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The fat ugly girl has no reason to accept the fat ugly guy's advances, because she can do better. There are many, many guys who are into fat women, a lot of them not fat and ugly themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 04:52 PM
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Male activists need to be willing to do what early feminists did. That's not gonna work. Both men and women see women as inherently valuable, both men and women largely view men as generic and expendable. Any political movement that aims to improve men's lives cannot be explicitly focused on gender issues the way feminism is, because female gender is worth much more than male in the eyes of both sexes. I can only see male activism succeed as part of broader political movements and organizations …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:28 PM
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You can't try to game girls while hating them. I dunno about that. I know one Chad who actively despises women. But he still wants to have sex and has no problem gaming them, because he is rich, ok-looking and socially competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 09:23 AM
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It is perfectly sustainable. Yeah, sure. That's why Trump never got elected and far-right isn't growing anywhere... Men not getting sex is not a crisis. More and more men being unhappy and supporting radical ideologies because of it absolutely is. Not everything is about sex, but sex is a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 09:27 AM
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I am not "hopeful" at all about European countries sliding towards extremism and dictatorship, especially my own Eastern European country. I just think that it is extemely likely, because the current system is unsustainable and no other viable alternative has been presented so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 08:00 AM
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There is no example because no society in the past ever had technologies and cultural norms we have now. This doesn't mean that everything is going great. How can anyone claim that our current system is stable and viable when it is unable to reproduce itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:32 AM
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Russia has recently decriminalized wife-beating. Polish government is actively trying to supress feminist organizations and ideology. Who knows? I can definitely see women's rights being rolled back in more authoritarian countries. And with anti-liberal sentiment on the rise everywhere in the west, things may change there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:05 AM
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That's already better than their old shtick of "everything is completely fine, there's just a tiny minority of crazy neckbeards complaining".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 07:03 AM
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Oh yeah, no problem, I agree completely about game and charisma. I just don't think that bringing up Denny DeVito is a very convincing argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 10:04 AM
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Danny Devito used to cut hair in a salon before his acting career took off...dude pulled bitches left and right Even if I assume that it is true (and I am not sure), that was in the 1950s and early 1960s. That's not just before online dating and social media, that's even before sexual revolution was in full swing. You can't deny that things were way different back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 08:46 AM
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Nah. I've known multiple nerdy, overweight, unattractive, fanfiction-writing girls at the university. If they want to get a bf, they have zero trouble getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 08:53 AM
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how RP always talks about how Disney lied to them Where exactly? That's not somethink I see on RP subs. I only ever saw claims that Disney has harmful messages for women, because it contributes to female entitlement to Chad. Complaints about promoting beta behaviour are usually about teen movies and sitcoms, not Disney animated films.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:08 AM
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I'd say it's even deeper than that. Saudi Arabia and Iran care a lot about religion and tradition, yet their birth rates are horrible. I suspect that industrialized urban capitalist civilization in general is not suitable for raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 12:23 PM
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Certainly there are nice guys who are not so nice, who are actually entitled/egotistical, and that's why they fail with women. Nah. They fail with women because they don't have good looks or a cool dominant personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:18 PM
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Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:06 PM
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that they're entitled It seems to me that "entitled" is now often a code word for "wants something I don't want them to have".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 12:11 PM
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High-N men are out there searching for low-N women I think it's more of an RP ideal than reality. I don't see this happening much in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 06:57 AM
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Any political solution would necessarily include rolling back women's rights to a certain extent. That's not gonna happen in a democratic society where women can vote. Under a more authoritarian regime though? Maybe. See the recent decriminalization of wife beating in Russia (not that I agree with this move). The traditional center-left and center-right parties are struggling mightily in the developed world in many cases that political vacuum is being filled by ascendant far-right parties. True.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:38 AM
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The good old natural selection will probably lead to a population consisting mostly of poor people and religious fundamentalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:01 AM
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It's largely due to to the respect she has for the potential relationship guy that she wants to take it slow. Thanks, I needed a good laugh today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 07:15 AM
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As I said, they fantasize about sex with men in the same league as their current botfriends. Lol. Like Christian Grey, a billionaire who is literally described as "the epitome of male beauty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:03 AM
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women can have high sex drives too To the extent of desiring to fuck every guy in the classroom? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:27 AM
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I'd want to fuck everything. No you wouldn't. Because if you were a woman you would have female hormones and your sex drive would be much weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:54 AM
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It would only be true if people were somehow forced to pair up and stay together until death. In real life monogamy is not enforced, so it is possible for women to rotate through a small number of highly desirable male partners, while a large number of undesirable men remains single. Also, female sex drive is weaker than male, so a lot of women would rather stay single for a while than enter relationships with unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 07:47 AM
