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let them pay the bill after i walk out from a situation like this. No no no, ffs, not this weak, spiteful shit. You wanna be a real standup ‘alpha’ guy? Confident and decisive? Then why would you sneak out the backdoor? That makes you as bad as the girl. What you should have done, and should do the next time, is address the issue after 10 mins, in a calm, playful and adult way. If she does it again after 15 mins, call her out again, a little more stern, strike 2. If she still doesn’t own up, pol…
/r/seduction14/05/22 10:07 AM
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By asking questions, listen to her answers, ask follow up questions
/r/seduction13/05/22 07:45 AM
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The self esteem is the problem, everything else is a consequence of that. So this I try to scold myself (…). (“You are a failure. All your life you haven’t done much”) is exactly what you should NOT do, because it makes you feel bad about yourself (which you already do), and that does the opposite of motivating you. Every time you ‘fail’, your mind will reinforce the idea that you suck, which will motivate you less and less to do anything, because “you’ll probably fail anyway”. You need to break…
/r/seduction11/12/21 09:36 AM
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If you’re interested, ask them out. Your post implies that you were interested in the girl for quite a while (‘she always knew’), but you didn’t do anything. Actually, you played games: you tried to play it cool, seem not interested, whatever. How are you gonna complain about girls playing games when you are doing the same? if I’m too flirty I’ll make it obvious. Where did you get that it’s bad to be obvious? You have to be obvious, or you might get friendzoned. If there’s one thing I’ve learned…
/r/seduction27/06/21 02:40 PM
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I don’t know why you’re getting the downvotes, it sounds like a legit point
/r/seduction16/06/21 07:00 PM
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A lack of confidence will always cause trouble in the long run, you should really try to fix it if you want a lasting, satisfying relationship. There are no shortcuts for this. Self confidence is the foundation of everything. Take it from a guy who struggled with confidence for years and years
/r/seduction24/04/21 10:41 PM
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Why does it seem like a waste?
/r/seduction21/10/20 08:30 AM
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"vulnerable" And that’s because, if you haven’t tackled the underlying issues, you’re not being “vulnerable”, you’re being “insecure”. You can be vulnerable, and still be confident and decisive. You can CRY and still exude strength and confidence.
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:55 PM
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Adding onto what /u/gorangutan96 said: what helped me a lot was to dig and find out what caused this insecurity, low self esteem? I realized that it manifested itself by me needing affirmation and compliments from others— with a lot of things I did, I was looking around if someone was there to tell me I did well. Where did that come from? Answer: parents, especially my dad, who was pretty much unable to compliment, and always (jokingly) criticized. Combined with him thinking he knew how the worl…
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:16 PM
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Just to point it out, the fact that you can’t believe she is interested in you is your single biggest problem in getting dates. So stop reading about seduction, seduction techniques, how to dress, groom, etc because this is the thing to fix first.
/r/seduction14/06/20 07:40 AM
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What if the imbalanced brain chemicals are a result of the anxiety and stress, and not the other way around? We all know stress, which is often no more than perceived pressure from the outside world (which btw is very real, I’m not debating that), causes hormone upsets, and can cause physical problems like diarrhea, headaches, heartburn and even stomach ulcers. So why wouldn’t it influence brain chemicals?
/r/seduction01/05/20 06:52 AM
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Don’t hold it for 10 seconds without blinking and grinning like the Joker. Hold eye contact a tad bit longer than normal, while smiling. Ok, while I type this, I realize that can be misread as well. Last attempt: occasionally, smile slightly cheekily, like you know a light hearted secret. Be open and friendly, make sure your expression is open and friendly, but choose your moments to (internally) wink at her. Don’t be worried about the result. Enjoy the moment, be interested in her, and be a lit…
/r/seduction26/04/20 07:22 AM
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You don’t need to ‘carry yourself in a more masculine fashion’, that is for sure not your problem. High energy/ extra type of person is FINE. It’s a plus, actually. Combine it with confidence and flirting and you’re all set
/r/seduction24/04/20 10:46 PM
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“Get three coffins ready.”
/r/seduction05/01/20 02:21 PM
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Mostly every advice here is like that: focusing on results, in stead of addressing the source, the cause which will get you these results. Imo, the source is self confidence— or at the very least, not being too insecure. Red pillers talk about keeping frame, which basically means, keep up the act. Why is it an act? Because they need to act confident, because underneath, they are still insecure. The moment you have actual self confidence, there is no frame needed. Because your actions will automa…
/r/seduction26/11/19 09:44 PM
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So why do you need to be at the point of richness before you get girls? You don’t. If you think you do, you’re not really looking. Because there’s many, many guys who are not rich and have girlfriends. Come on, are you seriously not seeing all sorts of guys around you with girlfriends? Because I do. Even when I was broke, when didn’t have my life together, I had some attention from girls (however much oblivious I was). It was very rare, but it was there, in hindsight. And most guys around me had…
/r/seduction23/11/19 12:05 AM
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I think you missed my point— or I wasn’t clear. There’s no purpose of money. As a guy, to put it black and white, you can be a ‘winner’, or you can be a ‘loser’, in the broad sense. If you’re a winner, a logical result is that you have a decent income. Another logical result is that you have a decent romantic interest from girls. That’s not a result of you having money, it’s a result of you being a ‘winner’.
