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Lol in Rome and Greece men were doing 'other' things with men too, frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:44 PM
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My greater point was that meaningful, platonic friendships are being called "homoromantic" for whatever reason and it's silly. I may have worded it poorly. What i was trying to extrapolate with heated rivalry was that if men were are truly looking for and experiencing "non sexual" romantic relationships with each other the show would be at least somewhat popular with that demographic. OP's thesis here blurs the lines and more or less writes off meaningful platonic relationships within one's sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:14 PM
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It is the implication of the post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:17 PM
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It is absolute nonsense lol. It creates a ridiculous binary. Is my bond with my brother romantic in nature? Is my bond with my sister sexual in nature? How about my parents? Obviously not lol. Why would it be different for my closest platonic male friend whom I've been friends with for 25+ years? It's pseudo intellectual nonsense for some women who are looking to justify why they struggle to have platonic relationships that aren't completely superficial and codependent people in relationships wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:09 PM
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You could also turn heated rivalry against his point for the men as well. If we had a general longing for "deep, meaningful connections" with other men, wouldn't we be able to deal with the sexual aspect for the "romantic" plot? The general audience of that show isn't straight men or hockey fans lol. The entire premise of the sexual/romantic binary requires an insane amount of mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:59 PM
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Because "homoromantic" is a nonsense term used to borderline demonize close platonic friendships. It's not accurate at all lmao. It's intentionally loaded language.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:44 PM
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The whole premise is pseudo-intellectual nonsense pushed by people (i typically see women, but I'll assume it cuts both ways) on Twitter that are codependent on their significant other and don't understand why said SO wants to hang out with their friends. "Homoromantic" is explicitly loaded language to make it seem that close platonic friendships are "abnormal" and therefore must have some underlying romantic tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:39 PM
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"Homoromantic" is just a way to borderline demonize platonic friendships in 2026. The entire premise is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:35 PM
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Largely depends on the date. For whatever reason there's a movement against low key coffee dates or casual dining. I wouldn't want to drop triple digit per head bills on somebody I've never even met. The "biological burden" stuff is irrelevant to a first date. Also, do you think men don't use expensive soaps, hair care, or skincare products in 2026? That they don't put on nicer outfits and expensive colognes? And often pick up their dates in cars that cost tens of thousands of dollars? I'm fine …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:46 PM
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Then the at risk population had best get their shots. I take no issue with private entities enforcing rules or even things like mask mandates, but I do not believe in forcing people to put things into their bodies. Though the people who refused also have to deal with personal consequences, like masks in public places and social stigma. Body autonomy is absolute for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:36 AM
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While there is absolutely a difference in severity there, the principle is still body autonomy. When taken to extremes like you have in reverse it's "don't take an experimental shot with potential side effects" vs "some women have to be with unappealing men so that society doesn't collapse under falling birth rates" (I agree with your stances tbf, but when discussing principles I don't think anybody should be forced to do anything ETA: with regards to what goes into their own body).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:25 AM
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Men who have any level of confidence don't "size each other up" once they get out of their teenage years. Being cautious and able to assess threats is far different. The fact of the matter is most men aren't a threat to anybody lol. Eventually you grow up and realize that if you're moderately intelligent and personable your mouth and wit can solve any issue you think you need for fists for. If you're over the age of 21 and looking to fist fight everybody you meet and are obsessed with how tough …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:10 PM
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"Woke" won't come back because any time something good is actually kinda woke (BG3 for example) the "anti-woke" people move goalposts, change definitions, and bend over backwards in general to show how it isn't REALLY woke. Woke will 100% come back. It is quite literally just a buzzword these days describing political correctness, which fluctuates in its prevalence all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:28 PM
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I'm truthfully not sure why guys in here are getting so twisted up. She's damn near affirming some red pill talking points lol. Yeah man faking aspects of your personality sucks, being fashion conscious seems stupid, but it's the cost of doing business lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:10 PM
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Brother Fox News dismisses themselves as entertainment and have argued in court that no sensible person would take them seriously lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:18 AM
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No it isn't, at it's core red pill was a mix of generic self help and 00s pick up artistry. Noticing trends in the sexes that are almost always surface level that pretty much always are viewed through the lens of getting laid isn't any real understanding of dynamics, it's trying to turn getting laid into a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:21 PM
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It's just a string of unrelated buzzwords lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:10 PM
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Tbf, gen Z men are more reactionary and socially conservative than their predecessors, as evidenced by voting trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:56 PM
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TRP is closer to FDS than 2X though. And nobody liked FDS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:27 PM
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That's not really the case man. Most men have casual encounters over their lives. Unfortunately you're the outlier. I also thought the topic of conversation was sex in general, not sex with people you deem out of your league. With regards to your analogy, the homeless man more often than not would sleep on a couch in a shitty apartment. Just another reason it's dumb lol. That said I sincerely hope you find someone, be it an attractive casual fwb or a girlfriend if you desire more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:25 PM
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You too can have sex in abundance if you're willing to sleep with any gross person that comes across your path. Women do clean up on dating apps if they choose to sleep with anybody and everybody. Men might not clean up on apps, but go to a dive bar with no standards and I bet you can pick up a barfly, I just know for a fact most of us don't want to. The billionaire to homeless analogy is extreme hyperbole at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:04 PM
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No I get what the analogy is trying to say. I'm saying it's a stupid analogy. Getting laid always requires work, just less for women in general lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:46 PM
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Are you comparing having to put in more work to get laid to homelessness? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:05 PM
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You're hurting your own argument by getting emotional and flying off the handle. Not to mention the ridiculous trans comment. Stick to facts my friend, it'll help you in the long run. Not to mention having too much to drink shouldn't be a sentence to getting assaulted. If I got assaulted every time I got blacked out when I was younger I would have some serious problems lol. Sure it's happened a couple times and I took it as a learning experience, but that doesn't make it right, or my mindset abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:59 PM
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Tbf this right here reads like projection, he brought sources to the debate and refuted some of your points. You're just as insulated as him, just appear to not have any data to back you up. I'm typically only here for discourse because each gender obviously faces their own unique challenges the others can't relate to, but you're hand waving legitimate arguments because you're attributing a "dislike of women" to the poster. Just an ad hom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:30 PM
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Again at no point do any statistics you're rattling off point to a majority. 15%ish on reporting no friends and the same for living alone. Those are not the majority. Significant minority isn't the majority. You can "feel lonely" even if you have friends and a social circle. It's not a zero sum game. I haven't seen you post anything that backs up your statement that a majority of men have no friends yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:55 PM
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None of the unlinked source statistics show that most men don't have friends. Or do we need to breakdown how 15 and 30 or whatever are significantly less than 51. Just because it's a significant minority doesn't make it not the minority. "Feeling lonely" isn't the same thing as not having friends. ETA: the 30 comes from not being able to talk about feeling lonely even. So those people have friends, they just don't share with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:47 PM
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Men don't know how to make friends with other men? That's wildly untrue. Most men have at the very least a handful of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:55 PM
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Tbf, most people focus on things that affect them and things they can change. Most of those things are not things that one can change. Climate change is driven by corpos. War is decided by leaders. Income inequality is a de facto feature of most modern societies. Potential political violence is probably overstated imo. Most people just want a simple life and dating is something they can latch onto. You're not wrong that inability to pull shouldn't be someone's "biggest problem", but neither are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:35 PM
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What goalposts have been moved? You stated "most" of what he says in the title, and now it's"the fundamentals"? Nah you're sugar coating him. Looks like the latter of my assumptions was right. You've taken stuff that is basically Red pill basic ideology and equated it to a guy who routinely does and says far more extreme stuff. Also played pretty fast and loose with your comparisons there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm guessing the OP has either only seen memes about the guy, or is radicalized and making this argument in bad faith. Tate is nuts and pretty extreme in his views.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:58 PM
