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| 3 | Most women can’t admit that they care about looks just/nearly as much as men because they see themselves as the sophisticated and non-primitive gender as opposed to men.Yes, women are dishonest. We know that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Do older woman really think older men date younger woman cause they are easier?The last thing I’d ever want is an older man with a low libido. I think it is most likely for women to have lower libido than for men, so men with lower libido (older) may be a good option for those women. BTW, no one is forcing those young women to date old men, they just do. I'm glad they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.That is OK and great. I just point out more general social trends. I'm sure there are great men and women everywhere. Even women that may not be helpful at all to strangers may be very helpful to their family and friends, and that is OK too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Do older woman really think older men date younger woman cause they are easier?Umm, I never claimed they did? Actually most men's libido go down by age which may be comfortable for women that date them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Have we "run out" of women (for the prime dating ages at least)Well, if pussy is the only value they provide, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Women shouldn't give one man her 20sIf in your 20s you are happy with someone you love, you are actually GETTING a lot of benefits: company, love, common adventures, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Do older woman really think older men date younger woman cause they are easier?I don't get why women complain about this. Even old women deep in their 70s can get dick if they lower standards enough. They are like billionaires complaining about lowing a few millions. Consider the following from men's perspective: Date an older woman and enjoy the old one. Date a younger woman and you also enjoy the old one as she becomes old. Men clearly get more from the 2nd options. Now consider women's perspective: Date immature man that is barely trying to find his place in the world. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.It is not just about being bitter to women, though. There is actually a social breakdown, people are becoming atomized. Why would women be an exception to this breakdown? It is so stupid to assume men will just give and give forever to society, without getting anything back from society and no resentment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:10 PM |
| 3 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeThis is actually a good point that may explain Karens, for sure. I do observe this in Nurses and teachers... they start young, full of life and hope, and after a few years they are so bitter and barely do a good job because often patients also treat them as shit. It is very sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeI agree. Sometimes I observed that some otherwise customers are OK but they have a bad day and somehow that makes them feel the right to treat others as shit, which is very immature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.I’m a woman and I would help any woman Exactly, women help other women, they treat men as trash. Men should stop simping and help only people they care about. Clearly there is a social breakdown happening. People feel lonelier than ever even being more connected than ever in history. I don't see why women shall have special treatment in this breakdown. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.I wish I was, but probably if I was with family or friends or GF looking as an asshole may make me look terrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeYou mean Progressives that think like this about white hetero men? A lot, probably you too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 01:52 PM |
| 3 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeI also fine it so funny when men think we get mad when we get older and get less male attention. I did not say it is about male attention, tho. Pretty women also get attention and status from other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowI agree with you, but I don't think you get my point. We have to first understand how each gender contributes to the other. Usually the contribution of women cannot be taxed or distributed... being mom, sex, love, caring for others, etc. That does NOT make women's contribution less valuable, but female contribution is less distributable and less taxable than male labor. So distributing male contribution for everyone, but women only giving their contribution to a few men in family, creates an imb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 06:53 PM |
| 4 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.Yes, women help each other, but usually not random men as often as women help random women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 06:47 PM |
| – | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationship90% of custody agreements are settled outside of family court. Meaning the parents agree on the arrangement. Usually the issues raise in such arrangements. She claims the kid will be available X time and the man has to wait hours or she changes her mind, etc. Simply making it all harder for men to meet their kids for just despair and resentment to the ex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Everyone changes on marriage. Women often stop having sex, which frustrates the man. It is a two people responsibility to keep the marriage healthy EVEN when both change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Men Find Youthful Women Attractive (Particularly 20s) Similarly to how Women Find Tall Men attractiveWomen have to be young, don't age, look their best, don't have bad skin, keep their hair well maintained, keep in good shape despite western food being pumped full of fat and sugar. This is just exisiting? What I mean is that women don't really need to take huge risks (in context of rejection, because women do take more safety risks). They don't need social skills, personality, mental health... nothing. Just being available and there. Agree women can increase attractiveness with beauty and carin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 05:48 PM |
| 8 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.I help barely known women considering how much they helped me in the past or if at least they were nice to me and talked to me. If they ignored me or treated me as trash, bye bye. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Men Find Youthful Women Attractive (Particularly 20s) Similarly to how Women Find Tall Men attractiveGood question. I think the reason is that men have to provide more than women, while Women just have to exist. A man can be attractive by money, power, status, resources, a good income, social skills, physical, etc. so men have MANY variables to attract women. The disadvantage with this is that men have to do way more to attract women than women have to attract men. Competition among men is harsh and women have no problem sharing the same guys or just not dating until the guy comes, while men ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Men Find Youthful Women Attractive (Particularly 20s) Similarly to how Women Find Tall Men attractiveGood for them, so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeAssuming only hetero Christian white men CAN be racist as a whole is way more racist, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Men Find Youthful Women Attractive (Particularly 20s) Similarly to how Women Find Tall Men attractiveThat is true, but if you are starting a relationship, better enjoy her in her youth and then later... not enjoy only her old self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 04:05 PM |
| 0 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeWell, if you attribute all racism and discrimination and oppression to only white hetero men, maybe is not a good idea to marry and fuck them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 04:03 PM |
| 63 | Simping is making dating absolutely unbearable and guys are enabling and reinforcing terrible behavior on both sides.The problem is that simping is basically part of our culture and not simping is seen as being an evil or selfish man. See a woman with a flat tire? You are an asshole if you don't help her even when women would never ever stop to help anyone. See a woman being attacked and you don't do anything? You are an asshole as a man, even when women would not move a finger to help anyone. Remember the woman in the train that was attacked and the article was her criticizing the two white guys that did noth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowAll that is secondary or very cheap anyway. That is why plenty of men live with parents, don't work, and they do perfectly fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:44 PM |
| 18 | Average and acceptable are not the same thing. I think men would do well to accept thisAlmost all women consider themselves a 9 or a 10 and say it with a straight face. Pussy inflation is real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:30 PM |
| 3 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowAgreed, no one is denying that. Just pointing out that inventions are just the tip of the iceberg of contribution, and all down the iceberg men are contributing the most economically. Women do contribute more but subjectively, such as caring for families or being a reason for men to work for. The point is that gender roles never went away, they just became institutionalized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowOnly fundamental motivation for men today for working is not becoming homeless. Literally nothing else is guaranteed, and even that can be taken away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:16 PM |
| 13 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowI agree women contribute in more subjective ways such as caring for family and such, I'm not denying that. My point is that women have not really replaced men as they claim in labor and wealth production. They still rely on men for economic contribution through the state, the irony is that this is probably more than ever because countries are richer than ever and the state basically forces people (especially men) to work. Best proof of this is Ukraine. Look how young men with no military experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:15 PM |
| 8 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowNo one respects talkers who do nothing; Sounds a lot as a description of modern women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:12 PM |
| -4 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeAlmost all progressive women such as AOC and celebrity POCs date one of those oppressive white men they love to call out, though. So maybe common younger women are not that different from Karens, the later are just more honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:57 PM |
| 6 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowNo need to do that, just stop working and let all rotten. It already is happening and it is fun to watch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:56 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe the women on amiugly?Most beautiful women that have never been asked out probably put a shit face when they go out or never leave the house. It is as easy to fix as going out more alone or with just a few friends and not being shitty to men, not looking away if the guy smiles her, talking to people even if no romantic interest is there is also good. It is so easy to fix for thin, good looking shy women. Compare that to the hell autistic men have to live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowSounds like we’re dependent to an extent on scientists, not men, unless ALL men have a hand in tech and infrastructure? Let me give a more concrete example. See how a medication is created: Scientists find how a chemical affects a protein that causes an illness, and describe it in a paper, this may take years. A pharmacy lab develops a chemical to handle that protein and they make studies to make it work. The pharmacy researches different methods to develop the medication spending the least reso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:46 PM |
| 21 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowWomen almost everywhere contribute less to GDP than men. The government indeed is their husband, but the thing is that even the state relies on male labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:29 PM |
| 4 | Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” nowExcept for sex, men also don't need women for relationships, and in many cases it is risky for ugly divorces and such. It is kind of interesting that you point out attraction because indeed male horniness is the only force that give women any leverage in relationships. No wonder women hate porn and prostitution so much... because, as you admit, only their pussy has any real value. Now women have the freedom to be with who they actually want. They don’t feel physically and emotionally trapped. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Standards usually adjust to reality of the person. Women have higher standards because they have more prospects. Top men also have greater standards to women they want to marry. Men also have to compete with women staying alone, because often women can get sex or "situationships" with just a click on an app, so staying single for them is not an issue. If those men with "no standards" get it together somehow and become late bloomers, they usually get more options and increase standards accordingl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?I'm not sure that has anything to do with genetics, it has a lot to do with trauma, and a lot of parents may be terrible in dating but great parents or viceversa... In fact, I found a lot of men that are many-times divorced are great fathers, probably as an over-compensation for being terrible at marriage. But yes, if you are in trauma or mentally unstable in everything, it is likely you will not be a great parent, but just being bad as dating is not enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:09 PM |
| – | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipThey can start by sharing custody or at least letting the children see their father for a few days. A lot of single moms basically separate the children from their fathers or make it hell for them to visit them only because personal resentment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?I disagree because in this case the issue is not the man, but the woman that is resentful. You find about the deep resentment of a person after you have invested a lot in that person and true colors come up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:04 PM |
| 2 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?Being nice to coworkers is OK. But giving them gifts? Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:00 PM |
| 6 | Loneliness cannot be solved in the long term without romantic relationshipsI kind of resent people, though. It is hard to relate to people after they rejected you. I would feel like begging them to accept me. In fact, I would prefer the suffering of loneliness than the humiliation of going back as a sad dog to them. I know most of that is in my imagination, but still it is a feeling hard to shake away. I do love my family, but community as a whole? Friends and stuff? I'm very skeptic about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Loneliness cannot be solved in the long term without romantic relationshipsI get your point, but I'm not convinced yet you cannot overcome loneliness in your own. It is hard, it is not ideal, but plenty of monks and priests and intellectuals did it in the past, I'm sure we can do it too. I'm in the process of finding ways to overcome loneliness through meditation and other methods. It kind of worked the book to let go from Dr. David Hawkins helped me a lot. However, I do agree that if you can get a relationship and friends to overcome loneliness, you shall get that. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseI agree, and being religious don't free you from nihilism either, but the fact is that nihilism is taking over anyway and people are still made for meaning to be psychologically healthy. This may as well be the challenge of the century. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:21 PM |
| 9 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?I’ll plan and send your secretary/boss/understaff gifts on their birthdays and holidays, and make an effort to socialize with them WTF fuck coworkers, we are forced there, they have nothing in common with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:47 PM |
| 27 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?Apparently just being there with the man is emotional labor LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:46 PM |
| 9 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?I mean, if sex is safer and funnier for men, that probably means sex and relationships for them are not such a big deal as for women, which means women are on scarcity and therefore women dominate the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:40 PM |
| 6 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?IDK, it seems women are very shy around men when they are single, especially women that claim to be lonely and post on r/foreveralonewomen. If they really want a relationship, they have to take risks of rejection... not even close to how many risks men take, but they have to. Now, I get dating is more dangerous for women and that is understandable, but there are ways... you can go with friends, date in a public place, walkable place, date online, etc. Men are the ones who have to put almost all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:30 PM |
| 12 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Women who marry men they did not want usually to become bitter, hold sex and love, and initiate and ugly divorce that may economically destroy the man. I think it is all rooted in resentment, but sadly there is not much the man can do to avoid that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:06 PM |
| 12 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?No, I agree with you, but women also are often very shy in social environment. Suppose an average woman wants a relationship. If you don't leave your room and you hate dating apps, how can men meet you? If they go with friends and they never leave the girl's group, most men will not approach because they have to make the whole group accept him first, so it is not worth it. I would suggest women to go out with someone, a girl friend, and be open to be approached. Literally all they have to do to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:56 PM |
| 6 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseYeah, just because a man is Christian it does not mean he is open to be a daddy of her child. He deserves an equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:29 PM |
| 0 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseBut it is true, though. Nihilism is a bitch. Take your antidepressants ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:26 PM |
| 1 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseJudging actions and choices is not only OK but encouraged, not the same as judging people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:25 PM |
| 74 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Try the Lizzo test. If she says Lizzo is beautiful, tell her she looks like Lizzo and see how she reacts. Most likely outcome is that she will be mad. Why? Because women love telling each other lies as these and when you put a mirror they get very mad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:19 PM |
| 24 | Why don't low quality women just lower your standards comparable to where you actually are?Low quality people don't want low quality people, it applies to both men and women. However, men are hornier and don't get pregnant, so that means men are more open to find love than those women, so ugly and average women have an advantage over ugly and average men that get nothing. I observe a lot of those women don't really leave their house, they find men interested in them as creepy or as an insult. That means they will never find relationships with men unless they change that attitude. Thos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipwut? I think you are attributing me too much importance. As I said, I don't think most men are desperate. They do want sex more than women, but they also have way more options than women to do amazing things. Women barely do anything interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 02:46 PM |
| 0 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipI was talking about the validation men get from sex, but not only from sex. I was not talking about women. Sorry for the misunderstanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipThat is not validating for women. I think women find more validation on committed relationships with high value men, not necessarily having sex with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousThe criticism is not on the use of antidepressants, but the implications. The same is happening with statins. If people stopped eating so much sugar and carbs, statins would not be necessary for most of them. Same for a lot of medications for diabetes caused by food habits and obesity. So medications here are not the problem, the problem is that people rather use medications than change the unhealthy lifestyle they have. Depression is the same. If you never go out, or don't go to therapy, or don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousThe hypothesis that depression is caused by imabalance in chemicals have been proven wrong, though. The fact is that depression is just people hating themselves or their lives. Why hate life if they are living in the best times ever in history? It makes no sense, but maybe the reason is that people need suffering and struggle to get meaning, which is disheartening if it is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousStigma like what? Women openly say about how much men kill themselves, while in reality is that men are not trying to get attention and actually do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousThe semantic difference is binary, but in reality it is an spectrum. You can argue any incel can get sex if he pays enough, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 01:02 PM |
| 3 | Women fuck who they want.......So? Men who fuck multiple women consider themselves single while women who are fucked once a week with the guy fucking other women consider themselves in a "relationship". Otherwise there would not be as many single men, in fact this proves hypergamy and the fact women love it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 09:36 PM |
| 0 | Has Ghosting Become An Acceptable Way to End Relationships?That sounds more like being flaky, and women are experts on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:49 PM |
| -2 | Has Ghosting Become An Acceptable Way to End Relationships?That is not ghosting, though. They are just satisfied. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:41 PM |
| -1 | Has Ghosting Become An Acceptable Way to End Relationships?I never ghost. I do let conversations die or so, but ghosting is psychopathic. I find it way worse those who block with no warning. Some may claim it is more honest than just keeping the conversation around, but I disagree. You don't have to treat people as disposable trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:40 PM |
