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DiscussionSame_Swordfish2202/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:37 AM
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how can you work on having a shaper jawline or being taller? Personality doesn't matter to women. Or are you saying you would date a bald albino 4'8 guy with muscular dystrophy as long as he was really nice and funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:52 AM
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who said they're not putting effort in or that it's a choice? Most things women care about are genetic, meaning that if you're an unattractive man there's not much you can do to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:02 PM
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why not? And before "yOu wOnT dIe", people who don't have a relationship literally die younger. So that's not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:51 PM
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so? that is not gendered. Marital rape makes men sex slaves just as much as women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:03 PM
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read the post you're commenting on. It disproves this exact argument you're making
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:01 PM
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if even a single woman actually gave working advice, every incel would follow it and get a girlfriend. The fact that incels exists proves working advice doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:09 PM
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personal lived experience
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:43 AM

women consume romantic entertainment but then when they actually meet a good man who wants romance they reject it. Whereas men tend to not consume as much romantic content but will pursue it in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:14 PM

i think the main issue is men nowadays want loving long-term serious relationships. While women only want short term toxic relationships. Like yeah if you only use your autonomy to choose bad options and then complain about the results, people will criticize you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:09 PM

then why don't women ever say WHAT makes a man good by their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:05 PM

straight women are attracted to men. Straight men are not attracted to other men🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:04 PM

tell men what they need to improve on instead of a vague "just improoove bro". So many men already are athletic, wealthy, social, nice, and still get zero attention from women, so general improvement doesn't work. What specifically makes men attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:01 PM

Most men's dating problems are around men wanting loving, long term relationships while women nowadays no longer want that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:57 PM

no because that rarely happens. How many women can put a full decade of full-time work into self improvement and dating, and still not find 1 man willing to have sex with them once? Not many, I assume
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:55 PM

that's not true. Most men just want women to be honest about what they want in a partner, so we can become that. But women just keep giving bullshit advice that doesn't work. Imagine if companies said they wanted someone with degree X for a position, but then you arrive and the interview and they said: actually, we're looking for a secret other degree. We won't tell you which, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:53 PM

Again you're downplaying the issues that men face. "he was just rejected, big deal". It doesn't seem like a big deal to you because you're a woman and women have more options. It's like if a poor person gets fired, and then a millionaire comes in: "who cares? just live off of your savings a bit until another company hires you as CEO. If you're really short on cash just sell your yacht."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:50 PM
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what the fuck are you talking about. You are just proving the point of the post. You are the first person here to use the word "entitled", literally no one said they were
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:46 PM

again people downplaying the problems that men face It's not "having your ego bruised", it's "severe psychological damage after a lifetime of rejection and hostile interactions". A lot of lonely men would rather have a relationship with an abusive woman than none at all, so you can compare them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:45 PM
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Ukranians in the Holodomor complain about.... nothing! The USSR didn't support them, didn't send them food, didn't feed them. They complain that the USSR did nothing. Would you say being put in solitary confinement is not bad because it's "nothing"? This is such a weird argument. People doing nothing can often be just as harmful as them doing something bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:41 PM
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you're right, all women love a bald skinny 5'2 indian guy with glasses and acne. As long as he doesn't smell, that guy could be a model! /s The only standard for women is to not be extremely fat. Meanwhile men have to be extremely muscular (often requiring steroids), get a haircut every 2 weeks, have perfect skincare, be tall, have hair, etc. A lot of these things are not even in your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:56 PM
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that doesn't happen. It's just that since beauty standards for men are so much higher, the average man is seen as unattractive and the average woman as attractive. So those "unattractive men" rejecting "attractive women" is just average men rejecting average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:34 PM
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yeah because unattractive men are basically invisible to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:23 PM
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lots of good men want women of similar attentiveness as them and are willing to put a lot of work into a relationship, and yet women still don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:19 PM
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still gives him an unusually large frame and broad shoulders, giving him a "strong" look Put his physique on a 5'4 guy with narrow shoulders and he's just gonna look chubby
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:37 PM

How would you explain all the men that are genuinely good people that would care about their partners but they still can't get a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:45 AM