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Yes that is how it works man, everybody gets made fun of as kids. Adults move on and realize we were all dumb kids. I'm not saying go be buds or anything, but holding that kinda grudge is bad news and will only eat you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:27 PM
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My brother in Christ, high school ends at 18 and a majority of people go through a lot of growth after that. If you're holding a grudge against a high school stereotype idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:21 PM
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I mean robbing the kid to go to bars and brothels was pretty messed up as well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:13 PM
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Centuries of selection prevent that tbh. Standards aren't easily changed particularly when the opposite sex doesn't want them changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:45 PM
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So people who want to wait to be stable to have children? Sans mind control you will legitimately never abolish that mindset. It is a healthy one, if one can not take care of themselves, how can they care for others? What would you propose then? Because that mindset is mostly out of fear of becoming destitute, and having children is absolutely a huge financial strain. I also am not so sure that's the cause. I just think more and more people don't want kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:40 PM
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So the "socially" middle class expects a middle class lifestyle before family planning? What makes the "socially" middle class different from economic? That they're poor and aren't willing to churn out kids that they cannot afford? Forgive me if I sound dumb, but when you say socially middle class I have literally no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:07 PM
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Tbh your initial response basically sounded like Abolish the middle class ???? Profit I'm not really certain what you're getting at, or what categories are feasible outside the status quo and a 2 tiered social class of elite and destitute. I also don't see the correlation between abolishing Middle class lifestyle and birth rate increases without completely destroying your culture along with it. Is it truly continued existence if your culture dies? Humans aren't going extinct any time soon as a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:50 PM
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Feminists won't compromise what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:32 AM
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Yeah and dudes here are pretty far up their own ass a lot of the time. The red pillers might not be my cup of tea, but at least they're usually somewhat realistic about the standard they need to meet to attract somebody besides a "run through land whale" lol. This sub has a lot of black pill incel types that are far more like you're describing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:46 PM
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To attract a traditional conservative Christian or whatever woman they likely will need to be able to provide a traditional lifestyle. Need to be in moderately good shape, be somewhat personable, and make enough money to provide her a housewife setup. Most do not have those things. Not to mention then they're "beta bux" or whatever since they're providing 100% for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:32 PM
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You gotta be trolling lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:58 PM
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My brother in Christ, that isn't a blend that is you being a doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:58 PM
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Bro the Republican party consistently ramps up deficit spending and the entire economy tanks and the big bad Democrats have to balance the checkbook when the bill comes due. I've no love lost for political parties but to pretend the Dems are worse at managing spending is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:13 PM
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Black pill is BS though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:27 PM
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Your first paragraph is seething over people liking popular things, most of that applies to everyone. I would recommend getting off social media for a little bit my guy. Most people in general like popular music, most people in general like visiting new places. It would be just as easy to stereotype guys if you wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:05 PM
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Video games with friends, bad Movies (online) with friends, good Table top games with friends, good Make it make sense lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:56 AM
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Tbf you walked right into that one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:19 PM
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It is astounding to me how many people think physical discipline is the only discipline. Nowhere else in life is hitting people acceptable for a punishment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:10 PM
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Tf does this even mean? Or have anything to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:31 AM
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Statistically speaking, women are just fine being single long term. Why the hell would they not just settle, but downgrade heavily to somebody they have literally no interest in being with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:25 AM
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I mean it is a dating sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:03 PM
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Believe it. Though I haven't gone 10 I've gone multiple. Had decent success when I was younger though I was no Casanova. Sex isn't the end all lol. It's nice and all that, but it's oftentimes not worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:13 PM
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Eventually you can get sick of playing the game. The juice isn't worth the squeeze for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:29 PM
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I mean tbf I think most dudes (assuming they could) wouldn't mind the traditional roles of "protector and provider" and "mother and home maker". It's just the handful of women that believe men should take that role on while they stack cash and don't contribute financially while splitting home duties. I'm not sure how common that actually is, but it seems overrepresented on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:29 PM
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Lesbians have more orgasms because both partners have intimate knowledge of the equipment by virtue of owning it lol. Women know the way around their bits better than men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:05 PM
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I think you're jumping the gun here. I don't think this one is gonna be the thing that puts the final nail in the human race's coffin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:46 PM
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Women repeatedly said they don't want men to randomly approach them. It's been stated repeatedly not to so men don't typically cold approach anymore. It's unfair to call men cowards for doing exactly what they've been explicitly told to do. Seriously you can't get upset when you get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:19 PM
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I mean in the last decade there have been dozens if not hundreds of articles saying women don't want men to approach them and to leave them alone. Shockingly enough most men have taken that to heart and don't want to bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:14 PM
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Sure shelter is below food and water too. Tell me what happens without those? Do homeless people not look for places under bridges or trees and what have you for protection from the elements? I always hear about tent city problems in Cali. Simply put, without food you die of starvation in a few weeks. Without water you die within a few days. Couldn't give you a timeframe, but without simple shelter from the elements you'll die of exposure. What kills you if you don't have sex for a prolonged per…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:52 PM
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Yes, and if you go through the thread you'll see I've offered the same solution. Get some money together and pay for it. Same way you would for food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:48 PM
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Eh i was all over the thread trying lol. Not a fruitful effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:20 PM
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Yeah I wasn't gonna touch that one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:36 PM
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How is her choosing method faulty without being able to read her mind? Choosing methods are subjective not objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:20 PM
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The hypothetical makes no sense and presumes people can read each other's minds. Just because you don't like the solution doesn't mean there isn't one. It's a legal and reasonable solution to your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:14 PM
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Doesn't matter. The means are there. Sometimes you'll have to work for things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:12 PM
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You're still comparing not having sex to rape. The right to not get raped is built into that punishment. Flying to Vegas and going to a brothel is perfectly legal and accessible pathway to sex that harms no one. Not having sex isn't comparable to violently raping someone. It's an asinine comparison. Legally paying a sex worker is a logical conclusion. Hell even the strip club and escort routes might not be "legal" but they're not inherently as immoral as its a consensual business transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:11 PM
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Literally they can buy it. Save up some money and go at it lol. It's not rocket science. Relationships are a different animal, but since this is about strictly sex, there is a very easy option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:05 PM
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If you're chronically sexless you can go to a strip club with a couple hundred bucks or hire an escort. Hell fly to Vegas or wherever prostitution is legal and take care of it that way. The onus is on the individual to solve that problem, not the random girl in the bar that isn't interested. How does the man know she made a mistake? She's rejecting him because she has no desire to get to know him. She's not interested. Not being interested isn't a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:03 PM
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You are right, I misspoke. The obsessed are the ones that let it occupy a lot of their time and headspace and prioritize it heavily a large majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:47 PM
