online world is averse to admitting this for some reason or another, but in real life - it’s common for people to date people in their own “sphere.” The guys who work at Wal Mart or Jiffy Lube are generally dating baristas or waitresses, and so on. A woman dating a criminal man more often than not has her own brushes with the law (think drug offenses, shoplifting, credit card scams, and so on.) Every once in a while you see someone who really did branch way the hell out and date s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/25 06:59 PM
8	What's actually a normal dating progress most men feel comfortable with? The OP just sounds young and nervous. If she’s never been in a serious relationship before the concept is probably a little scary and seems high stakes, so I can see her being put off by men who seems to be making big jumps too fast. The problem might be that she’s dating men who have too much experience compared to her, so they’re just not on the same footing in terms of how much things “mean.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 05:34 PM
3	Men have as much reason to be off-put by female sexuality as women have to be off-put by male sexuality This has been studied, actually. It might be politically incorrect or go against personal beliefs, but both men and women do consider someone with a high number of past partners less attractive for a long term relationship. The only notable gender difference: men still consider women with a high number of previous partners attractive for short term. Women consider men with a high number of previous partners unattractive for both short term and long term. https://www.psypost.org/study-finds-numbe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 05:26 PM
4	There’s Different Types of Dating Ability Men Have, One Is Preferred and More Often Discussed I think the disconnect here is the poster you’re replying to is talking about casual dating, where you’re talking about casual sex. Lots of women enjoy casual dating - going out to eat, going on day trips, goofy texting, binging Netflix on the couch, and also sex. Women who do this usually have it going with several men at the same time, and while the guys have to be fun company the bar for looks isn’t on Mars or anything. You see this a lot with young people in cities. Casual sex - as in sex an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/25 07:58 PM
3	My take on how society has failed men and has contributed to extreme red pill ideology. Obesity and inactivity are on the rise in general, and not just in the US (many don’t realize how rapidly Latin America and Europe are catching up.) The “why” there depends on your discipline - could be mental health, chemicals in food, the prices of junk food vs healthy food, the increased prevalence of seated occupations, the focus on standardized tests pushing PE out of schools, and about thirty more theories. This is written about and discussed ad nauseam, far from “not considered” and every…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/25 12:21 AM
2	My take on how society has failed men and has contributed to extreme red pill ideology. Generally speaking: mental health care does work. It doesn’t eliminate the stress or burnout, but it does help you deal with it. Hence, women in general are happier and you do t see articles and discussions about a femininity crisis…even as women are under just as much (if not more) stress, and on paper “should” be doing a lot worse than they are. I think women generally deal with being single better than men do, too. It’s not because they’re hooking up with Chad from Tinder. It’s usually becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 11:50 PM
1	Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex? General you, not you personally. A lot of people get a kick out of posting outrageous statuses just to see the reactions and enjoy debate. Thats why half the posts in subreddits like relationship advice and Amitheasshole are fake. No actual person is repeatedly using a painful $600 office procedure in place of birth control pills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:00 PM
4	The "Friend-zone" is often deliberate manipulation. “Mixed signals” means “no, but I feel bad about hurting your feelings so I’m going to soften it.” When you’re talking about young women - “nice to a fault” is a much, much more common personality stumbling block than “intentional Machiavellian manipulator.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 05:37 PM
5	Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex? Getting pregnant on birth control is not as much of a statistical anomaly as people tend to think. The general statistic on condoms is that around 12-14 out of every 100 people who use them as a sole BC method will get pregnant each year. Each YEAR. Thats a lot of people. Better education around their use for both genders would make a big difference. The most common points of failure are men using condoms that are too big for them (you probably don’t need Magnums. Very few men actually do) and c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 05:25 PM
6	Why is Pregnancy Talked About Like It Should Be A Punishment for Women Who Had Sex? She was probably trolling you. Abortion isn’t covered by health insurance and averages around $600 (in addition to significant physical discomfort.) The odds of someone repeatedly using it because they don’t like condoms or pills are…remote, to say the least.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 05:20 PM
3	Women care more about feelings than facts. Generally speaking, the more you dig into any issue that may seem like an obvious “facts vs feelings”, the more complicated it’ll get on you before you know it. Free speech is an example of that (I.e preventing nazis from holding a rally to avoid a violent riot that causes injuries and property damage can be argued as MORE logical than allowing them to cause the riot based on a philosophical belief in the value of free speech) but nearly anything else is similar. “Facts vs Feelings” in general j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/25 03:09 PM
20	The issue with promiscuous men wanting non-promiscuous women is about his hypocrisy around pious conservative values I think it’s based around an idea that men have to “work at it” or “be something” to have sex, and women just have to be willing. Which isn’t all that true, in my experience. Thinking way back to college: the very promiscuous men weren’t really “better” or more “Chad” than the regular men, they just had lower standards and zero hang ups (ie they would do things most guys wouldn’t - like sleep with a friend’s very recent ex, a sky high or sloppy drunk woman, actively unattractive women, or a woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 06:04 PM
5	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification That’s the point. They probably don’t like him back, but he has enough social aptitude to recognize whether a woman is open to a transactional exchange or not, and focus on those who are. Rich men in the public eye frequently get themselves into trouble by assuming EVERY woman is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 06:15 PM
5	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification In a very weird way, I think that boils down to social skills. Example: Leonardo DiCaprio is clearly good at determining whether or not a young woman is perfectly content to trade luxury travel and public visibility to boost her modeling career, for a few months of sex and companionship. He focuses on those who are and doesn’t seem to bother with those who aren’t. Does fine. No allegations. Wealthy men who can’t successfully feel out whether a woman is open to that kind of transactional relation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 05:56 PM
4	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification I think unless the person in question weighs 300 pounds or something else really extreme - different people have different definitions of fat. The culture and time period matters a lot, too. In 2001, Sydney Sweeney would’ve been considered chubby. In 2024, she’s the ideal. By 2040, that body type may be chubby again and the ideal swings back toward Paris Hilton. It’s a cyclical thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 05:49 PM
