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Or maybe the shallow people are the loudest so they get the most attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:25 AM
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Honestly, its just culture, western Europe had women with rights way before America, and prior to the rise of 21st century liberal feminism in America, countries where women had rights did not spiral into misandry, almost every developed country did not have this outcome until America decided to popularise that culture, and even now, every developed free nation unanimously agrees that American politics is far too radical
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:12 AM
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Absolutely welcome 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:31 AM
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Damn...ive never seen anyone provide THE perfect solution to this problem like you have. Respect
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:16 PM
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Walked right into that one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:20 PM
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It radicalised women to be toxic, alienated men to the right, creating the biggest divide between the sexes we've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:39 PM
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For everyone, but it is a failed movement, so not odd, just predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:36 PM
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Instead it promoted further inequality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:31 PM
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I mean 80% is damn good, really good, my ball park was in the 60s-70s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:28 PM
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If you're lacking the last one, he's cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:00 PM
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Loyal, supportive, free spirited, caring, uplifting, good communication, not a hypocrite, emotionally stable and no crazy hedonistic past
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:59 PM
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This, pretty much perfectly put
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:30 AM
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I've never had problems with having male friends 1) that's rare 2) what made you seek out your friendship with these men? Cause ive found that women dont want to befriend a man unless he's attractive, has other material or superficial value or she's keeping those men as backup. Men are far more suspicious of other men in these cases. Yeah cause women go around telling on themselves all the time, thats why men are suspicious, cause we know its not just some good character friend, you befriended h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:45 PM
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Why on earth would any sane man wanna pick up women on Instagram? You dont find commitment at bars either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:48 PM
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😂 if its just there, cant help it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:34 PM
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Ironically ive found that more men are willing to have a platonic friendship with women than the reverse, most women ive seen will never agree to a platonic relationship with a man unless she's attracted to him or keeping him as a backup incase her first choice man dont work out. But purely platonic, barely seen any woman actually as interested in it as men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:57 PM
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Tell them, not us, they're the ones saying they're happy single, but complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:10 PM
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where do you see women choosing to be single complaining? Literally everywhere, its a common occurrence, unless you're oblivious and are hardly on the internet. It doesn't matter if single women can still hook up or not. That's not really her problem that men are still sexless for whatever reason. She is still overall happier single. Even if that's the main reason why, then so be it. Except the sample of the statistics are not representative of the study, as it doesn't measure the context and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:03 PM
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You'd think the happy single women wouldn't come online to complain either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:40 PM
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There's a difference between someone who has made the decision to be single and someone who happens to be single because they simply aren't in a relationship currently. We're not talking about the latter Between the men and women that have made the decision to be single, women tend to be happier statistically speaking. Thats such a misleading statistic, as it doesn't take into account womens situationships, fwb, casual hookups etc etc...for men when they're single they are also sexless and compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:40 PM
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Women say that but complain about dating and men more than anyone, you'd think happy single people would just go about their lives and never talk about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:07 PM
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Also natural selection, entitled women get eliminated from the gene pool, allowing humble parents to raise future daughters with reasonable standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:06 PM
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Men are encouraged to talk more about it, they never talk about it unless asked to Probably the same reason women go online and talk about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:26 PM
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Heres the thing, you dont belong in this argument, the rest of the thread is arguing about the justification of mens standards, we're using examples of the same value that women are now arguing against
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:43 PM
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You can define it however you want, but it still doesn't change the fact that its a standard, and it will have a different meaning and purpose for each person. For most men, its essentially like an unshakable ick, almost like a gag reflex at the sight of an unhygienic scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:49 PM
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A boundary and standard is not insecurity, is wanting a tall partner an insecurity? Most men want a woman with a low bodycount, because most men have a low bodycount, this is a reciprocative standard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:16 PM
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Slip of the tongue, people become comfortable with time and they drop boundaries, its the same way men find out about a womans sexual past. It takes too much effort and time to keep up the walls that blur out the past, you will start slipping, one slip after another. Cause its straining to be someone you're not. Honestly, people should just be honest and just find someone who wont care about the past instead of forcing people to accept it or lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:12 PM
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Ok then none of this discussion applies to you, but there are women who do care about that, and it breaks them when they do find out later on that their partner did more for their ex than her. Its the same logic here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:09 PM
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I don't know if you're being serious or trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:19 PM
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Really? So you wouldn't think anything if your husband poured more love on his ex than you? He spent more quality time with her, spent more money on her, did more for her etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:56 AM
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How would you feel if your husband did more for his ex than you? He took his ex on trips, bought her gifts, spent quality time with her, but he doesn't do that with you. Thats honestly the best example i can give you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:52 AM
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What is your advice? Get jacked and rich? Like everyone's not already trying that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:51 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:50 AM
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First off all I did not say 50% of men had no options I said they didn’t have many options and so they can’t be too picky if they actually want to be with a woman which you are now confirming by saying that “close to 50% of men” don’t date and remain single because they can’t actually get with the women who meet their standards. So you agree with me? If a man has standards that are too high he will just remain single. 50% of men in our ancestry did not reproduce compared to 90% of women. Guess t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:44 AM
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Who? 50% of men? Lol. A small portion of men truly have “options when it comes to women. That’s the point. You don’t have to be a total reject I’m not talking about men no woman wants to date. I’m talking about average decent men, these men don’t have a ton of options so they can’t afford to be too picky with women. In order for it to even make sense that “men in general” can reject women in their 30s “men in general” would all have to have the option to be with younger women they don’t especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:58 PM
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They would be LUCKY to get any woman of fertile age ever. “Biologically” speaking only females are in a position to be selecting Yes but are we talking about THOSE men here? They're already eliminated from the dating pool anyway. So let's talk about men who are actually desired by women, those men get to be picky, there's no such thing as being lucky enough for a womans attention, they're the only ones getting it to begin with, hence why those men get to set whatever standards they want. And we …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:08 PM
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You are way too angry here. Clearly no one is talking about men who are not desired here, but rather men who are. Like you said, women would rather stay single than compromise on their standards, so why are you talking about men who have no options or value and have no choice but to feel lucky that a woman who has passed "the wall" would give them attention? Those men aren't desired nor will be, as per your logic. So the question is directed towards women and the men that are desired, since the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:04 PM
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That kind of equilibrium is rare, in most relationships people seek a partner who has more, where socio economic state is the same, they seek a partner with physical traits above their own. I'm sure besides his economic state, you held physical standards too, right? Standards you don't meet yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:11 PM
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That's the thing, a man that has all those achievements should hold women to even higher standards. Perhaps hold women to moral, personality and physical standards to an even higher degree. Cause men are held to even higher standards even with the same achievement level as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:56 PM
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It's literally a statistic, the majority pornstars are women, or do you want links to stats? Oxford and Cambridge did a study that found that men who engaged in porn felt a greater strain in performance, there was little to no emphasis on a womans performance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:25 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypergamy "marriage into an equal or higher caste or social group" "the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background."- Oxford Dictionary Hypergamy isn't a red pill word, it has it's own red pill definition, but this is the general definition. Parents arranged marriages with whomever was best for their daughter/family background And no, political marriages had 0 interest in what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:23 PM
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🤦‍♂️ Are you dense or something? You still don't understand feudal societies, there was no such thing as the best of other poor men, how do you tell any of them apart? And fyi, there was no dating in feudal societies, it was arranged marriage, which means she married whoever benefitted her father, even if it's the worst possible choice by her standard. Again, hypergamy is a product of the modern internet age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:15 PM
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Hypergamy is not “new” - women in the past have always sought to be with the best man that was available to her. That’s what Hypergamy is… what do you think it is? Except for all of human history we lived in feudal societies, women could not marry the best man available, cause there was no such thing, not unless a woman was born into a lords class. Why do you think mass poverty existed for most of human history? Why the poor married and had children the most? Sure you could contextualise hyperga…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:09 PM
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Oh lol, yeah, I said that men are held to a high standard, but women aren't, so to create healthier relationships women should also be held to a high standard. And yeah, this is something only men can fix, that's why it was aimed directly at men as it's a behaviour that can only come from men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:03 PM
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But isn’t it on men to hold uphold a standard Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:52 PM
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...yeah that's what the post is literally saying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:52 PM
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Meaning when restrictions are placed on women’s choice, it made dating better for men. You said the quiet part out loud. Nope, just means women had to put ridiculous amounts of effort to attract the man she desires, that's literally it. If most women didn't, they would only attract the men of their level. And no, hypergamy is relatively new as only the poor reproduced the most back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:51 PM
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Cause it's not an exhaustive list to begin with. Are you saying pop culture/social media DOESNT put unrealistic expectations? Yes, on men, not on women How about in comparison to pornography setting expectations on woman’s sexual performance Except it doesn't, it's an industry dominated BY women and Infact places a higher expectation on men than women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:43 PM
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Idk man, a small subset of examples don't represent social media and pop music.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:46 PM
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Being a provider is more difficult now than ever Agreed, but women are still entitled to the point of wanting it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:15 PM
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The core principles of the red pill are absolutely true, the problem is everything else gets way too personal when it's subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:50 PM
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Ironically enough, back before the red pill was a thing and misogyny was a trending social issue, I was talking to this girl, I saw her platonically, but I was basically spewing red pill and "misogynistic" comments to her...we dated for almost 2yrs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:34 PM
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Yet women are the ones who are seeking provider men and going online and spewing man hate? Men are FAR better at all of the things you just mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:31 PM
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Yet women are the ones who are seeking provider men and going online and spewing man hate? Men are FAR better at all of the things you just mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:31 PM
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Absolutely we do, y'all love talking about yourselves, like all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:56 AM
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Cause y'all don't want to nor care to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:53 AM
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Bruh, only 1 in 4 women are overweight, what are you on? Clearly you're projecting here, the reality is women aren't judged based on a high standard, and if women actually went after a man in their own league, they'd all be in a relationship. The reality is men DO go after a woman in their league, all the time, it's women who don't, then y'all hold your experience with high value men over everyone elses head. Cause the truth, most women know that they're going after men that are scarce but don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:47 AM
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since weak, dumb, uninteresting women can do it In what world? Men just don't hold most women to obscene standards. We won’t, because we really don’t think being a successful or decent person is difficult Success is difficult, what are you on? And being a decent person isn't your only standard, is it? Y'all will do anything but take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:42 AM
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Absolutely agree on this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:38 AM
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By your logic, everyone should only date someone who makes the same money as them? Take that up with women. Tell me you don't know anything about men without telling me, I haven't seen any man with standards like that, except perhaps the Uber wealthy and attractive men, mens standards of beauty are super low, so long as she's not plus size and has a sweet demeanor with an all natural look, most men with wife her. Problem is those women with no career prospects wants a man of the highest calibre.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:40 PM
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Women will do anything for a hot guy ...shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:37 AM
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By that logic you will never be stable enough for a relationship, because there's no working class or middle class tax bracket that gets off easy. And besides, if men fear gold diggers, that's the dumbest suggestion you can recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:19 AM
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Haha, glad to have been of some help 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:41 PM
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If only women understood this better
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:39 PM
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That is not gonna end well for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:24 PM
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That approach has never worked though, ever I'm talking about modern feminism btw Yeah I know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:17 PM
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Yes, but at the same time, shunning men does not manifest positively, it's why men will continue going hard right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:08 PM
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I think if women just came out and admitted that the standards are way too high for men, understood that and even displayed some remorse, without hating on men, we'll come a long way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:00 PM
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So you're in a LTR? What are you doing here? This post isn't for you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:53 PM
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You're not in too much demand for men you want, the men y'all desire are too scarce, those mens standards are high enough that there's still plenty women for them to choose from and even more to play with. Listen, this struggle is a you problem, it's a dynamic women created, you either accept the terms of your game and shut it or hypnotize yourselves to reduce your standards, either way don't bring this whining attitude to men, it's annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:42 PM
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Look, a traditional relationship of the man having to provide, earn more etc is already a lot of responsibility, far more than a traditional woman's role. Most men are not gonna have it all, to meet those standards is a ridiculously high burden, most men would crumble under the weight of it, no ones saying you should carry a man, but as the wife/husband, partners support one another and push to develop one another, there's nothing wrong with helping him improve on his weaknesses, that's what a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:11 PM
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Exactly, but that's the thing, the men in demand are soo few they're already getting optimal affection and sexual activity from women anyway, so if they are open to LTR, it will be based on her providing something more, of soo much more value
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:08 PM
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That's why women shouldn't complain that the few men who meet their standard don't want LTR, they are in demand, most women make the mistake of knowing how very few the men of their standards exist and then they whine about it, like you knew how this game works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:06 PM
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It doesn't help to complain that there's no men who want LTR knowing that there's not enough supply of the demand for the kind of men you want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:04 PM
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Problem is, in capitalism the threshold and the standard constantly increases that by late stage capitalism no one man is good enough to be a partner anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:38 PM
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True, men who have options tend to be the most picky, why wouldn't he be given the fact that women will swarm him regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:35 PM
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No harm in that, no reason why people should stick to specific roles in non-traditional times
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:22 AM
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Obviously, I'm not saying that she'll take charge, I'm just saying that she'll atleast try to steer him towards a direction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:02 AM
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Whether a woman is attractive or not, she's still put on a higher pedestal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:02 AM
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I've personally found that if the man is attractive, and she sees potential in him, she usually helps with his development so she can see a LTR with him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:43 AM
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It's true, men that women desire the most won't want LTR, why would they? Most men want LTR, but most women aren't attracted to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:19 AM
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Men want LTR, just not the men you're into
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:16 PM
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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/no-soldiers-in-combat-zone-claims-kamala-harris-gets-ripped-by-us-soldiers-where-are-we-then/ar-AA1qBteO?ocid=BingNewsVerp Just so you know the US troops stationed in foreign nations came out against her. Shitting on your old boss is a very bad look in the military. Cause I doubt they thought he would come into power
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:51 PM
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The same way celebs vouched for her? Money, endorsements etc...not to mention trump's already done more to reduce global tension before going into office
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:37 PM
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There has never been a moment in the history of society where everyone had equal rights. Most women support and uphold the patriarchy anyway, so your great great grandmother would have never identified as a second class citizen. Furthermore, most men AND women opposed womens right to vote to begin with. Last but not least, working class men got their rights after wealthy men, black men got it after white women...it turns out the progress of rights is a broad spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:35 PM
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would never allow those legislations to pass and neither would most men What are they gonna do? If history has shown anything it's that if men as a collective want something, they'll get it. You say most men, but most men are becoming more right wing. If power to women infringes on men's standing, they'll oppose it. So most men would also be against legislation that restricts women’s rights Not unless womens rights greatly disadvantages men, people care about their own benefits above all else. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:33 PM
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Like I said, it's fear mongering, Trump has already shown more plans for global stability than Harris: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-reviews-plan-halt-us-military-aid-ukraine-unless-it-negotiates-peace-with-2024-06-25/?utm_source=reddit.com https://www.ft.com/content/44493fa9-d8f2-4407-94ac-a072c1976ca2 Which means you’re just making up excuses to justify your contribution to putting a rapist in power. Y'all are egotistical narcissists, if it's not your way, it's the highway, all you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:30 PM
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No it's not, it's happened to multiple countries and is happening right now to other countries. I personally don't care, it doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:36 PM
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Yet Putin asked to sit with Trump and Zelensky to put together a peace plan, he hasn't budged with the war this whole time, the second trump won he wants to talk about ending the war. Oh wow, 1 generals hysteria, compared to the dozen democrat party members confirming her war obsession? Y'all are absolutely insane, I already told you, between a rapist and a war monger, people will choose the rapist, not because they love rape, but because they value their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:07 PM
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I mean he's already creating relations with South Korea, North Korea, Ukraine, Russia, Israel and Palestine. He had no new wars during his time in office the first time, and has already advocated for America to pull out of the middle east and stop funding the existing wars. In comparison, Harris has openly supported funding the existing wars, picking a side and wanting to get America physically involved. The whole campaign everyone highlighted how she'll start WW3 with her policies, tensions wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:36 PM
