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I don't think any straight man is ok being without a women permanently, most of the time they just gave up or just don't see another option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:16 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:04 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:40 PM
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Femboys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:33 PM
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But we are talking about no sex all around, no kids would be being born if no one's having sex, that's the premise of the poste. Having kids and adopting kids are 2 very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:38 PM
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How would you even have kids with no sex, I mean I guess you can go like a medical route but that's very bland.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:30 PM
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I agree, your completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:45 PM
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Many of the replies already stated that they'd be friends with women but just wouldn't be in a relationship with them which is understandable because why enter into a new committed relationship if one of your primary needs aren't going to be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:39 PM
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It's not really settling it's just realism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:06 AM
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Nah, men are still going for variety of women, they aren't aiming for literally only 11% of women. Guys take what they can get and hold onto it. Not to mention once you get a certain age younger women can be annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:44 AM
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I think you have a very narrow view of want men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:35 AM
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yeah men don't go strictly for women between those ages there prefrences very greatly and most don't dissmiss you once you hit 26. men aren't afforded the ability to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:19 AM
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its what men feel that women are at peek fertilaty, does not mean there strictly going for those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:15 AM
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you just don't want to believe it becuase your unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:08 AM
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Haha, yeah, no. Women have time and time again managed to find ways to lie and manipulate men out of their wealth, resources, and status, all just to get those resources, and they don't care if it ruins the man in question. We see it time and time again with divorce, baby trapping, and false allegations. I've even seen a crippled woman who had the body of Stephen Hawking get simped over and have men gifting her. If you can't attract a man, that's a skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:35 PM
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No, a lot of men are into the bottom 87% of women, but your hostility towards them will turn a lot of men away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:27 PM
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and it's true that women are unreasonable, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:15 PM
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No, most men are not into women like YOU. Even you admit that sexual coercion is no big deal to men Also never said that, your fighting imaginary arguments. “waters down rape Yes, that's what YOU'RE doing by adding additional meanings to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:00 PM
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I'm not sure why you're offended by me calling women unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:57 PM
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yup, I agree, you described women perfectly. Women will hurt men to get resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:56 PM
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And it's enough women to generalize my earlier statement, you being example of one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:48 PM
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Yup I totally agree. Men are reasonable. Women are bitter and mean. glad we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:44 PM
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It wasn't a personal attack. I'm calling it as I see it. You just want something to be mad about. You're in a subreddit called r/MenAreNotIntoWomen; and moderate it, it's not hard to see where your opinions stand on men. You've been all over the place this entire time. You don't have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:41 PM
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No, your point was that you have no point and are just vindictive, bitter, and cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:28 PM
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Yes, we agree that women are unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:27 PM
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Yeah, men aren't a monolith; some persons instagram dosen't warrent your blanket statements. again unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:24 PM
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So nothing you say negates what I said, glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:18 PM
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My original point was that if you start calling everything rape, it waters down the act of actual rape. Also, this has nothing to do with what we're talking about; stop derailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:05 PM
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And you think randomly calling men vindictive, bitter, and cruel is reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:56 PM
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And I'm saying it's delusion, which it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:39 PM
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Well, from reading your comments your only proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:31 PM
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Not really, It's definitely provable. There are plenty of cases where women aren't even trying to hide the fact that they baby-trapped someone. Text logs, contraceptive records, and clear messages showing that he didn't want or ask for a child can all create a concrete paper trail of the deception. So, a lot of women deserve prison time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:36 PM
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We're not arguing about whether it's coercion; we're arguing about whether it's rape. Coercion can constitute rape when there are threats, force, or some form of pressure involved. In the case of simply lying about wanting a relationship, none of these apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:25 AM
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Then every women who choose to carry without the consent of the man are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:03 AM
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Eh, a lot of men will; they aren't that picky. There aren't that many women who are genuinely unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:41 AM
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Yeah, no. That was never the point. You're completely missing what we were actually debating. We weren't arguing about the definition of coercion or whether deception is immoral; we were arguing about whether not having full knowledge of someone's intentions before engaging in sex should automatically be considered rape, which is what I'm arguing against. Rape and coercion aren't synonymous. Someone lying about their intentions or failing to disclose every relevant detail before sex isn't automa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:30 AM
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Men wanting reasonable women means they hate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:00 AM
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was he raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:52 AM
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So pulling a random comment I made in a totally separate subreddit with no context makes all men lazy, bitter, and cruel? Also, I noticed your posts are hidden. Why don't you let us take a peek at them? I'm sure they're full of positivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:21 AM
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Yeah, no. That was never the point. You're completely missing what we were actually debating. We weren't arguing about the definition of coercion or whether deception is immoral; we were arguing about whether not having full knowledge of someone's intentions before engaging in sex should automatically be considered rape, which is what I'm arguing against. Rape and coercion aren't synonymous. Someone lying about their intentions or failing to disclose every relevant detail before sex isn't automa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:10 AM
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what ever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:20 AM
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those are not the same points being addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:17 AM
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So you want to start throwing people in jail because your feelings got hurt? And you call men vindictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:16 AM
