Safe_Hands Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. Yeah I'm not educated about law at all, especially outside of my country, so I'll just forfeit to you because you seem to know a lot more. I'm a utilitarian and I just want what's best for the largest amount of people, though I'm pretty lost on what that is in this instance. In the perfect world there'd be no gender bias or role differences between men and women, but that doesn't seem realistic at this point in time. Maybe we should have gender bias when dealing with this, maybe we shouldn't, I …	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 04:23 AM
1	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. What I specifically talked about was a law being discussed in Canada. Such a law needs to pass several (2-3 I believe) rounds of votes by the politicians responsible for passing it. Last time I checked, it passed the first one. I vaguely recall the second round happening at the end of January. I'd say it's reasonable to think it could realistically be passed. Can you give any links to this? Can't find it anywhere. I'll need to take a look for myself before I can make any opinion on it. No, you a…	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 02:43 AM
3	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. I'm happy that you're discussing topics with my ass and treating it as a person rather than just seeing it as a mere object of sexual desire. I doubt there's any toxic masculinity inside you.	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 02:07 AM
1	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. You bizarrely conflated rape and sexual harassment with each other then for some reason decided to throw in 'Toxic views on women' into the mix when those three are very separate issues and toxic is an incredibly vague term. Rape, sexual harassment, and (((bad))) views on women are very separate issues? You can't imagine any connections between these three topics at all? No correlations? No? Honestly, your last paragraph is extremely telling, you're getting more and more pissed off I won't go al…	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 01:57 AM
3	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. That's an amazing theory you have there. I think it's great that you're joining the fight against toxic masculinity by discussing your feelings with me, but wouldn't you rather talk about something factual instead?	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 01:39 AM
2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. Okay, let's go over these two comments with your observation, "I used toxic to describe men". I'll assume you meant "I used toxic to describe men on average", or "I used toxic to describe most men", because that's what the original commenter was talking about, and describing 2+ men as "toxic" isn't anything special. One of the reasons are that because on average, men rape and sexually harass more (toxic views on women). Me stating the simple and uncontroversial fact that men rape and sexually ha…	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 01:31 AM
0	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. What about the presumption of innocence? The thing they say in the western justice system that everyone is innocent until proven guilty? Do you not agree that it should be a thing? It's already a thing? Nobody can be 100% proven guilty, it's about statistical likelihoods. With the low standard of proof needed for sexual assault, this IS the time we live in. The standard of proof is a balancing act we do depending on the crime. The standard of proof needed for sexual assault has to be low, becaus…	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 01:21 AM
2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. Can you quote what the fuck you are talking about instead of acting like a vague asshole? Are you so afraid to be proven wrong that you can't even make it clear what you're even trying to argue about?	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 01:00 AM
1	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. I am sorry, do you feel like I'm implying that you should be ashamed that your fellow students/men are doing this, and that it's your responsibility, as a man, to stop it? Because I'm going to explicitly state, no, that's not what I'm implying. Now that we've established that I'm not acting exactly as he described, I'm going to reveal the real implication I'm trying to hint at: you should be ashamed for having a brain so smooth that can't even understand a razor commercial correctly.	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 12:50 AM
2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. It's insane. They all want to complain about problems, but never want to discuss the reasons the problems exist in the first place. Why are rape allegations against men treated so seriously? One of the reasons are that because on average, men rape and sexually harass more (toxic views on women). Why are women favored more in domestic abuse cases? One of the reasons are that there's a toxic idea that men can't be abused. Why do men commit suicide more? One of the reasons are that toxic ideas of m…	/r/MensRights	22/01/19 12:20 AM
2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. And women also support that as well. It's a fact of life that the appeal of a man drops considerably if they're so emotional that they turn into a mass of blubber. That's true. I'm glad you acknowledge it's a problem, and that toxic masculinity is real. You want to change that, you're going to have to convince women that a highly emotional, low-paid man is attractive. In order to fix a problem, we first need to acknowledge it exists. Everyone on this subreddit seems to believe this is something …	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 11:43 PM
0	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. Yeah, you have a great day as well.	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 10:22 PM
-1	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. I attacked every single argument you had and gave my opinion on why they're invalid. That makes any personal attacks against you NOT ad hominems by definition. You're the one making ad hominems by accusing me of using fallacious debate tactics without addressing a single argument I've said. If you truly wanted to "improve the quality of life of everyone", why are you being outraged at an ad bringing attention towards one of the biggest mens' rights issues there is? Why would you be so fixated on…	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 10:06 PM
2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. Toxic masculinity are behaviours, more associated with men (so masculine), that leads towards bad consequences. Examples of toxic masculinity are the idea that men shouldn't show emotions, that they can't be victims of abuse, that they can answer non-physical problems with violence, and that they should see women as sex objects/conquests instead of other people. Some examples of positive masculine traits are courage, leadership, independence, dependability, honesty and confidence.	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 09:56 PM
2	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. Where did I say most men are toxic?	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 09:44 PM
-5	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. you're never going to change anyone's mind with language like that I'm never going to change anyone's mind because we have different motivations, I want to help raise the quality of life for men, you want to feel like a victim and be outraged at insignificant problems I said I was frustrated because the ad felt condescending. Why would it "feel" condescending to you if you're completely disassociated with the topic? I think that if you feel that men whose lives were ruined by false rape allegati…	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 09:17 PM
-6	For anyone who doesn't see a problem with the Gillette ad. What the fuck is happening here? This entire subreddit is retarded and a huge disservice to mens' rights. If you believe the ad was somehow attacking "masculinity" or was directed at all men, I really don't know what to tell you, you're just dumb as fuck. I watched this ad perfectly fine without feeling personally attacked, because I don't encourage or partake in toxic masculine behaviours. If you feel like the ad was directed at you, you should probably take a critical look at yourself and ask …	/r/MensRights	21/01/19 08:57 PM