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Question for BluePillRycerzKwarcowy/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:56 PM
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Question for BluePillRycerzKwarcowy/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:57 AM
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bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:17 PM
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That's why "fake it till you make it" >>> "just be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:51 PM
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For not nerdy women usually yes. And there is not enough nerdy women for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:41 AM
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My experience comes from time when swipe-based apps like Tinder didn't exist, but online dating flourished on sites like eharmony.com or similar. Without them, I'll be completely screwed because of my social and economic background, despite studying in large city.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:01 PM
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TL;DR Did they collectively answer "it's just common sense" or something more?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:59 AM
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I grew up as a giant nerd (still I am), I'm fed up with being told how smart I am, for my musical talent (mediocre at most, but non-musical people lack knowledge to judge it) or anything related to skills and mind at all. When my cousin who wanted to marry but struggled to find a committed guy delivered classical "I would like a boyfriend like you" line I had to restrain hard from laughing my ass off. I want to feel desired, sexy and strong. Both as a husband and boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:14 AM
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Upvote if you can you recognize LOB from title alone!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:04 PM
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Butcher is also "charismatic douchebag" archetype. And I hated how they made Hughie look different than in comic books. Original Hughie looks like a guy i know IRL and the reason they didn't cast someone who looks like this is probably that people wouldn't believe Starlight fell for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:07 AM
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> Our wellbeing is affected when the complaining includes shameless, credible support of harm to women. Goalpost moved. Yuppie!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:28 AM
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If your well being is affected by their complaining, you're no different. Just use your emotional intelligence and healthy regulations skills to deal with that, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:04 PM
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Newsflash: we know nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:50 PM
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And I say they don't have to follow your limited set of choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:49 PM
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Your attempt to shame by comparing to kids throwing tantrums failed. Let's assume it's the similar case: every experienced parent knows that forcing them to calm dawn and be quiet only makes the matter worse. Random stranger urging parents to do so and criticizing them for bad parenting: makes matters twice worse. So yeah, get used to frustrated people communicating frustrations in a way you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:08 PM
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OP claims not complaining makes them less miserable; but it only makes them quiet and less irritating for outside world. It just adds "I can't even express my thoughts" to rest of misery. So yeah, "it would be nicer" for everyone except them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:43 PM
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What if they refuse to withdraw quietly and embrace being alone but continue complaining? You'll have to embrace and endure this constant noise. It is what it is, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:29 PM
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> If you are not willing to sacrifice everything to get it, then you don’t deserve it. Nothing less than eternal life in happiness (which is promise of faith in most religions) deserves such commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:21 AM
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The problem is unspoken premise, that anyone (women or man) has no control what he or she is attracted to, as you summarized as "attraction is not a negotiation". This basically means: never adjust your standards, no matter if they come from within, cultural conditioning or inducted by fiction/porn/insta/AI slop. Don't ever try to reason with it, because attraction is magical and if you can't be attracted to average person just leave it be and don't try to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:24 PM
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It's not default: it's when the "serious" candidate pool is clearly different than "hooking up" pool. Not your case, but still happens often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:06 AM
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Let her choose a guy who had a f*boy phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:21 AM
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OP is queen of strawland and protector of the stubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:14 PM
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> The worst thing a woman says is short king, which actually sounds nice When short men tell "short king" is mocking them, f*ng believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:40 PM
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> schools and colleges should tell men that if they don't focus on increasing their height, loooks and working hard to get a good income they would never get a girl No, I suggest they keep going opposite way and have special courses against "toxic masculinity", "manosphere", "redpill" etc. That will make students curious and they'll learn about these things on their own will!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:14 AM
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If you cope with traveling, you get a waiting period in my country, at least for tropical countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:11 AM
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When I was dating: combination of the last two, with a pinch of first two.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:18 PM
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> But what comes to your mind about me when you think of or see a guy like me? A living proof bluepill doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:53 AM
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Nah. You lump all "theocracies" into one category without even caring in which religion they operate, and then suggest Iraq is a dreamland for "political misogynists" whoever they are, no matter they are (at least: cultural) Christians. Thoughtful debate anyone? Did I count for that replying in Automod thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:06 AM
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"Western" part changes a lot and that's your major "gotcha!" you hoped to achieve in your original post, to little avail.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:31 AM
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LOL, and there will be in another country. Be afwaid, wabbit!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:17 AM
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It's traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:00 AM
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And I'm saying liberals would lead happier lives on some island, when they would be able to create perfect society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:38 AM
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I see that as: "People who I perceive as threat should just remove themselves and trouble me no more."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:23 AM
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> If you go to dancing classes where the point is to learn from the get go, then you won't he bellitled for it. But if you go to a dancing competition to learn it - then you would be bellitled. Context matters. In adult life there's no "classes" context of social skills. Except maybe treatment on severe (like: unable to order pizza by phone) phobias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:33 PM
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> This hostile environment is a major obstacle. I made a thread about a couple of days ago. Limited means of learning and no safe place for practice is what makes social skill totally different when compared to other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:50 AM
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As some people hinted above: "book" knowledge might cause paralysis-analysis. And you people can't imagine how I envy you about possible activities for a teenage nerd; I could totally imagine that if there was a possibility for me to do some things you said, my general condition wouldn't be as bad in my early twenties. I joined the clubs then, attended meetups and socialized as much as I could with people interested in same stuff, but that was like taking first steps when others run marathons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:06 PM
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That's why specifically asked about "as other skills". I still hold position that they are unique and require more/different things than just ability to learn, with "being thrown into deep pool" as a closest metaphor. Yeah, they are people who learned how to swim (or not to sink, at least) this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:01 PM
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No, because I could imagine I'd navigate average (hetero) woman dating life with decent results if I was able to control her as an RPG character. Then I realize I would need to forget everything about men I know from my perspective... tough luck. Contrary to what they claim, women don't understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:17 PM
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I didn't watch and I haven't heard any of these names before. Probably most really known and recognized "celebrities" of manosphere wouldn't risk their reputation for being pictured in media biased against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:37 AM
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Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:52 PM
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Key words: mobility and funds. Having unusual interests doesn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:39 PM
