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A lot of these things will be personal, and some will be a complete non issue to men. You also need to distinguish between short term hookups, and long term relationships, as I'll definately be a lot more lenient for casual sex. I'll assume long term, so here are some of mine: *History of bad choices of relationships. If a girl has a goal for her relationship, but is constantly choose the wrong guy for that role. *Blaming everything on everyone else in her life except herself. *Bad financial man…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:52 PM
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It's about doing something that makes the other person feel good. If you want the man to accommodate you so you can regulate emotionally, then it's only fair you regulate them as well. For men that's often through physical means. Intelligent women understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:44 AM
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That's a typical woman for you. On Reddit I assume ND until otherwise proven, so women here are in the minority, but then even ND would have a lot of accommodations they'd expect men to make for them to regulate them emotionally, but when a man wants his emotions regulated through a BJ, all hell breaks loose .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:42 AM
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A lot of it comes from experience with women tho. I have talked about geopolitics on the first date (it did not go well) so we generally just stick to fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:39 AM
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The way I see it, is it's all chemicals in the brain. Male chemicals are wired differently and women are constantly marginalising their experience, while expecting men to "step up to the plate" for their emotional needs. Women fail to see when they expect things like a man to be present there for them and listen as their talk about objectively mundane things, it's just as "shallow" as men's need for sex. You want to trauma dump to us about how Jenny talked in front of everyone about an event you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:20 PM
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That's great. So the ideal woman would just discuss big topics like geopolitics with me, and never want me to sit and listen to her as she unloads about random personal conflicts in her day?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:13 PM
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Yes, men care about sex because that's how they connect to women, and how they release frustration and stress. A smart and caring woman would understand that, but we live in the West, and this lack on understanding and empathy is a major reason to avoid committed relationships for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:26 PM
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The main RP belief would be that women categorise men (generally) in to two (generally) categories, and that those men are treated significantly differently. That some women maybe asexual, or how strong conservative values that make them overcome their instinct, or are the opposite, and are sex addicted with a low threshold are all valid considerations. Human interactions will never be solid. A good example would be "men want to sleep with anything they see". I would say this is also a RP genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:16 AM
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Of course, don't forget alcohol. You are better off, again, generally, from the "alpha" category, and then becoming a provider should you chose so. You will be treated way better, while a provider is prone to much more manipulation and demands, as well as hypergamy, as well as being cheated on through an "alpha"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:00 AM
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Generally yes. If a woman jumps into bed with a guy right away it means he was able to generate high attraction in her, if a woman is able to hold back and analyse and plan when she's "ready" to have sex, that means the attraction isn't that high. The categories aren't fixed, and can shift. A woman may see a man as an "alpha" but then he will do or say something that will give her the "ick" or make him an option for the provider category.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:14 AM
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Who's not in control? Both people make choice, and sometimes those choices align, sometimes not. They are influenced by emotions. Everyone will have different circumstances and ability which will determine how much logic or emotions they act on. A woman living in poverty being courted by a good provider would probably less likely to hook up with a poor guy they are attracted to than a woman who has a steady well paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:33 PM
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Sometimes. Usually when they cheat and have a "good thing" going with a provider guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:49 PM
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You're dealing with human psychology, so yeah, there's nothing fixed. That doesn't mean you can't generally predict behaviour. Money and status is always a plus, but attraction can be completely seperate, and yeah, it can even get in the way because it may change the fantasy, like say you're attracted to a struggling artist who sacrificing everything for his art, but then find out his parents are really wealthy and are supporting him. It may take that "edge" off, and maybe get you thinking of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:44 PM
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It's smart to prioritise, and put aside some individual benefits for greater ideals. Very rare for anyone to do that, but on Reddit to be honest I assume I'm talking with someone who has a ND until proven otherwise, so I'm not as surprised 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:29 PM
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Don't get hung up on the word "Alpha", that's why I put it in quotes. It's just a general category for a man women will feel a strong desire to copulate with instantaneously. They could have money, or they could be a bum. Sometimes a man may start off in this category for a woman, but once she finds out he has money and would be a good provider, he can switch. Sometimes a man can and would be a good provider, but the woman wants him to be the "Alpha" for her that any provider actions will turn h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:24 PM
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There are exceptions, of course, when it comes to human behaviour. These "rules" are just something to be aware of generally when interacting with women, and like I answered in another question as to why RP is sticking around, these observations are believed because they are readily observable from women. You can even do a search on Reddit about waiting for aex and you'll find women outright telling you they categorise men, and make men who they want for long term relationships wait for sex. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:18 PM
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We're just cleaver enough to understand that there's always exceptions to the rule when it comes to generalities about something as complex as human behaviour, and AWALT rolls of the tongue pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:04 PM
