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Seemed pretty equal to me. I excluded same gender, the airplane parody and the amateur joke videos at the end.
/r/MensRights14/09/16 09:04 PM
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Before most here were born..... something feminists have to realise. Btw, half of those clips seemed like jokes, but for the other half, I'd really like to know if it was bidirectional slapping = ok, or was it really the full opposite of what it has been since the 90s, and when it changed (was there a bidirectional period before it fully flipped etc.). It's definetely a big problem that male --> female behaviour which is considered domestic violence isn't considered domestic violence in reverse.
/r/MensRights14/09/16 08:39 PM
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Yet it also scored 5th place in the highly misandric "global gender gap report" rankings, higher than any of the countries you listed. Ireland has changed massively since the 90s (Not that traditionalism can't be every bit as misandric as feminism), a younger population and the child abuse scandals destroying the political clout of the majority church will do that.
/r/MensRights14/09/16 07:02 PM
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Nope. Ireland is plenty misandric. Traditionalism can be every bit as misandric as feminism. Fathers' rights here can be very bad. Abortion is a philosophical quagmire. The fact that it's a cheap, quick plane/boat ride away has lead to a NIMBY handwashing of an uncomfortable issue. I guess you're lucky, personally my newsfeed is filled with endless feminist drivel (guess that's what you get for going to trinity). Also tons of Irish newsertainment sites (such as joe.ie) routinely post feminist "p…
/r/MensRights14/09/16 07:01 PM
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There's a "99% of rapists are men" statistic that the most misandric feminists are fond of (the sort who say "we need to end male violence" instead of "we need to end violence"), in the grand scheme of demonising men, it's too important to lose... sometimes you need to lie and exaggerate to get people "woke".
/r/MensRights08/09/16 05:03 AM
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Somehow I don't think that the purpose of ERA was to advance equality for men. It wasn't. And as soon as it was realised that men would be the almost sole benefactors of it, public opinion went against it. Surely this wasn’t the only reason it wasn't passed. It was. Phyllis Schlafly's campaign was literally called Stop Taking Our Priveleges (referring to explicit legislative pro-female/anti-male sexism). “The ERA's defeat seriously damaged the women's movement, destroying its momentum and its po…
/r/MensRights07/09/16 08:48 PM
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So it's all about women? The ERA would have done a huge amount to advance equality for men, the mrm probably wouldn't even exist like it does now if it had been passed. All it would have given women is the right to go topless. It's telling that the only reason it wasn't passed was that despite being in favour of equality for women, the American public still wasn't in favour of equality for men. The success of Stop Taking Our Priveleges (following the huge success of the women's liberation campai…
/r/MensRights07/09/16 03:34 PM
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The definition of "nigger" is "a contemptuous term for a black person.". I can tell you from experience that people DO stick to this definition. Was this always the dictionary definition of "nigger", or did it change? Do dictionaries document rather than prescribe word usage (or some mix of the two)? That would certainly be inconvenient for feminists who use the "dictionary argument". How is "equality of the sexes" inherently sexist? Because it helps women? That makes you sexist, not the word. H…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 07:48 PM
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Word choices can be very political. Feminists of all people should know that. Respect for that is why most people (to use an extreme example) don't go around calling black people niggers. To use an inherently sexist, female-superiority sounding word to somehow mean "equality for both sexes" is so grossly counter-intuitive it literally makes zero logical sense. Unless there is some extra reason for it's choice, something completely aside from a belief in gender equality. Therefore it is precisely…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 06:35 PM
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Then you must be one of those fringe feminists who are completely apart from the academic, activist, policy-influencing core. Under feminist theory, sexism/gender norms are declared to be a priori male privileging and female disprivileging. This is treated as an unquestionable self-evident truth (indeed to question it is seen by many to be in itself an act of misogyny). Therefore any male disadvantage will always be trivial compared to female disadvantage, which means that the fight should be fo…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 03:48 PM
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But in a really fucked up way, demonstrated how ubiquitous double-standardism was (and still is), given that it was the desire to preserve female rather than male privilege which ultimately killed the ERA.
/r/MensRights06/09/16 03:16 PM
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Well the women are wonderful effect has been known for quite some time. I'm not sure if it's so much that it's not happening, as politics getting in the way of it being more widely known. Pew and Gallup poll things in a generally unbiased manner.
/r/MensRights06/09/16 01:24 PM
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He's a member of NOMAS, the male wing of NOW. Here are their views on father's rights and domestic violence. His claims to fame are authoring "guyland", which is basically stereotype after stereotype about young men, and none of them good, essentially to dismiss any male desire for equality where sexism/gender norms traditionally favoured women as actually being men wanting to shore up a position of superiority which feminism threatens, and "masculinity as homophobia" where he asserts that the u…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 01:03 PM
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Source - You'll notice that every group surveyed viewed masculinity less positively and more negatively than femininity, which is in direct conflict with central assertions of feminist dogma.
/r/MensRights06/09/16 12:30 PM
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And guess who bears the brunt of abuse? Boys. Do you have a source on that? It would be much appreciated.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 03:17 PM
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There's a diversity of opinions here, the majority opinion can vary from thread to thread. Most ime would see sex differences (where they do exist) as being the result of overlapping averages, not absolute differences. They would also in general favour equality of opportunity rather than forced equality of outcome. A white knight is a man willing to throw men (either specifically or in general) under the bus to secure female approval.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 03:13 PM
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In France it's famously illegal. In case anyone pretends this has nothing to do with sexism, there was a case in France where two babies were accidentally switched in the hospital, the payout was in the millions.
/r/MensRights02/09/16 06:26 PM
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It has to do with the social currency female privelege still often holds out there in the wider world.
/r/MensRights30/08/16 05:01 PM
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Feels =/= reals. Saying that visual attraction = men not seeing women as people is insane. Just because a minority of men don't respect consent doesn't give free license to demonise male sexuality. Visual attraction (and yes, that includes secondary sex characteristics) is perfectly normal, natural, healthy and positive, in either sex. What women currently have is a position of sexual superiority (tied in with that is female sexuality generally being seen as being of higher value than male sexua…
/r/MensRights30/08/16 03:14 PM
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Or a lot of people say "respect" when they mean "admiration"? Courtesy is the behaviour, respect is the inner mindset which makes that behaviour genuine. I just searched "respect def" on google, it gave two definitions : a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements. due regard for the feelings, wishes, or rights of others. It must be a cultural thing, def 1 seems weird to me.
/r/MensRights24/08/16 04:43 PM
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I disagree that respect is earned. Respect should be the default. That said, the "respect women"/"stand up to men" dichotomy really does piss me off.
/r/MensRights24/08/16 01:56 PM
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Upvotes are shown as downvotes in SRS.
/r/MensRights12/08/16 02:55 PM
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So the reason there's a double standard is because there's a double standard?
/r/MensRights10/08/16 10:03 PM
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Progressives =/= liberals. How many times do Americans need this drilled into them?
/r/MensRights10/08/16 09:48 PM
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Please stop confusing genuine liberals with illiberal "progressives" - those people don't even call themselves liberal these days (just look at Hillary Clinton, she makes a deliberate effort to call herself "progressive" rather than "liberal"), it's just conservative propaganda which lumps us in together....
/r/MensRights10/08/16 09:44 PM
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I've said it on this sub tons of times, but if you want to know the truth about feminist claims of "objectification", they basically boil down to "I hold a sexist view of sex, but don't want to admit it".
/r/MensRights10/08/16 08:41 PM
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I was referring to outwardly visible statements of the idea that someone is only a sexual object. Can you give us an example? I find this idea that visual sexual attraction = not seeing a person as a person hard to get my head around...
/r/MensRights10/08/16 08:36 PM
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Well yeah, even if a woman is being predatory, she's only "punching up". /s.
/r/MensRights10/08/16 08:24 PM
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You missed a crucial point : we don't ban it. Who knows what feminists think if it's banned straight away to clean up their image? Illiberal progressives so desperately want to associate us with the pro-traditionalist "alt right" (we're non-partisan), but if you look at misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic comments here, you will find they are by and large downvoted into oblivion. Of course, this doesn't get reported back, because people want us to be the bogeyman they want us to be...
/r/MensRights10/08/16 08:12 PM
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You know what, for me it wouldn't. I mean, would you even go to a men's lounge? Why? It's not like I have a preference for having women around, I just don't care, and think that's how everyone should be. Disagree if you like, but I think formal gender segregation is a step back, a re-erecting of barriers which were broken down for a reason. People need to learn to live together. Nobody would be cool with a "whites only" lounge.
/r/MensRights09/08/16 08:01 PM
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It's cool, they'll just sit outside playing pokemon on their gameboys untill their female feminist friends come back out.
/r/MensRights09/08/16 07:54 PM
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Obama and Hillary's promotion of the wage gap myth is absolutely reprehensible, casting seeds of social corrosion and devestation into the wind without a care in the world, just to get votes. Christina Hoff Sommers calls such misleading stats "hate statistics", she's entirely right. Nothing less than a full, profuse apology is acceptable.
/r/MensRights09/08/16 07:27 PM
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To malign male objectification as condescending and unfair while embracing the objectification of women is a problem... I don't think very many people hold that double standard. it's only fair that both sexes are objectified equally. Exactly. Except for the fact that "objectification" is made up feminist sex-negativity which somehow conflates cultural acknowledgment of male heterosexual visual attraction as something normal, natural, healthy and positive with somehow not seeing women as people.
/r/MensRights08/08/16 03:53 PM
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Indian rug-burns on them as a sexual act. Have you actually tried it? Obviously gently, with a small angle whilst going up and down, nowhere near friction territory.... the added movement adds something noticeable - feelsgoodman.jpg.
/r/MensRights07/08/16 11:59 PM
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People have different views on what "equality" entails - even feminists amongst themselves do, people act like it's this magical word which will put everyone on the same page, but when you get down to the finer points there ends up very often being a huge amount of disagreement. Nonetheless, there is a level of diversity of views on this sub overall, certain threads bring out people with certain views more than others.
/r/MensRights05/08/16 04:50 PM
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Because of socialization? If you're going to attack social constructionism, at least do it properly.
/r/MensRights05/08/16 04:46 PM
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The top comment uses the word "schadenfreude" - a word which implicitly has the connotations that you know your positive feelings at the news are morally wrong. But nonetheless, I have already commented in this thread, and I do not believe that Muslim culture (or indeed any culture on the planet) is genuinely male priveleging, women have real social bargaining power and they always have had...
/r/MensRights03/08/16 06:52 PM
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Society has this judgement that men who deliberately seek out "men only" things are very likely misogynists, but somehow women who deliberately seek out "women only" things aren't misandrists. I have a strong suspicion that if you ranked women on general man-friendliness, the women who deliberately seek out "women only" things would score particularly low... But of course they're just "punching up". Escalation (rather than de-escalation) is a-ok if you're a woman!
/r/MensRights03/08/16 06:36 PM
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Did you hear this from the men or the women? Feminist mythology aside, I don't find a situation where one person is working full time + doing the "lion's share" of the housework + childcare, whilst the other does nothing, believeable - it's just far too obvious.
/r/MensRights29/07/16 09:53 AM
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Let's be honest, there is a huge problem of excessive female nudity in the mainstream media. Of course, when I say nudity, I'm including female toplessness, but not male toplessness - don't even try to say they logically should be the same, the sexism of failing to be sexist is the worst sexism there is.
/r/MensRights29/07/16 08:52 AM
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Too tired and drunk to give sources, but there is at least one relatively recent study (linked to to in this sub - if that's any help) which showed that female teachers are biased towards girls whereas male teachers are fair, interestingly iirc girls expected teachers of both sexes to be fair, whereas boys only expected male teachers to be fair - suspecting (correctly) female teachers to be biased against them, and feminists act confused how boys turn into anti-feminists.
/r/MensRights29/07/16 12:46 AM
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The entire premise of the MRM is trying to get neurotypical humans to not act like neurotypical humans. We're fighting against millions of years of evolution. Men will always be disposable, women will always be infantalized. If it can work for feminists, then why can't it work for mras? Unless you're saying it can work for neither? Even if it was true on a social scale, on a legislative and institutional scale, rational structures can be put in place to treat people more equally than if they let…
/r/MensRights14/07/16 08:50 AM
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There are still gender biases affecting both sexes, people (and the evidence I've seen implicates both sexes equally) are still biased towards men in terms of overt political leadership roles (and indeed overt competitive superiority in general). However, how important is this is in the grand scheme of things? Do people generally live to work or do they work to live (considering a married woman effectively legally owns half the household income)? Which role is actually superior (the answer is th…
/r/MensRights06/07/16 11:48 PM
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If the reason they're rejecting traditional female sexist entitlements is because they think they're fighting some fight against "internalised misogyny" rather than them acknowledging that it's wrong to expect the best of both worlds, then that's pretty useless.... Feminism (and it's deliberately one-sided, character-assassinating narrative) is very much culturally responsible for misandry and sexism against men not being properly called out on a wider level. How fully egalitarian individual fem…
/r/MensRights03/07/16 10:13 AM
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AND she doesn't have to be submissive to him at all. That died out a lot earlier than feminists pretend. A sizeable portion of housewives have wielded effective dominance in their relationships since before women got the vote.
/r/MensRights03/07/16 09:59 AM
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Remember when the justified online backlash prompted her to write an article about how hard it is to be a woman in politics?
/r/MensRights02/07/16 09:58 AM
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A lot of women secretly don't want to give up their claims of feminine value (childcare/domestic superiority etc. - even if they require extra work), they might not give him a proper chance, or do it in an implicitly controlling dominant way that has him as a helpmate rather than an actual true equal - to which a lot of men are inevitably going to drag their heels... Coupled with this is the almost complete lack of actual positive encouraging messages for men and boys in terms of this societal s…
/r/MensRights29/06/16 09:27 AM
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Generally, crying out of empathy = good, crying out of individual weakness = bad.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 10:58 AM
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Every Jezebel article important for us needs to be archived ASAP.
/r/MensRights10/06/16 07:45 PM
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Name: Camile Paglia Internet Handle: ? Reddit Profile: ? YouTube Chanel: ? Alt. Contact : https://www.facebook.com/CamillePagliaAuthor/
/r/MensRights02/06/16 08:09 PM
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Milo is a social construct.
/r/MensRights02/06/16 05:28 PM
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The keyboard is mightier than the sword...
/r/MensRights02/06/16 04:57 PM
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You have to compare like with like. Breasts shouldn't count as nudity if male toplessness doesn't.
/r/MensRights01/06/16 10:03 AM
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I was going to make a post about humanitarian feminism, but I've a lot more research to do . In general, there is some gross corruption going on : 1, 2. The pressure to come up with clear findings and ‘killer facts’ that speak to policy-makers can easily tip over into something much more questionable. I once challenged a colleague at another NGO on a ‘fact’ she was using on Bolivia. ‘Well, it’s politically true’, she replied with a grin. If you want to know the truth about food access, a female …
/r/MensRights26/05/16 01:49 PM
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If there was no feminism, then we’d still be living in a society where women are treated little better than chattel or where her consent has no meaning. WRONG. If there was no feminism, there would have been neutral unbiased "anti-sexism" instead and we'd already be living in the golden age.
/r/MensRights24/05/16 03:43 PM
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It probably depends on the region/culture. The figures I've seen indicate most women don't. That said, I have personally noticed an uptick, probably because of social media, most of these women I've known being de-convertible when you point out the sexism against men they were always on some level aware of.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 10:32 PM
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Don't. Things can change. Bans on gay marriage were overturned.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 03:27 PM
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If longer hours are on average a greater disincentive for women than men, shouldn't this if anything increase the wage gap?
/r/MensRights19/05/16 01:18 PM
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You realise that most women don't identify as feminist, right?
/r/MensRights19/05/16 10:13 AM
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Yes, that's who I'm talking about. As for your second link : Qari Yousef Ahmadi, a Taliban spokesman, denied the insurgents were involved. I mean, I'm not defending the taliban and their rigid forced gender roles, but the feminist conspiracy theory of this widespread desire to educate boys and keep girls ignorant (apart from a small portion of genuine hardcore misogynists) is not something which happens. Education for girls tends to lag behind education for boys in developing countries for pract…
/r/MensRights18/05/16 01:59 PM
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Aren't the ncfm suing? And another woman? My guess is that more people want the woman's case to be the winning case, to reduce complaints by women (who iirc on average support an equal draft (assuming there has to be a draft) less than men), and to preserve the feminist narrative of equality happening as part of a continual struggle of women against male domination, rather than both sexes having gender expectations and limitations lifted from them.
/r/MensRights18/05/16 01:38 PM
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Nope, I forget who, but it was a schoolgirl and the narrative was changed into her being assassinated for going to school, when there was more to it than that. I'm not sure what you're talking about...
/r/MensRights18/05/16 01:06 PM
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Feminist propaganda. They attacked a girl who was very prominently publically outspoken against the Taliban. The guys who attack random schoolgirls are their equivalent of Dylan Roof.
/r/MensRights18/05/16 11:49 AM