–	All long-term relationships require the man to do whatever the woman wants I think that “boomer” style of relationship (two people who barely even seem to like each other, but they stay married until one of them dies anyway) isn’t nearly as common as it used to be but you do still see it sometimes. It’s usually because these people think marriage is just what people do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 01:13 PM
3	Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects? Well, sure. Anyone with money and status will “slay.” Madonna has a steady stream of beautiful young boyfriends, and she’s pushing seventy with six kids and a face full of bad surgery. That doesn’t mean Edna from accounting would have anything close to Madonna’s dating experience, any more than it means 48-year-old Dan from IT would have anything close to Brad Pitt’s. No matter how many podcasts Dan listens to or how many hours he spends at the gym, the beautiful young female interns are still g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:09 PM
8	Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects? Neither were the women into him - Clooney was the celebrity crush of choice for women who were about 40-45 then and are about 55-60 now. Back then…young women were all about Titanic-era Leonardo DiCaprio and NSYNC-era Justin Timberlake. Why do I remember that so well 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 02:23 PM
28	Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects? Not to pick on you, but the average woman in her twenties barely even knows who George Clooney is. Her MOTHER was into him…about fifteen years ago. My daughter and her friends like Timothy Chalamet, Tom Holland, and what seems like five million different K-pop idols.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 12:39 PM
–	Society has given women a free pass for their standards while condemning men for theirs It’s usually just an unquantifiable grossed out feeling. Young women nowadays call it The Ick. I remember when I was that age, the threshold where a guy became “creepy” was around his mid-thirties. Younger than that if he had hair loss (I know that’s not fair, but the attraction behavior of 23-year-olds isn’t particularly concerned with fairness.) If you’re one of those who likes to quantify Creeps and Icks with evolutionary motivators: you could postulate that because sperm quality and motility…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 12:18 PM
–	Society has given women a free pass for their standards while condemning men for theirs This is something men generally don’t understand about the opposite sex: “much older than her” is not a neutral trait to most women, it’s a negative trait. That doesn’t mean there won’t be other things about him that motivate her to look past it - money and stability are the most common - but his age will always be something she looked past, not something she preferred or wanted. That’s why female infidelity is so common in this type of relationship (I’m not excusing that behavior, for the recor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 08:22 PM
–	Society has given women a free pass for their standards while condemning men for theirs I think I’ve seen more debates about relationships with large age gaps since I started using Reddit…then I’ve seen actual relationships with large age gaps in my entire life. Reddit is obsessed with discussing and re-discussing something that you don’t even see happen particularly often in real life. Why is that? Doesn’t the repetition get rather boring after a while 😂 Just so my comment doesn’t get flagged as off topic: generally speaking, neither party is completely right on this subject. Sorr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 06:13 PM
6	Older, single cat ladies are not who manospherians say they are I have no doubt she’ll find more takers 😂 People like that can’t be stopped. Elizabeth Taylor married her seventh and final husband (a construction worker over twenty years her junior) when she was in her 60s. Those extremes of personality are pretty rare, though. Most people will never even encounter one in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 12:06 AM
60	Older, single cat ladies are not who manospherians say they are They’re usually friendly, outgoing, and engaging. Friendly, outgoing, and engaging people (both genders) rarely struggle finding relationships no matter how many they’ve been in before. People excuse a lot of “wishlist items” for someone they genuinely enjoy being around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 01:33 PM
18	Older, single cat ladies are not who manospherians say they are I’m probably showing my age with that 😂 “I have an Albatross around my neck” means something that causes you a lot of problems, but you’re also stuck with it. The women I’ve known in that situation: the father is usually hot and cold in his involvement with the child, just has a lot of dramas in his life, or sweeps through about a year hoping to rekindle the relationship. When you settle too fast because you’re childless and the clock is running, that kind of thing usually happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 01:31 PM
39	Older, single cat ladies are not who manospherians say they are I’m a long-married woman with two kids and a career. My advice to young women on this will always be: if you’re worried you’ll age out of attracting relationship-minded men if you don’t settle for someone in your twenties, don’t. That doesn’t really happen. The women who struggle finding relationships in their forties are almost always the same women who struggled finding relationships in their twenties - either due to extremely difficult personalities or genetics just being very unkind in the l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 12:37 PM
–	Does sex positivity have limits? I had to google who this even was when I scrolled Reddit and had three posts mentioning her. Relatively few women are aware of pornstar publicity stunts, and even fewer would ever think of something like that as having any relationship to her. If you ask a bunch of young women “does sex positivity have its limits?” - they’re going to think you mean something like “was it wrong for Madison to start talking to Makenzie’s ex only three weeks after they broke up?” that has some form of relevance to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/24 03:24 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are For mid-career professionals, it is. For new grads, that field is absolutely glutted now. One entry-level job listing will get 2000+ qualified applicants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 09:38 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are I think most of the things he’s right about are such general statements that they could’ve come from literally anywhere - from a YouTuber to a coworker to a women’s magazine like Cosmo (think stuff like “physically fit people are more attractive to the opposite sex.”) Radicals pretty frequently use common sense statements, a flashy image, and good marketing to pull vulnerable young people into an extremist rabbit hole. It’s a frog in boiling water effect that gradually ratchets up what the audie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 03:29 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are I think college is a good thing if you have at least a general idea what you want college to do for you. It’s not even a bad thing to study a less-remunerative discipline if you have some kind of plan for it (nothing wrong with majoring in English because you want to teach high school English.) But if a young woman is just going to college so she’s not doing nothing…it’s an awfully expensive choice. Actually doing nothing the way a comparable young man would isn’t a great idea either, but let’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 03:20 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are Generally speaking: young men who don’t really know what they want to do with their lives just live at home with mom and dad playing video games all day. He might work a food or retail job somewhere just to keep mom off his back. Very extended adolescence seems to be a lot more common in men. Young women who don’t really know what they want to do with their lives go to college and major in one of those “shuffle a bunch of cards face down and pick one” disciplines (English, psychology, communicat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 02:36 PM