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Not like politics represents a moral spectrum in the first place. If putting a rapist in power means we avoid the end of the world, I think it's a no brainer people will chose to vote for that rapist, even if they hate him with a burning passion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:09 PM
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Between a rapist and a war monger, I'd say you're screwed the same no matter which side you take. Best you can do now is choose the side that most benefits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:44 PM
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I mean, people are struggling to date someone even within their own political belief system, so why cut your prospects even short by rejecting half the country
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:41 PM
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You define your great great grandmother as a slave? Listen, I'm just giving a history lesson, not talking about my beliefs. Enough angry men in society, leads to aggressive outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:25 PM
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Reposting "man bad" memes, verbally berating men in a joking manner, complaining about "where are all good men"? About 2/3 of women I know do that once in a while, some post that stuff daily in their feed, some just once a week or so, when their date doesn't meet expectations I guess. These are the same women who throw a fit when men do the same about women...and then it indicates that they use humour to mask genuine misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:18 PM
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Not every movement was fought against violently, some were easier, the fight against Italian racism took a movie, that's all. Ah, so you're saying men didn't like women for 100k+yrs? That would be a statement. Except they didn't, rights were granted at different paces. I mean the first wave of feminists were labelled Nazis for a reason. If you want taxes to increase, you'd support your entire population's right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:13 PM
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Not really, most were against it, hell most women were too. But, there's money to be made from caving into their demands, so they did. All about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:03 PM
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I don't know if you're being serious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:28 AM
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Ironically a lot of countries did exactly that and more. But no, simpler method is to introduce new legislations to restrict their rights, piling them and strengthening them with each passing year until they accumulate, or simply undo any policy or legislation that gave them their rights. Or, reform the education system to condition everyone since childhood to uphold different values that goes against womens rights...there's a lot of ways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:27 AM
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This is a bell that can’t be unrung. Yet it's happening all around the world. Women rely on MEN to get their rights. pretending to be interested in you. I was talking about society, society conditioning women to accept a role they internalise and pass down, essentially undoing women's 'progress' and reverting society and it's culture back to the old days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:21 AM
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There's also a reason why men ALLOWED women to rise up against it and start feminism, should they change their minds, they can always undo it...seems like it's already started
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:13 AM
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I mean there's a reason humans ran society the way they did for 100k+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:03 AM
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Yeah, but when you have women not from those countries talk about losing their personhood, it trivialises women in countries actually struggling from their limited personhood
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:59 PM
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Oh I know they're disproportionately more sexually active
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:56 PM
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Who is doing this? Which women and where? Are you intentionally being tone deaf? So for the better half of the last 3yrs men weren't being shitted on? Y'all literally created a man v bear thing and are now trying to push for 4b. Do you have an example? I listed some, but here's a few more, body shaming men, invalidating mens mental health, blaming all of mens hardships on the patriarchy whilst simultaneously claiming men are privileged from the patriarchy, blaming men for their own suicide, prac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:08 PM
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Which men are complaining trump won? Most men are giving an insight into why trump won
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:03 PM
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Wrong, dems are told to lure men into their ideologies using women as the focus, it doesn't help men in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:02 PM
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Finish your homework
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:59 AM
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You're the one who bought up toys and your bf 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:53 AM
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🤔 Clearly he's failing if you're looking for a toy in me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:50 AM
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Whatever gets you off 🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:48 AM
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You mean you need your toy 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:45 AM
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You wouldn't respond back if you weren't looking to play 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:43 AM
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Why are you still here? Maybe you're the one clinging to me and you're just projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:40 AM
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So then don't complain when it costs you the election
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:39 AM
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For starters, stop attacking men at every opportunity? Stop being passive aggressive, generalising and hypocritical towards men? Ask men for their support, cater to men via offering support for their issues etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:38 AM
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You mean attack men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:36 AM
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Men who are dems are essentially pick me's, they just add fuel to the fire and use the same talking points as radical misandrists-- they don't represent the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:23 AM
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Doesn't matter, people are gonna atleast see him acknowledge what everyones already thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:21 AM
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I mean his entire campaign talked about every issue men have been preaching, he even addressed the gender wars, I mean that alone got a lot of people on board
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:44 AM
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This post is the perfect representation of what progressives are doing wrong, proving exactly why trump won; the icing on top? Instead of changing your views, narratives and approach, y'all are doubling down instead, as if you couldn't be beating a dead horse anymore than you did before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:43 AM
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Created a whole era of entitled self centered people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:40 AM
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Not like the notification is compelling you to reply back to me, or are you longing for me so much so that this is the perfect excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:39 AM
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I'm still on your mind? Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:58 AM
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If that's not an entitled response, I don't know what is. Tell me, if I find a woman who wants to be a mother, and we're both happy to be parents, upon getting her pregnant, she now wants an abortion, would that prove my point to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:47 PM
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Oh I agree with you, I think women can't relate to something they haven't experienced personally, it's why they can't see beyond their own perspective, can't put themselves in others shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:11 PM
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Given the absence of logic in your arguments, I'll stick to my conclusion sweet cheeks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:09 PM
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Yes would be the only logical answer, casual sex is not beneficial for society and options being centered around your community and social circle is far healthier than online dating, since you have a stronger and a more useful ability to vet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:03 AM
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Trying to promote feminism by validating misandry, is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:09 PM
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Are you done with your emotional rant? By your logic, a woman who chose to be a mother does not care about a womans health risk? And if a man cares, he would oppose to her conceiving a child? That's why in a discussion about the CHOICE to be a parent, we don't discuss the topic of risks, otherwise no one would have a choice to be a parent, man or woman, we're not talking about condoms, risks or abortions, we're talking about the freedom to CHOOSE to be a parent. Clearly this whole thread has gon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:07 PM
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🤦‍♂️ my god, I've never seen tone deaf in a person this bad, a whole rant just to miss the whole point of the argument. We just established that the risk is NOT a factor here, since it doesn't abstain every woman from being a mother. We're talking about the CHOICE to be a parent, a woman has the choice to be a mother, a man does not have the choice to be a father. If she doesn't want the child, but he does, he doesn't get a say, if she wants the child but he doesn't, he still does not get a say.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:41 PM
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Quite the opposite, it's more likely to increase the rate of healthy marriages, low pre-marital sexual history and pregnancy as a result of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:15 PM
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But let’s say you want the kid and she doesn’t. Then what? She’ll be the one that’s pregnant, uncomfortable and risking her life. Yet if she chose to birth the child, she'd still go through the discomfort and risk-- that's why it's not a factor in this discussion cause the risk does not sway all women's decisions. Men are the only ones who don't get a say, THATS the difference, men do not have the choice to be a father. It's a freedom men will never have. So yes the decision ultimately IS the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:14 PM
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As if your comment couldn't prove this post enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:20 PM
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Not really, most men aren't going around impregnating women, and sex life is far lower to warrant such a risk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:50 PM
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We're talking about the ones wanting to boycott it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:49 PM
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Not really, the women I've been with were more conservative anyway, centre right, and I've always used protection. Conservative women aren't the ones going 4B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:48 PM
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From the governments perspective, access to sex has been low for some time now, yet it was at its highest during more conservative times-- so naturally they'd conclude that sex is low due to women having a lot of access to sex as a result of low consequence. When Project 2025 was trending, members of Congress were citing the exact same thing about low birth rates and it's correlation to abortion. So the conclusion was to reduce access to abortion, reducing sexual freedoms, so people crave intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:47 PM
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Every single one of those cases is a detrimental case that involved health issues, even by trumps own ruling these women should have gotten the healthcare they needed-- I don't know what that has anything to do with trump, since these cases aren't in line with his policy. Again, it's upto the states, but by law there should not have been any obstacle in the way, and it seems like it's purely medical negligence. Just so you know, roe v wade was overturned cause of long term abortions, in which fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:03 PM
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😂 holding on a string
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:56 PM
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Any movement that vilifies men will not do well, I mean it's pretty much common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:42 PM
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I mean it takes 2 to make a child and be parents, the point is the decision on whether or not a man should, could or can be a father is upto the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:40 PM
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How are you not keeping up with your own comment? The 3 exemptions, he used that to justify why he is in support of overturning roe v wade. Y'all are stretching here with Ifs and buts, the fact is, detrimental abortions are not under any threat, just late term abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:31 PM
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Yeah we really don't, most men are complaining about the hypocrisy of having patriarchal standards still imposed on us, and we certainly have 0 say in child bearing, and if you haven't noticed men don't have easy access to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:02 AM
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His campaign literally used that as one of the justifications against roe v wade, it would be extremely unusual and unlikely that the people he appoints into those positions won't share the same ideals
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:00 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but trump himself came out and said that he supports the 3 exemptions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:56 AM
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If millions of more men cared about abortions, they would have won. But they don't date most men and take turns dating the same guys. This!! The irony that they keep digging themselves into 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:55 AM
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As far as I'm aware it's not outright banned, it's just regulated, late term abortions are the only ones they're against, economically it wouldn't make sense for them to outright ban it either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:25 PM
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That's mass hysteria, what rights is he taking away?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:02 PM
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My first thought was how are they gonna boycott sex from men they're not having sex with in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:01 PM
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Cause my statement was in response to someone bringing up rape for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:41 PM
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Honestly, it depends on each man, I have a high libido, so once a week won't cut it for me, it has to be 14x a week at the very least. I'm a firm advocate of sexual compatibility between partners, oftentimes no one talks about sexual deal breakers, so they partner up with someone they're sexually incompatible with, then the relationship struggles, it should be an important deal breaker you discuss before getting with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:40 PM
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Your problem is you're trying to separate the conclusion of his life experience, there was no other separate statement, just a concluding statement of his life experience. When you separate them, you're creating your own narrative, a make believe argument he didn't make, just you. Most women I’ve been with. "I've been with" He's reiterated it many many times, that he's purely speaking about his experience and his alone, he doesn't conclude it with a generalized statement, he concludes it with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:26 PM
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Most women I’ve been with. "I've been with" It's not most women, just most women he's been with, it's very clearly written out. There is no contradiction if you read the comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:21 PM
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Not win, more like stops any discussion they're losing, it's always such a stretch that it loses it's meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:20 PM
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I was replying to your statement. If the woman gets raped she loses her agency. No one said anything about that though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:18 PM
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No I didn't, you did
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:36 PM
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There is no argument or any logic to be debated when it comes to someones personal anecdote, it's his experience he's talking about: I’ve had a pretty extensive history. Most women I’ve been with urged me NOT to use protection. I still did, but Women determine this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:35 PM
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You’re still going dude What are you still doing here? I’m sorry rape exists but you think that’s “a stretch” guy that decided to tell me about a condom filled with cum that some woman turned inside out Yes, it's unfortunate men are raped by women, it's unfortunate that cases like that happen, never denied that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:32 PM
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I’ve had a pretty extensive history. Most women I’ve been with urged me NOT to use protection. I still did, but Women determine this. It's less ambiguous and clear cut as day when you don't skip the rest of the paragraph and focus on the last few words of a sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:30 PM
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Who gives a fuck You did Look at you This isn't the place to flirt, take it to the dms
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:27 PM
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He literally did, did y'all even read his comment, he gave his anecdote and his experience, laid it out clear as day. Y'all need to stay off the internet when it's that time of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:25 PM
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The absurd thing is, instead of reading the comment and understanding that he was talking about condoms and the pill. Your immediate conclusion was "rape". That's brain rot if I've ever seen one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:16 PM
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I fully acknowledge men can be raped by women. Never denied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:15 PM
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Except he did, he used an anecdote of his own experience and clarified in the comments. Maybe y'all need to read everything before you start replying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:12 PM
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I'm not the one stretching here and laughing at a real case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:10 PM
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You need to grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:09 PM
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The guy being raped? Cause he was talking about the pills and condom: I’ve had a pretty extensive history. Most women I’ve been with urged me NOT to use protection. I still did, but Women determine this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:09 PM
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It was literally trending everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:07 PM
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The stretch was absolutely mad, came out of nowhere too 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:05 PM
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You see that case of that woman using a filled condom to inseminate herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:04 PM
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He literally just no kid happens that a woman doesn’t want He's talking about a woman not wanting a condom or not being on the pill, to y'all women wanting a child=rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:04 PM
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No ones talking about rape here, why are you bringing up rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:02 PM
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Yeah but what does that have to do with his comment? He didnt even go near the topic of rape
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:01 PM
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But rape? That's where you went? He didn't even come close to that level of stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:58 PM
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It happens, if a woman wants a child, she'll make it happen in some way, regardless of what a man does or does not do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:57 PM
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Oh so rape doesn't exist? That was the mightiest stretch I've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:56 PM
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Obviously, physically we wont die without it, but mentally and emotionally it's a need, in a relationship it's an absolute need
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:26 PM
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I think in recent years that's been the running criticism with modern feminism, most women are selective in their activism, seeking equality for this but not that, or seeking to squash gender roles but only specific ones that disadvantage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:29 PM
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You mean like not make up hypothetical situations in which data proved something I wish were true and then preemptively decided how the people the data described would respond? Yeah, I think I could handle that. News flash honey, this whole thread is about hypotheticals and interpreting surveys and data to come to a conclusion of a hypothetical scenario, I don't know what you were expecting here. If you aren't sleeping with these women, why would that be a problem? Can't you just ignore it? (Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:47 PM
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But no doubt men would go off about how women are entitled hoes who only sleep with the top 20/10/5/.05% of men and that’s why so many women are having sex and so many men aren’t Why would that be a problem? You simply can't ignore it? But on top of that, it's just disgusting and unhygienic. Even so, you're acting like women aren't complaining about the same situation, where they come online and whine about how the men they are attracted to don't want them like that, it's already the same situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:51 PM
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There's a reason we're all debating surveys here, the hypothetical is about those surveys, or did you just want to stir drama?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:47 PM
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I mean you just confirmed it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:12 AM
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Marriage is a huge investment with a major risk for men of the current generation, especially given the cost of living and financial struggles of today. So there's no real upside to marriage when it comes to financial safety and security. Let's be honest, most women want a wedding, not a marriage. The second they get married and have to live upto to the responsibilities of being a spouse, they can't do it. The reality of the situation sets in, so the marriage fails, and the only one who took the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:16 AM
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I mean let's be honest even if some miracle study was published showing definitive proof that women are sexually active at a far higher rate than men, y'all would dismiss it or try conjure some validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:11 AM
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Health record? I mean the sex related health issues speak for themselves, no one can lie about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:09 AM
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It is consistently falling since 1960, in fact, it fell the hardest post the baby boom, the recent decrease is mild. You understand that capitalism did not start in 1960, right? The global average has been decreasing: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/charted-rapid-decline-of-global-birth-rates/ "The overall U.S. birth rate peaked most recently in the Baby Boom years, reaching 122.7 in 1957, nearly double today’s rate. The birth rate sagged through the mid-1970s but stabilized at 65-70 births …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:05 AM
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Ah the old capitalism bad nonsense. Capitalism brought us to the prosperity we have today. Except it didn't, capitalism had to be extremely regulated to even make life livable for most people, or did you forget early industrial capitalism causing the deaths of millions via mass poverty? Birth rates were falling long before the inversion of the pyramid. No it wasn't, it was actually balanced, not super high or low, perfectly sustainable. if parents stop being able to support children, society wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:46 PM
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This couldn't be the furthest thing from the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:07 AM
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You can get a vasectomy if you don’t wish to impregnate someone. A surgical procedure that's painful? No thanks. You can wear a condom Still carries the risk I suggest you double or triple down on birth control methods. None of that matters when it doesn't work and she gets pregnant, then it's essentially her entitlement in control