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You think women are the magically socially egalitarian sex and not socially hierarchically minded at all? I guess it's a sticking point for me because I've seen such ideas promoted in pop-science a lot - as part of a wider message of female superiority (and especially female (and feminine) moral superiority) that I've seen promoted my whole life - e.g stuff like awareness campaigns about child abuse always having a male abuser etc. Or that he would be anywhere near on board with a moral take dow…
/r/MensRights18/05/16 10:06 AM
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My real problem is that "women behaving badly" posts (which is how these posts come across to fence-sitting outsiders) make us come across as misogynists - our reputation isn't great as it is. Yes, there are people out there who think that women don't do these things, but I think we've beaten that drum to death - statistics can show it without individual articles. There's plenty of discussion of the sentencing gap here without these sorts of posts imo.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 08:29 PM
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From a brief skimming of the book : pg. 634 social dominance is a guy thing . Sexism ultimately arises from the genetic incentive of men to control the behaviour, especially the sexual behaviour, of women. . Would the world be more peaceful if women were in charge? The question is just as interesting if the tense and mood are changed. Has the world become more peaceful because women are even more in charge? And will the world become more peaceful when women are even more in charge? The answer to…
/r/MensRights17/05/16 05:51 PM
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Pinker is no men's rights hero though, in "The Better Angels of our Nature" he outright claims women/femininity to be morally superior to men/masculinity, positing "feminisation" as a positive moral force.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 04:01 PM
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Anecdotal evidence of this change is meaningless, we need to focus on statistical evidence if we want a good argument.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:28 PM
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Richard Feynman was turned away from Columbia University because of their Jewish quota.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:12 PM
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Not sure what you mean by this. The numbers are fully represented in the charts (I double checked). It could be just the layout of the charts (perhaps more traditional pie charts would be better). But I tried some basic messing around in paint.net and it still doesn't look right to me : https://imgur.com/aNJm0mr Pew puts female happiness as higher in the US.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 10:02 AM
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There's a few things which need to be borne in mind : *Studies on this are rare *Joint legal custody and joint physical custody are not the same thing *Even joint physical custody does not mean 50/50 parenting time *Some studies might show anomalous results due to choosing judges/states where an extra effort to counter the bias (and theoretically perhaps even over-correct) is present. *People bargain in the shadow of the law, most divorces don't reach the courts *Both sexes are roughly likely to…
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:35 PM
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That's probably what most people here want, they just can't and won't do it under the banner of feminism - for very understandable reasons.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:25 PM
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Barack Obama in a speech said "they [meaning girls] can do everything the boys can do, and do it better, and do it in heels". Steven Pinker openly endorses ideas of female/feminine moral superiority - he declares "feminisation" as a major force leading to a better world. He says the wild west was tamed when more women came in because of this morally superior feminine presence, rather than it being because the gender ratio stopped being so skewed leading to inter-male competition not being as har…
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:01 PM
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Joint physical custody doesn't mean 50/50 shared parenting time - some courts (and some states) might be much more egalitarian about this than others. Gender biases are generally believed by both sexes, any genuine egalitarian should see men who believe that women are better caregivers as having internalised misandry just as much as they see a woman who believes men are better business/political leaders as having internalised misogyny. It's the same sort of criticism MRAs level at the "wage gap"…
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:04 AM
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The charts don't seem to be in line with the figures, which makes things look not as bad as they are. I think quality of life (global and domestic) and happiness (global and domestic) should be included aswell. Beside 3rd level enrollment there should be "gendered grants" aswell. Don't have time to dig up sources, sorry. Drug/alcohol addiction could be another one... Also likelihood homeless men dying on the streets vs homeless women. Realsexism.com is a good starting source.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 09:47 AM
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The right to be topless in public is the only right men have that women don't that I can think of.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 10:05 PM
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In case it wasn't clear, she's talking about an incision which is the mildest form of fgm (wikipedia calls it "symbolic circumcision"). FGM gets a lot worse...
/r/MensRights10/05/16 06:49 PM
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Are you talking about sexual economics? Abstract Full paper - pdf download See also : cultural suppression of female sexuality
/r/MensRights10/05/16 11:24 AM
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Because the results it gives are often seen as validating or invalidating different moral/political views.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 10:53 AM
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Because of all fields it's perhaps the most vulnerable to interference from political views.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 07:20 AM
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It's the "patriarchy assumption". The evidence doesn't need to be looked at, a male advantage can be automatically assumed.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 07:14 AM
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The actual article was nowhere near as bad as the title. It's not so insane to suggest that there is some lingering low level of a pro-male bias in the workplace (which is not to validate feminism, unless you're the sort of person who lives to work rather than works to live), but saying it's a "bro problem" is to shame male culture and masculinity in general for a much broader and much more bidirectional problem...
/r/MensRights05/05/16 03:37 PM
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Yep, but if the ad was about sexual abuse specifically, then that it is afaik mostly committed by men. It's still sexist either way.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 08:28 AM
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If their impression is that female homosexuality is masculine, whereas male homosexuality is feminine, then lesbians are seen as voluntarily giving up an inherent value claim (presumably for increased competitive respect) - which is looked down upon as a break in gender norms, but is not processed as being as bad as gay men who by being feminine are trying to claim inherent value which as men they are not entitled to. If that cultural stereotype doesn't exist, and it's purely about the sexual be…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 08:18 AM
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We all know that women and girls commit violence, murder and sexual assault against men and boys, do we really have to post individual cases (rather than statistics) unless it's a story about an insanely low sentence?
/r/MensRights02/05/16 08:52 PM
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Same sex marriages in the UK are 55% female and 45% male, there are also ~ two gay men for every lesbian, which means a higher portion of the lesbian population are marrying, which may be relevant.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 08:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is a joke.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 06:44 PM
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Objectification is code for "I hold a sexist view of sex but don't want to admit it". The logic is that sex without strong closeness/investment/commitment is inherantly dominant for the man and inherantly submissive for the woman - a gain for him and a loss for her. Behaviour which can even vaguely be taken to hint at this is therefore offensive to women who secretly hold this idea.
/r/MensRights25/04/16 06:17 PM
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Ireland here, no paywall :\ ....
/r/MensRights21/04/16 10:06 AM
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Women are very welcome here. Most of the best arguments for our cause imo come from women. Feminists are free to post but should expect to be debated. The word feminism is a fundamentally sexist word carrying a huge amount of negative baggage. Millions of men and boys have been victimised (and in return victimised women and girls) precisely because feminism happened instead of actual neutral egalitarianism/anti-sexism. I'm not saying that men have it worse than women, or that misogyny isn't stil…
/r/MensRights13/04/16 08:38 PM
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I've said it before, but you're all failing to appreciate the difference between positive and negative segregation. This is positive segregation. Look at Saudi Arabia where single men are segregated from women and families throughout the entire country, we can only hope to one day match the progressiveness of their intricate network of safe spaces.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 04:17 PM
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As an aside : notice how many feminists will insist on surveys instead of police reports for rape statistics, but will then try to use police reports instead of surveys to downplay female on male domestic violence.
/r/MensRights04/04/16 07:42 PM
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Or we're just waiting on voluntary pre-implantation embryonic screening to take off. Eugenics used to be considered a "progressive" cause before people found out what went on in nazi germany during ww2.
/r/MensRights03/04/16 04:31 PM
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The all or nothing verdict process makes no sense to me....
/r/MensRights03/04/16 03:44 PM
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Without giving too much away, the crash happened during my college years.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 07:23 PM
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I'm glad that when I was there, there seemed to me to be very little of this shit (or maybe I was just oblivious to it). I hung out with some members of the lgbt society and sjw stuff never came up, the one time I did tell one of them (who is a raging tumblrina now) that I was anti-feminist because I believe in equality rather than female superiority, nothing was made of it. So many people I knew from college are tumblr-level sjws now though, it's sad to see a gay guy posting on facebook that le…
/r/MensRights31/03/16 07:02 PM
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/r/socialism is hardly everyone who calls themselves a socialist, no more than /r/atheism is everyone who calls themselves an atheist.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 10:20 AM
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You think west africans didn't have clothes before Europeans? It was black rulers who sold the slaves to Europeans. Obviously they weren't as technologically advanced as Europeans, but they had already been at an Iron age level for at least 2000 years.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 09:53 AM
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To unequivocally debunk the feminist myth would take an entire book, which would require years to research. You're going to have to be very neutral and balanced and as fact-orientated as possible, which most mrm stuff imo falls short of. "Positive discrimination" and false accusations are what feminists WANT you to complain about - not that they're not valid complaints, but things like the gender empathy/victimhood gap, men's lives being valued less, maternal superiority, male moral inferiority …
/r/MensRights27/03/16 10:08 PM
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There's a difference between positive and negative segregation, this is clearly positive segregation and therefore should be applauded. Hopefully soon the entire world will be an intricate network of safe spaces where single men are kept away from women and families, just like in progressive Saudi Arabia.
/r/MensRights27/03/16 12:50 PM
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I wonder if the author and most of the commenters are the same people who'll insist that feminism is just about equality and nothing to do with hating men...
/r/MensRights25/03/16 08:12 PM
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Is it just me, or does this poll show more women to be internalised misogynists than men to be misogynists? Somebody should tell those women the patriarchy doesn't expect themselves to oppress themselves that much anymore... /s.
/r/MensRights24/03/16 10:27 PM
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This is probably one of the best articles out there imo, it touches on so much. Sad it hasn't gotten more attention when it's been posted. I guess the worst part for me is that before I started looking into feminism more deeply, I just assumed this stuff was common knowledge for most of the population...
/r/MensRights24/03/16 05:01 PM
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You would have thought such an intelligent woman would understand how work is privelege. Good thing the judge stepped in to stop her internalised misogyny. /s.
/r/MensRights23/03/16 10:06 AM
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Excuse me, us feminist sociologists have changed the definition of "abuse" : you can now only abuse someone if you are a member of a majority group and they are a member of a minority group, and seeing how we have already changed the definition of "minority" to include women, this means only men can abuse women. /s.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 12:24 PM
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Shit. Someone should make an archive of the worst jezebel articles and post it to /r/MensRightsLinks just in case...
/r/MensRights19/03/16 11:06 PM
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Maybe the lesson is that people shouldn't secretly record people engaging in sexual acts or being by nude in privacy without their consent. Is the idea of a punishment fitting the crime not a vital aspect of a just society? I mean, most people would agree that cutting off someone's hand for stealing is not just, even if it does more effectively deter theft.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 11:03 PM
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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/boy-facing-sex-trial-as-court-upholds-romeo-and-juliet-law-26824861.html
/r/MensRights18/03/16 08:09 PM
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The Supreme court ruled that because women face a risk of pregnancy with sex, they do not consider it to be "discrimination" to have legislation which treats men and women differently when it comes to sex... It's a cop out if you ask me, but that's their excuse.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 11:52 PM
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Nope. The correct response is "male lives matter" to address the real disparity. Someone who says "women are the primary victims of war" is doubtful to be capable of such thinking... unless they are nothing but a careerist who says whatever they think will make them successful...
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:12 PM
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Feminists relentlessly complain about aspects of our culture which they perceive as being especially anti-woman - showing that they're not gendered is important. It's not so much about claiming victimhood for men (at least to me - I agree with you, I look nothing like those men and am very happy with my attractiveness, and with the validation of it I have gotten from women I find attractive), it's about disproving feminist ideas that women are being especially targeted. Feminists claim to be off…
/r/MensRights16/03/16 10:16 PM
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To show that it goes both ways?
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:22 PM
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Recognizing someone as being attractive =/= feeling sexual desire for them. What the fuck? I see no reason for this story to be on Jezebel (considering their focus) other than for pure anti-man purposes.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 03:01 PM
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If you're arguing about a sex difference not being recognised, then you're not arguing against people being "sexist" you're arguing against people failing to be sexist. You're literally arguing in FAVOUR of sexism - which might be justified. I hate feminists declaring anything they don't like to be "sexism" to score fake anti-man points.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 02:39 PM
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As someone who is interested in the relationship between feminism and general society over time, I would very much like to hear an elaboration....
/r/MensRights16/03/16 01:14 PM
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It's only a female advantage if you have an egalitarian view of things. Clearly the staff at OKcupid are being sexist by failing to be sexist.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 09:26 PM
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I think a lot of the most selfish women do want men to do more, but still want to retain childcare and housework as their realm, as in they like the idea of a helpmate rather than an actual full equal.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 11:44 AM
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The emotional, verbal and psychological abuse parts concern me. They seem much more ripe for abuse and sexist bias than physical violence.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 10:39 PM
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Your view of gender roles in developing countries is inaccurate and based on the "progressive racism" that both conservatives AND feminists can buy into. Don't believe the propaganda. I'm not saying those places aren't shit for women, but they're shit for men too. Iirc, Pakistan has one of the highest pro-female happiness gaps in the world.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 10:28 PM
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I'm too lazy to dig up sources, but the life expectancy gap is closing, leading several feminist columnists to declare misogyny....
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:37 PM
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Is there a functional difference between /r/mensrightslinks and /r/mrref?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:16 PM
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I'd advise mentioning the idea of an empathy gap and a victimhood gap and that this is precisely the reason anti-male sexism is not seen as equivalent. If "misogyny backfiring in men" is mentioned, just say that that is a dogmatic assertion without any actual evidence.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 08:10 PM
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I respectfully disagree. Feminism is an inherantly sexist term. The feminist movement has been a major promoter of unignoreable and unforgiveable misandry for decades. It's not "radical" feminists who are the problem, it's the mainstream feminist movement. Sure, there might be a number of nominal feminists who hold reasonable views, but they're not the most explicitly feminist journalists/writers, they're not the vast bulk of feminist academics, activists or ngo workers - in short, they are not …
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:27 AM
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I think most people with mra leanings would fall into the category of being offended by the double standard more than anything (and the fact that the people making these jokes would very often be the first in line to be offended by the reverse).
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:02 AM
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You're assuming a female 9 will choose to share a male 9 with another female 9, that's probably not how it works. In reality there's probably a good chance she'll choose a male 7/8 all to herself - A male polygynous 9 might be choosing two 6s instead of one 9 (which is still an evolutionary benefit to him). Women have (and always have had) real bargaining power (and an army of white knights all too willing to even submit to it if they think it can get them a woman out of their league), which sho…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 02:18 PM
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Statistics show otherwise : http://www.gallup.com/poll/6235/love-marriage-within-islamic-world.aspx That said, rates of polygamy are quite low, possibly making people (especially men) not realise what it would actually mean. Some women who say they are against it might nonetheless jump at the chance of they were given a good enough offer.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 09:14 PM
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If you're talking about the African American community, that's largely because of the number of young African American men in jail or otherwise "missing" from society, creating an artificial man shortage. Humans are not chimps. Women are almost definitely wired to want higher investment if they can get it.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 08:47 PM
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I appreciate that this article gives a first hand subjective account into the Islamic world, such that some cultures in that world can indeed be felt to be gynocentric, but it's heavy on anecdotes and light on actual statistics. Polygyny benefits the men at the top and the women at the bottom, it hurts both women and men in different ways, but is ultimately bad for society as a whole. One overlooked side-effect is that the woman scarcity pushes the age of marriage for men up and the age of marri…
/r/MensRights15/02/16 08:44 PM
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Evolutionary theory says that if you're high status it skews male, if you're low status it skews female. Although perhaps if you're going to have a child who is virtually guaranteed not to reproduce (say a 3rd child in a poor family in a society of Malthusian lock down), it is better economically to have that virtually-condemned-to-celibacy child be male. There's also another argument that during a time of heavy war which is more defensive than likely to be won, and is also in Malthusian lockdow…