–	Why is it fair for married men to go 50/50 on chores when their wives are SAHMs and the kids are in school? I agree with you there. For as much shit as young people give their parents over things like not knowing how to open PDFs, a lot of young people are terrible at considering how much impact monetization has on the influencers they like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 01:08 PM
24	Why is it fair for married men to go 50/50 on chores when their wives are SAHMs and the kids are in school? Social media influencers aren’t stay at home moms…they’re social media influencers. Her content probably brings in more income than his job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:01 AM
5	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? I think this is pretty insightful. In the past, women genuinely needed men to provide for them. “Provide” was always the meat and potatoes of masculinity; leading and mowing lawns and killing bugs are minor things that women don’t even miss or care much about. Most women have jobs now. And even in traditional families where she doesn’t - she could if she wanted to. That makes the dynamic fundamentally different from 50’s families, like it or not. She doesn’t need him, but she still loves him, so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 04:06 PM
5	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? Femininity is, IME, about 80% knowingly affected or exaggerated behavior. That’s true of traditional women, too. It might even be MORE true of traditional women. But it’s the old Matrix question, I guess. If the man is happier living this way, even though the woman’s behavior isn’t as natural or real as he believes, is it wrong? I don’t know. It’s deeper than I want to get this early in the morning 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 02:58 PM
5	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? It is a thing. Relatively few women are actually bothered by insects, but a lot of them pretend to be just because they know it makes the man feel good to “rescue” her. Opening jars is the same way. Not entirely honest, but something of a victimless crime I guess. It’s not NOT patronizing, but I think some men do genuinely enjoy it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 02:27 PM
8	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? IME The really self-sacrificing stay at home mom type (always doing everyone’s laundry, always has dinner on the table and a clean house when they get home, things like groceries and toiletries just magically appear while everyone else is at school/work, and so on) is usually who creates men with the “mommy wife” issue. There’s a point (usually around age 12 or 13) when she needs to start transferring responsibility for his own laundry, some of the cleaning, and some of the cooking/prep onto her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 02:24 PM
55	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? What you hear gay men complain about over and over and over again: sex is very easy to find for nearly any of them at nearly any time, but committed relationships are almost impossible to find and when they finally do cheating is rampant. Which seems oddly counterintuitive (when so many of them bemoan the difficulty finding committed relationships and monogamists, why aren’t any of these guys finding each other?) but it’s the repeated complaint regardless. Lesbians (IME, anyway) are rarely singl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:33 PM
5	If womens' value takes a nosedive at 30 and they are undesirable, why would women want to marry in the first place? This is interesting, because I think it’s an example of one gender simply not knowing something about the other. Getting more male attention at 30 than she did at 22 is a pretty common experience for women, because a lot of women haven’t started to “feel themselves” as women yet at 22. She probably keeps to herself and a small group of female friends she’s known forever. She probably still wears baggy sweatshirts with Disney or anime characters on them. She’s probably sweet, jumpy, and eager to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/24 05:53 PM
5	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Something like 40% of Americans don’t even have the cash on hand to cover a $400 emergency. Saving to such an extent that you have a reasonable nest egg for an adult to survive long enough to obtain some kind of job skill is way out of reach for the average person. A lot of former SAHMs end up scraping by on benefits as a cashier somewhere, because even if she “did well” in the divorce, the ex-husband simply did not make enough money to set her up any better. Being a stay-at-home parent is hugel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 05:42 PM
2	Men and women pretty much act the same it slightly different ways. Generally speaking - the biggest predictors of a marriage ending in divorce are low income, low educational attainment, and a very young bride. College-educated couples with at or above median income who get married when the bride is between 27 and 32 are the “gold standard” of marital stability, statistically. It’s not surprising when you think about it. Low income greatly increases stress, discord, and conflict on a constant basis. Low educational attainment means there’s little chance of that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 11:54 AM
5	Men and women pretty much act the same it slightly different ways. IME. I don’t think men lie about their preferences deliberately, but women often can’t take them at their word about this simply because they’re oblivious to a lot of things. I.E a man will say he doesn’t like a materialistic or “high maintenance” woman, but have no clue that a significant amount of time and money is poured into the hair and skin on all of the women he gravitates toward. They verbally and vociferously loathe plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures, but tend to be terrible at clo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 05:46 PM
11	Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship? A lot of people hate clubs. Usually they’re individuals who prefer a quiet environment, don’t like big crowds of people, or are introverted. There are women I’ve known for decades who will tolerate party atmospheres if it’s a social requirement, like a wedding reception or a work event, but enjoy it about as much as a dental procedure every single time. The problem tends to arise when a man is drawn to traits like extroverted, social, chatty, open to new experiences, etc…but ALSO wants someone w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/24 12:28 PM
1	Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.) I think the disconnect here (in general) is that women tend to have friend groups, sisters, mothers, etc that they’re comfortable being emotionally vulnerable with - so her boyfriend or husband is only shouldering, say, 50% of her emotional support needs. The rest is spread around over this network she has. A lot of men simply don’t have those type of relationships with others, so his ONLY source of emotional support is his girlfriend or wife. That can get overwhelming. That’s why women complain…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 12:14 PM
5	The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder? This argument is actually just false on its face: “Conclusion: Consistent with many reports, we are seeing an increasing number of gender dysphoric individuals seeking hormonal therapy. The age at initiation has been dropping over the past 25 years, and we have seen a steady increase in the number of FTM such that the incidence now equals that of MTF.” I would imagine that up until pretty recently, transgender people in pop culture and celebrity culture were almost exclusively male-to-female. Pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 03:40 PM
