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They rather keep dying than have their job outsourced?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 01:36 PM
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Like, “I don’t understand why people care about the past, they are sooo insecure and they are virgin losers. Luckily i am not like them!” Like, okay? Fuck off? It is my relationship and my future partner? Remember the whole South Park thing about Prius hybrids and smelling their own farts? This is what virtue signalling really is, and what feminism turned into when corporate interests turned it into 'wokeness'. It's accessible, drives engagement, and disunites the working class, what's not to li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 02:24 AM
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Sounds like a job nobody will be angry is taken by robots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 03:30 PM
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if they can, they try to attack you from under the door
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 08:27 PM
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Yea, the pussy says its calling weak men female genitalia, when its based on pussyfooting, someone who hesitates. So its not misogynist. It's saying the worst a man can be is indecisive, a coward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 10:59 PM
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employee resources groups?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 01:32 PM
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and there being a strong ingroup bias for women in tandem with an outgrown bias among men in 2004 doesn't necessarily mean that it is inherent to us as a species. It's mostly socialized into people. If there is an innate bias to protect the younger-looking cuter people, the bias towards fairness and justice inherent in people would counteract a 'let's treat women with kids gloves and throw the book at men' laws normally. Unless you were socialized to treat men as monsters and women as angels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 11:45 PM
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It's not the wish, it's HOW the wish was used. It's still fundementally selfish on the very face of it. Bear didn't wish to get over his insecurities, or to be braver or even "I wish I could tell Nikki how I feel." No, he put the responsibility on another person. "I wish SHE loved ME." And again, this trope is as old as time. and no different from love potions in Harry Potter, except in as much as people in the HP universe know for a fact its going to work, he was pissing in the wind. When you t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 03:56 PM
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She shouldn't have to Goldilocks (not too little, not too much) how friendly she is when she's out in the woods. What's the penalty for not giving him the time of day without insulting him? Nothing. And the effort needed is the least amount, too. As an introverted person, I'd rather not interact with anyone at any time. But I don't see how its harder on women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/26 01:42 PM
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and have seen that behavior downplayed, excused, or encouraged by mainstream culture Mainstream culture encourages misandry not misogyny. Mainstream culture IS feminism. It's the one pushed by the MSM, Hollywood and everywhere that's not underground, or an authoritarian-ruled country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/26 04:39 PM
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You know who passed the Florida law to end lifetime alimony after its 3rd time on the governor's office, because it was vetoed twice before by previous governors? DeSantis. You know who asked it to be vetoed before? NOW. And yet lifetime alimony is a tradcon thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/26 04:32 PM
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Even if they were all sentenced equally, I'm doubtful they are arrested equally. IMO its one of those 'laughed out of the police station' offenses, when its a male victim and a female perpetrator (female on female is also likely to result in such an outcome). The police are likely to refuse to write a report, refuse to press charges, and do nothing at all because 'no crime occurred' is their verdict right off. They don't need to examine the victim or the crime or the alleged criminal, their resp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 01:39 PM
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Everyone will be obsolete in that system, but if you delete humanity (that's what happens if people are not hired and still got to pay rent and buy food), it kinda falls flat as a species (so even oligarchs would avoid it). Going the Elysium way would work for a century before extinction (so oligarchs would also avoid it generally, even if a few assholes would prefer it for their own personal self). Everyone should know the only way to go is going the way of The Culture, where you are inconseque…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 06:00 AM
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A 'The Culture-like' AGI coming and saving us all from ourselves, being impartial and not playing game of thrones with power every election.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 05:29 AM
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They want all men to shut up and hide emotions and forget mental health and stop complaining or reporting anything about your issues and getting justified for that. My experience with conservatives and right wingers in back country has been like this. Very traumatizing… childhood life. Sounds like what feminists do, too. Outwardly they'll claim to be against gender roles, and to let you complain and hear you out. Then when it happens in practice, its fragile masculinity, male tears, incel and co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 05:27 AM
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Also, remaining properly left wing makes it much more difficult for outsiders to consider us MRAs Depends why they dismiss right winger MRAs, or paint all MRAs as right winger. If its to categorically dismiss them, then no, it won't help. The second you say you want to help men, you'll be painted as an incel MAGA republican regardless if you say you're socialist and participate in all the leftist event (or even organize them). Basically, disagreeing with feminist dogma is enough to put you into …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/26 05:25 AM
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Despite the growing gender gap in education and college enrolment no democrat or republican administration has ever done or even suggested doing anything that could help males in education Did you forget the policy introduced in Trump's first mandate to give due process to accused students, that Biden campaigned on having removed, and tried to have them removed once he was elected, but they resisted the removal because their removal was judged anti-constitutional by judges?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 09:35 PM
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In practice, are they even arrested though? Because if we go by DV standards of arrest, its pulling teeth for male victims to have their aggressor arrested. I imagine its even worse for sexual assault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 07:24 PM
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if we step out, we take away labor and consuming opportunities. So society as a larger entity has very little incentive to ever really look at letting us out of the current system so we need to go in the next system, post-scarcity automation where the provider role is gone, therefore men don't need to fill it to earn their keep.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 01:35 PM
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If automation means you don't need to work to live anymore, the provider role is destroyed at the root, and sex bots are a security valve if the demands in dating stay unreasonable, that is more realistic than every man alive going his own way. I could see a return to some people being hermits by choice, without sacrificing quality of life. They'd go very far but still have water, electricity and satellite internet, and some method of getting groceries cheaply or free to them. The main reason pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 06:12 AM
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The Nazis did it, they said Jews ruled the world, owned all the banks, and were oppressive and horrible, and thus had to be depossessed and dethroned by force (at least where Nazis had influence). They were punching down but calling it punching up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 06:06 AM
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If you hold the view that men are all inherently evil and are biologically programmed to dominate, then Patriarchy itself isn't misandrist, it's just an accurate reflection of evil people inevitably doing bad things. But this view is gender essentialist and insane. To hold this view would make you a misandrist and would cause a lot of issues for the theory that gender is socially constructed. They just have to believe the socialization to evilness is universal and inevitable, then its essentiali…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 04:40 PM
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What you quoted is literally a list of the systematic ways that women were denied basic human rights, though. They could have blamed aristocrats, oligarchs, the rich, they chose to blame half the population. It's not like the working class men in 1840 had any voice (including any vote). Note this was also a system where men were designed as representative of families, so they were exercising the family vote. Property (something you had to be pretty bourgeois to own, so ~10% of people) was also u…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 01:48 PM
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Of oligarchs in the uniparty. Since forever, millenia. Even in places without votes or democracy, nobles were the ones throwing around the weight. And nobles were wealthy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 03:27 AM
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because in the jackal mind it's "wrong" to post pictures of yourself when you're "ugly" and therefore "bad" This is why feminists want to destroy gaming for the more involved games (not the dudebro CoD and FIFA parades of games, and not the mobile casual stuff people play on the shitter), because they view the geeky nerdy guys as beyond the pale for being well, geeky and nerdy. It's seen as reason enough to bash them and remove any visual pleasure they might have in seeing female characters in t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 03:14 AM
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It's a shame that the term has been misappropriated to such an extent The declaration of sentiment was pre-patriarchy and already blamed all men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 03:02 AM
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and 'men' never were at the top, the rich, the aristocrats were even if you go in a real patriarchy country where a literal patriarch dictates law around, he's one in 20 or one in 100, not all male family members can be patriarchs. Whenever you see mafia or similar things, there's 1 head of the big family, and everyone falls in lockstep, including the men, who have no influence save maybe attempting a coup d'état.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 02:50 AM
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However, when you two rules for a partner are: (1) woman, and (2) attractive, what kind of criteria are you selecting for, other than someone you can have sex with? There's nothing about personality, values, or experience in there, you're not looking for anything other than sex. The thing is, the standards people have are 'foot in the door bare minimum', not the entirety of what they want in a partner. But that's things you know AFTER, not before approaching. If you know the entire CV of the wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 02:33 AM
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So discriminatory biases that disproportionately affect men are OK? No you see, they don't think those exist, because patriarchy, would be impossible according to dogma for men in charge to discriminate against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 02:24 AM
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And if we count history as starting around antique Egypt, universal male suffrage has been there for less than 2% of time, voting at all for less than 5% of time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 02:21 AM
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That reflects the definition feminism and other 'woke' spaces have of manosphere: anything that talks about men advocacy of men at all in a positive light is as trash as Tate, and therefore dismissable as anti-feminism, anti-women, sexism etc. No need to listen to advocates for equal custody, they're probably just abusers who want to get back to their ex-wife, that's what NOW says anyways. And why would NOW lie, right? /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 03:41 PM
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I wouldn't be able to be near those people if the topic even went close to politics. It would be fine if it was entirely politics-free. That means nothing about gender ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 03:38 PM
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That 'awakening' to the hypocrisy happened for me in ~2005-2006. Even back then talking or reading about feminism and feminists was the same. No blatant hatred of men like today, but definitely a lot of 'men caused their own issues' and 'men have no issues', plus 'DV is 95% perpetrated by men and heterosexual men can never be assaulted in DV because women don't do that'. And I'm a trans woman, so you'd think I'd gleefully join the winning team in bashing Team Man, but that's not how I work. So I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 03:36 PM
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But feminism was the wrong vehicle to do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 01:38 PM
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Nobody ever says "she just had problems with men." They can actually say that, but by meaning the men were bad. "She just met bad men", and not that she was misandrist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/26 06:23 AM
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is no longer as patriarchal with no dominant gender occupying the head of household role like in the past when nuclear family dynamics where still prevalent Even back then, the man was a figurehead, he had representativeness power, but not decisional power. A 1975 study of rural France showed that even in such an environment where men take center stage in announcing decisions and are expected to take those decisions, they consult and give veto power to their wives. They can't unilaterally decide…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/26 06:28 PM
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Woke means the awareness of societal injustices and the need to address them. In anvilicious ways just to look good to others, regardless of how much it actually helps. It's the new "Look, I go to church so I'm a nice person" of the 21st century. And companies practice it for PR, too. Doubly so if it gets them rated higher on investment funds because of ESG/DEI. Woke nowadays is the worst excesses of intersectional feminism oppression olympics, made into fascism where disagreement is violence. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 06:39 AM
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Presume good faith, check the info, is what it means. You can't start from a presumption of bad faith with everyone, you might as well be paranoid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 06:14 AM
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and being born male doesn't equate to being an invincible superhero who's impervious to all forms of harm and danger They don't expect invincibility as much as they don't care when its men being left to rot/die. They know its going to happen sometimes, and they'd rather it happen to men than women. What's stupid is when you have the actual funds to offer services to all, but only offer it to women (like housing, DV, rape services).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 03:42 PM
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It's like mold, but I think mushrooms are more intelligent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 03:45 PM
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And the big thing about the latter, is that so much of it is instituting a class-esque model that funnels resources to the people in charge. They got something like this in India, they call it the caste system.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 06:05 AM
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but there is such a misguided tendency to blame women/feminism for these problems rather than acknowledge the major ways that MEN THEMSELVES perpetuate them. (most male sexual assault victims were assaulted by other men, this is a fact) Not a fact no. Whether this be groping, sexual assault, sexual harassment or rape, most male victims have female perpetrators. Largely because most people are straight, and most flavors of those are not pure power play and sadism like they could be in prison. The…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:08 AM
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This bias is socialized, not innate. We basically teach boys as young as 4-5 that you can't hurt girls (but nobody has an interdiction of hurting boys), even in self-defense. That girls merit being pedestalized as important, precious, works of art, people to protect and give your life for, and who have no expectation of reciprocity. Media will portray romantic gestures as "something men do for women", whether it be flowers and chocolate, expensive dinners, or any other date, its him who pays, he…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 05:21 PM
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Refering to the men at the top is just the apex fallacy. The majority of those at the bottom are also male. Musk and Trump don't care at all about men and boys. They just look to scoop up lost men and boys for there own causes. Trump doesn't have much to do for this, given how they're treated by the other side. Just not burning down the place is enough. Musk abandoned his 3rd party idea for now, and is unlikely to lead it himself if it ever happens (it definitely won't be Trump either). But woul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 12:43 AM
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A world with Universal basic income would benefit men at large way more than a world without feminism in my opinion And people on the right wing advocate for those, without the ideology baggage. Musk of all people, argues for a future universal high income due to the robots replacing workers, getting productivity ratings through the roof, and the companies being taxed in accordance to their usage of automated workforce. Because obviously, if people don't have money to spend, there is no economy.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 12:28 AM
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What I would argue however is that billionaires no matter their gender pose a bigger threat to the wellbeing of all people invluding men than feminism currently does or possibly ever could. Intersectional feminism oppression olympics is what killed Occupy Wall Street. They are the tool the oligarchs use for us to infight instead of unite.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 12:24 AM
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No, the right to vote happened sometime near their existence timeline. They certainly didn't improve the chances of it happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 12:12 AM
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I realize why it would've been necessary to name it 'feminism' to hype women up, because back then, gender dynamics truly were super one sided. Men were just as disposable and as unprotected against dangers as they are today. Told to fly or die at an early age, to not be a burden. To always provide more than they get (from anyone), and put themselves last, lest they be stripped of manhood (not a real man). Doesn't sound one sided to me. It's not like men's gender roles were gentle with men and w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 01:42 PM
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For instance, I could imagine the effect of "cuteness" in kids might skew the warmth/coldness factor, and maybe little girls are just "cuter" than little boys. They're allowed to be cuter than boys, both because parents provide them it, and because its socially approved by their peers and authorities (accessories, more expressive hair, less plain clothing/shoes), without going into make-up at all. For a boy, being cute stops being a net positive at 7 years old (peers find it more weird/vain than…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 03:34 AM
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and men hold the institutional power. Their definition of class A vs class B, when men can definitely be misandrist is a failure of logic. How can they be against themselves? Well they don't primarily identify with gender, easy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/26 02:02 PM
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It tries to couch it between the assertions that “feminism helps men too”, but it believes it is doing so by purging men of their original sin… getting the devil out of them… No different than gay conversion camps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 07:30 PM
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The biggest mistake leftists make in politics is the inherent belief that they are the anti-authoritarian wing They vary in their application. The religious right-wing used to have a stranglehold on TV and movies, what goes in them, what ought to be censored 'for the greater good'. Now they have very little influence. While the 'woke left' controls videogame studios and Hollywood and decided to do what more or less a church would do if they controlled a platform. Diffuse the message, regardless …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 04:35 PM
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What was harder to get was access to the hard labor market (mining, blacksmithing soldiers pre firearms) that women were typically unable to do or that were so punishing that men didn't want women to do. The high-end like lawyer and doctor, always had some women, but they were picked from nobles and rich (as were the men doing it, poor men didn't become lawyers). Women did teaching, sciency stuff (Marie Curie was exceptional for her Nobel prize, not for being a woman doing science stuff), nursin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 05:51 AM
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Even if we try to steelman their position and argue its only in employment and relationships, I simply don't see how the position of husband is a position of dominance over that of wife. He can try to order her around, but he has no authority that can force her to obey, he can't try to manipulate for sympathy because he has less than her by default and the justice system is all too happy to remove his kids upon divorce as being 'best for the kids', making him a visitation wallet, who also happen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 06:17 PM
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Manosphere just means 'pertaining to men', it doesn't have an ideology to it, because it was never chosen like feminism. It was a label imposed from outside. So nobody has authority over the term or can kick anyone out of it. And it would be weird to try to distance from doing stuff for men while doing stuff for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:52 PM
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Overtime mansophere became toxic by letting Andrew Tate and Myron gains inside it, thus corrupting it from the original purpose. That's the thing, manosphere was not something organic like feminism. Manosphere is a name imposed from outside by people who just want to tar good things (like male advocacy) with bad things (like incels) to make a false equivalence. Nobody seriously called it 'manosphere' or gatekept the access, there never was any ideology. It's just a "those evil people" grouping, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:48 PM
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and by far the wokest person I wouldn't use that word, you likely don't use it in the sense most people mean with it. Just the propaganda sense you vaguely heard the MSM use. Like 'woke is just saying progressive'. When 'woke' has definitely turned into propaganda feel-good virtue signalling that is done instead of doing real change. Like going for DEI instead of making discrimination illegal, and encouraging ideological lockstep (which is the opposite of diversity), along with quotas which are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:25 PM
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Its weird that the righteous 'right side of history' that was part of Manifest Destiny went from religious to just being the perceived mainstream opinion, but didn't change one iota in how righteous they feel throughout centuries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:17 PM
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They can even agree to disagree with people that would be political opponents without thinking this is a deal breaker. I could get some specific subjects could be touchy if it touches someone, but a lot of political subjects aren't about LGBT people, and most democrats or leftists are not LGBT.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:14 PM
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Men can absolutely be victims and deserve support, while it’s also true that women are disproportionately affected by severe intimate partner violence and homicide by intimate partners. Severe violence I don't know. If we measure it by hospitalization probably. If we measure it by the violence of the action, no. That's what being bigger would predict. As for homicide, it used to be more equal and then shelters for women victims of DV opened, and the rate of DV male homicide went down by half. It…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 07:12 PM
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I think you’re conflating a structural analysis with a moral judgment about individuals. Acknowledging that a social hierarchy exists doesn’t mean every man is an oppressor. Even then, the social hierarchy doesn't go that way. We as a society recognize social hierarchies and they are 'unsaid' mitigating ways we think about what people do. We're more likely to disregard their bad actions, highlight their good actions, and pardon things we would not be enclined to pardon others lower on the hierar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 06:51 PM
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Also, you’re asking me not to judge all men based on the actions or beliefs of some men. I’m asking you to extend that same principle to feminists. Feminism is an ideology, it implies some level of conformity about a given subject. Biology implies nothing at all about what someone thinks or their individual behavior (it does at the species macro level, not the individual level).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 06:42 PM
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Too many times, women get away with imposing themselves on a man's personal space, getting away with risque behavior and harassment that would land a man in tribunal. Look in Reincarnated as a sword, Amanda, a well-known and respected A-rank adventurer, outright stalks and harasses the MC, claiming its coincidence to always be where she's going, including in her own bathtub. Imagine the outrage if an adult man of 58 years old was stalking a 12 years old, boy or girl, incessantly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 03:42 PM
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Kinda weird if its from Turkey, unless they had no hand in making it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 03:20 PM
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OP is Indian. He absolutely lives in a patriarchal system. The kind of patriarchy that listens to women's groups when the system wants to make rape of men and boys illegal and is lobbied by said women groups to not do that. Very patriarchal...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 01:43 PM
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ADHD, autism and other such disorders have been diagnosed for years according to male symptoms You mean being awkwardly not fitting normalcy for their gender? Sorry for autism researchers manipulating feminity as being more welcoming of quirkyness and the lack of initiating social contact. It's not that women with autism do it more than men, they're just not judged as creepy weirdos for not doing it. And you don't go see a doctor when your kid is just mildly weird. At least not if you're sane an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 04:04 AM
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There should already be a standard for this, about toxic environment. The standard should be that you inform the person that they're contributing to a toxic environment, and in what way. If this is verified as true by independent others (and it should be something objective not a 'when it happens to person A its bad, but person B is fair game'), and the person continues, they should be getting disciplinary action from warning (always warning first) to suspension and eventually firing. This is al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 03:52 AM
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There is still a social construct called masculinity, which is different to femininity, which has many negative consequences for people that inhabit it as an ideal (or are expected to inhabit it). But that's an unnecessary extra step to me. I don't need to sort stuff into blue or red, and squint at purple stuff to guess, or to invent a new category when its yellow. I just say its all bad when forced on people (even themselves) and even vaguely related to gender. Especially when its a differentia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 03:48 AM
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And also weird that violence suddenly doesn’t matter if a gang is involved. They usually mean gang vs gang in a "he could avoid it if he wasn't a member" way. Which is like telling prostitutes to just go flip burgers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/26 03:44 AM
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The expectation of being helpless in the face of danger, or forced to support himself financially. Both are wrong, regardless of who it applies to, and who is feminine or masculine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 11:13 PM
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'Toxic Gender Expectations' implies men are in one lane and women in another, which is gender essentialism. No it only says its the expectations around gender, regardless of which ones you apply to who, that are toxic. The moment you try to justify different dress codes (short hair on men, not showing skin for men, no jewelry for men, make-up on women and not on men), you're applying toxic gender norms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 06:11 PM
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Look at middle eastern in 500s, women were burried alive, they were "loot" for the men that won the war. Would you rather die in a war if your side loses? Most wars started my men, most famines, genocides, etc. Are caused by men. They're caused by elites, for being elite. Their maleness is as incidental and determining to their behavior as their hair color, eye color, handedness or opinion on how they should eat (with sticks, ustensils, or hands)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 05:57 PM
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Most medical ailments are tested for ailments that occur in men They're tested on everyone, just not pregnant women because giving meds to pregnant women in the 1960s caused severe issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 02:42 PM
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I think most women are naturally submissive The appearance of being submissive, and actually being submissive, are different things. If you give orders to your master, you're not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/26 06:36 PM
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Men are perceived as hypoagentic, individuals who can control their actions and beliefs, their problems are their own doing while women are perceived as hyperagentic You reversed it, hyperagency is being perceived as omnipotent and hypoagency is being perceived as an object with no will.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/26 05:12 PM
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Since Grok was accused of facilitating sexualizing women and children by being equal opportunity with the bathing suit thing, others have steered very very far from it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 03:05 PM
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Aimé Césaire, no accent on the i and acute accents on the e. I speak French as first language, even if not France French (even the French argue Quebec people speak and write French better, and use less anglicism).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 02:06 PM
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I don't consider being asocial to be a weird trait. Its normal to me. But not wanting to eat mayo and mustard already locks me out of eating any sandwich I didn't make myself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 07:48 PM
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The innate bias is towards your own demographic, its social (propaganda) to be biased against your own. Autistic men can resist this bias. Autistic women are not more biased for being pro-women, that's the default to be pro-your-demographic. Kids at 4 years old think their gender is best. Kids at 7 years old think girls are best. Autistic men are less likely to accept the propaganda because its not demonstrated. "It's just the way it is" works for science (and even then, some people will try to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 03:39 PM
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My biggest weird trait is my sensibility to foods, mainly texture. I can't eat at someone else's because they're liable to put stuff in their food I don't tolerate. And its not an allergy or like lactose intolerance, they'd call it being finicky, but its just some tastes just don't work with my palate. Mayonnaise and mustard and anything 'tangy' are out. Salads will not happen. And bitter tastes like cabbage better be subdued under a ton of sugar. I can only drink very sweet and milked tea/coffe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 03:04 PM
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Yea, its about removing something straight men likes, not about adding something straight women like. It's the Stop-Having-Fun brigade, apparently having power and influence over the hobby, despite not playing it in significant numbers (the woman who do play and did play, did not think gaming needed a change). Historically, it was mostly women wanting to stop men from drinking and co-mingling with other men (and using religion and temperance to achieve the aim), cause it meant not being home and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/26 02:21 PM
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It's called topping from the bottom and is a false submissive stance where you're simply not submissive, but want to appear to be to get both perks of control, and sympathy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 02:24 AM
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The extent to which "Patriarchy hurts men too" would be applicable if used correctly would be in discussing the anxiety and harm done to a man who beats up his wife to "Maintain control" over her. such observations about other systems of oppression usually discuss how the act of oppressing others is in itself harmful because humans, for all we like to doubt ourselves, aren't really built for it To her credit, this is more or less what bell hooks said. And it doesn't sound better than what the ot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 02:21 AM
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the reason why this identitarian, power based approach took off in the early 10's was that it didn't challenge other forms of power, privilege and bias. As a bonus it divided the people who could have united to challenge those other forms of power. See how Occupy Wall Street deflated from the progressive stack and how you could talk more/easier if you were more oppressed according to feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/26 03:49 PM
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and those two men don’t even give a crap about the female gaze because they’re gay. I'd say its because they're fictional.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 11:25 PM
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Men are twice as likely to be murdered by a stranger. Women are SIX TIMES as likely to be murdered by a partner. Amongst murder victims. Not amongst men/women. It's a fraction of murder victims, not a fraction of the people who remain alive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 10:52 PM
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that we are convinced that we are "stealing" from the billionaires by asking them to pay more taxes. Wealth taxes that involve being taxed on your assets and not your increase in tangible income, are unrealistic and would crash the stock market (by forcing the rich to liquidate their stocks all the time to pay taxes, thus bringing the stock down from selling billions worth). And nobody would be investing in stocks more than for rent-seeking, then. Nobody could be starting successful companies li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/26 03:11 PM
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Men are disposable under Patriarchy - but only if they are poor. Your next sentence clarifies it means 'not rich' and not 'poor'. If you don't have millions to your name, you're expendable. And if you get MeTooed, rich or not, the mainstream will still believe her over you, even if its false (see Johnny Depp). Depp only won because Heard had flimsy evidence and lied, while Depp had pretty solid video and audio evidence. If Depp had brought the same kind of evidence Heard did, he would have been …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/26 03:05 PM
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If its limited to social media, how did they get power in Spain for over 20 years and pass sexist laws while saying they're not doing enough?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 11:13 PM
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Hollyweird also pushed teh "strong 100 pounds woman" into a lot of movies where she effortlessly beat countless men. Technique does go a long way though, Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan in a real combat situation when they were 40 years old, could definitely beat guys 2x their weight if they only rely on raw power. If they faced equally proficient fighters that are also stronger, they'd rely on their nimbleness to get an advantage, and hit weak points while avoiding taking hits. Chances that they would…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 04:07 PM
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16 is the age where its not statutory (exception for doctor relation and minor student-teacher) in most places. 14 if close in age (within 5 years).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 02:24 PM
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I'd agree if he was 14 or 15, regardless of age gap (if its not below 5), but 17 is a line in the sand we decided was 'too young'. Its too young for some, not for others, and that's a case by case basis, no switch thrown the moment you hit 18.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 04:52 AM
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without acting like they are THE oppressed gender and women are all evil The system can side with group A or group B without group A or group B being evil, because the system is not setup directly by group A or group B. Society as a whole more or less always sides with women if things look equal, will help women more readily than helping everyone (welfare, DV) and considers it a crime much more easily with female victims. Even bad actors who don't want to cooperate with female victims are having…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 06:14 PM
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Historically, men of fighting age had little choice in whether they went to war or not. They were drafted, conscripted and forced to fight. As the result, highlighting the deaths of women and children during wartime was typically done to highlight that non-combatants had been killed If he was conscripted, it shouldn't be more honourable to kill him. It's like shooting fish in a barrel vs fishing in the sea. The barrel fish had no say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/26 01:33 PM
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That's entirely compatible with traditional female gender roles that say to be quiet and not take up space, and entirely incompatible with traditional male gender roles that say you must be a bold and hypercompetent agent. The female gender role doesn't expect to be quiet and not take up space, it just doesn't expect the male things, like taking charge, being assertive, reading minds (or at least acting as if they can, because it is expected of some people men are with) or being aggressive in an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/26 02:22 AM
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Just that "men take the lead in relationships!" exists as a nearly iron clad dogma means that there is simply way less opportunity for abusive women to initiate with potential victims. It's "men appear to take the lead to the public who sees the relationship from afar", at home, "when momma aint happy, nobody's happy" is happening a lot. And that was even true 100+ years ago, let alone now. Comptent female abusers can manipulate men they partner with to self-sabotage and self-hurt, and if he eve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/26 02:15 AM
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I had Dragon Ball vibes when I read it, not alt-right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/26 04:32 PM
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Wonder if you'd get an employer bragging to others "and I make them work on weekends and overtime without pay" as if it was an achievement and not exploitation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 05:42 AM
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It's a legitimate fear that a system that purports to be fair is anything but. It doesn't punish deadbeats or bad actors, it punishes normal people who are just unlucky. This "the system sucks and would fuck me over in an instant" is so more of a realistic fear when you know people around you who have been.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/26 01:28 PM
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They put barriers around subways in Japan and Korea because people didn't look. Now the barriers only open when a train is there, only in front of the doors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/26 03:41 AM
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creepypasta This word makes me think of disfigured pasta plate of food, and not at all a weird story.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 05:38 AM
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"Don't walk around looking down staring at your phone" That's zombies. I see them all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 05:36 AM
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Edit: To add one last variable that just occurred to me, it's also possible that a man being raped isn't also afraid for his future in that moment, on top of present material suffering. Both individuals are being traumatized by fear/pain "in the now" but women may have a parallel line of fear about "the future" if the type of rape occurring has a risk of pregnancy. The range of additional thoughts and fears that would tie into that line of fear may result in a higher likelihood/severity of traum…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 04:14 AM
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90% of people 'stayed home', in their farm. It wasn't just women, it was most people who weren't bourgeois, clergy or rich.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 03:29 PM
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Feminism is extremely popular and dominant It's institutional and forced by the oligarchs, its not popular. Not in its political form. Equality the concept is popular (and justice is a concept intrinsically biological), but this could help men too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 01:47 PM
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It took him 30 years to finally build up the courage to go the police to report the crime. It went to court but in the end the woman got away with it because the jury deemed what happened to not be an actual crime. I'm surprised it even got recorded at the police station. He could have gotten the 'not a crime' routine straight there and get laughed out of the police station before its recorded, let alone charged or indicted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 06:30 AM
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If people who work in the country understand it as not applying, you might say that academics didn't really really mean that way, its effectively meaningless. Women get rarely arrested for sexual assault of men already. Largely due to attitudes held by police and the victims (possibly the perpetrator too, but that's not relevant for arrest), that it was probably-not-a-crime, because he was male, and obviously, sex crimes only happen to women. A police officer might believe rape myths about femal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 02:10 PM
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They'd even have the gall to say that police or courts not taking DV against men from women seriously is due to patriarchy of conservatives, and not decades of effort to make sure everybody knows DV is ONLY male on female, that its patriarchal terrorism and abusing male privilege. Stuff that isn't just cult notions of dogma on cute pamphlets, but policy in countries like Canada, UK, US, Australia, Spain. Maybe conservatives didn't lift a finger for male victims, but they didn't write them out of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 06:39 AM
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Phimosis is caused by a pediatrician or parents moving the foreskin before puberty to 'clean under', when there is no under at that point. They cause scar tissue that has issues getting large enough when the penis is erect (its treatable, by stretching).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 01:41 PM
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This is what happens when a normal community gets infiltrated by a purity spiral cult. The moment one-upping for virtue signaling is not only tolerated, but encouraged, the dogma of wokeism (the 'progressive stack', who can be hated without repercussion, sexism is something only men can do, racism is something only whites can do) will tear down most people who don't have huge amounts of patience. It's not the ideology itself, as much as grifters are being allowed in the name of ideology (and tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 01:50 PM
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After a while, it fell somewhat put of fashion (though it's still pushed by the UNWomen), and for a brief lapse of time cops arrested whoever was responsible for domestic abuse. Nah that's mandatory arrest policies. They said a lot of women refuse to press charges on their boyfriend or husband for fear of the effect on themselves, or out of love. So mandatory arrest override the wishes of the alleged victim (the state charges the perp even absent a witness apparently). But those mandatory arrest…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:44 PM
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A need to please, a lack of critical thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 04:11 AM
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It's conformism that breeds cult mentalities, when an ideology is mandatory or the state religion (and not a fad or a fashion). People want to be good people, but mostly, want to be SEEN as good people by others. So they generally adopt the majority culture around them, to 'fit in'. And the horrible woke version of intersectional feminism is the state religion in many places. Adopted as a method to divide and conquer, not because it was modeled and made according to an oligarch, but because it a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 04:18 PM
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It's the new religion. Americans thought that 'being a good Christian' made them a good person, defined as going to the church on sunday and praying before bed. And sometimes condemning stuff they judged as too sexy for puritans (those were the extreme wing, much like most wokes wouldn't give a fuck about videogame characters showing skin, but some do).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 01:30 PM
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Jonathan Majors seemed similar. What he reported didn't seem that bad for him, until he was said to have forced his phone off the hands of a woman, possibly injuring her in the process of retrieving it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 06:15 AM
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Especially when you imagine the whole reason they introduced mandatory reporting was because alleged female victims were refusing to press charges. They sure didn't do it for male victims. The increased arrest of women (because previously when police spotted no aggressor, or a female one, they'd go 'no crime occurred') was even said to be wrong by feminist groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 06:05 AM
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its the Futurama sexbot propaganda all over again, that society would collapse without men to toil and invent stuff. In a society with robots everywhere doing every job, mind you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 02:48 PM
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I can't think of any thought exercise that has been done with men (bear, poisoned candy, etc.) that hasn't had a very similar version used against Jews. To any lurkers here, I am not saying that modern-day men go through the same thing as WW2-era Jews; I'm just saying a lot of the rhetoric is the same. Just having mentioned a demographic judged as privileged with the holocaust reference at all, will get you Gina Carano-ed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 03:53 PM
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That predates even the FIRST WAVE that brought the right to vote! I don't think it did, either, suffragists were not especially feminists, and can't also be credited 100% for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 03:34 PM
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We have to acknowledge that "Believe All Women" didn't come out of a vacuum. It was a response to a system that treated victims like an incompetent inconvenience. It did presume a few things: Male perpetrators are more believed than female victims, and since the comparison was never made to male victims (because men are laughed out of the police station, long before saying they want to press charges); that male victims represent a rounding error.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 02:24 PM
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I'm not sure why Justin Roiland kept canceled after the allegations against him were dropped. Supposedly he's a bad person at work or something, and did stuff that doesn't cross into illegal. But that's no reason to despoil him of his 2 animated series.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 01:03 AM
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But there really wasn't any other big push to critique and dismantle gender roles until feminism came along. Technology was the change that made the role change possible, namely the contraceptive pill, not feminism. Feminism just happened to be there at the same time to take credit for it. It's the King of our world, to Saitama's One Punch Man. King is powerless, but is S rank because every single villain Saitama beat was wrongly attributed to King. And its kinda weird in that it just happened t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 07:01 PM
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The issues men face are not obvious, they are oftentimes not easily actionable and very much down to an individual level. Custody not starting as 50:50, different grades for same sex in school, the justice system being harsher on men at all levels (suspect, charge, sentence, plea deals, prison sentence or suspended, length of it, execution etc).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 01:52 PM
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the world is practically gonna end in like, 70 years Literal doomerism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:14 PM
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Kinda meaningless to have men or even everyone judged as misogynists for doing nothing specific at all. Like you can say a society is white supremacist, but if you want to say an individual is, they have to have done something. Not just 'existing in a white supremacist society'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 02:44 PM
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A lot of the standards for women were (and are) intra-sex competition. It would be like attributing the psychotic focus on the awesomeness of business cards of Psycho to normal male behavior, or worse, to something men are judged on by women. Most men couldn't give 2 figs about the shoes, make-up or handbags of women (or the painted nails or toes, the color, length or whatever about them - as long as they're not prone to cause injury on others from being pointy). Those who care enough tend to no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 10:57 PM
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because of how disparate the expectations were for women and men at the time. and as MonochromaticPrism above said, men already had lower standards for what is acceptable. You know the initial appearance standard is merely a foot in the door, the minimum standard to get called for an interview. And men are and were generally accepting of pretty average women, even if not all men have been. It's not like men were called choosy before the fat acceptance movement. They always were presumed to be qu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 01:19 PM
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Even accidental death like DUI causing a death. If its a male they will be judged harsher, and if the victim is female, they will be judged harsher, and those are independant variables too. Male causing death of a female accidentally = highest penalty Female causing death of a male accidentally = lowest penalty
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 03:52 PM
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Femicide laws only target sex-based murders of women. All murders of women are considered sex-based though. Even if it wasn't part of the motive at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 03:24 PM
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There are multiple real examples of this issue in multiple other topics (being drafted to war being the most obvious one, the downplaying of domestic violence when men are victims, etc), but to choose this one, where it's a pretty clear widespread and clearly gendered issue its not widespread, and men accounted for roughly 50% of DV murder victims before there were shelter for female victims of DV. Ergo, a lot of battered husband syndrome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 03:23 PM
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Its like femininity, one too many ni
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 03:17 PM
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Indian only hours in the gym would be something different than a support group, or a Indian chess club.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 02:27 PM
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Because it is essentially the argument of "To combat sexism / inequality we need to be sexist / treat men unfairly to balance the scales" That's how they justify unequal DV and rape laws. Not laws nobody wants to change that are archaic (like the UK), but the Spain law, made this way by design, a two tier system where female victims matter more. To rebalance for the past, or supposedly, to treat the problem better (hint: it doesn't, it just makes 2nd class citizens).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 02:26 PM
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But there isn’t evidence of a single person, group, or unified front of “elites” directing the process. They don't need to coordinate together if it follows their incentive: people to not talk about class. They'll just platform divisive stuff. And you have people who truly think its the right thing to do, like maybe Larry Fink. But he probably didn't think it would take the form of quotas. The form it took is basically lower hanging fruits from companies, to show compliance to get rewards. But i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 05:00 PM
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I’ve taken paid surveys that even classify lying about wanting a relationship to get sex as coercion (which I’m not knocking at all). India has it as rape. If you insinuate that there might be marriage, and don't follow up, rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 04:57 PM
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In reality, social order is mostly a distributed network of institutions and feedback loops that no single group fully understands, let alone controls. But you can benefit or amplify shit to then manipulate people into your grift. For example, the people who possess social media are not going to encourage critical thinking, generally, because it would play against their bottom line. Politicians won't encourage it, because it plays against manipulating for votes. And education alone can't do shit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 04:31 PM
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no single group has the capacity to coordinate and secretly design something as diverse and decentralized as feminism No need to create it, you just platform it. Most options of activist groups already exist on the ground, but they're so tiny and without influence, that they're basically noise. Giving a huge platform to radical feminism and adopting a lot of its dogma as a given (patriarchy, duluth model, women need quotas to get anywhere) is a way to move the overton window, without needing to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 03:46 PM
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But you'll also find elites who do the same by fighting against this system. Only Musk has picked up the gauntlet, and he's routinely vilified by the MSM for doing so (they'll pick anything he says and have the worst faith interpretation of his intentions or actions, amplify his failures, and deny his successes). You might say its because he associated with Trump, but no, it was the same since 2016 or 2018, long before Trump's 2nd mandate (and Musk didn't support Trump 1st mandate). Note that I'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 01:23 PM
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This goes to show having an educated population is no replacement for them having critical thinking. Heck they'd probably be better off skeptical and not-book-smart, because they could always learn on their own, but thinking only pre-approved thoughts is the anti-thesis of intellectual autonomy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 03:05 PM
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"It's the other people who are fascists, we are victims!", "don't mind the censoring, its for your own good!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 03:02 PM
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I think there's a Sartre quote that applies here. his argument feels like a "your opponents are all in bad faith, so censor the bigotry because they are trolls", but when you start censoring, what is censored depends on what the powerful wants censored, and you end up with propaganda and forbidden topics (and while yes, they'll initially be 'for the greater good' ones, they'll eventually be 'for the good of the censoring body' ones).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 03:01 AM
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toeing the line, you're not carrying it anywhere, you just have to not go over the line
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 02:57 AM
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Musk brags that Grok is about maximizing truth, and that going woke to appease ideology is potentially making AI (or at least their AI) think lying is good/better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 01:06 AM
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Grokipedia is better, at least for the controversial topics. Note it still says Gamergate was an harassment campaign against women (and doesn't in the Gamergate article), because clearly, the MSM thinks it was and wants everyone to think it was (it basically contaminates 98% of sources).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 12:41 AM
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Phimosis is likely caused by forcefully retracting the foreskin before early puberty (before ~8 at least), supposedly to 'clean under', but it 'unglues it' and makes it unable to grow on the part that was damaged (you can probably stretch it over time, but it takes effort). There is no need to clean under something that is glued on, since there is no space for the bad stuff to even go to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 01:28 PM
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And blames women for “expecting” their partners to give up their relationships. It's an anecdote though, he says he knows a lot of men who have this experience. When they start a relationship with a woman, she insists that he ditches his friend and joins hers, probably in some soft pressuring way. Not threatening with violence. This isn't misogyny because its not saying all or most women are like this. Rammstein has lyrics in their song Rosenrot: Sie will es und so ist es fein So war es und so w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 03:32 AM
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I know it's been before Moses I just wanted to use him Biblespoitation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 11:06 PM
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Yes, the oligarchy platformed pop feminism, and Larry Fink (he's effectively an oligarch) told companies that to get index funds, they had to follow ESG things, and quota-hire women and minorities (the E of environment doesn't matter much - Tesla initially got a lower ESG rating than Exxon, yes the oil company). Then every HR department in the West decided to hire demographics over competence and sideline men and white people. Even call them as bad for being there (in companies), since feminist …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 05:00 AM
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What does this even mean? That men have been considered expendable since the start of humanity. Even in pre-history (though maybe not to that extent, since no wars). Men had control of academia for millennia. Men are not borg, so when man 1 has a problem, and man 405909 is in control of academia, there might not be a way for man 405909 to hear it, or to care. A man in academia was likely a bourgeois, so maybe he didn't care about men in debtor's prison because their wife stole something. Men are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 04:51 AM
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The "men writ large never have" framing sets an impossible standard. It implies that unless literally every man personally participated in violence against women, you can't attribute the pattern to men. It has to be a conspiracy, yes. Or you might as well say Sam and Joe did this. Bob is unconcerned. men's intergender grievances weren't articulated because they didn't exist as grievances when men held the advantageous position. The grievances I named are not new, they existed since the grievance…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 04:38 AM
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Male community members enforced social sanctions against women who violated norms. I can get the others (though they sound kinda tame, accepting or not who your kid marries sounds normal, forcing them to marry someone specific is very rare unless aristocrat - and then its known that its for money/politics by all parties involved), but this one is laughable. Women have always been considered the moral police who can shame people. Men never have been this. Men served on juries that refused to conv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 04:34 AM
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That's the oligarchy doing it though, not men. Violently or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 04:05 AM
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The reason why I say this is because it is clear from the historical record that men enforced the subordination of women violently. But they never did this. That's feminist fantasy. Maybe some countries treat women this way, but men writ large never have, and most countries never have. Men did not require a sophisticated theory to make their grievances legible. Subjugating women is not responding to a grievance, this is why it never happened. Women were oppressed, yes, but not by men as a group.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 03:59 AM
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There was never a need to seriously intellectualize their problems because men were able to implement whatever remedy they desired through force. Men have no been able to implement remedy to their problems (those related to gender, unlike unions mentioned in my other comment), at all. Through force, or debate or charm or legal ways. It's very very slowly moving in that direction (maybe banning circumcision in 2050? equal custody as a starting point in 2040? fair justice/prison system in 2800?) a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 03:48 AM
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They fought wars and litigated their grievances using words and reasoning. And they've demonstrated its effectiveness by winning themselves rights. This is very different from men right? Men have solved their gendered grievances using their monopoly on violence. You'll see why companies against unions decided to break limbs and kill men (way back in the early 1900s or even before) while they didn't do that to women, is likely because workers getting rights was seen as detrimental to the oligarch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 03:39 AM
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Do you really believe that shit? How many billionaires are women? Powerful politicians? CEOs and heads of mega corporations, presidents, congressists, senators, mostly men. The world is ruled by men Those are super few. How many are homeless, in prison, suicide? Those are many. The few men at the top don't represent men. Anymore than a president sharing your sex and being rich means you're living the luxury life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 02:14 PM
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In the United States, you could still sexually harass a woman and get away with it even though it’s technically against workplace policies. In the US, or anywhere, a woman could sexually harass a man, tell him he should enjoy it, and go tell her boss what she did, and she would get no consequences from her job (regardless if he's an employee, a client, or someone working for her). He can't press charges against her either (police will say no crime occurred). Or get justice on a campus (title IX …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 02:27 AM
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In the United States, which is supposed to be seen as one of the most egalitarian and free countries, marital rape, didn’t become illegal in all 50 states until the 90s. Which means your parents were alive during the time when your grandfather could legally rape your grandmother. And vice versa. It did not protect him more than her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 02:25 AM
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Or, to look at it another way, if there aren't enough volunteers, then maybe the country has collectively decided that the war is not worth fighting? Yea, when you see Hulk approaching, and you're not a match, you don't defend your turf to the end, you flee, and let people who care more do the defending. It's one thing to defend people, and another to defend a line in the sand, a country line. People will want to defend their peers, not concepts of ownership.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 02:23 AM
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Then feminism must be successful because of men, if women always go unheard and reviled for belonging to this demographic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 02:05 AM
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Full automation is either on the brink of happening, or our civilization will die before that. It could be 20 or 200 years, but it should be short term on a history scale.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 11:41 PM
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Doesn't have to be all women, only the system rigged that way by elites. Most people will fall over themselves to conform if it feels like its the best material outcome with the least effort. And elites would like it because its the easiest to control men (and prevent rebellion).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 11:36 PM
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Gone is the time of fighting in trenches, and soldiers don't need to carry 200 lbs bags or manipulate 2-handed swords. Women can do frontline fighting in this modern world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:39 PM
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That would happen even in a society of abundance and where nobody has to work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 05:40 PM
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I don't think the author says its consciously or established by women, but I'd say regardless, that its probably established by elites. And we see in the Futurama sex bot video that the elites see the motivation of men to do stuff (invention, productivity, anything but living simply) as more or less all sex, and how sex bots are a threat to this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 05:28 PM
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"we must pass laws that criminalize social media companies using negativity based engagement algorithms", etc, etc. They'd have to start with journalism stopping being Buzzfeed clickbait often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 05:20 PM