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:55 AM
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You personally want to cum into any random pussy and expect no pregnancies Even with a condom I would expect the risk of pregnancy, that risk always exists. You can either keep hoping for miracles or take responsibility Or maybe she can take as much of the responsibility? It's a 2 way street. You sound so childish right now. You're the one absolving the woman of ALL responsibility here, you're the childish one here. Take a pill or get an abortion, don't be soo entitled to raise a child as a sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:52 AM
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I don’t see financial abortion happening any time soon since the government prefers the parents to pay for their own children. Except the government knows that citizens are getting poorer and poorer which stagnates economic growth in the long run, they'll turn the blind eye to certain finance related laws if it doesn't affect the economy much. There are already so many dead beat parents already so it’s already basically legal anyways because I rarely see dead beat parents being arrested You can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:50 AM
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If that isn't the most 1 sided biased take I've ever seen, hate to break it to you but pregnancy can occur even when you've taken all the measures. But you know what actually works the best? Birth control pills, why isn't she taking it? Where is her accountability? Why is she being soo entitled as to risk it? YOU sound entitled, absolving the woman of all accountability, responsibility AND consequence Better yet, what brain dead entitled woman would choose to be a single parent when she can't af…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:45 AM
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I don't see what this has to do with paper abortions. Capitalism, people getting poorer= less likely to pay child support= normalisation of not paying child support. Eventually financial abortion will become an option. Men and women will have kids without the means to properly support them. In fact, the poorer, the more kids, such is the paradox of fertility. I mean birth rates are collapsing everywhere due to how expensive life is now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:41 AM
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Yeah, I agree with everything you just said, that's basically my stance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:39 AM
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In a society where birth rates are collapsing, capitalism needing a steady supply of births? That ain't ever happening. Either abortion will get banned or financial abortion will become a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:38 AM
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Special pleading, there is no repercussion for a woman as she has nothing to lose from getting pregnant, she can abort it or keep it, men don't have any option to walk away, THAT is entitlement. Entitlement is about having a choice, knowing the repercussions and still choosing to do whatever just cause you can. Wear a condom, get a vasectomy or only raw dog someone that you wish to get pregnant and they wish to be pregnant Or maybe she can jump on the pill? Ever considered the possibility that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:36 AM
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That's the same argument pro life supporters can make, and they do, if it's not valid then, it shouldn't be valid here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:12 PM
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I'm saying that a woman should not choose to be a single parent if she can't afford it, if she can't do it without the mans money, that's a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:12 PM
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That's just entitlement, a child should not pay for the mothers entitlement. That explains why abortion is being controlled
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:55 PM
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The populace is getting poorer and poorer, what do you think it will do to society when these men don't have the money to pay anymore? If it becomes normalised, financial abortion will eventually become a recognised right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:43 PM
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you should not be having a child if you intend on being a single parent but can't afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:20 PM
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you should not be having a child if you intend on being a single parent but can't afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:20 PM
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You can thank patriarchal structures for that. So then challenge it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:20 PM
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People are stretching here, if a man does not wish to be a father, and made this clear to the woman, if she gets pregnant by some happen stance and decides not to get an abortion, the responsibility should solely fall on her. He did not choose to become a father, nor wanted it. It's not hard to understand, this is clear cut, you can't be a dead beat if you're thrust into a situation you never wanted. Also, this law will make women think very clearly about being a parent, you should not be having…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:18 PM
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Well I did mention thats what feminism is lacking as well, but yes accountability and responsibility are included as well
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:19 PM
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You know what? Yeah, you're right, equality assumes everyone within a demographic is in the same state in life, when it's not true. Rather than equality, equity would be more appropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:45 PM
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Why not? I just told you that privilege is a nuanced world, it's random, and based on multiple factors, it's fair to seek the social, economic and political equality of all people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:42 PM
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There doesn't need to be a benchmark for who, cause that assumes that theres an all powerful demographic that possesses every privilege conceivable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:38 PM
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No it doesn't, it simply advocates for the absolute equality of all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:35 PM
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What do you mean? I thought you wanted equality between the sexes? Everyone wants the same level of privileges, rights, responsibility and accountability, that's just common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:33 PM
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It did
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:23 PM
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Humanism, that's your answer. feminism stopped getting support when it really became about putting men down, elevating women above them, promoting gendered bias, gynocentrism, man hatred and hypocrisy. All the whole claiming to fight for equality, simultaneously rejecting any responsibility to give men any support for their struggles. But with humanism, you actually get the opportunity to fight for equality because it's not centered around 1 sex, rather both, so it's easier to call out double st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:23 PM
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Netflix
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:21 AM
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Confidence in the dating realm, not in your everyday life. I already highlighted it, most likely to be a womanizer, fboy, devoid of inhibitions, less likely to empathize with people, quick to make bonds with other women, even in a dating situation, vain, narcissistic etc etc Also worth noting, introverts tend to be overthinkers, because they take into account other people's sensitivities and sensibilities, which is the benchmark for empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:52 PM
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That's exactly why women tend to fall for serial womanizers and fboys, why even psychopaths have fan clubs. Most men overthink themselves, it keeps them introverted, to not have that weakness a certain sense of inhibition must be absent. Psychopaths don't have that issue, and fboys/womanizers are way too vain/narcissistic to ever think the world doesn't revolve around them, so they don't have that inhibition as a result
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:49 AM
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Remember the tinder swindler documentary? Women absolutely use the profile to determine a man's value, heck it's like a well known pick up method
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:45 AM
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I was asking for your definition of a good guy, not what a good guy isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:42 AM
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But some introverts are serial killers Most serial killers were womanizers, loved by their community, psychopaths are very good with people. Confidence as described in the dating realm is extroversion Confidence inherently is a red flag, but in dating its seen as attractive, even though it symbolises a history of flirting and attracting women, it's bad for monogamy. Women really do like bad men or extroverted traits are seen as a marker for good in the dating realm It's not seen as good in the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:22 AM
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So what is a good guy to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:15 AM
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Good more so ends up meaning extrovert Extroverts are the players, womanizers, fboys-- you'd think by now y'all would understand the difference between the green flags and the red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:13 AM
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If that was true, every woman would get married if they wanted to online dating. No, because in consumerism, premium products are in low supply, all women want premium products (high value man); there's just not enough of them. If that were true, why do the vast majority of women swear off online dating? You think they would be there in mass, instead of 1 out of 10. Minus the scams, bots, onlyfans, gals who go on them to see if the guy she's dating is on them, etc Here's the thing, most womens c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:09 AM
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That's not true, men get overwhelmingly discarded, women don't, they're just competing for the handful, who they're also all fighting for. Shopping is consumerism, premium products (high value man) are in low supply, not everyone gets one. That's all women are struggling with. For men, dating is quite literally a job application, men bulk swipe, their profiles (CV) had to be optimal enough to get an interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:03 AM
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If you're just more attracted to virgins than not-virgins, it's not hypocrisy Even if the person who prefers a virgin is not a virgin themselves? So the question now is, is there no such thing as a line to you? A point where you'll say that person A cannot have a certain attraction because they don't possess the standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:11 PM
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So how do you draw the line between acceptable and hypocrisy? The OP gave the example of virginity, yet that would be hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:24 PM
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History has repeatedly proven that you don't want the men in your society to be angry in any way, and I think with left leaning politics it's just absolute hatred of all men, which festers more anger amongst men. You dont want the men in your society to be angry, it will cause problems in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:58 AM
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Option 4 is likely to happen, if enough men turn right wing, they can impose strict patriarchal systems in place to restrict womens rights and freedoms-- creating conservative societies, it's happened in the past with religious revolutions across different nations. None of the other options are possible, for Option 1 society stagnates, birth rates hit close to 0, so the economy will rely on mass migration from developing nations to stabilise, this will naturally turn society conservative since d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:05 AM
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I can do as I please tiny little boy You don't want me disproving that again dont be a cowardly pussy, which you clearly are. Be a real man and stand behind what you said. Show her this entire thread from top to bottom and let her read fully what you said. unless you’re scared she’ll dump you, show it to her and be a man. Geez, definitely touched a nerve, mind your language young lady, you'll break your fingers with this much rage at this rate. Not only did I share her the link, she watched the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:58 PM
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Lol projecting your hysterical emotions on me again, you’re the only one bitching like a petulant child yourself. I’m child free! You're not helping your case here, I take it you're a cat or dog lady, you sound like it, I'm sensing a lot of bitterness in you, a man break your heart? Anyways do message me if you need advise on how to be an adult. birth control fails a LOT so good luck 😂 That's why there's condoms, if that's not available I pull out, but under no condition will she intend to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:55 PM
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Why are you double commenting? Just edit your original comment. See, most women I've spoken to, including her, all agree on this, it turns out it's only a fringe minority like yourself who hold this stance
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:43 PM
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I could just see your tears from behind the screen, don't you have your baby daddy to rant to for your monthly child support? Or did he miss out this month? No you see, I'm with a grown mature woman, a sane human who doesn't practice entrapment, we communicate, I know it's alien to you, but it is possible to tell your partner if you're on the pill or if they should strap up. Don't hurt your fingers rage typing, just retire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:41 PM
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One of us is triggered and immoral, deeply, and its not me 😂😂 That sounds like cope, you don't have to cry, I'm not your baby daddy. for future reference, continue being an incel and you’ll never have to worry about getting someone pregnant I'll just disclose that with my situationship, but just to rub it in, I won't pull out tonight, a tribute to you. If you did, you’d still be 100% responsible for that baby no matter how much winging you do about it. It's a good thing not all women are psychos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:33 PM
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No but it’ll be more likely if they’re turned on by him and his larger dick. Yet there's no statistic to prove that, not to mention it will only validate physical standards, not material standards. Large dick and beauty are not synonymous They get literally nothing out of an experience by sleeping with someone they dont find attractive According to you, a large dick would do, not necessarily beauty. But also you're making a false equivocation, that attractive men=climaxing. That would still be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:30 PM
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Clearly you're triggered, it's not my fault you're tone deaf about current politics or morals. For future references, just keep your legs closed instead of crying about men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:18 PM
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Because he can still orgasm with them You're saying women will 100% orgasm with men they find attractive? Cause otherwise it would be just as much a gamble. If those repulsive women also left him unsatisfied he wouldnt do it No, he still would, he'd just rely on imagination to finish
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:17 PM
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Yikes, clearly I touched a nerve, which means I read you right. If you create a baby, you’re 100% obligated to provide for it if its born, no matter how much you whine or cry or want to dodge the responsibility Yes, therefore the mother is solely responsible for providing for the child, I'm glad we agree on that, if she can't, she can always get an abortion, or alternatively if you believe in that so religiously, we ban abortion altogether. Logic, law, common sense, and biology all disagree with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:01 PM
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Yes, but not one of that explains why he'd still be horny enough to do a woman he finds utterly repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:54 PM
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Now it's obvious you're rage bait coping, I'm guessing you f*cked up, had sex out of wedlock, got pregnant, chose to have a child but can't make ends meet now. Potential to make a child is not the same as WANTING to make a child, one is a POTENTIAL consequence and one is a CHOICE. No one is having sex on the daily with the intention to have a child. This Is why abortion is being debated on the daily, y'all talk about choice selectively a choice for her body is NOT the same as the choice for his …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:53 PM
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YES literally every act of PIV sex will potentially make babies. ALL adults know this. that is the choice they make. Potential to make a child is not the same as WANTING to make a child, one is a POTENTIAL consequence and one is a CHOICE. No one is having sex on the daily with the intention to have a child. The uterus owner gets the final choices on what happens with her own body. Women know this. Men know this. Is that why abortion is being debated on the daily? And if so, a choice for her body…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:30 PM
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We're not talking about orgasm's, we're talking about sexual urges. A man 100% orgasms when he masturbates, but would still do a tree, a woman will not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:08 PM
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And her wallet wasn’t involved either. Yes so neither should have control over eachothers wallets. Don’t have sex if you have sperm and you’re not prepared to have a baby. Don't have sex if you don't intend to abort the baby nor have the means to raise the child on your own, keep your legs closed and get your money up first. Take responsibility for your dick. Take responsibility for your own womb first Take responsibility for your decision to have sex. Right back at you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:07 PM
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its not against his will unless he was raped That opens up a whole world of problems for you, cause deceitful conception would count as rape. he ACTIVELY chose to make the baby. He actively is responsible for it if it comes to life. Except he DIDN'T, or are you saying every act of sex is an attempt to make a baby? dont have sex with women if you aren’t 100% comfortable with the choice they are going to make on their own uterus. because we all know WAY before the sex happens, that only the uterus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:05 PM
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It still stands, the ones who don't have options will be laying with men who don't have options
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:32 PM
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That's called hypocrisy. They BOTH chose to engage in sex, by your logic the consequence of sex is no one's right to do with whatever they want. If you get to reject his decision you ARE controlling his life, therefore his body. you dont get to also control a woman’s body because you regret your own choice. that’s misogyny That's called hypocrisy, she made the choice to have the child against his will, that doesn't give her the right to his wallet, you don't get to control him like that, that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:43 PM
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Perfectly said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:39 PM
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By that logic since his wallet wasn't involved in making the baby, she has no right to it. If his money is not in her name, she forfeits any right to it, since his money is not part of her body, she gets no say. Don't chose to be a single mother if you can't financially provide for the child. Take responsibility for your own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:39 PM
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Do she take the sperm without his consent? Yes she did You sound really MaTuRe In the grown up world the person takes responsibility for their choices, if she chose to have the child then it's her responsibility entirely, not his. Once you put your genetic material in someone else’s body, it’s no longer an issue of your body. So you're against abortion then, since pro-lifers make the same argument. Pregnancy is always a risk of sex. Deal with that reality. So abortion should be banned according …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:18 PM
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No, she made a choice with HIS body, his sperm is still foreign in her body. she made the choice to take that sperm into her body, so he's wavered of all responsibility. Regardless, his money is independent from her body, therefore she gets no say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:06 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:00 PM
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By that logic she isn't entitled to half his wages since she doesn't carry nor work for his money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:52 PM
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That's selective reasoning, her body does not give her the right to dictate another man's life, she's a grown woman who made HER choice. Except double homicide exists, in those cases the baby is seen as an independent human, regardless if it's inside her, the same logic, most would argue that she can't decide for a life that can exist independent of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:51 PM
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If that's the case since it's half his DNA, he also has half the claim on her right to get an abortion or not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:49 PM
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You know, anti-abortionists make the same argument, once the egg is fertilised, she loses all say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:43 PM
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If he WANTS to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:40 PM
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Children are expensive and being a single mom is hard enough as it is without financial help, she will have to take an enormous lifestyle hit Then she wouldn't have had the child if the father was against it, have you considered the fact that the father was in favour of the abortion because of the financial struggles? She took that risk and should shoulder it It took 2 people to create the child, it should take 2 people to fund it. Fair is fair. You could have used protection By that logic the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:39 PM
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Just because men do it doesn’t mean women will or should do the same. Men do it cause their sex drive is far higher. There’s no need for women to do that when the men they want are willing to have sex. So you're saying every woman has the man she finds attractive in her life? If that were the case single women would be sexually active in large. Women also masturbate so I’m not sure why you make it sound like partnered sex is the only solution. Thanks for proving my point, for men masturbation is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:19 PM
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If that were true, you would see conventional unattractive women rack up her body count. Yes women have options, but unattractive women are relatively the same as men, if a handful of men are deemed attractive, and most women want them, but those attractive men are selective, that would mean most women would have no choice but to go for unattractive men for casual sex. Essentially the ratio would be largely even, yet it's not, and you even see conventionally attractive men end up doing questiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:14 PM
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Then you would see women doing a tree often. Regardless, men would do a tree and an unattractive woman, they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:08 PM
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Probably to regulate the growth of the species, if women were as horny as men, they'd be screwing a gazillion random men every day, that's not good for the growth of the species, things like inbreeding will become very common, genetic diversity would also reduce greatly, humans need genetic diversity to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:47 PM
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Cause they don't want to understand, having desire for a select few men inherently means their sex drive is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:45 AM
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Except men aren't attracted to every woman they want to sleep with, most men are horny enough to do a freaking tree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:35 AM
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Incel is not a slur I meant it's used as one. Incel being misused by the general population doesn't surprise me when most Americans read at a 6th grade level. Nonetheless, being seen as misogynistic is still seen as better than being a slut. Misogynists are still humans who are humanized. Unlike the historically dehumanized slut I actually agree with 99% of what you said, except for this bit: Misogynists are still humans who are humanized. Unlike the historically dehumanized slut Cause being a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:15 PM
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So they just use emotional slurs like any other circle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:04 PM
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No. You're just deflecting I'm not the one conflating 3 different words into 1 Oh boy, another tedious discussion about how just because they believe 95% of the same bullshit, fuschia pill is actually quite distinct from magenta pill! Nuance must be alien to you, let me guess, all political parties must be the same to you, all faiths must be the same to you. Black and white must be the same to you. Since you can't differentiate an act from an ideology. That "incels" refers to men who use intense…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:49 PM
