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Considering I've seen about three posts on this board in the last few days about how upset men are that they're assumed rapists, I just can't take you seriously, dude. Women are told to look out for themselves, to just use common sense, and common sense would dictate that hey, you should be on guard. And that's what women are told, all the time, by posters and advertisements and politicians- because one in five women will be raped or sexually assaulted in her lifetime. That's a shit ton of women…
/r/MensRights22/08/12 01:45 AM
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So Aryo: Should women be perpetually on guard in order to prevent getting raped, or should they never expect any man to rape her because that's discriminating? Just curious on how you think we should solve that little circle, there. Because it kind of can't be one or the other.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 01:27 AM
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Actually a rapist can't stop rape, because in order to become a rapist, you have to rape someone first. Ergo, men can stop rape, because they haven't raped anyone yet, and are not yet rapists.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 01:13 AM
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Yep, I just think all men are evil and should die. Have fun battering your straw feminist there, bub. Here's some facts! On Donahue, Mike Angelucci of the National Coalition of Free Men argued that “male judges and male politicians” discriminate against men. One of his supporting examples struck me, because I’ve heard this meme passed around anti-feminist discussions so often: “That’s why our government spends four times more on breast cancer research than prostate cancer research, even though t…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 09:56 PM
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Great to see you didn't have a legitimate argument against my point. You know if men were like, being utterly ignored by insurance companies or needed specialized man-only health care and it wasn't being offered or covered at all, that'd be one thing. But the things the poster is complaining about have literally nothing to do with health care, Obamacare or insurance coverage. Suicide, workplace accidents and homelessness are entirely separate issues, and I've never heard of Obama taking away sui…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:06 PM
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You know, I'd be fine with that too, because I get the whole 'I don't want to pay so other people can have sex' thing, but honestly? I don't want to pay more on my insurance to cover my coworkers having unwanted babies. Babies are a hundred times more expensive than giving someone BC, the cost of giving a birth alone, no bells and whistles, no complications, and no after care is around 11k-15k right now. And that's not even thinking about the doctors visits for the 9 months beforehand, all the e…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:53 PM
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Trust me, I get why the MRA community feels that the child support system is unfair. What I don't get is why they would be against Birth Control in any regard. The leap is more of a slight step. Cheap or Free Birth control > No unwanted kids > No men who have kids they don't want. See? Easy!
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:41 PM
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Okay, I have a big problem with your assumption that women don't buy condoms, dude. Come on, all my female friends who are heterosexual and active have bought condoms, and keep them on hand. Birth Control doesn't protect against STD's, any woman dumb enough to have unprotected sex is about as dumb as a bag of hammers, and it's up to both parties to protect themselves and be both STD and child free. Also, you can get free condoms at Planned Parenthood and a ton of other places; you don't actually…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:56 AM
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Sorry, you're right. Child support will have to be paid to whoever the child is living with and whoever is supporting the child, that's how it works. I shouldn't have used gender specific pronouns there. It's just something I see a lot on the MRA board, men talk about how it's unfair to have to pay for children that they didn't want, which makes me think they should be all over giving women cheap/free/legal access to all forms of birth control and abortion- after all, it would make fewer unwante…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:39 AM
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But I just listed a bunch of medical uses for it that aren't related to sex at all? Along with statistics that show over half of women in the US that use birth control do it for reasons other than for preventing pregnancy. Are you... Just willfully ignoring what I wrote? I don't see how your reasoning is working, here.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:28 AM
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Well when over half of women who are prescribed BC for medical reasons other than preventing pregnancy, that seems pretty legit to me. Also, why? You assume that women don't buy condoms, either, but all my female friends keep them on hand in their purses or apartments, too. Women buy condoms as well as men. Plus, wouldn't you be upset if you slept with a woman and she got pregnant and made you pay child support for a kid you didn't want or expect? Rather than thinking about it like you're paying…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:18 AM
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So what 'free services' should Obama be making in order to fix men's suicide, workplace accidents and homelessness? Because that's what the poster is quoting as bad things that men are facing, and... Those don't seem to be medical issues... Maybe try the suicide prevention hotline, federal workplace safety regulations and then actually not freaking out when tax dollars go towards things like welfare and homeless programs?
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:08 AM
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Birth control is actually used for a lot of things, treating a variety of things. You should read up on it before forming an opinion. Endometriosis which causes scarring inside you, polycistic ovarian syndrome, just off the top of my head. Also a lot of younger women have very bad periods, I know that when I was in high school through college (span of about 10 years) my periods were so bad I would literally vomit and be in such pain I couldn't move for a whole day, plus feeling pretty shitty a f…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:58 AM
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But then it's a woman's fault when she gets raped because she wasn't being vigilant enough?