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There's way too many to list, I sort of discuss them as I go 🤷 I would probably agree with most of the theory, but disagree with a lot of the action to be taken. For example, I give zero shits about the propagation and continuation of Western society, so women having more kids doesn't concern me. So I maybe have the RP knowledge of why people aren't having children, but I don't want to do anything about it, and don't care if more of the same things are done to have women have even less kids, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:34 PM
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AWALT was never concrete. It was stills generalisation, and when it comes to humans, we all have the ability to overcome out natural instincts, but often chose not to when given the right circumstances. (Freedom from punishment)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:24 PM
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You're starting to talk about pick up based on the knowledge. The knowledge stops at the knowledge as far as I'm concerned. A girl making you wait can have many different reasons behind it, which you probably won't find out about. What you're talking about is a strategy that you hope gives you the best chance to progress a relationship to sex, which I would classify as pick up and seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:20 PM
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I don't hate women, but I don't love them enough to ignore reality. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:10 PM
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RP put most simply is a set of beliefs about human nature, particularly in the area of relationships. Any determination beyond that is a personal opinion that may base its reasoning on RP knowledge / belief, but may seek completely different outcomes. For example, taking a RP observation / belief etc. that women hold out on sex for those men they categorised as a provider, while freely jumping into bed with an "Alpha", there are many different outcomes you can still take. Maybe having this RP kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:48 AM
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People need to be kinder in general. It's one things to have a sexual preference, and another to be nasty and judgemental about someone who doesn't fit your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:49 PM
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That's exactly my point. Assuming the older guy is gonna be wealthier than the girl, there's a fat chance she'll be left taking care of him in old age, and a much bigger one that he'll end up losing half his shit. Hence better off renting a young girl. Having a casual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:45 PM
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Women doing what the Red Pill points out. You can try brainwash men however much you want, but eventually the "noticing" starts to happen, and an explanation is provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:47 PM
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It's actually a really good deal due to divorce, if you're actually overall enjoying your time with them. Practically and for family reasons, an established older man is a pretty good long term option for the woman, and a bad choice for the man. The older man is much better off "renting"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:17 AM
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It's a society issue for sure, but don't complain when society collapses around you, or other cultures who are having children start taking control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:10 PM
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I don't know about mass extinctions, but you would have to be an utter moron of a man to go off and die defending a society that treats you like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:21 PM
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Red Pill is offering "just the truth Neo". It points out human nature, and the judgement call is based on further personal opinion. Just like you pointed out that most married men would be attracted to other women, is the Red Pill. Anything beyond that, like judging those men negatively which many Christian trad cucks do do, is a personal judgement call and doesn't extend beyond TRP information.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:36 PM
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Jail time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:59 AM
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What are women gonna do if they can't complain about men all day? #menextinctwomenmostaffected
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:17 AM
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I don't get the whole male loneliness thing in the first place. There are so many social clubs and things to do. Hit the gym, get a dog, go hiking in a group, do rock climbing. Not being commited to a relationship opens you up to so much fun stuff, so as far as I'm concerned the loneliness is self imposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:58 AM
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Most men don't even vote to repress women, let alone want to physically do it. I think women mistake complaining with pointing out the truth. The depressed incel section of men is actually pretty small. Most RP type guys online are either getting casually laid, traveling, financially independent living their life free from chidlren etc. We are good. Yes, I'll point out the hypocrisy, but I have bigger concerns politically than women. If you avoid marriage, you dodge most of the inequality in soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:48 AM
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It's a mixed bag imo, due to the philosophy of people making the content. Lots of Christian bros for example, that will say the right things but attach their agenda to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 10:57 PM
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I think it should be capped at what the government pays single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:41 AM
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The good news is, there are societies where piece of shit men have become the majority norm, and all the simps are bread out. In these societies good men are desired to an extent, and being a good man from the West more so. Evolution will eventually make the West be like that, it's a long time coming tho, and I wouldn't even bother wasting your breath. Just find your own joy, and enjoy the shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:40 AM
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I'm not here to debate what's absolutely right. There's plenty or research done that abusive men learn to be abusive from their fathers. Women procreate with abusive men to pass on the perceived attributes their emotions tell them would be evolutionarily advantageous, so why act surprised when one of those traits passed on is being abusive and manipulative? It's what you selected for. Add on top of that women doing it in public life, and good men being demonised and blamed for the abuse of other…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:11 AM
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And my point was to suck it up and have sex with them anyway if they are a good guy, and avoid having sex with men who are pieces of shit but arouse you. Take control over your emotions like and adult and not a child that acts on impulse, and feels entitled to everything going their way regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:56 AM
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You've ignored my point entirely, so why even bother to ask questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:08 PM
