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I see your /s but that's an actual argument I've heard before. Many of these industries are less than 5% female.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 01:00 PM
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Ah yes, because it's not like men make up the overwhelming majority of workers in critical infrastructure jobs or anything. It's wild how invisible this work has become to so many people, they just think, electricity, food, indoor plumbing, fuel, and telecommunications signals just appear out of thin air and don't exist purely due to the labor of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 11:34 AM
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I mean, I think it's fair to say most people care to some degree about their potential future partners sexual past. Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior and if you want a healthy relationship, you want someone with compatible behavior patterns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 04:11 PM
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Good point, it should have been probably represented by a single divided vertical bar. Also the graphic makes it look like a decent percentage of men are at the top of society while in reality its probably less than 10%
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 10:01 PM
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First, its important to specify that according to the CDC nearly half of women and 1 in 3 men have experienced some form of contact sexual violence in their lifetime, yes women experienced more contact sexual violence than men but not by much, and men are much less likely to interpret unwanted sexual contact as sexual violence. When it comes to specifically rape the CDC gives difficult to enterpret numbers because they include attempted and completed rape together and don't include "made to pene…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 11:40 AM
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If you can't understand why some people might idolize Musk, Trump, and Tate that's kinda a massive blind spont don't you think? It's pretty clear a lot of people do idolize all three and not even trying to understand that makes our sides arguments weak. How are we supposed to change peoples minds when we don't even know why they hold the beliefs they hold? Maybe we need to take a moment and actually listen to what people on the other side of the aisle are saying instead of just assuming they're …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 08:41 AM
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I think the only appropriate response is "Sorry what did you say? I wasn't listening."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 01:14 AM
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Trump brought up false accusations against men and said somsthing along the lines of "its a scary time to be a young man" once in an interview to my recollection, but ya that's just about the only time he touched on mens issues that I can recall. That said, he has tons of interviews and speeches that you could probably comb through to find other sound bites of him playing some lip service to mens issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/25 08:59 PM
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Not sure I would go that far, thats basically the same argument feminists use to justify misandry. There's plenty of legitimate hatred to go around for both men and women and it's usually not a direct response to anything but rather a response to past traumas. I would caution you against taking being called a misogynist as a compliment, try to just be indifferent to it if you know you genuinely aren't one. Taking something like that as a compliment can put you in a weird negative headspace.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 05:22 PM
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While yes, you're right that some social activism would be good to confront misandry it should be noted that activism is just not a very fun thing to do. Far fewer people are going to want to go to an event focussed on activism than to an event focussed on a hobby or interest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 07:26 PM
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Both can be true at the same time, many societies do ostracize men which is definitely a hurdle but it's also very possible that men socialize differently than women do and its likely a combination of nature and nurture. Not sure where you got that I'm putting hyperagency on men, if anything the fact that society largely doesn't cater to the way men typically prefer to socialize is a pretty big problem that gets in the way of individual men's agency. It's a problem that only men can solve though…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 07:20 PM
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It should be noted that there's a loneliness epidemic in general going on. Both men and women report record levels of loneliness, men's is slightly higher but not by a whole lot. Now why men are more lonely is up for some debate. Some people will say that men are naturally less social and more likely to self-isolate, others will claim the destruction and monitization of third spaces is largely to blame, and others still will make the argument that the feminist movements campaign against men's or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 07:02 PM
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Really your biggest challenge would be getting men to actually go to these organized offline events. Event organizers have been complaining for a while now that it's like pulling teeth to get men to attend events or join groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 06:54 PM
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Strongly disagree. Look at most activity clubs, most are largely self-segregated by gender. Most people, men and women enjoy spending their time with people who share their interests and hobbies and interests are split along gender lines often. There are absolutely men who prefer the company of women just as there are women who prefer the company of men but in my experience they fall into one of two categories. The first is people who have interests that are more typical of the opposite sex, the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 06:40 PM
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Based on the trailer it looks like it's not going to be what you hope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/25 07:06 PM