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There isn't a point. If you "need" sex hire an escort. You do not have a right to sex, you do have a right to not get raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:45 PM
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Yup. That was the single most asinine thing I've ever read on Reddit regardless of what sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:40 PM
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Comparing getting declined for sex to rape. Peak clown world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:36 PM
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That's not asexuals. That's a normal mindset. Having sex on your mind at all times would qualify as an obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:33 PM
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There is a difference between desire and obsession. Things aren't as black and white as the sub likes to make them. I'm no Casanova myself, I'd definitely like to have more sex than I do. Sex doesn't occupy my thoughts very often and hasn't since I was a bit younger. The "obsessed" are the ones that can't get it off their mind for a few days and have it as their top priority at all times. Regular "hoping I get lucky tonight" isn't obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:48 PM
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I'm talking about needs for survival and access to sex. In most Western societies you can go to the store and buy food, the same can't be said for sex currently, at least not on a cheap and readily available scale. Complaining about sex being "a need" is pointless. If you're "starving" for it you can use your money to hire an escort I guess. There is no issue here so long as you have the means. You need money to buy food/water/shelter. You can buy sex too if you're willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:45 PM
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Careful with the nuance here. Apparently sex and water are almost equal needs for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:41 PM
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Food is much higher on the hierarchy of needs than sex. Horrible comparison. If you don't have sustenance you literally will die. That is not the case with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:38 PM
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Sex requires a willing partner. You're not entitled to somebody else's labor (funny enough you bring up slavery) or affection. Sure it's a psychological "need" but it's not anywhere near the actual need of food, water, or shelter. In most places (especially the USA) you're pretty much entitled to nothing anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:34 PM
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"Who in their right mind sends girls to high school?" Pretty much everyone boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:26 PM
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They're talking about n count as opposed to life experience, which is disingenuous imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:03 PM
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Tbf incels have infiltrated RP and MGTOW and try to turn it into a "wahmen bad" circlejerk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:23 PM
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Virgins are a completely different subset than the others. Women (only recently in my experience) started using it specifically as an insult and it's almost always on social media. When I was younger it was the guys poking fun at each other for not getting any play. Again look to my "black and white" comment. You can't slam women for the amount of sex they have while simultaneously expecting them not to do the same. There are promiscuous women out there that don't shame men for being inexperienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:06 PM
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Yup. I might need a break myself, OP told me that taking a girl's v card is more prestigious than winning a Nobel Prize. Can't even fathom it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:51 PM
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Yeah the more I come here the more I realize how detached from reality a lot of people here are. It's been interesting to say the least. At least the discourse is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:38 PM
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That's a weird outlook but okay. I guess I've aged out of that mindset. Sex isn't a big deal and virgins are bad at it. I don't have any weird purity hangups I guess. Good luck on your quest my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:23 PM
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Put it into words then, if it's THAT important that society should be reshuffled to suit your desire to sleep with a virgin, certainly you can explain why it's such a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:16 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:11 PM
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Are they getting shamed irl for not having sex? Or are they getting flamed online for bitching about Stacy not putting out for them and calling women tramps? In regards to this subs black and white nature I'd say you can't eat your cake and have it too. You can't slam women over how much sex they've had and then complain when they do the same albeit for opposite reasons. Regarding "purity culture", it benefits pretty much nobody besides the uber religious. Studies have shown that women are very …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:03 PM
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I think you may be onto something. I'm about the same age and stopped doing anything on FB other than shitpost like 6 years ago lol. I think social media and the subsequent addiction to it have really messed people up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:48 PM
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Most men aren't virgins either, and most women aren't on tinder looking for strange every night. The average man and average woman have similar amounts of sexual partners. Virgins and whores/fuckbois are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:38 PM
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Yah for whatever reason people think sexual liberation wasn't a thing until tinder showed up. Maybe I'm just old for this sub lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:36 PM
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60s and 70s? The hippies were every bit as sexually deviant as modern people. The 80s? You don't think the cocaine fueled club scene was every bit as wild as today's party scene? Things are very much the same, nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:14 PM
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Somebody had to say it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:11 PM
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Why would you want a virgin wife? I mean I can understand not wanting somebody who's been a borderline porn star, but you'd rather be married to somebody who has no idea what they're doing? Wouldn't somebody of a similar experience level be ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:09 PM
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I think a lot of people just get addicted to rage. They can't adapt to a changing societal paradigm so they toss blame around. Then they seek out communities of like minded people and lock themselves in a pity party echo chamber where they just gas each other up. It doesn't help that many of these types of men place their happiness on the shoulders of a potential partner instead of themselves. A bit After my grandmother died and I was moving out, my grandfather told me that there is a difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:52 PM
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I would say that they've become apathetic to it. Easier to take the path of least resistance and stay in your comfort zone. I'm one of them, I just don't really care about dating or anything anymore most of the time. Nobody to blame but myself but I'm content with my life as is, so I don't really blame anybody at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:37 PM
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Dude you just sound black pilled. Companionship comes in many forms, just because one is married, doesn't mean they don't have close make companions or a meaningful career. "Brotherhood" never went anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:11 PM
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I think you need a new dictionary lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:56 PM
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No, it truly isn't. I don't agree with OP at all, but explaining your perspective isn't gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:47 PM
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That's not what gaslighting is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:39 PM
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I mean if a woman married me for my money and then divorced me and took it, I'd probably be a little bitter too. Would likely advise young men to not make that mistake again lol, not sure it counts as "brainwashing".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:15 PM
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Love doesn't exist, or at the very least is a fleeting emotion that doesn't last and all relationships are transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:10 PM
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I mean if you're gonna go beta bux, might as well get the most bang for your buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:45 PM
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I don't disagree, but out of the good male role models with high visibility who is talking about the issues they face? Tate is a total scumbag but he has the money, women, and notoriety and uses that to hone in on misguided and disgruntled young men and it's working for him. Talking about "men's rights" and unique difficulties men can face is a death sentence in the mainstream, getting branded a MRA or incel would be problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:42 PM
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I actually saw a pretty good video a few years back when "incel" first popped up in the mainstream by Vice surprisingly enough. The guy that they were interviewing wasn't some wild misogynist, he just kinda weird and awkward interacting with the woman doing the doc. Apparently had some really severe suicidal anxiety. His incel internet buddies all just seemed like weird dudes as well, nothing crazy in the limited exposure to them. He was putting the first big incel killer on blast for giving the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:14 PM
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I'm not sure "blame" is the right choice of phrase. It's just an evolution of modern society. As time went on women didn't explicitly need men anymore (credit cards, bank accounts, etc.) so their standards rise. As somebody else said in here men should be asking themselves what a potential partner brings to the table like women do. As for tech, that was bound to happen. It's not women's fault thirsty dudes hop in their dms trying to get some action.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:37 PM
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I feel like this is common sense, insecurity and "unattractive" qualities go hand in hand. It's not anybody's problem except Billy betas. Fake it till you make it my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:48 PM