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I'm talking about your ability to perform a sexual act, and how it suddenly materialises when you are offered vast sums of money, but for some reason can't be found when you come across a genuinely decent man willing to treat you well, but isn't making your vulva itch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:44 PM
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Hard to know exactly without looking at the actual interaction. With me personally, I am observing how easy a woman makes the dating process for me. If she turns it into a game, I'll often play, but she is categorised in the casual pile for me. If the woman makes effort, makes the dating process easy, it shows a high level of attraction towards me or a good general attitude, both a massive plus. The longest relationship I had was with a woman like this. Dating was easy and not a constant struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:12 AM
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I have actually slept with unattractive women because they were cool, and we're into me. People have sex all the time for money. It's not some impossible thing. If someone offered you a million dollars to sleep with someone, I'm sure you will muster up the want pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:21 AM
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Women are the majority of the population, hence we are by default a matriarchy in a democracy where the majority choose the leaders. The reason women subject themselves to said leaders is the same reason they subject themselves to asshole men. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:48 AM
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Pretty simple. Get control over your emotions and stop thinking with your vulva. You see a guy that really turns you on? Is he objectively a piece of shit? Maybe don't have sex with him unless you want to reward that behaviour. You see a good guy, but he just doesn't give you that raw emotion? Give the poor guy a blow job even if you don't feel like it that much. Doing things that you don't really want to do, and avoiding things that you do really want to do is called being an adult. Or, continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:08 AM
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I'm just pointing out the reality, not offering up solutions. Like I said, that's up to the feminists to figure out if they want a feminist society to continue existing. I couldn't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:42 PM
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yes. an exmaple of women being vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:27 PM
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Physical intimacy is how some people form connection and bond. Calling is shallow is no different than calling any other bond forming interaction, or feel good action in a relationship ship shallow, because they're all chemicals in the brain at the end of the day. A couple can have a stronger emotional bond from "just" having sex than another who spend hours talking about how their day went.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:16 PM
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Some women will admit they want dominance. Plenty of books have been written on female aexual fantasies, or how some of the best sex they've had was with men who abused them. What's annoying are the lies, vagueness and gaslighting on men who understand the truth, and the hate and shame on men who chose to clock out of the game in various ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:01 PM
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And did Rome collapse into a more conservative society?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:55 PM
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lol, far from it! I have nothing but apathy for the West, and welcome whatever comes to replace it. Can't be much worse Keeping this society going is above my pay grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:42 AM
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Well that's the point. If you're a feminist you don't want your feminist society to fail and be replaced by a non/less feminist one. Anyway, this is an off topic discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:06 AM
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It requires replacement population.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:59 AM
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A lot of men start off as feminists, and are "rehabilitated" because of relationship experience 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:07 AM
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Some feminists understand that if society doesn't have a replacement birthrate, said society will collapse, and that will be the end of your feminist society. I haven't read what hooks has said in depth, but I'm guessing this is an attempt to somehow convince men / women to start having kids again, while keeping a feminist ideology. In the end it's up to the parties involved. Do men care enough about society to submit? Will they enjoy the arrangement? Will it be enough for women? All personal ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:58 AM
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For all the "optimization" women do, they still invetiable seem to pick the worst men possible to date, project that worstness onto all the normal men they constantly reject, and repeat the phrase "nice guys aren't really nice" Maybe nice guys are nice, but just not attractive to you 🤷 I don't mind who women date at the end of the day, but the hypocrisy and dishonesty is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:20 PM
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There are guys who have gotten good at game, that had to downgrade their apartments because every time they brought a girl home for a casual hook up and she saw that he was wealthy, they would instantly hold out sex. You can only deny mens lived experience for so long. Again, look at lilyths posts on here, supported by blue pilled women, and all confirming AF / BB idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:28 PM
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A lot of things are discussed, but might not be conclusive. AF / BB is heavily supported tho, by females themselves setting rules about when they have sex with different classifications of guys. Just look at all the posts lilithofbabylon posts. She's heavily pushing that idea, that relationship (BB) guys should wait indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:22 PM
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Well there are many reasons that could make us incompatible. Maybe she is asexual for example. I've actually dated an asexual girl before, but not sure if I would do it again. Or maybe she's a conservative Christian, which is also a no. Some women genuinely need to build more trust and comfort before being intimate. If this is genuinely the case, and I don't find out in the future that she was jumping into bed with men on first dates before netting me, then I'd be willing to wait if everything e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:19 PM
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There are always going to be exceptions in human behaviour, because like you said, humans are very varied, but you can make accurate generalisations. A very basic truth would be that women are generally attracted to men who are taller than them. It's not going to be always true, and it certainly won't be the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:49 PM