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I agree with you regarding Peterson, I dissagre with so many of his positions but he clearly cares about the plight of men. That wasn't even the first time he got all choked up when talking about mens struggles and it's very clearly not just a performance. I just can't hate the man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/25 01:57 AM
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Yup, but hopefully this will be a wakeup call to the mainstream left that maybe just maybe treating half the population like shit fir their immutable characteristics isn't a good way to win votes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/25 02:32 AM
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It's easy to be cynical, I will say it's nice that at least someone in a potition of authority is paying lip service to men's issues. The first step to fixing a problem is admitting there is one. Even if we think their solutions are terrible this could potentially open a dialog and make it socially acceptable to admit men have problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/25 02:25 AM
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I love their videos, this is the first one I've seen where the comments section was locked though. Usually they avoid political topics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 07:35 PM
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Unfortunately Bernie is far too cautious. He doesn't want to rock the boat too much by saying or doing anything that would be controversial to his base. It's insane that we've gotten to the point where saying "men aren't evil" is a controversial statement in some circles but such is life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 07:38 AM
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I've noticed the same thing and I think it points to a fundimental issue with how we often address social issues. I notice this being more prevalent with Feminist groups but there is a trend of trying to make a "big tent" kind of movement that adresses everyones problems when multiple smaller more focused movements would better be able to solve issues. I can't tell you how often I see feminist say that the men's advocacy groups have no business existing because feminism is already a movement for…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 11:57 PM
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Well they're almost sorta right but not really. The term was coined by the Mythopoetic men's movement which was around in the 80s and 90s. They weren't a men's rights movement since they attempted to be apolitical but it is true that a men's movement created the term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 07:52 PM
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I see your point but I'm not sure in this case if it really matters. I've been in these circles long enough that I've seen the lables people use to tar anyone who brings up mens issues change a few times now. In my experience it doesn't matter what that label is or how badly a group that identifies with that label behaves, all many people care about is if the ideas being presented to them reinforce their existing beliefs or challenge them. This is a trap we all probably fall into from time to ti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 10:43 PM
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If someone is going to dismiss a valid issue just because a group they dont like recognizes that the issue exists they were just looking fo an excuse to dismiss it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/24 07:36 PM
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Thank you, I vaguely recalled there being punishments for "wife beating" in the 1800s but I couldn't point to specific examples so I chose not to mention it. You've expanded on it way more than that, I appreciate the info, and I'm going to give that link a read.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/24 07:34 PM
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I mean we even clearly took issue with it in the 1910s and 1920s because the primary tool used by the temperance movement to pass prohibition was to say that alcohol made men violent towards their wives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/24 06:40 PM
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In fairness at the time that documentary was made "the red pill" was still being used by a number of groups as a somewhat generic term to describe uncomfortable truths that are often hidden from us. It still is to some degree but most people avoid using it these days because of it's association with pick up artists and the like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 10:38 PM
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A yes, puff pieces are clearly the best way to learn exactly who a person is. Even if they're between takes or off set these people are still at work. Being at work can and often does alter our behavior to some extent. You aren't paring anything down, you're just ignoring what I'm saying, which is this. These people are entertainers and public figures, whenever they're in the public eye with very few exceptions they are infact at work. The work they do and the roll they play is a roll so old it …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 06:02 PM
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Unless you're close friends, or family with any of these guys you don't know how they intereact with the world outside of their job. We've gotten so used to the parasocial relationships we form with entertainers that we've forgotten that we don't actually know these people other than for the moments they're doing their job which is being in the public eye.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 05:50 PM
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I hate to tell you this but the comedian has been a form of traditional masculinity for pretty much all of recorded history. The men you say are the future of masculinity are also it's past, they are in one of the few traditionally acceptable rolls for a man to be in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/24 05:37 PM
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One problem I have is I have too many hobbies and too few vacations to do them all and still meet my social expectations (visiting out of state friends, and family). I have to decide how to spend my limited free time and unfortunately that means putting a lot of stuff I love on the back burner. I think I need to get a new job that has more reasonable hours.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 11:36 PM