Him having an "attractive" body is mostly just him being like 6'8. If you put his physique on a 5'6 guy with narrow shoulders, suddenly most women would no longer find it an attractive body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:32 AM
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This guy doesn't exist. If he lacks social skills there's no way he has 30K insta followers. To be fair, charisma on stage is something different from having actual social skills. I myself work in entertainment and I know people that when the camera goes on are extremely charismatic and funny, but then behind the scenes they're borderline austistic. I myself used to be like that before I went to uni. I was doing standup comedy and doing public speeches but I had trouble making small talk. "Chari…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:28 AM
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Maybe this is a cultural difference but in my country I have never seen a "study group" in real life. In uni people just studied by themselves, or maybe they'd coincidentally be together after class and so they'd go to the library together. But actual organized study groups where people meet up at a certain time to study seems unlikely to me. And for a marathon training together is a lot less efficient than training alone, as you will never be able to run at your own optimal pace. One of the two…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:57 PM
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Yeah I don't know what he's talking about with the marathon thing. "Going outside and running 20 miles in a forest requires tons of social skills bro. Running alone in solitude for hours on end is the most social activity there is." I will say running improved my social skills and life in general, but that's just because running for so long you'll have nothing else to do but think about your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:54 PM
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Then how do you explain gymcels? There are legit bodybuilders that squat 400lbs and look like they just walked away from a Mr Olympia that still struggle with talking to people. Going to the gym for me has basically never resulted in interacting with people. At the very most I will ask someone if they're done using a machine, and that's it. I just go to the gym, do the excercises I want to do, and leave. What part of that is social? And a lot of people, especially in tech, can slide into some no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:51 PM
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How do they require social skills? Anyone can go outside and run for a few hours. I've run marathons and I don't think I've said a single word while training for them or doing them. You train on your own, buy the ticket online, go there, and run. Going to the gym requires zero social skills, maybe you have to say a few words to buy the subscription (if that isn't online nowadays). Being well groomed can be learned from YouTube videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:09 PM
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I think you are overestimating how much time is needed for fitness. Squatting 250lbs and having a sixpack can easily be reached with 3 1-hour sessions a week. Once you can run marathons, maintaining it can be done with 1 weekly run of let's say 2 or 3 hours. I personally run marathons and even after not running for a year, I can just start training like 2 months before a marathon and get back into shape. So all of this means he's spending maybe 10 hours a week on fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:30 PM
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No one ever uses that logic for other things. "Car crashes are bad" "Well only 2% of car trips end in a crash😬 So really it's not a big problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:01 PM
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No, it's loneliness. As much as people here like to pretend it is, having a partner is different from having a friend. No amount of talking to your colleagues during lunch break can replace being married and you're delusional if you think it can. And no one said anything about "obligations"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:46 AM
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100% of false accusations are false accusations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:40 AM
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What if they are genuinely good men who want to wait to have sex until marriage, but no woman wants that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:07 AM
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then how do you explain why so many genuinely good men still are virgins/never have had a relationship at like 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:50 AM
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So 6 partners. Assuming the average guy starts having sex at 20 and dies at 80, they can find someone to have sex with once every 10 years. That's basically nothing. Imagine you start dating at 20 and you don't have sex until 30. That's a long time, and yet I'm still puts you on track to hit that 6 number
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:47 AM
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Even with a lot of research into "biology", I doubt there's many virgins that are good at sex the first time they do it. So if an average guy can get 1 woman every year to have sex, and it takes having sex 10 times to become good, that's still 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:43 AM
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This is just pure just world fallacy. No different from saying if you're poor it's your own fault and you should just pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:16 PM
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You still are not getting it, maybe due to poor reading comprehension. I am talking about the subjective experience of wealth inequality. That exists. If there existed no subjective experience of wealth inequality, we would not even know it exists. Everything in life exists through experience. The subjective feeling of trying your best but still remaining poor is similar to the subjective feeling of trying your best but still not being able to get a date. The fact that the underlying conditions …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:14 PM
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You seem to misunderstand the point of the comparison. It's not about exploitation or whatever, it's about subjective experience and power dynamics. Generally, men have to work really hard to get any type of relationship or dating experience. Women will never truly understand this, but it can take an average guy hundreds if not thousands of hours of work to get even a single relationship with an average woman. Personally, it took me 6 months of daily usage of Tinder (+ a premium subscription) to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:25 PM
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If they are right on the minimum height you'd date, if they tell the truth you'd assume they're below it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:41 PM
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Men not getting the level of women they want is not "wealth inequality." Sorry but are you like legitimately 12 years old? You learn what an analogy is in middle school generally What exactly is "unfair" about dating? If someone else can date and I can't with the same level of effort, that's by definition unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:26 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:07 AM
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this just seems like a rich person saying "wealth inequality isn't the problem, poor people getting angry is." Like yeah in a perfect society things could be unfair and those disadvantaged by it would still never resort to violence. But the truth is that if people feel fucked over by society they are sometimes going to cause trouble, and you can't stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:50 AM

If I go on a dating app and get no dates Then it by definition does not work. A dating app needs to lead to dates. If the majority of users can not get dates from a dating app, it doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:45 AM
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So what if you reach the end of school and in all the time from primary school to your PhD you haven't managed to attract even 1 person? Do you start a second degree or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:41 AM
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But in another comment you were saying men lying about their height is bad? So if they lie they don't get a date, but if they tell the truth they also won't. What do you expect them to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:37 AM
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Let me ask you this. Do you think incels murdering women is a problem? Because the past decade has made it clear that if it's made impossible for normal average men to get any type of relationship or sex, a small minority of them will turn violent. So that's why dating being impossible for normal men is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:29 AM
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nowadays that's probably the most difficult age to get girls
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:15 PM
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so how do you explain all the non abusive men that are actual good people that have still never had a girlfriend at like 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:29 PM
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then how do you explain all the men that listen to women's advice and still end up virgins in their 30s or 40s?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:33 AM
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so how would you explain the existence of actually good men that are still virgins at like 40 because no woman wants them?
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:48 PM

I know tons of people (me included) that have done all of that and still can't get a single date. So clearly that doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:29 PM
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