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Oh, so now we're counting force? What happened to “full transparency”?I'm talking about two consenting adults who agree to have sex, but she intends to get pregnant while he doesn't and isn't aware of her intention to do so. She pokes holes in the condom, takes it out of the trash, and uses it, or he accidentally gets her pregnant, and she decides to keep the child despite him not wanting one. Was he raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:05 AM
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You're not going to tell someone every single little thing before getting involved with them. If that were the standard, both men and women would be in a lot of trouble—especially in cases where someone intentionally deceives their partner about contraception or reproductive intentions. There are plenty of men who have ended up having children they never consented to having. By your logic, that would also be considered rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:57 AM
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so your telling me you can't defend your own point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:54 AM
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oof you again, my point was it isn't rape and how putting that under the same umbrella would do nothing but harm. Not if the action was moral or immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:50 AM
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I did, it doesn't change the context of this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:44 AM
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Nope, that's delusion, which feminism is based in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:29 AM
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op's message. My point was that many men struggle to find that balance because they often receive conflicting social messages about what women find attractive. your response No, that "conflicting messages" that men receive are not conflicting at all. What point were you trying to make exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:20 AM
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thats exactly feminisim
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:18 AM
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you're avoiding the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:09 AM
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Didn't read the rest, but I am going to address #3. Yes, there are conflicting messages about what women find attractive. You have one group saying, “Don’t approach us; women don’t like being approached,” while others say they want to be approached and want guys to come talk to them. You have one group saying that no means no and that, after she rejects you, you should just let it go, while others say they want a guy to be persistent and that they enjoy the chase. You already acknowledged that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:03 AM
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Did you really just make a long post just to say that men already don’t do what you expect of them? You’re literally just proving OP’s point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:47 AM
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bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:58 AM
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There definitely a bunch of them, it's good that you didn't run into them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:50 PM
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Yes, because most guys don't want to be wanted for there money and then have her leave once the money is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:39 PM
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Im like the millionth person to point it out but women just aren't fun to have as friends, most of them like different things and interact socially different from men so you feel like your policing yourself around them as a male n thats just uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:02 PM
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Then by that metric almost no one would be able to consent because almost no one ever has full knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:17 PM
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Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:12 AM
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You're confusing informed consent with a guarantee that you’ll never regret a choice later. Consent means someone willingly chose to participate based on the information they had at the time. It does not mean they are entitled to know every private thought, future feeling, or possible outcome beforehand. If someone lies about something that truly changes the decision, that's wrong. But claiming every lie, exaggeration, or regret means consent never existed is a distortion of what consent actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:01 AM
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You're throwing together a handful of real historical issues with a bunch of false or wildly exaggerated claims. No, women weren't legally required to have sex with their husbands. Marital rape exemptions are not the same thing as a law forcing women to have sex. No, women didn't suddenly gain the ability to own or rent property in the 1980s. Women owned, inherited, bought, and sold property long before that. You're confusing credit discrimination with property rights. And no, the existence of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:51 AM
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Did you seriously just say men invented money so they could buy women...I don't even know what I just read.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:27 AM
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Calling this rape stretches the definition far beyond what it legally and commonly means. Rape is sex without consent, or where consent is invalid because of force, threats, coercion, incapacitation, or certain forms of deception that go to the nature of the act itself. Simply claiming that someone might have said "no" if they had more information does not automatically make every omission or lie rape. People lie or exaggerate about all sorts of things when dating—their income, job, age, height,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:20 AM
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Yeah, that's ridiculous. If anything, they're probably going to treat you better while they're in the relationship because, to them, you're more valuable. If someone has an abundance of options, it's easier for them to take their partner for granted because they know they can replace the relationship without much difficulty. Meanwhile, someone who doesn't have endless options is less likely to throw away a good relationship and is probably going to put more effort into making it last. I don't kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:53 AM
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There’s a lot to unpack in what you’re saying. People go through horrible things all the time, not because they enjoy it, but because they think the outcome is worth it. I don't like working a 9-to-5, but I do it because I like having an income. Most things worth having don't come easy, and that includes having a healthy, stable relationship, whatever that relationship may look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:54 PM
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I literally just said that; you're also missing my point. Friends will fulfill certain social needs but not all of them, and never will. There are ways that I behave around a partner that I'll never behave around a friend, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:27 PM
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Never said it was a guarantee. There’s obviously going to be trial and error, but the implication is that this is what’s expected when you’re in a relationship with a partner. What do you do if you’re in a relationship where your social needs aren’t being met? You leave. You don’t give that status to someone who doesn’t meet those social needs; otherwise, the title wouldn’t hold any weight and would become meaningless. The same applies to any other relationship. If someone is a poor friend, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:01 PM
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I never claimed it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:29 PM
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To put this whole thing to rest when you're in a relationship, don't you spend time with that person, talk with them, share experiences, and have intimacy? That is still a form of being social. A romantic partner is one of the ways humans connect socially. My saying humans are social creatures naturally includes and implies wanting a partner, because a relationship is often one of the strongest social bonds people form.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:23 PM
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Depends on if her husband the only one she talked to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:13 PM
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Social includes being partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:56 AM
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I don't think those are lies I do think that a lot of people actually want that, but overall lilith this is probably the first post I'll ever agree with you on, sex is awesome, and we should be more open about it. Sadly, it's not the way our culture is; we kinda have to skirt around it or use heavy implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:44 AM
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Are you really trying to say men are being single wrong? I don't even know how to respond to that. Humans are social creatures; for 90% of people, you will want a partner, especially later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:35 AM
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I legit saw a women say *lying about wanting a relationship with a women only to have sex with her is rape* and then she proceeded to make up some bs about how men would get prosicuted under this fact, I called bs becuase for one no tf it isn't rape and 2 she never said what country and I couldn't find any evidence of this shit happening and if it is then thats even more bs.