/r/seduction22/11/19 11:58 PM
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Yeah because money isn’t some magic spell, but because being rich is a result of having the personality traits a that lead to succesful careers and a rich social life (and even to good looks, to a certain extent)
/r/seduction22/11/19 05:02 PM
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No I haven’t
/r/seduction11/09/19 08:13 PM
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See, you’re looking at it the wrong way. ‘Being nice’ in this context is usually actually not so nice. ‘Being nice’ vs ‘being an asshole’ actually means ‘being (somewhat) dishonest/ fake’ vs. ‘being (brutally) honest’, at least, I feel that’s what’s at play underneath. ‘Nice guys’ adjust their behaviour, trying to be extra considerate, extra sweet, towards girls they fancy. They act (a little bit) differently towards them then they do towards other people. Why? Because they want those girls to l…
/r/seduction11/09/19 09:10 AM
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Not my experience, and I’m not the 10%
/r/seduction10/07/19 03:53 PM
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Nobody is claiming anything different. But you can still take an opportunity to have when it arises
/r/seduction10/07/19 03:36 PM
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Meh I don’t think so, my gf is I think the best I’m gonna get, I’d be devastated if it would end— but it’s not what guides my actions towards her. I’m also very comfortable with her, nothing wrong with being comfortable. Being comfortable in a relationship and considering her a rare catch are fine. However, being lazy or complacent in a relationship is bad— and I think this is often confused with being comfortable. Because, if you’re a healthy human being, either single or in a relationship, you…
/r/seduction25/06/19 06:11 PM
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You DO seem a little eager to let people know you’ve got it figured out, while looking down somewhat on people who don’t.
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:33 PM
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No, there is no real point to life, except having a good experience and maybe trying to be the best version of you
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:28 PM
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You must have never seen horses mate, because I mare kicks the living shit out of the stallion if she’s not in the mood
/r/seduction04/06/19 03:25 PM
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Well... yeah, survival is pretty much at the core of attraction. Survivor’s bias is basically survival of the fittest, specifically, girls who like guys that survive will survive. If you don't got it, there's nothing wrong with working on yourself till you do. Nobody says it’s wrong, as a matter of fact, that’s pretty much the reason this subreddit exists. Don't shame the people who have to work for it. Again, nobody’s shaming them? Your whole post makes a lot of sense, but I’m confused by it be…
/r/seduction04/06/19 03:24 PM
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If your anxiety is this bad, it's not really useful to approach. You need to address the anxiety first. You should seek professional help-- cognitive therapy can help you overcome the more extreme parts of this anxiety. If you wanna try and self-diagnose: ask yourself WHY you are so anxious about approaching someone? Don't tell this to me, or anyone, just to yourself. Be completely honest (this is very hard) about why you are scared (because that's what anxiety usually is: fear). Fear of what? F…
/r/seduction25/05/19 09:55 PM
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True confidence is not pretending.
/r/seduction25/04/19 04:25 PM
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I’m glad this worked for you, but for most people this won’t help much. You’re focusing on the ‘what’ in stead of the ‘how’ The what usually comes down to variations on ‘adjust your diet’ (your point 1 + 3), ‘exercise more’ (your point 2), ‘focus on you and improve yourself’ (your point 4 supported by point 5). All x step programs or bullit pointed lists come down to this. And every out of shape, lonely, frustrated shut in knows this— especially the ones on reddit, because they’re usually smart …
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:03 AM
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You sound bitter.
/r/seduction20/03/19 08:30 AM
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As long as you’re thinking in terms of ‘suitable mate’ you’ll be alone
/r/seduction02/03/19 12:00 AM
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Yes, if you’re willing to learn.
/r/seduction27/02/19 07:41 AM
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Not OP, but consider this: Say you’re convinced that “I’m ugly, that’s why girls are not interested and people are out to ridicule me”. There are many examples on this sub and others of people who think that way. Mind you, it might actually be true for some individuals, but it doesn’t matter anymore, because you’ve already defeated yourself. If you’re convinced you’re ugly and therefore people treat you badly, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. In any situation where a girl rejects you, howe…
/r/seduction16/02/19 08:00 PM
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I assume he’s “beating around the bush” because he wants to avoid legal trouble in any way.