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I hope you go, I haven't been skydiving in ages but it's so much fun. I really need to go again one of these days.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 02:00 AM
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I can't say exactly what would have been the best choice but betraying his supporters and accepting blatant cheating in a presidential race wasn't the right one. Plenty of Republicans chose to oppose Trump even after receiving the republican nomination.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 05:26 AM
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Unfortunately Bernie kissed the ring in 2016. When the DNC cheated him out of his nomination, he rolled over and and endorced Hillary inspite of the evidence that leaked showing the DNC was forcing Hillary to the front of the line. I lost a lot of respect for Bernie that day, he used to he one of the only politicians I actually trusted, and I lost all faith in the DNC.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 04:02 AM
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Its probably because outside of gay circles men really aren't rewarded much for working on their looks unless they're extremely attractive. For the most part gay men are very quick to compliment and give praise to other men who put effort into their appearance. Funnily enough this is also kinda the case in certain heterosexual male circles too, gym bros constantly compliment and encourage others. If you want a huge confidence boost as a dude start frequenting and putting in effort at a gym frequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:48 AM
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Your contact length depends on your MOS. For more details you would need to speak with a recruiter to know which MOS's are eligible for a 2 year contract. 4 year contracts are still kinda the standard. Ultimately the length of contract isn't really the most important part though. what's important is to take a realistic view of the job, and the lifestyle that comes with it and ask yourself; is this a good fit for me? During my time in I can't tell you how many people I met or worked with who were…
/r/MenSupportMen24/09/24 12:57 AM
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Most branches require a waver if you're doing a first time enlistment at 32 or older if I recall correctly (could be 35, its been over a decade since I enlisted) . You'll definitely need to be pretty squared away to get a waver but he still has atleast a year before that'd be a problem. The military is not for everyone though, it's a hard life both physically and mentally and once you're in you can't leave until you're contract is up (usually 4 years).
/r/MenSupportMen24/09/24 12:29 AM
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While a bit of an extreme outlyer that did actually happen and he didn't just get the cops called on him, he was criminally convicted for touching her arm while trying to talk to her. Obviously that was outside of the norm because othewise the news story wouldn't have gotten so much attention. Still, I understand why some guys are a bit freaked out by a story like that, people in general are usually more worried about extreme and unusual dangers than more mundane ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:25 PM
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I suspect it's not discussed much because it's been discussed so much in the past and people get tired of beating the same drum over and over again without getting any results. You're right, lack of reproductive rights, and the draft are such obvious mens issues but society at large seems at best indifferent, or at worst openly hostile when the topics are brought up outside of Mens advocacy spaces so I doubt any meaningful positive change is going to happen in the foreseeable future.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 11:10 PM
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That would be fantastic but it's unlikely to happen. Honestly if they even just tried to be the party of the working class again they could win a lot of men back to their side. I know I'm not alone in not having a political home in the US, the republican party is owned by the corporations and the democratic party is owned by the bureaucracy, I vote 3rd party every election but frankly thats just throwing my vote away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 12:55 AM
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I personally try not to censor or quarantine any content I watch or listen to. I watch right wing content, left wing content, and everything in between. That said I make a point to not just take everything I see or hear as gospel, nor do I instantly dismiss everything I hear. Even people with massively different world views to me will occasionally say things that are useful or thought provoking. There's an old saying that I'm probably going to butcher here but be open minded, but not so open min…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 12:22 AM
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China is actually a really interesting situation. Families in China generally wanted sons at least partially because sons were traditionally expected to financially take care of their parents in old age, while daughters were the financial responsibility of their parents until they got married at which point they became their husband's responsibility. Pretty much the only way to retire was either to have a son or become wealthy enough to coast off of your savings. If you're only allowed to have 1…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 12:22 AM
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That's possible, it's honestly impossible to say though since it seems to be pretty universal that the lives and wellbeing of men and boys are valued less than that of women and girls regardless of time period or culture. It seems pretty likely that we're evolved to view men and boys as more disposable and as a result prople empathize with them less.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/24 07:01 PM
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People regardless of gender, and socioeconomic status are typically more comfortable hurting or making mens lives more difficult if they stand to gain something from it. The wealthy elites just use more indirect methods, they're wealthy and have access to enough resources that they no longer need to get their hands dirty. The reason is simple, people of low moral character are indifferent to the suffering they cause, they only care about what they stand to gain or lose. Men and boys on average a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/24 07:11 AM
