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DebateSapphireRising225/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:58 PM
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It’s for rape in relationships which also counts as domestic violence. My point is, a significant portion of lesbians name men as their abusers in that cdc study on domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:56 PM
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You have a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:29 PM
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The stalking data is about relationships, you realize stalking counts as domestic violence? The cdc data showed a significant portion of lesbians unlike gay men listed the opposite sex as their abusers. The data you posted even shows lesbians do not list only female abusers. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), approximately 13.1% of lesbian women and 46.1% of bisexual women reported being raped i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:26 PM
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While lesbians have the highest percentage, more than straight couples. A significant portion of lesbians name men as their abusers. It’s bisexual women who have the highest abuse rates. According to a CDC survey, 51.6% of lesbian stalking victims reported that their perpetrator was male only. This means that more than half of lesbian stalking victims reported having only male perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:14 PM
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Did any of these guys agree to met up with her or did they blindly swipe on her profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:49 AM
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Bottom 2% is going to be very hideous women. You are saying they get attractive men to sleep with them? Doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:13 AM
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I think so. I like men with strong beards, dark hair, dark or green eyes, and olive or brown skin. All my bfs fit that bill and they happened to have ancestry from a middle eastern country. So I think there more guys from that region of the world that fit my type. I like Latino men too though, but I don’t live in a Latino area.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:24 PM
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For some reason I’ve always ended dating guys who middle eastern or at least part middle eastern. Don’t know why, it was never been a conscious decision on my part. So I’ve always dated outside my “race” (white-Latina) I suppose. I would generally prefer to date a guy from a Mediterranean or Latin culture but I am flexible in that regard if there are other qualities I like about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:13 PM
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Huh? The study literally says 67% of lesbians report women and 33% male only perpetrators. How does that equate to lesbians receiving more DV from men then heterosexual women who report 98% male only perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:37 AM
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Yes the original data separates the two: Lesbian. The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:08 PM
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The pew research study only had sample size 1,000s (for all age groups) and hardly the final authority. I think census data which sample size is in the 100,000s in probably more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:09 AM
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Well maybe men should go over their victim complex and realize alimony is rarely given nowadays, and the vast majority of states have abolished lifetime alimony and vast majority of custody cases are decided outside of court and men get custody the majority time they ask, not mention automatic 50/50 custody is increasingly the norm. Instead they use a fake persecution complex to justify violence against women, including defending a child predator who groomed the victim when was underage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:47 PM
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I already posted two non anonymous accounts that were prominent members of the redpill with thousands of followers sharing similar sentiment. It was not just anonymous accounts echoing this sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:58 AM
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From what you posted, the father wasn't going to have custody of the kids.. That unfortunately can mess up a parent, regardless of gender. There was no evidence of this at all. This something commenters made up to justify why the husband was right to murder his wife. We do know the husband and wife had their first child when he was 25 and she was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:26 AM
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Sure, but this subreddit is literally dedicated to debating redpill. So why are you acting confused as to why I’m posting redpill/manosphere comments and thoughts for debate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:24 AM
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I specified in the title I am talking about manosphere community. It doesn’t matter how rare these people are, they clearly represent a prevailing viewpoint in the manosphere, as those comments were echoed by two prominent members of the manosphere community. Isn’t the purpose of this subreddit to debate the redpill? Why is it a problem I am bringing redpill thoughts and comments here to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:16 AM
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Interesting, so when guys in here post anonymous reddit posts/comments for debate that’s fine, but posting twitter comments including from non fringe figures (I included two well known redpill figures) is apparently not ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:09 AM
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Some of these comments have thousands of likes. There was an entire thread made of comments of these nature. They represent a segment of society whether you like or not. And I certainly don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:06 AM
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For your first point I just found evidence that said the opposite: Two categories produced too few cases to be meaningfully analyzed in crime type subgroups to test hypotheses. Yet, these two variables presented noteworthy results when we collapsed all crime types and ran gender comparisons. First, women criminals were more likely to be identified by gender in the headline than male criminals. The results show that 17.4% of stories that featured exclusively male criminals made reference to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:23 PM
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You said: Well who do you see more annoyed online, male victims of statutory rape, or male virgins? Men and women are different and like/hate different things. No men and women are not different in this regard. Being raped as a child leaves long lasting psychological effects. It’s gross and offensive you were trying to downplay rape of children by implying being a virgin is worse. And at any rate you can't use that as a citation of misandry because I assure you I feel the same about sexual assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:09 AM
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Again if men are truly voting against immigration because they fear for their safety from male immigrants, why the is vast majority of anti immigrant stories that circulate in rw spaces online about male immigrants who raped or murdered women and children? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-puts-murdered-women-girls-center-stage-anti-immigration-drive-2024-06-30/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:00 AM
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Case in point I was just reading a post where you u/Proudvow were defending boys being raped by grown women because at least they aren’t virgins. And you have gall to spew hate towards women and complain about people not caring about men when you don’t even care about boy rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:43 AM
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Completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:56 AM
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They are not the same group is the very short answer. You assuming that anyone who has a penis would automatically have solidarity regardless of the infinite number of factors that make our interests different, does not make sense to me. Thank you acknowledging this. So when men on here complain about no one caring about men, I will remind them they mean people don’t care about certain men in mind and actually have as much indifference towards other men as they complain others do. Just look at h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:53 AM
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Maybe if you are talking about 25+ women I would agree. But college girls in North America, even in small towns dress the same on a night out. The most conservatively dressed women I’ve come across in North America were in Utah actually do the all the Mormons. But I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:18 AM
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Yeah. Girls in large cities in the western world literally dress the same everywhere I’ve been. I have no idea why she is acting like Canada is super conservative in comparison, because that’s completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:57 AM
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Your attitude is very refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:39 AM
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Europeans have been doing this in developing world for hundreds of years at this point. I am not excusing any violence against anyone and feel terrible for all victims, but Europeans commit despicable behavior in the developing world all the time and no one ever uses that as a slight against them. Not to mention the thousands of bombs they drop on developing countries to this day and then complain when the same people whose countries they destabilized become refugees or are forced to immigrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:19 AM
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Neither do other men too apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:10 AM
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Instead, you have Englishmen filming themselves raping 6 year old girls in Thailand and German men kidnapping children to violently rape in Cambodia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:05 AM
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Anytime the issue of sex tourism gets brought up and how it’s fueling sex trafficking, many western men will loudly scream how it’s not ok to generalize all western men traveling to or living in developing countries as sex tourists and criminals. But suddenly now its fine to label all male refugees/immigrabts as terrorists and rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:46 PM
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I’m from Latin America. I don’t have any opinion about refugee/immigrant policy, I just find it interesting that negative “misandrists” stereotypes against men become acceptable when it’s aimed at out group men. In my mother’s home country tourist men from Europe and USA regularly come to rape children and participate in sex tourism for example. But if were try to ban those men they would throw a fit about us generalizing all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:33 PM
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This question was not aimed solely at American men but all men including those from Europe or else, and they had the same response. If worrying about violence against men and their personal safety was sole reason, why do they (including in my post btw) only post stories about immigrants/refugees raping or murdering women/children as a reason why they should be kept out? I brought solidarity because many men on are here constantly complain that nobody cares about men, so I wanted see if they them…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:28 PM
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Girl why are you lying. I’ve been to Vancouver and Toronto and know girls just like that there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:01 PM
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Why is that in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:20 AM
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“Many”? The only people saw talking about cooking with Kya were black peoples of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:20 AM
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By online I’m mainly talking about Twitter. Everyone I see posting against her or for her is black. I haven’t really see any racial comments, which makes me believe people’s issue with is more gender rather than race but I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:07 PM
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I didn’t know who cooking with Kya was until now, but looking at the discourse online it mainly or entirely seems to be other black people who take issue with what she’s doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:30 PM
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Part 2: Boys’ issues in education, mental health, and socialization have been consistently sidelined in favor of addressing girls’ struggles. For example, the U.S. spends millions annually on initiatives to empower girls in STEM, yet there are no equivalent programs to address boys’ growing disengagement in education. This systemic neglect directly contributes to the very social deficits you’re blaming on parents. You didn’t cite a study so I wasn’t going to respond but this just really proves y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:48 AM
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You know what the hell, since I caught you blatantly lying about several studies, and I’m bored I’ll do a rebuttal of all your points. This is a reductive take that ignores both broader sociocultural dynamics and the empirical evidence about male alienation. Your argument relies on the false premise that individual behavior is solely responsible for broader societal trends. This completely ignores decades of research in sociology and psychology showing that external structures, like societal nar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:48 AM
