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Regardless of whether your goal is to get married and have a family, I still find it helpful to meet and date several women before that happens. That helps you recognize the qualities you're looking for in a woman, the dynamic you want to establish and the red flags to avoid. You don't have to be promiscuous to achieve this, but having had a few relationships can be a great help to a man.
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:51 AM
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All women do not have casual encounters, especially the high value ones who are the ones who can really aspire to a good lifestyle and have suitors with status. The social cost is much higher.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/24 08:58 PM
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What you said that women don't care about status made your whole comment lose credibility. Status is by far the biggest advantage a man can have in the dating market. It overshadows anything. You don't need millions of dollars to date attractive women, but what he is talking about is a more specific niche, which is women with a solid social class and educational background. High value women don't usually date average men, which is totally fair. Women like Neri Oxman, Marina Granovskaia or Dasha …
/r/seduction07/02/24 11:34 PM
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I'm one of those who think that people who do these kinds of loyalty tests are not really afraid of losing the person they are with. Do you think a woman who is in a relationship with a highly desirable man could be in that position? If your partner was a billionaire or an entertainment star, would you tell your girlfriends to flirt with him to test his loyalty?
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/24 10:50 PM
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Today it is a traditional dating site, that's why it changed its name. Many people still use it for the purpose of making arrangements, but many others use it to get better quality people than on other dating sites. That's why I said it takes time to filter.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/24 09:26 PM
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There are many men both conservative and progressive who want a woman who will stay at home, but not all can afford it, so the main barrier is financial, not political. You also have to remember that many men who are at a level of financial abundance are already engaged, so your candidate should be someone who has potential that you decide to go along for the ride, or a man who is already accomplished, but in this case you would be "competing" with many more women. But to answer your question di…
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/24 11:01 AM
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For me it's a high number, but I assign more importance to that than other men. It's also not something catastrophic that will prevent you from getting a partner in the future.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/23 08:41 PM
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My only advice is don't mention it unless you are asked, and if you are asked, don't lie about it. There are men who care and men who don't, so if you consider the number of sexual partners you've had to be high, stick to dating men who don't make a big deal out of it rather than those who do and will be upset if they hear the truth. It's not fair to be with someone who will judge you harshly for your past, just as it's not fair to lie about it to someone who considers it important.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/23 08:01 PM
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The sexual past is a fairly accurate indicator of certain values and views regarding relationships. Few high-value men will want to devote time, effort and attention to a woman when others have achieved the same level of intimacy by offering much less. That said, it really depends on where you live, the man's values and views regarding relationships. In my case, I'm very unlikely to ask that question unless a woman really interests me for a long term relationship, and I wouldn't be interested in…
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/23 07:33 PM
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I'm not saying you do, but most people when they cheat exhibit behavioral changes like the one you just mentioned. You have a right to want to work on yourself, take care of your image and get out of your comfort zone, but you need to make sure you know if you want your boyfriend to be part of this process or you just aren't compatible enough.
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/23 12:56 PM
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You want to travel alone for Valentine's Day to perhaps the European equivalent of Las Vegas right after you start worrying about your image after a long time. Your boyfriend is right to be upset. These are all behavioral changes of a woman who is cheating or at least preparing for bachelorhood.
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/23 12:22 PM
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To say that you have no control over your number of sexual partners is simply ridiculous. The sexual past is a fairly accurate indicator of certain values and views regarding life and relationships. It is objectively true that most men will actively try to avoid establishing long-term relationships with promiscuous women, for biological and social reasons. Women who are perceived as easily accessible are considered less desirable in every society that exists..
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/23 03:16 AM
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The hierarchy of preferences between men and women is very different, and this should be a known fact by now. Many men simply do not want to have a relationship with a woman with a history of promiscuous or casual sex, and others will not care.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/23 10:24 AM
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Lying about your sexual past as a woman is the equivalent of a man lying about his financial situation. It is not fair to the other person and sooner or later it will be discovered.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/23 06:23 AM
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You really have to be skeptical of the idea of taking data from an app like Tinder as a true representation of the world, as it is totally distorted by incentives and the high value men and women are not there. I mean, on Tinder, over 70% of users are men, while on Seeking, a luxury dating app, 75% of users are women. Hypergamy is quite real, but it doesn't work that way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/23 06:01 PM
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"All women cheat if given the chance" Honestly this is bullshit, and I stopped reading until here. There are plenty of good and genuinely loyal women, that's literally why the stage exists to get to know the woman and be able to spot her red flags and problematic behaviors. Infidelity, whether between men or women is common, but not the norm.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/23 05:54 PM
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Honestly this is just silly. As a general rule, truly successful men marry women who prefer traditional gender roles, but not gold diggers motivated solely by money and lifestyle, like this girl. The woman desired by the high-value man is more like Dasha Zhukova (former ex-wife of Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich) or Ivanka Trump than Kim Kardashian. Women who add real value to their lives, business and relationships and will fulfill a good mothering role for their children.
/r/MensRights27/10/23 06:33 AM
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There are also many attractive men who are cheated on by their wives with men with much more money. What you call sexual attraction is really lust, and it is triggered in multiple ways. A billionaire or a music star walks into a room and is going to get more female attention than any other man, regardless of how attractive he is. The man who has probably had relationships with the most beautiful women in the world is Marc Anthony, and no one could attribute it to his physical beauty. It's a comb…
/r/MensRights22/10/23 11:01 AM
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Anyone who thinks that physical attraction is the most important attribute for a man in the dating world simply lacks the experience of having moved in different circles. Status is by far the greatest advantage one can have as a man. Any man at the top of the social hierarchy will have tons of women around him if he so desires. This overshadows anything.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 10:48 AM
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I guess we're not going to agree, but the central thesis of what I'm saying is that beauty by itself is not a reliable indicator of a woman's values and behavior, but of the attention she could potentially receive. But at the same time, a woman who has been exposed to those levels of temptation and yet remains steadfast in her convictions is far more valuable than one who hasn't even been provoked to begin with. You don't want a woman who hasn't cheated on you simply because she can't, but one w…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/23 03:51 PM