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:42 AM
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Mm, I see where you're going. My experience is that both parents in those situations tend to waste the money and not spend jack all on the kid, but I can see both how it would be an improvement and how spouses would use it to really slow things down or fuck things up out of spite. Anyone could make a claim, and you'd have to be UTLRA organized in order to save receipts or get food stamps, it would be a huge hassle for anyone to use that kind of a system. If it was a card like a debit card, less …
/r/MensRights06/08/12 09:32 PM
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I'm not looking for holes, I'm just trying to be realistic. You say you work 40 hours a week plus have a 4 hour commute. Plus drills on top of that. You say you have little to no help, but then your oldest looks out for your younger kids. That's help. Your family watches them from time to time, that's help. You say you went through college and the job field while working and doing 'the family thing'- was that with no help? You had a brand new baby, I assume since you had 3 kids total that you ha…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 09:27 PM
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I think that's a good idea, actually, like if you had to fill out a pre nup when you went to get your marriage license. It would hopefully be managed and added to over the years, like a will, but it would make things a lot less messy. Honestly I think a lot of people who go into marriage aren't thinking about a possible split, and men would automatically get upset that they have to pay anything in alimony or child support, as that seems to be the reaction I've heard. It would be good if a couple…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 09:23 PM
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The idea is that they already GOT their something. They GOT free childcare, house care, meals prepared for them, errands done, their home life and children have been cared for all these years. So they already got their part of the deal. It doesn't make sense to say 'Well you got to stay home and I had to work therefore you should get nothing' because typically the person staying at home is doing all to a large percentage of the housework or childrearing and the person at work is climbing the wor…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 09:19 PM
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It sounds like you get a lot of help from your eldest / family- Honestly, there's just been a few comments on here that say 'Well she made the CHOICE to stay at home and get free rent and food and support, therefore she deserves nothing when we get a divorce' and I just can't abide by that, honestly. I don't agree with any of those bullet points you made either, because I know that they are not true even if they can be generalizations. What baffles me is when people think that there should be no…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 08:23 PM
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Okay, so if he 'gets the house' then wouldn't the deed and mortgage be transferred into his name during the divorce proceedings? Wouldn't that make him the sole person responsible for paying it? A person is only responsible for the debts that would be put only into their names, so in this scenario, in order to be responsible for the house she would have to have the mortgage in her name only, or, jointed together, and then if it's given to him, it would be his responsibility. If you leave an apar…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 07:32 PM
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So who takes care of your kids during those hours? Do you pay someone to do it? What kind of meals do they eat? Do you really spend 4 hours commuting every day after a full work week, go home and cook a meal for your kids, pack their lunches and manage to make them breakfast too? Do you have full custody of the kids, or do they spend half their time with someone else? Because hey, I cared for my grandfather and little sister and worked a full time job and was in a graduate program, I know what i…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 07:16 PM
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Uh, yeah, the woman SHOULD pay him. I said man or woman, and I meant it. Do you really think that I only expect alimony to go to women? That would be absurd. Alimony is a tool to help spouses who have worked hard at home to support their working spouse get back on their feet. So let's take your example- She's making 85k a year, and say he's going to school and working part time, so he makes 20k a year. 30% of her gross would be $25,500, and 20% of his gross would be $4,000. That leaves him with …
/r/MensRights06/08/12 07:09 PM
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IDK, you don't see the difference between trying to kill someone specific that you had an argument versus strangers? Seems like a pretty big difference to me.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:56 PM
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Maybe if you included some reliable sources for your 2%-50% numbers you'd get more support. I'd be curious as to where you got those numbers, too.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:54 PM
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Basically, if you're saying it was the woman's choice to stick around for that long and deserves nothing afterwards, then she should have all the choices to leave before then. She should have choices to not start a family, and the man should have no involvement in that choice because hey, she's getting the sore end of the stick when their relationship ends, but it was her choice to stick around that long. You can't really have it both ways on this one.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:51 PM
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Actually it's totally relevant. If a woman is making the choice to stick around for 20 years, then she should also have the choice to get rid of any accidental or unwanted pregnancies that may occur before she decides to stick around for that long. Considering that over half of pregnancies in the US are unplanned, I'd say it's a fair estimate that a lot of people weren't really planning on settling down and having the family life, but got pregnant and figured that they were going to do so. So, i…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:48 PM
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So do you fully support a woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion no matter the situation?
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:19 PM
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Well, I'm not sure that I agree. I work to support myself and my spouse, and my spouse will probably forgo getting a 'real job' to help me with my business after they're done getting their graduate degree. While my spouse would be far better off supporting themselves (compared to most people without a college education) if we decided to split, I would see those years invested in helping me were taking away from valuable years of work experience, savings and money earning positions, too. Also the…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:17 PM
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So what happens when the parents disagree over the brand of item being purchased, like one parent is a cheapskate and is bitter about the other getting custody, so they insist on buying the most generic cheap ass brand of everything? Also what about food? Because kids need to eat, and you're going to have to buy groceries for them- it's not like both parents are going to have a separate 'kid fridge' for the groceries they bought with the joint wishlist/account and then a fridge for themselves th…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 04:58 PM
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You don't see anything wrong with the stay at home spouse spending 18 or more years caring for someone and their children and then being given the boot? They spent all that time not pursuing a higher education, not getting promoted at work, not climbing the workplace ladder or anything and they're going to have to start at square 1- That seems pretty damn unfair to me, man or woman. And men get alimony these days too.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 04:38 PM
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Sounds to me like she was trying to kill a specific person or specific group of people that she'd had an argument or fight with earlier. Still insane, but that's pretty different than walking into a temple and shooting up strangers, IMO.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 04:33 PM
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I'm pretty sure that 1 in 5 women aren't hit by a car in her lifetime.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:11 AM
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It's nice to see someone admit that they kind of understand what the tattoo is about.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:09 AM
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