/r/MensRights26/07/26 11:31 AM
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no it's not
/r/MensRights26/07/26 11:27 AM
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They do it because a majority of men don't want to be single. The concept of doing something you don't like to get what you want is not a foreign idea, and know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:24 AM
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Consent obtained through force, threats, incapacitation, or certain legally recognized forms of fraud →is rape or sexual assault. Dishonesty about feelings, intentions, or future relationship plans → not classified as rape. You're muddying the waters by making things up. I hate when people do that — taking a very serious crime and trying to attach it to things that don't fit. People like you are the reason some people don't take accusations of rape seriously anymore. Lying about wanting a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:10 AM
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Pretty much this, if I know I'm not going to get anywhere being truthful. Why tell the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:53 AM
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Sex is part of it, but men do want genuine connection as well; it's why most are so willing to pay for the illusion of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:48 AM
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They also don't really care about women They do care, they just don't want to have to go through or deal with all negitive realities of trying to date. Having to be a jester and shell out a bunch of time and money just to have a negative outcome by the end of it, and being burned so much that you just grow tired of it. A lot of men are obsessed with the idea of replacing women with robots. If men had a choice between picking a robot or a real woman, most would still pick the woman; the robot is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:46 AM
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Well sadly, we don't live in a perfect world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:10 AM
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Those statistics sound shocking when they are presented without context, but they are based on a very small and highly selected group of documented cases, not the general population. Necrophilia is extremely rare, and research on it comes mostly from forensic case reports involving people who were already identified because a crime or investigation occurred. That means the data does not represent ordinary people who work around the deceased. The claim that "92% of people who commit necrophilia a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:01 AM
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What's common knowledge is that the majority of cemetery workers are male, and there are no rules or laws preventing men from working in these positions. There are roughly 30,000–40,000 cemetery workers, and around 80–90% of them are male. Out of all of that, there have only been about 8 recorded cases where men employed by a cemetery were involved in this behavior, meaning we're looking at roughly a 1 in 3,750 chance of this actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:56 AM
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Ok so you did a google search on somthing messed up and got shocked at it? what does that have to do with you making up facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:43 AM
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Why? That's already a solid majority of men. Why would a man with fewer options be someone you're afraid of? If anything, it should be the opposite. Since he has fewer options, he's more likely to be faithful to you. Instead, you're choosing someone who has plenty of options and is more capable of leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:36 AM
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There's a reason they're not allowed to work in morgues, or cemeteries, too many necrophiliacs doing fucked up shit to corpses... Who told you this lie? There is literally no rule or law preventing males from working in these positions. In fact, about 60% of these jobs are occupied by men, especially in cemeteries. You're just pulling random stuff out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:28 AM
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True most women won't cause physical harm to men personally, but they will definitely find someone or some way for you to be in harms way usually intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:19 PM
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Came with receipts, I applaud you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:25 PM
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If they didn't then they're chances of hooking up would lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:47 PM
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Right on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:45 AM
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Not really. It's not about having bad social skills; it's just how a lot of men act around each other, it's how they bond. There's a level of comfort in being able to say what you want, how you want, around your buddies that you usually don't have on a date, especially a first date. Most people are trying to put their best foot forward. There are plenty of things I'd never say around a woman that I'd say straight to my guy friends' faces, and we'd all just laugh it off. Constantly holding your t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:25 AM
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I mean I agree with most of your points, work on self improvement and keep trying and eventually you'll land someone or at least increase the likelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:00 AM
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This made me audibly laugh, *please step on my balls mistress*
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:54 AM
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If all else fails, it's time to go bi. Hunting for a rich man ain't just for the ladies anymore. If we men all band together and get with all the Chads and Tyrones before the ladies do, they'll have nothing left and will have no choice but to finally lower their standards. It's the perfect plan. Know your worth, fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:54 AM
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I feel so talked down to reading this post; it comes off like you see men as a tool or a servant. it's hard to tell if your trying to complement men or insult them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:56 AM
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Pretty much this, depending on the issue and what her response was, we'll never know if the advice was invalid or if the person in question was just stubborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:48 AM
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I totally agree, though I also don't blame men for choosing to chase after women, a lot of men have different beliefs and different experiences and if you go a long time without attention from women you'll take anything thrown your way. Primal instincts always win out in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:32 PM
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Then I apologize, I was under the assumption you were female. If it works for you it works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:23 PM
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I would assume you would have a general tangible idea of what would attract a women, assuming you are one, no shot at if you don't know what you want how do you expect the men to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:12 PM
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Yes I understand that but I was asking for aspects that you can control, otherwise you're just saying to leave it all up to chance which is not really good advice if you're actively looking for a partner. As for sex yes casual sex happens but my point still stands, you both are still attracted to each other, if your having sex already your pretty much in relationshiop wise if you choose to pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:09 PM
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That's to vague and doesn't really tell me anything, do you think you can elaborate? Like what does be her type mean, that doesn't really seem like that's in the guys control on if he is or not. What can a guy add to your life that your looking for that qualifies the guy for dating. And if you you two are already having sex enough for you to know if he's good or bad at sex I would assume you two are already in a relationship. I mean there's only so many ways to realistically impress a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:57 PM
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I mean what you described is basically the average man so what you're saying is the average man is subpar. I'm actually curious with no malicious undertone what do you think men would have to do to qualify for the dating market beyond the 2 mentioned factors you already listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:10 PM
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Yeah I agree people do prefer being in a relationship with someone they desire, but the reality is people do settle for whatever reason that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:31 PM
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For me personally? Yes, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:08 PM
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I don't think he means the 100% is a all the time thing but usually in the beginning stages of a new relationship I think the 100% is usually there but just naturally declines over a long period of time of being around someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:04 PM
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I mean the average male could still be willing to spend and care for them so the women could be in it for that alone even though they don't desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:51 PM
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There's different types of loneliness. You don't get the same type of fulfillment from just one type of relationship. I'm not going to have the same connection with a pet that I do with a human friend, and I'm not going to have the same connection with a friend that I do with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:57 PM
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For the most part young men are looking for a women who's reasonable, sadly most women a aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:44 PM
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Why would I spend money on a guy? That's stupid. Because you said it was enjoyable, and I agree, it is stupid, so why do you keep insisting that men are doing it with zero expectations of benefiting from it later? And yes these guys spending money do it without any reason, they are down bad. You literally said the reason they are doing it...they are attracted to you ... Which was my entire point ... No what I am saying it's for FREE. It's not, they're paying for your time. Rather you want to ack…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:45 PM
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I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:18 PM