| 6 | Has Ghosting Become An Acceptable Way to End Relationships?I don't get how women can put a face and ask a guy to help her move out after ignoring conversations, ghosting, flaking, etc. Disgusting, b*tch go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:38 PM |
| 1 | What if humans laid eggs?I always think about this, also what if humans had tails. Who has the custody of the egg? Can eggs be aborted? Is the egg fertilized in her our outside? Cannot imagine how a man fertilizes an egg. Two births: putting the egg (egging) and waiting the egg to be born. Imagine the gadgets to keep the egg warm and women claiming they want to "naturally" keep it warm as an excuse to not go to work. Women complaining about emotional "egg" labor or shit like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousVery few men have such options unless in a relationship. Even if they do have a woman for fun, she usually don't want to be treated as a whole called for an emergency oral. He has to be extremely hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemI'm bi so it would work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:47 PM |
| 0 | Women fuck who they want......."Relationships" often mean the woman is sharing the guy with others, though. They just wait like 2 weeks to get their chance. Sadly, those relationships will never be anything such as a family. But that is OK, women prefer to fuck men that will never commit to them than average men that actually want a family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemGreat! Younger men are just lost forever. Single moms made them go to waste. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:40 PM |
| 0 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipI observe women do details for men and women such as birthday gift, but men often focus on doing more concrete and direct stuff such as fixing her sink. Both ways are very important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:39 PM |
| 0 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousIf more men said no sex it would even out the playing field without trying to force or guilt women into unwanted sex. I think you are trying to reduce basic human nature to just a few decisions. Not very wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipI think the male strategy in that case is actually wiser than the single mom's strategy. It is not easy to raise kids alone. Men understand this so they rely on help from others and have no issue admitting they need it to raise kids. Besides, it is just a few years, after that the kids basically raise themselves. Single moms trying to do everything is a problem, hubris. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:08 PM |
| 0 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipI don't get your question. Yes, men fuck what they have/can because just having someone to fuck frequently increases their status. Women are rarely truly loved, just the sex and status they provide is what most men want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 06:00 PM |
| 2 | Women fuck who they want.......Have you seen a Karen? How are they made? They were attractive women that lose like 50% of attention from men. Those women are still way more successful than 80% average men, but no one wants to deal with their bullshit anymore because they were so entitled to privilege they lost. They lost the edge of pretty privilege, and they are like junkies, as attention is like a drug for women. Imagine being such a privileged life that just losing half attention from the other gender makes you totally cra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Women fuck who they want.......Women definitely date who they want Not quite. They are too picky and the men they want are usually taken or they have to wait for their turn. But I do agree women have more options to date than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:54 PM |
| 0 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipit might surprise you but you will not die, if you don’t have sex. Easy to say from a privileged position, considering what having sex means: someone validates you, someone finds you interesting, you have a social network, etc. That is why I say words such as incel as just slurs for autistic men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipIt depends a lot on the guy, fact is that a few men get lots of sex and most of them just fight for scrabs and mental women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipHmmm, good point, but that is more for the kids rather than the man. The man may also put more effort economically to raise the kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:49 PM |
| 13 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemDon't women do that by using makeup, sexy clothes, etc.? Oh, never mind, I forgot, they just dress as such for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:41 PM |
| – | Are cels actually involuntary?Treating women as trash cause u can’t get any isn’t a justified way to live life you can’t justify being a bad person towards a group of people like that. But who can blame them? After all, this gender-wide insults were started by women. Women are encouraged to treat men as trash, especially by feminism, because "they are not entitled to sex" or stuff like that. Even mainstream media saying stuff such as "men are pigs" is perfectly acceptable. Don't you think it is also fair for those men to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:40 PM |
| 15 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemEvery single problem with modern dating is because modern men lack self restraint and respect. The red pill movement started as a guide for hook up culture, so that men can learn to take advantage of women to sleep with as many they could. Men are not "taking advantage" from women for having sex. Unless she is being raped or something, she agrees on sex. Last time I checked, women also enjoy sex. If she married in her mind or gives sex before some commitment and that is what she wanted, it is he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Men's excessive desire and lack of self respect is the problemJust date older, queen ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipwhereas there’s never a justification for rape. Well, maybe the suffering of wars and alcohol make men crazy, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:25 PM |
| – | Are cels actually involuntary?No, but the majority fall in one or both of those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipLet the human race go extinct! You don't owe the human race your labor. Don't be with women if they make you miserable. I think you are trying to turn personal something that is very impersonal to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:24 PM |
| – | Are cels actually involuntary?Do u think living with the incel mindset just makes way harder though. Sure, but no one starts with such mindset in the first place. Those men have been beaten by life so treating women as trash will make no difference now. Personally, If I was an incel, I would prefer the satisfaction of treating women as trash if I cannot get them for sex anyway. The incel community is very diverse. Most incels are not bitter toward women, they just feel cheated or scammed by society, and lonely, and they do h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:22 PM |
| 5 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousdo you really think there’s no such thing as a happy, single, unmedicated woman? Sure there are, I just find it odd that they NEED to scream how HAPPY they are SINLGE as if anyone cared. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:20 PM |
| 7 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousWhat makes you think women live in “tutorial mode”? because it’s easier for them to get laid? Not only get laid, but also get relationships and love. You just have to go to a bar, smile and open legs in public to show a guy you live him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:19 PM |
| 6 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousBecause it comes off as incredibly entitled and whiny, as opposed to it being a genuine problem. Are you talking about men never getting any chance or women whining about losing like 30% of interest from men and getting crazy and becoming karens? Not the same thing. But if you then change that to ''well, actually, I am getting laid but not as much/as often as I want to'', it just sounds like a kid whining that they didn't get as much candy as they wanted to. But it is true. Men usually don't use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousI do think women can be more romantic than men but on burst of time, women's "love" (if it can be called as such) is ephemeral. Men can be more romantic on average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuous...all the cooking, cleaning, and childcare services that their wives provided for free. I mean, you have to clean, cook, etc. even if you live alone and no one pay you. I guess I have to wait for my check for wiping my own ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousIt is all semantics. In a sense you can also not be broke without money if you live with your parents and they give you everything, tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:10 PM |
| – | Are cels actually involuntary?Sometimes they can, SEAmaxxing works for many men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:09 PM |
| 2 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipSure, that is your subjective perspective and it is valid. I mean, some men find not finding love and sex worse than death and kill themselves, so there is some subjectivity there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 04:03 PM |
| – | Are cels actually involuntary?No amount of exercise can make you taller. No number of social skills can erase your autism. If men get better, women just put pussy the price tag higher. So yes, *cels can buy a prostitute or even get a fake wife in a 3rd world country, but that is not what they want. They want to be loved. Women live in tutorial mode for dating and at worse they just share the guy or wait for their time, so they cannot relate. My only revenge fantasy is the fact most of those women who choose to be moms will h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 04:01 PM |
| 3 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipDying is still worse than rape, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:58 PM |
| 0 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousmom’s hugs and kisses only matter if you want mentally, emotionally, and physically healthy children. Agreed, but still not enough. A "paycheck" may be the only difference between living on the streets and not getting the nutrition necessarily to grow and be tall enough to not be an incel. After all, single moms are basically factories of criminals and incels, so their kisses are not that effective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:57 PM |
| 6 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousJust asking, why do you care so much about male celibacy in such binary terms? It sucks to not be able to get intimate for months as much as never getting intimacy. Maybe subjectively not the same type of pain, but the same struggle of not getting sex. The difference is not that significant for the conversation. Women will never understand this, but they do understand losing part of that privilege. After they get old or fat and lose like 50% of male attention, they freak out and that is the time… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:54 PM |
| 0 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousSleep pills? LOL they use that too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:46 PM |
| 10 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousTo adjust the analogy, you are de facto homeless if you move out of your parent's house now with not enough money to pay rent. The sad thing is that you may have a job and get money and still may not be enough for pay a rent. For men, that is the case for dating. This is caused by the lust gap. observe I'm not blaming women or men for this, it is nature. The only advantage I see for men here is that they can be happier with way less than women because men are not spoiled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipmaybe the term "Desperate" is too extreme. Most men know that if they are single they will not get sex for months, maybe years. That is enough motivation to not leave relationships. Compare that to women who can get a date in a week or sex in like 10 minutes using an app. I don't understand why you find this controversial? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipMen are more powerful than women on other aspects, I'm talking in the aspect of dating and sex, in which women are obviously privileged beyond belief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:32 PM |
| 6 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousI agree it is not the best term, but not having sex for 2 years is not that much different from never having sex. In a sense, having sex once every many years may actually make you feel worse, as failing in life or just knowing what you lose. Also not all incels hate women. Women want to believe that to have an excuse hate those men, and incel is a slur for autistic men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:32 PM |
| 2 | You cant hate the opposite gender and expect to succeed in datingAny look at any bad relationships prove you wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:29 PM |
| 0 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipWhat makes you think I hate men for just describing What Is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:27 PM |
| 14 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousMost guys aren’t incels. Most single guys cannot get even 10% of the sex they want. They are de facto incels. Women don't. They can get dick in literally 10 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousMaybe you are just getting used to it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousWell, if men can get sex without commitment, yes. Men don't romantize contracts as women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:25 PM |
| -2 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousI believe you should have some kind of commitment and emotional connection before you get physical. That is still a choice, though. Men don't usually have any choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:24 PM |
| -6 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousAlong with working full time, these moms did all the housework and childcare. Dad barely lifted a finger and was praised when he did. He also called parenting his own damn kid "babysitting." Men usually contribute more economically. That is way more important to survive, no one survives on mom's kisses and hugs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:23 PM |
| 8 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousWomen tend to be happier than men when single because we have fulfilling friendships that give us much of what men experience while dating. Antidepressants as vitamins even living in tutorial mode Fixed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:22 PM |
| -4 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousMen can easily stay in a bad relationship because it gives them status, and they just can watch porn if they get no sex. Men also don't attach to relationships and commitment as much as women, so it is not that important for them if there is love or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipis the woman in question sixteen by any chance Children usually know that dreams are not real by 7. Women still choose to do this shit, tho. Even being 16 is no excuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:18 PM |
| -2 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.No idea, but many bedrooms are dead, and it seems women initiate most divorces (even lesbian couples break up more, so it is not about paper work only) so that suggests men get something even if they get no sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 03:04 PM |
| 3 | Men aren't allowed to be stereotyped positivelyBut that personal perspective does not change the fact you are still limited in options in life and lifestyle. You can find a homeless person that is happy, for sure, but you know that lifestyle is not ideal. We are kind of in between homeless and unbelievable rich and wealthy and good looking people that get literally everything in this life and we never will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:57 PM |
| -2 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipNo they don’t. They can opt out of dating hellish women. They can, but no sex for months adds up and end up being worse. We need pussy so we need to support anything attached to it. For perspective, even if you are a top man and can get any woman for sex, you still to invest lots of money and time in her. So no, men don't have it easier in all sexual classes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:54 PM |
| 7 | Saying that unlike men women today are "happier single" is very disingenuousI think men who always scream they are happy single are like the passport bros that scream they are happy dating foreign women. Both are trying to make the other gender feel bad. Women do can deal with being single better because: Women have options for sex and relationships anyway. Women use antidepressants as vitamins, which is insane considering they live in tutorial mode and yet they need pills to be happy. Women are not considered a threat for being single as men are. Both men and women get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipMake her feel you can’t resist her and tell her no other woman turns you on as much as she does. But that is not true. Most men can get horny with other women, she is not the only one with a pussy. Still men invest emotionally and economically in one woman so it makes no sense to cheat and it is not very nice to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:47 PM |
| 5 | Men aren't allowed to be stereotyped positivelyI don't describe it to make you or anyone depressed, but as a reality of social and sexual classes. In a sense, knowing about this make us happier if we either improve or fall into acceptance of our inferior place. Women are not to blame here, neither are top men for enjoying their privilege. I think all forms of life create a hierarchy anyway, naturally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:45 PM |
| 5 | Men aren't allowed to be stereotyped positivelyI describe society, today and in the past, as a Humberger. Top there are men fucking all women they can, middle there are women looking to get top men, bottom there are men doing the worst fighting for a few ugly women. It is sad, but if you look carefully modern society is designed to obfuscate this reality. Films deny reality all the time. New Age and false positivity movements do the same. Reality is just too ugly to look at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:28 PM |
| – | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestIDK it seems like the window of acceptable interactions gets narrower and narrower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:20 PM |
| 5 | Men aren't allowed to be stereotyped positivelyBut you can generalize that about men too. If you use the past as an example for men having privilege, you are still assuming that 10% of top privileged men represent all men today. Most men did not know how to read a few hundred ago, they did the most disgusting and dangerous jobs just as today. When you point out male privilege, you are looking at a very tiny minority of top men from 50 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:19 PM |
| 3 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipThat is a joke from Hillary Clinton saying that "Primary victims of war are women". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.You think a cashier woman working 60 hours a week has dating easy? Ironically she probably is the most likely to get offers from men during her work because exposition to many men from different types. Sure, most of those offers will be rejected, but a few ill be valuable men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.It does not matter if looks is even 1% of their interest, at the end they don't give a chance to prove the 99% if you have no looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.RP is not pessimistic, it is utilitarian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.iT wAs tHe lAw oF atTrActIoN aNd SatUrN oN GEmInIS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.Just stop spreading lies and stop claiming stuff you have no idea about, that can be more than enough. Women have such arrogance to think they understand everything without knowing basic shit they cannot even experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.Women tend to be completely oblivious to how one sided many relationships really are, they have no idea what's going on behind the scenes to keep things going. The believe it is the Universe working or astrology or some shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.Women just tend to completely lack empathy for men I do observe women have empathy for men but only if it is their sons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:04 PM |
| -3 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipYes, everyone knows the real burden of pregnancy is borne by men. Men are the real victims of pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:02 PM |
| -5 | Men still do more emotional labor than women in a relationshipWomen still have more leverage on a relationship, so she has no excuse if she is dating insecure men. Meanwhile, men have to take what they get, so they have to deal with hellish women for sex. Thanks God they are horny, otherwise they would never be with those women (which are like half of them) and we would go extinct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 02:01 PM |
| 13 | Men aren't allowed to be stereotyped positivelyWomen have historically lacked ways to express themselves artistically or help further our knowledge in science. I always have problems with this claim because it suggests women are too weak or stupid to stand on themselves until men gave them permission to. Also women who have created businesses and deal with big issues have always existed, such as queens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:59 PM |
| 0 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.I would have no problem to be in a relationship and get the status and company even with no sex... as long as others assume I'm getting sex, I'm OK. I mean, porn can be enough and real women are boring at bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:58 PM |
| 3 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.The problem isn't the lack of sex itself, it's the lack of validation that comes with being considered a suitable mating partner by the opposite sex. It's the need to feel wanted and desired that often manifests with sexual acts. Exactly. I would have no problem to be in a relationship and get the status and company but no sex. I mean, porn can be enough and real women are boring at bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:56 PM |
| – | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestHuh, and here I thought friends helped each other move all the time. Women as friends are pretty useless for men except for finding social interactions with potential partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:46 PM |
| – | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badPlenty of autistic people don’t want to be associated with fucking incels. But most incels are autistic, and also most incels are not terrorists nor hate women. You are just rejecting one prejudice with another prejudice you like better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Marrying in your 20s is not that badI think you have a bias. Being married in your 20s made you learn to pick better. If you married first late in your 30s, you probably would make the same mistake you did in your 20s anyway, but at least younger you can fix it, but when you are old consequence last longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:42 PM |
| 5 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestThere is alot of "Inbetween" room between a social parasite and a creep. But if the guy is hot enough, asking directly is not creepy, in fact it is seen as bold and brave. Any in between is just friendzoning. Very unfair. Even if you get over a friend as a crush, it does not matter because you may use that time and resources and favors on someone that likes you back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:53 PM |
| – | You never think that maybe it's better to just work out constantly rather that find partner?Agreed, but I think at that age the issue is apathy. Relationships are not that attractive anymore and they feel like a chore. You have your assets, some good job, etc. But it is still hellish because you know that comfort is not good long run... you will be decades alone, without family while others are around. But there is no energy now to change that. It is over but ending it all probably is not an option either because you don't want to make your mom sad. So you are trapped in a lonely life … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:49 PM |
| 4 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestWomen don't want you as a "friend" if you only become "friends" in hopes of dating that person in the future. So you agree in direct, aggressively asking out? Are PUA friends? But don't end the friendship if the feelings arent mutual. But don't you think that is a little unfair for the part that fell in love? No matter if that is the man or the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:44 PM |
| 10 | Are there any women in favor of the passport bro movement?I think mothers of those men usually support them. Mothers are very empathic to their boys finding love, even far away. I love you mom :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:32 PM |
| 9 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestSelfishness, utilitarianism and transactionalism are not considered emotionally mature if you want to have social relationships It would be way more immature to continue a social relationship in terms you don't want. Imagine how needy and stupid you have to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:31 PM |
| 13 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestIf you are becoming friends with people just in the hopes of getting into relationship with the friend later on, , it's not very "mature" or social behaviour for that matter. I thought women suggest men you to make her a friend before asking her out because directly asking her out feels wrong? Again, more contradictory bullshit from women. Not to mention that emotions may raise later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:30 PM |
| 28 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestMake no mistake... if you stay around she will still use you. You will have to help her move her stuff if she moves, you will have to drive her around, etc. If a woman is not giving you a chance, keep your dignity and stop being her friend. That friendship will never be equal as long as there is or was some attraction. She will just use you as a boyfriend or husband without giving you sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 02:28 PM |
| 1 | This is how my small(ish) company of only ≈500 approaches men’s mental health. This is supported and encouraged all the way down to the team leads.“Encourage men to take responsibility for their own well-being” leaves a bad mouth is applied to women being beaten for dating criminals and dangerous men. Again, it is toxic to point out women also have responsibility for their decisions. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/23 02:26 PM |
| 5 | No home for you. Kevin Costner vowed to have ironclad prenup after being left homeless from first marriage.Don't get married. Much better advice. Sad thing is when you are considered married for just living with her or having a symbolic religious non legal marriage. Teh judge can just say "well, it is basically a marriage" and make you pay anyway. | /r/MensRights | 16/06/23 02:00 PM |
| 3 | No one will take our male points seriously if you make memes or comments about "hypocritical" women and this is you at the top. seriously they don't care so let's focus on more pressing issues regarding men.Look up how many school shooters were on SSRIs. Negative emotions are there for a reason, usually because your life sucks and needs to be fixed. Pushing pills to it does not fix anything long run, even if it can help for a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:05 PM |
| – | Men need lots of prior experience in order to maintain their relationshipsAnd at the end of the day, those women are still taking responsibility for the situation. Agree, and I'm not criticizing that. However, the idea that one woman alone can raise a healthy child with no problem is toxic. For most people, that is very hard or impossible. The hubris of some women thinking the man does not matter cost their children being social outcasts, or criminals or asocial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:05 PM |
| – | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsIncels cannot teach other men either, but they don't claim to. In fact they are fully honest. But I observe you are using that word as a slur for austistic men, in which case that is very sad and evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:02 PM |
| 1 | You never think that maybe it's better to just work out constantly rather that find partner?Damn dude might as well kill yourself by age 30 then with that logic. If you did not develop in your 20s, your 30s are going downhill even faster. In the past you had teen children or soon grandchildren a little later, so people has a purpose to be in that age. Today? Just wait for Apple Vision Pro. Dating is for younger people, and if you did not date younger your lack of experience is very disabling to date older. It is hellish. I don't recommend as I live it. I swear, if I have a boy and he w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:54 PM |
| – | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.Yeah, that is an impulse. To tamer the man into a civilized one but keeping him a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:52 PM |
| 3 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badMen being systematically killed in Ukraine while women fucking other men in Europe should wake up all men in the West. YOUR life is being used as a resources and they don't care if you are dead. Women, System, government... they don't see men as human. Literally no reason to pay taxes. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:40 PM |
| 4 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badI find it odd the same happens to minorities. It is justified for minorities to get angry and violent to people who uses slurs against them, but for some reason men cannot be angry for being treated as trash. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:39 PM |
| 2 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badOnly a matter of time before these guys snap due to society constantly being against them. I think that is the point. This strategy seems to be like some people basically relying on treating incel men as trash to feel superior and belonging. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:37 PM |
| 3 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badWomen cannot be incels, they usually are emcels... emotionally celibate, unable to get commitment. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:36 PM |
| 5 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badThe point is to have an excuse to hate autistic men. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:35 PM |
| 12 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badWhen a woman has problems and asks for help people leap in to assist. You mean like taking 4 different antidepressants instead fixing their lives after dating in tutorial mode? | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:33 PM |
| 6 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badThe irony is that those insecure daddy issue women are the factories of these autistic incel guys. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:33 PM |
| 13 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badIncel is a slur word for autistic. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/23 09:31 PM |
| 4 | ‘Quite depressing’: Incel community was so sad researchers studying it felt badIncel is a slur word for autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:31 PM |
| 1 | You never think that maybe it's better to just work out constantly rather that find partner?Tons of people meet and get married after 30. No romance. After that age, relationships are barely transactions, it is hard to share time and space, assets are already established, etc. You also see that in weddings, they are low effort. Women have more baggage, men are not that horny so they don't try to fuck as much, etc. It is a downhill from there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:30 PM |
| 1 | You never think that maybe it's better to just work out constantly rather that find partner?I do feel that working out frees my mind and makes me feel better than trying to find a partner. It is a no brainer, a positive hobby and not a loss of time as trying to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:29 PM |
| 3 | No one will take our male points seriously if you make memes or comments about "hypocritical" women and this is you at the top. seriously they don't care so let's focus on more pressing issues regarding men.Women below are in 4 different antidepressants and their kids are incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:27 PM |
| – | Men need lots of prior experience in order to maintain their relationshipsI find it odd that we are living in the age of equality, but when SHTF such as Ukraine or during a divorce, then the responsibility always returns to the man who supposedly was equal. But why do women choose those men? The choose men that had kids from previous relationships, obviously that means the guy has divided time for her kids. They choose to have kids with men that are not up for commitment. Women stop using birth control or open legs to those men. Men don't have even close the options o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:24 PM |
| – | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsIt is very sad. By the way, I'm not removing any responsibility for those fathers, but if the guy has children with other women or is married with another, obviously he will not be able to be there all the time. Women have to be wise and not date those men for having children if they really want a healthy family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:16 PM |
| – | Men need lots of prior experience in order to maintain their relationshipsThe problem is not how women raise kids, but the men they choose to have those kids and then blame all men and make others pay for their terrible decisions, even having all options. Single moms do what they can, but raising a kid alone is not easy and not healthy for the kid to not have a father figure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:13 PM |
| – | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsI'm sure abuse from father or mother can affect raising, of course, but I'm talking about the usual presence of a parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:11 PM |
| – | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsLobbying is not really very effective for groups seen as "privileged" such as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 09:08 PM |
| 41 | What female PPD users pretend they look VS what they actually look like.Women love Lizzo and claim she is beautiful. Now tell a woman she looks as beautiful as Lizzo and see how it goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 04:02 PM |
| 3 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsBy the way, I'm not saying that women's influence is negative. I just find that people who grow with adults with both genders are growing to be healthier and more stable, and statistics seem to favor that. I'm sure if mostly men raised children there would also be problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsBecause women choose men who are sexually attractive but terrible fathers and don't wait for his commitment to give him babies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsif they fall pregnant, will likely have the baby. It’s about being able to chose. I guess the man also chooses to be a father... or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:41 PM |
| 2 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsMy point is that those masculine traits are told by example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsMy mom was a widow, so it was a similar issue, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsI disagree. The man usually says he just want fun and sex, and the woman fucks them before any commitment. The woman then marries in her mind and then the problems start. If women did not open the legs to men who don't commit first, they would be luckier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsThey do, but they just perpetuate the problem of single moms by not being responsible, just as the women who choose them. Most of boys from single moms become gamer incels and stuff, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:36 PM |
| 0 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsWomen have more options to choose men than men having more options to choose women, so women have more power to choose responsible men. Women are the ones that fuck men who have children, families or don't care about commitment. Men just fuck whatever they can get. Therefore, women have more sexual responsibility by being the gatekeepers of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Men need lots of prior experience in order to maintain their relationshipsI think a lot of men refusing to be role models are what creates the problem. Women have more options to choose men than men having more options to choose women. Women are the ones that fuck men who have children, families or don't care about commitment. Men just fuck whatever they can get. Therefore, women have more sexual responsibility by being the gatekeepers of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsBoys born to single mothers need to be taken from the mother and placed into a group home run by men that can teach them how to be men. Unironically based. A military boarding school is way better than being raised by the average single mom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:31 PM |
| 0 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsIs it? At the point that a women becomes pregnant. She is at the whims of that man. Whether he stays. Not necessarily. Women have all the support and legal leverage if they leave. They can easily get the shit out of money off the guy. But at the end, she opened legs, having most birth control available and abortion available in most places, she still wants to have the baby. Obviously the man is more likely to be baby trapped here. However, I do agree that the guy becoming an addict or something … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsBecause what works for one guy on a girl won’t necessarily work for another guy. Not even on the same girl sometimes. There are some universal things that most women like, and I think women focus too much on feelings, but men know that strength, confidence, etc. are way more effective and I think only men can teach that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsMy point is that social development is very important. Autism is just an extreme example, but moms simply can't relate to men enough to teach boys to be men. Social development is very important for men to be attractive (while women can literally have no half their brain and still be attractive). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsThat is the problem. Woman will give the boys tips that don't work. Only men can teach other men efficiently on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsThere are may ways in which a kid can be end up being raised by one parent, but it is kind of unreasonable that most of those cases could have been avoided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Men are becoming more conservative, women are moving left.Well, a fuck is a fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Men are becoming more conservative, women are moving left.True. Liberal men are seen as weak, and women openly admit to hate feminist men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:32 PM |
| 10 | Men are becoming more conservative, women are moving left.Exactly. There is literally no reason for the left to hate half the population, but they do. Then wonder why men don't vote for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:32 PM |
| – | Does TRP essentially want women to have to sleep with men they are not truly attracted to?Yes. Just as men have to marry the best they can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Reviving A ClassicThe sad thing of these women is that they give a child to the loser so they are unhappy, bad moms and take bad genetics because desperation to be moms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Reviving A ClassicHe mentions her looks will fade but then says pretty girls don't need careers. Um, okay, what about when her looks fade? Does she need a career then? At that point the idea is the man invested in you enough for not feel compelled to divorce you. Some Women, in their retardation, initiate divorce and then cannot find another guy that earns as much after spending the money they took from their ex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Single moms raising a boy alone will retard his social development into a man for yearsIf she got knocked up by a chad and he inherits his fathers chad genes then he probably wont struggle with women even if he was raised by a single mom. That helps, but it is only half story. Being even slightly autistic can disable a man on dating totally, no matter how attractive. Proof of this is the low percent of autistic men that marry... compared to almost half of average men who do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:17 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menYeah, way healthier than dealing with western women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:15 PM |
| 15 | How redpillers sound sometimesAssuming the kid has no resentment or hate against women, what is wrong with this utilitarian argument? Seems like a wise strategy to take, at least for most of your 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:12 PM |
| 18 | How redpillers sound sometimesMen oppress women YESSS QUEEN PREACH Men today have more to lose in a relationship today YOUUUUU SEXIST PIG, HOW DARE YOU INCEL, STOP SPREADING HATE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.Agreed, but women do make a problem for everyone else when society has to pay for her children because the guy is in jail, or when the man hits the shit out of her... somehow now it is a social problem that other men and actually nice guys have to fix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:09 PM |
| 18 | How redpillers sound sometimesthe woman is essentially doing unpaid labor Men usually have to work more and earn more to be able to get a relationship in the first place. The least a woman can do to balance it is to be useful in the house beside opening legs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 02:08 PM |
| 3 | Men need lots of prior experience in order to maintain their relationshipsI think women raising a guy alone creates a lot of incels and criminals. Men are retarded like 10 years of development when they are raised by single moms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Men need to be child free, amoral and fearless to improve their chances with womenWomen hate to admit it, but they love drama. That is why they date liars, cheaters, etc. and forgive them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:58 PM |
| 12 | why should women date you?I'm a prince. Every man is. As every man, I deserve love for just existing. Any criticism about my body is body shaming. If you don't prefer me, you are fatphobic or heightphobic or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:56 PM |
| 2 | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.Your taste is perfectly understandable. I think women don't really like the bad of the bad guy, but rather the disagreeableness of being bad, the fact you don't care if society considers you anti-social, criminal, violent, etc. yet somehow you treat your loved ones good. This creates a sense of protection from the guy. Of course, the guy may turn violent against her, but that is now what she was looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:19 PM |
| 2 | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.I don't blame women. If SHTF, a bad guy that can turn off feelings can easily survive better than a nice guy. The problem is when the bad guys turn against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:16 PM |
| 4 | it's trueWomen will get praised for doing something a man did 500 years ago. True. Yes they still need government support for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 01:15 PM |
| 3 | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.I agree and most women do want a man with integrity and values, but that is not the nice guy necessarily. There is something disgusting about the nice guys that put women in a pedestal... they do it expecting something from that, and sometimes the irony is that bad guys at least are more honest in that aspect and women kind of see that. Of course, the risk is the relationship will be a disaster, but in terms of dating the bad guys sometimes feel like a prize for the woman, like something unique … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 09:36 PM |
| 2 | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.This is also a good point, there are too many nice guys so that makes some evil and criminal guys kind of interesting. Still I find it quite fascinating women sometimes wait for those guys to go out of jail, leaving behind the nice guy they fucked for years. It is as an addiction or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 09:27 PM |
| 4 | Taylor Swift "The Man" summarized how women see "male privilege"I doubt she would be as famous as a male celebrity, though. Women can suck dick to get there. Men too, but it is less effective. But you do have a good point to consider. I just find it odd even she, being so privileged, complains about men having more privilege. She has to invent an imaginary man for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 09:22 PM |
| 4 | it's trueMen are only applauded sometimes for stuff that men usually don't do, but that does not mean men are not doing anything. For example, Men are actually insulted by wives for staying longer hours to get a better salary for the family and find a job. It is quite insane women are so un-empathic in this aspect. Men are also insulted for not cooking or not cleaning the house, but usually the reason is that they work longer hours and more labor-intensive jobs, so they expect the woman to focus more on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 09:21 PM |