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I get Mrs Umbridge vibes from this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 02:19 AM
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There are generally two ways this can go. Path one: "It can happen to anybody", which is my angle, if they understand these things can and do happen to a person no matter who they are and what they look like, we can get as many people to take matters like DV and SA (as common examples) seriously. Those people tend to see your path one not as an olive branch 'it happens to everyone, please help all', and more 'and this is the reason to stop helping, see, its not so bad if I can tolerate it, you c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 04:02 AM
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(disagree with a Nazi and they’ll say you MUST BE working for the Jews or are a Zionist for Netanyahu) Does their head implode when they hear that Musk is pro Netanyahu? I think feminists may also be projecting when they assume that anyone who disagrees with them is actively misogynistic, it’s because they have designated the male sex as “the enemy” who are the source of all of women’s life problems, when we bring up valid male issues they may assume we blame women as a whole for systemic misand…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 03:17 AM
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Purity spirals will necessarily attract opportunistic grifters and narcissistic individuals. I guess it was inevitable that a 'new religion' propped by the oligarchy (given more of a platform, put into HR policies), would attract those types. What is weirder is how they make West companies fall over themselves to fail at their task of making money and selling products to their audience. Larry Fink's ESG classification can't be all that was needed to sink most of Hollywood and West videogame comp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 03:11 AM
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Making it all about herself. Like if you went 'what's in it for me' in all situations all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 01:51 PM
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Personal experience from life: was talking with one of my girl friends about rape and what not. Wasn't an argument or debate, just sharing personal and known experiences. Brought up that my buddy was raped and issues surrounding that. Pretty much the discussion ended there and I was told that I made her feel ''not heard'' and ''not understood''. (I didn't bring up my friends experience as an counterargument, but as a bolster, that yeah, life is different after such experience). So the discussion…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 01:08 AM
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How did women manage in a few weeks to get AI creating fake bikini pics of them (not even topless or pornographic) to be seen as some devastating, pressing issue which must be addressed right this second, when men can't even over years and decades get the most egregious and harmful cases of paternity fraud to be taken seriously? That's an easy one, that was EDS from mainstream media. Regardless of what Musk does or says, it will be interpreted in the most bad faith way to mean he kicks dogs or e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 01:00 AM
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More men than women are homophobes. Yea I also doubt that one. Just see how women are even said to react to men who ever had sex with men but claim to be mostly straight, or to prefer women. Vs how men react when women say they had experiences with women before (or even last week). And this has nothing to do with erotism. Yaoi is one of the most popular genre, with straight women. So the whole 'but men like to imagine women kissing' argument can go pound sand.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 12:17 AM
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You think there is one singular feminism? There is institutional feminism, the rest are just there to act as its shield, with no power. You could even say its worse than religion, because few countries are beholden to a religion at the legal nation level, with the equivalent of archbishops and popes sitting at the government. For feminism its simple. If you get elected, you become the equivalent of an archbishop of feminism. So you represented the institutional version of feminism to get there (…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 02:50 AM
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The entire feminist establishment government in Spain is either corrupted, or has corrupted the rest, to do its bidding. Make sexist laws, be sure everyone knows sexism goes only one way (so they would deny their laws are sexist), and continue to say that its not enough, that the situation is Dire and Horrible, and we must Do Something More! I thought some people were Doomers, but damn. I guess if you're self-aware and do it to embezzle money, its a scam, not pessimism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 07:19 PM
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It's the worst ones regardless of country. But a 3rd world country is unlikely to have one yet. Though India is known for its very strong women's groups, able to block gender-neutral rape laws for fear of false accusations by male rapists. Apparently false accusations are rare or non-existent, until they're hypothetically made by men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 05:24 PM
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Go tell the Spain government they elected non-feminists who pretend to be feminists and who organize feminist marches and pass feminist laws.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 03:22 PM
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If in a 3rd world country a strand becomes institutionalized, it will be the worst one. Because there is always oligarchs with a thumb on the scale to be sure the elected one is the most divisive one. That's how you get Spain with feminists in power making sexist laws, and marches for saying it isn't enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 03:17 PM
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Because they didn't have mean intentions when deciding we're fine to sacrifice in war but with women it's different? They would actually argue that. By saying women shouldn't go, they're infantilizing women, and glorifying men. That those men die 80%+ of the time and if they do come back, are missing limbs and have PTSD, not medals (made of 30$ junk) and a big retirement fund for 99.99% of them, is not a concern of them it seems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 01:10 AM
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Feminist theory named men as the problem and called the boogeyman Patriarchy. That's more of a reason to hate men or feel superior to them. This antagonism is there from its first official moments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 12:06 AM
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Like "Patriarchy" or "Toxic Masculinity" all while ignoring how those terms are used by feminists against men on a daily basis. when the News, a government or a university talks about it, its often 'structural but men are to blame', pretty much like feminist subreddits that argue men are not innately oppressive...but their very existence in society makes them privileged and also makes them oppressive for perpetuating the system. Ergo, innately oppressive with extra steps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 07:06 PM
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and its asked by NoBlacksmith8137 the feminist label person, here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 06:38 PM
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Don't forget stuff like Teach men not to rape, which assumes men are morally deficient by default, while women are not. That or that women never need consent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 02:14 PM
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Unfortunately CHS is considered more of a non-feminist or even anti-feminist than TERFs are. Like they'd excommunicate CHS way sooner and way harsher for being egalitarian and not criticizing rights of men, than they'd excommunicate TERFs for their anti-transness. And nobody gets kicked or even warned for misandry. It's the equivalent of making Guardian articles about trans women being conscripted in Ukraine and how its horrible, and to not care about the entirety of men being conscripted in the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 11:26 PM
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There is also the wrongness of seeing the axis male/female as male being privileged and female being oppressed, all else being equal. It's not. Being cis, being straight, being the dominant ethnicity, being the dominant religion (or lack thereof), this is definitely the privileged position. Male is not the privileged position, and neither is female. It's just a wrong position to put on a privileged/oppressed axis. And using intersectionality for individuals (and not groups at the population leve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 11:12 PM
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It gave them a sense of status with a glass floor they could never break through They had UBI? I think it was manufactured 'you're better than those people', but with a shitty life anyways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 06:17 PM
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Ironically, conservatives are the ones most likely to vote in or allow an equal custody law, or an end to lifetime alimony. Twice before the popular vote in Florida had one of those laws get on the desk of the democrat governor (after it passed with bipartisan support). He was pressured by NOW to veto it, and he did, twice. DeSantis was the one to allow it, when it came on the desk the third time, during his tenure. And in the UK, only tories have even talked about men, labor seems to openly lau…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 01:43 PM
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The CSA were founded to perpetuate, reinforce, and expand the institution of slavery. They lost an election and decided to unilaterally secede from the legitimate government, raided forts and armories, and called for an army of 100,000 volunteers for one year service BEFORE firing on Fort Sumter. Ironically, made of rich land owners and probably largely plantation owners, who would be negatively affected economically by the end of slavery (having to pay a wage period), unless everyone else also …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 05:29 AM
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(For conservatives, women should be protected because they are the “weaker sex”, while men don’t need protection because they must be strong and take care of themselves. For the left, women need protection because they are “oppressed”, and men don't need to be worried about because they are “privileged”.) Conservatives see women as valuable. Weaker or not. The left just doesn't see men as valuable. So its protecting everyone but the disposable. Feminism also has blind spots recognizing male vict…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/26 05:21 AM
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that the overwhelming majority of combatants are men but the overwhelming majority of men are not combatants If Congress was 100% men, that still means fuck all to Joe Nobody from Utah, who doesn't have a Congress seat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/26 11:06 PM
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Yes, I didn't say it wasn't. But its worse since it is. Because disagreement isn't just socially sanctioned, but possibly legally and professionally. It's like saying you're an atheist, or even a satanist, 100 years ago. Just not being Christian was reason to crucify and cancel you forever. Though you often could start over elsewhere, because news were more local in the past.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/26 07:16 PM
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That makes dissent even harder. Eventually we reach a point where the bias is so strong that dissenting facts are outright rejected. You reach that point sooner with a dogmatic cult ideology. Where going against the grain is heresy. At least when the dogmatic ideology reaches critical mass where it becomes the state religion, sort of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/26 04:28 AM
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Texas, like many other states in the US and especially in many of the Southern US states, is home to many Mega churches. Mega Churches, given by its name, are really huge church buildings where the building itself is very huge and attract lots of people to attend and often times focuses on performances like laser and fog shows Weirdly, South Korea is home to a lot of mega churching. I think its the only country in out of Korea, Japan and China that is so Christian. Japan banned Christians for 25…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 04:31 AM
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It was those 1% creators of patriarchy that embraced feminism as a way to drive down wages by diluting the workforce. The oligarchs and governments were also behind the 'be in the home provided for, as a sign of wealth' thing in the 19th century. Some of it was because a lot of those jobs were physically unsafe (namely mining), but none of it was about making women helpless and pregnant. Arguably, birthing was becoming more dangerous with women having 72 hours week schedules. But once there were…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 12:16 AM
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I think it's a genuinely good thing that society has largely moved on from that period and recognized that this sort of thing is unacceptable and not just funny mischief that can be dismissed as young people being silly. But it was done by adults. So its not 'boys', its 'men'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/26 12:05 AM
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Mizrahi Jews (similar to indigenous American boarding schools, but more integrated with White society). My first thought when hearing this name is the character in Xenosaga, Juli Mizrahi. Xenosaga is big on religious metaphor though. You're going after the Zohar, and Mary Magdalene and space Jesus are there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/26 05:18 AM
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Needless to say, after all of this, my worldview was pretty fucked up. I had tried to maintain the belief in feminism throughout everything, and I still saw masculinity as some kind of villain. Part of my cognitive dissonance came from repeated experiences with what seemed like the ONLY two possible communities: the progressive community would shame me for these feelings ("you're silencing women"), blame me for the mistakes I made when I was being abused; while andrew-tate types would acknowledg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/26 03:20 AM
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UBI for everyone would be more bureaucratically efficient than having offices for unemployment, welfare, pensions and 4 other things. You'd need to hire a few cracks to root out actual fraud (people who pretend to have children to cash checks, dead people cashing checks etc), but it would still be way less heavy and slow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/26 02:42 AM
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In capitalist countries, they're not the ruling class, but a hidden 3rd class between capitalists and workers. They're often liberal, and in the US are represented by the US's Democrat party. In The Boys/Gen V universe, that would have been Vought (the more or less omnicorp that is every single business it seems - they do fastfood a la McDonalds, own Sesame Street, at least one big news station (the only one heard in-universe), make MCU style movies about their own real heroes, own gas stations,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/26 02:38 AM
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For what it’s worth a lot of the positions you’re mentioning aren’t things most feminists globally agree on either. Closing women's prisons seems a very UK thing, yes. But DV and rape being gendered things that happen to women, and gendering it so everyone else is invisible? Yes that's something feminism globally does. Conservatives also do that, but no one expects them to help male victims. Conservatives never ran on an equality platform.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/26 07:06 PM
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So there seems to be a reluctance to seriously consider what’s actually driving the manosphere in the first place. A lot of these boys aren’t starting from hostility, but from confusion, isolation or a sense that something in their lives isn’t working and no one is really taking that seriously. Kids don’t turn misogynistic out of nowhere. But they also take opposition to institutional feminism (abolish prison, but only for women, DV but only for women, rape but only for women) as misogyny, and n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/26 02:57 PM
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Yes and after watching the Louis Theroux documentary, what stood out to me is how often manosphere spaces are tied to broader conspiracy-style thinking. Especially the idea that there’s some coordinated elite force working against men. In that context singling out boys and placing them into targeted “anti-misogyny” programs seems likely to reinforce that exact suspicion rather than reduce it? It risks confirming the narrative that institutions are indeed trying to control or single them out? Sto…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/26 02:44 PM
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I've wondered if these sexist against men policies were necessary. I could see a dialectal argument that maybe they are. I couldn't. Either discrimination is bad, or its just bad because your opponents do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 08:51 PM
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and the history of social injustice The propaganda of social justice. People become feminist first because its the water to the proverbial fish. Like everyone was Christian in the US 100 years ago, no question there. There is actual social justice, and there is the woke version of it, the bastard son that didn't understand the concept and still tried to reprint it. Though while it would be tempting to blame the oligarchs for fomenting this, they only had to give it a small platform, and the form…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 06:20 AM
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To me, it's frustrating to see the apathy towards this pipeline. Like a bunch of red-pillers are just popping up out of nowhere, and are lost-causes from the very start. Or the worst is when it's like "they just weren't punished enough". beatings will continue until morale improves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 06:02 AM
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because a few men can impregnate multiple women but women can only be pregnant once a year, but it never happens that they do harem-stuff to repopulate, so its just 'kill the men, they don't matter'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 05:03 AM
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Or else, trying to make gender of victim an agravating circumstances (but only one gender, ofc) They already have in the Istanbul convention and Spain's violencia de genero.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 01:39 PM
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As women were largely excluded from education as everyone (more than 90%) was excluded from education Nobles could have teachers and plenty of books. Nobles (yes, even female ones) all learned to read as a matter of course. They didn't need to attend university to get superior education to 99.9% of others. They were often unmarried and had extensive knowledge of herbal medicine. You didn't need this to be accused of witchcraft. Its the equivalent of being accused of a sex crime in the MeToo era.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 03:10 AM
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If some public figure , say a labor leader, upsets the apple cart in any way, like the late Cesar Chavez, some woman he has had an interaction with can make accusations against him. I did think Strauss Kahn was setup. He did the crime, but it was planned. Like when police pretend to be a prostitute and arrest the client.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 02:40 AM
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Having a blanket disdain for any use of AI is understandable No its not understandable. It's reactionary and kneejerk. I can get being scared of future job prospects for whole domains, or the very act of working, but not the tool. It's like being anti robots in the auto manufacturing. They cut down labor there by over 90% with machines to place parts and do it exactly the same way. And we manufacture a ton of goods (including pretty much all cans) with heavy use of machinery. This is no differen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 01:17 AM
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Wasn't that a large convoy of people? I meant the kind with a handful of people, no goods.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 05:31 PM
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been nipped by an intensive sex ed and gender relations class How dare you treat nobles this way, plebeian? Something like that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 05:24 PM
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It’s also possible that boys and girls have different thresholds for what they consider violence or abusive behaviour, leading boys to be more likely to report that they experienced abuse when surveyed. That's also unlikely. I'd consider the reverse, where for example online harassment. For a boy to consider it this, he needs to be stalked over multiple sites or ganged up. A singular incident where they're insulted, regardless of reason, is not even recorded as something worth noting. But it wou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 05:19 PM
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I think this is close to how I feel. Comments here often feel similar to the White people who say they suffer pervasive ‘reverse racism’, because of of affirmative action. Belief in reverse racism requires a narrowed view of history and dismissal of the experiences that act constantly on a person’s life. The existence of disadvantaged poor White people is not a rebuttal to systemic racism. Misandry and discrimination against men in the 1st world, has nothing to do with 'reverse racism' or 'rever…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 05:03 PM
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That would be like if I were to create a campaign of "Stop dog bites from killing people!", and someone were to say "Well...what about the cat bites? It's more like stop dogs from killing white people. Then black people complain and they're told its a non-issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 04:40 PM
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It is especially hard for men to get enough attention for their problems, as there wasn't a clear-cut and blatant sexism towards men. There was, but there is an institutional force working against it being recognized as gendered oppression. Not just feminism though. The oligarchy would rather men not unite for any reason. So the oligarchy only needed to give a platform within the government to anti-men feminist elements, and voila. Now men pass for evil oppressors, and you can ignore their probl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 02:23 PM
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As for the Duluth model, I think a lot of us are confusing results and reasons. Men being seen as primary perpetrators isn't always coming from "progressives", it is also conservative point. It is the belief of conservatives that men are supposed to be these bread-winning hard-working macho who are the pillar of the house, and there is no reason that men can somehow be beaten by women. Sure, but they didn't invent a model to justify it. You can't go all 'they're just as bad' when they didn't mov…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 02:01 PM
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women's exclusion from political and professional life This is overstated as "women got the right to work". Newsflash, women always worked. Since the concept of work existed. What they generally didn't have was careers. But I would say most men also didn't have careers, or even the mere idea of the possibility that it could happen. Before there was office towers everywhere, most work was rural. It was farm work, it was artisanal making (of clothing, of food, and various tools and useful items), …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 04:43 AM
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Women were also allowing themselves to behave certain ways they were historically never allowed to. By adopting male gender roles as well. This created a period of time where women adopted double gender roles (male and female) whereas men were still largely ridiculed when they adopted the female gender role. This is changing now. Feminism was right in allowing women freedom from the female-only role. They were wrong that the male role or masculinity was 'superior'. If "the patriarchy" thinks mas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 02:31 AM
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I felt like those witches who used to get burned because they were too smart and threatening. At the time they challenged existing gender roles. That's revisionism of the motivation of people accusing witches though. It was mostly jealousy of neighbors having better yields (most were farmers), or even more petty grievances. They probably didn't even know the accused was intelligent or anything like that. And lots of men were accused, mostly in Europe. Most were in the witch accusation times didn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 02:10 AM
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Feminism (as a framework) isn’t structured that way. It’s oriented toward analysing and reducing inequality, not creating it. Would have been nice to change the patriarchy theory definition (especially the portion where all men are complicit, benefit and are privileged by it, and intentionally keep women down - aka sadism), if the goal wasn't to define an enemy to hate and beat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 11:23 PM
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I wouldn't mind talking to even an actual bot, if they had something good to say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 08:26 PM
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That's not a problem for me. I don't think people losing hypothetical employment over AI is worth going on about, and I don't think the use of AI 'being bad (as in not performant)' is worth going on about, just criticize the badness itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 06:59 PM
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He can claim it, but men don't claim he represents them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 06:20 PM
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And do you really think that male advocacy movements are above criticism as well? But Tate is not that. It's like banks needing to criticize crypto or they lose legitimacy. It's not something they did or give credence to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 04:52 PM
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They claim to stand for men, but are actually working against them, effectively hijacking the movement. That would be true if they were recognized by MRAs as being their leaders, but they're not. Tate is no Elam.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 03:46 PM
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Men are getting more suspected, more charged, more convicted, longer sentences, more prison, more lethal sentences. For the same crimes. A glaring example is sex crimes, where women are not even looked at as potentially being criminals. It's unthinkable to suspect a woman, even one who works with toddlers and infants. Men are screened like they're all pedophiles, but women, they're angels, they would never do that, no need to look. Either you're protecting infants like hawks, from everyone, or y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 01:48 PM
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Are you also saying that you’re afraid that in the future, society will be a matriarchy where men are subjugated? It was an oligarchy where everyone is subjugated (it still is). No 50% of the population subjugated the other. It could only happen in matters of race, and would result in an Attack on Titan style situation, where holocaust-tier tyranny gets reversed the first time they can, or one of them wipes the other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 05:14 AM
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Just look at stats like schooling, what happens in the justice system, homelessness, mental health, suicide and all the fun stats when people check to see which race is oppressed. Stats that miraculously don't matter, in this case, because billionaires and CEOs with a dick exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 05:10 AM
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Like how hell someone who is too unpopular, can become martyr? Saint Coloman was lynched out of being thought of as a spy (he wasn't, but that's not popular if they lynch you), but villagers decided his tomb was doing miracles, so he was canonized for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 05:06 AM
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have some privileges because of their WHITENESS and FEMININITY, resulting in them being infantilized Being infantilized isn't just when you're found innocent before being scrutinized. The other negatives don't apply here. An infantilized child has the autonomy of a woman in the middle-east (got to ask permission to do tons of things, to male family members), not the autonomy of a land owner woman in the US south (can do whatever, on her own). When you're overlooked as a wrongdoer, you're getting…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 02:40 AM
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Take DEI for instance. It’s treating a symptom (underrepresentation of minorities in schools and workplaces) instead of the root cause (systemic inequality). Treating symptoms can help but is never sufficient enough And by using quotas, its actually counter productive. The sentiment of 'I should help people like me before everyone' vs 'I should help everyone equally' was losing steam, and now its apparently bigoted to be sex blind or color blind. We're falling to pre-Martin Luther King stuff.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 02:30 AM
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Feminism responds to inequality by trying to level it and then after this, tries to reproduce a superior inferior pattern in what they perceive to be the reverse of the previous state, even if it wasn't. That's how you can get wtf versions of 'female supremacy' like in Sliders. That are nothing like the reverse of even 1800s or Roman empire 'patriarchy'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 02:11 AM
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Why do we hold feminists to such a high standard but ignore the Male advocates? Because the feminism has institutional power. Male advocates of any kind, don't. So they can misuse their lawn-tier power, and nobody will hear about it. While feminism can misuse its Western-spawning power, and you get Spain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 02:28 PM
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Until discussions direct policy I don't care about them. When they do direct policy, they're the oppressor.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 11:20 PM
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It's perfectly possible to discuss gender inequality without pointing issues and generalising an entire gender, but feminism (and MRAs to be honest) hasn't been able to do that. Feminism directs UN policy (feed disaster women only), made VAWA happen and violencia de genero (instead of a gender neutral version), Duluth model, and more. What MRA-started policy exists to oppress women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 07:37 PM
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I don’t see how feminists are expecting men to risk their health, safety and lives. Feminism mostly criticises the military. Defending women from bad men, is also expected. Even women they don't know, against men they may not be stronger than.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 02:40 PM
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The Culture, headed by a neutral and benevolent self-aware AGI. Not owned by any corporation. It would de-facto own whatever empire is top honcho, and be un-hackable, and un-corruptable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 02:57 AM
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Engels just argues that monogamy was forced upon women, while men could have extramarital affairs or in many cultures, could have multiple wives. Arguing that billionaires are having polygamy is not saying its a widespread privilege. And historically, the people who could or did have them, were equivalent to today's billionaires.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 01:07 AM
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Convince Seth Rogen to be onboard and that the left was taken over by false flags who are against actual leftism, and you could get stuff as mainstream as The Boys on your side. It currently portrays it as MAGA haters vs the caricature of safe space leftist (caricature by the right wing people) leftists-woke who are actually good, but tarred by the right. If he could recognize that DEI, quotas, patriarchy/toxic masculinity, 'believe all women' and 'me too' is not the way forward, but divisive to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 12:36 AM
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Men have no incentive to focus their efforts on anything else than 'being better professionally'. If they do anything else, its really out of their own will, and not anything anyone is rewarding. If they decide to go in karting hobby, its not because the kartiarchy made them do it, they just wanted to, probably. Women have incentives that are competing with professional advancement. Namely, being closer to their children (if they want to have any). An option pretty much always closed to men. Bec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 06:52 AM
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I was raised as male, but I didn't know what masking meant, and did not do it. I suffered accordingly, and learned to not show emotions and be less candid to strangers. I am usually direct enough and do not care what the consequences of my directness are, if I view it as justified. I am not callous to others, I am not insulting, and I am fair to what I feel, not exaggerating. Therefore its on them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 01:54 AM
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Men simply are better at achieving these things than women More efficient maybe, not better. Men have no incentive to do otherwise, women do. Therefore more men would do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 01:46 AM
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I don't think its a dependance, as much as an opportunity, if that's the thing you want. Like the wife of Jeff Bezos. She has between 30 and 40 billion now. And for all we know, she didn't do anything significant worth even a fraction of that money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 01:35 AM
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rather than through her own work or status? That’s not necessarily a privilege so much as a form of dependence? Not any more than his. You think hard work results in success? Nope. Luck and wealth does. TV Trope Hard work hardly works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 01:20 AM
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whereas women’s economic position was often structurally tied to a husband or father She could more easily marry wealth. If he tried, the family of the bride would oppose it. This is regardless of motive for marrying. If it results in moving up class-wise, there is 10x more scrutiny on the groom than the bride.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 12:55 AM
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Yet they were also unpaid, expected and carried less authority than roles associated with masculinity. What kind of authority did an engineer have in an election? A party? I'm not sure what you even mean by authority. And I picked the high tier male-associated role. If I went with cleaning technician, or handyman, it would be more average. tended to rank lower in terms of power and social status Women didn't need to have high social status to earn the right to mate. It was at best a bonus. Most …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 12:37 AM
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I'm sure sometimes one reminds these people of others, specific people or ideas of people? But doesn't it seem an awful lot like sometimes it's a way to get one to stop being a "problem" and get back to being a doormat? Its the way you did it. To not seem 'aggressive' you need to employ subtle stuff that means completely different stuff than what it says. And that doesn't come easily (or at all) to aspies, who prefer being direct and honest. I'm the analytic kind of aspie. I don't do social comm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/26 12:20 AM
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A lot of liars are never taken to court either. Even when they know its false, in the name of not making it harder for future (female) victims. The state itself refuses to prosecute a slamdunk perjury and false accusation case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 11:55 PM
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dilute not deluded
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 11:39 PM
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That being said, I would imagine women have larger support groups and more hobbies and such. Whereas men tend to not be encouraged to do any of that as much The support group probably, the hobbies, I don't know what proportion, but a significant amount of women don't have hobbies. Following trends and watching what the mainstream says is good on TV, and going out in the trendy places, is not a hobby. Or at least not to the majority of people who do it. I think women are largely raised to make 'b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 02:14 PM
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that the people that don't find me uninteresting double negative means the opposite you think it does
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 02:06 PM
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Going blackout drunk is how depressed men tend to cope, and that's not counted as an attempt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 02:27 AM
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I don't know if they really had those expectations, but I know in America, the expectation was soft. And didn't come with deference. It was really mutual expectations of roles being filled. Women 'serving and obeying men' was just in wedding vows. To be able to lord it over her, he needed to be rich, or really influent. Not just male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 02:26 AM
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I'd say government-approved, knowingly. Like the lack of DV shelters despite stats saying victims are ~40%, is by design, malicious. And by the greatest authority of your country (I don't mean 1 person, I mean the government). Canada, UK, Spain, US and more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 03:01 AM
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But remember, its men who are raised to be entitled. Men going on dates with women, not only expect women to be perfectly made up and gracious, but to pay for the date, organize it, get good conversations going and make it unforgettable. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 11:20 PM
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No one reports a car slowing down to drive next to them while staring. Not even men, not even in surveys. Men also don't report being insulted on the internet or in games as harassment. Men are conditioned to take it, not complain about it. By people telling them to grow a pair whenever they do complain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 07:20 PM
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Yes, but not 3x less. It's not like most men are living outside.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 07:17 PM
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and we were all laughing at Trump having his fake news and alternative facts. Now the left works on 'my truth'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 07:14 PM
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And that is just not how that works, I'm not a fringe of good people, the people you see are the fringe of bad people and their ideologies are not even brought up when people discuss feminism. They don't have to be brought up, they're the leaders. They're the one saying that equal measures is not enough, because of past historical differences, to justify as 2 tier DV system like in Spain. It's not a fringe that passed VAWA or the UK equivalent either, instead of a gender neutral law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 07:03 PM
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When a man is quiet, it makes for awkward silences, and hyperagency says that's him being boring. When a woman is quiet, it makes for awkward silences, and hyperagency says that's him not being interesting or charismatic enough. Or on the other hand, if he tries, and she still stays silent, it's him being a brute when she obviously wants a quiet time. Don't forget you need to read minds. It's in the hyperagency manual.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 05:43 PM
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Also, can anybody explain to me the social acceptability of this expectation for men to be "interesting", and to morally condemn them if they fail? I see this CONSTANTLY. This weird pressure that's constantly expressed but never examined or elaborated on for men to be "interesting", and being uninteresting is talked about as if it's a moral failing. I can't wrap my head around how any argument describing how this is ok should possibly work, and yet it's everywhere. That sounds worse than the pre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 05:18 PM
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The question that arises in my head, though, is not why women show such a strong in group preference, but rather why men don't? The powers that be conspire to keep men from doing this. Nowadays its by using feminism to put a wedge between men and try to shame them out of having any solidarity, because of being 'oppressor class'. Historically, solidarity between men has been considered very dangerous, and measures like shaving the hair and removing individuality, are all about 'taming' the men. S…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 02:27 PM
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and the channel rep says its not actually bashing men, its saying we talk too much about helping men, which is incredibly ironic coming from feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 02:19 PM
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It's likely that men would do the same, but nobody would decide to move stuff around for them. Like men doing false accusations of crime. If they thought they would be believed and even better, get away with it, they would do it at the same rate as women. Evilness and opportunity crimes know no demographics. But the system might facilitate it for some. By having these 'women don't lie' thing, or disbelieving men can be victims (so good luck accusing someone falsely, if they wouldn't even believe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/26 07:11 PM
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Having omnipotence could drive a lot of people to make everything great also. I dont see your point. It's not evil people who get powers, and do evil. It's people who have the opportunity to use power, who influence the most. And its way easier to destroy, profiteer and pillage than create, make things better and build. So even if 50% of people who got power did good, and 50% did bad (or 90% did nothing, 5% did good, 5% did bad)...it would still result in a net negative, because the good done co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 09:30 PM
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Thats not an explanation. Having the means to do a lot of stuff you didn't before, can corrupt people who would mind their own business if they didn't think they had the opportunity and ability. Having omnipotence could drive a lot of people to more or less genocide and playing Godzilla on cities, just because they can. Doubly so if no one can make them see consequences for it. It's not unique to any ideology or any side. I'm amazed the world of My Hero Academia didn't devolve into pure chaos, g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 08:37 PM
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Sex can be a positive or a negative, and race depends on the ethnicity of the power players (and can change, in 100 years, it could be totally different). But being rich will always be the #1 thing until money doesn't have influence on anything. Where we would essentially all be on UBI.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 07:24 PM
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Power corrupts, its not just corrupted (initially) people that get power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 06:58 PM
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This community believes its the oligarchy, where being rich and influential has primacy over other axis. And having a dick is not even in the same realm of enabling it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 06:33 PM
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Its also funny how back in the 90's Erin Pizzy You mean 70s?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 04:50 PM
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This outlines a clear open disconnect in belief systems. It recognizes the context around what it means to be a "good male partner' and what socially is rewarded as a "good male partner." It also utilizes multiple "modes" of social expectations. I think the disconnect is that physical attraction, money and status are primary attractors. And then, once you got the relationship started, this is when personality, intelligence and kindness matters. So if you're ugly, you might be the most kind and a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/26 04:50 PM
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which is an especially difficult shift because it challenges not only feminist theory but also the multi-billion-dollar domestic violence industry that is designed around gendered assumptions They shouldn't have happened, so I don't mind toppling that edifice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/26 03:29 PM
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principle of human agency to women Funny how that works for prisons. It's cancel women's prisons, rather than make sentences equal (which would be more and longer sentences for women, or less and shorter for men - whichever you prefer, or a mix of both). Seems agency is bad when its consequences. But men probably earned their term in prison, because hyperagency. No circumstances there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/26 02:28 PM
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If some people are more equal than others, it is fighting for unequal treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/26 02:26 PM
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Making the law 'neutral' sounds good on paper, but in practice, it often leads to the same 'colorblind' approach that allowed these specific crimes to be ignored for decades. You mean how it typically ignores male victims of DV even more than female ones, and how that's not a problem for feminism, but something to reinforce institutionally? Why is feminism having such issues with equal treatment under law? Suppose they make a program for poor people tomorrow in NYC. They don't have to make it fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/26 06:56 AM
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structural nature of gender-based violence That's justifying sexism as saying it should be there. Feminism pushes for these laws not to 'punish men,' but to ensure that a historically ignored form of violence is met with a specialized, effective state response." If they made it equal under law, it would still presumably take care of it. Even if they're somehow right, and men are less often victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/26 06:21 AM
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Violencia de genero law in Spain, adopted in 2004, and found 'too easy on bad men' by the feminist parties there, who want even more stringent and unequal laws for DV. It's a blatantly unequal law that treats DV as something men do to women, de jure, and punishes men more and women less, for the same crimes. Women have their own special courts for bringing cases up, they can get monetary compensation, regardless of the veracity of the claim (even if it was found false later), and the accused wil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/26 05:16 AM
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It took a lot for feminists to make the progress they have, some of it is fragile, and we’d prefer a non zero sum game. Then why did feminists pull fire alarms on a talk about men's suicide, or prevent the forming of men's groups in Ryerson university? Male advocates are only defending themselves from being assaulted and treated like pariah. After trying to talk it over to no avail, save being called a MAGA incel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/26 01:14 AM
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I was in school in the 1980s and 1990s. I did not notice boys being favored. Arguably, I also did not notice men hatred, but I did see more men being disciplined.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/26 03:39 PM
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If you didn't decide which category you belong to, its arbitrary. Like handedness, hair color, eye color, region of birth, economical class of parents etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/26 02:34 AM
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but having a penis isn't arbitrary You mean its a choice given at birth, so you accept all the contractual obligations knowingly?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/26 12:25 AM
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That depends if its favoring boys, or the top tier boys. Big difference, because the top 3% of a class of 35, is one person. If that one person is favored, it does nothing for the others. Even if the top person being favored is almost always a boy. Basically, that boy probably didn't need that favoring, if he's Sheldon Cooper tier genius. But the struggling boy did need it, and got nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 08:47 PM
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Boys still benefit from disproportionate representation in an area that was established historically. Doctor? Nope. Lawyer? Nope. Only engineer left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 07:46 PM
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Even if a man thinks he can win the fight, he might be scared of having to hurt someone else, or deal with the medical, legal, social, psychological, and professional consequences of being in a fight. In a boxing match, you don't have to worry "Will I keep my job when my boss finds out?" or "What happens when the police arrive?" In a violent encounter in real life, I did have to consider the full consequences of my actions, and ultimately chose not to fight back even when I was fully justified i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 07:32 PM
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Forced marriage mostly mattered for nobles, since peasants didn't marry, until the church made it mandatory. And in forced marriage, the groom has about no choice either. Muslims with little girls married off with old men is a weird localized phenomenon, not a generality of arranged marriage. And arranged marriage outside nobility, is a proposition. Parents play matchmaker. You meet, maybe you think its worth it, or not. Your decision.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 02:14 AM
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where women and girls take up less space and walk in ways that are less assertive and narrower in motion Walking like a cat is not an imposition by patriarchy, its a way to show your bum when you walk, a form of strutting. And comes a bit more naturally due to the position of hips.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 12:24 AM
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The seed of many of these institutions was the patriarchal family with the father as the head Spokesperson, not decider. He is mandated to take responsibility, and communicate in the name of the family. In no way does that make him unilaterally decide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/26 11:35 PM
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Frankly, if I was in this position, I'd reconsider if I even want to be with someone who thinks hatred for my gender is just fine and dandy, and me defending it or advocating for it is grounds for dismissal. That's the equivalent of telling women to not be uppity so they'd find a husband. It's not a guarantee they wouldn't find one, and its basically telling someone to play against their own interests.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 04:14 PM
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This is usually arguing against people who say whites are the only racists or evil people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 03:01 PM
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Egalitarianism implies the field is already equal, it isn’t Egalitarianism only implies the goal is actual equality. Not the starting point. And you're right the field isn't equal, men receive just about no services (including in preventing homelessness, DV) despite spending more in taxes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 04:11 AM
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Even if that was a natural tendency, it will be greatly reinforced when the government-tier propaganda everyone is raised with says that: sexism is a one way street, men are oppressors, equality is only about raising women up. It's like going 500 years ago and trying to talk about heliocentrism as a fact publicly. The extremely strong establishment of the time really really didn't like being told its wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/26 05:54 PM
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People were not suspicious of men working with children in the past (~80+ years ago). At least not more than women working with children. They did think men were less suitable and less good at it, but not that they had nefarious reasons for being there. The same for a lot of other cultures, who didn't go into gendered pedophile scares. So its not inevitable, or evidence-based state of affair. It's fearmongering, and culture specific, and timeline specific.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/26 05:47 PM
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Growing up, I noticed that girls are often strongly encouraged to perform well in school. They’re told to work hard, prove themselves, and outshine expectations. Meanwhile, boys are sometimes raised with a more relaxed attitude toward academics like “he’ll figure it out” or “boys will be boys.” That's also the difference between Jewish and East Asia parenting, vs North American parenting. They have high expectations and will push you to succeed in the first, and expect it to 'just happen' in the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/26 02:23 PM
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but the tiny elite is also composed of men And they don't propose any pro penis-people policies, so its a net minus if on top of it it counts as 'there's people like you on top, what are you complaining about?' as a strike against having a movement to get equal rights. It's not like those majority men people made circumcision illegal on anything but consenting adults. Or made DV something that should be solved for all victims, and not half. Or passed VAWA to replace a gender neutral law. Or made…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/26 04:07 AM
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less than 0.01%
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 06:45 PM
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How much do they represent men demographically speaking? 0.0001%?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 02:45 PM
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I don't think she believes that men are innately perverted, or that that's what's making them trans. I didn't say it was about the cause of being trans. She just believes men are perverts, period. So trans women in women's spaces, is admitting perverts with women. Because all men are. This is essentialist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/26 05:01 PM
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IDK enough about the details on JK Rowling's stance, but I don't think she identifies as a radical feminist or believes in gender essentialism. Regarding trans women, it seems she does. Sees them as not actually women, and as perverted, because of course men are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/26 02:42 PM
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They've found 2000 ways not to entice participation of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/26 01:37 AM
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Anyone who whines about "wokeness" or considers themselves "anti-woke" is cutting out quite a massive chunk of American leftist principles No. Quotas is not how you go about equality. You change attitudes over time (and we were fucking there before 2010). Instituting quotas and policies to outright ignore one demographic because 'there is enough of them', will cause massive backlash, and NOT fix whatever problem you thought there was. Affirmative action was already a step in the wrong direction,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 02:48 PM
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Given how high the share of IPH that is made by gunshot, which is very probably specific to the US, I'd wager it's significantly different elsewhere. No, its similar in Canada, where having a gun is very hard. I've never seen a real gun not owned by the local police. In other countries, I'd wager "being beaten to death" is a more common way of dying from a partner among all IPH, which would make it much more likely to be killed by a male partner. Knives are lethal regardless if you could use a m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/26 02:41 PM
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(Star Trek was always woke) Star Trek was always progressive. Woke is heavy handed propaganda passing itself off as writing. Imagine Christian rock. It has a message, and traditional rock fans would find it a bad fit for their tastes in rock, usually. Same for sci-fi. Having a heavy-handed message instead of actual sci-fi writing, makes it a chore to watch. And the message isn't the presence of 'diverse cast'. The message is talking about the diversity of the characters all the time, as if that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 09:31 PM
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Everyone not on-board with the woke stuff, like anyone criticizing Starfleet Academy, is a racist and fascist, didn't you hear? And by woke stuff, I mean horrible writing that centers nowadays problems in fiction. SGU was bad because of this too. Sci-fi went away there, it became a soap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 08:43 PM
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I bet you if they asked women the same question about men, the % would be the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 02:32 PM
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I think the general trend of the feminist left of the past 10 years has been towards a belief in credential-based elitism, where people deemed more intelligent than others by measure of certification and publication prestige get to be dictator-lite over everyone else. Something like bureaucratic rule by a philosopher class rather than a philosopher king. And frankly it disgusts me. I hate authoritarianism more than anything else in this life. And they call everyone else fascist, ironically (well…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 02:24 PM
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Why the hell would they say that? All because we are fighting for the male victims of rape and abuse? Because we want to save men from suicide and the mental health crisis? Because feminist propaganda says that men have already 'all the rights' and could only ever want one thing under 'men's rights', its to reverse those of women. So anything MRAs are doing is seen falsely, as pretending to be for rights (like father custody, circumcision), while just waiting to destroy women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 07:08 PM
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Trying to force equality is not going to solve that subtle discrimination, and it's going to introduce very heavy-handed discrimination on top of it. Yes, DEI will come off as discriminatory, and not at all fixing the upstream issue. Just instituting systemic sexism and racism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 11:43 PM
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Women were denied credit cards until the 70's Nobody used credit cards in the 60s, either. If you were a rich woman, you could have credit cards at any point they existed in. But would the businesses you go in even use them? Even in the early 90s, you could run a tab at the local convenience store. My mom did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 11:39 PM
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Men are suffering underneath roles and expectations that they themselves baked into their socialization Men are not a hive mind, they are not The Borg. When man A does something, man P is not complicit because penis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 09:39 PM
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With men, it’s roughly 50/50 split of male vs female perpetrators its 80/20
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 06:33 PM
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However, women are disproportionately the victims of sexual assault Like 55%, not 99% which propaganda would have you think. it’s almost always male perpetrated Much like SA of men, its propably mostly heterosexual by statistics data size. But it's important not to invisibilize female perpetrators on female victims. Who are often made invisible by penetration-focused and penis-focused definitions. Or by 'patriarchy' wording.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 06:32 PM
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With women, it’s much more homogeneous, as the rape of women is perpetrated by men in 98.5% of the cases. Well, if they need penetration to count it as rape, they are also likely missing a lot of female perpetrators with female victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 06:26 PM
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The female version is just a modifier of the 'default male version.' That's grammar, not personhood. Regardless of how the language is, if it has gendered names or pronouns, one will be seen as 'default' for grammatical reasons. Like which works when you talk of a group without specifying gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 05:04 PM
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Ah yes, the female surgeons in 1900 were considered retarded children. Must be why they were allowed to practice medicine?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 04:52 PM
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They'd have this attitude regardless of their respective size, its an ingrained notion of women-are-precious (not women are useless/weak, this is irrelevant - the Prime Minister is protected regardless if they're a black belt in whatever) and men-can-handle-themselves, where of course, men can't retaliate or defend themselves, and authorities will do nothing either. They'd react the same way if it was a skinny 100 lbs guy and a muscley and tall 200 lbs girl who does MMA.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/26 08:37 PM
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Men commit most violence and sexual assault and women have to suffer all kinds of awful stuff at our hands. If men commit most violence, even only counting physical violence, the kind directed at women is a vast minority, and the majority of violence is in perpetration of crimes or gang rivalries (arguably the result of lack of resources, poorness, and the responsibility to provide - and lack of safety nets). Sexual assault seems to be about equal, or very slightly more women victims and men per…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/26 02:55 AM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/26 02:31 AM
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Although I personally am not a feminist nor agree with many of their concepts and doctrine, I have to admit they (or at least used to) have done some genuinely good things for women's unique issues. For DV and SA, they went about it the wrong way. Theorizing patriarchal violence by tyrannic macho men as the reason DV and SA exist at all, gendering the phenomenon as something that predominantly happens to women, even when stats disagree with that. And proposing solution like 'tell men to stop bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 06:55 PM
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and those massive gender privileges are not one sided
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 03:24 PM
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I think that is because men are usually stronger than women and police force see that as a threat. Or that regardless of size, they've been conditioned to see women as not-a-threat. Not because he thinks they're weaker, but because he's been conditioned to think they're always lawful-good, and thus can't do evil, like beating him, or trying to kill him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/26 03:46 AM
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Being on time is now considered 'acting white', by progressives. Said of the Smithsonian museum. White supremacists would probably not have said it, even if they thought whites (the in-group) were better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/26 04:22 PM
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That's not unique to conservatives. Cakism is on every side of the isle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/26 03:20 PM
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she's right leaning and expects traditional gender roles for men Don't want to scare you, but its everyone who expects this. Left, or right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/26 03:19 PM
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that doesn't necessitate men's economic dominance over women. Which never really happened. Outside lords who keep their lordship after a separation, most men are not 'dominating over women'. They're earning more (because of a combination of choices, and pressures on him), but giving about as much if not more to their wives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/26 05:51 AM
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With that said, is there something to the arguement that "cultural critics" who don't actually care about this thing or that thing, suddenly deciding to enter it to make their project for cultural analysis and how "problematic" it is? Yes. They went beyond Sarkessianing the hobby into SBIing the hobby, and uglifying female characters in games (as devs and writers etc - see Veilguard too) because its perceived as being for chuds and sexist men (sexist for appreciating the female form, mind you), …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 08:13 PM
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The actual content of the insults towards nerdy men are generally assuming "shitty" because of their nerdiness. It's just world fallacy type insults. If you're unpopular, its definitely because of your deficient morality. Because all saintly people are super popular, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 08:11 PM
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has any other choice to maintain its sovereignty. conscript women too, that's also a choice, or conscript no one
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 04:46 PM
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As far as the Russians are concerned these so-called Ukrainians are just confused russians that need to be shown the truth. This is as nakedly genocidal as it gets. I'd prefer to ask the person if they prefer to die or be forced to be part of another nation. Not force them to die for it, regardless of how strongly held this belief is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 03:09 PM
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But not once have I ever heard any other guy open up about it. Like, literally never. Why would they if they expect this kind of shutting them right off? Would you start talking if the only expected response is to get punched in the face? I wouldn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 03:35 PM
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While knowing that, I've never met a single other guy who has gone through it Guys are trained by everything around them to not see it as abuse. Laws, policies and authorities highlighting only female victims, talking about consent as something only men need to get, talking about groping as something only men can do, etc. A male victim is unlikely to recognize the act they were victim of as sexual assault or rape. And everyone else they might tell about is also unlikely to see it that way. Inclu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 02:37 PM
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and I openly challenged toxic masculinity wherever I encountered it. You mean expectations placed on men by others? Like someone calling a man chicken for refusing a risky thing, or a pussy for not fighting to defend a woman's honor he didn't provoke a conflict for?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:33 AM
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Biology is female dominated, engineering is not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:30 AM
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For another type of harm look at legislation targeted at women. There aren’t many (any?) equivalents going the other way much as some women might want to. There is legislation forgetting men. Like not having reproductive rights, or genital integrity rights. It's the same as targeting men negatively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 12:05 AM
