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Usually when you do things like this, you have to assume that probably only 20% of guys are going to make it. The rest gets hung up on the jargon. The majority of the TRP sub are just plain autistic guys trying to figure out if it’s the left foot first or the right foot first, because apparently you can’t walk when you put both feet forward, but then they argue how far the right foot should go, and they won’t make it. You have to have seen it, but you don’t need to look far because fresh and fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:07 AM
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Dude, seriously? I don’t think this place here isn’t for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:42 PM
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If the guy got lazy and added some weight, his behaviors made him basically for granted, mix in a woman's aversion to take blame and dancing around the fact she isn’t attracted to him anymore, that’s one way you get a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:52 PM
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No, you simply don’t know it differently, you defend your own ego investment and that’s ok, also don’t be a red pill evangelist who needs to save ppl in the "matrix" how do you think did they unplugged neo? He was looking for the answers and he found the answers. Not everyone can be like neo, all you can be is like someone who cheerleads a blue pill man towards past TRP. You can only tell him that he might avoid fresh and fit and send him straight to the TRP sidebar and lead his anger towards pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:43 PM
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Most of them are plane autistic, i'm not gonna lie. It’s all about if he can make it past the anger stage and fix what is wrong with him and enjoy better results. Also for you i suggest not consuming any content that is not designed for you. Do not try to understand or rationalize what guys going trough TRP it’s most often just a loss of an illusion and overcome your own issues that stopped you from being successful in dating. It’s not meant for everyone. The guys who are past TRP aren’t the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:17 PM
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Yea, this happens, it happens a lot, and here’s one approach that gives you a little bit less headache. You don’t have assumed ownership over your girlfriend, that commitment isn’t a guarantee for fidelity. So, since there’s no ownership and nothing that is stopping her from exploring all flavors of intimacy with anyone at any time, why invest so much into a relationship. She’s not yours, it’s just your turn. It means to temper your expectations and emotions, how can you get possibly mad about a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:49 PM
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Honestly, Like hypergamy is nothing else than monogamy. She’s absolutely loyal to one man at a time, until she decides otherwise. There’s reason’s. Maybe she’s cluster b, and that means she falls in love with you.. fast. And falls out of love also.. fast. she’s the one who decides if a relationship is happening or not. You’re the one who decides to be as top tier as you want to be. It needs boundaries and the ability to say no and not get winded up in emotional stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:38 PM
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Yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:40 PM
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Realize this. Common TRP gets a lotta things wrong. Most men are actually nice guys, but the term is a bit misleading tbh, codependent would be a better term to describe the guy you would call a beta, being beta isn’t necessarily a bad thing, actual beta qualities are necessary to maintin a long term relationship. You hear the MRA's often say things like, "we have less male role models, since most male teachers have been pushed out of the school system." And.. they’re right, however you can’t ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:02 PM
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Most men have nice guy behaviors that sabotage or enable a dysfunctional relationship dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:25 AM
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Covert Contracts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:37 AM
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Let’s say. She definitely would be completely freely living out all the fantasies she has and She might even give a chad type of man her best sexual intimacy. That’s a hard pill to swallow but if you for any length of time had a chad phase you can relate. It’s not a bug it’s a feature, and accepting these thing don’t completely shut you out of the dating market. For a guy like your friend however, he already might have giving away the hint that he is more the relationship guy, she’s not very att…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:53 AM
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What if the blue pill is just our own male protective instinct to secure the female of the species? What if that program is still running in our background and we have no clue about it, put a few terrible parenting strategies into the mix and you have yourself a man who is very emotional and highly sensitive, because he adopted the same behaviors and coping mechanisms his mother had, and the fear of loss made him a codependent which is the result of that bad parenting. However you can’t obsess a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:00 AM
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Let’s say, a woman avoids her siblings and father during high fertility periods. During this time she’s attracted to.. attractive men, or her husband or her partner in that regards. If she doesn’t sees him as her best possible option or the guy becomes a little bit too comfortable with her, she still wants go out or she avoids her partner in that period as well because hes controlling or jealous attide could come between her and and her body wanting to go let things happen with an attractive man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:14 PM
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TRP Mainstream is essentially the sandbox for all the cluess guys, literally these men have become in love with the jargon without ever experience or doing this stuff actually in their lives. While the real stuff gets done more quietly, probably inaccessible for someone who’s following the mainstream RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:57 PM
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A man with money is wanted. But a guy who is experienced is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:53 PM
