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It radicalised women to be toxic, alienated men to the right, creating the biggest divide between the sexes we've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:39 PM
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For everyone, but it is a failed movement, so not odd, just predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:36 PM
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Instead it promoted further inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:31 PM
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I've never had problems with having male friends 1) that's rare 2) what made you seek out your friendship with these men? Cause ive found that women dont want to befriend a man unless he's attractive, has other material or superficial value or she's keeping those men as backup. Men are far more suspicious of other men in these cases. Yeah cause women go around telling on themselves all the time, thats why men are suspicious, cause we know its not just some good character friend, you befriended h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:45 PM
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😂 if its just there, cant help it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:34 PM
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Ironically ive found that more men are willing to have a platonic friendship with women than the reverse, most women ive seen will never agree to a platonic relationship with a man unless she's attracted to him or keeping him as a backup incase her first choice man dont work out. But purely platonic, barely seen any woman actually as interested in it as men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:57 PM
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Tell them, not us, they're the ones saying they're happy single, but complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:10 PM
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where do you see women choosing to be single complaining? Literally everywhere, its a common occurrence, unless you're oblivious and are hardly on the internet. It doesn't matter if single women can still hook up or not. That's not really her problem that men are still sexless for whatever reason. She is still overall happier single. Even if that's the main reason why, then so be it. Except the sample of the statistics are not representative of the study, as it doesn't measure the context and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:03 PM
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You'd think the happy single women wouldn't come online to complain either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:40 PM
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There's a difference between someone who has made the decision to be single and someone who happens to be single because they simply aren't in a relationship currently. We're not talking about the latter Between the men and women that have made the decision to be single, women tend to be happier statistically speaking. Thats such a misleading statistic, as it doesn't take into account womens situationships, fwb, casual hookups etc etc...for men when they're single they are also sexless and compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:40 PM
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Women say that but complain about dating and men more than anyone, you'd think happy single people would just go about their lives and never talk about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:07 PM
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Also natural selection, entitled women get eliminated from the gene pool, allowing humble parents to raise future daughters with reasonable standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:06 PM
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I don't know if you're being serious or trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:19 PM
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What is your advice? Get jacked and rich? Like everyone's not already trying that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:51 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:50 AM
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First off all I did not say 50% of men had no options I said they didn’t have many options and so they can’t be too picky if they actually want to be with a woman which you are now confirming by saying that “close to 50% of men” don’t date and remain single because they can’t actually get with the women who meet their standards. So you agree with me? If a man has standards that are too high he will just remain single. 50% of men in our ancestry did not reproduce compared to 90% of women. Guess t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:44 AM
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Who? 50% of men? Lol. A small portion of men truly have “options when it comes to women. That’s the point. You don’t have to be a total reject I’m not talking about men no woman wants to date. I’m talking about average decent men, these men don’t have a ton of options so they can’t afford to be too picky with women. In order for it to even make sense that “men in general” can reject women in their 30s “men in general” would all have to have the option to be with younger women they don’t especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:58 PM
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They would be LUCKY to get any woman of fertile age ever. “Biologically” speaking only females are in a position to be selecting Yes but are we talking about THOSE men here? They're already eliminated from the dating pool anyway. So let's talk about men who are actually desired by women, those men get to be picky, there's no such thing as being lucky enough for a womans attention, they're the only ones getting it to begin with, hence why those men get to set whatever standards they want. And we …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:08 PM
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You are way too angry here. Clearly no one is talking about men who are not desired here, but rather men who are. Like you said, women would rather stay single than compromise on their standards, so why are you talking about men who have no options or value and have no choice but to feel lucky that a woman who has passed "the wall" would give them attention? Those men aren't desired nor will be, as per your logic. So the question is directed towards women and the men that are desired, since the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:04 PM
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That kind of equilibrium is rare, in most relationships people seek a partner who has more, where socio economic state is the same, they seek a partner with physical traits above their own. I'm sure besides his economic state, you held physical standards too, right? Standards you don't meet yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:11 PM
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That's the thing, a man that has all those achievements should hold women to even higher standards. Perhaps hold women to moral, personality and physical standards to an even higher degree. Cause men are held to even higher standards even with the same achievement level as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:56 PM
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It's literally a statistic, the majority pornstars are women, or do you want links to stats? Oxford and Cambridge did a study that found that men who engaged in porn felt a greater strain in performance, there was little to no emphasis on a womans performance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:25 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypergamy "marriage into an equal or higher caste or social group" "the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background."- Oxford Dictionary Hypergamy isn't a red pill word, it has it's own red pill definition, but this is the general definition. Parents arranged marriages with whomever was best for their daughter/family background And no, political marriages had 0 interest in what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:23 PM
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🤦‍♂️ Are you dense or something? You still don't understand feudal societies, there was no such thing as the best of other poor men, how do you tell any of them apart? And fyi, there was no dating in feudal societies, it was arranged marriage, which means she married whoever benefitted her father, even if it's the worst possible choice by her standard. Again, hypergamy is a product of the modern internet age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:15 PM
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Hypergamy is not “new” - women in the past have always sought to be with the best man that was available to her. That’s what Hypergamy is… what do you think it is? Except for all of human history we lived in feudal societies, women could not marry the best man available, cause there was no such thing, not unless a woman was born into a lords class. Why do you think mass poverty existed for most of human history? Why the poor married and had children the most? Sure you could contextualise hyperga…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:09 PM
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Oh lol, yeah, I said that men are held to a high standard, but women aren't, so to create healthier relationships women should also be held to a high standard. And yeah, this is something only men can fix, that's why it was aimed directly at men as it's a behaviour that can only come from men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:03 PM
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But isn’t it on men to hold uphold a standard Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:52 PM
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...yeah that's what the post is literally saying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:52 PM
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Meaning when restrictions are placed on women’s choice, it made dating better for men. You said the quiet part out loud. Nope, just means women had to put ridiculous amounts of effort to attract the man she desires, that's literally it. If most women didn't, they would only attract the men of their level. And no, hypergamy is relatively new as only the poor reproduced the most back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:51 PM
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Cause it's not an exhaustive list to begin with. Are you saying pop culture/social media DOESNT put unrealistic expectations? Yes, on men, not on women How about in comparison to pornography setting expectations on woman’s sexual performance Except it doesn't, it's an industry dominated BY women and Infact places a higher expectation on men than women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:43 PM
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Idk man, a small subset of examples don't represent social media and pop music.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:46 PM
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Being a provider is more difficult now than ever Agreed, but women are still entitled to the point of wanting it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:15 PM
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The core principles of the red pill are absolutely true, the problem is everything else gets way too personal when it's subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:50 PM
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Ironically enough, back before the red pill was a thing and misogyny was a trending social issue, I was talking to this girl, I saw her platonically, but I was basically spewing red pill and "misogynistic" comments to her...we dated for almost 2yrs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:34 PM
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Yet women are the ones who are seeking provider men and going online and spewing man hate? Men are FAR better at all of the things you just mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:31 PM
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Yet women are the ones who are seeking provider men and going online and spewing man hate? Men are FAR better at all of the things you just mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:31 PM
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Cause y'all don't want to nor care to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:53 AM
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Bruh, only 1 in 4 women are overweight, what are you on? Clearly you're projecting here, the reality is women aren't judged based on a high standard, and if women actually went after a man in their own league, they'd all be in a relationship. The reality is men DO go after a woman in their league, all the time, it's women who don't, then y'all hold your experience with high value men over everyone elses head. Cause the truth, most women know that they're going after men that are scarce but don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:47 AM
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since weak, dumb, uninteresting women can do it In what world? Men just don't hold most women to obscene standards. We won’t, because we really don’t think being a successful or decent person is difficult Success is difficult, what are you on? And being a decent person isn't your only standard, is it? Y'all will do anything but take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:42 AM
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Absolutely agree on this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:38 AM
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By your logic, everyone should only date someone who makes the same money as them? Take that up with women. Tell me you don't know anything about men without telling me, I haven't seen any man with standards like that, except perhaps the Uber wealthy and attractive men, mens standards of beauty are super low, so long as she's not plus size and has a sweet demeanor with an all natural look, most men with wife her. Problem is those women with no career prospects wants a man of the highest calibre.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:40 PM
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Women will do anything for a hot guy ...shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:37 AM
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By that logic you will never be stable enough for a relationship, because there's no working class or middle class tax bracket that gets off easy. And besides, if men fear gold diggers, that's the dumbest suggestion you can recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:19 AM
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That is not gonna end well for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:24 PM
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That approach has never worked though, ever I'm talking about modern feminism btw Yeah I know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:17 PM
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Yes, but at the same time, shunning men does not manifest positively, it's why men will continue going hard right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:08 PM
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I think if women just came out and admitted that the standards are way too high for men, understood that and even displayed some remorse, without hating on men, we'll come a long way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:00 PM
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Look, a traditional relationship of the man having to provide, earn more etc is already a lot of responsibility, far more than a traditional woman's role. Most men are not gonna have it all, to meet those standards is a ridiculously high burden, most men would crumble under the weight of it, no ones saying you should carry a man, but as the wife/husband, partners support one another and push to develop one another, there's nothing wrong with helping him improve on his weaknesses, that's what a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:11 PM
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Exactly, but that's the thing, the men in demand are soo few they're already getting optimal affection and sexual activity from women anyway, so if they are open to LTR, it will be based on her providing something more, of soo much more value
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:08 PM
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It doesn't help to complain that there's no men who want LTR knowing that there's not enough supply of the demand for the kind of men you want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:04 PM
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Problem is, in capitalism the threshold and the standard constantly increases that by late stage capitalism no one man is good enough to be a partner anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:38 PM
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True, men who have options tend to be the most picky, why wouldn't he be given the fact that women will swarm him regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:35 PM
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No harm in that, no reason why people should stick to specific roles in non-traditional times
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:22 AM
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Obviously, I'm not saying that she'll take charge, I'm just saying that she'll atleast try to steer him towards a direction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:02 AM
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Whether a woman is attractive or not, she's still put on a higher pedestal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:02 AM
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I've personally found that if the man is attractive, and she sees potential in him, she usually helps with his development so she can see a LTR with him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:43 AM
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It's true, men that women desire the most won't want LTR, why would they? Most men want LTR, but most women aren't attracted to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:19 AM
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Men want LTR, just not the men you're into
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:16 PM
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Yeah, but when you have women not from those countries talk about losing their personhood, it trivialises women in countries actually struggling from their limited personhood
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:59 PM
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So then don't complain when it costs you the election
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:39 AM
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For starters, stop attacking men at every opportunity? Stop being passive aggressive, generalising and hypocritical towards men? Ask men for their support, cater to men via offering support for their issues etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:38 AM
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Men who are dems are essentially pick me's, they just add fuel to the fire and use the same talking points as radical misandrists-- they don't represent the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:23 AM
