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DebateS0nG0ku88/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:58 PM
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The subject is literally about the superficial aspects of sex. Not the deeper emotional bonding aspects, love or relationship. You can always tell when a woman is triggered because their constructed world view can't handle the truth. If you were to ask women to be superficial about sexual attractiveness or features of other women on a scale they would also highlight many of the same women and features men do. Women compare themselves to each other as well and also find women to be beautiful. Man…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:45 PM
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That's more or less what I said without lying or distorting the truth. Men and women are just wired differently, it doesn't make men monsters because they value sex more than women do. We are biologically and psiologically & psychologically wired this way as part our hormonal makeup. It doesn't make us incapable of love or keeping our word or committments. There are a lot of married couples who report dissatisfaction with their sex lives or desiring a better one. Men AND Women for sometimes simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:19 PM
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That's not what I am saying, that's what OP is saying. OP seems to struggle to cope. No one stays young forever including men. I am kind of sick of women acting like they aren't superficial or selfish in any way though, it would be somewhat comical if it wasn't so pathetically transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:11 PM
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It's a compromise, at least those men got to experience their "prime" wife. Those experienced and memories exist. The sexual attraction goes from less of what you look like thing (still important) and more effort based what they are willing to do for you sort of thing so I say the sexy part becomes less about what they look like and more about the flirting, foreplay, effort made into making it a good quality experience. That could include dressing up, role play or performative sex. It becomes ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:27 PM
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Whilst I make decent money my wife (& 2 children) have stayed at home for 9 years and financially it has been rough with the loss of one income. The difference between one versus two incomes is massive. I get jealous of all the things other couples get to do compared to me. There is a lot of stress and anxiety about making it to the next month/year. It's very isolating. It isn't for the faint hearted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:06 PM
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Except that OF model who retired with 67 million after 3 years of work. Granted very small % of women are that successful. She had no regrets. It seems the only regrets is when the payout isn't high enough or worth it versus the work. If you offered the average non-sex working woman a billion dollars for one night of wild sex that had to be publically viewed a lot more would say yes than you think would say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:48 AM
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God have mercy on whatever poor soul you end up with. Your entire thesis is stay at home women should be "paid" for choosing to be stay at home mothers (ridiculous) or that we should somehow acknowledge being a coal miner, deep sea welder, oil rig worker, truck driver, doctors, hell even janitorial at the hospital is somehow on par with or equal to a job you can do in your pajamas? In air conditioning? Have groceries deliveried whilst watching Yo Gabba Gabba or playing on your phone? That we pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:19 AM
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I don't know what you are ranting & raving about. It is not a career choice, literally by definition. It is an occupation. No one is paying you to have a child. Microsoft & Coca Cola aren't hiring for stay at home moms. No man supporting a stay at home mother (& child) isn't demanding $0.75 every time his wife pours herself a bowl of cereal. $1.00 everytime she uses the shower and a $5.00 a day for electricity for the sake of "balance" or "respect". If income and expenses are shared what are we …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:23 PM
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People who talk in terms of domestic labor and being unpaid to clean up after themselves and a child they choose to have are super weird. It reeks of approaching relationships transactionally. Gives me the ick. Choosing to be a stay at home mother is an occupational and life choice not a career choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:33 PM
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Women just don't like sex as much as men do. It seems a lot of women love the security and benefits of monogamy and LTR without loving the work that needs to go into it to keep it healthy. It seems a lot of women will have sex for money, fun, attention, flings, secure a LTR but have difficulties having sex for love within a committed LTR, let alone give their sexual "best" efforts. All of that is reserved for the "courting" period which leads a lot of men to ask if you're only going to give your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:47 PM
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Yeah and women are all just sooo perfect huh? This narrative that only men are problematic is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:19 PM
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This is what I am saying. "All men are bad". Boo hoo with my 500 choices. You ladies have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:18 PM
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A ton of women have no issues having dated around successfully or unsuccessfully, having a hoe phase or sexual exploration phase. Being promiscuous whilst they are young & beautiful and then when they edge close to 30 and realize their options are dwindling for either biological clock to have children or marriage and find the next available guy to settle with (like the last flight out of Dubai in a war) and will redefine what all those relationships or sex meant. Meaning they were all assholes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:06 AM
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Ever see those reality TV shows where the groups of men/women are separated into two teams. The women always do terribly and are miserable, low morale- while the men are laughing, joking, bonding and mostly having a great time being successful together & living in harmony. Are we perfect? No, yeah there are occasional fights but compared to the female camp, it's wildly different dynamics. Men don't get hung up on the feelings portion of everything are more successfully able to compartmentalize o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:43 AM
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Or she will gaslight him into thinking he's wrong and then fight him when tries to advocate for himself: -First comes normalization; Other couples aren't having sex like this. -Everything is about sex with you, sex obsessed pervert. Worse she will treat sex transactionally and weaponize it. Men are often blamed for this but in my experience it's women who treat sex transactionally. Men treat sex as a mutual duty/responsibility we have to the relationship which is a contributing factor to the slo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:11 PM
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I'm not actually short, fat & bald, haha. I used it as an example for the purposes of illustrating my point of view that there are men out there struggiling with loneliness, intimacy and that there are women who are more superficial than they would have you believe but thanks for help proving my point. Society tells men to continously work on themselves and upgrade themselves in some way. Society tells women they are perfect the way they are, it's everyone else who needs to change to accommodate…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:10 PM
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I asked the question and you repeated MY question to me. Not very original, not sure why I'm obligated to answer. You aren't making any points at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:17 PM
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What are you going on about? My original point was about this woman claiming to not have any physical or superficial standards when it comes to being attracted to or pursuing men. She would have you believe personality or vibes trump everything a woman might desire in a relationship and if men were only good "nice" guys they would fare better but that's demonstratably not true from the get go for most men. I'm not saying personality doesn't matter at all but I am saying women have just as many p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:28 PM
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Yeah well the single ladies can tell that to their cats and the married ones can tell that to their husbands I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:05 AM
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He's my sleep paralysis demon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:36 AM
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You're "EX", check. Are you married to your current "partner", is she- I mean he balding? Check. Is your current partner or ex shorter than you? Probably not. Check. The vast majority of women beyond their initial sexual exploration or "hoe phase" or women past a particular age are not interested in hook ups and you know that as well as I do. Sex is easy for women to get. Women want committment, monogamy, marriage, children. This places an entirely different and in many ways much higher bar and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:34 AM
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Women & men aren't the same. We have problems and struggles unique to our sex and gender that the other gender struggle to understand or rationalize. Sometimes those problems overlap and become human problems but some problems, advantages & dating or pairing strategies are wildly different and to say so otherwise would be dishonest. When it comes to dating, finding a partner, human intimacy the female gender (& gay men) have an easier time racking up the numbers. It's just math, publically avail…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:01 AM
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The only dating struggles women have is an overabundance of options and an overinflated sense of self worth. Didn't refute or deny anything I said? Check. Wouldn't herself date a short, bald and fat man with an average job. Check. Women love to project they are saints without a superficial bone in their bodies but they are just better are lying, it's just good for the brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:37 AM
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Accountability usually intersects with perceived "responsibilities" in the relationship, a lack of effort, or the truth. Women are largely conditioned in today's society & culture to believe men are responsible for 99% of a relationship going well or bad and try to remove their agency and responsibility from the relationship and victimize themselves. This is strongly reinforced through media, social media, women themselves. It's like a force field to prevent them from ever being wrong about some…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:31 AM