/r/MensRights14/02/16 12:11 PM
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This is one lone feminist. I strongly suspect these views are much widely held. When Norway extended compulsory military service to women there were protests from feminist groups, using much the same arguments: http://womenalliance.org/no-to-female-conscription
/r/MensRights13/02/16 10:31 PM
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I'm glad at the comments here. The media takes huge effort to paint the Islamic world as characterised by genuine misogyny rather than forced rigid bidirectional gender roles and general authoritarian repression. The picture is a lot more complex and bidirectional than most people think. I'm too lazy to go through it in depth, but I'll leave this here : http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/08/world/middleeast/08women.html
/r/MensRights13/02/16 09:58 PM
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Although the official recognition of disadvantage where it exists at face value (rather than clinging to evidenceless models such as feminist intersectional theory) is a great step forward, I can't agree with discriminatory policies, "positive" or not.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 10:55 PM
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Domestic abuse against men is taken less seriously (see: Hope Solo) Not just physical abuse but any aggression at all (and this is a study of psychologists who are in a position of power and supposed to be less biased than the general population) : http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2c4p26/antimale_bias_within_the_american_psychological/ Another study showing bias towards mothers/against fathers in child abuse cases (translated) : https://archive.is/lcvpn
/r/MensRights09/02/16 12:08 PM
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What do you say to statements that fgm is a predominantly female led, female run and female supported phenomenon and that the cultural suppression of female sexuality (fgm being an extreme version) is in fact motivated by female selfishness as much if not more than male selfishness? http://www.austin-institute.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Cultural-Suppression-of-Female-Sexuality.pdf
/r/MensRights07/02/16 09:09 PM
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There was a survey done 2 years ago (600 responses), the results might surprise you (it used American parties though and 40% of responders were not from the US so were much more likely to tick "other") : https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1gp2u6/results_from_the_rmensrights_survey/? I consider myself a liberal btw.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 11:42 PM
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Does a cunt have to be a woman? I don't know about the US, but where I'm from cunt is gender neutral, which is somewhat ironic. The only reason it's used so much is because a segment of the population have irrationally decided it's the most offensive word in the English language.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 02:09 PM
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Haven't seen all of them, but Janice Fiamengo is definitely top of the list of people to reference if I'm trying to convince a would-be "moderate" feminist. Her lecture on "what's wrong with women's studies" is well worth a watch.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 04:18 PM
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For some reason the article won't show the links so I can't send any emails. Evidence that Roosh/Rok are not mras : https://archive.is/9FsKZ http://archive.is/7eRED https://archive.is/csaH6 http://archive.is/2mPF8 http://imgur.com/r/mensrights/83XKV4r
/r/MensRights05/02/16 01:11 AM
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Warren Farrell. If you haven't seen it already, there's a video of the protest it's referencing.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 09:30 PM
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This is the original comic it's referring to, if you're wondering.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 06:44 PM
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More evidence of the glass cellar. It's piling up. EDIT - just read this : It's not yet clear why girls are so tough, but they seem much better suited to the challenges of modern childhood. Even in an article supposedly sympathetic to boys they can't help but engage in the sexism double standard...
/r/MensRights01/02/16 04:04 PM
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I suspect this is only a portion of the bias, but this is an important study.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 02:13 AM
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Remember that time when Cherie Blair (wife of the UK prime minister at the time and a "human rights" lawyer) gave an award to a woman for killing her husband by setting fire to him/his bed while he slept?
/r/MensRights27/01/16 11:30 AM
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Holy fuck. The comments on that article are like being on another planet.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 11:03 AM
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Some feminists are more actually egalitarian than others. They still might hold a lot of "patriarchy" baggage or otherwise not realise the extent to which sexism goes both ways, but feminism isn't a monolith. I certainly remember a thread on one of the SRS subs where they were very much against it.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:10 PM
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Nope. It's a sexist insensitive term primarily insisted upon by those who want to belittle the idea that sexism goes both ways. It's not for women to decide whether or not it can be "reclaimed", it's for every man and boy who has ever in any way felt personally victimised by female misandry, and from me that's a big "fuck no". You can call yourself and egalitarian, humanist, anti-sexist, gender liberationist, gender neutralist etc. I'm sure there are plenty more neutral, unbiased terms.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 11:04 PM
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Denmark's attitudes on drugs and prostitution are also very different from Sweden's.
/r/MensRights24/01/16 09:10 PM
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Worst of all, she compares dick to boobs, instead of dick to vag and male toplessness to female toplessness. It's a pet peeve of mine.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 04:35 PM
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The great big sexism double standard is not egalitarian, but it is very feminist.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 01:45 PM
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Because they are specifically targeting males. This allows them to slip under the progressive "anti-racist" (i.e only anti-racist when it comes to women) radar...
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:16 PM
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You're the one making the generalisations about liberals. I am a liberal and an egalitarian and very much against feminism and double standards. The worst feminists are anything but liberal. Hillary Clinton at least has the good sense to make a deliberate effort to refer to herself as progressive instead of liberal. I'll admit I have an agenda : uniting those on both the right and left who are in favour of strong civil liberty (which is ime the majority of posters here) under a single banner. Co…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 02:54 PM
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1) They have a huge foothold in academia, esp in the anglophone world where social sciences are largely driven by the writings of American feminists. This is the correct answer. If it was not for acedemic entrenchment, feminism would have lost to non-sexist egalitarianism during the 90s at the absolute latest (and that's giving huge leeway). Unfortunately there are more than enough dullards who on some level know they're not the brightest, but still want something they can circlejerk intellectua…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 02:34 PM
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Confusing liberalism with progressivism is like confusing egalitarianism with feminism.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 12:05 PM
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Are you on board with getting rid of feminist theory - i.e describing sexism as going both ways (doesn't matter the degree) and treating issues at face value? I'm definitely on board with making English fully gender neutral. I don't use Mr. Or Mrs. very much, I don't see why they are necessary... :\
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 10:03 PM
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Without feminism, things won't continue to improve. They'll go backward. That's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing positive feminism could achieve which couldn't be achieved just as well if not better by abandoning the "feminist" label and feminist theory and using gender neutral egalitarian terminology instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:43 PM
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This? Probably one of the most important studies concerning the empathy/victimhood gap, and with psychologists rather than the general public, which makes it worse...
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:52 PM
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That's probably true, but ideally that's what should be campaigned against.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 08:51 AM
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You can argue it's inappropriate, but not sexist. Personally I don't think it's the end of the world if a tv interview is treated casually and ends up getting weird.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 11:13 PM
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If they can't perform to an adequate gender neutral standard then there's no need to exclude them on the basis of being women.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 10:17 PM
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Honestly, I think the media would be ok (the self-justifying rationale being of course that she chose it and knew the risk- it's not like we're talking about drafting young women into those roles). It would divide people, but watershed moves towards greater equality means that. She'd be immortalised as a feminist hero forever though.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:53 PM
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Awalt? Seriously? We're upvoting this shit now?
/r/MensRights11/01/16 08:43 AM
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Her opinion is her opinion, I suspect the real reason she left was for the safety of her son (who she kidnapped btw), not because of the rigid gender roles she couldn't have not expected. The men are literally fighting a war, while the women are being kept safe, you can't expect full direct gender equality in such an environment. At the city’s Isis-run maternity hospital, where she was to work, Given job. It took just 10 days for Kasiki to wake from what she describes as a “paralysing torpor”, p…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 08:40 AM
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Reminder that they attacked a significant number of men too, so it's about ethnic conflict more than misogyny, but people don't care so much about that.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 07:50 PM
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Tl,dr : women complaining about the stress involved with maintaining double-superiority over men.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 07:25 PM
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Seconding "is there anything good about men". Didn't agree with all of it, but definitely more science/theory based than social commentary based, whilst remaining on the whole fairly moderate.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 11:04 AM
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It comes down to the sexist view of sex - wherein sex (at least outside of a committed relationship) is seen as inherently dominant for the man and inherently submissive for the woman. Of course, feminists can't admit to that, so they invented "objectification".
/r/MensRights03/01/16 07:53 PM
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Lolwut?
/r/MensRights03/01/16 07:03 PM
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Feminism as a mere byword for equality makes no logical sense, at best it's still extremely misleading as a term, which makes it grossly counter-productive. It's also an inherently sexist term. So the only reason a person would use that word instead of the many superior non-inflammatory words (and it is extremely personal to a lot of guys who have felt personally victimised by misandry - given the baggage attached to that word) is if you have some sort of ulterior motive aside from just equality…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 09:55 PM
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If anyone ever tries to pull the "feminism just means believing in equality" shit with you, ask them why this still an issue in 2015 and who is primarily responsible for that. Regardless of their opinion on misandry, they will be forced to admit that there really is an unignoreable difference between the feminist movement and "just believing equality".
/r/MensRights18/12/15 08:44 PM
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Came here to say this. Was not dissappointed. That aside, if masculinity is indeed currently more fragile than femininity, perhaps that says something about our supposed "patriarchy". I mean unless you're part of the "femininity is internalised misogyny" brigade, which I doubt many straight female feminists are actually a part of.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:54 PM
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Exactly. Living in your own house is not called "housesitting".
/r/MensRights15/12/15 08:22 PM
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I just feel my natural masculinity gives me a desire to protect women and children. Whilst getting zero back for it? I definitely don't have any desire to protect some entitled feminist who expects the best of both worlds. I don't give a shit if women are worse in combat roles, if people are being forced into combat roles against their will I want 50% of them to be women.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 06:21 PM
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You can only educate. This sub is the best place to start. Most people here probably have unwitingly bought into the western feminist narrative of gender in Islamic cultures, simply because they don't even know that narrative can be legitimately questioned - that's how it was for me. But in my experience posts which challenge this narrative in a pro-equality way are actually generally well received.
/r/MensRights04/12/15 02:09 PM
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/r/MensRights22/11/15 11:15 AM
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I don't think the mrm is anti-socialist, at least on this sub people have a good sense of setting aside political differences in other areas. Quite a lot of posters here lean left, as do I. I think the problem is the activist groups tend to attract more hardcore types, complete with seeing Karl Marx as a visionary and communism could work if it was done properly etc. It's going against the socialist dogma to see sexism and gender roles as anything other than a unidirectional system of male prive…
/r/MensRights22/11/15 10:13 AM
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Yep.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 07:25 PM
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politics doesn't make a good front page So /r/twoxchromosomes is going to be similarly modded for political content?
/r/MensRights15/11/15 06:58 PM
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same bullshit that social conservatives tried to pull on women that feminists complain so much about. Social conservatives tried to pull a lot of stuff on men/boys too. It's important not to forget that.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:42 AM
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It gained an extra 4 $10,000 pledges. I'm not sure the film has enough backing to account for potential troll pledges.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 01:25 PM
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Just a warning : as a man, any physical aggression, even a push, even in retaliation, could potentially see you lose custody of your children after a divorce/breakup, to a much greater extent than the reverse. Not that I condone violence at all btw, just that it's very likely they'll come down hard on a father for things they would give leeway to a mother for. This info I've come across from a feminist lawyer on reddit who was trying to argue that the courts weren't biased. She said they take in…
/r/MensRights28/10/15 09:17 PM
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You realise that while Boko Haram and ISIS are both known for kidnapping the women and girls of "enemy" groups and forcing them to be wives/sex-slaves, they straight up kill the men and boys of those same groups in equal or greater numbers? It's also important to realise that neither Boko Haram nor ISIS treat their own "ingroup" women like that. The dynamic of "kill the men, rape/kidnap the women" is probably as old as humanity itself, it really has very little to do with misogyny and a lot more…
/r/MensRights28/10/15 08:25 PM
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I think it's often an unconscious evolutionary self-interest thing. Take a guess which sex Obama's two children are?
/r/MensRights28/10/15 04:00 PM
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It's not the first time he's said something like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOpid-VHh0 Also, note that Hillary Clinton is beside him smugly nodding and clapping along.
/r/MensRights28/10/15 03:40 PM
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I remember this being posted before and a feminist coming in and saying "why can't we focus on the positives" as if feminists focusing on the positives of men hasn't been anything other than a drop in the ocean (and statements celebrating "the minority of good guys" don't count).
/r/MensRights28/10/15 12:36 PM
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Glass ceiling/glass cellar, wider distribution curve - men are more advantaged at the top, but more disadvantaged at the bottom. Tbh, I'm surprised seeing it apply to physical appearance factors - something women are generally accepted as having their social/mate value judged on to a greater degree than men. I wonder how reliably replicable these results will be.
/r/MensRights28/10/15 12:03 PM
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When he and I spoke on the phone, I told him everything about this project and this film, but as with any journalist, you never really know what story they're going to tell (which is why so many are fearful about me making this film, I get it). With Milo's article, he reported exactly what has been going on and never took me out of context. She'd have to be a pretty big deliberate liar. That and a hit-piece would apparently contradict her earlier films.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 09:20 PM
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They misspelled Bruce. Are you against people changing their name?
/r/MensRights27/10/15 08:50 PM
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Ha. Not really, I've never made a non-trivial donation to anything before. I've spent so much time posting about sexism going both ways on the internet, I figured putting some of my own money to counter the financial behemoth that is the feminist movement was long overdue. Only posted it here in the hopes of motivating other people in a similar situation to donate.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 04:49 PM
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Only have 400 in my account, gave 250. Fuck it. If this at some point gets on netflix, getting the facts and stats (she mentioned animating stats in her AMA) known to fence-sitters would be enough to cause the sea-change we need.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 10:55 PM
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If it's catering to pro-traditional offense rather than pro-equality offense I wouldn't see that as anything to be happy about. Sure, there's a double standard nowadays, but going backwards I assume isn't what we want.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 08:17 PM
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The feminist movement has always had a huge misandric moral panic element to it, even before women had the vote. And I agree that the changes towards more direct equality were imo largely inevitable, and at the very least didn't need "feminism" (and all the baggage that comes with it) instead of just making arguments of liberty and equality. But this : were forced to "grow up." is just needlessly offensive. The average non-rich woman has always had plenty on her plate.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 01:48 PM
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I'm partially ok with the idea of "privilege" outside of gender. It doesn't automatically mean you're living the good life, it just means the good life is on average that bit easier for you to achieve. However, when you start going from generalised averages to individual people you run into problems - which is where I think a lot of the offense comes from. I would also think that class privilege far and away trumps everything else.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 07:22 PM
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Shit. That is annoying as it destroys the convenience of that graph.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 02:02 PM
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At that age, especially nowadays, the advantages/protections girls are given are subtle and you'd have to know exactly where to look (i.e things which cut to the core of masculinity vs femininity). This is evidence of the glass cellar. We need more of it.
/r/MensRights24/10/15 10:03 AM
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Outside of the mainstream media, it's hilarious the difference between feminist and mra spaces/blogs/videos in terms of whether or not they allow fully free open discussion.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 09:34 PM
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Compared to the millions of men who had to die in ww1 for universal male suffrage to be granted (only 50% of men over 21 had a vote before ww1).
/r/MensRights23/10/15 09:00 PM
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Actually I didn't miss the "/s", I just interpreted your sarcasm differently than you intended :\.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 03:16 PM
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Reminds me of the UN's global gender gap report. Just keep repeating to yourself that these are just fringe radicals, a few bad apples, and not representative of the views of an unignoreable (and unignoreably influential) chunk of the population.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 12:41 PM
2