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Doesn't matter, people are gonna atleast see him acknowledge what everyones already thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:21 AM
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I mean his entire campaign talked about every issue men have been preaching, he even addressed the gender wars, I mean that alone got a lot of people on board
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:44 AM
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This post is the perfect representation of what progressives are doing wrong, proving exactly why trump won; the icing on top? Instead of changing your views, narratives and approach, y'all are doubling down instead, as if you couldn't be beating a dead horse anymore than you did before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:43 AM
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If that's not an entitled response, I don't know what is. Tell me, if I find a woman who wants to be a mother, and we're both happy to be parents, upon getting her pregnant, she now wants an abortion, would that prove my point to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:47 PM
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Yes would be the only logical answer, casual sex is not beneficial for society and options being centered around your community and social circle is far healthier than online dating, since you have a stronger and a more useful ability to vet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:03 AM
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Trying to promote feminism by validating misandry, is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:09 PM
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Are you done with your emotional rant? By your logic, a woman who chose to be a mother does not care about a womans health risk? And if a man cares, he would oppose to her conceiving a child? That's why in a discussion about the CHOICE to be a parent, we don't discuss the topic of risks, otherwise no one would have a choice to be a parent, man or woman, we're not talking about condoms, risks or abortions, we're talking about the freedom to CHOOSE to be a parent. Clearly this whole thread has gon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:07 PM
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🤦‍♂️ my god, I've never seen tone deaf in a person this bad, a whole rant just to miss the whole point of the argument. We just established that the risk is NOT a factor here, since it doesn't abstain every woman from being a mother. We're talking about the CHOICE to be a parent, a woman has the choice to be a mother, a man does not have the choice to be a father. If she doesn't want the child, but he does, he doesn't get a say, if she wants the child but he doesn't, he still does not get a say.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:41 PM
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But let’s say you want the kid and she doesn’t. Then what? She’ll be the one that’s pregnant, uncomfortable and risking her life. Yet if she chose to birth the child, she'd still go through the discomfort and risk-- that's why it's not a factor in this discussion cause the risk does not sway all women's decisions. Men are the only ones who don't get a say, THATS the difference, men do not have the choice to be a father. It's a freedom men will never have. So yes the decision ultimately IS the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:14 PM
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As if your comment couldn't prove this post enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:20 PM
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I mean it takes 2 to make a child and be parents, the point is the decision on whether or not a man should, could or can be a father is upto the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:40 PM
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Yeah we really don't, most men are complaining about the hypocrisy of having patriarchal standards still imposed on us, and we certainly have 0 say in child bearing, and if you haven't noticed men don't have easy access to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:02 AM
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Honestly, it depends on each man, I have a high libido, so once a week won't cut it for me, it has to be 14x a week at the very least. I'm a firm advocate of sexual compatibility between partners, oftentimes no one talks about sexual deal breakers, so they partner up with someone they're sexually incompatible with, then the relationship struggles, it should be an important deal breaker you discuss before getting with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:40 PM
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I think in recent years that's been the running criticism with modern feminism, most women are selective in their activism, seeking equality for this but not that, or seeking to squash gender roles but only specific ones that disadvantage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:29 PM
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You mean like not make up hypothetical situations in which data proved something I wish were true and then preemptively decided how the people the data described would respond? Yeah, I think I could handle that. News flash honey, this whole thread is about hypotheticals and interpreting surveys and data to come to a conclusion of a hypothetical scenario, I don't know what you were expecting here. If you aren't sleeping with these women, why would that be a problem? Can't you just ignore it? (Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:47 PM
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But no doubt men would go off about how women are entitled hoes who only sleep with the top 20/10/5/.05% of men and that’s why so many women are having sex and so many men aren’t Why would that be a problem? You simply can't ignore it? But on top of that, it's just disgusting and unhygienic. Even so, you're acting like women aren't complaining about the same situation, where they come online and whine about how the men they are attracted to don't want them like that, it's already the same situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:51 PM
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There's a reason we're all debating surveys here, the hypothetical is about those surveys, or did you just want to stir drama?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:47 PM
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I mean you just confirmed it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:12 AM
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Marriage is a huge investment with a major risk for men of the current generation, especially given the cost of living and financial struggles of today. So there's no real upside to marriage when it comes to financial safety and security. Let's be honest, most women want a wedding, not a marriage. The second they get married and have to live upto to the responsibilities of being a spouse, they can't do it. The reality of the situation sets in, so the marriage fails, and the only one who took the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:16 AM
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I mean let's be honest even if some miracle study was published showing definitive proof that women are sexually active at a far higher rate than men, y'all would dismiss it or try conjure some validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:11 AM
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Health record? I mean the sex related health issues speak for themselves, no one can lie about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:09 AM
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This couldn't be the furthest thing from the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:07 AM
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Yeah, I agree with everything you just said, that's basically my stance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:39 AM
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That's the same argument pro life supporters can make, and they do, if it's not valid then, it shouldn't be valid here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:12 PM
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I'm saying that a woman should not choose to be a single parent if she can't afford it, if she can't do it without the mans money, that's a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:12 PM
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That's just entitlement, a child should not pay for the mothers entitlement. That explains why abortion is being controlled
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:55 PM
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you should not be having a child if you intend on being a single parent but can't afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:20 PM
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you should not be having a child if you intend on being a single parent but can't afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:20 PM
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People are stretching here, if a man does not wish to be a father, and made this clear to the woman, if she gets pregnant by some happen stance and decides not to get an abortion, the responsibility should solely fall on her. He did not choose to become a father, nor wanted it. It's not hard to understand, this is clear cut, you can't be a dead beat if you're thrust into a situation you never wanted. Also, this law will make women think very clearly about being a parent, you should not be having…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:18 PM
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Well I did mention thats what feminism is lacking as well, but yes accountability and responsibility are included as well
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:19 PM
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You know what? Yeah, you're right, equality assumes everyone within a demographic is in the same state in life, when it's not true. Rather than equality, equity would be more appropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:45 PM
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Why not? I just told you that privilege is a nuanced world, it's random, and based on multiple factors, it's fair to seek the social, economic and political equality of all people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:42 PM
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There doesn't need to be a benchmark for who, cause that assumes that theres an all powerful demographic that possesses every privilege conceivable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:38 PM
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No it doesn't, it simply advocates for the absolute equality of all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:35 PM
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What do you mean? I thought you wanted equality between the sexes? Everyone wants the same level of privileges, rights, responsibility and accountability, that's just common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:33 PM
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It did
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:23 PM
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Humanism, that's your answer. feminism stopped getting support when it really became about putting men down, elevating women above them, promoting gendered bias, gynocentrism, man hatred and hypocrisy. All the whole claiming to fight for equality, simultaneously rejecting any responsibility to give men any support for their struggles. But with humanism, you actually get the opportunity to fight for equality because it's not centered around 1 sex, rather both, so it's easier to call out double st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:23 PM
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Netflix
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:21 AM
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Confidence in the dating realm, not in your everyday life. I already highlighted it, most likely to be a womanizer, fboy, devoid of inhibitions, less likely to empathize with people, quick to make bonds with other women, even in a dating situation, vain, narcissistic etc etc Also worth noting, introverts tend to be overthinkers, because they take into account other people's sensitivities and sensibilities, which is the benchmark for empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:52 PM
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That's exactly why women tend to fall for serial womanizers and fboys, why even psychopaths have fan clubs. Most men overthink themselves, it keeps them introverted, to not have that weakness a certain sense of inhibition must be absent. Psychopaths don't have that issue, and fboys/womanizers are way too vain/narcissistic to ever think the world doesn't revolve around them, so they don't have that inhibition as a result
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:49 AM
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Remember the tinder swindler documentary? Women absolutely use the profile to determine a man's value, heck it's like a well known pick up method
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:45 AM
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I was asking for your definition of a good guy, not what a good guy isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:42 AM
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But some introverts are serial killers Most serial killers were womanizers, loved by their community, psychopaths are very good with people. Confidence as described in the dating realm is extroversion Confidence inherently is a red flag, but in dating its seen as attractive, even though it symbolises a history of flirting and attracting women, it's bad for monogamy. Women really do like bad men or extroverted traits are seen as a marker for good in the dating realm It's not seen as good in the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:22 AM
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So what is a good guy to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:15 AM
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Good more so ends up meaning extrovert Extroverts are the players, womanizers, fboys-- you'd think by now y'all would understand the difference between the green flags and the red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:13 AM
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If that was true, every woman would get married if they wanted to online dating. No, because in consumerism, premium products are in low supply, all women want premium products (high value man); there's just not enough of them. If that were true, why do the vast majority of women swear off online dating? You think they would be there in mass, instead of 1 out of 10. Minus the scams, bots, onlyfans, gals who go on them to see if the guy she's dating is on them, etc Here's the thing, most womens c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:09 AM
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That's not true, men get overwhelmingly discarded, women don't, they're just competing for the handful, who they're also all fighting for. Shopping is consumerism, premium products (high value man) are in low supply, not everyone gets one. That's all women are struggling with. For men, dating is quite literally a job application, men bulk swipe, their profiles (CV) had to be optimal enough to get an interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:03 AM
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If you're just more attracted to virgins than not-virgins, it's not hypocrisy Even if the person who prefers a virgin is not a virgin themselves? So the question now is, is there no such thing as a line to you? A point where you'll say that person A cannot have a certain attraction because they don't possess the standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:11 PM
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So how do you draw the line between acceptable and hypocrisy? The OP gave the example of virginity, yet that would be hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:24 PM
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History has repeatedly proven that you don't want the men in your society to be angry in any way, and I think with left leaning politics it's just absolute hatred of all men, which festers more anger amongst men. You dont want the men in your society to be angry, it will cause problems in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:58 AM
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Option 4 is likely to happen, if enough men turn right wing, they can impose strict patriarchal systems in place to restrict womens rights and freedoms-- creating conservative societies, it's happened in the past with religious revolutions across different nations. None of the other options are possible, for Option 1 society stagnates, birth rates hit close to 0, so the economy will rely on mass migration from developing nations to stabilise, this will naturally turn society conservative since d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:05 AM
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That seems like a question you should ask incels (or, more accurately, red pillers). That just sounds like something you're making up at this point, even Google disagrees with you, so does the dictionary. What? Yes you do, Tate was literally called King of the Incels. Since when? Literally never, he was at most called a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:15 PM
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Incels are quite specifically referring to men who use intensely misogynistic rhetoric to attack and denigrate women for not giving them the sex So why is it always associated with a man who doesn't attract women? You never see Bryce, Tate or Myron be called incels, cause they still have a history of attracting women. Incel seems to be synonymous with virginity, literally always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:07 PM
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He's not, he made a valid point, when have you ever seen a woman being insulted for being a virgin? Never. When have you seen men be insulated for being a virgin? Almost always. The same principle applies to promiscuity. The sexes are never held to the same standard, it sucks, but it's just the way it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:05 PM
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No ones saying women should have no standards, men are simply saying that women should have REASONABLE standards. Furthermore, a woman having lower standards does not mean she'll be promiscuous, just like a woman having high standards won't be a virgin. There are too many promiscuous women with high standards whilst there are women who aren't promiscuous with low standards. Also, having lower standards is not equivalent to having no standards. A person can have 1 standard, but the benchmark of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:02 PM
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The main issue is that they just leave all the decision-making up for the guy to parse out and they become super passive to the point that it's like you're just carrying them along like luggage. This stuff is a major turn-off because these sort of women often finds reasons to complain about how they didn't like what you chose. They like to react to things rather than meet me halfway with an opinion and not the wishy-washy, "it's up to you." Perfectly put, these women have zero communication capa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:22 PM