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They probably have an easier time to replace the girl when she pulls some nonsense or starts becoming a nuisance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:44 PM
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Op Talked about narcissism, dwindled down into a narcissistic spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:19 PM
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Why do you need others to tell you what to think?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:40 PM
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Does she add value to my life? A girl with no talent sitting at home all day, does nothing valuebale and possibly complains a lot. Well, there’s probably better options then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:30 PM
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Doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:25 AM
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You can always go with the flow, you can’t change the way how dating is working but you can change your own approach to it. Have casual relationships and don’t get too attached, relationships are temporary any ways, so why over invested. At least in your 20's that is how it’s going to be anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:26 AM
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For example, being pleasant and can cook a meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:04 AM
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Awesome, this post puts beautiful women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:56 AM
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You have to fake it, and you have to honestly shut up about it or down play it. Because women just have infinite amount of experience with guys that you will ever have with with women. They saw all attitudes of guys and your attitude has to be.. attractive. Not giving an F, patience and despite you’re a virgin at least signaling that you know what you’re doing. At least be open to the idea of having a ONS or casual relationships, don’t fall in love right away, it only makes you needy, that means…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:36 AM
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You got it all wrong man. Hypergamy is monogamy, but it’s so that she’s absolutely loyal to one man at a time, until she decides not to be anymore. It’s defined for her what is the best option and not what you would define. The thing with hypergamy is, you have to be steady and constantly on your game when in an ltr. Be honest, enforce boundaries, but ultimately you can’t really decide if she satys forever with you, but having one foot out the door and having other options seems to be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:02 AM
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Yea, understandable. I kinda moved on from all those things and there’s no pills anymore, it just so happened that blue is my favorite color of crayons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:56 PM
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You, made it about yourself, so we roll with that. Butthurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:46 PM
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Eh, i make short jump. I guess solutions are probably infuriating to someone who has the keys to his own prison. You made it about you, and we roll with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:42 PM
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Yea, it’s not that you can learn to be assertive, shed all nice guy behaviors, and work out and you move a bit closer to the things you want, no, i'm not going to convince guys like you. It’s ok then, not everyone is born to make it, and TRP isn’t there to recruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:19 PM
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It is. Let’s say working out is a good vent for being in the anger phase and to keep your hormones on a healthy amount in check. Then, from TRP comes the emotional way of thinking, to a rational way of thinking. Because, the way you act changes the way you think about yourself and the world, shame and guilt no longer dictate your actions, and you tend to get better outcomes. Or you inject T and you want to screw everything and you won’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:20 PM
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Cool story bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:11 PM
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Yea, you’d be surprised that testosterone has a muting effect on feelings. You just don’t bother so much, you also won’t bother so much when dealing with rejection, or a girl acts a bit bratty, because girls game is literally bratty behavior. Eh, i moved on from RP, so i guess that makes me BP again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:56 PM
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So did you just got hung up on the bloopie, and based on that it has to be adversarial, ignoring basically what is was trying to say. If you’re RP then you don’t get it yet. Read the sidebar one more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:26 PM
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So, what is stopping men from becoming more masculine? It’s codependency, the need to please other people. Even when you make an absolute solid point, the codependent guy takes it and puts it all out trough his codependent behaviors. Mothers aren’t always correct when raising kids, they use lazy parenting strategies to get the kids to do what they want them to do, via threatening to leave, withholding affection, venting about father and emotional inconsistency and so on. Later the in school the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:11 PM
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Women have already things happeningto them in the dating market, while most men have to make it happen for them and most men aren’t necessarily calibrated or understand their own value and investment from others, they just… give, give in the hopes of being loved and not rejected. This puts the man into a position of necessity, which lets him act in all unattractive manners. He gets into a relationship with the first girl that kinda likes this. If that’s a good or a bad sign, i don’t judge, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:18 PM
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It’s optional, especially when the main narrative is "nobody can tell me what to do." Sure thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:33 PM
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Eh, that’s probably just a flex to other girls on how pretty they are and never get approached. "I'm not like the other girl" but globalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:19 AM
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This post makes honestly.. no sense. Nobody in their 20's cares about this tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:45 AM