If you're calling sexism against men "reverse sexism" then you're at least half buying into feminist bullshit. Please stop...
/r/MensRights23/10/15 12:08 PM
2

Apparently so, because he and the other men in that culture have been taught to believe that men should be in charge of things and women should obey men. They believe (in theory) that men deserve a leadership position, yes, in compensation for male disposability/hardship and everything linked to it. Depending on how extreme things are for men this compensatory male dominance could be quite high. Age gap marriages I would imagine are also a factor in this. You have to remember a huge amount of pl…
/r/MensRights21/10/15 08:26 PM
5

Not automatically, no. But when it's men that create and enforce the laws, and there are a wide variety of restrictions on what women can't do and can't say and can't wear and very few restrictions on men specifically, that's what makes it favor men over women. If you assume that men are more biased towards other men than women (the evidence - admittedly from the west) indicates that this is not the case. That women do not have the social bargaining power to influence men's views. That men with …
/r/MensRights21/10/15 03:48 PM
3

Just because a society has rigid gender roles and is in general all round repressive, doesn't mean it automatically favours one sex over the other. The majority of women in Islamic countries don't feel oppressed. But that won't stop the media from cherry-picking and spinning things to enable their own "progressive" racism (misandric racism being the only remaining acceptable kind), with even most mras being perfectly happy to blindly, unskeptically go along with it.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 12:39 PM
11

Do you have an np link?
/r/MensRights21/10/15 11:09 AM
1

Trying to lump redpillers and mras together is like going back to the 60s/70s and trying to lump in women who wanted more direct equality with those who wanted more special treatment. Sure, both groups might think women were disadvantaged, but that's where the similarity ends. Sure, there might have been a huge amount of women who wanted both, but it would be intellectually dishonest to deliberately conflate the two arguments. Redpillers have been used as a strawman against mras for too long. Th…
/r/MensRights20/10/15 01:07 PM
1

/r/mensrights used to have several times the subscribers as /r/theredpill. When I first joined reddit seriously /r/mensrights was actually pretty high up in the list of subreddits to potentially subscribe to. My guess for /r/theredpill having more subscribers is that it's much more inflammatory nature gets it mentioned in other subreddits much more often.
/r/MensRights20/10/15 12:41 PM
4

Can we please not upvote this? I'm not passing judgement on dark humour. I just don't think this sub is the place for it, and I don't think it gives a good impression to outsiders.
/r/MensRights20/10/15 10:03 AM
17

But men looking for feminist-sanctioned romance tend to fall in to one of two categories: those who use our attraction as a sign of approval and seek out trophy feminists to clear their conscience of any inherent patriarchal wrong-doing, Does anyone else find this extremely depressing? It's like male original sin. Of course it makes sense. Blame shifting is a classic tactic of emotional abusers and the central foundation of feminist theory is literally that all the blame and shame for sexism/gen…
/r/MensRights19/10/15 09:17 PM
1

Because we don't actually know what went down? The other party later informed me that the sex was not consensual. I failed to properly establish consent before every act. What her sjw club considers to be "rape" isn't necessarily considered rape by the law of the land.
/r/MensRights19/10/15 07:52 PM
3

because of a legal anomaly The Irish incest laws are currently being changed due to a similar pro-female/anti-male "anomaly" in sentencing. Neither of these would be called "an anomaly" if they were the other way around. The reality is that neither laws were anomalies, they were very much part of a still ongoing trend whereby legislative sexism against women was done away before most of us were born, but legislative sexism against men has remained.
/r/MensRights19/10/15 06:04 PM
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Nope. Feminism 101. You can't be sexist against men/boys. The reason for this is because women do not hold institutional power, especially not in schools where the majority of teachers are women.
/r/MensRights19/10/15 05:23 PM
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I have no problem with discouraging such language. What I really don't like is the idea of "squads" of smug, self-righteous girls waving their fake, establishment-backed feminine moral superiority around in the boys faces. The best we can hope for is that rather than demoralisation, the boys will fight back (which will inevitably result in misogyny), which is sad, and just in general a perpetuation of the feminist cycle of shit, which if you're not aware goes like this : Engage in misandry (unde…
/r/MensRights19/10/15 11:51 AM
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You realise an end to college hookups is exactly what the sex-negative crowd want, right? Advice like this is the end goal they unconsciously want.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 01:31 PM
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And what exactly are mras doing to address toxic masculinity? /s
/r/MensRights10/10/15 10:16 PM
1

It's based on this fake feminist idea (used to convince women of historical/developing world "patriarchy") of men being the breadwinners/name-holders of property = male financial domination of women, when in fact the reality of most "patriarchal" cultures involved/involves women running the household finances. The word "economics" comes from greek "oikonomia" which literally means "household management", which was the woman's job.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 10:35 PM
2

You mean men, right?
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 04:24 PM
8

I'm always surprised this isn't on every post about her. She probably spends her time harping about "white privelege" despite easily passing for white everywhere she goes.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 04:23 PM
1

Should it not then be a law against inciting violence, rather than a law against "hate speech"?
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 04:17 PM
5

I wouldn't say it's a step forward, but it is hilarious to see laws authoritarian feminists support backfire on them. It reminds me of when Canadian feminists pushed for anti-obscenity laws and the main people targeted afterwards were feminist bookstores: https://glasgowsexworker.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/history-lesson-what-happened-when-canada-enacted-a-feminist-anti-porn-law/
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/15 04:14 PM
3

This was unexpectedly very good. It hit on most of the important points with regards men's status within the traditionally "female" realm, and the subordinate/inferior position men very often occupy with regards childcare/housework even in supposedly "egalitarian" couples (which surprise, surprise a lot of men react to by withdrawing and dragging their heels). Unfortunately it stopped short of truly making feminists question the feminist narrative of male/female power/privelege in society.
/r/MensRights03/10/15 01:59 PM
5

It's funny because it would be so easy to condescendingly dismiss a lot of feminists as suffering from "fragile femininity".
/r/MensRights01/10/15 09:12 AM
6

Punching up vs punching down, shitlord!
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:00 PM
12

1914-1918, the most privileged time to be a man!
/r/PussyPass19/09/15 07:59 AM
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ok, so women are getting more of the "social" jobs than men. but is that because they're better at it, or because they are simply not capable of doing anything else? Or because women derive more fulfillment from these jobs relative to other jobs than men? I don't think women are better team players than men.
/r/MensRights07/09/15 11:29 AM
2

Masculist campaign : End bitch culture! Why are you calling us misogynists? We're totally 100% egalitarian, it's the people who don't think female selfishness is the ultimate root cause of sexism who are the sexists! /s.
/r/MensRights06/09/15 08:18 PM
15

It's still shitty, but good to know it doesn't seem like a double-standard.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 09:51 PM
16

Do you know if the same policy applies to women wanting their tubes tied?
/r/MensRights04/09/15 07:25 PM
1

You are indeed correct. "Gynocentrism" (as currently commonly described) is the redpill retort to "patriarchy". The worst part is despite me not thinking either are the way society as a whole operates, they are both accurate when judging the attitudes of a specific minority of individuals of both sexes.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 07:22 PM
5

You realise that an end to hookups is exactly what the sex-negative feminists want, right? This campaign is the exact result they've been subconsciously looking for.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 12:21 PM
5

I think a lot of feminist type women choose to work in fields of formal social power precisely because they hate half the population.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 09:35 AM
0

I don't see anything wrong with wanting inclusive gender neutral language. We are a pro-equality sub, right? Edit : not to mention (as mentioned above) that this is a major argument against the word feminism. Implicitly excluding terminology does have psychological effects, arguments about the history of a word don't change this (isn't this the argument a lot of feminists use too?).
/r/MensRights31/08/15 03:03 PM
1

I've known many women/girls who were aggressively pro-equality when it suited them and aggressively pro-traditionalism when it suited them. Sure, the comic is an extreme example, but if you're looking for milder versions of that attitude it's really common. I think most guys here have had such experiences. Protip : It's not uncommon for women/girls who are double-standardist towards guys they see as socially beneath them to be at least somewhat genuinely submissive towards guys they see as socia…
/r/MensRights30/08/15 10:08 AM
2

You're talking about extreme sjws you see on /r/TumblrInAction, most progressives have no problem painting a completely demonised picture of the men in Islamic countries. Not that I'm any sort of fan of Islam, or religion in general.
/r/MensRights30/08/15 09:58 AM
1

Well obviously. I did say both sexes are forced into shitty boxes.
/r/MensRights30/08/15 09:33 AM
4

We need to start some male only "safe spaces". They should also say "no girls allowed" just to rub the sexism in.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 03:57 PM
3

There's an episode of Oprah with Warren Farrell from the early 90s on youtube, this argument was put forward and even the mra-type guys in the audience agreed with it (and then several women said they asked guys out all the time...lol). It just sounds like insane narcissistic entitlement to me. If my friend asked me to see a movie and I turned up and expected him to pay saying "Hey. You invited me. I'm doing you the favour by gracing you with MY presence" I'm pretty sure that would be the friend…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 03:15 PM
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I think it highlights the very real problem of double-standardism amongst women.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 03:04 PM
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You realise that demonising the men of developing countries as being sociopaths when it comes to women is the sort of racism that both conservatives and progressives can get behind? You realise that it's no different from the feminist demonisation of western men in the past? It's not just racism, but misandry. And everyone, even most mras blindly accept it. It just cements it to me that men are more outgroup-able than women, which is at least partially tied in with the gender empathy gap of whic…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:59 PM
5

Are boys taught to be more aggressive than girls? Personally that was not my experience, but on a wider scale perhaps. Are boys taught to be more aggressive towards girls than the reverse? I definitely do not think that is true. I think that, in part due to feminists coming forward with their grievances, men have been able to say "yeah, well we suffer from [insert valid societal expectation]" and we, as a society, can see how our gendered expectations are hindering society. Women could have come…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 10:22 AM
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I noticed this too. Unfortunately, it's not so simple. The "77 cents on the dollar" statistic only includes "full time workers". https://www.whitehouse.gov/equal-pay/career Hours worked is still a significant factor, even amongst "full time" workers, but it is usually included in the more rigorous, high-profile debunkings of that stat posted here.
/r/MensRights28/08/15 09:22 PM
2

And who cares about the men who don't go to college when by logical extension their prospects should be pretty shit too?
/r/MensRights28/08/15 09:02 PM
4

But yet women's messaging rates do not show a writing off of 80% of men. Unless you think women are messaging guys they see as way beneath them and the "settling" problem is vastly worse than any of us have imagined (imo highly unlikely), what it really most likely means is that attractiveness is more subjective for women. Of course just because a significant chunk of Average Janes WILL be interested in Average Joe, it doesn't really change the fact that most of them are walking around the place…
/r/MensRights28/08/15 08:15 PM
2

What's the difference between a cultural libertarian and a civil libertarian? I'm pretty sure most civil libertarians would hold the same values for institutions such as colleges etc.
/r/MensRights28/08/15 08:03 PM
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Because women don't character-assassinate their (ex-)husbands. Because feminism hasn't always been a major promoter of this. Let's just ignore the studies that show women are as verbally aggressive and controlling as men in relationships if not more. Let's ignore the real sexist problem that this just isn't viewed as severely, even by professional psychologists, when it really should be. But gasps from women that their hubbies are possessive psychos are generally convincing. After all, a fragile…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 09:34 PM
4

I don't know what it's like in the states, but I'm very glad gay rights stuff and feminism have been kept separate in the media from what I can see (other than the obvious lesbian feminist stereotype), for the gay movement's sake. Before I found reddit I never knew they were so fully interlinked, honestly my feelings when I see or hear "lgbt movement" have changed. I still support equal rights for everyone, but I don't like being an enemy of a movement I want to support and have my support (and …
/r/MensRights22/08/15 02:49 PM
4

Did you know that ISIS have executed 1,362 civillians, including 9 women?
/r/MensRights21/08/15 08:42 PM
2

Idk about that, but they do recieve the most empathy, which feminists do their best to maintain whilst complaining about the trade-offs involved with achieving/maintaining that position of empathy privilege.
/r/MensRights21/08/15 08:37 PM
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This is too true. They think they're engaging in some progressive act of subversion when really they're engaging in the age-old demonisation of the more demoniseable sex.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 03:35 PM
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What a hateful piece of anti-man and especially anti-father garbage. I am ashamed this is not in the negatives. I can only assume people upvoted without reading it.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 09:25 PM
1

Second: If that is true I really wonder why that would be the case. Females have hormonal cycles relating to ovulation, whereas males are more hormonally consistent. At least that's my understanding of the medical reasoning. As far as this study is concerned, it's an intellectual curiosity which can't be taken to signify any immuteable differences between male and female humans.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:18 PM
2

Moral psychology has seen huge advancements over the last decade or so. We are the moralising species. Even violent criminals believe they are morally superior to the average person. This has good evolutionary reasoning. For our ancestors, moral trustworthiness carried huge social capital. This resulted in a psychology of self-deception which is rife within the human species, no conflict is immune from it's self-righteousness bolstering effects. The main effect of this is that if people want to …
/r/MensRights13/08/15 06:21 PM
2