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Depends on how you define famous or popular. George who made the Tinmen blog has been making the rounds on some pretty big podcasts. He's far from a household name though, and I'm sure there are other examples of similar popularity. I honestly don't expect to see any male advocate regardless of their political leanings gain much popularity. People typically don't care about the plight of men until it effects someone they care about but even then they seldom look beyond their personal experiences…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 12:25 AM
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I don't really think she was suggesting that men should hate women, but was more praising the majority of men for the fact that they don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 03:43 AM
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Thank you for the link. Someone else mentioned it was Nazi propaganda too but its nice having a sorce to back up the assertion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 05:02 AM
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Damn, I'm not surprised but good job finding that tidbit of information. It'd be interesting to take a deep dive through historical records to find the earliest version of this. I wouldn't be surprised if it's even older.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 04:55 AM
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I think debate serves a purpose but I'm not a fan either, probably because I'm not good at it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 04:49 AM
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Agreed, its very effective propaganda. It's simple enough that just about anyone can understand the point being made and difficult to argue against in a way that doesn't require a complex explanation which will often times lose you the debate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 04:44 AM
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I saw it used on various image boards so it was probably old even by that point. It was usually used as a racist talking point back then but I vaguely recall it being directed at men too but that could have been much later. You can even find articles about from 2014 if you search "poisonous M&Ms analogy" in any search engine, many of them specifically about Syrian refugees.. Edit: Looking at this VOX article (take it with a grain of salt since it is vox) they say it originated with the #yesallwo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 04:20 AM
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The M&Ms / skittles analogy is way older than this. I remember people using it back in like 2012. Neither Trump or his team are creative enough to come up with something like this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 04:00 AM
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In my opinion the best way to respond to misandry is to not respond at all. If it's in person I make note of it and endeavor to interact with that person less and if its online I just block that person and move on with my life. It does no good to you or anyone else to get bent out of shape, but it also does you no good to have that kind of negativity in your life. The only time I actually respond is when it's a close friend or family member, I might actually be able to change their way of thinki…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 03:27 AM
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Yes and no, I honestly don't think the majority of people (male or female) are physically able to handle the riggors of modern combat (modern combat loads are insanely heavy). Also wouldn't it kinda be a hollow gesture to have women drafted into admin and support positions while the men are still the only ones getting drafted to go fight? I think the only viable way to fix the problem is by maintaining professional, all volunteer Military, something the US is doing a piss poor job of by paying s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 07:06 AM
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I mean, sure there are Marines, Salors, and Airmen too. But to address the point I think you're trying to make, all military personnel are combatants. There are several famous examples of rear-echelon troops having to take up arms during extreme situations. A notable one that comes to mind was Doris Miller, who was a US Navy cook who took it upon himself to man anti-aircraft guns during the attack on Pearl Harbor. He was awarded the Navy Cross, and was nominated for but ultimately didn't recieve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 03:25 AM
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Interesting, I've heard about the aggressive man hating feminist movements like 4b so I can see why that would make men turn away from feminism at least. What I find interesting though is that men wanting to be freed from their traditional rolls like mandatory military service is considered a "right wing" stance. Right wing typically means conservative and conservatives are typically opposed to change. If I understand the situation correctly, which I might not, it sounds like men in South Korea …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/24 01:43 AM
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Ya, that's definitely an outlier. I imagine if someone actually interviewed some young men from South Korea we could learn why theres such a noticeable trend.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 07:55 PM
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In my opinion the term "toxic masculinity" is a perfect example of a Motte-and-bailey. Since it has multiple meanings in common usage, one mild and easily defensable, and one controversial and difficult to defend. It allows someone to use it in bad faith but then hide behind it's more modest and easily defensable meaning if someone confronts them about it, often saying some trite nonsense like "toxic masculinity hurts men too". Mabe the term once had some utility but now realistically it's just …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 09:20 AM
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Interestingly enough this is a recent trend. Men used to be on average more left than women but the trend started to flip in the 1990s. I think many people over think the reason for this trend flipping, people don't go where they aren't wanted and for the most part dont engage with things that don't benifit them in some way. Left wing groups have been openly hostile to men for a good while now so it makes sense that men would shift away, but if you look at those charts men on average haven't act…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 10:23 PM