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When they say "you can make up for that!" what they mean usually sums up to: when you train to pretend well enough, you may pass "normality" threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:23 PM
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black-pill, context please! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:15 PM
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You didn't understand my original question and even if I know the answer I might be interested in other opinions. Generally, people confirm what I suspected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:59 PM
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A person doesn't need to be an asshole bully to reject someone. And believe me: if I wrote off anyone who treated me badly, you would probably be first to blame me instead for isolating myself. "Surround yourself with different people" is a sour advice to someone who doesn't naturally attract people, you know and freedom to "choose your crowd" is a privilege you need to recognize (in modern liberal terminology).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:55 PM
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Lack of them wasn't really my main problem and yes, I did. I made an edit about that to avoid off-topics (someone noticed that people enjoy talking about themselves, but not me and not here, it's derailing this thread).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:35 PM
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I'm not in the same position as years ago, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:30 PM
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No. But I was thinking "it's surely about me and what I'm doing wrong" and changing whatever I was doing too. Realization I was wrong about that came too late. I express irritation when I find in advice the same patterns which contributed in shaping me like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:27 PM
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Thanks and good luck to that imagined person who are you talking with. It's a little charming people here tend to talk about me instead subject I wrote about in OP, but out of curiosity: how old and in what situation did you picture Rycerz?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:53 PM
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Why didn't you understand? I wrote about situation when people embarass you even when you don't "fail", not when they do that for your mistakes. You can't "learn from mistakes" when you can't tell when and how you made mistake, in such situation almost every interaction exceeding common courtesy becomes a "mistake" to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:50 PM
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You can't make any use of embarrassment feeling if you get it for proper social interactions as mus as for social mistakes like: when people make you feel embarrassed for even trying. It's like they mock you when you say anything: stupid, smart, doesn't matter, you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:13 PM
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This was about your wild guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:05 PM
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It seems that you were kind forced to interact with other people as much as people were forced to interact *with you* (to get the job done). When people are unwilling to interact with you, you can't actually do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:27 PM
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LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:23 PM
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Because I know what red- or black-pills would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:13 PM
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You still don't seem to understand: I became a social shutin by avoiding to be seen as "creepy" and you basically said: "good job". I consider it a blessing I stopped listening to such advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:09 PM
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So, you basically want to just accept that no one wanted to talk with me? Great. > ending conversations politely when the person doesn't seem interested Didn't I just told you that it happened all the time??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:03 PM
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> Continuing to try to converse is going to get you a shitty reputation. Compared to "that weird guy who doesn't talk to anyone"? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also: why can't I assume the other person doesn't have the same problems as me? For years I thought I'm the only weird one and was super aware of not making anyone comfortable, stepping back at the slightest uneasiness. Congratulations: you just confirmed the attitude which make me "foreveralone" in first place!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:53 AM
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Factors as rejection by peers or bullying do the same to neurotypicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:41 AM
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> I think it's kinda like language learning. Just think about being non-native speaker level C in any language.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:37 AM
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> The bare minimum to not be creepy Stop here: That means nothing. > They look away a lot, don't ask questions, give short answers, they don't seem excited... I do that all the time, not because I don't like someone, but because this is how I am. > it's wild how many guys keep pushing the conversation at that point ... because they learned that they have to push conversations if they want to to have any converstations at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:36 AM
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As a full on autist you could probably take on mindset of "cracking the code" and controlling yourself as a puppet; this is what I tried but I'm not as much on spectrum as people (including me) suspect, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:30 AM
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Calling anything a "privilege" or "right" is a moral judgment and moral policing is not allowed here!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:45 PM
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Everythig feminism declares an "unfair priviledge" :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:40 PM
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Are you doing moral policing to me right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:28 PM
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"fixed by feminism" ... and put to effect executed by changing lot's of laws, social norms and strong policing that gender equality societies are more "moral" than those who don't have it yet. "Feminism" didn't fix anything by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:27 PM
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Of course I do. And I don't understand why do you want to limit that. Giving women or PoC equal rights against legal and social status quo required a lot of moral policing and also enforcement of laws etc... Why should we give up proven and solid measures?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:21 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:16 PM
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I'm not. I just point that women's problems were fixed by those tools OP excluded to fix men's problem. And some of previously socially acknowledged "men rights" had to be restricted to achieve this goal, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:11 PM
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OK. First action: moral and social policing towards more conservative model of dating, relationship and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:59 PM
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> f you provide a good argument and can give good answers when people challenge you, people will hear you out Honestly: do you think the "rights of women" were achieved by good arguments alone?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:26 PM
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> no moral and social policing > no enforcement of laws or rules > no control (...) how people might (feel or) act What was required to achieve current state of "autonomy of women"? All of what you specifically exclude as tools to fix men's problem was used to fix women's problem before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:19 PM
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"Oh noes, that's not their TRUE self!" /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:27 PM
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"Just be abusive, bro"? That requires more than that (which is not easy to do if you were timid all your life), abusive and unattractive men are called "jerks".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:50 AM
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Aren't they? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:28 PM
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Where do you think (some of) abusers come from? Why does the blue pill accuse other colors their goal is to exploit/abuse women? Why is "negging" (a sort of verbal abuse, technically) even a thing at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:31 PM
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That's also "special" in some way, some women have this preference: sometimes as a result of former abuse in childhood, sometimes as a desire for "real man". When a man expressing strength and violence is nice to them for a while they surely feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:35 PM
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Yes. Be shy but act as non shy. Be insecure but act like you don't care. Be near broke, but take her to nice place. Be a nerd but expose more socially acceptable interests. Your potential partner will surely reject you if they learn later you were not a guy she saw on first date. That's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:45 PM
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A little dose of "red" pill certainly helped me to overcome my anxieties and deal with women. It resulted in some dates and one LTR transformed to marriage up to now (and hopefully for long years to come). > What would make you consider a different approach? I used "different" (normal) approach before like being yourself and waiting for right women, it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:23 PM
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Also "treating women just as another human being" is a straight path to friendzone. Women often tell they want to be treated equally but fall for guys who treat them specially.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:34 PM
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I've noticed that too. 20 years ago the narrative was "of course personality is the key and looks is not so important for men as grooming and nice clothes". Now they claim they *always* said the same and only those silly *pills refused to learn that, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:15 AM