| – | Desperate people aren't really desperate. They're just picky.there are women who are ugly, socially inept, women men won’t even look at. There is always a guy for those women, they just don't give him a chance. Men are OK with average, poor, rich, or even sick women. Women want men to be perfect, earn way more than them, etc. So no, not the same at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 06:10 PM |
| 12 | it's trueEasy for women to be like that when they take antidepressants as vitamins. Imagine living in tutorial mode for dating and social life, and still needing pills to exist. A total failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 06:10 PM |
| 8 | Why are some men so desperate to be in monogamous relationships anyway, it really isn’t that greatI think the main reason is that they want frequent sex, and most women don't give it without some commitment back. But I do agree it is stupid. Observe that most men that are desperate for a relationship has never been in one. They don't know the mess, and how expensive and untrustful western women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 06:08 PM |
| 4 | All women are goddesses and should be worshiped and praised for being the otherworldly beings they are.Nothing make a woman more disgusted* than a man that puts them on a pedestal. They rather fuck criminals that beat them to death than unaware nice guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 06:07 PM |
| 1 | How many relationships are initiated by women in modern dating?Exactly. You can literally make a loving family without marriage, get love, work together, etc. without marriage. States freed all benefits of marriage but kept the liabilities for men there. Sad thing is that some jurisdictions force it in common law marriage. So evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketNot anymore :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 05:52 PM |
| -8 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketMost people eventually become monogamous. Imagine losing your time and chances to find love in your best years of life by locking yourself to one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:27 PM |
| 5 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketGenerally the sort of man who values monogamy, exclusivity, and faithfulness isn't obsessing about tabulating their value relative to their partner as they see an ultimate value in cultivating a long, shared history in which they grow together. That is good, but do you agree that is a risk? If she leaves all that investment is lost. It is putting all eggs in the same basket. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:26 PM |
| -1 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketMen that have sex don’t care about “getting sex more often” at a certain point. The desire for companionship generally begins to outweigh the desire for random sex. Sure, but that is the problem... you lose other skills and potential options to better loving relationships by locking yourself into one. Also there is no guarantee she will also be monogamous, so all that investment and trust... for nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketThe whole premise of this post pretty much argues that non monogamy is preferred cause…. insecurity? I suspect most monogamous men are just involuntary monogamous, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketI could be the best man I could be, hell the best man to live, and still end up alone. That's what losing is. Agreed, same for me. In this sense, it is involuntary monogamy that we try to justify by identifying as monogamous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:21 PM |
| 10 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketIs staying single and banging random women until I’m too old and unattractive to do it anymore some kind of life win? The funny thing is that men who spin plates are more likely to find a woman they actually want a monogamous relationship with. Meanwhile, if they are exclusive they have a blind spot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:20 PM |
| 0 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketWomen carry these same risks in monogamy but it is more severe. Not only do women have more options they have to exclude, they are investing the most valuable resource of all, youth. I thought women say that they are valuable and attractive at any age? Even if women lost 70% of their attractiveness, they still have more options than average men. You can only be faithful if you have options. Someone who isn't fucking other people only because no one else will fuck them is not monogamous. That is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:19 PM |
| 4 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketYeah, but that also limits their options. They may get better but they can't because they are locked. They may also lose dating skills as they are partnered. The sad thing is that nothing of that is rewarded, but rather unfaithful men are rewarded with best options and most sex and diversity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:16 PM |
| -8 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketYou might say that ‘plate spinning’ aka dating nonmonogamously while hinting at or dangling the possibility of a monogamous relationship is the most successful strategy, and that may be true in an absolute sense. I agree, and it is ethical too. You may be religious and do this, for example, because as long as there is no commitment it is allowed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Men who believe in monogamy, exclusivity and being faithful lose in this dating marketChad could believe in monogamy and faithfulness, or not, and still win. What matters is superficial characteristics like looks and "charisma", not your individual values. But chad would get more women and more sex if he was not monogamous, and even if he was he probably would have more options by not practicing it until finding "the one". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:12 PM |
| 2 | How many relationships are initiated by women in modern dating?Men leave women because of good reasons that are caused by her. Women don't really invest anything in marriage beside opening legs, it makes sense for them to not appreciate the contact and flake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:03 PM |
| 1 | How many relationships are initiated by women in modern dating?Most divorces are filed by women. Lesbian divorce rates are way higher than those of gay couples, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 04:01 PM |
| 6 | 'Liberal Woman' Goes Viral On TikTok For Saying It's Hard To Find 'Masculine' Man Who's Not ConservativeAlthough there ARE left guys who would still be willing to have their "masculine and traditional" roles, it's not something that you can demand. That would be against their own interests. Imagine the cognitive dissonance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 03:50 PM |
| 4 | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingWomen really don't express attraction so you have to keep failing until you find one that admits it. It is pointless for average men in the age of apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 07:41 PM |
| 4 | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingIt is a shit test. The lesson is to ignore what women say and do whatever you want that is not illegal, even if it bothers older women that you are hitting on younger ones, they can seethe. Women say contradictory and stupid things all the time to justify their current emotions and manipulate men. Just don't be stupid enough to listen if she is not your wife or an important woman in your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 07:39 PM |
| 2 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenSo in this aspect men who are violent and beat women are also victims of the pattern, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 06:33 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerAre those men forcing those men to stay? Are those women with no other options but shitty men? I doubt it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Older men dating much younger womenWeird, since women never date men who earn less than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:59 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSlave women were treated the worst of all. Were they? I would say starving or dying a painful death working is worse than being raped, but we have blind spots. I don't know how subjectively bad is rape for women because I'm not a woman. I also have never starved or been a slave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:56 PM |
| 6 | How many relationships are initiated by women in modern dating?Men rarely initiate relationships if they get sex and company. Only when the condition for sex is a relationship, they take it seriously. So I would say women push for relationships the most, but men are the ones that have to make them official with a ring or something. Most women also have intention to marry compared to men. Men are OK with a forever GF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:54 PM |
| 2 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerMy reasons are that men have way less options on dating than women. If you choose the same bad product even having countless options, it is likely that you are the problem and not the bad product. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:53 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerMen have too few options. Women have all power to choose high quality men, but they don't. Men just have to deal with the best they get by chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:47 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSo you can envy women all you like for whatever advantages you think they may have, and empathise with their struggles in life. I don't envy single moms, which is hard, but I resent the fact they have all power and they still find a way to lose in tutorial mode, and make random men and taxpayers pay for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:46 PM |
| 1 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerOnly reason some men had all power was because all wealth-producing labor was by force that men had the most, so men had all the power. As jobs became more intellectual, women got more power. However, in reality most societies had the hamburger structure: Top men on the top, women in the middle and slave men on the bottom. Yes, men in the bottom had it way worse than women. One struggle is being property, another is being property and being forced to choose to die for a king or starve. I would c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:45 PM |
| 1 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSuppose an extreme example: if 90% of men were shitty and only 10% women were shitty. Can we blame women for choosing shitty men? Only if they had no options. Clearly women can choose that 10% of good men but they don't, so they have greater responsibility. Most Men can only take what they get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:41 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerThese are truly bizarre since you are blaming women for men being shitty. Both are being shitty, but women have more options and power, and yet they use it wrong. If you have countless options to eat but you choose to eat the same unhealthy shit again and again, you can blame the creator of the product as shitty but more likely you have shitty decision skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:39 PM |
| 2 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerIf women can abort to avoid being single moms, then men shall be able to paper abort and avoid being single dads. It is not so hard to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:38 PM |
| 1 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerI was married and I waited for him to give me the green light to come off birth control. You took a wise decision. Some women believe they are already married if they have sex with a guy twice a month so they stop birth control. Lots of men are very clear they don't want a relationship, but she resents them when he does not commit... basically the guy was honest, she opened legs and expected to change his mind. That is so stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:36 PM |
| 1 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerI'm not NEET, sadly I would be homeless if I did. I just work enough for myself and paying the least taxes to this degenerate evil society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:35 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerYeah, Losing in tutorial mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:34 PM |
| -2 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerMen lie and say theyll stay. Society in general normalizes sexual relationships with no goal of leading to marriage, even at a young age, and these can lead to pregnancy. Women still believe after like100 red flags... but hey, at least he is hot, he may have children with other women or be out of jail, but whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:33 PM |
| 2 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSame others may say that abortion perpetuates culture of murder, so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Older men dating much younger womenRevenge fantasy, though. Men's sperm quality is not even close to women's eggs quality, which drops after 25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Older men dating much younger womenIt's pathetic because seeing a woman old enough to be your daughter as a potential sexual partner is disgusting. This is a weird argument. Men being 10 years older cannot be her father, and yet that gap is considered bad. You can also claim you do not date similar age because it would feel like dating a sibling... what a stupid argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Older men dating much younger womenThey have 0 reason to talk to me or approach me. That is a little classist, though. Not everyone talking to you is trying to fuck you. I find that publicly humiliating people who do this works fantastically at deterring this behaviour. In my opinion a 40+ year old hitting on a woman in her 20s is pathetic as fuck. Men who do fuck younger women don't really care. You are probably shaming a man that just wanted to talk or be nice. Daily reminder for men to never help women struggling changing a ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:29 PM |
| 0 | Older men dating much younger womenWe'd have much less in common with a man from a previous generation compared to one from our own. Hobbies, interests, habits, fashions.. MONEY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:27 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerThey are terrible men, but sadly many women ignore red flags until it is too late. If you are scammed by a good scammer, you are a victim. If you are scammed by an obvious scammer and you continue the transaction anyway, you are a sucker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Is there any mutually beneficial path here?I suspect men who have success with women are those who talk about personal things quickly. Not necessarily sexual, but about what do you like, what do you do, etc. without also making it like an interview, rather saying jokes and so about what is being discussed. Nerds, autistic, shy men, etc. talk about interesting things about the world or interesting facts or about politics, but they don't get into the US energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSo a grown ass man believes women shouldn't have abortions unless men have paper abortions? H I did not try to say that in terms of banning abortion, but rather most men don't care nor fight for those rights because they don't have the same rights. Same with men's issues, women are not empathic to them at all, even supposedly married women and women who want equality don't care shit men's issues, so men should not care about women's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:19 PM |
| 0 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerI'm 31 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:56 PM |
| 6 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerYeah, and bad-decision women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:41 PM |
| 2 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating power"incompatible" is such a flaky reason tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:40 PM |
| 4 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerNEET is the way for men. Or you can not cause a woman to be a single mum. Women still have all power, though. They use it bad? Their problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:22 PM |
| 4 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerWho has literal 800$ courses by multiple content creators and "dating experts" promising to teach men how to basically manipulate women into bed? No one can "manipulate" you into sex unless you are under drugs. At the end you are the one who open legs. Those PUA techniques were targeted on women already looking for sex anyway. It does not work at the long run for women who choose to be girlfriends with those men who clearly don't want anything but sex, yet women promise themselves they will "cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:21 PM |
| -3 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerDo you think it would be generally better for all these women to have an abortion right away or do you sympathize more with them giving birth to the child despite adverse circumstances and trying to raise it as single mothers? I cannot favor abortion either as long as paper abortion is not a right for men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:16 PM |
| 4 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerThere are more women having voting power, though. Government also has interest of making men pay rather than paying it themselves or through taxpayers. So it makes sense for the government to side with women to take the most wealth from productive men. It is just collective greed and servitude, which always existed on individuals, but now is on classes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:13 PM |
| 2 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerMost women are smart enough to not end up as single moms raising children of bad men, but too many of them are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:11 PM |
| 8 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSame :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:11 PM |
| – | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerThey have plenty of options. Even if they don't like nice men either, they can date men in between. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:10 PM |
| 6 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerSadly, dating them or not, taxpaying men have to pay for their decisions, with no exchange of sex or love. Remember men pay over 80% of taxes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:09 PM |
| – | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerI'm not denying men have responsibility too, but women having all dating and sexual power gives them the end word and yet they end up losing anyway in tutorial mode. Imagine having the options to date shy yet good and decent and wealthy men yet you choose men who are already taken or who are dangerous because the "high". Literally inexcusable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:08 PM |
| 7 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerMen having less dating options and/or being more desperate doesn't absolve them from the accountability for their kids. I never said it did | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:06 PM |
| 7 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerMen only made civilization to get sex that is controlled by women. Just as men are not entitled to sex, women are not entitled to men's labor or support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:04 PM |
| 11 | It is hard to be empathic to women's struggles in single motherhood when they have literally all sexual and dating powerI'm empathic to children of single moms, as you can see I'm not blaming them of anything. I'm sure there are many women who are not single moms by choice, and women who honestly were scammed by good looking men who promised commitment and staying. However, given that so many of those men already have children with other women, or are criminals, or never promised anything yet women fuck them... it is easy to assume women just ignored those red flags intentionally. Sadly, I have to make generaliza… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexI'm sure women have struggles, but not on sex on dating. AR/VR can help with that, so men get the most benefits. If you feel women's struggles are not known enough, you are welcome to make posts about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:56 PM |
| 0 | Even if Female Nature is true, there's no benefit being mad at it and we must accept it for what it isThere is still some benefit for men dating women, but it is marginal. Honestly, often thing women have to do today is to exist and not be so fat, and give the guy sex, and apparently even asking for that is sexist. Meanwhile, women ask for all kind of stupid things like men being over 6' even when less than 20% of them are like that, men earning over 100k even if less than 5% of men earn that, etc. Totally delusional. Even if they do settle for average, they expect the guy to pay for everything,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.So it's women's fault for being single mothers? Who has all full control on the sexual market? Women Who is dating irresponsible men and giving them sex without any guarantee of commitment or exclusivity? Women Who is dating men who have children with other women, or are married? Women Who has the most options for birth control and abortion? Women Who courts and government and laws favor if all the previous fails? Women I can continue, and as you observe women have way more points of power and y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexIt was very obviously meant to make women feel bad you mention zero benefits for women and claimed we were the ones who don’t offer men real love which is why they would resort to virtual reality in the first place right? I can't rely to women on this because I'm not a woman, but you are welcome to present those AR/VR benefits for women. Also, I'm more empathic to men on this because they struggle the most with dating. Women on dating are living in tutorial mode. No matter how disgusting a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:31 PM |
| 1 | You cannot build confidence because it is a self regulatory psychological mechanism.I disagree you cannot build confidence. You can, but some of us start in hell, others start in heaven. Simply there is no fairness in the starting point and the circumstances that help up develop our confidence, but confidence can still be developed. Sadly, some traits like neuroticism make it way harder, but I'm sure those traits exist for an evolutionary/divine reason and can help in other aspects you life... believe it or not, confidence is not everything, sometimes insecure people are the mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:23 PM |
