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Question For WomenSadCahita/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:09 AM
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are the "young conservative women" in this planet, with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:19 AM

just think if a male sex icon would be closer to his peak at 20 or 40, no surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:11 AM

The mere "all these guy friends secretly desiring you" shocking young women baffles me as if it wasn't obvious, "how most guys are most attracted to 20yr olds" is the second most obvious and yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:39 AM

based and commonerpilled....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:35 AM
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It's less of an objection, rambling at the street about hippie love, Bauman and "let's just be nice" will not change the phenomena you presented as bad (30% of young adults are single etc.) in practice. Those things are caused by other facts like attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:50 AM
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You people still don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:43 AM
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Not addressing the practical causes of partner matchmaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:50 AM

Guys who don't hang out, spend more time gaming, and don't date are actually MORE likely to support gander equalety I asked myself and it doesn't seem true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:42 AM
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The change is not sudden. It has been 100+ years of mandatory state school, degeneracy is gradual. This is what leads to things like the Online Safety Act instead of slapping adults into being adults and parents again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:08 AM

The latter I guess. It's not like finding a guy willing to submit is hard enough to drop the standards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:50 AM
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Schools suck, most people have angsty memories of those years or worse things like bullying and school days romantic relationships don't last. Extremist opinion related: modern/public schools are a way for the State to be more totalitarian replacing families and parenting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:19 AM
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Because it's that or not dating, good luck finding an actual conservative girl on current year lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:52 AM
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I'm sleep deprived
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:22 PM
8

average women not getting with chad = biggest tragedy in history
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:19 PM
6

so averages will settle for each other, good ending
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:13 PM
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There is 0 reason for women to lie 5 AM and already the most silly thing I'll read today
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:56 PM
14

You using a Polygamy/Settle dichotomy proves that the good (attractive*) men exist, it's just them not wanting to settle with you. So the women that had to stay single is because they weren't good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:53 PM
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I don't use PPD to vent on particular women with particular names and faces. I talk about my experiences and viewings on this kind of topics. And as far as I know that kind of posting would be banned in the website.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:26 AM
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and I don't approve it, nor I know about it through a somewhat big media conmotion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:15 AM
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it's not ethical, I don't give af about the IPs and Tea's doxxing was deserved. I would say karma even, if I believed in the eastern concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:13 AM
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all I see are psycho women thinking people with the wrong genitalia don't have a right to privacy, backing the reaction to Tea's failure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:10 AM
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And it didn't promote doxxing. It just made a platform designed to shittalk about your failed dates with face and name. I have 0 pity about those retards reaping what they sowed for a profit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:57 AM
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good as in well done scam, not morally good. Are you st- >sees username ah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:51 AM
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I don't see a gazillion mainstream news websites praising the 4chan threads on the topic, quite the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:49 AM
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It was a good grift to get data from stupid women and potentially sell it while investing 0 dollars in cybersecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:47 AM
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I don't think it's ok when men do it, but I don't see a digital nationwide platform about it which would be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:46 AM
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cannot handle being treated like women. I don't recall men making a #1 Apple Store mainstream platform dedicated to doxx and shit on people you dated with 0 concern for privacy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:35 AM
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I asked because I don't know about her (nor I am interested in her). And wanting a hoe to show herself doesn't sound like being loved by her "fans" necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:27 PM
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Is she? I never knew about here before this "liberal women hate her due to her jeans ad" thing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:10 PM
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Saori looks young and cute, japanese genetics. Also the "male gaze" narrative is BS women talk more about than men. Also Saori is Japanese. Did I say she's Japanese?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:02 PM
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if they want children that's the big if, seeing countries in population crisis. But even when they don't want children many still go for simping
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:35 AM
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the demand [of particular generic product = average dudes]
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:28 AM

which makes me go back to my initial doubt of why would I choose to marry a practically asexual woman or soon to be asexual older woman remaining single is superior to living in a dead bedroom for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:07 PM
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hetero, and super girly, usually also had heavy expectations on male gender roles in a relationship and antiquated ideas of courtship. self proclaimed bisexual girls I have dated are no different at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:40 PM
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2/10 ragebait now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:34 PM
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4/10 ragebait
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:20 PM
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the demand of general guys is as at an all time low which makes the price (effort, the squeeze) at an all time high
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:19 PM
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mf doesn't see how increasing the offer decreases the demand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:11 PM

more weight to the dating young women crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:50 PM
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while single men with sex toys are seen as "losers" and amplify that effect further. the shaming works because the toys for men aren't yet to the point of giving an equal satisfaction to real sex and being of easy access. The idea is sexbots being high quality enough to not lose to the real thing so guys would say "why bother with all the courtship and listening to someone I dislike when I can get the same experience for two months of savings?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:23 PM

If we're not 60 yet and she drops the sex and there isn't a medical condition involved either she's lying or it's a crimson flag
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:08 PM
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it does make sense if you're past age 16 and can understand the concept of incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:06 PM
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somehow this sounds even more unhygienic than a brothel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:41 AM
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What a nice time to remind me that I didn't continue watching Saber Marionette, but so far the men seemed happy enough in their maid robots world
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:35 AM
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The point those people make is that the social power women wield with sex will disappear the day there's a viable alternative. Men can go absurd lengths for the remote chance of sex with a random girl. One can imagine the effects with men no longer buying flowers, paying for dinner, texting women a lot, etc. because the chance of sex would no longer be a strong incentive due the alternative. They don't care about what the female costumers get since men don't hold that sexual power to get a line …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:24 AM
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pro: not suffering of high male libido nor being outed as loser cons: apparently everything else nun cel mode
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:07 AM
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fkn based....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:39 AM
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Why would I marry the former then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:31 AM
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I tend to see HR and job interviewers as subhuman so that's not much reassuring
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:24 AM
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why would blue boomers spend time polling people and researching instead of being nagged by their wives and cursing 25 y.o single men for not having a house and 4 kids already
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:45 AM

growing without her own dad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:17 AM
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simple explanation razor
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:06 PM
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I agree, it's kinda tautological. But saying the former is a public sin
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:51 PM
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But a lot of guys aren’t interested in long term relationships until then either the guys women seek at that point, while the guys they reject do, that's the concept of AFBB
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:42 PM
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Sure dude, all those single mother cases are some sort of BB free love with lots of romance and never the accident of an unwanted pregnancy and the guy going away. Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:34 PM
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"You're not going above and beyond to simp for not good quality women who have already filtered you and/or you have filtered them. Therefore you're not good" Okbuddyretard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:26 PM
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or being a single mom is presented as evidence of de facto Chad chasing seeing that around half of single mothers didn't marry before turning into single mothers... it's not unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:22 PM
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When the poor guy is the breadwinner it starts as father-daughter too but I think it degenerates into what you say
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:48 AM
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beta bucking implies a prior chad chasing, the whole proverb is AF:BB for a reason and that's what makes it disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:43 AM
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and guns work on people you already know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:14 PM
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"can't change their mind" in a positive way i.e. it won't go up from there if she clocked you as ugly weirdo from the start. It can and will change negatively eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:14 PM
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and poor people can't be toxic because
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:30 PM

All of them. I don't know in which parallel world femcels feminists and BPillers live in where most women are wonderful and nice and even if you're not involved with them you as a man should want to be their friend and actively care about them because they're so cool. But maybe I'm pretty neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:25 PM
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Too many people focusing on the metaphor instead of the point that the man doesn't owe her friendship and attention and isn't an "asshole fake nice guy" for moving on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:19 PM
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>this never happens But it happens all the time and as the other guy said, thousands if not millions of single mothers can prove this to happen. >but this doesn't count because uhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:12 PM
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not going to dangerous places and porting a gun if you do isn't useless in regard to assault
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:08 PM
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due biology, men are less precious for the reproduction of a group thus more men are considered losers socially than women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:16 AM
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porting a gun and not running around a ghetto hood at 3 am?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:33 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:01 AM
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Eventually marrying and having children if that's your desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:49 AM
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"for you to pay it is enough of a reward itself sweetie, we're the table"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:39 AM
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In opposition to women not seeing relationships transactionally: not expecting the men to pay when they eat out, not expecting flowers and regular gifts, not dreaming with a big wedding they can take pictures of and be the town princess for a day, not looking for the hottest high status guy they can get to post on their profile, etc.? Men don't do these by their own desire and we see these demands as bizarre as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:30 AM
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But I also realize that it’s a lot harder for men to “break into” certain social groups without offering anything of value… whereas women are more often viewed as valuable by default. bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:13 AM
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100% a lesson to write down before learning it the hard way, people got mad because you told the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:44 AM
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This. I don't get why don't they get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:34 AM
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fucking elders
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:30 AM
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Do they have the same level of attraction than their younger single counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:29 AM
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what part did you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:17 AM
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because more early than late it turns into the kind of situation that makes us laugh at them and say "choose better" when them girls want to vent on us
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:50 AM
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happy with bf? like one or two
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:37 AM
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make a pol and ask childless men if most of them are willing to date a woman with children
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:38 AM
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several
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:36 AM
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minimum standards for men = be tall, jacked up or be born with a good face really hard standards for women imposed by very picky men = not have been pregnant by another man before (your default state is to not been pregnant before)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:46 AM
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women are or are most women old and/or single mothers? I would include fat but users here are from America
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:41 AM
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You're part of the selectors until you choose to become low value by becoming a single mom or getting out of the sexual market by staying single until old age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:31 AM
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You're not born fat, old, nor a single mom. Those are negative traits you acquire in you life. Thus all women have a time when they're naturally peak in SMV just by existing and are effectively the selectors for their local male pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:25 AM
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the op is ragebait
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:11 AM
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Child (woman would be redundant) because when someone else speaks is lashing out and when you speak we must absolutely listen and do what you say, can't even encounter basic sarcasm without breaking down. And going back to your title and OP. If you really think all men are exhausting then be celibate. No one gives a fuck if you stay single because it's too exhausting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:35 AM
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when women talk honestly then it's frustration and no one should say anything to it (despite you opening a thread for replies lmao) but when men talk then it's muh little ego. See where this shit is going? Nowhere. Thanks for proving the point of why no one uses "womanchild" as it would be redundant
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:17 AM
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you're not making any points. You put a "debate" tag just to vent about a man in your mind and just going with the "men must be wrong and women are the victims" mentality. "women face X" "if you disagree with me then it must be your ego" shit Have you not considered that maybe you're a shit partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:53 AM

the rationalization. Even when not true, just to know what goes on in someone's head "eww what a whore" or "I hate those girls who have him I want him I want popular toy"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:36 AM
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by the tone of her post it pretty much sounds like that's the case of all her relationships and she hates men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:28 AM
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Then be celibate or a whore. You don't have to be in a relationship if you're not relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:20 AM
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There isn't for being a women centered man either. Women don't sleep with their simps and male feminists lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:06 AM
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I answer with a genuine question. If you have a super intuition and social skills why can't you sense that the drug addcit or woman beater is obviously a bad choice? Even other men can sense they're not good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:04 AM
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<image> iykyk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:59 AM
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Do you know what people call to someone who has been trying the same exact attempt expecting a different result? Also >thinking a interaction with a stranger on the internet is "abusive behavior" rofl + lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:24 PM
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choose better doesn't mean physically hot, so yes an ugly guy can work for the purpose of choosing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:15 PM
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Why the fuck would I care about being likeable to women but not sexually attractive to them? That sounds like a hellish way to live. Platonic relationships with women are overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:55 PM
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Describing how some treands work on the great scheme doesn't mean endorsing when an individual acts like that. It simply is more likely to happen. Someone who doesn't grasp this is retarded and shouldn't be posting on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:35 PM
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if you never married and have a BC in your youth you were fucking around lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:27 PM
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and yet it is a choice to try a chance with the fuckboy/abuser who is less likely to respect you over the less desirable guy who is more likely to respect you. I don't feel sorry for the girls who choose the former and lose the gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:25 PM
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That's most women bud. You just sound like someone who really wants to be liked by the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:18 PM
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men are way more likely to accept sex with a woman who is below him in the hierarchy. Male ancient instinct is to spread the seed with the available females and see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:16 PM
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and now the modteam doesn't grasp the meaning of "If" either, funny
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:13 PM
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having less options and a lack of fuckboy record is an indication. A basic one, but still bigger than the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:12 PM
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dating an average guy who you think is more likely to treat you with respect does make sense but you don't want to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:04 PM
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it does, you're just being obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:58 PM
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all markets are influenced by demand and supply. And yes, relationships end up working as a sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:55 PM
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fucking around is on the same line and you barely see women talking about being unmarried and virgins here and IRL in the West
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:41 PM
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The more options a guy has the less likely he is to pick you and and be loyal. To be more open to average guys would be a reasonable strategy if getting a boyfriend is the goal. Of course, saying that good looking people are morally bad is absurd, but the trend is there. It's hard to feel any sympathy at all for a girl who was dumped by one womanizer and other and another since she only goes for men with that level of attractiveness. At that point it is a choice of strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:30 PM
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remove the status and fame and have an identical to jack black hobo, women wouldn't want him around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:11 PM
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money and fame compensate for looks, women love status. Without it he just a fat hobo. Same way as RJ Mitte can compensate for being disabled thanks to breaking bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:07 PM
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fat -> ugly = creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:59 PM
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creepy just means the guy is ugly, you have no way to explain it otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:56 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:22 PM
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big -can- without any type of correlation. Good job, female.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:16 AM
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And that does not contradict in any way that, if we take women as people and not as giant babies, it is up for the women to make these choices. To choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:16 AM
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I don't hope it. Objectively it's up to the woman to make those choices, to avoid those kind of situations and to leave them when necessary. Either we treat women as people with agency or we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:11 AM
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then why be offended at the notion of not being retarded and not choosing bad partners? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:03 AM
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are you able to acknowledge that the male attackers and male victims are not part of the same group?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:37 AM

then why should he stay with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:33 AM