8	What about class? Doctors marrying pretty nurses is very much a “boomer” thing. You don’t see that often anymore. Most male doctors are married to either 1.) female doctors 2.) some other type of professional - think law, finance, HR, business development, etc 3.) superSAHM type who is about his same age, has the kids in a million extracurriculars on track for the Ivy League, is extremely active in volunteerism/community stuff, and probably plays tennis at the country club (this stereotype actually IS real, lol.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 09:38 PM
1	How do you think the world would look if there were more absent mothers? That would depend largely on the type of father - some of them are exactly as you describe, and some of them don’t even bother showing up to court hearings. There are a lot who are exactly you describe, and there are also a lot of apathetic moms reluctantly raising children who show up to kindergarten having never seen a book before. The thing about single dads: it’s highly unlikely that an uninterested or reluctant man will ever end up as one, because becoming a single dad in the first place ta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 12:43 PM
3	How would you react if your son was accused of SA, and he denied it? Situations like this in real life usually play out as the entire family rallying around the son, even against all evidence and logic, so a lot of people have anecdotal “look how much Uncle Rodney and Aunt Liz enabled Mike to get away with” type life experience and think they would never do that. Would they actually? Impossible to say until you’ve been there, but in most cases probably yes. Parental instinct is strong. It’s not logical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 03:42 PM
8	Were Hollywood Stars In The 1990’s and 2000’s Disproportionately Top % Men- And Has It Led Woman To Think They Should Be Dating A Top % Man? Just not that striking to me even here, I’m sorry. He’s attractive, but not to an unusual extent. It could be that Russell Crowe is one of those men who appeals more to other men, and Aubrey Plaza is one of those women who appeals more to other women. That phenomenon definitely happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 06:09 PM
1	CMV: Gynocentricism was created by and exists mainly because of religious/conservative men It is a thing, to some extent, that a conservative religious upbringing can leave women believing themselves fragile and incapable. She was raised to believe she was “designed” to raise kids and keep a house - with a man to lead her, provide for her, and protect her. That’s going to take some unlearning. I’m not saying a man is obligated to show her saintly patience while she learns that she actually is capable of walking across a parking lot alone without disintegrating- I think relationships l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:34 PM
10	Were Hollywood Stars In The 1990’s and 2000’s Disproportionately Top % Men- And Has It Led Woman To Think They Should Be Dating A Top % Man? This is probably your issue. If Aubrey Plaza and Anna Kendrick look like 7’s to you but Russel Crowe and Clive Owen look like 10’s…you’re a much tougher judge of women than you are of men. (Russel Crowe is a good looking guy, but…there are probably half a dozen who look pretty similar working for your local electric company.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:26 PM
2	Were Hollywood Stars In The 1990’s and 2000’s Disproportionately Top % Men- And Has It Led Woman To Think They Should Be Dating A Top % Man? Probably depends on what kind of movies you’re watching, I guess? It’s a nearly universal trope in comedies that the male lead is relatively average looking (Adam Sandler, Seth Rogen, Jason Segel, etc) and the female lead is an absolute knockout like Mila Kunis or Kate Beckinsale. Prestige dramas are usually long on guys like Paul Giamatti and Forrest Whittaker who’ve never been “hot”, but are extremely talented.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 04:20 PM
4	People should stop caring that some women want to fuck serial killers. That’s probably the exact reason the earlier study kicked back false positives - the women were viewing the fictional men described by researchers as “which fictional character do you find more compelling”, not “which of these fictional characters would you be more likely to marry if they were actually real.” People definitely find criminals and crime stories compelling. Almost everyone does. Even your grandparents have probably seen every episode of NCIS. But separating the “compelling” (almost…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/24 10:20 PM
6	People should stop caring that some women want to fuck serial killers. The abstract of your own study disproves your assertion that it’s “many”: “However, inconsistent with previous literature, younger women rated the low-scoring DT personality as significantly more favorable than the high-scoring DT personality.” Translation: young women are more likely than older women to suffer from this - but even among younger women, most don’t. I would imagine men believe this is more common than it actually is for a simple reason: weird things are memorable. Conventional thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/24 09:20 PM
1	It seems like males slow to commit AND slow to break up Not really. People watch “rich people embarrassing themselves” shows like the Bachelor because they want to feel superior. Like I said, that’s why the casting directors for them choose contestants they can count on for drunken meltdowns, crying jags, emotional overinvestment, and so on. That messiness is the show’s main draw.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 08:41 PM
2	It seems like males slow to commit AND slow to break up Do you think people watch the Bachelor because they want something like that in their own life? I don’t…at all. Most people watch reality TV for trainwreck entertainment. That’s why casting directors on those shows look for the most exaggerated, histrionic, and messy personalities they can find - not “regular people.” Nobody is interested in watching regular people find love because it’s aspirational. They want to watch Malibu club bunnies catfighting and getting hammered because it’s hilarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:56 PM
1	It seems like males slow to commit AND slow to break up There are a lot of weird scenarios posted to this community, but this is one I actually HAVE seen to be generally true. I think it’s because the average man is generally willing to casually date or “talk to” almost any woman who’s interested in him, as long as she’s not actively repulsive. Women are pickier about which men make it even that far, so by the time they’re casually dating she’s done pre-selection that he hasn’t. The. I think men are more reluctant to end even bad relationships becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 03:44 PM
4	The problem with the paternity test debate My husband and I are so casual about our phones. If I want to check something while he’s driving I’ll frequently use his just so I don’t have to dig mine out of my purse. And if my dad calls my phone while my husband is sitting closer to it, he’ll just answer. I figured it’s because we’re old. You would think our teenage daughter’s phone contained nuclear launch codes for how protective she is of it. All of her friends are the same way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/24 12:55 PM
10	The problem with the paternity test debate It’s pretty much the same debate couples have about going through each other’s phones, just in a different form. Nothing to hide equals no need for privacy, versus if you trust me you shouldn’t have to verify. Different people feel different ways about this. It’s at least partly generational. The younger someone is, the more likely they are to insist on privacy for privacy’s sake. The debate is largely theoretical anyway. US localities are not going to fund mandatory mass paternity testing. Half…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/24 12:24 PM
8	The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women are I would’ve expected the multiple infidelity scandals Chris Rock has been involved in to kill his “women are loved unconditionally” line dead. Beyond that - almost nothing is truly loved unconditionally. Definitely not men or women. Not even dogs. People will have their dog put down if it bites them. Not cats, either. People move away and just leave their cats there to fend for themselves constantly. Maybe infants and toddlers, but that’s about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 11:27 AM