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Women don't really have to put themselves out there so they wouldn't know what it's like to be rejected for being too short or bald thousands of times before they find someone who sees through that or can lower their standards for a date. Pretty easy when you can setup "VACANCY" flashing sign, like flies to shit. I can't imagine what it feels like to browse through near limitless options for intimacy. The fatest woman you know could run Bonnie Blue numbers within a couple months and still have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:17 AM
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Unfortunately yes, it's cultural & biologically reinforced. Women don't like to hear it but they are the ones who often treat sex transactionally. Sex and the ethics/morality attached to it is subjective to the female rationalization. It's not that women are gold diggers but I have seen women treat sex opportunistically in the sense that are totally fine being their sluttiest self provided they are achieving the goal they wanted in advancing a relationship, receiving attention, or pure financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:50 AM
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Easy for women to say when most of y'all have the sex drive of a 70 year old nun with cobwebs in her cooter. Men literally wake up with boners, we are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:39 PM
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Imagine being the bruised and damaged banana and thinking the other bananas are jealous of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:06 PM
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Men and women have different physiques and at different periods of life. There are a lot of out of shape men with good looking in shape women and vice versa. I have seen plenty of young guys in good shape with women in bad shape and I have seen a lot more older guys who look in great shape in contrast with their older wives who are in worse shape. Sometimes people start working on their bodies just for themselves or they have superior genetics. It really just depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:26 PM
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So then you aren't speaking from a place of experience. It's great you're young & fit and have a high libido and a great sex life but you aren't really equipped to speak to people who are having difficulties when you aren't having any. Libido mismatch or desire gap (especially for women) can't always be negotiated at the later stages of life. You say "fix it" but if all things being equal in good in a relationship; one person only desires sex every couple of weeks and the other every couple of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:05 PM
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There is a difference between scheduling sex or duty sex that is unwanted and a partner who just doesn't prioritize or value sex the same way as a HL male does. Low desire (& low energy) paired with reactive desire & ADD is a bad combo for a successful long term sex life. It's usually the latter, and in an effort to make the relationship work the LL is often the one to suggesting scheduling sex so their partner doesn't leave, cheat or watch porn. It's not just men in those forums there is a size…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:28 PM
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In other news water is wet. This isn't just unique to women. As women age and lose their desirability it not only becomes more difficult for them to pull these antics but most of the men that would want to meet are only hooking up for the possibility of sex and not long term romance. Most women over a certain age aren't looking for hookups and most men over a certain age aren't looking for a project or to be the rebound guy when a woman already has children with another man and a whole host of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:17 AM
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Hahaha. A physical encounter. This is what I mean. The mental gymnastics. Women re-define what a 'relationship' is based on what they want or what their emotions tell them. Men will ask a direct question like "how many you have been with" and women will remove the 'physical encounters' from the list and only count relationships that lasted longer than 1 night stand. Men don't care about the 'emotional connection' you had with those men, they care if you have been slobbing on these dudes every ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 11:24 PM
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They only call the sex "mediocre" when they are no longer with them. It's also a bit of a deflection basically saying "the sex isn't worth it" implying most men are bad at sex but women generally get into relationships and situationships because of FEELINGS that lead to sex. Women act like they have superwomen tolerance to not be tempted by sex but they are very susceptible to both their feelings & social settings. Almost every guy I know has overwhelming ancedotal evidence that when women are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:39 PM
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There's this thing called "Lying".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:20 PM
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Yes, if not more. Depends on how you 'define' relationship. If you have seen each other naked or touched each other private parts or made out that "counts" to most men. The count goes higher the prettier the woman is or if she have a very active social life. Women almost always have larger body counts then men on average and they always lie about the numbers to reduce them. Assuming women date or fool around with 1 man a year since she was 16 that would at least put her in the 14 count range by …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:18 PM
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I'm not defending what he's doing or how he is acting, I am saying you need to get at the heart or source of why he feels the way he does. What is he lacking or what does he need from you? Sometimes red pill is a response where a man doesn't feel respected or cared for in some way, that life is not fair to them somehow. Red pill is a very umbrella term. Not all of the red pill and manosphere is built on doing manipulative stuff or being a douche bag. A lot of was originally born out of psycholog…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:39 PM
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Red pill and manosphere strategies aren't all about building attraction. A lot of it is introspection or trying to better yourself physically or emotionally. For many it's also about self respect, direct communication, and creating healthy boundaries. Every relationship is built on exchanges & give and take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:49 PM
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I think most men know this inherently, it's beaten into us at a young age that men are only as good as the support or value they provide. Women idealize & romanticize relationships, monogamy, and sex more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:39 PM
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Men are valuable for what we can or can't do. We have to add value. Women are valuable for who and what they are. Women have always been the gate keepers of sex. Nobody wants to be lonely, most people desire meaning & purpose in their life or have ambitions for it. People also want the societal & familial validation of the experience. Women want committment so men are now becoming gate keepers to long term relationships, marriage & children. I see a lot of men becoming committment phobes and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:33 PM
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The D.E.N.N.I.S system at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:25 AM
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Exactly. Men have been de-valuing themselves for years. Take some pride in who you are and what you bring to the table and you will stop selling yourself short and letting people take advantage of you or walk all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:40 PM
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You were "trying" to conceive after 35. Did you? Did yoy have a child? My wife and I conceived with fertility mediciation and I know many others. No one is calling women a barren husk but you. All I did was state the obivious that having a child becomes exponetially more difficult (not easier) the older you are. You can argue until you are blue in the face but I know for a fact I'm right. Your own cited evidence indicates as such. Early 30's and late 20's are essentially the same range. Peak fer…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:45 PM
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It is not factually incorrect. Have you spoken with an OBGYN or fertility doctor? Define "barley" less fertile. Egg count drops into 30's and even further into 40's. It's not impossible (and many get pregnant easily) but for many others it's difficult enough many couples who waited until their 30's need fertility medication or IVF after months of trying. Biology doesn't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:14 PM
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Because the vast majority of women DO want long term committment, stability & supoort. That's the end game in their minds. Sex is easy. Sticking around is the harder part. Also, and I hate to be that guy if she has waited until 30 to "have a family" she has basically waited too long. It's very difficult (not impossible) to have babies after 30 but it's nothing like having a baby in your 20's where it's not only easier to get pregnant (based on egg count) but your body bounces or snaps back to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:02 AM
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The trick for women is finding a man who will commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:02 AM
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Because "women are great". SAHM's are allowed to be miserable but the working dad's supporting them are not. Women broadly make a couple assumptions that working & supporting their families under financially strained conditions can very isolating and hard on men emotionally just as much as it can be for women. Having children is not a license to be miserable. Getting married isn't a license to stop caring about sex. Women need to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:17 PM
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If that was the case they would be more sexually active but that's not what we see in real life. Single life in most bars & club districts are dominated by women between the age of 18-30. Dating apps are dominated by women beteeen the ages of 18-30. And long term relationships (marriage, etc) sex is the number #1 reason for divorce. Women over age of 30 having too many responsibilities and too little energy. Most women at this age aren't as confident or outgoing sexually as they were in prior ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:52 AM
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It's also the years women 'most' desire sex, have the most energy, and are willing to explore or have fun. Evolutionary psychology is a thing for a reason. Human beings have mating stategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:17 AM