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This is a shallow dismissal of the very real issues men face in modern dating. Online dating apps are infamous for exacerbating gender disparities in the dating market. Research by Bruch et al. (2016) found that women receive the majority of attention on these platforms, with the top 20% of men monopolizing nearly all female interest. For average men, Tinder and similar apps are a wasteland of rejection, amplifying their feelings of inadequacy and alienation. Except the study did not say that at…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:22 AM
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Because men by and large don’t care about these issues. There was someone that posted on here a while back about how a domestic violence shelter for men only eventually got shut down despite every best effort to promote it because too few men were using it. Guys were still twisting themselves in the comments trying to somehow blame feminism for this. The truth for MRAs that they need to accept is that for most men who are anti feminist it’s because they prefer return to patriarchy not because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:21 AM
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You wrote a post on here, completely mischaracterizing our messages, you claimed women ghost you after offering advice, that did not happen with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:30 AM
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Yeah woah, I proved he was lying which further proves my point, nothing he says can be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:26 AM
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Stop lying. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:25 AM
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I’ve responded and I said I think he’s lying. Since I personally have had messages with him before and he lied in his characterization of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:37 PM
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There were way more negative comments earlier before the post went very viral and more positive comments popped up drowning out the negative ones. There’s a reason why you keep seeing comments talking about the terrible comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:33 PM
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Considering the fact that I’ve blatantly seen you lie on here before, I am not sure I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:27 PM
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No doubt it depends on the person, but in general it doesn’t work on the average person. If it did, we wouldn’t have an obesity crisis in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:36 PM
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It depends on the man, a man responding to your comment says it doesn’t work on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:31 PM
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Ironically this doesn’t even work, insulting fat people just makes them feel bad about themselves and double down on their poor eating habits for comfort. Positive encouragement is better at changing behavior then ‘eww your fat comments’ in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:59 PM
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Even in urban areas feminism is not rampant or even mainstream yet they still complain. I don’t see how rates of child marriage in urban areas vs rural areas is relevant when one of the main issues is the laws permitting it happen in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:11 AM
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Except these guys aren’t just talking about western society but their own societies and women as well when they rant about the evils of feminism. I’ve seen men in countries where child marriage is still rampant demonizing feminist from their countries. Heck you even had the Taliban defending Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:50 AM
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The reason young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies isn't because of any kind of "brainwashing" by the media or influencers. It's simply because these spaces are the only places where young men can receive basic human decency and have their voices heard. See maybe I would buy this argument more if it wasn’t for the fact that I’ve noticed a large amount of support for these redpill influencers like Andrew Tate and manosphere accounts in general also come from men living non w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:38 AM
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If most men didn't have a scarcity mentality and weren't too focused on getting laid, they would actually have the upper hand when it comes to dating and relationships because men tend to bring more to the table than women, unfortunately. Women generally bring their bodies and not much else, whereas a man brings his body and everything else that makes things interesting like interesting conversation, intelligenceand so on. But most men are too focused on simping and catering to entitled and self…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:48 AM
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No, but it shows your by and large assertion is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:50 AM
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Please search Rollo Tomassi’s Twitter account (godfather of redpill) with the words childless or single women to see you are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:43 AM
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Did you read the link? It literally says because men die earlier than women. The fact that men and women tend to be single at very different stages of life reflects both men’s shorter life expectancy and their tendency to marry later in life than women. The poster you responded to is correct per the study you cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:40 AM
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Yes? It’s well known that married people vote more rw than single people. It’s one the reasons why conservatives always freak out about declining marriage rates. https://www.newsweek.com/americas-marriage-gap-was-full-display-2024-election-opinion-1990200
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:06 PM
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Married men are more likely to vote rw then single men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:01 PM
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Bad News then since republicans are the ones who have blocked democrats repeatedly from making the draft gender neutral. And that’s not going to change under Trump since the sex pest he nominated as secretary of defense wants to ban women from combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:41 PM
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Any source for these stats? Just out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:21 PM
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gender neutral conscription Op you realize republicans are the ones who have blocked democrats repeatedly from making the draft gender neutral right? And that’s not going to change under Trump since the sex pest he nominated as secretary of defense wants to ban women from combat?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:05 PM
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The chart is outdated, use the recent data from GSS: https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:53 AM
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This is interesting because I see WW getting tons of criticism from the left all the time, some of it fair other times it feels excessive. Yet it has never really bothered me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:15 PM
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Apathy is big problem, a lot have become cynical and given up. But women did not overwhelmingly vote Trump, even with WW he only got over a little half. Men overwhelmingly voted Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:13 PM
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What’s your point? Most people don’t vote, but of those who did, most women voted for Harris not Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:47 PM
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Have politicians say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:46 PM
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How does the left not care about you? Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:08 PM
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Women did not overwhelmingly vote for Trump, what are you talking about? Men just vote right wing at such a higher % that it cancels out any women’s vote for the left. This isn’t new either. Since the 80s men have voted overwhelmingly rw in every election.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:53 PM
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im not speaking of the politicians. i could likely find some if i wanted, but again, not what i am speaking of. So powerful people who intact laws, their thoughts don’t matter at all. But.. > i am speaking of their base. people online, their supporters, the general discourse. how online forums, like reddit for instance, dont regulate misandry they literally do not consider it something they need to deal with. Random people online matter. You probably just see what you want to see. Rampant misogy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:47 PM
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Awesome. Keep that same energy about men whining about ‘misandrist’ jokes on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:14 PM
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Let me ask you something. If democrats a female candidate that had accused by multiple men of raping them, was called a good friend by a prolific female child rapist of boys and was accused of rape by a boy. Would you be making excuses like you are now for the people voting for her? Would you be saying this isn’t proof misandry is accepted in our society?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:42 PM
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Man, you can’t even say you denounce. Feminism exist because of these men. You want feminist to be nicer to men without denouncing the men who make feminism stronger with their words and action.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:29 PM
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Not just rape, but the violent misogyny. He threatened to rape women. You haven’t said if denounced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:19 PM
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In most cases it definitely isn't done by the same men. Most of them are different groups. And when it does come from the same men they blame the women who do the same stuff as them. It largely is. You have guys on here saying they voted for Trump because liberals are too mean them. But Trumps side saying insane shit about other groups is just dismissed as jokes and told you are being a sensitive snowflake for caring. People can dish out but can’t take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:04 PM
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You still haven’t said if you denounce those comments or say if they contribute to worsening gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:02 PM
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They themselves may not be nazis or rapist, but morally they are willing to overlook those things which shows what their character is. Trump was called a close friend by Jeffrey Epstein and was identified by one of his victims having raped a 14 year old girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:39 PM
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Your argument is that prominent politicians are an accurately representative microcosm of the wider population? And you wonder why you are not taken seriously? Lmfao If what they said weren’t acceptable they would not gotten votes and been forced to drop out. The fact they were not, shows it is in fact acceptable. Politics is downstream of culture, the culture shows they think rape is fine. Liberal abuse is why the liberal voter base fell off by over 10 million votes. Trump did not win by growin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:24 PM
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Rhetoric denounced? These guys got votes, it was obviously ok with them. Feminist have made man hating rhetoric go unchecked for literally decades and you're comparing that to a niche figure saying some unhinged shit and a political party that was voted in mostly out of spite? Having millions of followers, hanging out with celebrities and politicians makes you niche figure? Being an elected official is a niche figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:16 PM
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Not just rape, but violent misogyny. We have prominent rwingers celebrating on the internet writing about how they cannot wait to start raping women yet you want to pearl clutch about misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:37 PM
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The internet has always been a brutal place, and I don’t think anyone should denigrated for who they are. Its just hard to take some men who pearl clutch about misandry serious when they will call other people ‘snowflakes’ if someone negatively reacts to a racist or sexist jokes. For example when I list examples of misogny on the internet like, men celebrating they can rape women calling to repeal the 19th amendment celebrating a man who was besties with a child rapist (Jeffrey Epstein), calling…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:33 PM
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All these men are prominent rw figures or politicians. We have spent two days now of guys saying meanie liberals are why they voted a rapist con man into office, yet they don’t consider rwingers celebrating how they can’t wait to rape women to be divisive contributing worsening gender relationships but expect us to pearl clutch about liberals being too mean to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:24 PM
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How can we have unity when you don’t denounce people like this? Remember this guy isn’t a fringe figure, celebrities and politicians hang with him. Your side celebrates wanting to rape women yet you call for unity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:22 PM