I'm late to this thread but I thought I'd add two studies : Women are as if not more verbally aggressive and controlling in relationships (I'm sure everyone here already knows women are roughly equally physically violent). Psychologists ranked male on female aggression as worse than female on male aggression. This study basically proves what most of us knew already, and these are members of the American psychological assocation, not average people on the street (whose views are probably worse). …
/r/MensRights13/08/15 02:33 PM
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I use a much shorter response I saw on here about a month back (I'm paraphrasing) : If that is not your feminism, then your feminism is not the feminism of academia, ngos and activist groups. Your feminism is not the feminism which yields actual institutional power over people's lives. If your feminism is a whole world apart from the actual movers and shakers in the feminist world, then why call yourself a feminist and provide support to this toxic ideology you so thoroughly disagree with?
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:40 PM
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Ignore the downvotes, you are indeed correct. By availing of the services of a prostitute you are assigning a negative economic value to your sexuality. I guess it arguably gets murkier if we're talking about blowjobs/handjobs - especially if the price is low. Women currently hold a position of sexual superiority over/relative to men, it's actually imo secretly a pretty major part of a lot of women's identities - and is indeed part of their identity of power. If women want men to grant them equa…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:25 AM
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Only a person with the most sexist view of sex could see the typical mainstream nightclub as anything other than a zone of near-complete female supremacy. Regardless of what subculture they belong to, the majority of guys I know consider nightclubs (especially mainstream-y ones) to be an inferior replacement to a house party, tolerated only because they contain women and the hint of a chance of getting lucky. I will admit the drunken journey to the club is always fun, but the actual getting ther…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 03:45 PM
3

You're failing to understand double-standardism. Anti-female sexist ideas are the worst crime, but anti-male sexist ideas are either good or else not really a big deal. In our current culture, female hyoagency is selectively applied depending on what selfishly suits women. If this wasn't the case, feminists would not advance female hypoagency like they do.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 03:28 PM
3

I don't see any problem with this and I wouldn't see any problem with it if the sexes were reversed. The double-standard is worth pointing out, but I didn't realise the mrm was sex-negative and humourless.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 03:07 PM
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I prefer this response.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:03 AM
1

That was genuinely impressive. Well done!
/r/MensRights11/08/15 08:50 AM
1

I've seen a lot of studies that seem to show the opposite. In general I wouldn't trust people's self-reports of what they want in a partner as an accurate guide to what will actually generate the most attraction in real life.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 08:30 PM
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Not automatically, but the fact that he is black reeks of /pol/ culture (and wherever on reddit those sorts congregate). Their common trope being the male feminist cuckold (hence the insult "cuck"), and in case you didn't know the fantasies of guys with cuckolding fetishes disproportionately involve it being a black guy sleeping with their wives (who the fuck knows why?). Of course this ties in completely with the racist's views of stuff, so yeah, posting a comic which would be perfectly at home…
/r/MensRights09/08/15 07:23 PM
3

That fact would indeed be very fun if true. Do you have a source?
/r/MensRights09/08/15 07:12 PM
7

The cultural marginalisation of fathers, who are now effectively 2nd class parents, is a really huge deal, that and the gender empathy gap - which effectively makes men 2nd class victims (which includes both male disposability and higher male suicide rate). Can't believe these two aren't upvoted to the top.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 07:17 PM
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I'm wondering is the "male stranger" something women are genetically predisposed to fear. It seems like the gender empathy gap is stronger for strangers than for non-strangers. Tied in with this is men being more out-groupeable than women - meaning men would actually suffer the worst racism/classism/homophobia etc. rather than the women of these groups being "double victims" as feminists insist - the reality being their femaleness (on average) buffers them from most of the worst treatment. Obvio…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 11:45 AM
5

Does the "all sexism is misogyny" argument not piss anyone off? This is a classic example. Sure, you could argue that this could re-enforce separate misogynistic attitudes, but that's a pretty huge assumption. Afterall, it is women who are being granted the advantage over men, and the possible compensation for men is exactly that : "possible" (not definite). So the only way I can see it is this : Women deserve to have life easier because they are have inherent value whereas men do not. The world…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 02:44 PM
2

They say he left out several types of abuse that men commit more (most of which most people wouldn't immediately consider to be "domestic violence") but fail to give any citation for this claim. They then go on to say this : For example, the 1999 and 2004 General Social Surveys conducted by Statistics Canada focus on violence against women and men in intimate relationships and generated sexually symmetrical CTS data. Certainly, Statistics Canada has moved away from developing feminist surveys of…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 01:55 PM
6

This is reverse-redpill levels of conspiracy shit. I see that she's a lesbian, I wonder how butch she is. It shouldn't be a surprise that the more confidently feminine you are (which is something you need to feel from the bottom up), the more gestures of male submission and female privilege in general you will get - depending of course on your attractiveness - although it's not like male privilege and any gestures of female submission a man will get aren't dependant on him being confidently masc…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 11:10 AM
2

Here's a map for you : There are plenty of sex-negative feminists (particularly the higher up in feminist organisations you go) in almost every country. Continental Europe doesn't seem to be particularly against prostitution compared to other countries (and that includes Denmark - which is part of scandanavia). It's the difference between liberalism and progressivism. Sweden in particular has been for a long time been run on authoritarian "progressive" ideals. Another issue where you see this is…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 08:58 PM
20

This is quite possibly the worst character assassinating circlejerk I've ever seen. It's akin to saying all feminists are angry lesbians who want men reduced to 10% of the population. I have never seen that many baseless assumptions in a single post, there should be prize for that. MRAs are overwhelmingly egalitarian (unless you're deliberately confusing the mrm with the redpill movement). What sets the mrm apart from feminism is that mras see gender norms and sexism as bidirectional, instead of…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 11:41 AM
2

I wonder how much this has to do with maternal gatekeeping. Imo most women (especially once they become parents) still do subconsciously cling to a position/identity of the primary caregiver, even if only ever so slightly, if you actually examine it close enough. Sure, they'll say they want fully equal parenting, and they will be willing to go almost all the way to equal parenting, but not the whole way, there'll always be that tiny, almost tokentistic portion they're unwilling to give up, the p…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 11:09 AM
1

This might be a joke, but Sweden's feminist party wanted to do this for real. http://taxfoundation.org/blog/externalities-and-swedish-man-tax
/r/MensRights28/07/15 07:15 PM
3

I think we should hold off on making assumptions without evidence. While I definitely think the feminist narrative of single motherhood being overwhelmingly men's fault is wrong, I would be very interested in statistics showing what percentage of mid-pregnancy breakups are initiated by men vs women. I think the non-shit stirring assumption, when there is a lack of evidence, is to not assign any gender blame.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 06:14 PM
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Don't limit him. Don't try to use negative shaming to either force him towards or away from traditional masculinity. Negative shaming is the worst, trust me as someone who had the bleakest view of masculinity forced on him by his mother - she might also have forced the bleakest view of femininity upon my sisters, which isn't good either. My dad was pretty chill and non-forceful in regards masculinity/femininity, which I think is vastly more healthy, kids will gravitate towards what they want the…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 02:24 PM
1

Obviously there is a transactional element to social relationships, but loyalty and trustworthiness are generated best when this is psychologically minimised, and the social rewards gained over the long term from generating and maintaining a hard to fake impression of loyalty, trustworthiness and kindness have to some degree evolutionarily outweighed the benefits of being psychologically tapped into social transactionality at a constant tiny level. So yes, most people have a negative reaction to…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 09:44 AM
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My favourite part is that those same women are usually the first to rabidly insist that the effort they put into their appearance has absolutely NOTHING to do with men.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:28 PM
2

I guess I can't argue with that.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 09:22 PM
1

I'd be surprised if we don't have a significant number of students on this sub. I definitely would have been here instead of 4chan if reddit was the thing back then.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 03:50 PM
2

Someone on /r/dataisbeautiful made a bar chart of the CDC stats. The x-axis should probably be changed, but it would probably be better for a poster : http://i.imgur.com/VMZyvKy.png
/r/MensRights21/07/15 03:29 PM
7

It's not so much self-hatred as hatred of other males (direct competition).
/r/MensRights21/07/15 03:05 PM
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Submissive behaviour is not inherently creepy as long as you 100% desexualise yourself. The worst part is there are guys out there who have been influenced by feminist creep-shaming stuff and behave like this not realising it's throwing in the sexual towel. Then when the girl figures out he's interested she finds it the creepiest of all, seeing it as underhanded, despite the fact that it's exactly what her creep-shaming has been advocating.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 02:56 PM
3

Male disposability was a thing - ever since humanity emerged, but this was compensated with strong pro-male advantages. Advantages which women were for the most part fully willing to grant. It was a trade-off between the sexes. It doesn't mean women's overall social biases were towards other (direct competitor) women rather than men.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 07:13 PM
2

There is evidence that female same-sex socialisation tends towards more intimate relationships with a smaller number of people. I don't think either sex is more cooperative or egalitarian on the whole, but I think de-individualised large-group cooperation is something men/masculinity are geared towards enabling.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 06:56 PM
11

I don't know who's downvoting you. It's certainly very common for guys to think so. But apparently not (which makes sense given how sex-negative so much feminist rhetoric is) - obviously what they mean by this is "sex" by default without qualifiers. There are certainly cultural and possibly biological factors involved (the way I would see is that there are culturally adaptive "semi-biological" factors involved - related to the theory of sexual conflict). What this study shows is that one of thos…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 04:28 PM
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I'd be inclined to think that women want to preserve male disposability much more for their own selfish benefit than for that of other women. From an evo psych pov a woman's reproductive capacity just does not carry the same potential advantage for another woman that it does for a man. Women are each other's reproductive rivals. Yes, from a group-conflict pov female survival is more important, but we live in a world with the lowest level of group conflict (and strong group identity) there has ev…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 11:40 AM
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You can't say that. There's no real evidence either way. Personally I don't see any real reasoning for it to be innate. It's not like there aren't women who prefer men. I don't know where/when you grew up that you didn't see girls being actively encouraged to hold an ingroup/outgroup "battle of the sexes" view... and I don't see why these thoughts wouldn't become internalised as default automatic reactions if consistently held over a significant period of time. So yes, I'd be very much of the op…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 11:11 AM
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Men and women who automatically perceived men as more threatening or intimidating than women also had pro-female preferences, suggesting that negative male stereotypes can promote greater liking for women. And the feminist movement hasn't been a notorious legitimiser/promoter of negative male stereotypes? Not to mention encouraging women and girls to hold a general ingroup/outgroup "battle of the sexes" view of men and women (which I think is enough on it's own to explain the difference). I also…
/r/MensRights20/07/15 11:02 AM
2

It would be a bittersweet victory at best. It will be used for decades to support feminism's fake narratives, including this fake picture of equality being achieved solely by women standing up to men (and some men supporting them), and never the other way around. It's a revisionist whitewashing of the feminist movement (who's promotion of misandry over the last few decades is unignoreable and unforgiveable) and a character assassination of men. No, I'm not fully cool with it.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 09:53 AM
4

But then it will be hailed as a victory for feminism against "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights18/07/15 10:08 PM
2

