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| 2 | Canadian Actress claims little boys should be taught to paint their nails, wear pink, and play with dolls. Also claims women shouldn't have to say no during sex.Well, I just vomited a little. Most of this buzzword-laden mess is only slightly dumb - if you combed through it long enough, you might even sniff out the faintest trace of one or two good points. But #9 is pretty much a hate crime against your own child. And #11 is just poisonous. Literally no one has the right to ask shit like this of literally anyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 07:28 PM |
| 10 | Feminist dating? Is Dr. Nerdlove a good Red Pill alternative?Nerdlove is a super vague more-progressive-than-thou douchebag. Half the time he isn't even trying to help you, just to shove his ideas of virtue down your throat. The best thing one can say about him is that he's not 100% wrong 100% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 04:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Incels really just need to smoke some weed or something.Alcohol > shrooms > drugs >>>>>> le meme plant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 09:14 PM |
| 1 | why are guys so gross, creepy, and thirsty online?How do you even stealth a dick pic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/17 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Does the use of the word "boyos" increase or decrease male attractiveness?He transcends beyond the scale of human attraction and becomes a 8̰͛́̑̽ͪͤ5̫̫͖͇̲͕̱͗̉̓͊̚3̻̭̻̦̘̼̳͞3ͮͩ̽̇҉͕̘͕̙͎4̟̥̽͆6̬͕̟̏̐̓ͨ̌͑̒͠ /10 Cthad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/17 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Does the use of the word "boyos" increase or decrease male attractiveness?It decreases your x/10 rating by a full 3 points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 07:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual incompatibility exists and it ruins relationshipsSexual compatibility isn't a static trait, it's something you can learn and compromise on. Unless you're frigid, not actually attracted to your partner, or exceptionally selfish. Oh, and you need to have realistic standards for sexual compatibility. Not getting to fuck 6 times a day or indulge all your special snowflake nazi midget reverse cuckolding fetishes is not the same thing as a "limp starfish" treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 07:06 PM |
| 3 | What is the hottest type of crime?War crime - just one, though. Quality 8======> quantity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 08:18 PM |
| 5 | There's literally nowhere to go as a guy with dating problems. You realize this, right?Don't give the advice of "shower, shave, buy some new clothes, hit the gym, go out there and meet someone" because these are things that most guys have already done with no success if they're really having such a hard time. These are also things that have resulted in success for many guys. Yes, they don't adequately address everyone's problems, but they are far from useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/17 10:28 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of The Black Pill?I suppose that's one way of putting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 03:35 AM |
| 2 | What do you think of The Black Pill?The Red Pill promises superpowers. The Blue Pill promises comfort, and also certain abilities and advantages. The Black Pill promises...what, exactly? Not much of a pill if you ask me. May as well skip all this pill nonsense and take shrooms or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 12:31 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Partner-count isn't the issue, the issue is whether they are a chooser or notseeks validation from others This part doesn't really hold up. How much of a validation/self-esteem boost can a person get from having sex with a random slob (or, say, with a random fat chick)? And how much of a boost can you get from being with a broadly desirable "high-status" man (or with a broadly desirable "high-status" woman)? The first boost is smaller than the second one - so much smaller, in fact, that they can barely even be compared. Relative choosiness is not incompatible with being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/17 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Can you "teach" a man not to rape?Yes, there may be value in teaching a few things. Like the freeze response that was all over the sub a few weeks ago. Not just men, though. Not necessarily. It might have a broadly applicable, if unequal, value. I have exactly 0 faith that feminist-influenced institutions would be implementing these ideas in a sane, moderate, well-thought-out and non-harmful manner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/17 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Once A Cheater, Always A Cheater? Marriage Therapists Weigh InFeeling guilt, even "awful" guilt, is no guarantee of actual change. Addicts are often ashamed when the buzz wears off. And this shame is rarely - if ever - enough of a "shock" in itself to produce a deep change. Not to mention other things...like, how much of the person's guilt is deep and genuine? How much of it is socially conditioned? And how much of it is simply fake? Hell, far from saving the relationship, the guilt can be just one more of the many factors working to tear it down. The pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 11:14 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion about this article?The article says a few somewhat intelligent things, but it all leads up to a bullshit punchline. Political tribalism is dumb, and corporate virtue-signalling is shallow and annoying as usual...but the main premise of the article makes no sense whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 01:34 AM |