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No, I'm not a red piller or incel. You would have to ask them why their misogynistic ideology is so closely associated with not having sex. Oh wow, now you're just projecting, it seems like you want to make all those definitions mutual in your make believe world. The two are not mutually exclusive, which is the entire point. Point of what? The fact that y'all don't know the definition of 3 words? 1 being an ideology and the other being a mental state, and the last being a variation of abstinence…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:25 PM
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That seems like a question you should ask incels (or, more accurately, red pillers). That just sounds like something you're making up at this point, even Google disagrees with you, so does the dictionary. What? Yes you do, Tate was literally called King of the Incels. Since when? Literally never, he was at most called a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:15 PM
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Incels are quite specifically referring to men who use intensely misogynistic rhetoric to attack and denigrate women for not giving them the sex So why is it always associated with a man who doesn't attract women? You never see Bryce, Tate or Myron be called incels, cause they still have a history of attracting women. Incel seems to be synonymous with virginity, literally always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:07 PM
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He's not, he made a valid point, when have you ever seen a woman being insulted for being a virgin? Never. When have you seen men be insulated for being a virgin? Almost always. The same principle applies to promiscuity. The sexes are never held to the same standard, it sucks, but it's just the way it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:05 PM
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No ones saying women should have no standards, men are simply saying that women should have REASONABLE standards. Furthermore, a woman having lower standards does not mean she'll be promiscuous, just like a woman having high standards won't be a virgin. There are too many promiscuous women with high standards whilst there are women who aren't promiscuous with low standards. Also, having lower standards is not equivalent to having no standards. A person can have 1 standard, but the benchmark of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:02 PM
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Everyone is throwing around different theories, but I think everyone can agree, no one can ever understand women, not even women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:15 AM
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Women are not hated, all that's hated is women just vilifying men, invalidating their emotions and just downright being condescending-- there has never been any empathy for mens struggles, so what do you think men are gonna do? You can only alienate half the population for soo long. As for TRP, it's woman promoting hypergamy that continues to give TRP community credit for what they preach, if women didn't start rambling online about mens height, beauty and wealth, TRP would have nothing to back …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:38 AM
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No man has said that, but it's not at all wrong to say that women holding standards that eliminate the majority of men from dating, isn't worrisome at the very least. Population collapse is inevitable regardless, but much of society will look for a solution and when they do, it won't be a blame on the men, but the standards women hold. Women won't be hated for it, but there's a high chance that mere exposure effect and cultivation theory will be used to condition womens standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:24 AM
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Never said that either, they can have their standards, but at a point it's not the men's fault nor anything they can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 10:50 AM
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Feminism doesn't say you can't want traditional gender roles for yourself or partners. It says that you can't prescribe them for everybody. Romantic relationships are optional and by mutual consent of the people in them. Having the choice whether to agree to a dynamic or not is the whole point. One of the biggest talking points of feminism is to challenge the patriarchy, if you uphold patriarchal norms, even in your personal or private life, then you support the patriarchy, which goes against fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:17 AM
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I don't think it's a disguise, a quick Google search will tell you that's exactly what the patriarchy is, and a growing number of women are essentially trying to resurrect the 1950s patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:12 AM
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Then maybe men shouldn't look at women as "having baggage" and all that stuff That's not something anyone can control, it's not any man's job to treat a womans trauma, negativity or entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:04 AM
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The main issue is that they just leave all the decision-making up for the guy to parse out and they become super passive to the point that it's like you're just carrying them along like luggage. This stuff is a major turn-off because these sort of women often finds reasons to complain about how they didn't like what you chose. They like to react to things rather than meet me halfway with an opinion and not the wishy-washy, "it's up to you." Perfectly put, these women have zero communication capa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:22 PM
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These are 2 extremes, I want a woman in the middle, something everyone else in the comments have already agreed on, she's soft, kind, understanding and gentle but confident, decisive and stands on business-- she needs to be empathetic but also understanding, i don't want her to be my boss or some child, just a mature responsible woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:20 PM
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When did porn become cheating? When did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:45 PM
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If I grew up super desirable to women, then yeah, I'd be a player, simply cause it's the social conditioning, I'd be praised, looked upto etc. If I became super desirable between 2016-2019, no I would not be a player, cause around then I was far more innocent minded, and I wanted to be moral, believing in love and everything. If I became super desirable now, I'd just be a player, my life experiences upto this point have been painful enough, that my morals don't even matter anymore. So I do belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:38 AM
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Not a great reply from you tbh I did not insult, hate or get personal with you. idk how you thought that comment was for you because contextually it didn’t make sense. Contextually it could have been taken as an argument against anyone of us, especially when you used the male example. But I do apologise, the lack of the daughter being mentioned should have given it away. I've edited my comment, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:58 PM
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Edit: Apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:49 PM
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You think it's JUST as likely that someone would lie Not JUST as likely, but the percentage is still high relative to the percentage of guilty, where it should absolutely be considered as a possibility, especially if you know the person who is accused on a personal level. Definitely no incel biases here 😌 I think we now understand the kind of person you are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:12 PM
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Yes, just like I'd believe my son if he was accused and denied it. It's the same scenario, if the son can be guilty then so can the daughter of lying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:36 AM
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Mostly successful men, and it's still for sex, but more added to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:32 AM
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I definitely don’t despise sexless men. Why would I? What do you think men do with escorts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:17 AM
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Yet you fail to correlate a reason, that just says everything about you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:43 AM
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No, never dated a man, Im straight, but given I'm a man and have male friends, I know the sex far better than you. You gonna answer my question or deflect?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:37 AM
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You ok? You don't sound alright
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:27 PM
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all i had to do was glance at your page. I could say the same about you. but if you think men don’t express through action and words that they settled for their partner and would prefer to be with someone else So men don't love bomb? How many times have we seen women talking about men who were great partners, bringing soo much effort and affection only to just up and leave out of nowhere? It's soo frequent that it's become a whole meme now. And how many times have women repeatedly explained the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:11 PM
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you’re already under the pretense that women suck /men have it so hard. Where did I say that? I simply said women express their emotions more than men. Men bottle up their feelings far more often, we all know this. If a woman settled, she expresses it, men don't. Also, socially, yes men have it harder in life,by a significant margin
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:04 PM
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I have not seen 1 case of women figuring it out by the mens actions, it's always some confession he makes to someone else or he does it himself. By action men always bring the most effort, heck, y'all recognise what love bombing is, men hide their intentions by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:00 PM
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That's what I'm saying, it's not until they hear the confession that they realise they've been settled for. By action they can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:25 PM
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Chosen/picked, easily. How a woman treats you when she picks you Vs when she settles for you is like night and day. It's not like with men, men are good at hiding all that, women aren't. When a woman settles for a man, she looks, sounds and talks cold, her barriers are always up, she never puts any effort into you and everything is transactional for her. She never puts any affection into her communication nor does she go out of her way for you. She never initiates intimacy and she's quick to los…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:20 PM
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We're seeing the birth of a matriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:29 PM
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All of mens struggles would disappear if they understood that women are arguably more superficial and materialistic than men. Men are only lost because no one actually tells men what women value most when seeking a partner, it's always the same regurgitated ideas "be yourself, be nice, be good". That all works once you're already IN the relationship, not before it. When it comes to attracting women, it's looks and money first, both of which women hold to a higher standard than men, which is some…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:27 PM
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It’s called inferring relative information. Why bring it up in context to the previous comment? Because you’re piling on to their “women bad” mentality. It’s not necessarily a neutral take if you’re agreeing with it. That's YOUR interpretation, it's like saying that having cultural or religious standards are bad, they're not good or bad, you make off it what you will, people have standards for whatever reason they do, denying it doesn't help any cause nor does it alleviate a persons dating diffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:31 PM
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Ironically when I spent my teenage years online, I had a more blue pill look on life, more indifferent to women, it wasn't until I started socialising with them more that I started holding a few critical views of women, it also helps having friends who are women, I'm secure and trustworthy enough for them to share their thoughts, feelings and worldviews of others, with me. And bare in mind I never once said women being superficial, materialistic and hedonistic was a positive or a negative, you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:15 PM
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No one said greedy parasites, I said superficial, materialistic and hedonistic. Superficial= Having higher standards for looks Materialistic= Having standards on his money and his material positions. Hedonistic= parties, travelling I never said any of these are positives or negatives, just that women seek a higher quantity of these than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:11 PM
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Saying a man is nice is equivalent to a woman speaking and eating? when it should be equivalent to a woman being nice or good, which is something you work on rather than inherently do. The equivalent standard of a woman eating and speaking would be a man eating and speaking, not him being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:55 PM
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Then, being nice will attract a better quality woman Money first, being nice is not a merit women use, it's right at the bottom, usually a higher quality woman is only available if you have a lot of money, network and status
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:52 PM
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95% of women would rather be with an asshole that spoils them with money, looks handsome, and fucks like a god. And men still don't understand this, since birth we're conditioned to think women are these immaterial angels of sainthood, when in reality women are more materialistic, superficial and hedonistic than men, by a significant margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:50 PM
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“She speaks the same language as you and she eats dinner”. Even when we're using the absolute lowest standard, it's still lower for women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:47 PM
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I always say, there are a lot of asshole men with a lot more success with women than a nice guy or even a good man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:46 PM
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A poor country is not the same as having a high cost of living crisis in a developed country.
/r/MensRights24/09/24 04:31 PM
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The better aspect was that they had a wife to go home to To add to it they had stronger communities, held sway over lords, were never required to fight a lords war, held control over every resource as shared welfare. same cannot be said for women. To the contrary, most women lived the same life as the men, not all of human history was medieval, sure women couldn't vote, but neither could men, cause the system didn't exist. Personal, modern freedoms didn't even exist as concepts, people lived the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:37 PM
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Not as fucked in the same sense, but definitely better in other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:28 PM
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That has always been the case Completely false, in feudal societies you only had lords and peasants, so 99% of men were in the same social class, with the same quality of life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:18 PM
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believed that sex was somewhat "punishment" for women You didn't get it, they weren't saying to punish her with sex, nor did they associate it as a punishment. They're essentially saying that he should downgrade his relationship with Sarah, from something serious to something casual, like a fwb or situationship kind of thing. Essentially to stay with her for consistent sex, his connection with her being solely dependent on the rate of sex they have. Should she stop or reduce the rate of intimacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:58 AM
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Soo true, all of my friends wanted to desperately be in a relationship, once they did, they became miserable a year or 2 later, 3yrs later, they tremble at thought of being in a relationship. The reality is, most men romanticise the idea of a relationship, but those who are or have been in relationships, are far happier single, and they don't go out of their way seeking it either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:33 PM
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Acknowledgement and empathy that men can suffer without any fault of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:28 AM
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Most men would
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:41 PM
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so judge men same way you judge women. Men are the ones who overwhelmingly practice this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:18 PM
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You can criticise a collective, without hating on every individual in that collective. Women do this too, all the time, I'm sure in such a case you're far more understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:19 PM
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This is one of those problems only women can solve...but they don't want to do that either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:20 AM
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It's only a very small minority of men doing that, the only men who have the means to do that on loop
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:49 AM
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So a fringe minority of cases means that only fertile young women should mass migrate? Instead of say vetting the mental state as well as the background record of all migrants? And you wonder why the general populace finds y'all to be creepy perverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:44 PM
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Those who advocate for women only immigration are sick in the head, we know where their heads are, what they're really after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:13 PM
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I call it involuntary polygamy, or INPOL relationships for short. Essentially, a large portion of women are sharing the same men, mostly without knowing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:22 AM
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There's a theory that men of the past didn't have as much mental health issues due to having male only communities from a young age, whether it be philosophy, military or agriculture, men had tight niche communities to give them a belonging. Men today don't have that, because life is mostly isolated for them, there's very little support or belonging to aid them in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:15 PM
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This is basically red pill 101
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:10 PM
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Except the ones who meet the standards obtain the most power when they are in a position of demand. This is basic capitalism, what is most in demand but low in supply has the most power. There was even a written theory by a history major, that for the love of me I can't find, he argued that thousands of years ago, women created the patriarchy as men were dying in droves, the few men in demand were put in a pedestal, leading to generational value of men, resulting in the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:05 AM
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The outcome is inevitable in every way, if women create high dating standards, then they're giving more socio power to men anyway. The patriarchy is inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:56 PM
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What you suggested WAS debt, to not play the game is to avoid debt. No one said anything about passport bros, long distance relationship across the world is a thing you know. For most men, they won't be able to play, but women won't have any right to complain about the few men in the position to play. We know what happens when a man has too many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:53 PM
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Or look for women in a lower tax bracket or marry someone abroad? And your point wouldn't make sense anyway, even if a man fakes it and pays up, how long will he be able to keep it up? She'll figure it out and it will be a brutal wake up call. Men need to know their own worth and value, that's the only way forward, pandering to women will just lead to resentment of them in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:46 PM
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Then don't date them? Set the bar, otherwise you're settling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:36 PM
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This is one of those points the Red Pill isn't wrong about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:35 PM
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For a feminist man, your views are very patriarchal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:34 PM
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Smoker, ex was a smoker, she was incredibly attractive and fun, so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:40 PM
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This entire post is spot on, 100% agree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:35 PM
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You clearly don't know the difference between physical attraction and relationship attraction, when men say this: “don’t be fat, be pleasant, that’s it, we don’t have high standards.” We are specifically talking about physical attraction, and yes, mens physical standards are close to non-existent, for most it's just weight. only time men here really come out and claim to care about personality is when they’re making excuses for pumping and dumping I don't even know how you came to that conclusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:20 PM
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Way to completely invalidate the post, instead of reading the post and thinking on it, you just said it's wrong, the fault is handing out sex too early-- which is not the problem. Why do certain women think men don't care about womens personalities? We absolutely bloody do, if a woman brings no value to a man's life and has no interesting character, it doesn't matter how long you prolong the sex phase, he'll leave, it's that simple. Most men WANT a woman to put some effort into the relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:17 AM
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Traditionally if a woman becomes interested it becomes her turn to then start to show him what she can do for his life. So a lot of women just skip that step, they go out, get wined and dined, then do nothing and move on to the next dog and pony show. They are addicted to the early phase attention. This prevents them from developing relationship skills and also burns them out on a long term relationship because they are so used to the early relationship dopamine hit. Uufff that was perfectly put…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:12 AM
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Couldn't be further from the truth, what do you think men are doing with the height positivity movement? Or even look maxing? Men are absolutely leading the same fight. The difference is, both sides are targeting the other as their primary audience whilst simultaneously enforcing harsh body standards, it's a defeatist scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:48 PM
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it’s women leading the charge, not men. I’m not sure why you expect women to lead the charge on the behalf of men The hypocrisy of this is that you're targeting men as your primary demographic, not other women, you're trying to convince men of your ideals, that's why the primary platforms are male gaze platforms. So obviously men are targeting women as their primary demographic for their body positivity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:46 PM
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My issue is that body positivity seems to be entirely directed at womens weight, and whilst you're fair in how you view men and womens bodies, there are a large demographic of women who have deligated body positivity exclusively to womens bodies, excluding men entirely, that's why men press hard at criticising womens bodies, they see the double standard as permission to target the body positivity movement. If women distributed all the morals of their activism evenly, we'd be living in a world wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:07 AM
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It's the same reason women want to fight patriarchal norms, just not patriarchal norms in a relationship or interpersonal lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:45 AM
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But she became a man for the experiment, she wasn't a biological man was she? She actually acknowledged women to have more privileges than men. There's also another study, I'll share that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:39 PM
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Look up Nora Vincent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:35 PM
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Yes and no, they hate how they underestimated life for men and definitely acknowledge how much more difficult it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:55 PM
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Trans men get seen as women all the time? Nope, but they like their lives as women far better than their lives as men. They usually speak up about better treatment whenever they're seen as men Even though all the stats show the opposite? Women report higher rates of mental illness and loneliness, they are less propped up and prioritised by society even if you feel you get a cold shoulder. I don't know where you pulled that from, but men have a higher rate of mental illness, and men have a higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:28 PM
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They hate it because they keep being seen as women That's completely false, nothing of the sort has been recorded anywhere, the findings we do have, only mention the struggle of isolation, lacking social circles, and the cold shoulder from women as well as society, it's the struggles that come with being a man. Nora Vincents publications are also a great read on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:01 PM
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But you're not in a platform A platform is part of the real world. Yes, dating apps have skewed gender ratios, but they're still the most common way for couples to meet. I'm thankful that's just the US, cause that is just bleak. You're still missing the point, there's a capitalism component to dating, things like demographic ratio, filtering system, app algorithm, they all play a role in your prospects, it's not just about your league
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:38 PM