| 3 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.If men and women were the same, why the fuck would they find interest in each other? Precisely these differences are the ones that fill the gaps and desires of each other and help them complement. Hypocrisy would be to ignore these differences, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.I never said it is an easy life, but rather women receive all support as single moms and praised for just doing the basic thing that any mom should do. At the end they end up raising criminals anyway, so we pay them to raise dangerous citizens that put a burden to everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Dating apps would be healthier if they show how many matches a profile has.Sadly you are probably right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:18 PM |
| 3 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenIf so: why are you only focusing on women? Because beating women is already illegal, men are punished hard for treating women bad, society and police protects women, etc. Women, however, are the weak link that allow those men to keep doing wrong to them. Those Women keep enabling them. You can argue those women are not responsible because they are victims, but what stops us from claiming the same about the men? Maybe the perpetrator men were also victims of bad socialization. It goes both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:18 PM |
| 0 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexIs apple or a software company making money off of you better? Unironically, yes, I prefer to enrich big companies than average entitled angry women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexCool. What is this post for? Are women supposed to get scared and submit to these men because they won’t want real women anymore? Women shall welcome it they don't have to keep themselves pretty anymore. Women can also benefit with AR, so I don't think this is to make women feel bad, they also get benefits off this. And since I’m not single, with my high standards and all, with my desire for a physically attractive, respectful, independent, kind, patient, funny, doting, sociable, loving, amazing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexit will be an excellent replacement for sex with women. That is the dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:07 PM |
| 2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexAt the end, everyone kind of wins or loses the least. Women don't get creepy men around hitting on them, those shy men don't have to put meaningless effort in women they will never get anyway, men who have sex will have more options, etc. I wonder if this universe is made for suffering, but we always default back to the least amount of suffering we can get, and tech just disturbed the trend for a while but now tech is also regulating back to the least amount of suffering. It just took longer for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:06 PM |
| 0 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexI'm stupid, but not that stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.Totally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.Hysterectomy are usually not done for birth control. You are comparing two different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 12:52 PM |
| – | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isYeah, this is a great point. I wonder why so many people oppose student debt but don't care or say anything about universities being like 10x more expensive in a few years. WTF, did classes have holograms or something? Even during covid when infrastructure was not as stressed, they still had to pay for shitty professors and classes that are not that better from 20 years ago and yet way more expensive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.Ultimate accountability would be for women not to get pregnant. You still rely on social rules to force a man to stay. Exactly. Man got her pregnant? Well, your problem. Cope and pay. Woman got pregnant? Here you have options to abortion, adoption, or we give literal taxpayer money for you just existing. We also force the man to pay even if you tricked him to get pregnant. We also put him in jail if he loses his job and cannot get another in a month. You are a queen. We love you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:38 PM |
| -1 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.Women claim they are childfree too, the cuck husband get a vasectomy but unfortunately it is irreversible. She ends up with baby fever and leaves the guy to get another that is fertile. So many stories like this. So many stories like this. Vasectomies are not as reversible, so they are not a viable option to men that want to at least have the option to be fathers or at least have leverage of fertility in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:36 PM |
| -4 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.Just dont cum inside a woman and there wont be any abortions. So you don't need abortion either, just stop cum from inside yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:34 PM |
| -4 | Ultimate accountability would make men's and women's life easier.Your "accountability" conversation seems to be more about moving responsibility to men only instead of women too, while still leaving all benefits to women. You are also confabulating responsibility of pregnancy and motherhood/parenthood. A woman may feel responsible of a pregnancy but not to be a mother (adoption). Men therefore shall also be able to walk away from fatherhood, after paying their fair share on pregnancy expenses and risks as an equalizer. No need to trap the man for 18 years if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexRealism is not always desirable. I prefer to eat a silicon ass than a real ass, for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexApparently, Apple Vision will have higher resolution and be Augmented reality rather than VR, but we will see if people adopt it. But porn is porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexI'm not desiring anything weird, but plenty of men are, and more will as they realize virtual girls don't feel anything. Remember how eating ass was disgusting 10 years ago but now everyone does it? I still find disgusting, but porn and how you are able to watch it also changes a lot of things. VR/AR may be the next step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexVirtual chicks are eternal, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexAR may add a layer of realism to this, also the new Apple Vision will have way higher resolution than just putting a phone on your face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:21 PM |
| 3 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexI feel we are talking about different things. Men who rely on VR porn usually gave up on dating in real life and don't attempt to make women uncomfortable. I'm glad they find VR comfort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 09:03 PM |
| 1 | If you aren't Red Pill or Black Pill are you Blue Pill by default ?I have a bluepill facade for social credit, pretending. It is safer to pretend and honestly women don't deserve to know, better they find later in the relationship. I have a blackpill view of dating for me. I have a redpill view about dating reality in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexAlmost all would still orefer a woman though. Only because it is the best they can get, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexSorry, how are they making it your fault? They barely leave their room. Not every guy was born neurotypical and with good genes. In a sense this discrimination is akin to racism but since it is socially accepted, people get high picking on these poor men. Very sad. The most tech helps these men to not kill themselves (which does affect their parents and friends that have children like these, even if you don't are about the ones that killed themselves), the better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Dating apps would be healthier if they show how many matches a profile has.I think apps shall give pairs of pic to compare and pick the most attractive, to create a ranking. Then using this comparison, people are assigned a percentile and only presented with people in their percentile. 1st percentile women with 1st percentile men, 40th percentile women with 40th percentile men, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:19 PM |
| 7 | Dating apps would be healthier if they show how many matches a profile has.Sadly, you are probably right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexTo be fair, real women look worse and worse by the years. Fatter, bright color hair, tattoos... porn actress usually keep themselves looking pure and youth looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/standard-deviations/201609/when-porn-consumption-goes-sex-crimes-go-down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexAgreed, and it is insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:03 PM |
| 4 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexWhat happens when you let the incels win? "Incels" not winning anything, they are still single and lonely but now they can cope better. I don't get what is the fixation to want to make those poor men more miserable than they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:01 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Dating gets harder - not easier - for men as they ageRevenge fantasy is the idea that at some point down the line the people who rejected us or made us wrong will "pay", and it seems your post is a revenge fantasy on incel men. This may be true, but in most cases it is just a fantasy we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel good. I may be wrong, but so it seems that is what the subtext of your post suggests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:45 PM |
| -2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexThey probably more utility than a modern wife. Well, smart phones already do better than wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:33 PM |
| 8 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenI agree, it is the same as addicts, but just as we do with addicts, just leave them on their own and provide support if they do want to improve. If a woman returns to an abusive man on her own, it is her decision, and she is the only one that can break that cycle. Separating women from these men by force only kind of make them more attracted to them, probably because they feel empathy for the man. It is kind of fucked up, but any thing we may do makes it worse, best we can do is give support if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Dating gets harder - not easier - for men as they ageYes and no. If you are a very hot man and you had your best years as a younger man, yes, it will be harder to find love as you get older and uglier. But most men are not rich and at great shape being young. If you just was a nerd as a young man and did not develop social skills, but then made good money and improved social skills, you can have the best years of your life even in your late 30s and 40s. It is all about relative perspective of the person. Best time to improve was 10 years ago. Next… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexHigher resolution, more sensors and hopefully normalization of VR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexI'm not judging. Hopefully content is AI generated to the point real women that depend on sex work get broke. No one shall be rich for just showing genitals, but that is just my personal view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexAnd good luck to bring porn into Apple's walled garden. I'm sure it is already there, and usually apple regulates content less than it regulates apps. I can download songs using bittorrent and listen them in apple devices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:21 PM |
| 3 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexThe biggest hurdle with masturbation toys as a man is the stigma. Which will prevent it from ever going mainstream. I'm sure that if the device becomes common enough people will be unable to know if you are using it for porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:20 PM |
| 12 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenThe most disgusting thing is when they break up with an actually good man to return to the criminal. I swear, some of those women shall not be helped by authorities anymore. They are basically addicts and there is no way to control that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:18 PM |
| 18 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenYou seem to suggest women shall be treated like children, with no personal responsibility. As always, you use the appeal to pussy fallacy... if you disagree you must not like pussy. As if it was the only valuable thing women have (well, it is true for some). You can reduce your chances of being victim of crime by not going to dangerous zones, closing your house and car with keys, etc. Nothing of that policy is victim blaming, but basic personal responsibility. If women are dating men for pure se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:16 PM |
| – | I understand that Women want the best option available, I just wish they didn't lie about it.I don't think it is the same for men because men usually are not as picky as women. Women can be more picky and they naturally are, so if the guy does or say something seemingly insignificant, she may just lost the interest and change her mind. I don't describe it as a necessary bad thing, it is just how women usually are because they have to be picky as pregnancy is risky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:03 PM |
| 28 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenI disagree. Women return to those men, even soon after they are release from jail. Women also know exes and their past relationships but they "can fix them". Women claim they feel attracted to men for being nice or good, but they just have a wild primitive attraction that is not justified rationally, just as men are. Men are just more honest because they have nothing to lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:55 PM |
| 6 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenWomen have complete control of the sex market. They have complete responsibility for it. End of story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:53 PM |
| – | I understand that Women want the best option available, I just wish they didn't lie about it.Wow those men must have very powerful magic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:52 PM |
| – | I understand that Women want the best option available, I just wish they didn't lie about it.I think women lie for two reasons: Safety. Women believe some men will kill them if they reject them. This is true, but it is way more rare than people assume. You probably are like 10x more likely to die in a car crash. Narcissistic supply. Women need men asking them out and praising them, or looking for them. They only hate it when men become insistent or too creepy, but overall most of them enjoy it. They enjoy a random man stops to them change a tire (which is stupid, make her use her car in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexAsian wives are the cheapest in the market right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:48 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menOnly desperate men I see are those with fetishes that want a girl to perform them. OF girls are no longer profitable, the best own locked all clients. The market is saturated. Imagine selling your dignity and any chances of finding a good husband for like $50 a month and not the thousands you expected. Quitting porn can make some men have success in real life, but only if they have fetishes for reality and real women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:27 PM |
| – | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sex....want to act out their sick fantasies on real women and children Sex crime is actually going down, considering all violent porn, the trend may go even more down with VR porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 03:24 PM |
| -1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexThey aren’t much different from OF where they sell a dream but neither offer physical touch. At least they will not make those women rich anymore. Well, they can sell 3D content for VRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:39 PM |
| 4 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexDELET | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:38 PM |
| -1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexSome people may actually enjoy virtual sex more because it is not sticky nor nasty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:28 PM |
| -1 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexHowever, some people may argue real sex is too nasty and sticky, and therefore virtual sex is better. After all, we have a trend to move from nasty odors (soap, deodorant) and other features considered otherwise normal and expected in human interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:23 PM |
| -10 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexUse your imagination... the important thing is that there will be no real victims. ^_^ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Apple VR + AI porn will probably make porn even a more realistic alternative to sexApply priced it at 3,499. That’s just the headset. No telling what the cost of any software or subscription services will be. From perspective, that is like 5 prostitution sessions and a fraction of a wife price. We can also hope the price will eventually be lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:17 PM |
| – | Men do not control women sexuality by prostitution and pornography , it’s women desireMen want pussy. Women want everything doing nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Do you think stay at home parents should earn a salary?Unless they absolute have to work (which minors should never HAVE to work in America) those jobs should be done by adults. Agreed 100%, but sadly I don't see an easy outcome here. The popular idea of people from 18 to 60 working for children, teens and elders breaks down when society becomes like 60% elder and people have to pay too many taxes so they don't have children, so the few children around have to start early and people also have to retire later. The West welfare system is basically a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:46 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menGood, but I don't get what child porn has to do with normal, common porn. It seems you are suggesting they are the same or one is caused by the other, which is not true. Very few men have a pedo fetishes and even most of those who do have such desires know that is evil and wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:43 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menWomen are alergic to responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:42 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menNah, it is worse they actually created those children by opening their legs to terrible men. If men had control over the sex market, maybe you would have a point, but right now women have all power and they do a terrible job and expect society, government and other men to handle their shit and pay for their bastards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:41 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menDeadbeat fathers are so common Who is the gatekeepers of sex again? Who is choosing the men that already have like 5 children around so their child support will never be enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:40 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menYou have to show value as a man in order to attract women. Very few men get young, good looking women, and they have to have all the traits, physical and also money. Most men will get just ugly fat entitled women. Imagine being physically active, eating healthy, hard working, etc. to just get the community fleshlight because you are not tall or masculine enough. No wonder why porn is so popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:38 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menGood for you. Personally, I would not care if I get ED if I'm not having sex anyway, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:34 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menI would argue that the lack of relationships is a far bigger driver in creepiness today. Many men have zero understanding of intersexual dynamics because they grew up watching porn and are now adult creeps that harrass and send consensual dick pics etc Even if men become creeper because porn, in theory they don't have to go out as much anyway, so total creepiness goes down, as women wanted. These men are also more depressed and therefore easier to manipulate and less in control of their emotions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:28 PM |
| 1 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.So that is a reason for women to not initiate divorce. Clearly they don't care about the kids and believe they will do well. Glad most of them eventually pay for breaking families apart for purely selfish reasons and idealistic expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:22 PM |
| – | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isI’m more just curious why losing money you cannot get back is any more valid when it’s debt versus bad career prospects… Because debt serves as a perversive incentive for the person to make another pay for it. Also you personally get no real direct benefit from paying other person's debt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:20 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menPorn definitely helps some men never have sex their entire lives. It's the other way around. Men who never get sex rely on porn, and so do men in your life, probably your brothers, fathers, uncles, son, etc. no matter if they are married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you think stay at home parents should earn a salary?Teen work is returning soon or later, as younger people are fewer and fewer and we have more retirees, the fewer younger people will be squeezed to pay for boomers and millenials. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:17 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menWhat do all of these have to do with the fact that people knowingly jerk off to little girls being abused? Last time I checked, child porn is heavily banned in the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:08 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menMaybe if reality did not suck in the first place because variables you cannot even control, that would be a nice option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:08 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menPorn is just a means to an end to feel normal instead of horny all the time. Exactly. No need to overcomplicate it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:02 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menBiology, society, reality, etc. is universal unfair while at the same time giving us a deep sense of looking for fairness and well being for most people. This created a cognitive dissonance and hellish objective reality in us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:01 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menWe are living the Last Man's times Nietzche prophesized. It is over, so it does not matter anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:00 PM |