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It's a human tendency to want safe targets to dehumanize. Possibly to vent, or to bully, or to use to gain advancements and promotions, if not justify employment. The natural xenophobia of humans meant it was pretty much always foreigners and visible weirdos, handicapped people. But feminism has created an underclass that's safe to hate out of whole cloth, much like nazism did. Much like nazism where Jewish people are treated as being the masters of the world, and dangerous, but also weak and in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 09:31 PM
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there is also stuff like how men dieting is “hegemonic masculinity” and about some sense of “dominance” or whatever nonsense It's easy, start from the premise that men are mustache-twirling villains, and then imagine a mustache-twirling villain's motivation for doing things. No need to think of actual people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 09:27 PM
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My favorite example is that only 20% of vegans are men because men feel like pussies if they don’t eat meat Maybe its because meat actually tastes good. Ortegas in SNW made my point better than I could, saying she could fight (physically, sparring match) her brother over the argument about it, for bacon - when he was mind-melded to agree to the Vulcan pov that vegan is better. I'd all be for an alternative to animal husbandry that results in similar enough taste (and similar enough costs, I'm no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 07:20 PM
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I'd add a comma in your last sentence. Probably after shit. It changes the meaning when without, makes it edgelord: 'likes because its inconvenient'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 06:17 PM
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The start has to be to acknowledge that the patriarchy exists because last time I checked most presidents were men. Last time I checked you had to be rich or chosen by the rich (and not a single one, a plurality, like the whole DNC - able to cancel Sanders because he was too good to the plebs) to be president, and this matters a lot more than genitals. An oligarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 04:21 PM
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Futureman?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/26 10:49 PM
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You know damn well that male teachers have left the jobs for the last 30 years or so. That corresponds with the demonization of men as perverts/pedos for simply working with children (regardless if they were personally accused, its a hostile climate). Which was absent or extremely lower before. Maybe men didn't rush to become babysitters in the 1950s, and maybe women scoffed at their assumed caring abilities. But nobody thought they were doing it for evil sexual pedo reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/26 07:33 PM
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Not only did they have to be worker drones, they had to be worker drones for worse pay and less rights, and more danger of violence against their partners, with zero representation in the law. For these reasons, feminism was an important movement at the time. Worse pay is arguable, though I think it was pay by how much work you do (not hourly), and some of it was better doable with higher strength. Higher risk of DV, I don't think so. Not more than before, and not more than men. Representation i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/26 07:28 PM
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(But not so far back that we're talking about ancient humans, more like the 1950s) they genuinely did have it really bad and were actually mistreated and not given the same rights. How do we reconcile this with the view that women didn't always have it worse off than men? Men were also not given the same rights, and still aren't. The right to social services, to be seen as a victim when they are, to a fair justice system that doesn't presume 'the man did it' or 'the man made her do it' without p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 08:08 PM
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This, so much this. I'm so tired of the radicals making it sound like the only problem men face is hurt feelings while women are being hunted down on the street daily for being women. They probably meant it like that's us men's advocate doing marketing badly by saying women hurt the feelings of men. And not feminists saying that this is what men's issues amount to. I agree more with your take.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 07:50 PM
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You mean having fire alarms pulled on a suicide prevention talk? How is that academia?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 07:44 PM
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Men are less conflict averse than women, this is why efforts to control and prevent organization focus on men. For women you can just design social norms, and the natural conformity that is going with the female gender role (appear aggreeable, backstab if you need to) prevents open conflict. Men are also less averse to being perceived as socially less valuable. Because for some, that's no loss. They don't have a baseline of valuableness they lost by going for nerd or geek stuff. They started at …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 07:18 PM
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Its claims often challenge prevailing assumptions (that men already have power, already benefit, are morally suspect) Those are feminist doctrine assumptions, not natural neutral ones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 06:35 PM
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Male advocacy may require humanity to transcend a part of our caveman brain that we haven't yet overcome. If we would follow the 'unfit people should die in a ditch', people past the age of 50 or 60 would be incinerated right off, handicapped people at birth would be terminated, and any genetic disease that is costly as a society to work with (trisomy, autism, and more) would have them "mercy-killed" while very young. Menopaused women would also have the same sacrifice as men, no longer helped. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 06:08 AM
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so that's why so many men refuse to care about other mens struggles It's because they're fed the "men are oppressors, bad stuff happens only to women" from birth. And active suppression of men's groups/advocacy when they happen anyways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 12:27 AM
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They're also misogynists in thinking that women need DEI and extra help to compete with men. Misogynists for thinking that home labor is inferior and has no value. Misogynists for thinking feminity is inferior to masculinity, objectively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 06:24 PM
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chances are “we” were under a “matriarchal” system longer than a “patriarchal” system But a 'patriarchal system' wasn't pro-man, even in the past. And when people say "its a man's world", I can only agree in that it is a world most designed to use/abuse the labor of men, and punish male criminals. The world is misadapted to use/abuse the labor of women, or punish female criminals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 06:22 PM
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Short of a video, you can't prove you didn't self-inflict whatever you have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 03:55 AM
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Only because of shelters. Strength difference or not, it had parity before shelters. So its people who snap after not being able to escape mostly, on both sides.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 03:49 AM
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the stronger victim ever snaps and fights back.... That wouldn't happen if they had shelters to escape to. Or would happen a lot less. With kids its a toss up. Especially if you know the law will side with her anyways (both for the DV and the custody of kids she may be abusing) .
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 09:31 PM
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Feminist ideology defines itself as powerless, and an ideology that claims no power never has to answer for the negative outcomes it helps create. It removes its own perception of agency, while having plenty, since feminism is the legacy institutions today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 08:34 PM
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Severance is interesting because there is a plot twist. His wife is presumed dead 2 years ago, but he sees her at his work periodically, without knowing since his work persona is not his home persona. And her shrink persona is also not her home persona so she doesn't recognize him either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 05:08 PM
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That's the actual logic of online insults in multiplayer gaming that is used to destabilize or trash talk opponents. You adapt your go to insults to your target demographic, and they don't have to be true or really bad, just impactful. It's troll logic, and the ones doing it are professional trolls, or 13 years old. But of course, when its used against female players, its misogyny, and not just trash talk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 03:47 PM
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What's funny, is I think the woke micro-aggressions is over the top, because it takes stuff no one ever intended as insulting and over-reads into it so that you have to be an omniscient reader to not get a fail grade on this. Unless you give your in-group a pass because its oppressed, or whichever group you target is the oppressor. Then you can do whatever. That's the same as churches calling murder horrible...unless its a saint war, then its all fine, take this grenade.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:45 AM
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ICE agents are generally insecure men who want a sense of power Unless they told you that, this is projection. You personally think or have heard that evil men are evil because x, so you want to attack them because x, and not the evil thing they do. That could work if it was specifically why this person was this way (trying to reform them, not bully them), but if you simply estimate that it is because they're evil + short, you're actually worse than the MAGA guys at stereotyping the enemies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:41 AM
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in 1810 France, being 5'6" was not short. It was not tall either, but we're definitely not Danny Devito tier. In 2025 Japan, 5'6" (for a man) is also average, not short. 5'6" for a woman in Japan would actually be quite tall, but barely above average in NA.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:35 AM
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also he appears short because he acts like a rat That's projection. You associate bad traits with shortness (in men anyways), therefore, when a short man exhibits those traits, your confirmation bias tells you you're right, even if he's 0.1% of short men. That's similar to the Bailey Blanchard typology of trans women. You're either boy-crazy and were homo before transitioning, and transitioned to get more dick, or you're in love with your female self-image, since you're not interested in dick (e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:23 AM
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You don't use an EMP against murder robots when half of the good guys are regular upstanding robots. Murderbot is a good upstanding robot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:19 AM
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No, mock them for having what they look down upon. Mock their insecurities. It's mocking what YOU look down upon. It might be funny if it was something only they (fascists) cared about, but its not. A big part of fascism is its appeal to aesthetic. That's the Glorious Leader, not the peon on the ground. Its for the Stalin, not the Gulag lieutenant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:17 AM
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Do you want to know more?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:11 AM
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The idea is that these men act this way because they're insecure But its projection. Short men are stereotyped as angry and overcompensating even when they're not. The very moment they assert themselves like any normal human being with boundaries should, they'd get called Napoleon syndrome. It's very unlike the Bossy girl thing. Because unlike what is asserted, no one likes the asshole male boss. The guy in Office Space who comes at 4:45 pm to tell you to do overtime tomorrow? Yea, its like ever…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:00 AM
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They'd ironically probably get it if he laughed at her for being unladylike or a slut. Suddenly it would be misogynist and horrible, even if she did bad stuff. But when its men, they can't see it. No bad tactics, only bad targets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 01:59 AM
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If the criminals are not just killing other criminals, but also random men. They would not kill random women. Ergo, they're killing them BECAUSE they are men. Androcide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 07:12 PM
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Even if it's impractical? Even if it's a worse outcome? Yes. Or you're basically telling people born with dangly bits that 'tough luck, they should have been born elsewhere/or with a vagina', and that's stupid. You can help, or you can't. You might as well not help the poor because helping middle class has better outcomes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 06:59 PM
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there is also not a "president of feminism" or anything of the sort Sure, but they know what would make you called anti-feminist: wanting to help men, believing in many MRA talking points (about suicide, homelessness, circumcision, justice system, custody), or calling feminism out for inegalitarian policies (like the Duluth Model, the Violencia de genero law). All those get you called The Enemy by pretty much every feminists. You'll also be banned if its their turf. And if you say patriarchy the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 12:09 AM
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This is good policy and we should understand more of it that way, and we can measure it with, say, number of feminicides (a huge topic here in Mexico) or number of reported cases of domestic abuse. Mexico is a fun case, where the murders of men are not 75% but 90% of the total. So its already way worse for men, but somehow all female murders are 'because she was a woman' and none of the male ones are 'because he was a man (or not a woman)'?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 12:05 AM
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Yes, we should not intentionally starve male victims of disaster or war just because of statistics. Equal or bust.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 12:04 AM
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Even if they could charge the perp, stereotypes around who can rape and who does assault are undermining the work of police, and the will of victims to report it. If they even know it was a crime in the first place, since feminism has done so much work gendering SA so we only imagine female victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 12:01 AM
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Just like men's rights matter and overwhelming ARE addressed by feminism Yes, with He for She right? More men servicing women is the solution to justice system inequality! Or maybe its closing prisons for women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 03:14 PM
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Historically, (I'd like to emphasize that first word), men did inherit material wealth throught just being a firstborn male. Supposing there was material wealth to inherit. Most peasants rarely owned their farm. And in my present-day life, I haven't even heard relatives inheriting much if anything. Middle-class people can sometimes not even finish paying their mortgage by the time they die. So renters-forever for the kids.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 03:17 AM
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Soft power existed forever, to the point that many kings, dukes and other manner of aristocrats, Roman senators and so on, were just following the wishes of their wives or mothers. With plausible deniability, since they didn't have the executive position. Similarly, 'head of household' is just the figurehead, not the decision maker. It's the person who tells outsiders about familial decisions, not makes them. It's up to that family how organized they are, but it was rarely the tyrannical husband…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 02:04 AM
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It is just not comparable to the absolute horror that is FGM. We're on your side, we won't say that the removal of the foreskin is comparable, because it just isn't. The most common type of FGM, which is also forbidden everywhere in the West, is a pinprick of the genitals, to draw 1 drop of blood. No sewing, no butchering, no nothing. Removing the foreskin of a 1 day newborn strapped to a torture device, is 100x worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 01:59 AM
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Muslim is one of the biggest religions in the world, and they pretty much all do it to boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 08:00 PM
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In Israel and India, feminists pushed against reconizing female perpetrated rape. Men can still rape men I guess. But women can't rape men. in the US, Mary Koss worked against recognizing female-perpetrated male rape (the most prevalent for male victims) as rape, giving it its own category (made to penetrate), and pushing to make it a footnote and not a front stat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 07:10 PM
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I've never known a single woman, feminist or otherwise, to argue against patriarchy theory. When they do, they're no longer considered feminist, but anti-feminist, by pretty much every other feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 02:46 PM
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Who says feminists don’t want equal culpability? The feminists, amongst them those in UK, asking to close women's prisons and institutionalize leniency on female accused. And why treat the most extreme or policy-level examples as representative of what feminists as people or as an analytic tradition actually believe? It's done by feminists in power It's not opposed by other feminists, or women writ large
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 11:51 PM
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You can't have hypoagency and not be recognized as equally culpable and want to abolish prisons for women only, and even entrench the female privilege of being judged as harmless (lesser sentences) AND get equal representation in C-suites and CEOs and presidents. Hypoagency is incompatible with responsibility. I'm not saying its inevitable, but that feminism is pushing for both (angelism and DEI), and they can't have it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 10:43 PM
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Just because you haven’t “seen” it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening, especially because it can at times be so subtle, so normalized and so deeply ingrained into our culture that you may not even realize it’s occurring. I still often see women around me minimized and treated as inferior, though there is no doubt women globally are subjected to patriarchy as well. Or it could be the reverse happening. Which is why the word patriarchy is laughable. I'm a trans woman, from Canada. And its also night…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 10:29 PM
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I am not infantilized nor treated as inferior on the basis of my gender You live in the Middle-East? Because being treated as inferior for being a woman is not something I've even seen in real life. Mistreatment of men for gendered reasons also typically stems from misogyny and homophobia rather than a true hatred of masculinity or men That's part of the dogma, not reality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 09:25 PM
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for example leadership and promotion gaps This is the cost of being judged as angelic. You're also judged as someone who can't make effective decisions. You always make the moral decision, like its automatic, you'd never be tempted to make one that might be more morally ambiguous. Thus you're a bad leader, cause good leaders can make decisions that are morally ambiguous. They can pick the least-bad-option and not shout 'but I gotta save everyone' which seems like a Japanese anime cliché by now (…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 07:15 PM
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I just don’t think the fact that a framework is currently being flattened or moralized means the underlying structural concepts are wrong or should be abandoned altogether. To me that feels like responding to bad application by discarding useful analytical tools, rather than being clearer about how they should (and shouldn’t) be used. The concepts of there being different roles that are different positions with different costs, without this being an oppressor/oppressed model, can be retained...w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 07:06 PM
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Reducing everything to oligarchy alone doesn’t really explain why those burdens were gendered in the first place rather than randomly distributed? Patriarchy implies that maleness was hierarchically judged as not just more useful, but superior. Patriarchy due to feminism, means male supremacy. If its not even close to that, change the name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 06:59 PM
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If anything conscription is actually a strong argument against abandoning concepts like patriarchy altogether. Not because patriarchy means “men as a group always benefit” but because it helps explain how for thousands of years power has been concentrated at the top while costs have been pushed downward. There's a word for that: oligarchy. Follow the money, you'll find the puppeteers. Abandoning concepts like patriarchy in favor of flatter or purely symmetrical explanations really risks obscurin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 06:11 PM
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You can have 10 options of domains you have the ability to do, but only 3 that look good on paper to you (wages, conditions, advancement, public contact etc). You don't necessarily go in your best domain, and you definitely can't go in all your good domains.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 05:45 PM
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Some masculine-coded advantages still function as defaults in certain institutional settings (for example assumptions of competence or authority) This is assumed to be universal, but its in specific domains. Ironically, excluding female-dominated domains from this consideration is a form of misogyny. As is also considering that this is a norm present anywhere where women don't dominate. That's also untrue. Women are only half of doctors and half of lawyers, and I wouldn't say a woman would be ig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 05:39 PM
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Misogyny has a specific historical and institutional shape: it’s been embedded in law, religion, economics and social organization in ways that don’t have a symmetrical counterpart for misandry. Conscription already says this isn't true. Also any law or policy that goes easier on women or finds them less guilty, arrests them less, suspects them less of crime, gives them less chance of jail, less jail time, and way less chance of execution. That's also the state, so systemic. And its so widesprea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 05:21 PM
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a type of justice it wants to eliminate a type of injustice
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 05:00 PM
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And I should add that trans men also have the same lack of solidarity as cis men Note that this lack isn't biological in as much as its heavily engineered that way by the social environment finding any men-space to be suspicious at best, and something to de-gender (ie make men sheds not men-only). This is thanks to feminism finding any male association as potentialy evil, because patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 04:46 PM
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If men are simply better at STEM it is sadly impossible to create equality here. It's that men are more interested in the non-medical non-biology part of STEM. Medicine, veterinary and biology are always considered 'not actually science' for some reason. Men are specifically over represented in theoretical science, engineering and maths (statisticians amongst others). Due to interest, not necessarily ability. It's not due to bullying the women out, or because women don't know statisticians exist…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 03:07 PM
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From my time lurking here, people have problem with the liberal or bourgeois type of feminism, not with actual leftist feminism. People here have a problem with Institutional Feminism. The one with the levers of power, the ones in UN women, the ones in NOW, the ones in your Council of Women and Girls, the ones in your Minister for Women. And any significantly large groups that can lobby big enough to overturn a majority decision. Like making the Florida governor veto twice, a bipartisan bill to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 04:38 PM
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Religious righteousness is how we got the previous right wing dominance, in censoring and being able to direct what should be on TV/movies/games etc. Religious righteousness from a different religion doesn't feel different to me. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 04:13 PM
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You know, at some point in history, debate clubs needed you to have actual arguments, be logical, rational. Now you can just call your opponent names and say you win.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 02:55 PM
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Unless you're in that tiny group, for the rest of men, it's actually worse than living under feminism. Feels like its the same as living under feminism, except you don't get called evil for existing. Feminism has grand aspirations for the male gender role, on paper. In practice it asks the exact same as the tradcons do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 05:10 AM
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Feminism from the declaration of sentiments in the 19th century, declared men the enemy, rather than aiming for real equality. It was always retributive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 01:11 AM
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The people in control have a penis (the 0.01%), men are absolutely not in control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 12:52 AM
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If it was 'women' then it wouldn't be just wokeism winning, all movements with women (so all movements) would win.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 12:48 AM
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I'm tired of walking on eggshells around women I don't know, having to be on guard at all times lest anything I say or even do causes offense.. Did you see in The Chair Company? The guy falls off his faulty chair in a presentation, and he gets accused by a female colleague of having engineered it for an upskirt view, gets called to a HR meeting that seems to mostly take his side, yet brings someone to supervise and see if he's creepy in his day to day interactions at work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/26 08:16 PM
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The CIA has done a lot of problematic things but they aren't this all powerful organization manipulating world events on their own. Feminism is a LOT older than the CIA and hasn't changed its views all that much. Yea, but they'd be this fringe thing like Mormons are, not the thing directing policy, if people high up didn't believe it was serving their plans to divide and conquer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/26 04:27 PM
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I have never seen in the real world anything close to what the right love to call "white guilt" Any 'we have too many white men' is white guilt and sexism. And that's HR departments saying it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/26 02:47 PM
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Most feminists in the public eye agree that men are an oppressor class that should be blamed for 'patriarchy'. It doesn't matter if they're eco-feminists or taibo-feminists, the patriarchy claim is central to feminism. If you don't believe it, you get excommunicated - people call you anti-feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 08:10 PM
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its 63% penalty for maleness and 20% for race
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:23 PM
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If she were referring to the Western world 100+ years ago, then yes. Even 100 years ago, there was no 'justifying men using systemic control and violence on women', not even their relatives, let alone all women. There were bad actors, as there always is. But it was far from condoned, or expected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:15 PM
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Because its there to kill socialist policies by making everyone fight amongst each other instead of class uniting vs the oligarchs to demand liveable conditions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:06 PM
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And women telling other women their inherent role is weak, submissive and the object to be won, and discouraging women from acting in any way that displays autonomy (telling women they should never pursue, telling women their value lies in their appearance, essentially relegating women to their traditional roles while calling it empowerment) You act like cartel behavior is to force women to not be autonomous, and not to keep price of sex high. The name patriarchy is a misnomer for the system any…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 03:12 PM
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Also people don’t really control what they are attracted to. That applies to everyone. But even if men found FGM-affected genitals 'better', they'd likely have the sense not to voice that, let alone ask an hospital to approve their choice on their own daughter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 03:05 PM
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It's supremacist, its not saying that men are effeminate, its saying that misogyny is the oppression everyone faces, and misandry don't exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 02:33 PM
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it's basically encouraging flipping the table on racism and sexism, rather than actually trying to remove racism and sexism. and its the perceived sexism they are flipping on, they deny there ever was soft power, or that men ever listened or took women seriously in any matters that are relevant in politics
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 05:54 AM
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depression or untreated mental illness, alcohol or drug use those are coping methods...for...wait for it...life events being traumatizing or horrible in an ongoing way (like not seeing your kids).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 05:26 AM
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Even if he did use AI, will you complain he could have paid someone, and he stole the bread out of the mouth of an English literature major?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 09:27 PM
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because only 5% of the cases brought to trial are adjudicated as being fictitious… Even when they are found false for sure, through perjury, they very rarely punish the perjurer. At most a slap on the wrist. It's treated like telling a white lie, like complimenting someone when you don't really think it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/26 08:11 PM
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While in the US, it manifested more against women, in Europe it manifested more against men, and overall was more neighbor jealousy over stuff attributing it to sorcery by pettiness, than misogyny for women dancing in the woods. Essentially, it was religious-sanctioned bullying, with the religion being the one hitting, but not the one accusing most of the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/26 05:19 AM
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That was the case in the 50s/60s and before No, it wasn't the case before that men were evil and hated women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/26 03:22 AM
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That's just encouraging a Duluth Model like framework, which reframes all 'men call for DV' as 'they are perps, because patriarchal violence'. Police already sees it that way without prompting, because its the culture we are indoctrinated in since birth (men bad, women victim), but it gets worse when its official policy that men are always the perp because women only do self-defense for DV.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/26 06:44 PM
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He’s been stupid rich his entire life His father was at most bourgeoisie, and Musk wanted nothing to do with him so went to Canada to study there. The only time he ever got some of his father's money was when the father invested in Paypal, and that's not the same as using the money, its just investing in the same place. afaik all he’s done with that is illegally immigrate to the US Legally immigrate you mean. buy Tesla and spaceX He was the highest investor in Tesla, and founded SpaceX himself. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/26 04:06 PM
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Institutional feminism. They're threatening vaguely and without explicitly saying so, that women's votes would go elsewhere if not placated. Veto this gender-neutral law (Florida governor for example), don't have this custody law (lots of states), have this women and girls policy/council, refuse the male version (everywhere).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/26 04:00 PM
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I don't think Musk wants that. He's been against woke before it was fashionable to be. And its probably the one thing the Trump 2nd mandate did good to curb, if only a little. It's not that Musk has no idea of an ideal society, but he considers the infighting, the purity tests and the contaminating of meritocratic culture (for the worse, like regarding scientific talents, engineers) as something that is sinking society, not 'keeping billionaires as non-targets'. He'd be equally against the relig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 11:58 PM
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women are not actually holding most of the power (including economic power). If your shame to those holding the levers of power actually works, you have power over them, they might as well be your children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 11:46 PM
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That sounds like "math and logic is patriarchal" or "the notion of being on time is white supremacy"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 07:41 PM
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but I think it's more common and widely accepted among the 'radlib' types (liberals who adopt revolutionary-sounding rhetoric but focus entirely on identity issues and treat class as an afterthought at best if not ignore it entirely). Unfortunately, all the leftward parties, economically, or socially, have been captured by those people, so there is no real economical left parties not corrupted by wokeism, DEI and feminism. So egalitarian on the surface, but not actually. Because of the oppressed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 07:35 PM
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it also means men retain a majority of positions of power and wealth, which means we are not heading for a matriarchy anytime soon If you can make the men do decisions that are in your (women's) interests, its definitely not a patriarchy. It's a matriarchy with extra steps, no accountability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 07:32 PM
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You cannot have capitalism without eventual oligarchy. Have an AGI manage it all and you got The Culture, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 01:15 AM
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Some countries even now outright legally recognise women as ubermensch towards whom crime is more serious than the men-morlocks. Spain too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 08:42 PM
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Specifically, they argue that misogyny necessarily entails men vs women in an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy, and that misandry would need women to oppress men for them to work, and since women are not majority of executive leaders, that's not happening. Except nowhere in the definition does it say you got to be outside the group. Or that the people being oppressors even see it as sex A vs sex B (they probably see it as Rich people (themselves) vs Not Rich People, or in the case of the woke: Mana…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 07:49 PM
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due to them not being beautiful Men are generally conditioned not to see themselves as beautiful, because its seen as an 'out' to their role. The equivalent of cross-dressing to not be drafted. This is where the condemnation of cross-dressing in the bible comes from - men trying to escape certain death through passing off as a woman. Being an artist (of any kind) who isn't making bank is also seen the same way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/25 06:58 PM
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It's baffling to me that relatively few people seem to understand this. The people at the bottom just want to believe a narrative, and the people at the top want to sell it like snake oil. No one really wants to understand it that is part of ideology. People who want to understand it are outside of it criticizing it, being called chuds and alt-right fascists for having normal opinions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/25 03:45 PM
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Why is this a bad thing now for homeless men but justified for women, class oppressed folks, raced oppressed folks and “women lite” men Because the doctrine says that men have it made (at least on the gender axis), so their only reason to be angry, complain or revolt, is to oppress some more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/25 07:22 AM
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It's almost like people pick on normal dudes because they can't punch Elon. Well, those people don't like Elon, but its not because he's rich. It's because he helped Trump and is anti woke. He's also anti-trans (mostly the ideology) for personal reasons. They might vaguely rail against billionaires once in a while, but their advocacy is everything but economical-class based. They don't advocate for the poor, they want to help a few black handicapped lesbians, for virtue points. Or at most 'their…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 05:59 PM
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It's genuinely scary that they think this is our motivation for not being very fond of feminists. I said it before, the dogma says this is the only reason men would advocate for men's rights, according to the oppressor/oppressed dichotomy, men have no need for advocacy as men, therefore its just anti-women advocacy, to 'get back' stuff how it was. Other reasons for doing it are not admitted as possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 04:03 PM
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misogynists in return expecting too little from women like they're subhuman because "well, she said she needs me to do everything". Vicious cycle. Well, I wouldn't say expecting little and accepting it as a fact of life is 'treating people as subhuman'. Maybe incompetent. But slaves were seen as incompetent, and still worked to death. It was no excuse to treat them better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 03:19 PM
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Women had no finances, no autonomy to leave Women always worked, since forever. Ergo they had finances.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 02:58 PM
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AMAB nonbinary person here (mentally I'm completely feminine, I am nonbinary because I am not getting bottom surgery because I don't even like having a body I'm not getting surgery, and still identify as a woman. It could cause locker issues if I was to change in an open space, but I'm unlikely to put myself in such a position.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 07:14 AM
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The last time you wrote it was 1%. In the past 1-2 centuries, a lot more than 0,1% had the opporutinity to get educated. But doctors, lawyers, politicians and academics, together, likely represent no more than 0.1% of people. People went to university for other reasons than this, even back then. But very few people went if you go back 120 years. but even for the small fraction who could lead a better life, men were privileged No, if you were born in that 'small fraction who has a better life' be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 07:59 PM
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they were being kept out of US colleges because they were expected to marry and settle down with a man yes The rich all married. Men and women. Rich women chose not to go, not because they would marry, but because they had no perceived reason to go. There was no positive incentive to go, and no negative incentive from not going. Regardless, they'd have the money and influence. So only the truly motivated women went 'who had a calling', while rich men all went, because not going was just not an o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 07:00 PM
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We should strive for equal representation of women in all fields, including doctors and lawyers They already went past 50% in those 2. They'd consider forcing the needle to stay at 50% to be bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 06:34 PM
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There was a time where women were kept out of US colleges There was a time when only the rich could afford university, and fewer women went because there was less of a practical reason. Rich women had no expectations of providing or leading an empire, and few of them wanted to be self-made-women, even if they had the leisure to choose to do so (and they did, if they were born rich). It gave them no advantage in life, it was pure personal ambition. And let me tell you if you removed the 'you gott…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 06:19 PM
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The majority of STEM students are also men. Only if you defined STEM as excluding biology and doctors, veterinary and dentists for some reason. Like its not science? Is it some form of art? Men hold more wealth The very top do (and they're a rounding error for the civilization), on average men typically don't. get more educated Maybe before 1970, but not since, no. And before 1850, you needed to be rich, or be financed by someone who is, to go to university. We're talking millionaires today. Mid…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 06:10 PM
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This also included doctors, lawyers, political leaders, academics etc. 0.1% of people. Not 'men'. Not to mention leading within your family Only having whatever your family chose be communicated to people outside of it by you. You're the spokesperson, not the mayor. Even progressives (e.g. Bentham) believed that women are simply dumber and can never really compete with men. In what? Hard labor? Like I said 99% of men didn't have the opportunity to even learn to read and write, let alone show off…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 05:01 PM
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but at the same time, men were considered vastly more intelligent and competent in every regard Only if you consider 'every regard' to be farm work (the heavy kind, and management of farm - and even then, it wasn't considered a universal domain where all men did good, a lot were just poor managers by their own word), handy work on the farm, and clerical stuff. Because this is what 99% of men did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 02:58 PM
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If you say men being violent is the result of socialization, and then turn around and say this socialization affects all men and is inevitable, this is essentialism with extra steps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 02:35 PM
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But it only applies to men. People getting handouts, bursaries and using make-up and falsies? Totally legitimate. Men getting help to form coherent sentences and not kill their own charm? They should stay bad! Also note the opposition to substitutive rewards like sex bots, too. They should not only stay bad, but feel bad about it. They should be shamed for not being good enough, not get good food or pleasing entertainment (ie attractive women in videogames with men as a main market).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 02:25 PM
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You see, they consider it impossible to be systemic if it's not done by a subject outside the victim class. Hence why they say men have power, thus men can't be victims systemically, because it would be men victimizing men, and thus the equivalent of 'punching yourself'. But the politics doesn't work with team men and team women. It works with team oligarch and everyone else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/25 10:36 PM
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My god.. are they really that blind? The FACT that the criminal justice system (I guess this somehow doesn't count as a 'system' and thus doesn't make it "systemic"?) is biased against men and in favor of women is a clear sign of "Systemic" misandry You see, when they say misogyny is systemic, they mean men enable bad stuff on women. So for systemic misandry to happen, it would need to be women enabling bad stuff on men. Notwithstanding this not making any sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/25 08:26 PM
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I don't go to therapy or the doctor. I walk in the street instead of the sidewalk. I don't use public transit because I don't want to be a typical man making women uncomfortable on the bus. I walk out of a room if I am the only male in it. It's my job to get out the way and let others have a chance to live their life. I am privileged. Funnily enough, they say they're privileged, yet get treated and asked to be happy, about getting pariah-tier treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/25 06:12 PM
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You can refer to any opposition to those perceived as losers to get better or have 'tricks' to success, like PUAs, or those perceived as losers to get free sexual release (toys, sexbots, videogames with attractive women). If they didn't 'get it on their own', its a cheat and is seen as usurping the natural order of things where he'd pound sand.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/25 04:08 PM
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the problem is that there is no widespread progressive movement for men The MSM and governments do their best to prevent it happening, indirectly, by promoting feminism's 'men bad' stuff, which effectively prevents widespread organizing. Until post-scarcity world with robots replacing labor (and even then, few conservatives see that happening at all), they want no way average men can get past their provider role.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/25 04:32 PM
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I mean, to be fair, you could say the same thing about hip hop and calling women hoes, sluts, trash, bitches, etc. Not mainstream all-public music though, and definitely not seen as acceptable opinions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 07:02 PM
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I mean you could probably get a similar take about women by talking to any popular rapper in the 90s. It's viewed as trash by most though, it doesn't get on radio and top 40s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 07:01 PM
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I notice gender studies and sociology classes remind me a lot of Bible study classes in an evangelical church: rich and nuanced questions are asked but there’s always one simple answer that can be given and there’s no appetite for interrogating/validating the assumptions that substantiate the answer. I heard the Jewish faith was more open to vigorous religious debates. But Christian faith is closed to questioning the dogma without having a theology degree, and even then, you better not question …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 06:08 AM
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Doesn't have to be 'left wing spaces', just mainstream media. Fox News and Breitbart struggle to get 10% of the reach of MSNBC and other left medias, so feminism and separately, misandry is not just a lefty soundbite, its the air you breathe. I wouldn't say the powers that be concerted to achieve a certain result, but they seem to mostly agree together, with Musk being the black sheep who disagrees on principle (hence why the MSM takes every opportunity to fire pot shots on him, regardless if he…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 06:02 AM
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The issue was the hypoagency of women, which yes, did cause many victims to not have their claims taken seriously or followed up on. It's hyperagency that makes people think you can't be a victim. Hypoagency predicts you to always be a victim and never an independant agent who can effect change (be a leader) or help themselves, but also commit any crime (never any mens rea).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 02:09 AM
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What's up for debate is whether the primary motive was engagement farming to keep people glued to their platforms for profit, or if it was to deprive class war of oxygen. But I don't think it's a stretch to assume it was both. Well, if the decision was taken by oligarchs, killing class war stuff is in their personal interest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 02:05 AM
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historically misogyny was worse, I'm speaking of the past 15 years Historically, both were acceptable. Men were seen as uncivilized brutes needing women to tame them, and women as feeble things who need protection. Aristocratic men and women saw themselves as both intellectual and educated (not necessarily to find a job), but often saw the plebians as beneath them, dirty and slaves - men as beasts of burden and women as brood mares.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 05:39 AM
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And who set that system up? The oligarchs Over 90% of rape is perpetrated on women BY men? Over 90% of rape on men is also perpetrated by men To both: Only if you define rape as needing a penis (the victim has to be penetrated with one). Women earn less than men on a similar job with the same qualifications? If they do less hours, yes. Women are expected to be childtakers and also have a career whilst men are expected to have a career and having children is just a bonus Unless they get divorced,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 05:32 AM
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Conservatives literally want systemic patriarchy and they do so in a way that men have agency and women have less so and should be 'protected'. They wants laws about women not working? Not being able to be promoted? Hired in certain sectors? Go to uni? Being able to take decisions that affect other workers? Being elected? Have them officially have to wait their turn after all men have talked to have an opinion at work?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 11:38 PM
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Because men are a group on top of a social hierarchy They're said to be on top of a social hierarchy, and found more guilty and less worthy of help like someone with higher responsibilities might be, but have zero more leverage, and governments do their damnedest to help every group except men when they actually need help (services for victim of anything, injustice, poverty, crime profiling and sentencing). Ergo, they're a scapegoat. Told they have more power when they don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 09:24 PM
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your moment movement
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 11:53 PM
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Some people frame men's advocacy as an attack against women. Maybe if you're literally verbally attacking women, but I don't and that's not what I see among men who are concerned with men's advocacy. I've come to agreements with a number of feminists because I don't see it as "enemy territory", I think that's immature. I've also fought with feminists who've made it clear that according to them men don't suffer, women's victimhood is supreme, and men shouldn't speak on gender at all. It is what i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 06:56 PM
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Yea, I can see services that mention dudebros everywhere including the name, appealing to women "we also serve females" would be tacked in somewhere in small characters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 04:30 PM
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(due largely to Tate and his manosphere) Due to it being framed that way from the very start by feminism. It's like Christianity that framed every other religion as Paganism, thus evil and Satanic. Helping men is helping Satan, simple as.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 03:59 PM
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verminantly vehemently
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 03:57 PM
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They see intactivist efforts as being a false equivalence to FGM. Therefore you should stop complaining, because it makes them uncomfortable. That's literally aristocratic narcissism tier activism. Your union picketing is noisy, stop that, says the rich man sipping his 100$ drink.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 03:54 PM
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Some people flinch react that any topic about men is reactionary, or derailment, they often are and I understand the impulse but I get ya The thing is, people have been conditioned to see it that way. Not because they encountered it a lot, or radical misogynists are everywhere, but because the feminist doctrine that is the proverbial water to the fish that is society, says that anything about men ought to be suspicious, and that men, for their maleness/gender, never need help. In fact that anyth…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 03:44 PM
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Yeah, but 2/3 of the were bots pushing psy-op propaganda. That no one saw. It's like censoring the homeless guy with a "End is nigh" cardboard thing, who's sitting somewhere with 5 people walking by him the entire day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 05:09 AM
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I think if Twitter has shown you a post from the CIA & NSA about why they censored it and allowed appeal then it wouldn't have been a problem. They censored nobodies with 30 followers and no retweets. Not Russian Joe Rogan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 04:20 PM
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The notion that women are innately more selective than men mostly comes from Bateman's principle in biology, which is based mainly on an experiment done in the late 1940s, with terrible methodology, that has been debunked in 2013. At least we know women have been taught to be more selective (at least on ambition/wealth criterias). And men have been taught to have no standards besides looks, and if he's not particularly good looking/rich, not even that. So the socialization has amped up the selec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 06:35 AM
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due to the history of female-infantilisation angelification, pesdestalization Infantilization presents it as a negative. But its only a 'you can never be guilty' thing, not a 'you're too inexperienced in life to know better'. It's misogynistic to think women can't be as bad or worse than men It's a lot more misandry to think only men can be bad. There is no downside to not be arrested when you murder in cold blood.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 12:49 AM
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Connections and favors were and are the critical currency for getting a tenure-track professorship. Sure, a promising and productive research portfolio is important, but networking often trumped that. I think I largely preferred 'you got to know the right people' to 'you need the right genitals and skin color'. What's funny is there used to be this huge bias against people outside the local norm. Like in Murdoch Mysteries, Brackenreid tells Murdoch and some others, that as a Catholic, he's caree…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:18 AM
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Morons preach about how bad capitalism then accuse Republicans of being fascist. People accuse Musk of being a far right fascist for having opinions on unrestrained immigration, and for some reason, wanting free speech on his platform. They'd say pre-Musk Twitter was better because it censored hate speech. But it mostly censored right wing speech. Now the lack of wide censoring is seen as letting free reign to haters (only by those idpol lefts - who partially left for Bluesky). Weirdly in the 90…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:14 AM
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You might find you don't tolerate the lack of T or the estrogen. I don't think its going to have an adverse effect on all non-trans people, but chances are it would.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 07:20 PM
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The risks aren't super high, especially if you're a non-smoker, but they're not null, and they wouldn't change the 1 year difference of monks vs nuns for the HRT taker (its likely you lose at least 1 year life expectancy from it, but not 10 or 20 years). The higher risk is of blood clots. I'm a trans woman who's been on HRT for over 19 years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 06:58 PM
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You lose life expectancy, its dangerous like taking any meds at medium/high level is, for your circulation system, liver, heart etc
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 06:42 PM
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HRT itself is dangerous long term, and its lifelong. And cis men would find going on estrogen and lowering testosterone to be pretty horrible, on average. Even without physical effects.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 05:56 PM
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Men historically (like 50 years ago) didn't get tenure positions out of kicking out all women who applied, but out of being the majority of people who applied to the position. If you have 70% men who apply to something, don't be surprised if they end up being 70% of those with the job.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 04:21 PM
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It should be made anti constitutional.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 04:20 PM
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Affirmative action was tame. DEI went outright for quotas and taking men off the list for hiring and promotions. Men higher up the hierarchy were spared because of their position (and they wholeheartedly approved DEI, it was a sacrifice that wasn't going to affect them anyways), but the vast majority of men didn't have that luck.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 05:07 AM
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If feminists as a whole is protested against as “evil” then they view the men’s rights movement as men who want to control women and take away their rights again. That's the only way the doctrine makes it possible to see advocacy for men, as going backwards on women's rights. Because the doctrine says men have all the rights, all the power, they can seek nothing except to protect it. You'll have people tell men with all the seriousness in the world that violence by men is due to men feeling enti…
/r/MensRights16/12/25 05:03 AM
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But I will be honest, if I transitioned at age 14 instead of 18, I would probably be just another feminist. I wouldn't be able to see and understand men's issues. I would be like "all men are blah blah" just because some of them were bad. I'm hoping I'd still have critical thinking and not bandwagon just because its trendy.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 04:46 AM
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It's amazing that institutional discrimination on pretty much a first world scale (at least in the West) was judged not only constitutional, but desirable. I get that the oligarchs on top wanted to do it, but it shouldn't have passed muster, it's obviously discrimination and unmeritocratic. It's like writing in laws and policies that you have to hire the boss's son and everyone has to like it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 03:16 AM
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I was in the girlgamers sub reading about the Tomb Raider remake Lara's look, and one commenter there said that when you judge that its worse for women to be attacked than for men to be attacked (ie you find it more horrible when its women), that it's misogyny at work. I guess that can be true if EVERYTHING is misogyny, but then nothing is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/25 03:31 AM
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enough of them will notice the injustice of being treated like a perpetrator of future crimes by virtue of their gender not enough they got to be told, they'd (naively) expect a society who raised them to have their best health at heart, but they don't
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 07:06 AM
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A lot of anti-feminism is motivated largely by sexism/misogyny, because anti-feminism tends to come from TradCons. You'd be surprised that a lot of tradcons aren't actually misogynists, but pro traditional gender roles. So they want neither men nor women to have a free pass. They'll generally approve measures that protect only women, or punish crimes only against women. Like those femicide things. They'd also mostly agree with welfare for women only, or no welfare for no one. But never welfare f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/25 04:24 PM
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They'd still generally perceive MRAs, regardless if left or right wing, as anti-women, not pro-men. Like they'd say they want to remove rights from women, return to 1950s roles, and not help men in any way whatsoever. That they are solely reactionary and anti-progressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 05:44 PM
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Also always assuming that men's rights is the same as the red pill. I said it before, but feminism says anyone advocating for men is not actually advocating for men, but against women. Because men have nothing to advocate for. It can't accept that people would legitimately support men's rights, or that feminism is doing it wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 05:11 PM
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The elites are able to oppress because they are rich and can buy power. However changing the theory to men and women doesn't work because there are many men who are not elites as well as many women who are elites. It also doesn't work because men "as head of household" never meant "men are tyrants doing whatever they want, waited on by doting slaving women who have no recourse". I mean there always were assholes, but it never was the norm. Men as head of household only meant taking decisions pub…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/25 05:46 PM
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You forgot the bit near the end where communications between a sex crime accused and the alleged victim will be harder to get as evidence. Ghomeshi would be guilty in 2026.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/25 05:40 PM
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But for men, especially with the false thinking that anyone bringing up the abuse of men as "downplaying women's struggles", I just can't take society seriously no more. That comes from the feminist doctrine that says oppression is unidirectional, such that any male advocacy is actually anti-female advocacy disguised to not get canceled. It's as alien to feminist doctrine as white rights in a white majority country, or straight rights. I'd even go so far as to say that feminism embraces the 'men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/25 04:04 PM
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I heard of someone close-ish to me having their disability check garnished for spousal support, too. And the kind of permanent one too (well into his 80s).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/25 07:04 AM
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Don't forget also that the only people who can be against feminist stats or for male victims are MRAs. And not just the regular flavor you can encounter in real life, but the strawman version of MRAs that lives rent free in their head: its always a white straight man, always right-wing, even alt-right because why not, and not actually pro-man, but anti-woman, to the point of being openly misogynist and only wanting to turn back women's rights - not wanting to get equality (like for circumcision …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/25 03:11 AM
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The moment people don’t want to address ideas they pivot… they pivot to anecdotal experience, they pivot to “oh, I know! You don’t know!”, No True Scotsman rhetoric. They refuse to address the core idea. Instead you refuse to address even the idea of a patriarchal society. Do you entertain flat earthists or anti vaxx? Because that's how you sound now. The rich are being told the world is their oyster, and it is. Men not so much. And feminism does think the world is made by men for men (and how t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/25 12:42 AM
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This idea that the manosphere doesn’t tell men that the world is better with them in control, is just false. I have no idea what manosphere you're channelling. Not what I've seen. I've heard of PUAs and MRAs, and neither of them will go on about how it was better before, how women shouldn't have rights, and how men are owed everything. I don't consider the much more niche other groups to be manosphere (even menslib, is only controlled opposition, not manosphere) in the same way I don't consider …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/25 12:39 AM
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Ok, so we're settled that it's true and accurate. its also misrepresentation, scare-mongering and demonization, all at once
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/25 12:28 AM
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mostly because of a historic pattern of abusive men accusing their victims of being the abuser. There has also been a historic pattern of abusive women accusing their victims of being the abuser. The only difference is those women tend to be believed by authorities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 08:11 PM
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The Mansosphere tells men what again? That dating is hard, and do x y and z to make it manageable. Not that you are owed everything. Did Western culture as a whole abandon the narrative? It actually never had that narrative. The "Its a world built by men for men" is what feminism says, not what reality or most people ever said to men. The videogames or movies had male heroes 'save the day' that wasn't something telling men they are owed anything, only that some men can achieve greatness. And tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 06:15 PM
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Don’t be with those women. That’s what women do. They avoid men who have expectations of them that they feel are antiquated. Men should do exactly the same. There’s no issue here. Women can more easily demand what they want. Short of being deliberately unattractive, nothing will seriously affect their mating chance. But men are faced with a list of demands, and short of being superstars in terms of looks (and then there's few of those men), they don't have the leverage of most women. Now if ALL …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 06:02 PM
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Why? Because they were conditioned to believe they were the masters of their universe and could do and be anything. Why? Because the institutions surrounding them told them this. In what galaxy? A far far away one probably. Men born after 2000 were never told this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 03:43 PM
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Yeah, nerdy stuff that men like, has always been made fun of or seen as something to punch down on men who like that sort, as if it’s bad to like say anime, comics, or video games. even in Japan, the land of anime - if you're a big fan of anime, videogames and you're older than 13, it better be subdued, or you're an otaku and that's like being a pariah for men. They'll tolerate playing games on your commute on your phone/small console, but any more than that is the equivalent of pretending to be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 03:29 PM
1