/r/seduction16/02/19 07:35 PM
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You sound like you resent that it’s like that, and it’s not a good mindset for you to be happy. It’s like saying “I hate that the sky is blue”— you’re allowed to, but it’s not gonna change. It’s way better to just accept this and go with it. (And, to go into it: girls have to put effort in as well, just not the same as guys do)
/r/seduction06/02/19 05:42 PM
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I wrote an equally long post about legit strategies in game and it was ignored. So? One of the basic rules, right? Nobody owes you anything. Now you’ve written a post where all the ‘succesful’ sedditors can circlejerk to, yelling ‘preach!’ and ‘amen!’, making you feel better, while the people who you are trying to reach probably still won’t take your advice. Which is fine. Another basic rule: if you don’t want to put in the work to change, you’re not gonna change. You’re getting frustrated over …
/r/seduction25/01/19 09:50 PM
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your behavior is self consciously deliberate and thus outcome seeking it doesn’t matter how alpha you are You’re not ‘alpha’ if you behave that way. ‘True alpha’ behaviour is confident, decisive and most of all true to yourself. Redpillers and nice guys are two sides of the same coin: fake behaviour to try and get into a girls pants.
/r/seduction22/01/19 07:44 AM
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Her saying sorry was your verbal cue to look into her eyes and say “no it’s fine”. After you didn’t respond to her non verbal cues. And keep in mind, the right way to respond is true to yourself. If you like what she’s doing, either verbally on non verbally let her know. Don’t overthink it, don’t try to assess what she would like or approve of— do what you would like and see what the response is.
/r/seduction17/01/19 07:59 AM
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That doesn’t really contradict anything I’ve said though
/r/seduction10/01/19 05:00 PM
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Well.. I would say Bardems character in that movie is close to being over the top— and I would say he’s not handling the relationship with Penelope Cruz’ character very well. But yes, the blueprint is there. And based on what I’ve seen from Woody Allens life, it makes sense he would write it like that, because I don’t think he particularly ‘gets it’— successful, normal relationships— and Bardem’s character seems like the almost-caricature of a casanova the way a ‘nerd’ would write it.
/r/seduction09/01/19 08:59 PM
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First off, you can’t blame either of them. She just liked him, she can’t help that. You can only blame yourself (don’t do that either though, think of it as a learning experience). Because secondly, and this is very important: you have to let girls know you are interested. Not in a friendly way, but sexually. Even hot guys need to do this every now and then. This is THE main difference in men and women. Men’s first impression is almost always sexual, we don’t need cues to like a girl that way. A…
/r/seduction20/12/18 07:53 AM
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then adds in whatever to make you sound creepy If you then address this and call her out in a decent manner, nobody will really think you are creepy. It will be pretty clear pretty quickly that she’s the creep here
/r/seduction04/12/18 05:30 PM
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Well, why WOULDN’T you have the confidence? I know this sounds a bit lame, but try to actually answer the question: why didn’t you say hi? And why are you bothered by this? 9 times out of 10 it has something to do with fear: fear of rejection, fear of being awkward, fear of looking stupid— and that all boils down to ‘fear of what other people might think of you’. And when you realize that, you might realize that that is a pretty feeble reason to not do things. Because, who cares what other peopl…
/r/seduction04/12/18 06:45 AM
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Giving up after 4 is pretty quick I would say. I think you’re taking it a bit too seriously. never put them on pedestals and I never let myself be too readily available on snap/text yet they flake. Might be you’re just applying tricks here. The reason you shouldn’t be readily available is because you’re ACTUALLY busy with doing other things, not because you want a girl to respond or feel a certain way. I’d say you should be SO busy with other things, that if a girl cancels you feel kinda glad be…
/r/seduction07/11/18 08:02 AM
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It unfortunately isn't even in my control to change that. Yes can work on being more attractive, it’s simple: go work out or exercise, watch your diet, learn how to dress well, go to a hairdresser regulary, learn how to groom— and most importantly, learn how to enjoy life.
/r/seduction21/10/18 12:04 PM
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Well you can start by not thinking about dumb concepts like SMV
/r/seduction21/10/18 07:58 AM
2

Everybody deserves a voice, what kind of inhumane opinion is this
/r/seduction11/10/18 06:45 AM
2

No it’s not and I’m sorry you feel it is man
/r/seduction08/10/18 06:34 PM
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It’s called ‘freedom of speech’, and you should be able to deal with it. It’s your privilege to live in a society where you can be offended. The guy’s a dick, but he can speak his mind.