| 3 | [DEBATE][SERIOUS] - Incel and Non-Incel politely debate /r/IncelsFor some people, it can be. Of course not everyone is going to indulge in it, but for some people, it would be beneficial to get things off their chest in a place where they wont be completely rejected. Kinda like how someone can be in a bar with their buddies, and complain about how bad their boss is, etc. There are places where a man can complain about his unwilling celibacy, aren't there? There's even a literal offmychest subreddit. Sure, most (not all) of the responses on those places might … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/17 05:06 AM |
| 6 | [DEBATE][SERIOUS] - Incel and Non-Incel politely debate /r/IncelsDo you believe "venting" is genuinely helpful and valuable for a person's mental state? Especially if it becomes very frequent? Or if it occurs in a space which does not answer the venting with silence or reassurance, but tends to throw all those infuriating and upsetting ideas and feelings right back at the person? Outrage addiction is a common dynamic, one anyone who's spent any time in a far-left or far-right space can witness. Surely it's not hard to see that the incel spaces also fall victi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/17 04:13 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Blue Pillers' Hate for the manosphere/TRP Has Less to Do with Claimed "Misogyny" and More to Do With The Types of Men they Attract, and Because they Don't Want to Admit They're Really Red Pill"What a mad idea to demand equality for women! . . . Women are nothing but machines for producing children. Napoleon Bonaparte" Huh. Didn't think TRP would celebrate the "wisdom" of a man who married a single mother and spent most of his adult life as an overcompensating cuckold locked into a neurotic roller-coaster of a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/17 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4 Millennial and younger men: Which teen TV shows did you watch as a teen?Buffy the Vampire Slayer Beastmaster Only Fools and Horses 'Allo 'Allo Nash Bridges! It's been nearly two decades and I still have the theme stuck in my head. Cartoons: don't remember watching much of anything except Ed Edd n Eddy. And South Park, ofc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/17 08:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The sexual/dating climate of today is toxic and most women are better off avoiding it altogether.Taylor Swift? Pffft. Literally pfft. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/17 02:50 PM |
| 13 | I've noticed that lately more and more couples even in their mid 20s are into "hotwifing" and cuckolding. WtF that does tells us about current state, specifically their boyfriends?Without a legit statistic...nah. I don't think it's necessarily some kind of a rising trend. The internet gives every niche an amplified voice, and the ability to form a like-minded community. And young people are disproportionately active on the internet. Tho someone should really do something about all that porn. That stuff rots people's brains. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/17 12:37 PM |
| 3 | Men: what is more important, youth or appearance?On a "rational" level: the young woman. She may be "just" cute, but she'll be cute for a long, long time. On an emotional muh dick level: probably the older yet more overtly beautiful woman. Obviously character is fairly important, too, but all else equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 02:15 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] If not seduction, then what?Hm...well, that was quite comprehensive. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 07:07 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] If not seduction, then what?Yes, there's a whole art of building tension and naturally flirting; it's not easy and a lot of people don't have an intuitive grasp of it. And, for people who haven't managed to "get it" on their own, society is rarely if ever good at getting it across. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 06:06 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] If not seduction, then what?Agreed. There are some useful details, sometimes. But often it's like getting an instruction manual that says "dude just assemble it lmao". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 06:00 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] If not seduction, then what?Hell, there are people who really do need such things spelled out, who would genuinely benefit from having dynamics like "crossing the line twice" pointed out to them. I'm not exactly that way, but there's a lot of things I don't "get"; especially not on an intuitive level (like, say, 90% of expressing and reading body language...but that's another topic). There is more to being interesting than a rapid-fire stream of jokes - even if they happen to be decent jokes. And it's quite possible to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 05:55 PM |