I don't think this sub and theredpill can be compared.
/r/MensRights17/07/15 12:38 PM
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During one of the last two shitstorms this place was definitely brigaded. There's no way this comment would normally would have reached +22.
/r/MensRights17/07/15 12:18 PM
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I don't think it has been. At least not in the mainstream public consciousness. Which is probably a good thing, because that association would only have driven potential allies away. For example here in Ireland gay marriage was recently up for referendum. I don't remember any mainstream mentions of feminism or patriarchy or male hegemony in the debate (I did see a very tiny number on reddit/facebook), if there were they probably would have been counter-productive to the cause. I realise from lur…
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:19 PM
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Before any feminists come in and say how it all stems from misogyny. No, it doesn't. Lesbians are seen as voluntarily giving up inherent value to achieve full equal respect to men. A minor nuisance in the mind of the bigot seeing as it is a break in gender roles. Gay men are seen as trying to claim inherent value which as men they are not entitled to, which in the mind of the bigot is a much more subconsciously enraging an offence.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 03:20 PM
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Those articles were just scaremongering with anecdotal evidence, nothing objective to indicate rape was typical.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 07:17 PM
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You're saying porn actresses are typically raped at interviews? Either you've got an insane definition of rape, or you'll need a source to back up that claim.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 08:52 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean? Do gay guys have a reputation of being like that around sex? I would have thought the stereotype was the opposite, just read anything written about grindr.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 07:54 PM
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objectify "Objectification" is code for "I hold a sexist view of sex but am unwilling to admit it so I need a framework of mental gymnastics to justify my sexist feelings". Trying to discuss women's position of sexual superiority as a real social advantage with such a person is a lost cause.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 06:44 PM
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I know you probably didn't mean any harm by it, and it's part of everyday slang so it might be hard to stop, but using the word "gay" to mean "bad" is unwelcoming to gay people. There are gay guys on this sub and we could do better than to alienate potential allies. Not to mention the fact that the majority of gay guys are anything but sex-negative.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 05:30 PM
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This is actually a good stat regarding women's position of sexual superiority. That and women in porn earning more.
/r/MensRights08/07/15 04:12 PM
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What a self-hating internalised misogynist, a true victim of the patriarchy! /s
/r/MensRights01/07/15 08:33 PM
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Misandry has always existed and the feminist movement has always been a safe haven for it. Did most people who supported women getting the vote consider themselves "feminists"? Were women granted the vote under a belief in full equality, or was it a belief in "different but equal" (which is still completely compatible with strong gender norms)? As far as I can see (and I can't trust feminist accounts of the time), most women at the time didn't want to abolish gender roles (especially pro-female …
/r/MensRights28/06/15 07:38 PM
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Yeah but lesbians are butch and manly and thus need less protection (/s). Gays and lesbians pretty much get the worst of both worlds as far as gender norms are concerned. Don't expect too much.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 08:04 PM
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This is great! I would like to add there is an often ignored father's rights aspect to marriage equality. When it was up for referendum here in Ireland a significant chunk of no voters I spoke to were using maternal superiority as their justification for voting no. Ads and posters like this, and this became more common as the vote got closer. I'm glad their bigotry was firmly rejected by the electorate.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 06:00 PM
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Yes, which is exactly why men should pay for dates considering how much time + money she put into her appearance.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 10:56 PM
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Yeah but at least this involves some sort of shift away from the "have you cake and eat it too" double-standardist world feminism has previously basically been effectively campaigning for (without ever acknowledging it). I think the mrm is secretly being successful, of course feminists will never stop slandering mras, they will never ditch feminist theory nor they will ever stop whitewashing the recent history of their movement (or their own misandry), but male issues are being discussed by them…
/r/MensRights17/06/15 10:52 PM
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This indicates quite well the sorts of attitudes which are widely held and considered acceptable by an unignoreable portion of society. Don't let reddit feminists tell you these attitudes are only held by radicals or "straw feminists", this is as mainstream as you can get.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 06:48 PM
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Yep it's the great big sexism double standard, where overt sexism against women is off limits (with hair-trigger sensitivity) but overt sexism against men is either not a big deal or perhaps even justified. Added to this is another double-standard I've noticed a lot which derives directly from feminist theory : Messages promoting a more gender neutral lifestyle in women/girls tend to be positivie encouraging messages, whereas messages promoting a more gender neutral lifestyle in men/boys tend to…
/r/MensRights16/06/15 12:22 AM
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There are some inconveniences, but they can be worked around, you can just say "several key/influential feminists/feminist organisations have consistently ignored (and hidden) evidence that domestic violence is a two-way street". You may be asked for sources (off the top of my head : 1, 2, 3 - nomas being the male wing of NOW), which is a nuisance, but it makes for much better reading for anyone reading, and is also much more likely to change any fence-sitter's minds.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 10:33 PM
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Good post overall, but your jobs/healthcare analysis doesn't do mras justice - there are a whole plethora of issues involved on both sides. It's worth mentioning that there is zero evidence for the feminist "sexism is unidirectional male oppression" view, in fact there is evidence to the contrary : More entitled women support pro-female/anti-male sexism more, but not pro-male/anti-female sexism (despite the fact that feminist theory asserts that these women are "internalised misogynists" tricked…
/r/MensRights11/06/15 09:59 PM
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I know that /r/mensrights has a libertarian bias (due to the association of feminism with the left and traditionalism with conservatives) but as a left-leaning liberal I think that's a gross over-simplification. I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone but the most hard-core communist saying that people who put in more work shouldn't be rewarded as such. The real issue is that feminism relentlessly trivialises/ignores misandry. Feminist theory states that male disadvantages are nothing more…
/r/MensRights11/06/15 09:50 PM
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I highly doubt someone who says what he said is genuinely anti-sexist, or actually treats female colleagues as equals. I don't know wtf he was thinking. Sometimes the occasional thread here makes me not want to associate with this sub. I'll still come here because it's a great resource for getting news about the other side of the story feminism tries to block out. The quality of discussion in /r/feMRAdebates is much better though.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 12:01 PM
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I've had posts involving debates with feminists deleted from /r/askreddit and /r/askwomen for no apparent reason, no mod message or anything, they didn't show up as [deleted], they just weren't there. For /r/askwomen I wouldn't have realised if someone following the debate hadn't messaged me about posts on my userpage not showing up on /r/askwomen and for /r/askreddit had I not tried to check the post from the thread. Who knows how many more?
/r/MensRights11/06/15 11:41 AM
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There are definitely a lot of subs which would have to go first, but I wouldn't say never, who knows what direction reddit is going to go? It's not like people never make dumb/unpopular decisions due to their personal vision or to appease a vocal minority.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 11:11 PM
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I like this study. Not because I support gender norms, but it highlights how different people have different values, leading to different assessments of how fair/unfair gender norms are - something feminist theory fails to grasp, not least in it's statement that the male gender role is objectively more advantaged than the female one (despite the fact that no such objective judgement can logically be made).
/r/MensRights10/06/15 10:39 PM
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There is no doubt that there are people putting pressure for this sub to be banned. Vice called us a "hub of misogyny". There are people out there so koolaided that they literally can't make the distinction between anti-feminism and sexism (there was a feminist member of the European parliament who wanted to ban anti-feminism Europe-wide as "hate speech"). There's also the very occasional generalisation about women done for humour which slips through the net and doesn't get downvoted, the sort o…
/r/MensRights10/06/15 09:29 PM
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He surely knows how many people have this impression of every reasonably-paid male dominated field being a bastion of hegemonic sexism, an impression that a large number men in such fields want to keep women out of them. If it was a joke it was an incredibly dumb one, playing right into feminist's hands and advancing no cause other than the feminist vilification of men.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 08:57 PM
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This sub mostly welcomes diverse voices, as long as you don't try to say we should all be feminists/feminism is already addressing anti-male sexism, and as long as you don't try to trivialise/invalidate misandry you should be fine here. Personally I would consider myself more egalitarian than mra, but I still find this sub a great resource for getting that other side of the story which feminism tries to block out. We're a lot more moderate than avfm. I'm not going to pretend there isn't a trp pr…
/r/MensRights08/06/15 05:54 PM
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Thanks for this. I have a question. Was there a view at the time that the man being the abusive lord of the house was the norm in the not too distant past? I ask because there are instances of wife-beating/physical discipline in the media not being condemned like they would be nowadays (although I can't be sure how cherry-picked they are). I'm wondering what they were about if wife-beating wasn't actually seen as acceptable. I mean there's an obvious under-the-radar kinky answer, but I'm wonderi…
/r/MensRights08/06/15 10:40 AM
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I believe that morality is the glue which holds society together. I believe fostering cooperativeness is vital to the maintenance and advancement of civilisation. I think selfishness and hierarchicalism are the antithesis of this. The redpill philosophy is openly amoral. It is probably the most accepting place of hierarhicalism which exists online (not that redpillers are the most hierarchial people online, it's just that combination of hierarchicalism and self-honesty about their hierarchicalis…
/r/MensRights06/06/15 03:20 PM
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The "manosphere" was actually a self-described label by a group of interlinked blogger/wordpress blogs which grew out of the pua scene. It's actually iirc where the use of the term "red pill" originated. It's unfortunate, and I guess you're right, I should probably stop using that term (even if it's what they want to be used). I guess it's kind of like how all those radical feminists claimed to speak for all women, even though they clearly didn't. There definitely is a "femosphere" of interlinke…
/r/MensRights06/06/15 01:55 PM
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I could be wrong, but my impression of the 60s/70s is that women either had to claim to be pro-equality or pro-sexism. The golden age of double-standardism that the west (at least) has known since at least the 90s (where women are encouraged to expect (and even demand) the best of both worlds) built itself upon the successes of feminism in the 60s/70s and thus could not have existed before those successes had been achieved (because equality in areas that selfishly suit women wasn't secure enough…
/r/MensRights06/06/15 10:47 AM
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Saying egalitarian mras should align with redpillers/manosphere types is like saying feminists in the 70s should have aligned with old-fashioned conservative women who wanted to preserve female privilege.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 11:31 PM
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It's below zero. No reasonable person would think that post reflects the views of this sub.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 11:19 PM
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I can't get over how she declares "getting to know my children" to be a smaller dream she has gotten to realise as a result of her sacrifice. Not only that but she lists it second after "running my own business (without needing to make a profit)". What a cunt. I really feel sorry for her kids.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/06/15 08:10 PM
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Do you really think she deserves to be criminally sentenced? There's a difference between morally dubious behaviour and criminal behaviour. I don't consenting drunk sex should = rape.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 12:19 AM
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Reminds me of this.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 01:41 PM
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Imagine there was a community of conservative women who support old fashioned gender roles and have the single life goal of becoming a good housewife and mother and maintaining overall effective dominance relative to men. It wouldn't make much sense to insist that these women and the feminist movement should work together ftfy. looks like you've bought into fake feminist propaganda about old-fashioned women's demands of pro-female sexism and general endorsement of norms of "ladylikeness" not bei…
/r/MensRights27/05/15 01:02 PM
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Me too. Nice to be reminded the wider world has so many people (of both sexes) who are sick to death of feminism's misandric double standards.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 10:47 AM
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I'm not sure what your comment is saying... I mentioned both terms (I didn't mention sexual assault because I wasn't talking about it in my comment), because I think men are less likely to use them to describe less severe situations than women are.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 11:26 AM
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It's from a survey (see my other reply).
/r/MensRights19/05/15 10:23 AM
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We'd have to know what questions were asked in that survey. It's not hard to imagine a situation where men require a higher threshold before they'll describe a situation as "domestic violence" or "physical assault".
/r/MensRights19/05/15 10:19 AM
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I don't think non-white people have actual empathy/victimhood privelege relative to white people in the wider world like women do. Sure, committed sjws might have that emotional setup, but they're a minority of the actual real world, a real world which contains a large number of anti-minority racists aswell. Women's empathy/victimhood privelege is radically different because it's not only supported by feminists, but by every traditionalist aswell. I don't think anyone of any race can get away wi…
/r/MensRights17/05/15 01:08 PM
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Exactly. As several others have said in this thread it all comes back to the idea of "inherant" social value - i.e social value you don't need to "prove yourself" to get, which women have and men don't. Inherant value is more than just a baseline level of empathy, it is something which can be used to secure the effective submission of a man who has by all accounts "proven himself" (in practical, individual, competitive, risk-absorbing terms) to the world more than the woman in question. It is a …
/r/MensRights17/05/15 12:35 PM
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This rape hoax didn't involve any false accusations, so it's different from what is normally posted here.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 11:08 AM
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Would you be ok with your little sister being stuck in that situation? I would trust that she could say a clear, firm no (and even explicitly mention the word "rape" prior to any activity) if the sex was really going to be so apparently life-destroying as to be worthy of sending someone to jail and putting them the sex-offenders register for the rest of their lives.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 09:35 PM
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and suddenly it's all downvotes and getting called "he" and "it". Do you have examples? I'll agree that both movements are self-serving and have their crazies (hence the need for a neutral movement to cancel both out), but I think you'll find transphobic comments downvoted to oblivion when they happen here (which they do - they might also happen on feminist subs, but free speech tends not to be as strong, so they are deleted).
/r/MensRights06/05/15 08:43 PM
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So children are investments for the well being of the parent. The funniest part is that too many people will read this statement and not understand how it denies a child's right of independence and individuality. That's pretty much every traditionalistic culture.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 12:47 PM
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The EU actually banned gender discrimination in car insurance (after an extremely long amount of time tolerating it), this article is about the loophole insurance companies are now using - albeit in a way that rewards men in female-dominated careers and victimises women in male-dominated careers.
/r/MensRights04/05/15 11:14 AM
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I feel somewhat guilty about enjoying this story so much. I realise what feminists are going to think seeing it so highly upvoted. Then again, when you raise two generations of boys with this completely fake but enragingly widely believed message of women/girls being naturally egalitarian and cooperative and men/boys being naturally selfish and aggressive, what do you expect?
/r/MensRights03/05/15 09:46 AM
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That list just keeps getting longer, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights03/05/15 09:39 AM
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I don't think there's an insane lack of female sciencey characters in the media (and they tend not to be painted as being as socially-incapable as male ones). They might not be lead characters as much, but that's part of a larger problem of women not being lead characters as much. There's an undeniable trend that the more socially-removed a field is the less female interest there is. This afaic holds mostly true in STEM fields too. Why do biology-related fields have more female interest than phy…
/r/MensRights02/05/15 03:52 PM
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But gender studies really is nothing more than a sexist pro-female/anti-male circlejerk...
/r/MensRights02/05/15 02:17 PM
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The trickle down effects of feminist theory on wider western culture has lead to a situation where smug "girl power" double-standardism amongst women is rarely challenged from an anti-sexist point of view. I've got a better question : Why do the vast majority of discussions on achieving a more gender neutral world revolve around a positive encouraging message for women and girls and a negative shaming message for men and boys*? *and praising the "few good men" does not count as a non-shaming mes…
/r/MensRights01/05/15 01:12 PM
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So all these quotes are hidden behind a thin veil of deniability, does this change anything? It's not like feminists would tolerate the "I wasn't being serious" excuse for one second. And it's not like feminists don't relentlessly criticise writers of fiction for perceived misogyny at every turn. Tell me, what would people make of an anti-immigration activist who published "fiction" which strongly endorsed hatred for people of other ethnic groups?
/r/MensRights30/04/15 11:27 AM
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The Islamic State has executed 1,362 civilians, including 9 children and 19 women Holy fuck, what exactly is a boy who believes in equality supposed to think when he reads such reporting? How is he supposed to feel about the existence of feminism instead of neutral all-inclusive anti-sexism? Nobody here is trying to argue that ISIS are motivated by overall misandry, just that they're not motivated by overall misogyny (which is a very popular assumption). ISIS is extremely traditionalistic, which…
/r/MensRights30/04/15 11:13 AM
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"Illusory benevolence", which traditionally women seen as having, along with "illusory dominance" which traditionally men are seen as having. Both sexes on average go to great lengths to support what they are seen as having (men for competitive face-saving purposes, women for deniable aggression purposes) due to the differing demands of their gender roles. The take home point of both of these traditionalistic assumptions being that neither are actually true when you actually look at the whole pi…
/r/MensRights30/04/15 10:44 AM
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they disqualify other types of knowledge Gee, how do all these "straw feminists" keep ending up in positions of influence...
/r/MensRights28/04/15 09:02 AM
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I highly doubt the majority of daily mail readers actually want a more gender neutral world (for men or women). I'm always wary about their mra articles, like they just want to jump on anti-feminist bandwagon because they too hate feminism, just for the completely wrong reasons. That or their overall reasoning is just to publish anything they can (no matter how much the different articles contradict each other) just to get a cheap shots in at "liberals" and "leftys". That said : stiletto sexism …
/r/MensRights21/04/15 02:04 PM
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Not all women are horrible. Even some more of the more casual nominally "feminist" women are nice people, they've just never been confronted with the other side of the story, nor have they been shown the unavoidable toxicity of feminism (based on the fundamental uncriticiseable central axioms of feminist theory dogma). Don't let your own personal bad past experiences make you write off half the population.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 06:41 PM