/r/seduction08/10/18 06:07 AM
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Better tip: if you run out of things to say, ask a question. You can prepare a few before you go out. What’s the coolest place you ever visited? Why? which celeb actor is the hottest? Which female actor? Which couple? Which celebs should totally hook up? Which movie was the dumbest you ever saw? What does your mom do? What’s the coolest thing she ever said to you? And so on. Listen to the answers, and genuinely ask follow up questions.
/r/seduction28/09/18 07:06 PM
2

I read your “did you read the post?” as passive aggressive, which makes you the one who attacked first
/r/seduction24/09/18 04:50 PM
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I found it unclear as well. And I think your way of pointing it out is passive aggressive and unpleasant. You’re basically attacking someone because you thought he didn’t read the post. Even IF that was true a different approach would be more appropriate. People make mistakes, no need to get angry at them right away.
/r/seduction24/09/18 08:45 AM
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Make sure you don’t confuse ‘vulnerabilities’ with ‘insecurities’ though, like I did. Vulnerability is showing emotions (like frustration, pain, but also happiness) without neediness or doubt. Insecurities are showing doubt, uncertainty, relying on others approval to make a decision.
/r/seduction19/09/18 06:49 AM
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The trick to keep a conversation is asking questions. Then, you listen to the answer, which will give you input for more questions. Practice this on anyone, you’ll get better at it. I dont enjoy sports, i dont drink, i dont watch tv. So what do you do? I assume you have a job? You go on holidays? You have SOME activities you enjoy? If not, try to find new stuff you like. Sign up for things: dance lessons, a dj workshop, improv, or an economy course. If you have no idea what you like, just try a …
/r/seduction27/08/18 04:26 PM
2

Yeah, I’m with the other commenter, I don’t like anti-depressants since they do not cure the depression, they just relieve the symptoms, if the symptoms are serious (i.e. suicidal thoughts or severe impairment of daily activities) pills are OK, but you have to work on your depression or it might never go away. Many times I feel depression is the result of 1- not having learned that your own wants and needs are important, and 2- not having learned the tools (behaviour wise) to reach/ achieve/ get…
/r/seduction29/07/18 06:01 PM
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You sound (slightly) depressed. Does the low energy and not being interested in things spill over into the rest of your life?
/r/seduction28/07/18 07:23 PM
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I feel your opinion on not chasing girls is right, and the girl you give as an example is not worth your time. However, I think the way you’re approaching it is wrong, because you’re approaching dating (at least in your example) as a rational, logical exchange of words and actions. Which it’s not. Secondly, I think your actions towards this girl were not strong enough. Basically, you didn’t show her you were truly interested— basically the same thing you blame her for. "awesome because I like yo…
/r/seduction06/07/18 07:03 AM
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The ancestors of the Aztecs and Mayas (and native Americans etc) are technically Asian
/r/seduction22/06/18 06:21 PM
5

seeking approval and laughter from others. Yeah this is the main problem, not the (amount of) jokes. Best to try and fix the neediness
/r/seduction18/06/18 08:09 PM
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Let go of the victim mentality dude
/r/seduction18/06/18 06:49 AM
1

It always surprises me how on this forum one example of one crazy girl gets used as proof that all women are the same. It was on TV ffs, that’s a solid indication that this girl is not the norm.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/18 09:42 AM
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What works, works. What doesn't, doesn't. Nice wordplay, but this doesn't mean something isn't immoral. OP can indeed do whatever the fuck he wants (within legal limits), but that doesn't mean he's an upstanding citizen or a good human being. And I agree with OP, he's being a dick, even to RedPill standards, because I think one of the backbones of RedPill is to be honest in your intentions.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/18 02:16 PM
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I agree with this, I don’t like the suggestion of heels either, but this was not your original point. You’re switching the subject so you can win the argument.
/r/seduction13/03/18 07:07 AM
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The “don’t be a try hard”-bit was about personality and conversation, OP clearly states you should try hard to look your best, and he’s right.