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Dual mating strategy is now "bluepill". WOW!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:00 PM
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Classic tropes also focused on "destiny" and fantasized that each person has their "other half" out there, and when they finally meet magic happens. This is a variant of the same archetype, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:48 AM
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On another forum there was a question: how can you be sure you will be loyal, when there is so many desirable women around? Well, for starters: I had to put a hell of an effort to get just one. There's no chance I could ever have even a chance to cheat without me actively working to get that chance, which I choose not to do. Define "available" I've got a very large range of "attractive enough", see above. No. No. No. No. What do you mean "emotionally"? Temptations? All the time! Never happened. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:57 AM
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It's just pure, old fashioned "love at first sight" when you meet The One trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:44 AM
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I never liked dates and they never were "fun". Hanging out is fun, dates are not, for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:09 AM
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Importance of looks for men is not properly recognized and men who complain about this situation ridiculed. Mainstream narrative is that men don't need to be attractive or they require only minimal effort (gym/haircut/nice clothes) to become attractive to most women or gay men. I saw an analysis of music video for "I'm sexy and I know it" claiming that men performing it are average at most, which proves that men *ARE* already body positive enough and women have a long way to go to reach this sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:48 PM
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I once heard a psychologists (Dr. K. maybe? I'm not sure) who pointed out this difference: * when woman talks about her problems with someone (friend/therapists), the stress weakens no matter of outcome of conversation * when man talks about his problems with someone and they don't find concrete solution for the problems: the stress remains the same of even grows (knowing that the other party also doesn't help to fix it). Conclusion: men's problems are not going to be solved by "men being more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:16 PM
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> To me, OF doesn’t seem any less ethical than regular porn I'm against all porn, it harms both creators and consumers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:49 AM
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Sex isn't a big deal indeed. That's why people who get it often say so. Lack of sex is a big deal. That's why people who don't get it say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:41 PM
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"Born again catholic": no such thing. You are "born again" by baptism and are Catholic when you are in communion with Church and agree with her teaching. That being said: former sinners who lecture us how lucky we are for not even having opportunity to sin are cringe AF and your fellow Catholic says that. Don't do that anymore OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:46 PM
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I spent much time online chatting and "not-a-date" meeting with woman who liked to play scrabble and beat me all the time, like IQ>160, that was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:29 PM
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Most stories in this thread "I was a normie, I didn't have to do anything, it just came along". So yeah, "just be yourself"!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:27 PM
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And man will be blamed for that in 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:02 PM
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During several dates I felt the weight on having to keep the conversation flow, because other side didn't contribute much. Usually, there were no second date in this case. That was online dating, so apparently regardless of how much dating/messaging was before, it seems that they expected someone else, not me (well, I didn't pretend to be anyone else). Nothing worthy of anecdote happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:21 PM
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...OR you may regret spending your youth doing everything "right", believing in "bluepilled" ideas and slowly getting depressed. I'm glad a bit of "red pill" (it wasn't called this way then, but basic themes were the same) woke me up from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:07 PM
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> there will be women who signal their interest in him That means: just being around and waiting for him to initiate and finally becoming irritated by lack of action from his side. And that's on assumption he's above average guy otherwise (looks, style, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:29 PM
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Too many subOP's immediately imagine Raj from "The Big Bang Theory", this is an extremely rare case. They rather should imagine a guy who can talk about anything, but is shy to make a move. That's the real problem in real life, not comedy sitcom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:57 AM
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That situation is extremely hypothetical, because: > He has such severe shyness around women he has not been able to ask one on a date or approach even after drinking. This shyness rarely takes visible forms (blushign, stuttering, etc.) in normal (not dating related) conversation or anything that makes it "cute". Women simply don't recognize it at all and rather will assume: 1. This guy is not interested in me 2. This guy is not interested in women or dating at all (gay/asexual). Shy guys are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:49 AM
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Married for almost 20y ^thanks to some RP tactics, so partial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:09 PM
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Bro's actually expecting honest answers, cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:22 PM
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It happened once to me; it didn't even require any effort from my side, because I just stopped calling and she didn't bother to connect at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 10:25 AM
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[Anyone] should not feel they have to settle for less because they have [Anything]. Besides, a real [Gender] wouldn't be intimidated by [Anyone's] circumstance anyway. Fill [] variables with what you want. Have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:04 PM
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Brilliant observation. Women's advice for men comes from "how men who hit on us should behave", not "what men who don't hit on us need to do".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:08 PM
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They want to sound it like 'selectiveness pays of and most people find their perfect match'. We know it's not truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:45 PM
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Worst possible way to navigate around that iceberg, ship goes down immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:07 AM
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I really hope all the good "back burner" guys will be snatched by girls who don't follow this stupid strategy. So many cat's need home!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:07 AM
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White flag, she'll be more acceptable towards my collections and weird interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:47 PM
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Hundreds of women expressed how they feel awkward, insecure or even threatened by men approaching them in public places, even in bars/clubs when they come "just to dance/have a drink". And before this wave of movies about "men are no longer approaching" we had even more complains about "creeps".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:53 AM
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What's a lie? Not mentioning you're really a virgin when someone assumes you're not (without ever expressing his/her assumption?).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:00 PM
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I never suggested lies, except maybe lying by omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:00 PM
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What kind of "success" do you gain by announcing your virginity?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:51 AM
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I can easily apply the same "benefits" to accepting drink from strange men and judge girls who don't do that as begin too reserved for many possibilities. Still, no, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:23 AM
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What's beautiful it's you don't have to put it to test, it's pure game theory: * reveal it: risk, no benefits * hide it: no risk So I don't have to argue about how often it happens; it's the same idea that stands behind never accepting drink from strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:12 AM
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The fact anyone asks this question proves, it's not a completely normal/neutral thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:03 AM
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Yes; the same shitty move as the other side using "cuck" as insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:30 AM
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> In real life, nobody, past highschool, knows about your virgin status, nobody assumes you could be a virgin That's the only real line of protection from virgin shaming; not that everyone is so "mature" but because it's so unlikely. As soon as they suspect you might be exception, things likely will change and it will be used against you. That's why hiding it is best strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:28 AM
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"Don't care" != "never assumed". I often advice virgin men to be vague about their past, because if she's attracted, she'll assume he's not virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:23 PM
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> No, there's nothing wrong in being inexperienced, you'll surely meet someone! (someone else, of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:15 PM