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What do you think of these men: Wechave republicans celebrating, they can rape women calling to repeal the 19th amendment celebrating a man who was besties with a child rapist (Jeffrey Epstein), calling women who get abortions whores and saying women need to learn to shut up. And much more. Do you think they contribute to worsening gender relationships or do you just don’t give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:28 AM
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Which misandry did the democrats spew? Name a politician who said anything misandrists. Meanwhile, we have republicans celebrating, they can rape women calling to repeal the 19th amendment celebrating a man who was besties with a child rapist (Jeffrey Epstein), calling women who get abortions whores and saying women need to learn to shut up. Name me a single democrat politician or spokesperson who said anything similar about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:17 AM
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Abortion laws passed in every red state in cycle, except Florida where you need 60% (it got 58%) to pass everything. Its very popular, most people don’t like some dying due septic pregnancies or 10 year old rape victims being forced to give birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:02 AM
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I didn’t say ‘redpill’ ideology was the reason why he killed his wife, like I said we don’t know his motive, but his belief in manosphere ideology seemed to have caused tension in his marriage according to his friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:30 PM
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Right? Like the only way his logic makes sense is if we have a large problem with grown men preying on teenage girls, as that’s the only way girls that age could be way more ‘experienced’ then boys their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:43 PM
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Tiktok? The same site where Andrew Tate and other redpill creators blew up? You act as though redpill content doesn’t exist there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:48 PM
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Not every action the women take in the show is shown in a flattering light either. They are meant to be flawed humans. A better comparison to the show would be Mad Men or Ballers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:25 PM
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You’ve never seen any men celebrated and admired for his academic success? One of my friends little brothers was accepted into MIT and that was considered a huge deal. Nobody mocked him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:49 PM
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I’ve never heard a woman say a man sleeping around makes him more attractive to her. Fair point—there is a difference between admiration and attraction. And sure, not everyone is aiming to be remembered for centuries, but a lot of guys who focus on personal growth or mastering a skill still attract genuine respect and attention from others without needing fame. It’s not about trying to be “great” by society’s standards, but about building something real and meaningful in your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:41 PM
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Good for you! That’s a good mentality to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:36 PM
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It’s not that I think one or the other is more ‘worthy’ of praise, it’s more about an observation about what ‘society’ aka people admire the most in men. And contrary to popular belief, I don’t believe a man’s sexcapades is what people value the most about them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:56 PM
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I get where you’re coming from about the social legitimacy of famous figures versus the everyday guy. It’s true, not everyone will reach the heights of an Einstein or Mandela, but admiration and respect don’t just belong to celebrities. I’ve known plenty of regular guys—friends, family, colleagues—who earned admiration for things like doing well in sports, achieving academic goals, etc. They’re celebrated for hard work, loyalty, and dedication, not for some high-profile status. What I have never…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:46 PM
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Meanwhile when guys express how selective they are with women, that they didn't pursue someone because they weren't sufficiently physically attracted to them or found them boring or irritating or felt they were being used or whatever, they're very often excoriated for being too picky, reminded that they're not perfect, and the insinuation is that they would be lucky to be with the women they have turned down. And if they're struggling to meet women, or meeting women who treat them like shit, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:40 AM
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Oh so your a hypocrite. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:34 PM
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Really? Then men ‘body shame’ women on a daily basis by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:05 PM
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Are men who prefer women with big butts or boobs ‘body shaming” women with small boobs or butts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:47 AM
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Then how come more men die from obesity related diseases if they are more physically fit on average? > Among Black individuals, women had higher AAMRs than men; across all other racial groups, men had a greater proportion of obesity‐related cardiovascular mortality cases and higher AAMRs. Black individuals had greater AAMRs in urban compared with rural settings; the reverse was observed for all other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:14 PM
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More men then women die from obesity related diseases, saying they are more physically fit on average is a stretch. Among Black individuals, women had higher AAMRs than men; across all other racial groups, men had a greater proportion of obesity‐related cardiovascular mortality cases and higher AAMRs. Black individuals had greater AAMRs in urban compared with rural settings; the reverse was observed for all other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:14 PM
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Interesting, so would say most men are more attractive than the women in these videos? https://youtu.be/hEcxnxjBZco?si=RljCjMiZ8nU11yrc https://youtu.be/m9TLP96VYoc?si=Sb8Xwkhpjbl-3Mlk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:39 PM
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Maybe you just find fat men more attractive then fat women. The obesity difference between men and women aren’t large enough for what you are saying to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:32 PM
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The likely next president of the USA for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:09 PM
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Average price for escorts in Europe: https://np.reddit.com/r/mapporncirclejerk/comments/15s1sss/average_daily_price_of_an_escort_in_europe/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:14 PM
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The cheapest is $300 which Op used for the equation. Anything below that, the woman is likely being sex trafficked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:36 PM
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Then how come older 65+ women have the highest rates as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:02 PM
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I personally don't see how women can be so blinded by someone's looks that they'll sleep with a bozo but to each their own. Poor impulse control, low self esteem or perhaps not used to getting male attention by decent looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:20 AM
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Married women are more likely to be on anti depressants than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:21 PM
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Taller men aren’t very common in Mexico and Latin America in general, so it would be unreasonable to expect a 6ft tall man when they are at best 1% of the population. In terms of height, do you think men who prefer short or petite women are insecure about their masculinity 🤔?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:03 AM
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Female obesity is not significantly higher than male obesity. She’s right, if your truly good looking, you should be able to attract good looking women your age unless you live in the middle of nowhere or some economically poor area where people let themselves go fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:57 AM
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Western/Central European men are the least likely to be concerned with n count in my experience. He is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:51 PM
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The majority of cases involving teacher abusing students involve male teachers. This is despite the fact male teachers are a lower percentage of the teacher population. So I don’t know how your links contradict her point: Men also made up the vast majority of the arrests with nearly 82%. Men also made up the vast majority, with over 80% of the arrests. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/at-least-269-k-12-educators-arrested-child-sex-crimes-first-9-months-year.amp https://www.foxnews.com/us/nearly-…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:54 PM
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I remember seeing a poll which said 50% of people here are virgins, which does seem very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:07 PM
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Do you think Western countries will catch up to Asian countries? One reason why people lose their virginities in Asia later, in my experience, is because dating during adolescence isn’t very common, since your expected to be focusing on your studies. So people won’t have their first bf or gf until after high school in many cases. But this depends on the region.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:07 PM
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I've only known 5 of them, but they were all the same. Which makes your anecdote useless. Where did you meet these Scandinavian woman? Could be selection bias. My Swedish friend is nothing like you described for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:03 PM
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I have family from an Asian country, and it really depends on what country you are talking about because few women I know are virgins past age 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:13 PM
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You think I wanted to hear this answer from him? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:58 AM
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He’s saying this happened before he became famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:27 PM
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I agree, but the man relying this anecdotal about his younger years, is an actor and rapper.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:24 PM
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Yeah I don’t where u/ThorLives gets the notion that WM BW couples are rarely depicted in mainstream media. Same with WM AW couples, like wasn’t the recent Shogun tv show centered around such coupling?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:10 PM
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I like Jason Momoa, Henry Cavill isn’t my type either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:06 PM
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Your not a typical man then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:46 PM
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He’s not my type because I prefer men with darker hair and skin but I recognize he’s above average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:43 PM
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How about Instagram models? Pornstars?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:08 PM
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Not sure how this relevant, but wasn’t the recent Disney Ariel movie, Spider-Man movies, Dune, etc show WM BW couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:56 PM
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I’m seen post by guys implying every abusive man is an attractive Chad. Which just doesn’t match my reality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:40 PM
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Also the type of women that post on reddit aren't the type of women the top 20% of men go after so it makes sense that a lot of women that post on reddit pretend to not like Chads. Don’t guy say here that every women has had sex with Chad at least once in her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:33 PM
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There is perhaps a ratio of looks/personality So personality matters? I was under the impression that ‘Chads’ were basically sex gods who can be complete scum of the earth, social awkward etc but still get tons of women by looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:32 PM
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He’s not my type, but he’s a more realistic answer of what Chad looks like since it’s not uncommon to come across men who look like that daily basis then male models.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:30 PM
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Interesting data, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:25 PM