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While I'm not trans, I would gladly change my gender if given the opportunity I would not recommend anything remotely close, trans men hate transitioning for a reason, there are social privileges to being a woman, that men don't have, and it will make your life a nightmare to live as a man if you're not accustomed to those hardships as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:27 PM
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If you're in a platform where the demographic is not evenly distributed, you're basically screwed, it doesn't matter if you're the most attractive, successful man in the world. Around a couple years ago Henry Cavill was arguing about the difficulty of the dating scene in Hollywood, a man like that was struggling, so imagine everyone else. There's a capitalist component to dating, so it's not as simple as saying your league is who you can pull, your league is who is available for you to pull at b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:18 AM
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Susan was doing soo well until the last 4 bullet points
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:30 AM
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Yes? And? Males always have to work harder to get a mate. That’s the default. You really don't want to go there, if you're preaching following the patriarchal norm, you best be strapped to that kitchen, not lift a finger or raise a voice without his permission, since you want to follow historical "default" Nah they can just share a rich baby daddy. Y’all men better do something these rich men are seriously consolidating all the resources and soon all the women as well. I'm sure you'd love to sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:38 PM
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If he works more outside the home and she works more inside the home they can both have time to relax. In what world? You realise how much more he would have to work to even afford to sustain a whole family? Unless you've been living under a rock, we have a cost of living crisis, stagnant wages and a collapsing economy, for you all to survive on 1 persons wages, you'd need a man from old money, you'd have to eliminate the entirety of the middle class and working class from having families. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:41 AM
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I know, you're against 50/50, right? My comment highlights that 50/50 is the best type of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:27 PM
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This doesn't make sense, the risk is far greater if he's the provider, since you'll financially depend on him alone, if anything were to go wrong, you'll have nothing to fall back on. Also, unless you expect to do all of the child caring and domestic duties, what risk is there? I'm assuming you would expect your man to contribute equally to both, in which case you'd be selective in how you practice 50/50 in a relationship, which would have him carry the bulk of the relationship on his shoulder. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:38 AM
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Implies? By what merit did you come to that conclusion? Are you saying that any feeling not reciprocated is punishment? The Friendzone means nothing more than unrequited love between friends, even continuing a healthy friendship will never change that. I'm seriously questioning how robotic some of you are, can you not conceive of spontaneous emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:02 PM
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And? Are you saying feelings can never form when setting boundaries? You clearly lack the human element here, unless you intend to behave like a robot, even platonic relationships require some level of emotional investment, any moment could trigger feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:59 PM
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I have not seen any man pursue wealthy women, it's practically unheard off, cause it's women who are attracted to wealth, not men, and wealthy women would never be attracted to men who aren't wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:58 AM
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If you were put in it before even being friends with them, that's just a rejection, it's only a Friendzone if you're already friends to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:33 PM
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There is nothing to suggest that, a Friendzone is the act of being put in a position by the "friend", nothing more. You can absolutely describe your friendship with someone as a Friendzone, cause it's not defining your friend, it's merely describing something that's happened. There's a lot of presumptions on your part, you're too hung up on the words, it doesn't affect the dynamic of any relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:09 PM
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What makes you think people don't? Regardless, there's nothing wrong with calling it a Friendzone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:06 PM
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And where did you pull that definition from? You understand that you can want 2 different things, right? Being "stuck" in the Friendzone, as you put it, does not mean you don't value or want the friendship, it just means your feelings aren't reciprocated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:48 PM
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You're overcomplicating it way too much, a Friendzone just means having feelings for someone who sees you as a friend, that's it. Anything else you ranted about is just that, a rant, especially the previous comment, it was random and came out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:05 PM
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"I have this friend. I like her a lot. In fact, I like her so much that if she won't suck my dick, I never want to see her again." You know that's not the definition of the Friendzone, right? Anything that happens after the feelings form has no correlation to the meaning of the word
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:41 AM
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The problem here is that you can develop feelings for someone you see platonically, at any time, feelings aren't something you control, and every friendship carries that risk anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:35 AM
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Your entire argument has no proof, it's less than anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:47 AM
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I highly doubt that given all the relationships we witnessed of the past generations, given how every single person was getting married in their early 20s. The fact that our parents and grandparents generations dread dating and relationships of today speaks volumes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:47 AM
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I highly doubt that given all the relationships we witnessed of the past generations, given how every single person was getting married in their early 20s. The fact that our parents and grandparents generations dread dating and relationships of today speaks volumes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:46 AM
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I don't know how it is in your country, but in my country feminism is seen as a movement for women and women only, men are never to be incorporated into it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:15 PM
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I think you explained perfectly why people keep a distance from feminism, it really is just pure negative pessimism talk and you have a general understanding of the kind of person the feminist would be
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:06 PM
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According to this post, it shouldn't make a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:04 PM
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People look for patterns to everything in life, it gives a sense of control, otherwise you gotta choke it up to unseen forces like fate, cause if dating patterns are truly random, what other explanation is there for your failure? That thought would drive anyone mad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:04 PM
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You're describing purple pill, not blue pill, blue pill is just the other end of the radical spectrum to red pill, most people are in the middle, they hold views that belong to both groups, albeit slightly diluted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:49 AM
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There's 2 stages to this: 1) The hopeful stage: at this stage you're just very hopeful that 1 day someone will come, this stage lasts throughout your youth, going all the way into your late 20s to early 30s. 2) Indifferent stage: Eventually most men will reach this stage, it occurs around your 30s, in this stage you just stop caring, you'll still feel sexual attraction to women, but you no longer crave nor actively pursue a relationship with women, you become indifferent to them. At this point y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:04 AM
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You went on a whole rant to promote anything BUT equality, basically preached tradcon relationships, men macho and lead, women chased and follow, rah 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:16 PM
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Wtf are you talking about. It wasnt about "boundaries". It would be even more weird though. What kind of boundaries do you expect beside the typical ones from two strangers? Please resppnd that one Are you even a real human, how can you read it as such thing. Are you socially inept or something? What kind of a rigid definition of "boundary" do you have? Or do you really expect 2 strangers online to be an open book with eachother? Cause that's what a boundary is, knowing the limits of conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:57 PM
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That's selective reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:26 PM
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No it's not, it's like saying misogynistic advice is good and prudent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:09 PM
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Ok and? Is some part of your analogy meant to represent dick and pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:05 PM
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Find? She doesn't know her own interest? There's no entitlement in trying to establish a boundary, how is he meant to know what topics she's interested in? Bare in mind they don't know eachother, it's a dating app, they're all strangers, his approach was the healthiest approach on a platform like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:52 PM
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I'm with him, he's trying to establish boundaries and she essentially labelled every topic sensitive information.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:07 PM
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In what world? Terms like white knight, simps and performative activism wouldn't exist if it was
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:56 PM
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And y'all praise those men for it, when everyother man criticises them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:57 AM
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He's not talking about you is he? He's addressing this towards men who actively take part in talking about strangers, supporting women in ludicrous situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:18 PM
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That's soo delusional it hurts, it don't deter anything, it never has, humans will do bad things regardless of the punishment, it's just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:37 PM
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stops happening. Right, just like capital punishment and life sentences stopped murd3r?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:38 AM
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Especially a rich 6'5 doctor that looks like Henry Cavill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:36 PM
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Hysteria will always be hysteria, symptom of a deeper issue that needs to be worked on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:36 PM
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If you live by that hysteria, you might as well never go near food again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:43 PM
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It definitely does not sound like she's average, so she bagged a 6'5, attractive doctor, gets hit on repeatedly, and gets attention when she's outside, and you want us to believe she's a 7/10, and below you in looks?? Yeah I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:14 AM
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Well you book the events, it's not cold approaching when the entire setting is about dating and everyone there is signed up for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:54 PM
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100%, that platform is a disaster for everyone, man or woman. But there are singles events, speed dating, match makers etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:51 PM
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Dude, it will never work for most men, not much more to say about that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:38 PM
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You can't "think" of something as factually true, either it's true or it's not, and there's absolutely 0 evidence to back up your hysteria
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:29 PM
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I always say don't get married unless there's an exclusive benefit to you getting married. Marriage is a huge commitment, comes with a lot of responsibilities, it's particularly difficult for men, who have to do a lot, lose a lot. So you must have an exclusive, a specific benefit to you, justifying marriage. Once you do, by all means, get married
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:49 AM
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Well im purple pill, so i can only speak from that narrative, but to me i see the reason behind both pills. To me I'd define it as the following: Red Pill: Basically your Trad lore, women are materialistic and crave social validation, so the man has to always work extremely hard to be someone of high value and worth, often times with red pill men, relationships end up being more transactional, the mans the bread winner, the provider and has to be masculine and stoic, the woman has to look pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:57 PM
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You gotta understand men and women are not the same, their desires and wants aren't the same either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:25 PM
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Honestly, I never thought I would be the kind of guy to care about a womans past until I encountered my exes fwb...and I personally knew him from class, the stomach turned right away, I was not only embarrassed to look my classmate in the eye, but I was also too embarrassed to be seen with my ex around my college vicinity, given she had a casual sexual history with many guys in the college, I would get the nastiest ick to be with her in that environment. From then on, I got an understanding of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:23 PM
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Agreed, I've always said this myself, women are socially privileged, men are physically privileged
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:43 PM
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Or maybe theres nothing wrong with him, they just don't feel attraction? There doesn't need to be something wrong with a person for them to get rejected, most of the time it's something simple, just not the type, no attraction etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:42 AM
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I believe there's a psychological term for this that I can't recall, but essentially what you're meant to do is after a certain period of rejections, you cut off attempts, distance yourself from that situation. Take for example dating apps, if you can't get anything from them, you delete the apps, return back a year or so later. Same with women, after say 10 rejections, stay away from women in non-platonic situations, don't ask them out, don't look for dates, return back a year later or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:39 AM
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How does the math even work, 85% of women but 76% of men?? 9% of women sharing baby daddies or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:11 AM
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You need to learn the distinction between systematic behaviour and individual behaviours. The behaviours that promoted the creation of the patriarchy, was largely enforced by women, who promoted it to be the norm, and we see those very same patterns today, over time, the naturalisation of those behaviours would create the patriarchy. The dangerous and toxic results of the patriarchy all stem from behaviours that women promote, even TODAY. As a result, you create men who behave horrifically, lest…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:56 PM
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The RP doesn’t talk enough about how much your view of women is corrupted by sleeping around. Not even sleeping around, but even platonically, I'm not part of the RP, but generally I think men who grew up around women should explain to men that women really aren't any different, they're not more saintly or innocent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:50 PM
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How are you purposefully twisting the original comment to justify these vulgar scenarios? The point I made was valid as it traces its roots back to humanities cave man days, so of course the theory about the patriarchy makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:14 AM
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If you’ve been with a decent number of women (30+) you understand them better than they understand themselves Id like to add, that if you've been around women your whole life, whether platonically or romantically, you start viewing them less innocently and more critically
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:09 AM
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There was this psychology and history major, back in 2021 he made this tiktok discussing a theory he had about the patriarchy and the violent nature of men, and how it was women who created the patriarchy by selectively promoting and breeding with men who had those toxic, violent patriarchal tropes, and honestly, a lot of people saw the logic behind his theory as he was discussing womens behaviour in relation to their relations with men, and how it's tied to the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:59 PM
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"When men are in love they become more timid." One of the easiest ways to tell if a guy doesn't like you like that is if he's awfully confident around you. It's easier to be confident and charm a woman if you don't really like her like that(this is also men don't find confidence attractive the way women do💀), this why assholes tend to be so charming. Guys get nervous around girls they like. When a guy really likes you, or finds you exceptionally pretty , they'll be extremely nervous, shy. They'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:55 PM
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You were soo close, that's not what gets to most guys, it's the reasoning provided. Instead of acknowledging that women are sleeping with these attractive assholes cause they're attractive, they rationalize it psychologically, by trying to paint a moral picture behind sleeping with these guys, which the attractive guy himself contradicts. I don't think most guys would care if women just came out and acknowledged the real reason behind sleeping with these men, instead of spinning a moral reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:47 PM
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In this analogy each person is the product to the other, the illusion of choice does not change the fact that most people don't have power over their choices being reciprocated. Except that's exactly how people work on dating, supply and demand dictates their perception of their ratings, it's why choices are soo skewered, it's the illusion that the person is above their rating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:27 AM
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🤦‍♂️ clearly the point of an analogy has gone over your head, you do realise you can use inanimate objects as an analogy, right? Take the dating market, it's basically like a big grocery store where everyone wants the best product they can get (product=partner), but, often times, the supply doesn't meet the demands, so people get the best that is available to them, but you can't have used produce put back on shelf's, the value has been diminished. That's a standard analogy in which the grocery s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:08 AM
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No one market is exactly the same as another, but there are general principles shared by various markets, the dating market follows the same principles, and has the same formula as a consumer market
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:22 PM
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Oh and you know better with your history with men? I AM a man, I know us better than you. So take the advice or continue raging elsewhere. Lol imagine using dating apps to find a partner 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:06 AM
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If all he wanted was s*x why would he stick around, if a man wanted to stick around, he wouldn't be desperate, that level of effort would have been slow and gradual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:04 AM
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It's called the dating "market" for a reason, it's a competitive consumer market, so long as an analogy can get that point across, it's a fair analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:59 AM
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The point of an analogy is not to read nice, but to get the blunt message across, which this analogy does
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:00 AM
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It's called an analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:49 AM
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It's just entitlement, instead of working on themselves, they just want their cake and to eat it too, they don't even men through the same psychological lense as they would view themselves, it's why there's soo much hypocrisy from their end
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:05 PM
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I've realised that a lot of women will not listen purely because they don't want to change their outlook about their desires and wants, rather they try to force all men to behave the way they want and be sincere, which defeats genuinuity, they refuse to accept that love is built through time and effort, they want things right away like a dopamine addiction, which only love bombers can mimick, because it's all an act. It's why women fall for virtue signalling soo easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:53 PM
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Your husbands an outlier, but generally amongst men it's well established that if he's too confident and a smooth talker from the get go, he's had a lot of practice and success. General rule of thumb is, if he's awkward around you, he doesn't talk to women romantically very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:41 PM
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Clearly you don't know men very well, yes when a man is in love with a woman he would cross a frozen continent for her, he would go above and beyond for her, but the difference is, it's slow and gradual, not right away, that side of a man creeps out very slowly and gradually. In the beginning stages he's f*cking awkward, his efforts are random, like a spur, spontaneous almost, even gifts will be second thought, dates will be second guessed, there will be awkward silence. The above and beyond sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:38 PM
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That level of effort screams desperation though, it's obvious red flags, like virtue signalling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:05 PM
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Describing how he was with you already feels like red flags to me, he's charming, bought you things, planned ahead for you, to a guy that's red flags, he's too confident, smooth and transactional, almost like he's in a rush. I think that's the problem, women are attracted to traits that are red flags to other guys, but not to them. A guy who's interested in you for real will be very awkward around you, because he's second guessing how to not mess up interacting with you, he'll stutter, jumble wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:05 PM
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1) No one should be second or third pick, it doesn't take the red pill to understand that, your partner should always be your first pick 2) This is a dangerous way of looking at things as it absolves men who are picked, from accountability or responsibility, a woman becomes solely to blame for any repercussion of choosing her man 3) It's a dystopic way of looking at things, if you call this the natural order of things, then you're insinuating that the patriarchy and misogyny are also the natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:11 PM
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Psychology 101, you don't encourage change in behaviour by blaming the victim demographic for isolated incidents. Socialization is enforced by society, men AND women, and when a specific type of socialization is normalised, it becomes impossible to change it across the board without societal reforms and major activism and mainstream movements. As it stands, men aren't the primary instigators of negative socialization, men seek reformation but until mainstream idealism of men changes, the sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:22 AM
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Not a single mother (I am not ready to be a father yet) Has to be single Not plus size or obese has to be loyal, supportive and loving Not a psycho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:43 PM
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It is arguably, worldwide men are subjected to the worst role, complete emotional deprivation, suicides much higher, having to work 24/7, subjected to the worst labour, worldwide men have it soo much worse than in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:23 PM
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Neither, they both sound like absolute hell, seriously, where do y'all come up with these outta pocket scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:43 PM
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The alternative is a trad relationship, which most women wouldn't want and most men cannot do: 1) Most men can't financially sustain a whole relationship on their own 2) I doubt most women want to do all the house chores
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:49 AM
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Its soo transactional and materialistic, theres no human element to any of these scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:40 PM