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I do not agree with this. The quality of women based on their beauty is similar to the quality of people based on social hierarchy. Those at the top are not necessarily more special than those you meet in the middle or at the bottom and those you meet at the bottom or in the middle do not necessarily have greater moral virtue than those you meet at the top. Besides, you're talking about a specific niche such as social media models and influencers, who are widely known to have a personality based…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/23 01:12 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if the people who write this nonsense are really that out of touch with reality or just want to have a contrary opinion to get attention. Money is the biggest incentive in the world, and in most cases, the main indicator of men's value in the social hierarchy. Which are the most successful men with women in the world? Successful businessmen, famous artists or professional athletes. On traditional dating apps like Tinder or Bumble, about 70% of users are men. On Seeking, an app…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:38 PM
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What I mean is that sexual attraction is essentially lust, and it's not just made up of physical attraction. There is a story in which Dayanara Torres, Puerto Rican Miss Universe meets Marc Anthony, who as we know, is not the most attractive guy in the world. She says that when she met him she "felt something weird in her stomach" and was so nervous that she gave him both hands, instead of one. They later married and she went into clinical depression during the divorce. A woman who goes for thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:27 PM
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Men at the top of the social pyramid have access to the greatest number of women. This is an objective fact and a constant throughout history. Women do not try to mate with the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:45 AM
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Is it necessary to point out that money is a proxy for power and that female hypergamy is a real phenomenon? Men at the top of the hierarchy of social dominance, such as billionaires, politicians or show business celebrities, easily generate sexual attraction ONLY because they are in the position they are in. That doesn't mean it's all that's necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:23 AM
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All this has to do with the hierarchy of preferences between the sexes. Logically, both do not care about the same things to the same extent. Older men are not in a position of advantage, but the characteristics that women value (status, social position) are usually found in men who are older than they are. In other words, the wealthy 30-something venture capitalist will have no trouble finding an attractive girlfriend in her early 20s. If you think that a successful guy in his 40s is not going …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:17 AM
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Yes, totally, but the OP's post is based on the difference between short-term mating and long-term relationships. In the short term, the preferences of both sexes change; women could do without the money component, just as men can do without the traits they would look for in a wife and the mother of their children, but considering that sex is one of the main tools women use to get high-value men, that detracts from the motivation itself. If you have several million dollars you're going to have t…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/22 04:16 AM
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I relatively agree with what you say, except for the disproportionate importance you place on physical attractiveness. That sounds like a Black Pill theory. Women's love is based on admiration built on respect, while desire has to do with appreciation of dominance and power. For example, in high school, girls are often dying for the captain of the sports team and long to be his girlfriend, but once the boy graduates, her love seems to fizzle out almost at the same time. In today's society that i…
/r/TheRedPill20/02/22 07:54 PM
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Marriage exists to establish parental responsibility and rules of inheritance, rather than to make spouses happy. Beyond that, it exists to provide a framework of stability for children and to allow them to develop optimally. Children born into marriages tend to be much more successful than those born out of it. Feminism has definitely done damage to the institution of marriage, but of course, the women worth marrying and sharing life with are those who have not been infected by that ideology. E…
/r/MensRights07/02/22 08:13 PM
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That a woman wants a male provider does not make her any less empathetic, and that a man is a provider does not make him a fool. People who want this dynamic want traditional relationships based on conventional gender roles. I don't see any problem. In fact, I think much of society's problems come from questioning and reversing this. ​ A person who is empathetic towards their partner would OFFER to lessen the load on their partner as much as possible. Well, that generally works in a circle. The …
/r/MensRights07/02/22 08:26 AM
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I don't quite understand what you mean. Red Pill is a sexual, relationship and maybe life strategy, and it works very well for those who want to have sex with several women, as well as for those who prefer monogamy. I see that in Red Pill men are judged more, because according to this strategy, men have more responsibilities and obligations, and therefore more is expected of them. Of course, the hypocrisy of many women and the delusions of feminism are always mentioned, but it is not even close …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:26 AM
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I am sure that most men prefer a traditional woman: submissive, with little sexual past and with the potential to become a good wife and mother. The main problem is that not all men are in a position to have one, either because they are unwilling to take on the responsibility that comes with it, or they simply can't for some other reason, and as a consequence, they have to lower their standards. If you can't quietly provide for yourself, your wife and your future children, it's fucking stupid fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:40 AM
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Many Red Pill men have no interest in getting married or starting a family, while those who are interested want a traditional woman for a traditional marriage. With the responsibilities that come with that. Wanting a woman with little sexual past is not incompatible with wanting her to have a high sex drive. Not all are dominated by their urges, and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:35 AM
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I agree with what you say, but I see hypocrisy on both sides. Many men want a traditional, submissive, virgin woman, but not all are willing to the level of effort and patience it takes to mold a woman. Of course, the reward of having a good wife outweighs the expenditure of energy. Many women also want the traditional male provider and leader, but they want some sort of balance in the power dynamic. That simply doesn't exist. If you want a traditional woman you have to be a traditional man, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:26 AM
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I believe that in relationships of male domination and female submission the best qualities of both sexes flourish, however, there are several considerations. Dominant men evaluate their wife's concerns; domination is not tyrannical as long as it is paternal. Such a man rewards and disciplines, but does so not ruthlessly and without reason, but in response to insolence and good behavior. The way I understand the dynamics of domination and submission is one in which the man is the leader and the …
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/22 01:16 AM
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This is interesting, could you elaborate more on this? Because many of the most powerful and influential men I know are in a fairly dominant place on the spectrum. The most extreme things happen in places like Dubai or Moscow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:54 PM
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If you are a feminist and advocate for the deconstruction of men, the suppression of toxic masculinities and other things you consider repudiatory because of patriarchy, it is hypocritical to expect action that is caused by these very behaviors. Women value those actions in men, and we men are happy to do so because of the strongly ingrained provider instinct. What I am talking about is the double standard of longing for egalitarianism between the sexes, but expecting men to have more responsibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:42 AM