/r/seduction13/03/18 06:54 AM
3

Well if you feel ‘not showing any vulnerability ever to women’ is living a good life. Have fun performing your strong alpha act for the rest of your life.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/18 09:05 PM
1

I think in general when men talk about "being emotional" what they mean is to show their insecurities. Agreed But women don't care about men being vulnerable. Not on the first date, no. Not too much in the first few months, those should be fun. But for a LTR, a relationship with a mental connection, it’s a MUST. But if you’re in it for the dating, you are right. I don’t know Mark Mansons definition btw
/r/TheRedPill24/02/18 05:18 PM
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Vulnerability, emotions, are NOT a weakness. The women I know can handle this very well, including my gf. Amd again, vulnerability and insecurity are two very different things. You should never show any form of sad emotions, rather weakness to women. Dude, you can live your life like that if you want to, but damn, that’s a sad outlook. I’m just saying, I don’t, and I do fine with women. Great even.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/18 05:16 PM
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She's attracted to your strength at solving your own problems - not you're "vulnerability". You still think of vulnerability as a weakness. The “problems” you describe, I’m not sure which kind of problems you’re talking about. The regular life problems I encounter have nothing to do with me being insecure or vulnerable, and they have as such no effect on any attraction a girl might have for me. So I don’t know what the ‘chink in my armour’ would be. For sure it’s NOT me being emotional or vulner…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/18 05:12 PM
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You made the common mistake of confusing ‘being vulnerable’ with ‘being insecure’. Being insecure is unattractive to any gender. Insecure is when you’re being indecisive, weak, self-pitying, reluctant to handle. “There was a conflict at work and John criticized me. I don’t know what to do now, maybe he hates me, I’ll just keep my eyes open the next few days”. Being vulnerable is when you’re upset, emotional, angry maybe, and not scared to show it to others. I can not emphasize enough how this is…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/18 03:46 PM
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Hah yeah I know what you mean— but often those guys are somewhat oblivious in that they truly believe they have their shit together, where guys like you and me (I assume) are a little too hard on ourselves. Which means, those guys act like they doing fine, while we act like we’re losers. To some extent it’s a self-fullfilling prophecy.
/r/seduction02/02/18 10:11 AM
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Can’t you? I’m a guy and I can sense if someone has their shit together pretty quickly.
/r/seduction02/02/18 08:06 AM
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I think this is a naive view of how people’s minds work. I know no one who really thinks you can get success in a Rocky-montage-way. I also don’t know many people who think succesful people are demi-Gods. I DO know quite a few people who think it’s luck or talent which makes people successful, and with that taking out the hard work successful people have done and taking out their own accountability for NOT doing the hard work needed to be successful. I also don’t agree with your “is easy”-list. …
/r/seduction12/01/18 12:25 PM
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I think he was pointing out the reasons why HE thinks success is unattainable.
/r/seduction12/01/18 12:16 PM
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Always be honest, but don’t be blunt— no need to hurt feelings. But show decisiveness and a little pride, because it feels like you haven’t up to now. Sure, you like the girl, but you really don’t like the choices she makes about you. You can tell her that— “Hey I really like you, but I’m really not happy with how this is going”- style. Btw, this only really works if it comes from a humble-yet-confident place: don’t judge her actions (harshly), she might have hidden reasons for it, so respect he…
/r/seduction31/12/17 09:24 AM
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You're approaching girls the same way you are approaching your depressive thoughts: with short term solutions. You are using girls to feel better, just like you use reddit or alcohol. You know what happens after? You feel worse. It's because you're trying to cure symptoms in stead of the cause. What's your greatest weakness? Do you tell them you feel depressed sometimes and watch Netflix the whole weekend while getting drunk on reddit? No I don't, you know why? Because I don't watch Netflix the …
/r/seduction26/12/17 09:38 AM
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Wouldn't you advise the same to women? To craft a life such that men don't fuck it up? No I wouldn't, I wouldn't make the distinction between men and women in this case, and I would not advise people to craft their life focusing on other people's perceived influence on it ('fucking it up'). And misogyny means political incorrectness, not factual incorrectness. I'm all about political incorrectness, but misogyny is not about that, misogyny is about thinking women are inferior to men. Women are di…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 09:23 PM
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I was with you until the misogyny kicked in
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 08:56 PM
1

This post is about unproductive complaining Yeah thought as much, but I think your post is unclear, and some examples you're giving are pretty bad, like the one I quoted. I think your comment completely misses the point of my post. When that happens, do you consider that maybe the point of your post wasn't clear?