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Thats the thing about identity politics, it runs on a hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:43 AM
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Degrading how? Thats just chronically online perspective, most men aren't going out of their way to attack any woman they deem fat. And even if men perceive a woman as fat, an accurate understanding of the human anatomy is not needed to determine how you feel about what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:00 AM
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You're looking too deep into it, people don't see semantics, no one looks at a person's body and thinks mathematically or scientifically. They just see what they see and decide what they think about it, thats really just it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:42 AM
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Honestly, a woman like that shouldn't be a partner to anyone. But for the most part, these gender norms passed down from the industrial age, but honestly, screw these norms, with the way the economy is going, it'll become an inevitable topic of discussion for future generations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:22 PM
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Yeah, that period basically set into motion all the gender norms and rules that apply even today
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:19 PM
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Actually it was, this isnt even an opinion, it's a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:19 PM
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Exactly, its why the whole trad wife, housewife gimmick is soo violently being pushed to the public, its not natural, it didn't even work for the brief period of time it was present
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:13 PM
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Couldn't be further from the truth, its such a black and white view. All of my relationships started with splitting 50/50 on the first date. Infact, of the many first dates ive gone to, where i paid, nothing happened, bare in mind i put effort, so you cant object in respect to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:31 PM
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Around, for that brief period life was completely different, but before the industrial revolution women absolutely worked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:27 PM
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Yeah it was
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:26 PM
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I dont know about you, but universities weren't mainstream for anyone but Nobles back then, and noble women could pursue it, just look at hypatia or cleopatra. Also, the workforce only came into effect after the industrial revolution, before that women would work, self fruits, vegetables, garments etc, the worklife was different back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:26 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:46 PM
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The sprinkle sprinkle movement is internet brain rot, dont pay attention to it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:51 PM
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Its not the way things were for hundreds of years, its a relatively new, capitalist problem. Historically the provider role was shared
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:49 PM
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Historically, for most of human history men and women were both providers, the act of providing was never just on the man. So this provider issue is a modern problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:48 PM
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It is realistic, the idea of the age gap didnt drop from the sky, its seen- experienced, and judging by women's reactions, its more common than you care to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:45 AM
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It doesnt have to be a golddigger, too many women want a man who has money to spend, older men have it more often than younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:43 AM
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Wrong, all that was said was that violence against women cannot be used to justify everyother man having to live under a transactional relationship. And you ofcourse came along and shifted the narrative to evade the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:42 AM
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The answer you're looking for is money, i grew up watching women go for older guys over money, sucked then, but i understood how it worked
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:44 PM
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A lot of women care about money, which younger guys don't have
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:41 PM
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You're trying too hard, all it translates into, is: "the experience of violence must never be gatekept by women, violence against men is far more normalised than violence against women"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:38 PM
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Your face might not have been average, just the body didn't go with it. Also, factor in clothes, skin, hair, body, race etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:03 AM
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Historically men never paid, the whole dating culture is relatively new. But in the past women paid dowry, so technically women paid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:34 PM
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Historically men never paid, the whole dating culture is relatively new. But in the past women paid dowry, so technically women paid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:34 PM
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Historically men never paid, the whole dating culture is relatively new. But in the past women paid dowry, so technically women paid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:34 PM
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I doubt you'll be happy to be the domestic trad wife
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:31 PM
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I doubt you'll be happy to be the domestic trad wife
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:30 PM
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Agreed, its become soo absurd, that peoples obsession with these terms has created a million meanings to it--which clearly shows they aren't self evident truths, but just stereotypes fuelled by bias
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:10 AM
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1) you straight up support pre-modern (50s) femininity, so by your own logic, idolising it should be supported 2) you mean discussions that have nothing to do with the post, but the trigger words? Your post is a self contradiction, your post can easily be broken down to: A) 50s femininity=good B) capitalism=bad (which i agree with) C) modern femininity=bad D) trad cons+manosphere=bad (which i agree with) But thats a closed loop, if you support pre-modern femininity, then the culprit of its fall …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:05 AM
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Not once would any man think "just how dire are things", because its not, most men dont grape women, so ofcourse most men wont think its dire. The fact is there are victimising stats against both sexes, but using extreme scenarios becomes a case of mass hysteria, which does the opposite of conveying any meaningful message, it just screams brain rot and stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:56 AM
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This entire scenario has bought out the brain rot in people, and its just pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:51 AM
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You honestly said a whole lot of nothing, if traditional femininity was destroyed via automation and the school system, like your post highlighted, then social perception would have no correlation to a negative perception of femininity. Furthermore, you haven't provided a solution either, if capitalism can no longer provide any opportunity for pre-modern femininity to exist in the modern world, your argument would have no correlation to tradcons or the manosphere, but would be directed towards c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:48 AM
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Im glad they understand the economic struggles of having children, getting married, but these economic reforms came too late, at this point the damage has been done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 12:29 PM
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Globally, age gaps are normal, but it doesn't mean its ethical, i remember a popular quora account, she's a 19yr old Egyptian woman, living in the UAE, she met, fell in love and married a 45yr old American man. That was just insane, they can do whatever they want, but it doesn't mean i cant find that gross. But whatever i guess, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 12:27 PM
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Its not the kind of youth you think they're talking about, just earn a higher bracket, build a social status and you'll likely find a guy. Contrary to what what men on here might say, women typically marry into their social class, to marry up, you need to climb up first
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:46 PM
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Clearly i was talking about the dating population, so you dont need to eliminate based on sex. Yes, it would eliminate 50% of women, still leaving him with 50%, thats not limiting. No its not the point, a standard filters, not limits, if you're only gonna find 1 person meeting your standard, the chances are you're not gonna meet that person, so your standards aren't really standards to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:44 PM
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A few years doesn't change much, but you'd also be competing with women of that demographic. Regardless, you need to increase your earning bracket for this to work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:38 PM
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Wrong, all standards filter potentials, which doesn't necessarily limit it, if your standards filter 50% of the population, that's not limiting, as you're still working with a large population. Its only limiting if you've gotten rid of 65%+ of potentials, anything below isnt limiting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:00 PM
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Wealthy doesn't equal millionaires, wealthy is a high bracket earner, top 20% those earning high 5 figures, 6 figures. If your salary is higher than most people in their 20s, that means most men and women your age earn less than you, eliminating most potential partners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:57 PM
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You're more likely to find narcissists amongst the wealthier demographic, also i was specifically talking about how small the pool of options will be, which would lead to those men taking advantage of their privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:47 PM
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Its the same with komodo dragons, orcas, dolphins, seels etc, the animal kingdom is cruel, and torture/inflicting pain seems to be the natural behavior of a great deal many animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:33 AM
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I dont think op is specifically talking about women who make a high salary
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:16 AM
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Not really, its only limiting if your standards are maxed out, otherwise most standards aren't limiting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:14 AM
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Its not unreasonable, but given the state of the economy and the cost of living crisis, it will severely cut down your dating options, essentially you'll be limiting yourself to the absolute worst hand you can deal yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:13 AM
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1 could be worse than the other, but it certainly doesn't validate or justify it, they're both bad at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:26 AM
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Bears dont kill you, bears and tigers like inflicting pain on their victims, they start eating you alive, mauling you, then just pull away, only to continue again a little later, victims are alive for a few hours, albeit in terrible pain. Your average man is nothing compared to the cruelty of a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:25 AM
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The dystopic era kicked off way before 2019, atleast 2012, it didn't get as bad until 2018, post covid it hit a different level
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:34 PM
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I reckon 90s to 2006 was still good, pushing it to 2012 goes into the start of the social dystopic era, probably 2009 max. But generally the previous generations had it easier, the criteria for a relationship was just soo simple, the simplicity felt very human.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:22 PM
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I think we can all agree that dating and marriage was way easier in the previous generations than it is today
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:15 PM
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The 4b movement is not that big in korea, its very tiny, birth rates are low in korea due to the economy. Regardless, statistics from the likes of Pew show that the number of men no longer interested in relationships is the same as women. Especially given how expensive relationships are and how devastating late stage capitalism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:00 AM
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For my own sanity, id like to believe in the best case scenario, even if its deluded optimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:20 PM
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So would the men, its not just one sex switching
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:05 PM
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He got a point though, a swap like that would make both sides realise neither has it easy, so when they swap back, there would be more understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:59 PM
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I don't know man, i think if you only ask the women in your life, you're not gonna understand the men at all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:57 PM
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They would both hate it, i think men will have a rough idea of whats awaiting them, so they'll be somewhat prepared, but i do feel like it will hit women worse like a sudden, full force curveball. Most of society doesn't really talk about mens physical, social and emotional struggles, it gets brushed under the table, so when women do switch to being a man, the drastic difference will hit them pretty hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:56 PM
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I prefer a "in the middle" women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:50 AM
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...these contents are literally being made by women and they're getting millions of likes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:32 AM
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Maybe thats an exception, especially if she's a trad wife, its not my business what she does, but there is the provider husband and trophy wife wave on tiktok, the kind of relationship that my comment was addressing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:57 PM
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You've been living under a rock, the provider husband and trophy wife relationship is literally trending, especially on tiktok, theres a whole wave of the husband doing all the providing, leading and doing 80-100% of the housework, whilst the wife gets the final say in the relationship and is purely his trophy, her mere existence is the reward, she has to do nothing. Are you absent from social media or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:55 PM
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These simps are the cause of relationships being viewed transactionally and unfavourably, it does more harm than good, but good lord they set up the worst dynamics for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:01 AM
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Its not a strawman when its a contradiction to the dynamics of the kind of relationship they want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:45 AM
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Realities gonna hit hard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 01:10 AM
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The question is, where did this entitlement come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:28 AM
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They try to character assassinate any man who notices their problematic views, and then invalidate his take. Its easy to dismiss any mans objection when you label him a broke misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:27 AM
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I was saying the same thing to my cousin the other day after she spent the last 8 years as a feminist only to want a husband who is the textbook definition of a patriarchal man, but then she dials it back, which doesn't help her case. How could you want a rich provider husband, who does all the finances, leads the relationship, but also lets you have the absolute final say and he has to do all the house work? Its such a contradictory take it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:32 PM
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Especially with the emergence of trad wives+provider man trend blowing up on tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:51 AM
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Without a comparison you cant show the validity of the issue, if the op just talked about men, the entire discussion can easily be invalidated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:33 PM
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Why are women giving into the advances of married men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:02 PM
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Your standards are pretty basic, but the fact some people in the comments have a problem with it, is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:57 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:43 PM
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In your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:43 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:42 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:42 PM
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The mistake people in the comments are making is that they are taking the severity of 1 groups bias to completely reject or invalidate another groups biases, 2 biases of different severity can still be valid to have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:42 PM
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I would say these are all capitalism problems
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:22 AM
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I whole heartedly agree, I've seen firsthand how dangerous it can get
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:15 PM
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It sounds rude, but the premise is true, if he's making a million, and everything in her life is dependent on his finances, she's now dependant on him for survival by every definition of the word, his world is now her source of life. Thats how financial abuse happens, but ot gives a good look into the source
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:09 AM
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I dont understand why society places soo much emphasis on a virgin couple to just lose their virginity, with my first ex, sex wasn't in my mind, we were both virgins and happy to wait till marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:30 AM
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The provider mentality is for people who want to be in transactional materialistic relationships, the couple doesn't care nor love eachother, but neither of them have the ambition to be in a meaningful relationship, so they look at relationships as an aesthetic, turning the who thing into a monetary transaction, its why those relationships look soo fake with barely any chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:48 PM
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3rd paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:15 PM
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People
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:59 AM
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Most men are taught to be wary of honeypotting women and golddiggers too, i also know women are taught to stay virgins till marriage. Point is, people warn eachother about the worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:58 AM
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My god, why are you turning violence into a gender issue? If men and women fear dangerous people (which also includes dangerous women), sex clearly has no correlation here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:54 AM
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Thats a red herring, cause the main argument was addressed, the main point was about size, but very size has zero correlation to getting attacked, proven by the stats that majority victims are men. Theres nothing to argue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:49 PM
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Ive dated here and there, my longest relationship was 2yrs, which is longer than most peoples relationship in the west. Generally, the culture in the west is such that it is quite hard to find a good woman who wants a stable, consistent relationship, most of the women in the west have a lifestyle and outlook on life thats designed for single people, so they cant really cope with being in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:25 PM
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Actually im with you on that one, we shouldn't be giving either sex less, but both more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:09 PM
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Its the same with sons
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:54 PM
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What about sons? My family has always done the same precautionary measures with the boys as much as the girls, this came from experience as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:53 PM
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The psychology of killers is such that they dont care about that. Agreed, its why i hate political ideologies, they make people split everyone into 2 boxes, then neglect them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:11 PM
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Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:57 PM
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You definitely dont know the fallacy, cause i answered your initial rant perfectly. Men come in all sizes, killers dont care about size cause they use weapons--that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:55 PM
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I can imagine it for any human half my size. Most of the blue pillers here feel the same way if its a man, they only care when its a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:54 PM
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Cause that is the criteria they use, killers don't look at sex to determine victims, they use your demeanor, your clothing/class, your social circle, your size, your facial expression etc, this has already been documented, netflix even did a commentary series on it. Most men are just easier targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:52 PM
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I dont know about you, but i do the same for my brothers, growing up my parents did the same for me, and im a fairly big guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:59 AM
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Im assuming you're smart enough to understand that men come in all ages, shapes and sizes, correct? You dont need me to hold your hand and teach you that, correct? You also dont need me to teach that irrespective of size, we are all equally helpless in front of a weapon, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:57 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:54 AM
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Ah, so every man is big and strong? in front of a weapon, your size matters not, not one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:54 AM
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It is, there have been numerous studies done, killers take everything into account when chosing the victim, ill attach the studies when i get home
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:53 AM
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Ask me that after you read the post again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:51 AM
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Some of yall really don't read the post do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:51 AM
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That men view other men as easier victims, more vulnerable victims, THAT is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:34 AM
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Yeah, but men are killed at a higher rate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:27 AM
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I linked 3 studies in the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:24 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/25/young-men-relationships-study-week-in-patriarchy A recent Pew Research study has found that 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:26 AM
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You cant use couples that YOU know to determine the percentage of men in non-cohabiting relationships, studies show that a third of men from the ages of 19-25 are single and inactive, that number goes up the board the higher you go up the age range, so chances are 50% of 25-29yr old men are single
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:21 AM
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Sharing the same guy isnt always polyamorous, sometimes its called deceit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:17 AM
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I dont know about you but 60% of 25-29 year olds being single doesn't sound like a minority, and 40% of 30-34 year olds is not a small percentage, just 10 more and its half. Combine the stats, and its not remotely a minority, its almost half
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:12 AM
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Point 2 isnt just about chores, he specifically mentions how the man does all the finances, hence the chores are double the responsibilities as the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:58 PM
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Except its not saying anything about being the opposite of toxic, but filling in the gaps that toxic men didnt fill, but this goes to the extreme, where the guy essentially becomes the pushover, almost servant like, just for the validation of women, he does this by filling the gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:56 PM