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There's this false premise that "genuine friendship should survive romantic rejection" which makes some guys stick around even when they're not comfortable with being friends anymore. This shouldn't be forced in any way, even such as suggesting that someone wasn't really a friend before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:23 PM
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Whatever my motives are, I don't approach regardless of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:47 AM
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But once I tried to strike up a conversation with an attractive girl from sci-fi club, she interpreted it as being hit on and burned me down, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:56 AM
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Never. I don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:49 AM
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Why I knew from the title the OP is LoB?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:46 AM
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They gave up women, not their right to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:10 AM
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I don't mind the difference in dating like I don't mind uneven wealth distribution; but current state of dating is more similar to some third world country with crazy wealthy minority and most people struggling to make ends meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:15 AM
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Well, individual preferences decide "which one of these X% of attractive men is attractive to me". Certainly, it won't me the same. If you're outside of this group; it doesn't matter. Most women won't say "90% of men are somehow attractive, except complete bums and slobs".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:06 PM
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Yes, she probably will show and you will know. Bad news: if you don't know, she didn't show it yet. There was a time I really believed I cannot read those mysterious "signals" properly, but the truth was: there wasn't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:48 PM
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Second that. I only had a few dates from online services, but my first (and only) GF thought I was a player dude... Finally subject of past relationships came up suddenly and caught me unprepared. Even after 20 years she still suggests I surely had multiple options, which is crazy. One may wonder, what would happen if she knew the truth from the beginning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:42 PM
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> Problem is the guy can't get women just because women assume he's competent. He has to also actually be competent. That's where "fake it 'till you make it" comes to rescue. > even if some had a baseline attraction to him With baseline attraction and positive assumptions in OP definition, requirement of competence lowers sometimes to "don't f*ck it up too badly". Some level of attractiveness is required, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:27 PM
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It's a big optimism to assume anyone cares about some "beta" men opinion. Sure, let's ostracize the "bad boys", they won't even notice, because they ostracized us first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:39 PM
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Women have no idea how hard dating is for men; they assume men have it a lot easier than them, so when someone complains they think they lack absolutely basic things; and that's why "shower and actually talk to women" comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:33 AM
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Who will judge if you're doing 100% or only 95?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:49 PM
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Those who have this goal already do so without your encouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:30 PM
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I never had a script; maybe flag this as question for RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:07 AM
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This sub is too young and I'm too old. Whatever mind-changing happened, it was long before any *pill discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:25 PM
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We're not always horny, sometimes we have sex not in the mood only because you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:23 AM
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Different: yes. Better: no. You seem to lie about being a materialist, but that's not a problem, because sincere materialists are hard to find. You also seem to not understand my claim, because they are not about what causes the specific state of brain. So agree: they were formed to be miserable, not created: no difference. And if BP is too simplistic for you, then discuss RP only, which is more about complex, social mechanics. So: if your point about BP/RP is that they are oversimplified, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:00 PM
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> No. I don't care about a spiritual plane. Love happens in the brain. If love happens in the brain and non-material doesn't exist, the same is true for BP; some brains naturally fall for it and there's nothing you can do about that: them being miserable is just their natural state which is no better or worse than your state of being irritated by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:30 PM
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I don't discuss someone's else ideas or beliefs. And the core of black/red pill is not "women evil, men good", that's a caricature. As I understand BP at it's core is "rules are set by genetics" and RP also considers social factors. The nature of love and emotions is not what they discuss, although their believers tend to have materialistic view. I'm not a materialist, but on this world believing that "love trumps all" is naive. Anyway: if you think non-material world (including what we call sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:00 PM
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> this worldview that is so different from the general understanding of society LOL, it isn't. EDIT: main elements of black/red pill view are already present in society and they hardly deny it. Only putting them together and dumping that load on random person might be traumatizing. My GF still wanted me when after she learned I'm quite bitter person and she had her own stories to tell along these lines, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:13 AM
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> I'm saying the ones who dont get dates are a worse version than the ones who can. Straight from the horse's mouth!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:44 AM
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You also assume that guys you met on dates are just like the guys who get no dates. Do you see a problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:10 PM
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Like: "One complains that he feels he has so little people to talk to and he’s worried being only tolerate him, but when I invite him to a group outing, he doesnt want to." Yeah, most here complain no one ever invites them. We're not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:29 AM
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This is ridiculous. When we complain like: we've never been to a house party, they imagine we reject all invitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:27 AM
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With all traits remaining the same: I'd be that nerdy girl not liked by girls but good looking enough to be approached, so I'd fall for the first guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:54 AM
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> However, pretty much the opposite is true. WAS true at the beginning of internet dating, when Tinder-like apps didn't exist and profile contents actually mattered. I could even make contact and set up a date WITHOUT profile picture, which is not possible today. For people without social network it was a real opportunity, because only minority dated online and all came from similar background. Nowadays online dating is the norm and apps are a hellhole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:17 AM
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Is it a tricky question? It's just another way to tell "I'm not really attracted and that's his fault"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:56 PM
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Those who have options should not hit only on "top" of their option (exactly their type and very attractive), but also those who don't fit this ideal. And keep it real, because anyone may claim "my type is Brad Pitt, but I sometimes give chance for men who aren't Brad Pitt". The same applies to men, of course. EDIT: in order to not add disclaimers like "no one should be forced to date anyone they don't like!" I would rephrase this as: Women (and men) should give THEMSELVES a chance to meet someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:52 PM
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Bro, is "who was your prom date" question also red flag fucking weird for you? People who are dating for relationship ARE interested in that kind of details and lack of experience soon will be obvious. Stick with "nobody cares" (which is also false, but harder to refute).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:22 AM
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A little dose of red-pill and some of their strategies might be helpful only for some mental blocks, when "being yourself" didn't have any outcomes, any script to follow is better than continuing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:49 AM
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Now I seriously don't know what you want from me. I can only tell my one experience: two roommates in bar hanging out, sharing stories about past girlfriends and giving meaningful glances in my direction. I should have known better and shut up then, but I've learned my lesson, so I was more careful later, so that's only one. That's so much about "nobody really cares".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:29 PM
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Edited: my English skills needs refreshing, especially when negative sentences in my own language are completely different in structure and grammar. Scenarios when someone admits he's a virgin and it backfires are not made up. Even awkwardness/reluctance for discussing this might be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:21 PM
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By giving wrong response to any question regarding current or past relationship. It's like stepping on minefield. To whom: anyone (except maybe family and closest friends), but especially to potential girlfriend. Just don't. (EDITED)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:14 PM
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Risky claim. When they learn they were pity-dated or pity-anything, zero confidence may actually turn negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:56 PM