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So your logic is you seen guys biding and you equate that to them wanting to spend money for nothing? Biding comes with the knowledge that you a chance to earn what is ever up for bids, not nothing. Idk how many different to tell you this but yes, they are trying to get with you, rather directly or indirectly were they purchase things for you as a investment to hopefully gain sex later, don't really know how clueless you are to this subject but it's the truth idk what to tell you. WWhy are you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:10 PM
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Why it's delusional smh, they are ones coming near me idgaf about them Literally everything you just said was delusional. Bro it's the same thing for OF and other platforms do you not see me talking about Reddit and the thing that happended with the Instagram girl? These are not rare instances smh 🤡 Rare instances of what exactly? Men trying to get female attention? Yeah no shit. Blah blah blah, search up pay pigs. Men pay money to women without women showing ANYTHING. simply because she's a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:33 PM
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How...you do realize that they are paying for nudes right?... Do you know what OF girls do? You're bringing up girls who are getting paid to take there clothes off, the men are still getting what they want the relationship statues is irrelevant at that point. I was referencing women who weren't showing there buttholes on camera. And those men sending women stuff are trying to get with them by buying them out. the lack of awareness is killing me here, look you do realize when men are buying you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:54 PM
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It's a epidemic man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:26 PM
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I haven't really thought about it, I wouldn't say women are expected to do anything beyond just being there for your partner really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:23 PM
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Again they're paying in hopes of getting attention from the girl, you really think they'd be doing that if they could get it for free? They don't expect nothing in return. It's the reason why the moment they find out you have a boyfriend all of that stops. No man's spending thousands of dollars on a women not thinking they will get something out of it. Not every man's out for sex only, a lot of men just want a relationship or attention and you said so yourself you didn't ask what they wanted you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:15 PM
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What ever is telling you that is clearly lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:56 PM
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yeah you keep telling yourself that, enjoy being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:55 PM
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because a huge potation of women aren't worth providing for, they set there standards to high and give very little in return so why waist the money and effort only for it to be invane? most of those who are single are not single by choice. no one wants them. You keep saying dating a man is adding a load to yourself but your getting the better deal in this arragment and all you have to do is be there for him and you can't even manage to do that so why would men waste there time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:47 PM
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I mean if being with someone offered me the chance of a higher salary, higher happiness in life, less loneliness, more sex, less depression than not I think I might worship them a bit Yeah, you just described everything the man would be providing, or at the bare Mnium, your expectations of him. again what are you doing to think your adding value again? in a relationship the main focus is on the women's well being and happiness, not the mans. women are not going out of there way to provide for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:27 PM
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Oh I'm sorry madam I didn't know your existence alone improved my quality of life so much, shall I spit shine your shoes and worship the ground you walk on? There's a woman out there that requires nothing of you, but that you're alive Men will gladly take those women over the high maintence self important ego your suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:00 PM
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never surprised only disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:27 PM
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yet your still surprised when people call you it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:20 PM
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That's a fact, being genuine has nothing to do with buying you stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:15 PM
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*I* implied that I didn't know how to respond to stupid answers, *you* implied that I was just stupid in general, big difference. if your being ignorant don't be surprised when it you get called it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:13 PM
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There are a few portions of your sentence I highly agree with, and it's definitely not the last word. Lol you implied stupidity. If you ment something else, please do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:00 PM
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Who says there needs to be force for there to be entitlement? If your going in with the mindset of *I deserve a free meal* that's entitlement, same way women say men feel entitled to sex after paying for a meal, you aren't owed anything. you say women want a genuine man, I agree, but there's nothing genuine about buying you stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:52 PM
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No one is judging your worth because they don't want to date you. If you're basing your rejection on the fact that the other person doesn't want to pay for the first date, then yes, you're judging my worth based on superficial financial factors. They are making sure that when they get into the depths of the relationship where they, as the female portion of it, will be statistically likely to contribute significantly more to the relationship than the male portion. Your contribution to the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:37 PM
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That depends on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:08 PM
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Im sorry about that, if they did say that that is very rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:00 PM
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Well for one it's the default expectation that men should pay and two being used for expensive date and being ghosted later.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:08 PM
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ok I don't believe you, that is 100 percent a lie and any functioning adult wouldn't be acting like spending money is nothing, thats how you end up unable to afford anything later.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:22 PM
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it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:39 AM
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I say go dutch, no one loses anything, everyones keeping it above board. second dates I don't mind paying for if the first one works out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:57 AM
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No, verbalizing means actually saying something. Body language by itself doesn't necessarily mean anything, especially since it can be interpreted in different ways. Women's cues are often easy to mistake for simple friendliness, which is why many men are hesitant to assume romantic interest. In many cases, a man isn't outright rejecting you. Your signals may not be as clear as you think they are, or he may be deliberately avoiding assumptions because he doesn't want to misread the situation and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:40 AM
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So you're just going to ignore all of my points and simply say it's harder for you because you say it is? Good to know. Also, my dream girl is someone who's kind, sweet, and doesn't judge my worth based on how much money I'm willing to spend on her. If going Dutch on a first date is enough to disqualify a guy, then I think that's pretty telling. Your definition of "investing" seems to be purely financial. You've made it clear that you expect a man to spend significant amounts of money on you, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:08 AM
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you mean that I can see were this is going? yes,and by your responses I was correct in my statment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:07 AM
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me either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:04 AM
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Just because someone didn't buy you food they're not compatible? and your saying that's not entitled? no mam, *he* dodged a bullet. *and can't even treat women as good as they treat themselves?* Have you seen how men treat themselves? Trust me, on average they’re not living a life of luxury—they tend to live fairly simple lives and often put in more effort for a date than they would for themselves. you keep bringing up your vagina as the only thing of worth when going into a date, so don't be su…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:00 AM
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But I will say this: your arguments about pregnancy, disease, and negative mental health go both ways. Pregnancy— women have 15–20 forms of birth control, but if neither person uses protection during sex, responsibility is shared. Men don’t have nearly as many options, men only have 2 forms of birth control if you count pull out game . have options before during and after the dead is done to take care of pregnancy. Once a child is born, it’s a lifelong responsibility for both parties. Disease—me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:42 AM
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I can already see were this is going,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:19 AM
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Well, I was under that assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:18 AM
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Are you talking about before or after the date? How did you come to that conclusion without getting to know them first? You’re making a large assumption based on someone wanting to go Dutch on the first date. If this is your initial reaction to not getting a free meal, then yeah, they dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:07 AM
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Making men “invest” in the sense of spending money isn’t really necessary—they’re already investing their time when they go on a date. If someone is genuinely interested, there doesn’t need to be any financial cost involved at all. The point of a date is just to get to know each other. From that perspective, money doesn’t have to be part of proving interest, because the real investment is the time and attention both people are giving. "seems like you dropped the low maintenance one too." we went…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:00 AM