0	To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser? I don’t think dating app designers planned for the fact that there is a significant chunk of men who will literally carpet bomb every woman on the platform with messages - and being on the receiving end of that avalanche is inevitably going to impact women’s behavior on the app.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 02:43 AM
23	To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser? I would imagine the main problem for people like this (both genders) is that they simply don’t meet each other to flirt in the first place. They’re both introverts and have mostly solitary, indoor hobbies. Neither is going to openly approach the other at a place like the grocery store, and even if one of them tried the other probably would just feel put on the spot, nervous, and flee the situation. (I think this is a genuine struggle for a lot of people.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/24 01:36 PM
2	Why did so many Modern women decide they don't want kids? It confused the shit out of me too when he told me about it, but southern states (at least some of them) have an extra step called “legitimizing” for unwed fathers. Filling out the voluntary paternity acknowledgment only puts his name on the birth certificate- it doesn’t give him any legal rights to the child, like custody or even visitation. If he wants that, he has to go through a SECOND process of “legitimizing” the child, which requires a lawyer and the mother has the option of fighting (tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 03:48 PM
5	Why did so many Modern women decide they don't want kids? Are you in the South? I have a cousin who went through something similar to this once. Unmarried fathers have a tough row to hoe in conservative states that still place a lot of value on marriage - according to him, the courts almost view you as “he wasn’t even decent enough to make an honest woman out of her, why would we think he’d be a good dad.” It was crazy for me to hear (in CA, 50/50 custody is pretty much the default whether the parents were married or not) but in the South marriage does…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 03:18 PM
10	Men are worse off than women in all developed countries. This is so controversial that UN falsifies the Gender Development Index to hide this fact I’m sure this is regional, but I think there’s a catch 22 with boys sports in high school. They’re much more celebrated than girls sports - which does mean it’s the boys who get the huge crowds, new uniforms, etc - but it also inherently means the boys teams are much more exclusionary. A boy can’t just play high school football for the fitness and social benefits. He really has to be good, or he’s getting cut. At most schools, all a girl has to do to be on the basketball team is show up to every…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 03:08 PM
5	Men are worse off than women in all developed countries. This is so controversial that UN falsifies the Gender Development Index to hide this fact She just did. Bell Hooks is the author’s pen name. (I haven’t read her work personally, but I’ve heard of her.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 02:54 PM
–	Jordan Peterson tells young men to sacrifice themselves and endure. Young men should suck it up. It is my belief that men have the right to opt out of a society that discriminates against them. We might just be defining “breadwinner” differently. I’ve always heard that phrase to mean sole financial provider. If you have a working spouse, you’re definitionally not the breadwinner - and if your spouse is willing to work, they clearly don’t expect you to be the breadwinner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 07:53 PM
–	Jordan Peterson tells young men to sacrifice themselves and endure. Young men should suck it up. It is my belief that men have the right to opt out of a society that discriminates against them. Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in certain specific communities (mostly the very religious) but for average people and families, that’s not a big thing anymore. Unless she is Mormon or some other traditionalist minority sect, almost every American woman currently of marriage age was raised with every expectation of working. The family may decide it makes more sense for her to stay home based on individual circumstances (think special needs kids, or multiple very young kids so close…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 06:32 PM
15	Jordan Peterson tells young men to sacrifice themselves and endure. Young men should suck it up. It is my belief that men have the right to opt out of a society that discriminates against them. I think her point is that most women work now, including most moms (70% of moms with kids under 6, 78% of moms with kids over 6.) If your odds of ending up as the sole breadwinner are relatively low, you’re not being forced to uphold the traditional male gender role. Probably 90% of old school gender roles were “man as sole provider.” Tertiary stuff like “protecting” hasn’t been that important to anyone in the first world for a very long time. Most men under 40 don’t know how to fix cars or do h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 05:35 PM
4	Q4W: How do you feel about a guy “expressing his feelings” to you? That’s exactly why it’s so hard! There is no set timeline. It depends on the person and the relationship. For a general example: if you’ve been seeing a woman for two months or so and you really enjoy each other, you think you see a future with her…but you haven’t had the committed relationship conversation yet? Love poems are going to be way too much about 90% of the time. If you’ve been with her for a year and you’re starting to think marriage or moving in together and stuff like that, she’d p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 03:38 PM
9	Q4W: How do you feel about a guy “expressing his feelings” to you? It’s not rare at all. Most women love this kind of thing from a man she’s in love with. I would imagine the men in these horror stories probably jumped the gun. “Too much too fast” is one of the surest ways to scare away a woman, even one who did like you before. Women tend to be cagey about men who get too invested too fast - because at best those men just want to be with someone (anyone) enough that the specific woman barely matters, and at worst they’re dangerous (stalkers, obsessives, etc.) …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 03:29 PM
3	Men on here complaining that "women will call the police for talking to them" are not neurotic, they're fairly accurate, the problem is they project this (true about themselves and their experience) fact out into wider society when it isn't true for 99.99999% of men. I’m positive there’s regional variation to this. I’m in Los Angeles. Clubs in Alabama are probably much more forgiving 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/24 04:01 PM
7	Men on here complaining that "women will call the police for talking to them" are not neurotic, they're fairly accurate, the problem is they project this (true about themselves and their experience) fact out into wider society when it isn't true for 99.99999% of men. To a certain extent, men and women both have to be pretty enough to be really welcome at nightlife venues. Older men, big women, and ugly people of both genders better be either really unobtrusive or really dressed like money if they want to avoid the boot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/24 01:25 PM
15	Men on here complaining that "women will call the police for talking to them" are not neurotic, they're fairly accurate, the problem is they project this (true about themselves and their experience) fact out into wider society when it isn't true for 99.99999% of men. Nightlife does do this. Their business model is geared toward creating the most fun and aspirational environment possible for as many people as possible, so they WILL ban people who just harm the “vibe” too much (the unattractive man who hits on all the women, the big girl who gets sloppy drunk, men who are older than about 35 and hit on barely-legal women, and so on.) The last thing they want is a bunch of customers leaving because they’re grossed out. Anyone who ever said the nightlife industr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/24 12:18 PM