Big assumption of men liking Taylor Swift
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:08 AM
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Now see it from the other side: why should I keep waiting for the sake of someone who has gladly not waited at all before? Why be the one paying steak prices (months of LTR and dates) for ramen (delayed sex or even not sex at all)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:56 AM
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I didn't know that having a penis impedes a person to be a stranger to another person who also has a penis. You're such a fucking genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:49 AM
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The magical world of femiTARDS where men have a huge wage gap above women, should be the ones expected to pay for dates and gifts for women (because otherwise, what do they bring to her table?) and birth rates are dropping (which is a good thing because women are free to choose) but at the same time men are not providing anything and muh childcare labor despite they brag about dying with 30 cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:46 AM
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your first reaction to this topic was "but they're being attacked by men" as if that made it less important, that's all I need to see where you stand on. Username bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:42 AM
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I just read your username
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:41 AM
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Keep choosing wrong and keep getting abused, it's literally up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:40 AM
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sure I believe you, "bitch" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:38 AM
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lol sure I believe your fake sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:38 AM
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Yep. It is not important that an innocent person died, because he had a penis. And then they get offended when we talk about having the same kindness towards female strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:37 AM
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most men being victims is rarely discussed because you don't see men as human beings nor do care about them. At least take the mask off
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:36 AM
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and that is relevant because?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:29 AM
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Because by some strange reason that is irrelevant if the attacker is a man too, by their logic. (in reality they're projecting their hivemind on us)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:28 AM
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maybe, dates tend to cost more money and time han job interviews
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:28 AM

I would be glad with this, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:57 AM

women talk all the time about hating casual sex as they feel used by it and even prefering to stay sexless in many situations so clearly it's not a valid comparison when they admit of valuing sex lower than us
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:56 AM
1

sounds more fair than companies using p.i. for minor jobs candidates
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:31 AM
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That does not concern me nor does it change my outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:57 AM
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I'm going more about relevancy and feats. If we go even back earlier you have the bases of C.S. laid down by male intellectuals like Turing and Shannon. After the hardest parts were made it makes sense to have a lot of pink collar jobs to aid implementing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:27 AM
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If I have the chance I'm not staying. If a lot of time has passed and I had children with her I would stay for the children. And as I like women who are not older than me it would be a very bad sign that a woman I got with had enough time to get pregnant with someone who wasn't involved, give birth and dispose of the child in her teen years. When would have she started having unprotected sex with strangers? Age 14? 15?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:19 AM
0

Programming isn't the only area in Computer Science. You still have the computer networking standards developed by men, the most relevant OS in the world (UNIX, and later GNU, Windows, and Macintosh) developed by men. Hell, even if I click in one of the oldies languages like C I will find out they were developed by men back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:13 AM
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women used to dominate computer science I know COBOL was made by a woman in the early days but ???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:00 AM
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I would be skeptical about it passing as someone with an identity and her own person. Until then it would be more of owning than "dating" but I'm fine with both options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:25 PM
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just the philo buddhist propaganda I needed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:29 AM
0

that's the problem, they get moved too easily and often by emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:15 AM
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Funny how you focus on the word want before the verb to be. Do womyn really treat reality as subjected to human feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:38 AM
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I could literally go on a walk tomorrow and meet local flesh and bone people whose particular native amerindian tongue, formerly illiterate, can be recorded in the latin alphabet and thus be used in books and songs thanks to the labor of jesuits 400 years ago. But go on, you clearly you know what you're talking about tribes you will never meet in your life you fucking labcoat. And ignoring the whataboutism about events from 4 centuries ago. It's a fact that in this era even in a secularized worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:31 AM
1

she thinks "men (of group B) murder men (of group A) more! so you (man of group A) don't complain about men B because you're all the same by the virtue of having a penis" is a valid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:10 AM
11

"religious charity is not valid for stats because... it doesn't ok?" If you're the average academic worker I'm excited for mankind's future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:55 AM
7

Caritas is the second largest charity organization in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:47 AM
9

Why would I view inmigrants of other races/cultures as part of my group?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:36 AM

you could use google and see that America is not the only country with a birth rate below the minimum point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:29 AM

according to you men just go monk fasting mode for days if women don't have divine mercy on them and feed them like babies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:22 PM

everyone cooks and cleans the necessary to not fucking die, women still think they're divinely anointed to do that in the big 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:43 PM
1

women are not having kids in most part of the world so it's becoming less of an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:29 PM
4

it makes sense to hide issues from those one has mostly negative experiences with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:25 AM
6

It's wild how you twist the topic and think this somehow changes the notion that relying on women for support isn't a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:06 AM
1

and yet, many of the men that don't want to cooperate do reproduce, so it´s not a serious threat when you know women don't give a fuck about the moral character of the one who gets them pregnant if he's attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:07 AM
1

the people that can afford it do it, see my first post Why would the attractive people that are able of getting several partners of their liking respect monogamy my point is that this will be even more likely to happen when you don't have a system/religion that incentives monogamy as something morally good (e.g. the buddhist text I quoted). And in modern West with liberalism, where "consent" is what matters most, there are no in incentives for that and thus harems come back and concepts like pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:20 PM
5

There's nothing to be done about it because the gender roles are caused by biological differences
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:09 PM
12

people are biologically wired to see men, specially low class men, as more expendable since in a crisis where most of you tribe dies you can repopulate with a handful men and many women but not backwards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:26 PM
1

traditionally some asian religions allow polygamy and others are pro monogamy. And in cases like India while they traditionally allow polygamy, as they were colonized by a christian country they ended up with the western trend of banning polygamy legally <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:51 PM
1

cultures that follow a religion not limited to monogamy do polygamy, see muslim countries
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:44 PM
2

Attractive men who don't settle down end up not reproducing The vast existence of single mothers proves your thesis wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:40 PM
4

sounds like wishful thinking lol lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:08 AM
5

my point is, what incentives are there for it to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:03 AM
1

>monogamy Why would the attractive people that are able of getting several partners of their liking respect monogamy when we live in an ere where a pro monogamy religion isn't followed and infidelity isn't a crime anymore? And good luck convincing women for true equality and "female to male" chivalry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:50 AM
2

repulsed personally, not sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:04 AM
1

Colorful Dyed Hair as disliked by men as it appears to be online Yes. But remember that liking her person =/= liking for sex. So they will keep getting male attention anyways. Many anime characters have candy-colored hair are often adored for it, if you happen to be fan of this, do you think irl women don't look good with it No, it's an aesthetic for 2D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:03 AM
1

"Your speech is full of maybes, perhaps, and can"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:47 AM
19

Better to accept being a slave to gynocentrism like a good goy I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:43 AM
1

I already told you in my first reply that she was on the wrong for picking a fight deliberately, so this is not a good example of protecting a girlfriend. That guy may be a coward but I don't see it wrong to not get involved in the problem of a literal stranger. The OP was stupid getting involved and I wouldn't want her as a girlfriend if she makes a habit of picking fights needlessly. He should not have let his gf approach them, and let the stranger deal with her own problem. One thing is if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:25 AM
1

Except she won't treat the BB as a king and will make him wait and pay 10 times what the guy who banged in the parking zone of a Subways had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:10 AM
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Hence why we owe them sex and babies because of all that protection they do generously provide in other words if you're in a relationship, as I said: if you want the constant protection from a man either have a boyfriend and make him happy or hire bodyguards The "protective man" did jack shit, even before things got physical why would he? the stranger in the car is not his woman they need to stop acting like they offer us protection they do if you build a relationship with them, not for stranger…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:58 PM
1

The man in the post was her boyfriend, yes, but she wasn't the victim directly. She deliberately picked up a fight with a drunkard for a STRANGER and expected the guy to get involved for the STRANGER girl who his duty doesn't reach to. The OP didn't need that protection until she put herself in danger, which I see as assholish from her part if it was with the intent to make him do the job. Women in the sub are mad because we don't want to be pokemons ordered to fight and potentially die for rand…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:07 PM
1

the men responsible for your protection are your family, and most police officers are men anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:47 PM
6

so you treat him like a pokemon and deliberately pick up a fight in order to have him do it in your place?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:04 PM
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You're making a lot of assumptions, while objectively there are two incentives for the driver to do as she says: It's his job, she's his client. If she gets annoyed by the drunkard she won't pay him and he won't eat next day. There is an electronic record of his full name and picture, her full name, his car record and a travel record. If something happens to her he will be the first person the Law will look for. It's not wise to let this happen. What do you have against women looking out for eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:37 AM
-5

I disagree, it is rare to find a dynamic woman who is single-not-by-choice I agree, femcels aren't real. Not reading the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:30 AM
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she got mad her pokemon didn't want to fight
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:19 AM
1

all women are fucking wonderful!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:17 AM
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Exactly. I don't know why people try to make this anyone else but the driver's responsability. He can be sued for not doing his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:05 AM
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the driver's client is the girl, she's the one paying him and she decides who goes in the car and where to. The driver isn't an NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:04 AM
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the bad choice of attacking an unknown drunkard who you don't know if he carries a weapon. In a bad day the mere attempt of conversation can end up with you dying stabbed 12 times two minutes lates. Life isn't a fucking movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:59 AM
2

not in the US (but America has a high homicide rate anyways)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:55 AM
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If I call an Uber and a stranger insists on going with me in the cab I will tell him to fuck off and the driver won't let us go together since I'm his client and his living depends on me paying him. It's not hard to not be a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:50 AM
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The gf made a bad choice and could have gotten herself killed. For this risk of death one should only step in for a loved one, not for a random girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:45 AM
5

beaten half to death
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:44 AM
0

personality matter most insert fifty lines of "hahahah"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:32 AM
5

The woman can tell the driver to help her, she's an adult and has a mouth. Or are we treating women as children?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:30 AM
0

His responsability to step up in danger is towards his gf, not towards a stranger girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:27 AM
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It's the driver's job to get out a violent dude out of his cab and get the girl safe to her place, he's being paid for it. Plus, there are desincentives to do the crime like several witnesses and the uber record of that travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:20 AM
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no they just took pictures of the poor drunk mofo bleeding his nose on the street and I will probably see news about it soon. In my town you can be killed for anything and he's lucky.. I told my friend I wouldn't have intervened but it's easy to participate when you see everyone else doing it, as it is very unlikely you in particular will get harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:15 AM
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I agree. A friend of mine told me how yesterday outside a bar in downtown a drunk dude was hitten by his girlfriend (because he was cheating), he hit her back and everyone on that street beated him badly including my friend who was just walking by. That's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:03 AM
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I could be charitable and think there are too many women pure of heart like her who would help the woman out of a feeling of sisterhood, but I will assume that they got main character syndrome brainrot, overrating their own strength and ignoring that anyone could die stabbed in a minute for facing the wrong drunkard on the wrong day. Anyway, will they decide if we need to treat women like little children, watching over any of them in public just in case something happens, or as equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:53 AM
14

they take care of the work environment their living depends on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:48 AM
5

aren't the women entitled to, thinking men owe them protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:48 AM

then don't complain about the standard lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:15 AM

you care about supposed double standards. Women are free to stop it by caring about it from men's side too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:05 AM

you're totally free to discourage or despise men who have sex with several women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:59 AM
5

Can you answer why should a man protect a random unrelated woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:55 AM
0

No, but there isn't much difference. Girls from Opus Dei affiliated families I knew dress as hoe-ish as any girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:50 AM
1

you're willingly blind
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:39 AM
-4

I would word it as having the guts to look for our interests in detriment of theirs, but yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:39 AM
1

It really depends on the circumstances and how much I got to knew the guy, I'm willing to go either option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:50 AM
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OP has a military career, is a zionist warmonger and this thread's purpose is to shame american males into dying for Israel's cause <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:16 AM
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Again, your point is null since men who don't serve have sex all the time and your typical female bullshit shaming doesn't work on anyone able to think. You could give an actual argument on why do men who are outcasted should fight and die for women who don't give a fuck about them, or you could save yourself from the embarrassment and delete this psyop thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:17 AM
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If men aren't entitled to sex and love then women aren't entitled to men fighting in wars for their sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:58 AM
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if you have ever had sex with men who didn't serve their countries, then the "women won't have sex with you because you're not serving!" point is bullshit and it's just typical female shaming tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:53 AM
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Make a list for every single time you have asked a man for a receipt of him paying his taxes and a record of him serving before you had sex with him
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:48 AM
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In particular I wouldn't serve in my country knowing that its enemies are the politicians from within and if I were American I wouldn't serve either. And in general I wouldn't serve for any country if I lived in in-celibacy, meaning that I would feel outcasted by the same society that wants my help, fuck em. I would only work for an army (any one, I guess) if they offer to advance my career or sweet money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:03 AM
2