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These are 2 extremes, I want a woman in the middle, something everyone else in the comments have already agreed on, she's soft, kind, understanding and gentle but confident, decisive and stands on business-- she needs to be empathetic but also understanding, i don't want her to be my boss or some child, just a mature responsible woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:20 PM
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When did porn become cheating? When did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:45 PM
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If I grew up super desirable to women, then yeah, I'd be a player, simply cause it's the social conditioning, I'd be praised, looked upto etc. If I became super desirable between 2016-2019, no I would not be a player, cause around then I was far more innocent minded, and I wanted to be moral, believing in love and everything. If I became super desirable now, I'd just be a player, my life experiences upto this point have been painful enough, that my morals don't even matter anymore. So I do belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:38 AM
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Not a great reply from you tbh I did not insult, hate or get personal with you. idk how you thought that comment was for you because contextually it didn’t make sense. Contextually it could have been taken as an argument against anyone of us, especially when you used the male example. But I do apologise, the lack of the daughter being mentioned should have given it away. I've edited my comment, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:58 PM
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Edit: Apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:49 PM
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You think it's JUST as likely that someone would lie Not JUST as likely, but the percentage is still high relative to the percentage of guilty, where it should absolutely be considered as a possibility, especially if you know the person who is accused on a personal level. Definitely no incel biases here 😌 I think we now understand the kind of person you are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:12 PM
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Yes, just like I'd believe my son if he was accused and denied it. It's the same scenario, if the son can be guilty then so can the daughter of lying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:36 AM
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Mostly successful men, and it's still for sex, but more added to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:32 AM
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I definitely don’t despise sexless men. Why would I? What do you think men do with escorts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:17 AM
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all i had to do was glance at your page. I could say the same about you. but if you think men don’t express through action and words that they settled for their partner and would prefer to be with someone else So men don't love bomb? How many times have we seen women talking about men who were great partners, bringing soo much effort and affection only to just up and leave out of nowhere? It's soo frequent that it's become a whole meme now. And how many times have women repeatedly explained the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:11 PM
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you’re already under the pretense that women suck /men have it so hard. Where did I say that? I simply said women express their emotions more than men. Men bottle up their feelings far more often, we all know this. If a woman settled, she expresses it, men don't. Also, socially, yes men have it harder in life,by a significant margin
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:04 PM
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I have not seen 1 case of women figuring it out by the mens actions, it's always some confession he makes to someone else or he does it himself. By action men always bring the most effort, heck, y'all recognise what love bombing is, men hide their intentions by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:00 PM
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That's what I'm saying, it's not until they hear the confession that they realise they've been settled for. By action they can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:25 PM
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Chosen/picked, easily. How a woman treats you when she picks you Vs when she settles for you is like night and day. It's not like with men, men are good at hiding all that, women aren't. When a woman settles for a man, she looks, sounds and talks cold, her barriers are always up, she never puts any effort into you and everything is transactional for her. She never puts any affection into her communication nor does she go out of her way for you. She never initiates intimacy and she's quick to los…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:20 PM
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We're seeing the birth of a matriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:29 PM
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All of mens struggles would disappear if they understood that women are arguably more superficial and materialistic than men. Men are only lost because no one actually tells men what women value most when seeking a partner, it's always the same regurgitated ideas "be yourself, be nice, be good". That all works once you're already IN the relationship, not before it. When it comes to attracting women, it's looks and money first, both of which women hold to a higher standard than men, which is some…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:27 PM
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It’s called inferring relative information. Why bring it up in context to the previous comment? Because you’re piling on to their “women bad” mentality. It’s not necessarily a neutral take if you’re agreeing with it. That's YOUR interpretation, it's like saying that having cultural or religious standards are bad, they're not good or bad, you make off it what you will, people have standards for whatever reason they do, denying it doesn't help any cause nor does it alleviate a persons dating diffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:31 PM
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Ironically when I spent my teenage years online, I had a more blue pill look on life, more indifferent to women, it wasn't until I started socialising with them more that I started holding a few critical views of women, it also helps having friends who are women, I'm secure and trustworthy enough for them to share their thoughts, feelings and worldviews of others, with me. And bare in mind I never once said women being superficial, materialistic and hedonistic was a positive or a negative, you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:15 PM
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No one said greedy parasites, I said superficial, materialistic and hedonistic. Superficial= Having higher standards for looks Materialistic= Having standards on his money and his material positions. Hedonistic= parties, travelling I never said any of these are positives or negatives, just that women seek a higher quantity of these than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:11 PM
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Saying a man is nice is equivalent to a woman speaking and eating? when it should be equivalent to a woman being nice or good, which is something you work on rather than inherently do. The equivalent standard of a woman eating and speaking would be a man eating and speaking, not him being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:55 PM
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Then, being nice will attract a better quality woman Money first, being nice is not a merit women use, it's right at the bottom, usually a higher quality woman is only available if you have a lot of money, network and status
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:52 PM
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95% of women would rather be with an asshole that spoils them with money, looks handsome, and fucks like a god. And men still don't understand this, since birth we're conditioned to think women are these immaterial angels of sainthood, when in reality women are more materialistic, superficial and hedonistic than men, by a significant margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:50 PM
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“She speaks the same language as you and she eats dinner”. Even when we're using the absolute lowest standard, it's still lower for women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:47 PM
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I always say, there are a lot of asshole men with a lot more success with women than a nice guy or even a good man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:46 PM
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A poor country is not the same as having a high cost of living crisis in a developed country.
/r/MensRights24/09/24 04:31 PM
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believed that sex was somewhat "punishment" for women You didn't get it, they weren't saying to punish her with sex, nor did they associate it as a punishment. They're essentially saying that he should downgrade his relationship with Sarah, from something serious to something casual, like a fwb or situationship kind of thing. Essentially to stay with her for consistent sex, his connection with her being solely dependent on the rate of sex they have. Should she stop or reduce the rate of intimacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:58 AM
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Most men would
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:41 PM
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so judge men same way you judge women. Men are the ones who overwhelmingly practice this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:18 PM
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You can criticise a collective, without hating on every individual in that collective. Women do this too, all the time, I'm sure in such a case you're far more understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:19 PM
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This is one of those problems only women can solve...but they don't want to do that either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:20 AM
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It's only a very small minority of men doing that, the only men who have the means to do that on loop
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:49 AM
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So a fringe minority of cases means that only fertile young women should mass migrate? Instead of say vetting the mental state as well as the background record of all migrants? And you wonder why the general populace finds y'all to be creepy perverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:44 PM
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Those who advocate for women only immigration are sick in the head, we know where their heads are, what they're really after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:13 PM
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There's a theory that men of the past didn't have as much mental health issues due to having male only communities from a young age, whether it be philosophy, military or agriculture, men had tight niche communities to give them a belonging. Men today don't have that, because life is mostly isolated for them, there's very little support or belonging to aid them in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:15 PM
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This is basically red pill 101
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:10 PM
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The outcome is inevitable in every way, if women create high dating standards, then they're giving more socio power to men anyway. The patriarchy is inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:56 PM
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What you suggested WAS debt, to not play the game is to avoid debt. No one said anything about passport bros, long distance relationship across the world is a thing you know. For most men, they won't be able to play, but women won't have any right to complain about the few men in the position to play. We know what happens when a man has too many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:53 PM
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Or look for women in a lower tax bracket or marry someone abroad? And your point wouldn't make sense anyway, even if a man fakes it and pays up, how long will he be able to keep it up? She'll figure it out and it will be a brutal wake up call. Men need to know their own worth and value, that's the only way forward, pandering to women will just lead to resentment of them in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:46 PM
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Then don't date them? Set the bar, otherwise you're settling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:36 PM
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This is one of those points the Red Pill isn't wrong about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:35 PM
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For a feminist man, your views are very patriarchal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:34 PM
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Smoker, ex was a smoker, she was incredibly attractive and fun, so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:40 PM
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You clearly don't know the difference between physical attraction and relationship attraction, when men say this: “don’t be fat, be pleasant, that’s it, we don’t have high standards.” We are specifically talking about physical attraction, and yes, mens physical standards are close to non-existent, for most it's just weight. only time men here really come out and claim to care about personality is when they’re making excuses for pumping and dumping I don't even know how you came to that conclusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:20 PM
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Way to completely invalidate the post, instead of reading the post and thinking on it, you just said it's wrong, the fault is handing out sex too early-- which is not the problem. Why do certain women think men don't care about womens personalities? We absolutely bloody do, if a woman brings no value to a man's life and has no interesting character, it doesn't matter how long you prolong the sex phase, he'll leave, it's that simple. Most men WANT a woman to put some effort into the relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:17 AM
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Traditionally if a woman becomes interested it becomes her turn to then start to show him what she can do for his life. So a lot of women just skip that step, they go out, get wined and dined, then do nothing and move on to the next dog and pony show. They are addicted to the early phase attention. This prevents them from developing relationship skills and also burns them out on a long term relationship because they are so used to the early relationship dopamine hit. Uufff that was perfectly put…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:12 AM
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Couldn't be further from the truth, what do you think men are doing with the height positivity movement? Or even look maxing? Men are absolutely leading the same fight. The difference is, both sides are targeting the other as their primary audience whilst simultaneously enforcing harsh body standards, it's a defeatist scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:48 PM
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it’s women leading the charge, not men. I’m not sure why you expect women to lead the charge on the behalf of men The hypocrisy of this is that you're targeting men as your primary demographic, not other women, you're trying to convince men of your ideals, that's why the primary platforms are male gaze platforms. So obviously men are targeting women as their primary demographic for their body positivity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:46 PM
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My issue is that body positivity seems to be entirely directed at womens weight, and whilst you're fair in how you view men and womens bodies, there are a large demographic of women who have deligated body positivity exclusively to womens bodies, excluding men entirely, that's why men press hard at criticising womens bodies, they see the double standard as permission to target the body positivity movement. If women distributed all the morals of their activism evenly, we'd be living in a world wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:07 AM
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It's the same reason women want to fight patriarchal norms, just not patriarchal norms in a relationship or interpersonal lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:45 AM
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Look up Nora Vincent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:35 PM
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Yes and no, they hate how they underestimated life for men and definitely acknowledge how much more difficult it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:55 PM
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Trans men get seen as women all the time? Nope, but they like their lives as women far better than their lives as men. They usually speak up about better treatment whenever they're seen as men Even though all the stats show the opposite? Women report higher rates of mental illness and loneliness, they are less propped up and prioritised by society even if you feel you get a cold shoulder. I don't know where you pulled that from, but men have a higher rate of mental illness, and men have a higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:28 PM
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They hate it because they keep being seen as women That's completely false, nothing of the sort has been recorded anywhere, the findings we do have, only mention the struggle of isolation, lacking social circles, and the cold shoulder from women as well as society, it's the struggles that come with being a man. Nora Vincents publications are also a great read on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:01 PM
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But you're not in a platform A platform is part of the real world. Yes, dating apps have skewed gender ratios, but they're still the most common way for couples to meet. I'm thankful that's just the US, cause that is just bleak. You're still missing the point, there's a capitalism component to dating, things like demographic ratio, filtering system, app algorithm, they all play a role in your prospects, it's not just about your league
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:38 PM
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While I'm not trans, I would gladly change my gender if given the opportunity I would not recommend anything remotely close, trans men hate transitioning for a reason, there are social privileges to being a woman, that men don't have, and it will make your life a nightmare to live as a man if you're not accustomed to those hardships as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:27 PM