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Male supremacist communities, whose members portray themselves as victims of an oppressive system that favors women, latched onto Devlin’s reworked concept of “hypergamy.” The concept of hypergamy originally emerged from Hindu law in the 19th century and described women marrying men from a higher caste or class. For women in patriarchal societies where they cannot work or own property, this practice is the only available avenue for financial security and protection. https://www.splcenter.org/hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:36 AM
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Ok so i googled this book, it was published in 2015, That’s an updated version, the original was published in 2006.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:22 AM
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Not in the redpill sense, hypergamy referred to simply marrying above your economic class, the redpill definition twisted that to fit a much broader definition. F Rogers Delvin was the first to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:20 PM
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There is no central red pill figure or leader. The red pill is not a movement, a faction, or a political party. The sole purpose of the red pill is to reveal the ugly truth about female nature that is it. These ‘ugly truths’ about female nature were ‘revealed’ were first developed and spread by original redpill thought leaders. F Rogers Delvin who developed the whole hypergamy theory, that only a small number of men are getting laid in his book Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:03 PM
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Didn’t when he first became popular there were multiple posts on here on how his rise to fame is proof the redpill has become mainstream?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:00 PM
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So you have no evidence that “men pay basically all of the taxes.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:25 AM
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Source for basically all taxes are paid by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:25 AM
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Men in general are more likely to talk to, date, and make friends with immigrants and people different to them. Is there a source for this? That seems like a wild generalization, liberal women are not more racist liberal men in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:48 PM
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There’s has especially for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:47 PM
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This is just the first definition I came across and it looks more like a synonym for 'blue hair' or 'crazy cat lady' to me. If you are on Swedish twitter, you would know that insult also encompasses these type of women the far right talks about. There's a Reddit thread on the term: https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/xdfyjw/what_do_you_think_of_this_term_batikh%C3%A4xor_very/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:04 AM
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I have a post on stats international marriages. The number of men and women who marry foreigners is pretty close to 50/50 according to the study I quoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:02 AM
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This post and the comments are examples this sentiment being expressed a lot in some far right circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:04 AM
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They want to appear kind and generous and virtuous, but no they do not want to fuck migrants lmaoo I am not the one who made that up, that is a genuine belief some far right anti immigrant men hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:23 PM
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Have you tried different dating apps? Based on your post history you mainly seem to be using tinder which is trash. I would recommend trying hinge or bumble if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:11 PM
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There's this whole thing where far right anti immigrant men believe liberal women are welcoming male refugees because they want to have sex with them. They even have name for them in places like Sweden, they call them ‘batikhäxa’ or batik witches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:33 PM
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Has the backlash manifested in more women in Poland voting for far right anti refugees parties because of Ukrainian refugees?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:27 PM
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This is what many anti immigration men say online as well, I see many memes like these about it: https://x.com/shitpostgate/status/1743988253919703330?s=46 https://x.com/WilkowMajority/status/1818280263467852009 https://x.com/GarbageHuman24/status/1744727128321720706 https://x.com/RusGarbageHuman/status/1809383214600908891 Yet I don't really see online hate towards specifically female refugees from women unlike the hate men have for male refugees/immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:21 PM
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I do not however have any solidarity with the economic migrants crossing the channel in dinghies, claiming to be asylum seekers despite having left safe country to get here, nor the influx of citizens from the common wealth who have flooded here since the Europeans went home. Does that include both the men and women? Or only the men? I'm asking because I have seen many posts by men proclaiming to be anti immigrantion saying they would be pro immigration if all immigrants were women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:17 PM
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Then why do these men constantly accuse women who support refugees of secretly wanting to have sex with male refugees as their main motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:15 PM
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Is their male hostility towards Ukrainian female refugees though? People have noted their has been less backlash and hate towards Ukrainian refugees in Western countries partly because they are mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:10 PM
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I said “conventional” for a reason, conventional doesn't always mean true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:04 PM
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I don't have strong feelings either way, its just a discussion I've seen on social media and wondered what other peoples thoughts on the matter were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:56 PM
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They did link studies tbf, but I understand it's a bias source. That why I included a comment which argued they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:53 PM
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I've seen mixed data on whether or not single dad households are better off then single mother, a comment I linked in the op says that's actually not the case, so I don't know what to think. But in general single fathers are meet with less hostility and controversy. So I wonder in cases where parents breakup, would those who deride single mothers support giving the fathers primary custody instead? Especially boys, since theirs this belief women can't raise boys on their own and many issues facin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:51 PM
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I find this debate about whether women like bad boys or not to tedious, since there doesn't seem to consistent definition of what “bad boys” are from those who claim women prefer them. For some, they mean actual violent criminals, which is for sure insane, as only women grew up in a violent area or violent household would prefer such men. For others bad boys just means guys who act like douchebags, has gotten into minor trouble before (smokes weed etc) or purely an aesthetic thing (has tattoos, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:42 PM
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No, I’ve seen your pictures before because I remember you posting them on another subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:58 PM
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Having seen your pictures, I don’t think you have much room to be talking about who’s ugly or not, no offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:59 PM
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Dating sites decades ago were actually more likely to have balanced gender ratios. Tinder use to have a nearly 50/50 gender ratio when it first launched for example, as the novelty is more likely to attract more women at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:20 PM
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But the gender ratio on this site was even more lopsided than most dating apps and hookup apps. Tinder is 70% men 30% women, while Ashley Madison was at minimum 90% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:12 PM
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Sex isn’t a need the same way hunger is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:55 PM
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Fantastical because they guys like the guy I linked are imagining scenarios where sex robots completely replace women. I’m just like, if you believe male horniness and thirst is such a persuasive problem, why not just eliminate your sex drive so you are no longer tempted by these feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:47 PM
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I mean that seems to what you guys are saying it comes down to. Each explanation of why they want sex robots to replace women is because they think male horniness and thirst is just so strong to defeat ‘gynocentrism.’ Why not just eliminate your sex drive if you believe this, so you are no longer have these temptations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:44 PM
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If male horniness is a problem to you guys, wouldn’t promoting men taking drugs to lower their sex drives and libido be better? Instead of these fantastical scenarios of sex robots replacing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:32 PM
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This seems more like a list you think is true either based on experience or some stuff you’ve internalized from being online rather than being universally true. Case in point, I see a lot ‘below average’ men in relationships so it doesn’t seem not being ugly is universally a requirement for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:29 PM
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Why? Do they think society is ‘gynocentric’ because men want to have sex and relationships with women? If they believe society is unfairly stacked against men wouldn‘t a civil rights movement be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:19 PM
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Its not just inc*ls, saying this, you even have redpill godfathers like Rollo Tomassi saying the samething.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:16 PM
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The study doesn’t say women are catching up but there has slight increase in such relationships but in Europe only not the US. Regarding education, it’s mixed. Women who marry men from Mexico/Latin America are on average less educated vs those who marry men from Western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:53 PM
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Are you from a western or non western country?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:27 PM
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It also really kinda kills the idea this prevailing idea I see in some quarters that western women somehow date with some greater sense of moral fibre than their male counterparts. What do you mean? Are you talking about age gap relationships? Because yes the data indicates western women are significantly less likely to marry younger men even even if they are from developing countries vs their male counterparts but there has been in a slight increase in such couplings in Europe (but not the USA,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:21 PM
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Well I’m not Western, I don’t know a lot about this topic until now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:58 AM
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Intermarriage with men from those countries (excluding Morocco) is still quite small, most Spanish women who intermarry are doing it Western European men the most often. These unions just show the most gender asymmetry not necessarily are the most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:17 AM
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By Asian I assume you mean East and SEA? Gender disparity was not only seen with Asians, in Spain for example the largest gender disparity in foreign mate selection among men was with women from Russia and Latin America (excluding Argentina). While among women it was with men from Africa and the Middle East.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:49 AM
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Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:01 AM
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Sure, it's all about hypergamy, basically. So you think these results confirm aspects of the redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:34 AM
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Can you expand on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:16 AM
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There is no mention of race, only ethnicity and I hope everyone keeps that discussion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:14 PM
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At no point did I make that argument, i literally only quote the study and summarize the results. If you carefully read it, you would know western women are not only just marrying western men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:13 PM
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I don't think it has to do with competition and wanting to push other women out, I think it's a response to corporate sucking the fucking life out of you and wanting a way out. Then how come they always push this idea that women specifically aren’t meant to do these jobs? If it was just about wanting to expose how toxic corporate work culture is, they wouldn’t make it a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:40 PM