100 people moved by a plan made by 1 people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:51 AM
2

be born as a man and maybe in another context you would weigh it otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:50 AM
2

you just regard them as worse because she has a vagina and they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:30 AM
3

don't ask me lol, but it wasn't "for nothing"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:28 AM
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They did, and she's the whore who organized all that. You just want to call them worse because she has a vagina and people with vaginas can't do no wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:10 PM
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as if it takes energy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:09 PM
2

way to avoid answering a yes/no question just because the subject of the question has a vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:54 PM
1

the pleasure isn't for nothing, the money makes her literally a whore
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:54 PM
-1

do you think it's ok or not to despise her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:20 PM
-1

no but you're defending one who does
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:09 PM
0

why *more*?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:57 PM
1

So, for women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:24 PM
0

it seems reasonable cup can't read or use figurative language
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:23 AM
-1

Sorry for assuming you (or well, women) would actually read the OP and understand he talks about the men who logically and materially maintain the infraestructure you depend on every single day of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:33 PM
-2

funny way to talk about elite groups and rich people (which we aren't allowed to talk about in Cuckddit and much less in this sub) Yeah I'm sure the average incel joe is the one responsible for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:48 PM
1

women are less needy of sex, since it is easier to get it for them. And modern women don't desire children, or much less than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:46 PM
1

the current young generation in the west is the most sexless one ever reported in human history, even if we live in irreligious times. Go figure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:44 PM
1

sex and validation. reproduction and house care for those that want a family
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:16 PM
1

Do you understand that you can't force men to be nice towards women and be there for them after getting rejected? lol Everyone needs an incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:14 PM
1

do you know what an outlier means
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:52 PM
-3

if men organize themselves and even 10% of the boycotts women threat to do (e.g. 4B) the world would shake like before
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:50 PM
1

pretending to be idiotic and not answering within the context of the topic, nice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:17 AM
0

sounds like praying directly for winning a lottery instead of a successful career or business
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:59 AM
3

I don't think I have ever known a young woman who is properly conservative IRL so it's hard to make a comparison, but I will go for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:49 AM
2

they are still closer to the average women than whatever bullshit essay you post here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:25 AM
3

funny how you don't have an actual answer against him and just spit typical deadbrain female answers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:23 AM
2

Good summary, well put. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:34 PM
2

if I asked you what qualifies as better and why should men go through that and keep pushing with questions, eventually you would say what I just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:03 PM
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"Just work hard for the economy bro spend another 10 years for a phd bro please feed the big Mammon with your life for a vague chance of women liking you bro it's for the pussy bro don't you wanna worship teh pussy in our altar bro? you can't stay inside doing what you like in your free time bro just fake a personality to their liking forever it's totally worth it bro believe me bro" Yeah convince me we don't live in gynocentric times. Plus all the "women find educated people hot!" bs falls apar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:34 AM
1

Absolutely yes. Little perks like condoms just feel like consolation prizes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:03 PM
2

0 why cow milk etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 10:59 PM
2

I guess you mean "non pathological"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:31 PM
1

I would have thought red pill is about family values, not gender dynamics and power. I would have thought red pill would understand and even celebrate women for undertaking the incredible challenges of menarche, pregnancy (including infertility, IVF, issues like PCOS, miscarriages, abortion), childbirth, postpartum recovery, and child rearing to build their families then you should look into christian or conservative communities, your impressions are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:31 AM
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barely existent, akin to job hunting as other user said
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:56 AM
1

if they don't want to work it's a fair risk, it's up to them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:30 PM
1

It's sending the wrong message to young girls who are eating this up on social media and the wrong message is....?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:26 AM
5

ammount of women that get with a man they're not really into just because they give head: 0
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:53 AM
4

one day women admit about practicing AF/BB and the next day they deny it and complain men talk about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:05 AM
1

I'm struggling to see if you're baiting or not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:37 AM
3

Why is that you guys think that women choosing men for financial reasons over aesthetic reasons means that the woman finds the man unnattractive? read your introductory sentence very slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:19 AM
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"X does not exist. It just is... (describes X happening)" High IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:41 AM
6

"just approach women... but don't approach women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:29 PM
4

funny how an ex told me her mom misses me as a son in law and acknowledges me as a good option objectively. Yeah fuck that, actions > words
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:59 PM
2

rare for a person to be able to provide and protect without a functional social life nor decent hygene
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:54 PM
2

wouldn't call it the bottom in OP's hypothetical scenario of having a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:52 PM

why don't you answer his question you dishonest retard?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:19 AM
1

in practice that translates to stop picking women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:16 AM
3

and yet women would want it the other way if given the chance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:56 AM

you mean, the half of the global population who tend to be more diverse in thought and customs?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:41 AM
5

by whose metrics? women's metrics looking for a provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:38 AM
9

because "hey you should cut down the big burgers and shower every two days" is the same as "yeah he hit me and he deals drugs but I can fix him!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:37 AM

Do you have the two neurons required to visualize two groups of men, one hating OF and the other one paying OF, being different? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:21 AM
2

you have never enjoyed a NEET era and it shows lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:19 AM
3

you say it as if many if most women don't want their husbands to pay the bills lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:15 AM
2

Short answer Yes. Would I fuck and keep her company? Yes, even if I had to make an effort to change her ways a la NHK. Would I give her a change to be my girlfriend? Yes Would I stay in the long run? If she's willing to have my children, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:09 AM
1

I did. If you don't get it just call it a day and spare yourself from being called a retard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 05:48 PM
6

because women don't shut their mouth about how empathetic and angelic they are, that's why we point it out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:14 AM
3

I don't see how is it wrong in the message "you're not that good stop making excuses on why he doesn't put a ring on your mid ass lmao"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:06 AM
5

ugly men are way more willing to accept dates and a relationship for sex instead of standing their ground
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:53 AM
2

The only non active romantically girls I know are those in conservative households where they don't let them hang out freely by themselves. And they still receive attention from men so not truly invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:45 AM
5

You're not mentioning the main point that disgusts men: the idea of her having sex with local men of every country they visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:40 AM

I talk about sexual desire
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:21 AM

so you admit they actually desire the guys they have flings with lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:27 AM
1

yeah it's really weird how this question usually comes from people on the left, they should get it easily if their minds were not clouded by gynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:20 AM
1

So I should always trust women because they have vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:03 AM
1

it worked within the context of religions, oaths are religious acts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:50 AM
3

key word -meant-
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:33 AM
4

Yes, women are capable of lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:12 AM
4

the standards are high when you're not attractive enough, they throw them out for the right body
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:11 AM
8

based
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:49 AM
8

why do you even post here too then? it's the internet and we have free time that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:48 AM
7

Just say you're retarded and delete your embarrassing thread lil bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:59 AM
1

for a man willing to stand an overgrown female baby
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:27 AM
6

Most men do not murder. Most people that murder, are men. These two things are both true If you cannot get this, your IQ is below 100 and your words on the topic are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:19 AM
2

I agree that we should treat women as mental babies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:17 AM
4

I don't expect my dog to talk to me, while women are capable of talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:03 AM
1

It is horrifying for you, lol. Go get cats and let the world be inherited by the ones that want to actually have families.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:50 AM
4

You could give actual advice in order to support your point, but you will die without ever doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:45 AM
18

It's not the only thing, but it may be the most important thing for a lot of us. I sure as hell wouldn't date a girl who doesn't want to have sex with me and women need to know that. Then you have a lot of women that get surprised when they learn the guys giving them flowers don't give a fuck about the flowers and want sex as their nature dictates. "What? What do you mean you don't get pleasure at the act of spending your money on me for nothing in return?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:14 AM
3

It's not contradictory. A minority of X can do that thing and be most of the people that do the thing if there is an overall small population who do the thing. Did you even pass high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:54 AM
14

Bait or retardation? >They'll say "most men" and then refer to themselves saying how they don't want to harm a woman, but when faced with statistics on how men can and have treated women, they deny it ever happened. Do you know that "most X don't do that", and "most people that do that are X" are not contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:02 PM
4

now you're talking about retarded single mothers being retarded single mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:32 AM
5

that's implying pick mes are actually pickme-ing for any man and not virtue signaling within pro men circles
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:49 AM
1

That Korean women don't use Tinder and probably foreigners use it looking for quick asian women? At least that's what I would do if I went to Korea
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:12 AM
4

I see the point more as "angry women are politically impotent because they stay as keyboard figures and are afraid to use violence while there are more men willing to kill before dying"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:43 PM
1

how do you oppress people by sayin the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:24 PM
7

that quote seems to be more about working class vs ruling class than genders
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:18 PM
1

you didn't understand his point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:16 PM
2

Will they try? Maybe, if they stick their heads out of their asses instead of insulting men and treat them like demons. I mean they already made that cringy ad of men for kamala. Will they succeed? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:14 PM
5

I just want a quickie, as her 1038204 exes did to but she was sure they were the one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:35 AM
3

Orphans aren't entitled to a father
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:29 AM
0

they aren't your children in the first place lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:28 AM

inverted mountain
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:31 PM

I don't care for them as long as they don't expect committed relationships from me, as one did some time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:22 PM

Neither
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:20 PM
2

supply and demand dynamics, or they prefer other rewards like romantic dates
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:19 PM

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/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:17 PM
9

In my town at least 10, it's not a big place and I go on my way to interact with the least women possible so I know they're not outliers among young women. Even the ones who are in the trans umbrella and wish to be men themselves. Even among a couple girls who are friendly to me they express "I hate men. Men are shit. They should die. They are all like that. You should kick them at the balls" comments
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:49 AM
1

if western women had the discipline and autism to live a 4B life there wouldn't be thousands of single mamas
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:35 AM
5

maga zoomers will just lie for an ONS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:06 AM
2

tubal ligation is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:55 AM
1

You should ask your local lawyer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:23 AM
5

it can be both things simultaneously
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:18 AM
3

They like fuckboys, otherwise they wouldn't reward them with sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:50 AM
3

You really think most men are RP? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:18 PM
3

The internet is full of thousands of men talking about not getting matches on apps and how their algorithms work. The 10 men you personally know are either a lie, or outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:36 PM
2

if they were religious at least I would understand them telling you to go for the normal route of marriage. But they truly offer you nothing and say you should either stay complacent while rejected and be nice to women for nothing (male feminists and such) or go the extra mile to become the best you can so you can give it to a subpar option in their worst years (BB)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:28 PM
9

it is true for most men who use those apps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:41 PM
3

is it relevant if the dark triad men never suffered the consequences of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:39 PM
2

Be nicer and not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:52 PM
2

You're right, be it 3B then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:37 PM
5

even if maga women exist they're still females with their average preferences and lots of young men would still get no pussy they're not getting from maga women today. Maga women aren't having pity sex with the maga men they find unattractive just because they're in the same side
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:34 PM
1

Is your account a false flag in order to make women activists look stupid? You're confirming the manosphere idea that you just want monopoly on men's attention and resources while giving nothing worthy in exchange, under the PATHETIC excuse of "protecting women". Western males need to step up and rise to the occasion. Men 👏 don't 👏 owe 👏 you 👏 relationships, femcel. Our standards are not that high. The bar is in hell. Yet you can't get committed relationships despite wanting to, curious. A law s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:27 PM
1

In the hypothetical case a 4B movement took off, which it won't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:19 PM
0

And that is relevant with 4B having no effect because?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:03 PM
12

A looot of young men are not having casual sex. And birth rates are dropping in most of the West since decades. Again, no much would change from what is going on right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:50 PM
2

So 4B is no dating, no marriage, no sex and no childbirth No much different from what's happening in the West since a while. Except no more goldiggers dating for foodies, that sounds good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:00 PM
1

No, because women are weak as fuck* Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:43 PM
1

murdered by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:01 PM
-1

Good
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:20 AM
1

A beats B, A beats A Therefore B is not weaker than A. Is that your women logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:20 AM
-2

Women are so no-weak that they get stumped and murdered easily lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:27 AM
-2

if nature gave me that weakness and made me weaker in general I would be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:10 AM
-1

I would be like that if I had to endure listening to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:10 AM
-7

Men are not the ones that go "I hate everyone, I'm bleeding I want everyone death" in a somewhat stable cycle every month for most part of their lives ever since puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:51 AM
10

There is no solution. A lot if not most women will reject most men, share the few men most of them like, then get dumped by chad who dicked her and surprisingly didn't want to settle down with a nothingburger woman of the 7 he fucks, cry about only being wanted for sex, complain about why the men she doesn't want aren't providing her protection/favors/attention, and have 3 options: a) remain single, le wine and cats b) settle down with a man she despises c) accept her plaything status and go bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:48 AM
7

I think there is a big difference between "I couldn't marry Megan Fox (while most women didn't care about me anyways)" and "a lot of men wanted me but they gave me the ick, I wanted to marry this hot rich guy who dicked me but he dumped me so I know have to settle for Bob"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:31 AM
1

No guy says "Damn I hate this woman but she can cook so I will keep her around". Cooking is a no brainer and if I have the money to support a wife I have the money to buy a dishwasher o hire a maid and live with peace. He may keep her for sex and kids more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:38 AM
1