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Except its not saying anything about being the opposite of toxic, but filling in the gaps that toxic men didnt fill, but this goes to the extreme, where the guy essentially becomes the pushover, almost servant like, just for the validation of women, he does this by filling the gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:56 PM
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The statistics contradict that. Theres not enough high value men to go around, hence why by 2030 almost half of all women will be single
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:13 PM
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Double standards has become too common these days
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:48 PM
5

That last paragraph is spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:47 PM
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Why is it surreal, loser women should be treated the same, otherwise treat everyone the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:46 PM
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They're already redpill, just against the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:45 PM
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Yeah actually, you can, my ex was not my type physically, but she was such a generous soul, i fell for her hard, would have married her if it wasnt for her racist mother starting what i can only describe as a 2 family world war
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:57 PM
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You got issues, this conversation has nothing to do with those men, but men in general getting generalised and judged, this entire thread is about how women are not held accountable as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:46 PM
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No they're not, most 18-25 are in the 70%, theres a reason why its a very specific demographic of 18-25 getting approached by men of all ages. Not desirability on its own, but coupled with attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:45 PM
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Except average women today think they're in the top 20, and the bottom worst women all think they're 7s at worst
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:55 PM
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Attraction isnt only to do with beauty, it can be a person's personality, ambition, hobby etc If there is no attraction, that is not a relationship, its a monetary partnership at best, and no, the vast majority of relationships are not like, thank god, you have no business being in a relationship if its just about viewing your partner as a monetary asset for your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:20 PM
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You got serious issues if you think demanding men do 80% of the relationship duties is advocating for women to screen men better, its the opposite, its asking for entitled women to have their men pander to them like a glorified servant. I shame you for your despicable views, views that you guise as activism, mask its tolerance under freedom of speech. Absolutely disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:00 PM
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You're conflating lifestyle, life goals and relationship effort into one, they're not the same, nor are they effected by time and age the same. You mentioned travelling, do you think you'll be able to travel at the same rate 20yrs in the future? You go on fancy dates everyother day, say you're financially struggling for whatever reason, will you be able to go on dates at the same rate. Say one of you gets a promotion, a better job, that requires more time and days, do you think any reduction in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:13 PM
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True, i had a successful lawyer give us a lecture at college, part of ambition and success is the long long hours, how little time there is for yourself, so most successful people avoid relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:53 PM
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And what makes you think its the man lacking in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:50 PM
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Those women aren't worthy of respect and no man should put up with them, explains the divorce rate. Just stay single, instead of ruining a mans life, its that easy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:49 PM
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All it does is expose entitled women who ruined a mans life cause they're too stubborn to stay single and decided to settle for someone they consider meh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:48 PM
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You and your ex clearly stopped it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:47 PM
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Im not obsessed with height, but its definitely part of the whole package. Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:46 PM
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"In some way" That contradicts the post What you're describing is called a transactional relationship, hardly worth calling a relationship, more like a pay for service.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:45 PM
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Thats a discussion the couple needs to have, but theres no reason to make a post like this, if its an issue that couples face, the post could have talked about it, instead of whatever spite this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:43 PM
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Theres something wrong with you, its YOU who's not getting it, men could have a lot of problems weighing them down, stess, depression etc, all of which is effecting his ability to remain ambitious in the relationship... Or perhaps the burden of maintaining or carrying the entire relationship is breaking him. Why is your first thought, he's putting less and less effort with time= he's bad? Have you considered that he feels neglected? That he feels she isnt bringing effort, and he's tired from bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:01 AM
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If being a good person is what it takes to be in a relationship, we'd never have failed relationships. Being a good person has nothing to do with this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:57 AM
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You're putting soo much preasure on what men should be, that most men would just die from the effort. Thats way too much you're expecting out of men, he's human, so dial it back a bit. Just courting alone is a lot of work, men want peace above all things, so when you say he's no longer ambitious, have you considered that maybe he was, but is now tired? Have you tried communicating? Coming up with a game plan, perhaps you have an idea he didnt even think off, and hearing it is enough for him to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:54 AM
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You really fumbled with that comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:45 AM
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If 80% of women procreated with 20% of men, humans would have gone extinct thousands of years ago from incest and genetic defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:51 AM
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Thats not 50/50, thats more 80/50, 50/50 is splitting the domestic and financial responsibilities equally, done, problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:48 AM
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Why'd she get in a relationship with the guy in the first place, just sounds like she's entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:46 AM
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Why didnt they stay single then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:45 AM
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Thats honestly pathetic, just stay single, why are you purposefully ruining another mans life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:43 AM
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That just sounds entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:42 AM
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If she can't attract who she likes, she should stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:40 AM
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What a dumb post, a relationship isnt just sex, its companionship, its wanting a partner, if you're only looking at it from a sexual market value, you've made the whole thing transactional, thats like saying for every responsibility a man has, he gets sex everytime he does it, does that sound sane to you. Splitting responsibilities 50/50 is a testament to how much they emotionally and mentally value eachother and the relationship. Your views are honestly disgusting, and in a relationship scenari…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:37 AM
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Yeah, i did
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:31 PM
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Dont talk about your own experience as a fact. You saying an 8/10 guy at 5'6 is pulling women? The height absolutely plays a massive part in all of this. Ive personally seen guys with a 9/10 face get turned down for not being tall enough, seen the girls say it. Yes it is a sum, it absolutely is, everything is taken into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:30 PM
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50 is quite literally the average, it means 5/10, which is the number of people above average and below him are the same, making him average
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:39 AM
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Thats an oxymoron, an 8/10 face on a 5'6-11 body makes him a 6/10 at best. sleeping with super pretty women constantly and dating super hot women is exactly what a chad does
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:37 AM
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No, but i wrote my thesis on those peer reviews, ah, so the scientific method is just guesses?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:07 AM
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Theres a reason why the average is called average, they're above 50%. Above average looks and tall are literally in the 16%, theres a reason why the majority of men are inactive, because the spectrum above average is still valued as an average, which only leaves the top 20% men. True
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:06 AM
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Dictionary.com and even Wikipedia defines it as a good looking, tall, popular, rich alpha male You cant use your own experience to define reality, use statistics, an average height is 5'9, even in the modelling industry that heights not accepted, on dating app statistics women filter above 6ft. Height on its own isnt enough, thats why there are tall incels, women want a flawless, sculpted greek god of a man, ridiculously attractive and tall, wealthy, has status, a lot of social attention etc, TH…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:03 AM
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No, its called peer reviews, you realise there are academics that study ancient humans, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:38 AM
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She's the problem in every scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:37 AM
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I dont think you understand, none of that is a chad. Also womens beauty standards are very specific, an average or short guy isnt considered attractive, even with a pretty face. Niche attracts niche, theres really not much to say, theres a reason why the statistics show that most men and women are single and sexually inactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:36 AM
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A very tiny minority if you're going by stats, but just above average isnt a chad, niche and masculine men are not chads either. And they all pretty much struggle the same as the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:33 AM
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No ones blaming women, but just like women spent the last decade calling out mens unrealistic beauty standards, men can do the same for women. It doesn't take away from the right to attraction, to admit that the standards are ridiculously high, and perhaps encourage empathy towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:31 AM
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Tf you mean provoke women? Purple pill are the middle ground, they call out anyone they disagree with, regardless if they're man or woman, red or blue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:27 AM
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Its easier to get married overseas, than to get laid, women are more traditional in those countries, and as a western man, its not the least bit hard to get married overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 07:22 PM
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You've got some nerve saying that, i know what i am, ive been at odds with red pillers for years now, but im not biased, ill call out blue pillers just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:01 PM
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Im not holding your hand for every link, can you link me anything to prove your case? Didn't think so, but the threads have plenty links
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:47 PM
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Attraction CAN be controlled, its a common myth that it cant, attraction fluctuates with age and is influenced by the media you're exposed to, the cultivation theory and mere exposure effect are perfect representation of how attraction can be molded based on the media you're exposed too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:46 PM
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Thats not the issue, the issue is that average men feel like average women are shooting above their league, leaving 2 out of every 10 guys to get all the attention, in that sense it makes sense that they would have an objection. Meanwhile those chads view most women in the same league as most men. So basically everyone's standards are above their worth, except for the chads, who will sleep with anyone but want relationships with chad equivalent women. But attraction CAN be controlled, its a comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:45 PM
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Im not spending 40min on reddit, i have things to do. But check the links in this thread and check some of the posts, just take the body count post yesterday
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:39 PM
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Women are literally no different, when men post anything, even something legitimate and genuine, women flog them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:58 PM
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If he's charming, social, wealthy and attractive, he's gonna be abusive, thats a perfect blend for a narcissist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:03 AM
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Ive found women in the west dont take accountability for anything, a very well known psychologist in the UK was put on blast because she expressed how women in the west just don't take accountability for anything, even for situations like cheating, they'll rationalise it. If a woman has a history of abusive exes, clearly her standards are the problem, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:00 AM
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Ill be honest, i hope im never put in that situation, cause if a woman like that was THAT dedicated to me, pursuing me that hard and had a good personality, id fold... Then dive to my end
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:50 PM
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Theres absolutely not enough of those guys to go around
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:43 PM
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They don't, theres not enough chads, they're a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:42 PM
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Its not a cop out in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:36 AM
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Sounds like you're projecting and deflecting. The grass isnt greener on our side either, the majority of womens profiles are soo generic and badic that its become a running joke that womens profiles are just copy and pasted. The fact is, if you go on the subreddits for each dating apps, the profile review threads show hundreds of high quality profiles getting no matches. Whether or not men get matches has 0 correlation to the quality of the profile. Its rare cause of your criteria, if your crite…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:36 AM
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Wrong, its still biological, nothing to do with culture. This is instinctual in practically every man, despite the culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:00 AM
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Its not cultural, its biology, early humans evolved towards monogamy to avoid demographic problems, in which genetic diversity was at risk, and part of monogamy was control over everyones sexual autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:49 PM
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Chosing to have sex with men who aren't great says a lot about a womans character
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:46 PM
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Cause its not believable to say that you turned down dozens of men, if its a long line of past sexual partners, its red flags to hear a woman say that she's the one who turned down all those men: 1) the common denominator is usually the problem, in this case, those long line of past partners outnumber you, clearly you were the problem 2) depraved morality, how can you say you turned down all your partners, yet you slept with them? Clearly you dont have your priorities straight. 3) bigger chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:43 PM
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Your take couldn't be more disgusting, entire cultures and religions revolve around marriage, and your take is "nah". If effort is what matters, men in the west would mostly be dating, gget into relationship easy, fact is, networking is important in finding someone, arranged marriages provide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:37 PM
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Completely false, an arranged marriage come from families proposing a potential, you meet them, if you like them, you marry them, otherwise back to the proposals board. Forced marriage and arranged marriage are 2 completely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:35 PM
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Except men aren't only attracted to conventionally attractive women, womens standards in women is far more diverse, they'll find more women attractive than not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:43 PM
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If a womans standard was just a good guy, they'll never struggle with finding a guy. If a womans standard was moral compatibility, they'd never struggle to find that guy. The problem is, most women have very specific materialistic standards, as well as pre- requisites, and they want the moral compatibility and good character added on top, that basically sets them up for failure, cause no matter how hard they try, they'll never find such a specific guy, the probability is way too small, practical…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:12 AM
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You're taking the definition of a simp and applying it to attraction, when a simp is someone who seeks women's validation, especially at the cost of his own self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:57 AM
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Wanting attraction and wanting validation are 2 different things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:50 PM
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The truth is always in the middle, it doesnt take a repulsive personality for the blue pill to feel absurd, it just takes disagreement with some of the core principles-- thats the thing about extreme ideologies, they start off on the right track of each side of the spectrum, instead of working their way to the middle, they continue to go even further into their spectrums, to the deepest parts where the movement now feels absurd to any sane person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 01:01 AM
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Then again he's speaking from the point of a gen z, which is not going to effect older generations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:27 AM
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Not through apps is the point he's making, which is true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:21 AM
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Thats a very misogynistic way of viewing women in third world countries. You know people can speak more than 1 language right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:30 AM
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You good buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:24 AM
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Ah, so you're saying girls from other countries are lesser women? You saying long distance relationships are for losers too. You're giving insecure vibes mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:24 AM
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As a wise man once said, "its better to be wanted for something than to not be wanted at all"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:45 AM
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Ok, some optimism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:25 PM
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Havnt come across such a woman yet, but thats not the worst part, somehow its a turn off for yall when we do think about splitting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:36 PM
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It goes out the window cause of preasure that yall put on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:02 PM
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I am gen z myself, literally one of the biggest debates happening is that men want to split dates, all of social media is flooded with it, we even started a whole movement as to why we should be given flowers too, and even started the narrative that women should ask men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:32 PM
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Thats a generalisation perpetrated by stereotyping men based on older generations. Most msn would love to split finances and receive any kind of gift, even flowers. Most men would greatly respect a woman who asked him out. Cause men are human at the end of the day, they feel the same emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:04 PM
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Whats size queen and blacked? Im not an expert on porn, just normal stuff. I would be worried if it was threesomes and stuff like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:59 PM
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I wouldnt care, but it depends on the category she's watching too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:49 PM
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You can spin it how you want, but women are definitely in the wrong here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:44 AM
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I dont get horniness confused with love, i know what I feel when I feel it. I notice the red flags, i just dont seek a relationship with her just cause I'm attracted to her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:43 AM
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If a man has a history of a certain behaviour, her felt for chosing him. If she has a history of the same behaviour, he shouldn't have picked her, but i understand him, i understand why he felt compelled to go for her. The chances are he's struggling in the dating market, she gave him all the attention, he folded
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:05 AM
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Been around too many women throughout my life, you eventually pick up. Its the same everytime, they get the tingles when they're attracted to the man, even when its obvious the dudes red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:56 AM
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All women who pick bad partners, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:55 AM
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Being attracted to materialism is childish, so they aren't necessarily wrong. Im ok, in the middle Rare exception, but you got my respect for being with him at his lowest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:21 AM
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Even though Morocco is one of the most common destinations for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:19 AM
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Not necessarily a professional athlete, but he played football/soccer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:18 AM
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No, men dont pick the women, women pick the men. Men chose women based on personal logic, i.e which woman will give him time of day, which woman will consider him, which woman is in the same socio-economic compatibility etc etc. Most men know, they have no power in pursuing the women they want, but the fear of loneliness is too strong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:15 AM
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Money, status and the looks gives the tingles. So go for broke, invisible and average looking guys, and all a woman will use as a standard is his character, boom, problem solved lol No, but for real, just throw away the material standards, focus only on character, shouldnt be hard to make the right choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:11 AM
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Thats a whole lot of nothing you said there. 1) women have the ultimate power in chosing the man 2) they can say no to all the suitors that pursue them 3) women insist they never be approached, so the suitors who pursue them should be red flags 4) women can pursue men of their own interests
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:07 AM
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The narratives the same, nothings changed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:04 AM
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The tingles comes from the man being materially well off, tall and rich is exactly what gives these women the tingles in most case scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:04 AM
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The mistake was chosing him, if you're cheating on your partner, you never made a firm choice in picking your partner to begin with. I've never cheated on my exes, cause when i was with them, i made sure i was 100% firm that they were the women i wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:03 AM
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Yall always wanna make the men in the wrong, even when a scenario is about a womans choice. We know that most men are not bad, we know that women chose the man, therefore if woman end up in dead end relationships, we can conclude that woman dont have healthy criterias and standards for picking a partner. The alternative would be all men are psychological masterminds which we know men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:01 AM