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The elite office job environment is super woke. They (tradcons) believe this is because there are too many women in these spaces, so having less women would solve this problem. So I think your theory is garbage. I think the tradwife idea is just people unhappy with what's going on today and looking back at an ideal of the past that never existed. Cultures go through this stuff all the time. So how come when it’s come pushing the ‘unhappy career woman who would be better off being married and a S…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:32 PM
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Yeah that’s big point I’m trying to make. When people say women didn’t work, they really mean women use to have less access to prestigious or high status jobs. So when tradcons talk about wanting return to when women didn’t work, they really mean they want less women working prestigious jobs, but not less women working ‘low status’ jobs, as they don’t have a problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:16 PM
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Not in my experience. People working white collar or high status jobs unless it’s in a highly specialized field are you usually less stressed than those who work minimum wage jobs, as their jobs are more likely to be remote, better pay and have more benefits. My main point isn’t talk about if working elite or high status jobs is great or not, but that conservatives/tradcon specifically obsess over this group of women when it’s comes to pushing their tradwife nonsense, but ignore a lot women work…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:11 PM
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Honestly the notion of miserable career women is not something I’ve come across a lot. Most people I know working office jobs are much happier then those who work low wage dead end jobs at Walmart or as a waitress. Like the people I know who are the happiest and most content are people working office jobs remotely. The most stressed women I know are usually those who work as nurses, teachers or low minimum wage jobs not cushy office jobs at multinational corporations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:47 PM
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Nope, I don't care about such people unless I come across someone who makes some kind of problem with me, as I said before. I seen you several times make offensive generalizations about western women, I even showed example. It’s obvious you care enough to have strong opinion on them. I definitely hate many aspects of western culture but that's not about women specifically. Yeah I can tell. What they believe doesn't matter. Not their country, not their culture, not their relationship. Do people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:06 AM
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I didn't have any ax until some western woman made a problem with me today. 99% of my life I don't even think about what random western women think. So one western women set you off? I really doubt that since looking at your post history this resentment towards western women is something you’ve likely been harboring for a while. And it’s pretty obvious in the way you write and approach this conversation. It's totally fair for me to use a personal experience to open a debate / discussion about so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:27 AM
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Nothing to do with what I said. Also, not true, but irrelevant. I could hate all western women ( I don't ) but it won't make my points invalid. It largely does, because I can tell your not having this discussion in good faith but have an obvious axe to grind. Like it’s pretty interesting you can make offensive generalizations like this about whole groups of people: Your average, overweight, unattractive American woman thinks she's entitled to the hottest guy in a club with hundreds of people. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:25 AM
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Sorry to ruin your circle jerk about how amazing Europeans are. Imao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:09 AM
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Honestly op from reading your post history you seem to have harbor some type of massive chip on your shoulder regarding western women. I’ve seen you make wild generalizations and offensive comments against them. But at the time you get angry when people make generalizations against non western men or passport bros. The jokes write themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:58 AM
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No the trend literally started with them… they were first to start this conversation. Maybe Europeans aren’t as smart as you think they are. imao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:17 PM
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The video that started this debate was based in European country. Imao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:29 PM
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This debate started because of a tiktok video interviewing women in an European country went viral online. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:28 PM
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You realize this debate started based on a tiktok video in an European country right? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:28 PM
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Nah I don’t think you guys are actually reading what people are saying on social media. They are blaming sexpats and passport bros. Which in turn is increasing negative attitude towards westerner tourists in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:47 AM
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I’m basing my opinion off of what people on are saying on social media not just my relatives. Did you the video of the Colombian lawyer talking about that guy who was caught with two underage girls? She was explicitly blaming passport bros for why this growing problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:32 PM
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Bad behavior by immigrants is what's fueling the far right in Europe. Bad behavior by tourists and expats is fueling anti-western sentiment. I see a lot more online thanks to the passport bro movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:24 PM
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I am not lumping the worst kind of criminals with passport bros, I'm saying the general public is blaming passport bros explicitly for why there has been a rise in sex tourism in the country targeting both women and children. I even said whether this fair or not, is debatable, but people are now aware of the passport bro movement and blame them for why these types of men are traveling to the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:22 PM
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Debating the semantics about who is a passport bro or not is pointless, the general public is blaming them for why sex tourist are coming to the country and that is making them angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:11 PM
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It doesn't really matter or not if these guys are actually passport bros, the general public is blaming passport bros for why men like this are coming to the country in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:10 PM
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People aren’t just angry about them stealing women but blame them for the increase in exploitation of not just not women but children. I don’t think I can understate how much outrage that case of a passport bro caught with two underage girls generated online. Even the president of the country was talking about it. I’m seeing more hostility towards westerners, western men in particular as a result. Its the same way the far right in Europe is growing thanks to the bad behavior of some immigrant me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:20 PM
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Not really, most don’t have negative or positive opinion of other men due to a lack of interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:14 PM
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Western men use to have a good reputation but that’s changing fast now, that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:10 PM
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I’m pointing out people are explicitly angry about passport bros in my relatives countries and it’s actually hurting western men’s reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:00 PM
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Exactly. So many of these guys think feminism for example doesn’t exist in Latin America, when all what my young female cousins can post about are femicides and abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:58 PM
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It’s not new, but what’s new is the increased hostility towards these men due to how they behave, ironically if they kept quiet people would care a lot less but them being loud about it has made a lot people angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:57 PM
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Sex tourist rebranded basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:55 PM
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Passport bro movement is basically an extension of those things, you see it in these guys attitudes towards the third world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:55 PM
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People actually use to have a somewhat positive opinion of western tourists, that’s changing fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:54 PM
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When it comes to narrative that family court is bias against fathers, most of the time these guys are relying on anecdotal evidence usually cherry-picked horror stories online where guys were screwed over and saying that’s the norm. The interesting thing is you can also find horror stories about women being screwed over my family court, like that case in Utah were kids were forced to live with their father despite credible evidence he was sexually abusing them thanks to controversial theory of ‘…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:24 AM
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Some random YouTuber isn’t good enough evidence. I’ve already listed a bunch of sources that give more accurate numbers you can’t rely the word of one politician they lie all the time for motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:59 AM
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You know in order to get something passed as law you would have to show evidence and not hearsay. Do you have any evidence he’s close to getting this law passed? I’ve done research and found nothing about this, care to link? All I’m saying is based on the recent evidence we have by experts in this field paternity fraud rates are nowhere near 30%, and that number is based on outdated studies or biased studies on self secting groups (men who already suspect they aren’t the father). I couldn't imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:45 AM
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That’s much smaller then 30% and more recent data shows the numbers even lower which are not high enough to justify it being treated like a widespread problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:00 AM
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He is trying to get the bill passed some time soon so it wouldn't make sense to use old data. I Welp I’m telling you based on all the recent data we have 33% number is nowhere near accurate. It’s often cited because it makes paternity fraud look more rampant then it actual is, which he’s probably using to gain support for his law. But recent data by experts show this number is inaccurate. There is a common view that misattributed paternity is widespread in Western societies, between ten and 30 p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:59 AM
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33% of of men were unknowingly raising children that wasn't theirs. Those numbers are misleading, that’s for men who already suspect they are not the father or based on older data which is unreliable. When you do random testing on the larger population the numbers range from less to 1% to 3% in most studies. A 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found a range in incidence, around the world, from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%).[5] However, as many of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:04 PM
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Politician may disregard the constitution but that doesn’t it mean the courts will. All it takes it one person suing for discrimination or saying their rights were being violated for the law to be challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:41 PM
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I made no comments either way. You are obviously reading too much into “redpill dream law” title.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:56 PM
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So how should paternity tests be paid for in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:47 PM
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if they're not your cup of tea that's fine, who cares? you don't have to engage with them. They are care because these girls are the perfect personification according to large amount manosphere accounts, of everything wrong with western women and why men are looking overseas for wives. https://x.com/imcoolchristian/status/1762482544182694263?s=46
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:53 AM
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The racial angle isn’t something I thought about but until I saw more tweets that were more blunt about it. He claims in another tweet to love Latinas though, to which one Latina girl said he would have heart attack at any carnival set in Latin America if he finds these dancing girls scandalous lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:32 AM
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Yes, that’s the full video.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:50 PM