RP/BP. I'm not supporting it ever. Asking me to support a movement that antagonizes me from birth is stupid. the crazy ones aren't actual feminists! Simply wrong. Old school feminists wrote things like the SCUM. Valerie Solanas wasn't a 2010s "fake" feminist. I'm talking about muh actual feminism Sounds like the "it wasn't actual communism, those 3 million farmers who starved to death are wasted eggs for an omelette" point. Either the good ones are a minority or they don't care enough for not le…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:12 PM
1

Are this traditional af women in this half of the planet with us, right now? lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:51 PM
1

Because sex is good, why would I want an actual relationship with most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:41 PM
1

no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:17 AM
0

Also I want to point out that less than one percent of humans live to their full expected life expectancy without having ever had sex. Because prostitution, which you want to abolish, exists. Coming of age rite of having your first time with a prostitute has been a thing since forever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:10 AM
1

they are, not even normal sluts are good at it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:08 AM
-1

based, screw the longhouse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:02 AM
1

Going to bars as a sexual strategy for men sounds so ineffective and out of touch that it makes me think less of older people as a whole when they say it as an advice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:52 AM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:13 PM
1

not likely
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:28 PM
-1

25 when I'm 30, 28 when I'm 35, 30 when I'm 40 I'm to sleepy now to think on a formula
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:06 AM
1

not older than me unless it's for a quickie
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:46 AM
16

It's common sense. The other person will not come after you for taking their offspring if they're dead
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:20 AM
1

Sex is a reward as any other pleasure or thing people like, and women are not entitled to safety (pro tip: no one is owed anything at all). Keep seething
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:44 AM
1

when dating, do you factor in how attractive she is to others? No. In fact I don't want other men looking at her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:12 AM
2

I don't know if dysfunctional but they are less mentally stable and ready to walk out of obviously bad situations
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:20 AM
1

no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:49 AM

Pathologic user
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:56 AM
5

obese women from ghettos and in debt think models, athletes and multi millionaires are their fair match LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:50 AM
6

very high standards that they have sex with the fuckboys who despise them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:09 AM
-1

nah many despise the sluts we fuck too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:30 AM

a woman crying "fuckboy" is complaining about chad not committing to her after sex, not about his promiscuity prior to meeting her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:59 AM
1

50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:35 AM
3

you're speaking for all grandpas cheating with young women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:11 PM
2

I didn't know you had cameras on every grandpa on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:02 PM
2

What do you mean by "hate"? I can use "hate" for a person I want to murder, but women say you hate them when: You don't want to date single mothers You don't want to befriend them You stop seeking them after sex is off the table You have sex with them but do not commit You say you like younger women etc. They also think you love one of them if you have sex with her ("You love sluts!") But yeah I dislike them, or am apathetic to them, don't consider them as friends nor relationship material, woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:02 PM
6

I didn't know all those grandpas with erectyle dysfunction, decaying muscles and in risk of dying if they bump against anything were banging Stayces every week. Take your pills for schizophrenia or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:54 AM
-1

I don't know if your little head is able to grasp the concept of lust fading out with age when they become grandpas and move on to other stages of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:48 AM
3

I didn't know both of my grandmas were dumped at 50 lmao and feels he some how owes you to stick around because he's "in debt" to you because you stupidly gave him your youth. Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:43 AM
-1

lol at the "everyone deserves a medal for participating" mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:08 AM
-2

A lot if not most people in service jobs are "losers". Nobody says, "wow my dream is to serve reheated pizza at Chuck E cheese"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:53 AM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:35 AM
1

it's not their father
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:40 AM
4

libertarian can go from "I don't like paying 1/4 of my income on taxes" to "Yeah I want to marry my daughter while we do cocaine and name our child Megatron"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:29 AM
1

do you follow MBTI or astrology? Classifying people in grecoroman, biblical and jungian archetypes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:24 AM
1

When it is capable of grasping those concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:47 AM
2

Because it's not my child and not my duty
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:04 AM
1

Better than to be a cuck pill man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:03 AM
2

You're just trying to defend women no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:03 AM
3

She knows hers, and she potentially commits fraud by omitting the info of being other sexual partners on that time range
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:52 AM
0

"Your mother is a whore, your existence is a mistake and fruit of a betrayal. You should ask your mother why she did that and why she opened her legs to your dad instead of marrying him" There, not hard at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:50 AM
4

the mere fact the it could be someone's else kid while they were married is bad enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:06 AM
1

Another whole thread of evidence of women and bluepillers in the comments saying that the moral thing is to be cucked followed by "yeah of course fraud is wrong, who would say otherwise? you're making up stuff"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:58 PM
1

that is not their children, that's the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:56 PM
1

Be glad we don't live in an ancient world where it would be killed and the mother stoned
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:50 PM

What am I gonna do, get dicked? Menstruate? Post about how I hate everyone at PMS? What's special about being a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:43 AM

I would be bored as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:23 AM

You're the one caring about the human race as a whole lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:49 AM

Imagine caring for the human race as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:42 AM

"Would you take a more privileged position if you could?" Of course I would
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:24 AM

I don't have sex experience with not-crazy women to compare
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:28 AM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:24 AM

if I ever went to prison I would lose all the already little interest I have to participate in democracy tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:57 AM

Finally understanding the notion of culture appropriation now that they shat on the Joker movie with the lady gaga sequel, we can't have shit. Can't wait for a female friend/mate to talk pretending it's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:38 AM
2

"just get friends bro!" in the same level as "have you thought of getting a shower?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:11 AM
1

As an example, if someone gets Cs in all of their coursework in high school, we wouldn't tell them to just quit school because they aren't as academically gifted as their peers I would, push him to the HS degree because you're coerced to have one in the modern system but after that I would tell him college is probably not for him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:55 AM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzbtdclsJXw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:08 AM
1

women looking for their best interest = good! men looking for their best interest = bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:51 PM
7

RP is about having sex, not about making the world better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:01 PM
2

I suppose you video record of women inventing stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:42 PM
1

and as valid as your statement
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:51 PM
1

you will only make excuses for any kind of criminals, so serve yourself and enjoy the day one of them turns you into a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:51 AM
1

asians are a poor demographic in new york and are still less violent than many other ones
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:10 AM
1

Some of the most dangerous places in the world are also homogenous. homogeneous on the violent ethnicities / genetic groups I can't name out here, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:58 AM
2

source: Times New Roman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:31 AM
0

forcefully castrate their descendence too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:57 AM
1

It's not poverty, it's diversity and probably genetics. Some of the safest places in the world are homogeneous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:53 AM
1

That's not up to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:00 AM
1

Women are free to give a fuck about it and consider them ruined too (spoiker they won't)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:51 AM
1

I will live enough time to be called white by liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:44 AM
-1

Those are not good points. I can be the first man of a woman and be the only one for the rest of her life and our sex can be good. Fucking several men is not a requisite for being good at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:38 AM
0

there are genes related to violence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:33 AM
2

Of course it is a woman advocating for "non-punitive justice" https://i.redd.it/wh1gm4mwp0xc1.png
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:26 AM
2

You could narrow it down with certain races/ethnicities and get an even bigger overrepresentation and so a more meaningful discussion but it would be banned here and shunned in public discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:20 AM
-1

So they can justify their own promiscuity or do marketing for themselves in the dating market: "You want good sex in a LTR yet you reject high n count women for a LTR. Curious" "How do you expect good sex from a virgin gf?" = ("You should be grateful she practiced sucking 20 guys before you!") "Men say they hate whores yet they like good sex on bed. Curious" "Be happy with a lifetime of boring missionary sex or a deadroom" Or some variation of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:18 AM
1

When I was younger, I was a strong advocate for respecting women. I genuinely appreciated women as individuals, sympathized with their issues, and even spent time reading and learning about feminism. Everyone goes through lows Do they believe there will always be a cuck or simp waiting for them when they hit 30? Yes why do they repeatedly choose poorly? They don't even think they choose them, they want to feel as chosen. For them romance is received
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:06 AM
-1

0 reading comprehension on your part
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:55 PM
1

women online think that a woman being capable to have good sex with his stable man = slut so we can't want that from a traditional/low bodycount wife
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:09 PM
0

Depends if I want to have children with a particular woman or not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:00 PM
1

0% worldwide rape rate is biologically impossible too if you want to go that way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:52 PM
3

sounds like someone needs to justify their tax funded salary wasted on bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:49 PM
1

and your thread wasn't labeled as a debate, it was labeled in order for men to express themselves lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:47 PM
1

if you don't like male opinion then don't ask for male opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:50 AM
2

It's ok to disagree, it's stupid to demand a different answer from the one they give because the purpose of a question is to get the truth out of it. If you don't like men's opinions on X topic, asking them about X is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:24 AM
3

Women mad at an honest answer in a thread asking men, epic shitty sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:14 AM
0

Your grandma speaks wisely and it won't change in 100 years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:51 AM
4

You shouldn't ask a question if you don't like the honest answer 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:58 PM
0

I want a low bodycount bangmaid who bears my children. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:50 PM
15

See how dozens of women will do quintuplet mental gymnastics in order to uphold their discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:31 PM
1

https://np.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/11s6chm/disc_a_manga_about_the_mysterious_numbers_above/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:11 PM

The answer to being friendzoned is to fuck off from there, men not wooing you after sex is off the table is part of life :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:35 AM
0

I tried to vote for all male candidates in my country's past elections, I think there are many men like me but not enough to make the glass real
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:30 AM

you would be amused with the amount of single mothers and "hidden families" men have in Mexico and similar countries lol, not a heavy monogamist culture
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:22 AM

Yep, morals don't exist in a vacuum and humanism isn't as intuititve as modern people think
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:13 AM
0

More like 40s. 30s feel like young people yet and rejected me on age basis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:06 AM
-1

You've got a magic wand N count number above each person's head in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:59 AM

They can have it, I can’t do anything about it, but constantly being bombarded by this message is depressing. Boo hoo, want a tissue? Women don't care about men either I know my comments will be filled with redpilled men saying it’s the same as women not being attracted to short men. I don’t believe it is though Of course you don't, it's not convenient for you She‘ll continue to be attracted to him as he ages. Which is irrelevant if the bar to get into that is high. Plus you're not factoring her…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 12:26 AM
1

I'm experiencing it in the last 2 months
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 12:20 AM
0

dramatic people with vaginas are only fun in the bed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:32 PM
1

I don't expect a lot from women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:23 PM

going the full circle back to conservative values on sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:17 PM

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:57 PM

what if she's single
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:56 PM

are you a cuck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:55 PM
-4

and women are supposed to be more humane with their maternal instinct and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:39 PM
1

How do you handle this joke? “It’s so hard being a woman”How do you handle this joke? “It’s so hard being a woman” <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:22 PM
1

contraceptives aren't needed in a world where women have the right to get abortions as healthcare, as feminists dreamed ❤️❤️❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:17 PM
2

this isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:13 PM
1

you think of children as interchangeable pokemon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:05 PM
-1

you could abort then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:00 PM
0

I would sue her for child support
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:57 PM
0

women talk about lying here and in all reddit all the time, they're not saints nor good people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:53 PM
2

Women's advice is plain worthless in general. They're used to having people taking care of them and giving them stuff since they're children and they don't grow out of that, they're not the proactive ones in looking for a relationship so they don't have an idea of how it works. fish fisher etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:52 PM
2

Women insist we can't tell and they lie anyway. Plus they're independent and strong and earn their money and need no man so not really a cost to not be able to get a serious husband later.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:40 PM
2

women lie anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:34 PM
1

I have old friends, male friends. There is no need to make new female friends after getting a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:19 PM
2

based af
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:33 AM
3

why would you be friends with a dude you find weird and creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:15 AM
1

the based commandments
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:12 AM

as God intended
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:10 AM
1

the difference is that one is forced by circumstances to be around friend's gfs, in-laws and coworkers. I didn't choose to know that hot girl via my friend, I made my friend and he later dated her, same with the other cases. Meanwhile having a woman as your direct friend is by choice, befriending that girl I desire sounds like a bad choice and a hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:06 AM
0

if I had a fulfilling life with a gf why would I spend my free time looking for female friends instead of spending it with my gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:02 AM
6

Man, what I’m getting here with this is that the ultimate goal is to be a fuck boi with no strings attached and that vibing with women on everyday activities is wack? Yes I always tell guys this: go outside, walk down a busy sidewalk, how many women catch your eye that you’ll want to go up to and talk to? 5 out of 10 and the other 5 are probably too old
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:00 AM
3

life really isn't worse without most of them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:45 AM
1

personality wise yes, resource wise no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:11 AM
1

is there anything worse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:27 AM
1

I know she hates doing it and will rage at anyone who uses the word prostitute to her instead of an euphemism and she looks for monogamous relations. She tries to live off selling pics but every year or two will have a prostitution season to deal with an emergency or for a luxury like flying to a concert. So I'm adding normal young lib woman n count + the minimum prostitution sales in order to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:24 AM
5

You mean a logic like "well one of my children may not be mine but at least I have one or two bastard children around"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:12 AM
1

20 year old stoner I know must be in 30s as she has prostituted herself since 16/17 to live
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:10 AM

We don't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:18 AM

I do, fanfic culture and even innocent shit like jujutsu kaisen is gross and annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:16 AM

"You're the first guy to treat me well now I will text you 24/7 and push you to do everything the other guys didn't" Yeah I wonder why they didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:14 AM
3