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If you're in a platform where the demographic is not evenly distributed, you're basically screwed, it doesn't matter if you're the most attractive, successful man in the world. Around a couple years ago Henry Cavill was arguing about the difficulty of the dating scene in Hollywood, a man like that was struggling, so imagine everyone else. There's a capitalist component to dating, so it's not as simple as saying your league is who you can pull, your league is who is available for you to pull at b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:18 AM
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Susan was doing soo well until the last 4 bullet points
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:30 AM
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Yes? And? Males always have to work harder to get a mate. That’s the default. You really don't want to go there, if you're preaching following the patriarchal norm, you best be strapped to that kitchen, not lift a finger or raise a voice without his permission, since you want to follow historical "default" Nah they can just share a rich baby daddy. Y’all men better do something these rich men are seriously consolidating all the resources and soon all the women as well. I'm sure you'd love to sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:38 PM
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If he works more outside the home and she works more inside the home they can both have time to relax. In what world? You realise how much more he would have to work to even afford to sustain a whole family? Unless you've been living under a rock, we have a cost of living crisis, stagnant wages and a collapsing economy, for you all to survive on 1 persons wages, you'd need a man from old money, you'd have to eliminate the entirety of the middle class and working class from having families. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:41 AM
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I know, you're against 50/50, right? My comment highlights that 50/50 is the best type of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:27 PM
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This doesn't make sense, the risk is far greater if he's the provider, since you'll financially depend on him alone, if anything were to go wrong, you'll have nothing to fall back on. Also, unless you expect to do all of the child caring and domestic duties, what risk is there? I'm assuming you would expect your man to contribute equally to both, in which case you'd be selective in how you practice 50/50 in a relationship, which would have him carry the bulk of the relationship on his shoulder. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:38 AM
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And? Are you saying feelings can never form when setting boundaries? You clearly lack the human element here, unless you intend to behave like a robot, even platonic relationships require some level of emotional investment, any moment could trigger feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:59 PM
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I have not seen any man pursue wealthy women, it's practically unheard off, cause it's women who are attracted to wealth, not men, and wealthy women would never be attracted to men who aren't wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:58 AM
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If you were put in it before even being friends with them, that's just a rejection, it's only a Friendzone if you're already friends to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:33 PM
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What makes you think people don't? Regardless, there's nothing wrong with calling it a Friendzone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:06 PM
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And where did you pull that definition from? You understand that you can want 2 different things, right? Being "stuck" in the Friendzone, as you put it, does not mean you don't value or want the friendship, it just means your feelings aren't reciprocated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:48 PM
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You're overcomplicating it way too much, a Friendzone just means having feelings for someone who sees you as a friend, that's it. Anything else you ranted about is just that, a rant, especially the previous comment, it was random and came out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:05 PM
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"I have this friend. I like her a lot. In fact, I like her so much that if she won't suck my dick, I never want to see her again." You know that's not the definition of the Friendzone, right? Anything that happens after the feelings form has no correlation to the meaning of the word
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:41 AM
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The problem here is that you can develop feelings for someone you see platonically, at any time, feelings aren't something you control, and every friendship carries that risk anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:35 AM
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Your entire argument has no proof, it's less than anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:47 AM
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I highly doubt that given all the relationships we witnessed of the past generations, given how every single person was getting married in their early 20s. The fact that our parents and grandparents generations dread dating and relationships of today speaks volumes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:47 AM
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I highly doubt that given all the relationships we witnessed of the past generations, given how every single person was getting married in their early 20s. The fact that our parents and grandparents generations dread dating and relationships of today speaks volumes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:46 AM
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I don't know how it is in your country, but in my country feminism is seen as a movement for women and women only, men are never to be incorporated into it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:15 PM
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I think you explained perfectly why people keep a distance from feminism, it really is just pure negative pessimism talk and you have a general understanding of the kind of person the feminist would be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:06 PM
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According to this post, it shouldn't make a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:04 PM
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People look for patterns to everything in life, it gives a sense of control, otherwise you gotta choke it up to unseen forces like fate, cause if dating patterns are truly random, what other explanation is there for your failure? That thought would drive anyone mad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:04 PM
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You're describing purple pill, not blue pill, blue pill is just the other end of the radical spectrum to red pill, most people are in the middle, they hold views that belong to both groups, albeit slightly diluted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:49 AM
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There's 2 stages to this: 1) The hopeful stage: at this stage you're just very hopeful that 1 day someone will come, this stage lasts throughout your youth, going all the way into your late 20s to early 30s. 2) Indifferent stage: Eventually most men will reach this stage, it occurs around your 30s, in this stage you just stop caring, you'll still feel sexual attraction to women, but you no longer crave nor actively pursue a relationship with women, you become indifferent to them. At this point y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:04 AM
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You went on a whole rant to promote anything BUT equality, basically preached tradcon relationships, men macho and lead, women chased and follow, rah 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:16 PM
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Wtf are you talking about. It wasnt about "boundaries". It would be even more weird though. What kind of boundaries do you expect beside the typical ones from two strangers? Please resppnd that one Are you even a real human, how can you read it as such thing. Are you socially inept or something? What kind of a rigid definition of "boundary" do you have? Or do you really expect 2 strangers online to be an open book with eachother? Cause that's what a boundary is, knowing the limits of conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:57 PM
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That's selective reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:26 PM
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No it's not, it's like saying misogynistic advice is good and prudent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:09 PM
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Ok and? Is some part of your analogy meant to represent dick and pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:05 PM
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Find? She doesn't know her own interest? There's no entitlement in trying to establish a boundary, how is he meant to know what topics she's interested in? Bare in mind they don't know eachother, it's a dating app, they're all strangers, his approach was the healthiest approach on a platform like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:52 PM
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I'm with him, he's trying to establish boundaries and she essentially labelled every topic sensitive information.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:07 PM
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In what world? Terms like white knight, simps and performative activism wouldn't exist if it was
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:56 PM
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And y'all praise those men for it, when everyother man criticises them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:57 AM
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He's not talking about you is he? He's addressing this towards men who actively take part in talking about strangers, supporting women in ludicrous situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:18 PM
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That's soo delusional it hurts, it don't deter anything, it never has, humans will do bad things regardless of the punishment, it's just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:37 PM
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stops happening. Right, just like capital punishment and life sentences stopped murd3r?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:38 AM
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Especially a rich 6'5 doctor that looks like Henry Cavill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:36 PM
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Hysteria will always be hysteria, symptom of a deeper issue that needs to be worked on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:36 PM
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If you live by that hysteria, you might as well never go near food again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:43 PM
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It definitely does not sound like she's average, so she bagged a 6'5, attractive doctor, gets hit on repeatedly, and gets attention when she's outside, and you want us to believe she's a 7/10, and below you in looks?? Yeah I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:14 AM
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Well you book the events, it's not cold approaching when the entire setting is about dating and everyone there is signed up for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:54 PM
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100%, that platform is a disaster for everyone, man or woman. But there are singles events, speed dating, match makers etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:51 PM
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Dude, it will never work for most men, not much more to say about that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:38 PM
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You can't "think" of something as factually true, either it's true or it's not, and there's absolutely 0 evidence to back up your hysteria
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:29 PM
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I always say don't get married unless there's an exclusive benefit to you getting married. Marriage is a huge commitment, comes with a lot of responsibilities, it's particularly difficult for men, who have to do a lot, lose a lot. So you must have an exclusive, a specific benefit to you, justifying marriage. Once you do, by all means, get married
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:49 AM
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Well im purple pill, so i can only speak from that narrative, but to me i see the reason behind both pills. To me I'd define it as the following: Red Pill: Basically your Trad lore, women are materialistic and crave social validation, so the man has to always work extremely hard to be someone of high value and worth, often times with red pill men, relationships end up being more transactional, the mans the bread winner, the provider and has to be masculine and stoic, the woman has to look pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:57 PM
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You gotta understand men and women are not the same, their desires and wants aren't the same either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:25 PM
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Honestly, I never thought I would be the kind of guy to care about a womans past until I encountered my exes fwb...and I personally knew him from class, the stomach turned right away, I was not only embarrassed to look my classmate in the eye, but I was also too embarrassed to be seen with my ex around my college vicinity, given she had a casual sexual history with many guys in the college, I would get the nastiest ick to be with her in that environment. From then on, I got an understanding of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:23 PM
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Agreed, I've always said this myself, women are socially privileged, men are physically privileged
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:43 PM
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Or maybe theres nothing wrong with him, they just don't feel attraction? There doesn't need to be something wrong with a person for them to get rejected, most of the time it's something simple, just not the type, no attraction etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:42 AM
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I believe there's a psychological term for this that I can't recall, but essentially what you're meant to do is after a certain period of rejections, you cut off attempts, distance yourself from that situation. Take for example dating apps, if you can't get anything from them, you delete the apps, return back a year or so later. Same with women, after say 10 rejections, stay away from women in non-platonic situations, don't ask them out, don't look for dates, return back a year later or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:39 AM
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How does the math even work, 85% of women but 76% of men?? 9% of women sharing baby daddies or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:11 AM
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You need to learn the distinction between systematic behaviour and individual behaviours. The behaviours that promoted the creation of the patriarchy, was largely enforced by women, who promoted it to be the norm, and we see those very same patterns today, over time, the naturalisation of those behaviours would create the patriarchy. The dangerous and toxic results of the patriarchy all stem from behaviours that women promote, even TODAY. As a result, you create men who behave horrifically, lest…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:56 PM
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The RP doesn’t talk enough about how much your view of women is corrupted by sleeping around. Not even sleeping around, but even platonically, I'm not part of the RP, but generally I think men who grew up around women should explain to men that women really aren't any different, they're not more saintly or innocent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:50 PM
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How are you purposefully twisting the original comment to justify these vulgar scenarios? The point I made was valid as it traces its roots back to humanities cave man days, so of course the theory about the patriarchy makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:14 AM
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If you’ve been with a decent number of women (30+) you understand them better than they understand themselves Id like to add, that if you've been around women your whole life, whether platonically or romantically, you start viewing them less innocently and more critically
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:09 AM
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There was this psychology and history major, back in 2021 he made this tiktok discussing a theory he had about the patriarchy and the violent nature of men, and how it was women who created the patriarchy by selectively promoting and breeding with men who had those toxic, violent patriarchal tropes, and honestly, a lot of people saw the logic behind his theory as he was discussing womens behaviour in relation to their relations with men, and how it's tied to the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:59 PM
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"When men are in love they become more timid." One of the easiest ways to tell if a guy doesn't like you like that is if he's awfully confident around you. It's easier to be confident and charm a woman if you don't really like her like that(this is also men don't find confidence attractive the way women do💀), this why assholes tend to be so charming. Guys get nervous around girls they like. When a guy really likes you, or finds you exceptionally pretty , they'll be extremely nervous, shy. They'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:55 PM
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You were soo close, that's not what gets to most guys, it's the reasoning provided. Instead of acknowledging that women are sleeping with these attractive assholes cause they're attractive, they rationalize it psychologically, by trying to paint a moral picture behind sleeping with these guys, which the attractive guy himself contradicts. I don't think most guys would care if women just came out and acknowledged the real reason behind sleeping with these men, instead of spinning a moral reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:47 PM
2

