SandorSadEyes Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
33	An Update from a former MRP/TRPer		SandorSadEyes	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 04:46 PM
20	A long post I hope helps		SandorSadEyes	/r/ExRedPill	14/07/19 03:45 PM

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1	An Update from a former MRP/TRPer This is a great point. Its like if you're trying to get out of the crab barrel you're still rubbing shoulders with crabs...until you're free. I picked up some very unhealthy behaviors as coping mechanisms because of the abuse. Therapy has helped tremendously as well boosk like Out of the Fog. One of the more frustrating realizations I've had to deal with is a sense of unfairness that not only was I broken down and hated myself and life, I also picked up these "fleas" in the process. So not only …	/r/ExRedPill	10/06/20 11:51 AM
2	An Update from a former MRP/TRPer I think if you read my first post (again, sorry for the absence of the link) you'll get a better idea of why I have that feeling. HOWEVER, it was clear to me early on that some of what TRP, and even MRP, advocates ranges from just unhealthy behavior to absolutely abusive (usually covert/emotional abuse). In my situation and with my ex wife, a lot of the things I learned from MRP are also taught as techniques to use or prevent against abuse- lots of what's outlined in "When I say No I Feel Guilty…	/r/ExRedPill	10/06/20 11:42 AM
1	An Update from a former MRP/TRPer I just read through the Wiki article and under the "In Practice" section it is stated that the technique was intended to undermine self-confidence as self-esteem as well as inducing a personal crises. Reading that gave me chills, absolutely what I experienced with my ex wife. Crazy how a government needs to research and hone this technique, with conscious effort and training, while there are plenty of people out there who operate like this consistently and in a "Natural state".	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 06:16 PM
2	An Update from a former MRP/TRPer Gaslighting is really common for a lot of people, and just because someone does it doesn't mean they're Hannibal Lecter but it SHOULD be a huge Red Flag. Most people react to gaslighting with an internal dialogue that's questioning if you said what you said, if you meant what you said or if you maybe mispoke, or if you in fact have some kind of problem. The book coins this "crazy making behavior" and in all truth you WILL feel like a crazy person the more you're exposed to gaslighting. So if you…	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 05:42 PM
4	An Update from a former MRP/TRPer Honestly I think its a book everyone needs to read once. Emotional abuse, toxic behavior and personality disorders are much more common than anyone thinks. If you haven't experienced it, or maybe aren't in close enough contact with an abusive person that it doesn't effect your life greatly I can guarantee you have a friend, family member or coworker who needs this book. I absolutely recommend it to get an idea of what legitimate abusive behavior looks/sounds like as well as learning some practic…	/r/ExRedPill	05/06/20 05:28 PM
1	A long post I hope helps Part of my issue is probably just selection bias. I was raised in a rural county who's middle and upper-middle class families relied heavily on the auto industry for good jobs. I now live in an even more rural county that is fairly low-income. Its just uncommon to meet anyone around me, let alone in my peer group, knocking down 6 figures. However I work in a pretty upscale county and I have a few friends who live in that area and its definitely more plausible that there a lot of 30 year-olds who…	/r/ExRedPill	16/07/19 08:23 AM
2	A long post I hope helps Don't get me wrong, I'm no saint. I have definitely contributed to the breakdown of my marriage. The difference is, I've taken responsibility for my actions, I've gotten help, I've tried to be better. Other than becoming a a mother my wife has remained stagnant in every way for our entire marriage. I will be filing for divorce. The only question on the table now is if I should try for sole custody of my kids. I want her to be a part of their lives, and she loves them, but I can't let her make th…	/r/ExRedPill	15/07/19 05:33 PM
1	A long post I hope helps This is correct. Red Pill is one thing- sexual dynamics (whatever that means...) It is all about getting laid "like tile", as I think Rollo puts it. MRP is better, but only marginally so. I found the most helpful material for me, personally, was "No More Mr. Nice Guy", "When I Say No I Feel Guilty" and the "Married Man's Sex Primer"- all of which I find to be much less militant and less misogyinistic than "Rational Male" and other sidebar materials.	/r/ExRedPill	15/07/19 03:37 PM
2	A long post I hope helps You're right, the leadership aspect is a main point in MRP. It was actually the part I was most excited to work on, next to getting back in shape. Most of my married life my wife called the shots and made the decisions. I have always managed our finances, but she tried on several occasions to relieve me of that. The issue with my wife is that her way is always the right way. I don't mean sometimes, I absolutely mean every. single. time. It doesn't matter what the issue is- something small like…	/r/ExRedPill	15/07/19 03:30 PM
2	A long post I hope helps You're right. RP might get you laid a lot or get you SO to initiate more, but what sort of person is it you're with that responds to direct and indirect manipulation, "dread games", and STFU-ing? Is this a healthy, well-adjusted adult you're with? Probably not, and in your case it sounds like your partner had the self-esteem and awareness to say No, this isn't ok and here's my expectations. Totally reasonable. When stripped of the positive self-improvement aspects, RP becomes an excuse for grown…	/r/ExRedPill	15/07/19 02:05 PM
1	A long post I hope helps Its funny you use Dan Bilzerian as an example, he's exactly who I think of when I read some FRs and OYS threads. I just finished listening to Arnold Schwarzenegger's autobiography and its obvious he was a very focused, driven person who gave (and made) himself every opportunity to be successful. That takes a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of dedication. Most people I know can't even maintain a fitness or diet routine or a financial plan let alone set themselves up for years worth of grinding …	/r/ExRedPill	15/07/19 01:59 PM
3	A long post I hope helps My wife definitely has some complicated issues stemming from past trauma, an abusive long-term relationship, as well as a very strict religious upbringing. She needs help. I absolutely agree with you, and one of the Red Flags I watch for when investigating anything is the all/nothing or us/them mentality. That kind of thinking never leads anywhere positive or constructive. As you said, we aren't as different as RP advocates would make it out, and that's a fact I know from first-hand experience a…	/r/ExRedPill	14/07/19 04:58 PM