Amount of girls I have witnessed to help her guy friend to get laid, get a job, start a business with, or something as simple as a free ride: 0
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:40 AM
1

You could try to visit one of your grandkids household and adopt them as some women said in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:55 PM
10

KEK
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:42 AM
0

don't women have a preference for having you flesh and blood descendants over random adopted kids like normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:57 AM
1

you should add the grandchildren factor: a case in which one dies virgin, a case in which he adopts, a case in which he can only have children as a sperm donor, a case in which he has stepkids of a single mom who settled down; versus the womanizer having plenty of kids
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:23 AM
8

what about single men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:11 AM
3

This but unironically without the /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:10 AM
2

women have never lied lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:16 PM
2

I want to go to this parallel world were women don't lie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:10 PM
7

Convince me how prostitution doesn't hold a social value in world where women are turned off by the fact you didn't have sex in your teen years or 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:01 PM
4

cynical doesn't mean wrong, he's not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:52 PM
3

easier to manipulate = are hotter, kinder, not bitchy and not demanding you to give them the world just for the chance of being around them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:51 PM
0

if women will try low effort gotchas and personal attacks like "u don't got a gf" then I don't have problem with punching back at the sisterhood
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:38 PM
3

women should stop saying looks don't matter then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:34 PM
2

it's the being unattractive part, compared to attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:35 AM
1

it's called an analogy, the point is to illustrate competition and in built disadvantages. Do you think it's unreasonable for a guy with a weak heart to feel prone to lose in a race compared to normal people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:12 AM
12

I agree. Women I know to be losers, depressed, incapable of holding down relationships etc. had awful traits like being physically disabled, poor, separated from their nuclear family, raped as minors or drug addicted. While a nerdy, 5'6, babyfaced, low-medium class IT guy has enough to be a loser and be down in the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:37 AM
3

"you don't have a gf so you don't have a point"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:08 AM
2

already got my hole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:01 AM
1

your personal attack didn't work and now you resort to emojis
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 07:00 AM
2

mine admitted to like me physically and disliking short men unlike all the dishonest people here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:47 AM
2

is someone born without legs not determined to lose races just because there are some disabled only races?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:42 AM
3

I would find that more honest and useful
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:39 AM
4

men are not the ones that get angry and enter in public denial when someone says "yeah men do like big boobed women"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:31 AM
1

They're the most important thing, anyone saying otherwise is coping or giving you misinformation deliberately, so which one are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:29 AM
9

I don't expect you to care, I expect you to stop the AWAW bs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:30 AM
2

that just sounds AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:24 AM
4

your gender isn't more empathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:23 AM
5

so you admit women are shallow/materialistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:23 AM
7

They're the most important thing, anyone saying otherwise is coping or giving you misinformation deliberately
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 12:36 AM
12

when it's convenient for their narrative they do or do not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:17 PM
6

to pretend to care about the person and not about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:13 PM
12

gonna gaslight myself to pretend that years of all women are wonderful and more humane and empathetic narrative didn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:00 PM
26

women/bluepill tell you that women are not shallow/materialistic and thus looks and money are not important, just be yourself bro!; they also tell you that you should improve on all that so you can reach women's bar and have a chance to date them. Both things cannot be true simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:47 PM
1

you're really naive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:08 PM
2

I already know that, women know that too but like this person they will just keep doing mental gymnastics around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:36 PM
0

Not if it's positive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:47 AM
0

you can't know that until he grows up years later
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:39 AM
0

so no long term wife have cheated before?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:34 AM
-1

Only if gets negative, twice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:33 AM
4

ammount of women that have been turned on by telling them that I didn't have a gf before: 0 while there are women that have allowed me to go further with them even in the same day I talked about experiences with other women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:28 AM
9

same as with jobs, pure luck or inborn attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:23 AM
0

most women have more female than male friends and they don't expect "gentleman behaviour" from their female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:55 AM
3

would rather be with people they know and enjoy the company of than a strange man This just means to consider their company to be more valuable, I don't know why it tickles you to admit that 2 plus 2 equals 4. If I would rather be with person B over person A, I consider B's company to be more valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:33 AM
8

"It's not that other women consider other women's company to be more valuable, they just consider other women's company to be more valuable"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:29 AM
4

so you agree with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:16 AM
1

life gets better when people treat you nicely for being a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:58 AM
4

that's 90% of BP/women advice here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:54 AM
2

if virgin and old fuck a prostitute and say you only had a hook up time ago while you're undressing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:50 AM
1

I just find your words to him too woman centric
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:46 AM
2

optimism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:40 AM
5

yep, it's a market at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:37 AM
6

same laws, like the draft?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:42 PM
3

sounds more like pimping
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:29 AM
2

sorry for not having experience taking dick in other to rate it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:09 AM
7

I wonder how many of the women that demand low-sex-high-romance love are virgins and didn't have casual sex in the past lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:02 AM
1

getting laid once or twice a year sounds like the curse of someone who can only get it with prostitution (escortcels), not a pretty status to choose
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:00 AM
1

Sex girl I really like > sex > romance in general
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:56 PM
0

when I'm in an awful person competition and my opponent is a white knight
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:36 PM
4

weird BP propaganda part
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:05 AM
12

why would anyone hit on someone they don't think likes them back
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:06 AM
-1

"Don't you dare to keep money in secret, but I'm keeping this money YOU earned just in case tee hee"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:05 AM
0

works better than being BP and being an ally to women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:27 PM
0

/jk about "trans people were former incels" chemical castration must hurt too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:19 PM
0

That’s the key word I keep hearing from my single female friends they're both single and female so...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:16 PM
2

I think the missing factor is getting background/girlfriend history in your "dating CV" even if its shitty women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:03 PM
0

and so, another trans sister is born
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:00 PM
2

notallwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:57 PM

you forget the "yeah women likes you less than the other guys but it's actually your fault and you should be grateful they want you as their safety plan F"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:34 PM
2

"why don't men trust us?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:15 PM

I think women are more willing to settle in their 40s than in 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:08 PM
6

You're being objetively scammed out of your money and time given for a child who is not yours
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:01 PM
3

it's financial and social abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:28 PM
6

paternity test is a safety seal that your money is actually going to your offspring and you're not getting scammed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:24 PM
2

keeping a hidden bank account not a lawyer but this sounds potentially illegal if you're married normally sharing assets and get to divorce given divorce rates Yeah, most initiated by women keep good documentation of her husband's assets and the family finances and this sounds kinda hypocrital in the same post where you worry about divorce rates and keeping hidden money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:17 PM
10

do you think nerds in the 60s before pornhub existed slayed pussy around? Undesirable males are undesirable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:19 AM
1

I have no idea. For my parents it was but current youth is just too rotted. I think it will depend on how much will dudes will be willing to settle in 10 or 20 years. 50/50 maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:12 PM
1

for men that aren't religious or marriage oriented, which is most young men, it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:07 PM
3

I don't need to be arrested for my life to be ruined by them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:58 PM
9

it's a symptom, a teenager who had a sexual partner as a teenager wouldn't feel compelled to that vice in the same way a single one and would have less free time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:51 PM
3

I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:59 PM
55

getting convinced on having women friends now....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:02 PM
3

Where I live the police doesn't take sexual crimes seriously in general, in response the feminist groups made viral movements to cancel men in both virtual and physical spaces and everyone takes it seriously even when there is no evidence attached, and it's not a huge city. So while legal consequences are rare the social consequences for being the weird guy in college or for texting a girl are not small, you can get fired, marked by HR files, locked from jobs, kicked off hobbie groups etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:44 AM
3

if it was a girl I liked a lot and wanted to marry in the future I would be disgusted. If it was a meh gf then I would be happy to oblige while we're together. Either way I wouldn't stay there forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:30 PM
25

morphine doesn't cure things and is still a useful thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:50 PM
31

+1, modern porn didn't exist in the most patriarchal eras
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:48 PM
19

and shouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:43 PM
50

This is what women like OP don't understand. Do they think most porn addicts had often normal sex and ruin it with porn just because? It's reasonable for a guy who was rejected by a dozen women to spend his time with an outlet instead of failing again, be it porn, videogames, prostitution etc. Funny that she talks about lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:40 PM
0

the prostate cancer is a meme, and I wouldn't weigh it against masturbation cons like nutritional deficiency
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:12 PM
2

do you think there is a lot of virgin men post age 12 that have never jerked off or watched porn? Very few asexual men out there, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:02 PM
17

and women aren't entitled to men limiting their sexuality and not looking at porn to relief themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:59 PM

this is not a postgrad department
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:53 PM
5

doctors don't say that, not most of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:50 PM
88

I don't think porn is harmless but Is porn destroying how men and women relate to one another? Does it play a part in the "male loneliness epidemic" or the incel movement? is wrong and wishful. If I'm considered unattractive and get 0 luck with women in a period of 3 years, that wouldn't change at all just because I did nofap for those 3 years. Women don't have a magical ability to detect when was the last time you watched porn and reject you based in that. And telling men with no luck to avoid …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:50 PM
1

can someone think in the poor 20 year old children?1!1
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:00 PM
3

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:59 PM
-2

Would 20 year old me agree with me? No. (...) it would look to such an outside observer that I was “settling”. Enough said
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:36 AM
-2

not your hugbox
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:35 AM
7

le just be confident bro I know a gazillion 400 lbs nikocados with playboy model gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:48 AM
2

cool it down with the misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:57 PM
4

And like clockwork OP and other women came to downplay these experiences, or to say that the guys deserved it for being sex crazed or something. LMFAO I am curious because I never noticed Of course you don't, you just don't care or you even find it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:34 AM
-1

I'm not a chad and I can find one per year in average
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:23 AM
0

Consciously they want to apply an AF/BB scheme because they feel their time is running up and/or they actually desire romance. Unconsciously they get moments of weakness and have a fucked up brain chemistry, it's hard for people to change. A man can discern this and avoid getting the AF/BB he gets vocally proposed at first
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:59 AM
-1

plenty of girls look for the safe option and do deny you sex at first, if a guy gives up ends in a AF/BB position but if he judges correctly and makes his move he can exploit the chance and be another of the guys in her destructive cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:52 AM
1

The point is that they are temporary easy/horny due to a low impulse control, and it even may have to do brain structure and patterns, not because they see you as a chad when they're "sober" so to speak. Most girls would see you as gross but that particular girl would see you as a viable option in a moment of weakness, thus the "jump through hops and stick around" advice can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:54 AM
4

if you find a horny/easy girl in her 20s it's not hard to get it within the "talking phase". She wouldn't had that intention initially but in the way her hormones got the worst from her and sabotaged her AF/BB scheme. I think it's worth saying that most of the girls I have seen like this didn't have a father figure around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:36 AM
1

It can, some do. But it doesn't follow as a strong point. Saying that a woman who likes being "one of the boys" due to bad experiences with fellow women is a my-so-gee-kneesT is like saying the same thing about races.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:27 AM
0

those women are somewhat older than me and I don't date older women. If you showed them in their young versions then I would probably date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:22 AM
2

it shows the point in an american-centered sub
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:21 AM
-1

I'm not black, I put an example to support the idea that "women can hate other women without self hating". Converting the terms: if a woman was bullied by other women while she grew up and prefers to hang around men since they give her a better time, that doesn't mean she hates herself for being female. Same with the black man who has worse experiences with his own group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:33 PM
0

I press X to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:24 PM
3

manosphere narrative and concept adjacent to RP/blackpill are at a all time high, I don't know if that means if RP is mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:08 PM
2

I don't follow any leader and I don't see the RP as a movement or political ideology to begin with, that sounds like your problem. I just had my contact with manosphere people on forums for years and learned concepts that apply to what I see in the world, that's it. hoemath videos are great btw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:04 PM
2

I don't know if most feminists see "pick mes" as people that can change and be "cured", I had the idea that feminists hate them even more as traitors to their sisterhood
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:01 PM
4

if a black person hates his neighbors in a ghetto because he had a lot of bad experiences at being robbed and treated awfully that doesn't he hates himself for being black
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:58 PM
1

that doesn't answer my question on how are men picky. Not being promiscuous like the baseline for a monogamous gf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:55 PM
6

picky how? for not wanting a promiscuous woman as gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:24 PM
24

Women just use gay as an insult despite being supposedly more progressive and empathetic and the nicest people blah blah (we all know that's BS) and they unconsciously see homosexuality as something inferior or disgusting as they are likely to reject bisexual men. Some do have a cope mechanism of thinking a guy must be gay if he doesn't give her attention, but it's unlikely they're unironically telling you to be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:16 PM
0

if she's lucky that's a big if
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:18 PM
-9

College sluts go sucking dozens of dicks and taking birth control, it's weird to relate having a college slut daughter to having an elite man as your son in-law
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:36 AM

It's old fashioned to expect the men to pay up dates and give flowers and even the most feminist girlboss women I know demand it like prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:17 AM

Overall not worth it and maybe a net negative. I wish finding a FWB as a sub8 straight man was more easy or testosterone wasn't that hard on the libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:55 AM
6

based
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:52 AM
1

For the mere sake of speaking i.e. being friendzoned, no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:16 PM
5

Right, by other assholes. female victim blaming much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:23 PM
0

generalizations aren't stupid if they're generally true, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:21 PM
2