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Objective truth refers to reality as it exists independently of human beliefs, feelings, or perceptions. It is a fact that remains true for everyone, regardless of personal opinions or biases, and is often verified through observation, science, or logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:43 PM
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It's not required, but I would ask WHY isn't sed happening. Usually the why will reveal reasons that the relationship shouldn't be persued.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:27 PM
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Read the very next sentence after that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:25 PM
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By all means, explain your logic to me. Where the connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:21 PM
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Men can enjoy sex for pleasure, and want a relationship. The two aren't mutually exclusive in the majority of sexually healthy adults. A man looking for a relationship will generally be looking for a healthy sexual relationship within that relationship, unless he is asexual, is purely pragmatic like wnsting children or money, or is manipulative and planning to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:38 PM
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How do you even interpret what I said that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:48 AM
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Red Pill is the understanding of human psychology. It is objective truth, as close to understanding as we can come to it. To some people it comes off as mysogyny because they don't like certain facts about female nature. Some people who have Red Pill knowledge then make judgement calls on how society should run, or how women should be treated, which could be mysogynistic. As far as I'm concerned, the Red Pill does not extend beyond understanding the knowledge. You can be an ardent feminist and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:53 AM
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What do you want a break from? She just gave a list, and like I predicted they are all practical, and basic requirements, unless you're making your choices based on attraction alone. It sums up many guys that don't have luck in the West, but clean up internationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:46 AM
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Good looking would be relative, but most men I've met traveling who retire with foreign wives cover all those criteria. It's actually a pretty basic list imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:42 AM
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"chad" is such an arbitrary term. You can significantly increase your ability to trigger attraction in a large population of women without being considered a "chad" You also make it sound like getting social skills is easier than going to the gym, or there aren't natural barriers to it. I have a very soft voice for example. Women cannot hear me in a club, but they can see me, and they can feel my body dancing close to me. I'm not a chad, but I have had a 5 come up to me before and ask if I wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:59 AM
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Practical standards but not based on emotions most likely. Many Western men that date women overseas tick all the boxes of being good men, but struggle fulfilling the emotional part. Would like a list. Assuming no smoking, no drinking, good grooming, financially well off type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:49 AM
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If we're defining a chad as purely on attractive physical appearance, then yes, will never be able to reach a desirable level enough, and would need to use other means to trigger attraction in women. You work with what you have. Good looks can't hurt and are often a cheat code for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:30 AM
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Depends on the person. If a guy can get ripped at a garage at home, and is more inclined to do that than socialise, then it's a better option for them. I also prefer using the term introvert to anti social. There are ehibedtly far worse qualities to judge someone on than how much of a social butterfly they are. Hitler was quite popular at parties from what I heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:10 AM
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When two people are relating to each other, that is a relationship. There's no objective view of what a relationship is. Your 30 days could be someone else's 1 day or 1 year, it is all individual. Many people believe you shouldn't have sex until marriage, and some believe you should get married before getting to know the other person at all. It's all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:47 PM
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To me it's not so much about sex, but feelings. You can be a slave to emotion and not have sex right away. Plenty of women get screwed over in platonic friendships in the same sort of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:29 PM
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Depends what you mean by shallow. I consider women prioritising their emotions in general, regardless if it's feeling attracted to someone who looks good, or feeling attracted to someone who speaks intelligently. Based on that definition, mens dating pool would be restricted to neuro divergent lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:44 PM
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Conversations: no idea what you're talking about here. Seems like a specific dating issue you've experienced. If you explore dating advice for men it stretches from leading the conversation, to letting the woman do all the talking about herself. Social Skills: Doubt there's a refusal, but I can see an acknowledgement that social skills are just not as important as being attractively looking, and I'd say I'd agree with that. I'd say I have above average social skills, and large and diverse social…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:59 PM
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Rhats too complicated to explain, and every relationship will be unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:35 PM
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Women are attracted to all kinds of things, as are men. Adults constantly have all kind of feelings and impulses they don't act upon because they are adults and not children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:13 AM
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Also reliability, kindness, non criminality. Lots of things that don't often correlate with what turns women on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:55 AM
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I don't really care about either one. They are more issues for the society and governments, rather an individual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:50 AM
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Lol, it's not tho, but that's the issue in the modern world. Do you think the ultra wealthy date and marry for feelings alone? Ask yourself honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:48 AM
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It's not denying it, it's the constant complaints of "all the men I dare are assholes" when all the rest of the men can easily point out to you how much of an asshole the next man you're choosing to date based predominantly on emotion (attraction) is going to be. By all means, date based on your feelings, but be somewhat aware of the choices you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:13 AM