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Dude quit victimizing yourself for 5 minutes and think rationally. You're pushing 40 and have 0 romantic experience for one reason or another. The amount of women (and other men) in that same scenario is small. That's just reality. It isn't these more experienced women's fault that you haven't been able to seal the deal for whatever reason. If you're self describing yourself as "ugly", are you going for other older "ugly" women? As to your original post, it sounds like you're disappointed that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:09 AM
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I mean if that's your prerogative. Speaking honestly though it sounds like you're setting unrealistic standards and refuse to improve yourself since nobody can meet them anyways. You're extremely unlikely to find a 40 year old virgin that checks all your boxes. It's easier to blame the issues you face on potential relationship candidates than it is to be introspective. The vast majority of women you're looking to date are going to have experience and baggage, it's just how it works the older you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:38 PM
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It's a combination of "blue pill" not being a thing and heavy red and black pill bias in this sub. "Blue pill" is legitimately just everybody who doesn't subscribe to RP theory, which makes up the vast majority of people and a ton of different ideologies, whereas red pill is a handful of easily meme-able talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:06 PM
3

That's pretty glorious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:02 PM
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"Men don't even enjoy hanging with each other..." Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:38 PM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:10 PM
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Why not just ask? Why send "signals"? To quote everybody I've ever asked for dating advice "what's the worst that could happen? They say no?" She must not have been very interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:22 PM
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Better to try and fail right? Some guys need to be hit over the head with this stuff on occasion lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:14 PM
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Why didn't she ask him out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:04 PM
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I don't disagree on your opinion of them, hence the quotes around "good enough". But simply put women reject men just as quickly all the time, just in more socially acceptable ways. Men get shut down all the time or ghosted on these crap apps because their opening line isn't clever enough. You're giving up on approaching after 3 bad experiences, most guys have that beat by the time they're like 14. The internet age has made shaming guys cold approaching a past time. The point that women don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:11 PM
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They absolutely rejected you lol. Decided you're "good enough" for a booty call, but not "good enough" to date. It's like a guy equivalent to saying "let's just be friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:56 PM
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So what you're saying is, after 3 rejections you're throwing in the towel? And you wonder why men don't approach anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:47 PM
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Time to put on your big girl boots and ask the guy you like out then. The point that women do not want men to approach them has been driven home for years now. Now men don't approach and it's a problem? I think it's a shifting social norm. Women are gonna have to take the lead in the dating world when it comes to asking for dates and making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:42 PM
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That's true, but there has been a movement over the last decade or so hammering home the point that women do not want that attention from men. Do not approach them, leave them alone. I don't "approach" anybody, let alone women. It's no big deal imo, but definitely prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:35 PM
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While I understand that, I also understand not wanting to deal with baggage when you're young. It's a tough spot and I'm not sure there's anything that'll change it. When you're pushing 30 everybody has baggage so the stigma (while not completely gone) is reduced. I figure that's why it's less daunting for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:25 PM
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I think there's a lot of variables at play as well. Age plays a significant factor imo. The issues I see a lot here were a lot more prevalent when I was younger. With age I notice a lot less issues with being relatively open, though there are things I'll never open up about regardless lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:15 PM
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Anecdotal for sure, just seems to be the most common occurrence for me. I don't think gender relations are black and white enough to use super broad brushes personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:01 PM
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The average man and Peterson aren't the same. Also moving the goalposts here a little. Women dislike Peterson to begin with inn general, so they aren't sympathetic to his tears. A guy she's seeing regularly can open up about certain things (depending on timeframe). A lot of dudes get bitter when a girl loses interest after he dumps his whole life struggle on them when they aren't on that level in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:21 PM
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A lot of dudes mistake "being vulnerable" with "opening the floodgates and going far too deep far too early".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:44 PM
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Yeah, it seems like RPers try to wrap pick up artistry inside a "nice guys finish last" wrapper, and slap that inside a box of "scientific facts". I think some of the stuff could work for a 1st impression as a confident or interesting guy to get your foot in the door I guess, but if there's nothing to back it up I can't imagine it's successful long term. But that's just me I'm no Casanova myself but I've done okay over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:48 PM
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Idk if the sub skews young or not, because a lot of the stuff I see about men would apply to horny guys in their late teens. I think once men and women get a bit older things start to change a bit. It's why I have to take pretty much everything TRP with a grain of salt. It assumes the worst about everybody and tries to boil a subjective experience into an objective science. A lot of the good content that'll pop up gets drowned out by doomers in their "anger phase".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:56 PM
2

"Most men are dogs who normally cheat" Speak for yourself my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:15 PM
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I think that last one is probably common tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:17 PM
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I gotcha, yeah I'm with ya there I guess. Just depends on the definition of reasonable. It's a question I don't really ask tbf. A lot of times I feel like it just sets you up for an answer you won't like lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:56 PM
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I'm not fresh out of high school, everybody my age has had multiple sexual partners. That's reality. I'm not sure what percentage of women are even there. I don't make my standard procedure off of outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:46 PM
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Fair enough. It's been a thing I've been curious about for awhile
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:30 PM
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That's still through a man's eyes. Did women think a player was good or powerful? Honest question. I personally don't put a ton of stock into number of sexual partners unless it's comically high.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:39 PM
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"It was at that point, u/scrumsclut knew she'd fucked up"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:27 PM
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That must've been very colorful and enlightening lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:24 PM
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They're implying you're a "fake" nerd because you're a good looking woman who isn't into a decent chunk of the "nerdy guy" demographic if I had to guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:21 PM
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My man, I sympathize with you greatly. I was in your shoes for years. My current opinion on the matter is based off of going through (based on your other replies) a very similar situation. I found myself content. I am still single, and for sure wouldn't mind changing that, but I no longer feel like I need to. It's a bit of work but learning to be happy with the man you are is the most worthwhile things I've done. I was in a pretty dark place for a long time. I'm not exactly sure when my "epiphan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:44 PM
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I prefaced my post by saying these things don't replace romantic connections. People seek relationships for the obvious reasons, I've never contended otherwise. I simply stated that one shouldn't base their entire being on their romantic life. I said that by learning to be content alone, and improving yourself whether physically, mentally, or through a fulfilling career/hobbies you can lead a fine life single. Not to mention that doing those things can have a side effect of increased confidence,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:16 PM
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Red flag in dating? Or red flag in life? Who cares if random people think you're a loser? Unless you're in high school most strangers aren't thinking of you at all. You seem to be defining yourself by romantic success. That's a good way to be dependent on somebody else to control your mental state. You can lead a fulfilling career single. You can have fulfilling hobbies single. You can do pretty much anything you want, unencumbered, while single. Society isn't gonna hold you down because you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:54 PM
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Self improvement and loving yourself aren't meant to replace a romantic relationship. They will however help you learn to be happy alone. I see a lot of posts around here where people sound codependent and the lack of being in a LTR means their life has no meaning. It's sad to see tbh. It's important to be content with life regardless of your romantic life. Being a miserable sadsack isn't gonna help your mental health long term, or help you find a date. Your life doesn't have to be defined by ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:34 PM
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It's never been a huge focus for me tbh, but I think it generally is linked to being trad and submissive. Wanting to be in the passenger seat as a wife and mother and all that. Being caring and sensitive, probably appeal to traditional gender roles and beauty standards as well. Career climbers are seen as domineering and "masculine". N count I think might be a different issue regarding promiscuity. Somebody else could probably answer better for me though, "being feminine" is a bit too vague a qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:17 PM
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Alright that makes sense for sure. I appreciate the clarification. I knew some women that would get heated over a few hours of games, but all they wanted to do was watch TV lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:05 PM