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Have fun dying alone. FYI- cats will eat their owners post mortem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:45 PM
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Being a slut is absolutely a subjective term to the person using it. You just said Chad, another arguably subective term. Not sure how can you say so confidently that women who are promiscous or selling their bodies for money DON'T also want love? Is it not possible to want both things? Money & love? Attention & love? Is it not posisble to be in your "hoe" phase AND then find love? Like I said many of these women are going to settle down some day. I also said this isn't limited to sluts & hoes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:38 PM
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Multiple offspring means an even greater chance your genes endure. Multiple offspring could also mean genetic diversity (across multiple males) Multiple offspring in modern society might even increase your own chances of survival depending on social & financial support.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:12 PM
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Am I not allowed to have an opinion on the state of sex & society? Why does this upset you? I didn't come here to discuss MY wife or relationship. I have life experience with not just my wife but other friends & couples as well as years of reading various topics that interest me as it relates to it. People are just assuming that i'm personally unhappy or jealous or scorned as it relates to all this and maybe there is an element of that buried somewhere deep in my psyche but right now it's mostly…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:55 PM
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Believe what you want. Women lie just as often as men do. You can't pretend like sluts don't exist because we know they do. The only question is how to define what a slut is to you (subjectively) and how prevelant it is today, and what your comfort level is with that. OF models, porn stars, strippers & sluts need love too. You can't run the same game forever. Eventually those same hoes are gonna settle downor catch feelings and when they do you can believe that sex won't be an "important" factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:12 PM
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Many random one stands and hookups turn into short or long term relationships. I feel like you are overlooking this. Women "saving" themselves for marriage is not very common these days. They are eventually going to give up the goods if they are in relationship, doesn't matter if it's 2 weeks or 2 months. Women may use sex to further solidy a relationship or bond or she may not care. My stance is that women of all age brackets on average have a higher median number of sexual partners (because as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:19 PM
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Why bother? Because women are conditioned by society & biological imperatives to seek out out a mate & have children. Or to avoid being lonely? Or to be sexually fulfilled? A vibrator is nice but so is a warm body? And men seek women out? And women aren't exactly sitting at home 24/7. They socialize. Not every woman is out there wanting to have husbands, children or families (many prefer being single or childless) but there is a ALOT of them that do want children someday so they will play the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:51 AM
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So you are basically complaining that even though dating apps & are skewed largely in woman's favor there still isn't enough options? Do you hear yourself? The risks to "hooking" up are less than ever with birth control, IUD's, condoms, plan B, vasectomies and people doing non PIV activities. Not to even get into the abortion topic. STD's have been down for a long time. You say female sexuality doesn't work like this but we are literally watching it play out? Woman have a field day exploring the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:24 PM
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There are TON of women who are in the 20-40 age bracket who have had over 20 different sexual partners. Even those numbers are hard for men to achieve. That basically 1 or 2 people a year (sometimes more) for several sustained years. Not very difficult for a woman with an active dating life to achieve as she is the one chosing mates. Women just don't realize the amount of work, time, energy courting a woman takes and the amount of rejection the average good looking man sustains. They just kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:16 PM
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Go search "Gen Z is having less sex" and you'll find the first 20 pages from various websites all parroting the same thing in a giant echo chamber. Gen Z is "supposedly" having less sex but they are ALL referencing just 1 single recent study from the CDC.. Now.. I don't work for the CDC nor do I know how their sample testing is done but I do know this... it's only 1 study from one group, it was done in the aftermath of COVID with no follow up studies to measure what happens when Gen Z is minglin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:58 PM
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This is what I am saying. Very difficult for men to get into body counts of 50+, let alone 100+ without just being rich, famous, good looking and outright paying for it. It's relatively easy for good looking sex positive high libido women who have no shame or issues when it comes to casual sex. The average woman sluts around and has more sexual partners than men, this has been proven in multiple studies, reviews of dating sites and just self admission of women lying about their sexual histories …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:42 PM
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I've heard this said before too. It seems women will trade a couple points in attraction if you can make them laugh or feel really great about themselves. I think men are similar to a degree. Many men know 'game' is important, especially if you are working from an attraction disadvantage compared to the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:43 PM
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There is some truth to that. I think emotions & 'wanting things' trump whatever attractive physical attibutes woman are looking for. Women are very much willing to lose a couple points on attractiveness if that means a couple extra points in career ambition or bank account or just being a really nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:37 PM
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I am not wikipedia. The ability copy-paste links to OP-ED internet articles or articles with old or shitty research is not some great skill nor does it make your argument more convincing. You can go do your research if you truly want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:18 PM
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If there was such a disconnect when it comes to money why do many OF models hide their work from their public persona? Why do many porn stars want to erase their work? I don't think many women are prepared well for long term relationships. They are generally told what they are supposed to get and receive and not a lot of discussion on how to be better partners to men. Women have zero problems expecting things from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:24 AM
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So you are married and have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:21 PM
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Cat lady
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:38 PM
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90% of OF don't make any money at all so I would say about 90% of the time. I'm talking about sex in long term relationships, cohabitation & marriage. Do you have any experience with any of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:37 PM
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We can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:31 PM
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So okay. Well based on your replies you fit the archetype I am trying to describe and are confirming the bias I am establishing. I don't mean any direct insults to you as a person, every person is direct and have different values & relationships but for me.. If my spouse felt like you did I would find it very difficult to continue being in a relationship with someone who didn't treat my sexual needs as somewhat important. It also sounds like your husband needs to focus more on your sexual needs …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:30 PM
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So... from your experience.. men don't complain about sex... ever... especially in confined long term relationships.... Walk that through one more time logically and compare it to the real world or even the internet.. and now tell me I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:25 PM
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Because porn and only fans models are so ubiquitus and we live in a more sexually open and free society than ever before women are being exposed to sexual acts depicted in porn by men (or by watching porn themselves) and trying them at younger and younger ages. Young teenagers thinking it's okay to facial their girlfriend without pre-discussing it or perform anal without any education as to how (safely, cleanly) these things are absolutely happening because of mounting social pressures and poor …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:24 PM
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Yes i'm aware I have anwered my own question, mother nature is a cruel ironic bitch. Women may be pickier than men but that's like saying you can't find something you want to watch on Netflix. Women have more options and choices than ever before. It's like picking a guy out of a vending machine. It's hardly relatable to the male experience. If a young woman wants to explore her sexuality and see what sorts of guys or sexual acts she is into she is very free to do so for as long as she wants to. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:16 PM
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Yeah women say this shit but then find it impossible to make themselves orgasm with their own fingers & imagination. Men are generally obsessed with not only how big their dicks are but brag about if they can make women orgasm. I know it's a major insecurity among men and there are dozens of articles, subjects all directing men how to be better lovers in bed. Almost every woman in America has a vibrator today and a lot of them use them in bed (if their man isn't so insecure) because why not? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:10 PM
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Because mOst men are complaining. It's like a top #1 complaint among men in LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:02 PM
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Is there a lot of porn like that? Sure. Is there a lot of porn NOT like that too, yes there absolutely is. Depends on what the viewer likes to watch. Not all porn is degrading, BDSM, hardcore, violent or gross but a lot of porn (90%) is geared towards male fantasies but that doesn't mean it's ALL violent & degrading. Some women are even watching it for their own fantasies. I really believe it's subjective to what the viewer enjoys. I don't believe you have to agree to anything you aren't comfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:01 PM