| 5 | [Q4BP] If not seduction, then what?Call me crazy, but Reddish spaces are pretty much the only ones I've seen offering real advice on how to not be boring. Flawed and incomplete advice, sure, and often accompanied by unnecessary and harmful crap - but real advice nonetheless. I'm struggling to imagine what "Blue Pill" advice on not being boring would look like? The only things that come to mind are super vague, or platitudes along the lines of "just be yourself". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 04:47 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] If not seduction, then what?Where's the automod for non-blues? Eh, fuck it. Social skills must be learned incrementally. If you have no friends (or like 2 friends total) then you need to work on that first. You need to acclimatize to the basics of social interaction, to adopt a bare minimum of social confidence, relaxation and spontaneity; and to expand your actual social circle. Trying to skip that step and go straight to dating and fucking would be like a boy jumping onto a Kawasaki as soon as he's outgrown the toy bike.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/17 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Real situation; would this be rape?Sketchy, yes. Rape? Ehhh...depends on the context. For me, at least, the stage of vomiting and reduced balance is still a coherent stage. There were times when I was drunk enough for that, but still "there" and more or less in control of myself. It's not a very smart stage to be in, but I'm fairly sure I'd still be able to give - or withhold - meaningful consent. On the other hand, different people get drunk in different ways. And the story doesn't make it clear exactly how wasted he was. The ~2… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men Marry, Fuck, Kill. What sort of women do men prefer (based on the previous Q4Women)?It's not even about the personality, mostly. There's just something about a woman who spends her day fiddling with other people's guts or getting sneezed on or whatever :p | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men Marry, Fuck, Kill. What sort of women do men prefer (based on the previous Q4Women)?Marry: daddy's girl, selfish and selfless, etsy artist Fuck: slutty, selfless, lawyer Kill: frigid, selfish, doctor Haven't got anything against doctors, but somehow I can't see them as sexual creatures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Why are manosphere (red pill / mgtow) groups so against shaming language when they themselves use shaming language against women?A crab escaped the bucket, so of course the others are pissed. Not every incel transitions from "I'm happy to see people like me make it" to "I'm not happy so no one else should be"...but it's a natural progression for a group whose entire identity revolves around failure. Guess what made it worse is that the story challenges some of their common tenets (women can have sympathy; the "friendzone" is not necessarily one-sided slave labor, and being a good friend can have tangible benefits). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 01:03 PM |
| 5 | Divorce isn't as bad as guys claimTrue, you didn't say anything about that aspect in the OP, even though it's pretty damn important. Glossed right over it. I don't think you are a children-hating sociopath. I think you made a bloody stupid argument; one that makes no sense unless everyone in the conversation is a sociopath whose children are basically just employees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 08:02 PM |
| 8 | Divorce isn't as bad as guys claimNow imagine that level of rejection from the person who you were closest to in the entire world. It's ego shattering. But guess what? You recover from it. And if you don't? If you're some pansy who kills himself because a girl rejected him? Then you've got some serious self esteem issues you should work on before you trick a woman into marrying you. ... Now let's look at post divorce. If you're a man suddenly you're single, with all that experience, with a huge age window of women who want to da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 06:28 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: How many of you think that it's hypocritical/ironic if a feminist woman likes rough sex?Hypocritical? Maybe, maybe not. But definitely stupid, weird, and ironic. Let's say your friend is a hardcore hippy, vegan, pacifist, New Age guy or girl. The type who thinks squashing an ant is a war crime. Who cringes or protests at any kind of violent act no matter how small, mundane or justified. Then you find out he loves no-holds-barred MMA type stuff. He's always there at the events, screaming "FUCKING CRUSH HIM", "POUND HIS FACE INTO THE GROUND", "GET UP YOU SISSY BITCH", and so on. You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 03:35 PM |
| 8 | Men's experiences dating after their 20'sThat they "know what they want" sounds like the most faint and vague praise ever - borderline meaningless, really. Are they actually fun to date? Adventurous and enthusiastic (not just talking about sex, either)? Supportive and affectionate? Does it really involve less stress and the bad kind of games? Do they really have less ulterior motives, or are they simply more subtle and competent about it? And what is it, exactly, that they want and know they want? Now some of those guys did comment on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/17 12:20 PM |