1

Investing time in you. What exactly does that mean? On an average weeknight, outside of dinner together and potentially some chores, what exactly are you looking to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:13 PM
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Going places and doing things I normally wouldn't is an added expense, even if she covered her own costs which is uncommon at least in the early stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:47 PM
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You're right, I should've used "the" instead of "a". It's all subjective imo. It's hard to reduce the intricacies of the dating world to a number rating system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:03 PM
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Not a woman, just a realist. There's different values attached to casual sex and LTR. Lots of variables involved as well. Dating isn't a simple numbers game no matter how bad you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:25 PM
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And if we're equating dating to robbery, you're talking about undoing at least a century of social norms (in the US at least) to address the issue. I can't help but feel like you are screaming into the void here a bit. I'm not sure there's a real, viable solution to women having "inflated self images" or the taxation issue you're talking about, that's why I've simply accepted it as reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:22 PM
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That's a pretty good assessment. I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't at least on the apps. Like I said, it's not a huge priority, so I wouldn't say I need it. I'm a pretty big "go with the flow" kinda guy now. I just plan to take things as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:17 PM
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I'm not a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:14 PM
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I don't see how dating norms and government action even correlate. I also don't know how you'd solve the issue without a fundamental restructuring of governments or the electoral process. Tbf Idk how to solve the issues we have in the dating world either. I have just accepted them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:12 PM
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Who knows? Not particularly long, I had my own issues to solve that caused problems in relationships. After I took care of my issues I found I was happy enough alone without the complications a relationship would add is all. I have no ill will towards anybody I've dated or anything like that, they're all fine people. I just don't think I need the complication. I've very much adopted an "if it happens, it happens" mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:08 PM
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That's an issue to take up with governments, not dating norms
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:05 PM
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The market and variables established the current values of men and women, for better or worse. Men have always had to work for women's attention, I don't think that's unique to the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:04 PM
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Early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:59 PM
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Then you're ignoring a metric and hoping to inject "logic" into an illogical discussion. You can't play a simple numbers game and ignore the variables. I should've read better so that's my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:58 PM
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I don't see why not. I've learned to enjoy my own company. A relationship might be nice, but it's not a priority or a need. I'm content with my life as it is, and if it never changes I'm more than happy to continue on my current path.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:39 PM
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Don't get married or have kids boom, you're not gonna be directly supporting women. It would be hard to divvy up tax dollars by gender though if that's what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:24 PM
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Not RP. I can deal with my own emotions and problems on my own. There's a very big difference between being alone and being lonely. I quite like being alone, I spend my time as I see fit and enjoy my social circle. There is nothing a romantic relationship can offer me right now other than a headache lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:18 PM
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What experience would dating bring me? I've dated and all it did was cause frustration and drain my resources. Nothing against these women, but I currently see no gain from a "romantic" relationship. I have had a fairly fulfilling life for the most part. I'm happy to sit back and relax by myself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:13 PM
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The market dictates value. If "5 or 6" women are consistently declining a "7 to 9" man, it just means the 5/6 woman has a higher value on the market than a 7/9 man. Doesn't really matter how you feel about it, or how hot someone thinks they are. Market sets the value, not some objective beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:58 PM
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I'm sure it would be an interesting thing to study, but they could feasibly do it now with the 30-40ish crowd. I'm sure there's some effect on people that get exposed young, I'm just not entirely sure if it's really all that detrimental. Would be a very good topic to see explored for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 07:34 PM
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I mean we're talking like 20 years for internet porn. Ease of access might be even greater now, but it wasn't exactly hard back then. And there was always the backroom of the video store before that. Getting it was never an issue. I think it's more of an effect of the way life is going for people, both the less sex and the more porn. Less people having sex might correlate with porn access/usage, but I'm not sold that the latter causes the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:46 PM
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I'm not sure it's dulled men's drives, I do however think it's stopped people from doing stupid things to get laid. Internet porn has been around forever, as has porno in general. At worst I'd see porn usage as a symptom and/or effect of people having less sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 05:42 PM
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I mean he seemed like it was fine, and he was laughing until he saw his wife's reaction. He was white knighting (as much as I hate the phrase) more than any toxic masculinity imo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:27 PM
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I think it's because Chris Rock isn't gonna press charges more than political affiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:01 PM
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I mean, in your scenario it would come down to the individual. Are they simple mistakes? Or are they guys actively ignoring your physical/mental/emotional etc needs? I think that leaving shouldn't be your first choice, but sometimes you need to weigh the pros/cons of the relationship. Is "starting a family" worth being unhappy? I don't think this is unique to women either, unless they had no financial stake in the house (get on the paperwork, both parties need the security of a paper trail). If …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:26 PM
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I would disagree. You're entitled to your opinion, but even looking back on my experiences as a younger guy, I'm not so sure the women I knew fit the RP mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:11 PM
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I would say I have a handful of positive relationships. Obviously my mom is one. I have a younger sister as well, she's given me some perspective on women a bit younger than me. I'd count most of my guy friends SOs, and the women in my larger social circle as well. I think it keeps me balanced in my views. I've known most of these women for well over a decade and have seen behavior. It helps me realize that while there are differences between men and women, women aren't (contrary to some beliefs…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:22 PM
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I probably gave up in my mid-late 20s. I had ruined a good relationship because of my own issues a few years prior, bopped around casually a bit, and when I had my head on straight, knocked off the self destructive habits, and was ready to get serious I was met with bad experience after bad experience. After that I got sick of the "game" and had no desire to play it anymore. I felt my persona when i was trying to impress women was phony and I didn't feel like continuing a facade. I still swipe o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:25 PM
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What political correctness? Most story driven RPGs have had political elements since the 90s. Games are evolving alongside modern society. I'm curious as to what "forced inclusion" you're talking about tbh. The only one I remember being out of place was commander Shepard having a gay option in the 3rd game after being straight for 2 games. Even then shep was supposed to have several same sex options beforehand, but they chickened out because of fox news.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:18 PM
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I mean, black flag and rogue are both 2 generations old now. The series has pretty much abandoned it's premise and become a generic open world rpg (might explain the talent leaving). It's also a not so well kept secret that demands in that industry are brutal. I might be naive, but I never really thought too hard on left/right dynamics in AC. Both groups operated in shades of grey. The assassin's loyalty seemed to be freedom and the truth, while the Templars were all about peace and control. Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 01:05 PM
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There would never be enough popular support for those measures for them to be adopted lol. It's about as possible as me beating Tyson fury in a boxing match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:20 PM
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Yes and women aren't going to voluntarily go back to those conditions. And economic conditions won't allow for it anyways. Unless you've got a time machine you're not getting the 1950s back. So again, how do you plan to do it? It is virtually impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:16 PM
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How in the world would you go about doing that? Nobody is going to voluntarily stop having sex because some people don't like it happening. You'd need to start a theocracy lol. That'd be very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:10 PM
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I'm not exactly sure from a rational PoV how they could expect guys to keep trying to be players while women sat on the sidelines or got ostracized for getting laid. I'm not sure where the hostility comes from either. I must just be getting old, I left my anger and frustration behind years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:18 PM
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My guess is that it's a smaller sphere. Women skew liberal, and young people skew liberal. Sucks for conservatives I guess, but Idk how they expect to turn back time on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:05 PM