in Big Bang Theory, Leonard is a shorter-than-average physicist (working primarily on lasers), with pretty high intelligence, a castrating mother, and a sort of self-hate about his geek likes, and he dates and eventually marries the bombshell neighbor who initially is a waitress (eventually a pharma rep who supposedly makes twice his income).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 03:15 PM
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Because we refuse to let go of the idea that our strength makes us good providers and protectors. or because its still expected of men by their potential mates (most of which are straight), regardless of their own wish?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 03:12 PM
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She's madly in love with him, and he's suffering from the modern anxiety and self-doubt that comes from being a teenage boy in the modern era. Sorta like Leonard in Big Bang Theory, minus the wanting to repudiate his geek side to please women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 03:33 AM
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So you mean repeal DEI, not repeal anti-discrimination laws? Those are definitely not the same. Most people here would think DEI is horrible. Good idea, Extremely bad execution (quotas are pretty much always bad). We saw it years before they tried it, that they'd fail it. Cause it was written on the wall in font 70, in bold and italic. They were attempting to reverse social trends (and not big ones vs women) not through social change, but through institutional forced change. Ergo, the way of fas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 02:10 AM
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Even during this Thanksgiving when the topic of anime came up with my mother and step sister, it just went weirdly into about incels or calling stuff like my dress up darling, incel-like. I don't know that anime, but I know its always been fashionable to punch down on males who are seen as not cutting it, mostly socially (being virgins, unmarried in 30s+, or who are heavily into geek stuff, or who are very nerdy into science (or both)). Their income rarely matters there, unless they're millionai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 01:07 AM
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They aren't at odds at all. 'Women have too much empathy so they're bad fighters' lives in the same box as 'women think men are monsters'. Angelic beings who are too pure to be corrupted by bad stuff because of their superior empathy, would never believe men are monsters, unless that's specifically the name of a man (ie he's named "Monster").
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 08:55 PM
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"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 08:31 PM
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And thus their true intentions are revealed. To you, they are, but its too late. To society? It doesn't know or care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 05:15 AM
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The only difference is that instead of white men being propped up as the lone tough ranger The one who survived anyways. He wasn't the only one sent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 04:10 AM
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Or run into the arms of the Manosphere? You ran into their trap card, you became the enemy they warned you about all along. Now you're the orc they're coming to slay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 03:50 AM
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The object isn't to get people to say, "Look at the men suffering there! Men are oppressed!" It would be, "Look at the children suffering due to anti-male sexism, and the solution is to defer to social equality and reasonability rather than sex preference in pursuing the best interests of society during child custody deliberations." If it's oppression you're against anyway. Child custody should definitely be about the child, but the parent also matters there. They're not a mere accessory. So whe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 10:32 PM
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It's probably true that, all else equals, a white woman has it worse than a white man, or a black man has it worse than a white man. It's possibly true, not even probably true for the woman vs man. If you value not being in prison and people caring for your physical well-being enough not to maim and murder you, being female helps (plus offering heaps of government services only you can use, free). If you value the low odds of becoming a CEO (it sure won't be handed to you for showing up with a p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 03:16 PM
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Both synthesize in a historical description of wealthy men influencing wealthy women The reverse is also true, and without needing a formal seat of power to do so. Women had a harder time going in the self-made entrepreneur seat of power, but never a hard time marrying the seat (and men are blocked from marrying rich women when they're not, by her family), being a daughter of the seat (equal chance to the son, great influence on daddy), or lobbying (with great effect, see temperance movement) th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 05:18 AM
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aid against phimosis, which is rare in itself and not a problem until sexual maturity and also generally caused by trying to move the foreskin in babies to clean under it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 03:20 AM
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and i dont know about you lot, but attraction happens or doesnt True, but its not an instinctual 5 minutes thing. I need a long time to see if I'm actually attracted, longer than a date, or a 5 minute encounter at work. If it was purely physical, and I cared about that, yea sure, I could have sex with a lot more people. But I don't seek that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 03:54 AM
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It's angelizing women. Yes, it says women can do no wrong, but because they are fundamentally good, not childish/inexperienced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 11:33 PM
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Contrary to what they say (that its society, other people), those who devalue housework, are them. They just give 'bonus points' when women do it. Paternalism I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 07:28 AM
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this made work outside the home more attractive to women than the alternative of being domestic caregivers. It's still generally preferred when its affordable. Though the better options is to have the rich lifestyle, and house staff, so you only do leisure (basically the 'high tea' that little girls play). The family in Mary Poppins that she is nanny for, is that kind of family. Mom there does nothing that looks like work, or housework. She has staff to do that kind of thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 06:15 AM
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I don't think a lot of feminists realize the reason women were forced to stay housewives Well, they weren't forced. They had incentives by the system, compared to the harsh labor (mainly manual labor like textile, warehouses), that was also paid by performance. Supposing they could escape the labor (he earns enough), that was considered a superior way to raise children than letting them raise themselves. Especially back when 40 hours week wasn't a reality. Child mortality was scary high during t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 03:58 AM
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and even then it was created for wealthy people of both sexes, it didn't discriminate amongst the rich
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/25 09:31 PM
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National service includes peace time in most countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 12:32 AM
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Traditional femininity includes being meek and submissive Not being loud and doing things behind the curtains (it still achieves results, and if you did it well, no one can pin any blame on you), it doesn't imply submissiveness at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/25 06:10 PM
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And they do show, I think convincingly, that feminists do not dislike men or feel particularly cold towards them as a group They just pass laws and policies that disregards male victims and female perpetrators, and prevent their recognition by anyone with power. If a group did this with women intentionally, I'd have no problem seeing them as misogynists, extremely so, way more than avg (since avg has no power to do this).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/25 04:01 PM
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Measuring relative liking is also a bad way to measure 'how bad are you' (wrt treating those people), especially if your ideology contributed to lowering that bar. For example, measuring the dislike of men of avg people, and of current day feminists, doesn't tell us how fair that is, or how much feminism itself contributed to making it acceptable, laudable even, to hate men, maleness, masculinity and to refuse to help men out of principle (of not helping the evil oppressive people). You'd have t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 11:33 PM
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You'd want them to do the Trolley test to measure misandry, not ask people "are you warm towards men?". If 90% of people and 90% of feminists sacrify men first, then sure, feminists aren't worst, but that's nazi-tier hatred towards men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 03:53 PM
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Its not measuring misandry though. Their criteria for what misandry is are definitely off. If they measured misogyny similarly, you'd have a hard time finding misogynists even amongst super trads.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 03:43 PM
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If you want line change without paragraph, you got to add 2 spaces after the line like this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 04:00 AM
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It not good for anyone to be killed, but women are targeted, attacked, and murdered far more often, so there are more results. Women are less targeted, less attacked and less murdered. Review your stats.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 04:17 PM
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It is obviously not as simple as "You are a woman, so I am going to kill you." That's how it is for men though. When a murderer refuses to kill women, he's saying ONLY men are fair game. He's not just selecting against A, he's definitely selecting B.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 04:16 PM
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Femicide usually indicates the murder of a woman by a man, right? So wouldn't androcide be men murdered by women? Wouldn't that track logically? Femicide is the murder of a woman by anyone, because she is a woman. There is no requirement for the identity of the murderer. I don't think if a female serial killer killed women only, they'd say it can't be femicide because she's female. Please look into the murder rates in intimate violence, are the victims predominantly male or female? Do women murd…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 04:14 PM
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They also live in the same political climate as everybody else, meaning a law passed unanimously is very hard to fight. Biden's trying to repeal the protections Trump put on campus rape accusations, mostly got blocked by judges finding it unconstitutional. So one can hope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/25 05:45 PM
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archive can do it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/25 01:08 AM
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I agree that the word "femicide" is appropriate. Stats show that women are more likely to be killed by their male partners (1.6 times) than the reverse scenario. That's true since the existence of DV shelters. Ironically, DV shelters for women diminished the killing of male partners, since some female victims had an out that didn't involve killing their partner. Not so for male victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/25 01:48 AM
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suddenly all households were single income Only middle class households could afford a single income.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/25 12:55 AM
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There's missing words in your sentence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 06:10 PM
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Note that while Musk is not very pro 'eat the rich', he's also against the diversion that is identity politics for its own sake. It's weird that he'd be the only loud enough voice of reason in this sea of MSM-acceptance that identity politics 'has to happen'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 04:29 PM
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feminism has pretty much succeeded in letting women work Contraception is the thing that removed interference to women's working. But women always worked.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/25 03:54 PM
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If we cross those line we are no longer seen as men, but as monsters If you're already seen as a deadweight threat by doing nothing (being unconscious and bruised), I don't think being a model Jewish person will avoid the death camps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 07:56 PM
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Differences on avg between groups is not a reason to insult an individual though. That's the difference between "You have an awful throw technique" and "You're a girl, obviously you can't throw because of this".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 02:52 PM
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and also the woman having to obey and the man always having the final say on everything major after making sure he agrees with her, right? Cause that happened long before the 1950s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/25 04:31 PM
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Nah, they'll punish men who do psychological DV regardless of the actual effects. The lopsidedness is almost entirely due to the propaganda behind it. It reinforced the man-bad woman-victim narrative, to the point of being absolute (law, policy), rather than a stereotype.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/25 04:09 PM
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For those who dont know, when he was 19 years old NBA player Josh Giddey allegedly hooked up with a 17 year old girl he met inside of an 18+ establishment who, unbeknownst to Giddey, had used a fake id to get in. If it was a woman who had sex with a 16 years old local in some tourist place, regardless of her own age, she would be excused "because she didn't know his real age". But when its a man, he has mind-reading powers and can detect people faking their age, so he's considered responsible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/25 06:28 PM
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An exception is the Space X CEO Shotwell, she's been there a while, and even if Musk makes some decision (he has majority vote), she's the one managing the company.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 04:58 PM
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I'm against neo pronouns, Xhe and such. Whenever it is compelled. Calling a trans woman she is very different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 03:09 PM
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and you would have a hard time distinguishing between average feminist rhetoric, and average Manosphere/Incel content. And would a company compel the HR department to follow incel doctrine? Hire in a DEI fashion that favors men for having a penis?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 02:53 PM
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That's like saying male presidents are men so its fine cause 'some men' could do x.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 02:52 PM
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is a loud minority only visible due to amplification and algorithms play or because they're the leaders, uncontested by others
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 02:38 PM
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There's no reason needed, any one they would give would be a post-hoc rationalization of treating some people as inferior. Like people who invented phrenology reasons for the inferiority of Africans.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 07:35 AM
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As a trans person, I think people should have this right. It should not be something you can proudly proclaim at work, but it should still be something you can think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 10:42 PM
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society treats them with kid gloves You see, after saying women influence others to make everything for their benefit, and are too scared to do otherwise...its kinda weird to see this as infantilizing, and not pedestalizing. It's raising them to the status of half deity, not treating them like lesser creatures.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 08:23 PM
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Feminist Critics?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 07:40 PM
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If you're in a monarchy and that has obligations that hurt you, staying there is a choice. So the hurt is subjective because it could be avoided. Unlike starvation, that's hard to avoid if you're unable to work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 05:05 PM
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Alcohol is a method of coping, not a hobby.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 04:44 PM
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This is only true since the Great Renunciation (~17th century), where apparently kings and aristocrat men decided they were going to be bland and boring, only functional from now on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/25 08:33 PM
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So it is much easier to convince men that they should have more money and more important jobs, than it is to convince women of the opposite, for obvious reasons. Depends. Do you tell women they can spend their husband's money, and have the same life standard as if they worked 60 hours while working 20? Because I sure would prefer this, if I wasn't literally in love with my career.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 04:44 PM
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That's how our species survived- the best genes go on to Hollywood, the rest keep their head down and suffer alone That's the thing though, darwinism isn't about the stronger one winning, or the better one winning, its the most adaptive one winning. So the top genes here are people who manage to survive a dog eats dog world, and probably get a good seat at the table, regardless of the blood under their boots. Do we really aspire to this as a species? Like we're encouraging imperial-like behavior…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 04:38 PM
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"and nobody expects you to spend 3 hours every morning just to look adequately presentable" In my experience, the people enforcing this standard on women.. is other women... even then, the 3 hours is overstated Unless your job is some kind of client-facing thing, your employer can't request this, and while it gives you bonus charisma points, its not a requirement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 04:13 PM
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nobody expects you to spend 3 hours every morning just to look adequately presentable. Unless you're Lady Gaga, no one expects this out of anyone. one that's overwhelmingly more accommodating if you're a man Yes, it arrests you more, convicts you more, suspects you more of crimes, tells you that being homeless is your fault, refuses you welfare because you're not a single father, no DV shelter for you, invents nefarious motives for you bumping or accidentally touching people in crammed places (l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 12:22 AM
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It can also be directed to take white gloves for women and stuff pertaining to them, because the head honchos thought it would be bad PR if they didn't. But being unequal is also going to be bad PR.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/25 07:42 AM
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well if you're branded as gay generally, you're also friendzoned for a great swaths of women you didn't even hit on Like in Kick-Ass where the girl is so sure the MC is gay she starts to change in front of him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 05:09 PM
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It doesn't help when the equivalent of an institutional religion amplified the demonization of strange men. It goes from "be wary, strange men can do bad stuff" to "men are demonic beings corrupted at birth who do evil because they find it funny".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 04:42 AM
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Some are also demons in sheep's clothing, who try to make amends like a serial killer becoming a priest. They also try to exteriorize the blame. It's not them being violent, its maleness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 09:38 PM
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Some of the platonic stuff a woman does with her friends could get a man killed in a few countries for being "gay," Ironically, the countries that punish being gay with death or great ostracism, have greater allowance with gestures and contact (touching) between boys and between men. Like in Japan, you could have a boy sitting in another boy's lap, and nobody would think they're a couple if they don't start kissing. Close hugs between men are also the norm in a lot of countries that are pretty h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 09:36 PM
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Is that treating situations like science or math somehow makes you a sociopath. Situations that don't involve living beings are fine. As soon as its not theoretical and involves real people or animals, it becomes potentially sociopathic. The moment its done without consent and/or not according to their wish, its really bad. Regardless if its done with benevolent intent (ie woke). Ironically, neurodivergent men are often accused of this without doing it, when they ask for clear instructions for s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 04:02 PM
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Because most male royalty didn't change laws specifically for something they personally did. Just about no highly placed person has changed laws to advantage men in any way. Maybe to advantage tax evading rich people (of any sex), but not specifically men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 01:36 AM
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The frustrating thing about many autistics is that they don't treat social situations like science, which typically makes more sense to them is. Theoretically we could all be social scientists figuring out how to get the reactions we want out of people. But we don't care enough to put the time in and figure it out. That is our fault and within our control. or we're not sociopaths and see manipulating people to have specific stuff happen as abhorrent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/25 04:02 PM
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They're also talking about safe haven and unilateral adopting out (unless she's married, nobody has to ask whoever is the father permission). Not abortion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/25 03:30 PM
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We can all agree patriarchy exists to benefit a few powerful people at the top. Historically, those people have only been men. Historically, most men at the top had significant others and children, their SO was most often women, and half of their children were. And while Henry 8 abused his power for his own benefit, its not like he's representative of male royalty as a whole, or rich people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/25 03:05 PM
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I think this says a lot about the social contract. Women's bodies can be displayed, objectified and sexualised so long as they are shaved and waxed into a purified, sanitised, virginal form. The advent of trunks as the only admissible swimming gear for boys and men outside swim competitions, where drag coefficient is actually a factor. Is in the same vein. Men must be penis-less, and even an accidental or punctual erection is anathema to being in underwear or underwear like clothing. So to avoid…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/25 12:09 AM
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"Gender-critical" literally means that they reject the concept of gender as socially constructed, and that only 2 sexes exist with purely physical differences. That's exactly what bioessentialism is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 07:38 PM
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If you believe that socialization is universal by gender (and TERFs do), that's bioessentialism with extra steps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 05:10 PM
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one place to start would be to shout down the Duluth Model, Mary P Koss and NOW when they get it wrong (a ton of the time, whenever its about men actually). They're not fringe stuff.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 03:50 PM
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Before any complaint of abuse or expression of pain, “I know it happens to women much more frequently, but I recently had an experience…” Not just this, but also they see you or any man talking about your victimization as wanting feminism to do nothing about their own victimization. Like if you're saying 15 everywhere, who's counting, in a bid to have the game be over. And not actually want to help male victims. And the feminist dogma does say that men would only complain to shut women up, not t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 04:50 AM
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when I didnt disagree completely with a statement, I put a 3, which I considered a 'neither agree nor disagree'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 03:00 PM
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Hostile Sexism Score: 3.27 Benevolent Sexism Score: 0.55 As an aspie, I'm not surprised. Nobody gets special privileges, and unilateral demands made of only one party are not equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 05:28 AM
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Only feminists see having the benefits afforded to children as horrible. Most people would love to be free of consequences for crimes. While still being employable. Not even suspected, often, out of stereotype reasons (the benevolent kind only). Women wouldn't be violent (don't ask their relatives), women wouldn't commit sexual crimes (so never monitor women with toddlers, they're inherently safe), when a woman does X to a man, its not a crime cause not-unwanted (don't even need to ask him). It'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 03:51 AM
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men are shaming for having empathy and are expected to be emotionless men are shamed for showing sympathy, empathy is an internal thing (knowing what other people feel).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/25 04:40 PM
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This is literally the conservative idea of "happy wife, happy life". But feminists will say its the opposite, the wife being the slave to the husband. Never was so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/25 07:34 PM
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It's normalized in every romantic holiday or occasion, where he offers roses, chocolate, pays an expensive dinner, woos her. Rarely seen culture depict the reverse, at least not as an expectation. Sometimes its shown as 'being the best SO in the world', but never is it the baseline.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/25 04:19 PM
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They have adopted their positions because on a surface level, they want to be the opposite of Trump. Trump hates trans people, so they become aesthetically pro-trans, but the manner in which they're pro-trans doesn't come from a place of respect for personal freedom, for example. They support trans people the way a rebellious kid in the 70's listened to rock music just to piss off their parents. or as called by anti woke people (like KiA): Trump Derangement Syndrome and I say this as someone who…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/25 01:40 PM
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I am 100% speaking from real world experience, if a man (or even a woman) is attractive enough, he/she can be downright inappropriate and it can be interpreted as playful. so he gets the leniency women get in criminal stuff, temporarily - assumed to be innocent and 'too good/pure to do that kind of thing' (avoids even suspicion).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 01:34 PM
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In the past, women were blocked / did not have the same access that men did.. In the past, among the 1% that could even be considered for going to university, universities themselves expected fewer women because there was less demand (no need for a job of this tier, when rich) and less reason for rich women to go in higher education (comfortable using the money without going for a MBA). But a few women did show up, and they graduated. Now when bursaries and loans became the new normal, it went o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/25 01:21 PM
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Men are not a collective, and afaik, don't vote pro-men laws in any country. Where retirement is at different ages, its not men who retire earlier, but women. Even if it was a majority men who set this up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 04:48 PM
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The majority of people who commit violent crimes are men, and therefore no surprise that they make up the majority of our prison population. but at most 55%, not 94%, meaning we're awfully lenient to female criminals and the opposite to male ones a lot of violent crimes committed by women are not counted as crimes, not suspected of being crimes, and they're not watched for crimes they could (an do) commit in circumstances we would completely not trust men and where victims can't speak, literally…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 04:45 PM
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A minority of our sex faces a higher risk of violence mostly due to the personal decisions we tend to make like participating in illegal activity or taking up certain careers such as law enforcement or the military that see a lot of violence. If a criminal is about to randomly assault, mug or kill a person in the street, 75% chance its a man he picks (regardless of his career or proximity to a bar fight). And high chances he has socially-ingrained ideas about disgust towards harming women (more …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 03:35 PM
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to identify where women are getting left behind in leadership Male billionaires are all mega investors. They take huge financial risk. Women are more risk-averse. In a society where everyone starts with 1 million $, there would be more male billionaires than female ones. But most men would lose their money. More women who start with 1 million would keep it. But not fructify it to a billion. Something like 50% of men would keep the million, but 70% of women would. While 1% of men make it to a bil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 02:53 PM
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This described pattern of Women making demands and Men seemingly giving up on attempting to communicate seems to fit with a theory of voluminous unreasonable demands coming from the female partners in these relationships which cause the male partner to cease investment of effort in communicating. That's totally how a patriarchy would play out, right? What with women supposedly being raised to be caring, put themselves second, care for the husband, and the husband being totally selfish. What did …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/25 01:28 AM
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and now 'modern audience' implies being brainwashed by the woke, not progressive, but incredibly preachy dogmatic, and thinking that race and gender are the only things that should matter politically or socially.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 04:14 PM
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Men are conditioned to not show emotions by bullies and authority figures (both male and female) treating it like a weakness, making you a fair target for mockery, ridicule or even a beating. Much like in the animal world, where showing you are injured is a sure way to be hunted right off by a predator (and most animals know better than to show injury or weakness when adult). But we don't treat women this way as a society. There is allowance for crying, being sad or complaining. Even if most peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 03:23 PM
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Most adult humans nowadays in 2025 (born in 1990s+), can't cook. They were never taught. Men or women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 01:48 PM
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When it stopped being punch card stuff physically doing the automating, and became the instruction programming part. Went from busywork to technical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 01:45 PM
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Whether Grok is more factually accurate I do not know. I do believe it's less biased towards misandry specifically. The others aren't less-biased towards misandry, they just stop themselves from ever being misogynist (or even appearing like it vaguely, agreeing with generalized statements against women) out of concern for precious women. Something they never do for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 01:40 PM
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Yeah the other LLMs are getting specific instructions override to take kids glove with women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/25 01:26 PM
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ADHD is both overdiagnosed and overmedicalized. There probably are better way to help energetic boys concentrate on something and learn the discipline to be able to do it on demand (even when its something you don't necessarily like - as at some point, duty demands). If I had been born a bit later and not been a straight A student, I would have been given ADHD meds, because I was daydreaming (ie bored)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 01:24 AM
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They're also calling Elon an incel, with 14 kids.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 11:41 PM
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Lots of people chose to stay home, or voted against the movie by voting the other movie, regardless of who 'the other' is. Since there is no other option.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 03:36 PM
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But people who are leftists are disillusioned by the current idpol left are not voting yes to the right, they're down-voting the left. Like when a film company puts a trailer that's shit, and it gets downvoted more than upvoted. When that happens, it doesn't mean "we hate you, you're not x company of movies" but "that's shitty, work on your act and maybe we like". Why do you think Bernie was getting popular? Because he was proposing universal policy for all. Not helping migrants and poor POCs on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 02:16 PM
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he is a huge sociopathic asshole with enormous amount of privilege, and just can't understand that most men aren't huge sociopathic assholes. To be fair, feminist theory says all men are sociopathic assholes, just because its rewarded socially and economically. But absent very difficult positions (literally having no other choices), most people abstain from being assholes intentionally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 02:03 PM
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Trump spoke like this about Bloomberg and Desantis and ended up being the leader for the US. Pretty sure he won because of people voting against the other side (not for Trump or Reps, but against Dems so they actually win their vote and not take it for granted), who though they couldn't lose even if their only rhetoric was "at least we're not them". Anyone could have won. It was a vote to punish the Dems, and not celebrate the Reps. Chances are the next president is not a Rep (and definitely not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 01:30 AM
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I don't care who they are, the method is bad. Period. I don't subscribe to the 'no bad methods, just bad targets'. I have principles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 12:38 AM
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Then she can criticize his ideas, and not just do the equivalent of yelling 'stupid stupid stupid'. I have no idea who AOC is and if her ideas stand up to scrutiny, and don't know Miller what he does, or his ideas. Just Ad hominems are the signs you abandoned fighting and decided you want a cheat button by invoking a mob.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 12:33 AM
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Calling them schoolyard insults isn't helping, it says they can't debate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 12:19 AM
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The "be kind" approach isn't working. Except people don't vote right or not-vote-left because they think the right are bad-ass. But because it doesn't insult or presume the worst out of their entire demographics for existing. It also doesn't conveniently forget them in policies while working for others. And I'd say a lot of people vote against the Dems as a 'get your act together!' warning. Because if you keep voting for them day in day out, they never know they're doing it wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 06:03 PM
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Imagine someone saying someone has Angry Black Man Energy, and that it not racist because its not saying he's black, or that being black is bad, but that a stereotype of black men applies to him. That's Olympic tier.
/r/MensRights07/10/25 05:43 PM
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Lifetime stats are notably correcting towards stereotypes from recollection. Basically, regardless of our actual past, we tend to re-contextualize our lives as 'more normal' for our demographics, so men will more often deny having been assaulted, even when it was recorded as a crime.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/25 11:18 PM
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The most obvious is women wanting to remain without apparent muscles. That's the most socially-driven phenomena ever. And I don't mean not look like body builders. I mean any muscles. The likes of Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles in Supernatural, neither being hulking or super strong (they're noticeably less built than wrestlers, who do make-believe combat, without hindering their walking). This drive to want to remain without apparent muscle is what makes women over-invest in cardio, and stay …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 01:52 PM
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The reasonable ones are kicked out if they find any degree of being known (kicked for being reasonable, like thinking equality also applies to men, like right now, and not 'after smashing patriarchy'). Like the woman who made the Red Pill documentary. She 'betrayed' feminism by not doing dirty journalism about MRAs, and that was enough to boycott and demand the closing of her showings in many countries (they succeeded in Spain, that feminist stronghold).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 05:08 AM
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Bad analogy unless you really expect me to believe Trudeau and Biden were elected primarily because people (including many millions of men) wanted and expected them to make men's issues harder to address? Biden literally campaigned in 2020 on removing due process protections that DeVos (under Trump) instated to protect people from being kicked out of universities based on shaky proof and a single investigator that has very big incentives to find the accused guilty (to the point of manipulating t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 05:02 AM
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Did I hire a white person in a non-white person's role? What men experienced before feminism was indifference at the idea of helping them, now its hostility at the idea of helping them. Even if I only focus on the idea of male DV victims by institutions, and not contempt levied at men generally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 04:28 AM
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As though those individuals are specifically why men's issues barely get addressed if at all. Depends if those individuals are head of groups in India, Israel, or named Mary P Koss. Or important enough in NOW, or named Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau. Lots of important people who made it harder to address male victims and problems of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 12:13 AM
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I think the criminal justice system is totally and completely broken and results in hundreds of thousands of innocent men being literally enslaved and tortured for shit they didn't do. Most people here are onboard this, but that's a gargantuan task that might not even be half-done by the time 2100 rolls around. Not discriminating against male DV victims in police intervention policies, shelter funds, and actual shelters. That's right now, doable, easily. Feminists who get those funds now just ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 11:32 PM
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Women were always being sheltered and given more support well before even the first wave of feminism. That's true, but tradcons didn't make helping men into something evil 'helping the oppressors' or manipulate statistics to make male victims invisible. Tradcons are transparent: we prefer women, men need bootstraps. Feminists don't say men have issues but we're not fixing them, they say men have no issues worth fixing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 04:43 PM
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No, they just put additional barriers. Before, tradcons were against recognizing male victims. After, tradcons and progressives are against recognizing male victims. Now is worse. Seems you didn't read my comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 04:35 PM
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Because they could bully you even worse. At least, that's how they see it. That's the treatment they give people they call incels. Regardless of why they're called this way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 04:10 PM
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Yeah some dudes in here are absolutely absessed with feminism, but if feminism magically disappeared today none of men problem's would be solved. The problems caused by feminism would be solved. Like insisting its actually egalitarian to ignore male victims of DV and rape. It's one thing to have tradcons decide ignoring the male victims is for the best, and another for the 'equality' people to say they got it covered while not only ignoring the problem, but covering it up so no one else can do a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 01:51 PM
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Why are they represented in majority of homicides? (Do you think these men may be involved in gangs where murder is the norm)? Random murders/muggings, done by people not known to the victim, are not intergang murders. They just target a random civilian, and happen to have a disgust against targeting lone women. So they target lone men, or couples where they threaten the man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 01:48 PM
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while women stayed safely at home Middle class or higher, and sometimes only rich or higher (who had the privilege of not being forced to work). Most women worked. Maybe not always 72 hours weekly schedules (on farms, it probably was), but they sure did work. And the only work conditions not accommodated was pregnancy. And we know companies would have accommodated it by preferentially not hiring women. Only those who really really need to attract high level talents would have bent backwards to a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 02:12 PM
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I looked up the article about career women in Japan on wikipedia. It says there was discrimination by companies (possible), but then cited companies requiring women to be just as work-obsessed, not miss days, do overtime as that discrimination. And no. Those companies also expect men not to take paternity leave (even if its generously offered), or lose all chances of career advancement. It would be weird not to expect the same of women. It's not discrimination. Basically, those career women are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 02:10 PM
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You have twice the comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 01:17 AM
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A man without a weapon being apprehended by police is likely to be put face first to the ground before being hand-cuffed. A woman attacking police with a weapon thats not a fire-arm, is at most going to be tased, not going to be put face first to the ground. If she attacks bare-handed, she won't even be tased. The man above was not putting up any resistance. The drunken woman was assaulting police.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 07:12 PM
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but I think you could argue that it is because the consequences of violent men are more severe than violent women. Then it would be punished on a case basis, but you argue for a stereotype basis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 06:28 PM
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If you need a specific drug cocktail produced in your brain only during childbirth to endure pain, its artificial. Like saying peridural pain tolerance is your normal levels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 06:12 PM
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We also tend to punish the consequences of violence and not the violence in itself. When women use weapons, they are not punished for the consequences. Except death, supposing they are suspected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 06:10 PM
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This, 1000% this. I've always hated the advice "Just be yourself", because it's vague and unactionable. It should be more like "Do the things you genuinely want to do for yourself, and connect with the people you encounter along the way, rather than trying to mold yourself to force a connection with people you don't have anything in common with."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 05:27 AM
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If you're not effortlessly suave by literally waking up, you're 'a try hard'. If you need to understand psychology and how people behave, that's trying to cheat, and not at all finding out your own behavior that was counter productive and trying to be better. Unless you are born a god, you're cheating, and if you are born a god, its because the system was rigged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 05:25 AM
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What I mean is, a lot of the time feminist in my experience are performative in the way of they don’t actually care for equality or will tend to only care about equality in areas when it affects them but don’t actually care about equality or don’t even truly treating both sexes with respect and would rather belittle men as a whole That works if your whole thesis is that men are always advantaged over women in every ways and only women ever need to raise up to that level, and then equality is ach…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 05:20 AM
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Ironically, she can rape by threatening to accuse him of rape if he doesn't comply.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/25 11:32 PM
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They're saying its the 'image' of success, but its actually fascism. A very loud voice saying 'we represent you' and actually not letting dissent happen. The Duluth model might favor female abusers, but it doesn't help female victims at all since it misdiagnoses the problem as some boogieman and completely misses female abusers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/25 06:04 PM
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For thousands of years nobody could vote, now we can vote people the oligarchs handpicked (thus no real choice or voice). But hey that few decades where some men could vote and almost no women could, that's the one thing that matters the most!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/25 05:13 PM
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literally back to well before women were permitted to vote Pleb men also couldn't vote, and those were most men. Back when landowners were the only voters, it was a notion that it was 1 household 1 vote, not 1 man 1 vote. Thus he was representing the household. Chances he voted male-favoring things are about null. Because I know of no law favoring men as men (rich as rich, yes).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 11:48 PM
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Men as a class weren't the enemy, men didn't conspire against women, men didn't steal stuff from women as a class, and were not oppressing women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 09:42 PM
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The Declaration of Sentiments more or less declared men as a class as the enemy and oppressor of women, since forever. That was over 150 years ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 07:39 PM
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What's weird is that she got custody of the product of rape on a minor. No convicted male pedophile would have the right to be near a minor, even his own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 03:23 PM
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If you shoot that down, they likely won't ever get to our side. Ideologically captured people by feminism won't ever be for men's rights. That's dead right off. They'd have to be deprogrammed first, and coddling the ideology won't help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/25 05:56 PM
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The demented feminist take that men dying in mines or on the battlefield or breaking their backs in the fields while women were home taking care of their gazillion children was somehow male privilege is entirely disconnected from any kind of reality. It's nothing more than pseudo intellectuals reading history books, seeing male names and thinking "women where set aside". They were not, they were in the safety of homes, where history doesn't happen, living twenty years older than their husbands. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 05:04 PM
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The demented feminist take that men dying in mines or on the battlefield or breaking their backs in the fields while women were home taking care of their gazillion children was somehow male privilege is entirely disconnected from any kind of reality. It's nothing more than pseudo intellectuals reading history books, seeing male names and thinking "women where set aside". They were not, they were in the safety of homes, where history doesn't happen, living twenty years older than their husbands. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 05:04 PM
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I can be happy Mary Daly is dead, but not happy about the way it happened if it was an assassination. And not grave-dance right after the assassination. I'd have to have been a personal victim of the person to feel so strongly I have to gloat. Like they proposed and voted (as a senator/president) a law that deported my family, themselves. I could see people gloating about Biden dying if his VAWA or Dear Colleague thing ruined their personal life, its his 'crowning glory' stuff. He gloats about i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 04:38 PM
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Sometimes the shitty behavior is not a 'despite this' but a 'because of this'. In a 'well they're exciting' way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 04:33 PM
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but if you think that at any point in history the abuse rates have been comparable then this discussion is fruitless and best and wilfully ignorant at worst. I think they're comparable now. I don't know about the far past as it would be speculation. Police have been trained to ignore male victims as a matter of policy, if they weren't already biased against helping male victims from their upbringing. I wouldn't trust police rate on DV, much like I wouldn't trust a company to report how corrupt t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/25 02:00 AM
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LOL they legally can't open bank accounts but they're not forced to not work There was no law against opening bank accounts, but there was also no law saying banks couldn't refuse it. Later, there was anti discrimination law and that forced the banks to accept it. Most women worked (like 80-90%+ historically and 97% in third world). Most women didn't have bank accounts, because it was not necessary. Deal with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/25 01:54 AM
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Normally you should have some form of protection services. And in a less illegal form of prostitution, those would be bodyguards that are totally legit and paid on the payroll, with job security, insurance and all the stuff. Not a pimp who's likely to also be the one doing the abusing, and not in such a backwater area of town that there isn't enough bodyguards to go around. A prostitute can refuse any client for any reason. A CS rep can't refuse much and the most they can do is kick someone out …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 06:50 PM
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but historically as we’ve established, women did not have their own money, and so they were often trapped in abusive relationships. Both men and women were trapped in abusive relationships. He didn't have an out, and he was mandated by law to take care of her. If she ran debts, he was to pay them. And if he couldn't: debtor's prison for him. Imagine a vindictive wife able to use this. And being able to not work not seen as a privilege is weird, to me. It's not like you're forced to not work. You…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 06:30 PM
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Feminists influenced primary aggressor to happen, and primary aggressor to be defined as the bigger one, and the 'less fearful' (which thanks to 'patriarchy' where men admitting fear is unlikely to be accepted as valid or something that signals wanting help - but just them failing to be manly). Basically 'arrest the man'. A man could have documented injuries and videos of being berated and a psychologist note that he's greatly suffering psychologically that courts will most often not have a rest…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 06:23 PM
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We objectify a form of our selves whenever we sell labor, objects we created, or our time. This is when we are 'means-to-an-end', when you're "the person preparing food" and treated as a shortcut much like a food dispenser machine would be. Basically, the entire labor force. Including the 'unpaid labor'. Outside of a village where we all know each other, we treat others (as, in strangers, not your SO or family, and ideally not your friends) like objects (ideally still respectfully) who are there…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 05:21 PM
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I think customer service can be a lot more humiliating, and you can't pick your clients, nor talk back, got to smile the whole time too. Except for people returning merchandise, its also likely to have angry customers, who take it out on you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 05:15 PM
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is that even in that post-Victorian period, as we saw ‘modern’ society develop in the way it did, women were excluded from the workforce, excluded from opening a bank account, faced huge pay disparities, and were encouraged (if not outright told) to leave their jobs and raise children. excluded from the workforce Not the entire workforce, only certain jobs considered at the time closed off to women. A lot of jobs were also considered closed off to men. And a consideration was the possibility of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 01:22 AM
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HEAL includes doctors, veterinarians and dentists, no? I'd say those doctorate jobs are pretty highly valued. in STEM, only engineers tend to be highly valued. By companies. Socially, only in as much as it carries a high wage. The theoretical science branch is not highly valued, and the math branch is valued only by insurance companies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 01:00 AM
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To justify that fact, they say things like "men are worse at politics, law making, running business," anything that gives women power should stay primarily female because women are superior. But in making this justification, they also say "oh, and women are so much more powerful than men so they should also go fight in wars, it's only right to protect the weak, innocent men" If its forced at gunpoint, yes. If its voluntary its sketchy to incite through flattery but not misogyny. If the 'incitati…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 12:51 AM
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We do not look to a return to a past of rigid gender roles prominent in the ‘manosphere’. This is overstated, its the 'image' of the MRAs from propaganda, not actually what they believe. It doesn't even come from bastardizing what they believe. It flows from feminist dogma, the premises are as so: 1) Discrimination/sexism flows only one way from men to women. Any problem men have is a side effect of harming women, and any problem women cause is in service of male supremacy. then logically 2) Sin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 12:31 AM
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If doing sex work to have money to eat is rape, doing any work you don't specially enjoy to have money to eat is slavery. And I agree it is slavery, and should be done away with. But won't happen before The Great Automation and UBI-for-all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 12:05 AM
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From drug abuse or mental illness all the way to sex slaves or extortion from the mafia. You could say the same about any kind of work. The only shady thing about sex work is when selling or buying services is illegal, so must be done in shady places to not get caught or scare customers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 11:52 PM
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Yes, weird that people actually use logic and not an unfalsifiable ideological entity called patriarchy. They think words have meaning, and apply those consistently, the horror! Note that I'm not downvoting you on any of the ~100+ comments you've had. I think they contribute to the discussion, but they're just oh so very wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 04:46 PM
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there are men who don’t believe women should work The notion of 'women not working' is something that happened at the end of the Victorian era and up until the great recession (think 1870-1929). Before this, the notion of not working was laughable for all but the rich at the top (think doctors, business owners). For a brief period of time, even the upper middle class with professions like police officer, could afford to live a middle-class lifestyle, and live on a single wage. And because it was…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 04:43 PM
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But regardless, a feminist might say that the entire system for how we understand motherhood is a product of misogyny, because we have relegated women's role to be exclusively motherhood. I'd say being forced to be a breadwinner and dropped in a ditch if you don't or can't provide is just as much hatred. For 99.999% of humanity's existence, working was not 'fulfillment' for the vast vast majority of people who aren't literally born rich. It's how they eat from week to week, its an obligation. No…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 04:35 PM
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"why didn't they also ban MGM at the same time as FGM" when no religion in the US practices FGM. It's worldwide that the UN condemned it (because of feminist orgs), not just in the US. And a lot of Muslims practice FGM for religious reasons, and the US generally don't for religious reasons (Jewish and Muslims are ~1% of US population, circumcision rate has hit as high as 80% in the US). False accusations of any crime is not a crime in and of itself. When done to the police it is. It's at the ver…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 04:23 PM
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Africa its cultural, thanks to Gates foundation
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 03:34 PM
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That's very recent, and female privilege must be protected from men (since its innate), while male privilege needs some form of proof. So basically, women can do 'masculine superficial things' because they're (the things) not 'masculine'. As a masculine thing is only proof of being competent, not pants. More like a Rolex (proof of wealth, useful to provide). But anything designed to improve individuality and appearance is seen as vanity and feminine, and thus something men shouldn't do. Despite …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 12:20 AM
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"Though for some reason men are more restricted by gender norms" ... I think it's because of misogyny telling (all of us but including) men that being feminine is bad, it's shameful to be feminine if you're a man, etc etc It makes way more sense to say its shameful for a man to 'abandon his duty', and anything unmasculine is said to be a distraction. Going as far back as the bible railing on men disguising as women to avoid conscription, back in Roman empire times or older. Those pesky men and t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 04:21 PM
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when it is misogynistic thinking that led to women getting custody most of the time The Tender Years Doctrine was from one aristocratic woman, in the 19th century. She likely couldn't vote, and wasn't married to a king, but singlehandedly changed the custody system for the entire West hereafter. Just by asking for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 04:16 PM
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They just defined their dogma as men being advantaged on all axis, so you ONLY need to raise women to that level and you can stop there, as your work is done, its 'equal' then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 04:14 PM
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They consider that you get room and board. You'd have to abandon your apartment and get some locker thing to put your stuff for a few years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 03:55 PM
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I think we should highlight that the issues are mainly stemming from the idea that masculinity is superior to femininity I don't think this is definitely true. If we go outside the superficial, masculinity as a whole is about being mechanically useful, while feminity as a whole is about caring (generally) and raising one's own kids. Neither is superior, and in theory, both are equally needed. Everything else, like pants vs skirt, make up, fancy hairdos, pink - that's superficial and not needed. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 02:05 AM
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Have you wondered why the trans discourse always seems to revolve around men transitioning to women and not the other way around? I think it comes from the point of view that it's "natural" for women to want to be men, it's "unnatural" for men to want to be women. And why is that? It's because men are inherently superior Or because the nobles protect their turf from being invaded by the plebs. Which makes way more sense, since nobody cares about people slumming or how 'debasing' it is to their i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 12:12 AM
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Except its saying men are the equivalent of capitalists (those with the keys to power, the gods, the ones worshipped), not people navigating the system.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/25 05:32 PM
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Women's problems should be discussed and addressed, women need care (because they are the weaker sex, right?) Maybe that's the spiel to get you to care about it (and/or sacrifice for others), but women are not cared about out of being weaker (or perceived as weaker), but out of being considered more valuable. How much empathy the wimpy nerd getting bullied by the entire school provides? About zero? But he's weak right? But nobody cares about the weak.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 02:09 PM
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I also find the stigma to male cheerleaders disgusting. It's simultaneously enforces unnecessary gender structures on both I think it's a "this is a girl thing, you better not try that!" where women try to gatekeep female-coded stuff to be able to 'build a sense of identity' around it, and they do this by ridiculing men who try it. The gatekeeping of male-coded stuff is less enforced, by fewer people, and for much toothless consequences. Anything strongly-coded as female, in the present, even if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 05:03 AM
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for example i saw a clip the other day of a very famous media host making fun of men who are doing cheerleading Like George W Bush? You know cheerleading was a male thing before it became a skirt thing? https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/image-editorial/M8z1I91eM2Dfgd46Nzgz/george-w-bush-left-head-cheerleader-photo-1500w-324433c.jpg
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/25 11:38 PM
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Women are just as capable of being radicalized as men, it's just that society doesn't see the untruths that feminism spreads as being harmful. mainstream media is one of the bigger culprit in spreading feminist propaganda like its the New Gospel, and pre-Musk Twitter was an echo chamber, largely because it would censor anyone going against the orthodoxy as 'misinformation'.
/r/MensRights14/09/25 03:29 PM
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Yeah, boys and men self harm at a lower rate Or alcoholism is how men self-harm
/r/MensRights14/09/25 03:24 PM
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ER stats typically count any self harm (typically cutting) as a suicide attempt, and this juvenile prison thing likely also did. This is where you get the 'women attempt 3x more' stat. But ER stats will miss many, who don't go to ER. Prison stats won't miss people, who are captive. Hence the 50x.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 08:08 PM
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Hahahaha never seen what a women's prison is like huh? You would think so but they're not. Especially since most of the victimless crime women wouldn't be in prison (usually because they're pregnant/mothers, as apparently fathers don't matter in a 'patriarchy'). While in the men's prisons, you'll have people there for simple possession and small-time dealers. So the ratio of violent prisoners would be higher on the women's side. Simply because the non-violent ones are spared prison already.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 08:06 PM
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rather than advocating for this to be done for boys, people are angry about it happening for girls Because its a sign, a sure sign from past occurrences, that it will NEVER happen for boys. If the campaigning for the bettering of work conditions had been gendered in the early 1900s, you can be sure men would still do 72 hours a week to women's 40.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 08:00 PM
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There is no point in doing it gender by gender, and we all know when they start with women, they conveniently 'forget' to EVER do it for men (like genital mutilation). So yes, for fairness, its all or nothing.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 07:58 PM
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about 2/3 of victims of murder amongst native Canadians, were male, but because the notion was "by other men", it was easy to dump the thing and only focus women - although natives themselves disagreed and championed the men.
/r/MensRights12/09/25 07:56 PM
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and self-harm is not a suicide attempt A suicide attempt should be something that could have been lethal, but was aborted in time, or missed. Not vaguely hurting yourself and you could have bled to death if you were hemophile (but not otherwise).
/r/MensRights11/09/25 04:20 PM
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Cutting yourself with the intent to live through it, is not a suicide attempt. Much like drinking past ethylic coma is usually not.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 04:18 PM
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It seems to me that the reason girls were chosen is that they make up a small fraction of the prison population and are disproportionately affected by the trauma(?). Yea, sure, they're doing it to girls 'first'. When's that commission on missing and murdered indigenous men coming? Oh right, never. They don't do 'women first', they do 'women only'.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 04:15 PM
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Depends where. I know in north america for the most part anesthesia is used nowadays but never used to be. On older kids maybe, on newborns, its too strong. So they only put sugar on a pacifier.
/r/MensRights09/09/25 01:03 PM
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It's also generally done with anesthesia now so it does look calm to most parents (you hear a lot of "my baby slept right through it"). Anesthesia is too strong for a newborn, so they can't give them any.
/r/MensRights09/09/25 12:52 PM
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Yes, that's why Zegler's Snow White did so well. /s In fact, she killed her own career by being the stereotype of an insufferable feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/25 01:12 AM
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cooperating, a corporation woman sounds weirdly dystopian
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 07:25 PM
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Institutional feminism, the one getting people elected, and the one people elected (Biden, Trudeau etc) use in their policies, the one Sarkeesian and other grifters invited to speak at the UN use, the one represented by what NOW lobbies for or against. The feminism that justified gendering a committee on missing indigenous people into one solely about women, and completely ignore men - who represent 2/3 of the victims. And its not like it was splitting it into 2 committees, with the second one c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 07:21 PM
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Getting to spend time with your own children is a priceless privilege that women will tell you with a straight face is oppression. I truly enjoyed every second. I do not understand how so many women hate their kids. its "woe is me, I do everything" thing to feel self-important
/r/MensRights07/09/25 02:36 PM
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Right-wing men in the manosphere are stuck blaming promiscuous women for their problems As much as they might do on forums, it doesn't result in any actual measures taken against them in practice. If anything, laws tend to target male customers of prostitution, men who intentionally stay bachelors. Like they're seen as 'evading' the natural order of things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 06:41 PM
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I mean, ultimately, there's a man at the top making the decisions. You're arguing my point for me, but coming across as if we're disagreeing. There's a man more accountable to women than men, it seems. So his boss is women. He's an executive, someone doing the work and bearing the blame. Not the one taking the decisions. Same for family units. The man is the one 'officially taking decisions' historically. But that means he's the one blamed, jailed for debts his family incurs, imprisoned for crim…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 05:00 PM
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I think that pre 1950, the roles were different, and women had equally strict (to men's) "responsibilities and assignments", but unless you were the kind to want to go 'adventuring' (might sound nice in games, but its more or less actual 'death at 25' in the real world), there was precious little difference in your life trajectory. If you were rich and a firstborn male, you were more likely to inherit, but then being rich is the hard thing to land on the lottery. And the woman the firstborn male…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 03:45 PM
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My point is that, in the 1950s, a man would be easily accepted as a manager in a factory, or a doctor. A woman would not be. You'd have better say 1850. By 1950, women were 6% of doctors, not the 0.01% culture try to portray it as. And much like today, being a doctor came to $. You had to be born wealthy to afford the studies. Not male. To go back to my grandparents example, one grandfather was an electrician and the other was a delivery driver, then a bus driver. Those jobs weren't available to…
/r/MensRights06/09/25 02:56 PM
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because they hate money?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 11:30 PM
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Yea, the second is called being a fool, I guess. and the second is, well, it's a parent/child relationship No, more like adopting a cat and letting it have your PIN number for your credit card. You think you own the cat, the cat owns you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 11:13 PM
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Also, the argument that women don’t have agency over their actions could be used to justify not hiring women, etc., but that’s a discussion for another time. It could also be an argument for criminal women to launch bigger businesses in crime, knowing they'll get a slap on the wrist.
/r/MensRights05/09/25 11:09 PM
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Heck even water if you look at some of the gimmicky bottled water concepts. Lots of places have metered water for citizens, not just companies, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 10:44 PM
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but its been hijacked by people who want superiority right at the declaration of sentiments, so it didn't last long, I guess less time than Russia Communism actually lasted. When Lenin died (very early in the revolution - I suspect poisoning, an assasination), it became an authocratic state that pretends to be socialist. Because Stalin obviously wanted the power, not power-to-the-people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 04:01 PM
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See UN statistics its WEF aka The Oligarchs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 03:59 PM
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States are reluctant to go to war. Anarchism is a state of nature, which is war of all against all, constantly. I think that of all the possible political systems, the Asimov robot R Daneel Olivaw chose the least likely to lead to the instinction of humanity, and chaos: a galactic empire centralized with just one person at its helm. Then, when it stagnated, engineered its fall to be replaced with some other political entity (Foundation) acting in a similar way (as the central authority, with one…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 03:55 PM
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Feminists have done amazing work in the gay liberation movement and doing dv shelters for men Amazing work opposing DV services for men. In Italy, a hotline for male DV victims was called to be removed, by feminists, for being whataboutism to a non-existent problem, and removing focus from violence against women. VAWA replaced a gender neutral law. For decades, grants for research could focus on women, both genders, but never men - they would not be eligible. For decades, surveys asked victim qu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 03:22 PM
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I would claim a patriarchy is a system where the leaders are men, and I think this is objectively true. in this system, the women can puppeteer the elected men to do their bidding, so why would they risk their health and time to do it themselves, when someone else is willing to do it for free? They can then deny having any hand in it, plausible deniability + the power. Best of both worlds, since not accountable to anyone. Biden passed VAWA (replacing a gender neutral DV law) and signed the Dear …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 02:19 PM
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Biden wrote the Dear Colleague, and gendered VAWA. I'd say he was sold to feminism at birth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 02:14 PM
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and you using Terminator and Alien as token examples of "good representation" I'm saying good representation was happening 40-50 years ago. It didn't need the rise of DEI to happen, it was organic, too. Ripley didn't need to tell the men 'step aside bozos, mama is coming', or something to imply she's better. She just showed it by being badass. And fans of sci-fi, the kind of people on KiA (so gamers who are annoyed at the woke takeover of big studios), actually liked it. An example of woke is th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 02:04 PM
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Like, there's this pretty persistent theme of the kind of "normal" everywoman, who is selected by this rich man that could have everything/anyone he wanted, and choose her, takes care of her, and allows her to simply exist in a world insulated from the difficulties of reality. It essentially sets this fantasy of infantilizing a woman, marketed at women. That's being a VIP, not being infantilized. Or will you go rant at rich people that they're doing it wrong by hiring maids and chefs and chauffe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 01:34 PM
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If you're using imagination, you're also cheating, I bet. Because you sourced it somewhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 01:31 PM
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A game I play with my wife is whenever we go through the book aisle we check out the titles to make fun of them. A show in Québec of a fictional family of an humorist François Morency, has a recurring gag where his mother is reading and talking about Danielle Cuivre (copper in French), a joke on Danielle Steel. And they talk about innuendo-laden titles that are more funny than dirty, all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 07:21 PM
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DanMachi aka "Is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon", is full of harem stuff. But the MC is pure, innocent, naive, heroic and doesn't do anything specially romantic for the women to fall in love with him (just save their lives once in a while). He mostly exists-around-them, while being nice, and not telling them off. He also refuses any advances from any of his harem, except the one he's in love with, Ais. And that's a plot point, he has huge stats growth, for as long as he keeps being in lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 07:11 PM
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Also, dark tetrad traits don't need reinforcement in women, or men for that matter, they are just attractive traits. They're often used in 'dark' ways, clearly sociopathic. And this is not discouraged. Rather than say some suave men can be sociopathic and misogynistic, they'll bash celibate men for not getting action, 'deducing' that it must be bad character, because obviously, we live in a just and fair world, where the villains get punished all the time, no one cheats, and no one steps on no o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 07:04 PM
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Its even weirder when the race so stereotyped internalizes it. Like calling punctuality white behavior. Said by black people in the Smithsonian museum thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 06:58 PM
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Can you imagine something similar for young boys? The Idol scene in Japan, I can imagine it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 06:51 PM
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You'll never be the leader if you're not a man, but the vast majority of men never become the patriarch either. Maybe we're rounding the corner to something more like a Kyriarchy, but at the end of the day the people in this position are male by default, and women in positions of power, especially at the highest of the high ends of society, are more the exception that proves the rule. The richest people in the world are all men, the leaders of countries are still predominately men, and still the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 06:13 PM
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but then the next video she uploads is about why woke games are bad. That's perfectly sensible to want studios to make games for their audience, not what they imagine their audience is. Niche indies can make games for wokes (like Concord, Dustborn), but AAA studios would suicide trying this (like Dragon age). It's not that it has women, or racialized people, or LGBT people (plenty of entertainment would disagree that this would kill your franchise: the first Alien and Terminator, Blade, Spawn). …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 03:47 PM
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Is there such a thing as an indentitarian moderate party though? They'd want a non-identitarian party that also isn't authoritarian.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/25 03:34 PM
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So to try and be leader of NPD, you need 50 signatures per region, at least 50% of your signatures can't come from cis men, and you need to have at least 100 from racialized or LGBT people, and 10% from youth.
/r/MensRights03/09/25 01:58 PM
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White people are guilty of nothing. True or not, you can induce guilt in people for any reason. This is the power of shame. Typically a feminine superpower. And largely why unrelated women (not the wife of the PM, but nobodies) could direct politics long before the vote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/25 01:32 PM
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Women’s roles are framed as cages, proof of oppression. and yet the fashion of women tends to be aristocratic show-offness, super long nails, impractical hairstyles, footwear you can't walk in. All traditionally aristocratic stuff (along with make-up) to show you're too rich to do manual work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 12:16 AM
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That rabbit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_of_Caerbannog
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 12:12 AM
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We don't tell mothers who want to work "Oh well, that job with inflexible hours isn't something you'd want anyway." We do tell mothers who want CEO positions or the likes that the 70 hours schedule is non-negotiable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 12:08 AM
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However, I really think we’re forgetting that women statistically have better emotionally intelligence than men. This isn’t to bash men, but rather to show how our current society has raised boys into men that have a tougher time emotionally. Women have been raised to have emotional diarrhea in public, this isn't emotional intelligence. This is just 'expressing everything the moment it happens'. In fact, when men express themselves this way positively, they're seen as gay (ie jumping in joy when…
/r/MensRights01/09/25 05:56 PM
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The left wants you to also be a protector and provider, but to accept being spit on for the service.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 03:11 PM
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Before women's vote it was supported by formal male power and informal female power (mothers education, influence of the mistresses and wives on male kings ministers and head of states). Wealthy women had lobbies without needing to be someone's mom or mistress, too. Powerful lobbies. The kind that can make Tender Years happen spontaneously. Or direct a Temperance movement they can't vote for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 02:53 PM
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and they did this 60 years ago, with Gloria Steinem working for the CIA
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 05:04 AM
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It's likely a man who had big sins in his past, and who thinks all men do, so he's redeeming himself by denouncing men. Ergo, a man who would chat up his students, when teaching (even in university, with adult students), is likely to think what he did wrong wasn't a personal failing, but a man-gene failing (because the dogma says so, not because it makes sense), and he only has to renounce his socialization and denounce the neanderthals, to be graceful again. And while the reasoning isn't bad (y…
/r/MensRights31/08/25 03:55 AM
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Now, i'm not saying that women weren't second class citizens in the past I'm not saying women don't or didn't have issues, but I'll disagree with the 2nd class citizen thing. I won't say men were the 2nd class citizen, either. Maybe men are now, since their issues are openly ignored and double standards are openly advocated for at the highest systemic level, as if it was the obvious thing to do. Like close women's prisons, but not rehabilitate men. Back 100+ years ago, women had less freedom, bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/25 04:30 AM
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It is true that most people in history couldn’t vote, but within whatever group did get political rights, women were systematically excluded because they were women. Because they weren't conscripted when it wasn't tied to landowning. And even then, the notion was 1 vote for 1 household. That’s not just "different," it’s second-class relative to men of their own class. And giving white feathers to 16 years old boys is treating them like first class citizens? "Go die in a war you were too young to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/25 05:11 PM
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Women were in a position where they were treated as second-class citizens, couldn't even vote, couldn't have property, etc. They were treated as different, but not second class. "Couldn't vote" was a thing for most people for millenia. For a small amount of time in the last 100 years, the plebs gained the vote, including women. It's not like plebian men have voted since forever. Landowners, and in Roman times, even richer, could vote. In-between Roman and now, many kingdoms where voting was not …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/25 10:38 PM
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historically it was helpful Accidentally helpful, certainly not due to ideology, but in spite of it. It's like missionaries in Africa, they're helping the locals in spite of the religion stuff, not because of the religion stuff.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/25 08:25 PM
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It's also a stretch to say that men are more violent as women hit men more. We rarely punish violence in and of itself - we tend to punish based on the consequences. As the physical consequences of women hitting men are almost always negligible we tend not to punish violent women as we do violent men. On top of that, women hit men with higher relative force, meaning that the impact is closer to the average woman's maximum physical output than it is when men hit women. Women compensate with weapo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 05:34 PM
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You got to compare mother and father to then go 'mothers most important'. Or you start from the assumption that fathers are just wallets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 05:31 PM
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No, wearing a skirt doesn't change anything, that's ridiculous Tunics used to be more or less dresses. Long equivalent to t-shirts, with a belt at the waist and flaring at the bottom, going to your knees. A unisex garment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 05:27 PM
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There's a reason these jokes are used most against people like Elon Musk and Trump. I get them being used against Trump, his will-he-wont-he tariffs are doing a number on the economy, and the suddenness of tariffs (no grace period to adjust) has left even US industries with lower margins. Then there's his talk of annexion of countries, Panama, and apparently Chicago. Musk's fault in this is merely believing Trump would be the horse to bet on. And I guess he was likely the only one able and willi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 03:31 PM
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What's more likely in my opinion is that someone who does rape would see this as justification to continue. Because "All men do it" could be seen as reason enough to not feel bad about their behaviour because it's "Normal". They tend to be male feminists, who act like every man has pulsions to rape, and that they, like them, can renounce them. When most simply don't have such pulsions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 12:01 AM
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They didn't say they want a slave. They want someone who would stick around. They can have effort on that person, too. But its better when you don't feel its wasted on someone who doesn't care enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/25 02:31 PM
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Lets not pretend shortness doesn't have its own basket of problems. or in the case, here, shortness isn't the cause, as much as dark triad the remedy for rejection and getting higher chances Short men aren't rejected because they're evil, but short men who get rejected a lot might be more tempted to use shadier methods. Because we know the world isn't fair, so being shady won't be punished, right? Being good and just isn't rewarded.
/r/MensRights24/08/25 12:33 AM
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I mean, given that almost 99% of rapists are men, I think the article is probably fine how it is. Only if you define rape as "penis penetrates victim" (like the UK). If not, its ~33-50% female on male. And for pure sexual assault (including groping), we simply don't know. Men aren't allowed to report this as a crime (or even a wrongdoing) as of now. Sexual assault (that isn't groping, more serious than this) and rape is hard to get authorities to recognize female perps, even with solid proof - i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/25 12:26 AM
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Just telling men that, they too, have to given consent, would make them more empathetic to the issue. As it stands, it feels like men are told to treat women differently than they themselves would be treated. See shit-talk-happens-in-videogames-women-most-affected type of issues. Men are told to grow a pair, women need to have knights defending them however. And for better or worse, almost anything sexual that happens to men in the workplace is also treated as 'that's actually nothing' when they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/25 03:11 PM
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Tell the feminists that, they invented all the man-neologism, and they're all negative towards men, not women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 02:42 PM
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Female aggression manifests less physically (but still does, just see drunk women and police/bouncers), but its definitely aggression. So "aggression is on the Y chromosome" fails the sniff test. I think the difference is we encourage male aggression to defend yourself, defend your honor, and essentially 'not be a victim' interpersonally. We even blame the guy who doesn't fight back (at least against men/boys, when it turns to fighting back a female bully, you're between a rock and a hard place …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 02:40 PM
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in Firefly, the zombie-like space cannibals are a result of an experience attempted on a colony to remove aggression with some aerosol-spread 'virus'. Result: 99% immediately dropped dead, out of no will to live, and 1% became zombie-rage-filled cannibals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 02:13 PM
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unpopular opinions in academia That's not saying "maybe x thing is a bad idea", or "maybe controversial thing is a good idea". It's saying that male humans are gangrene, a disease, of humanity. That they're better not existing. it's reasonable for him to speculate about a world in which the genes that promote aggression There is zero proof that aggression is encoded on the 23rd chromosome pair. Compare this claim with, for example, the claim that eliminating poverty in a city might reduce its cr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 08:26 PM
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And having negative views of the opposite sex is not a factor affecting sexual success for either men or women despite what is often claimed. It's just world fallacy. People want to think the world is fair, punishes bad people, rewards good people. And especially on society losers, if they're socially acceptable to kick on. Even the TV show Arcadia, says that people with a score around 3.0 (usually because of mental health, chronic health or unemployment issues - so essentially poverty), near th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 02:25 PM
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I don't understand why women are so adamant on wanting to be proven morally superior anyway, this has always hurt them more. They're attempting to outright close women's prisons. The assumption when the legal system meets women (meaning police, lawyers, judges, and juries), is that they didn't do it, they couldn't possibly be evil like that, or that their mental issues (or a man) made them do it. Assumptions never used for men, unless they're minors (ideally below 12) who look trustable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 02:14 PM
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how do you feel about women that drink while pregnant? Unlike TV shows that portray pregnancy is that one thing that could go wrong with one sip of wine, I think only regular binge drinking (ie 10-12 drinks in a few hours), or black-out-drunk tier drinking (15-25 drinks in a few hours) is going to do wrong. Even having a glass of wine every day should have no actual impact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 12:12 AM
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Men actually would prefer 50/50 custody, but their lawyer tells them that's an unlikely outcome unless she agrees right off. If she wants more, its off the table without fighting worth 6 digits. So few fathers can win. My parents divorced in 2003, and separated in 2001. My father asked for 50% custody of the 2 youngest (then 9 and 11, I was 21), and got 'every other weekend' at most. Because my mother asked for 100% custody, and got it. She was also bankrolled by the state for her lawyer, while …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/25 11:52 PM
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and then she rejects him, and then he's immediately aggressive or demeaning and rude? That's a result of PUA brainwashing and red pill bullshit. Nah, women can have that reaction without brainwashing, so I suspect men can, too. It's likely few of both though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/25 02:48 AM
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/r/MensRights18/08/25 09:41 PM
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who forms their understanding of the world from a rom-com movie they saw. But there's Pedro Pascal, he's everywhere.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 07:37 PM
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UBI (and large scale automation) is inevitable in the future. The only question is if it will come in my lifetime.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 07:34 PM
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They seem to conflate 'being in a couple' with 'having a housemate you can expect to stay for at least a year'. And the latter seems way easier to find if you're not already in a couple.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 07:33 PM
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Just see Spain, right? Crimes that are overtly 2-tier depending on the perp and the victim. Putting incentive to accuse men (and only men) of DV for punishing him, and for government money if you're poor. And if you lied, no problem, you won't get anything against you legally, and you keep the money from the lie.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 07:20 PM
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They wouldn't need to suffer any interruptions to their careers in order to have children, revert to traditional gender roles, lose access to abortion and contraception, or risk pregancy-related medical issues. Nice for the pregnancy related issues, but the rest isn't seen as a drawback for most women. It's seen as an excuse to stop working. Or work part-time. Newsflash: most people work for sustenance, not for fulfillment.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 03:23 PM
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and humans as batteries are the most inefficient way to run anything That was an excuse that humans decided was the truth. When machines just decided that preserving humans was better than killing them, just in case humanity comes around.
/r/MensRights18/08/25 02:25 PM
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The most sexist people I've ever met have been feminists because they treat men collectively like predators and evil, whilst simultaneously treating women like children who cannot be held responsible for their actions. See, they don't think women are weak, they think women are too angelic to be able to do evil. Like if you're so innocent and pure that evil is scared of you and cannot infect you. That's appeal to being so enlightened (and innately) you can't ever be barbaric. I think religious fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/25 03:29 PM
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It is the needs of the child that prevent men from being able to walk away, not the need of the mother. That would make safe haven and adoption require money from the mother, then (and I mean child support for 18-21 years). If he can't walk away without bilateral agreement, she shouldn't be able to, either. Or both should.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/25 01:57 PM
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This may be reactionary to social norms in the 50s where it was seen as right if a man hit both his wife and children. It was also seen as right for a woman to hit her husband and children. It was seen as 'private' when happening in the home, and within certain bounds. If it left huge marks (on the kids or the wife) it was certainly not seen as normal. Huge marks on him would have been seen as anything-but-DV however - and even if they knew or saw it, they wouldn't help him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 10:30 PM
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Well, autistic people call appearing normal to peers, regarding taboos and such, 'masking'. Because it actually takes effort to conform. It doesn't feel natural, or rewarding on its own. They tend to be very sincere and candid, though not necessarily 'I have to tell you what I think about you', more 'I won't lie to sweeten it'.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 12:45 AM
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Would have been the same with religion, if you polled 1960 people. And arguably, some of it is for the greater good, mainly the anti anti-social behavior stuff, and the stuff about accepting LGBT. Less the stuff about telling kids they might be LGTB before their teens.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 12:40 AM
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Trump is such a uniquely bad candidate that its embarrassing we needed convincing to vote the other way. Says a lot about how they took it for granted people would vote for them, while giving them nothing at all. "He's worse than us" is not a campaign.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/25 07:45 PM
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If you're a man, left wingers also. You only get (slight) exemption if you qualify as LGBTQ. But men get also vilification, and none of the respect for the position there, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/25 06:00 PM
1

