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Trust fund billionaire vs formerly homeless self made The facts don’t lie
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:40 PM
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Nah men who can sleep around don’t exclusively just sleep w the hottest women. Male sexuality is not hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:25 PM
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Zero self awareness, just vibes 💫
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 09:46 PM
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This is ironic because most of the women on here refuse to notice patterns in behavior but somehow specifically here you did lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:34 PM
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Basically this and the fact that the slut population has become far too large. If 10% of women in society were sluts that’s one thing but 25%? Completely destroys the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:38 AM
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What she means is he’s tall but later finds out he’s dumb af so she takes that as her hypergamy radar is broken lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:16 AM
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Now you have come to the conclusion that many others have. Women find a small population of men attractive while men find a broader scope of women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:09 AM
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Takes no skill to pull w money. Same reason why women who have casual sex isn’t congratulated but when men do it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:26 PM
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Comments just show they want to be ho’s so bad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:27 AM
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Or just have sex in the context of a committed relationship like with boyfriends? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:25 AM
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The attractive ones lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:17 AM
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This would have such a drastic impact on society
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:21 PM
3

Same logic as telling women to marry the loser they’re not into but would want to marry her
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:53 PM
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Chad is relative. Obvi a fatty can’t get a 10/10 but it’s 2am and bars are closing so an 8/10 will hit her up for some top lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:37 PM
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This is the case for like 99% of men but the hivemind thinks it’s the other way around to fit their narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:59 PM
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Reading comprehension. See my comment above and try it slowly this time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:40 AM
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The increasing trend of sexual abuse among teachers who are women. Comparing women from x time to y
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:03 AM
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There’s multiple studies, just google it. Australia has like a 200% increase and US was less. I think one was from USC and another from some federal study
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:13 AM
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It’s on the rise both globally and in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:42 PM
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Women feel more for tall, handsome and successful men. Don’t try to quantify or you’ll piss them off, they just go off vibes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:29 PM
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A lot of beliefs can be boiled down to men bad women good and the just world fallacy. With the smut stuff and the teachers being exposed lately, it’s trending to a society where the belief is ppl can be bad regardless of gender. Not to say smut is super bad but it’s similar to porn which is universally viewed negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:12 PM
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Elite levels of delusions to blame men for women’s hypergamy. The estrogen is high with this one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:37 PM
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The women who don’t want men at all are the equivalent of incels. They aren’t happy w the quality they can get so they would rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:06 PM
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The fact that so many women on here dispute that tells you that we’re dealing w either complete delusion or a niche population of strange women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:19 PM
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Ime Scandinavians with body counts under 10 are a rare species. Literally some of the most sexually progressive Europeans
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:51 PM
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It can definitely help w casual Many times women want to experience it just for the novelty factor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:05 PM
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Well yeah they need to get it up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:22 PM
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Why even go if you can just get someone attractive when you want? Europe is very different than America so you can’t really compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:21 PM
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If the guy is a 6 he needs to go down and get a 4 which is basically a fat chick. That’s a nonstarter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:15 PM
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Men don’t want sluts. Non slutty hot women are higher value than those that give it up easy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:08 PM
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He’s saying it’s inflated their market value the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:06 PM
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You can’t fuck slightly below your league lol you got to go at least two points down. Relationships you can get a bit above your league as a guy but typically nothing crazy unless you’re breaded
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:03 PM
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The percentage of men you are talking about is super low. Men who women are ok being in their harems are the very top percent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:59 PM
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I know some poor dude went down on that after some Chad hit and quit 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:48 PM
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That’s 1st step of alpha widowed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:39 PM
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Not exceptional? Dance monkey, dance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:40 PM
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Nah women are just as horny, it’s just for a significantly smaller set of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:35 PM
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Women don’t understand just how abysmal the average guys smv is in the United States. In the 80’s the same type of dude would pull occasionally. For a lot of men their prime can be middle age just because they were invisible to women in their youth and now have more resources. Going from 0% chance to 10% is life changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 01:17 PM
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A person behind a dildo, not the other way around lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:53 AM
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If she had an illustrious ho phase, the probability is very high. It’s simple math more than anything If she had a few hookups it’s not necessarily true because there’s a reasonable probability that they were bad. At some point the numbers are not in your favor though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:52 PM
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During the 2014-2016 era in college mid women were just getting railed by chads in tinder. Hypergamy is innate it’s just that the cats out of the bag so new young women feel exposed w that behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:32 PM
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Simple deduction. Majority of good attractive dudes are in monogamous relationships so the single ones are less likely to be the “good” kind. Sometimes Venn diagrams help lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:25 PM
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Somehow many women don’t find anything wrong with this and think it’s shocking that men take it as an insult lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:21 PM
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It’s a modern thing because alpha fucks beta bucks is modern. For a lot of human history women’s sexual nature was suppressed by society. Being a simp was normal method to get a wife for a long time before casual sex took off. No guy wants to invest in a whore for chads
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:19 PM
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I don’t think enough people realize that there is a notable population of young women attracted to traits older men have. It was honestly surprising to me as well. As a dude in his mid 30s, I can attract way hotter women that are in their early to mid 20’s now than 10 years ago. Sure, it’s the minority of them that are open to older guys but that minority is still 10x what was available to me at 25. The average dude in his early to mid 20s is effectively below average because he’s competing w ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:15 AM
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Height, resources and confidence as said above
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:59 AM
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The premise is that women’s biological drivers are immoral by nature. You could argue the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:01 AM
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Guys with his attitude are typically 9/10 chads or 2/10 incels lol Hardly the typical male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:24 PM
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If you read between the lines, women are saying they need to be ho’s before they appreciate a good guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:43 PM
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This is only true if he wifed someone with a ho past
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:30 PM
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Hypergamy is a well established fact. Arguing anything else is akin to flat-earther
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:25 PM
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Nah men find most women attractive so it’s baked into wife material. Women find only a small percent of men sexually attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:13 PM
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Mid women still have natural abundance. You’re right that it’s inaccurate for below avg women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:08 PM
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It definitely doesn’t define below average women but for even mid women it’s pretty accurate. It’s all relative though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:01 PM
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This is the logical consequences of the current dating dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:29 AM
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Their intention was to use your body for sex, not a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:01 AM
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Most of the women on here fail to understand the distinction between relationship sex and casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:58 PM
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Everyone has a potential but there’s a cap. There’s a reason you don’t see 5’9 guys in the nba despite being average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:24 AM
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Completely unrealistic. Most ppl are average
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:22 AM
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Relationship economics isn’t the same as sexual relationship economics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:19 AM
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It’s not just a sore subject, it’s delusion. The frame their past differently so it’s not as bad in their eyes. I have seen this with many friends, they talk about it like a victim or just young experiences but I was literally there for some those…she was just being a hypergamous ho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:59 PM
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This is absolutely true. Some women get burned bad by their hypergamous ways and quickly find a suitable beta provider for the comfortable lifestyle they crave
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:11 PM
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Women fuck up so relatively they are high value
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:04 PM
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One person, no. Many women? Biologically a failure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:01 PM
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Small network
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:57 PM
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Women who don’t put out are cherished it’s just that often they will bang some dudes early and make others wait
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:00 AM
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Cart before horse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:28 AM
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This is because even the average woman is attractive to many men. Women take it for granted because it’s par for the course
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:01 AM
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This is the mistake most women on here make. They talk as if men have the same experience as women in the dating market, it’s completely different problems
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:24 PM
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More women than ever in history behave like this, it’s their biological nature. They are only expressing freely now that the societal constraints are lifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:13 PM
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Imagine living in America and waiting for a woman to initiate sex 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:18 AM
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Top comments are talking about emotional stability and being kind lol unfortunately those traits are often inversely correlated with how hot she is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:53 AM
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Yeah almost every guy can improve their situation. If the argument is that he can’t/doesn’t have the potential to be in the top 20%, that maybe true in some ways. A guy can rich max and at least get something though, it just will come at a significant cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:40 PM
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That’s why casual sex for men and women is different and judged differently
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:00 PM
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You can talk to women or you can talk to Chad. Both will know everything there is to know about women’s sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:59 PM
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The latter is not easy to find if he is attractive. The former is not easy to find if he’s genuinely interested in you. Anyone who socializes enough can tell you which type of a guy is rarer and more coveted, it’s definitely not the 2nd one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:54 PM
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A lot of women are too entitled to think they aren’t that girl so it never crosses their mind. All they’re thinking of is the validation of how great they’re are and how hot he is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:49 PM
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Obviously he is not considering ugly ones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:37 PM
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You right on everything OP but the lvl of “cute” those chicks are. I know men who do the above and while they can all get laid, they do complain of the quality of the chicks. What you’re missing is that once you work on yourself enough, your standards for a partner also increase. Men fuck down women fuck up. Hence why the chicks are always sub standard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:05 PM
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They’re busy trying to turn them gay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:27 PM
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The men who don’t care aren’t thinking about cuffing her so none of it matters lol If a guy is relationship oriented, he’s going to tend to care more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:48 PM
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Nah the second group of men are like 50/50. Some are super chill and others act that way among women but actually care for someone serious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:47 PM
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Most relationships are transactional in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:22 PM
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This is also why it’s more impressive when guys can bag. The wokies want to believe men and women are the same but it’s just not true. A dude bagging a hottie and a lesbian bagging a hottie equally garner respect. A mid bagging a chad does not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:20 PM
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They’re open to it if he’s high value enough Otherwise he’s in the maybe/relationship box
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:52 AM
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The obvious answer is to date down. Physically and socially economically below average women Funny that none of them said that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:37 PM
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Why don’t a small set of men want LTRs vs why don’t men want a LTR. Important distinction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:02 AM
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Women will give it up faster and with less hassle if it’s Chad. Competition for chads is fierce so no sex would make them uncompetitive Anybody who has Chad friends knows how easy it is for them, it’s a zero sum game for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:00 AM
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They’re normalizing low quality behavior to feel better about themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:35 AM
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Seems like the women think breaking down “attractive” is overly complicating their intentions. The real issue is that they don’t like the conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:03 PM
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Just wait until a guy with high enough value comes along, all their rules out the window. Tale as old as time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:01 PM
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OP is just breaking down “attractive” so it encompasses other traits besides looks. RMV vs SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:52 PM
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Highly correlated but, yes, feminist non liberal women are less likely. They also occur at 1:100 compared to feminist liberal types so way less common
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:16 PM
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That type is super rare. The liberal promiscuous woman type occurs 10:1
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:12 PM
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Most women do. Chads are exceptional for a reason and they will continue to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:21 AM
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The average man isn’t getting laid so how would it change things? If anything it will provide more women with low body counts lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:19 AM
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A lot of the takes on ppd are far from reality and the presidential election kinda drives that whole point. Completely delusional, reddit is bubble while trp tells the objective realities
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:44 AM
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You might not know enough women or at least know them well enough to be honest with you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:12 PM
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She clearly has a different type. Unless the dude is completely different than how you portrayed him in the photos, it’s not working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:22 PM
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How romantic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:19 PM
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You met any women? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:18 PM
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Disappointed but would still smash. Unlikely to work out long term
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:57 PM
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Anyone who’s been to an American university knows this to be true. The same few guys are also having way more sex then the sluttiest chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:34 PM
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Almost like men want to spread their seed to multiple partners… nah that can’t be it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:39 PM
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A lot of rp dudes learn from real life observations but that’s often glossed over
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:05 PM
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OP spitting facts. Just saying the difference between black and red
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:04 PM
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If she’s also below mid it’s just her fornicating w her level. What doesn’t happen is hot women fucking down w mid men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:54 PM
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Top guys are horny and will find the path of least resistance but they aren’t cuffing those women unless they’re hot as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:52 PM
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Attention is the highest commodity for insecure women (most women are)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:50 PM
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What fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:41 PM
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No dudes are watching that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:40 PM
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They show how improbable a lot of things are and how over inflated others are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:40 PM
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They watch too many crazy chick flicks like the handmaid tales and serial killer docs so they think men have sinister plans for them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:25 PM
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My standards are just very high. It has gotten me laid obviously but if you’re only interested in dimes it will only get you so far lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:26 AM
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So chads just have impeccable timing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:17 AM
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lol they thought they did something. Moral pats on the back
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:15 AM
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As someone who is top 5% maybe 1% in those skills, it helps but doesn’t get you laid as easy as physical attributes. Tbh it’s the ideal wing man, I get a lot of men and women partnered. You need to meet the physical threshold or it’s mute
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:13 AM
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Nah men and women rate completely differently. A good example is zendaya, women think very highly of her but men are whatevs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:09 AM
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Stop the cap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:53 PM
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Usually she deludes herself because he’s high value. If all her friends are warning her but she refuses to listen, that’s not manipulation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:00 PM
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Observing the same situation many times with different women. You can’t make conclusions from one interaction but you can observe trends
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:58 PM
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Below mid for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:56 PM
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Your crowd is definitely older which is irrelevant for many men on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:54 PM
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Only because they’re too mid to have higher standards. There are effectively zero women who are promiscuous and bang below their league. There are many that are promiscuous and bang above their level
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:53 PM
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Probably. Women don’t care though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:51 PM
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Talking about something that doesn’t happen lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:49 PM
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Regularly sleeping with the top 20% of men is slutty behavior. Anymore questions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:59 AM
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Yes. I’m very extroverted and make friends easily with both men and women. My successful fboy friends all have high value traits that women desire. The girls casually see these see type of men but can’t bag that for committed relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:57 AM
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That’s not what’s observed many of us. Casual guys are rarer than long term guys simply due to the qualifiers needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:07 AM
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Get off on being the object of desire? Yes, most women do. Actually following through with sex…only if he’s Chad and the circumstances are right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:04 AM
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Almost every chad I’ve known has had mid fwb 2am hookup girls who they get with when the hot women they are dating flake The same thing does not exist for women. Mid dudes have almost zero access unless they pay for it in some countries
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:35 AM
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If unattractive men were getting used for sex by attractive women they wouldn’t care lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:31 AM
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The part about so many being ran through now is often glossed over but super important. The beta bucks strategy was actually viable and not humiliating when ho’s didn’t exist as frequently but that’s entirely different now. Simping went from something romantic to humiliating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:14 AM
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Most women are not looking for casual but are willing to do it if the guy is out of their league. It’s very observable when women who are less attractive than you and your friends are open to that but the hotter ones aren’t. She may know she has a low chance for anything long term with a guy but she definitely still wants him. The percentage of men who are in high demand for casual sex but have trouble getting a relationship is extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:09 AM
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Most women can’t cuff the casual sex guy for long term so your scenario is atypical
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:34 PM
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The mental/emotional aspect is a familial or friendship. Without the physical component it’s like a brother sister relationship so obvi not as interesting. Most women want the same thing but they take the physical part for granted since it’s expected on their end. The women who are sexually rejected get crazy partly because it’s so unexpected for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:46 PM
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They are aware it can happen to others, just too entitled to believe it can happen to them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:19 AM
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Easily mitigated risk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:37 PM
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You’re assuming men and women are the same which is false. The entire premise is incorrect which leads women down the wrong path
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:34 PM
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The men most successful with attractive women are almost always rpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:28 PM
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Only fictional for women with limited options (mid)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 10:27 PM
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The population of women deemed attractive by men is far larger than that of men that women find attractive. Easy mode
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:58 PM
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Anyone whose actually been around a lot of women knows how much height plays a role
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:55 PM
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Women want what other women have, especially if it’s another hot woman. This means the dude will likely have a high body count. They also value experience far more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:45 AM
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Exactly. The market inhibits their choices. It’s the same reason hotter women go for attractive and taller men, their desires are not inhibited because they are highly valued by the market. When women say they don’t care for height you can bet they’re mid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:11 PM
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This says nothing about the quality of the man. A lot of dudes on here can get a gf tomorrow if they dated down
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:02 PM
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This is what happens when someone is fed the toxic ideas that men and women are the same. Absolutely astounding that an adult doesn’t understand male and females are different lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:48 PM
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The guys who are in the highest demand are often red pilled. This is why “toxic” men have such an overstated impact on the general dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:12 AM
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Nah almost all the good attractive guys are in serious relationships so if you filter for single guys, the attractive ones are morally suspect compared to the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:39 PM
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It’s so true about women thinking men can date out of their league too. I’ve seen it with friends gfs and my ex’s getting jealous about women we have no chance with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:33 PM
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Low self esteem and mental health issues is a huge swath of women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:03 PM
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This is true. They fail to highlight the prerequisite and many men don’t see how important that is. Women’s dating advice is often of a similar kind, they talk about things as if you’re already in a relationship (the easy part for men). Cart before horse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:36 PM
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All these dudes capping so hard lol Yes, a ho who rejects you is worse than a good girl. It’s basically an insult. Assault is a whole different animal tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:03 AM
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As long as he’s at least avg personality (which most ppl are) there are far more important factors. Example: tall dude w avg personality > short dude w above avg personality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:06 PM
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They aren’t really avoiding boys though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:15 PM
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Once you get good at the game, it’s hard to get out of it. The guys who are successful are hardly ever happy with the same chick for a long period of time. Hunters hunt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:47 AM
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What that means is that the number of women at least moderately valued far surpasses the number of men, statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:41 AM
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Depends on the guys level. Above average definitely the west, below the east. Dating is a zero sum game in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:19 AM
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Eastern Europe like Czech is completely different than a small village in Russia. You can bag an educated woman who has family values and is way hotter than her western counterpart