1	Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friends The “locker room talk” phrase came into the public lexicon because Donald Trump used it to explain away some disparaging comment or another (I can’t even remember what it was anymore) and said that men do this all the time. Men climbed all over each other to agree with him. Now, it could argued that these men only agreed with him because they wanted to claim common ground with Trump, not because theyve actually had such experiences. Who knows? But, that’s when the phrase became a buzzword.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/24 04:54 PM
2	Do you ever see couples on opposite ends of gender expression and wonder… what on earth do they even have in common? I think middle ground is the elusive best case scenario. My husband and I enjoy each other’s company a lot more than my grandparents did, but we also have our own friends. I wouldn’t change a thing about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 04:13 PM
6	Do you ever see couples on opposite ends of gender expression and wonder… what on earth do they even have in common? I think younger generations (using “younger” very loosely here. Younger than baby boomers) often aren’t drawn to this type of traditional marriage because the day-to-day reality of it is somewhat foreign. It was more about serving each other than loving each other. Which didn’t mean that love didn’t exist, just that it was a very different type of love than the “quiet day at home talking and laughing off and on for hours” type of relationships people have now. My grandparents were married for mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 02:59 AM
2	Just like #badboy fantasy is a fixation for (some) women, it has it's equivalent among (some) men: The hot, damaged/dangerous woman who is a livewire, mercurial, neurotic but also very pretty. I think “normal” people (women and men both) who get into this type of relationship repeatedly are usually novelty-seekers. Consciously or subconsciously, they crave the excitement they get from volatile people. They usually love the chase, too - because the chase tends to be neverending with volatile people; they rarely stay satisfied for long at all. And there’s also a definite element of plain old like-attracts-like. I would bet money that if you studied these wives and girlfriends of incarce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 11:09 PM
3	Just like #badboy fantasy is a fixation for (some) women, it has it's equivalent among (some) men: The hot, damaged/dangerous woman who is a livewire, mercurial, neurotic but also very pretty. IIRC - manic pixie dreamgirl was just the male fantasy of a beautiful, interesting, and lively woman who (seemingly at random) grabs drab Dan from accounting and gets him to drink pina coladas and dance in the rain. She probably has a quirky fashion sense, offbeat taste in music, and witty banter. I actually knew a girl like that once, when I was in college a million years ago. She was a randomly assigned roommate. She did date drab Dans. She also did have a laundry list of mental health issues …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:12 PM
2	Just like #badboy fantasy is a fixation for (some) women, it has it's equivalent among (some) men: The hot, damaged/dangerous woman who is a livewire, mercurial, neurotic but also very pretty. It would seem Amber Heard herself has a romantic history that disproves your thesis. She had a long term relationship with Elon Musk (one of the wealthiest men in the world) then married Johnny Depp (one of the biggest movie stars in the world.) Both those men have virtually unlimited options but chose her. I have to guess men do this for the same reason women do it. The sheer excitement and unpredictability of being involved with a “wild girl” or “bad boy” is intoxicating and fun. At first. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 05:03 PM
–	CMV: (long) You'd see less guys flocking to the ''manosphere'' if people were honest about the unfairness of dating. These two things might be more connected than you think. When young women are constantly spammed with offers for casual sex, or spend their time and energy getting to know someone and find out he only cares about sex enough times? Inevitably they’re going to become much more guarded with men, and probably much more selective. I don’t think online dating is a particularly positive experience or development for either gender, to be quite honest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 04:44 PM
9	Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ? I’m not the one you asked, but for a lot of women hobbies that can be shared activities are a huge plus in a man (think outdoor or fitness stuff - hiking, camping, jogging, etc.) A woman who’s not into gaming may like playing one with him for thirty minutes every now and then, but the marathon nightly sessions hardcore gamers enjoy are just never going to be fun for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 11:46 AM
2	If sex is the universal "carrot on a stick" for women, what would the male equivalent be? I think the men who believe this are (frankly) so repulsive to women that they genuinely would do just about anything for sex. They’ve never experienced a normal relationship with a woman who also enjoys sex the way most men have. What’s normal to them is not normal in general. They don’t understand that this attitude makes them actively unattractive. No one likes desperation in a partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/24 05:18 PM
3	Why are women surprised that men ask mostly for physical intimacy only, when emotional vulnerability quite often results in judgement, ridiculing, or rejection? If he is convinced it’s a “them” problem and he’s not doing this…chances are, he’s persistently pursuing women who are ambivalent about him. I think that’s common, because some men are drawn to women they have to actively pursue. I don’t think they’ve realized yet that if someone is playing “hard to get”, it’s because she’s ambivalent about you. People like that rarely change their minds. She might give in, for some reason or another, but her ambivalence about you isn’t going anywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/24 04:48 PM
5	Why are women surprised that men ask mostly for physical intimacy only, when emotional vulnerability quite often results in judgement, ridiculing, or rejection? Generally speaking? Different people have different comfort levels, but it’s smart to avoid putting too much emotional investment into someone very new. Doing that is exactly how people either end up getting hurt in a way the other person didn’t even expect because there was plain old lopsided investment (think “I thought we had something going, but then she just ghosted me without a word”) or wasting five years of their lives in relationships that never should’ve been relationships to begin wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/24 04:38 PM
9	Why are women surprised that men ask mostly for physical intimacy only, when emotional vulnerability quite often results in judgement, ridiculing, or rejection? Not nearly as likely as this poster just having a personal issue with being clingy or bombarding new interests with too much too fast. FWIW, this is a very common personal problem for both genders. It usually happens because somebody wants to be in a relationship so badly that they’re jumping straight from step 2 to step 87 with every “prospect” they get. It’s not impossible to fix once someone realizes they’re doing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 11:17 PM
7	Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with? If I cross my eyes and try to take all the strange buzzwords out of this, I think I can see what you’re saying. It’s the same reason women roll their eyes when men say they “date on easy mode” because there are always men willing to have sex with them. Being only some parts of the ideal to your mate is hurtful. It’s optimistic and maybe unrealistic, but everyone wants to be the full package.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:52 PM