I've heard that top male chess players have better scores than top players women There are much fewer female chess players period, and those who are at the pro level, seem to be less competitive (a risk-taking thing, not competence), not helped by kiddy-table tournaments where they can get just as much money as the open, without having to win vs the top tier male talent. So its 'less sparring', too.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 02:04 AM
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You can 'live a good life' without being an extrovert with tons of friends, being social, going to parties, etc. To me, that sounds like hell. It's super draining just being with people when its people I know (if more than 3) and we're doing nothing at all. I can't imagine going to a music concert. At least at the movies, you don't see other people much and you're concentrated on the screen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/25 12:51 AM
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Gynocentrism has never been a thing in conservative led countries in terms of power, only ever as squared hole to force people into. In many countries, conservative or not, only rape, sexual assault and DV victimization of women is considered. If legal sanctions involving hitting is legal on children or adults for non-criminal behavior (ie in schools, or to disperse pacific protesters), its only legal on boys and men (like in India). But no power is given to women of any class or low-class men t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/25 01:57 AM
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Why is the right wanting men to be superior to women I don't think the right wants this. The right recognizes the higher competitiveness in providership of men, and also recognizes the support motherhood brings to society, it doesn't say one is superior or better - only that you should keep in your lane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/25 01:53 PM
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The patriarchal implication is that women are weaker and need big strong men to make them safe and comfortable The real way it plays out, and has always played out, is they're considered the VIP, the aristocrats, and consider the men (or are encouraged to consider the men this way) their staff/soldiers/pawns. And the "I'm fragile, you're a big strong man" is just a ploy to justify him doing it to himself. Imagine a prime minister telling a plebian this to justify conscription. Now you could be p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/25 04:39 PM
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Of course, the historic reasons for this are that men could work when women were legally not allowed to work. Never happened. Not allowed to work in mines, maybe (and only after a lot of deaths). Not allowed to work at all? Not in our universe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/25 04:30 PM
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but sometimes it can also shift conservatives who have a more paternal view of protecting those they view are lessers in the family structure You seem to think women were viewed less before 'women and children' rhetoric, but gynocentrism is not recent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/25 01:47 PM
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Women are seen as less competent and capable just because they are women. in very specific male domains, and historically (not now), in leadership men are also seen as less competent and capable in female domains, but recently, they also added 'and predatory, too', since the notion that a male carer would be a pedo, because penis, is recent
/r/MensRights10/08/25 07:35 PM
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Young Sheldon has Sheldon as intelligent, and his father surprisingly too (given old Shelton description of him as a misogynist dumb guy), while his mother is the most irrational most of the time.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 07:37 PM
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Most women throughout history have worked (as in, all of history). They've not been servants confined in the home, unable to go to the market, or finding employment. Not being forced to work is a wealth privilege, historically confined to the wealthy class (rich) and during a small period of time (1850-1960) it was also affordable, in 1st world countries, to middle-class families. The poor women always worked, the working class women always worked, unless they married a middle-class husband, the…
/r/MensRights08/08/25 04:18 PM
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Tungsten
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:59 PM
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Also women weren’t in loads of studies. Give data of products that went on sale without being tested on women.
/r/MensRights07/08/25 04:58 PM
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Where it makes sense to blame her, is that she also expects it herself. My mother wouldn't go to the convenience store without make-up, and it's not because of whatever strangers would think on the way there, or the owner which she never knew the first thing about. It's all self-image. It's on a level of 'won't order fruity drinks because its shameful' levels of self-infliction
/r/MensRights07/08/25 06:38 AM
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in FFX-2, there's goons and goonettes in the gang of that weird treasure hunter woman. They all wear sorta veils hiding their faces (both men and women), making them literally faceless mooks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/25 04:09 PM
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Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress Or a shit test where you win concessions only when you resist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/25 01:32 PM
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If you are part of the demographic a drug is expected to be used in its in your best interest that your group is represented during its testing. And they are, when the product is about to go on market, its tested on women. By the time the product is available, its been tested by pretty much 50/50% men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/25 02:31 AM
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towards the power in place, the oligarchs, the government, not 'others' - this is what is feared, a rebellion with united men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/25 02:26 PM
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I figure the weird social behaviours of an ASD person is a giveaway, nervousness, becoming less talkative when there are more people in the room etc. difficulty in job interviews, getting answers out. Unless you want a manager-type position, those would not be strikes against a woman searching for work. I'm nervous, super introverted, I get nervous with anyone I don't know good, and I will blurt stupid stuff out when nervous (not like De Tourette, more like foot in mouth). And it would not kill …
/r/MensRights03/08/25 05:28 AM
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Can confirm, as a trans woman probably on high functioning autism side. My qualities on the social side would doom me to singlehood more or less forever, while post-transition, its harmless quirks, or being weird. Nothing crippling if they aren't hyper superficial. Especially as I don't have to be extroverted, lead, read minds or 'be interesting conversationally' just to have a foot in the door. I just need tics that aren't that visible, and to not be personality-bland (having some passion).
/r/MensRights03/08/25 05:25 AM
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Not sarcasm, a metaphor.
/r/MensRights02/08/25 11:12 PM
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it’s either vote alongside people I dislike or risk empowering outright fascists. I wish it weren’t this way, but for now, it’s the choice we’re stuck with. In the UK, the people you dislike vote fascist laws, like the Online Safety Act.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 10:50 PM
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It is called: treat them like a fucking human being. Just actually talk to them. If you must, imagine that they are a man and then talk to them the way you would in that scenario. Guarantee this will get you a trip to HR or get report for harassment if she isn't into you. Because the kind of way men would talk to each other, with no deference, no politeness, no filter, is seen as misogyny to women. Just see online videogames in multi: trash-talk all around (yes, even the men get trash talked, ev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 07:07 PM
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If you get married, shouldn’t any assets accrued during the marriage become joint property? Else I really feel like the institution is worthless. This guy didn’t receive any of the accrued assets during marriage, and that’s generally speaking the law. If you don’t want to share accrued assets, don’t get married. The article doesn't mention what assets she accrued during marriage, only that she failed to disclosed her initial assets when they did marry. It's unclear that she should have to share …
/r/MensRights01/08/25 12:41 PM
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Yea, but I'm talking about the pediatrician doing it (or directing so its done) at age 1-2. And then telling a 4 years old to retract it when they bath. This isn't necessary that early, and probably harmful.
/r/MensRights01/08/25 02:33 AM
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This has all been built on the low hanging fruit of fossil fuels. Once these run out, things are gonna get pretty tough, pretty quickly. A world without fossil fuel can sustain around one fifth of the current population. Male labour and ingenuity will be in big demand once more. We'll get automation and fusion plants before fossil fuels run out, though their usefulness will fade out, except in making plastics.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 07:05 PM
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How on earth these people made the jump from that to "but the GOP will be different" is beyond me, but it is a very consistent belief. I don't think they made that jump. They just wanted to signify their disgust. If the only way to show you hate some policies is to keep voting the people who have them in, you're a slave, not a citizen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 04:52 PM
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Any term used to help men would be immediately poisoned as similar to Nazi and Fascism, by feminism. It's not the term itself, the feminist dogma says men are oppressors, so helping them is anathema.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 04:50 PM
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Since it was on non-secure network, it didn't need hacking, just knowing the data was there.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:31 PM
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Phimosis is most often caused by parents or the pediatrician wanting to forcefully retract to 'clean under', under the false premise that not doing so could lead to UTIs, or is unhygienic (when its more or less literally glued, so unhygienic stuff cant even get there). Doing so creates scar tissue where the foreskin was forcefully unstuck from, and since scar tissue doesn't grow, it causes tightness issues later. Basically, ignorance about foreskin causes the first reason to cut it.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:28 PM
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That's not a rebuttal, it's not even answering the question. Nobody cares about what is to blame, they want the problem fixed. Even if its an invisible man named Great Gazoo puppeteering it all, the point is to fix it for the victims.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:22 AM
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They want to close women's prisons, that sounds like an announcement enough.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 01:19 AM
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Can you ignore Biden campaigning against due process on campus in 2020, because "female alleged victims wouldn't do that"? It's like institutionalized women are wonderful, directly to throw men under the bus. Glad it actually was stopped by supreme courts. But before DeVos added the protections, male accused were fucked by the kangaroo courts, from 2011 to 2020. Which was also the work of Biden. The Dear Colleague letter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 03:34 PM
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I think they mostly believe the propaganda of a millenia-long patriarchy treating women like property beating women without anyone caring etc as fact, and want to get the virtue points for being first in line to do something about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 01:32 PM
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while “Men’s rights” tries to silence a conversation about gender power and accountability. Both feel like equality, but they’re reactions to someone else finally asking to breathe. Men's rights tries to make a gender conversation actually about equality and not just 1 gender. Also avoids unfalsifiable boogieman theories.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 02:35 AM
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Hey guys its ez, just be millionaire...
/r/MensRights29/07/25 01:38 AM
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Even in fiction, you got a guy working as a secret agent, the most he can tell you is exactly this. He can't tell you what file he's working on, what country its about, who's involved. That's all top secret. But "you're not being honest in our marriage, we must always tell each other all secrets" still comes up. And there's the guy working in police in LA, sometimes getting close calls and having thugs shoot at him every week. She knew that meeting him, but still reproaches his 'dangerous lifest…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 01:36 AM
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women weren’t even allowed to work Fake news. Women were always allowed to work. They had to pass laws to prevent women working in mines (which was killing men by the hundreds) for safety reasons. The Triangle Shirt factory was also a disaster in a textile factory (99% women, since textile existed as an industry) and made the news because its women who died in the fire. Men dying in a fire is Tuesday. Women its a disaster. There was never a way a woman could suddenly get out of being a man’s pro…
/r/MensRights28/07/25 07:05 PM
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I've never once seen anyone coming out of a gender psychology discussion not looking like an ass. when you pass the door, you got to make a kiss-face to look like one?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 03:39 PM
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"Not my Nigel" is a shorthand description for a common defensive reaction of many women to feminist observations and explanations of widespread sexist activity. Or basically, how feminists can rationalize calling all men monsters, without calling their own choice into question, basically "they picked one of the few good ones".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 03:35 PM
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It's not that long, especially compared to stuff eli_ashe writes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 07:19 PM
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He's not trying to monetize it, so who cares? Even if he was, trying to please everyone makes slop decided by committee, rather than artistic vision of one person. Skull & Bones more or less sunk because it had no captain at the helm, and it was a 'game made by committee'. Tried to please everyone, pleased no one. The director kept being replaced and was inexperienced, and it was an 'ordered' game, rather than the vision of a director who then wanted the means to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 07:16 PM
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I would bet money they have some sort of financial goal in mind. Sure, change the culture by making all creatives in the entire industry, and the HR, and the admins, as DEI hires or DEI-hiring so that all produced content is of a certain cultural nature (basically make it so they're the only market in town), to then tell the audience what they're gonna like, as decided by a few people and a ton of bots on twitter. The endgame is that you don't need to cater to the audience, you decide what they …
/r/MensRights27/07/25 06:15 PM
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I also think having the entire thing written by ai is going to put a lot of people off, although I do appreciate the transparency. Because it steals the job of someone he wouldn't have had the $ to pay anyways?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/25 05:26 PM
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So the genders shifted into efficiency and men worked and women were householders. That was only true for middle and wealthy classes. And previous to this, only the rich. Only for a tiny sliver of time, in 1st world countries only, were women afforded the ability to just stay home, on a middle class household wage. Meaning, even if you only consider the 1st world, most women worked. Most were working class, and even middle class women worked prior to marriage. And they could after it, if they de…
/r/MensRights27/07/25 12:12 AM
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You can perceive the concept as too vague, but most women notice how our society is made by men and for men. Men get less away with crime, are punished more, nobody asks "what made them do it" or about their mental health at the time of the crime, or if they had a bad childhood. The worst is presumed of them whenever they're with a child, regardless of behavior or intent, and the same is completely ignored of women, giving a pass to actual abuse, by profiling only on sex. A world made 'for men' …
/r/MensRights26/07/25 03:47 PM
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by mass media wanting this outcome, not by fans turning on them
/r/MensRights25/07/25 11:45 PM
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Apparently the pressure comes from within the industry as much as from fans. More the industry, because no domain's fans are more than 10% feminist (as opposed to egalitarian) or woke. But they can be your boss, agent or disc contractant.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 11:40 PM
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It's more that boys learn from a young age it only attracts negative attention. In the animal world, babies likely learn that 'calling on mommy' stops giving positive signals after a while, and stop. If it kept working, they would continue. Domestic cats know exactly how to manipulate their humans, and humans generally oblige them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 04:08 PM
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Isn't the equivalent the friend zone, where you do the emotional labor of a boyfriend, without being intimate in any way, and without having her do emotional labor for you, either? In this dynamic, a woman keeps men who probably hope to get close to her, sexually or romantically (or both), to get favors and validations, and back up plans. A man having people around him that way, is a 10, or a rockstar. The reverse in India is called rape. You have a no-strings-attached sex with an Indian woman, …
/r/MensRights24/07/25 05:37 PM
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Its rarely covered under public insurance plans anywhere, nowadays. Including in the US. I guess unless you force to retract the foreskin, causing phimosis (because its fused before puberty, and forcefully retracting causes scarring which doesn't grow), and they complain about that and have the doctor say the solution is circumcision. That's extra steps to make it insurable.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 05:16 PM
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and again, men wouldn't report groping, accidental or not, to police They likely wouldn't report full-on push-on-a-wall-and-grab-dick behavior, either. Seeing as they'd be seen as gay and not-a-victim anyways, for doing so. It wouldn't be written down, just a non-report laughed out of the cop station. Even if the full-on push on wall thing happened to be his female boss, and it was on CCTV, and he went to HR, he would likely be the one disciplined or fired for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 03:23 PM
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Soon there will be inquisitors coming to judge you for heresy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 11:25 PM
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2) the result or a biased justice system Tell me its not extremely biased against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 11:21 PM
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Trump is incompetent and an idiot. Evil maybe accidentally. Good also accidentally (like the Title IX due process in his 1st mandate).
/r/MensRights23/07/25 02:19 PM
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Middle or working class didn't have a reputation to ruin. Get real. Only the wealthy cared enough. And had enough to lose.
/r/MensRights22/07/25 07:11 PM
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got lectured about 'sin' on a Sunday (which was probably the only day where we had enough energy to be sinful). It was Saturday before (the sabbath day), not sure why it got moved one day.
/r/MensRights22/07/25 07:10 PM
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men flirting with each other is stigmatized but really its by mostly from other men If women know a man is gay (or even ever had sex with a man, years ago), they just put him in the no-fing-way column for romance, because of homophobia. The intense ones will even do that if he was raped by a man, regardless of circumstances (like war sexual torture).
/r/MensRights22/07/25 07:07 PM
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So team wealthy man actually works against men as a group, and for women as a group? Do men also have a super spy on the other side? Though its not clear how much better it was for Biden to be one-sidedly pro woman, vs being an actual egalitarian, he probably made it worse over all, even for women. But the grifters get more funding. So a net positive for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 07:05 PM
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If they're as much on 'team man' as Biden, I'd prefer if they worked for the other team.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 05:23 PM
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Yes, Biden, this guy who definitely did a lot for men. Like propose VAWA instead of a gender-neutral law. And make a kangaroo court system on universities that targets men. He even campaigned in 2020 on reversing the protection for due process that Trump did, probably the only good thing Trump did in his first mandate. Fortunately, the reversing didn't pass court muster, but that's not for lack of trying. He has a penis, he's supposed to be on the good side, the equality guys. And he's making it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 03:55 PM
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Watch Idiocracy. Not just the good moral wealthy people who have kids. This isn't a Just World.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 11:27 PM
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No matter how much effort we put in.. the boulder will simply roll back down the hill and we get no where.. Worse, they'll say you made it heavier.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 04:53 PM
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They call it benevolent sexism. And an example is the justice system ignoring (mostly for SA or DV, or anything with children where they're not caught redhanded on camera, or disfigured a child) or taking white gloves with female perps, wanting to close women's prisons, not giving custodial sentences, being more likely to give better plea deals, and being immune to death sentences in countries that still have it (like Russia).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 03:35 PM
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That was generally true 200 years ago. All except the diurnal thing being a male thing. AFAIK women arent those mythical beings that live outside time. Right now, men are imposed the roles and for zero recognition, authority or priority in anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 02:47 PM
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It doesn't "think" anything about anything. Most voters either, that doesn't stop voting.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 12:05 AM
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DNA can confirm that there was intercourse, but rarely that there was violent or coercive rape. If there is no DNA, there was no rape, or intercourse, however. In the sense of penetration. Even digital penetration would leave traces.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 12:03 AM
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fled the sun and spread rumours to kill it, or came back with draconian censorship demands, until the person who started the sun You put 'sun' instead of 'sub' a lot.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 04:49 PM
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None of those issues apply to transmen and it won't ever apply. No one will look at a 50kg transmen, a person with the physical constitution of a woman, and treat this person as a potential rapist without any proof like it can happen to any of us. There never was a weight or size requirement to being perceived as an oppressor violent rapist. Just "perceived as male". If they can pass that bar, they're going to be presumed as pedos just like any other man.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 03:26 PM
1