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I agree with what you say. If you are a man and you want a woman with traditional values, your duty is to pay for the date. That's how it would work in my ideal scenario. Traditional roles imply that the man has more responsibility. You don't have this duty if she's a feminist or something. If she wants empowerment and equality, let her start by setting an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:44 PM
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I'm one of those who believe that in the ideal scenario, the man should always pay for dates, but only if that woman conforms to traditional roles. If say she's a feminist who talks about empowerment and independence, it's best to split the bill. You can't talk about how detrimental men's toxic masculinity is to society, when you're already pre-emptively expecting behavior that is a consequence of a masculine tendency you want to destroy. In other words, you can't pick and choose the aspects of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:17 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but I think men should sacrifice for the right woman. Men love women as parents love children. Women love men like children love parents. Their levels of sacrifice are not the same. Their levels of need are not the same. Women do not have the instinct to provide as men do. However, it is this same instinct that is often exploited to the detriment of men, so it is important for men to recognize their vulnerability and self-regulate accordingly. Sacrifice for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:23 PM
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Men are the sacrificers of humanity. They do the things that no one wants to do, but that have to be done. Now, men in love are often happy to sacrifice because of an intrinsically ingrained provider instinct. Man's sacrifice is building his self-worth, and sacrificing himself for the woman. The woman does not sacrifice herself for the man. ​ Men have to sacrifice what? Women aren't only after "prize men," only asshole women are like that. Theres many many normal average women who just want a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:11 PM
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There is some ego involved, but it has more to do with common sense. Suppose you want to have a long-term relationship with the intention of moving on to marriage and children. The mother of your children is one of the greatest investments you will make for yourself and your unborn children, as she will not only carry them, give them half of their genetic material and give them life, but she will also act as the primary source of nurture and influence over them in their most formative and impres…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:33 PM
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Well, for me it only matters if I have plans to formalize the relationship, otherwise it is irrelevant. Men have to sacrifice in the dating market. He has to show his worth to get a good woman (as is logical). But why does he have to sacrifice when many other guys have achieved the same thing with much less effort? What's the benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:59 PM
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Young, attractive women tend to choose successful men, not those with whom they "share interests". This is how it worked in the past, and continues to work in all societies around the world. Women have been graduating more from universities for decades and have had more opportunities than men for much longer. Why don't they reach positions of power? Simple: because they do not choose that route. The most lucrative careers such as technology and finance are dominated by men despite all the forced…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:28 AM
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No, even in the most liberal countries of the West, which are far from being a patriarchy, it works like this. I'm not saying it's the only way. Say, the 30-year-old investment banker or venture capitalist has a much better chance of dating 21-year-old Instagram models than college students.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:07 AM
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The most attractive 21-year-old women move in other circles if they want to. Female beauty has always been a powerful tool for social climbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:55 AM
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You should be more specific. Even men of higher value need dates to get sex, so I'll assume what you mean is refraining from formal relationships with the intention of marriage. Your 20s is the age to start building an empire, and a good woman is very helpful in achieving that, but that's not something you get everywhere. If you're not convinced that this woman will really add value to what you're aiming for in life, it's better to prioritize your personal goals and stay single rather than be wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:48 AM
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No woman likes to feel that you are with her only because you have no other alternative, but you have the opportunity to be with other women, but you chose her. Literally a woman is incapable of respecting a man who cannot tell her because he has no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:05 PM
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Women are always attracted to what other women find desirable. Other women are the catalysts of female desire. That's why women validate their tastes with their female friends. So they can corroborate, check or compare if they have the best male available. Even a man she is not attracted to will be worth reconsidering if he is found desirable by the women in her circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:30 PM
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I think there is a tendency in women, where once they get commitment from a man, they try to change it. That is, they try to modify the behavior that initially attracted them. It's a kind of conscious or unconscious self-sabotage. For example, if they fell in love with a strong, unsentimental man, they tend to put excessive pressure on the man to open up and show vulnerability. Or if they married a man with a purpose, they are overly insistent that he spend more time with them, usually at the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:32 PM
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Well, that's not exactly how it works. If you want to get the best man possible, you have to try to become the best woman possible. There's none of that in FDS. The women there seem idiotized by Disney love, where Prince Charming will come to them simply by existing. Likewise, most of the women on that subreddit are average. If they weren't, they would have no problem finding high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:51 AM
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For men, being successful is the only way to climb the social pyramid, and therefore the only way to significantly increase their value. The higher up the pyramid you are, the more women will be available to you. Women don't face that dilemma. Having a 6 or 7 figure job, or even being a multi-millionaire is not a big help in finding a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:28 AM
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I assume the delusional thing about the situation is that in FDS, despite the man bringing more to the table and sacrificing more overall, they want a relationship based on equality. Say, the man has to have a great job, money, house, car, good physique, 6 feet, 6 inches and I don't know how many other things. The woman just has to put in her physical attractiveness and maybe little sexual past, although I don't know if this is guaranteed in that sub, because for them all women apparently are of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:21 AM
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It may be rude, but for one sex it works and for another it doesn't. A fun experiment would be for a woman to write "I want to have sex with you" to ten random men on Twitter, and see how many of them agree directly. Then let's try the same thing with one man and ten women, and compare the results. Women can ask for sex directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 02:19 AM
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These kinds of silly and effortless publications should be eliminated. The definition of Beta is in the TRP glossary: Beta: Providing traits: providing resources or validation to others, women (and perhaps men). Beta traits show low value to women if they come on too strong or too early in the meeting-giving without equity. Beta can be used to describe individual behaviors as well as people who have an overwhelming amount of beta (as opposed to alpha) properties. The men you that you mentioned c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:39 PM