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:17 AM
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Procreated and married doesn’t mean success. Lot of ppl fit that definition and have crap lives
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:15 AM
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Ever heard of milfs? Women of all ages can be sexually attractive What you and many other women on here fail to understand is the difference between RMV and SMV. Older women’s rmv plummets, that’s not the same as smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:13 AM
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Only if a guy has low or no standards
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:48 PM
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Nah it hinges on his level. If he’s in her league she wants more effort than a guy better looking or higher status. If she deems him below (perhaps short for example) he has to move mountains to compensate. In many women’s minds this is perfectly acceptable and men should just get with it. Different rules for different guys. What this leads to is a vast bifurcation between the haves and have nots of men and once a guy gets wind of this reality, the desire to put in effort plummets. Very few men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:54 PM
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It leads to the same conclusion that he said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:49 PM
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It was good before the open air sex market lol Modern hookup culture made the average man’s dating live less than satisfactory which is the root of the problem. Beta bucks isn’t bad unless there’s alpha fucks. Women here will say blame Chad and it’s not their fault for taking the best option available. The true fault is with the culture, slut shaming women was a essential ingredient to society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:46 PM
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It’s very well documented that women want a man that other women want. It’s social proof and they want to one-up another hot chick. Most men have experienced this as well, we get a girl and other girls start showing interest. Of course this is 100% of women but it’s a common thing and completely different than men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:35 PM
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Complete opposite for me. A lot of opportunities for serious things but not really hookups. There were hookups too but always significantly less attractive chicks than going out on my own. Girl-friends seem to try to set you up w their mid friends more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:29 PM
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Many on Reddit are mid or ug so they say all kinds of shit to make themselves feel better. It’s politically correct and they want to live in a utopian fantasy So part of it is a different demographic of women, many are on here are older and married w kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:59 PM
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Observed knowledge shared by many different men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:30 PM
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Non chads have no incentive to desire that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:28 PM
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This is far less common than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:07 PM
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Most ppl share this view, it’s like saying the sky is blue lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:06 PM
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The guys who get the most women are 99% red pilled. Dudes who bag know female nature better than those who don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:34 PM
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You don’t know much about French culture and their obsessions with shared sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:17 PM
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OP trying to make this a man thing but doesn’t know much about French culture. They have this weird obsession with sharing/cheating and sex, it’s not normal and unique to the French
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:16 PM
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The majority still have done or do casual. Any sex outside of a relationship is casual so that includes situationships and sex when dating (which is where most women get their sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:51 PM
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Fat chicks give better head, it is known because men fuck down. Women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:16 PM
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Notice how no women on reddit dated chads Either they can’t evaluate or below mid and can’t pull because everyone knows average chicks can get Chad casually
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:28 AM
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Women’s reaction to it is normal, most men completely understand. The action is a direct result of the current dating economy so it’s also completely understandable why men behave this way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:42 AM
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This normal for the typical above average American woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:38 AM
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The disparity between a 5 man and a 8 man is huge, like a different species For women, there is a difference between a 5 and an 8 but they can still relate to things because some experiences are shared Dating for men is a zero sum game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:53 PM
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Depends on if they feel shame about it. I’ve heard the same conversations and it’s typically among like minded hoe friends by the looks of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:29 AM
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It’s PC culture
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:53 PM
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You don’t need to watch the show, just see google images. Chad and a mid, a tale as old as time. Watch her next partner be physically less attractive by measurable traits like height
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:46 PM
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Google search Devin and Jenn then hit images There’s your reason lol She’s like a 6 and he’s an 8. Chicks on here will say he’s not that hot but that dude can pull way hotter girls than Jenn just by height and facial genetics alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:43 PM
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I’m talking about average dudes, those are loser below average men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:52 PM
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Then you have the majority of women and a minority of men participating in the casual sex market like today. The tactics used to equal the playing field are a means to an end
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:51 PM
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Factors like height really aren’t that subjective lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:49 PM
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No arguments here its shitty for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:49 PM
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Those guys won’t be able to bag as effectively in the US or in many European cities. Just the height factor alone is limiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:58 PM
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It’s not the only thing, it’s the biggest weighted variable though, especially in the 20’s. You’re likely thinking of less attractive women who don’t have the opportunity to pick what they find attractive for something serious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:54 PM
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Women are only inhibited if the guys value is below a threshold. Most modern women have no inhibitions it’s a high value Chad so critical variable is the man’s value If slut shaming didn’t exist the same few guys would just get more sex, college campuses are a good example
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:22 AM
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They’re still doing those things just with a small portion of men. The bar for casual is far higher but it’s still met and therefore she’s still undesirable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:17 AM
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The typical man cannot get casual sex w out that manipulation. We don’t live in a utopian world where all is equal, casual is very much a zero sum game for men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:09 AM
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Women can always “do better out there” if they’re offering just sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:42 AM
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Anecdotally, it depends highly on age. Also women are far more promiscuous on average however a small number of promiscuous men put even them to shame
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:40 AM
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Bingo. These ones swallow the whole thing and stick it up their butt lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:43 PM
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Most men don’t have the option for bad decisions while women do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:42 PM
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Nah lol she has zero inhibitions w sex so it’s completely different than w most girls. These type also do freaky shit that other won’t do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:41 PM
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This. She’s super hot and has no gag reflex/takes it up the butt. All that personality shit is negligible lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:38 PM
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These ones are protected species, handle with care
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:44 AM
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The delta between her and the beta guy can’t be that far but yes it’s an effective strategy. It’s the only way a guy can bag out of his league. You’re underestimating how enticing a comfortable committed long term relationship is to many women. The cock carousel of chads gets old and empty after she’s racked up bodies, she wants something safe and comfortable now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:41 AM
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You just described what’s happening lol There’s no solution, it’s innate. Nobody can change biology and our current cultural framework. Tribal and religious slut shaming was effective but those morals have eroded
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:35 AM
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Nah I look on Facebook at the girls I used to list after…all mid wouldn’t touch them now Most men chase relative to their league
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:28 AM
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They think we are the same as them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:25 AM
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You’re talking about a dude w options, a minority. But yeah chads aren’t going to wait around if it’s not happening, on to the next
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:20 AM
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Wifey material single women are rarely attractive. You will have better luck winning the lotto in some states lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:18 AM
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Men and women are different, more news at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:19 PM
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Yes they do go from 0-100 “girl is into them” yeah he’s Chad lol You can use the same lines but 80% of men will get rejected. Chads can say out shit and she’ll just keep doing mental gymnastics to avoid the awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:19 PM
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Nah men no other men ain’t shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:02 AM
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Men and women are different, more news at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:42 PM
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Some attractive women get a confidence boost by being chosen by Chad. It’s like a competitive thing w other girls I think
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:27 PM
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You don’t care about diseases? Statistically the more he’s got around the higher the chances
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:25 PM
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Most admit it in other posts. “ of course we look for the hottest guy it’s just sex” They don’t like how it’s framed in comparison to relationship men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:32 AM
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Women can’t bag the same lvl of attractiveness for a long term relationship, that’s facts She has to settle in the high demand characteristics like height for example in her long term partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:59 PM
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Most women who partake in casual sex are doing it with men above their league. In terms of looks, women the casual guys are always better looking than her relationship options
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:26 PM
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Extremely rare for both in one guy so mostly they have to choose one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:09 AM
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She’s alpha widowed cause she can’t get that kinda guy with her kind of future vision
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:02 AM
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Curiously most attractive women don’t concern themselves with a man’s body count as much as
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:28 PM
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There are zero guys ok with waiting if they know she’s banging another dude without. Men are fine waiting if she’s not doing casual sex w anyone regardless of their quality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:05 PM
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It’s not really ego, women want to be desired the most by their partners as well otherwise what’s the point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:03 PM
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Modern women kinda screwed this because for most of history casual sex was not a thing for most women. The beta provider model was the general way men got coupled. Now many women are off banging chads while dating betas for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:58 PM
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The rules are very different depending on the guys level and circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:43 AM
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All those words to just say AF/BB lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:07 AM
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I have friends that are women and find them valuable. They don’t really expose you to viable women. Chad friends are superior if that’s your variable The point everyone is making is it’s farther down the list of important things you need to bag while for you it seems to be very high
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:15 PM
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Nothing improves your chances of a woman being interested in you than improving looks, status, and wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:03 PM
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Basically the same is true w my Armenian friends except it’s a American women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:33 AM
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Your threshold for good spaghetti is far higher than a man’s. Most ppl wouldn’t eat it off the ground but the average restaurant has a good spaghetti for most men. Women need a Michelin star restaurant quality spaghetti
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:16 AM
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If that’s your reality it tells me you don’t live in a major US city. The amount of single women who have 5 or less partners is so small once you filter for city’s and bmi
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:13 AM
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Of course it depends on her lvl too. Chad is relative. Most men I know have had casual sex w women below their league and relationships w women at their level
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:11 AM
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It’s definitely not black and white but it’s also not super complicated. The rules don’t exist if you’re high value enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:09 AM
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I actually don’t care it’s been linked here repeatedly forever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:06 AM
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The “feelings” change hence the criticism from men. One moment sex is scary and vulnerable so they can’t have it w you then the next moment it’s no big deal, just sex w a hot guy tehe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:20 PM
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All the women responding saying they would be fine being a six are full of it lol In real life zero women would be ok with that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:15 PM
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82% of women partake in casual sex and the majority do it it again. You’re in a bubble if you don’t know women who date casually, their intent doesn’t matter their actual actions do. Women are very happy to date and marry a guy if he’s high value regardless of his past. Value is paramount to women. Looks, status wealth etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:11 PM
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They only want to have sex w men out of their league and complain that those men dont care to know them better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:01 PM
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If it makes you feel any better a many of them would cease to want to have sex after getting to know her/you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:59 PM
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They don’t love sex as much as men* Fixed it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:57 PM
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They got casual sex w even more unattractive women lol Men fuck down and women fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:54 AM
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It’s becoming common knowledge that most women have casual sex so the guy dating likely already knows or thinks he knows she’s done it Men know once you meet the Chad threshold you get sex. Most men don’t make the cut so they have to get sex through any means necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:45 AM
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Men don’t get “used for sex” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:25 AM
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It’s why so many of the takes on here are so far from reality. Susan has been married 15 years yet she knows about the dating market for a 24 year old guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:12 PM
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That’s awesome but your type might be the minority albeit not insignificant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:52 AM
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Men hate being husbands/boyfriends to reformed ho’s It’s not easy for women to find long term commitment but they’re not even avoiding the obvious guys who will use them so they can start w that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:03 AM
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It depends what women are looking for (highly correlated w their age)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:46 AM
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*your love and commitment is worthless if you spent your youth fucking Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:44 AM
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Female nature was repressed for most of humanity because of this. AF/BB is inherent behavior for them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:42 AM
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Love based off a faulty foundation is not real. The women you described in your first paragraph will only love you in the familial sense, true love between a man and a woman has more layers than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:34 AM
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And yet the majority of women take the risk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:27 AM
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The majority of women have vastly different physical standards for hookups and are quite frank about this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:19 AM
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No, men don’t look at women who don’t peak their sexual interest Shocking I know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:37 PM
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If a woman is ok with having casual sex but does not want you to have it with you, she doesn’t find you as desirable sexually. You’re saying that men should be ok with that which is silly. If she doesn’t have casual sex at all and requires investment both emotionally and otherwise then it’s reasonable for a man to enjoy pursuing that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:31 PM
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She’s making assumptions on their thought process
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:57 PM
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Once you’ve been both guys you can see why it’s better to be the other guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:54 PM
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They can be attracted to parts of him but barely making the threshold gets different treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:41 PM
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You’re talking to a different demographic than you think. The women on here can’t bag that, they’re stepping away from dating because their options are mid dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:59 PM
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Women are ok w pumping and dumping if it’s an opportunity w chad. Some are ok w casual sex and the others might be using it as a way to get more from him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:34 PM
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Men have access to watching it not the actual women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:27 PM
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Ive work with Italians and they literally have told me exactly that. Apparently it’s really hard to get casual sex from local Italian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:12 PM
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American women are not competitive globally in rmv unless homeboy needs papers. For casual sex American, uk and Australian women are seen as the easiest for locals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:08 PM
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SMV different than RMV also papers. I know all my euro bros see American chicks as easy lays
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:06 PM
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It’s very well known that ho’s are often the most hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:18 AM
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There’s links to studies about it literally all over this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:48 PM
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Nah it’s basically an established fact. Men find a greater proportion of women attractive than women do men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:09 PM
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Men do it too but they find way more women attractive so per capita totally different results
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:56 PM
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I think a lot of women on here “don’t know” or “don’t think other men know” how women treat men based on their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:39 AM
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It’s a nothing thing. It’s only an issue if she wants you to treat her like something she’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:02 PM
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Those “reasons” are rules lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:53 PM
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Because hypergamy those women are all below his lvl
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:47 PM
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I’m the same. I have friends like this and they’re great but totally incompatible for a relationship w me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:01 PM
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They’re not a freakshow. The thing with those chicks is that they’re often not hot so their behavior seems like a way to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:27 PM
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Beta bux strategy is viable once he’s older but you’re getting leftovers w trauma and they expect more resources from you to compensate for their lack of Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:00 PM
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It doesn’t cut the dating pool, he’s not part of that either way. It’s a zero sum game
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:49 PM
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Imagine dating women who road the CC while you have zero experience despite your efforts. Immediate resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:40 PM
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More like weeks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:37 PM
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Terrible advice likely given from a woman’s perspective If a man isnt chasing he will never get anything but low quality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:50 AM
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One thing I’ve noticed very recently is that the younger chicks (early 20s) are having way less casual sex The Chad fucking of my cohort has definitely slowed but it still exists. Women are far more scared than when I was in college.
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:01 AM
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Delusion is thinking women go for their looks match. We already established that men are hornier and will fuck down, she’s not dating down from the goodness of her heart lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:52 AM
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Sad for her cause she can’t regularly bag a normal guy who showers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:51 AM
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Literally the bare minimum. Congrats, you can now fuck fat chicks who wear a pound of makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:49 AM
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lol you must not live in a big city if these are the guys you run across. Come to LA or nyc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:47 AM
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It’s also why they’re so insecure. Imagine only being really attracted to super hot models who would bang you but you need to compete against every other guy to get
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:46 AM
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Hot women that are out of my league* And no, they don’t do that lol Would be nice though, at least gives me a chance to bag. That’s what mid women think when they fuck hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:43 AM
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Nah they’re even pickier In every friend group there’s 1/5 guys that gets all the majority of the girls. It’s almost a zero sum game. She’s picking her type which is the 1/5 guy from different friends groups That and there are some traits that many women find attractive and very few guys have like tall height for example
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:40 AM
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lol the amount of women who are into choking is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:51 PM
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The planet where ugly men can marry attractive women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:56 PM
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That’s a hypothetical, women w top men is reality. Theoretically men would but they’d also fuck down and across like top men do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:15 PM
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You haven’t met many tall successful men in their early 30s to see what everyone else sees lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:12 PM
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We’re talking about just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:08 PM
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Wow didn’t know pride > happiness that explains a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:10 PM
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You don’t live in a big city or don’t know enough people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:01 PM
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Not if he’s just trying to bag Still hit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:58 PM
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Women don’t find the majority of men attractive while men find much more women attractive. This leads to most women banging the same few guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:56 PM
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It’s not “men and women”, it’s a completely different game for women. The mid women will get the same sexual interest as the elite lvl bros, we are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:49 PM
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They’re rejected him well before lol Plenty of dudes who watch it get laid still, it’s not a critical variable. Looks and status are though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:35 PM
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Nah dating gets way easier as a man once he hit 30. The type of girls my friends and I I get now > what we could pull in our early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:29 PM
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Men want variety, their best lover is the next one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:39 PM
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You get into the relationship then start to despise her duh lol This happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:30 PM
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Keyword is hot. The baddies can always get what they want, point blank. Just like most men aren’t up to the casual sex threshold, most women aren’t hot enough to compensate for their negative past
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:14 PM
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That’s just not true, a very large percentage of women settle in their partner. Far more often than men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:10 PM
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If you filter for single people, it’s the exact opposite by a mile in my social groups. Seems like it’s the same for other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:16 PM
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And yet we’ve all had examples of the same specific things happening in our lives lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:34 PM
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Its not secretly lying if you’re actually delusional It’s like a murderer whose clinically insane, automatic manslaughter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:33 PM
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Nah they’re definitely having sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:40 PM
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This was very apparent in college/post grad when your girl friends have hook ups and assume the majority of men do too so you have to play it off like you get it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:16 AM
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It’s easier to win her heart than her pussy. It’s a pointless endeavor, just get what you want and move on because bagging her is hard enough as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:32 PM
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There’s a window of opportunity but that time period has a limit, homeboy has to know when to fold
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:28 PM
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The type of man who would be knowingly be content in that relationship is not attractive to most women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:24 PM
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If you graphed their bfs heights over x-time, it would be linear downward line, same w looks lol Responsibility, finances and some other things would go up linearly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:42 AM
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The categories men look for are different than the ones women look for Men dgaf if she’s super successful in her career lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:24 AM
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RMV vs SMV If a guy can a 8/10 for a relationship that means for sex he’s getting 6/10’s, a lot of them. But very few 8/10’s, his options are mostly mids
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:22 AM
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It’s part of it but they’re also way hornier at a baseline so their threshold for attraction is lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:19 AM
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Kardashian type is only attractive to a particular demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:01 PM
2