| 1 | The double standard of N countA higher than average n-count correlates with higher self esteem for women with liberal attitudes towards sex. Interesting. No wonder, though, what with all the validation they're receiving; and with a social bubble in which hedonism is tolerated or outright celebrated. The question is - does this hold up when they enter a serious long-term relationship? It's also worth noting that: Self-esteem is a good thing, sure. But it's only one of, like, 6375 traits that make someone a good (or bad) partn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4all: have you noticed an upswing in men putting effort into their appearance in recent years?Like 90% of my scrawny and more-or-less-nerdy social circle has started working out in the last 1-2 years. But that's a small and peculiar sample, and not necessarily representative of anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 11:40 AM |
| 7 | Lack of empathy and understanding towards the male experience is part of why guys flock to RP/manosphere.Yeah, this is an unfortunate dynamic. The people who get shit on the most are the people who do care (at least a little); the people with scruples and empathy. Not the generic assholes, because the assholes don't even bother to engage with the "enemy" corner (whoever that happens to be), and don't care what the "enemy" thinks of them. Kind of like that Scott Aaronson guy - feminism wouldn't have ruined his life if he wasn't 97% feminist himself. And sadly, it happens in the manosphere as well, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/17 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Why do some men talk about women and sex this way?The man would be culturally encouraged/incentivized to talk (more or less) like that - no matter what actually happened. Like, even if they really had great fun hanging out, established great chemistry and connection, kissed under the moonlight or some shit and then had sex - and the man totally perceived it that way, too - that man would still have an incentive to talk about "smashing that hb9" and so on. It's boasting, and it's the way boasting works for men in such contexts. There can be some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/17 08:46 AM |
| 1 | Does porn change how men view women?It can have a negative impact. But the main reason for this is not the "objectification" (a loaded and meaningless buzzword if ever there was one), but some other issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 03:43 PM |
| 4 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?It's roughly as much of a problem as "manspreading". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 07:15 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How would you feel if your partner said that she settled for you?Wow, those are some shitty situations. Even if - judging by those quotes - they're not all equally shitty. If your partner "settled" for you, this is Bad. If your partner settled for you, and the dynamic is so strong that they're consciously aware of it: this is Worse. If your partner settled for you, and is consciously aware that they settled, and they have so little love or respect for you that they're willing to say it: this would be literally The Worst and they are literally Hitler. IMO anyo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/17 02:53 AM |
| 2 | Heightened male aggression toward sexualized women following romantic rejection: The mediating role of sex goal activationPfft, the so-called "non-sexualized" woman is way sexier than her "sexualized" version. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/17 01:02 AM |
| 2 | Who benefits from polyamory more, men or women?Up to a point, maybe. And many would not consider getting de facto fucked-and-chucked by a rotation of average (at best) men a very good outcome. Unless you're saying there would be a gradient of rapidly increasing scarcity from the highest-status men downwards, that would greatly raise the value of even the lowest-status women. I guess that's a possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/17 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Who benefits from polyamory more, men or women?Are you? I don't know anything about you or your relationship. OP's question is about general tendencies in current niche polyamory and hypothetical mass polyamory. Your personal experience - positive or otherwise - isn't necessarily representative of anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/17 09:02 AM |
| 5 | Who benefits from polyamory more, men or women?High status men, followed by high-status women. Lower status women: kinda fucked. Low-status men: super extra turbo fucked (and the same would be true for average and slightly-above-average men...if not quite as comprehensively fucked). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/17 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Why are people so mad at fat girls?Since they're unattractive to most men, they don't get the benefits of the "Halo effect" - for them it's a neutral, or straight-up harmful, thing. Also, a lot of them have obnoxious personalities. The tale of the fat "friend" sabotaging a girl's diet so she doesn't have to feel jealous is an extreme edge case, but you get a whole lot of lesser shit. Now, I don't really know if the average fat girl is much more obnoxious than the average person, but I strongly suspect she is. And in any case, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/17 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Single / teenage motherhood - what is your stance?I remember coming across a study which suggested that - when you eliminate the impact of class, or maybe genetics - being raised by a single mother is only marginally worse for the kid's well-being than the regular family model. However, I can't find this study right now. So don't interpret the above as 100% legit trufax sent down to earth by God. It's just something I very vaguely remember and would like to find again so my memory of it can be confirmed - or proved wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 06:43 PM |