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No no, you're completely wrong here, i literally come from that background, even deadbeats can get married abroad, ive got unemployed family members even low wage friends who got married abroad. Convincing fathers is not hard, standards are low for you if you're from a developed country. Hell, i almost got married 3x from abroad proposals made to my family. Its honestly the best shot. Western women are typically the hardest to get in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:35 PM
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Yeah but he was pulling women even when we were younger, and he was shorter, the height helped a lot, but he had a lot going for him from the get go
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:20 PM
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I dont stand incest. And thats a tribute, completely different to fantasising. If my friend m*sturbated to me, i could care less
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:13 PM
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I meant men, not women, most men know that it's almost impossible to attract women in the west, as such most men are becoming more conservative, looking for a wife in other countries, in particular other cultures, to also have a community. Migrants have the most children, so international marriages are the only consistent rate of marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:48 PM
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I've learnt this through trial and experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:45 PM
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6'4
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:43 PM
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No ones interested in eachother on dating apps either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:54 PM
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I remember when i was 16, i was in school, crying at the passing of a friend, this group of girls just straight mocked me for crying, still remember it to this day
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:50 PM
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My prediction is the rise is conservatism, international marriages and the rise in religiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:47 PM
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The risk is there even if you dont have high status friends, part of the reason i mentioned modest girls in the post, was because there were "religious" conservative girls that were in relationships, trying to get with him, it was jaw dropping, absolutely shocking, cause we knew some of these women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:20 AM
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Its literally in the mind, so no, doesn't mean anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:49 PM
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He did, you didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:31 PM
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You got issues, how is it grape if you have sexual feelings for someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:28 PM
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That couldn't be further from the truth, they both perceive women the same, one just has the material power to use women for self pleasure, whilst the other doesn't. But then again, success with women has no correlation to your world view, half the blue pill community doesn't have success with women, jyst like the red pill. Its too nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:24 PM
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In every class, but selectively, everyone is selective in what they believe, but the act of him criticising radical feminism and radical leftism immediately gets an applaud from everyone, even if he's said other things that no one agrees with, it will get overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:21 PM
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British here, unlike America we have far more exposure to the negative side of feminism and liberalism, conservatives have even backed away from it and so have the labour party-- Andrew Tate is more like a massive reformation of the radical feminism and liberalism that has angered a largely, culturally, conservative population. Similarly, in the UK, we emphasise on the difference between economic liberalism and social liberalism. The public wants social conservatism and economic liberalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:14 PM
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Do you have any statistics to back any of that up? Cause the red pill community says the same thing about women, so who's right? Lets call it what it is, a generalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:09 PM
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In a way it exposes the shallow women and keeps you away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:08 PM
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I was using John Rassons definition of the human experience, basically men experience a more diverse experience of life and at a larger rate, if the human experience includes socio, economic and survival struggles, as well as relief and content with every little accomplishment, men end up with a far greater human experience, they are more likely to have their lives represent life on earth, at a much higher rate than women. Also, its not about experience, men experience emotions at a higher rate …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:10 AM
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Kinda scary if im honest, i always found men to be more empathetic and selfless compared to women, almost like men represent the human experience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:57 AM
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Yeah i can call it an ideology, because that analogy can be applied to RP, and theres no argument against it. Also, going by that analogy, non-christians still consists of other Abrahamic faiths, so the devils still a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:58 AM
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I generally find blue pillers to be performative, they're more concerned with social validation, and that sort of behaviour only comes from a place of privilege. Its why they're quick to invalidate anyone who's views, perception and experience remotely questions the pillars of blue pill ideology, because often, they cant relate to the experiences of everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:18 PM
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You're describing asocials not introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:29 PM
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Whats a yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:20 PM
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With fairness to them, they feel the same way about women in developed countries
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:14 PM
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If they cant reach it, clearly theres some issue with the country, they have to change the culture and the countries entire structure, then set the goal. Environment always plays a role, but goals must be attainable, clearly if the majority cant reach it, somethings incredibly wrong with the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:10 PM
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Im sorry but you sound racist as hell to generalise all the non-white countries into 1 category, honestly that last paragraph is disgusting to even read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:07 PM
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"to actual smart people" 💀 are you trying to convince yourself you're smart? You've got a lot to get of your chest, sounds like you're projecting yourself on to me, almost like you're trying to escape who you are. You're describing yourself like you're trying to force yourself to believe thats who you are, your vent is really personal, almost like you're trying to reach for a make belief villain than you can oppose, so you can feel heroic, its why your comments are jumping from one judgement to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:39 PM
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40% is the sum total, not 40% of each No one said that, if you're not fat, by all means dont pursue someone who is. Your standards should be in line with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:29 PM
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Thats not how statistics work, if 40% of people are fat, then it would be under 20% of men. To understand if your standards are unrealistic, just compare it to the percentage of the population that meets it, if its low, you've got evaluating to do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:16 AM
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That last sentence makes it seem like women are things to rent, in an attempt to interpret the worst out of the opposition, you're creating the worst narrative. Anyway, you need to look at it from their pov, its more like the bots will be emulating the closest things to intimacy for humans who otherwise have a bleak life of loneliness, thats not a bad thing, the alternative is literally nothing, which is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:35 AM
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The alternative is leaving men to a bleak life of loneliness, which is very dangerous. The robots aren't people, but it will atleast come close to emulating intimacy, which is better than none, so let it be, its not messed up, its more humans trying to make the best out of a situation they cant change
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:31 AM
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Sex bots isn't gonna happen anytime soon, but AI and virtual porn will become a reality soon, i reckon customizable porn will become a thing, powered by AI and virtual reality. But sex bots are still a far away thing, maybe 50yrs or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:27 AM
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You mean 40% of the general public, not just men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:23 AM
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Theres something called wording things right, funnily if you word it respectfully, they dont take offence in the slightest, if you explain it, they even understand. Theres something wrong blue pill dudes like you, you make out the worst interpretation possible, just so you can come to the worst conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:13 AM
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On the first date i emphasise the importance of honesty and how i detest hypocrisy, so after a while, she's comfortable, she doesn't hesitate to be honest, and if she's not honest, she feels guilty, and just starts to blurt it out, mainly to make herself feel better. But thats how it should be, if you got certain morals, she's gotta be compatible, and honesty is just the best way to bring it out. Also im very selective on who i date, i vet them carefully before pursuing them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:53 PM
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More like "honey, im sorry you dont feel as comfortable and trusting with me as you did with that ONS, i guess i have to compete with him a lot longer to gain the same level of trust and comfort as you got from him within a few hours of meeting him" "yes babe, he earned it, you havnt yet"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:13 PM
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Attraction and comfort, women will never cross that line with a man unless she's emotionally invested in that man, why do you think when women seek fun, they're still selective? This is not red pill, its the truth, women can spin it however they like, but any explanation is plain disrespectful to the guy who has to wait. Its like saying "i slept with this guy on the first date cause i was comfortable crossing that line with him, but im not with you" theres just no other explanation to it. Id gla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:07 PM
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True though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:20 PM
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"attractive and comfortable" do you always resort to red herring when you have nothing else to say? Believe what you want, idgaf, no sane person can take you seriously, excluding getting drunk, which i dont even count as sex. If she's looking for fun, she wants attraction and comfort, the more she gets off that, the sooner she'll cross that line. I really dont think you have enough experience with women, like at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:58 PM
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My guy, you're clearly venting, 'men' like you throw around words like incel, but you're really just projecting, just go back to sleep kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:52 PM
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Except the vast majority of animals are not genetically related https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE96S0XF/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%20published%20in,provided%20the%20greatest%20evolutionary%20edge. https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/scientists-uncover-the-genetics-of-monogamy/ Infact, even though you only cited one article, the majority articles all explain that monogamy was a necessary step in evolution to prevent genetic homogeny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:39 PM
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Yes cause thats why the cheetah is thriving in the gene pool...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:30 PM
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I never denied women dont talk about it, but dont pretend like they just blurt this stuff out, especially if he's a casual friend. I dont know what world you live in, but from my own exes and the women in my life have all attested to this, i didnt pull this out of nowhere. Women are 100% more selective in chosing who to sleep with, because they have to be emotionally invested, even if they are looking for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:29 PM
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"women dont engage in sex unless they're attracted to a man, as well as feel comfortable with him..." "... as well as feel comfortable with him" Dont half quote me, also dobt compare men and womens sexual desires, men have no standards on who they'll sleep with when they're horny, women do, women evaluate any man they sleep with, especially on a emotional level, thats facts, otherwise they'd mindlessly sleep with any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:18 PM
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I should have clarified, i was talking about masters, student loan doesn't cover maintenence for masters, but individual universities do, but most unis only do it for women, with a few accepting race
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:12 PM
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The first thing we've seen eye to eye on
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:10 PM
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What do you think sexual dynamics are? They influence the rate at which you have sex. Are you suggesting that women who engage in sex with different men at different rates were all valied the same? You're the one being the child here, this is basically psychology, women dont engage in sex unless they're attracted to a man, as well as feel comfortable with him, if it takes a woman longer to feel that with a man, thats red flags right there. You understand that women are not exempt from stringing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:10 PM
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Even though what you're suggesting will cause mass incest down the line? Ending the species, theres a reason why monogamy is the norm across the animal kingdom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:05 PM
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Maintenance loan
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:20 PM
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Wrong, thats invalidating my experience and feelings. Attraction determines how quickly she sleeps with a man. If she slept with her ex right away, she desired him more within a shorter period of time than she did me in that same period of time. Nothing insecure about that, its literally a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:19 PM
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Paying for the first date makes no sense in my opinion, 2 strangers should split it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:17 PM
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It kind of is, in my college women were entitled to maintenance, even though i came from a low economic background, i wasnt entitled to it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:16 PM
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How is it predatory to want a virgin??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:13 PM
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I swear gen z is increasingly anti-feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:12 PM
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Actually thats valid, i have nothing against waiting, but if i know that she's given it easier to other men in the padt and I have to wait, to me im not just a back up, someone strung along
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:11 PM
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Im not against lesbians...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:07 PM
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Have you been living under a rock? The whole objectification movement was about criticising mens standards, it was vilified as unrealistic standards. Yes, we were preasured to mold our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:06 PM
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You're waffling here, this isnt philosophy, physical attraction is not a mental image, it is what your eyes see. Attraction is the first criteria people use to have someone be a potential romantic interest. Yes, compatibility determines whether you get into a relationship or not, but attraction is the first criteria by which you select potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:05 PM
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I personally think its ridiculous to compare men from different eras or backgrounds to modern men in the west, given that the dating scene is completely different in the west compared to the east, or how its different from the past. Modern men are the product of modern dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:01 PM
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You mean standards they cant reach? Cause if you have a scenario in which the majority cant reach the goals, the goals are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:58 PM
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Thats what attraction is, romantic interest is something different, but attraction is attraction. Id definitely want to get to know them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:57 PM
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You missed the point of the thread, she can stay single for life, idgaf. The pount is that why are unrealistic standards a problem when men have them, but not when women have them? If society made it a mission to address mens unrealistic standards, why do we normalise the same behaviour from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:56 PM
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Thats definitely not true, most men are definitely attracted to most women. But the second part is true, finding someone attractive is not the same as being romantically interested in them. But attraction definitely makes the approach and opportunity easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:53 PM
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The point here is that womens standards are unrealistically high, and that is what needs to be addressed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:36 PM
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It just means that the unrealistic standards placed on men is not criticised enough, as much as it was when the reverse occured
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:34 PM
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But its saying that if women find the majority of men unattractive, then clearly theres a problem with unrealistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:33 PM
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Yeah im starting to realise theres something wrong with him, i thought he was just a troll at first, but clearly its more than that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:43 PM
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Your logic is something that not even a mother can love. Another red herring 💀, look kid, just say that you're a troll with your chest instead of playing the preschool game of "im smarter than you". Ironically, no one, not even the op can see where you pulled your childish games from, so dont reply back and embarass yourself even further
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:41 PM
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The human brain is not designed to empathise with people with who you share no similar experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:23 PM
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You literally have a whole thread of you making up make believe arguments, that no one has made, and you're talking about recognising jokes? Going by that logic, everything you said on this thread has to be a joke, in which case you're a troll. And yes, i definitely dont think you understand any of these words, since you come across as a child, who committed every fallacy of the words you claim to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:16 PM
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You really have a reading comprehension, an ad hominem is a logical fallacy you moron, its where you create your own version of your opponents argument, nothing at all what they said. In the real ill call that out, but i wont use the word ad hominem, ill explain their fallacious reasoning. Geezus, how old are you? You've committed 2 fallacies, ad hominem and a red herring 💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:48 PM
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Thats a massive generalisation, you cant assume from a handful of observations, you cant assume about me either as my ex did sex work in the past, also, you never inquired as to their reason or world view. If they truly hold disgust, it would be across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:44 AM
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And just like that, you've confirmed you're off your pills
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:41 AM
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Yeah, i mentioned family in my comment. Thats your assumption, i have my own reasons i wouldn't date a woman in porn, because its gut wrenching to know that her sexual history is in the open for everyone to see, its intimate. Similarly i wouldnt date an mma woman for the same reason or a cop, or a secret service woman Its value is identical, you can oppose 2 things for 2 different reasons, just like i dont hate porn and the ufc, in the same sentence i can say i disprove of anyone in my life enga…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:37 AM
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That is exactly what you're saying though. That just cause you enjoy porn but dont date a woman in porn, you're anti-porn. I enjoy the UFC, but i dont want my family in that sport nor will i date anyone in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:26 AM
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Are you dense? An ad hominem is a description of a persons behaviour, in the real world you call people out, you dont bring up the terminology of their behaviour. But, from our brief discussion, I can say with certainty you're definitely not right in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:24 AM
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Pretty much it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:17 AM
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You're missing basic binary here, you can indulge in something, but not participate in it, sure i like movies, but im not gonna cast myself in one, similarly i enjoy a burger, but that wouldn't be my job, you can enjoy a medium and not be interested in being part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:13 AM
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In the real world thats an ad hominem, what you did is called an assumption, crazy, i know, but apparently you're not exposed to the real world often since everything is black and white to you. Theres something called nuance, you attack the message, not the context. And since we are in this particular thread, which is solely about social interactions in social settings, you've failed basic 101 in debating. If people aren't interested in talking to you, thats not harassment, thats just disinteres…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:10 AM
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You have serious issues mate, you made out all that over a 4 to 5 word reply? I swear you're performative as they come. A social setting is designed for socialising, aint nobody saying anything about harassment. So get your reading comprehension sorted first Mr WhiteKnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:55 PM
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Looking at Japan and Korea, thats the global future
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:48 PM
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Except the initial post has 0 mention of the streets, a cafe approach is perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:46 PM
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I never understood why women prefer apps and social media, the odds are literally stacked against them, the probability of them finding anything meaningful is close to 0
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:43 PM
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That couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:17 AM
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"fine with" almost like a last resort, besides it doesn't take into account south and east asian men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:19 AM
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I know, most migrants are south and east asian men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:18 AM
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Rarely, and to top it all off, with gen z its far lower
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:51 AM
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As a Gen Z guy i want to give some insight into this, Millennials idolised women as morally superior, as such you validated all of their actions as a side effect, but Gen Z men, we are more socially exposed to women, and because of your morally superior social perceptions of women, that we're also exposed to growing up, women are far more comfortable being themselves, they're more toxic, and because they're validated by society, it manifests far worse than even the worst men. So our perception o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:10 AM
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White men generally date and marry out at a disproportionately higher rate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:59 AM
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You're more likely going to see a lot of white men and non-white women relationships, but white women are not going to marry out or get into relationships, but they'll likely start radical movements against those interracial relationships. Men of ethnic backgrounds will likely start marrying women from abroad as a result of struggling in the western dating pool. But all of its going to stir into existence the worst radical movements you'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:56 AM
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