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Add on top of that those women often shaming women who take a more pragmatic and logical approach to relationships, marrying someone far older but socially / financially successful for example. You're not empowered, you lack emotional control, and your bad mating choices have been supported by society through welfare and simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:09 AM
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30 days and 3 meetings is your abitrary time, but sure, if that's casual to YOU who am I to question your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:17 AM
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Well we didn't start with marriage, and we grew apart for various reasons, but it developed into a committed relationship. I really don't see what distinction you make for sex being casual or not casual, just an arbitrary time period? The only distinction I can think of would be having sex to have children, but that's extremely rare in modern relationships, and quite puritan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:56 AM
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I've been in multi year relationships which included sex in the first three dates. I'm sure life long marriages happened from first meet hook ups too. The two are not mutually exclusive. You should have sex when both people have attraction for each other and want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:06 PM
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Yeah, except you referred to women who do as abnormal in a previous post, ans that's what I'm calling you out on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:03 PM
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That's sexuality, that's seeking emotional gratification by other means. Women have been doing it with vibrators,.romance novels and cats. Are you confused with me lumping emotional affection, like women seeking it with pets or animals, as part of sexuality? Neither should be shamed, and while we're at it, not even following a platonic passion or career as opposed to relationships. Just stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:26 PM
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Well that's what many women are choosing to do. I guess your opinion is their complaints against men are irrelevant, and good riddance to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:12 PM
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It's not about care, it's about shame. Stop shaming sexuality. Stop telling women they are abnormal for using vibrators. If they provide more satisfaction for them, it's up to men to lift up their game, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:10 PM
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You showed you're not a hypocrite, so kudos. I still vehemently disagree that men or women seeking emotional and sexual satisfaction beyond a direct interpersonal ones are an "abomination" like you said. Mastrurbation is ok, even if it's elaborate, and it's up to the other party to provide enough incentive to compete with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:09 PM
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Do you want the women who are fed up dealing with men out of the gene pool as well? Do you believe men don't have to deal with female BS, that females are invaluable angels? Show me you're not sexist or a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:02 PM
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You are shaming male sexuality, but go ahead and shame female sexuality if you're truly an equalitist. I want to see you type how abnormal women who replace men with vibrators are, or the girls who have Ai husbandos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:56 PM
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Culture is always changing. Old generations die out, those cultures that have the most sticking power stick around and grow. I think a lot of men are being whinny because their pee pee isn't getting touched. There's more to life, and also, there's prostitution everywhere. True incels are a very small minority, but maybe the loudest, and have the most time on their hands to post online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:34 PM
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What part of male sexuality are you looking to shame and classify as abnormal here? This is exactly the double standard men talk about. I haven't said one thing about women having husbandos, using vibrators or even reading gay male manga, but you have no issues shaming a sexuality you neither understand or want to understand. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:29 PM
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Females are human beings, and hence aren't complete slaves to their feelings, or at least shouldn't be, however in the West that seems to be what is percievebly happening. I agree that men shouldn't get emotional about it, and just accept where women are driving society. It is what it is. You either adapt as much as you can through "maxing", exit the dating market entirely, or change your culture to one where you will be appreciated. Choosing based only / predominantly on emotion isn't bad, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:45 AM
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The world might be heading that way. Women started segregating themselves from men, but now with the advant of sex dolls, Ai chat bots, and one day an artificial womb, men have started backing away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:19 AM
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I love the affection women give when they're into you. They also have different focus and attention on things, and can give you a unique point of view. Women are not a monolith, but those are two general things that stand out behind wanting to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:15 AM
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Women definitely get a pass at judging and shaming men for their dating preferences. It's not enough to just say hey, that guy isn't my type to them. They often need to be vindictive and cruel, then the same women will turn around and talk about men body shaming women or being racists for the aesthetic preferences. How about this, so long as the people are two consenting adults, who cares what type of sex, age, body type, race etc they either want to or don't want to date, and not let it go beyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:12 AM
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Red pill knowledge is only concerned with human nature. Any further judgement you cast on women, or how society should run becomes a personal choice. You can have the red pill knowledge that men want to sleep with as many different women as they can, but then take the stance that it's sinful and men should live in monetaries, or that it's natural and they should all have hareems, or any stance in between. The red pill does not extend beyond the initial understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:17 AM
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You're just assuming and shaming womens sexuality here. You can list many negative reasons for women to hold out on sex too, like manipulation or conservative brainwashing, but I'd never apply those traits with a broad brush like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:57 AM
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Part of the "treatment" is the respect and attraction a woman has for you. If she's not giving you the best of herself, and you know it, it can be just as important emotionally as her been practically more capable. I've dated autistic and asexual women, and I would appreciate the effort they put in to be with me much more than the relatively low effort neurotypical women put in to do more practical things for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:29 PM