| 2 | [Q4ALL] What assumptions, if any, do you make when a person says they do not want to be exclusive with you?It means there will be no relationship happening with that person (not for me, anyway - if someone else wants to try and defuse that particular landmine, I wish him all the best). Instant and irrevocable dealbreaker. The assumptions would be that 1) Our views and beliefs are different and strongly incompatible, and 2) She feels little to no sexual attraction or little to no emotional connection to me, and only wants to keep me around for some unclear (but vaguely nefarious) purpose. Now, if it w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/17 06:34 PM |
| 3 | How important is emotional exclusivity compared to sexual exclusivity?Both are extremely important. And, for many, many people (most people?), they're not even really separable. Where sexual exclusivity is breached, emotional exclusivity will soon follow. And vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/17 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Just be yourself is the single best piece of advice anyone could ever tell youFor many people, Being their current version of Yourself is simply useless. Their current Self is unattractive and unhappy, and no amount of meaningless buzzwords and vague mystical phrases will change that. Sure, they need to take a honest look and identify their flaws...and then they need to change for the better, in as many fields and with as much intensity as possible. They do not need some kind of fucked-up reverse epiphany where they start seeing their goals as utterly unattainable and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 09:00 AM |
| 2 | Why is there a movement to regulate sex bots?It'll be some time before you get barely functional "sex bots". And it'll be a long, long, time before you get sex bots that are even remotely "realistic" and satisfying. The idea of widespread, satisfactory sex bots is a shitty sci-fi trope. People should have realized this shit's not gonna fly once 2000 rolled around and we still didn't have jetpacks and flying cars. I personally find the idea kinda disgusting, so maybe I'm a little biased. Still pretty sure that what you're maybe gonna get, i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/17 07:12 PM |
| 1 | My thoughts on the Red PillThere's a lot of fancy buzzwords in there, but fuck me if I can identify what your argument is. Self-improvement, learning game, lifting...is a sham or a waste of time, because whatever you do you'll still be a beta schlub and "below" any woman (whatever that means)? Working on confidence is useless? Or faking confidence is useless? But you'll always be a beta schlub so good luck on that confidence lol? But being a beta schlub actually isn't that bad, somehow? And you should work on your looks a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/17 09:18 AM |
| 1 | About Michelle Carter... some questions mainly for men. If you aren't a man and decide to answer, please note that in your reply.The original pic was kinda sorta almost maybe cute. That pic makes her look like a man, and not just any man but...hmm...some kind of ugly Nazi mad scientist type character? Fuck, it's on the tip of my tongue. But I can't remember who exactly. I think you and a couple other women are rating her way too high. Fat is a huge minus in my book, but a moderately fat girl with a pleasant and attractive face is still much higher than Miss Obergruppenfuhrer over here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/17 04:59 AM |
| 3 | Are we (RP) a bit hypocritical for judging AF/BB?I see TRP's ideology - as far as it has one - as a Prisoner's Dilemma kind of thing. They believe the "other side" (women) is defecting, or is dangerously likely to defect. So, since they see the "ideal" outcome as impossible or too rare, they defect right back with their own amoral (or sometimes, immoral) strategies. The prisoner who rats on his cellmate because he believes the cellmate is gonna screw him over might be wrong or paranoid or whatever...but is he really hypocritical? The situation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/17 08:50 AM |
| 3 | Is "sexual market failure" related to Protestantism?I come from one of those non-Protestant countries and...nah, I don't think so. There may be a grain of truth here: many Catholic and Orthodox cultures still raise men with certain helpful values and attitudes, like a vague spirit of machismo. But this may not be directly linked to the specific type of Christianity, it's more to do with overall culture. There is some contrast and cultural distance with the Protestant West, but it doesn't look nearly as huge from over here. And this distance may g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/17 12:55 PM |