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The categories "alpha" and "beta" are just labels that serve to describe, most of the time quite accurately, the behaviors associated with masculinity. Men should definitely be concerned with living a proactive lifestyle that maximizes their masculine nature, from the dynamics of romantic relationships to those at work. Whether this is subsequently considered alpha is secondary, but it is not the real purpose. He just lives his life according to his desires and interests. Living life according t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:27 PM
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Your three paragraphs are based on the premise that I am complaining about how the relationship market behaves, when I am not. I use the term "value" because in any market the price of goods and services is determined by supply and demand. I don't complain at all. That is not a problem for me. I describe what happens and accept it as laws almost as universal as those of thermodynamics or those of supply and demand. I embrace reality, I don't deny it. Both men and women have SMV (Sexual Market Va…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:11 AM
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Well, your anecdotal evidence is diametrically opposed to my experience. I can't think of any man I know of high value, in the three countries I have lived in who significantly weights a woman's professional performance as part of his choice. With the diary comment you have shown great imagination, lmao. I simply don't have one. A woman who is a 7/10 will be a 7/10 being unemployed or a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. In fact, if she is very successful, she is likely to have to share too much time…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:39 AM
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To say that women don't complain about the lack of men of value is a rationalization as out of touch with reality as saying that there are no men complaining about female hypergamy or "high standards for women." There simply are and MANY on both sides. The popularity of FDS is proof of that. To deny them is to willfully not want to see reality. Tons of research like thisindicates that while men value beauty, the fact that a woman is of high status, reduces their desire, mainly because of the shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:23 AM
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Have you noticed that the main thesis of the topic is related to the SMV and RMV and not to the microeconomic performance of each sex? In both cases, a woman's professional success does not make her more desirable. In fact, due to a woman's hypergamous nature, the higher her position, the fewer men she is interested in. A man's professional success DOES contribute A LOT to his SMV and RMV. A man looks at the top, middle and bottom without distinction, and he can choose practically at will all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:53 PM
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That's not the point. A woman can have a 7 figure job, and a master's degree, but her value does not lie in that. She is not more valuable than the woman making $30k. The 7-figure man is more valuable than the man who earns $30,000, with very few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:22 PM
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Simple. A man has to gain value, women have to preserve it. An 18 year old girl can marry a rich man and never have to work a day in her life (or sell her body and open an OnlyFans account). An 18-year-old man is nothing. He has to work on his finances, his body, his social network, among many other things, to finally gain value. A woman, even if she is not particularly attractive and has no money, may have a lot of value for a long-term relationship if she indicates signs that she is a good par…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:54 PM
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-Men and women are equal -But despite this, men oppressed women -But despite this, women are better -Yet despite this, women are uniquely vulnerable -Yet despite this, they should be independent Imagine taking an ideology with this many inherent contradictions seriously. I repeat, choose one. Women as a sex tend to prefer strong men. Does that mean that 100% of women do? No. Biologically men prefer to mate with young women. Does this mean that this is the preference of all men in the world? No. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:40 PM
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You make two opposing claims. Men and women are equal. There are 3.7 billion women, so it is not possible to make generalist claims. Pick one. It makes no sense to want equality between men and women, because men are not even equal to each other, and women only want the best men. So let me ask you: how can you have equality BETWEEN the sexes, when you don't even have equality WITHIN the sexes? Do you know what evolutionary biology is? Do you know that even though mankind is diverse, it is amazin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:17 PM
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Women do not really believe in equality. They simply manage the idea to limit restrictions on their behavior and sexuality. Wherever there is danger, dilemmas or money, they expect men to step up and be better than them. Always. "Men and women are equal" = one of the most ridiculous, delusional and self-serving statements you can hear in life. The reality around us literally tells us otherwise. That is why it is absurd to assign men greater responsibility without the authority that goes with it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 06:51 PM
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Men seek attractive women for the simple fact that they are attractive, not as a way to achieve status. If this were the case, Onlyfans' content creators would be full of high-value suitors for formal relationships, when this is not the case. This may perhaps be a consequence, but the primary motivator is sexual desire. Women have a natural instinct to relate to men in a higher social position than themselves. Whether he is (or is not) largely influences their decision. That does not happen with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:31 PM
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Alpha – Socially dominant. Somebody who displays high value, or traits that are sexually attractive to women. Alpha can refer to a man who exhibits alpha behaviors (more alpha tendencies than beta), but usually used to describe individual behaviors themselves. In 2021 what defines dominance is exclusively status. A woman won't leave a rich guy from Silicon Valley for a guy just like Henry Cavill but from her local gym. Just as men do not seek women to improve their status or social position, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:00 PM
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There are several interesting points in what you say. I generally agree with your view. It is a fact that most men today do not deserve to be followed because they do not even have the desire to be worthy of admiration. Many seem to lack the almost natural masculine need to want to be leaders who have purpose in their lives. That combined with the feminist indoctrination of "empowerment and independence" are a recipe for widespread discontent in the dating world. Well, on the one hand, the man m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:45 AM
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That is the exception and not the rule. For every Britney case, there are a thousand like Jeff Bezos, Trump, George Soros or François Pinault
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:02 AM
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It is the man's responsibility to lead, and the woman's to follow, as men are attracted to female submission in the same way that women are attracted to male domination, something that is felt in situations as everyday as sex. This basic premise is itself the basic building block upon which attraction is formed, and whether knowingly or unknowingly on the part of those involved, all healthy and happy relationships operate on this same basis. To confuse male dominance with oppression is a mischar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:34 AM
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What is the "red pill definition of hypergamy" according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:52 AM
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It is well known that women are more easily influenced by the culture of their country, their religion, their family and their immediate environment than men. Yes, men are also influenced by these things, but in general, women are more easily influenced. Why is this? Well, I don't feel like speculating too much on the subject; however, I think it boils down to a greater need for approval on the part of women and the ability to be more fluid in character as a way to adapt. Back to my original poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:53 AM
1