Pediatrician tried to forcefully retract and told parents to do so, they cause phimosis in their own son. Then they sell you the cure, circumcision.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 04:41 AM
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nope, it was naturally occuring phimosis In places that practice circumcision, they often recommend retracting as a newborn to 'clean under', not knowing this isn't necessary. Causing the issue in the first place. Sometimes its the pediatrician doing it on the kid themselves. It happened to me and I'm in Canada.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 04:33 AM
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A medical procedure meant to curb masturbation. And when it reached critical mass of people, it being done was post-hoc justified by hygiene or STIs or infections. Reaching for flimsy justifications.
/r/MensRights18/07/25 04:19 AM
2

Charisma counts for a lot, even if you can't see it on a tinder profile.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 05:04 PM
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They want to reform gaming culture for the "modern audience", away from the 'icky nerd males'. And have sunk entire companies trying. Ubislop is so dead now, and it didn't even do a Concord or a Dragon Age Veilguard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 04:14 PM
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I feel lucky to have a healthy sentimental life despite the autism. Really. And I owe it partly to fictional role models I had, who taught me stuff about morals and "what it means to be a man". To healthy male protagonists in fiction. It's been years and years I didn't see any, and I really searched. The Accountant (and its sequel) has Ben Affleck has a bad-ass Asperger syndrome guy (though as a kid he looked like low end autism), who is both a math genius, and a Jason Bourne in close combat. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 04:11 PM
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BUT if you are not able to maintain nuclear power plants there will be a meltdown Post-Chernobyl, nuclear power plants have a failsafe where they shut down in absence of interaction, rather than overheat to explosion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 03:36 PM
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Another thing that can be said of this call to blame the patriarchy is that it is entirely irrelevant to any discussion of men’s issues. Patriarchy does not exist in any meaningful way in the west. Even when it did, we're talking 1900. Women still had big lobby power. They made Temperance a strong movement decades before they could vote. Doesn't sound like a slave class. Especially when you consider the reaction to Temperance vs the Union movements. One led to Prohibition being adopted, Unions l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/25 05:45 PM
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It's an extreme minority that wants to design characters to play at all. Probably not even players, since those games sometimes flop. And an extreme minority of activists (and not representative of LGBT people) that wants to remove labels man and woman in favor of A and B.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 06:56 PM
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Nobody cares about my mental health, but now I got to fix the Blue-Ray and cable terminals of everyone in my family, privilege! /s
/r/MensRights14/07/25 01:31 PM
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In past men were the one doing jobs because they were more physically stronger and more efficient to get the work done. Women have always worked. On farms, making potteries, making food, having inns and such other businesses. Maybe it wasnt always the same jobs as men, but its not like they all stayed home. A woman that stayed home was wealthy.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 03:37 PM
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Or they could have the kids be protected by checking everyone, not just the men. Letting the women free to do crimes because "women wouldn't do that" stereotypes, is doing no one justice. If you have a bank and know people are likely to try and get away with money, but decide only Jewish people are untrustworthy, so you rather ban Jews than check everyone at the exit, you just shouted "come steal for us, we have zero security, just don't be a Jew!" Similarly, you just installed a bright neon sig…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 04:09 PM
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So while men are statistically more likely to offend than women What we know is that they're more likely to be caught when male. Since they prefer profiling by sex than keeping an eye for actual sexual predators, they're giving a green-light to female ones. Bob is watched like an hawk whenever he's with a toddler, but Susan is not. If Susan was a predator, she'd almost have to tell you for you to find out.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 04:06 PM
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For not having the competence, for not having the experience, for being too not-a-people-person in a public role, but not 'I dont like your dangly bits', unless the job requires it, like porn or a titty restaurant
/r/MensRights03/07/25 09:41 PM
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I’d be cautious about a man working in childcare simply because such work does attract predators, for obvious reasons. You should be cautious about anyone.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 02:14 PM
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"most child predators and people with paraphilias involving are predominantly male" And shrinks also think women cannot have paraphilias except masochism, and not at the clinical level either. So they can only ever diagnose men with sexual pathologies.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 02:13 PM
4