I'm saying that "men like OP are ackshually chosen by women" (despite OP literally admitting being single ITT) doesn't hold a lot of weight in order to convince men to be le wholesome cringeddit100 when we can point out that assholes are chosen too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:20 PM
0

More often than before
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:14 PM
2

Drug dealers and thugs have status within their circles and hoods, they display money in their ridiculous outfits and violence to be feared
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:10 PM
0

Sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:03 PM
1

Yet I have had hook ups. Women are sexual too, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:03 PM
16

The BP propaganda gets weirder and weirder
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:02 PM
2

men that beat the shit out of their wives and have a rotation get chosen too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:00 PM
1

I don't need to get along with most women if I have a FWB/girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:56 PM
-3

More like if I got offended at someone saying something like "Boys like dragon ball, girls like Barbie". Yes, we know that some boys like Barbie but if you gather 100 random boys and 100 random girls most girls will like Barbie and will outnumber the boys so it is a valid generalization. Anyone who is too mentally retarded to get this shouldn't have access to discussion spaces on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:53 PM
-2

Are the non toxic women here with us, in this earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:48 PM
1

why, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:17 AM
3

based...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:29 AM
1

Even if it was, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:16 AM
1

that's not anger, just contempt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:15 AM

I don't know, why would women leave men who loved them only to end up with an abusive asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:54 AM
2

this but unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:48 AM
2

the boys give and take favors among us all the time through the years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:26 AM
2

I don't expect my female friends or girlfriend to become passionate about every single interest I have and the things I hold dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:23 AM
0

And yes if I had a fuckbuddy it's likely I wouldn't talk to her outside of next sex when and I don't see what's wrong with that. God won't punish me giving me a miraculous female friend who I find interesting but only sees me as her dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:55 AM
-3

imagine taking a generalization as a personal offense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:43 AM
-1

from time to time: eating together, watching a movie, going together to a family gathering (either mine or hers) and building a plan for a potential marriage, it would help if she's an asset for a potential family business that can be kickstarted from now. But I wouldn't be sooooooooo excited to see her everyday like I would be towards old friends, at least while sex is not on the table. Also why downvote a sincere answer to a question thread you made lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:28 AM
-1

the mere fact that women in Rome were named generically after their family (Julius - Julia) is so funny to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:15 AM
2

tfw a 2017 medium gama phone is considered old crappy tech
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:14 AM
-2

Sex only lasts like 20 minutes 4U (not a bad thing though) what do they imagine a man does with the other 23.5 hours of the day with his partner? I'm not living with a girl if she just became my girlfriend, I expect her to spend her average day studying or working like everyone else and I'm not a fan of texting 24/7 a single person either. inb4 what after you move together Marriage and kids should keep us busy enough by then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:12 AM
9

within their chances
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:41 AM
2

everyone is perfect in reddit dot com
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:05 AM
2

No, you're attempting to attack a literal straw man in your head thinking that doesn't make you an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:14 AM
6

take your pills for schizophrenia, you don't know me bucko
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:09 AM
17

Ah yes, aiming to defend my interests via a group I belong to by birth, social norms and laws, how unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:05 AM
5

Pathetic to attempt to do armchair psychoanalysis for a short reply on fucking reddit dot com lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:03 AM
12

women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:12 AM
4

romance anime
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:59 PM
0

lumpen people reproduce among themselves very often and keep themselves poor, they often abuse the kids in their families or even sell girls too. It's way less probable for a dirt poor family's girl to get a rich guy so they either settle, or fuck up their lives early with teen pregnancy (the single mother route) or aim lower at a medium class man to secure some social mobility for her children
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:35 PM
1

I don't think you can adopt as a single man in most of the West for obvious stigma
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:19 PM
1

adoption, at in my country
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:15 PM
1

there is no my or your truth, there is only objects and reality and you're just scared of people talking freely because you want to appease women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:14 PM
1

child support isn't the only thing family court does, they won't make things more complicated throwing away legal marriage just for your liking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:13 PM
2

Thank you, Obito
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 11:12 PM
1

legal status of marriage has weight in family court rulings
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:35 PM
0

Ever seen someone successful at making friends and unsuccessful at dating? plenty of people dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:37 PM
1

all the plans you form in your mind would get thrown out of the window the moment people have kids because the law will get involved
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:26 PM
0

you're scared of the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:20 PM
1

I'm 90% sure I don't believe in romantic love, I still need to pretend I do if I want to get laid or build a family
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:08 PM

being rejected by the ones you consider high quality kinda sounds like being leftovers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:13 AM

very little is needed to live a comfortable life in an era where a cheap computer and a third hand flat TV can give you access to enough media and books for your lifespan, my not-gf lives in a room for 170 bucks a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:08 AM

I have never seen a single mixer in my life, at least not where I live. It sounds like something too american or from a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:57 AM

Growing up, when loner "nerdy" boys or boys who other boys called gay or ostracized, it was the girls offering them into the fold and being nice to them lolwut?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:49 AM
-1

women are still the ones receiving flowers, dinning out and shit. I don't see how "but we have more romance now!" is something good for men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:05 PM
7

Yes you raised kids together and split the chores Sounds pretty good to me as long as those are my kids and she doesn't cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:58 PM
1

if she's religious, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:57 AM
2

Coming from women, yes, but there is no much option in life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:55 AM
1

As long as she doesn't cheat on me and she bears my child, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:45 AM

You know the kid is yours because you were the one fucking her you believe* you were the only one fucking her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:18 AM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:46 PM
1

yet there are millions of single mothers out there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:40 AM
4

not an attack, don't you know what it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:25 AM
15

Rule 1 and 2
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:21 AM
2

It is a they *can* rise in value as they are less susceptible to the "wall", not that they automatically rise as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:03 PM
5

"Just spent a decade of your best biological years without sex or a gf bro" - Someone who has not spent a decade without sex or a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:52 PM
2

I feel like female friends will invite you out a lot more I don't profit from that there’s no sexual competition when you meet their friends ?? and women are more comfortable making the first move since they see you don’t make other women uncomfortable. More like they see you as the gay friend or "one of the girls" and then get shocked when you express signs of heterosexuality and then feel uncomfortable when they recall that you're a man Also, it’s not like females only talk about boring stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:40 PM
1

So you admit they suck at violence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:52 AM
2

if a minority is only able to do it then as a group they do suck at violence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:52 AM
0

it's still competing to be the most physical fit, confident, and capable to fit in the social body of an era
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:05 PM
1

courting and showing themselves to be a good option for her family. Or by force with marriage by rape/kidnapping
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:22 PM
0

and which model was able to gather more power easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:19 PM
1

Men have always had to compete with their peers, call it more a consequence of modern urbanism and high density population
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:13 PM
1

and hunter gatherer societies were so stable and successful that they won over history and were never replaced and we didn't get to this point where we have computers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:12 PM
4

if you think they don't have a choice then you're proving the argument from nature point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:59 PM
0

I agree with them that sexism is that natural state of reality and egalitarians are blind, just wish that they didn't pretend to be egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:57 PM
3

you asked why X group does more violence than Y group that sucks at violence due to biological reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:43 PM
1

notallwomen but it's always a woman who does paternity fraud to the other spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:58 AM
-2

As women say about fuckboys, "well, there isn't much to choose when they all fucking suck"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:18 AM
2

Women arguing in bad faith and disregarding injustice in a psychopathic manner? Sounds crazy right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:59 AM
2

Victims of paternity fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:54 AM
0

the corporations contribute with their services and products
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:53 AM
1

and the West isn't universal either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:54 PM
2

Sounds as something subjective from someone who is in a good position and ignores that social collapse has already happened dozens of times in history but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:07 AM
1

Why would I give solidarity to a bunch of military age haitians who take welfare lol. And plenty of women fetishize racial/foreign men just as men do to women so why wouldn't I see them as competition
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:33 PM
2

Disregarding systemic phenomena as mere personal failures is basically that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:23 PM
2

individualist people like OP
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:09 PM
2

For gf or sex it had never bore fruit for me. For "friends" it did a bit, even for a female "friend" in the span of a year but on a low level of friendship. I'm about to have a random girl as a girlfriend and ironically I plan to use that to have some status and boost me around people, being seen with a new light and maybe even creat a new hobby group. The "this guy never had a gf and is not having sex" vibe simply kills your performance at meeting people so I find the "you just have to put your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:03 AM
6

I, too, am a solipsist and think there is no world beyond me and what other people do have no effect on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:50 AM
5

I don't think women would have the drive to do that either, they are more indecisive even with small things like asking a person out due to biological reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:16 AM
15

A permasingle guy doesn't need much to live comfortable, cheap modern luxuries like videogames are there. Without a high libido nor family I don't most men would be willing to do the whole rat race thing. Same with politics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:04 AM
5

The wish of prosperity for whom if those men are not making families to provide for?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:33 AM
10

because the average women would have less power over him
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:06 AM
3

destroyed by a single word, "evidence?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:58 AM
2

women getting splits from wealthy men would still be an incentive to divorce, they wouldn't care about the burocratic hassle of a potential next marriage if they're still getting the money and they could just be free love afterwards. Normalizing prenups would discourage the likelihood of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:49 AM
9

I don't know if most women consider attention from men they don't like as harrassment or validating. But there would be a lot of reaction from all those that daydream often about being courted and having a big wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:46 AM
11

Positive for the collective of 80% bottom men, negative for a nation if you're nationalist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:38 AM
24

Flowers industry dies. St. Valentines industry dies. Cinema industry may die. Porn industry dies. Divorce industry dies. Clubs, bars and Tinder die. Lots of women stop receiving free shit and favors and would make a tiktok trend of "why does nobody ask me out?" and shame men about not being real men if they stop pursuing women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:10 AM
1

Is Chinese society your society?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:01 AM
4

rape
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:11 PM
1

I didn't say it about you. I just find the "men shouldn't prepare for a potential divorce because divorce is a sin" logic of catholic communities funny/flawed as if catholic women don't divorce as any other demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:17 AM
4

Most women don't want casual sex. Yet feminists/liberal women fought for the sexual revolution and the normalization of contraceptives
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:14 AM
3

divorce is frowned upon for catholics yet all the time catholic couples divorce in civil law
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:01 AM
5

Lots of men and women are getting casual sex often, why wouldn't they want it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:49 AM
7

Everything in life is based on genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:48 AM
1

proving the point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:32 PM
3

desire men enough to debase themselves to please ugly billy bob
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:38 AM
0

I don't think that many women genuinely want the average man to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:12 AM
4

Believing that a girl is getting along with some guy in order to spite you and the collective of women sounds like pure mental illness. The women I have met who like having more men than female friends (and would be "pickmes") still end up rejecting their advances most of the times because they don't like most men, they just like their attention like any other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:18 AM
1

The solution is to stop simping, living desperately for women and to become an attractive man if possible in order to have leverage to women, things that even women admit ("don't be needy" etc.) Although yeah, being gay/asexual in masse would have a similar result but that's not possible and men would find it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:13 AM
0

Things that only happen inside a woman's head or only 1/100 times
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:10 AM
25

Pick me's mostly don't exist and are a caricature to attack pro-men positions or women who are more aloof
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:31 AM
113

Plus men will be met with the typical "I don't go to bars/clubs/parties to meet men, I go there to have fun with my friends. I want to do hobbies without being seen as a potential partner, don't be gross (ugly)" response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:10 AM
4

rare case of a BP making a valid comparison and her repliers not getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:11 PM
0

"not all men but it's always a man" though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:43 PM
9

lots of men do settle for ugly women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:06 AM
10

because women never lie, backhanded compliments aren't real and people's intentions are never unconscious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:19 AM
9

The thing in common between a LTR and a hookup is that the woman will have sex with both. The practical difference between both is that the woman will demand committment/resources to the LTR. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:23 PM
1

No. but I like to believe that they get a good impression from it at the beginning. If the date I'll have tonight turns into a relationship I'm changing my answer in some months.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:04 AM
1

still be rewarded with a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:30 PM
2

you know this being a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:20 PM
-4

I agree that fictional romance is basically porn
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:34 AM
2

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/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:08 AM
8

A woman gold digging me still feels like some sort of sexual rejection in the end, same with a girl who took my attention for weeks and ghosted me before I could get into the fun part. All dump and no pump.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:04 AM
13

I prefer facing 10 pump and dumps than one rejection, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:36 AM

holy plato's communism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:31 AM
2

I don't think it's very rare for many men to spend one or more years living like that involuntarily
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:10 AM
1

50 years ago it would make you even bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:00 PM
14

I have attended church more often than my agnostic grandparent. The difference is that he wasn't raised in a city with 1 million people, and being a physician in a town of farmers and fishers already made him hot shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:00 AM
39

Comparing results, required effort and generalized patterns. My grandparents were from the same rural town, my parents knew each other since kids as part of the same community, the idea of me or my siblings needing dating apps or going abroad to get a relationship is alien to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:13 PM

that's the thing men with no gf are told all the time so it must be true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:38 PM
0

points 3, 5 and 7 are true, and maybe 6
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:14 AM
3

so? Do the men owe them protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:11 AM

Do you give actual advice besides "just be confident / just be yourself bro / just become hot"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:30 AM
0

just be confident bro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:11 AM
2