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particularly if he does it out a misguided hope of impressing women with his honor. I don't think white knights are consciously aware of this hidden logic behind their psychology. Generally they just go around believing that women are morally superior to men and seeing the world through the feminist lens of "guilty male aggressor, innocent female victim", even if they might also see women as fundamentally less capable than men - basically the "delicate flower" view. I think traditionalism involv…
/r/MensRights17/04/15 05:51 PM
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Why not? Seems needlessly petty to me...
/r/MensRights10/04/15 04:50 PM
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Am I the only person here who is fully in favour of this? Seems like the logical anti-sexist position. I just wish feminists would see the glaring elephant in the room and apply that same logic to the name of their own movement.
/r/MensRights10/04/15 02:18 PM
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As said before "feminism is about equality for everyone".
/r/MensRights10/04/15 02:17 PM
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Society is moving towards being more gender neutral, the empathy gap is nothing like it was, even 10-15 years ago. Committed feminists aside, as women gain more respect, people are starting to take misandry and male victimhood more seriously. A portion of women make it to the top, but it's not equal (that said, in a perfectly fair world, there would be no top). Even in small scale social dynamics I think men generally subtly command more respect than women (at a cost to empathy in times of weakn…
/r/MensRights01/04/15 02:18 PM
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Men's strength is taken more seriously, women's weakness is taken more seriously. The higher up in the social ladder you are the more effective strength : weakness you will have and therefore the more overall advantage you will have as a male (which goes a long way to explaining "man up" culture" - endorsed by both sexes), the lower down in the social ladder you are the more the converse is true. I have been both at the very bottom and the very top of the social ladder. At the top I was definite…
/r/MensRights30/03/15 09:18 AM
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I would say you're probably hearing biased or worst-case individual (rather than society-wide) accounts. As I said elsewhere in this thread males of marginalised groups tend to be more marginalised/victimised than their female counterparts (due to the gender empathy gap), which includes increased racial/ethnic hostility. A false narrative of strange/unfamiliar "outgroup" men as a whole treating women/girls with inhumane cruelty falls perfectly in line with this. The "feminist" element of this fa…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 06:08 PM
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Well stick around (if you can stand getting crap for it) and explain that. I think in general men command more respect in terms of practical/competitive superiority. This will never go away untill the empathy gap goes away, which feminism isn't helping with.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 05:53 PM
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I know you'll disagree, but I would say women have more power in shaping social norms in most societies than you're giving them credit for. Men then acting according to those norms to victimise other men (with women's support) doesn't absolve women from their portion of the blame for creating that social environment. I would go as far as to say women's power to shape social norms averages out as equal to men's - It's just that in more violent, less civilised/policed cultures women tend to want s…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 05:37 PM
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Copying another post I made a while back (concering Islamic societies, but I'd say it can be generalised to all cultures mentioned): The more I look into Islamic misogyny the more I see of women supporting it, educated women no less. My guess is that in cultures where women have a glaring lack of rights compared to men they usually also have it much easier than men in a lot of ways -with the question of whether or not this pro-female/anti-male sexism balances out the pro-male/anti-female sexism …
/r/MensRights29/03/15 05:27 PM
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I'm definitely not saying female privilege is a really a disadvantage. I would say gender norms carry significant pros and cons for both sexes and how you ultimately weigh those pros and cons against each other is ultimately down to your own subjective values and experiences - and not a question of objective science (as feminist theory claims it to be - which btw makes feminist theory (and by extension mainstream social science in general) a pseudoscience). I generally try to stay as neutral and…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 05:17 PM
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The gender empathy gap (otherwise known as female empathy privelege - which I'm not denying women pay a significant price for) means that males of marginalised groups tend to be more marginalised/victimised than their female counterparts. I'm currently compiling a big list of evidence for this, but everything I've come across points in this direction - which btw, completely undermines feminist intersectionalist theory. Goes back to Warren Farrell's Idea of women having a glass ceiling but men ha…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 10:54 AM
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I'll never take a penis size study seriously untill it includes the angle they measure it at, seeing as length increases with the angle from the body - this is why penis enlargement surgery is actually just the severing of the tendon which keeps the penis pointing upwards. I can gain an inch on mine by having it at a ~90/120° angle from my body (however much I can push it down without it being uncomfortable) instead of 0° (flat against my stomach).
/r/MensRights04/03/15 12:39 PM
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Effacing the male. Doesn't fit the view the media wants to portray - plus men don't get the sympathy women do due to the gender empathy gap. The more I look into Islamic misogyny the more I see of women supporting it, educated women no less. My guess is that in cultures where women have a glaring lack of rights compared to men they usually also have it much easier than men in a lot of ways -with the question of whether or not this pro-female/anti-male sexism balances out the pro-male/anti-female…
/r/MensRights04/03/15 11:37 AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, all the evidence points towards a situation where it is the males of disadvantaged groups who get the most shit and the least acceptance from society in general. Which btw, completely demolishes feminist intersectional theory. Of course, when some of them act out because of their position it legitimises the majority's views, perpetuating the cycle.
/r/MensRights22/02/15 12:45 PM
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If I don't know the guy, probably nothing, I'd just cringe inside. Seeing those posts on reddit I used to think "ugh, white knights" and downvote, after lurking in srs and realising how many women see this behaviour as somehow misogynistic, I'm almost tempted to upvote just to piss them off. If I do know the guy : As a teenager - when girls' sexual value relative to their male peers is at it's peak, and when I was less aware of all the shit women face I probably would have said (if the girls wer…
/r/MensRights17/02/15 10:47 AM
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Excellent article. Cross-posted to to /r/egalitarianism and /r/oneY.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 12:03 PM
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Agreed, but people should be criticised for unasked for criticism of other people's bodies.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 09:57 AM
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I encourage women vocally appreciating men's attractiveness, but I discourage men from the same thing. Not because of any feminist bullshit of "objectification", but in order to combat male sexual valueless and female sexual supremacy - i.e dudes, have some self-respect and start putting a price on your sexuality, stop defeatedly accepting your role as the sexual beggar, don't chase women, if you do things right you really can have them chase you (trust me) - and once you've received enough genu…
/r/MensRights16/02/15 09:43 AM
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yay misogyny \o/! /s.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 09:48 PM
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The same reason they would downvote someone for someone saying they're a feminist. Personally imho, despite my misgivings about feminism, If I'm being honest, religion is definitely the more toxic of the two, so I can understand the sentiment - and my response to more moderate believers is not too different from my response to more moderate/reasonable feminists. Also, as a left-leaning liberal, I hate the feminist characterisation of this sub as a pro-traditionalist conservative space (i.e same …
/r/MensRights13/02/15 09:34 PM
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Yeah, but he actually really fucked up there, so not the most amazing example :D. Also, does the white house not have spare beds?
/r/MensRights03/02/15 04:09 PM
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Anyone actually know if men having to sleep on the couch is an actual thing outside of tv/movies? The implication that women have rightful authority/ownership of the bed has always pissed me off (if the cultural norm was that women have to sleep on the couch after an argument there'd be obvious uproar), but I've never known to what extent this actually happens in real life...
/r/MensRights03/02/15 02:26 PM
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/r/MRRef
/r/MensRights29/01/15 01:19 PM
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Point out the double-standard but don't make a big deal of it... hopefully you'll make them realise women are selfishly upholding sexism just as much as men.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 05:40 PM
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Your very first question was why so many of us spend so much time bashing feminism (which many of us would see as a major barrier to achieving actual equality). We answered that question, by explaining our misgivings about the feminist movement (and the word feminism itself). You got exactly what you asked for and now you're giving out about it? I never said that pro-gay and pro-trans comments sink to the bottom (they don't), I said that anti-trans comments sink to the bottom (anti-gay comments …
/r/MensRights25/01/15 11:38 AM
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Threads like this from new accounts pop up quite frequently. There's a huge ongoing smear campaign against this sub, we're not anything like you've probably been told. The feminist movement as a whole functions to blame/shame men and absolve women for everything. At best the feminist movement does nothing to reduce anti-male stereotypes, at worst it re-enforces them more than anyone else (from mainstream feminist organisations, to mainstream academia, to mainstream media to and crucially regular…
/r/MensRights24/01/15 05:13 PM
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"Because women are children and can't take responsibility" You realise those posts are satirical, right? Based on feminism's willingness to dispense with any idea of female agency if it could possibly help to advance their man-blaming/shaming agenda. I've seen these posts mis-interpreted by those who WANT this sub to be full of misogynist redpill types, rather than just egalitarians with serious misgivings about feminism. Perhaps there should be a mod warning about adding /s to satircal posts.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 12:55 PM
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If you hang around here long enough you definitely will see transphobic comments. What you will also see is that they're without fail hidden at the bottom, downvoted into oblivion. I think that fact makes this subreddit's overall stance on trans rights pretty clear. Also : mras generally don't try to appropriate the victimhood of other groups like feminism does.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 02:06 PM
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Who kills most children and partners? It's true it's men. Is it? http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2002/03/when_parents_kill.html Crime statistics further reveal that of the children under 5 killed from 1976 to 1999, 30 percent were murdered by their mothers while 31 percent were killed by their fathers http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21620158 In this bi-national register-based study all filicide perpetrators (75 mothers and 45 fathers) and their crimes in Austria and F…
/r/MensRights20/12/14 07:36 PM
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Gender norms are a lot more strongly/rigidly upheld in more traditionalistic societies. Imho misandry is almost definitely worse in the middle east than in the west (even if misogyny is obviously a lot worse too).
/r/MensRights21/11/14 11:41 AM
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She very clearly expects men to risk all the rejection if they ever want to get with her. So it's basically : "I'm totally not sexist, because I'm cool with you know, other people who want to step outside of the traditional view of dating, I'm just not personally going to". Bitch, you either support gender norms through your behaviour or you don't. You can't go around supporting pro-female norms and expect it not to add to men's overall support for pro-male norms. Switching between supporting ge…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 11:18 AM
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For the record, the vast majority of trans people report exactly the opposite. Make of what what you will. I remember reading somewhere that transwomen recieve more trans-specific discrimination than transmen. To me this would indicate that people want to keep men out of the female role more than women out of the male role, which to me would indicate that female priveleges (even if they do come with huge, well known costs) are more strongly protected than male ones and are perhaps the real drivi…
/r/MensRights23/09/14 11:10 PM
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Women who aggressively support pro-female/anti-male norms while railing against pro-male/anti-female norms are self-hating internalised misogynists. Men who support pro-female/anti-male norms while railing against pro-male/anti-female norms are selfish misogynistic power players. Wut? Feminist theory 101. Derp de derp.
/r/MensRights21/09/14 01:09 PM
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They just don’t make ‘em like they used to. These are the same women who'll cry sexism whenever it selfishly suits them. Try the "oh I see you're into gender roles" game, and then when it comes time for your sexist male priveleges (or just any chance to act like the "dominant male") suddenly they're all : "Hey. It's not the 50s anymore!". Sure, most of these "double-standardists" might not call themselves feminists (although a lot do) but their attitudes are a direct result of the trickle-down e…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 07:42 PM
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Or the counter-balancing male sexist privileges have disappeared making these actions self-respectless supplication.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 07:36 PM
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Feminism didn't cause it, it just kept it going while arguing for equality in areas that selfishly benefit women.
/r/MensRights31/08/14 10:11 AM
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I really like the idea that men's issues are the fourth wave of feminism. If only everyone could agree to that. I really don't. Let's look at the story again (and lets call the reds who wanted to see the penguins "redists" - and stretch the analogy a bit): The oppression of the blues was systemically ignored, while everyone focused on the injustice faced by the reds, and the redists attacked and vilified the blues (blaming them for the oppression of the reds), further increasing the general inju…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 02:43 AM
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To me it implies an unreciprocated unidirectional problem of men not having respect for women rather than a bidirectional problem of some members of both sexes not having respect members of the opposite sex (and these people are imo probably the same people who tend to just have low respect for other people in general). Just another part of the feminism-peddled "guilty male aggressor/innocent female victim" trope which is imo bought into by most of society, largely because it fits into tradition…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 10:23 PM
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Sorry for the late reply, I had tons of tabs open at once. As I said in my previous comment, the percentage of the brain (or even the percentage of the neocortex) they found to correlate with iq was so small it either means the study is next to useless (i.e their results were a false positive "signal" in a vast sea of unpredictable noise, and therefore unlikely to be replicable), or iq as a measure of intellectual ability is completely useless (or I guess you could say that intellectual ability …
/r/MensRights13/08/14 08:53 AM
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Hi! There's not really much of an mrm yet to rival feminism for there to be an extensive store of articles. Just a loose collection of blogs and discussion posts. There is avfm, but while some of their articles are balanced and reasonable, they often post stuff related to parts of the "mrm" which only add to negative stereotypes of anti-feminist anti-sexists as misogynistic lunatics. Most people here try not to go down the feminist route of appropriating the disadvantage of other groups, we're a…
/r/MensRights08/08/14 08:42 PM
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She rolls her eyes as she says it, make up your own mind : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cjuvnVBzlo Not on the same level as Barrack Obama's : "Women can do everything the boys can do, and do it better, and do it in heels", which was met not with outrage but with wild cheering and applause.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 10:16 PM
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By sexist you mean against men specifcally?
/r/MensRights03/08/14 12:17 AM
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Relevant : http://www.np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2b1x6o/marriage_counselors_of_reddit_has_a_couple_ever/cj10h6x
/r/MensRights31/07/14 10:32 PM
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I assume your grey/white matter comment is about the myth that men have 6.5 times more grey matter and women have 10 times more white matter? It's bullshit btw and it pisses me off because it's quoted so widely. People have been cutting up brains for examination for hundreds of years, if this insane sex difference was true it would be so immediately obvious no argument about equality would have ever been able to get off the ground (a brain with 6.5 times more grey matter and 10 times less white …
/r/MensRights28/07/14 09:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure most people on this sub are pretty socially liberal (much like the rest of reddit), be they on the right or on the left (I'm going to be an annoying non-american and insist that libertarians are just pro-capitalist liberals). Actual full-on conservatism I'm pretty sure is the minority position here (afterall, traditionalism is definitely not any better than feminism for ending sexism against men/boys). Here's the results from a non-compromised poll ran here a while back: http://i…
/r/MensRights19/07/14 10:37 PM
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Doesn't the whole idea of "intersectionality" mean that feminism believes both exist at the same time?
/r/MensRights08/07/14 11:08 PM
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It's actually very mensrights. Think about where the blame in the title is. Men's problems are mens' fault and are used to deride maleness and masculinity, women's problems are treated much more sympathetically and if not ultimately blamed on men are at least blamed on society in general or some subcomponent of our culture. The use of women's problems to deride femaleness and femininity does not happen anywhere near as much, and on the very rare occasions that it does feminists are up in arms im…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 10:04 PM
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Men tend to be over-represented at the highest levels of ability/achivement even in areas where there is no average difference (or even a slight average advantage in favour of women), this includes areas where ability is completely standardised (and therefore free from subjective biases), such as the classic example of ability to score highly in iq tests. The most likely reason for this is the fact that typically, men are more sexually rewarded for very high ability/achievement than women, creat…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 08:58 PM
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So your post got 7 upvotes and mine got none. Not to be petty, but why don't people here agree with the idea that one of the wider effects of feminism on female culture has been a fostering of a greater ingroup/outgroup "battle of the sexes" view of male/female relations?
/r/MensRights15/06/14 11:48 AM
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Sounds like Warren Farrell. http://www.salon.com/2001/02/06/farrell/
/r/MensRights15/06/14 10:37 AM
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Every large thread always has one or two trolls espousing pro-sexist/homophobic views at the bottom. The fact that these views are at the bottom shows that they are disagreed with by the majority of posters here, which should (in theory) help to dispel feminist lies about the views of posters here. If they weren't downvoted they would be used as feminist ammo, if they were removed this would no longer be a free speech space.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 08:16 PM
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Can't believe nobody has mentioned the obvious. It starts with f and ends with ism.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 01:00 PM
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My impression is that because there aren't as many instances of rape towards men as there are for women, members of the subreddit are eager to jump on the victim train as a means of highlighting the fact that we too can be raped. Your analysis is 100% correct.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:47 PM
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The "and I remember her being particularly flirty" comes directly after the the "we caught up and all that" (as part of the same sentence, with no other qualifiers), implying a direct logical/chronological link between the two statements (with the beginning of the "catching up" happening before his recognition of her flirting). The two statements are joined with "and" - "we caught up and all that and I remember her being particularly flirty." explicitly linking the two together, again, in that v…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 11:11 AM
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The friend admits that he's not certain the guy was unconscious. The fact that the friend's after-the-fact certainty is increasing over time should set off immediate alarm bells. I'm presuming it was a brief glance. Lying back while receiving a blowjob isn't that weird, neither is closing your eyes. Really what the friend should have done is intervened and found out if the guy was awake or not. In fact, the fact that he didn't intervene to me implies that it didn't actually look enough like the …
/r/MensRights27/04/14 10:22 AM