Imagine a sexless loving marriage lol But the real kicker is that she does have desire to have sex w certain other ppl just not him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:49 AM
2

This just wastes more of her time before the dumping lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:39 AM
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She’s only worth waiting and putting in that effort if she’s not a 304. The minute we find out she is it feels like a waste of time and resources. This is the first step to resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:16 AM
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Correct. This is why we say they’re sleeping w the same few men and upset
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:40 AM
1

Some do but the delta is between those two types isn’t as pronounced
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:50 PM
2

The vast majority of women partake in casual sex, particularly in major western cities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:47 PM
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Exactly this. The more ambiguous they make it the safer they feel They are just like men but they have significant dating advantages that affect their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:46 PM
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They don’t get it confused, they make exceptions for a proportionally small number of men. If what you said was true women wouldn’t have casual sex but the majority do and they do it w chads
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:24 PM
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Nah they do. The Chad chasing isn’t fun anymore since they aren’t getting cuffed, so they’re putting out way less
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:50 PM
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Povo chicks can’t bag those guys lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:02 AM
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“So many straight men want to do butt stuff but don’t because it’s degrading” lmaooo this like teen vogue
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:20 PM
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Men typically don’t have delusions they can actually bag that tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:14 PM
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You’re right but you don’t necessarily know they are trashy scum at the time. Some of them actually aren’t but they are going through a trashy phase, that’s what makes it difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:12 PM
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They can’t bag a rich guy if they tried tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:38 PM
1

It’s matters first and it’s the highest weighted variable but most women don’t like to say that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:36 PM
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They want average men to simp for them so they can get the treatment they crave after getting piped by chads It’s not settling for them since they aren’t comparing the two, beta dudes compete with each other for who will save her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:32 PM
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Math is misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:26 PM
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Someone who lived on ten million dollars then on 100,000 will definitely notice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:17 PM
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The 6’5 Orc kidnapping her or the 6’4 billionaire lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:30 PM
1

The threshold to be deemed attractive is by women is vastly different
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:49 PM
4

This is Apex fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:34 AM
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Probably because they don’t date men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:58 AM
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1 dollar on the floor means nothing to a billionaire If she has baggage a little more is just a drop in the bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:53 AM
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Those events are statistically outliers but what he says actually happens and a notable frequency. It’s like not getting in the ocean because you’re scared of sharks but drowning from a rip tide is way more probable. Ppl talk about sharks because it’s scary same as abuse and rap*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:39 PM
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They should be pickier for character tbh If women prioritized that the world would be a better place
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:24 PM
6