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They’re targeted by the feds, so, there’s your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:04 AM
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The manosphere probably gets nothing right, because they only talk and have those conventions to monetize clueless guys, but they actually do nothing. Because the manosphere, andrew tate, fresh & fit? They are actually there to sandbox the retards in their own bubble. Keeps TRP safe from them and the guys there can do their thing and stay focused on the praxeology and not banning r-tards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:51 AM
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Unfortunately you don’t have control over women, plus that’s like a covert contract here. "If women do what i want, i would have a problem free life." There’s a few ways to counteract this. Workout, workout heavy that your nervous system is under tremendous stress. Learn Game, like in that case amused mastery is your friend here. Become the judge of your own actions, and adress your nice guy behaviors. Sounds scary for ppd guys, because that would mean there’s a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:36 AM
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They abuse him because he has no frame
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:21 AM
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Most girls can be very attractive in their 30's. If she takes care, stays away from ssri's and alcohol, being pleasant non-combative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:50 PM
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Yea, someone else shared it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:44 PM
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Because it’s a covert contract and you’re using ppl as extension of your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:18 PM
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If he truly wanted a healthy relationship he could also just find a girl who truly wants to have his values too and does also other things than just offering her body. But nope, the first girl who shows appreciation for his validation seeking behavior is the girl he immediately decides to be in a long term relationship and deals with the problems later on, when he can’t exit the relationship anymore because he is emotionally hooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:36 PM
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Tell a guy to get out of his comfort zone and talk to ppl is the biggest challenge here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:08 PM
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Dating like chad would, or is probably a good thing for most guys. Because rather to shape themselves after the only one girl who shows them interest, they can find a girl who’s genuinely want to be with them. And move on from other girls who crosses their boundaries. But also chad has the same problems like non-chad would have in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:14 PM
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Eh, i'm part of the world, but i care about my own happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:31 AM
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Oh yea, the world absolutely gets drown in hate, and that’s not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:23 AM
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Damn sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:32 AM
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How did you figure it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:11 AM
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You don’t have to do anything, you can just go mgtow and you have a problem free life, i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:05 AM
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Look it that way. Women always take the side of women, and men usually take the side of women. Some Men unfortunately experience some stuff that isn’t always fair towards them, and they can’t go anywhere to vent their frustrations. They don’t really hate, they just vent, same as you i assume. I forgot to mention that there’s also rage bait for clout, so you have to be very careful when hearing some messages and who exactly wants clicks from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:17 AM
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Nobody is actually honest with women, so if someone actually is, it might get interpreted as hating. Happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:02 AM
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It stands for Madonna-Hure complex. We mean the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:05 PM
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No i mean M/H
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:02 PM
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Equal relationships are possible, it’s called platonic friendships, roomates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:31 PM
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M/H complex much?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:27 PM
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Yea, but what if you’re the kinda guy that is wanted, and not the provider that is needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:09 AM
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What if, what if our instincts from the caveman days are still running their protocol in the background of our brains and we are just hardwired to protect women at all costs. What if this is the cause for all the double standards you’re seeing. After all, sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. Just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:21 AM
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Problem is, it’s still based of the concepts who the smaller group came up with trough a Practical approach, and exchanging field reports. while the so called "manosphere" just talks and appeals to a guy’s emotions and ego to purse his covert contracts. Apparently still not understanding what women say and do are different things. Thanks for being the example of my point i guess, i didn’t asked for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:11 AM
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The "manosphere" is technically not a real thing. It’s a group of men who don’t understand the things they’re talking about and shape them after their fantasy to make an enemy of the "evil" women who did them so wrong. They take all ideas from the group that is concerned about to change things for them without willing to gain knowledge about these things. I'm still not sure if myron gains came to existence to confuse men and keep the smaller group small and high quality, so the guys who are hope…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:54 AM