No one market is exactly the same as another, but there are general principles shared by various markets, the dating market follows the same principles, and has the same formula as a consumer market
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:22 PM
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If all he wanted was s*x why would he stick around, if a man wanted to stick around, he wouldn't be desperate, that level of effort would have been slow and gradual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:04 AM
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It's called the dating "market" for a reason, it's a competitive consumer market, so long as an analogy can get that point across, it's a fair analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:59 AM
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The point of an analogy is not to read nice, but to get the blunt message across, which this analogy does
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:00 AM
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It's called an analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:49 AM
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It's just entitlement, instead of working on themselves, they just want their cake and to eat it too, they don't even men through the same psychological lense as they would view themselves, it's why there's soo much hypocrisy from their end
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:05 PM
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I've realised that a lot of women will not listen purely because they don't want to change their outlook about their desires and wants, rather they try to force all men to behave the way they want and be sincere, which defeats genuinuity, they refuse to accept that love is built through time and effort, they want things right away like a dopamine addiction, which only love bombers can mimick, because it's all an act. It's why women fall for virtue signalling soo easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:53 PM
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Your husbands an outlier, but generally amongst men it's well established that if he's too confident and a smooth talker from the get go, he's had a lot of practice and success. General rule of thumb is, if he's awkward around you, he doesn't talk to women romantically very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:41 PM
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Clearly you don't know men very well, yes when a man is in love with a woman he would cross a frozen continent for her, he would go above and beyond for her, but the difference is, it's slow and gradual, not right away, that side of a man creeps out very slowly and gradually. In the beginning stages he's f*cking awkward, his efforts are random, like a spur, spontaneous almost, even gifts will be second thought, dates will be second guessed, there will be awkward silence. The above and beyond sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:38 PM
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That level of effort screams desperation though, it's obvious red flags, like virtue signalling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:05 PM
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Describing how he was with you already feels like red flags to me, he's charming, bought you things, planned ahead for you, to a guy that's red flags, he's too confident, smooth and transactional, almost like he's in a rush. I think that's the problem, women are attracted to traits that are red flags to other guys, but not to them. A guy who's interested in you for real will be very awkward around you, because he's second guessing how to not mess up interacting with you, he'll stutter, jumble wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:05 PM
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1) No one should be second or third pick, it doesn't take the red pill to understand that, your partner should always be your first pick 2) This is a dangerous way of looking at things as it absolves men who are picked, from accountability or responsibility, a woman becomes solely to blame for any repercussion of choosing her man 3) It's a dystopic way of looking at things, if you call this the natural order of things, then you're insinuating that the patriarchy and misogyny are also the natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:11 PM
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Psychology 101, you don't encourage change in behaviour by blaming the victim demographic for isolated incidents. Socialization is enforced by society, men AND women, and when a specific type of socialization is normalised, it becomes impossible to change it across the board without societal reforms and major activism and mainstream movements. As it stands, men aren't the primary instigators of negative socialization, men seek reformation but until mainstream idealism of men changes, the sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:22 AM
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Not a single mother (I am not ready to be a father yet) Has to be single Not plus size or obese has to be loyal, supportive and loving Not a psycho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:43 PM
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It is arguably, worldwide men are subjected to the worst role, complete emotional deprivation, suicides much higher, having to work 24/7, subjected to the worst labour, worldwide men have it soo much worse than in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:23 PM
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Neither, they both sound like absolute hell, seriously, where do y'all come up with these outta pocket scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:43 PM
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The alternative is a trad relationship, which most women wouldn't want and most men cannot do: 1) Most men can't financially sustain a whole relationship on their own 2) I doubt most women want to do all the house chores
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:49 AM
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Its soo transactional and materialistic, theres no human element to any of these scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:40 PM
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Thats the thing about identity politics, it runs on a hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:43 AM
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Degrading how? Thats just chronically online perspective, most men aren't going out of their way to attack any woman they deem fat. And even if men perceive a woman as fat, an accurate understanding of the human anatomy is not needed to determine how you feel about what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:00 AM
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You're looking too deep into it, people don't see semantics, no one looks at a person's body and thinks mathematically or scientifically. They just see what they see and decide what they think about it, thats really just it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:42 AM
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Honestly, a woman like that shouldn't be a partner to anyone. But for the most part, these gender norms passed down from the industrial age, but honestly, screw these norms, with the way the economy is going, it'll become an inevitable topic of discussion for future generations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:22 PM
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Yeah, that period basically set into motion all the gender norms and rules that apply even today
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:19 PM
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Actually it was, this isnt even an opinion, it's a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:19 PM
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Exactly, its why the whole trad wife, housewife gimmick is soo violently being pushed to the public, its not natural, it didn't even work for the brief period of time it was present
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:13 PM
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Couldn't be further from the truth, its such a black and white view. All of my relationships started with splitting 50/50 on the first date. Infact, of the many first dates ive gone to, where i paid, nothing happened, bare in mind i put effort, so you cant object in respect to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:31 PM
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Around, for that brief period life was completely different, but before the industrial revolution women absolutely worked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:27 PM
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Yeah it was
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:26 PM
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I dont know about you, but universities weren't mainstream for anyone but Nobles back then, and noble women could pursue it, just look at hypatia or cleopatra. Also, the workforce only came into effect after the industrial revolution, before that women would work, self fruits, vegetables, garments etc, the worklife was different back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:26 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:46 PM
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The sprinkle sprinkle movement is internet brain rot, dont pay attention to it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:51 PM
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Its not the way things were for hundreds of years, its a relatively new, capitalist problem. Historically the provider role was shared
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:49 PM
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Historically, for most of human history men and women were both providers, the act of providing was never just on the man. So this provider issue is a modern problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:48 PM
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It is realistic, the idea of the age gap didnt drop from the sky, its seen- experienced, and judging by women's reactions, its more common than you care to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:45 AM
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It doesnt have to be a golddigger, too many women want a man who has money to spend, older men have it more often than younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:43 AM
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Wrong, all that was said was that violence against women cannot be used to justify everyother man having to live under a transactional relationship. And you ofcourse came along and shifted the narrative to evade the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:42 AM
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The answer you're looking for is money, i grew up watching women go for older guys over money, sucked then, but i understood how it worked
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:44 PM
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A lot of women care about money, which younger guys don't have
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:41 PM
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You're trying too hard, all it translates into, is: "the experience of violence must never be gatekept by women, violence against men is far more normalised than violence against women"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:38 PM
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Your face might not have been average, just the body didn't go with it. Also, factor in clothes, skin, hair, body, race etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:03 AM
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Historically men never paid, the whole dating culture is relatively new. But in the past women paid dowry, so technically women paid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:34 PM
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Historically men never paid, the whole dating culture is relatively new. But in the past women paid dowry, so technically women paid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:34 PM
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Historically men never paid, the whole dating culture is relatively new. But in the past women paid dowry, so technically women paid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:34 PM
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I doubt you'll be happy to be the domestic trad wife
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:31 PM
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I doubt you'll be happy to be the domestic trad wife
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:30 PM
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Agreed, its become soo absurd, that peoples obsession with these terms has created a million meanings to it--which clearly shows they aren't self evident truths, but just stereotypes fuelled by bias
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:10 AM
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1) you straight up support pre-modern (50s) femininity, so by your own logic, idolising it should be supported 2) you mean discussions that have nothing to do with the post, but the trigger words? Your post is a self contradiction, your post can easily be broken down to: A) 50s femininity=good B) capitalism=bad (which i agree with) C) modern femininity=bad D) trad cons+manosphere=bad (which i agree with) But thats a closed loop, if you support pre-modern femininity, then the culprit of its fall …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:05 AM
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This entire scenario has bought out the brain rot in people, and its just pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:51 AM
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You honestly said a whole lot of nothing, if traditional femininity was destroyed via automation and the school system, like your post highlighted, then social perception would have no correlation to a negative perception of femininity. Furthermore, you haven't provided a solution either, if capitalism can no longer provide any opportunity for pre-modern femininity to exist in the modern world, your argument would have no correlation to tradcons or the manosphere, but would be directed towards c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:48 AM
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Im glad they understand the economic struggles of having children, getting married, but these economic reforms came too late, at this point the damage has been done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 12:29 PM
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Globally, age gaps are normal, but it doesn't mean its ethical, i remember a popular quora account, she's a 19yr old Egyptian woman, living in the UAE, she met, fell in love and married a 45yr old American man. That was just insane, they can do whatever they want, but it doesn't mean i cant find that gross. But whatever i guess, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 12:27 PM
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Its not the kind of youth you think they're talking about, just earn a higher bracket, build a social status and you'll likely find a guy. Contrary to what what men on here might say, women typically marry into their social class, to marry up, you need to climb up first
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:46 PM
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Clearly i was talking about the dating population, so you dont need to eliminate based on sex. Yes, it would eliminate 50% of women, still leaving him with 50%, thats not limiting. No its not the point, a standard filters, not limits, if you're only gonna find 1 person meeting your standard, the chances are you're not gonna meet that person, so your standards aren't really standards to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:44 PM
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A few years doesn't change much, but you'd also be competing with women of that demographic. Regardless, you need to increase your earning bracket for this to work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:38 PM
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Wrong, all standards filter potentials, which doesn't necessarily limit it, if your standards filter 50% of the population, that's not limiting, as you're still working with a large population. Its only limiting if you've gotten rid of 65%+ of potentials, anything below isnt limiting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:00 PM
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Wealthy doesn't equal millionaires, wealthy is a high bracket earner, top 20% those earning high 5 figures, 6 figures. If your salary is higher than most people in their 20s, that means most men and women your age earn less than you, eliminating most potential partners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:57 PM
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You're more likely to find narcissists amongst the wealthier demographic, also i was specifically talking about how small the pool of options will be, which would lead to those men taking advantage of their privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:47 PM
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I dont think op is specifically talking about women who make a high salary
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:16 AM
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Not really, its only limiting if your standards are maxed out, otherwise most standards aren't limiting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:14 AM
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Its not unreasonable, but given the state of the economy and the cost of living crisis, it will severely cut down your dating options, essentially you'll be limiting yourself to the absolute worst hand you can deal yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:13 AM
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1 could be worse than the other, but it certainly doesn't validate or justify it, they're both bad at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:26 AM
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Bears dont kill you, bears and tigers like inflicting pain on their victims, they start eating you alive, mauling you, then just pull away, only to continue again a little later, victims are alive for a few hours, albeit in terrible pain. Your average man is nothing compared to the cruelty of a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:25 AM
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The dystopic era kicked off way before 2019, atleast 2012, it didn't get as bad until 2018, post covid it hit a different level
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:34 PM
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I reckon 90s to 2006 was still good, pushing it to 2012 goes into the start of the social dystopic era, probably 2009 max. But generally the previous generations had it easier, the criteria for a relationship was just soo simple, the simplicity felt very human.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:22 PM
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I think we can all agree that dating and marriage was way easier in the previous generations than it is today
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:15 PM