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 08:30 PM
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This sounds way too much like tolerating bullshit without speaking your mind. To be invisible. To subdue your feelings. Fuck that. I'm about to get my ass whipped for setting stuff on fire when I was told not to, "Turn around and suffer in silence" Whoever told you that is a moron. You’re wrongfully accused and you’re supposed to sit down and shut up? Emotions can be a big force in your life if you use them the right way. Emotions are what make you human, and if you think women don’t like emotio…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 07:02 PM
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You need to give examples of what ‘stuff’ you read but can’t put into actual work, you can’t say “hey I’m trying to apply stuff to be a better basketball player but it’s not really working”. Having said this, you sound like you need to stop and think. Don’t “just keep talking to women”, stop and think and ask yourself: what are you trying to achieve, and more importantly, why? Don’t post it here, answer yourself truthfully. Are you having trouble talking to girls? Or talking to people in general…
/r/seduction05/12/17 10:32 PM
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I’m gonna give you the golden tip about finding out if a girl is interested in you, so you’ll never be unsure again. Here it is: IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THE GIRL IS INTERESTED OR NOT. What matters is if YOU are interested. Are you? Ask her out. By trying to assess if a girl is interested, you are looking for validation, looking for (her) approval. Stop fishing for approval, here and everywhere, because it will hold you back.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:50 AM
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You got a fine example of redpill self fulfilling prophecy. She tries to reach out, rekindle somewhat after she dated someone else and got a renewed respect for you, and you respond with a cold and calculated reply. What did you expect that was gonna happen? Also: how history and events are often manipulated and revised by women. *by people Everybody does that, not just women. We’ve only heard your part of this story, and very briefly at that. How do I know you are not revising history? How do y…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/17 05:28 PM
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Consider this: what's the reason you want to tell her? The real honest reason? Very probably answer: because you want her to say it's ok. Said in a different way: you want her approval. And why is that? Because you're insecure about the situation, which is perfectly natural. Pro Life Tip: never say things because you want approval. It will make you feel better about yourself and it improves your relationships, especially romantic ones, immensely.
/r/seduction08/11/17 05:40 AM
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He suggested I'm outcome dependant I don't think he did, his main point was "don't wait for some sign or action from the girl before you approach", which you were suggesting. Also, this is a big ass, defensive post for someone who "doesn't care about downvotes" or "people liking him here". If you really didn't care you wouldn't feel the need to mention it, I think.
/r/seduction03/11/17 05:00 AM
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I disagree somewhat, I think confidence comes from experience and acceptance, competence is not a requirement (but often follows from experience). You can be pretty bad at something, but if you're ignorant and don't realize it you can still feel confident-- and if you do realize it, that's obviously even better. For instance: I'm not good with using color in graphics (websites, powerpoints) and I probably never will be. If I would try to be competent in it, it might lead to anxiety, because it w…
/r/seduction01/11/17 02:32 AM
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Yeah that's the thing these posts usually DON'T do (although I really liked OP's post): give you tips on how to achieve it. I feel like No body taught me how to think for myself I had the same, and in my case I think it was because my mom was a little overbearing (always doing things for me, like make me sandwiches, go shopping with me, call the hairdresser for an appointment) and my dad was a bit authoritarian (he thinks he knows best on pretty much everything, is slightly paranoid and doesn't …
/r/seduction27/10/17 03:11 PM
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You make her think that you have your own life and enjoy it more than chasing her A better 'trick' is to actually have your own life and enjoying it. This is the 'cure' to most of the symptoms-- even the cure against getting too heavy feelings too fast
/r/seduction18/10/17 01:32 PM
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this is also part of the problem Part of which problem though? I think you not being able to handle the problem well and the girl losing interest are symptoms of the same cause: you not being confident yet, or at peace with yourself, or however you wanna call it. If that is true, there have been more moments then just this one where your insecurity showed, however you tried to hide it (or 'keep frame' as redpillers call it). And people (mostly) have a very good radar for this stuff. You can sens…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 09:13 PM
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I don't get where you guys keep finding these girls. My experience is completely the opposite of what is posted here. But you are being very vague in what exactly happened, which enables circlejerking. "Here's proof for what this subreddit preaches: if you show weakness, the girl will bail1!!1!" But what kind of weakness are we talking here and what exactly did you say? Very often I get the feeling people here are faking confidence, where 'keeping frame' is a performance trick they need to keep …
/r/TheRedPill12/10/17 06:51 PM
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Jesus fucking christ can you let someone enjoy their achievement?
/r/seduction11/10/17 04:49 AM
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Dude it's like 2% of the guys get all the dates. Everyone knows this. That makes no sense at all, purely on a logical basis. And the "everyone knows this" is something people say who have experience in a circlejerk. So, source?
/r/seduction23/09/17 02:50 PM
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Girls can smell low confidence even through a computer. Well, yeah, but that shows through everything. If you're anywhere normal in confidence you should do ok
/r/seduction23/09/17 02:47 PM
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So you're handsome and smart, and you have zero pictures of yourself where you look good? Not even friends can make you look good in pictures?