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There are a lot of men "taking care of" and feel like they are parenting or supporting their wives. It's not "fun" to be the sole provider of a household or family working 50+ hours a week and come home to it being a disaster for days on end, with no dinners or food being made for days on end, no laundry, trash everywhere, dishes everywhere and a woman who has been on her phone facetiming and tiktoking all day and missed paying the bills or getting groceries. Only to make dinner ourselves for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:32 PM
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That's my point. Looking sexy requires a certain amount of physical, emotional, financial labor. Woman often stop trying once they have secured their investment of a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:23 PM
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So is blowjob a porn act? Doggy style? Using a vibrator? I'm less concerned about degrading and more concerned about boring with the language you use. I think the general population just assumes porn = bad/gross but when was the last time you watched some to have a point of reference? How can you improve your game if you don't know how the other players are playing? It sounds like you just don't care that much (like many women I'm describing) It's pretty sad when one partner isn't willing to try…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:18 PM
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Yes women exist in that forum but the ratio is absolutely not 50/50. You might find 2 women for every 8 men. And even that is an oversampling of data. Very few women are genuine high libido. A lot of them have just let themselves go and their husbands aren't attracted to them anymore. It's not sex thing, it's a attraction thing. But yeah there are also some guys out there who are also genuine low libidos. This problem is much more commonly complained about among men though. Everyone kind of intu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:00 PM
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Men are just as fed up? Not sure if you have noticed. Men are being told by other men not marry under any circumstances, passport bro a wife. I think it's a breakdown on traditional and societal norms, more variety and options than ever before, more freedom than ever before. A widening gap in political differences between males & females. Western women are less likely to embrace tradition cultural norms or relationships. There's less incentives for both sexes to have traditional relationships of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:09 AM
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So we gotta test them. Trial run.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:03 AM
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Because she no experience with long term relationships or cohabitation. She thinks simply having a vagina makes her opinion informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:02 AM
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Then it doesn't sound like you are in a good position to dole out relationship advice does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:22 AM
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I'm talking about consensual sex. No one is talking about coercion. I'm not saying sex is an actual responsibility as outlined by law but it should be TREATED like a responsibility (by the female) if you want to have a successful long term relationship. At least 50% responsible for your partners sexual satisfication. Women want to act like they have zero influence or part of their partners or mutual sexual satisfication is such a wild take. If any woman was unsatisfied sexually with their man th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:21 AM
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My wife and actually have sex pretty frequently, not that you asked about any of my background information. You are making a lot of assumptions about me. I'm saying a lot of woman like yourself are just opportunistic users who treat men like garbage, like a portable purse that's only good until it goes out of style and stops serving it's function.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:03 AM
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I don't think you know what Testerone even does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:54 AM
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Oh please. As if every woman out there isn't trauma & drama dumping their spouse on a daily basis. Women feel very empowered be themselves emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:53 AM
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Miss me with the double standard BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:52 AM
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I agree with everything you said I am simply saying the inverse can be true for men and that's even more difficult when you are trying to get sex from someone you also feel like you have to parent, clean up after, or support in some capacity can also not be very sexy. I think my background is probably more rare than a lot of other guys as I had to take personal responsibility for myself at a young age so maybe there are a lot of bums out there who can't take of themselves or their houses or love…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:50 AM
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Yeah. Knowing what I do about statistics & studies I know data can be represented or framed in a lot of misleading ways. And.. people lie, and tell half truths. My ancedotal evidence tells me almost every single girl or woman I knew grewing up had way more sexual partners than men. And that wasn't just me either but who knows the reality? Maybe women have more sexual partners sooner than men as they are the ones who can essentially choose and men catch up later in life number wise? I don't know.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:44 AM
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And do you think men just role out of bed as Alpha providers but also with a caring & nuturing side? There is a certain amount of acting & theater with all of our roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:23 AM
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Dude your name is "ThatBitch" with a title of "promiscuous woman". A little judgy wouldn't you say? Don't being throwing stones in a glass house.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:21 AM
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"Women are great" effect in full swing tonight. I love how it's assumed every woman is awesome & flawless and every man is piece of garbage. That's always the answer because of course it is. Women don't have any flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:20 AM
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No. You sound very unsexy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:17 AM
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You say that but there are women who are getting T-gel supplements injected in their butts to help with their libidos post babies or as they are aging 40+ and guess what they all universally report? They grow from almost zero interest in sex, mostly reactive, only wanting it a couple times a month at most to overnight after injection not being able to control their libido's and spontaneous desire for sex that they want it 2 or 3 times a day. It's a real treatment any woman can go get today. So g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:15 AM
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I'm sorry if that was your experience but it's not everyones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:09 AM
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No one talks about work division though? Never any issues with men supporting their partners, wives & children for several years on end financially with no help there. No one talks about that shit. Yes, chores matters to an extent (if you are with a slob) but it's certainly overblown. In the modern era it has literally never been easier to manage a household with modern washing machines, hot water, indoor plumbing, internet, Netflix, groceries delivered to your doorstep. It's always presented as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:09 AM
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I'm using language to describe sex. I'm sorry if it icks you out. You must not be very comfortable discussing sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:58 AM
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You are missing the point entirely. It's not about sex everyday it's about a partner who is going to prioritize your sexual satisfication and happiness to some degree and every single woman out there is automatically assuming not only are they doing this themselves (how do they know? Did they ask their spousss) but every other woman is doing this with great effort & no flaws to be reported. Men's emotional, financial, physical support is "expected" in relationships, law, & society whereas women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:56 AM
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Not always true. Sex isn't a light switch. Many men have tried picking up ALL their wives physical, emotional, financial labors only to be met with basically the same results. This men are garbage narrative needs to stop. Not all women are amazing, a lot of y'all are falling short to. Start holding yourselves accountable to each other on the things that aren't popular to talk about like sex. I love how every woman just assumes every man with a wife is "being taken care of" and not the other way …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:46 AM
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That's not what I am saying. Men also desire emotional connection, relationships. I am saying we have the same priority list but in different orders of operation and different libidos altogether. Men desire sex higher on that priority list than women do if it wasn't more obivious to society. Men can easily and willingly have sex when they are upset, drunk, sick, smelly, not confident, late at night, multiple times a day, early morning, before an important task. This is not something women can ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:43 AM
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You are describing the mother-wife where a woman has to "parent" their husband or spouse. Make his doctor appts, clean up after him. This isn't limited to just women or one sex. Many men with SAHM feel they have daughter-wives that they are essentially having to constantly support and/or pickup after in order to support the life style they said they wanted and we also told and expected to do so without complaint. It's definitely not a sexy vibe or place to be. Many women aren't the natural care …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:53 PM
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Well speak for yourself. My wife orgasms 3 times to my 1 every session. Granted the vibrator is doing a lot of the work & heavy lifting but i'm in there too dammit! It's funny women say "porny" shit as if "porn" can't also just be real amateur sex happening on a camera. I get that porn isn't a realistic portrayal of relationships or sex but there is a lot of porn where REAL amateur sex is being had and a lot of women who do real life "porn acts" for their husbands so the where does one begin & t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:40 PM