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Because I’m talking about divorce itself, and you’re talking about having a partner not leave you at all. No one can really account for that over a lifetime. There are a number of reasons a divorce can take place—finances, infidelity, or just general unfulfillment—and divorce is also incentivized in some cases. If men, or anyone, could guarantee a partner who would remain loyal to them, people would obviously prefer that. This isn’t even really a men vs women thing; it’s just a general reality o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:52 AM
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No, a meal can definitely influence the mood. An expensive dinner or going all out for someone you’re trying to court can affect how they perceive you and how the whole night feels, including whether there’s mutual attraction and potential sexual chemistry. It’s not the only factor, but setting, effort, and how you present the date can play a big role in shaping that connection. I doubt you'd get the reaction if you were brought to mc Donald's
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:43 AM
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well depending on the people and the mood it can definitly happen, people do have sex on the first date it's nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:37 AM
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becuase were talking about the *first* date not indefintly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:32 AM
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So your just pushing the goal poste to be absurd for absurd sake?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:31 AM
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yes thats kind of the end goal of a relationship, to pro-create.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:27 AM
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your previous argument was to get a women who won't take half your stuff in divorce, now your just saying to get a women who won't leave you period.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:24 AM
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No they want it, they just don't expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:20 AM
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I find that really hard to believe, based on your previous responses. It feels like you're treating money as if it grows on trees and prioritising fun on the man’s dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:12 AM
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Well I do believe abusive men are avoidable and I already explained my reasoning on the matter so there's not much else i can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:03 AM
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you just said you didn't want to debate divorce, but you keep circling back to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:55 AM
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you brought it up though....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:53 AM
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I didn’t mention abusive men, that was a previous commentor. your responding to the wrong person. "as to your second point, why would i divorce my husband just to take half his money if i could stay with him and have access to almost all of it?" That depends on the situation. If a marriage is going well and both a man and a woman are happy, they’ll usually stay together. But if it isn’t working anymore and they don’t like each other, then one or both people may try to secure the best financial o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:45 AM
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Not really—it’s not much of a free choice in practice if someone is trying to find a partner. If a man had the option to go on dates without paying, most would probably choose that anyway. But it’s not even just about money. The real issue is that nobody wants to feel used by the end of the night. Men don’t want to spend a bunch of money on someone who wasn’t really interested in them to begin with. From personal experience, I once went on a date with a girl who kept pushing for more and more ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:26 AM
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No, I disagree. If you're giving someone an ultimatum of, "Pay for my date or you don't get to see me," that is a form of entitlement. If women don't want men feeling entitled to sex because they paid for a date, then men don't want women feeling entitled to a free meal simply because they agreed to show up. The same principle applies: neither person should expect something from the other just because they're participating in the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:13 AM
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I'm sure they would if they could. The court system is heavily skewed, and realistically, if someone has the opportunity to walk away with half of their ex's assets, why wouldn't they take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:07 AM
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you got a good point there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:56 AM
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"if women never invite you to go on a date then clearly they don’t want to date you that badly." I think women often do want to date you; they just want you to make the first move. Obviously that's not always the case, but more often than not, some women will be more subtle about showing interest. Instead of approaching directly, they'll do little things to get your attention or encourage you to approach them. I hope that makes sense. My point is that a lack of direct pursuit doesn't necessarily…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 AM
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If your goal was to change the world and it didn't, then yes you failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:39 AM
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I feel like splitting the bill on the first date is the best approach. It helps ensure that both people are there because they're genuinely interested in getting to know each other, rather than because one person wants a free meal or whatever activity was planned. After the first date, though, I'd be much more comfortable with the guy paying. By that point, you've both shown enough interest to continue seeing each other, so it feels less transactional and more like a genuine gesture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:36 AM
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I don't think that's true. If men simply waited around for women to pursue them, humanity probably would've gone extinct a long time ago. Like it or not, men are generally expected to be the pursuers in dating. Women rarely take on that role unless the guy is exceptionally attractive, high-status, famous, or otherwise stands out from the crowd. Most relationships start because a man made the first move. I don't necessarily like that dynamic, but it is what it is. So comparing men pursuing women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:31 AM
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it's easy not to give a shit when it's not your money being spent, if that's really your views on money then go on a expensive date on your dime and see if you have the same level of enjoyment by the end of it when you can't pay rent next month.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:13 AM
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because you're not interested in him, you're interested in what he provides and if that's not the case, are you going to be paying for this trip or is it all going to be on his dime?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:02 AM
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and your not entitled to a mans money, get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:37 AM
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they do that becuase they expect to win her affection in doing so, they don't enjoy the act of spending money for the sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:35 AM
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this is out of my realm of conversation, I did not mean for people to go on a conspiracy theory tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:30 AM
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....I'm sorry i asked, didn't know you were going to go tin foil hat on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:28 AM
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I never said anything about algorithms, feeding the algorithms what? No judgment here dude, I just want to better understand what you're points are. I'm not trying to be malicious im probably just dense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:47 PM
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What's the point you're trying to make? People criticize and speak negatively about these corporations on their own platforms every day. You don't have to look far on YouTube or any major social media site to find countless people calling them out or expressing negative opinions about them. Just because you're using the platform "a tool" doesn't mean you agree with the people who own it. Your on reddit, does that mean you agree with what ever the owner feeds you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:31 PM
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Yeah, you just gave a terrible example. You're conflating what big corporations and influencers are trying to sell you with what people are actually saying. Corporations are the ones saying those things are good, that they're the future, etc., because they're trying to sell them to you. The general public, on the other hand, often disagrees. And the disagreement is what's widespread online. By using that example, you're actually showing that you agree with what the majority of people are saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:08 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:06 PM
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To be fair, seeing something become widespread online is probably better than relying purely on anecdotal experiences, since those can vary greatly from person to person. When you see many women from different backgrounds and walks of life publicly expressing standards that seem unreasonably high, it becomes harder to argue that the perception is coming solely from your own social circle or personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:59 PM
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In one ear out the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:52 PM
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Ok c'mon now, I think what ops is saying is 100 percent wrong but trump literally is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, he has money, wealth, and statues, his personality is irrelevant when you have that much clout! of course he's going to get mad pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:26 AM
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This is kind of broad, I'd say the life of a average male is pretty difficult because you're kind of thrown into the deep end with no external safety net. Of course this isn't true for every male but it's kind of just the way things are so for most males.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 11:36 PM
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well that begs the question of how much your life is worth? The military already provides a bunch of benefits I don't think increased pay would be a good idea for tax payers because that moneys got to come from some were.