Not picky for character but picky for other variables
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:23 PM
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It hasn’t occurred to you yet but one day you will see that women can be just as immoral as men, their desires are not all pure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:18 AM
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I think it’s that and the level of chick they have in mind. Women > men so nothing is wrong with a fat chick dating a fit dude. Irl the fit guy is not going to consider her but to them it’s a viable option
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:14 AM
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I had the same pathway but low key there is some resentment just because you see hypergamy from the other perspective. Seeing women below your level think they’re in your league is a bigger rp revelation than when you were equal or below and they rejected you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:57 AM
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Willful ignorance blue pill logic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:58 PM
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More likely that you’re the big fish in a small pond
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:28 PM
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The average man isn’t getting that much attention from the opposite sex so most of those are not probable occurrences. Hypergamy and rate of opportunity means detrimental affects will occur at a higher probability
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:53 PM
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The premise is women good men bad so the reverse engineer everything to fit this narrative lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:48 PM
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Men cheat too but women have more frequent opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:04 AM
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It’s a belief not an attitude and yes I’ve had gf’s lol Older and married just means you’re completely removed from todays dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:44 AM
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You touched on it, the validation from high level guys feels good and relieves those insecurities (temporarily) Same thing w a mid dude? Kills her self worth. She feels worthless because she slept w a mid dude. Literally the same exact action but her feelings are completely different. Promiscuous women raise their standard for treatment drastically but not looks. They can’t bag the same level guy they did casually because rmv and smv are different
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:42 AM
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Can’t have both, those guys aren’t in the dating market, theyve already got top tier wives that she can’t compete with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:35 AM
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Not possible unless she drastically improves her level which is not probable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:33 AM
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Inspiring ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:18 PM
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Their self perception is inflated by the attention from men out of their league. When they give a mid guy a chance and he plays them, it hurts more than the hot guy. Why? Because the value of the dude influences their self perception. Men fuck down so more women get attention from dudes out of their league. That’s why it feels like settling when they pair up with an equal match
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:16 PM
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Literally saying the same thing lol Maturing = caring about his rmv more than his smv
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:09 PM
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It’s the same thing. She’s not actively thinking about it but her hypergamy is driven by biology, it’s intrinsic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:32 PM
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Everyone one of us have met guys like this, it’s a fact. Men aren’t as picky when looking just for sex, women are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:14 AM
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Of course not, it isn’t something premeditated. AF/BB is biological ingrained in women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:58 PM
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There’s differences but the heavily weighted variables are typically aligned (height, jaw structure etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:06 AM
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There’s differences but the heavily weighted variables are typically aligned (height, jaw structure etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:05 AM
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The guys they want are in high demand so they have to give it up, female competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:04 PM
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Reddit women live in an ulterior universe. You can see their answers to stuff, it’s the most pc feel good Disney crap lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:25 AM
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OP discovers that the cart does go before the horse
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:49 PM
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“They might have one or two Chad traits” lol just glosses over that like it’s nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:48 PM
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OP proves that anybody can be friend zoned
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:29 AM
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They’re very numerous in the dating market for most men since most men aren’t Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:01 PM
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Literally take the blue pill and live this fake happy life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:59 PM
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Every single person in a relationship has compared themselves to their current partners past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:54 PM
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Her value is most likely lower because looks depreciate and the trauma from caulks past will haunt her future partner
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:52 PM
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Men bad women gud
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:49 PM
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Or Women being more insecure because they interested in dudes out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:50 PM
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Their market is solely with dudes who can’t pull, the ones that can aren’t interested in a long term relationship w a single mom There’s no shortage of beta dudes that can’t pull
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:23 AM
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But a woman with kids isn’t leftover saying scraps? The math isn’t mathing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:54 PM
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Idk about significant. My friend who is a Chad definitely has and I’ve also done it but we both have options so we’re far more picky than most dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:52 PM
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Nah even low body count chicks dabble with those guys, see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:31 PM
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Even then it’s not worth the disease risk. She would have to be ridiculously hot to mitigate for the disgust lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:28 PM
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Women who can already do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:25 PM
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Yes, attractive single women in that age are exceedingly rare and have a plethora of options
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:24 PM
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The amount of fit women in the US is very small particularly single fit women. They have a plethora of options since they have no competition Younger women in the US aren’t more fit, it’s just their genetics and that their metabolism hasn’t changed, it’s why you see a drastic drop after 25
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:22 PM
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Most ppl would agree that the dude in your example is delusional That is rare but the example the guy above you said is far more prevalent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:19 PM
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Mental gymnastics, how is using her fertility with another man supposed to be attractive to a new guy lol Just stick with the baby daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:17 PM
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That’s just making things up. 24-28 is ideal tbh but younger can be valid if she’s in the top 1% of her age for maturity (unlikely) If a guy is just looking to smash younger is better because they’re hotter and more likely riding the CC
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:15 PM
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They don’t think they physically look better, their status and wealth improves and women tend to care about that more once she hits mid-late 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:04 PM
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They think conquering a woman means you’re more likely to marry her or cuff lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:32 AM
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You’re exactly right. The mid ones are a higher proportion of the population as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:44 PM
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Their league according to you, not them. You’re conflating rmv and smv again. A smart rich guy who is mid looking will bag a hot chick and thinks she’s beneath his league because she is. His Rmv is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:04 PM
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Yeah they lie to themselves along the way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:56 PM
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Most women aren’t all that either men are just hornier and the threshold to bang is lower. Hard to imagine but hormones are different, if you lowered mens testosterone levels way less women would get attention
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:50 AM
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Nah that doesn’t explain all the women who know you know that they fuck lol like if you have mutual friends or they’ve straight up told you before. Unless you believe they have goldfish memory lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:46 AM
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A lot of women fail to see the “why” in these things. Men don’t put effort like they used to because they know women give it up nowadays. Chivalry is dead because of the change in women’s behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:43 AM
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She’s risking it more by fucking the same guy everyone else slept with, where’s the logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:36 AM
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Yes. It takes time to learn that they’re slurs only for certain guys, nobody with a functioning brain believes the sexual market is equitable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:32 AM
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We already established she’s not wife material I’ve dated women who literally mentioned stories involving tangents where they slept around…so not doing it with me is a low key dig at me, not that I take it personally. It’s insult to injury because you know she fucks but just not with you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:31 AM
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It’s solipsism They know that men fuck down they just think that it would never apply to them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:14 AM
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He’s right that nobody asks but second paragraph is completely wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:53 PM
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I know women who say this that have fucked my high body count guy friends 😂 To be fair I know men who do the same but they’re more honest about it and they’re clear that she’s not relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:52 PM
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It’s not necessarily the number but the fact that it happened is highly indicative that he has traits that women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:49 PM
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You’re talking to a very specific demographic of women. The ones who are doing all this definitely know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:38 PM
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Even married women don’t understand the difference between SMV and RMV. Imagine thinking horny dudes wanting to bang women has anything to do with her being married lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:43 AM
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A warm apple pie should have an ego lol The someone who wants to date her is not the one she wants, in fact knowing thats the dude will probably destroy her ego
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:40 PM
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*for sex, they aren’t getting cuffed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:37 PM
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They know it but they just don’t ever consider it could apply to them. Solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:35 PM
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The value makes it different, if women could only get dicked by being valuable then it would be the same, they do not. In fact even fat and poor women get laid w men above their league
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:17 PM
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They don’t “value” sex like men so they don’t think it’s a big deal…but then it becomes a big deal in other discussions lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:15 PM
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I have friends who are girls that have done this, can’t say for sure that some girls did or did not behave this way with me but probably. I can for sure say that they banged some dudes (I know them) fast while making others wait, it’s very common. Women treat you based on an internal hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:14 PM
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Yeah so per capita they find way less of the opposite sex fuckable, this means less horny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:05 PM
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The market quickly corrects male delusion, women conflate smv and rmv all the time so the distinction isn’t realized. Women know that men are easy but for some reason don’t think it applies to them so when Chad wants to bang, it’s a major confidence boost
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:03 AM
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If slut shaming ceased to exist the same dudes getting laid now would just get more women. Hypergamy is a feature not a bug
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:09 AM
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What happens is that the girls very clearly below your league in your social circle pursue you, it makes it so you have to act cold otherwise they’ll think you’re interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:39 PM
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Ever heard of testosterone? lol Look at women’s behavior when they’re on gear, most of the ppl don’t lift so they’ll never see it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:12 AM
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Men and women aren’t the same, if someone actually believes that they are already lost
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 03:05 PM
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Everything is about chads for them, being a slut is sacred since it’s their access to him. All comparisons are made between them and him, not other average dudes. He bangs many bitches so why is it bad if she has sex They drank the kool aid and think men and women are the same, add some delusions of grandeur and wala
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 03:02 PM
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For below average to busted women the bar seems low since their options are busted dudes. They lack the self awareness to realize they’re just as crusty if not worse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:55 AM
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I can’t fathom how anyone can actually believe it’s equitable, these folks live in a utopian fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:53 AM
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Mid women quite frequently have the same experience of above mid women, the quantities of those populations are obviously different so more women in total have the experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:22 AM
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Very simply, the 50th percentile woman often has the experience of the 80th percentile man, you extrapolate those numbers and then think of the implications
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:21 AM
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You don’t know a lot of fuck bois, she’s not cool, they talk shit about the women they’re actively banging too They’re very selective for sure but through caution out the window if he’s hot enough. With this high threshold you would think they would work past the experience unscathed yet they develop trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:12 AM
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Mostly because they don’t know that much about it. If it was fully transparent there would be a crapload more divorces/breakups. Hot bitches would still get guys to cuff them but those dudes would be a lower lvl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:02 AM
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Imagine being so fragile that this is “soul crushing” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:00 AM
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You literally just explained how they both have double standards lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:29 AM
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The point is the same chick will have a different reaction depending on the dude, alpha ducks beta bucks. Hot guy for casual and mid for relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:25 AM
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None of those experiences are attractive, all those women tainted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:23 AM
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Equating attention with wanting a relationship is so absurd. 90% just want to bang or casually date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:55 PM
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This is a common theme with women on ppd, I’m talking about the inability to comprehend macro trends and instead fixate on individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:08 PM
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Yup, the only guy I knew who actually did it and worked was an ex college football player w a horse I don’t think women know other women as well as they think they do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:08 PM
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Very simple, women fuck up and men fuck down. Promoting casual sex doesn’t get the average guy laid, it gets Chad even more pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:59 AM
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It won’t make sense to ppl brainwashed enough to think men and women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:57 AM
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If you watch the NBA, nobody gaf when the 7 ft center dunks, it’s not impressive. When the point guards do it the whole crowd stands up. We are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:54 AM
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This is exactly how I did it, there’s no other way to get the experience necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:16 PM
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OP clearly doesn’t know enough women, there are some much hotter than her who would take that deal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:54 AM
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This is true. Women here don’t accept that since it would lead to uncomfortable conclusions about their own value, no, getting fucked by chads doesn’t mean your his lvl lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:35 PM
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It’s because bp is more true for younger women, rp becomes more accurate as they mature
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:31 PM
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I’ve known way too many unmasculine hot dudes who run through women. Nobody cares if after she gets to know him she’s less attracted, they were already fucking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:49 PM
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Very apparent that very few ppl lift here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:48 PM
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Makes since 100% You are honest and equate it to the bros wearing cutoff tanks to flex, that’s exactly what it’s like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:46 PM
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They’re so full of it that they actually believe themselves lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:45 PM
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Lmaooo That’s why most the gym bros where xxxl a multiple sizes too baggy 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:44 PM
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The second method of desire is not innate, it’s transactional. Most men would want the first way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:21 PM
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This would be true if only not “nice” women went for assholes. All kinds of them go for him from nice to not and everything in between. The common variables that are weighted heavily seem to be looks, height, status, success/wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:15 PM
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In what world lol Men don’t have access to women out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:07 PM
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They don’t simp as hard because they get it sooner and aren’t as desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:03 PM
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The bar is far higher than they anticipated but once it’s met, the floodgates of women are open
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:01 PM
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They definitely push for it, I think he means they cut their losses sooner if they feel it won’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:59 PM
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Both your comments are spot on. For the last part, winning by doing things for her isn’t really winning lol For men if you’re not the first guy might as well go full transactional with more transparency
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:57 PM
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A fwb or someone she occasionally fucks is still casual. Most casual sex is not a one night thing, situationship is the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:32 AM
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Societies modern blue pill version is not attractive to many women, particularly women of quality whose preferences are aligned more closely masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:10 PM
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The women on here think we observe hypergamy from the “have not” section of men but it’s really illuminating when you see it from the other side. Mid women routinely overestimate themselves and ignore are disgusted by their equal lvl men, I’m saying this as the guy who can get them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:53 PM
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Of every factor it’s probably the highest ROI when young. As you get older other factors are weighted more heavily
/r/seduction15/02/24 06:48 PM
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Just become Chad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:42 PM
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If casual sex didn’t exist you’d have a point, it’s rampant. Most women partake at least a bit. Women are chadsexual, the hang ups you listed mostly just exist for guys who aren’t up to par
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:31 PM
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Chadsexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:27 PM
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Chads change the context
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:26 PM
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All that and she gets piped by chads Most American women partake in casual sex at some point, all your points are moot. The dual mating strategy is exposed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:24 PM
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They go for the pasta and pipe. Majority are getting railed by local talent and they knew that going in. Most chicks turn to ho’s when they go abroad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:10 AM
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The average dude in west LA area is average build and like 5’9 while making around 150k It’s all relative
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:32 PM
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Women can be normal but hypergamy is innate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:58 PM
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Standards matter. I have crap load of guy friends, the ones getting girls every week all have low standards, no exceptions. Even the chad ones are pulling fires that frequently, they go down a league or two for an easy lay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:40 PM
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This isn’t a competition, we are all just discussing behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:37 PM
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It’s mostly based on age so younger women tend to prioritize the looks more and as they get older they shift to resources. Status is more of a constant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:35 PM
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Nah you’re above avg but definitely not 95%. You have a very accurate assessment of your level tbh, one dude said you’re 95% but he’s an anomaly and probably bottom 10% lol This actually shows how self aware men are while even fat women call themselves 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:29 AM
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Men will literally cheat on their 10/10 gf with a mid, we are horny and like variety. Women are hypergamous and want the best while being less horny Biologically we are built to be immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:02 PM
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You’re literally describing redpill, he does all that to compensate because he’s below your league lol Chad doesn’t do any of that yet has women who want him both casually and in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:59 PM
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I’m talking about alpha fucks beta bucks, they’re not getting commitment Men aren’t hypergamous but they are polygyny which one can definitely argue is immoral. Totally agree with your second paragraph, biology is not moral. Your definition of winning is different than most men’s. Wifing up a former Chad fucker who utilized the dual mating strategy is an L. Chads got the better deal in that regard, not the beta husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:53 PM
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A lot of words for: Alpha fucks Beta bucks There’s nothing wholesome about women’s hypergamous behavior lol The biological precursors are not moral and the only way the average guy can get any under these circumstances is to finesse. Only difference is that men know and accept their behavior as immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:19 PM
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Alpha fucks beta bucks It’s funny because all the women agree lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:43 PM
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This is why average guys must finesse women for experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:42 PM
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If slutshaming didn’t exist the same few men would get even more sex, it will never be equitable due to hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:41 PM
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This is a great posts because it really exposes the logic. A lot of women beat around the bush on this topic. Alpha fucks Beta bucks straight from the source
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:39 PM
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If all the safety and std concerns become negligible if he’s hot enough, they weren’t really concerns. The dudes who care the least about women’s pleasure often get the most pussy, they don’t care about pleasing one individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:36 PM
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That’s exactly what he saying, depending on the guys level she’ll either be a prude or bang him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:32 PM
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It’s not something you always know right away lol You can be with someone for a while before you find details of their history
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:29 PM
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Nah it’s that women’s biological drive is for those things, not that they all necessarily partake in them. It’s about intent. Men’s drivers have been viewed negatively for a long time but women were immune to this until recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:36 PM
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Even then it’s mids that approach him. The top percent of women are giving that guy signals but that’s it, hot women don’t approach
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:17 PM
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That’s why the only women who tend to approach are far below the guys league
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:15 PM
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Every women that’s ever approached me or a friend has been below our league. Hot women almost never approach
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:14 PM
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Attractive women basically never approach The women who do are typically mids trying to get a guy out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:13 PM
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who they’re attracted to means something very different for women than men. Just numerically far fewer dudes so in practice it’s very different
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:11 PM
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The dudes they’re getting are far below the average lad so you’re not missing something. An average woman could get the same with those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:22 PM
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They’re also uglier and typically have weird personalities compared to the avg person
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:40 PM
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He has to be exceptionally socially poor to struggle w his background. At that point you’re talking about an outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:24 PM
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Women are hypergamous so once you get gud you’re bagging mids, the same chicks I would have been happy to get. Peoples standards shift when they get gud, the girls I was obsessing over in college are ones I would leave on read now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:36 AM
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Lmao just no. People arent making decisions based on what society would thinks, if the guy gives her tingles she banging Dudes aren’t getting laid because they don’t meet the threshold, not because of slutshaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:33 AM
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It’s why at least 50% of the discussions here are pointless endeavors. You have some back and forth to understand their logic and come to understand that they don’t acknowledge basic biological differences lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:20 AM
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The fact that so many women think all men are having it tells you a lot about who they’re focused on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:57 PM
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OP is literally doing that in this post lol It’s not that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:01 PM
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Lol dude brings up HIV like it’s related
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:54 PM
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Anyone who thinks hookup culture is dead does not have Chad friends. Literally just get a few Chad friends and observe, the amount of women they go through is insane. Women slut it up for chads, the majority of men are not it so the observable casual sex is far lower for the unexposed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:51 PM
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You overrate the capabilities of friends groups. I have a large social network, there are very few single attractive women friends of friends that are also open to you. Attractive, single and potentially interested. There are a crapload of mid friends of friends, there are also attractive ones here and there but their body counts are through the roof and personalities are below mid. In my experience, social groups are better utilized as a way to social proof and bag strangers at a bar. Even the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:55 PM
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There are men on here that meet his standards (and then some) but it doesn’t matter if they aren’t willing to lower their standards. The women who want you will always be below your league so it doesn’t matter where a man is on the scale. Above average dude isn’t interested in mid women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:48 PM
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The delta between a woman’s outward version of herself and her actual self is typically far larger than a man’s This has obvious implications
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:16 AM
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Our value determines what we deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:55 AM
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No only that man, if she dated dudes her level she’d get wifed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:53 AM
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RMV, her SMV is higher. But yeah, forever gf is dating a dude who thinks he’s out of her league, it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. Market value is determined by the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:52 AM
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A lot of this is mitigated by dating within her league and being wifey material. A mid who used to fuck w chads and now gets with an average dude w high income is not dating within her league, he’s gonna want more. (Typical scenario)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:50 AM
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Easily mitigated by not dating out of her league. Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher, imagine the level of delusion needed to think that’s the same league
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:46 AM
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They’re more understanding/willing to accept it if he’s hot enough, it’s par for the course. The same fboy behavior from a normal dude is looked upon with disgust. There are countless posts from women which back up that. Fboy behavior is tolerated if he’s Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:31 AM
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Your circle isn’t common. Bama doesn’t have big cities and it’s the Bible Belt, ppl are more religious so less casual sex. I’m talking about large coastal cities with higher costs of living; Miami, NY, LA, SF and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:23 AM
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It’s a bubble in that her circle doesn’t go out a lot. Upper middle class, big city, goes out regularly on weekends…in that circle there are very few women who haven’t got around to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:45 PM
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Yes if all your friends have partners it’s unlikely that there will be a lot of casual sex I look primarily at the single demographic when I make statements on here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:04 PM
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You are in a bubble then. In a major modern western city you would be hard pressed to find women who didn’t engage in casual sex with men out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:54 PM
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They’re ok with it if he’s hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:53 PM
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You think it’s words when most of us have physically seen everything up until the insertion lol I don’t have to be in the room to know they banged
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:53 PM
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One of my Chad friends has piped multiple different girls I know. Basically if he meets them, the probability of them hooking up is 50-60% which is crazy if you think about. Some of my other Chad friends are pickier but have the same capabilities with women. Women are ho’s for Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:51 PM
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I know and am friends with some of these women, they definitely don’t do it regularly. There are rules for men and then there are rules for chads, women slut it up for chads
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:48 PM
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Low key this is my game but you’re making a mistake thinking he won’t want something casual. Guys that are good at this are 90% players and just because he bagged u at a grocery store doesn’t mean he wants something serious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:21 PM
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Maybe for you, luckily some women don’t fixate on one trait
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:18 PM
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Who says I’m not? Hot dudes get more success, their definition is different than women’s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:15 PM
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Sadly they’re not enough non mediocre men to satisfy mediocre women’s cravings
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:14 PM
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They’re cold approaching a lot in certain cities OP needs to visit LA or Miami, if she doesn’t get approached there it might be her looks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:12 PM
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Body yes face is average probably. Physically my biggest detriment is my bald head otherwise I’d easily be above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:36 AM