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The moment they foolishly admit to not having any dates/girlfiends/sex before in his late twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:52 PM
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> I ask all this as an atheist woman Good that OP declares complete misunderstanding on religion and reasons why people do them upfront. How many times you need to you recite "religions are just power structures created to control women!" before you started to believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:55 AM
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Women often say that as a cover for their inactivity "Oh, we don't approach, because men actually don't like that and they'll loose interest!".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:23 AM
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> they simply don't enjoy the fundamental action of making the first move The myth that men are natural hunters and enjoy the chase needs to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:18 AM
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I've got similiar observation: modern society destroyed old-fashoned ways as "oppresive" giving little in return, in result: both men and women suffer more, although in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:44 AM
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> Most of the relationships I’ve had began through a kind of friendship. The hardest for me was: expecting the same but didn't getting that; all of environment I was active in (school, work, sci-fi fandom) didn't result in any friendship, not talking about relationships. Turning to online dates was result of desperation and navigating though them felt like a chore with very little fun. Burden of being the active side is unfair, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:25 AM
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> I consider myself pretty average I bet you underestimate big time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:49 AM
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I've heard this so often I started believing that "Kwarcowy, maybe you just don't notice". Big, stinky bullshit. When I got lucky at last I *knew* that without looking for those mysterious "the looks". So when guys tell you no woman approached or signaled them in any form, f*ing believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:25 PM
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- 0.5; very mixed signals - 0 - 1, but it was only for networking in sci-fi fandom community
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:17 PM
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It's very simple. If people don't want to hire you, you'll be jobless. So unemployment isn't a problem to be solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:28 AM
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Some dick-headish traits might actually make you more attractive, but that's another story. The most you can achieve by just being good is being virtually invisible instead of being disliked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:36 PM
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It's good idea, but completely unrelated to attraction. In a blunt oversimplification: * unattractive and dickhead: "that's why you're single" * unattractive and not dickhead: "you'll find someone eventually!" (still single)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:14 PM
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This is a composed sentence: * if you're unattractive, you need to make up for it (true) * you can make up for it with general "goodness" (false, but they claim it's true)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:53 PM
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> Every single man I’ve talked to attests to the fact that only low tier women want them. How the hell people understood is as OP had "low tier" women interested in him and rejected them? Reading comprehension anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:35 AM
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> I'm arguing that this cost is way higher than the one of keeping some hope That's a personal issue, you can't weight it from outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:06 AM
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No, there's a hidden cost or keeping the hopes up. That's why I stopped betting on high price lotteries at all as well. When someone estimates his/her chance for relationship as low as winning national lottery, then really the only winning move is not to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:51 AM
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That was one of my exit plans, but after 40 or so. I didn't want to argue with all "but you're still young" whiners and decided I'll keep trying no matter how at least until 40, then I'll reconsider: keep living single life or otherwise. But I'm not the one to judge when enough is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:46 AM
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No, it's not low cost. It's like scratching an itching wound and thus not letting it heal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:42 AM
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OK, I'm tired of this, so let me just explain: When you give an example of a man/woman who "only complains" during date, the issue is not complaining but LACK OF: other topics, showing interest in other party, cracking a joke, etc. etc. Show me a person who only talks about his/her job -- without complaining about it! -- and results will be ghosting as well. That's why you didn't "provide you with a real life example" for your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:21 PM
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Just make it about all about me not getting women, it will totally make your points stronger! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:01 PM
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> someone outside the bubble getting interested in what I was saying Yup, me never; but I may share an anecdote about girl a girl on a MUD players meetup irritated that people there gathered to talk about their favorite game! Yet you just come to lecture us it's "all about passion"... > Nooo I got it, but I'm fairly rated by myself I would say I agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:36 PM
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LOL, now you're now just aggresively missunderstanding what I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:24 PM
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No, you said "just sit around a complain / focus on negatives the entire encounter". Inability to hold casual small talk is something different than just "complaining", even if you believe your wife's friend to provide 100% accurate description of both encounter and reason of ghosting. Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:05 PM
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One side of story, as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:43 PM
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> (This is starting to piss me off) Get used to it. > I think a good voice Yup, just add another purely physical trait to list of "personality" traits :D An unattractive guy doesn't have the chance to show "charisma" or "personality"; they may pour all of their passion to what they talk about, and get empty looks and change of subject. > I promise you that's not true I don't say you're attractive on absolute scale; I just claim you're more attractive that you think, that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:05 PM
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Nah, it's the other way around: when you're attractive, people want to hear about your passions. OP's probably more attractive than he thinks he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:36 PM
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They don't do that to score a date. And since they are already unattractive, they care little about the effect. An overall attractive person who only unattractive trait is complaining: there's no such unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:16 PM
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> That said, my critiques of her — and many online relationship coaches — is she often emphasises the need to be "healed" and "whole" before finding someone you can be in love with. Massive bullshit I will fight with until my last breath. I actually met my future wife near the lowest point in my life, because I really looked for dates and ultimately a partner. If I were busy "healing" or whatever, I'd probably never meet anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:30 AM
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Are you asking about reason why people do that, or a way *how* they do that? OP gave a good example (ant they are many more) about the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:01 AM
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I've already told what: > Porn is evel because it destroys dignity of ALL involved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:43 AM
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I appreciate the honesty, but only it. This way you only teat symptoms of disease, without addressing the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:36 AM
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She want's me to be her girlfriend bestie, left. I'm not some stand-up clown, miss! left. So cliche, not creative at all, but maybe she'll be OK in direct conversation. Consider right. Good, I don't want to party every weekend, maybe right. Oh, no, no, no; that's not "love to travel", single 2 month cruise or hiking trip to one country is. Wonder if she funded all this trips from own money? Definitely left. Ask "wanna date?" in first message.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:34 PM
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If you imagine a man watching porn and first think that comes to your mind is "this man indirectly exploits women and makes them his sex subjects" and not "this man indulges in addictive self harm, destroying his human dignity and value", I suspect you don't really care about what men do, as long as women are not involved. What about gay porn then, huh? Is it more or less morally wrong on your scale? (LOL)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:15 AM
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This is not the main reason and is very weak as argument, even to a feminist, because then idea of "ethical porn" with consent of all parties is brought up, "sex work rights" and "sluthaming" follow next etc. and suddenly: evil of porn is just lack of enforcing proper regulations and non-exploitive port industry is possible... NO. Porn is evel because it destroys dignity of ALL involved, both makers and consumers. You seem to notice only the part, when women suffer, even as remotely as being sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:05 AM