All healthy relationships are configured to complement the longings of the other sex without sacrificing the essence of each. Love and lust are not based on mutual respect. Love is based on mutual care, lust on mutual desire. Women care and lust when they can respect a man's hardness, men lust for flesh and only care when they are caught by a woman's softness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:17 AM
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The value of a young woman goes beyond the attractiveness of her physical youth and fertility, although both are coveted in themselves, her main attraction is her malleability to become a woman who complements a man. Older women not only tend to lose beauty, but are largely irredeemable, lacking the inherent flexibility of younger women. The emphasis in TRP is to target what you are sexually attracted to, whether it's younger women, older women, fat women, etc. The only time it would be "beta" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:48 PM
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That is not the definition of hypergamy. Hypergamy is the act of prioritizing a better social or economic status in the search for a partner. For most men, a girl will have the same attraction if she is unemployed or if she has $100 million. It doesn't vary. For the vast majority of women, the fact that the man has $100 million will significantly compensate for other shortcomings he may have, and this would play a key role in the choice of partner. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. It's just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:22 PM
0

Who’s gonna regret that for the sake of missing out on an imaginary judgmental man when she still has a lineup of dudes still willing to date her? I'm sure they have tons of guys behind them, but participating in the creation of sexual content incredibly prevents those women from finding high value men as partners. That's an incontrovertible reality. No high value man who values himself would make them his wives and mother of his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:08 PM
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In the West there has been an interesting paradox for some time with respect to masculinity. Men in this hemisphere are bombarded all the time with junk that there is something inherently wrong with behaving like masculine men who have desires and must manifest them. Expressions like "toxic masculinity" are a sample, or that they are induced to be "good guys" (euphemism for weak) who are alien to the masculine essence, instead of being dominant men. Conversely, women are taught to be the antithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:45 AM
2