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Same with me. The problem with this strategy is the numbers, friends of friends that are both hot and single are rare. In my friend groups it’s really uncommon, they’re literally all formal or current ho’s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:33 AM
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Women don’t want to think that they might be the short men of women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:22 AM
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We don’t want ho’s, respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:17 AM
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That’s the key variable that’s conventionally left out lol They can’t bag a hot good good dude but can get in a situationship with a hot shitty dude
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:29 AM
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You don’t have Chad friends and it shows lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:22 AM
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99% of casual sex is just Chad banging mids Its transactional in the sense that his genetics pay for entry in women’s short term mating strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:52 PM
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Nah it’s more due to unencumbered female nature, there’s never been a time where hypergamy could run wild without checks and balances. The average man had a lot more value to the average woman in most of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:38 PM
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6 figures is nothing in High cost of living cities. Literally 100k is low income in some California counties (look it up) It’s all relative, the ppl who are surprised lived in bummy ass areas lol Same thing about getting laid, bagging a mid to fuck isn’t the goal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:01 AM
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It’s a zero sum game so a few get all the experiences. Every group of guys has one dude that bags all the women. For women it’s more equally distributed The fact that I have to describe this says a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:54 PM
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Double teamed then, most men never have threesomes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:46 PM
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Majority of men don’t want a girl whose been gangbanged lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:41 PM
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So many breakups would occur overnight if threesomes were disclosed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:16 PM
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It’s rarely once and it’s usually tied to his value (looks, money status etc ). Even women on here will tell you that, casual sex for high value dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:07 PM
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Most of the time it was obvious to everyone but her but she was blinded because of chad. If even her girlfriends knew then it’s pretty obvious. It does happen where a bad dude flies under the radar but those guys are actually very rare and yes, very scary
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:05 PM
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Past behavior isn’t biological“flaws”, perhaps you can say behavioral
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:02 PM
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Past behavior isn’t biological“flaws”, perhaps you can say behavioral
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:02 PM
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Hypergamy makes it very likely that she’s settling, the difference is some women don’t think it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:58 PM
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Nah, hot guys can and do fuck down. If you have enough chad friends you can see how often they bang mids, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. The hotter she is the more he has to work for it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:47 PM
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Apex fallacy, the majority of men never had such power but the top percent did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:39 PM
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Biology is important
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:37 PM
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Nah this is a common experience. Religious and less educated is uncommon for Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:34 PM
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It’s a great insight, I think it would decrease no matter what but the rate would be far less steep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:32 PM
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Basically. Even if they’re hot only dudes w a beta mindset are gonna stick w them long term. Those hot bitchy chicks have to date down in terms of looks too if they want long term
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:20 AM
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It’s just about how hot she is but y’all will try to find any other reasons besides the obvious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:10 AM
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How hot she is is the main thing but y’all try to find other reasons besides the obvious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:07 AM
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Doesn’t matter how tall he is if he has a beta complex. A dude groveling at the feet of somebody is simpy af
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:06 AM
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What was the quality of said men lol A queen of fleas is no flex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:04 AM
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Unless they’re dating down no guy would put up with it. It’s like those bitchy foreign women on 90 day fiancé, only reason the guys put it with it is because they can’t bag anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:02 AM
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Best husbands = betas w resources lol The dudes w options aren’t going for the bitchy girls unless they’re fine af
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:53 AM
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Yeah the girls who put out get the most male attention. Busted fat chicks learn this in highschool as a way to socially compete
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:51 AM
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If you’re a guy just trying to smash you obvi want them to put out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:23 PM
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You say it like it’s a bad thing but most guys would be happy w someone afraid of dicks. You overcame it and like them now, a woman in a long term relationship can experience the same thing with a patient loving partner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:16 PM
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Ppl are judged for everything to a degree, it’s ridiculous to live in a world where behavior is not criticized
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:14 PM
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There’s no correlation between how hot she is, in fact it’s more likely inversely correlated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:10 PM
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A quick glimpse at the biological differences would clear up any confusion (unless you believe that to be fake)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:09 PM
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Yeah I don’t doubt that, the ones that do say it in front of men are a certain type usually
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:22 PM
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Yeah I would agree, the mids have the highest body counts since they have access to guys out of their league but it’s only temporary. The hot ones can lock those guys down. The attractive single women (most are in relationships) are getting dicked by someone though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:54 PM
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It’s only not a big deal because the stakes are low, those dudes aren’t marrying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:50 PM
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He’s not talking about 1 hookup, repeated casual sex does have negative ramifications
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:39 PM
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Very true, the majority in America have partaken and if she’s attractive + single she’s very likely getting dicked by someone, it’s too easy for them to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:37 PM
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Women definitely say this but usually they’re drunk and typically unattractive. Very rarely does it come out of the mouth of the hot feminine women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:35 PM
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Sometimes this is true but more often than not it’s about the guys, how hot/status etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:30 PM
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There’s a lot of overlap in what people like. Traits like height, status etc are coveted by many women. This is why in every group of guy friends there is one dude that pulls the majority of women, he’s desirable to a broad scope of them. The rest of the dudes have to build a connection to even have a shot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:49 PM
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Nah most of the men are here to say shit that’s their reality but not pc in our society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:34 AM
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Had to scroll pretty far to see this. Ppl often think it’s all about chads but what really sends the message home about hypergamy is the women below your level trying to get with you. I could make a graph with a function of her BMI and if she’s sleeping with me, it would exponential as you moved along the x axis lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:21 PM
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Not for dudes with standards, bagging mid chicks isn’t a W
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:14 PM
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Women don’t need to like it a lot to enjoy the benefits, access to chads. Without society inhibiting the casual sex market, women have access to men they would previously not have a chance with. This is why so many women partake in it while not liking it. Opportunities with chad > casual sex itself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 04:12 PM
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While I agree it also means the chick is low iq There are attractive women with low body counts despite the same opportunities, since you’ve seen both types you’d know that they’re typically smarter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:25 AM
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Rare look at female psychology regarding casual sex w hot guys Chick goes on date, doesn’t work out but he’s down for fwbs. she’s upset because he’s not even that hot lol If he’s hot enough she would
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:46 PM
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The fact that you have to say this says a lot lol don’t waste your time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 07:41 AM
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“Only high body count women experience sexual pleasure “
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:49 AM
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Don’t like it. Throughout history most men were happy with low body count women, I don’t think that’s changed. What has changed is a larger percentage of women sleep around now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:36 AM
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Honestly just 1 would be a game changer but for the healthiest market I’d say 1 and 6
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:32 AM
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Those statistics are diluted by the irrelevant Filter for 20s-early 30s not super religious in large American cities. Women w under 10 bodies is rarer than those who have over that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:30 PM
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As she gets older social skills matter more in the overall scope of attraction but mid personality and above average in looks/status/wealth still trumps. Those traits are weighted more by women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:42 PM
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It’s nothing to brag about just facts, men have a lower threshold and are hornier. Don’t know how women can be oblivious to this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:40 PM
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“Doing well” doesn’t mean bagging ugly or average chicks, they’re actually below his league since their personalities are mid while at the same looks level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:37 PM
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Nah it’s monogamous w chad > situationship w chad > single > monogamous w mid dude Dropping the monogamous part without any pretense kills it for a lot of women, they’d rather be single
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:37 AM
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Shorty in the back has the same standards, height is a highly desirable trait for women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:46 PM
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Solipsism, delusion, entitlement all in a short clip You see this all the time on here, they’ll drone on about how men need to just be nice, listen blah blah blah How much do you make, how tall are you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:55 PM
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It’s good to understand the why of things even if it makes ppl uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:43 PM
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After getting piped by chad. Look at who they used to date vs who they end up with, typically they trade looks/height for financial success as they age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:41 PM
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Women are still easy, you just have to be chad. Men value looks but the bar is lower while women value looks and other things like finances
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:41 PM
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I would see the majority of attractive men are red in my life, anecdotal but still. The blue dudes are typically either from out of state or a small rural town, often religious too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:38 PM
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Because a lot of the times you find that the quality of women to be poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:34 PM
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None of that will change the delta between smv and rmv. Hypergamy will still exist, goalposts just move
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:55 AM
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Nah it’s not the same, almost all women have multiple options for sex. The top 20% of men has the same abundance as the 50th percentile woman lol Men and women aren’t the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:48 AM
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There’s actually an opposite imbalance if the guy is chad, this clearly shows that it’s not casual sex that’s the problem but rather value the guy provides her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:56 AM
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Women experience selfish lovers because they all are attracted to the same few men who have multiple options, of course they won’t care to satisfy every single one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:51 AM
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By the time it’s “painful” the high standards decisions have already been made.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:48 AM
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There’s no world where experienced women are sexually desiring inexperienced men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:27 PM
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Not much to say about personal anecdotes about your success with women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:28 PM
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Seems like you’re hyper focused on that assault bit, feminist kool aid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:25 PM
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You dropped this 👑, king of mids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:24 PM
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Being a fuckboi doesn’t guarantee good sex, even other women will tell you that. Most of them get so much women that they don’t care to put the effort, which is the common complaint among women. Also the fact that they sleep with these guys tells you they aren’t actually super worried about diseases like many say, the rules are broken if he’s valuable enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 07:20 PM
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You’ve been drinking way too much of their kool aid lol Most times it does not lead to assault and all that. Usually the worst thing is a situationship where they got emotionally attached to some chad, all that other stuff is way less common and at least half the time they leave satisfied from the ego boost
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:20 PM
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This is the main attitude they have. It’s also kind of an ego thing and confidence boost to get dicked by guys out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:14 PM
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Yeah for chads lol it’s like an oxymoron Anytime she says the bar is in hell tells you she’s going for guys out of her league and accepting the bare minimum…no shit sis
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:12 PM
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Their ego gets stroked when chad thundercaulk bangs them. Hot/successful guy attention is in high demand by these ho’s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:08 PM
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The same but with completely different dating leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:02 PM
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Nah it’s not that variable, there are certain traits that are broadly sought after by the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:52 PM
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Market determinate, duh Why is gold expensive and stone cheap lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:50 PM
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Yeah and those High body count women accumulate more of that trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:54 PM
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Yes, but not by “a guy”, that makes it seem like most guys qualify. It’s high level dudes for casual. Chad hugs vagina not joe lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:04 PM
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Literally women say casual sex is only worth it if he’s super hot. Average dude isn’t worth because “they’re not getting anything out of it” If the hot guy plays them oh well but if he’s average they feel like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:17 PM
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They don’t care because they have 10 other options, all the girls want them. They’ll hit her up in a few months when he hits a dry spell
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:13 PM
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I’ve seen this happen repeatedly and so have many other dudes. The casual lays are always better looking, especially when the girl was younger. As they get older the casual partners might be less in the looks department but are super breaded
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:12 PM
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To be fair if the girl is below mid he’s likely not chad. I think you’re overestimating how hot the chicks on here are
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:10 PM
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There’s always shit going on and it’s more the right guy at the right time, “not a guy” That’s critical point, women will go home and finger blast if it’s not a chad, just because she’s open to casual doesn’t mean many guys can hit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:09 PM
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The fact that you’re the only woman in the comments that had that says a lot about the level of women here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:50 PM
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They also get the ick fast arbitrarily
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:25 PM
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“She should be respected and admired” lmao Men and women aren’t the same and never will be
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:39 PM
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The quality will be better in terms of looks and careers but the attractive single city girls are typically high body count and full of trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:43 PM
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A single mom has a basement level RMV, for just sex her level is still high relative to a man but there’s a reason why single moms have trouble finding long term mates
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:37 PM
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The context is important, if a guy is trying to bag he might feel threatened. If he’s not interested in any girls there than definitely not, more likely to try and befriend the dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:12 PM
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That’s laughably wrong, you can add a zero for more accuracy. I’m not even talking about that super slutty ones either. Filter for at least moderately attractive, not super religious and lives in a large American metropolis…it’s rarer to find a girl with 4 vs one with 40
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:57 PM
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Same here. It’s why the best a woman can get will never want to cuff her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:13 AM
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It’s not an exact science but relatively young like 25 with a guy who is a little older and has a good earning potential seems like the best bet. By the time she starts losing value he’s gaining. Only risk is he gets super breaded like Bezos style but unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:25 PM
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This is so false lol the biggest body count dudes are literally this type
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:12 PM
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At least half of the super wealthy young dudes I know “hide” or at least downplay the extent of their wealth. The 25 yo with a new euro whip has a shit net worth compared to the dude w a Camry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 01:14 AM
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I don’t get all these dudes begging for empathy lol who cares bro grow a pair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:34 AM
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Statistically not a lot of them and typically they meet young. Very few high body count, trauma riddled women in the type of healthy long term relationships that we want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:24 PM
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Do you think they could pull those types? Because that’s pure delusion, most women cannot bag that in the first place lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:20 PM
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That’s a gross misrepresentation of these relationships Usually we are talking 10-15 years not 30-50 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:15 PM
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Don’t get why fringe groups are so prevalent on Reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:45 PM
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The chicks dating those guys are mid themselves lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:44 PM
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The entire universe is based off Math, everything adds up. I never said boobs out means she will cheat, it does mean that she enjoys male attention. Dating and relationships have a lot of variables and there’s in nuance to these things but probabilities are apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:39 AM
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They cheat at the same rate yet don’t have anywhere near the same amount of testosterone and “hate”casual sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:33 AM
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The dudes jerking to porn are losers 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:39 PM
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How she acts and what she wears show a lot about her attention seeking behaviors. The world is math
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:38 PM
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Duh, everyone judges each other, it’s not a tit for tat it’s just natural
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:34 PM
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Literally have heard that on here “ ppl change “ lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:32 PM
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There is a big difference between that and what others consider when ppl say “friends”. Planning trips and going out with friends and those you meet for hobbies you share. There are levels to friendships, most men and women cannot be close friends w out attraction unless they were born/raised together
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:30 PM
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Purpose for what? Women are fuckable and have smv even when they’re old or fat, men fuck down Looks/beauty are very important but it doesn’t go from 100 to zero, she’s not invisible to her husband at 35 lol. The goal for women should be to provide enough relationship value while inhibiting the rate of their beauty decline, if all she brought was looks then yeah she’ll suffer when it fades. Education and career are not as important to men, your hiring managers cares about that stuff lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:24 AM
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Imagine being the poor saps that are “average” they’re so lucky to be blessed by someone kinda into them lol This advice is pointless because it goes against women’s biological prerogative which is hypergamy. The ones that take it usually just date super rich dudes who look meh and think theyre sacrificing most women learn OPs lesson when theyre older abd trauma riddled after the chad chasing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:17 AM
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Sexual market value doesn’t equal life purpose lol It’s like a nerdy engineer in FAANG that doesn’t get pussy, his smv is trash but his life isn’t. Dude can just buy ho’s if he has too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:07 AM
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Your whole premise is based off your experience with ex wives, this is filtering for a select group of ppl. Also, they’re old, the rules are different for oldies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:29 PM
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The chicks who slept with ugly dudes in college were always mids at best so makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:42 PM
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I was never interested in ugly ducklings so now it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:40 PM
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Checks notes, date younger chicks because they’re open to mid dudes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:27 PM
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This post makes me wonder where all the girls who didn’t care about looks were growing up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:24 PM
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They aren’t expected to care but societies double standards for men are the issue. Some men increase their value and they utilize that leverage the same way women do when they’re younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:26 PM
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Reddit has a large population of purple headed weirdos w alt opinions that non of us would interact with in the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:16 PM
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That’s a completely different matter though, the first point is whether women have high standards or not which is proven true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:21 AM
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All that goes out the window when it’s a chad, if the man is high value he doesn’t need to offer much. Hypergamy makes it so women take the chance on these guys hoping he works out, much like an addicted gambler. House always wins
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:18 AM
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Nah the mid women w good paying jobs still want men w good paying jobs. Mid men w good pay desire looks so they’re fine dating baddies w meh jobs. One of the big perks of being successful is better quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:18 PM
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You said it yourself that he gets girls easily and doesn’t worry about their pleasure So your first comment about how he has to be hot and blah blah blah is an oxymoron lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:34 PM
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It’s definitely not. You obviously haven’t met fboys w very few friends but a roster of women. The critical trait is the man’s value to women, whether he has friends or not isnt anywhere near as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:18 PM
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That’s exactly the point, his value is high so he bags chicks w or w out friends. The critical trait is the value he brings to women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:13 PM
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Damn they’re really pressed about this one The anger stems from a fear, the fear is that they can’t increase their level to fulfill their hypergamous need (chad)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:31 PM
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It’s simply an observation that easily explains why many women struggle with relationship. Dating out of their league has negative ramifications for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:28 PM
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Being fuckable and getting dicked isn’t a reward lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:26 PM
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Men aren’t hypergamous so no. Once she’s past the fuckable threshold she’s fair game
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:24 PM
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There’s a huge demographic of hot women that hate beards period. Makeup is always a plus while beards only sometimes are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:22 PM
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Makeup isn’t permanent, their looks level is in constant flux One moment her equal is the neckbeard incel and the next it’s 6’3 chad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:08 PM
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You’d be surprised. For sure most normal men don’t want virgins but for a lot of players, they prefer less experienced women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:32 AM
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Exactly. It’s not hate it’s more disdain or the feeling you get when dealing with a child who doesn’t know any better. Some women are so used to the pedestal that when they’re off it they think it’s due to hate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:29 AM
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I know these types of guys, it’s completely different story when it’s just the guys. They know how to play the game and eat it up, that’s why all her friends want to fuck him and a couple years later we find out he has indeed fucked her friends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:25 AM
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I see, the way you worded it made it seem like women are offering more which is obviously not true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:35 AM
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What the women offer has very little value to non broke men lol you can say men don’t offer much but women don’t either, financial/career success doesn’t turn men on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:29 AM
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90% of guys offering just sex are going to viewed with contempt by the woman. This idea that women are down for that is laughable, that’s something reserved for top tier dudes. Women logic is even if he doesn’t want a relationship it’s still validating because he’s super hot, successful, famous etc. An average guy just banging them is demoralizing since they don’t get anything in return plus they get insecure since he’s mid and doesn’t want them *exclusions apply, not talking about fatties and u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:00 AM
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Majority are it’s just not all the time. Throughout the life a western woman, she will definitely be very down for it in certain periods
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:15 AM
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Inflated self perception sprinkled with delulu
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:12 AM
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This is such cap. Casual sex is predominantly about the sexual appeal of the guy or some other sort of value women get ( drugs or clout/status) They are looking at guys who provide the most of those traits, these are a minority of men and it’s competitive to get selected
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:12 AM
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One of those is rarer then the other hence the higher standards for just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:54 PM
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It’s always a competition, it’s just a matter of settling for less or not. Everyone is definitely competing though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:26 AM
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The reality is more like 5 of them are seeing an ex still, another 5 in a situationship and not truly open to someone new (they’ll waste your time on dates), and the the rest are mid or have crazy high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:25 AM
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Those are lower tier men. My friends and I are very social, don’t play video games or watch much porn. It increases opportunities but it’s not the solution, the problem OP states still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:11 PM
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You don’t have to have low self esteem to agree w much of what OP says For example my chad friends and I know we are better than some of the girls we meet and when we try to hook them up with guy friends at their level, they think too highly of themselves. Seeing this play out repeatedly shows you how inflated women’s perceptions of themselves is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:35 PM
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Every woman isn’t, just most of the attractive ones who live in American cities are. It’s natural to be hypergamous for women but I don’t believe it’s natural to be promiscuous. Human beings evolved w out contraceptives so natural sluts would die pretty fast. Women do have a driver to slut it up for top men biologically though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:44 PM
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Traditional conservative women in the western world are usually busted, the reason they act that way is to pull a guy. It’s like the chick who cleans up after frat parties so they look wifey material The actual hot traditional types are covered by all kinds of dudes from fboys to incels
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:33 AM
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Husband material was a compliment from traditional women, in modern dating it’s a way of saying he looks mid but has other qualities to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:33 PM
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It’s important to note that this is absolutely not true for most women. This question has been asked many times and women say they’re rarely attracted to men day-day, the fact that it’s 70% for her means she’s a complete outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:43 PM
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I can attest. Western Europe is still way better than the states for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:12 PM
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Women date down? Never When they get older they’ll go for a guy w more wealth/status and take a little from the looks side but that’s not dating down. These guys have to jump through hoops because to her it’s dating down
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:54 PM
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Getting piped by dudes out of her league tends confuse these women, they conflate their sexual appeal w relationship appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:50 PM
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Your friends are far from normal or old. Most women in their 20s don’t think like them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:39 PM
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Chick logic is dressing fashionably and caking up the make up when they are 30 lbs overweight. It doesn’t look good, having a fit body and mid fashion > Only other women find it attractive because they’re focused on the fashion element and how she did her contouring lol it’s makeup on a pig
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:37 PM
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“6 ft guy cheated on me, next time I’m dating the 6’5 chad, that’ll fix it”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:34 PM
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Women don’t value hookups/casual sex, but they definitely really want it w chads at times
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:29 PM
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Non chad fuckboy is extremely rare or solely bagging uggos. It’s like an oxymoron lol Love bombing is also very ineffective if she has a moderate IQ and is hot, these chicks get the cringe, they’re attracted to men they can’t get more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:15 PM
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Ski bri (porn chick) talks about how her history negatively affected her relationship once things got serious. Men on here say it all the time but y’all don’t listen, dudes will act chill to hit but nobody actually wants to commit to high body count ho’s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:12 PM
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comedian talking about how you can get such a discount on a hot guy if he’s short
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:22 PM
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I can guarantee that’s a lie. I have a chad friend who I know has fucked fat women and models. Y’all truly don’t understand how men can fuck anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:25 PM
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All those risks are way overstated. If they were truly the issue, nice safe guys would be swimming in puss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:23 PM
2