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Funny you mention that: I've got a wife and adult son. Now it's time for you to s*ut up, because that obviously means I'm right about relationship stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:37 AM
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Only you mentioned blaming women in this thread, so bash yourself instead. Also I'm also here with solution for all incels: just get a girlfriend! They say they can't? What a stubborn, women-blaming bunch! LOL, I'm so helpful!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:29 AM
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For the sake of readers: women put their part in me being single; my social circle or lack of it doesn't invalidate this, but that's not a matter to discuss with OP, who just seeks another think to declare a "bigger problem" than women and stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:49 AM
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That's the way you dismiss people's problem which makes me unwilling to discuss any my past or current problems with you. You're here to put people down, not just talk with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:45 AM
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You were already given multiple "whys" you lightly dismissed without proper consideration. And yes, people have bigger problems which can't be fixed by "just throw up a party".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:16 AM
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I didn't make any claims and I'm not obliged to assert any claim to contradict yours. Defend your cause in different style.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:43 AM
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Another free lesson in logic: P->Q may be true even if P is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:27 AM
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That's the result of non-sequitur reasoning I explained in comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:59 AM
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Before I read another lame remark: * someone who has no friends has a problem * someone who is not attractive to women for any reason, also has a problem * someone who is very short and is not attractive has two problems; having one problem doesn't cancel the second one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:04 AM
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How this topics are even related to each other? Was just a thought experiment to prove some point, not a solution proposal? FYI: both social situation and women might be a problem, there's no logical reason the problem is ONLY ONE of the mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:34 AM
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Absolutely. OP just can't comprehend someone who is never invited and couldn't even invite anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:28 AM
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I'll just drop something I told OP via DM: Having trouble with dating? Don't worry, try something multitude harder: build a circle of friends who will come to your parties! Don't you think it's kind of counterproductive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:08 PM
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No, we don't talk about those who actively "refuse", let's talk about those who don't get invited and no one would come if they invite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:59 PM
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Exactly; but as you can see above many claim "oh, no, you're only a looser if you are asshole"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:45 PM
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No, that's something different. You may be broke, homeless, drug addict, but according to them you are less "loser" that a guy who complains about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:30 AM
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Why the hell do people assume a "loser" status has anything to do with one's morals, attitude or personality? "Oh, you're only an user when you shit-talk about women for your problems!" Just give me a break...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:39 AM
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Isn't the one screwed by luck kind of a looser by definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:35 AM
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Discover yourself, go on spiritual and intellectual journey, overthink all things and just watch every normal person just living their lives and getting into relationship just like that. No, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:23 AM
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Let's take a man aged 29 years and 364 days which didn't have a sex and relationship. Will you claim that there's 99% chance for him to to get a date with sex this evening if he tries? Because that's what you did...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:30 PM
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This is your error: you take probability of RANDOMLY CHOSEN guy of getting a relationship and compare to probability of SELECTED guy to get into relationship and assume they need to be close or equal. Ever studied math and probability theory? I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:10 PM
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So everyone who does your "bare minimum" but doesn't get a partner is a counterexample to idea of bare minimum and you shouldn't use it at all :D I'll make it easier for you: * some people need to do more than bare minimum, however defined * the might decide the effort is not worth it * success of OTHERS doesn't affect situation of these people in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:34 PM
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LOL. You can't think logically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:10 PM
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Yes, I do. Existence of people, who didn't need extra effort doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:06 PM
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How pointing at those who didn't "squeeze" so much but got juice anyway may support your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:51 AM
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No. That means you need an extra amount of effort, way beyond what's on your bullet list.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:55 AM
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Strategy for people with plenty of dating options and predator-filtering benefit is questionable. Yes, they'll be filtered out (along with decent possible dates, but who cares: there are plenty of them) and really dangerous psychos will still slip trough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:11 PM
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The OP is the reason why I, married for almost 20 years, am still on this kind of forums like that: to prove not every one who "ascended" is a humblebragging twit preaching on "just do what I did" melody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:45 AM
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Worst possible advice: "don't make dating/relationship your goal".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:59 AM
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Think of such advice as an useless "mathom" gift which will only take place and catch dust. Friends will pretend to like it, but random strangers don't feel obliged to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:43 AM
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I just mind my business and am invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:05 AM
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Men should to be allowed to feel anxiety, insecurity, even fear *by women*. Sadly, that's not the case. Even my fiance seemed not to believe my, when I later told them about how anxious I was. I was pretty good at hiding it, I guess. Meanwhile, even in feminist/woke discourse, women's fears related to dating are considered "serious" (because of possibility of violence or abuse), but in other ways they're downplayed as only related to "fragile ego" or "toxic masculinity" (being rejected, laughed …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:52 PM
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I agree with post title so much, I'm afraid to read the contents. Would you do a TL;DR to me, AutoMod?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:50 PM
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Oh, how much I miss old love-shy.com forum, great people and good talks. Almost as good as talking to AutoMod!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:40 AM
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> Let’s not sugarcoat it: at this stage, mistakes cost way more. (...) In high school, that might have been cute. Now? It’s a red flag. She will just move on to the next guy. This is how most of my dates ended, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:05 AM
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These rants of LoB are becoming less coherrent every time, what does she want to say this time? Can you explain me, AutoMod?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:07 PM
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Hi AutoMod, nice to see you again! Did LoB just write "if you're called a creep, you are"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:28 PM
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> It only holds as much value as people choose to give it Libido says: bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:22 PM
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Now you're talking about something else and falsely accusing those who don't want extra effort for some kind of slackery. In your Good Book parable of workers in winery ends not with hiring them and paying wages, but with telling them "go and plant your own!".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:49 PM
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Not everyone is stategy-making, career planning type, people just want to live their lives doing simple things like education, job, and family and leisure time. Meanwhile, they are forced (by shaming and blaming, not by actual force, ofc) to become managers of their own life hired on 150% overtime just to achieve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:21 AM
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I see LoB post, so I know only sensible talk will be with AutoMod. Hi there, artificial buddy!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:30 PM
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Having to dedicate most of your time to improving your chances in sexual marketplace IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM. Not taking this huge effort is not always "mental block".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:47 AM
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No, I won't stop. You're constantly abusing debate flair and I want others to know before they decide to engage. When they do anyway, at least they've been warned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:53 PM