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Considering the amount of self-reporting women give on their dating woes, it seems like it'll just be exacerbated. ​ People of all walks of life complain about dating. If you see only videos of women complaining your probably seeking them out or your algorithm is skewed towards showing that content. But are these girls specifically the ones you see complaining about dating or how they have hard time getting bfs? ​ High-status men are not just the 1%. They can be popular children at school, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:19 PM
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They won't just be "single", they'll just be increasingly marginalized in the mating market and socially degraded due to increasing normalization of cultural misogyny among men. Like, you can ignore this as much as you want, but the reality is that the cultural scripts have changed even from just 4 years ago. What do you mean by this? Do you think their peers like follow gen z males will refuse to date them or these girls will have hard time getting bfs? I don't think you've ever seen the ideolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:34 PM
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I did give a name, Chase Austin, who posted the original viral tweet. I also posted others examples, you can click the links to see their names.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:54 PM
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The video went viral in the first place because someone from the redpill sphere posted it first which lead to other redpill commenters giving their opinions which went viral. The controversy surrounding the video first came from redpillers which is why I thought it would be appropriate to post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:46 PM
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> That being said, this was primarily a meme / shit post type of thing, and was meant with sarcasm. Because there wasn't 15 paragraphs of ranting. I thought that at first, but if look at the guys other tweets and retweet’s he actually seems to be dead serious about his opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:27 PM
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My post originally got flagged as well but a moderator approved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:26 PM
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That’s why I said ‘some‘ not all redpillers. The original tweet went viral online and many redpillers were giving their thoughts on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:33 PM
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Yes, but why has the tradcon fraction of the manosphere been the most successful yet so far in terms of exposure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:31 PM
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They believe child support laws are unfair because some women “baby trap” men or they have to pay too much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:29 PM
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Ok, and it's pretty clear at this point modern feminism is just a power grab by any and all means necessary. Women have all the rights they could ask for. You can argue for ulterior motives all day and I can do the same but I don't think that's productive conversation. This isn't true, modern women have come a long way but the rise of certain radical political ideology could lead to many of the rights they fought for to be taken away. We see that Afghanistan, USA with overturn of roe v wade, Rus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:35 PM
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Can you describe this “women’s power” that they see as so objectionable, exactly? They call it ‘gynocracy,’ in their opinion (western) society is controlled by women’s preferences. They’ll use divorce laws, child support, media/entertainment etc as proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:30 PM
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Nah as someone who has family from a country that's targeted by a lot by these type of men I have a lot problems with them for numerous reasons and I can assure you a lot of the men in these countries don't like these guys either. So I fail to see how this is everyone benefits situation, only entitled western men benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:21 AM
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My bad I was thinking single parent rate which America and UK are easily the highest, wedlock doesn’t surprise me in modern times Maybr they are just the most accurate for as you can see outside of Africa, Muslim countries and Asia most children are born out of wedlock. It's the norm in many places and has been for decades. Your X link has a community note explaining the problem with the data, Americas divorce rate is 48% which is higher than plenty of countries. They said the problem with the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:37 PM
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I’m not sure about the other stats but America by far has the highest wedlock birth rates You would be wrong in that regard: https://archive-yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/out-wedlock-births-rise-worldwide https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/births-out-of-wedlock-europe-us/ https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/12/14/459098779/all-across-latin-america-unwed-mothers-are-now-the-norm Pretty sure divorce rates as well. You would also be wrong in that regard. https://x.com/stats_feed/status/1686024…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:28 PM
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It's true though women voted for open boarders and Democrats, things that are destroying the country. Open immigration has been happening under conservative and liberal presidents for decades. Ronald Reagan signed the biggest amnesty to illegal immigrants. The capital wants immigrants because they need more workers. Absolutely nothing would change if we had republican or democrat president in that regard. The welfare state is put in place for women by women at the expense of men. The welfare sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:13 PM
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The link is just a promotion of a grift? Everything RP you can read online and just see if it applies to your life. The equivalent would be some westbro Baptist type website and saying Christianity has been co-opted I’m sure it is a grift, like everything that comes from that sphere, but it's example of a movement created by redpillers that are advocating for the things I'm talking about. Going abroad isn’t really a traditional thing, but yes people encourage it because the women are better for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:09 PM
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You think only single childless women care about the wage gap and oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:56 PM
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Whether it's TRP or not a lot men who call themselves red pill promote this. They believe through political advocacy and a cultural revolution they can re-establish patriarchy again in the west, and force women to be submissive through cultural and legal enforcement. There's is even a red pill adjacent movement who stated goal is exactly this. https://21studios.com If not that, they promote men going abroad to find feminine submissive women, hence the passport bro movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:52 PM
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If you come across a lot these guys they sincerely seem to think banning women from the workplace and repealing the 19th admenment would solve 99% of world problems. It's quite scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:42 PM
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Some TRP feel tradcons are too blue pilled or even feminist because many still hold men‘s behavior to a high moral standard which they don’t like. That’s why you also get this weird mixed of guys who want all women to live like they are Amish but think men should live like 21st century playboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:38 PM
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Tradcons aren’t RP. There are no traditional women in America, The purpose of the tradcon movement seems to me they want to bring back traditional values. That’s why as I pointed out they support increasingly reactionary political positions that involve rolling back women’s rights, like repealing the 19th amendment, banning women from going to college etc. They basically want all women to live like the Amish. If not that, they promote men going to foreign countries to find submissive feminine wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:33 PM
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Bitching and complaining about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:28 PM
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Voting based on how hot someone is seems more to be male thing to me idk. My parents congresswoman is a hot mess of a person (Lauren Boebert) but they say a lot boomer guys keep voting for her because they think she’s hot. Women are also less likely to vote for war (Iraq, Afghanista, Gaza) to me that doesn’t point to men being more rational at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:27 PM
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Factually women should not be voting for numerous reasons, going to college etc. Can you explain why you believe this? I’ve seen thousands of conservatives and tradcons say this, and it all seems to come down to they think women are less logical because they don’t vote for far right politicians (at least nowadays) at the same rate as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:10 PM
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Are you only seeing these on X? No these videos are originally from tiktok which are reposted again on Twitter and yes YouTube as well. As a lot people seem to think they are real despite it being proven they are fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:06 PM
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A quick look doesn't show any of these types of posts on there. this is false, I showed a bunch in my post. A post got community noted by Twitter because it was found the ‘video’ they were posting were stolen by porn bots and created the fake texts about the women being lonely etc. The original videos have nothing like that. Plenty of actual videos out there of women actually talking about their struggles. If these videos are so easy to find why do red pill constantly have to rely on posting fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:42 PM
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I guess this is another attempt to exploit that niche. Which is smart of them since these videos always go very viral on social media. My main question is why? Why are these videos so popular in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:08 PM
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That's what i’m curious about... A lot these accounts link to porn sites. Why would porn sites try to advertise their site using videos like these unless this was common sexual fantasy for many men? But I don't know if the fantasy is that they want to ‘save’ the woman in the video or something else…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:01 PM
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i think casual sex is actually a lot less normalized in many european countries compared to the US and the data on average sexual life partners lifetime (per country) backs this up. Not in my experience at all, I lived in Latin America, Western Europe, and USA, and casual sex was by far the most prevalent in Europe. Number of sex partners by country indicates, Western Europe is slightly higher than the rest of the world. https://nypost.com/2023/10/20/heres-how-many-people-the-average-american-ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:34 PM
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Yes? Women didn’t rarely have sex outside of marriage back then. Hence the concept of shotgun weddings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:26 PM
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Interesting answer. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:36 AM
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Exactly. If anything finding a virgin in America is probably more likely due to all those religious fundie groups like Pentecostals, Amish and Mormons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:21 AM
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So average age of losing virginity in America is 17 and SEA is around 23. The average is 18 which is in line with most Western and Latin American countries ( the cultures I’m most familiar with). It's totally normal to find a 23 year old virgin in the Philippines for example and it would be considered weird to be a 23 year old virgin in America. Well the Philippines is a very conservative culture and represses women in many ways still. Divorce is illegal for example. Even then more than half of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:19 AM
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But the women today are having just as much sex as prostitutes, but they’re not charging money. Are suggesting the average woman is having as much sex with different as a Victorian prostitutes? Because that’s a pretty out there claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:12 AM
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The sexual revolution wasn’t women only thing, men wanted it too, hence playboy and the hippie movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:11 AM
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This is a great comment, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:58 PM
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What happens in America is that you have hordes of women chasing top men. Top men want sex and won't give commitment without sex, so women give up sex and then (most likely) get situationshipped or dumped. What’s the evidence of this? Every piece evidence such as surveys on the sexual behavior of men and women doesn’t support narrative. This just seems like something redpillers wish was true and repeat ad nauseam as if it’s established fact. This on a mass scale ends up with average women having…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:14 PM
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Yes, which is why I’m posting this question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:24 PM