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Heavy doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:27 PM
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Maybe some part of that is related to sexual confidence as well? Many women "feel" sexier when they are in better shape or more physically fit. Many women feel a need to both feel sexy in order to actually enjoy sex better. If you're not in shape it's hard to feel sexy, thus hard to feel a raw desire for sex. For whatever reason men can be slobs though and still seemingly desire sex to the same levels as a guy in shape. Probably hormonal reasons like Testerone pushing them on but at some point t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:25 PM
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Thank you for the insights. You have a really unique perspective on the subjects being bi & a bit of an intellectual. I think up until 2020 people were having more sex, including younger generations but Covid sent a lot of that into dissaray and other elements like (online dating, OF, less sex) went into overdrive to compensate for the change in society and now that we have sort of emerged from that Covid fog factiry reset. Maybe it is true that younger women are being more conservative. Maybe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:21 PM
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That's really good man. Seriously, not sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:10 PM
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Well guys dating outwardly slutty women for LTR might be a recipe for disaster like I am pointing out. I think there is a difference between dressing your age, or for the social situation vs. how you dress for your husband in the privacy of your home during an intimate moment or on a date somewhere in public. Also a difference between dressing slutty or acting slutty. I guess when I say slutty here what I am really saying is being sexually assertive, proactive or responsive. Taking a larger than…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:36 PM
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You can complain about the framing but it's still a standing structure. Building code may be a bit questionable. Haha. I understand we have come a long way as a society and how we discuss sex but it's still the elephant in the room. And women do have sex for men, sometimes they do. Just for men. And sometimes men do things just for women, and sometimes they do them because they love them and other times they them because it's part of the job, caring about someone, sacrificing for someone. Someti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:13 PM
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That's great. Good for you guys. It's always good to check in and make sure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:02 PM
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Men being potatoes is a sterotype that has gone on forever in popular culture (and while there is some truth to it, some men are the cause of their own problems) but I have found it to be so far from the truth out here in real world. Women can be potatoes too. If the sexual desire is real and strong enough something like chores isn't going to get in the way of you doing it. (It never did at the beggining of a relationship) - it seems choreplay is the most common fallback thing mentioned online. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:01 PM
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But this is exactly what women do in long term relationships. They view sex as a chore to be done when they have time for it and not an important bonding activity that brings both partners together or something that help's their spouse emotional wellbeing or even something done because they themselves have genuine desire for their partner. Why would a man want to be with a women who is emotionally draining him AND not sexually fulfilling him? If men have a greater sexual needs what incentives ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:57 PM
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I would. I actually said congrats to a bunch of people on their great relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:14 PM
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I think you are caring to much about what some reddit stranger has to say. Just pointing out some ugly truths as I see them. People having less sex for contrived reasons that suit them doesn't sound like personal growth to me but to each their own. If two people agreed to be committed to each other but then one cheats is that changing priorities, is that growth? Just because someone else needed some attention or sex? When women change their priorities they call it growth (because it suits their …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:14 PM
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Sure. Restraint & self control are good qualities to have as well. Absolutely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:05 PM
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This does occur, absolutely. There are also high libido women & low libido women out there. People from all walks of life. I am speaking in generalities. Most women I know aren't experiencing their sexual "awakenings" when they are old. They are just reverting back to the strategy I previoisly mentioned. They know they have to up their sex appeal, glam themselves up, put themselves out there if they want a new relationship and/or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:03 PM
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Well.. some of that is generational & societal as well. You needed 12 kids to run a farm back then. 6 were going to die from a disease. No birth control & a man with a raging sex desire and people were no where near as educated, open, honest about sexual interdynamics as they are today. Let's just hope those women were getting some orgasms imbetween all those children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:01 PM
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Every person has to work out what frequency, quality is satisfactory for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:58 PM
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Many guys starting to feel the same way. The crappy sex and 1000 additional responsibilities and additional emotional labor isn't worth a lifetime of committment for a pat on the back or to have everything taken from you. Porn, prostitution, sex toys are more widely available than ever. Who needs a relationship I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:48 PM
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Being physically fit & healthy is definitely important & more relevant than ever with Western diets & obeisity. And yes, men are just as guilty of these things (and more) in being a shitty, inconsiderate, not engaged or present partners. Both partners should be proactive in watering & maintaining their relationship and not backslide into "reactive mode".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:46 PM
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2 birds one stone. Someone is getting laid tonight dammit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:43 PM
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Although I am already familiar with all these concepts they are still all excellent points. Relationships should strive for some kind of equity or equality if there can be. When there can't be relationships should strive for compromise and understanding. I'm not trying to be too critical of women. Men absolutely have their faults and there are many bad apples out there. Many men are their own worst enemies in relationships. 100% true. No arguements from me there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:39 PM
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I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in how women view and change their feelings towards sex as they age, as they age they lose more of that perceived influence & power and they have to change their relationship with it and re-define what it means to them as a means placate their egos. Sex is important early in life. Sex becomes unimportant when one party no longer values or desires it the same way they once did. So they come up with their own internal self justifications (i've matured as a person, i'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:35 PM
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YOU are the one commenting & replying and listing 20 questions to me. You can just say you disagree or that I'm wrong. It's not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:23 PM
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Is it because women always assume sex with them is amazing or awesome or are you actively checking in to make sure it is in fact, great? There's this phenomenon called Golden Vagina or Golden Penis syndrome where people act like their sexual partners are "lucky" (conciously or subconciously) their partners "get" to sleep with them. So they shift gears into "receive" mode or starfish in the bed expecting their partners to "do all the work" and satisfy them every time instead of sex being like a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:20 PM
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Married 11+ years, in a LTR for 16+ years. Everything you have stated is wrong: 1) Women don't have a lot of Testerone but they have the most Testerone through their biological prime birthing years of 16-26 years old. Testerone is the hormone needed for proactive sexual desire & interest. After 30+ (or children, whichever comes first) their T-levels nosedive dramatically. Men are on a different bell curve entirely and have 10-20x the amounts of Testerone well into our 50's. 2) Most young women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:10 PM
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I agree with the overall premesis of no one is "entitled" to sex but in the real world it's much different, more morally gray. People feel entitled to the benefits of each others labor & finances without it being a social taboo. Even the states & some legal codes allow for marriage annullment if sex isn't being had by both parties. Some even allow for women to divorce a man no fault if he's knowingly infertile. I believe that while no one is entitled to sex, a healthy sex life is absolutely vita…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:54 PM
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Right on! Get it. Happy for you guys. Because they aren't talking. Not everybody is comfortable discussing the inner details of their sex lives openly with everyone and not everyone is honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:43 PM
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Yeah sure. That wasn't never in dispute. They just don't like it as much as us bro, especially after a certain age or committment level (unless they are directly benefitting) That's kind of the topic at hand here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:41 PM
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I absolutely know what consent, coercion is. I am 100% in favor of consent but there's a diffference between being situationally agreeable to sex in a reactive way and actually interested in sex in a proactive way. I'm saying women and society kind of utilize biological excuses for not meeting men's biological needs but men have no such excuses for emotional or relationship labor. Woman are ultimately the gate keepers of sex in most relationships sex doesn't happen if a woman doesn't already wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:36 PM