The eternal female struggle. Then you approach men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:04 AM
0

dating apps are for sex, try with men irl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:19 AM
1

a black man and a straight woman are a big contrast to a straight man because.....?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:10 PM
0

worrying about the circumstances that pushed those people into mistrust and about the system with odds against men that makes RP appealing ❌❌ worrying about the people that tell those men to look out for themselves ✅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:56 AM
1

because papers aren't pay-walled nor get wrong ever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:23 AM
1

Being aware so you don't keep colaborating in contracts that hurt you is enough gain, instead of taking the BP in the matrix sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:19 AM
4

If there was a better market of women I would be looking at that market instead of the real one I have to deal with, as is the case in practically all the world that isn't Middle East, China, India or a starving shithole
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:59 AM
1

easy access to sex is a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:56 AM

if love was that common there wouldn't be so much infidelity, breakups, promiscuity and divorce. I think 80% of the time people talk about falling in love is just a way to rationalize their lust
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:41 AM

r/ accidentally RP/BP/and maybe right wing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:38 AM
0

You're the one being weird pushing a conversation about rape when I answered a yes/no question if I liked a historical movement which I don't like. Maybe you should do another thread about rape since you're so fascinated with that topic, I simply said I don't care enough about that topic to discuss it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:06 AM
-1

Divorce is way older in many cultures, I doubt that in 8k years of human history there has never been a law about it. But again, I don't care particularly about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:54 AM
3

I didn't say it was related. I do associate it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:53 AM
-4

I don't care particularly about that topic like you, maybe you should do your homework about rape laws history in all the world and share it with us
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:52 AM
-4

America isn't the only country in the world, sweety
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:25 AM
3

because I would still lack the other set of genes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:25 AM
-2

pretty sure the legal concept of marital rape is older than feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:52 AM
1

really when men are less horny and don’t need to tolerate annoying women. you got me I don’t really think the wall is about looks. I think the wall is about personality you lost me there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:40 AM
2

I'm not talking to my mother about anything internet related nor about bad experiences with women lmao. With my sister at most she felt surprised at me and a cousin saying we're not dating a hoe under no circumstances "what if she's loyal" etc. do you hate all of feminism yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:30 AM
3

women don't want manlet sons, so they look for tall men. Same with other traits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:25 AM
2

Not giving birth and suffering a lot of changes is enough reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:24 AM
3

saying that is the muh effort what attracts them is gaslighting. Women will say a million things before admiting that superficial looks is what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:43 PM

crabs in a bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:13 AM

this is missing the point anyways. If a fat girl knew for a fact that a guy who was rich and beautiful when young and only date a certain type of women, and now that he lost his money and looks dates another and more limited date pool and he wants to date her, would you think it's far fetched for her to see a pattern there and be turned off by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:09 AM

meeting some of her exes or checking her social media doesn't sound crazy to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:51 AM

not seeking men like him in her prime years and waiting until her decline starts speaks volumes about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:48 AM

Promiscuous women wouldn't be trying to lie and deceive men who care if they didn't think a relationship with them would be worth something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:21 AM

dancing around the point instead of admitting that in fact, lying to your partner is a bad thing and makes you a bad person. Bravo, BP women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:19 AM

shaming when can't answer a question and then pushing the "well you must be gay" deviation, very typical female answers. Do you believe that lying to your boyfriend is wrong, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:44 AM

You're the one being upset about men having any sort of standards and for saying something a basic as "lying in a relationship to your boyfriend is wrong". But again, when it comes to defending whoredom, any sort of integrity or logic goes out to the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:32 AM

So Captain Whores unironically defend lying in relationships, got it lmao. Fits the blue pill being all about living inside a fake world
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:11 AM

guys find them appealing enough for giving them commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:08 AM

why does basing a relationship on a lie matter? anything to defend whores
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:02 AM

I would rather die young than spending decades of my life committed to a high n count woman, even if she lies about it. Saying "we can just lie tee hee" makes you look horrible and only reinforces the negative stereotype men have about women in general as not trusty people who you need to use before they use you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:56 AM

guys marry the women they see in porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:52 AM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:50 AM

if that was the case, then women wouldn't get offended about public discourse about body count
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:48 AM
7

bp women correcting other bp women about how they're supposed to feel, love to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:38 AM
8

it doesn't take a underdog plot of muh effort muh improvement zero to hero, "we ackshually like handsome men for their effort (even the ones that were born like that)" is gaslighting. Women like good looks for the good looks per se and for unconscious eugenics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:37 AM
1

Yes, vanity is useless otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:24 AM
27

it takes a lot of effort being tall and having a superb facial structure that naturally attracts a ton of women, yeah lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:21 AM
4

not a perk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:33 PM
4

?have you tried to swallow up censorship?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:45 AM
5

what benefits come from a mixed-gender group?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:44 AM
3

yep, and women wonder "why don't men seek out female friendships? We bring much to the table, we can introduce you to other girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:37 AM
2

maybe you're ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:50 AM
3

women telling us what we like without proof
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:43 AM
3

women will never be happy if they see men they deem inferior (sub8s) being somewhat happy, I swear
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:24 AM
4

Cyber bullying isn't real. The power button of your computer is there, you can turn it off any time. However, she then proceeds to be constantly bitter and angry and sling mud towards these western men despite the fact she now has a submissive provider husband. I wouldn't give a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:09 AM
3

Sooooo you are indeed angry/jealous at men of your country having submissive housewives from other cultures and would prefer if these men were single? Yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:55 AM
3

Women's sexuality is more rigid and they kinda look for the same traits on men (tall, rich, hot face), it's very unlikely a man deemed as a loser for 5 women will be seen as hot for other 5 women. If anything "please date this 30 y.o. / poor / single mother / other unattractive trait woman bro believe me she's not like Debra bro belive me bro women are angels and she would have liked you back then" is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:47 AM
3

Even if they are not the same literal woman they likely belong to the same demographics (age, geographic location, economics) and it's very likely Clara would have rejected the guy before his glow up. If he did have a glow up and he's able to pull women he deems more atractive like younger women then he will, Clara isn't entitled to a quality relationship just for being a "nice girl" ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:21 AM

that doesn't change her past of sucking an entire soccer team's dicks before finding Mr. Right who has to settle down for her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:55 AM

didn't answer the question: you see watching porn as equivalent to having sex with several people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:31 AM

because masturbating is the same that sucking a guy's dick
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:21 AM
1

Are you part of the top 10% economically? Are most women part of the top 10% economically?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:28 AM
0

Elite people marry other elite people for sharing wealth, playing politics, gathering power and eugenics since Ancient Egypt because marriage has always been about social order and not about love. This has nothing to do with the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:21 AM
0

Wow you're telling me very rich people marry other rich people??? RP disproved! That must mean that those 35 y.o. fat single mothers in section 8 are of high value and the wall doesn't exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:09 AM
1

Most part of human history didn't have a free sexual market
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:21 AM
1

between being a porn "artist" and a pimp
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:00 AM
52

If he profits out of it he's her pimp, otherwise he's the cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:24 AM

A bunch of people with no status nor power on a shitty website like reddit dot com seethe about people with status and power, yeah I'm sure that makes them cry in their sleep lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:04 PM

They are top percentile men. I would find it insane and seething to call them losers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:52 PM

I don't see how being a rapist disqualifies a guy from being an alpha if he is wealthy and powerful. Do you think all alphas from the past were good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:03 PM
1

It depends on the type of woman and how much do I like her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:50 PM
1

You're assuming she had a fuck buddy. I have been the fuck buddy of a (former) virgin girl. Believe it or not, virgin women exist out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:43 PM
1

"Ackshually, sluts who suck off a guy on the first 3 hours of meeting him in the parking zone of a Little Caesars ARE the true LTR material!" Bluepill/women propaganda is weird man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:20 PM
1

Do you date women as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:15 PM
1

Lil bro wants to go full China with a social credit system. This is the natural state of "anarchy" or a free sexual market. You either have that or a conservative society which had sexual rules to avoid all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:14 PM
1

It's unlikely that a girl I fell for would have sex on the first date if I was a good judge of character. And yes it is a turn off, if she has sex with a practical stranger, how many times would she have done that before? Protip: love at first time isn't real she should make you wait for sex to make sure you take her seriously ? yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:53 PM
-2

Cannot really see them as "isolated incidents" when by definition the top % of men must be relatively few men in the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:57 AM
2

I think a girl has to be stupid or willfully delusional to expect a husband from a guy she fucked on first date, in the same way I would think a dude is stupid for throwing gifts and jewels to a girl she just met and expecting a wife out of it. Women can't brag about being the "emotionally inteligent" or socially skilled sex if they don't understand that doing that before bonding is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:25 AM
1

if she is agreeing it under conditions then it is transactional and she would be using him as well for her goals
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:26 AM
2

Either she does want to have sex per se or she does it transactionally for having my favor in the future. If the former, then I don't see it wrong to pump and dump as she did want sex. If the latter, she should know better and do it transactionally for money or a more realistic favor like helping her to move out, not for a relationship. Men are not vending machines where you put a sex token and get a boyfriend plushie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:37 AM
4

Get laid and after that slow the communication gradually. Wait no, last time I gave pity dates to someone it didn't end well. I don't see Tinder as an app for serious dating. If you meet a guy from tinder and suck him off the first night you meet him and he leaves I think it's pretty much on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:26 AM
11

Then the men that openly embrace that (MGTWO, incels, blackpill etc.) are mocked or resented for not wanting to participate in a society that hates them under the fear of society dying if most men taking this path and checking out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:28 AM
1

Now narrow it down to certain ethnicities to make the correlation even tighter :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:23 PM
1

Do you think MOST fathers are cheaters or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:07 PM
0

that is not the focus of RP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:34 PM
3

Oh, she birthed his kid, so now he'll be loyal and cherish her forever and definitely not have a wandering eye or consider dumping her for someone prettier and less stressed out from childcare. Yes? Do you think most fathers are cheaters?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:45 PM
2

a guy with no options, or with 2 o 3 other options is less likely to dump you than a guy with 10 options. I think it's common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:43 PM

Maybe in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:06 AM
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Women choose douchebags all the time, it has nothing to do with being good. The morale is to do what works for you to get women and to not do vain efforts simping after someone who has not shown to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:04 AM

Most prostitutes aren't exactly medium or high class economically and live day by day. Government-aproved prostitution exists as an outcome of poverty (which causes point 3.) I think those questions would need prostitution to be more normalized, as they would have to publicly admit to be sex workers and many women aren't comfortable doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:58 AM
4

Just do it in secret and ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:03 AM
28

"You can become a man of status and high income if you want it hard enough" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:01 AM

Prostitution isn't criminalized in Mexico and most prostitution profit goes to traffic rings anyways, to give an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:36 AM

This is not the topic of the discussion, I'm just saying that the notion of prostitution being illegal is why those people died is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:33 AM

First off, common sense. A person who has the chance to earn more money working in private sector than their public counterpart will do it, it's not like hookers are doctors or public teachers who work out of vocation. Have you worked in prostitution or have interacted with many prostitutes? I know a girl who has sold herself since she was kicked out of her home at 16 and I know how she prefers working. Her quality of life is already somewhat low and if she had worked in a public brothel it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:06 AM

Now you're talking out of your ass. Elliot Rodgers had a lot of money and could have seen a hooker any day he wanted. He did what he did out of romantic rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:54 PM

Prostitutes will prefer to work solo ilegally and take 100% of their income, or at least rent out an office-apartment with a couple of hookers, than work in a filthy brothel in downtown with a Madame who distributes the collective income and after that she has to give another share to the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:52 PM

Then how do you explain the customers who are married but still pay for a prostitute? Dead bedrooms. Fear of being find out if they had a proper affair. Specific fetishes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:34 PM

not in antiquity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:27 PM

Prostitutes don't like paying taxes (can you blame them?) Criminal rings don't stop just because of that. Backing point 2, where human traffic is present you won't find the hottest ones in a legal brothel, nor the legal brothels will be the cleanest places. Johns will prefer the illegal brothels Yes, many go to prostitutes to have vanilla experiences and to touch gently the prostitutes. But prostitutes don't solve loneliness. Chads won't stop playing women just because billy bob can fuck an out …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:20 PM
1

femcels aren't really real
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:39 AM

yet it is our fault, as always
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:55 AM

does "hoe" harm your feefees? 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:44 AM

I'm establishing a trait I find undesirable in my quest for a girlfriend and potential wife
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:32 AM

why should I?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:21 AM

It's my choice if ask out a woman for sex and she says no? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:52 PM

Your thread is the third one of my list. I feel like as men, we need to be a bit more forgiving of what women did when they were between the ages of 16 and 25. is just other words for saying "men should be captain save a hoe"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:17 PM

I'm not a virgin, I don't care about not being a virgin because I realized women don't care about men not being virgin and even despise virgin men to some degree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:15 PM

why would I care about how many hoes my dude friend went through if I have no sexual interest in him, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:11 PM

if women judged you for how many women you slept with They are free to do that, you should convince women for going for virgin men if you care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:09 PM

Do you not realize that women who sleep around often aren’t the “chads” of women? I didn't imply that, I implied that fucking them would turn me into a chad and give me even more women because that is what they like, as you explained in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:07 PM