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The 4b movement is not that big in korea, its very tiny, birth rates are low in korea due to the economy. Regardless, statistics from the likes of Pew show that the number of men no longer interested in relationships is the same as women. Especially given how expensive relationships are and how devastating late stage capitalism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:00 AM
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For my own sanity, id like to believe in the best case scenario, even if its deluded optimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:20 PM
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So would the men, its not just one sex switching
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:05 PM
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He got a point though, a swap like that would make both sides realise neither has it easy, so when they swap back, there would be more understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:59 PM
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I don't know man, i think if you only ask the women in your life, you're not gonna understand the men at all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:57 PM
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They would both hate it, i think men will have a rough idea of whats awaiting them, so they'll be somewhat prepared, but i do feel like it will hit women worse like a sudden, full force curveball. Most of society doesn't really talk about mens physical, social and emotional struggles, it gets brushed under the table, so when women do switch to being a man, the drastic difference will hit them pretty hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:56 PM
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I prefer a "in the middle" women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:50 AM
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...these contents are literally being made by women and they're getting millions of likes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:32 AM
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Maybe thats an exception, especially if she's a trad wife, its not my business what she does, but there is the provider husband and trophy wife wave on tiktok, the kind of relationship that my comment was addressing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:57 PM
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You've been living under a rock, the provider husband and trophy wife relationship is literally trending, especially on tiktok, theres a whole wave of the husband doing all the providing, leading and doing 80-100% of the housework, whilst the wife gets the final say in the relationship and is purely his trophy, her mere existence is the reward, she has to do nothing. Are you absent from social media or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:55 PM
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These simps are the cause of relationships being viewed transactionally and unfavourably, it does more harm than good, but good lord they set up the worst dynamics for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:01 AM
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Its not a strawman when its a contradiction to the dynamics of the kind of relationship they want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:45 AM
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Realities gonna hit hard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 01:10 AM
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The question is, where did this entitlement come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:28 AM
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They try to character assassinate any man who notices their problematic views, and then invalidate his take. Its easy to dismiss any mans objection when you label him a broke misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:27 AM
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I was saying the same thing to my cousin the other day after she spent the last 8 years as a feminist only to want a husband who is the textbook definition of a patriarchal man, but then she dials it back, which doesn't help her case. How could you want a rich provider husband, who does all the finances, leads the relationship, but also lets you have the absolute final say and he has to do all the house work? Its such a contradictory take it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:32 PM
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Especially with the emergence of trad wives+provider man trend blowing up on tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:51 AM
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Without a comparison you cant show the validity of the issue, if the op just talked about men, the entire discussion can easily be invalidated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:33 PM
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Why are women giving into the advances of married men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:02 PM
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Your standards are pretty basic, but the fact some people in the comments have a problem with it, is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:57 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:43 PM
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In your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:43 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:42 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:42 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:42 PM
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I would say these are all capitalism problems
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:22 AM
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I whole heartedly agree, I've seen firsthand how dangerous it can get
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:15 PM
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It sounds rude, but the premise is true, if he's making a million, and everything in her life is dependent on his finances, she's now dependant on him for survival by every definition of the word, his world is now her source of life. Thats how financial abuse happens, but ot gives a good look into the source
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:09 AM
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I dont understand why society places soo much emphasis on a virgin couple to just lose their virginity, with my first ex, sex wasn't in my mind, we were both virgins and happy to wait till marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:30 AM
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The provider mentality is for people who want to be in transactional materialistic relationships, the couple doesn't care nor love eachother, but neither of them have the ambition to be in a meaningful relationship, so they look at relationships as an aesthetic, turning the who thing into a monetary transaction, its why those relationships look soo fake with barely any chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:48 PM
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3rd paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:15 PM
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Most men are taught to be wary of honeypotting women and golddiggers too, i also know women are taught to stay virgins till marriage. Point is, people warn eachother about the worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:58 AM
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My god, why are you turning violence into a gender issue? If men and women fear dangerous people (which also includes dangerous women), sex clearly has no correlation here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:54 AM
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Ive dated here and there, my longest relationship was 2yrs, which is longer than most peoples relationship in the west. Generally, the culture in the west is such that it is quite hard to find a good woman who wants a stable, consistent relationship, most of the women in the west have a lifestyle and outlook on life thats designed for single people, so they cant really cope with being in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:25 PM
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Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:57 PM
0

Cause that is the criteria they use, killers don't look at sex to determine victims, they use your demeanor, your clothing/class, your social circle, your size, your facial expression etc, this has already been documented, netflix even did a commentary series on it. Most men are just easier targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:52 PM
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I dont know about you, but i do the same for my brothers, growing up my parents did the same for me, and im a fairly big guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:59 AM
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Im assuming you're smart enough to understand that men come in all ages, shapes and sizes, correct? You dont need me to hold your hand and teach you that, correct? You also dont need me to teach that irrespective of size, we are all equally helpless in front of a weapon, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:57 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:54 AM
-1

Ah, so every man is big and strong? in front of a weapon, your size matters not, not one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:54 AM
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It is, there have been numerous studies done, killers take everything into account when chosing the victim, ill attach the studies when i get home
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:53 AM
1

Ask me that after you read the post again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:51 AM
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Some of yall really don't read the post do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:51 AM
-10

That men view other men as easier victims, more vulnerable victims, THAT is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:34 AM
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Yeah, but men are killed at a higher rate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:27 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/25/young-men-relationships-study-week-in-patriarchy A recent Pew Research study has found that 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:26 AM
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I dont know about you but 60% of 25-29 year olds being single doesn't sound like a minority, and 40% of 30-34 year olds is not a small percentage, just 10 more and its half. Combine the stats, and its not remotely a minority, its almost half
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:12 AM
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Point 2 isnt just about chores, he specifically mentions how the man does all the finances, hence the chores are double the responsibilities as the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:58 PM
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Except its not saying anything about being the opposite of toxic, but filling in the gaps that toxic men didnt fill, but this goes to the extreme, where the guy essentially becomes the pushover, almost servant like, just for the validation of women, he does this by filling the gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:56 PM
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Except its not saying anything about being the opposite of toxic, but filling in the gaps that toxic men didnt fill, but this goes to the extreme, where the guy essentially becomes the pushover, almost servant like, just for the validation of women, he does this by filling the gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:56 PM
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The statistics contradict that. Theres not enough high value men to go around, hence why by 2030 almost half of all women will be single
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:13 PM
2

Double standards has become too common these days
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:48 PM
5

That last paragraph is spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:47 PM
4

Why is it surreal, loser women should be treated the same, otherwise treat everyone the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:46 PM
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They're already redpill, just against the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:45 PM
1

You got issues, this conversation has nothing to do with those men, but men in general getting generalised and judged, this entire thread is about how women are not held accountable as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:46 PM
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No they're not, most 18-25 are in the 70%, theres a reason why its a very specific demographic of 18-25 getting approached by men of all ages. Not desirability on its own, but coupled with attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:45 PM
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Except average women today think they're in the top 20, and the bottom worst women all think they're 7s at worst
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:55 PM
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Attraction isnt only to do with beauty, it can be a person's personality, ambition, hobby etc If there is no attraction, that is not a relationship, its a monetary partnership at best, and no, the vast majority of relationships are not like, thank god, you have no business being in a relationship if its just about viewing your partner as a monetary asset for your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:20 PM
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You got serious issues if you think demanding men do 80% of the relationship duties is advocating for women to screen men better, its the opposite, its asking for entitled women to have their men pander to them like a glorified servant. I shame you for your despicable views, views that you guise as activism, mask its tolerance under freedom of speech. Absolutely disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:00 PM
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You're conflating lifestyle, life goals and relationship effort into one, they're not the same, nor are they effected by time and age the same. You mentioned travelling, do you think you'll be able to travel at the same rate 20yrs in the future? You go on fancy dates everyother day, say you're financially struggling for whatever reason, will you be able to go on dates at the same rate. Say one of you gets a promotion, a better job, that requires more time and days, do you think any reduction in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:13 PM
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True, i had a successful lawyer give us a lecture at college, part of ambition and success is the long long hours, how little time there is for yourself, so most successful people avoid relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:53 PM
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And what makes you think its the man lacking in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:50 PM
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Those women aren't worthy of respect and no man should put up with them, explains the divorce rate. Just stay single, instead of ruining a mans life, its that easy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:49 PM
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All it does is expose entitled women who ruined a mans life cause they're too stubborn to stay single and decided to settle for someone they consider meh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:48 PM
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"In some way" That contradicts the post What you're describing is called a transactional relationship, hardly worth calling a relationship, more like a pay for service.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:45 PM
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Thats a discussion the couple needs to have, but theres no reason to make a post like this, if its an issue that couples face, the post could have talked about it, instead of whatever spite this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:43 PM
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If being a good person is what it takes to be in a relationship, we'd never have failed relationships. Being a good person has nothing to do with this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:57 AM
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You're putting soo much preasure on what men should be, that most men would just die from the effort. Thats way too much you're expecting out of men, he's human, so dial it back a bit. Just courting alone is a lot of work, men want peace above all things, so when you say he's no longer ambitious, have you considered that maybe he was, but is now tired? Have you tried communicating? Coming up with a game plan, perhaps you have an idea he didnt even think off, and hearing it is enough for him to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:54 AM
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You really fumbled with that comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:45 AM
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If 80% of women procreated with 20% of men, humans would have gone extinct thousands of years ago from incest and genetic defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:51 AM
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Thats not 50/50, thats more 80/50, 50/50 is splitting the domestic and financial responsibilities equally, done, problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:48 AM
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Why'd she get in a relationship with the guy in the first place, just sounds like she's entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:46 AM
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Why didnt they stay single then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:45 AM
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Thats honestly pathetic, just stay single, why are you purposefully ruining another mans life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:43 AM
2

That just sounds entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:42 AM
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If she can't attract who she likes, she should stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:40 AM
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What a dumb post, a relationship isnt just sex, its companionship, its wanting a partner, if you're only looking at it from a sexual market value, you've made the whole thing transactional, thats like saying for every responsibility a man has, he gets sex everytime he does it, does that sound sane to you. Splitting responsibilities 50/50 is a testament to how much they emotionally and mentally value eachother and the relationship. Your views are honestly disgusting, and in a relationship scenari…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:37 AM
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Yeah, i did
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:31 PM
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50 is quite literally the average, it means 5/10, which is the number of people above average and below him are the same, making him average
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:39 AM