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There may be an element of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:22 PM
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1st: The vast majority of OF models probably don't have husbands. It's just statistically unlikely. Are there some? Sure, absolutely. Some husbands & wives make content together, not disputing this. But my general point was towards a certain type of woman comfortable with using her sexuality via voyerisum or for profit. 2nd: I'm talking specifically about long term relationships & marriages. Not newly married young couples with no children or life responsibilities. 3rd: Eventually OF models, por…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:21 PM
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I am married longer than you. 11+ years, together for 16+ years. Maybe you are just really fortunate & lucky to have your relationship & spouse? Maybe you just value sex differently than most men? Nothing to complain about when you are satisfied. I have spoken to & know a lot of men living lives of quiet desperation, very sexually frustrated or unfulfilled across the social strata. There are many forums, books, subreddits, silly social movements. Men being sexually unhappy or unfulfilled in long…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:08 PM
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Congrats to you. That's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:03 PM
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Are you rocking his?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:03 PM
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Is your husband though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:03 PM
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That's pretty awesome, very inspiring. Not just from a superficial stand point but because you actually care. A lot of work I am sure. I hope he appreciates the things you do for him & takes the time to thank you accordingly. Sometimes men aren't asking for much but something a little "more" than casual clothes or effort. Relationships are work. Both partners have to be actively working & trying to make their partners lives better & more enjoyable in whatever ways you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:58 PM
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Sounds about right. Emotional labor & LTR relationships are work too. Just unseen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:52 PM
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Yes, exactly this. Relationships do require effort from both parties (men & women) A lot of people do use their marriage or responsibilites as an excuse to not try as hard. It's a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:51 PM
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The exception proves the rule. I was speaking in generalities anyways but there are always going to be exceptions to any arguement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:49 PM
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Then you are one of the few men who choose wisely or got lucky. Most men in LTR aren't as sexually satisfied as you. You're wife must be making a lot of effort. Maybe you should go thank her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:48 PM
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Marred 15+ years with two children. You couldn't be more wrong. What about you? Where's your experience? Are you married? How many sexual partners have you had? You sound young & naive and probably match the archetype I'm trying to describe here perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:45 PM
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It's not just OF models. It's dating apps. Social settings. All of it. It's that women act like sexuality & intimacy isn't 50% their responsibility in LTR beyond a certain age or emotional discomfort they are supposed to just get an exception or full pass to do whatever they want as the relationship suits them. For as long as possible? Terrible deal. If men treated emotions the same way women treat sex then I can just bounce whenever you have a difficult day and get the sniffles and are feeling …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:41 PM
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It's not that women are incapable of wanting sex it's that men & women are fundamentally wired differently in regards to our libidos and usually for most men the point where they felt most sexually fulfilled (in terms of frequency & quality) is at the beggining of most relationships when most of the effort is being made. Once a woman feels secure enough not to try as hard at something she will continue to do so and put her man on slow vanilla drip and pretend her sex life is satisfactory to ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:33 PM
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Old enough to see the pattern and cycle repeating itself in many different relationships. It's more like women universally change sexually AFTER they have secured their LTR investment. Because they have the privlege & power to do so. Women try harder sexually during the courting phase than they ever do once they "have their man" . Men are just as guilty as not trying and many different areas of life (maybe the cause of their own problems) but this an observation about women and their attituded t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:14 PM
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Yeah those points make sense to me. You might be right about long term relationships being not realistic by modern standards. The data certainly seems to support that. If not more challenging today than they have been in years past. I guess it depends on what you want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:02 PM
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You have a unique perspective. I'm not saying you are wrong just talking out loud here. I don't really believe men & women are fundamentally sexually compatible at all. I think like a venn diagram there is some overlap in the middle or there is a place where two lines meet on a chart but our tragectories are different. I think the problem for a lot of LTR is that there is no guarentees, speaking as man. Value systems & people don't stay the same. People grow & change in different areas, sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:57 PM
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Basically a long winded way of saying my standards for one night stands are much lower than my standards for anything repetitive or long term. This is also generally why men are upset. Good sex is a thing men value. Women don't value it the same. To watch women give it away so freely on one night stands or with FWB but then only to turn around and commodify it again with terms & conditions that have to be met for their long term partner who eventually will have to basically beg for sex or be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 12:24 PM
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Wrong. The majority of women can't afford to have a family or children or a house all on their own. That's why less children are being had today then in years past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:51 AM
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You might not care but the vast majority of people DO care. I think you are in the miniority opinion there but i'm not judging. To each their own. Whatever works. I'm not sure what you mean by "sex acts only" - that seems impossible? You call cheating a breach of trust or breaking an agreement but for many men (& women) view NOT having sex (or sex not important or a priority) just as much of a betrayal or breach of trust because you are soley dependent & relying in that person to fulfill your ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:56 PM
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If sex isn't a thing that binds or bonds you then you shouldn't care if a partner has sex with other people or cheats on you but people do. Polyamorous relationships would be a lot more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:36 PM
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Hard disagree. Many SAHM start from a place of privilege and choice. There are exceptions of course (unplanned pregnancy, etc) but for many women who idealize traditional familiy life that is the ultimate biological imperative & social goal or aspiration to give life meaning & purpose. It's not without it's struggles but almost immense sense of accomplishment & satisfactions. Being is SAHM is a privilege not a right. Not every working parent or man to a SAHM is "thrilled" to be supporting a spou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:39 PM
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Someone's never done heroin or cocaine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:57 AM
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Or for all I know is the mother of 2 down the street supporting her children via OF... Most major porn sites and the industry not only self-police their own sites but are subject to government law & authorities. If you got most major porn sites 9/10 of the videos are from known major actresses or performers and literally have references to their info. I'm not saying the industry is perfect or without it's ugly dark side but it has come a long way in the last 10 years alone. Not sure why women fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:19 PM
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My apologies, maybe I was. I agree with you as well, didn't mean to make you repeat yourself. I didn't downvote you? But maybe I don't know how to reddit reply properly. I will upvote you now. Happy travels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:42 AM
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I'm sex positive. Bad girls like sex too. So do good girls. I just try my best to keep it real, keep it moderate, and avoid extreme positions. Most discussions are like a venn diagram where there is some overlap in the middle. No one is perfect. Both sexes have their pitfalls. I've been in deadbedroom sub for awhile and there are some interesting opinions, narratives & arguments that go back and fourth from both sexes. Very fascinating stuff, some helpful, some not. A lot of people who cause the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:34 AM
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I'm not sure men are complaining women are promiscuous? Maybe they are. Women complain about men watching porn and that doesn't exactly qualify as cheating or promiscous behavior. I hear from a lot of older married guys who complain women are prudes so I guess it depends on your age and background. A lot of 30+ women are more desperate for men to commit to them asking where the good men are at who want 30+ women who have a child from a previous marriage. I think that's women and society who slut…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:31 AM
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Those cases do exist but they are in the miniority compared to men. It's kind of the exception that proves the rule. Genuine porn addiction is real but those sound like cases of a dysfunctional relationship or a very minimum their partner isn't meeting their sexual needs somehow (level of attraction, diversity, etc) - maybe a selfish individual not meant for monogamous relationship. Those cases exist. Absolutely they do. But if we are willing to say all of that exists you must admit the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:09 AM