/r/seduction23/09/17 02:45 PM
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I'm a handsome guy who is intelligent and funny After 3 months of hard work on my online dating presence, I had literally 0 dates However you want to spin it, this does not add up. There are thousands of guys getting dates through Tinder every day but you, a handsome, smart and funny guy who really did his best on his profile gets 0? Come on. The only way the above is true is of you are really bad at chatting, and in that case I would say: trying to improve on that is a better plan than abandoni…
/r/seduction23/09/17 03:05 AM
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The hypocrisy of these kind of posts always amaze me. "Married women cheat, so don't marry and sleep with married women." You're like a kid saying "well they're doing it so why can't I!!!" Grow up.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/17 09:45 PM
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So...it'll make a guy make more mistakes, because he's scared to make a mistake. Sigh.. no, your advice will make a guy afraid to make mistakes, which will stifle him, which is not a good thing. I don't know how you can accuse me of not being able to understand logic if you can't understand this. Your illiteracy and propensity for massive misunderstanding is absolutely astounding. I'm actually impressed one could engage is such blatant cognitive dissonance. Haha what the fuck. Did you try to use…
/r/seduction19/09/17 07:35 PM
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Your argument is that "teaching this will make guys make more mistakes." No, again: my argument is that with that advice guys will be scared to make mistakes. And being scared decreases your chances with girls. Honestly, if you still didn't get that that was my point this discussion is pointless. If you're scared to make mistakes with a girl, go into a different business. Just give up now. Business? Wtf are you talking about? Coaching business? I'm not a coach, not in this area anyway. I'm inter…
/r/seduction19/09/17 07:19 PM
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This doesn't make any sense. "Don't get hit," your boxing coach says. Your response - "That's gonna make people afraid to get hit and not enter the ring." Correct. If you enter a boxing match, there's one thing you can be sure of: you're gonna get hit. So this is useless advice, possibly worse: the boxer will get hit and might feel he is failing at boxing, which might make him quit. Makes a lot of sense to me. Strawman. Not sure how any of this applies to what I was arguing. It's not a strawman,…
/r/seduction19/09/17 01:30 PM
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You're right of course, but I wasn't saying "do anything that pops up in your mind on impulse". Filter your words and actions based on the situation, but the intent has to be true to yourself. You can even do or say something (or usually, not say something although you might want to) that's not completely true to yourself, because it's the smart/ sensible/ modest thing to do. But you still have to be aware of how you felt about it. It has to be a conscious choice.
/r/seduction18/09/17 09:51 PM
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Which is very human, you'll never fully get rid of it-- I still do it too :-) That's why it's good to dtop and think: "wait-- did I say 'yes' just now because I wanted to or because I wanted to please somebody? Or didn't I want to disappoint that person?" A mind trick I used when I did it way too much was this: in stead of being with a girl or talking to a girl, imagine the exact same situation but with your guy friend, or your sister (if you have one). What would you have done/ said if it was h…
/r/seduction18/09/17 09:48 PM
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didn't want to feel like I was there solely to meet potential dates Why? Were you there solely to meet potential dates? (1) No? So why are you worried that you or anybody else might feel you were? The only thing that matters is your own judgement. Everybody else is entitled to their opinion about you. But that has no effect on you. (2) Yes? Good for you. You are totally allowed to go anywhere solely to meet potential dates. What I'm trying to show with the above is that you seem preoccupied with…
/r/seduction18/09/17 09:38 PM
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Bad advice, because this will make you scared to screw up which is waaayyyy worse than making mistakes. Fuck that. What are 'mistakes' anyway? Something that doesn't fit into someone else's definition of success? Fuck that even more. I've found that being true to yourself (if you're confident) pretty much eliminates 'mistakes'. 'Mistakes' I used to make frequently came down to saying things because I thought other people wanted to hear them. The moment I got more confident, I was able to state m…
/r/seduction18/09/17 09:19 PM
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Yeah I tend to remove posts after a while if I feel it's somewhat too personal or presumptuous. But happy you read it and could relate to it.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/17 12:27 AM
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I agree that exercise can combat the cause too-- if you are healthier and look better, for sure it will help you feel a bit more confident and happy. But this: Sometimes the cause is a feeling of uselessness. I think is not true, that is: I think there's always a deeper underlying cause to 'feeling useless', usually a form of low self esteem. And low self esteem is the root cause: feeling other people are better than you, and needing their validation to feel good about yourself. Even you exercis…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 03:10 PM
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You're confusing cause and effect, as so many do on this forum. You're not seeing depressed martial artists because depressed people don't do martial arts, not because martial arts cures depression. Exercising helps, makes you happier, but it's fighting symptoms, not the cause. Fighting the cause of your depression is the most important thing to do, and from there your symptoms will disappear and you can truly be happy-- exercising, socializing, going after what you want in life. If you only tre…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 01:07 PM
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Little late reply, but nonetheless. I want to be a bodybuilder. I want to read about philosophy. I want to eat well. I want to become a lawyer. I want to get my black belt in BJJ. Ask yourself for all of these goals: why? Best to not reply to me, because you need to be completely honest, regardless of other people's opinions. For your ears only. To give you some idea: if the answer to "why do I want to be a body builder?" is something like "because I want people to respect me" or "because I want…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/17 09:54 AM