more than discrimination in the hopes it fixes the issue, and then forget the issue and hope no troll forgot to have a penis
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/25 03:38 PM
6

because we all know women and girls are unable to do any bullying or any kind of crime
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/25 01:35 PM
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What is your solution to this problem? Throw trolls out. Not a demographics pre-emptively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/25 01:34 PM
2

Women are subservient That's not a character trait, that's a public profile. Women tend to be in the back, either with no after thought, or manipulating people in the front. Doing direct leading is not impossible for women, but indirect leading has plausible deniability. Women campaigned for temperance long before most women had the vote. If they be subservient, they'd not even have the idea to organize, no power to influence, and nobody would have cared.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 02:31 AM
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And then for women, you could say that general misogyny and lack of consideration for the capacities of women mean that people had "low expectations" on women and are basically treating them like children. Saving the aristocrats and the royalty is not considering them weaker or like children, why would it be so for women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 10:26 PM
3

Research shows that (in the past 150ish years) men have had an advantage when it came to surving disaster Men who were crews on boats (which was a big % of the men on the boat), obviously were trained in case of something unforeseen, compared to passengers. So basically, the crew was less taken aback and unprepared compared to paying passengers, who might not even know how to swim in a pool. The Titanic had 908 crew members, which were likely 80-90% male. If they would have had enough boats for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/25 05:52 PM
11

Misogynist men also think women should love their attention.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 09:16 PM
11

Hence toxic women don't really have the motive or ability to easily harass men in public which makes this way less common. You don't have to be physically attracted to harass someone. You can do it because you're a bully, because you can, to savour your power over them, or just to see their reaction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/25 08:21 PM
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Its mentioned. How serious they are taken as a threat when in presence of women. How competent they are presumed to be probably depends on the type of job. Maybe mechanic, IT or management. But probably not anything public-facing (any kind of clerk, receptionist, store person, cashier, teller or waiting staff) or about anything that could be taken as feminine. Police probably depends on the level of crime and how much that tier of violence is needed by police to counter criminals. The Rookie TV …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 05:15 PM
21

I don't think there was anything ostensibly wrong with the article The part where it takes patriarchy as proven fact, or that 'men rule the world'. The stupid "women's jobs becomes less well paid because its women doing it'. And not because its how the government (of any country) decided to pay public sector jobs. Or the insinuation that women teaching is a new development (1960s), and not something women have done for over 200 years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 05:09 PM
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Notice how it’s mostly trans woman, and not trans man. Tends to be roughly the same amount, but trans women have more attention for being judged as 'more dangerous' by society. Like in bathrooms. Out of misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 01:34 PM
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Yea, men (from the 99% male crew) survive more because the crew is trained, ready and knows how to swim. Not because they sacrifice women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 01:31 PM
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Same goes for abortions, where is the ethical complaints about it? Oh no, murder is fine because it "protects" women. Or safe haven. Women would kill their newborns if they didn't have this option, so let's give them license to abandon babies unilaterally and owe nothing to society, while going after men who abandon theirs often without even being informed she was pregnant until it was already born and 2 years old+. IMO you should go one way, not both. Either anyone can abandon their newborns wi…
/r/MensRights18/06/25 03:12 PM
2

Yea, just look at Grumpy Cop in The Rookie, he's an effortless athlete tier hunk who's only hint of incompetence is having baggage from his past, and how he handles that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 03:09 AM
1

Fry is his last name btw. His name is Philip. Leela is an interesting conundrum. It likely was her last name, until it was retconned as her first name when they introduced her parents.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 03:02 AM
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However, if the child is born, it needs to be taken care of. That's expensive. If the state were to pay half the costs of upbringing for every child one parent didn't want to pay for, it'd have to cut a lot of spending elsewhere, so it chases the other parent for the money instead. I truly don't understand how this is controversial or a double standard of any kind. A child needs to eat, a child needs a place to sleep, a child needs clothes to wear. It's not free. If you took part in making that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 02:56 AM
2

The patriarchy isn’t some powerful force that keeps women and minorities down, that has been ultimately replaced by oligarchy The oligarchy existed and was dominant, since money existed. It's not some new development.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 03:13 PM
3

What do you think fueled Gamergate and the incel nonsense? What you heard gamergate is, and what gamergate actually was, are 2 different things. It was a WTF response to game journals calling 'gamers are dead' and 'gamers don't have to be your audience' (all on the same day, tell me they didn't consult each other like a cartel - this is when Adam Baldwin called it gamergate), as well as giving game reviews and ratings based on insignificant stuff from a gaming pov, like how ideologically aligned…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 02:11 PM
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A woman give a baby for safe haven or adoption, no hard feelings, no bill to pay for the child. A man wants to get out of a child he did not agree to conceive? He had to be abstinent, and being a victim of rape or of sperm theft is not a concern of the court. Because there is a bill to be paid, and a man who can pay it. Note that in both cases, a breathing living child exists. It's not abortion vs deadbeat. Both resulted in a live child existing, one is forcefully paid by a man, and the other is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 09:40 PM
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Yeah, I don't think only women can do this. Men can decide not to have children - vasectomy, contraception, plain ol' don't have sex that can result in a pregnancy. Though, I imagine this point is more trying to get at that women (in most civilised places) can choose to terminate a pregnancy. Which is a weird thing to call a privilege, as men, on average, can't be pregnant, so why would there be this huge need for them to be able to terminate a pregnancy? Hell, the men that can be pregnant have …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 02:22 PM
1

Generalizations of women, however benign, I can imagine getting the user banned on feminist subs. Generalizations of men getting them banned? Not sure why they'd be, but not for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/25 07:42 PM
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It's infantilising the woman involved in every respect. It's still claiming women do not make reasoned and rational decisions - and that their word cannot be truthful. Deifying not infantilizing, and wrong, not truthful. The woman is made into a deity who can do no wrong. Whatever they do, is the 'will of gods'. It's not right or wrong, it is. That's the logic.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 06:21 AM
4

However identifying as "anti-feminist" is common among misogynists like Andrew Tate. Breathing is common amongst Nazis too. Should we stop breathing to not be associated?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 03:32 PM
5

convictions
/r/MensRights07/06/25 01:23 PM
1

and in Quebec its also not a motive to do the longer name change process, that you're married to someone
/r/MensRights26/05/25 03:40 PM
1