/r/MensRights03/06/26 04:59 AM
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Don't know why your getting down voted, it really had nothing to do with ops point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:47 PM
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No, I absolutely KNOW this is a fact; it's what men have been saying forever, they aren't that picky, if you're female, you will find at least a handful of males interested in you. Women have the right to be picky, but don't complain if you can't find anyone; if you being picky is pushing yourself outside of the dating market then you have no one else to blame but yourself. Men are just looking for warm holes. Male messaging has been received loud and clear. Alright, well, if that's how you see …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:06 PM
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I never said YOU accused me. I’m describing what happened before you joined the conversation. Yes, you did. I'm literally the same person you're referring to in your previous comment. This is why I said you're not paying attention to who you respond to. I think it’s hilarious that the quotes that you picked perfectly illustrate that my issue is when men disrespect women’s boundaries. The discussion was about flirting, and you keep making generalizations about it and feel the need to insert shit-…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:22 PM
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No, you didn't *break my brain*. Also, this shows you don't read who's responding to you. The commenter accused me personally of never initiating an approach. I proved him wrong. Men love to accuse me of being a hypocrite No, I never accused you of not initiating an approach. I asked a hypothetically because you were making negative statements about men’s approaches to women, as if they’re expected to get it right every time. It’s something people learn over time, which requires failing—somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:43 AM
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Because of your attitude towards men, it's really hard to believe you have a relationship at all. You’d all rather stay in your protected bubble believing your extremely narrow views about women despite ample evidence all around you. The evidence you’ve presented ironically reflects your own narrow views about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:03 AM
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Yeah, sure, I'm lost, whatever you have to tell yourself to keep living in your delusions, sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:54 AM
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Honestly the way women flirt is to subtle to tell any difference, you can't tell if there just being nice or if they're into you. It's easy to mistake one for the other so most men just play it safe and assume they have no romantic interest in them rather than face any potential backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:48 AM
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Men have no issue lowering there standards to find a partner, most men aren't that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:21 AM
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That sounds awesome actually. I would love to get those
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:49 PM
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Again you don't know if someones interested unless you show interest yourself, unless they expressed it before hand.You keep trying to talk for all women as if you have the experience of ALL women based on interactions YOU dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:15 PM
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I don't understand what you're getting at tbh. You're saying that I'm pointing out problems that that only concern me. Neither I or his comment did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:55 PM
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Great, you’re an outlier—your experience doesn’t apply to everyone. If you went up to him and decided to instantly flirt, that would be normal. People do that—some better than others. I dislike when someone tries to make normal interaction seem creepy. There isn’t a written rulebook on when to flirt; what you find creepy, others might find charming. It all depends on the person and the context. We’re talking about cold approaching someone, which varies from person to person. This isn’t about dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:35 AM
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What? Lady, how do you not know if you want to show interest in a person? That’s the whole reason you’re approaching them to begin with. How is this a hard thing for you to grasp? When you see someone you’re attracted to, you know whether you’re attracted to them or not. What kind of mental gymnastics are you trying to jump through right now? Have you ever actually tried initiating an approach? The majority of women sit there while guys do the approaching, so of course a lot of men aren’t going …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:07 AM
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Not if you intend to show interest in the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:00 AM
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I never said anything about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:03 PM
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Again, How are you going to find out if they have a partner if you're not allowed to approach???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:51 AM
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Again, those aren’t really streamers—they’re YouTubers. Their income isn’t primarily based on streaming; it mostly comes from YouTube and other types of content, with streaming being something they only do occasionally. Calling them top streamers is like saying The Rock is a top earner in streaming, even though most of his income and audience come from outside that space. The only person on that list who actually built their audience through streaming from the start is Kai.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:46 AM
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These aren’t even streamers—they’re YouTubers. And half of this list is women; it doesn’t even include streamers like Pokimane or Hasan, or anyone who actually streams on Twitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:35 AM
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Yeah, that's how flirting works, you flirt, find out if they have a partner or not, and make your decisions from there. So you think men should stop approaching all women under the assumption that they already have a partner? If that's the case, then no one would have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:23 AM
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The streamers getting the most gifts and money are females, the ones with face filters and knee socks, trying to look as cute as possible; they aren't entertaining or saying anything of interest, they just look pretty and play video games poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:14 AM
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yep yep, men need to just stop approaching women like they have been for thousands of years and just let our species die because of YOUR negative experiences that your projecting on to everyone else. perfectly reasonable take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:11 AM
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How can you have found a partner if no one's flirting with you? Unless you're the one approaching, you're not getting anybody. You understand that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:05 AM
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They're saying that there are a bunch of different metrics that are never addressed, even if you had the full list were you even planning to address any of them or just look at it and say. *Is that all?*
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:39 AM
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And generally speaking, societies that allowed plural marriage or similar arrangements were not societies where women had genuine choice. As you point out, Islamic law requires a woman to consent, but please don't pretend that women can genuinely withhold consent in places where Islamic law is enforced (e.g., Taliban run Afghanistan). I'm not saying there weren't exceptions, but generally women have had little choice historically. But these weren't exceptions these were the are general rule and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:12 AM
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This is going no were, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:56 AM
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I'm not even red pilled! if anything you took one many blue pills madam. you didn't read the instructions, your not down the whole bottle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:44 AM
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Well, it is now, and you’re failing it by copying someone else’s answers. Is it really that hard to form your own opinion? Speaking of deflecting, I notice you’re harping on me agreeing with another posters points instead of trying to actually prove yours. Deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:33 AM
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We're just going around in circles at this point. You keep trying to pull out outliers to support an argument that doesn’t really hold water. If all those people are saying he's out of her league, it means those people find him attractive and would gladly take her place. That one girl doesn’t invalidate the point I’m making, because I’m not saying that having those traits attracts every woman; it will attract most women. And that resulted in OP thinking he was ‘hot shit’, being put in his place …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:24 AM