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I love how women demonize porn but are totally okay rubbing one out with their clit destroyer 3000 vibrator to their own imaginations as if that was somehow better. They can't wrestle with their own insecurities & dissastisfaction but somehow expect men to. I'm not sure why people feel the need to dictate to others how they choose to get off in their own private time. Why does my masturbation routine bother you so much? If a woman wanted to get off with a furry dolphin costume and a clown & midg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:36 AM
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Crickets...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:23 AM
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Porn has always existed and always will. Since the dawn of cave man age we have been carving the female image into the side of a rock and beating off to it. You underestimate the creativity of the depraved male mind and the need for sexual release. I always hate takes like this because sure yes Porn has some unrealistic depictions of sex but it also has REAL depiciations of sex. That's what sex looks like and is. Not every video is a professional porn actress. A lot of videos are done by amateur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:54 PM
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I prefer to use the term "traditional" but no I don't think all women (and men) are cut out for a "traditional" household & marriage, especially Western women. The "women are great" rule holds true here, women don't deal with that specific criticism well. If it were easy, they would all be great at it but it isn't so they arent. I think many women may desire a traditional marriage-life, glamorize it but once they finally get their wish it's a classic case of "grass is always greener" and it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:57 PM
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I can't really relate. I'm a man and the only breadwinner and my wife has been SAHM for 7 years now and is a terrible house keeper AND I help her with general cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping, meal planning. Women like to generalize like they are all GOOD at house chores & adult responsibilities but they aren't. Many are just okay or barley cutting it. Add children in the mix and women start to blame all their short comings on children or their husband, even when children start to go to schoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:53 PM
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Lady.. anyone can post articles online and anyone can cite them if I really wanted to I could spend half the day citing sources to confirm my gender bias but I'm not going to do it and besides like I told you it's a waste of time as a man. Men don't waste their days posting articles online about the dynamics of relationships and attachment styles, you know why? We are actually busy out here WORKING. We don't have time to flood the internet with 1st world complaints and project our gender ideals …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:04 PM
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There are men who desire children but they are in the miniority. I don't know what young single dudes you know are having baby fever but I know many young women who do. Men have a biological imperative to have sex.. not conceive and raise children. Yes some men want children, love children, when they are ready to settle down (30's) but it's not a goal of dating. Men aren't actively 'trying' to have children in their 20's, whereas women are. Your studies are also garbage. You know how I know? "Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:02 AM
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So you bought all those things for him? Or are you just taking credit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:44 PM
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"No one is trivializing men's experience. But when you try to assign a specific premise to an entire gender you will be proven wrong." But that's exactly what you are doing. It's one thing to say both genders benefit from marriage but you ARE saying men benefit more. From a man's perspective that is laughable when the entire law & social system is tilted to woman's favor, to serve her biological imperatives. Women desire monogamy more than men. Women desire children more than men, and generally …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:40 PM
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Great men do exist but they didn't start that way. Men also respect other great men. There's not many great "boys" throughout the annals of history. Boys (13-23) have no accomplishments of their own and a long way to go before they realize their own manhoods and prove themselves to the world. Boys don't really become MEN until they have the responsibility of others in their charge/care like a family. Responsibility & sacrifice maketh the man..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:57 AM
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Could you not argue the same thing for standard vanilla sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:36 AM
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Pretty much. Testosterone creates 'spontaneous desire' for sex and women's T-levels literally drop off and die at around 26YR or child birth. Whichever comes first. Birth control & anti-depressents and a general 'princess' mindset about sex all compound this issue and make it worse. It creates a scenario where women generally only have sex according to their monthly ovulation schedule (meaning once or twice a month) whereas men will have sex everyday rain, snow or shine. If you do the math divis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:21 AM
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Maybe monogamy is on it's death bed? Maybe polygamy will become more common in the future? When the alternative is slave your life away for half of your money, savings, time to be taken away deciding to live solitary and/or selfish lifestyle of perpetually 'dating' younger women who want to prove their value to you seems more dignified. America seems to be going through it's own version of China's lying flat movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:20 AM
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Aren't lesbians (not bi-sexual, trans, etc) like a very small subset of the female population? Less than 5%? I think your argument about range holds true even with 5% but it's not based on overwhelming numbers. Wouldn't the evolutionary "gain" be having offspring with multiple partners (spreading your genetic material) so there would be no evolutionary gain for a woman who had children with one mate to continue having offspring with him. It would make more evolutionary sense to have chilren with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:17 AM
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She's a man, baby. Oh yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:20 PM
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The content of woman's "character" isn't always that great. Not everyone is Mother Teresa. You ladies be giving yourself more credit than you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:11 PM
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You are basically advocating the 'Lying Flat' movement in China. Gather round men, let us live like a drunken Diogenes in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:20 AM
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Hard no. Big red flag. Why pay hundreds, thousands of dollars for her attention/time when random dudes can pay $19.99 to see her butthole?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:31 PM
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I think there is some truth to what you say but you could probably say the same of women in certain context. A lot of men are intimacy starved. For some men it can psychologically linked to validation, acceptance, kinks. Men can masturbate and climax easier than women but sex is generally just better with another partner. Men just like women are multi dimensional beings. We can also want relationships, companionship, families, love, fantasies, etc. Women are generally more adverse to sex because…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:22 PM
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I see most RP push "low body count" women as being high value, not necessarily virgins. Whether you want to call it a "wall" or not there is a biological/societal cut off in your dating market value with age. That's reality. Young women don't want 50+ year old men, they want someone contemporary to their age. Low body count men don't want to end up with high body count women that suddenly are no longer interested in sex once NRE wears off but that was never an issue when she was with the past 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:42 AM
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Our hormones are different. Men have way more testosterone and run out of it slower than women (40's, 50's) Women's testosterone essentially nose dives after 26+ years old or the birth of a child. Our testosterone is what leads to be spontaneously 'horny' all the time. If you satisfy the desire of being horny via masturbation/orgasm your brain gets a dopamine hit- if you do it all the time your brain is hooked like an addict. If you don't get your fix it's all you can think about throughout the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:28 AM
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I have no issue with homosexuality but I'm not very trans supportive. I believe in traditional gender roles & biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:02 PM
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It's not for the weak of heart that's for sure. My wife has plenty of leisure time although she would have to be under threat of death to admit it. I think the obivious answer is because people (usually women) want children and children don't look after themselves and are expensive? It's not cheap removing 1 income from a household for several years on end. You just can't do it alone. The reality is STAHP is BETTER than being a working parent even if the STAHP never wants to admit this. Numerous…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:50 PM
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SAHM moms DO complain about doing the majority of the housework, just google or search reddit for the numerous articles and threads where SAHM think their husbands should do even more around the house. When you search for articles of the opposite where men think their wife should be better or do more it's basically they always have to help or pick up the slack in someway. My own wife complains about SAHM and I already help with 50% of everything and I work from home AND our house is a disaster e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:45 AM
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I like to think I like and respect my partner. She's my best friend. I don't ALWAYS like & respect her as much as I should, but I recognize that and make a cognizant effort to try to be better. She doesn't always like or respect me either. Human beings are complex and relationships infinitely more so. People think of things as being 'static' or always the same but a lot of things, experiences, feelings, are conditional and change whether we like to admit them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:35 AM