4	Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with? If that was happening, she wouldn’t have told him now either. I’m not saying it’s right, but those women (and men) take that secret to the grave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:48 PM
18	Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with? I can see this being so hurtful that it would all but break the connection. You would probably have to try and work through it if you were already married, especially if there were kids involved, but ouch. Men do knowingly get into relationships like this all the time (the passport bro subreddit is a monument to it) but the keyword is “knowingly.” Being hit with it when you believed things were different is not the same story.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:47 PM
4	The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material women In a situation like the one you wrote: if two people can’t discuss something like that and come to an agreement, if it’s necessary for one to “pull rank” on the other…their marriage is probably not long for the world. Inability to talk through disagreements calmly and productively is probably the number one indicator that a long, ugly death spiral and breakup is on the horizon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/24 04:26 PM
9	The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material women There are women who meet his parameters, the problem is he almost certainly doesn’t meet theirs. Young women fitting the above description are more than likely very religious. Very religious young women want very religious young men with limited or no past sexual experience (preferably one from her own church.) Those couples usually pair off in church youth groups and already have two or three kids by the time people like OP are looking for wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/24 03:46 PM
10	The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material women This is repeated ad nauseum online, but it’s not true in real life. Submissive-natured women often have a very difficult time with dating and with never making it past the “talking stage.” It’s not hard to see why. Having a submissive partner is actually a lot of work: you’ll have to provide her with constant emotional support and validation, you’ll have to make all of the major and most of the minor decisions with little input, you’ll have to take over or support her with mildly unpleasant pers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/24 02:45 PM
–	Redditors really live in a bubble, that's why I would take people's takes here with a grain of salt Colleen Hoover books have an audience much older than the average Reddit user. You’ll usually see 50+ year old women reading those, not twenty-or-thirty-somethings. So the girls here aren’t lying when they say they and their friends don’t read them; they’re just not the primary audience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/24 11:50 AM
–	Isn’t it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them? That’s probably your problem. If the women are looking for relationships and you’re not willing to state almost immediately that you’re looking for one too, the ones who stay interested in you anyway will mostly be those with low self esteem. The Venn diagram between “low self esteem” and “bad at direct communication” is almost a circle (direct communication takes confidence those girls don’t have.) If you’re upfront about what you’re looking for, you’ll probably have a less frustrating experien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 12:44 PM
–	Isn’t it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them? It’s not most women, but it is some. If feel like you keep attracting this type over and over, you may to consider why that is. Are you prioritizing looks so much in the early stages that you’re ignoring signs this girl doesn’t have the type of personality that’ll work for you? Or maybe you’re putting up with warning signs in the early stages because you just want to be in a relationship with SOMEone? It could also be a domineering vibe you’re giving off that’s repelling self-guided women and ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 10:45 AM
–	Men's addiction and dependence on porn is because of women I think your hang up here is that you’re fundamentally viewing sex as something women “give” men, not something two people do together. That might seem like a small distinction, but trying to change it will probably make a huge difference in your experience. Look: certain common fantasies are almost always going to be much more enjoyable for the man than the woman; anal is the most notorious (“then why do gay guys like it so much?” Because they have prostates that are stimulated by that kind of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 05:11 PM
9	Isn’t it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them? I don’t think there’s anything wrong with your framing. The majority of women prefer it. There’s a not-tiny minority of women who find anything except intuitive decisiveness a turnoff in a man, but you don’t need to change yourself to suit that type of woman. Just avoid them. (FWIW, you’re better off anyway. Men often find trying to date the “male-led relationship” type extremely frustrating, even exhausting.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 04:53 PM
3	Most women don't even need to go through a "hoe phase" for the 80/20 dynamic to happen Isn’t Mike Pence very Christian? That’s a completely different dating scenario. They put so much emphasis on family, children, and community that a very Christian person (either gender) who can’t find a partner is a unicorn. They would have to be really, really repulsive to an “I can smell him/her from the parking lot” extent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 01:18 PM
22	Why don't women with low-esteem ever go for unattractive men? I don’t think she was arguing that attractive men are never abusive. She’s picking at the OP, which asks why women with low-esteem put up with abuse from attractive men instead of dating unattractive men. It is a very strange post, because it assumes you’ll be safer from abuse if you date uglier people. Did the OP never watch COPS when they were younger? 😂 Abuse isn’t looks-dependent. Ugly men do it to their ugly wives in your local trailer park, beautiful men do it to their beautiful wives in y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 08:35 PM
1	As a woman (and who will qualify as a liberal no less), I feel there are way too many posts here trying to guilt trip cuckolded men to bring up kids that are not theirs. I say I have to disagree with Blue Pill on this one. Yeah, I had not really given this issue much of any thought before, but I’d imagine civil court would be a better/more productive place for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 06:06 PM
2	As a woman (and who will qualify as a liberal no less), I feel there are way too many posts here trying to guilt trip cuckolded men to bring up kids that are not theirs. I say I have to disagree with Blue Pill on this one. That’s not how court works, though. If you’re making a claim (fraud, in this case) you have to prove it. If the accused party’s defense is “he knew all along”, you’d have to either prove otherwise or just tell your version of the story and let the jury decide. Realistically, this would probably be mostly he-said-she-said, with a low conviction rate due to simple lack of certainty…similar to rape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 04:53 PM
1	As a woman (and who will qualify as a liberal no less), I feel there are way too many posts here trying to guilt trip cuckolded men to bring up kids that are not theirs. I say I have to disagree with Blue Pill on this one. Because if he knew what he was getting into (raising a child that wasn’t or potentially wasn’t his) it’s not fraud. He’d have to prove the woman led him to believe the child was his with 100% certainty, which seems like it’d be tough to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 04:48 PM