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the average number of male sexual partners a woman has What about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:26 PM
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Do they not realize that many of those ladies are single by choice? These are not the ladies who get mocked. They mock post-wall women and single moms who whine because they can't get commitment from any Chad and have ridiculous standards. Have a look at r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen. It's not about women who are single by choice and content with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:12 AM
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Come on, this is obviously a joke.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 01:52 PM
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Yep. Quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 01:59 PM
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But everyone knows that right? No. For instance, I was raised to believe that women don't care about men's looks AT ALL. And that those few who do are shallow outliers not worthy of attention, while normal girls go for guys with kind, supportive personalities. If you already knew how female attraction works at an early age, then good for you, but let's not pretend that this stuff is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 11:30 AM
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That's because they're not looking just for sex, they're looking for relationships. And not just for relationships, but for relationships with men they find attractive (which is a very small minority of men). Your gf's friends feel that competition for men like these is too fierce. No doubt they could easily get boyfriends who are average, but they would rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 07:31 AM
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And please leave out "because I already think she will not be into me because I'm shorter" But that's exactly the reason. Most men don't filter out taller women because they are physically repulsed by them (the way most women are repulsed by short men). They do this because it is generally known that women are attracted to men who are taller than them. Short men really just assume that they are out of those women's league, and that it's not even worth a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:12 PM
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If you really just want a man who makes good money, works out and is a virgin, then finding one shouldn't be a problem. There's plenty of men like this out there. Just get Tinder and focus on guys in IT and engineering. But I suspect that your standards for looks are actually way higher than you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:11 AM
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Poor girls. They are used to dating hot guys who outearn them, but now they'll have to settle for guys who are "just" very hot. What a tragedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 07:19 AM
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Yep. I would actually be able to "be myself" socially. Now I have to fake being way more extroverted and agressive to achieve my goals, and it's draining as fuck. Plus my facial features are kinda feminine and I've literally been told that I would've made a cute girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 07:52 AM
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I wish male and female sex drives were of equal strength. This difference in levels of sexual desire between sexes is the root of almost all misery in the SMP. Alternatively, I wish humans actually were a monogamous species, like swans, wolves or voles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 05:11 PM
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However, first world men are mostly interacting with first world women, who take many things for granted, which gives the perception to most first world men that they are low value. But I don't see how you can be anything but high value when you live better than over 80% of the world. So... your point is that lonely men should just get mail order brides?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:53 AM
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They don't want to get caught by someboby who as an adult needs to be taught how to fish. They want a natural-born fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 08:59 AM
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A guy who is completely unable to get casual sex won't get a relationship either, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 12:17 PM
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There would probably be no incels if it were possible for men to develop sexual attraction to their own sex just by making a conscious decision to become gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:16 AM
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There were five girls in our group. Three were dating older men, one was with her high school bf and one was pretty shy and conservative and remained single as far as I know. But yeah, I agree that large age difference is the exception rather than the rule. That one girl with her 27-y.o. man was a bit of a weirdo. The other two students, plus several others I knew outside our group, had boyfriends who were only about 3-5 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 11:13 AM
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Yeah I feel like the people who keep hitting those talking points ("women want power and money, men not boys" etc) are really basing it on the past generations Not so sure about that. When I was at the university three years ago, most of my fellow students dated men several years older than them who already had established careers. One girl in my group started dating a 27-year old when she was just 17 (not illegal where I live).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:02 AM
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Ever-present strong female characters in movies, shows and books I enjoyed as a kid. Stuff like this made me massively underestimate how much real life women desire to be led by dominant men. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:16 AM
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Well, speaking from my experience, as a kid I was always told that women don't care at all about men's looks. I used to hear it from my mother and from many other older women, plus there are several common sayings in my country with the same meaning. Like "Men love with eyes, women love with ears" or "A man must be just a bit prettier than an ape".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:25 AM
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I am not talking about top SMV pretty boys. The point is that a weird fat woman most likely would not date a weird fat guy, because by virtue of being female she can date above her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 07:53 AM
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Lol. Are you implying that "fat or weird" women are willing to date fat, weird guys? Even an overweight girl would still be flooded with messages on Tinder, both from fat and non-fat guys. Why would she date on her level when she has every opportunity to date up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 06:58 AM