Under that reasoning, men should also be free to keep it a secret that they had a child in a past relationship. If you love a man for who he is today, why should his actions of yesterday matter? What would you think of a man who doesn't care about the child he had 10 years ago? After all, he has proven himself to be a different kind of person now and with you. All women would change their perception if something like that was hidden from them, because they would automatically know that this man …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:50 AM
2

Love consists of the version of you that you are presenting to me, which is limited. A man's love can quickly fizzle out if he learns that his wife was a porn actress in her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:10 AM
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Look, no. People are responsible for their past actions and have to bear them, for better or worse. That's what freedom is all about. The one trying to impose your opinions is you, pretending that men should take into account the things that seem right to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:08 AM
2

Honesty is a two-way street. People should be honest about EVERYTHING that might be important in a long-term relationship: medical history, financial accounts, sexual past, political views, religious views, etc. Anything that can change the other person's mind and potentially change their perception. Men are not trying to impose anything. Many of us simply have our preferences, and if you don't meet them, they just write you off. Just like women. The difference is that men tend to take fewer thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:02 AM
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Men and women should be honest about this. Whether men care more about the number of sexual partners their partner has had is another matter. I have found that women care about knowing the past, but especially about knowing the quality of previous partners, rather than the quantity. Men care more about the quantity than the nature of them. Biological and metaphysical differences
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:31 PM
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I am sure they can. Today's sexual content creators will surely be wives and mothers in 20 years, but what they are doing today will limit their options for finding a high value man. Most of them are full of simps who would like to marry them, but men of value will NEVER consider them as the mother of their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:47 PM
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Most men only care about the virginity or sexual past of the woman they plan on marrying or dating, for the rest of the women it's completely irrelevant. If we're just going to have sex, I don't care if you've slept with 200 guys before me. If you expect every woman you sleep with to be a virgin, you're an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:43 PM
2

That was very good reasoning. I hadn't thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:06 AM
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Humanity is diverse, so inevitably there will be an exception in one form or another that refutes some aspect of the argument. And yet, despite human diversity, there is an incredible similarity between men and women. If it didn't generalize there would be no point in any kind of debate. Most men don't like their girl to have gone through the whole soccer team.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:13 AM
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Just look at the last 10 hot posts that appear on the main page of each Subreddit. In The Red Pill, they all talk about self-improvement, habit formation, sexual strategies that are based on maximizing your potential through the creation of mental models of psychology, biology, etc. In Red Pill Woman they talk about how to become good women, add value to their men and complement them, always understanding the differences between the two. FDS is a place of unhappy women who only complain about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:18 PM
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TRP and FDS are polar opposites. The fundamental difference is that in TRP, it teaches you that it is your responsibility as a man to develop and be the best version of yourself, and to find a person who fits your frame. Your value as a man is not inherent, but you have to build it. In FDS, the responsibility is also the man's, but because all women are perfect creatures oblivious to the flaws of mere mortals, who deserve to be treated like princesses just for existing. They are women who adopt …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:28 PM
2

FDS is a strange dimension in which they talk about "independence and empowerment" but at the same time want the advantages of traditional couples: to be independent but not responsible for their freedom. They yearn for egalitarianism, but want men to be the providers and be the ones to initiate courtship. It's madness. The irony is that they agree with Red Pill on some things, but for different reasons. The fundamental difference is that in TRP, it is your responsibility as a man to develop and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:40 PM
0

No, that would be contradictory to point 4, and I find it distasteful. I'm talking about things like BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:30 AM
0

Traditional and conservative values: their way of seeing the world. Their views on issues such as religion, politics and family roles. Willingness and openness to explore their sexuality: what they do in bed. This is perfectly compatible if there is no adultery involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:12 PM
2

I think the guy thinks that female submission implies some kind of abuse or something similar. Female submission is simply the woman accepting your leadership and not trying to rival you, as happens in feminist or FDS circles. From a biological point of view, women are submissive and men are dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:17 PM
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* She is beautiful. * Femininity. * Stable character. * Conservative and traditional social values. * No children. * Accepts and enjoys my leadership. * She does not have much sexual history and she has never had anything to do with sex work. * She is caring, kind and fun to be with. * Agrees to sign a prenuptial agreement. * Loyalty. * Doesn't have too many tattoos. * Willingness and open mindedness to explore her sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:29 PM
2

No high-value man would choose a woman who prides herself on being "high-maintenance". That seems like a euphemism for narcissistic neurotic. The more neurotic a woman is, the more "maintenance" she is and the more time and emotional labor she will require. The more neurotic she is, the more irrational, emotionally demanding and attention demanding she will be. A woman who has her neuroticism under control will give her man space to thrive, work, learn, and essentially perform the necessary task…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:25 PM
1