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You call it rage bait, I call it facts, it's not my problem how people respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:54 AM
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If I were to have those I doubt you'd be the one to voice any sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:44 AM
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you just told me you acknowledged someone else's answer which is basically the equivalent of having a group project contributing nothing and signing your name on the paper to get an A. I notice you didn’t have an answer for those points either. I also notice you keep trying to deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:35 AM
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Sure you didn't, we done here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:25 AM
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Yes, I agree, and again, I never denied that there are nuances and outliers. But speaking in general terms about what most people go for when it comes to attraction, if OP has the general traits that most women look for, and the woman he was with has fewer of the things that most men look for, he is on a higher level than her. I have to use extremes because if I go into every nuance and fetish people have on an individual level, we would be here forever. Theres a reason why people say things lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 01:23 AM
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I'll take u seriously when you stop trolling people on this sub ms. *I'm just phucking with ya*
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:56 AM
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If you have to rely on someone else's responses to pass them off as your own then that just tells me you didn't have answer to the question to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:55 AM
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I see you everywhere, do you like just like picking random fights with strangers on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:49 AM
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Yeah and I've addressed that, and I'm still in the middle of doing so, but I'm asking your opinion not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:41 AM
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It is though, but do tell. how would you go about conducting the study to gather the data to make a definitive conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:18 PM
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I trust history. Throughout history, women generally didn't have any say in their marriage arrangement. That's simply fact. They were effectively traded to the men they married. "Trust me bro" doesn't change that. Well then you need to brush up on your history because your being very disingenuous with your stance on the matter, While it’s true that arranged marriages were common historically and women’s choices were often constrained by societal norms, it is incorrect to claim they universally l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:04 PM
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Lol it wasn’t a study, it was a survey, and it’s simply a snapshot of OkCupid from 16 years ago. .....what do you think surveys are for exactly? I know you haven’t actually read it, because you legit thought that was some “mic drop” link lol I actually did read it but I'm pretty sure you haven't because if had you'd see it was more then a snapshot, You said there was no evidence I gave you contrary and despite the study being old it's still relevant because the situation has only gotten worse ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:51 PM
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Yet we live in a world where some men prefer BBW’s? An* Did I ever say there weren't men who enjoyed bbw? No, I was stating that certain traits people find attractive weren't on the same level. Meaning that in general while *some* men may find bbw attractive but *most* men find petite or slim body types to be most attractive, your always going to have that one guy who has a granny fetish but he's not the common denominator. And it is you yourself, who is trying to make yourself feel better by co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:31 PM
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then whats there excuse now? even though there earning more there still looking for men who make more then them. You realize that women typically had no choice in the matter until recently, right? Like when the invading army came into town, killed all the males (including the children), and distributed the women amongst themselves, I'm guessing most of the women didn't think "damn that guy who just killed my husband and sons is a real Chad". Genghis Khan had hundreds of women, but it's not like …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:07 PM
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And most men also consider the money to be theirs not Joint funds. Leave her. what does that have to do with anything we are talking about. joint or not the money is still being taken away from you. 2.I already explained the reasons you couldn't/shouldn't do that. 3.I think you've got it backwards, her money is hers and his money is her money when it comes to traditional marriage. he only seen as his money once the divorce comes into play because for some reason, a lot of women think they are st…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:13 PM
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it literally references the *study* but something tells me even with the data in your hands you'd skirt around the obvious, I you can't convince someone that the sky is blue if they don't choose to look up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:59 PM
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So we're just going to act like hypergamy doesn't exist? If you want evidence, just look at all of human history and evolution: high-status men typically had more than one woman, and some even maintained harems. No average man was landing a harem of women. This has always been a thing in nature. Where do you think the term "alpha male" came from? But nothing empirically derived supports that statement. May I present you with the infamous Okcupid study from 2009 .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:37 PM
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But 100% of women are going for 20% of men, you see the point being made here? or are just going to continue being willfully obtuse obtuse about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:39 PM
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by that logic, a over weight balding broke fat guy is on the same level as a rich 6 foot ripped dude. It's only subjective if you want to feel better about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:34 PM
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so men of high status in wealth and looks don't normally get a lot of women with little effort? and those men with high status aren't in the top 20%? I'm sorry but what exactly isn't true again?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:32 PM
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yeah that's true, you have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:08 PM
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that's true, can't beat supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:52 PM
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is that really bad communication? she seemed down for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:48 PM
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same with most women but they sure act like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:37 PM
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Considering that most men make more than their spouse, doesn't really matter, especially if you factor in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:09 PM
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Do you think making your man uncomfortable would have saved your marriage? I'm pretty sure that if he were comfortable with you, he would have been more open about his issues in the relationship. The story you're telling feels very fabricated and seems like a huge misreading of your relationship. If your huge take away from this was *I need to make my partner feel uncomfortable then I don't think your ready for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:03 PM
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Women CHOOSE those men who act poorly. How fucking dense are you? If a woman has 100 Men to choose from and PICKS the worst 2 and the ONLY 2 of that 100 who will act that way.. Because they act that way. How is that mens fault when being Good behaving men was the literal reason they were not chosen? must be hard for women to choose between chad and tyrone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:44 PM
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Let me elaborate: by "duty," I mean the commitment to uphold the promises made during marriage, even when it’s neither convenient nor enjoyable. It’s about prioritizing the relationship and its responsibilities over fleeting emotions, which is essential for a long-lasting marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:34 PM
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So your saying losing half your finances and access to children aren't a factor of preventing divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:17 AM