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Most disagreements with The Red Pill exist because it is 100% anecdotal, I am new to Pills (and to Reddit in general), but so far this hasn't been my impression at all. Redpillers constantly cite all kinds of studies to back up their claims, while their opponents usually prefer arguments like "NAWALT", "I am not like this", "My boyfriend/husband is not like this", "Just go outside and look at normal people, you basement dweller" etc. I may be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 09:42 AM
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If a guy dates a broke girl for a while and then dumps her because she has no future Wut? Do you really think a guy would dump a girl because her career is not promising enough? Looks like a MAJOR case of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 08:09 AM
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Very few times I've seen men boasting about how they rejected a woman, or sharing his "funny" rejection on social media. That's because to reject a woman you need to get approached by a woman in the first place. Very few men experience this with any frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 08:42 AM
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They probably won't be able to find enough volcels for a march like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:56 AM
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Why should a man do that? Women are not attracted to stay-at-home dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:36 AM
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Stop putting sex and looks on a high priority. "Just get rid of your most basic instincts, bro!" Okay. Why don't you try marrying a broke, unattractive guy? See for yourself how fun it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 09:40 AM
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Many men have and they're now in happy relationships. They are indeed, except for the "happy" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 09:21 AM
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Nah. Maybe it wasn't French. It was set in the future, and there were farma companies advertising their doping by making drugged up fighters fight on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 08:26 AM
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Women rarely select for ONS's -- when they meet dudes, they're less thinking about your dick and more thinking about what else there is to do with you aside from fucking. Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:17 PM
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When some men are being "nice" to women, as in doing tasks for her, being there for her, and other stuff like that they think that somehow it will increase her attraction to him. Well, it's not like they believe this for no reason at all. It's women themselves who constantly say how they want a kind, attentive, caring guy if asked about traits they desire in a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:49 PM
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Because they falsely assume that the old 'Treat others as you would like to be treated' rule applies to sexual relationships with women and they had noone to teach them better in their youth. Common advice like "be yourself" or "just open up and let yourself be vulnerable" doesn't help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:15 AM
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I recall watching a French sci-fi action movie with exactly this premise. Don't remember the title, unfortunately. The movie was mediocre anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:46 AM
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Looks. Good enough looks automatically improve your personality in the eyes of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:30 AM
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Why would anyone even want to date a woman if they're so superficial like this? Because this is how women work. For evolutionary reasons women are sexually attracted to partners with certain traits. Those who aren't are anomalies and outliers. Good like finding one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:21 AM
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Women can't relate because they have unlimited access to sex. Most men can't relate because they're wired to compete with other men, not pity them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:03 PM
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What I did was picked a guy who was charismatic, funny, and intelligent, despite being really ugly and fat. How tall is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:44 PM
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Maybe 4 out 5 women who are around my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:19 AM
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Traits of genuine nice men are appreciated by women and do help. But they can't be your only traits. Yet good looks can be your only positive trait, and they will get you laid just fine. Same for an extraverted, dominant personality. Or social status. Why not just cut the bullshit and admit that being nice has no relation whatsoever to sexual attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 11:40 AM
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​ Actual nice, lonely, yet frustrated guys do get a lot of sympathy. [citation needed] ​
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 11:31 AM
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yet you don't really see a drastic collapse of the 'institution of marriage'. We do see a steady decline though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 11:01 AM
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At what point does a woman ‘deserve’ what happened to her? I'd say, at the point where she chooses the guy while being perfectly aware of his red flags. Like when she goes after a handsome and charismatic dude who is also a gang member with drug problems. That's not some strawman I made up btw, that's what happened in real life to a woman I know well. If a ‘good guy’ shows his true self and starts being abusive, is she still deserving of bad treatment? No. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 09:46 AM
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It would still be a problem, but not one of a similar magnitude. A woman who is "overweight, older, or not conventionally attractive" would still be regularly approached by men, unless she is a complete shut-in who doesn't use social media or go out ever. Many, many men would still be attracted her both for sex and LTR simply by virtue of her being female. Just not top 20% men. There is no way in hell she will be "ignored entirely".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 07:12 PM
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Thank you. Very well put. I believe, the primary reason for all this disgusting shit is that female sex drive is so much lower than male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 06:10 PM
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"But it's my belief that it's just the type of conflict between explicit and implicit attitudes that leads many feminists to vilify and impute malicious intent on Nice GuysTM - because a feminist's explicit attitude is that she likes, desires and respects men who are nice, respectful, supportive, even submissive and always agreeable with her. Well, I'm betting that that attitude frequently does not agree with her implicit and unconscious attitude that men who supplicate, beg, wait respectfully, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 10:50 AM
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Mate, this was in the friggin 1950s! The cultural landscape was completely different back then. Obviously, being confident and extroverted is still very helpful, but you can't deny that dating was a very different game before sexual revolution and the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 02:58 PM
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