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No, but i wrote my thesis on those peer reviews, ah, so the scientific method is just guesses?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:07 AM
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Theres a reason why the average is called average, they're above 50%. Above average looks and tall are literally in the 16%, theres a reason why the majority of men are inactive, because the spectrum above average is still valued as an average, which only leaves the top 20% men. True
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:06 AM
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Dictionary.com and even Wikipedia defines it as a good looking, tall, popular, rich alpha male You cant use your own experience to define reality, use statistics, an average height is 5'9, even in the modelling industry that heights not accepted, on dating app statistics women filter above 6ft. Height on its own isnt enough, thats why there are tall incels, women want a flawless, sculpted greek god of a man, ridiculously attractive and tall, wealthy, has status, a lot of social attention etc, TH…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:03 AM
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No, its called peer reviews, you realise there are academics that study ancient humans, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:38 AM
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She's the problem in every scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:37 AM
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I dont think you understand, none of that is a chad. Also womens beauty standards are very specific, an average or short guy isnt considered attractive, even with a pretty face. Niche attracts niche, theres really not much to say, theres a reason why the statistics show that most men and women are single and sexually inactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:36 AM
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A very tiny minority if you're going by stats, but just above average isnt a chad, niche and masculine men are not chads either. And they all pretty much struggle the same as the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:33 AM
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No ones blaming women, but just like women spent the last decade calling out mens unrealistic beauty standards, men can do the same for women. It doesn't take away from the right to attraction, to admit that the standards are ridiculously high, and perhaps encourage empathy towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:31 AM
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Tf you mean provoke women? Purple pill are the middle ground, they call out anyone they disagree with, regardless if they're man or woman, red or blue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:27 AM
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Its easier to get married overseas, than to get laid, women are more traditional in those countries, and as a western man, its not the least bit hard to get married overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 07:22 PM
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You've got some nerve saying that, i know what i am, ive been at odds with red pillers for years now, but im not biased, ill call out blue pillers just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:01 PM
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Im not holding your hand for every link, can you link me anything to prove your case? Didn't think so, but the threads have plenty links
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:47 PM
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Attraction CAN be controlled, its a common myth that it cant, attraction fluctuates with age and is influenced by the media you're exposed to, the cultivation theory and mere exposure effect are perfect representation of how attraction can be molded based on the media you're exposed too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:46 PM
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Thats not the issue, the issue is that average men feel like average women are shooting above their league, leaving 2 out of every 10 guys to get all the attention, in that sense it makes sense that they would have an objection. Meanwhile those chads view most women in the same league as most men. So basically everyone's standards are above their worth, except for the chads, who will sleep with anyone but want relationships with chad equivalent women. But attraction CAN be controlled, its a comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:45 PM
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Im not spending 40min on reddit, i have things to do. But check the links in this thread and check some of the posts, just take the body count post yesterday
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:39 PM
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Women are literally no different, when men post anything, even something legitimate and genuine, women flog them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:58 PM
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If he's charming, social, wealthy and attractive, he's gonna be abusive, thats a perfect blend for a narcissist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:03 AM
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Ive found women in the west dont take accountability for anything, a very well known psychologist in the UK was put on blast because she expressed how women in the west just don't take accountability for anything, even for situations like cheating, they'll rationalise it. If a woman has a history of abusive exes, clearly her standards are the problem, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:00 AM
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Ill be honest, i hope im never put in that situation, cause if a woman like that was THAT dedicated to me, pursuing me that hard and had a good personality, id fold... Then dive to my end
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:50 PM
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Theres absolutely not enough of those guys to go around
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:43 PM
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They don't, theres not enough chads, they're a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:42 PM
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Its not a cop out in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:36 AM
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Sounds like you're projecting and deflecting. The grass isnt greener on our side either, the majority of womens profiles are soo generic and badic that its become a running joke that womens profiles are just copy and pasted. The fact is, if you go on the subreddits for each dating apps, the profile review threads show hundreds of high quality profiles getting no matches. Whether or not men get matches has 0 correlation to the quality of the profile. Its rare cause of your criteria, if your crite…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:36 AM
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Wrong, its still biological, nothing to do with culture. This is instinctual in practically every man, despite the culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:00 AM
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Its not cultural, its biology, early humans evolved towards monogamy to avoid demographic problems, in which genetic diversity was at risk, and part of monogamy was control over everyones sexual autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:49 PM
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Chosing to have sex with men who aren't great says a lot about a womans character
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:46 PM
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Cause its not believable to say that you turned down dozens of men, if its a long line of past sexual partners, its red flags to hear a woman say that she's the one who turned down all those men: 1) the common denominator is usually the problem, in this case, those long line of past partners outnumber you, clearly you were the problem 2) depraved morality, how can you say you turned down all your partners, yet you slept with them? Clearly you dont have your priorities straight. 3) bigger chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:43 PM
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Your take couldn't be more disgusting, entire cultures and religions revolve around marriage, and your take is "nah". If effort is what matters, men in the west would mostly be dating, gget into relationship easy, fact is, networking is important in finding someone, arranged marriages provide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:37 PM
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Completely false, an arranged marriage come from families proposing a potential, you meet them, if you like them, you marry them, otherwise back to the proposals board. Forced marriage and arranged marriage are 2 completely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:35 PM
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Except men aren't only attracted to conventionally attractive women, womens standards in women is far more diverse, they'll find more women attractive than not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:43 PM
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If a womans standard was just a good guy, they'll never struggle with finding a guy. If a womans standard was moral compatibility, they'd never struggle to find that guy. The problem is, most women have very specific materialistic standards, as well as pre- requisites, and they want the moral compatibility and good character added on top, that basically sets them up for failure, cause no matter how hard they try, they'll never find such a specific guy, the probability is way too small, practical…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:12 AM
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You're taking the definition of a simp and applying it to attraction, when a simp is someone who seeks women's validation, especially at the cost of his own self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:57 AM
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Wanting attraction and wanting validation are 2 different things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:50 PM
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The truth is always in the middle, it doesnt take a repulsive personality for the blue pill to feel absurd, it just takes disagreement with some of the core principles-- thats the thing about extreme ideologies, they start off on the right track of each side of the spectrum, instead of working their way to the middle, they continue to go even further into their spectrums, to the deepest parts where the movement now feels absurd to any sane person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 01:01 AM
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Then again he's speaking from the point of a gen z, which is not going to effect older generations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:27 AM
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Not through apps is the point he's making, which is true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:21 AM
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Thats a very misogynistic way of viewing women in third world countries. You know people can speak more than 1 language right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:30 AM
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You good buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:24 AM
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Ah, so you're saying girls from other countries are lesser women? You saying long distance relationships are for losers too. You're giving insecure vibes mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:24 AM
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As a wise man once said, "its better to be wanted for something than to not be wanted at all"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:45 AM
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Havnt come across such a woman yet, but thats not the worst part, somehow its a turn off for yall when we do think about splitting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:36 PM
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It goes out the window cause of preasure that yall put on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:02 PM
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I am gen z myself, literally one of the biggest debates happening is that men want to split dates, all of social media is flooded with it, we even started a whole movement as to why we should be given flowers too, and even started the narrative that women should ask men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:32 PM
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Thats a generalisation perpetrated by stereotyping men based on older generations. Most msn would love to split finances and receive any kind of gift, even flowers. Most men would greatly respect a woman who asked him out. Cause men are human at the end of the day, they feel the same emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:04 PM
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Whats size queen and blacked? Im not an expert on porn, just normal stuff. I would be worried if it was threesomes and stuff like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:59 PM
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I wouldnt care, but it depends on the category she's watching too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:49 PM
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You can spin it how you want, but women are definitely in the wrong here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:44 AM
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I dont get horniness confused with love, i know what I feel when I feel it. I notice the red flags, i just dont seek a relationship with her just cause I'm attracted to her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:43 AM
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If a man has a history of a certain behaviour, her felt for chosing him. If she has a history of the same behaviour, he shouldn't have picked her, but i understand him, i understand why he felt compelled to go for her. The chances are he's struggling in the dating market, she gave him all the attention, he folded
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:05 AM
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Been around too many women throughout my life, you eventually pick up. Its the same everytime, they get the tingles when they're attracted to the man, even when its obvious the dudes red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:56 AM
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All women who pick bad partners, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:55 AM
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Being attracted to materialism is childish, so they aren't necessarily wrong. Im ok, in the middle Rare exception, but you got my respect for being with him at his lowest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:21 AM
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Even though Morocco is one of the most common destinations for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:19 AM
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Not necessarily a professional athlete, but he played football/soccer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:18 AM
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No, men dont pick the women, women pick the men. Men chose women based on personal logic, i.e which woman will give him time of day, which woman will consider him, which woman is in the same socio-economic compatibility etc etc. Most men know, they have no power in pursuing the women they want, but the fear of loneliness is too strong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:15 AM
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Money, status and the looks gives the tingles. So go for broke, invisible and average looking guys, and all a woman will use as a standard is his character, boom, problem solved lol No, but for real, just throw away the material standards, focus only on character, shouldnt be hard to make the right choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:11 AM
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Thats a whole lot of nothing you said there. 1) women have the ultimate power in chosing the man 2) they can say no to all the suitors that pursue them 3) women insist they never be approached, so the suitors who pursue them should be red flags 4) women can pursue men of their own interests
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:07 AM
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The narratives the same, nothings changed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:04 AM
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The tingles comes from the man being materially well off, tall and rich is exactly what gives these women the tingles in most case scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:04 AM
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The mistake was chosing him, if you're cheating on your partner, you never made a firm choice in picking your partner to begin with. I've never cheated on my exes, cause when i was with them, i made sure i was 100% firm that they were the women i wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:03 AM
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Yall always wanna make the men in the wrong, even when a scenario is about a womans choice. We know that most men are not bad, we know that women chose the man, therefore if woman end up in dead end relationships, we can conclude that woman dont have healthy criterias and standards for picking a partner. The alternative would be all men are psychological masterminds which we know men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:01 AM
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No no, you're completely wrong here, i literally come from that background, even deadbeats can get married abroad, ive got unemployed family members even low wage friends who got married abroad. Convincing fathers is not hard, standards are low for you if you're from a developed country. Hell, i almost got married 3x from abroad proposals made to my family. Its honestly the best shot. Western women are typically the hardest to get in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:35 PM
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Yeah but he was pulling women even when we were younger, and he was shorter, the height helped a lot, but he had a lot going for him from the get go
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:20 PM
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I dont stand incest. And thats a tribute, completely different to fantasising. If my friend m*sturbated to me, i could care less
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:13 PM
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I meant men, not women, most men know that it's almost impossible to attract women in the west, as such most men are becoming more conservative, looking for a wife in other countries, in particular other cultures, to also have a community. Migrants have the most children, so international marriages are the only consistent rate of marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:48 PM
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I've learnt this through trial and experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:45 PM