Be the woman a good man would want. Look for a masculine man with a firm objective and clear goals. A leading man you can look up to, for whom you are a partner, not an end in itself. There is no point in being with a faithful man if you don't want him because he is a loser or too weak. Be attractive and treat him well in bed. Be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:31 AM
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I would tell her that part of being a man is making decisions and owning up to them. If you've given your word to a woman who loves you and has shown you loyalty, you can't break it and throw it away because you've changed your mind. If you want a young, attractive woman, choose her from the start, or don't get married until you can afford to be with the younger, more attractive women. Don't let your penis do your thinking for you. Men who leave their wives because of those kinds of impulses alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:42 PM
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It's not something any man with honor and ethics would do. To me, relationships are like a blood pact: if your wife showed you loyalty when you were starting out, it's your duty to be loyal to her when you achieve success. Jeff Bezos is the example of a man who cheats on the woman who helped him build the empire and leaves with the hot gold digger when he gets to the position he craved. Only the girlfriend's glance at DiCaprio evidences whether the decision was right...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:53 PM
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Yes, it is possible, and therefore, she will never be able to respect a man if she believes she is smarter and can exercise better leadership. It is very difficult to find an extremely intelligent woman who does not experience problems in the leader-follower dynamic due to fundamental disagreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:31 PM
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By obedience I mean acceptance of the man's leadership and trust in him. An exceptionally intelligent woman will think she can do better than you. That's all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:45 PM
3

Yes, but that is not always the case. An 18-year-old single mother is not the same as a woman who left her husband because he cheated on her or became beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:38 PM
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Women who can hold an intellectual conversation are infinitely more pleasant than their duller counterparts, providing a better quality of companionship for their future husbands. However, it is important to keep in mind that highly intelligent women tend to be incredibly stubborn and no less irrational than dumber women. A very intelligent woman will be predisposed to believe that she knows more than you do. They will be prone to disobedience, and even if they conform, they will do so with rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:30 PM
0

Why single mother? Unlike the rest of the other characteristics, this is not necessarily her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:40 PM
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Sexual past too broad, disloyal, feminist, misandric, lack of femininity, overweight, rude, confrontational, overeducated, narcissistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:35 PM
2

Studies also say that women initiate 69% of divorces and 90% in cases where she has a college education. My interpretation is that even if a man is not happy, he is less likely to break the engagement with his wife except for her infidelity, because sexual exclusivity is one of the few requirements that men usually have in marriage, while women demand more, and are more likely to decide to break it since their love is subject to more things than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:02 PM
1

This is really interesting and reaffirms the main point. I think the possible confusion comes from assuming that the man does not love because he simply does not manifest it as the woman does. It is much more likely that, when the time comes, the man would be willing to die for his wife than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:48 PM
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“When a woman marries again, it is because she detested her first husband. When a man marries again, it is because he adored his first wife. Women try their luck; men risk theirs.” – Oscar Wilde I really think your professor is totally wrong and the reality is TOTALLY the opposite. The problem is contingent on not only the way in which man craves to be loved, but likewise the way in which woman is capable of loving. Man desires a sacrificial love, sacrifice implies loyalty and connection. What m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:29 AM
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You are a man who likes women. You simply have to act accordingly. Wanting to meet a girl and date her is a perfectly normal and healthy emotion, as natural as breathing. Accept it that way: the truth without pretense. Don't hide the fact that you are attracted to a woman and don't be ashamed of it. I'm 21 and was an introvert until I was 17, when I forced myself to step out of my comfort zone and talk to as many women as I could, even if I didn't find them that attractive. One thing I learned i…
/r/seduction15/12/21 03:23 PM
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You are simply rationalizing by assuming that men and women are homogeneous in terms of sexual desire structure. For the vast majority of women, Musk's power, influence and status is an object of sexual desire in itself, and that far outweighs the attractiveness of the bodybuilder. Beyond money, women crave male power above all else. From an evolutionary standpoint what you say doesn't hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:10 PM
1

Your recent posts are definitely the definition of an incel complaining about how much women suck due to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:39 PM
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It is not the money but the power itself. Answer the question - would women choose to have sex with Elon Musk or the handsome bodybuilder?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:16 PM
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No, the point is that men and women find different things attractive to each other, so different things will drive the SMV of men and women. The success of the man himself may drive the sexual desire of the woman, and that doesn't happen in the opposite case. Does Elon Musk or Serguei Brin have less SMV than the 10/10 fitness influencer? Does the 5/10 female Hollywood starlet have more SMV than the 10/10 girl at the local gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:08 PM
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SMV is what makes you sexually desirable to the opposite sex. Men and women find different things attractive to each other, therefore, different things will drive the SMV of men and women. Who would women rather fuck - Elon Musk (an extremely successful guy who is not noted for his physical attractiveness) or the 10/10 bodybuilder at their gym? Obviously they would always choose Musk. Who would men rather fuck, a 5/10 Hollywood starlet or the 10/10 girl at their gym? There's your answer. I won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:03 PM
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They are not mutually exclusive because the two are not equally weighted in the preferences of both. Both men and women have SMV because both men and women desire each other sexually. However, the fact that men as a whole desire sex with much greater frequency and variety than women makes men the "buyers" and women the "sellers" of sex. Therefore, an SMV of 7/10 in a woman is more valuable than an SMV of 7/10 in a man. It's a holistic thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:19 PM
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That is not what I said. A beta provider is nothing more than a work unit resigned to financial servitude and foolishly believes that on the merit of his work alone he is worthy of a woman's respect. For a woman to love a man sustainably and deeply, he cannot provide only material benefit, but must also provide immaterial benefit. That is the alpha provider. You're more likely to be able to get that at 30 than at 23, and that's the reason why a man's value in the sexual marketplace increases ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:12 PM
-1