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Impressing women at other men's expense has happened forever. If it was your friend that guy was your wingman, I've definitely gassed up a buddy at my own expense to help him shoot his shot. Outside social media I don't really see much in terms of actual SIMP behavior honestly. Maybe a bit of posturing in hopes to get laid, but nothing I didn't see a decade ago when I was more active in the dating scene. Blue checks on Twitter flirting is usually for laughs and clout I always figured as well, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:59 PM
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That's what automation is for lol. Problem fixes itself in a generation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:49 PM
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How would one "regulate sex" in the modern world? Realistically that would be virtually impossible in a good chunk of the industrialized world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:38 PM
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Though some restrictions on social media might not be a bad thing across the board. It's evolved to a whole different animal since I was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:28 PM
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Hard pass on all of those "solutions" lol. Separating the sexes will ensure that nobody knows how to act around one another I think. As for authority having a say in dating practices, why not skip the middle man and go full on arranged marriages? Also good luck getting people back into church.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:22 PM
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I have a feeling you and I agree on most aspects of life, though I'm more socially liberal I guess, but as long as it's not the government telling people they need to be monogamous idc. I guess I find the modern political landscape very confusing. I think hookup culture is largely supported by current economic conditions as well. Choosing fleeting, short term pleasure seems to be engrained into American society now (I'm not innocent myself) as a lot of people lack the stability that was afforded…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:46 PM
2

Yup, American conservatives that romanticize the "50s/60s" glory days fail to realize that the country as a whole was extremely "left" compared to today in most ways. Graduate high school (at best), go get a job at the nearest factory/shop/auto production place that gave you a great salary and benefits. That option has evaporated over time and that class of people now work retail or service jobs. Not to mention the national guard enforcing school integration if I'm remembering correctly. Conserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:19 PM
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You're confusing modern American conservative ideology with traditionalism. If we're talking politics, a return to the glory days of the nuclear family dynamic, politically we'd have high taxes on the wealthy and businesses, robust social safety nets, large scale infrastructure projects, high wages + pension and benefits. Nothing about TRP is particularly traditional. It seeks to exploit modern sexual culture to maximize your sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:12 PM
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So unemployed? Lol you wiped out so many jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:58 PM
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That's been said for years now, I don't see it happening. It'll be left to the states at worst/best depending on your views. I mean feel free to rub it in everybody's face on the off chance it happens. Surprising that Republicans would want to restrict personal freedoms over their feelings though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:02 PM
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You're putting a lot of eggs in this basket lol. I don't see that ever happening federally, potentially in the bible belt states though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:41 PM
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I mean women are the gatekeepers of sex, making them the gatekeeper of pregnancy. You can't eat your cake and have it too. Not that i think men are blameless victims in every unplanned pregnancy or anything like that, but the responsibility falls on both to make the right decisions when it comes to avoiding an unplanned pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:29 PM
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I hear you, I'm talking in general, your method seems like it at least has the possibility of paying off. I was going off the random dm hitting on and then trying to get her to bang you, which generally get hilariously shut down and the guy goes off the deep end and winds up being a "nice guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:30 PM
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Can you elaborate? I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:42 PM
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If you're thinking being slightly above average and sending a DM to a woman you think is beneath you is gonna get you laid, you're delusional. I don't even know what mindset you gotta be in to think this is all it would take. I've never heard of somebody getting lucky cuz they sent a woman a random FB/Twitter/Insta message ever lol. Even if I go into RP ideology, if I'm not mistaken they believe men and women are wired differently and values different qualities. Just because you'd be pumped and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:03 PM
2

You're not going to get an answer here. Everybody talks about a diminishing middle class, but if you look for an answer beyond "bootstraps" you might as well be Stalin. The very real wealth gap absolutely effects virtually everything for the average person. Having stability being attainable later in life means later (if any) family planning. Puts a strain on dating too. Regardless of political leanings it's abundantly clear a weak middle class hurts many aspects of society. Progressivism is just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:52 PM
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I think marriage rates are down for a handful of reasons. Women have more options than ever in terms of employment opportunities and potential partners, which gives them the ability to wait until the right person comes along or abstaining in general. They don't have to get married to secure financial stability and survive anymore. Men see horror stories about dead bedrooms and nasty divorces so they seem less ecstatic about essentially gambling their assets on something as fickle as romantic fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:12 PM
1

That's not exactly a fair demographic to use. Single mothers almost always HAVE to settle because having a kid exponentially reduces their value on the dating market. The same could most likely be said for single dads too, I'm just not sure that's a major demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:04 PM
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I mean she's defending her friend cheating on her bf/husband lol. I don't put a ton of stock into OPs opinion after that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:16 PM
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Also, justifying your friend cheating is hilarious. If he had any self respect he would've left. Not trying hard enough but he's better now? Give me a break, she's not the victim, he is. No excuses for cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:04 PM
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You're describing settling. Everybody knows they aren't gonna marry their celebrity crush or whatever, so that's out the window in this topic. What you describe as "maturing" is women realizing that they need to find somebody who is stable, makes good choices, supportive, etc. It's definitely normal, but it's settling for sure. They wind up finding somebody who is "good enough" and checks those boxes for them. It isn't inherently negative imo, but not liking the term doesn't make the practice so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:59 PM
2

Why is it "our duty" to teach away attraction? Wouldn't your end goal be achieved with way less steps with mandatory arranged marriages? Not that that's a good thing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:21 PM
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I can't say I think putting people in "reeducation camps" is a good idea. Generally those aren't the best things in a society
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:19 PM
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Doesn't bother me, I think it'll become more normalized as time goes on as well. Social media bombarding men with articles telling them not to approach women in pretty much every scenario lest they be seen as a creep has a decent chunk of men gun-shy. Nothing wrong with taking the initiative imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:46 PM
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A "minimal amount of work" is the same as "with ease". If it requires the bare minimum of effort, it is by definition easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:09 PM
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How does a disparity in sex drive affect supply and demand though? Most guys can get laid if they drop their standards in the same way women can, unless we're talking about the bottom tier of attractiveness, they are kinda SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:59 PM
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I would be interested as well not gonna lie. I'm not sure how prevalent these groups are outside the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:53 PM
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Looks only get your foot in the door, unless you're only looking for casual sex out of the potential relationship. As time goes on, if you have the personality of a wet sock you won't get much further. Not to mention that your reputation will start to precede you, which could hurt your prospects as you get older. I'm not saying you need to be the world's most interesting man, but being aesthetically pleasing won't get you much more than short term benefits. If that's all you're after go nuts tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:49 PM
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I would be inclined to think it's neither in the case of families. At least it isn't a new phenomena. Men and women fuck around in their younger years and have a good time. Even the "average" guy can and does get causal sex in their early 20s. It seems there's just noise from a vocal minority that is upset about the status quo at this point, and are extrapolating it to the end of western society or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:40 PM
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Depends on the man tbh, many are willing to check out and go without. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it is reality for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:54 PM
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Starting a family has a pretty steep monetary barrier in the modern age, that's why people wait longer and longer or opt out in general. All the slut-shaming in the world won't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:39 PM
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That's on the individual as well. Anybody with a brain knows they're getting settled for once you hit 30, if you want you can reject that. Some people don't want to live in blissful ignorance and would prefer the harsh truth. The guy in those posts isn't even one of them, just vented about it like a guy with minimal social skills. I see no benefit or detriment to deconstructing these narratives. If you're cool with being settled for, good for you. If you're not, no worries, do your thing. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:14 PM