I’ve lived in both and can attest. The SF area is one of the worst places in the first world for men to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:11 PM
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Exactly. Dating as a man in NYC is way easier than places like SF or Seattle. The quality of girls is better too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:08 PM
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Societies narrative that women are the forever victim needs to end. The dating market is a great example of some of privilege they have but we have to incessantly hear about the perceived disadvantages of being a woman. Like yeah, in Saudi Arabia it’s sucks to be a woman but if you live in America stfu lol It’s not really a government intervention it’s just a reality check
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:13 AM
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That’s only the British ones
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:00 AM
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Nah chicks are just more fluid. I think it’s biological, it’s how they survived marriage w older rich ugly dudes and learned to love them Men aren’t fluid like that, banging a dude is like eating poop lol absolutely disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:44 AM
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Culturally it’s way closer to us than Europe. Anyone whose been to all 3 can easily attest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:50 AM
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I’ve traveled a lot and know many ppl who moved between the two continents because of work. By far everyone thinks dating in Europe is better. Hookups for European guys is better in the US. Hookups and relationships for US guys is better in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:48 AM
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Too late, I think just like him and had a way easier time dating in Europe than the USA. Girls are way hotter too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:46 AM
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Smart hot women know this, they cash in at their peak. The problem some women have is that they think their career success and educational achievements are much bigger pluses that offset the negatives that come with aging. I’m not talking about just physical, mental trauma and being more stuck in your ways is negative too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:42 PM
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That was brilliant Also to add, the previous hurts are often not even personally felt, the happened to women generations before them and are taken out of context. For example, a European woman in 1913 had less rights then her fellow man but who had a greater probability of death or injury then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:24 PM
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That’s a very rare scenario tho lol Mostly it’s a woman who has a child w not a good hot guy and then the next partner is a mid dude w a stable career
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:56 PM
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The standards depend entirely on their lvl. Most men have low SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:52 PM
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They’re not sexually attracted to most men period. Older men w success, status and/or money get laid more than the young average dude. Obviously young hot dudes are getting the best deal but that’s a small percentage of men and it’s usually unattainable to achieve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:46 PM
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Paired w delusion and a lack of accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:39 PM
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Beta buxxing is only negative now that alpha fucks became a thing. One can literally quantify love now and it’s not worth it lol alpha is winning
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:05 PM
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Nah that’s not true, I care very much about the well being of mids as a collective, individually I don’t particularly care. But for the grand scheme I want them to have successful lives but the current dating behaviors prevent that. Individuals is different since they’ll think you like them if you’re nice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:02 PM
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I’ve met similar women w trust issues after they’ve been cheated on, you know what happens after? Many times they solidify the belief that all men are shit after that experience. Even when they meet a perfectly good dude, all men are trash in their eyes anyway so they leave him to bang some other guy (usually hotter and forthright about being a fboy)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:59 PM
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Not mine. My chad friends fuck across the board, model lvl to literal fatties. For sure they’re not as common but hookups are usually down a couple leagues My girl friends are literally the opposite, their long term partners are definitely less attractive than they’re hookups and while some banged busted dudes it was very rare, like one time at a high-school party or something. Basically never happens post college
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:11 AM
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Nah quantity is a big factor. Men don’t want just the 9/10, they want her 7/10 friend after
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:20 PM
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I’ve met both types and the ones that have zero sex are way less common than the occasional chad fuckers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:06 PM
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There are women who say things like this while they occasionally sport fuck chads lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:42 PM
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Unfortunately her perspective is not unique among women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:50 AM
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Billy Eilesh provides a great example of modern women’s delusion she says men of all body types have no problems because women are “nice” You see this same rhetoric on this sub despite countless evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:46 AM
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It is news because a lot of ppl don’t have the critical thinking to see this. Also it never happened at this frequency
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:04 AM
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The usual suspects
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:21 PM
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Yeah w busted chicks. If he fucks down that’s still hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:46 PM
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OP has a great idea but yeah women will stop using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:39 PM
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They do it’s just that usually those girls are mid. The reason they’re “good” is because it’s their way of bagging a guy. Similar to nice guys who are mid looking but nice, they’re trying to compensate as a way to bag a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:19 PM
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Nah even when the chicks who don’t typically do casual occasionally dip their toes in it, they go for the same guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:55 AM
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Mids approach occasionally but it’s more that they definitely give clear indications of interest. It’s a big reason why you know women are capping about there not being “leagues”, fatties and mids are obvious as hell that they’re interested and want you to approach them. If you are a 7 and solely go for 5’s you’re bagging efficiency skyrockets, go after other 7’s? It plummets
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:22 AM
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Making 100K in NYC, LA, SF, Seattle etc is much much worse than making 75k in Minneapolis. 100k is on the very low end of all of my friends Y’all don’t live in big cities and it shows, 100k is the equivalent of 70k in most of US I’m not saying this to flex just some perspective cause y’all are out of touch lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:46 PM
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Lol you literally proved my point tx
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:01 AM
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The fact that you think otherwise says a lot about your social life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:58 AM
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A woman in a major city easily has 20-30 bodies. Less than that is rare tbh I’m only talking about at least average attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:57 AM
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If you live in a big city and believe that, sorry you are in a bubble and likely don’t have many friends
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:55 AM
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“Just don’t think about” lol da fuq
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:53 AM
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Sometimes words make us uncomfy Historically most men weren’t free to choose, most were peasants. You’re thinking about the top guys who were in the upper quartile, Apex fallacy strikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:52 AM
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Sounds like you’ve never been to college or highschool. Word of mouth travels. In my experience it’s locker room talk that someone hears outside and then it spreads, time passes and at the next party ho’s want to give it a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:47 AM
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Hypergamy dictates that women will always want out of their league. There are no women “desirable as yourself” because men are inherently less desirable in the sex market. For relationships it’s more equal in terms of looks but many women are good long term partners when you consider other factors
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:35 AM
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Gotta love the mental gymnastics here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:28 AM
0