In the last 3 weeks I have seen blue pill propaganda in PPD for: Making men "step up" and marry single moms as some sort of civic duty -Shaming men into being cucks raising bastard children -men becoming captains save a hoe because trump or something (this thread) Wild
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:06 PM

and women would have loved me after having sex with a group of women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:00 PM

not opening your legs to a dozen different men and not being a drug addict are not high standards nor unrealistic unlike being a wealthy with a godly body, they are literally the default mode for a woman. For fucking up you have to be active in that path
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:54 PM

because being rejected and a virgin is the same than actively fucking up your body with drugs and sucking the dicks of an entire soccer team
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:48 PM

and so on but you don’t feel similarly about men doing those things Have you thought that we don't care much about it because... most of us don't date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:37 PM

can do drugs, go to jail, no one cares I don't know in which world you live, but in this one drugs can easily destroy your life with addiction and having a criminal record can keep you from getting a job. Society in general don't see that with good eyes. George Bush, Trump Literal top 1% of men in money, networking and status. Women don't care about that? So? They forgive them because they love money and status so much, make exceptions for Chads or are even hybristophilic, not because they are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:30 PM

Ummm, based department?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:15 PM
2

Theodore Kaczynski agrees, the tecno industrial system needs more potential workers to serve it so it embraces feminism and bringing more people from other nations and races into the force work
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:05 AM
0

Yeah, I can't blame guys reaching their peak choosing to not go BB instead of sacrificing themselves for the sake of monogamy in a society which already was hypersexual when they were young and undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:24 AM
2

"I don't believe in redpill" proceeds to describe RP improvement "hypergamy isn't real" proceeds to describe hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:59 AM
1

to vary a little
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:03 AM
1

Lying for being polite is still lying lol, you can be honest and not an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:37 AM
5

It's not about valuing friendship. It is easy to minimize the lack of sex and being unattractive when you have pretty privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:34 AM
1

Many men don't accept to be BBs (using all their money to settle with leftovers) so as they get older it's harder to get one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:33 AM
1

They're worried about not being able to secure a BB before their golden time is up, or about losing access to top men even for casual sex or even worse seeing a top guy they used to fuck marrying to a young girl. Anti age gap speeches are a reaction to the notion of being replaced by the new hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:58 PM
2

around 30-35
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:22 PM
2

therapy doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:18 PM
6

"Reddit censors this, therefore it is false" - Galaxy brain Lilith take
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:13 PM
0

some will (BB), some will pretend to commit in order to get sex, some will get the sex without commitment (AF)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:07 PM
2

It was 4 am I don't give a fuck about italian words
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:04 PM

There are married women who seemed to be perfect but have affairs and get pregnant of other men. I agree that having a discussion with you is not worth having, as usual in your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:24 AM
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I value them. I also value sex. "You should just be a castrati and replace your sex drive with having 4058045840 friends" rethoric comes from pretty privilege. "You may not have food so just keep drinking water"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:20 AM

So, most single moms are even MORE stupid by not thinking that their deadbeats baby daddies are bad? Cool, Lilith!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:12 AM

By that reasoning, I guess single mothers look really stupid and irresponsible to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:55 AM

It's funny how women always turn this topic about human value, sounds like a freudian slip from their pretty privilege. "You don't wanna date whores? You must want to see them dead. You don't want my sexless friendship? You must be gay and want women dead." No, I just find most women boring, or with lifestyles I don't get along with, or lacking interests in common with mine, or annoying, or pulling often male attention / orbiters, or simply not offering a friendship in any way better than the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:23 AM
3

it's not hard to get a betabux at your position
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:18 AM
3

lots of men are into that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:07 AM
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Women care a lot less about appearance then men and men don’t lose value with age so they have more time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:57 AM
0

People age differently. There are women who crash against the wall at 30 (specially if they do dugs) and there are women who age gracefully to theirs 40s. When I was a teen, the mom of a rich classmate was considered beautiful by everyone and was very fit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:44 AM
7

This is about commitment, not sex. The full idea is women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:38 AM
1

It is not out of your control to look directly for a LTR/marriage in your youth, have a healthy lifestyle in order to make your body age slower and not indulge yourself in alcohol and drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:36 AM
3

Probably even higher (excluding children and women 50+)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:06 AM
1

You cannot prove him wrong though, protip: pulling out the word misogyny doesn't prove him wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:02 AM
3

Feminists think we have a hivemind like women and all men know each other and are responsible for each other
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:01 AM
4

Therapists are worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:56 AM

"Me not hanging around men because I didn't want to fuck them is the same as you not wasting your time with platonic women because you do want fo fuck them" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:42 PM

When those men did that in recent years they were called incels and were banned in reddit among other sites
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:46 AM

Give me bitches or give me death, not much else around it. Having friends don't avoid being seen as a loser and they're bound to stop seeing you often as you grow apart and become busy in life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:11 AM
3

Based. I dislike self improvement gospel, gynocentric and an ad for the rat race
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:31 AM
4

Seething at western women Anger at Chad and Chad like people Resentment towards paying for dates Saying things like “women are like cats: selfish and spoiled” Passport bro mindsets with the desire to be a Chad in a foreign nation Are any of those things wrong and untrue, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:13 AM
1

if a man who is a murderer gives the tingles to a woman, is he good?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:10 AM
3

Who has the most success in dating? Chad, who may be red or blue pilled, but his success is not due to his pill but for having Chad genetics (which only reinforces black and red pill beliefs)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:54 PM
1

I'm not her gay friend, I'm not her female besties who talk about synchronizing periods and shit like that. So much talk about wanting male friends, then treat them normally and talk about other stuff like movies or music.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:21 PM
1

I might, I can actually relate to their male experiences, desires and struggles unlike female chitchat about being penetrated or begging womanizer bad boy to make their situationship into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:13 PM
1

I don't want to hear details of how my female friend was fucked last weekend even if I'm not orbiting around her, I'm not her gay friend either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:59 PM
1

she no longer feels comfortable talking to you, her friend, about the men she is dating and the men she actually likes. why would any men want to hear about that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:45 PM
2

In most cases thos contributions amount to zero
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:53 PM
2

love the instant switch you make on the guy from "he should be happy he gets a friend :)" to "yeah he deserves to suffer" lol. Mask off
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:52 PM

It certainly is showing me how many women see a guy being average or an introvert on pair with being a dick and having bastard kids
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:02 AM

It is tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:20 AM
11

softcore is just IG and OF nowdays
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:43 AM
2

which contributions?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:39 AM
2

Men don't want to be cucked in any of both ways, it's not hard to get they don't owe you being your orbiter
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:34 AM
3

the friendzoned guy gets a hoe who will exploit his desire for favors*
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:29 AM
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I’m confused as to why men would be upset at being friend zoned in the first place. Women are allowed to not like you guys romantically And men are allowed to not like you as mere friends and fuck off when being rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:12 AM
0

You're using your money on dating them and even tell them upfront your boundaries, why sweat about it? It's on them if they stay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:40 PM
0

It's not a matter of worse and better, but of active and passive principle. Women, seen as the receptive side get more attached to the sexual partner and are more changed by the sex. Men would just fulfill their potential as the active side and thus being seen as alfa
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:27 PM
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No. Women have high standards due to their hypergamic nature, social media, movies and dating apps. Men get off to almost anything (this IS enhanced due to porn) and don't have the leverage to look for a model gf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:44 AM

Do women oppress ugly men by having a preference for attractive men? Do women oppress short men by having a preference for tall men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:57 AM

The answer is in the exercise I'm proposing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:47 AM

I'm making a comparison in what I think would provoke you similar emotions to ours in the topic so you can see our side: Would you find it weird and accusatory if it was mandatory to make girls go through "Do not commit paternity fraud" courses? Answer yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:40 AM

You didn't address the paternity fraud part
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:33 AM

a dude telling you "go back to the kitchen!" doesn't take any right from you. Rights aren't about feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:31 AM

"liking young women is oppression" LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:29 AM

As opposed to nothing. Wouldn't you find it weird if we went to a middle school all girls classroom to teach them "Hey girls, don't you ever commit paternity fraud to men! Don't be whores"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:12 AM

Do you consider it a red flag when a woman is a feminist? Yes Would you be okay dating a woman who is a self-identified feminist? No One who is vocal about it? No One who says things that are hostile to the male sex like "I'd pick the bear", or "teach boys not to rape", or something like that? No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:05 AM

I don't think a man needs to be a chubby chaser in order to have one as a gf, men are more likely to settle and don't have the SM at their favor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:05 AM

I doubt on being tons of men who could get a gf but reject them for being fat in places like america
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:57 AM

Promiscuity is the negative trait that most men prioritize. Anyways, from worst to best: 3, 5, 4, 1, 2
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:52 PM
2

crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:21 PM
1

women could be honest at least
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:02 PM

Women are shallow and care about looks more than anything. That is the base fact that produces the rejection, so why not be at least honest about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:53 PM
1

Bluepill men think that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:45 PM
3

Get sad but at least won't be leaded by an excuse that will make him try again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:50 PM
1

women don't need one either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:44 PM
2

women should be more honest about not caring about personality and caring about the body
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:20 PM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:11 AM

for Lilith's schizo rants, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:05 AM

It is not my responsability to personally go and berate the deadbeat you let to cum inside you and get you pregnant. Go ask your dad or something
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:05 AM

expecting men to freely defend women's interests and taking care of single moms is expecting special treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:57 AM
2

you're the one making it about political oppression though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:50 AM
2

I'm more of a list guy than a count guy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:30 AM
8

yeah a high n count whore must have felt very uncomfortable having sex within the first week with a dozen different men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:25 AM
2

I can save Amelie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:07 AM
2

What does democracy have to do with this? Many countries passport guys go to are democracies. White/anglo/western women see this topic through white savior lens
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:52 AM
2

So you see foreign women as inferior and dumb since, according to you, they inherently ignore having rights even if the laws of their countries say so. Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:05 AM
1

You consider foreign or young women as inferior and thus any relationship with them being exploitative?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:02 AM
1

Friends first approach presupposes rule 1 and 2 (alternatively the girl being promiscuous enough)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:06 AM
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All that is the natural consequence of sexual revolution directly caused by feminism and liberalism in general. All the "we should help both genders" speech is useless, this is what you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:00 AM

What high standards you think we have, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:34 AM

Deadbeats aren't wonderful, I just don't give a shit about them and culture doesn't push me to make excuses for them as for women. You're just mad at people not giving you special treatment for having a female body.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:27 AM
2

pleasure will always be a bigger force than fear BNW > 1984
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:22 AM
1

the discussion you started was about building and maintaining civilization, not about gathering fruit or caring for old people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:55 AM
6

Women hate ugly men's existence unless it is an eunuch at their service (orbiter, simp etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:16 AM
1

did they build Rome, imperial China etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:06 AM
-1

My point is that you can only bring the "yeah guys are pretty sex crazed not like me, I work for my hobbies" point from a comfortable position with an office AC room job which only exists due to literal millenia of men creating and sustaining civilization. It sounds entitled to such civilization when most women even nowdays avoid such infrastructure related jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:17 AM
0

does that make it less true?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:38 PM
-1

Do you work actively in hard jobs like masonry that build and sustain society 24/7? It's not pleasurable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:26 PM
1

monastic life requires an active contempt for life and the world, and a doctrine that sustains such decision. The development of civilizations is contrary to it and requires wealth and often sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:24 PM
0

describing reality doesn't imply hate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:12 PM

Why would you care about mid dudes thirsting after girls, if you don't like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:03 PM
1

how would you feel if a woman tells you she finds you attractive for a fling, but not HV enough for a relationship/marriage?how would you feel if a woman tells you she finds you attractive for a fling, but not HV enough for a relationship/marriage? I would feel pretty cool if I don't want her as a gf either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:58 PM
2

I don't think it affected it much beyond women complaining about the guys they want following dozens of sexy photo women on IG, but that's just an extension of "woman drools over attractive fuckboy and expects him to choose her over all his other girls for no reason"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:41 PM
3

I don't think ever seeing RP talking about mothers advice to be good
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:56 PM
1

Single moms make their bed by making stupid choices and then have to sleep on it. You see jealousy where we simply laugh at stupid people making stupid choices
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:18 PM
1

if you hate deadbeats, then why reward them with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:20 AM
7

"Bad" case scenario: your desire to have kids does not align with the guy, he "gets intimidated" (lol) and stops seeing you after a couple of dates. You remain single and keep looking. "Good" case scenario: you omit talking about that, weeks pass by, you become his gf. Months pass by, years pass by... you remain his gf and when you ask about that you just find out that he does not like marriage nor kids. You waste years of your fertile youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:03 AM
1

Because you could actively avoid those cases for yourself by choosing better? Oh wait, women don't like being treated as adults with agency when is accountability time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:13 AM
1

Feminists think that all men in an area hold a weekly male grill party, that we are acquainted with our local rapists and killers who talk openly about their deeds and thus it is up to us to tell them "hey dude, that's not cool could you stop?" solving it easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:22 AM
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For thinking that men being attractive implies thay they have the same desire as them to marry, instead of double and triple checking and making choices in function of their desire to marry
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:12 AM
1

all cultures for millennia forbade premartial sex for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:09 AM
15

It takes $0 to talk about family and future expectations on the first few dates. Women are betrayed by their own passiveness and their wish to have a Dad-boyfriend who always reads their minds and give them what they want when they need it. At least the childfree and feminist women I know are pretty open about not wanting kids ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:05 AM
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