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"If the person don't "give" the same (feeling, trust, company, security, sex, or whatever) back to you then maybe this person is not for you. And that's ok." That's pretty much the red pill argument. If the other person isn't giving to you, the move on. Women still want to not give but get the committment from men, hence this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:20 PM
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The sex doesn't have to be the same, but it should be better. If say that asshole ex you broke up with had a threesome with you and your friend, and got anal, then a threesome and anal is the LEAST you should offer to the guy you're ready to spend the rest of your life with. Too many women become Christian all of a sudden once they've had their "fun". That used to fly, but more and more guys are waking up to it and setting standards. They don't want you to stop fucking how you want to, but they …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:14 PM
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If you don't want sex with a guy as quickly as with someone else, then you're not as attracted to them. There's no real way to trick a guy except forcing yourself to have sex early even if you're not feeling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:08 PM
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The complaint isn't that women are being selective, it's that they claim to be selective, but constantly go for men that become everything they claim to avoid. I was in a club yesterday, and noticed this guy making our with a girl, then getting her friend in a headlock and trying to make out with her also. He was displaying abusive and non-comittal behaviour, but was being rewarded for it by the women. Other men notice that shit and start to imitate. The most I got laid in my life was when I del…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:57 PM
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I have groups of women block my path constantly, and I do exactly what you do. Nits common courtesy to make space on the path if you're walking with someone. Is this the next wave of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:52 PM
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Jesus. I told you exactly what I'm upset about, and you're doing it right there in the quote. It's like talking to a brick wall at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:06 PM
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I just quoted you doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:00 PM
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My issue, like I said and you yet again choose to ignore, is equating abuse with the speed a woman sleeps with someone. It shows your complete ignorance of abuse, or your outright manipulative use of it to push your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:52 PM
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"It’s so funny watching guys here and in the red pill blame victims of abuse for not choosing better and how a lot of single moms didn’t choose better. But as soon as relationship minded women realize they should make sure the guy they’re dating is not a piece of shit before having sex with him, "
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:46 PM
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I hope the strawmen you built up from my comment don't come alive and we find ourselves in a horror movie! Where to even start. How about you equating abuse, a topic I personally take very seriously and that I know women directly effected by, with the speed a woman sleeps with someone. The two are completely unrelated, and if anything the women I know would have been better off sleeping with the guy early on and never seeing them again. Abuse in relationships is a serious topic, that often stret…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:29 PM
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How do you know how many women do it? Why are you assuming it's purely and algorithm. I've seen all kinds of stuff dating and by being friends with women. Would you like me to tell you about my friend who would get savagely ass fucked, and hook up with women so she could keep her virginity? You haven't got a clue about how many women set these rules, but that advice is still rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:38 PM
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Well said. OP won't get it 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:14 PM
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It's women who are classifying and judging guys, and putting them in catagories. Why are you asking me how to classify it? And why should I ask for a hookup if I'm looking for a relationship? What you're sane makes zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:08 PM
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Dude, some women want to wait till marriage, but many set some arbitrary time frame. Why are you so hung up on marriage and ignoring the actual topic, that is women holding out sex for men the deem "relationship" material to manipulate them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:25 PM
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I don't disagree, but some men don't have another option. Being a precieved provider is the only way for them to get certain woman, or any woman at all. It's more work, but it's all they've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:19 PM
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She can do whatever she wants, but I expect to be treated at minimum with the same standard. I don't see why you think a good man doesn't want to have sex right away, or explore some sexual kink. It seems like you're the one being judgemental not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:14 PM
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How am I insulting women? I have zero judgement on who or how many men they sleep with. And it is more conservative to not fuck strangers, at least sexually. Many women take no issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:25 PM
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If she's legitimately being faithful her whole life, accept it. If she's one of those "born again" Christians tho... I knew a girl who went from banging two guys on a table in a night club, to being a conservative Jewish wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:22 PM
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You're on the internet. Those women are just as likely to be 8 year old boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:19 PM
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I appreciated her more for it. I don't think it brought us closer or anything, but maybe a bit. She did love me probably. I mean, she tolerated me being stinky for a while so I had something going for me 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:35 AM
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I would feel insecure if a woman treated me differently, that's the whole point. I want to find out if I'm being manipulated or if the woman doesn't have that much attraction for me. Secure relationships are built on honestly, equality and trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:33 AM