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But when compared to women in the past and women outside the west, western women are insanely promiscuous. What’s the basis for this notion? In the past a much higher % of women worked as prostitutes vs today. This another line thinking I see a lot, that promiscuity in women today is somehow the more extreme than ever, but I don’t evidence of that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:23 PM
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So what influences women's sexual behavior the most is culture in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:18 PM
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What is your definition of promiscuity and what ways does feminism encourage it? And why do you believe this is an American woman only issue? Have you lived in other cultures before? Because I have and it’s most definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:16 PM
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they kill their children when it doesn't work. Huh? Are you talking about abortion? Because that’s not a western only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:20 PM
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Hence I said. pill orientated spaces I am obviously not talking about all men but those who subscribe to redpill or blackpill thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:19 PM
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So you believe many women who are promiscuous would not be if feminism and western culture weren’t ‘encouraging’ them to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:17 PM
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Can you point me to all these feminists channel from the past 50 years that mock men who talk about their relationship or loneliness issues? I guess cause of feminism men have no choice but to harass random women on the inter webs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:47 PM
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Its not narcissism to experience schadenfreude when a member of a group finally experiences a struggle you had to deal with for some time. It is narcissistic to assume to project your frustration onto an innocent person and think that they are miserable because they don’t have you. So that one example the woman experiences some outlier of circumstances. It is not an outlier circumstance, that is the point. There such a demand for content, they will ignore context to twist to fit their agenda. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:22 PM
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And for one video out of context I see hundreds more. Nope. A large % of these are out of context, which messes since these women get harassed by these losers. The point is they will jump to conclusion any woman especially older women expressing sadness about her life is because she doesn’t have man, because that’s the only way they can feel important. The ones posted by women get way more interaction and views than the ones created by men. There wouldn’t be the variety of red pill content if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:18 PM
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No, I want them to be single, because these women are a cancer, and they don't deserve to be involved with good men, which typically ends in disaster for him. So why do redpillers feel the need to twist these videos by posting out of context to fit their agenda? Why do they need constant stream of these videos to feel better about themselves? One example I posted was men dogpiling a married mom of three for expressing sadness in her youth as another ran through miserable cat lady former hoe, des…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:15 PM
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They purposely seek this content out to post, so why is that? Why do they twist the content to fit their agenda then? I posted an example of men dogpiling a married mom of three for expressing sadness about her youth, because in their minds women can only be sad if they don’t have a man. They need to feel that important and will seek out any media confirms it’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:11 PM
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Can you point me to all the angry bitter post by single women? All I see are posts bashing women and blaming them for men’s dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:08 PM
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Not that at all. A lot of single women admit to being miserable and it just gets called out from time to time. Time to time? There an entire channels dedicated to posting such content. They are so desperate for such content they will twist videos to fit their viewpoint. Like the example I posted of them dogpiling a married mom of three who expressed sadness about her youth because their minds a woman can only be sad about her life if she doesn’t have a man. I’ve seen this countless times. For ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:06 PM
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I guess I touched a nerve there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:01 PM
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That's not the point, I said there's enough videos being made that you could dedicate a whole channel to them but you don't see that happening because women don't get self esteem boost from watching them the way men do when it's reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:59 PM
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Do you want me to post examples? It's really not hard to find videos of men complaining about being lonely or single. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8fGs7kX/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8ft1J1M/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8fG3Lu7/ Likes its hard to find this content.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:41 PM
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If there were enough videos/posts, it would be done. It's not because there's no demand from this content from women vs the other way around. Not even the most man hating radfems would spend their days wanting to watch videos of men complaining about their dating lives. These videos obviously exist, I can show you dozens upon dozens alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:26 PM
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Men take interest when women experience dating struggles because they want to see how women react when women experience just a little bit of struggle the average man goes through on the regular, to see how women handle it. There's also narisstic fantasy for many to believe they are the central component of women happiness. That's why they will doglile any (perceived) single women who expresses sadness about life and assume it must be due to dating problems or loneliness. Hence why in one example…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:19 PM
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Many of these videos are taken out of context. I posted one example, the woman is married with children yet the guys are still circle jerking about how she's miserable lonely older woman because that's the only explanation for why any older woman could be sad about life. They will twist any video to fit their agenda, even leaving out context because they want it to be true. Similarly there are enough videos of men posting similar content on social media that doesn't get same backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:15 PM
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None anything you said explains why it's popular in red pill and manosphere circles to obsess over the idea of all single women being miserable and lonely without them. I thinks it clear cope and narcissism on the part of many men men to think any single women who expresses sadness about her life is doing so because they don't have a man. That's the point I'm getting at, these guys are so in love with this narrative that all single women miserable they will search the web to find any piece of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:09 PM
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I've already pointed we’ve had many post discussing their arguments before, heck I've made threads discussing them. That's not the purpose of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:56 PM
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Yes but why would you want to do that instead of engaging with their ideas? Because that's not the purpose of this thread or the threads topic? We already have thousands of posts addressing their arguments before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:30 PM
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There's enough videos and posts of men doing it that you could theoretically also make a YouTube channel dedicated to showcasing them, but you don't see that. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:23 PM
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There's no reason to do what you're doing now except to try and say these men are wrong without having to actually prove them wrong. I'm not trying “prove them wrong” but to give an analysis of why this phenomenon exist and what is driving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:13 PM
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Because men rarely go on social media complaining about their dating lives. This isn't true, I can show you dozens upon dozens of memes and videos of guys complaining about being single and their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:12 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:58 AM
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Largest welfare programs are social security, medicare, Medicaid, veteran benefits, disability insurance which make up the vast majority of welfare spending. You want the government to cut all them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:57 AM
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What things do the government need to stop doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:16 AM
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The idea is that if men are to take "personal responsibility" for their own problems, so should women. Interesting, one the biggest issues many states are trying to tackle right now is homelessness, drug addiction, and criminal justice reform. Those are like the three big issues everyone talks about, they also effect men, do you think the government should stop providing help for those demographics since men should just take responsiblity? Get rid of welfare for single mothers. If women chose to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:50 PM
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Very clear your not interested in having a conversation since you didn’t address a single thing I said in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:37 PM
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The personal is political relates to how woman’s personal experiences shapes their outlook on oppression and larger social and political structures. It has nothing to do with what individual men’s dating choices are. Feminists constantly drone on about how “predatory” age gaps are, how a white man dating an Asian woman is evidence of a “submission fetish” and how men who won’t date fat women or single moms are “weak” The pushback against age gap relationships is related to predatory men preying …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:01 PM
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Why would you feel predatory…you aren’t forcing them, you aren’t even tricking them… Because I dont want to have sex with someone I believe I am harming or hurting in a way. I would feel guilty doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:30 AM
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Like I said in other comments this seems to be a difference in moral compass. I would personally feel predatory having sex with somebody I thought I was damaging or devalued them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:27 AM
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it selfish? Yes. Is it predatory? No. I suppose it's a difference in moral compass, I would feel absolutely predatory having sex with somebody I thought I was damaging or devalued them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:25 AM
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Maybe it's a difference in moral compass then, I would never have sex with someone if I believed it damaging or devalued them as person and would feel predatory if I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:22 AM
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Not everyone views consensual sex as being preyed upon. I'm specifically talking about men who believe sex devalues women but encourage or pursue sex with women. Is it not predatory to engage in activity with someone you believe is ‘damaging’ or ‘harmful,’ to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:16 AM
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If you think sex is damaging to your partner, i's absolutely predatory to pursue it. Maybe it's just a difference in moral compass, I would never have sex with someone who if I thought the sex would be damaging or harmful to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:35 AM
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Women are consenting adults. They're perfectly capable of saying no and subsequently dropping their value. They don't believe it's dropping their value, but many men do believe it is which to me is predatory to do something with someone you think is “damaging,” to them. Note I am only talking about men who have this belief not every guy who pursues casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:30 AM
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Not to mention some dudes like a high body count woman I am not talking about those men. I'm talking about men who specifically believe sex or causal sex damages women but still encourage or pursue causal sex with women. It seems predatory to condone or have sex with someone if you believe it's harmful to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:07 AM
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Again I said I am not here to argue about preferences, I don't care if you want to date high n or low n count or whatever women. I am asking if you believe casual sex/not being a virgin is ‘damnaging’ to women and it ‘destroys’ their value as a person, is it not predatory to pursue an activity (casual sex) with someone you think is damaging to them? If I thought me having sex with someone would be damaging or harmful to them I wouldn't have sex with them even if it's consensual because it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:58 PM