You randomly capitalize words and not others, like it won the Bingo of 'capitalization' in this sentence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 02:06 PM
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and this is not me negating that mental disorders exist, far from it, but if we arent going to tell women to stop being "hysterical" about their issues and just sending them to the doctors and instead help them and see how their problems are systemic and not personal, then I don't know why we cant do the same for men and boys. Even in the time period women were supposedly judged as hysterical for perfectly normal behavior, came the temperance movement, which sprouted prohibition in both US and C…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 01:30 AM
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As a trans woman, the medical industry never forced me to undergo medical procedures to be accepted as a woman. In fact, they hindered me from getting hormone replacement therapy. If I want to change my legal sex, I have to get surgery. Changing legal name was relatively painless though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/25 02:16 PM
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Indian, Chinese, Japanese and Jewish-origin families are discriminated in US universities because their cultures tend to promote education at the highest level as important. And they have reverse quotas, limiting them. This is what you need (a culture encouraging education itself) to have more people there. Not quotas. every single white boy had the same thing to say as you do now, together with "it's humiliating for THEM" or whatever. Has nothing to do with humiliation felt by the person. Like …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/25 12:59 AM
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The upper class is mostly heterosexual and not especially abstinent. So they marry and have children. Spouses which are most likely female, children having 50% coin toss chances either way. Those spouses and children get to live the rich life, they don't live in the cabin at the end of the lawn. Meaning roughly 50% of the upperclass is female.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/25 03:17 PM
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Quotas are always a bad idea. They further promote the idea that you couldn't be there on merits, even if you actually are there on merits.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/25 03:14 PM
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The woman gets dressed up in something sexualized with the most impractical possible shoes so that she can hardly walk, and basically relies on the man financially and physically. This is aristocracy-privilege. You can also see impractical hairdos and having incredibly long nails as practices aristocrats did to prove they did not have to toil like the plebians. Not handicaps imposed on them by some boogieman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/25 03:06 PM
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essentially handing control over to a self-interested managerial class. That's why The Culture did it right. They handed control over to a non-self-interested sentient AI. And it's so powerful that trying to make a coup d'etat against it is laughable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/25 04:51 PM
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I don’t see very many men wanting to grow up to be stay at home dads. Does it mean that men are incapable of seeking equal responsibility and accountability as women? No. If there was demand for it, you can be sure it would be more popular. As it stands, lots of would-be-SAHD drop the idea in front of a dearth of demand for it. Herbivore men would probably jump on being SAHD for career women, if there were career women looking for such men, in Japan. But its salaryman-or-bust, some rather pick b…
/r/MensRights14/05/25 07:28 PM
1

Well, like everywhere else, men are presumed to be deliberate, responsible for what they do, even accidental touching. Their mens rea isn't 'did he?', its 'how did he?'. Him being at fault is not only assumed, its the default. Men might give other men more slack for touching from men that they could think was accidental (putting themselves in their place). And will likely never think a woman touching them is malicious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 07:38 PM
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I think it would be pretty easy to tell the difference between bodies being pressed against each other and a hand groping. If you move at all in trying to exit, you're bound to touch some people in places you couldn't even foresee you would touch. It's also bound to be perceived as deliberate and sexual, if a man does it (there would be hundreds of excuses in the reverse scenario, that everyone would also accept - nobody would assume malice unless the woman bragged about it like a troll, and I c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 07:34 PM
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its also a bad marry culture, if you're not a salaryman or a business owner, your chances of marrying as a man are about zero Want to be a stay-at-home husband for a career woman? Not gonna happen. That career woman would overlook you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 07:30 PM
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when men take advantage of everyone being crammed together or maybe some interpret being crammed as groping, ie malice where there isn't any or 'breathing while male' Groping might still happen, but its not this huge phenomena that needs women-only cars to curb. Makes as much sense to me as anti-mugging cars where bad people can't bring knives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 03:39 PM
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Sorry men, you can’t get a pass on this one. Then have at it with their corpses, men are not their ancestors. Women today are as much responsible for what people did 5000 years ago than men. Not at all.
/r/MensRights06/05/25 03:21 PM
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The very opening paragraph brings to mind that old feminist line - “to those with privilege, equality feels like oppression”. They stole it from men before, though. Much like rape culture.
/r/MensRights06/05/25 01:45 PM
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and even if they were right, your female ancestors having it worse than your male ancestors is not like you personally did (have it better or worse), so there is no reparations to be had
/r/MensRights06/05/25 12:28 AM
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You mentioned you don't like the sins of a few being cast on the many, but for my experience it's similar. There are always a few vocal minority that are going to hate to hate. We are coming into their space, and it's on us to gain their trust through action. Original sins can never be repented from though, that's the entire point from the POV of the tyrants imposing it. You're forever saying sorry, and its never enough. You did nothing wrong, but someone superficially looking like you did, 100 …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/25 08:42 PM
3

Yes, its in there
/r/MensRights05/05/25 08:31 PM
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The other man, Angelo, died of self-inflicted wounds that night.
/r/MensRights05/05/25 07:37 PM
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not in Quebec yet, we have common-law marriage, but not spousal maintenance from it
/r/MensRights05/05/25 07:30 PM
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Honestly I do believe that this problem can be solved with just a little reflection They'd need to change the gospel from "men are trained to be evil by patriarchy inevitably every day" into something much much more neutral, that doesn't cast men as the villain and masculinity as a control tool (as in used to control women).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 07:30 PM
2

Women can work - great Women could work and did work for most of history. Only the wealthy were able to afford a single wage. It wasn't forced, much like inheriting from your rich dad isn't something forced. You can refuse if the tight expectations that might go with it aren't to your liking. Refusing didn't mean being homeless and starving, it meant doing a working class-tier job, like everyone else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 02:22 PM
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Basically the most likely reason they find fewer female sexual predators with pre-vocal children is likely that they look for them less. A man is with children, they'll have 3 witnesses or a security camera. A woman is with children? Nothing to worry, women wouldn't do that. Yet it might be that woman who does it, they'll never know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 06:10 AM
2

Yet to me that ignores the great difference between male and female friendships. Men are competitive in nature; some here think that should change but I have come to the view that is just how men work. Men have what I call situational friendships, friendships based on shared interests, activities and work. They don't seek emotional intimacy from other men. It's possibly true that men don't seek emotional intimacy from other men. But competitiveness is not something unique to men. Intra-sex compe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 05:07 AM
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They weren't allowed to work or vote until like 60 years ago Funny, cause most women have worked since 'work', the concept, existed. There was a small reprieve in the 1880-1940 period where women could stay home if middle-class and choosing to do so. It never was imposed. The rich (higher income than middle class there) could always do this too, and some became doctors, nothing stopped them except peer pressure (other rich women often didn't do that, cause their family had no expectations behind…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/25 06:06 PM
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this is internalized misandry. What you feel is not something unique. It is a feeling a lot of people share, and this type of internalized discrimination is not something limited to men. It'd be internalized if he imposed it on himself based on culture, this is external misandry however. Clearly prejudice of others. If he self-hated sure, but it seems he gets actually questioned by others, suspected by others.
/r/MensRights03/05/25 05:53 PM
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I think we can all agree, on this forum at least, that women at one point were slaves and now they're not. In the Middle-East, this could be argued. Everywhere else, no. There is no place where slavery is legal where you got to treat slaves better than yourself, where there is taboo about hurting them more than your peers who aren't slaves, and where you're encouraged and often mandated by law to provide more than the strict minimum to stay alive. No place where there are tons of laws against mi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 05:44 AM
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nonetheless men are deeply targeted due to the false narratives surrounding the fascists regarding gender and sexuality. It seems there are remarkably few people or institutions who don't do this. Men are presumed to be sexually dangerous by the left and the right just about equally. Women are presumed to be sexually harmless by the left and the right just about equally, and for similar reasons too - angelism. Whether it's the conservative "women are too good/pure" or "women have not been social…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 03:22 AM
1

Conservatives believe that men aren’t supposed to be weak, cause male bodies are built for physical activity/combat, while women’s bodies are built less for that sort of stuff Maybe they believe in roles, but they would also sacrifice their lives more for women, and would probably adopt policies and laws to make the life of women easier, to find them guilty of crimes less etc. This isn't how you treat children. You restrict children for their own good, and eventually go to give them more respons…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 12:25 AM
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But I feel like a lot of misogyny is rooted in seeing women as delicate, maybe even like children, and babying them too hard to the point it causes problems for the woman. Like aristocrats who have a chauffeur, a cook, a private tutor and all kinds of staff to do the physical labor for them? In Mary Poppins, the man was working probably some finance job, his wife was doing nothing that we know of, yet they hired Ms Poppins, and they already had a chauffeur, a cook and a nanny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/25 12:18 AM
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That's revisionism though. There never was a male-organized power seeking to keep women down. Because simply, men never organized together en masse as a gender (they did as workers, in unions, but not as just 'men'), let alone to oppress women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 09:44 PM
2

Women are very physically weak compared to men When conservatives see a weak man, they don't become protective, they tell him to get gud. So its preciousness, not weakness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 07:26 PM
2

For example woman who see men being traditionally feminine can have quite an issue with that; does that mean these woman are misogynistic ? Do these woman hate themselves ? Some probably can't stand competition, and its worse if they're being outdone. It's like cooking better than a woman in Japan, and its not your job, she'll be ashamed cause its her role and she's not beating you, who does it as a hobby. Similar stuff can happen for nice long hair or generally non-rugged beauty, a sort of jeal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 07:02 PM
12

I thought “don’t take candy from strange men in vans” was something most kids learned Because a woman in a van is totally safe, right?
/r/MensRights01/05/25 03:14 PM
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The ideology doesn’t imply that all woman are good people, why would anyone assume that? Duluth model, DV and rape campaigns that imply the danger is always only men, that men are never in any danger from women. That men need to learn ask for consent, and never learn that you can also refuse to give it.
/r/MensRights01/05/25 05:15 AM
6

If it really was just misogyny, then feminine straight women would be hated just as much as effeminate gay men Ironically, they probably think this is the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/25 03:10 AM
6

While DEI is not traditional, "protecting women" definitely is. To the point of not providing the same services for men, probably to save money. And because both the left and the right think women are more precious than men.
/r/MensRights30/04/25 07:11 PM
1

Basically you can't advocate for mens issue the same way you can for womens issues in the current climate as a politician its suicide. and now, not doing so is also suicide, pick your suicide
/r/MensRights30/04/25 04:07 PM
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He was misanthropic, but I guess its not fashionable to say you hate humanity. Meteor falls, women most affected. Men died from the meteor too, but meh, not newsworthy.
/r/MensRights30/04/25 05:52 AM
1

Shelters for men victims of DV, so they have outs from violence. Also them getting half custody unless proven bad parents. A way to save children from abusive mothers, also. Not it being dismissed as a "mothers wouldn't do this".
/r/MensRights30/04/25 12:56 AM
3

I'd pay them no mind. Much like I don't tip toe around sports fans cause they might not approve of my choice of sports, or my team of choice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 07:40 PM
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It works if they recognize the implicit "you didn't earn social proof of other women", as the blog post says, and then make a moral argument that this is a moral failing on his part (the blog post is clear that social proof has nothing to do with the morality or worth of any individual, only his female-demand, as seen by other female peers).
/r/MensRights29/04/25 04:35 AM
6

Remorse towards going for Trump, but not remorse from going away from Dems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/25 06:27 PM
5

They never seriously ask the obvious question: why are so many women attracted to such men in the first place? To not have to approach. The most aggressively approaching will be those. They won't be discouraged by being called creeps and typically have enough confidence to not have any anxiety about approaching. If you're taught that you "shouldn't lower yourself to approach", that its '"beneath you", and that it also gives you more perceived value to act this way, and then, that its easier and …
/r/MensRights28/04/25 04:11 PM
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Women have more suicide attempts than men but men use guns that are more fatal which lead to more suicide deaths. Check every other country, where most people can't have guns. Suicide ratio is sensibly the same. And women don't have more attempts than men, they have more self-harm behavior that doesn't reach attempt-tier (like cutting without intent of dying), but is still counted as attempt if found by emergency people. Men who get drunk and run at 100 mph are not counted as attempts (not unles…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/25 05:20 PM
4

The premise was always that women are precious, however. Saying they're weak, you're strong, you should do more, is manipulation, ego flattery.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 09:36 PM
3

Shit on yes, but kicked out of female category and treated like a pariah?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 06:44 AM
0

"Hormone therapy decreases strength, LBM and muscle area, yet values remain above that observed in cisgender women, even after 36 months. These findings suggest that strength may be well preserved in transwomen during the first 3 years of hormone therapy." They'd need to compare trans women athletes to cis women athletes. Comparing avg (without specifying athlete) of either is not gonna work. Most cis women have a cultural aversion to gaining muscle mass, not an inability to do so. They'd also n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 06:18 AM
1

We have clear indications, from a plethora of different studies, that transwomen (that have gone through puberty) as a group are stronger than ciswomen, that they retain this strength You gain muscle from training, not from sitting idle. And muscles being energy-inefficient are the first to be lost. So trans women who want to retain muscle mass will need to train without testosterone helping them amass or retain it better - ie in the same conditions as cis women. There is no higher muscle mass c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 04:47 PM
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You can support women's rights without being a feminist. You can be a good moral person without being Christian. You can support helping the poor without being socialist.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 04:06 PM
1

Trans women receiving androgen-suppression therapy for 12 months showed significant reductions in strength, lean body mass, and muscle surface area, but even after 36 months, the measurements of these three indices remained above those for cisgender females. You're aware that testosterone helps to GAIN and RETAIN muscle, it doesn't create it out of thin air? If you don't train, its gone. Testosterone helps the training be more efficient. Once testosterone is gone, training is just as inefficient…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 01:06 AM
1

Rich people also have advantages in sports. They're not disqualified for having better training, more competent coaches or better food.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 01:03 AM
6

The fact is, we don't KNOW how common false accusations are.. because many of them may not reach court but could still cause damage especially if the man is arrested and charged by the police.. Even when they do reach court, there is a lack of will to prosecute them (because of the "real victims" as men obviously don't count), so its rarely seen as perjury or false accusation, just a dropped charge. The only known false accusations are those with impossible and proveably false story (ie the guy …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 06:24 PM
13

And men are dangerous. Everyone is dangerous. Those who think you should only be wary of men are part of the problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 02:46 AM
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or she's seen as usurping a better tier of privileges-for-existing This makes sense without convolution about people giving a fuck about your personal life and stability. Most strangers won't care if you deprave yourself, do drugs 24/7 or waste all your money on Mc Donalds. They'll care if they think you're a man and you're in the woman's bathroom though. Or that you win a woman's chess championship, or get in a DV shelter period.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 02:42 AM
3

Just as many trans men as trans women. And nobody cares if someone perceived to be a woman is weak. They don't get 'bonus badass points', but most women don't, either. I agree that trans women are seen as deserting, though its kinda weird in a society so focused on motherhood, that people going away from motherhood are not seen as deserting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 01:41 AM
5

So men have said they fear being seen as gay for dating black or hispanic women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 01:31 AM
5

Assuming that female role without even the possibility of pregnancy, I think strikes many people as male perfidy, an unfair and sneaky way to gain the benefits without assuming the burdens. Though they'll give the benefits to childless (even intentionally so) and unfertile women, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 01:23 AM
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Transphobes see trans women as women and vice versa. If they did, they wouldn't go on about how trans women are going to rape in the bathroom, in DV shelters, or in prison. Transphobes, like most people (though, wrongly), see rape as a uniquely male-initiated crime.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 01:06 AM
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The Title of this thread is Why are Trans Women ( People that are often born male) more targeted then Trans Men (People that are often born female). you then say " ... its the opposite." Suggesting its not misogyny or the patriarchy. But misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 06:26 PM
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This not only denies their rights to go to toilets but also medical access since they cannot be put in any hospital wards. Why are hospital wards sex-segregated? I can see a maternity ward, but besides that...no reason at all. It's a room. And you're in no health to be doing much, assaulting your neighbor is gonna be caught on camera or by witnesses, so I doubt most would do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 05:45 PM
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Feminists would be upset for sure, women at all, not sure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 04:24 PM
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Why? Because certain manosphere figures — often loud, bitter, or inflammatory — hijack the label and misrepresent what actual MRAs stand for. And that’s part of the problem. I don't think most even intentionally hijack the label. Opponents to men present those as representative, because that's an easier strawman to attack.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 01:05 AM
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“Women were never oppressed” is an absolutely WILD take. Everyone was oppressed, women not more than men. <- this is what they meant, and I agree
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 10:33 PM
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Being pro-man itself will be seen as not being leftist and thus not published by most leftist publications.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 03:59 PM
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"With us or against us" is famously what Bush Jr said. And he wasn't Marxist. Also tell me where Marx wanted people to call those people who focus on class as traitors and 'class reductionists' and to promote ID pol instead of fixing class differences or helping the poor?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 03:57 PM
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I'm guessing in 2000 BC, most people who didn't need to pass property legally in some way, did not marry. So the vast majority. Most people didn't own property, and that was even more true way way back when. They didn't own the land they were on, and the cabin/shack they used was probably there for the lord's worker, not them specifically. "Everybody marries" seems to be a recent phenomenon, around 1700-1800s. Or whenever the Church started asking it as proof of fealty to religion, to even the p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 05:19 AM
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I don't think dividing into ingroup and outgroup is marxist in any way. Tons of groups and ideologies have done the same before, and after. And feminism seems to intentionally avoid class, making them more anti-communist than pro-communist, or at least a distraction from it, so people don't unite under the banner of class in any way whatsoever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/25 09:45 PM
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(e.g., rules that prevent women from getting a divorce unilaterally). If they did, they'd have given men that power to divorce unilaterally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/25 05:13 PM
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Nice/guy/girl Someone who appears to masquerade as nice but it's only being polite once they've unraveled to show their core values as cruel and narcissistic. Best example: gets completely politely rejected by their tinder date and then attacks them with hate speech some of them are literally monsters, your logic flops when you try to excuse this. That's a strawperson though. Maybe one person in the universe is like this, but its not a stereotype, nor an archetype. People might try to appear nic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/25 02:50 AM
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Not considered so by other feminists, for not following the dogma.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 10:27 PM
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and yet paternity testing is illegal in some places, and hard as heck to obtain in others (and certainly not routine at birth, despite them taking blood to do other tests), and if you 'acted as father', you're stuck paying (because the state doesn't want to, and the woman can ask it) til the majority of the kid anyways, regardless if you did under false information or lie Such a patriarchy! Control by men of women achieved!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 03:35 PM
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Everyone (not men) created civilization, and it was to be safer from external threats (often other tribes, but also wild animals nearby) and less at the mercy of the environment (ie have aquaducts, sewers, methods to extinguish fires).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 03:32 PM
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As defined as 'not agreeing with feminist dogma'. I'm socialist, but since I disagree with feminism, that makes me far right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 03:30 PM
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None of the authors would be published by leftist publications, because they disagree with the dogma, you mean? Cause that would be true. And not the dogma of being leftists, but of being feminists who unconditionally believe everything (almost, just everything negative about men - they can disagree on trans and sex work, or extremely minor niche stuff no one heard of) feminist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 01:23 PM
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I'd say the same is true for hormones. Give a trans woman estrogen and she'll feel better, give them to cis men or block their T, and he'll fill less at ease if not ill, and will only tolerate it if its part of cancer treatment (androcur for example). Alan Turing famously suicided for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 03:10 AM
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I know the biggest thing about transitioning was hormones, not socially transitioning. That came easy, since I changed nothing at all. The hormones was night and day. Went from poison to well, not poison. And that's huge. When I figured I was trans, I thought something was wrong with the body, not with the socialization or the clothing. Men have shit options in terms of expression, but its never been a reason to medically transition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 03:05 AM
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Should I be obligated to pay for my neighbour's boob job? If they can demonstrate in front of shrinks that its necessary, yes. Most who want breast augmentations will bypass this and just pay. Getting off the counter hormones is harder though, so you can't really bypass it (you need a shrink diagnosis), even if you never get surgery. Furthermore, the whole concept to me validates gender essentialism The notion that female people have estrogen? Or maybe that they have a vagina?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 08:27 PM
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Assigned gender at birth" would make sense, a gender can be "assigned" in the sense that the individual's gender identity is assumed to match their birth sex and assigned to them. A person's sex at birth is a biological reality (with some statistical outliers in intersex individuals) that is observed or recorded, not assigned. But people give you a legal sex, not a legal gender. This is the assignment. They could do this regardless of observable facts. Which happens often in intersex individuals…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 03:23 PM
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In the aftermath of the 2010 earthquake in Haiti, food aid was targeted towards women to ensure vulnerable populations, including children, received supplies. This was due to concerns about men disrupting aid distribution, such as pushing to the front of lines or stealing food. The World Food Program partnered with aid groups to distribute food vouchers almost exclusively to women at designated sites, and men were encouraged to be on hand to help organize and protect the sites. This strategy aim…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 06:26 AM
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Must be some small city. In Montreal, going by 0.2% rate you're looking at 4000 trans people. 2m residents.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 06:13 PM
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The UN, refusing aid to men. Starving them to death, for altruistic reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 01:45 PM
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Spain?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 08:49 PM
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Djinns are like the devil, they try to get you with the details of the wish. So you'd need an army of lawyers to formulate it right and have it with no loophole or possibility of backfiring.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 07:43 PM
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They pull fire alarms on the Warren Farrells, its not like they don't exist and haven't made themselves heard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 07:40 PM
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Yeah are centering your conclusions primarily around online rhetoric & online interactions, which is not reality. Trudeau and Biden are fringe online rhetoric? You know Biden campaigned in 2020 on removing the few campus trial protections for the accused that Trump accidentally added in his own times? Was it just internet rhetoric or actual campaign 'vote for me' issue that Biden did?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 02:16 PM
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But this idea that any minority in a skilled position is a "DEI hire" that Trump and the like are pushing is just flat out bigotry. Having quotas will do that, regardless of merit of candidates. So having quotas is backfiring, they should stop it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 02:33 AM
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DEI initiatives also give opportunities to men- racial minorities, men from smaller towns, LGBTQ+ men, disabled men, non-Christian men, etc. You do that by punishing discrimination, and encouraging fairness. But DEI was outright quotas and instituting systemic discrimination in the opposite direction from before, and mainly to benefit wealthy people who check boxes. And also make wealthy people appear virtuous, despite doing nothing virtuous. In fact, DEI did a lot more against fairness than Jim…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 04:49 AM
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I don't try to live up to any ideal of masculinity. The notion is nonsensical to me. It's like "following fashion" which basically means following vetted-people-as-being-cool and what they do/wear. Or basically, doing what others do, because others do it in big numbers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 04:39 AM
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Well it depends if its the leisure thing the 1950s wanted them to think about, or Elysium where the plebs (and thus the entire human race) all die out while the rich have a luxury resort space station. But I don't think the first choice would result in depopulation or mass celibacy. We'd just change the way we measure status.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 03:50 AM
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I guess feminists aren't leftist then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 02:32 AM
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The ‘newspaper’ that article is from, the Daily Mail, is a far-right shitrag. You think the Guardian would talk about it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 08:34 PM
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He's basically saying its not more masculinity than breathing or the ability to write is masculinity. Being a jerk is human. Being stupid is human. Being excited is human. Being a bully is human. Making mistakes is human.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 12:19 AM
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What happens with automation, when male cheap labor and sacrifice isn't needed?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 10:51 PM
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So first, you can't just omit cancer and HIV to have a statistically better claim. That's just a blatant manipulation of stats. I don't omit them. I'm saying the rate of reduction of cancer and HIV caused by circumcision is less than the rate of complication, lethal or not, caused by circumcision. Ergo, there is less harm in doing nothing at all, even long term. And that's not even mentioning the loss of function and feeling. Perfectly unnecessary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 04:42 PM
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Phimosis is caused by parents trying to clean under the foreskin. Tearing the foreskin from the glans, causing the issue themselves. The foreskin is fused, and is meant to be and stay this way until puberty. There is no need to clean under before it naturally unfuses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 03:39 PM
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Higher than the rate of non-cancer or non-HIV prevented by it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 03:38 PM
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Circumcision, for medical reasons, is still an evolving practice. The major philosophy behind the medical merit of this practice is very similar to vaccines, which is the prevention of disease and medical complications. Like removing fingers to prevent blisters. You'll likely kill more kids in complication than you prevent deadly disease. That's how stupidly low the risk is of 'not doing anything'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 03:17 PM
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This would be similar to arguing for a children's fundamental right to not receive vaccines. No, it would be similar to the fundamental right to not be the victim of foot binding.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 02:13 PM
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Bad choice of words. I concede on being unfaithful to my point in this argument. I do claim that prevention of infection and unhealthy conditions is substantive for medical intervention. Vaccines prevent infections as well. You are reasoning, stupidly I might add, that we should not be able to give children vaccines because they are "healthy" and preventing disease isn't substantial enough for the benefits of vaccines. But in the case of circumcision, its like saying removing breast buds of litt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 02:12 PM
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and phimosis is likely caused by parents being counseled by their pediatrician to move the foreskin of their young child to clean under it, when its not necessary. Basically the tearing causes the phimosis
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 02:10 PM
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And as much I think the left has bastardized it, I think there is a place for intersectionality theory and idpol - just not as much as the dominant leftists spaces claim. Not if it means quotas, preferential hiring or the right to make minority-only coding camps (when there are no other camps, basically diverting the everyone-camp to a minority-camp).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/25 03:43 PM
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Tell me of an environment where men can get away without a tie, despite being public-facing and not casual.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/25 02:24 PM
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If they can go casual with no dress code, sure. If its shirt and tie, no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 07:23 PM
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It doesn't need to be a specific style, nor a specific tone of color, nor have closed shoes or long pants, nor hide all skin, a tie is not mandatory, hair is not mandated to be short, jewelry can be or not be worn, make-up is entirely optional from nothing to "warpaint"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 07:22 PM
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Having tons of rules for clothing, you can decide not to follow them. But having one specific style imposed, with great restrictions on showing skin, toes, the color of it and the length of hair. That doesn't sound better. It sounds like an uniform. Like being a cog, not a person.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 05:31 PM
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So, you can have hair as long as you want, and jewelry (that's not a watch) to express your own style, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 05:25 PM
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Women can get away with anything (not literally true of course but a hell of a lot more than men) because they are seen as weaker and more emotional. They might be seen as weaker and emotional, but this isn't why they can get away with stuff. The scrawny male crybaby could get away with murder then (people might doubt his physical capacity to do actual hurt, but they definitely won't doubt his capacity to be evil). It's preciousness and angelism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 03:24 AM
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wait a minute why do they only care about boys being victims of rape from women when women point out their rape stats🤔🤔 Maybe when they say ONLY women are victims of rape, ONLY men are perpetrators?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 03:55 PM
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It'd be rare to find a woman who says "I want to be a careerist, so I find men attractive who will take care of the kids, manage the household, and have dinner ready for me by the time I get home." Even in Japan, where a careerist is going to want a 70 hours a week schedule, and where its obvious that careerist men without a SAHM would not work out. The careerist women don't seek SAHF.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 01:45 PM
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Society's pursuit of "equality" is not compatible with what men and women appear to want from each other. Women do not want to be with men who earn the same or less as them, and men do not want to be with women who earn more than them. I don't think men are against higher earner women, its just not a bonus in any way whatsoever. And if it makes her higher maintenance or demanding, then its a drawback.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 03:32 PM
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and then there's the fact that it became known they were going for a male Japanese samurai (maybe unknown one, like Naoe), and switched to a black one after George Floyd, thinking they could get positive publicity from that alone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/25 01:34 PM
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Boys can't be exhibitionist because just about the only clothing that checks the box is considered 18+ and leather stuff. Or being nude. So even more restrictive than you say, the option isn't there without being de-gendered by others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/25 08:25 PM
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i.e., clothing and hairstyles for women, which have been historically more controlled in institutions like schools than for men You mean schools where you can't have hair touching the collar when male, control hair for women more?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/25 07:48 PM
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Though a lot of them, like spaghetti straps, are also not allowed of boys. So its prude, not sexist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/25 07:47 PM
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They could have taken care of female DV victims and rape victims, without demonizing men, portraying DV or rape as 'patriarchal violence done by men to put women in their place', or denying male victims or female perpetrators exist. Extremely easily. It wasn't lazyness to go the other way, but hatred.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/25 05:46 PM
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Reckless not-giving-a-fuck is also hatred. After all, this is what bosses did to employees before unions and minimum conditions laws. "They only wanted to maximize profits" is no excuse to "completely ignores the well-being and living conditions of employees"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/25 05:32 PM
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It is very important to understand that this is not necessarily done out of malice. Political movements naturally prioritize the interests of the groups their represent, and they will do it at the expense of others if there aren't any countervailing forces. Feminism has exploited social prejudices against men when it has been convenient or advantageous for the policies they want. The way that they have historically acted in matters of partner abuse and sexual violence, two areas where the prevai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/25 05:02 PM
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If you see one person starving and one person with a safety net, the goal isn't to have 2 people starving.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/25 04:59 AM
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In Quebec province, we have price fixing for milk. This is how the entirely-local milk producers are subsidized. The milk costs 2-3x higher than it would normally do, this enforces a maximum quota of production on the producers (at least to be used as milk, chocolate milk can sometimes be cheaper), and makes it so a bad year won't make them close. Nor is there a race to producing more. Trump said that was a tariff, but no, its the floor price to customers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 09:46 PM
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Wealth also abhors sitting idle unless absolutely necessary. Wealth is invested into businesses that produce goods and services, pay wages, and drive down prices. Wealth now is invested into housing, to raise the price of housing for a better return on investment, and as a side effect, makes housing and rent unaffordable to most.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 09:40 PM
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I've seen more mras call out their radicals than feminists call out theirs And none of MRAs, radical or not, have enough influence or clout, to actually direct policy, let alone have anti-woman policy into law the way Spain had their Violencia the Genero law, full of anti-man bias (doesn't recognize male victims of DV, says its worse when it happens to women, and lots more), signed into law in 2004, and not overturned yet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 07:13 PM
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Many actually progressive feminists turn a blind eye towards men's issues because they see MRA's as people who reject their issues and reject supporting women. No, before MRAs existed, it was already pre-written that men's issues can't be of any importance because men made the system, so it by definition advantages men. So its like straight-rights to the entire ideology. Regardless of who acts how in regards to it, how civil or agreeable they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 06:35 PM
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women have the right to work Women always could work. There was no law against employing women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 06:20 PM
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But those ships had female names...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 05:57 AM
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Let's not pretend, though, that inferiority wasn't a massive part of it for everyone else. Everyone who? Surely not the people living back then. They didn't make their wives and daughters into prisoners with no rights, no ability or no choices. Not any more than their husbands and sons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/25 04:45 PM
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I'm talking about the declaration of sentiments, 1860s or so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/25 04:43 PM
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This is the current status of the poll's votes as of today. The link to the poll didn't work when I first saw it, and it doesn't now. I even opened a new tab, pasted the url, and nothing happened.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/25 12:06 AM
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From a consequentialist point of view, i.e. screw morality we only care about the end result -- it seems that it's best for a society to either enforce gender roles, or to just see women as inferior. The thing is, women being in the home wasn't seeing them as inferior. They had less duty to earn, and more duty to raise, and no less ability to do whatever they might please (start a business, go alone in town etc). The only difference was the level of concern for their well-being, and people speak…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/25 11:27 PM
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They all focus on how they were oppressed. and on how men are the evil oppressors... That wasn't tacked on later, it came right off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/25 10:39 PM
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Chauvinism doesn't imply being oldfashionedly-pro-men, it means being supremacist. excessive or prejudiced support for one's own cause or group So its not 'reverse'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 08:22 PM
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Sounds like asperger to me, very similar to me. It seems aspies have a strong and uncompromising sense of justice. You might feel forced to shut up or do nothing about issue x, but it won't stop you from feeling it sucks, and voicing it when possible. Note that even cats, dogs and the likes have an idea of justice and injustice, mostly if you're giving favoritism and it doesn't feel like its earned. So this is an ingrained very 'I am alive and can think' kind of thing, almost part of the lizard …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 01:06 AM
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I agree except that I think the minimum to have secured housing, food, utilities and all education and healthcare should not be conditional on making yourself useful. This should be the baseline for everyone. Anything else should be a bonus. Bigger house, faster car, faster internet, more recent phone, better accommodations at work. But work or starve is a poor model. Ironically, society inclines to agree with me...for women, but men 'work or bust'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/25 06:57 PM
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Yes, the US parties seem to be voting for what color of clothing they'll wear today for congress, while you still pay your eggs 20$ the dozen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/25 04:50 AM
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Putting women beyond the law is not infantilizing, as much as its making them all aristocracy who is above the law. Infantilizing is removing rights for your own protection, not giving carte blanche to do whatever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/25 05:40 PM
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When I see unqualified people get positions. I assume its nepotism from the owner, incompetence from the boss, or both. But 'their skin is x' is rarely going to be it, unless they're nazi-tier racism, or DEI-tier activists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/25 07:02 AM
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