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I refuse to let LoB monopolize this sub with cheap provocations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:47 PM
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I'm a parent of a teenage boy. For my, my parents advice about dating/relationship failed miserably. I'm fully aware that any specific advice from me will fail even more, so I don't give any. Instead, I can only give him support for any other fields in life where I could be helpful, so he might have a solid base for the not-so-near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:27 PM
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LoB making assumption which allow her to be judgemental and condescending; just an everyday day on the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:25 PM
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That's IT-class bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:24 AM
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No, they didn't. They choose to stay hungry when there's no cake on table.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:01 AM
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Attractive people may struggle with getting a stable relationship, but not with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:41 AM
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In short: when dealing with women problems you get a list of things society, government, institutions, even religions need to do. When talking about men's issues: it always comes to what men should do or don't do, because they shape their own fates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:02 PM
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Listen what this guy has to say for "incels", lol: "If you think you’re getting rejected because of your virtues and not because of your faults, your virtues
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:22 PM
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> Do people not talk to the older generations anymore about how it works? Do people no longer confide in their parents? Is there any real world dating advice going on? The problem is we DID listen and then reality check came.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:15 PM
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"Getting in touch with inner asshole" TL;DR, but I'll remember this phrase, because this is exactly what I did to finally get on dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:36 AM
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This may go both way: if a "rejection" is something minor, this means someone wasn't really interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:01 PM
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Second that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:52 PM
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> Then that's something you should work on. Maybe. Let's start with having a clean situation without person who triggers emotion and anxiety close to subOP!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:52 PM
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Breaking contact with crush also requires mental effort, I don't know why everyone thinks it's easier solution for lazy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:47 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:22 PM
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But when you crush on someone, you tend not to notice interest of others. A bunch of female friends: sure, it may help. but one you still crush on: not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:15 PM
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Good. >And Im tired of the “Women arent entitled to male friendships” clapback. Then make yourself just ignore it, problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:33 PM
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> Yes. Thats precisely how I feel, thank you. Then stop. And I can request this from you because you also tell other people how they SHOULD feel. > Though, sometimes it feels like people will be imagining sex, marriage, and kids before even making the first step in anything. Yeah, if only people could STOP that and gain perfect control on own thoughts, imagination and desires, it would be so much better! But nooo, it's their fault they can't or they only pretend they can't because of some nasty …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:46 AM
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I'd like to mention that staying friends with your crush also lessens your chances for getting crush on someone else with better outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:36 AM
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That's "everyone should be like me, because if I can be this way, everybody can and should". No. When someone cannot stay in "friendzone", then one should stop being friends without any blame. I can only criticize ones staying there and complaining about discomfort. It's perfectly fine when people stay friends, it's as much fine when they part their ways, but when someone suffers from "friendzoning" I'd advice to muster strength required for proper breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:31 AM
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> Willing to end a friendship you ALLEGEDLY valued because your genitals wont get touched is insane behavior. Staying in close friendship with someone you've developed feelings when they're not reciprocated is bigger insanity. Trivializing it as a blue-balls kind of pain is not right and unfair. Yes, I value my own sanity more than anyone's friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:10 AM
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I saw many answer like "if you're a virgin and decent person" you won't experience v-s or "you won't be shamed only for being a virgin" which kind of confirms people pick on others virginity, but only when other party really, really deserves that (lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:06 AM
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...and surely we'll use it against you? Oh, bad luck, there's actuall law forbidding that. Well, we'll think about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:39 AM
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People who answered that virgin/experience shaming is not really a thing UNTIL it becomes a thing (due to someone being such a prick he/she deserves to be hit where it hurts) kind of confirms my general suspicion, that the maturity factor is more about: not picking on each other and getting into quarrels than not using low ad-persona insults such as v-s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:53 AM
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Checking if I understand correctly: would you say it's similar to fist-fight: in young years for most stupid reasons, as an adult: only if some serious line is crossed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:31 PM
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How can you notice when dating really starts to suck? You can always say "it sucks only for you, because (reasons)" even if dating game becomes worse and worse and number of losers increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:02 AM
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Society has little to do to make thinks better for us, but it has very much to do about future generation, because what is "attractive" is very much shaped by upbringing. Sadly, society continues to only make things worse and blame boogeymen as "toxic masculinity" for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:12 PM
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These "questions" are so biased I don't even...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:29 AM
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Romantic Hollywood-movie vision of love and marriage needs to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:12 AM
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No. Any advice which focuses on how one should think or feel is useless. Tell how how to date while being pessimist, not feeling good enough and without "undying belief" or STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:45 AM
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I had my nose broken by boozed guy just because my one-word replies to his drunken rants were "disrespectful" or sth. That's real life, no some bar-fight scenario in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:24 PM
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Having at least 70% of you "interesting" checklist, I was able to get very little dates and most of them ended being "friendzoned" or ghosted after single date. Sorry OP: your list can only be a nice bonus to more important things, which are already mentioned by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:33 AM
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Mixed: in colors you can say its blackened purple. Yep, from mostly blue. Reality hit. I'm not in age when people change much. Dunno, complete makeover of contemporary society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:42 AM
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Just explain why don't just install Tinder for 1000th time, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:25 PM
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It's sometimes so frustrating, because multiple times when she finally opened up it wen like "I like when you do [the thing] but after I told you I don't want you to do [the thing] because you do it because I told you to do [the thing]".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:26 PM
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Second thought: if complaining gives you opportunity to offer help, you should encourage it even more! Once they stop; how could you even know they need it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:56 AM
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That explains their motives, but that doesn't mean giving up posts are meant to provoke such reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:21 PM
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That doesn't answer me: why the response is more often "don't do that, you're wrong" instead of "OK, good luck, bro"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:07 PM
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Reverse-Uno: why do people feel compelled to challenge their decision? Apart from "prove me wrong" motive you suggest, formal annoucment is stronger than just making up one's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:05 PM
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All people who answer they learned dating by just dating need to stop and check their privilege, as leftists say, because next they do is assume undateables just do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:49 PM
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> Sex is not reward for good behavior! > Men behaved bad? Let's punish them with no sexytime!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:49 AM
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Yeah, a man might be sensitive but only for feelings and suffering of OTHERS, but not about his OWN.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:20 PM