| 1 | In the coming decades, we will see a resurgence of marriages and monogamyYou are right, monogamy will probably have a back, but only for the few people that will marry and have a family. For most people, probably they will die resentful, alone, both men and women. At best they will get a few short relationships through the years, no children or children with multiple people. Not fun for a stable family in advanced age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 09:21 PM |
| 0 | Do you think stay at home parents should earn a salary?LOL, I wish | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Do you think stay at home parents should earn a salary?I think if a society or government demands the creation of children to support itself, the labor and expenditure to create said children should be compensated. It would only make sense if it was required to have children, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Do you think stay at home parents should earn a salary?Should also school students get a salary? I mean, they are using their time and energy for school, and it is even forced into them. A housewive will probably tell you that actually the husband works for her... he pays the house, the food, etc. she is self-supervised, with lots of free time (thanks to electric devices). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isBut if paying lots of money for a wife when it doesn’t benefit you is important to you, then why do you care about her debt, but not about her earnings? What is the difference to you, between spending $30,000 paying off her college debt vs paying $30,000 supporting her since she doesn’t have a job? You’re out $30k either way, due to her poor decisions. The main difference is that usually supporting your wife is conditional to she staying and loving you. If you pay debt you are paying years of de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 08:33 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menAt least those evangelicals believe you will go to hell for this. Nofappers just punish and shame themselves for nothing... literally self shame for no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 08:29 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menMen are not going to suddenly stop this shit and cooperate with each other at all. They are totally demoralized and gave up on this shit performative society long ago. Only solution is to let society fall or let a patriarchal society take over, either will happen anyway, probably both at the same time as both already started to a point. I hope future generations learn the lesson. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 06:25 PM |
| 2 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.That's the issue. Most women today are not working raising their kids, they are professionals, and they have a salary, and they still find ways to lose. I would say divorce benefits women in the short run but not in the long run, while for men it is the opposite. Reasons for this is because men already have to work, and because women often prefer custody, which costs them hours of work. If they agreed to shared custody as the man wanted, it would have been easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 06:03 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menFap is easier, safer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:55 PM |
| 5 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menAs long as those women join porn voluntarily, I don't see the problem. Women still control the sex market, they can literally leave a marriage and find a guy a week later, so they are also not forced or feel obligated to do any stuff they don't feel comfortable with. If porn is so bad, regulate or ban the companies, don't punish normal men with normal urges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:53 PM |
| 5 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menParticipants reported that their most recent relapse was followed by feeling shameful, worthless, sad, a desire to commit suicide, and other negative emotions. This is the most damaging of that expectation. You are basically considered a loser and an addict for just having normal sexual desires. Basically shame to an extreme label. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:51 PM |
| 5 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menI'm sure that is not the case for 98% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:51 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menThese men literally don't deserve to have relationships. Imagine putting your sexual gratification over human lives bro. LOL tell that to women who love dating literal criminals and use clothes made by Asian slaves. The hypocrisy of this society is disgusting. Suddenly they care about women, suddenly they care about porn, while all the shit they buy is based on slave labol. Give me a break, please. Also you shall not worry, most porn is free or from torrent. The demand for porn made in Asia or p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:48 PM |
| 4 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menMaybe you have a point, but there is no much point to be more productive for most men if they do not have a family or a heirs. It is just working for government at that point because even retirement is not guaranteed anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:43 PM |
| 5 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menour primary source of sexual gratification should come from real sex. Sadly, a lot of men will never get close to that, so porn is what is. It could be worse, they could have been born years ago and be unable to get any sex and without any porn, with not enough money for a prostitute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:42 PM |
| 4 | Don't experience matter at all in a relationship?Men often lie up and women lie down. All those numbers are unreliable unless you had a camera 24/7 attached to them. That is why there is so much contradictory data in those studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menOur ancestors did not need lots of things we use today that changed society forever: dating apps, internet, social networks, cars and suburbia, etc. Why is porn evil more evil than those things? Let's have some empathy for those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:40 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menI understand your point, but remember that most men in history got very violent if they had no sex or possibility of family. So yes, women get benefit of it but guys also get benefit they don't have to live sexually deprived, at least not 100%, as porn helps. Porn keeps those men sedated to the injustice that is being done to them. Worst disadvantage of porn is the fact men need to work less for themselves, if they don't have a family on their own there is no point of making more money, so we al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:39 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menI don't think porn is even as close as bad as alcohol, but the analogy makes sense, yes. Still we live in post-family and post-social times, porn hurting those things makes little difference. We wll will be lining to offing ourselves, lonely in our deep 70s when government encourages it because there is not enough younger people born to work to keep us alive. It is over, so better enjoy the ride. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.I'm sorry to hear that, but remember that men are very strong and recover from divorce even having it way worse. I find it amusing women find themselves poorer after the divorce they initiated, even all laws favoring them and giving them money for their children and with family and other men open to help her... imagine losing in tutorial mode. Best thing you can do is prove yourself you win even in the harshest conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:34 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menThose men are masturbating to porn, it does not affect woman's safety. If porn is problematic, sue the companies that allow it, not men who just want a release. Men who have been rejected by women cannot care any less about women's safety if they don't have any woman in their lives in the first place to protect, it is a non issue for those men. Beside, men who are married often watch porn with no issues on women's safety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:32 PM |
| 5 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menWe live in the age of dopamine... entertainment, video games, all kind of activities, sex, antidepressants, etc. so porn is just another one. Of course, that makes "boring" times unbearable, but I don't think that is a porn-only issue. Maybe if the condemned hedonism, porn would not be an option, but as this reality gets shitty (subjectively, objectively is getting better) then porn is here to stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:28 PM |
| 7 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menYou don't need porn to jerk off. if you think you do you have a porn addiction. I don't, but if a guy needs that is his problem, not mine. His addiction don't affect me in any way unlike other types of addiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 04:26 PM |
| 12 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menThe typical argument is that often single moms don't allow fathers to look for the children, or have sex with men that are not able to pay for the children (e.g. criminals) or establish other relationships with men while their children are around, which is dangerous. In any case, I think the pushback against single moms is because the control the sex market and yet they still make terrible decisions for them and their children, who are very likely to raise to be criminals. But I do agree their i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:38 PM |
| 13 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menThat is a way men may use porn for, but I agree it is not ideal in the long run. They may be working long hours, not enough time to meet friends or women. Porn is a good alternative meanwhile. Regardless, it is their body and their choice. Plenty of men have social lives, a good job, a house, but no women interested in them. Porn does help those men to deal with reality, they don't have to be hermits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:34 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menIt has been pushed hard, first on reddit and now in YouTube. Some points it makes make sense and men who can handle that and find that useful shall go for it, but it is not for everyone and encouraging sexual frustration may be worse for those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:26 PM |
| 19 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menBut that's the point. You can't expect sex when you don't provide anything. Men observe how a good-looking tall men get sex in a week, while average never got sex without huge investment and commitment and time and shit. Considering this, many men may find that game extremely unfair and biased and simply choose to skip into porn, at least for a while. Your assumption that men who watch porn are losers is also wrong, but it is true most loser men rely on porn, which may be the origin of your conf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:24 PM |
| 5 | Don't experience matter at all in a relationship?the vast majority of men (at least in the US) are not virgins beyond age 22 Consider that men having sex once or twice in their lives 10 years technically makes them non-virgins... including with a prostitute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:13 PM |
| -1 | Don't experience matter at all in a relationship?And there's always this "my husband was a 35 year old virgin when we met"-post to back it up. The guy just probably lied to avoid drama with the woman and shut her up for good. It is very rare for men that never had any experience in younger years to get a relationship later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:12 PM |
| 3 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menPost's point is that masturbation and porn are OK and valid for men. Why do you disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:09 PM |
| 0 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menIt makes no difference to me if I'm able or not to fap without porn, as it is widely available anyway. It is like asking how much I can live without food when I'm not interested on even fasting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:58 PM |
| 2 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menSure, let it be regulated, but men don't have any moral obligation to regulate themselves from watching porn if there is doubt about its ethical origin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:56 PM |
| 37 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menPlenty of men have jobs, work out, eat healthy, etc. but cannot get women for a variable they cannot control, such as mild autism, being an introvert, or being short. Proof of this is how dating apps are made, they don't even have an entry point to be considered unless they by luck dated very young and married their school gf or something. Regardless, if men are comfortable living with less than society expects from them. Men don't necessarily want to be successful, some just want to play video … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:53 PM |
| 1 | The no-fap movement has noble purpose, but it is based on a delusion. Porn is a necessary evil for the good of most menNo, but it is better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isI agree there are two different points but in most cases women with debt are a mixed bag between both. So I’m curious, because it these really aren’t the same, and saying men should avoid women with debt seems more complicated than you’ve presented. No need to be complicated if it is about commitment. It is stuff you have to think about before marriage. Sex? Well, both can have fun if they want whatever the debt is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:42 PM |
| 1 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.All people in unhappy marriages feel trapped. Yes, but usually women have nothing to lose in divorce, in fact they are often rewarded by the guy's stuff and assets by law. After all educated people over the age of 30 at marriage are the least likely to divorce. Yes, because at that point marriage is just to avoid loneliness, like a business transaction. Romance is already going down, fertility too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isWomen should also think twice about pairing up with men who are in debt or who have large child support obligations. Agree, but sadly the guy ends up paying, probably his step children too. Women are not as stupid as men in this aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:37 PM |
| 2 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.Not just unhappy, but men who are trapped in marriage are fucked. They cannot change it without making it worse for a while and maybe even dying in the process... divorce rape laws, child support, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 01:22 PM |
| 0 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isA female ceo is not going to want just any guy. I agree with that, I'm obviously talking about the preferences of the guy, but you need two for a dance. Women's preference is more restrictive so that is the one that prevails, but guys are still open to sex, dating and relationships regardless of what those women want for themselves. So your observation proves women are more classist, unlike men who are very fair and reasonable on dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:22 PM |
| 8 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.I wish the guys here would stop pretending that married men are miserable and unloved. Most married men are happy, but when they are unhappy they are indeed miserable, unloved and worse, trapped. It is a risk to consider, but the rewards that may come from marriage may make worth the risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:06 PM |
| – | CMV: Men today have a massive victim mentality, and it is holding them back from finding success.Victim mentality is bad, but it did not arise in a void. It has a reason to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isI would not mind some debt, but hundreds of thousands of debt... that is a red flag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isMen are more open to date down than women are,. Also, women who date those men get up in the social ladder and economic opportunities... obviously they don't stay poor. Just because couples are in the same social class it does not mean they started there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 07:22 PM |
| -1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt is90% of couples make around the same amount I don't think that proves anything because both men and women have to agree to enter a relationship and date. Your description of your social group is rather a description on what the most restrictive part wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isOnly because they can. Men don't have problem marrying in any class but if they marry poor woman they may abuse their money, and if they marry rich the woman will resent the guy for earning less. So it is not that the guy cares, it is just that women care so much about income that guys fail in such relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isMen are now weighing the profit/loss on women now. its all transactional now. I'm glad they are doing what women have always done. It is only fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:34 PM |
| 0 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isIt’s like when some people say freedom of religion means you’re free to be any variation of Christianity you want Well, if a country is like 80% Christian it makes sense to talk about freedom of religion that way. Same for girls... if most women are attractive to men, like 90%, then this criteria is very loose and makes sense for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:31 PM |
| -1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isI'm sure most men can make it work if they like the chick. Meanwhile, girls simply walk away even if the guy earns the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:30 PM |
| -1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isWomen hold 3/4 of the debt in the states. That's horrific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 04:40 PM |
| -2 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isAnd in the real world, you need that 2nd income to build a life. That is kinda sad to choose someone as a side income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 04:23 PM |
| 0 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isSorry I was not clear, I mean they do not care about income for dating or being attracted her, but while living with her then expenses accumulate and make sense to ask for fair share of each. Debt, however, transcends the span of a relationships or current income, and that is why it shall be considered more than income and attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:59 PM |
| -1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isWomen in general won’t marry down financially because they tend to do more domestic labour, take a financial hit from raising kids & do the bulk of the childcare, along with being primary caregivers later on for older relatives. Why would she take a huge cut in life quality and take on extra labour? Again, as I said that makes sense and I agree with that. Women have to sacrifice a lot to get children. However, it is important to note that women who are too old to have children or don't want to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:43 PM |
| -1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isSure, it was just an example. In any case, her income may be 0k is she chooses to be a housewive and still have a comfortable life, so earning 15k is not that bad for women who get men that care for them too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isThat is actually a good point to consider, but I think it adds complexity to the assessment. It is just easier and more convenient to not commit to women with lots of debt. A lot of those CEO women also have huge expenses on rent in a luxurious apartment, for example. Meanwhile a woman working on McDonalds and living with her parents may be saving over a thousand dollars a month and live a comfortable life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isTwo things: (1) women marry men who are richer or earn more and (2) women expect men to pay. That makes it very unlikely for women to end up paying the guy's debt in any significant way, unless she is a sugar mommy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:32 PM |
| 0 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isYeah, but women naturally know and they never end up paying the guy's debt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:21 PM |
| 0 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isI guess her contribution shall be proportional to her income compared to that of his. If he earns 100k and she earns 50k, then it makes sense for the guy to pay 2/3 of rent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:20 PM |
| 2 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameWithout enough married men paying in, the system collapses. I cannot wait | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameThat is a reasonable argument to make. I think tech already made women able to defend themselves without physical force (guns) and do hard work (machines do most heavy stuff), so it makes sense for equality to have a place now. I just find it odd we talk about retribution even when those differences were so important in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 06:49 PM |
| 2 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameSo you are saying women are subverted by nature and they need men's help to be equal. The problem with this assumption is that it is disempowering to women, and always relies on men's power to be implemented. It basically ask men to perform as if women were equal by giving them power they have, such as protection, basic infrastructure, most taxes (80% of taxes are paid be men), etc. I find the idea of equality already problematic, even an oxymoron because we as humans are not equal in any way. D… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 05:51 PM |
| 6 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameWeird to assume men "stole" what they created in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 05:39 PM |
| 1 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameThe benefits men had weren't merely attached to their contribution since they're the ones that made the rules. They simply made rules that benefited them and their sensibilities, and women had no say. It is like an egg first or chicken first problem. Men had more power because they made the rules, but why did they have more power in the first place? I think it is more complicated. Most men had it worse in most times, only a few men had all power and women were in between both. Men having more ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 05:36 PM |
| 1 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the Samewomen still didn’t have the ability to contribute or work in the same manner as men until very recently in human history. Yeah, thanks to machines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 05:34 PM |
| 0 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameA lot of these rights such as banks or voting were retricted to men or families because men were required for military service and therefore they were regarded as essential for the nation. Most jobs in the past were manual too, and men were made better for intensive high paying manual jobs. It seems the benefits men had were just attached to their contribution to society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 04:03 PM |