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Interesting. Like I said Im not opining if gender segregation is good or bad, but it seems necessary to have a more sexually conservative society. The way theocratic societies oppress men is not talked about a lot, but I think most guys in this sphere think it's worth it if they are guaranteed a “hot loyal virgin” wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:55 PM
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Interesting, can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:56 PM
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There are people that don't want to sleep around. Yes but according to men on here, those represent a minority of women and most women are promiscuous or high n count by their definition. If that’s the case, then it seems to me we can conclude promiscuity in women is natural and the only way to prevent it is by unnaturally separating the sexes or oppressing female sexuality. Again that’s not my personal opinion but I believe that’s the logical conclusion you can draw if believe a lot of manosphe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:37 PM
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In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:34 PM
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Maybe my perception is skewed because I’ve spent to much time online in redpill/tradcon/manosphere spaces, but everyday I see screeds from them whining about high n count women. They are pretty insistent their views represent the majority of men most are just afraid of backlash if they state their ‘true’ preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:33 PM
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I don't believe the men bemoaning women in high-status or high-earning jobs represent a plurality or even a significant minority of men as a gender. I never said they did, I specified I’m talking about manosphere, tradcon, redpill groups. The reason I believe this is because I notice they never bemoan or obsess over women who work low wage jobs the same way they do career women when there are probably more women working low wage jobs then high status ones. I think you'd see a whole let less flac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:19 PM
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So you got no examples, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:15 AM
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That’s probably because she’s been incessantly been trolled and harassed this last month. She hasn’t said anything or posting anything publicly for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:01 AM
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Nobody cares about that, this is not about why men don’t find promiscuous women attractive or about preferences. It’s why they feel need to harass and dogpile as she says these women when they can simply ignore them. I saw many comments from men justifying Dillons harassment saying that whores like Nina deserved for being whores and should be taught a lesson. I find that logic utterly bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:59 AM
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The goal isn't to have those girls stop being promiscuous, it's so those girls end up alone. The attitude I saw from other men framed their actions as way to warn other women there will be consequences for being a “slut” to justify harassment (be a slut or you’ll be sorry!) The wishing the end up alone is another way to push narrative as they are hoping by making these women be a lone as a “consequence” for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:54 AM
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OP, you're giving away some mangina and white knight vibes. You also seem oblivious about how the society functions. I’m a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:50 AM
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Because the normalization of this behavior can be bad for society?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:49 AM
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Most of these studies seem to be old. Online I rarely see women mass slut shaming like men unless they’ve actually done something immoral like be a home wrecker’s (Ariana Grande) or acted inappropriately around children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:47 AM
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Not saying I wish pain and misery on them, but I also think the OUTSTANDING lack of accountability women expect is absurd. That’s the logic I saw a lot in the men justifying Dillon harassing Nina, that she was a “whore” who needed to face the consequences of her actions to be taught a lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:43 AM
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How would it be a strategy to convince women to not sleep around? That’s what I’m wondering. The reason I made this thread is because the men who were justifying the harassment against Nina were using this logic to explain why it’s necessary. The simple truth is that promiscuous women are invisible to some high value men. In the same way that short men are invisible to women. Not true in my experience, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:42 AM
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She’s not sweeping anything under the rug, I’ve actually seen for more viral posts from men mocking women for having flat assses or boobs, but I’m not talking about that because it has nothing to do with my topic, so enough of the whatsboutism. https://twitter.com/Dvon_98/status/1459375113661562883
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:33 AM
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I also have many posts by men mocking women for having flat boobs or asses, with thousands of likes. https://twitter.com/Dvon_98/status/1459375113661562883 Enough of this whatsboutism, this isn’t the topic this thread is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:31 AM
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I’m trying understand if my assessment of their motivations is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:22 PM
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Forget month long, short men experience life long harassment and discrimination. Women find short men repulsive on a visceral level. I think your missing the point of my thread. This is not about attraction, I am not here to debate the reasons why men don’t find promiscuous women attractive. But why there is desire to see such women punished or harassed when you can simply ignore them and if this is a strategy to try influence women’s sexual behavior. The reason I made this thread is because I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:16 PM
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Not if it’s in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:09 PM
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That’s what I’m getting at. This not about why men don’t find promiscuous women attractive, I don’t care about that. But why there is this desire to see them punished for their “actions” when you can simply just ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:06 PM
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How would you feel if some guy made a video everyday on social media where they filmed themselves taking a shit? How would you feel when they brag about taking a shit on video? Huh? Nina has done none of that, she mostly kept a low profile these last couple of years. The only reason anybody has even vague idea who she is because she use to model for SI.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:02 PM
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That’s may not be Dillons motive but the a lot guys egging him on definitely have that motivation, I’ve seen too many tweets of them bluntly saying so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:54 PM
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I’m gonna find it hard to have sympathy for those choices coming back to bite you. That’s the tone and reasoning I saw from guys justifying Dillon harassing Nina, that these were the consequences of her actions and “whores” like her need to be taught a lesson so women can learn from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:51 PM
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You are implying that the average western man would choose to physically harm women to get what he wanted from them if it were legal. No I said violence is no longer something they can use as an option to get women comply with certain behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:37 PM
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If you can point me to tweets or post of women celebrating when “whores” are being violently murdered or support their harassment if this is happening on an equal scale like you insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:34 PM
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I never said there was conspiracy but the justification for the harassment seemed to motivated by wanting to see someone they considered a “slut” being hurt or harassed to teach her lesson. That’s what dozens upon dozens of tweets I saw from Dillon supporters we’re basically saying, I even linked an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:29 PM
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I mean anonymous is the key part no? They weren’t anonymous that’s the point. It has not been my experience only conservative women slut shame in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:27 PM
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I’m just reporting what I am seeing. I’ve seen dozens of tweets alone in incel spaces about “whores” that are borderline violent in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:20 PM
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I’m not sure why you are offended by my passage. It’s a fact in the past sexual mores we’re enforced through control methods like threats of violence or economic dependency. Western men can no longer do this to women on a large scale, so way they primarily try to influence women’s sexual behavior through shaming methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:17 PM
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Offline, no that hasn’t been my experience. I remember in school guys would regularly spread rumors about certain girls being sluts or drag them for it, but that was in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:12 PM
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I can see women slut shaming each other, I never denied that. But the extreme vitriol I see directed at high n count women is mostly coming from men online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:10 PM
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Nobody I know would justify a month long harassment against someone just for being short. The vitriol against promiscuous women is obvious much deeper then that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:05 PM
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I'd say all of this was fine up to the point of stealing private material and/or posting it online. Otherwise he's simply pointing out what she's done or likely to have done. You see nothing wrong with threatening to release revenge porn of someone? Photoshopping pictures of them with other men or yourself and writing sexual captions underneath such photos? Concerning if that’s case. If you want utilitarian reasons for it, highly promiscuous women spread disease, they're more likely to have chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:03 PM
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The bullying is the “consequence” for Nina, while they are hoping to convince other women watching the bullying unfold to change their behavior in fear the same thing will happen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:33 PM
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He didn't know her full history at the time. How do you know that? You can literally google Nina’s dating history and list of ex bfs. Anyways this not about Logan and Nina’s relationship but about why some men have a desire to see “whores” punished which I think drove the egging on of the harassment campaign against Nina.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:15 PM
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This isn’t about whether you think promiscuity (which definition can change depending on the person) is good or not but why some men think threats or harassment against high n count women are a good strategy to try convince women not to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:07 PM
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This wasn't a campaign with the goal of shaming promiscuous women to change. I never said it was. I pointed out that many of the men who were justifying the harassment against Nina were saying she deserved it for being a “slut” and that there should be consequences for women like her to teach them a lesson. I saw dozens up dozens of comments along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:57 PM
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The reason Dillon is targeting Logan’s wife or fiancé is because he’s trying to get under Logan’s skin. I don’t really think there’s some sinister secret plan to convince women to not sleep around via harassment. That may be why Dillon is doing it, but a lot guys egging him on or justifying the harassment say it’s because they think “whores” like Nina deserve to be punished as a way to teach her or other women there are “consequences” to their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:52 PM
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Intrasexual competition implies it’s between woman and most of the extreme slut shaming I see online comes from men not women. Usually women defend promiscuous women even if they themselves don’t agree with their lifestyle since they see the shaming as sexist and a double standard. This isn’t about why men don’t like promiscuous women , it’s why do guys feel threatening and harassing “sluts” or wishing pain/misery on them is a good strategy to convince women to not sleep around. Why can’t they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:44 PM
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