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I can't tell you exactlywhat you need to do but you can't just bottle these feelings up if you want the relationship to continue (or even if you don't). Try to find a good time to have a conversation with here when neither of your emotions are high, find a way to explain how the way she talks about men as a group makes you feel but try to phrase it in a way that doesn't feel like an attack. No matter what this'll be a challenging conversation but it's one that clearly needs to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/24 09:07 PM
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https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/sexual-victimization-reported-youth-juvenile-facilities-2018 I was quoting the 2008 report, this one is more recent, rates have gone down from over 10% of boys in juvenile facility being sexually abused to 7.1% the majority of that being by female staff. Edit: heres the 08 report I was origionaly quoting https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/723250-sexual-victimization-in-juvenile-facilities-2008#document/p13
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 09:41 AM
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In the juvenile justice system a shocking number of boys are sexually exploited by detention facility staff and about 92% that exploitation is being done by women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 01:53 AM
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It's too early to really say, this study was a good start and had a decent sample size for a study of this type of 1124 but it's still only one study. Since the very concept that men can be the victims of sexual violence at the hands of women is still not universally accepted, which means it's massively under researched. It'll probably be a very long time before we learn the real extent of female on male sexual violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 12:18 AM
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I see where you're coming from, but I not only don't like the idea of focusing on how men's deaths effect others rather on the death itself (it has a very "women are the primary victims of war" feel to it), I also question its effectiveness since singl, divorced, or widowed men are more likely to commit suicide than partnered men. By focusing on a group that's already less likely to commit suicide I feel like it may actually increase the suicide rate among single men. It kinda sends the message …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 01:50 AM
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If a derigatory description of a group of people based on their race doesn't fit the definition of racism I don't know what does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/24 01:41 PM
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Great example, but there's some irony in the term "white savior complex" since it's in of itself racist. It's applying an extremely negative stereotype to one specific group of people based on the color of their skin, and implying that it's only that group that engages in that behavior. I should clarify that I'm not accusing you of being racist, you pointed out a well established example of exactly what OP was asking about, I just think it's interesting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 09:27 PM
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Shell games referes to the carnival game where an item, usually a ball or a coin is placed under one of at least three identical shells or cups, then the shells or cups are then shifted around and you try to guess which shell the item is under. These games are often rigged and unwinnable because the person shifting the shells around uses slight of hand to remove the item from under the shells entirely. The expression "shell game" is often used to describe a situation where one outcome or goal is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 07:22 PM
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Free speech advocacy is a pendelum in the mainstream. When one side is in power their opposition suddenly starts caring a lot about free speach but when the tables are turned they will crush their oppositions speech. It's always been this way, this is ultimately why I have very little faith in the mainstream of either the left or right. There are still just as many equality-of-opportunity, pro-worker and pro-freedom liberals around as there ever were. It just doesn't seem like that, since the le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 02:15 AM
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I'm sorry to say that wouldn't work, you cant force people to suddenly develop empathy. There are a handfull of cases of guys burning themselves to death on courthouse steps after losing custody of their children but their deaths either achieved nothing or were used as justification to further discriminate against men. Also look to the male suicide epidemic, whenever it's brought up that men kill themselves at nearly 4 times the rate of women everyone instantly responds with the least empathetic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 07:49 PM
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Eh, I would lean more in the direction of indifference than hatred in this particular case. Men bad is more of a the justification for things like the over-incarceration of men (especially black men). Society as a whole doesn't oppose infant MGM because they just don't care about men and boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/23 02:47 AM
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In the US at least there isn't a single state where abortions aren't permitted in cases of rape or incest. There are also safe haven abandonment laws that allow women who have chosen to carry the pregnancy to term but don't want to take on parental responsibilities to drop off the baby. No similar reproductive rights exist for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/23 10:17 PM
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I would argue the only rape culture that could theoretically exist in the west is a female on male one. In the US female rapists can sue their victims for child support, this has been held up in court multiple times and became established case law in the case of Hermesmann V Seyer. Even still calling this a rape culture is a real stretch.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/23 08:49 PM