| 1 | What is your intention in coming to this sub?I like this sub because I get annoyed by echo chambers; and whatever PPD is, an echo chamber it is not. It seems to be remarkably free of the circlejerks, the platitudes, the black-and-white mentality crap and the endless virtue signalling that dominates the echo chambers of the Blue and the Red (and any other worldview). I've only been coming here for a short while, lurking included; but I already had the opportunity to learn a bunch of stuff, and have a couple of my views convincingly challeng… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How true is this statement?Well, I really don't give a shit about anal, no puns intended. In case #1 I wouldn't care about it, like, at all. In case #2, I'd experience the same level of raw sexual frustration for not having anal (which is basically 0 sexual frustration)...but the implications would be deeply disturbing, and would make me question the nature and quality of this relationship. I imagine many men feel this may. Maybe they don't share my total indifference for anal; maybe it's something that they'd like to do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How true is this statement?It's the difference between "that's just the way I am, it's got nothing to do with you personally" and "I don't really find you that attractive". Both scenarios involve a similar level of sexual frustration. But the first one doesn't go beyond that - it's a simple personal trait, something he might be OK with if it's an otherwise good relationship. It's anal, it's not the end of the world. And the second one tops the sexual frustration off with a huge gut-punch to the man's sense of self-worth, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How true is this statement?Huh. That's the same blog that later produced the graph I linked to (relevant blog post here). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Is complete sexual freedom "evil"?"Exploitation" is a tricky word here. Is every marriage in which the male is not a 100% stereotypical "Alpha" a sexless, loveless affair in which the male is exploited and gets nothing in return? Nope. Not at all. Red and Blue Pillers disagree on how often this happens, but even the reddest of the Reds usually don't view the Beta Bux scenario as an inevitable and absolute truth - they just believe it's a very common occurrence. On the other hand, let's look at this proposed new society. A societ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 12:40 AM |
| 4 | How many feminists here believe that polygyny and harems will result from sexual freedom?Even if high-status people of both genders would maintain their own "harems", the end result would be a negative one. High-status people (especially, if not exclusively, men) would be able to monopolize the lion's share of sexual and romantic attention from multiple partners; while average and low-status people (especially, but not exclusively, men) would be getting the barest, thinnest scraps of sex and intimacy. Apart, of course, from the large underclass of people who would be getting pretty … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/17 11:34 PM |
| 12 | Q4All: How true is this statement?Agreed. Most of the time, "insecure" is just a cop-out used to shut down discussion - the guy accused of insecurity often either storms off, or allows the discussion to be derailed onto his own personal qualities, but the end result is the same. Replace the word "insecure" with, say, "worried" - which is what it basically means - and a lot of arguments become plainly stupid or Captain Obvious type stuff. Having said that...exactly what data is that graph you posted based on? Because it seems to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/17 11:13 PM |
| 5 | The Collapse of DatingSure - if we define "somewhat moderate amount of sex" as "had sex at least once in the last 12 months". In other words: our merry band of 80% are "winners" only if the definition is stretched so far, that even the guy who landed 1 one-night-stand and spent the last 364 days moping/wanking is called a "winner". (Not that the remaining 20% of extra turbo hardcore losers is such a small amount of people, either.) I wouldn't know, I never really liked TRP's tendency to overdose on Greek letters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/17 04:20 AM |
| 7 | The Collapse of DatingSo are you peddling the Blue Pill, or the mirror-image Red Pill stuff from earlier? Coz those two are not the same thing. 10% sounds like an understatement. Possibly a huge one. For men aged 20-24, the virginity is 14%. Add to that the people who did have sex once, but didn't get any in the last 12 months, and it becomes 20%. And that's just the biggest, most blatant of the failures; not the only ones. Nowadays any man who has at least 2 women is technically much more free sexually than a male i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/17 01:23 AM |
| 5 | The Collapse of DatingYou're not even completely wrong. There was a very interesting post here not too long ago, about the role of Playboy and its surrounding culture in the erosion of traditional norms. Ultimately it's both women and men that jumpstarted the apocalypse. Elements of both genders participated in the degeneration of society-wide stable monogamy into the modern day hegemony of "serial monogamy", hookup culture and general hedonism. On the other hand, a large % of men experience "male sexual freedom" rou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/17 11:27 PM |