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From what u remember, the girl outright told me you stink, wash your butt 😆 I'm pretty easy going and non judgemental so I'm open to constructive advice like that. Yes,.some women are more elusive and you need to read between the lines, but direct advice is a breath of fresh air. It's the difference between someone telling you your fly is undone, and someone pretending not to see it so they don't hurt your feelings. I'd rather zip up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:26 AM
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Only women who have something to hide would consider it a red flag. Adults tlak about sex, and there are drinking games with questions a lot more risque than that. You're just looking for anything to pick a guy like me out, but you're not gonna know. How about instead of finding ways to manipulate men, you just treat as to the same standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:24 AM
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It depends on the guy, but I absolutely love it and it made me a better person. One of my girlfriend's taught me how to shower properly, with all the brush and shampoo nonsense. I used to just take a dip in the ocean before (and probably smell half the time) Some guys probably can't handle it, but I always appreciate a woman giving me some hygiene or style tips. Even for Red Pill content there are some awesome women out there giving advice atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:17 AM
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It will come out sooner or later, and I usually outright ask a woman if she had jumped into bed with men right away. If she lies and the truth comes out later, then she's lying AND manipulative, qhich gives me extra reasons to dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:13 AM
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Some guys can't pull off the Chad vibe. Some play the provider role much better. The goal is to have sex, not actually provide for a woman. This strategy uses the prospect of providing, but then cutting it off once the guy gets what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:11 AM
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I wouldn't believe that option. Especially when you see women constantly giving advice to hold out sex for men they see as potential long term partners. The cat is well and truly out of the bag and on its way to Vegas
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:08 AM
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It's not entitlement. If a woman is a nun to every guy, then I will accept her being a nun to me. If she is a "free spirit" with hook up material, but then decided to treat the man she supposedly wants to spend the rest of her life with worse than the hook ups, mentally she goes in my hook up pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:06 AM
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Being partner material is fine, so long as you are given at a minimum the same sexual energy as a hookup. If by relationship material you mean that you are treated worse (restricted from physical affection or types of physical affection) then the woman can look for another chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:01 AM
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I did a quick search just now, and here is one of the MANY statements that popped up: It depends on what I want in the relationship. If I am thinking they are worth committing to for the long haul I’m waiting till we are officially dating. If I can tell they are maybe not wanting to commit to something serious then there is no point in waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:46 AM
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Just do a search in Reddit along the lines of "wait to have sex with a guy" and see all the advice women give. Marriage is rare, but it happens also.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:43 AM
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Anything from physical and emotional abuse, theft and scams, do lying and promising them the world, but just ghosting them after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:32 AM
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You see women online all the time set arbitrary timetables for men about how long they will wait for sex. You're going to have to ask them why they're doing it, but it's a thing to have X dates before a kiss, X dates before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:25 AM
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It's not connected to liking sex, but more about self control. Women certainly can keep their vagina in their pants through self control or "encouragement" from society. In modern society, women are free to express these desires, and have great access to it. This is the RP understanding. That most women would if they could, and do when they can. It's about breaking the previously conservative view of women. If anything, you can say RP men are modern day feminists 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:13 AM
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Attraction isn't the choice, but being in a relationship with someone is. Men are learning to put their emotions aside, and refuse to commit to hypocritical women. They will still sleep with them. From your perspective I would add that men do need to acknowledge women who genuinely choose to be conservative with their sexuality, through choice or genetics, and not expect or push for it when it isn't there to be offered, so the pendulum can swing the opposite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:59 AM
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You're gonna have to ask women what's going in their head, but I've had a good time multiple times putting my ego aside in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:51 AM
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You're completely off. I mentioned in another thread dating a woman who was Asexual, and has no issue with her mostly platonic but affectionate company, because that's just who she was. The issue arises when a man knows a woman has hopped in bed with some asshole on the first date, but now, with them, a good man ready to committ and provide for the women, she "won't have sex until marriage" or "sex isn't that important to me anymore" It's this double standard that men rally against, especially w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:27 AM
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I agree. Men shouldn't complain in general, or get emotion about female dating preference. They are what they are. Either play the game or avoid them. I get annoyed when the attitude of these guys is falsely projected onto me, or when women try to deny strategy that obviously works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:21 AM
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That was me, but I put my ego aside and had a good time. I just don't consider these women for long term relationship. Don't get me wrong, I do not put a significant amount of time and resources pursuing these women like an orbiter typically does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:17 AM
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Transient jobs like that don't carry the danger as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:14 AM
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You get some leeway when you're young, but I see women making the same mistakes when they should know better. You obviously learned your lesson early on, and probably won't complain how all guys are bad on here since I'm assuming after this guy you've dated decent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:19 AM
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They weren't there before / men were not as aware. It took watching a few people get fired, or being fired themselves, or listening to stories for the culture to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:15 AM