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Best option for the individual man. Focus on yourself and making yourself happy alone, nobody needs or is entitled to a romantic relationship. As long as your not out here whining about women all day every day you're not hurting or annoying anybody. If being settled for is gonna have adverse effects on your mental state, just be by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:59 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:41 PM
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Make sure to give me a shout out in the press release when you make your first billion dude. I'm genuinely rooting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:45 PM
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We're all on the menu lol. I have the things I want for the most part. I'm content at this point, I'm happy to be nice to others. Self delusion to me would be convincing myself I could join the elite class.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:39 PM
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I guess I'm a loser and sucker then. I enjoy being nice, I like it when other people around me are genuinely happy. I shed my phony cockiness and "dgaf" attitude years ago and my mental state is far healthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:29 PM
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How is society failing? And how does it pertain to women specifically? Correlation isn't causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:27 PM
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TRP basically wants a return to traditional 50s values to my knowledge. By checking boxes I meant things you guys say you want. I've still got improvement to make certainly, but I absolutely am no addict with no job/house/car and no prospects who can't take care of himself lol. Might be a miscommunication on my part in which case my bad. Saying I'm a misogynist doesn't make it so. Men almost always bring money and all the "provider" benefits to a relationship. You seem to want a modern man who f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:55 PM
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I don't go there all the time. I'm a guy so a lot of content there isn't for me, and I'm admittedly biased. I have definitely seen some good content, I think there's just a bunch of people rightfully hurt and bitter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:11 PM
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The question FDS struggles with the most is simple. I personally check several (probably not all) of those boxes, so I'm likely still low value in your eyes. The question I have is "what do you bring to the table?" FDS women seem to think they're entitled to the world, while offering nothing but sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:00 PM
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See but everything makes a man LV to y'all. Plays video games with his buddies after work? LVM. Watched a porno to get off because your sex drive has been low? LVM. Expects you to chip in towards bills since you both work? LVM. Expects you to handle household chores since you wanna be a housewife? LVM. Made an off color joke? LVM. Had a bad day/event get to you? LVM. And any woman who is willing to compromise on anything with a man is still a "pick me", you'll turn on anybody that doesn't tow th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:54 PM
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Nah FDS hates every man that isn't a doormat. You guys read like scorned women who got gassed up by the internet after a jackass dude acted like a jackass. You find cringe tinder dudes and extrapolate that to every guy out there. And heaven forbid a woman doesn't try to Lord herself over every man alive, then she's a "pick me". I have my own gripes with TRP, but TRP is mostly pick up artistry at its core. The biggest difference I see between TRP and FDS is TRP doesn't reality respect women as me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:11 PM
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Bruh don't wake me up at 4 AM lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:01 PM
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I think that can be extrapolated towards everyone not just women tbh. At least everybody you meet as an adult. You're only as good as what you offer to others. I've long since said I've met everybody who will be important to me already. You're right in the fact that it's super easy to check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:22 PM
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I think that also depends on the group. TRP as an example absolutely believe they understand women, and I would venture to guess that they don't. I think the biggest issue is trying to understand the whole of the opposite sex without considering the variable of individuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:53 PM
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You're screaming into the void my man. Men have always been expected to handle their emotional problems on their own. This is never gonna change, it is what it is. People say they want men to seek help, but they really just want men to deal with it themselves and try their best to be stoic about it. It's a male stereotype that I don't think will ever change. Admitting weakness is "bad" in the eyes of both men and women. I don't see anything changing that in the near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:45 PM
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I'll do it myself my B
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:02 AM
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I'm missing the connection between household chores and power I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:18 PM
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Yeah I think you're right on the money. The world has changed and its on individuals to adapt. No use in being angry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:07 PM
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Right? Idk how people can't see through the stuff. As you give more info they can just sidestep to another facet of the ideology. It's a brilliant strategy, just flawed if somebody sees the pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:12 PM
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Oh yeah. I don't disagree with anything you just said. I guess just a bit of a miscommunication on my part. I think some dudes are just super bitter anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:08 PM
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I whole heartedly agree with you about romantic relationships. I'll agree to disagree about the hatred part though. Nobody deserves to be treated poorly, and I'd advise anybody to leave a shit situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:48 PM
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Yeah I've noticed a lot of TRP is pretty intentionally vague making it easy for a woman to fit any criteria they decide upon. It's predicated on thinking the worst about women it seems to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:31 PM
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I'm extrapolating on "why" men are "transactional" as you put it. Simply painting with a broad brush and saying "they hate women" is intellectually lazy and a cop out. I don't disagree with you about the benefits of feminism or RP dudes being delusional about alpa/beta dynamics at times. I just think saying men hate women is being willfully ignorant of the frustration some men feel about modern dating, and why some have just given up altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:23 PM
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I don't think that what you're getting at is men being upset about feminism though, that really isn't the case. Like you said at the end, women expect/are attracted to the traditional male role. Men still try to fit that role while women no longer fit the bill for their traditional role. A lot of that has to do with economics I think as well though since everybody has to work now, the "nuclear family" is a thing of the past because of it. Being a provider is tougher than ever since women have cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:55 PM
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You're not wrong, but the current expectation is that men provide regardless, so if he out earns his partner he provides and pays. I've seen a lot of equality vs equity conversations and it's very interesting that the popular viewpoint when the man has more than the woman, equity is the choice, whereas when the roles are reversed equality reigns supreme. I think a lot of this is blowback revolving around that. Women have shed the "housewife/homemaker" role, while men are still seen as "provider/…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:43 PM
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I mean I guess I don't understand the need for traditional "gentleman" stuff when everybody's got their own money. I think you're right that there's a bitterness towards the results of the feminist movement though. I think some of it is frustration like "why tf do I have to pay for this date when she out earns me". I think both sexes are trying to shake the traditional role that has been the norm for the majority of our lives. I'm not sure if they "hate" women per se, just frustrated with the ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:32 PM
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Women still expect traditional roles from men, while offering none of those roles themselves. Growing pains from an ever-evolving society I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:07 PM
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What do you mean by that? Genuinely curious? I understand what the poster is getting at I guess. I continually hear the phrase "chivalry is dead", but isn't chivalry just another outdated social norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:44 PM
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My 2 cents as a similar person? Quit looking for that relationship, they don't exist. The vast majority are out for themselves, it's human nature I think. I left behind my hopeless romanticism, I may be a bit more jaded and cynical now, but I'm also far more content. You're absolutely right though, it's not specific to either sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:28 PM
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Internet age tbh. People don't need to connect anymore. OLD gives an endless supply of potential partners to people (predominantly women based on user stats). Men seem to be content to just vibe at this point. At least for me I see no real benefit to a romantic relationship. I'll have less time/money, and more responsibility I don't feel like taking on. In my age range the dating pool is inundated with single mothers (no offense intended, just on the fence about children in general, not sure I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:18 PM
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Why does anybody need a woman if they've got all their ducks in a row? There's very little a woman could offer me at this point of my life. I'm curious as to what benefit I'm missing out on here, so far as I can tell all I'd have is less time, less money, and more responsibility. The only positive I see is maybe getting laid more often, but that's not that big of a deal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:51 PM
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I'm 100% with you on this, just so you know you're not alone. Dating in general isn't worth the time or effort, and always feels phony. I see very few positives to the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:46 PM