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Depends what sources of red pill information you get, and it depends on what worldview you have. Many surface level red pill guys are treating it as an ideology and almost religiously try to red pill their friends. Which is retarded as fuck. Like, if someone decides to go rp then he does it by his own terms and if he’s a retard and lashes out, it’s definitely not meant to be. For some having a certain set of boundaries and having the necessary relationship and dating skills to thrive in their li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:54 PM
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Alright there’s a lotta ego defense here. You’re probably red pilled, but are you really though? Aren’t you just in a stage of denial, and can’t find an exit. Like, if you have this strong aversion to game, and how game works in dating and relationships, then red pill is game. The PUA's sure got handed dynamite and ended up like neil strauß, but RP is essentially the evolution of game. So, what do you want out of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:02 PM
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So, you’re not also inable to extract game from the PUAS and look for reasons not to do anything and blame everyone else? Yea, it’s gotta be looks alone. Do you know what a buffer is? It’s exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:45 PM
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Ah, so we have the problem then. You basically use Red Pill as an identity to justify your lack of efforts, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:40 PM
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You think a bit too far into the extremes, but i see why you would. It’s the same dysfunctional relationship cycle they enabled at home, will still exist with a woman from a different country. Yet, their own ego investment prevents them from seeing their obvious faults. It’s not always the women’s fault it’s often the guys fault for not having boundaries and being absolutely oblivious when it comes to decisions and relationships goals. Sometimes i understand why women resent them. Career women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:07 PM
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Here’s the thing about passport bros. Their frame is shit, and that means they will enable the same dysfunctional nice guy cycle in a feminine submissive girl from whatever country is hip atm. Most often these women grow up amongst very masculine and strong guys who don’t tolerate any bs, and they get with a guy with 0 boundaries, codependency complete power bottom and then wonder, why don’t these women don’t respect me. It’s laughable but each to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:38 PM
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Did you tried moving out of your parents basement and learn game? I heard that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:33 PM
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So, is the guy blue pill but just angry, or do most red pill guys get it all wrong and are actually slaves to the red pill jargon without wanting to understand what those things actually mean. You hear them saying stuff like "she’s not yours it’s just your turn bro." But present him how this looks like and he lashes out on "typical western culture." lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:04 PM
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You just adapt to the situation, rather to bend the world to your will and traditional values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:41 AM
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There’s only positive, ppl don’t play by your rules you know. Do you think going back to your traditional days would make anything differently, when it’s trads who created the blue pill? Think again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:35 AM
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You casually date girls and if one convinces you that its a good idea to have an ltr with her, you can give it a try. And in case she crosses a boundary you can devote her again to casual gf. I only see positive things about the dating market tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:28 AM
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You date multiple girls casually then, and eventually one will probably try to keep you. You just gow with the flow. Hence why you need to manage them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:20 AM
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Yea, hence why you want to manage your girlfriends in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:12 AM
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That means she’s still doing or is planning to do it, or she does it while in a relationship. But she just felt bad in the moment so she had to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:49 AM
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Honestly, most of you guys get TRP so wrong that it’s noticeable that you’re doing TRP. TRP is like make up, even if she knows you’re doing it, it’s still not noticeable and it works regardless. If you still think about what women think about you and the TRP, then you’re still processing the anger in the wrong ways. The modern dating dynamics are horrible? Well, technically you can go with the flow and experience multiple different women and so on, and maybe you actually find one who has good va…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:14 PM
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Feminism is basically weaponizing the male protective instinct. It’s pretty simple, you just keep casually dating until a girl actually puts something else out than just her body. You’re just adapted to the modern dating landscape. So, girls who only lead with sex, only get sex. That way you kinda have your options open in case she crosses a boundary, starts preparing to exit the relationship and you’ll just be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:06 PM
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As a blue pill, you probably might want to give up, there’s nothing you can do. You decided that being blue pill is your way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:04 AM
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Until they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:56 PM
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Girls love sex, Girls even go to a bar with the understanding that they have a ONS in the same night. Girls love it also to let others think that they don’t love these things. Guys are just clueless and don’t even understand when a girl gives them signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:53 PM
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