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I'm not young (40 yo), but won't shit where I sleep due to all the HR minefields. Money = sex and freedom for men in the know. Even though there's a chance to develop a relationship through proximity and interaction, it's not worth the risk IMO. If young people are onto it, kudos to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:59 AM
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I think one of the best attitudes is "it's just your turn" I've felt cut and jealous before when a woman chose another guy right in front of me, but had the experience of pursuing said woman later on and having some of the memorable sexual experiences in my life. If I just sulked and gave up, it never would have happened. I also had a woman go for a gay guy in our social group, and then picking me as a second option when she realised he wouldn't budge. Stay stoic, play your best cards and see wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:56 AM
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Press to doubt. I've seen these men first hand acting arrogant and disruptive in social settings, being physically aggressive, and walk away with women's phone numbers or hand in hand with someone. Then suprise picachu face when said man ends up being said man. I went from hating these guys, to taking notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:46 AM
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I set my standard based on women's previous experience. I've dated Asexual women before for example, where the sex was very rare, but it was fine with me because she wasn't treating me any differently than the other men she dated and just had sensory issues, or other psychological blocks I wasn't able to overcome, but I enjoyed her company and dated her for a few months completely content. I will always give women the benefit of doubt in these cases, however, say I meet a woman and know that she…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:32 AM
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I bet if you showed us the profiles of the guys you dates, us average men will be able to show all the blatant red flags you ignored because you were attracted to them. I'm yet to meet a woman who was screwed over by a man that I couldn't tell was going to scree her over from a million miles away. Women get blinded by their emotions and date shit men, those men act shitty, women make posts like this projecting the shittyness on the average man. Average man goes "fuck this, if I'm getting blamed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:23 AM
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The reality is the majority of women have insanely high standards, and overly inflated egos, made more so if one of these top guys stuck their penis inside them one time. This would be fine if they were content to be cum socks for these men, but then they turn around and project the same standards on the average guy who's got their own shit to deal with and is just trying to get through life, but now has to listen to women complain about how terrible men are and patriarchy. Inevitable it makes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:17 AM
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Incels are emotional little bitches, and I agree that men should stop whining about being lonely, but that's different to stoically pointing out facts and the reality of the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:14 AM
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Nope. Most of us are just expressing genuine experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:04 AM
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I don't complain. If I know a woman had casual sex in the past, I expect that minimum from her if she wants genuine commitment from me. If she was a nun her whole life, then yes, I can accept waiting till marriage, but women want to be sluts with certain guys and not with others. Some guys may fall for it, but the smart ones will either drop them, or wait it out and then ghost. This will either push guys to be more ruthless with women, or to stay single, so it's a catch 22 for women who want a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:52 PM
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That means genuine chumps get treated even worse, until they finally wake up to the situation because they know that woman has had casual sex before, but is making them wait a year or more now for the same thing some asshole got. That's a good way to red pill men. Even if women delay, it's still a better chance than not getting any for the men who use the strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:47 PM
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He's talking about online dating, and yes, he is accurate. Pretending to want a relationship will give you the time of day with women as an average man. Women will absolutely exchange sex for the chance of stability and resources. I personally don't lie when I do this. I think women just assume I'm a chump because I'm very soft spoken and easy going, and act surprised when I put my foot down. Just recently I was hooking up with a single mom, and she would have her kids call me all the time so I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:43 PM
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Talking about online dating, and yeah, that strategy absolutely works. It's brutal, but women won't give average men the time of day unless they fit the potential provider mould. You get a nympho every once in a while, but generally if you want casual sex without commitment as a guy, you need to pretend you are looking for something long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:32 PM
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Seems like he just did it for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:27 PM
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Very few women get me genuinely aroused. I can look at a woman and say, yeah, she would be objectively desirable, but to actually have that physical arousal just from looking is very rare. Touching on the other hand, and most women can turn me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:57 PM
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This one random guy doesn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:54 PM
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Begone bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:48 PM
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Just like anorexia can be prevented in women by them just eating then. Nice bigoted logic, but what else did I expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:52 PM
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I already gave you some examples. Dying younger is a pretty big one, and incorporates a myriad of issues. The fact that men die younger than women, and women still have the overwhelming majority of government and charity money going to their welfare issues is just about as privileged as you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:18 PM
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Women are privileged. Even when it comes to the biology, women outlive men, and still have a disproportionate amount of funding directed towards their health issues, let alone mental health and things like poverty. By every metric I can think of, women are privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:04 PM
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I agree that men shouldn't complain and just act accordingly. There are plenty of solutions. But they certainly aren't privileged when it comes to pretty much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:00 PM
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