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Idk if violent revolution is my first course of action, but I agree with you about corporate power being out of hand currently. That to me is the issue with a population decline. Hard to raise a family if both partners are working 40+ hrs a week and still struggling. OF and amateur porn can be lucrative and many people are willing to do it to make more money to try and stabilize themselves. Not saying it's right or wrong, just that it exists for a reason. It is a symptom, not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:40 PM
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Then parents need to keep children off of social media I guess. I still think you're exaggerating though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:32 PM
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Women have been getting hit on and taking pictures for decades and I have seen 0 correlation bete between being complimented on a picture, and population decline. There are far more pressing matters in regards to societal health than women being flirted with on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:12 PM
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The work is/has been/will be automated, it's been happening for ages. Factory assembly lines are a great example. There is going to be less and less available work because machines do it cheaper than a human, if we don't solve that problem, population decline isn't going to be our biggest concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:10 PM
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And yes, virtue signaling. You're insinuating that a small number of women doing OF and being a less desirable mate to a lot of men is the driving force behind a population decline. It absolutely isn't, not even close. The future of the human race doesn't hinge on banning porn lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:01 PM
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And a population decline is gonna lead to a fallout style wasteland? Or society adapts to a smaller population? Life is getting more and more automated by the day, eventually there won't be enough work to go around. A smaller populace handles that situation significantly easier than a large one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:57 PM
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Yes, good thing that isn't actually happening, nor would it be caused by women being naked on the internet. The world isn't gonna devolve into some mad Max dystopian wasteland any time soon. And it isn't gonna be caused because a handful of women do porn. There's several other reasons why birth rates are down in the US at least. Your pearl clutching and virtue signaling doesn't make the nightmare scenario eminent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:49 PM
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To quote my favorite super hero Spider-Man: "I missed the part where that's my problem". Society will fall for many reasons before we get to girls on only fans. I'd also love to see a legitimate study showing women to be any more hardwired towards procreation than men are. Also I'm a guy, a guy who realizes he's got no right to tell anybody else what to do. Everybody is in charge of their own choices and consequences in this regard. If you don't wanna do porn don't do porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:01 PM
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Lol I'm the delusional one? Somebody can absolutely be happy and not have a family, look at Western birth rates. You've pretty much made up an entire philosophy about how women think, that's why I'd need a citation. Again I really don't care if they regret it or not, it's 100% not my job to police other people's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:48 PM
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I'd need a citation on most of that. I also never said they should be happy, I said who cares? Not my job to tell somebody how to make a living. They're more than welcome to regret the decision to do SW, I just don't care. They can complain about struggling to find LTRs and all that but I've yet to see these OF girls en masse complaining about lack of LTRs. Realistically there are men that past sex work isn't a deal breaker for, that's their target demographic. It's just a smaller one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:39 PM
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You know it, it was nice chatting with you. Good luck with everything, i hope it all works out with minimal frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:46 PM
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It's not my decision to make though, if you wanna do OF or SW or whatever, that's on you. Not everybody wants a LTR, so if you don't care about that it's nbd. I don't think OF girls and pornstars are under the illusion that men are interested in more than just sex. There's men out there that don't care, not many but they're there. I'm not willing to tell somebody how to live their life, if you wanna get naked for money, go for it, no sweat off my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:43 PM
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I can agree with you here. I guess I'm just a worst case scenario pessimist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:39 PM
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Breaking into a traditionally male dominated field has gotta be tough, I can't speak to that myself being a guy in a male dominated field myself. I'm hoping that your experience is part of a dying culture as more women are in the workforce and (hopefully) more open minded individuals are moving into leadership. When it comes to the black market, I don't think there's a way to eliminate it entirely, but safer avenues like OF (for all its flaws) might help tone it down. I do think that if you get …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:37 PM
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I mean I too wish I lived in a utopia where people don't have to do unsavory things to make ends meet in a dire situation. I also wish men would stop being hypocritical about women who do the porn they whack it to. Can't be too much better than the pornstar yourself if you're frequenting their site or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:12 PM
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My question was rhetorical, everybody has their own answer. I can't legitimately remember the last time I heard anybody talk smack about Kim, she's been wildly successful in other avenues since then so most people just shit on her TV show or (in the past) clowned on Kanye. And I would say this, maybe John just wants a simple transaction. He wants to get laid and he either doesn't have the time or the desire to mess with apps or bother meeting somebody. He doesn't want a connection, he just wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:10 PM
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There will always be a market for SW, it's mankind's oldest profession, doesn't mean you have to like it but it is what it is. By taking away OF you lose a safe avenue to capitalize on that market if you want to, or have no other options. I would think safely using toys in front of a camera on the internet is preferable to selling yourself on a street corner to shady people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:49 PM
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I think you're putting some moralistic spin on sex and using your personal views to describe everyone. To many people sex is just sex, nothing more or less. If somebody decides they wanna fuck for money, who are we to tell them otherwise? Legal SW is not the same thing as human trafficking, I'm not even going to step into that. Is Ray J even relevant anymore? Kim got some flak about it when it happened, but nobody cared about it within a relatively short time, and it made her famous. Not saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:45 PM
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Isn't selling sex "mankind's oldest profession"? This has been going on forever. Why would they do something to make less money? Work smarter not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:28 PM
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What if those men are fine with the way their life is? Not everybody wants some deep romantic relationship. I'm not big on the OF stuff myself, seems dumb, but I'm not in the business of telling somebody how to live their life or spend their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:24 PM
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What exactly is wrong with the concept of soliciting a prostitute (if/where it's legal obviously)? It's a simple business transaction, doesn't mean they hate women. Why are you the moral compass for the world? Both your comments are full of extrapolation, if somebody just wants to have sex or whatever, if it's not hurting someone (like a spouse or the SW themself), who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:17 PM
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Ah fair enough. Missed that one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:42 PM
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Either was he though? He seems to have come to terms with his unattractiveness and seems fine to me at least. Nothing wrong with knowing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:39 PM
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In American standards, that's far left tbh. The American political parties are pretty much center-right to far right. The American right just calls anybody left of Reagan a commie lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:15 PM
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How does one support a family then? It's the big question on a lot of people's mind, and leadership is fighting tooth and nail. Wages are stagnant and many families need 2 incomes because 1 income won't keep a roof over their heads. I'm curious as to how the situation shakes out in your ideal scenario where the nuclear household makes a resurgence while people are automated outta the workforce, and therefore have no way to support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:02 PM
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Dude I'd hardly call myself an anything-ist. If you're not gonna call out antidepressants in general, I'm not here for that talk about women using them. I've looked a bit into RP ideology, but it's increasingly difficult to sift through the misguided anger I see in the sub at least, spent a good couple hours reading some articles and reading posts, that's why I brought up that RP does, in fact, have some interesting and decent ideology thrown in with it. I also noticed you skipped over my "men g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:43 PM
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More women are on anti depressants here because they're allowed to be, 1st off. And 2nd because they're "burdened" with having to work and actually think and have opinions. Would you say that men shouldn't vote on all matters? Men's opinions on abortion generally are dismissed in debates online, but men very much still get to vote on abortion lol. Birth rates are declining (particularly in the States) because of Western capitalism, and before you get going, this isn't me condoning/supporting aut…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:19 PM
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I don't exactly mean the style, I mean the old "jock gets the girl" trope. The cheerleader wants the football player, not the chess club guy kinda thing. The alpha would be a ripped attractive dude who gets laid with no effort, the beta is the successful dude who only finds success with the assets/finances he brings to the table. Not saying I'm sold on the ideology, but I'm pretty sure that's the cliff notes version.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:04 PM
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To simplify, jock and nerd in HS terms
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:51 PM
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Must've hit his "epiphany phase" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:49 PM
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