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Maybe it's just me but I think we would all be better off not labeling ourselves or others as left or right. So few people fall cleanly into those two categories and the few who do I question if they even believe in anything at all or if they just want to be part of a group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/23 12:56 AM
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Not to derail too much from the main topic of the thread, I spend probably an unhealthy amount of time thinking of the nature of evil and I've noticed a really common trend in societies and idioligies that most would reasonably consider evil. Typically they take at least one legitimate but complex issue, assign blame to an easily identifiable out group, and make claims that if their chosen in group was only in total power and free from the influence of said out group everything would be resolved…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/23 12:33 AM
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Female supremacy is in vogue right now, just like white supremacy was once in vogue. You're right there are a lot of similarities in the language used, and I would argue this stemms from the fact that they come from more or less the same place; a desire to feel superior for something that isn't earned, and often a feeling of resentment towards an out group for their comparative successes. Both groups like to claim that they're being held back or oppressed by their chosen outgroup and will have n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 11:29 PM
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Fun fact, a 2019 study found that historically queens were 38.8% more likely to start a war than kings. Women in positions of power are absolutely as militant if not more so than men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 07:24 PM
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That's a fairly accurate description of what happened, the Mythopoetic Men's Movement was a new age men's liberation group of sorts from the 1980s and 90s. I have pretty much nothing good to say about them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 04:59 AM
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That's not entirely true, the term Toxic Masculinity was coined by the Mythopoetic Men's Movement to describe negative stereotypical male behaviors. Unfortunately the Mythopoetic Men's movement weren't very far sighted since they didn't see the potential that the phrase they coined could be used as a metaphorical cudgel to beat men over the heads with while hiding behind the claim that "MRAs coined the term so men can't complain about it". It's dissapointing how often the mens movement's of the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 04:12 AM
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It should be, what shocks me is how few people are outraged by or have even heard of Hermesmann V Seyer and the wide sweeping precedent it established.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/23 03:02 AM
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In the US even if a man or boy doesn't consent or is incapable of consenting he can still be forced to take on parental responsibilities mostly in the form of child support paid to his rapist. This was established by Hermesmann v Seyer in Kansas, but this has been cited in several states as a reason for male victims of statutory rape to still be required to pay child support to their rapist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 10:18 AM
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I actually never knew that, thanks for the info. It's always funny how often expressions get bastardized to the point where they mean precisely the opposite of their origional intent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 04:17 AM
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I would argue men supported eachother more in the past and still do to some extent in small specific communities, so the evolutionary psychology explanation kinda fall short for me. Unfortunately those communities are becoming more rare as time goes on, one such community is the military. The suicide rate for veterans is shockingly high and I can guarantee it would be even higher if veterans didn't have the close friendships they forned while in service. Military service is still a majority male…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 10:42 PM
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I'm probably not exactly who you're directing this question towards since I don't vote along party lines when I do vote, but I'll take a wack at answering it. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of getting to vote for people who perfectly represent us, and regardless of whether they're right or left wing no politicians seem to be running on a pro male platform, or have pushed through any pro male legislation. We have to chose between the mainstream left which is openly hostile to men at times…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/23 11:59 PM
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That's a really good point, I never thought of it like that. If someone doesn't value moral consistency they will feel no obligation to implement it in their own life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/23 07:51 PM
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In my experience people use post-hoc rationalizations to justify their actions and emotions regardless of if they align to their stated beliefs or not. Many people who claim to be against racism will engage in racist actions but then make up ridiculous excuses as to why they engaged in that behavior. In reality a lot of people don't actually believe anything and just hold to these belief structures when it's convenient or when it benefits them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/23 08:14 PM
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Fun fact, did you know originally pink was a boys color and this was the case well into the early 1900s? Red was considered a masculine color, and pink being a lightened, and therefore softer version of red was somewhat reserved for boys. If I recall the reason for the flip was due to the early women's rights movement who took to wearing pink as a means to symbolically seize male power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 07:48 PM
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Wanna know something else messed up about South Koreas military? If a woman decides to volunteer for military service she is automatically promoted to an NCO and given higher pay than men with the same time in service.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/23 08:56 PM
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