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6'4
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:43 PM
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No ones interested in eachother on dating apps either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:54 PM
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I remember when i was 16, i was in school, crying at the passing of a friend, this group of girls just straight mocked me for crying, still remember it to this day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:50 PM
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My prediction is the rise is conservatism, international marriages and the rise in religiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:47 PM
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The risk is there even if you dont have high status friends, part of the reason i mentioned modest girls in the post, was because there were "religious" conservative girls that were in relationships, trying to get with him, it was jaw dropping, absolutely shocking, cause we knew some of these women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:20 AM
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Its literally in the mind, so no, doesn't mean anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:49 PM
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He did, you didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:31 PM
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You got issues, how is it grape if you have sexual feelings for someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:28 PM
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That couldn't be further from the truth, they both perceive women the same, one just has the material power to use women for self pleasure, whilst the other doesn't. But then again, success with women has no correlation to your world view, half the blue pill community doesn't have success with women, jyst like the red pill. Its too nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:24 PM
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In every class, but selectively, everyone is selective in what they believe, but the act of him criticising radical feminism and radical leftism immediately gets an applaud from everyone, even if he's said other things that no one agrees with, it will get overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:21 PM
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British here, unlike America we have far more exposure to the negative side of feminism and liberalism, conservatives have even backed away from it and so have the labour party-- Andrew Tate is more like a massive reformation of the radical feminism and liberalism that has angered a largely, culturally, conservative population. Similarly, in the UK, we emphasise on the difference between economic liberalism and social liberalism. The public wants social conservatism and economic liberalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:14 PM
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Do you have any statistics to back any of that up? Cause the red pill community says the same thing about women, so who's right? Lets call it what it is, a generalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:09 PM
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In a way it exposes the shallow women and keeps you away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:08 PM
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I was using John Rassons definition of the human experience, basically men experience a more diverse experience of life and at a larger rate, if the human experience includes socio, economic and survival struggles, as well as relief and content with every little accomplishment, men end up with a far greater human experience, they are more likely to have their lives represent life on earth, at a much higher rate than women. Also, its not about experience, men experience emotions at a higher rate …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:10 AM
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Kinda scary if im honest, i always found men to be more empathetic and selfless compared to women, almost like men represent the human experience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:57 AM
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Yeah i can call it an ideology, because that analogy can be applied to RP, and theres no argument against it. Also, going by that analogy, non-christians still consists of other Abrahamic faiths, so the devils still a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:58 AM
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I generally find blue pillers to be performative, they're more concerned with social validation, and that sort of behaviour only comes from a place of privilege. Its why they're quick to invalidate anyone who's views, perception and experience remotely questions the pillars of blue pill ideology, because often, they cant relate to the experiences of everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:18 PM
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You're describing asocials not introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:29 PM
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With fairness to them, they feel the same way about women in developed countries
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:14 PM
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Im sorry but you sound racist as hell to generalise all the non-white countries into 1 category, honestly that last paragraph is disgusting to even read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:07 PM
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That last sentence makes it seem like women are things to rent, in an attempt to interpret the worst out of the opposition, you're creating the worst narrative. Anyway, you need to look at it from their pov, its more like the bots will be emulating the closest things to intimacy for humans who otherwise have a bleak life of loneliness, thats not a bad thing, the alternative is literally nothing, which is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:35 AM
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The alternative is leaving men to a bleak life of loneliness, which is very dangerous. The robots aren't people, but it will atleast come close to emulating intimacy, which is better than none, so let it be, its not messed up, its more humans trying to make the best out of a situation they cant change
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:31 AM
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Sex bots isn't gonna happen anytime soon, but AI and virtual porn will become a reality soon, i reckon customizable porn will become a thing, powered by AI and virtual reality. But sex bots are still a far away thing, maybe 50yrs or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:27 AM
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More like "honey, im sorry you dont feel as comfortable and trusting with me as you did with that ONS, i guess i have to compete with him a lot longer to gain the same level of trust and comfort as you got from him within a few hours of meeting him" "yes babe, he earned it, you havnt yet"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:13 PM
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Attraction and comfort, women will never cross that line with a man unless she's emotionally invested in that man, why do you think when women seek fun, they're still selective? This is not red pill, its the truth, women can spin it however they like, but any explanation is plain disrespectful to the guy who has to wait. Its like saying "i slept with this guy on the first date cause i was comfortable crossing that line with him, but im not with you" theres just no other explanation to it. Id gla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:07 PM
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True though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:20 PM
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"women dont engage in sex unless they're attracted to a man, as well as feel comfortable with him..." "... as well as feel comfortable with him" Dont half quote me, also dobt compare men and womens sexual desires, men have no standards on who they'll sleep with when they're horny, women do, women evaluate any man they sleep with, especially on a emotional level, thats facts, otherwise they'd mindlessly sleep with any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:18 PM
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I should have clarified, i was talking about masters, student loan doesn't cover maintenence for masters, but individual universities do, but most unis only do it for women, with a few accepting race
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:12 PM
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The first thing we've seen eye to eye on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:10 PM
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What do you think sexual dynamics are? They influence the rate at which you have sex. Are you suggesting that women who engage in sex with different men at different rates were all valied the same? You're the one being the child here, this is basically psychology, women dont engage in sex unless they're attracted to a man, as well as feel comfortable with him, if it takes a woman longer to feel that with a man, thats red flags right there. You understand that women are not exempt from stringing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:10 PM
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Even though what you're suggesting will cause mass incest down the line? Ending the species, theres a reason why monogamy is the norm across the animal kingdom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:05 PM
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Maintenance loan
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:20 PM
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Wrong, thats invalidating my experience and feelings. Attraction determines how quickly she sleeps with a man. If she slept with her ex right away, she desired him more within a shorter period of time than she did me in that same period of time. Nothing insecure about that, its literally a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:19 PM
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Paying for the first date makes no sense in my opinion, 2 strangers should split it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:17 PM
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It kind of is, in my college women were entitled to maintenance, even though i came from a low economic background, i wasnt entitled to it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:16 PM
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How is it predatory to want a virgin??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:13 PM
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I swear gen z is increasingly anti-feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:12 PM
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Actually thats valid, i have nothing against waiting, but if i know that she's given it easier to other men in the padt and I have to wait, to me im not just a back up, someone strung along
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:11 PM
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Im not against lesbians...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:07 PM
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Have you been living under a rock? The whole objectification movement was about criticising mens standards, it was vilified as unrealistic standards. Yes, we were preasured to mold our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:06 PM
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You're waffling here, this isnt philosophy, physical attraction is not a mental image, it is what your eyes see. Attraction is the first criteria people use to have someone be a potential romantic interest. Yes, compatibility determines whether you get into a relationship or not, but attraction is the first criteria by which you select potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:05 PM
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I personally think its ridiculous to compare men from different eras or backgrounds to modern men in the west, given that the dating scene is completely different in the west compared to the east, or how its different from the past. Modern men are the product of modern dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:01 PM
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You mean standards they cant reach? Cause if you have a scenario in which the majority cant reach the goals, the goals are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:58 PM
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Thats what attraction is, romantic interest is something different, but attraction is attraction. Id definitely want to get to know them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:57 PM
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You missed the point of the thread, she can stay single for life, idgaf. The pount is that why are unrealistic standards a problem when men have them, but not when women have them? If society made it a mission to address mens unrealistic standards, why do we normalise the same behaviour from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:56 PM
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Thats definitely not true, most men are definitely attracted to most women. But the second part is true, finding someone attractive is not the same as being romantically interested in them. But attraction definitely makes the approach and opportunity easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:53 PM
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The point here is that womens standards are unrealistically high, and that is what needs to be addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:36 PM
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It just means that the unrealistic standards placed on men is not criticised enough, as much as it was when the reverse occured
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:34 PM
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But its saying that if women find the majority of men unattractive, then clearly theres a problem with unrealistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:33 PM
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The human brain is not designed to empathise with people with who you share no similar experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:23 PM
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Thats a massive generalisation, you cant assume from a handful of observations, you cant assume about me either as my ex did sex work in the past, also, you never inquired as to their reason or world view. If they truly hold disgust, it would be across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:44 AM
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Yeah, i mentioned family in my comment. Thats your assumption, i have my own reasons i wouldn't date a woman in porn, because its gut wrenching to know that her sexual history is in the open for everyone to see, its intimate. Similarly i wouldnt date an mma woman for the same reason or a cop, or a secret service woman Its value is identical, you can oppose 2 things for 2 different reasons, just like i dont hate porn and the ufc, in the same sentence i can say i disprove of anyone in my life enga…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:37 AM
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That is exactly what you're saying though. That just cause you enjoy porn but dont date a woman in porn, you're anti-porn. I enjoy the UFC, but i dont want my family in that sport nor will i date anyone in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:26 AM
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Are you dense? An ad hominem is a description of a persons behaviour, in the real world you call people out, you dont bring up the terminology of their behaviour. But, from our brief discussion, I can say with certainty you're definitely not right in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:24 AM
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You're missing basic binary here, you can indulge in something, but not participate in it, sure i like movies, but im not gonna cast myself in one, similarly i enjoy a burger, but that wouldn't be my job, you can enjoy a medium and not be interested in being part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:13 AM
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In the real world thats an ad hominem, what you did is called an assumption, crazy, i know, but apparently you're not exposed to the real world often since everything is black and white to you. Theres something called nuance, you attack the message, not the context. And since we are in this particular thread, which is solely about social interactions in social settings, you've failed basic 101 in debating. If people aren't interested in talking to you, thats not harassment, thats just disinteres…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:10 AM
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You have serious issues mate, you made out all that over a 4 to 5 word reply? I swear you're performative as they come. A social setting is designed for socialising, aint nobody saying anything about harassment. So get your reading comprehension sorted first Mr WhiteKnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:55 PM
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Looking at Japan and Korea, thats the global future
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:48 PM
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Except the initial post has 0 mention of the streets, a cafe approach is perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:46 PM
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I never understood why women prefer apps and social media, the odds are literally stacked against them, the probability of them finding anything meaningful is close to 0
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:43 PM
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That couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:17 AM
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"fine with" almost like a last resort, besides it doesn't take into account south and east asian men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:19 AM
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I know, most migrants are south and east asian men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:18 AM
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Rarely, and to top it all off, with gen z its far lower
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:51 AM
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White men generally date and marry out at a disproportionately higher rate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:59 AM
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You're more likely going to see a lot of white men and non-white women relationships, but white women are not going to marry out or get into relationships, but they'll likely start radical movements against those interracial relationships. Men of ethnic backgrounds will likely start marrying women from abroad as a result of struggling in the western dating pool. But all of its going to stir into existence the worst radical movements you'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:56 AM
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