| 3 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameAre you implying women were not able to stand for themselves? Weird take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 03:37 PM |
| 8 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameInteresting that women needed a lot of government help, prioritization and corporate preference to be "equal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 03:26 PM |
| -1 | In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the SameWomen needed a lot of government help and preference to be "equal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 03:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men's stubborn belief that "all women are the same" is holding them back from finding success.Sure if I wanted to attract women and was willing to 100% mold my personality to a certain type of guy I'd force myself to go to more shows I didn't care about for music I didn't like. Or else I'd go clubbing way more often or do a million other things. But the thing is that's a whole lot of forcing yourself to be someone you're not and more than most people can really deal with. I never claimed you shall do stuff you don't like. You may as well love rock but don't go to many rock concerts. Chan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 03:25 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Men's stubborn belief that "all women are the same" is holding them back from finding success.Many men choose to specialize in a subculture and that attracts women from that subculture. It is a legitimate way to find your tribe and maybe find love from a woman that also is part of that group. The disadvantage of this is that they only get women from that group, and there may not be many available women there anyway. However, most men don't really belong or are interested to belong to a suburban culture, so they often rely on more general fashion trends, put some muscle, etc. to get women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 08:18 PM |
| 53 | CMV: Men's stubborn belief that "all women are the same" is holding them back from finding success.Men don't literally think all women are the same, but they notice that like 90% of them like the same few things they can develop or focus on to attract women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 07:22 PM |
| – | CMV: if a woman is financially dependent on a man she doesn’t love she’s completely justified in cheatingUnless she is a sex slave or something, no one is stopping her from getting a job or studying, even while married. I'm sure laws are on her favor, organizations, non-profits, alimony courts, etc. Women also can easily get another man. So I see this as a very rare issue in the West for a woman to depend that much on a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 05:30 PM |
| – | CMV: if a woman is financially dependent on a man she doesn’t love she’s completely justified in cheatingContrary to popular belief, women can’t just always pickup and leave a relationship. If she’s financially dependent on him, if she’s not educated/does have a job, if she doesn’t have family members to turn to, she is at significant disadvantage. These are often the types of women that men prey upon because they don’t have any other recourse. By that logic, she is being dumb risking the only thing they depend on. Duh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 03:29 PM |
| -1 | Women should admit it is kind of a privilege that they essentially control the couple's social lifeTinder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseWomen came up with the "wall" to manipulate men into marriage and having kids. They do hate when it is used against them, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseIt is hard for men to know when women hide themselves behind 5 layers of makeup and filters, but eventually men know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:45 PM |
| – | What is the source of men's motivation for working hard?Ironicy Thailand Lady boys are probably more feminine than western women anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:44 PM |
| 0 | What is the source of men's motivation for working hard?Look into "Men Without Work" by Nicholas Eberstadt. Since the 1960s there has been a steady decline in prime age men working. Why do you think prime-age men (20s/30s) have been checking out of the labor market at a near linear rate since the 1960s? I would not be surprised the west finds a way to enslave such men at some point as the URSS did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:43 PM |
| 2 | What is the source of men's motivation for working hard?Literally no reason to work hard if you will have no wife, no heir, no love and you only live by yourself. You are basically cucking taxes for paying for single moms and their bastards. Only exception is that some men may still have hope and they believe working hard will somehow attract women, but they luckily find that is probably not the case for most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:42 PM |
| 0 | What is your standards for a long term relationship?None. I don't have the luxury to have any standards in the first place. But if I did had options I would probably filter by her not being fat, not having kids, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:40 PM |
| 47 | What is your opinion of incels?But people really like the stereotype of the evil, irredeemable incel who deserves it because it gives them someone they can shit. They just want a punchbag, literally how bullies see nerds and weak guys. Ironic women love the "no bullying" shitty campaign and protect animals and victims and all shit, yet they are such hypocrites that they love to punch men that were just not genetically lucky. Disgusting. My "revenge fantasy" is that they are most likely to be single moms and therefore their ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:38 PM |
| 5 | What is your opinion of incels?They are right, but many of them have the wrong attitude. I cannot blame them... they were told by their moms and society that they would eventually get a family, be loved, etc. but they were rugged off that, they were scammed and lied to by society. How cannot you be resentful on that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:34 PM |
| -4 | Women should admit it is kind of a privilege that they essentially control the couple's social lifeMathematically impossible, though. Even if all men improved 100% women would still choose the top of top men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:34 PM |
| -1 | Women should admit it is kind of a privilege that they essentially control the couple's social lifeI observe women find themselves in an odd position. Plenty of women find themselves having all power in relationships but they want a guy that have most of the power in relationships, women want a powerful man that still chooses them. The result is most women catfighting or waiting for a few top men who are socially rich. Mathematically speaking, most women cannot get this. There is huge demand for high quality socially powerful men, but not enough men for that. So it seems women have more power… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipThis goes against TRP which teaches to never fall in love, never simp, never run the risk of developing oneitis. They're extremely risk adverse and neurotic people so they think that trying to calculate and avoid every negative thing is somehow wise when its actually pure foolishness I slightly disagree with that, because TRP don't necessarily tell those things, it just encourages men to be skeptic of commitment and they provide tools to get sex. Still TRP is not ideal, I agree, it is too selfis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:09 PM |
| 22 | Why do so many men here want casual sex?For a few reasons: Most men are OK with a stable relationship, and they believe casual sex is a step for that. Unless you are very conservative or religious, chances are that casually dating is required first. Women and society made sexuality a rate of passage and acceptance for men. Men who are single are treated as trash... they are not invited to anything, they are seen as losers, married men stop going out with them, etc. Women would not understand that hell, no wonder why being single is a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Wanna See What Average Couples Look Like? Check Out the Crowd at Your Local ZooAgreed, but usually when couples get used to each other it is better to keep it going for them than to change the status quo. At least so it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:08 PM |
| 1 | How more comfortable would you feel with (and willing/happy to have sex with) a man who had a vasectomy?I'm talking about vasectomies, not sterilization of women which is generally more reversible. It does not matter if it is a minority, the risk is high. Vasectomies are usually irreversible, and if she gets a baby fever the risk is too high for the man... ugly divorce, she leaving for another man that is fertile, resentment, etc. It does not help women also get desperate in their narrow fertility window of time. If she does not want to have children, she can get sterilized herself. It is more rev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipIDK, therapy is mostly a meme. I notice therapy helps for a few days, but most people have to deal with that in their own way and therapy is limited. In fact I think most people that actually recover from resentment or hate or similar usually get a very traumatic experiences that change their mind to the core. Some people are neurotic, they will never change that, no matter what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 05:54 PM |
| 4 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipIt will be even later if men don't have sex until that age, though. If it was already that high for men that started in their 20s, it will be like 40s or never for most younger men today. But that is OK, marriage is too unfair for men, legally speaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipThat is how resentment works. A hurt animal bites the person that tries to help them. No one said such emotions o responses must be rational, and honestly at some point no one has control over that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipYou have decided this despite never having been in a relationship? How do you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 05:26 PM |
| 7 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipYeah, another reason to resent women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 05:25 PM |
| 6 | Wanna See What Average Couples Look Like? Check Out the Crowd at Your Local ZooWell, statistics say that younger men are double more likely to be single than women are, so yes, few men are being chosen. Not saying to the level it is a crisis, but ignoring it is myopic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Wanna See What Average Couples Look Like? Check Out the Crowd at Your Local ZooA few notes: A lot of these "couples" are not really couples, but brothers or even friends. Many if not most of those "average" couples usually formed before the age of dating apps and open sexualization of society, which came to be full force less than 10 years ago. Cheating, beta bucks, polyamorous trashy relationships, etc. has gone up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 03:42 PM |
| 2 | How more comfortable would you feel with (and willing/happy to have sex with) a man who had a vasectomy?I read so many posts of women who are childfree and then change their mind and find a man without a vasectomy to have children... it is laughable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 03:37 PM |
| 0 | People who are casual about sex get laid more often than people who aren'tNo shit. I would say that having casually sex add diversity but not necessarily more sex than being in a couple. Even a good-looking guy getting sex twice a week easily, still get less sex than a random average married guy. Still, seeing people as "diverse flavors" dehumanizes them and at the end ends up monopolizing sex for a few only. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipGuys don't see options as mutually exclusive as women do. Women replace men for better men, men just get more women and keep the previous around, but on commitment guys are very exclusive and can break commitment for something better if commitment limits their options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 02:28 PM |
| 4 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipHaving someone to help out around the house, play games with, travel with, have regular sex with, and grow old and die with is nice. Overall being in a DINK relationship is lit. Seems like a very unnecessarily expensive and risky friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipI mean, presumably it wouldn't be the same woman as any of the ones who rejected you. Why would you blame her for the actions of other women she probably won't even have met? That's not terribly rational. Humans are very irrational. If there are generalizations of gender and age, why would not there be generalizations of more specific categories such as women who choose you or reject you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipSure, but the other extreme are guys with options that will leave you for someone better. Not to mention all this is opaque information... the guy may be a virgin or just bad at sex, the guy may be a player and you find it way later, etc. Good look finding the middle point guy that is also compatible with you and does not make you lose the small window of time you are fertile and attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipNo, but since women are more effort than benefit, it makes sense for at least have some legacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 01:17 PM |
| -2 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipEspecially being childfree, finding a woman without kids that didn't want any (on top of attraction and personal connection) seemed grim What is the point of finding a partner if you are not going to have children anyway? Not to mention that plenty of women are childfree until they are not anymore, and leave you with a vasectomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 09:06 PM |
| 5 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipI disagree. I'm sure FOMO is suffered the most with those that feel deprived of some key experiences in life, such as "late bloomers". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Long lack of experience does affect the views on any current or future relationshipIf finally getting a partner increases your sex value by preselection and experience with others, I'm sure many people will take such opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 09:04 PM |
| 0 | Women are valued for what they doIf you consider just existing as doing, yes, women are valued for what they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Men's obsession with the sexual purity and virginity of women harms young menI personally don't think people make it a big thing about being virgin. It is not like a sexuality or an identity or similar. People who are insecure about it usually have other issues that probably kept them virgin, which is fine, but they attribute that retroactively to virginity, which is wrong. In a sense, virginity was treated better in the past. Priests, nuns, monks, and sometimes even teachers, were expected to be virgins and heavily respected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 08:02 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menA former friend of mine kept insisting people hated him for not reason and I pitied him. That stopped when I discovered he was sending anime CP to a minor, but he’s still insisting that I and other people who use to respect him are just being mean because he was just trying to help a teen writer out. All those judgements make sense after you find out, not because "they look like" they do that tho. The last seems to be just an excuse to hate autistic and ugly people. Very sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 04:00 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menIt does not matter. Plenty of women are ugly, fat and disgusting, but that is not a license to humiliate them. You are using extreme examples to justify your prejudice against average and just underaverage guys. Very sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 03:37 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menThese are women pointing out that men only treat women like people when they find them attractive. Someone not treating you as they treat others who they find attractive does not make you less human. It is OK to reject someone, but humiliation women use is very wrong. The thing is that women feel like humiliated for just not being asked out or a guy not inviting them to the party... it is wild. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 03:32 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menBecause for dating comes easily after you are treated decently and you treat others good too. Women are treated way better than men and still find ways to complain about dating. It is like Bezos calling himself poor for losing half his money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 03:30 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menIDK it seems like a very good guarantee women will always end up with resentful guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 03:28 PM |
| – | Women will not make you happy and you should not make them your sole source of happinessI see women as an attribute of the end road. Otherwise, they are true obstacles to the excellence of men. If you are an achieving man, plenty of women will be waiting at the end and for sex during the road. If you commit during your adventure, you will be slowed down by her dead weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:45 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menNo one has to know, but yes, that sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:42 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menI mean, I don't think that is restricted by genders. Women always talk about guys that are confident or so but only after they have selected them for looks. Women also use men to get resources and "adventures" and stuff like that. Men just enjoy the ride even being used; they don't take it that seriously as women do. Maybe women should be a little more like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:42 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menI’d be afraid he’d say yes, when he just wanted sex What is so bad about sex? Most guys cannot even get a smile from girls. Be grateful! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:23 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menThey to be very anxious, insecure -neurotic, basically- so they lash out to project their feelings outwards, onto you if you happen to be the unlucky guy at that moment. This is a very good argument. Some mentally ill people just attack the first target they get, not because they have anything personal against you. Very sad, but that is reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:20 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menNo, women, despite it being 2023, are called clingy and crazy if we make the first move with men. Yes, but in the same token men are called creepy. I think the part that asks out has to do like 90% of the initial effort in the interaction. Of course, in most cases men have to ask them out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:10 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menIf you read carefully, this post is not even about sex or dating, but gender relationships and basic human decency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:09 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?That’s sweet that you thought I would pick men for relationships. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about women in general. Maybe you are a little self centered taking this too personal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:03 PM |
| – | Women hate to be treated as they treat average menI'm talking men on general. Of course you want to make it personal (wHo hUrT yoU???), because you simply don't have any valid arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:02 PM |
| – | The women who end up as single "cat ladies" are usually not the typical hot, party girlNo idea what your last sentence was supposed to mean. Women claim they are broken by relationships and dating and men and stuff, while they still have all selection power. They choose terribly and then blame their choices for trauma they welcomed in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:51 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Even dating takes up a lot of emotional energy and time. Men fuck around. Don't worry, men still have to do like 90% of work to establish them and women can easily get away doing less emotional work than men in relationships. You have all the power, and therefore all responsibility. If your relationships suck, it is likely because you suck picking men and you deserve no sympathy for that. But I agree, many women prefer time/space alone, although that is easier to say when you can just open an ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Men's obsession with the sexual purity and virginity of women harms young menIt is true best women were reserved to the royalty, but since we had no DNA tests back then, some loyalty was still expected even among lower classes and it was heavily enforced... no one wanted to raise a child that was no theirs, no one wanted to create more bastards and orphans. So yes, there was a very strong reason to be loyal and enforce monogamy as much as possible even among lower classes. Today, that reason is more abstract and symbolic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:28 PM |
| 3 | Men's obsession with the sexual purity and virginity of women harms young menBut for many, it's too much fun to give it up voluntarily, and there's probably no point in trying to impose a sexual prohibition. No one is proposing that. However, cultures that do practice such sexual prohibition will replace us when the West dies with their people pleasuring in the robot masturbatorium. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:15 PM |
| 21 | Men's obsession with the sexual purity and virginity of women harms young menThey should not allow it and in return harm others and themselves with something else. That is how people act. Women's sexual liberation was also a reaction, even against men that never caused them any harm. In fact, sex liberation seems to be beating good men as they still fuck bad guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:14 PM |
| 6 | Men's obsession with the sexual purity and virginity of women harms young menThis is not true for two reasons: Purity culture has been dying for decades, and yet women has gotten pickier and pickier and they complain a lot about men being too horny. So no, if anything the fall of purity culture have caused women to be more skeptic of men and men to feel free to just see women as sex objects. Purity cultures usually have younger men marrying young. According to your post it would be the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:13 PM |