that’s not a relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:23 AM
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Dating apps are a small percentage of guys piping most of the women Anyone with friends knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:21 AM
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I’m a bio man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:10 AM
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Duh they’re not better cause women aren’t fking them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:15 AM
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Obvi
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:14 AM
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100% guarantee she’s going after chad finance bro’s who dgaf about her job or income. I lived in the city and come across this type, hypergamous with no understanding of the difference between what men value and what women value
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:15 PM
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Majority of women and a minority of men do it so it makes sense to be jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:31 PM
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It’s not just that they generalize, they go after the same few dudes so it’s their reality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:31 PM
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Of the happy women in long term relationships, it’s clearly not a 50/50 split between those with a lot of experience and those w less. More of them had less. For unhappy women, it’s very clear that the majority had a lot of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:29 PM
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Nah horny chicks in stable relationships exist, they don’t need to sluts to enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:03 PM
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If you’re around avg to above average the women in your relationship market are sleeping around w chads
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:01 PM
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Obvi Temp use only
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:59 PM
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This is such cap lol The women willing to casually fuck are always significantly less attractive than the ones we are in relationships with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:42 PM
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Lmao there is an entire population of women who like sex only in the context of a relationship but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:53 PM
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A small minority of men*
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:51 PM
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Average is skewed up by a few very high count men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:49 PM
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You have it reversed, they’re not marriage material because of their behavior. Chicken or the egg sort of ting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:49 PM
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Only if it’s not within a relationship. Nothing dirty about a chick banging her partner lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:48 PM
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The men having a easy time getting casual sex are a minority and have all kinds of women constantly throwing themselves at him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:47 PM
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I identify as one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:52 AM
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Or you ask out women all the time and through this experience learn about what they value
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:51 PM
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Women’s standards are unrealistic because the type of guy they want is at best only interested in them temporarily. If she gets wifed it’s different, she’s in his league Most women place a lot of value on a few traits like height, status, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:50 PM
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Exactly, it’s way more efficient to up your value. If you can reach a certain level, like an 8, they’ll make it very obvious and help you hit on them. Below that is an obstacle course because to them you have to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:54 PM
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And the men of higher value will more often use you for sex w out considering a relationship. This is ok for women though since he’s out of their league, lesser men doing this is a huge insult to their ego tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:04 PM
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Nah they can be very into guys w little experience if he’s hot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:59 AM
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Think hard about it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:53 PM
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No shit, it’s like a billionaire bragging about how rich they’re Other ppl do the talking duh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:00 AM
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The women on here nerdy tendencies and small social circles so their realities are different
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:53 AM
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You’ve never been to college? Once word got out about the dude w the horsecaulk chicks start acting different and want to try it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:52 AM
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Nah even the ones who don’t covert it anymore all at one point did Most want to at least try it and fantasize about it even if the actual thing makes the physically uncomfortable This makes it so the casual sex market always has more size queens
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:49 AM
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Yeah exactly, the ones you listed aren’t desirable anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:00 AM
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Nah there are girls who love it but only on the context of a serious relationship. Not saying it’s supper common but definitely exists. These are the ones we all want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:57 AM
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Yeah I’m as redpilled as they come and coke is definitely the easiest avenue to pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:11 PM
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It’s amazing that this went over OPs head. Most sluts are actually super hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:29 AM
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Improve your value and they will come. Focus on your low hanging fruit and best ROI(physical appearance, money, social status) Gym, jaw exercises, updated wardrobe, increase income, befriend ppl w a large network and build social capital. Some of these take much more resources w less return so invest wisely. Anything else women say is bs, it’s all about the value you provide, women are looking for a good deal so make it seem that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:02 PM
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They’re a fish in a barrel if you are attractive. You can have shit social skills or personality but still bag
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:58 PM
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I’m a guy with a lot of guy friends, most of the serial cheaters I know are above average if not very physically attractive. Very high correlation that can’t be ignored imo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:26 AM
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I’m a great example of this because I watch zero porn and I definitely don’t have lower physical standards lol This is only a thing because some chicks had a loser bf who watched a lot of porn (they’re also likely a loser cause that’s the type guy they can get but lack that awareness )
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:30 PM
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You can have all that and still only bag mids is the problem Agree that ppl should do it for themself anyways but it’s the “solution”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:58 PM
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In my circle it’s all bros helping bros. There’s for sure competition but also support and advice, none of that contradicts anything redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:56 PM
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Usually the advice is given with fat ppl in mind Yes, if you’re starting from the floor there’s a lot of low hanging fruit for improvement. For ppl like you and I, it’s much harder to increase our value and the returns on our efforts are way less. Don’t expect ppl on this sub to understand that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:54 PM
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Height affects a greater number of men but yeah if all dudes were losing it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:42 PM
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It’s easier than in our 20’s but not “easy” in the general sense. This isn’t saying much since early 20s is full of chad chasing women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:40 PM
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Nah I live in a major city with very few fatties. The biggest detrimental factor if you were to pick one would be height. After that probably baldness. Fat is an issue in the rest of America but not really the big cities
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:52 PM
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We are in entire different demographics so we are talking past each other. Most guys in my groups are active, fit make 6 figures and have a basic level of style. This is common in big major cities. Women who go for the guys you speak of aren’t attractive, even average chicks here have way better options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:49 PM
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I do it too and I’m a guy The major difference? The population of who they consider unattractive is way bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:16 PM
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Y’all want to think that way but definitely above avg in America and I doubt I’m the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:20 PM
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In real life it’s definitely better/easier but women severely overestimate how much. The other common problem is that, yes, a man is more likely to pull an attractive woman irl vs on apps but most of the time these women are below average in others ways that you can’t know until you date her. In the end women always want the better deal due to hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:18 PM
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It’s hilarious that she’s so confident it’s true even though she’s a chick lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:14 PM
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This is all cap lol You can have an active social life, be active/fit, extroverted and hit on women but still struggle with dating. This isn’t rare at all, due to hypergamy women want higher value then themselves so it’s a naturally lopsided proposition
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:57 PM
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The world is finding out why throughout history there was always a restriction on women’s sexual activities. It’s hypergamy, sexual liberation just means more sex for chads, it’s not an equitable market and never will be
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:46 PM
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First sentence is facts. There’s always a disparity between the women who will fuck u though so unless he can level up to above average, he’s only going to bang below average
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:28 AM
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They all are. As a guy all I have to do is hit on 5’s and I’m almost guaranteed success
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:39 PM
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It’s not one person who thinks this, most young men experience this and many young women overrate themselves since they conflate smv and rmv
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:37 PM
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Very low in major coastal cities. This just shows you how different our perspectives can be I was arguing with a self named gym guy on here and he had a picture of his dad bod in his profile lol same w all the busted chicks thinking they’re hot cause they live in bumfuck, in New York or LA they’re below avg
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:25 AM
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Biologically women only desire the top few men that can get more/better women due to hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:19 AM
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There are more female sluts than male and almost ever chick that at least dabbles in casual fucks the chads
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:15 PM
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The vast majority of western women participate in casual sex, it’s the minority that never have. When you adjust for looks it’s super rare to find even a moderately attractive woman who hasn’t, most chicks are honest about this too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:13 PM
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Made me think, we should tell the hungry kids in Africa to just eat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:47 PM
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Majority of women do this and a minority of men. That means > 50% of the population. It also means if you get a relationship with a woman, she’s likely done both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:35 PM
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Cart far before horse. Women think way too far ahead because they don’t have an opportunity problem like men do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:49 AM
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Exactly. Men would be very insecure too if they were only attracted to the top percent of women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:00 AM
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Yes, if she’s only interested in the top percent it’s very difficult. The problem is entitlement from women and a sense of delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:58 AM
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Just like every perspective women spout on here, it’s only really true in the context of an already established relationship. Yes they turn down sex Casually sex? Chad fucking is an epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:56 AM
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Yeah single men are focused on single women, the cuffed ones are irrelevant. When the younger women leaves her bf she typically has a hoe phase
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:29 PM
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I don’t really blame young black pill dudes, it’s actually very true for their age. Women are sport fucking chads through most of their early 20s (if they’re attractive enough) even women on here admit as much
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:59 PM
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Sounds like you weren’t a great person. The huge fallacy is assuming everyone on here is like y’all lol I have a bunch of friends and ppl that like me, ppl who actively try to hang out with me from both sex’s. I’m very fit sociable, good job etc. The idea that every dude on here is fat and living in a basement is total nonsense. Pulling mid girls is not a flex, much of what rp dudes say on here is very true, this sub tends to forget average and above avg dudes who understand the situation and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:57 PM
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They’re literally all actor chads and some random Indian male famous ppl (probably from women in India)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:01 PM
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To get out of accountability. Ppl don’t like being held responsible for their decisions, particularly women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:10 PM
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Become friends with chads and women who are avg/moderately attractive then just observe lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:27 AM
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Nah she’s just a modern western woman. It’s a competition for whose the biggest victim everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:39 PM
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It’s a woman thing but also a recent cultural phenomenon. Everyone is a poor victim boo hoo such tremendously terrible things have happened to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:38 PM
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Yes, men are the pursuers and have higher testosterone. Listen to women when they say how risky casual sex is for them Men have low standards because of biology, women’s standards for sex were changed once contraceptives were baked in, chad fucking could commence with impunity. Men would have higher standards for sex if they could, you see this with top tier guys they’re super picky and critical over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:34 AM
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Men don’t know until they’re with her for a period of time (even then they might) Whether her sexual interests matured or she has different standards both suck, one more than the other. Men’s preference is for someone who treats them consistently. A slut who hooks up with them early is at least being real
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:23 AM
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Under this dichotomy women have created, being the relationship guys is an L
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:18 AM
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Cool story but being a hookup guy is way more difficult and a much better deal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:16 AM
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You interacted w losers every day that’s not the entire population of men. Dudes who go to strip clubs and pay for OF are literally the bottom of the barrel sewer 🐀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:14 AM
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Madonna whore doesn’t exist. Most guys want a Madonna and make her there whore, they aren’t keeping her in a China cabinet lol The actual whores getting piped are just easy lays, we don’t love these whores. Literally any woman can be one if she wanted to. Meanwhile being the guy she fucks is way harder than the relationship guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:12 AM
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You got it reversed, relationship type guy expects the woman to hold out for everyone including chad (that’s been his experience) then he finds out she does fuck fast, but only chads
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:09 AM
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Husband and relationship material can be good depending on who it’s coming from. A former slut? Not good. A woman who only has long term monogamous relationships? Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:59 PM
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Notice how none of what you said touched upon his looks. How well he cooks means nothing if she doesn’t find him physically attractive. Relationship material guys often have positive qualities but don’t meet the threshold for physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:57 PM
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You had us until the last paragraph Unless the woman is busted, the not bf material hookup guy is a fuckboy who is definitely not lacking in looks. Only busted chicks are hooking up with ugly dudes lol For average and above women, the hookup guy has looks but not the other traits needed for a long term relationship. Even then women will enter relationships with him if he’s attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:52 PM
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Everyone knows that most men can’t get casual sex easily, they have to be exceptional or have no standards and bang fatties/prostitutes lol Women on this sub say it all the time, hookups are only worth it if he’s super hot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:12 PM
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Biologically, women are predisposed to an unsatisfactory relationship. There simply are not enough of what they want (longterm commitments from men they’re attracted to) Where the calculation changes is if she truly doesn’t want kids and the length of the relationship can be shorter. She can definitely get a relationship for a year or so w the man she desires
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:17 PM
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This is just apex fallacy, the majority of men simply don’t have the options to do all that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:13 PM
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uh did you think cave men had consensual sex? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:11 PM
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This is true. The problem is, they see super attractive women have a hoe phases and still get cuffed so they want to do the same but they’re mid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:08 PM
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Bingo. For men the dating market is largely bifurcated into haves and have nots, completely different than for women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:24 AM
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They have to if they want to hold chads interest. The dudes they’re into have countless other options just as hot as him, they put out to be competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:23 AM
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I like the chase but it’s more so the former. If you can pull her you can pull better, which is often proven true. Women don’t ever fuck down so their interest is a significant indicator of your value to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:37 PM
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It’s low key true but it’s more that she shows interest when 3 others also do. As a guy it’s always feast or famine and when one is into you there’s always more. It’s so consistent that one strategy is to hit up multiple other chicks around the time you’re interested in one particular girl. Pussy smells pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:35 PM
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Speak for yourself. Most of the guys I know are all doing better in their late 20s early 30s, the dudes who peaked very early almost all turned out to be losers after college (if they even went) But OP is right that college is the best time, the problem is that women are super fixated on looks then so it’s a lot of chad fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:52 PM
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The rules are different when it’s chad though. If she treated everyone that way it wouldn’t be a biggie
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:46 PM
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99% and we would want nothing to do with the majority of them too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:44 PM
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Modern young women are not tempted to enter any kind of relationship until they’re enticed by something. Usually this is in the form of a good looking guy that is only interested in them for some temporary fun. It’s definitely not a minority in a major American city
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:50 PM
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It’s also due to hypergamy, they’re always in competition for a guy out of their league so naturally they’ll be insecure. Some also love male attention, they post thirst traps and act a certain way to get it, it’s validating. OP may not be that type but it’s super common, almost every girl has a part of her that wants that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:24 PM
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They haven’t learned shit lol my chad friends are running through them and all their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:11 PM
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The first paragraph is cap but then you go on and spit facts. Women aren’t sleeping around with average dudes, they need to offer more. Chad gets it though because he’s attractive so it’s more worth it. You basically said this and many women operate with this understanding. There’s nothing noble about chad fucking for fun and then prioritizing other qualities for a long term partner lol a minority of men want to cuff that if they know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:06 PM
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The problem is less that they’re American and more that they don’t realize how bad most young guys have it in their early 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:59 PM
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OP’s entire post is based off apex fallacy. Complete blind spot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:16 PM
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“Doesn’t have high standards” Aka has low standards. If a dude doesn’t have low standards, he doesn’t get hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:47 PM
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That’s why the same 1/5 guy in every friend group consistently pulls all the girls 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:47 PM
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Nah attractive and unpleasant still gets laid and even long term relationships w low self esteem high standards women of which they’re many
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:45 PM
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If she can’t fit on a canoe she’s not average lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:02 AM
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Typically no but when I have seen it and it’s always been an average dude with an overweight woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:01 AM
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If that’s above average y’all need to travel more lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:11 PM
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2 things, improving is fun, trying to be the best version of yourself is an awesome endeavor. Secondly you’re assuming all these men are improving just to get the chance to cuff these basic ass chicks. Many times it’s just to smash, most of these women are uncuffable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:45 AM
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One could say these women have quite the gambling addiction then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:41 AM
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The exact same situation. Notice how so many of us observe the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:38 AM
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Yeah they use it briefly and get piped by all the chads then take a break before they’re back again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:34 AM
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Notice how that statement is different than your CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:11 PM
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It for sure helps but basically you get introduced and set up w mutual friends then that’s it. Most times these girls are just not compatible or unattractive or they’re way out of you league. Sometimes they’re ho’s and you know all the stories from friends already. The best thing it does is actually social proof for cold approaching strangers but yeah the dating market is still skewed heavily against the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:39 PM
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This is so cap lol They all want the hot one in the group, what actually happens is you have to take the grenade and drastic the fatty so your chad friend can hit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:35 PM
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I actually have the same experience, irl women seem to know that men have it tougher. I think this sub has a higher percentage of women from subgroups who inherently struggle so they don’t notice the advantages women have
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:37 AM
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Yeah meanwhile the chicks their same age (19-25) are grizzly veterans of the game lol if that doesn’t tell you a lot nothing will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:33 AM
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You’ll get downvoted by all the thots but I definitely agree and knowing high body count men, you’re making the smart choice. France has the highest rate of infidelity so not sure if you guys are the norm tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:00 AM
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Doesn’t mean they haven’t approached before, it’s called learned behavior. In a group of 5 friends, they all shoot their shot but only 1 gets positive feedback with any consistency, the rest will drop out. It’s a negative feedback loop
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:04 PM
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Cap. So few men care compared to women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:47 PM
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This is common in America too, I did the same with my ex partner calling her my dirty little slut. The key detail is she’s a slut with you not a bunch of other dudes. Women that express themselves that way with a bunch of dudes are low inhibition and very different from women who do it just with a safe long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:28 PM
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This dude showcases a major difference between men and women. women are attracted to status/clout, they change their behavior based on their perception of how other ppl are you This doesn’t exist the other way around, means nothing to men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:23 PM
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If the delta isn’t huge, they don’t necessarily know. 6-7’s get run thru the most because of this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:44 AM
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More and more women don’t behave this way tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:42 AM
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It’s pretty wild that women still don’t understand that RMV and SMV are different
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:41 AM
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Nah the more you swipe left on the super hot ones the better your algo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:39 AM
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That doesn’t explain Western Europe, like he said, the lack of obese balances the dating market so average women aren’t on a pedestal. Europe > America for dating, for making money it’s the reverse
/r/seduction20/09/23 05:33 AM
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This is so true. The crazy part is how the mids in America can treat you like dirt but dimes in Europe think you’re amazing
/r/seduction20/09/23 05:28 AM
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This whole issue only arrives after you bag, mens biggest problem is getting the opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:40 AM
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It’s more so that y’all are putting the cart before the horse. The emotional needs are very important but for men, it’s tied to sex so it’s not separate things like it is for women. Men can’t emotionally connect with their partner without sex. Sexual satisfaction for both is paramount since it’s part of his emotional attachment. If the sex is mid, the relationship has no legs, it’s more of familial connection. This is what happens to a lot of women btw, they love their husbands but it turns into…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:38 AM
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Hypergamy is a cynical strategy but such is life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:32 AM
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This is cap. I have mostly finance and tech friends, the dudes with the highest title and company clout definitely have more status.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:22 AM
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The difference between an attractive girl on the street and a supermodel attractive one is negligible, they both make our dicks grow lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:55 PM
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If she’s average and w a chad it’s even way more work plus all the trauma and insecurities. Many will still take that deal because of the biological drivers in them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:53 PM
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Fair point but the bar to be attractive isn’t that high when young. Ppl get fat and ugly as they age tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:26 PM
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The percentage of attractive single women who aren’t having sex at least every few months is very very small. I have girl friends that think 1-2 months is a dry spell, for guys it’s like 1 year lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:23 PM
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This is how a lot of women view it and then boom, dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:25 AM
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This gets misconstrued quite often here, not sure if this can be pinned but it would help
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:23 AM
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You’re not miserable if your focused on improving and just riding the wave w these 304’s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:21 PM
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This is true but it’s also a lie that it’s something all women care so much about. I had an ex that thought the idea of a gangbang was hot but would never actually go through with it, it was something she didn’t care so deeply about. The idea that all women need to explore their sexuality is woke feminist bs meant to encourage casual sex and promiscuity in the guise of empowerment Experiences like places to go, that’s something way more women care about. If I wouldn’t take her at trips to cool p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:18 PM
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So the risk isn’t that big if it’s so easily mitigated, it’s not this big scary thing for her. Men pursue crazy chicks for sex just like other chicks, the fact that she’s BPD usually means it will be easier to bag her than a girl who had a healthy upbringing. Daddy issues are another green flag for hookups. It’s about ease of entry, she might be out of our league but if she’s got daddy issues the chance of fucking is higher. Mens difficulty is always about opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:16 PM
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It’s a much better source than here where the ratio of sex workers, poly, blue haired and ultra progressive far outweigh what’s irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:10 PM
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No it’s because you have 10 times more free testosterone in our bloodstream at any given time. A lot of human behavior is determined by our hormones, women of all ppl should know this. If you pumped women up w the same lvls of T they would start hooking up w average guys immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:04 PM
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Makes sense but then you would expect women not to partake. Modern women do have casual sex it’s just with dudes above their lvl, this means the risks are negligible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 07:01 PM
2