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If he can't remember, then he can't be 100% sure he was raped. If he wasn't passed out (a possibility he acknowledges) then there's a good chance he wasn't. Bear in mind he used to have feelings for her - they could have resurfaced. People have done dumber things while drunk (of course he's going to tell himself now that he'd never do such a thing), it also seems likely from the story that she was pretty out of it too... If I was his fiancee I'd believe him, I'm not sure a court of law should th…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:07 AM
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That's really shitty advice. Imagine a feminist saying that social workers should always believe everything a woman tells them.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 06:20 PM
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Care to elaborate about the "feminism control" you were fighting? I'm genuinely interested in the influence of feminism on social work. Are there people in your class (or teaching) who seem to operate with a default assumption of male guilt/female innocence, or male power/female powerlessness?
/r/MensRights21/04/14 06:14 PM
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I would consider that part of current cultural female aggression (which is largely shaped by the existence of men), I think this too would likely change in a world without men.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 11:31 AM
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Adding to this : Please interpret anger in a gender neutral way. People naturally interpret male anger as being a lot more threatening (especially anyone with either a traditionalist or a feminist "patriarchy" mindset), please try not to do this. I remember reading the experience of a transman on reddit, and one of the things he noticed after transitioning was his mother started reacting somewhat with fear whenever he got angry or raised his voice, which she had never done before, even though fr…
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:38 AM
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The thing about violence is that for a woman, adding social legitimacy to the use of violence is a very dumb move, in fact, helping to advance very strong negative views on the use of violence (and particularly violence against women) is very much the prudent thing to do. This of course involves some degree of practicing what you preach. Without men, this logic becomes much less strong. In fact, when the strongest women start realising they can use their physical superiority to win conflicts the…
/r/MensRights20/04/14 09:47 PM
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Yet another example of the widespread sexism double-standard in the media of the last 20 years (i.e sexist attitudes against women are one of the worst things in the world, but sexist attitudes against men are a-ok). Imagine the outrage if it was an article saying that men are superior and the world would be better off without women, if only for the fact that they'd be missed for sentimental reasons. I get that this article is supposed to be funny, but it's the exact sort of "joke" which wouldn'…
/r/MensRights20/04/14 06:06 PM
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Not american, so maybe I'm misunderstanding the two parties, but I definetely wouldn't see a retreat back into conservative gender traditionalism as any sort of solution to feminism's one-sided misandric approach to equality. When it comes to stances outside the core aim of the party, politicians don't lead, they follow. This article demonstrates as much. You can't really blame politicians too much for pandering to public opinion, it's an unavoidable part of the democratic proccess. If the situa…
/r/MensRights18/04/14 10:41 PM
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Having your wife raped and killed by a psychopath on her way home from a night out then having it splashed all over the media, then being forced to re-imagine it on a regular basis by that same media can't be easy...
/r/MensRights18/04/14 08:49 PM
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Thank you for wording that so perfectly!
/r/MensRights12/04/14 12:36 PM
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Don't you see? If the mrm is destroyed whilst taking down feminism, and the void is filled with an actually gender neutral anti-sexism movement, with actually ending sexism as it's primary aim (rather than preserving a circlejerk based around blaming the opposite sex for everything wrong in the world), most here would probably consider that a victory.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 10:27 PM
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The idea that there exists in society a specific unidirectional problem of men not having respect for women (and not a bidirectional problem of members of both sexes not having respect for the opposite sex) has always been a prime example of feminism embracing those aspects of the traditionalist view which paint women positively and men negatively - ultimately advancing the "guilty male/innocent female" trope and denying male victimhood from sexism (particularly sexist attitudes held by women/gi…
/r/MensRights31/03/14 09:56 PM
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Doing something deeply meaningful and fulfilling with your life (i.e getting to raise your children every step of the way) vs getting your soul crushed in the capitalist meat grinder day after day? Hmmm..... idk.... it's such a tough one... /s.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 11:03 PM
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I'd like to think I'd love my future wife too much to be capable of being happy with her getting such a shitty end of the deal...
/r/MensRights20/03/14 08:28 PM
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I feel like these pics are supposed to prove some sort of point, but I'm really (genuinely) confused as to what it is... As a guy, I have absolutely no problem with these images. If women get off looking at bulges beneath mens' pants, more power to them!
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:56 PM
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I'm not sure how constructive it is for this sub to upvote fringe feminist beliefs. Imo it detracts from our highlighting of the very real problems caused by more mainstream feminist ideas.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 08:49 PM
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If you haven't read Stephen Pinker's "The blank slate" you should. And if you are going to read that you should consider first reading Richard Dawkins' "The selfish gene". "The better angels of our nature" also by Stephen Pinker, and Patricia Churchland's "Braintrust" are two relevant books I intend to read soon. Paul Zak's "The moral molecule" you should probably avoid. Sam Harris' "The moral landscape" might be worth considering, the philosophical argument is dubious, but the section on free w…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 11:07 PM
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I don't disagree that most feminists have a grossly inaccurate view of most mras, but mra arguments are surely also "liberal-style" arguments (based on appeals to liberty, fairness and care/harm, without including appeals to authority, purity or group-loyalty - like a conservative argument would - because liberals (including most mras) see these arguments as fallacious - even if they are the instinctual way of looking at morality). tl,dr : I don't think "moral modules" are the reason feminists d…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 03:57 PM
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If the whole thing was comedic satire then surely they would have made the female characters more over the top in their behaviour - there was too much of a tone of seriousness to make their behaviour in any way funny. If you're right about the sketch fitting into the context of the show, surely the audience would have laughed at the womens' statements? I've only seen one episode of girls, so maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that people were only supposed to laugh at the guy.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 02:50 PM
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I wasn't taking exception to Haidt's theory, just your statement that those opposed to mras tend to be on the left. Btw, I'm actually already somewhat familliar with Haidt's work, he says that liberal arguments don't appeal to as many innate moral sentiments as conservative ones, in particular : authority, purity and ingroup-loyalty. The thing is, mra arguments don't really appeal to those sentiments either*, so I don't think it's THIS that's stopping feminists from seeing the mra point of view.…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 02:21 PM
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The idea of equality for men is just as fiercely opposed (if not moreso) by traditionalists as by feminists. MRAs spend most of their time giving out about feminism because it has completely and utterly dominated the "equality" side of the debate for decades (which is enraging because it so blatantly falls short of actual egalitarianism).
/r/MensRights09/03/14 12:59 PM
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Amazing empathy there, feminism. Instead of trying to educate this guy as to why he's wrong they make fun of him because his appearance supposedly makes him completely undesirable, how they all want massive muscular men. Nice to see this coming from the same people who complain about attractiveness standards placed on women. I mean, this guy is blatantly at the bottom of the social pile, you'd think they'd have some empathy (being all about social equality), but because he's a man they make fun …
/r/MensRights09/03/14 12:29 PM
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If you need an example here's one from today! http://femen.org/uploads/images/thumbs/7Rg9B1I9DP.jpg
/r/MensRights08/03/14 11:31 PM
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So she says this : As a feminist, it can be really hard to find something to wear. or American Apparel's coming out with another sexist ad campaign, it seems like everywhere you look there's fabulous clothing you can't stomach to buy. And then proceeds to link to a bunch of t-shirts made by American Apparel She even manages to fail on the first one..... <sup>American</sup> <sup>Apparel</sup> <sup>Unisex</sup> <sup>Tank</sup> I'm sure there is method in that madness..... somewhere...
/r/MensRights27/02/14 11:57 PM
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we need a more nuanced approach to prostitution, which punishes men who treat women's bodies as a commodity, without criminalizing those who are driven into sex work, said Mary Honeyball who drafted the resolution. Yeah, this legislation was totally driven by genuine egalitarians /s.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 11:32 PM
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It is. This thread is a disgrace to the MRM.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 10:58 PM
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I hate feminism as much as anyone in here, but the endorsement of sexism in this thread makes me not want to associate with this place, which is a pity, because this sub is one of the most amazing counter-feminist resources there is. Every psychological difference between the sexes is an average difference with huge amounts of overlap between the sexes, there is also no evidence as to how much or how little these differences can be reduced. Gender roles and sexist prejudice are oppressive and ma…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 10:24 PM
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Holy fuck. Why am I not seeing this traditionalist bigotry downvoted? Isn't fighting the stereotype of maternal superiority one of central, formative aims of the MRM, and why it was necessary for genuine egalitarians to break away from feminism? I am sickened by what I am seeing in this thread. I strongly suspect an invasion, but a part of me is afraid that maybe feminist subs were right about the average /r/MensRights goer (or at least those that come into threads once they're upvoted enough to…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 10:18 PM
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Compare and contrast with "how dare you ever invalidate my feelings".
/r/MensRights10/02/14 11:57 PM
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"Rejection hurts, but your feelings are your responsibility." Wow. Just fucking WOW. You don't like it when women jump at the chance to assert their superiority (and by extension, your inferiority) right as you've just taken the huge risk of putting yourself in a position of huge vunreability to them? A position of such vunreability that those same women do everything they can to avoid, and are so successful in their efforts that as a man you might have little other choice than to put yourself i…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 11:55 PM
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Yes. I mean no! Mra's are pure evil misogynists who want things to go back to how they were in the 50's.....
/r/MensRights07/02/14 08:13 PM
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I heard about this too and would be very interested in a source.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 08:01 PM
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Can anyone who watched this provide a synopsis? Who made what points etc... not sure if it's worth 30mins of my time...
/r/MensRights30/01/14 01:03 AM
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Feminism is one of the major barriers to achieving equality for both sexes, but particularly for men and boys.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 09:55 PM
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Yeah, but the difference is that one is entirely men's fault whereas the other is entirely men's fault....
/r/MensRights26/01/14 11:05 PM
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"Fedora wearing neckbeard" just means "very low status and lacking in the most basic social intelligence", it's applied in a derogatory way to both mras and whiteknights (despite being polar opposites of each other). The real victims are the actual fedora wearing neckbeards themselves. It's extremely interesting (from a sociological point of view) that online feminists should spend so much time making fun of powerless losers rather than, you know, the men with actual power they might actually ha…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 11:59 PM
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Not since feminism...
/r/MensRights18/12/13 10:49 PM
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There are predispositional differences. It doesn't mean that the right cultural conditions can't negate them. Also, afaik, those differences aren't as great as these ones are being claimed to be.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:54 PM
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The differences only become apparent after puberty. There's no evidence that these differences are genetically set in stone.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 10:39 PM
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I do think it's probably a genetic bias, but I do think it can be over-ridden. I'm pretty confident that I have. I thought /r/MensRights was against such sex-based preferential treatment. This is the exact sort of thing the whole concept of "male disposability" is about.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:37 PM
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The section "Changing Our Best Instincts: Protecting Women, Mothering Children" for one. I quit after reading it so I don't know about the rest... She says that men who don't have a special protective instinct towards women are rightly called brutes (I mean, no-one's arguing that men should protect women less than they'd protect men of the same size/strength, just that they shouldn't protect them any more).
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:27 PM
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This article is pretty sexist. I thought /r/mensrights was an egalitarian sub... Btw, I do agree that men and women should be judged according to the same standard, which would probably not leave many women in combat roles, so maybe the only difference would be an intellectual one, but I still think that's important. I also think soldiers in more dangerous roles should be paid more (I'm not in a country with much of an army, so I'm not sure if this happens).
/r/MensRights20/11/13 10:48 PM
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Oh, but sex-negative feminists are only a minority who don't represent mainstream feminism at all.... /s.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 06:26 PM
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The "men's rights" label will never be respectable. The best we can hope for is to highlight the toxicity of feminism enough so all but the most blatant of fem-bigots abandon it. Irl I think "mras" would be best calling themselves egalitarians or humanists or something else non gender-warrior-y.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 10:24 AM
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Let's see what our feminist comrades have to say about this... One local group that has spoken out about the incident is Hollaback Appalachian Ohio, which advocates against what it describes as a pervasive "rape culture." A spokesperson for the group said Tuesday that however the prosecutor and a grand jury might describe the Oct. 23 incident, "we would still consider this a sexual assault." I see, "guilty untill proven innocent". Interesting... Sarah Fick of Hollaback said group members are "ve…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:04 PM
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Nice generalisations.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 12:57 PM
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or have no collective name and just call yourself an egalitarian.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 12:20 PM
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I agree it's how humans work, but believe it or not, proof of this is a massive blow to feminist theory. If women and girls actively promote and enforce sexism when it suits them - then you're left with a bi-directional view of sexism (which most in this sub support). Under this bi-directional view, you can have sexism without "patriarchy", hurting both sexes in different ways. Feminist theory says that sexism cannot be anything other than a system of male dominance, all sexism is misogyny, misa…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 01:45 PM
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Who'd want to deal with that shit if given a good enough alternative like that? Someone who goes around preaching about equality 24/7 and is not a hypocrite? Just a guess...
/r/MensRights23/10/13 01:22 PM
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I fully support male political homosexuality. Deal with it!
/r/MensRights19/10/13 06:29 PM
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Have a read of this. Some of it's disagreeable, but it's well written and highly scientifically based (it's neither mra nor feminist). It should help you explain gender roles without necessitating "patriarchy", explain how sexism hurts both sexes in different ways and how men can have it both better and worse than women at the same time.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:20 AM
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Just because a guy had sex with you doesn't mean he owes you any future social interactions. Amidoinitrite? :D
/r/MensRights16/10/13 06:39 PM
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Really interesting. Thanks OP. Once a guy catcalls me, depending on the situation, I would either candidly take their photograph or walk up to them and ask if I can take their photograph. They usually agree and we talk about our lives as I make their portrait. The fact that most of these men were perfectly happy to cooperate in having their picture taken kind of disproves the notion that most men who catcall do so out of misogynistic aggression rather than (misplaced) friendliness. Surely the ph…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 06:00 PM
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I think it fits more into their overall philosophy of trollism than anything else (that negative karma)...
/r/MensRights15/10/13 10:29 PM
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Overall hoax. See my comment below.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:51 PM
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http://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=tpBUZLBWldc
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:39 PM
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It's fake btw.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 06:17 PM
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In case you didn't know, the woman fronting this campaign modeled for Esquire once. "I am very aware that I have at times in my career been part of the problem and not part of the solution, and as I have got older I have tried to correct that,"
/r/MensRights15/10/13 04:13 PM
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Look, I have no time for lad's mags. All gendered media is retarded. But sexuality is a natural, healthy part of being human and men happen to be more visual than women. Enjoying sexually arousing images of the sex you're attracted to isn't sexism. Wtf is this shit? Look, they're bikini clad! BIKINIS!! You'd swear this was the 1950s. Once again, feminism shows it's true sex-negative colours.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 02:38 PM
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This isn't the same OP as the other thread.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:32 AM
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Well there are plenty of people who are raised without a mother/father who end up fine, so it's clearly not an absolute necessity.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 04:33 PM
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I hope you don't mind me proposing some changes, sorry if you find this overly critical: remove hypergamy, gynocentrism, the sisterhood and having it all - seriously, you're shooting yourself in the foot with these :\. remove the reproductive rights one (don't expect feminists to agree on the male opt-out/abortion demand thing, it's more complicated than simple sexism) change the circumcision one to "legally protected against childhood genital mutilation" Change the drugs and alcohol ones. You c…
/r/MensRights14/10/13 10:28 AM
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I remember reading that Wisconsin does, but I can't find any better source than some blog copies of a now deleted news article: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wisconsin_makes_sex_while_drinking_a_crime/ EDIT: http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/sexual-assault.asp Wisconsin law defines second degree sexual assault as any of the following criminal acts: Sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person known to be intoxicated, known to be unconscious, or known to suffer from diminished capac…
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:52 PM
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I'm not in favour of single parenthood at all (unless there really is no other choice). I just don't think the parents' sex has to be important.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 07:35 PM
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The poster in that comment says that it is considered rape according to the legal definition, but doesn't endorse the law in it's current form. Drunk one-night stands are by legal definition sexual assault. . There is something wrong with the legal definition of sexual assault that needs to be changed. Like she says, it's bullshit. I think OP was talking about this thread. I'm not saying the thread was a troll/invasion, but I have to say I'm surprised at the consensus in it.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 07:22 PM
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I agree with your first paragraph, but your second one is pretty sexist. Fathers don't need to be special to deserve to be seen as equal to mothers. I'm not saying fathers and mothers aren't on average better at different aspects of parenting, but I don't see why a dedicated parent can't become good at it all.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 07:04 PM
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