| 1 | The women who end up as single "cat ladies" are usually not the typical hot, party girlI would say most of those "party girl" women end up single, but having sex with married men on the side, even for decades as my auntie did. So you are right, they do not end like cat ladies even if it seems they live like that, usually it is average to less good looking ladies that end up like that. Still women who end up like cat ladies have chosen that in the sense they did not choose to lower their standards. They prefer cats, xanax and wine, well, that is what they get. You shall not be sorr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:10 PM |
| – | The women who end up as single "cat ladies" are usually not the typical hot, party girlMost of us are perfectly happy, with our own big social group & a big box of toys we know what to do with. Most likely they are on psychiatric pills. Nothing wrong with that, but yes, they are damaged. Imagine loing your mental health even living in tutorial mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:05 PM |
| – | CMV: Men have no issue committing to the vast majority of relationships if given the option.I don't buy that. My husband wanted to get married because he valued the commitment that it symbolized, because of his religion and because he wanted to mimic his parents. Frankly I think he wanted it more than me because I didn't have all the religion behind it. That is OK, usually religious and traditional people see marriage as more than a contract, but also a bond with the divine. Sadly, the West is mainly disenchanted of any metaphysics, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:59 PM |
| – | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenSome exceptional cases that can be fixed with just showing a family photo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:53 PM |
| – | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenYou are right, it is not just a piece of paper, but indeed it adds nothing to a truly loving relationships except complexity and liability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:52 PM |
| 3 | “Are we dating the same guy” is literally just the natural consequence of less and less people dating from their social circle.Totally, but to be fair most men are not able to do that because lack of special combination of physical and social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:50 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Good for them, but still they can do as top men do and just establish relationships and let them die if interest is lost. It makes more sense than the no relationships / full marriage extreme options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beYou don’t hear about women being rejected as much because 1. Women can read the room better and don’t bulldoze their way in where they aren’t wanted, and If woman intuition had any merit, plenty of women would not be in such terrible and even violent relationships. Maybe their intuition is trying to kill them? IDK | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:45 PM |
| 2 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beIt does not matter. Women just need one time sex with any of those guys way better looking than them and for now on they will resent any future relationship with guys that look any less than that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:23 PM |
| 33 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to bebang guys much more attractive than them. Men fuck it up for themselves with lack of confidence. I hope you see the irony of this comment, or maybe you are being sarcastic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:22 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?The idea of money is also relatively new. Even my grandparents mostly exchanged stuff and paid the difference in money, if any. Systems such as feudalism often required payment in forms of labor or protection without any kind of monetary exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:21 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?Well, I think it is an ethnic issue if it is about racism. Also some cultures of those minorities are very misogynistic and violent. We love to assume Westerners are devils and minority cultures are always tolerant, but sadly that is not the case. America is better seen as a multi-tier country. People from cities live totally different from people of counties. People of minorities live different from majorities. North is different to South. It is a little unfair to compare a whole nation to just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:04 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?In a time where they couldn’t work I thought feminist say that women have always worked? I hear contradictory stuff on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:58 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Yes, sending billions to Ukraine is good, I’m sorry you don’t understand geopolitics and the consequent of losing Ukraine to the Russians. Neocons and neolibs... LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenSo, stay married for those men not have to pay women anything but pay them if they divorce? That makes no sense. In that case marriage is bad and divorce is good for women because only way for men to pay them is divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:24 PM |
| – | CMV: Men have no issue committing to the vast majority of relationships if given the option.I disagree for a few reasons: Many men who commit do it because it is conditional from women to move them and make a family. If they are not put under than condition, they may as well cohabitate and make a whole family with no issue as plenty of couples do. Men don't need legal contract to love and care for a family. Those men are not loving marriage, they are loving women, but marriage is a requirement for the relationship to they take it. Men who want commitment are unlikely to have other opti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:22 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Yes… we as a society collect money to provide for our own services… Sure, sending billions to Ukraine benefits us so much. In the same token a few crazy people can say we can also assign a wife to provide the most company and happiness to the most men, so they are the most productive. In both cases of taxes or assigned wives, there is coercion. Maybe taxes are not as bad as enforced monogamy, but there is still coercion, so we are way far from considering coercion bad as you claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:14 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?Today viability varies a lot by tech we have. We already are experimenting with artificial wombs, that would make viability from day zero which would be equivalent to prolifers that believe life start at conception. The development of neocortext and such is also a hot topic. It does not stop develop until we are in our 20s, does that mean that we continue to become more human until that age? Again, different people use different criteria. I'm not saying you are wrong, though, just saying that cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:12 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?There is no such thing as a natural state of monogamy. Human beings are a species meant to live in harems. We used to live in hard harems in the past, and we live in soft informal harems now. This was not true until civilization made possible for a few powerful men to hoard all women. Native tribes today are mostly monogamous and most likely small groups were mostly monogamous because a king taking 100 women from a city of 1 million was not as bad as a tribe chief marrying all women in a tribe o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:06 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?This makes no sense. Atomization is higher in Western countries where women are respected the most, and in rich countries where male violence against women is the lowest. It seems this explanation is incomplete. Maybe women do believe violence against them is increasing even when proven that is not the case? IDK | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:03 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Female selectivity is so high because male violence against women is so high. I doubt this is the case because Women are pickier than ever even when men are less violent than ever, and many women actively select violent men way over harmless STEM men. This seems to be a lie women want to say each other, but their actions prove otherwise. At the end 80% of old childless women wanted to have children, so a lot of them are basically putting selectivity over family, since reproduction window is very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:59 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?But if monogamy is socially constructed, why do most societies end up preferring it except for royalty, which was either Hypergamous or Polygamous? I think monogamy was the best middle point between hypergamy of women and polygamy of men, not the ideal for either gender, but it kept the most people happy. A few men hoarding all women would create a lot of sexually frustrated men, an a few top women keeping only top men every woman want would make them unhappy. Monogamy seems to be a middle point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:58 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Interesting it is mostly men who don't want to marry and just cohabitate, but women still want marriage after a while. It makes not much sense if it is restricting freedom from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:56 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?You would be surprised how many of those women are in huge debt, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:54 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?And we’ve moved from that since coercing individuals to do something they don’t want to do is wrong Except for taxes. That is always right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:53 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Monogamy is the middle point between Hypergamy of women and the Polygamy of Men. Monogamy keeps the most people happy, so yes, it was preferred by most cultures or at least encouraged over Hypergamy and Polygamy, which was often reserved for royalty. I would not say monogamy requires to be "enforced" as I think most people are somehow OK with monogamy even if they are not fully monogamous. However, just as other rules, it was enforced, but that does not mean it would not exist without enforcemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:53 PM |
| – | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?With women having m more financial independence, the bigger issue is that they are opting out of relationship altogether, rather than opting for polygamy over monogamy. So women were always golddiggers... good to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:50 PM |
| 37 | “Are we dating the same guy” is literally just the natural consequence of less and less people dating from their social circle.“Are we dating the same guy” is literally just the natural consequence of less and less people dating from their social circle. I slightly disagree. Those people are out of the dating pool because either they got a partner or they find their effort is fruitless and have gave up on trying to find a partner. Those people dropped the dating market because there is no demand for them, staying in the market would not make any difference for them or the market as they are overlooked anyway. This mostl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:25 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?Our moral system may not fit theirs, but they are still arguing on moral grounds. You may consider forcing "birth" authoritarian, they may consider murder of an innocent baby also authoritarian. Another thing is that for some reason many reddit pro-choicers love to assume the debate is settled. Even among pro-choicers, we have to define the line when the fetus become a human. Or even if that has moral implications... is a baby less human for being closer to a fetus than a full-grown adult? Is hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:06 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?I think it is hard for many men who never had sex or love to be empathic to any women's issues. It is like being concerned about not producing CO2 when you are freezing to death. I guess OP interprets that as men opposing abortion, but most men don't have a say on that and they don't really care because they have more immediate issues that affects them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:53 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?Perhaps not, but most anti-abortion protests are run by men. Is there any evidence of this? I see most pro-life protests are organized in Facebook groups or stuff like that organically, and mostly by middle aged moms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:51 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?Hard to know the line where a fetus become human, though. Even if you are pro life it is likely you support abortion in some cases such as incest or defective fetus. Even if you are pro choice it is likely you don't support abortion after a certain number of months, rarely up to birth. So it is not so white and black as people believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:50 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?Your post is trying too hard to create a strawman against men that don't happen to believe like you do about abortion, just to make a political statement and shame them into your view.Men who oppose abortion usually oppose it for the same reason women do, usually the assumption that the fetus is a human, which makes their argument mostly moral. It seems to me that men who are less sexually successful are more likely to be against abortion, since abortion threatens whatever little chance they hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsAnd personally I feel weird about letting kids potentially starve to death because their moms were bad at picking boyfriends. Such women shall not have the custody of kids, tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenAs explained, it seems like an increasingly obsolete and redundant institution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:41 PM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingHow on Earth is chasing women and the possibility of sex or a relationship the sole motivator for guys like you to work and literally just be an adult? It is not the only motivation, it is the only motivation left. In the past unmarried men could buy land and build their house. Today that dream is impossible. Male spaces have been labeled as toxic at best and as misogynistic at worse. Inflation is eating everyone's savings. Sure, women are suffering the same, but women can live with their parent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:39 PM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingThe gaslighting and lies men receive even from the moms raising them is unbelievable. I think the reason is they need to keep the "hope" in these men so they keep paying taxes and still contribute to a society that despises them. So men are told someday they get that if they are good boys, but when they realize they get nothing they are shamed as being entitled, and if they don't work after finding it out they are shamed of being lazy. So these advices are basically part of a psychological infra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenAnother reason to not marry. Imagine risking making your life harder for just love ending. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:23 PM |
| -1 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenI know it’s an unpopular opinion here, but women who participate in a marriage for multiple years are entitled to their portion of the assets accrued while in the marriage. Sure, that is why marriage is not convenient for men and there are perverse incentives for women to divorce men. It is also considered unfair for men to pay half for her, after he producing like 80% of those assets. You are giving more arguments against marriage, and suggesting women only marry for self interest of assets, wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionI was just pointing out that guys that have female friends often get the worst part of being a boyfriend while nothing sexual back. Then on emotional support still the guy has to put more effort, she has plenty of orbiters to pick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenJust pointing out your argument about divorce being a consequence for breaking a contract makes no sense because the part that causes such break is not necessarily the part that pays the broken plates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:14 PM |
| 3 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenThe consequence of divorce is not to punish the part that broke the commitment, though. If she commits adultery she may as well still receive alimony. In fact she probably receives the custody anyway even the judge knowing she will bring random Tinder men near their children from now on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:52 PM |
| -3 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenThe argument of unpaid labor is rather irrational in times both parents now have to work even to pay rent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenMarriages grant protections and governed institutions for asset allocation and transfer. So if a woman has a child with a man . If said man decides to leave said woman. I get that, but even if they are not married courts already have power on assets and income of the part that don't pay child support, for the benefit of the child, married or not. In the past marriage did work as you described, and bastards had no rights, but now both bastards and legitimate children in marriage have the same rig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenCommitment will not stop that from happening, though, and there are no real consequences from breaking commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:44 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionA majority of women will call men sassy or feminine for wanting women to put in the effort too so I mean their really is no winning It is really a shit test, restricting most men from social relationships and gaslighting them that that is not the case. Really shitty and evil game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:38 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionFriendships usually require some emotional support, and if the guy makes most effort those friendships are onesided and parasitistic. That is why guys prefer friendship with guys, that is why women prefer friendships with other women. Both genders benefit from that more than friendship with the opposite gender, as often they get one sided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionDark times that can be relieved by making friends. Sure, and to stop being depressed just stop being depressed! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:33 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionDELET | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:31 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionTrying to not be fat (and failing in many cases) Apparently that is fatphobic now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:30 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men are not trying that hard, and men claim they tried too hard... this is a possible explanation and solutionThe irony is that those guys not trying is what often keeps those women around, interested and baffled and curious about this guy that don't seem to need them... he must have something going around, he must have some value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenMarriage does not guarantee anything of that exclusively. Social security benefits can be totally individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenI think we are not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about marriage and assets in marriage, how marriage is increasingly a pointless institution and assets in marriage are at risk so having them should discourage you from such institution. It seems you assumed I'm calling women assets or deprecated. That is not what I'm doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:14 PM |
| -1 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsIt is easier for those women to get into risky relationships when the state and men in her family are there to rescue them from her shitty irresponsible immature decisions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:13 PM |
| -1 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsWhat I find the most disgusting is that taxpayers and good men are de facto FORCED to rescue them from their bad decisions, as if these women were children or something. No man is rescued from their bad decisions, but women are. In fact, they sign petitions to release their criminal violent boyfriends, they also look for them when they are released from jail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsIt is true you can get a good man with confidence, strength, etc. but usually bad guys HAVE to have those traits to fight social expectancies. So bad guys have to have something women find attractive, while good guys who fit social norms usually don't have to fight or be strong or confident because they are not against the social current. However, yes, some women may have desire for just having sex with an evil man, just for the thrill of it, but I don't think you are right it is that common as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:10 PM |
| 0 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenWhich reduces marriage to just some legal loophole at this point, not love or any transcendent shit like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenMarriage is still much more final, I can’t just leave because I don’t feel it anymore, we are tied together and I want that. There is no legal or social mechanism to guarantee that anymore, except personal conviction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Legal commitment is way overrated by womenIf you read carefully, I did not say that is a bad thing. I'm just pointing out that that arrangement was in the past part of marriage, but not anymore, which makes marriage more redundant and pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:05 PM |
| – | Legal commitment is way overrated by women??? Having assets is actually a reason to not risk them in a historically deprecated commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:04 PM |
| 53 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?Yes, but not because those men are toxic. Women are attracted to men that are unpredictable, interesting and bold. Some good men are like that, but almost every toxic man has to be like that... I mean, you have to be brave to break social and legal expectations easily. Of course, women pay for this when they are beaten in relationships and then ask for actually nice guys for help and ask authorities to spend public money into fixing their terrible dating decisions. The guy gets out of jail and o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 01:31 PM |
| – | AI Girlfriends are just pure exploitation.Fair enough. I find it funny how women with testicles make often feel uncomfortable the same women that chilled for them. Divine justice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 08:55 PM |
| 11 | AI Girlfriends are just pure exploitation.Real girls are overrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 06:43 PM |
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