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I've heard women saying, that men approaching first is a privilege too; so the only thing they need is having that privilege too and don't care about how men use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:29 AM
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I don't. I never met any!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:28 AM
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You do you. You might be in minority and probably you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:47 AM
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If you're a feminist: be happy. You wanted equality: you're going to get it. On average, men still approach women way more often than other way around, so men need to approach even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:43 AM
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A woman saying you’re inexperienced so you wouldn’t know x , isn’t necessarily a woman a virgin would want to potentially lose their virginity to Oh, please, don't try to persuade someone's virginity is a kind of protection shield against bad women. A little culture-inducted prejudice might be as well just a little flaw of generally good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:05 AM
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Why would that not be evidence of how women react to being told they were his first? Because you ask about declaration of possible reaction. I propose observation of actual reaction, which requires a pool of >30 male virgins who had experience OP asked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:35 PM
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Evidence for TRUE thoughts and feeling? No such thing. Majority of older (>30) male virgins reporting neutral or positive reaction after their first partner learned about that would be a good hint (but also not evidence).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:17 AM
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This is not evidence (I warned you, LOL)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:39 AM
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Not having to worry about STI's is one of very few, very little advantages of virgin's life. Mind I wouldn't want to pair with someone so worried about them she has to perform a medical interview on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:25 PM
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That scares me because I might meet people as stupid and don't know about that. What she said is "nice guy finish last and that's good because ever girl wants a nice guy the end". That's EXACTLY the same what those "skeptical" men claim, but the only difference is they say it's bad. So they didn't even argue about what's important. And what they both seem to omit once former "douchebag" settle down and play nice guys, they'll be "winners" again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:50 PM
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Basically, now that she's 25 she is ready to settle down - she's ready for the nice guys, like her current boyfriend. Is it a joke I don't get or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:15 PM
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That sounds more believable than sex past / STI survey...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:59 PM
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flee response to those questions would be a big red flag After someone just waved even bigger red flag by ASKING them? :D Not my problem anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:57 PM
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So far multiple answer in "nothing special, but [reasons it was special]" pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:34 AM
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I'm a "show me evidence for God" atheist type in this matter, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:14 AM
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Since you're not much into details, maybe point at some movie or book where such conversation is described? I'm just curious, I'd probably flee anyway if I was inquired about anything of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:13 AM
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So I'm curious what men think about the attractiveness of women who actually remain virgins for a while When I was dating in my late 20's I didn't expect I'll meet any virgin women my age so I didn't even have a second thought about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:55 AM
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I have no idea how I could ever be in this situation because obviously we’d talk about sex before having it. Could you brief us in such talk? I'm very interested how so called "normal" people deal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:41 AM
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And here goes virtue signalling...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:42 AM
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Yeah, I always smirked when people use "high social skills" to describe someone who's life of a party, but not someone who you can have meaningful conversation with while sitting in corner. And how those of high social skills only use them to identify those on the same level to interact, constantly taking someone's awkwardness or shyness as silent rejection. In my book that doesn't count as "social skills" but I'm in minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:41 AM
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Depends on relationship stage: after marriage I'd stay, before: I don't know. Anyway: women should know they may compare to previous partners only if they want to say current one is better (even if he isn't). The same applies to men as well. Mixed-pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 03:41 PM
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It's never acceptable when she doesn't want it. Bar - just came here for drink! Club - just came here to dance! Gym - just came here to exercise! Hobby group - I just wanted to learn pottery!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:23 AM
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it didn’t work for me Well, it didn't. Have you got anything else in stock?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:36 AM
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So what do men want? Consistency. We're good at playing by the rules. We're good at sometimes breaking them to gain advantage too. Both are impossible when there are no rules or when they are messed up on purpose. And why should women care? You got what your grandmas wanted, now you make the rules instead of long established traditions you rejected as "created by men for men". It's like not caring about the car while sitting on driver's seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:28 AM
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Talking to women like I was interested "normally" never resulted in a date. So yes, there's a "special" kind of talk or your intention should be clear by situation (like online dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:09 AM
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Every time you come into contact with a woman is technically an opportunity. Recipe for FOMO and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:05 AM
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Cool/outgoing/open... you just keep giving different names for the same. There are people not like that and everything they year is "just be different".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:04 AM
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Nope. Picture yourself as an second-hand car seller: I don't even want to look at your offer, but that doesn't men I don't want to drive a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:53 PM
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I can give you a very specific step by step guide if that's what you want. I bet you can, they're not better anyway. But you don't want that. Correct. You want to feel wronged by life rather than change you circumstances. Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:31 PM
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I don't; am I allowed to be against OF without questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:30 AM
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It will just take [...] ... some vague and unmesureable conditions, that always might be used as excuse it didn't work eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:22 AM
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regret of squandering such opportunities You shouldn't feel compelled to approach anyone attractive who you cross paths with of course ... so you regret only those meetings you consider as "opportunities" and without clear signal of interest I didn't see any "opportunities" at all, so I have nothing to regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:38 AM
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Never had friends dare you do something stupid and when you refused called you a spoilsport?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:03 AM
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They're upset you didn't make a show of yourself for their amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:33 PM
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Well, some happen to be the "not cool" ones, burned down on every attempt to join the "cool" group. That's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:48 AM
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Just treat it as a fun place to socialise Terrible idea, that's the worst evnironment ever. You can't even introduce yourself without shouting. People always come in friend groups and it's even more awkward to join.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:09 PM
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They'll say they prefer Adam, but if Caleb becomes "mature" and settles down it's Caleb all the way. Caleb always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:20 PM
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NO. I'll turn him into mature, well adjusted young man I was his age. Is he angry about what he sees? Good, let this anger drive him. Want to buy that bike and leather jacket to impress some bimbo? Go for it son, you have my sword, my axe and a part of my bank account balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:26 PM
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I could be this son... A couple of times my mum "joked" (I hope) in my fathers presence about a scene from "Gone with the wind" (or sequel of the novel), when Rhett Butler does exaclty the same "favour" for some orphaned boy, whose father died in civil war. Oh God... had they tried something like that, I'd refuse and loose (very little) trust for them and wished to die from cringe instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:02 PM
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What's going on there, what was the purpose of this "social experiment" or sth?
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