| 2 | We should be making steps to move away from the patriarchy, there is no returnSure, but why is that? How does it click with the rest of the ideology? You could make an argument along those lines for virtually anything, btw. A minimum wage reduces the "freedom" of employers and employees. So do laws about maternity leave, workplace safety regulations, and so on. And those aren't even hard left policies, they're as milquetoast and centrist as it gets. I'm also skeptical about the idea that Communists could not support any kind of a "patriarchal", or semi-traditional system.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/17 02:08 AM |
| 1 | We should be making steps to move away from the patriarchy, there is no returnHuh. This is...interesting. Why do you - a communist - appear to support the deregulation of the sexual/relationship marketplace? That would fit in well with some libertarian or anarcho-capitalist views, but how does it reconcile with an economically leftist ideology? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/17 01:48 AM |
| 1 | "Misogyny" is just hatred of female sexualityNo. These were all values spread by patriarchal media. There's no feminism in that at all. There is no feminism in the dozen rampant forms of "creep"-shaming? There is no feminism in the omnipresent just-be-yourself ideology and its aversion to self-improvement (especially, but not exclusively, physical self-improvement...even you yourself put "lifting" in scare-quotes above for some reason)? There is no feminism in the general prosperity-gospel approach to dating we hear virtually everywhere? (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How do male camaraderie and female camaraderie compare?Not in much detail - I am, after all, affected by the same solipsism/lack of perspective. From my limited experience, female status games are less overt and less in-your-face than male status games. The stereotypical men's semi-competitive banter - the kind where you jokingly disparage a friend's skills, intelligence, etc. in a vaguely friendly but overt way - doesn't happen nearly as often among female friends. Women often keep their ribbing and other versions of these games buried between the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think about people who act like women have identical views?They spend too much time in echo-chambers. Be it "friendly" chambers with their constantly reinforced narratives, or sifting through the "enemy" chambers for outrage porn. One of the reasons I like PPD is that, whatever it is, an echo chamber it is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 05:28 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: How do male camaraderie and female camaraderie compare?I think there's a lot of grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side going on in this respect. More than a few women idealize male friendships; they see a lack of cattiness, passive-aggressiveness, behind-the-back gossiping and female status games in general. So they view male friendships as honest, honorable, brotherly, non-histrionic, whatever. And some men think female friendships are great because they see a lack of corresponding male status games. They see female friendships as supportive, intimate,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 05:20 PM |
| 1 | "Misogyny" is just hatred of female sexualityMost of these people are not frustrated because they're not getting as much sex as Bilzerian; but because they struggle or fail to get any sex or relationship at all. Mainstream, progressive, more-that-slightly-feminist society gave them a set of social scripts and messages, and these messages spectacularly failed to lead these people anywhere. As a result, they are now extremely detached from the mainstream and its values. Whether or not mainstream culture is actually covered by some sort of bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 04:46 PM |
| 1 | "Misogyny" is just hatred of female sexualityThis doesn't answer that question...in what way is more pushing of feminism supposed to result in less male dysfunction, bitterness and modern-type misogyny? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 02:20 AM |
| 1 | "Misogyny" is just hatred of female sexualityTotally agree. But what's really confusing here is this proposal, that having feminism (even more) aggressively pushed onto our culture would somehow reduce or eliminate these attitudes. Misogynists who belong to the incel, mgtow, etc. spheres are deeply in disconnected with mainstream society. They don't hate women because they've been taught to do so by some imaginary patriarchal culture, they are what they are because they've been failed by our modern cultural cocktail. Which already happens … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/17 02:13 AM |
| 2 | "Misogyny" is just hatred of female sexualityThe people in question are mostly pretty young. The society that brought them up - that failed to steer them into a reasonably fulfilling direction and made them bitter, hateful asshats - is absolutely not a traditionalist patriarchy. They've been brought up in a society in which many, many "traditional" conventions have already been overturned, a society already under the considerable influence of feminism and "progressive" ideas in general. Does feminism, especially in its modern form, actuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/17 04:59 AM |
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