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Duty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:03 AM
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The divorce courts specifically and having to split assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:00 AM
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I mean he's basically saying a longer version of everything every other male on this post has been saying all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:36 AM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:33 AM
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The government is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:55 AM
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and it's usually 9/10 times women usually only sacrifice themselves when it's for something that only benefits themselves/women specifically and not people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:38 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:23 AM
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No one said marrage was going to be easy, it requires sacrifice even if that includes your happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:47 AM
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yes, dating is a pain in the ass for most regular men, it's why we marry train wreck wives because after a while you just take what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:42 AM
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But yeah it’s pretty weak to feel victimized by some women on the internet talking about being afraid of being alone with a strange man in the middle of nowhere. You know, being afraid of what every father in this world is also afraid of happening to his daughter. you have to realize the phrasing of the question is ridiculous right? the question wasn't *would u like be in the woods with a strange man* it was would you rather be in the woods with a man or a bear. they never described the man as b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:29 AM
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when it comes to marriages for most men you can't just up and leave without there being huge consequences attached to it, if there are kids involved that becomes a factor and even if there aren't any children involved then finances are also a huge factor as well so the logical choice is just to stay in the relationship and try to work it out, especially if you've already been with the person for a long period of time and at that point trying to get into the dating game again would be a huge hass…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:06 AM
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Where did I say "kill all men" is acceptable? Then what arguments trying to support becuase your not being very clear with what stance your trying to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:13 AM
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Yes the context precisely change their impact. "Kill all gays" does not have the same impact than "Kill all heteros" in a context where gay people get robbed, beaten and killed because they hold hands in the street. Its freaking obvious. And again, in what way does this make the statement kill all men acceptable? your commenting that it has a lesser impact due to who it's coming from but that wasn't the argument of the person you were responding to, they were asking what makes this acceptable, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:05 AM
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It's not a positive light or a negative light. It's a neutral light. We can acknowledge a threat risk without hating the cause of the risk. It’s not neutral if you’re referring to it as “a dangerous substance that maims women” instead of simply calling it what it is—semen. The moment you start attaching positive or negative labels to something beyond what it actually is, you lose a neutral stance. That’s like me referring to cyanide as “a peaceful drug that helps you get a long sleep.” It doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:35 PM
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But he’s not talking about violent posts—that’s the point we’re making. He’s referring to posts about men that are non-violent but are still being removed despite the femcels having similar posts. There's an odd comparison happening between "women should be our slaves and/or murdered" and "men are annoying" No one is making that comparison. I already explained what the comparisons are, but you’re really downplaying the severity of extremist femcel posts. You’re framing them as if they’re just sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:18 PM
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No, I don't see that. Dogs can maim or kill me too, but I still love them. Recognizing a potential threat has nothing to do with moral judgement. people typically don't refer to something that maims or kills someone in a positive light. Women can't generally impregnate themselves. you take pregnancy as the equivalent of semen maiming a women. something that has been done since the dawn of time with no issue... and, you don't find that concerning?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:22 PM
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Except OP asked for feedback on his situation and reasoning. You can give feedback without mocking someone, calling someone scared or selfish doesn't add to the conversation or give better insight into decision making, it's just gaslighting someone towards your moral belief. while falsely claiming that vasectomies have no risks I'm going based off of response I saw claiming that in this thread somewhere, I don't know were it is and I'm to lazy to look for it. One option is significantly better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:10 PM
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I never called it vile or poison- those are moral claims. I don't think semen is immoral. It's a necessary part of reproduction. And the reproduction process can kill or maim women. You see when you frame it as *semen can kill or *maim* women* I don't think I'm to far fetched in thinking that you don't hold the male genitalia in the most positive light... I have never heard of a women being maimed by semen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:49 PM
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What you just described isn’t about reproductive rights; it’s just general prevention of reproduction. We are talking about what happens after a baby has been conceived and the amount of say the father has in that situation, which you just answered with none. As a male, I am still being controlled either way because I have no say in what happens to the life I helped create, whether voluntarily or involuntarily, but I still have to deal with the consequences of decisions being made by the mother.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:25 PM
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you keep describing male semen as a "dangerous, toxic substance that's vile and poisonous to women" rather than as something that's simply a natural part of human biology and its truly concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:47 PM
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that isn't always the case, and the longer you wait the less chance you'll have of being able to reverse it, so when you actually would like a child your permanently sterile.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:21 PM
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Telling someone they are a (insert negative label) for not doing something is still a form of coercion, even if it gives the illusion of choice. For example, presenting a list of side effects for the pill while falsely claiming that vasectomies have no risks is a biased tactic. This approach manipulates the decision-making process by framing one option as significantly better, pressuring the person to choose based on incomplete or misleading information rather than an objective comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:17 PM
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then tell me, in what context does "kill all men" sound justifiable, if men had a movement slogan called *rape all women* would anybody see that as acceptable in any way shape or form? hell even the saying of a group of men saying *kill all women* would be hard to justify. to say that this has nothing to do with gender is absurd because rather we acknowledge it or not there is bias towards whats being said from a certain sex to were context doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:58 PM
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men don't have a say in what happens to their own offspring, it's solely up to the mother and she can put on child support afterwards. If you want to argue what reproductive rights men don't have you can answer your own question by naming what reproductive rights they DO have during and after the pregnancy has occured.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:41 PM
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I believe what OP is highlighting is the double standard in how similar toxic behaviors are perceived and rewarded based on gender. Femcels, despite promoting harmful ideas, often receive validation or are even celebrated for their posts, while incels making equally non-violent statements are vilified and dismissed as inherently negative. This discrepancy creates a situation where one group’s toxicity is reframed as empowering or relatable, while the other is condemned outright. The only signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:33 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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