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Human beings would essentially separate into three distinct groups on a vinn diagram: Traditional Humanists (More likely to have cultural & religious reasons for staying traditional) Transhumanists (People who embrace both genetic & technological manipulation into their bodies, also likely to have new religions and cultures created) Option 3) People who do a bit of both. A mix and overlap of both. Give or take a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:25 AM
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If they're trying they ain't succeeding... by your own example the profiles are fake and logic would dictate if THOSE men were truly happy in their marriages they wouldn't be seeking sex elsewhere. Their marriages are legal/emotion obligations. Women also get 'bored' in committed relationships faster than men do. Initiate divorces more than men and usually benefit financially from the divorce. There is also ancedotal evidence of women NOT attracted to their long term SO's getting jealous of othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:20 AM
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And this is exactly why modern women have a way higher body count proportionally to men on average. Yes there are outliers and exceptions.. but generally speaking.. it's just a numbers game and the numbers are tilted in their favor. What I find ironic is many of these "hoe phase" women underreport and lie about the number of Chads they have been with and then settle down into a "dead bedroom" phase with Brad. They don't want to scare Brad off. She has all her fun riding the carousel and now she …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:44 PM
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I don't know if I'd advocate cohabitating personally (I have 2 young daughters) and I'm not judging because my wife and I did cohabitate first but I feel women & men (especially women) give up a little bit of their freedom and negotiating power by cohabitating. It can cloud your thinking, a lot of people go straight from cohabitating to marriage because it feels like "the next natural progression" of a relationship and haven't sat back and objectively looked at their relationship. It's often har…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:43 AM
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Sure can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:15 PM
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I would agree there is a reasonable decline in frequency is a common thing for most normal and well adjusted relationships and should be expected unfortunately I don't think enough men are cognizant or educated of the realities of this going into a committed relationship, at least I wasn't. Nor do we get to define what reasonable is or how quickly that "reasonable" decline hits. For a lot of men the whole allure of a committed monogamous relationship like marriage is supposed to mean 'more sex' …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:03 PM
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The drop in libido is critical, you are kind of missing the point as illustrated by your POV. And who determines "reasonable"? The man or woman? It's usually reasonable by most women's standards at that point but unreasonable by many men's standards there just isn't anything they can DO about it. Women usually control when sex is going to happen but it's not just frequency in sex that matters but also quality as well. If BOTH are starting to decline in a relationship then it's a double whammy fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:10 PM
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"If all he wants is sex, he’s not a “suitor”, he’s looking for a quick bang." I think you're projecting a bit. I can't speak to your experiences. I'm not out here advocating one night stands, again, you ladies are the determining factor whether sex actually happens. I wouldn't say that sex is what 'ALL' men want and the only thing, but it is a motivating factor and natural progression of most relationships to lead to sex as it for most long term relationships to lead to marriage and/or children.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:12 PM
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Well I'm sorry to hear that. I do wish you better luck in your pursuit. Don't give up!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:42 PM
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I'm not saying you're wrong about anything you are saying I just think the dynamic is a bit different for genders; your average woman gets more to choose from than your average man and she gets more out of that process (emotionally, self-esteem boost) than a man does who's getting virtually no matches/suitors and he has to be pretty rejection adverse because a lot of women will not be interested in him so whereas a woman may be dissapointed with the quality of matches she has a great number of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:36 PM
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What are you on about? Nobody is calling anyone a slut or a whore. I'm not mad about anything just pointing out men/women have different mating strategies and want different things from a relationship. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes they don't. I never said the ego boost comes from sex. I said the ego boost comes from being "desired" or "pursued" by numerous potential suitors. If you are having orgasm-less sex than please demand better or raise your standards for yourself but please also know…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:22 PM
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I'm not on dating websites/apps but yes women do get these little dopamine hits and ego boosts everytime they get attention there or in IRL. Not sure what people are so mad about, i'm not telling lies over here. If you are upset with the 'quality' of men you get attention from well that's on you. Raise your own SMV. Get off that specific dating site or raise your standards, swipe right or whatever the kids say. Society has made it that easy for women to 'choose'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:11 PM
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You ladies decide whether that sex happens. And what are women looking for? Underneath all the layers of makeup most women are looking for emotional & financial security, stability & support. Translation = money/time/effort. You think all men want to be reduced to is emotional "fluffers" that are basically disposable man servants who work to provide for you and your offspring by meeting your checklist for happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:11 PM
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If you just want to argue "bad" things that happen to women both sexes can do this. Ladies literally WANT this attention. It's not being forced on them, they can opt out at any time and have more agency than at any point in history. Men have also been treated like garbage by society and objectified, just in different ways. Not for our sexuality but for our economic output, our literal bodies & time. A woman from lower standing could still "marry up" just based on her sexuality but it was extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:03 PM
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No there is not. You cannot just take all demographics and lump them together, that's not how statistics work, that's how averages work. China /India and many other countries have skewed demographics and there are more men than there are women in society. Today's numbers in America show that average women have sexual encounters almost twice and triple the levels of the average American man and this is AFTER we know women are lying about their N counts & underreporting what they believe constitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:05 PM
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But at least you ladies get the ego boost from being sought after & pursued, and don't tell me that's not a thing because it absolutely is. Some women are just happy with the emotional gratification of being wanted and looked at. It gets just as lonely always "pursuing" and trying to prove your 'value' to opposite sex (women) as well, except without all the emotional gratification & attention you ladies can get with near endless options. As man (or low SMV) you have to be used to pretty much con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:49 PM
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I have personally in all my years as a 35 year old white man in the United States exposed to numerous locker room "talks" have never, not once, ever, heard a man say he wants a "virgin" or desired a virgin or was turned on by virgins. You ladies are creating that weird narrative in your own heads. Do you see a "virgin" tab in pornhub categories? Got everything in there BUT virgin sex. It's not that men want virgins, it's that men don't want to settle down with women with a higher or disproportia…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:14 PM
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"But everyone has a story and has an experience. A number of sexual partners cannot predict nor can it confirm character, value, or morals." Most of everything you said I agree with but I disagree 100% with this as a man. If a woman had a body count higher than 10 (this includes oral & handsies) in my early twenties I would be worried.. and some people get into the 40's or 50's (and higher) by the time they are in their late 20's or or early 30's that basically means you averaged 6-7 bodies a ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:16 AM
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Yeah I'd probably agree but i'd also counter by saying that "peak" doesn't last long (16-26) that's 10 years, 20 for highest SMV (26-36) women - whereas a man's can be longer (26-56) 30 years. You ladies will always be of greater value (compared with a man) but you are a depreciate faster. Additionally, if a man is on his 2nd marriage and/or life committment he's probably 'choosing' a lot smarter the 2nd time around because he's now aware of said game being played and understands sexual interdyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:16 PM
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That's like saying.. why 'blame men' for suddenly realizing their own value in their later twenties, thirties after years of systematically being undervalued by the opposite sex most of their lives and in their youth (and sometimes undervalued by their own spouse) and then when finally 'having enough' with the situation are demanding better and wanting to find a younger and more sexually active woman/wife. That's why women leverage marriage/law when they can't 'weaponize' sex anymore. Women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:51 PM
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There's a lot of men out there who feel they are the ones taking care of their wives after marriage. Bait and switch. Not every woman out there fully embraces their gender role, duties, nor are they all good at it. A lot of men actually do really well on our own independently (we are usually raised to be independent, not codependent) so marriage & family is more stressful for men, not less so. My house would certainly be cleaner, i'd have more money, freedom, time. Women see just as much "utilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:29 AM
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