1	As a woman (and who will qualify as a liberal no less), I feel there are way too many posts here trying to guilt trip cuckolded men to bring up kids that are not theirs. I say I have to disagree with Blue Pill on this one. I’d imagine the hard part of treating this as criminal fraud? Would be proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the non-biological father didn’t know there was a possibility the child wasn’t his. I’m not an attorney, but I am a physician. In my specialty, we have a lot of in-depth conversations with patients about their genetics. I think the average person would be shocked by this, but men often do know and choose to raise the child anyway. There could be a lot of different reasons for that (maybe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 04:22 PM
10	Video of women dancing in an office ignites gender war online I think men getting upset over this is roughly equivalent to women getting upset over the March Madness office pool. Lower-paid jobs like retail, call center, and food service tend to want people busy every second…but almost all white collar jobs have a fair amount of non-productive screwing around. That’s just how it is. Beyond that: marketing skews young and tends to have a “party like” atmosphere, which can result in some jealousy/sour grapes, but it’s also high-pressure in how metrics-driven…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 11:27 PM
3	From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of gender Nagging is a symptom of a failing relationship, usually. The woman feels, fairly or unfairly, that the man is not pulling his weight. The man is either unwilling to engage or tired of engaging, so he just lets her complain about the same things over and over and over. Neither one of them is at all happy. They have to break through whatever the expectation or communication barrier is if they want to fix things. Submission is one of those things people like more as a fantasy than a reality, IME. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 03:45 PM
3	From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of gender That Kurt Cobain type (moody, sensitive, not only cares about other people but probably cares about them way too much, and so on) is a whole different ball of yarn from the “constantly complaining about others” person that I think the OP is referencing. Your Kurt Cobain self-sabotaging empathy is one of those personality traits that people actually admire a lot of the time, even if they can see that what it’s doing to the person’s mental state is not great. It makes the person a sweet and tragic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 03:32 PM
1	If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders. Yeah, that has been my impression of traditional marriages, too. The image of dominance and leadership is very important to the husband, but more often than not the wife is the one who actually “wears the pants.” Statistics would seem to bear that out, too (women make the vast majority of family purchasing decisions, women are more likely to select the family home and neighborhood, etc.) The part that’s interesting to me is why the image of female submission is such a big de to men when the actu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/24 02:03 PM
4	If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders. This thread was recommended to me on the Reddit dash and it’s mildly interesting to read over, just because I can’t recall ever meeting even one Eastern European woman I would describe as “submissive” or “obedient.” They may be willing to play act such for appearances sake, but are they actually? Not at all. Usually the husband makes a lot of bluster but the wife is the boss, is what I’ve seen to be common for Eastern Europeans. That makes you wonder, do these men want other men to see them as l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/24 04:52 PM
–	Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships. Indicates low attraction…yes and no? Women who agreed to be stay-at-home moms rarely mind doing the bulk of cooking and housework. They start complaining, getting “naggy”, or venting online if their husband is doing silly stuff like using a bowl and leaving it on the counter, or leaving his used underwear on the bathroom floor, so on. She doesn’t always deal with it productively, but he needs to tighten up too. The fact is, that kind of thing will quickly make your wife feel like she’s practical…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 04:48 PM
1	Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spaces Eh, I’m not surprised an NFL player encouraging women to have multiple children and embrace the stay-at-home life sparked a lot of rage. There’s a “let them eat cake” quality to that, and almost nothing instantly pisses people off more than “let them eat cake” stuff. Former NFL players usually end up broke. They make bank in their prime (duration varies, but almost always less then ten years) then crash into little earning potential at a pretty young age. Only star quarterbacks and running backs…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 12:09 PM
1	Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spaces I don’t dislike him as a human, but the masses are usually going to be hostile to life advice from people like social media influencers, models, NFL players, etc. These are people with a such a high peak that they’ll ride it for 5-10 years, then coast on it for the next 50-60. Their experience has so little relationship to the average person’s that their lifestyle takes are inevitably going to be sheltered at best and clueless at worst (the average income in the us is around 40k. Most men couldn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 06:58 PM
6	Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spaces Eh. Being an active NFL kicker at 40 is like being a model at 40. It’s not completely impossible, but extremely unlikely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/24 02:56 AM
6	Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spaces The ironic thing about Harrison Butker that I haven’t seen mentioned much: NFL players are to men what models are to women; these are high-status careers that people age out of VERY quickly. He’ll be used up as a football player probably within 5 years, and will spend the rest of his life as a stay-at-home dad coasting on the accumulated income income from his football years (at most, recording a football podcast or something similar.) Nobody likes hearing life advice from people like that. Nobo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/24 10:13 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? For some women, the issue really is they find their work rewarding enough that their lives would be worse without it. You’re most likely to see that with people in things like medicine, sciences, design/art related fields, and animal related fields. There are a lot of “ordinary” jobs though, like accounting and management, that people don’t necessarily love but do provide a level of mental stimulation they’re surprised to miss when they try their hand at homemaking. I think that’s why so many wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:22 PM
8	Women have more options than men in the dating game until their 50s when the game starts to shift in favor of men I can’t say I’m well versed in different internet sects, but I see this subject come across my Reddit dash with bewildering repetition, and there are always huge comment counts. The idea that many 60-something men are out there being playboys is just bizarre. Your average 60-something man looks vaguely like Wilford Brimley, falls asleep on the couch watching NCIS, and looks forward to his weekly trip to Olive Garden or Red Lobster. I have to assume it’s young people who base a lot of their views…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 04:28 PM
28	Women have more options than men in the dating game until their 50s when the game starts to shift in favor of men There’s so much apex fallacy wrapped up in the internet’s obsession with this subject. The average man in his 60’s has a beer gut, very little hair, and significant physical limitations (usually products of natural aging, like soreness and erectile dysfunction.) His romantic partner is almost certainly an average woman in her 60’s or possibly 50’s, who is overweight and worried about her bone density. So many of you spend so much energy discussing, discussing, and re-discussing these dating hypo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 02:58 PM