Nope. Men are at their sexual peak at the same age as women, which is indeed 18-35. Listen, I still find my FWB sexy but he's 50 now and I can say he was more attractive in his 30s. This is simply not true. A woman, at say, 18 or 21, is at the peak of her sex appeal. If you are beautiful at that age, you can never work another day in your life if you want to. A man at 18 or 21 is worth virtually nothing, because he is generally not in the ability to provide nor does he have status. Men have to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:41 AM
3

It is the man's responsibility to lead and the woman's to follow, for men are attracted to female submission in the same way that women are attracted to male dominance. This is evident in matters as obvious as sex. This basic premise is itself the basic building block upon which attraction is formed, and whether knowingly or unknowingly to those involved, all healthy and happy relationships operate on this same basis. I assume the downside to assuming this is that you may think that submission i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:26 PM
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There is something called a developmental staircase. The longer you go without being there, the further you fall behind. A man who puts off dating until his 30s is basically a virgin with little chance of standing out in the peer group. A guy who started at 18 will have a significant advantage over him when he reaches 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:14 PM
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In fact, this absurd idea that each party is equal to the other, that no one leads or follows, but that each one makes proposals to the other and that such a thing somehow works is a dysfunctional and pervasive memetic. The absence of hierarchy is chaos, so to pretend and idealize equality is to promote and propitiate chaos. Why would an independent man want an independent woman? Men are attracted to female dependence, because in dependence comes respect, and respect is the basis of love for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:54 PM
6

Relationships should only be egalitarian in the sense that the needs of both should matter equally to ensure the greater good, but in all other respects they are not. They cannot be egalitarian because both parties do not bring the same thing to the table and do not seek the same thing, starting from the biological point of view. The problem is that feminism defines "independent" basically as adopting male tendencies, or limiting itself to the ability to satisfy their material needs, but women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:03 PM
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I don't think it will become "rare", but the trend indicates that it will decrease significantly in the future. At least in the West, fewer and fewer men want to become patriarchs at the head of a family, and more and more women are indoctrinated with this false idea of independence and empowerment that rivals men. Both parties seem unable to accept their nature and complement each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:26 PM
1

This topic is simple. Beauty standards affect women more because love for women is based on desire. Men want the most beautiful woman. Standards of success (such as money, fame, and prestige) affect men more because love for men is based on respect and admiration. Women want the most successful and powerful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:52 AM
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This is not unique to women's treatment of men. Men also deprive themselves of specifying their preferences to avoid the "body-positive" chair. Haven't you seen how many women complain about how superficial men are? Although, obviously, there is the gaggle of resentful, dishonorable types who never stop harping on how much women suck because of hypergamy. Female hypergamy exists, but it's idiotic to complain about the rules of the game. You just accept them and take advantage of them. Although I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:25 PM
3

As a man, you have to offer more than money if you don't want to be loved solely for the money. Just look at how Jeff Bezos' girlfriend looked at DiCaprio....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:19 PM
2

Partially agree. When looking for a partner, women always look for someone who is equal, or preferably, above them in terms of status, although this is obviously not the only thing they are looking for. For women, money is important (which is logical) in the search for a partner, while for men it is an almost unimportant aspect. Spontaneity, fun, humor, good sex and confidence are also important. It is one thing for a woman to want money to live a good life, and another thing to want it to finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:15 PM
7

Women are attracted to powerful male leaders/authority figures. This is an incontrovertible fact in evolutionary biology.. This indicates that a woman's love is based on respect. Her inability to respect a man entrusted with leadership will ultimately conclude in her loss of love for him. In all relationships, someone leads and someone else follows. There is no such thing as equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:27 PM
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One thing that red pillers and feminists share is the idea that it is always the man's fault: just for different reasons. Feminists, because men only embody the shadow self and represent all evil. The red pillers, because she is more emotional and less reliable/mature
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:10 PM
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Feminists want a man who does not exist. They want a "real man" to be admired, but they also want a man who tolerates the selfishness and disrespect that only a weaker man could tolerate. Thus, they seek an unstable contradiction: a man who is a leader, but who does not impose limits. The feminist man is the pinnacle in the absence of testosterone. Feminism convinces women to see men as the enemy, and to compete with them rather than complement them. This is why women who adhere to this set of v…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:09 PM
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