Imagine not knowing what a homosexual is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:54 PM
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All those risks are negligible if he’s high value enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:51 PM
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Men with options do behave that way but most men don’t have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:44 PM
2

Nope, just ppl I actually know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:29 PM
1

Nah dating an alpha widow is a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:30 AM
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Dude she’s likely obese wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:25 AM
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I can see who likes me and at least half are overweight while I’m clearly not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:25 AM
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Yes, assuming I’m attracted to her the ick I often get is when she’s kinda dumb/slow. I’m not crazy witty but if when I can see the gears struggle to turn at my jokes it’s a huge turn off, even when shes hot. The next one is promiscuous chicks, usually you don’t know but if she tells me past stories it can be a huge turn off. Same with guys she follows/likes on Instagram, I’m not into openly slutty chicks even when they’re hot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:20 AM
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No guy values being wanted for resources, society places that on us it’s not desired from our partner as well. What most ppl want is someone who desire them for who they are and part of that is physical It’s also not an advantage since the bar for women to be attractive is way lower than for men. Just not being fat means she’s avg in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:28 PM
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Definitely not, just like all the low lvl men aren’t uncaring, there’s a mix of both in each group. The important part is not how all top tier men are caring and it they still bag so the important variable is their value not their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:51 PM
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It really depends on what population, certain groups of women have it very difficult and I think you’d find many men empathizing with them. Nobody knows who they’re talking to on here and they’re usually under the assumption that it’s someone similar to the women they’re repeatedly rejected by, not the African American single mom on welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:43 PM
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The view is not so clear if top tier men are getting it despite not caring. It shows that the trait is not as important to many women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:38 PM
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Those top men still see the women as sex objects. Everything you said I agree with except you seem to correlate the way men are as a reason/excuse for women’s hypergamy. That’s just false, they want to tier men because they’re hot, it’s not about other men having poor behavior This is a way women try to get rid of accountability, it’s in their nature to not be held responsible for their decisions. Probably something biological due to fear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:37 PM
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This post is a great example of how poor women’s advice is lol This would scare most women off. The ones that like to talk about this stuff are the whole progressive types that aren’t even attractive usually
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:54 PM
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I guess if you think every guy on her is a super desperate dude but that wouldn’t be accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:34 PM
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It’s true but those guys can’t pull that lvl ever. Dudes who can pull an Amber heard and cheating on her w other hotties
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:26 PM
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To Fuck but if he can pull that lvl he’s not putting up w all that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:25 PM
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This is really only true for low experience desperate dudes. If a guy can bag Megan Fox, he can some hottie to fill her place
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:23 PM
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OP doesn’t understand the binary nature of it, not the fact that attractive gets you laid. Basically he’s never heard of 80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:12 PM
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It’s all men and women not just single lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:25 AM
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If you’re goals are above average and you aren’t achieving them…then you may just be average, not necessarily below
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:19 AM
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You mean she’s fat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:16 AM
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Not filtered for single ppl and who cares about oldies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:14 AM
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Nah I disagree and I’m in great shape. A bunch of my gym friends would also agree with me, it helps but if your body is just not fat, status has more of an ROI
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:13 AM
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At one given time. The majority of young women use it they just aren’t on it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:08 AM
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Change it for the worst. Best bodies are a combination of genetics and working out, don’t let the BBL’s and fake tits let you think otherwise Faces can change from the nose I’ll give you that but when they start doing fillers regularly they look busted af.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:52 AM
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This might have to do w your level. Literally none of the guys in my friend group would go on a date w cargo pants, we get opinions on outfits before going out from the chicks in our friend group lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:47 AM
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Nah mids are mid, women are not inherently better looking than men. Dressing better, using makeup, fillers, implants etc doesn’t change her value. At best it’s a temporary increase of her smv, you sleep w her for a couple weeks and you’ll know her real level. All that shit also doesn’t really work, most dudes w some experience can tell what she really looks like. You bag like 5 of these types then you can discern the eye bags under the makeup, cellulite and all the rest. The dudes falling over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:45 AM
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Yeah it’s not that complicated. It’s more of “look at all these exceptions!” so we can just ignore general trends. One example is a height, everyone w a brain knows that most women simp for tall boys but on here it’s somehow a debate because Debbie found a short guy hot once lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:16 PM
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Apex fallacy It’s interesting that when women discuss men they’re always thinking of the top tier
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:48 PM
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Imagine thinking decisions before the age of 25 don’t matter because the brain isn’t developed lol ludicrous It’s just an excuse because accountability for their past is uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:47 PM
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This would change the game if true 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:43 PM
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One is a prerequisite hence why it’s more important. Any argument otherwise is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:18 PM
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OP said the women have to be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:14 AM
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Yeah I have girl friends like yours, they’re into totally different types. I also have different guy groups of friends and the dynamic is true for all of them, guys on this sub can attest. While women have different types, they pick the best out of those types which ends up being the same few dudes. They aren’t into average dudes, that’s not attractive to them. Hence it’s always the same 1/4 guy in our group that always gets picked. If you put all of those successful guys in their own group then…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:40 AM
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Stop the cap lol Young men can literally see who women are choosing to bang, what they say means nothing, actions > No doubt for you it might be true that physical attraction is unimportant but for the vast majority of young American women, it’s very important
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:29 AM
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Nah the avg young man can’t prioritize shit cause he’s not pulling, the same age chick could be fat and get dicked. Men have inherently lower sexual value in the market
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:25 AM
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Nah my solution is to get better but don’t take a bad deal aka don’t cuff these ho’s What I suggest is to get as fit as possible, dress better increase social clout and make more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:23 AM
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It’s called settling. Not every relationship is great, in fact it’s better off being single. You only need to know enough couples to learn this fact
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:25 AM
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You contradicted yourself a couple times but I’m sure you’re unaware
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:22 AM
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It’s not worth compensating for if the other guy got it for less. That’s simply a bad deal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:21 AM
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To quantify it, being above one standard dev from the mean in physical appearance has far more impact than any other trait like “success” does. Of course being 3 STDs from the mean in some other trait may help more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:19 AM
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Younger women prioritize looks far more but no one said status and success doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:16 AM
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What’s attractive for men is a larger population of the opposite sex than what’s attractive for women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:14 AM
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Every group of guy friends has the one guy that gets signals from a bunch of different girls. This is cappy “everyone has a match” rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:12 AM
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For my sluttier girl friends, the ones that weren’t picky as hell still ended up mostly banging chads because when they were looking for casual, those guys are consistently available to them. The times where mid dudes might get lucky is like if she’s on vacation looking for D and there are somehow a shortage of dudes that week so she’ll just bang a reg. This is usually not the case tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:56 PM
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This should be the top comment. Women gloss over this fact but it’s pretty key, the casual dudes are almost always objectively more valuable than who they get cuffed with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:53 PM
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Makes sense. The problem they have is that what constitutes as an attractive women incorporates a far larger proportion of the population than that of the guy they want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:32 PM
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This idea that sluts aren’t picky is silly. Most modern day sluts pretty much exclusively fuck different iterations of chad, there’s nothing about equality when it comes to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:08 AM
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This is why every friend group of guys experiences the same thing, 1/5 of them is consistently chosen over the others. Sure he may not be their ideal type but he’s always just hot enough apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:38 AM
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I would feel insecure to if I was constantly competing for the same few men. The reality is attractive men are rarer and run through many women who are super deluded to think cause he smashed it’s a mark of their level. Men learn very early how women view them since we are the pursuers. We can optimize our success rate w women by going for less attractive ones, their level is inversely correlated w our chance of success. Chasing after just the hot ones often gets you nothing at best and insulted…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:36 AM
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OP really should ask how it correlates to the woman’s level. Busted chicks are going to be way less picky about height but really he should ask what women with options prefer? It’s tall bros
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:30 AM
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He’s known to be a troll, it’s his way of getting attention (follow up on his part before macgregor cvs khabib) He tied khabib trainer to some terrorist group and came after his religion. The dude had a lot of death threats and had to back off. This is literally nothing compared to all that but this behavior is very standard for him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:14 AM
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For a worthwhile reward. Jumping for no reason is pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:44 AM
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This dude literally came after religion before, I don’t think many women are aware of his history. Most ppl not well versed in ufc are fairly ignorant about him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:41 AM
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OP obviously hasn’t followed Dillon Danis very much, anyone who saw the macgregor khabib fiasco thinks this is kindergarten
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:39 AM
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It’s not really jealousy but more so resentment. At least that’s how I felt which led to a breakup. To mitigate this men either need a low experience woman or to get a lot of experience themselves, both of these strategies pose difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:19 PM
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Helps optimize dating so it’s beneficial. Specifically this sub has some nuggets on women’s thought process which helps me emphasize and achieve my goals
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:06 PM
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He’s understood so much yet he can’t bag at 38. Whatever he’s doing guys need to do the opposite lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:04 PM
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great vid showing how delusional women are nowadays Literally lists traits to be a high value woman and then for women she says all of them are inherently high value. It just shows the women are wonderful effect and how blatantly sexist our society has become. This also hurts women btw, men who believe this crap have their whole world turned upside down when they realize women behave just as poorly as men do. This leads to far greater resentment in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:55 PM
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Margot Robbie is fine but Emma stone w out makeup is like a 6, just look at her pic. She was hotter when she was younger for sure but never like a 9-10.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:51 PM
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Old dudes are super delusional about dating, they think they’d all kill it online if they were young lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:48 PM
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How wholesome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:39 PM
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OP basically saying “Talking about reality hurts my feelings” lol It’s not supposed to “work” it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:41 AM
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This is true but also it’s just like a preference that most men have, regardless of their experience. Most ppl don’t get a partner that meets all there preferences and sometimes that’s the case with a ho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:44 PM
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Nobody cares about old ppls dating tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:18 PM
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They have a shit load of insecurities while also being delusional about what they bring/their value. This is most women who are at least kinda attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:15 PM
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Tolerating bad relationships Translation: accepting poor behavior from chad because she prioritizes his looks, status and game over his treatment of her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:12 PM
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Nah it’s due to the way they act with men who are at their lvl but they deem lower. They’re repulsed by these dudes while they themselves are on the same boat lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:08 PM
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And even mid women have a plethora of options
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:52 PM
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She’s giving interest if she’s following you. I’ve been in the exact same situations, it’s all dependent on the other guys at the house party, if there’s a chad that isn’t cuffed she’s following him not you So if your the best option for her you will pull but most average guys are not going to be that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:22 PM
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Getting contacts often leads to soft rejections. I’m like your friend and love conversing, this is how it mostly goes. Meanwhile the chad friend will bag and smash at least half of themm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:18 PM
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To an extent. The problem is that men and women place different valuations on themselves Men who improve after rejections aren’t going for the same chicks anymore, they want better. Women just have an inflated valuation of themselves since many men want to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:15 PM
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Off the market early
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:11 AM
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Trying to tie women’s sexual pleasure to body count High body count women aren’t attractive, there are women with low body counts that get a lot of pleasure. If you are talking about virgins, sure, but having a high count isn’t this big positive thing although many sluts wish it was lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:39 PM
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The chair scoot rubbing that women do to get off can literally break you dick, it’s very painful for a lot of men. The bar to reach is orgasms is far higher for women. Some women get off super easy with little stimulation and that’s awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:34 PM
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Women put out for their bfs all the time and they aren’t slut shamed. This sounds like another excuse for rampant chad fucking which is happening regardless of “shaming”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:28 PM
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Slut shaming is preventing orgasms…yeah sure lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:26 PM
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The same few men are always there and get picked for these escapades. There’s no equality in the sex market lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:57 PM
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With the dudes out of her league, self explanatory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:25 PM
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Not really. The saddest fact is how much less women prioritize sex in the broader scope of a relationship, it’s just not as important to them. Most men would either cheat or leave if the sex was meh but otherwise she had good qualities. Women think this is a good thing but it’s not to guys, most don’t want to be in that sort of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:07 AM
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OP wanna be a ho so bad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:16 PM
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Saves us both time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:14 PM
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You use a shovel for digging not to hammer a nail. Sluts are used for sex by chads but that doesn’t mean they’re relevant for something serious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:13 PM
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Somehow if he’s chad being toxic is ok lol We didn’t make the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:10 PM
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That’s just chad, chadpreet, Tyrone etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:41 PM
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Everyone wants the best but only women have sexual access to that. The average guy isn’t banging girls out of his league but it can happen for women. The vast majority of men aren’t thrilled that their partner has amazing sexually chemistry and lust with guys out of her relationship league however this is more common since casual sex has become normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:39 PM
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Yeah but you and her are both older, most younger women choose differently
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:35 PM
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They aggressively pursue for casual sex and want time+resources for relationship with less attractive dudes. How wholesome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:27 PM
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Your leaving the part about how she wants to fuck his brains out right away if he’s chad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:24 PM
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Way way more than us men think. This is one thing i definitely lacked and thought silly but they place more importance on it. Working out is still important but being fit without dressing well is a huge oversight. The opposite is definitely not true, basic chicks who aren’t fat > fatties who dress well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:25 PM
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The number of women interested increased so it’s quantifiable. It helps optimize dating for men so you focus on the traits with the greatest ROI while making you aware of deficiencies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:45 PM
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Trp is most common in ppl who want to optimize their life. Blue pill is most common with guys who don’t think to critically about things and go with the flow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:09 AM
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Most modern women have an overinflated self perception when it comes to their relationship market value. This comes from dating experience but also growing up with sisters and cousins. Along with a lack of accountability, it’s part of the starter pack lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 07:16 PM
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You’re basically saying the same thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:32 PM
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The women they’re interested in, women into the k pop type likely aren’t the type that they want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:06 AM
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Pretty much all musicians get around with women for some reason, the important variable is the that they’re musicians
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:04 AM
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You speak from a place of ignorance because you don’t have the same level of testosterone as a man. Look at what happens to women who take testosterone supplements and increase their lvl to men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:51 PM
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The Apex fallacy is strong here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:42 PM
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All the short gym bros at I lift with would beg to differ. If effort was the important variable, the short guy who dresses well, gets nice haircuts and is fit would have zero trouble dating yet almost all men know a guy like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:37 PM
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Yup and that 18% are hypergamous af not just about fitness but socio economically
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:56 PM
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Way more men are into it than women. Women prefer group exercises and they’re generally less consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:55 PM
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Maybe in bum fuck middle of the country but both the major coastal cities have airports that are full of fit well dressed ppl. Also in Denver and Dallas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:54 PM
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This is one of those things that opened my eyes on just how different/delusional women are regarding sex lives. The women I’ve spoken too on the matter called 1-2 months a dry spell where grown men are talking 6 months to years, they can’t wrap there head around how difficult it is for men with standards to obtain sex (outside of a serious relationship)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:09 PM
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My theory is that they’re desperate for something real since they’ve been ran thru so much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:44 PM
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Nah my ex came from a loving fam and she was still a ho lmao The common variable with these women is that they lose a lot of inhibitions under alcohol/substances. There are way less ho’s if you look at women who don’t drink or do drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:43 PM
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Nah we want the threesomes and the feelings. Picking feelings only is a bad deal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:37 PM
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Of course mean ppl aren’t super common. I responded to the rest in another comment but basically there are less nice attractive single men since most of them are in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:33 PM
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Nice attractive guys are already in relationships, for the single population there are way less of them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:32 PM
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It’s a universal experience, guys who are sweet and acclimating don’t get laid anywhere near as much, usually to the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:29 PM
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Everyone else realizes though. The traits that made her want to bang him are very noticeable and the woman is not some sort of victim for her own decision
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:26 PM
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How are they forgiving when they are embarrassed lol Women value looks less in the context of a long term relationship but the guy always has to compensate for the delta with something else, often a lot wealth/success. If you quantify it, the value of being slightly hotter/taller is worth hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) Almost all couples where the girl is hotter works this way. Also younger women care more about looks but transition to wealth as they mature
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:13 PM
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Lmao who tf is he? She was on record about how hard it was to find a man that would date her seriously, literally cried about it. Same w Lana rhoades and Mia khalifa, porn stars aren’t getting cuffed by quality dudes, they get piped
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:39 AM
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Damn you got me, that’s why athletes and celebs are cuffing porn stars left and right. Name one? It’s actually wild that even women on this sub don’t understand the difference between the sexual market and the relationship one, this comment is really a great example of the huge blind spot in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:28 AM
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Seriously, most dudes of even average quality dgaf. These women can only get weirdos/losers to cuff them anyway, they’re not in our market
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:24 AM
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Kinda, they’ll make fun of the women simping for them. Like they’ll show their friends (me) the desperate cringy things these ho’s say/do for them. It makes both them and I lose respect for these individuals and reflects poorly on women as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:15 PM
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It’s literally one person, depending on her age it’s pretty normal to have sex with a bf. High body count means many different ppl so unless she keeps getting new bfs (weird) she’s not getting a high body count by just fucking in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:11 PM
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It’s one person, unless she gets a bunch of bfs it’s not going to increase her count by much. She can have sex with him many times over and it’s still one person vs getting railed by a bunch of different dudes. I’m sure you understand this though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 10:09 PM
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Conflating having secs with a bf with high body count is either idiotic or purposefully misleading to create ambiguity on the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:58 PM
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How does having sec with a bf = high body count? Seems like women are conflating the two on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:56 PM
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Men do this all the time already, this is how a lot of casual sex occurs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:07 PM
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The same women will say she finds an man attractive maybe once a month and in the next breath say it’s harder for women to be attractive lol But the thing is, women separate sexually attractive with societal attractiveness so when they say they have it harder they speak about beauty standards. Any woman who thinks it’s harder to attract the opposite sex as a woman is completely delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:55 PM
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Dat cool but not enough for all women dawg It’s like if men only got hot for 20 yo virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:11 PM
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Very few women have enough self awareness to understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:50 PM
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Yes, men are transparent about this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:28 AM
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Different rules for chads
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:25 AM
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Nobody cares, the argument is about misogynistic being the deciding variable, it is obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:23 AM
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Women don’t fuck down but men do, one happens way more often than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:18 AM
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The male to female ratio of any given city is a great determinant of the dating potential I urge any guy to try it and you’ll see that you actually can match with decent looking chicks when the ratio is higher for women. It’s a supply/demand market
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:50 AM
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Men and women aren’t the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:47 AM
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They’re more selective yet utterly fail to meet their goals. That tells you a lot about their priorities. Wholesome dudes ain’t getting picked first, it’s 6’3 horsecock chaddicus or bust
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:44 AM
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Nah any guy whose had a chad friend knows this isn’t true. The calculus for women changes gradually as they get older but chad is winning online and real life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:38 AM
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A lot of fluff but then the same conclusion as OP lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:02 AM
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If a guy isn’t already maximizing his controllable stats, that’s on him. Fat dudes that complain are losers in my eyes. The most important stats aren’t controllable though. Facial/jaw structure, height, hair etc Go to any gym and you’ll find fit dudes with decent jobs that can’t pull, it’s extremely common. Getting one gf isn’t a mark of success either, if a guy can’t pull casually but his girl has done casual, that’s an L
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:36 AM
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Higher incidence of depression in women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:27 PM
2

Women dumpster diving for sex is as rare as a white rhino. Extremely low incidence so negligible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:26 PM
10

Definitely not. I used to watch it all the time and completely stopped once I got a gf, we had sex 3-4 times a week. I didn’t even notice until a couple years in that I stopped lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:22 PM
2

I agree with the first paragraph but I also know I rarely watched porn when I had a gf and while losing the brain fog from chronic porn use is amazing, it doesn’t net you girls all of a sudden.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:20 PM
2

They’re not having it all the time. Chad will rotate through different women. For the mids and below, they’re desperate for drunk chad to pick them in a moment of intoxication. Usually the ugly ones have to settle for persistent dudes (these guys are super gross) because they get to feel desired. An average man with standards won’t go for that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:17 PM
27

There are already way too many men at bars and clubs. The ratio pretty much everywhere is not in men’s favor it’s just some places are less bad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:12 PM
-1

The problem with this is women are aroused by men, they just have to be way hotter than the threshold we have for women. Every guy whose had chad friends has seen how women react, it’s like night and day. Once you see this, you don’t respect women the same anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:21 AM
2

Would be very flattering but I’d think it was a trick or something… like she wanted to steal my kidneys lol But I still probably wouldn’t date her if she was average American BMI, perhaps European BMI. I’m above average in fitness myself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:14 AM
14

Those dudes are likely below average and fat themselves, most men with value are going for the 50
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:27 AM
3

If a guy has ever had a chad friend, he’s seen how women act when they’re into someone. Women simp for chads but if he’s not high value, they expect him to pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:40 PM
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