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Just my 0.02$, I think OP is wrong. All change, real change, needs to come from within. Not from a schedule that you force yourself to follow. Not from pretending to be who you are not. From actually changing who you are, little by little. Addictive personality, or depression, or anxiety or insecurity often comes from low self esteem. That is the root cause: you depend on other people's praise, on external stimuli to do stuff. The problem with that is that you are not listening to what you want …
/r/TheRedPill25/08/17 01:30 PM
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No time can be wasted on activities that do not benefit you NO time? At all? So you can never just go out have a drink with friends? Enjoy a movie on your couch after a hard day of work? Sleep in for a bit on a saturday? Your life must be fun.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/17 01:18 PM
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I have had a lot of anxiety the last few days which boils down to my fear that his wife will approve of me less than she did before. Yeah, see, I feel this is what happens a lot with people on here: they think they "lost frame", and they'll work harder on not doing that in the future. You didn't lose frame, you were yourself. You're still insecure. Or beta, or bluepill, or however you wanna call it. Alcohol lowers the inhibitions, and it made you show your true self. So please: don't work on 'st…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/17 06:40 AM
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Honestly, most, if not all 'seduction tactics' (and even 'keeping frame' as RedPill calls it) are faking the behaviour that will come naturally when you're not overthinking it/ when you're actually confident and true to yourself. So well done :-)
/r/seduction03/08/17 07:19 PM
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OP provided a mind trick on how to apply the advice though
/r/seduction02/08/17 05:57 AM
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I'm lost. What's the warning? "Wait until you get a serious physical illness, your girl will bail?" That will not happen. A normal person doesn't bail when a loved one is physically injured. They might bail if the injured person is wallowing in self pity. They will also bail if they're shallow. But I guess your mind is made up. Thanks for the downvote, by the way.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/17 12:39 PM
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No, you were in one bad relationship with an awful woman, and now you think all women are like that. That is really unfair. Look man, I'm sorry that that happened to you, but it's really not fair to think all women are bad just because you had one shitty girl. And what I'm missing is your part in all this: don't you think you should have ended the relationship earlier? Weren't there indications she was like that? I had a shitty relationship for years, with mental abuse, but I can only blame myse…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/17 06:12 AM
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You will learn. That's pretty condescending dude. And I'm sorry that that is your world view. Here's mine. I've already experienced a medium term illness, and my then-gf indeed wasn't very supportive. You know why? Because the relationship itself wasn't good. In hindsight, and being honest, she didn't really respect me, and I didn't respect her. I really don't agree you can't show vulnerabilities. You can't show too many insecurities. A girl doesn't like it in a guy, but I think it's pretty univ…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/17 09:18 PM
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Yes so you shouldn't just focus on her, that would be the same. Also, I never said you should from now on focus on just your own needs until the end of time. Just sometimes, be egoistical. Use her for your pleasure. She'll like it.
/r/seduction20/07/17 08:34 PM
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You seem really focused on her. What do you want to do? Are you saying you have no preferences? Which positions do you like? What she probably wants is for you to do what you like. And use her for that.
/r/seduction19/07/17 09:03 PM
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No, I'm not young, but never had a serious health problem. But what does that have to do with the above?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/17 12:06 PM
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You're mixing up insecurities with vulnerabilities. Insecurities are unattractive, annoying, tedious, when people have them too much. Many, many people on here are like that: they're insecure, and they think you have hide them to have a succesful relationship. Which is wrong: you have to cure them. You have to work on yourself until you don't have that many insecurities any more. Which is not the same as vulnerabilities. You're not a rock. You can have stuff that hurts you, or makes you upset. B…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/17 08:15 AM
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As long as you are actually passionate about it, and don't let it go into addiction-territory, and in addition have a good life, this is fine and it will be attractive to your type of girls. What's not attractive if you're wasting your life away on gaming because you're secretly too afraid to go outside, or play "one last game" while you should have been making dinner or cleaning your bathroom.
/r/seduction06/06/17 09:10 PM
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don't discuss your problems Absolute bull. If you want an actual adult relationship with a woman, you need to actually talk to her. use mild dread Wat never ask for permission to do anything Well, obviously. You don't ask your friends for permission to go get a drink when you're at a game, or your parents or your colleagues. What you can do, however, is take the other persons wants into consideration. As you would do with your buddies. Again, I would say it's pretty essential that you do if you …
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 09:42 PM
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Yes so it would be more interesting to delve into why people deny it, and how you can avoid that
/r/seduction04/06/17 04:16 AM
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So you never smile with teeth showing? Which means if you're a real alpha, you don't need to clean your teeth? Or what's your point here?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/17 12:12 AM
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Ok there's some things you say that indicate you're doing something wrong. But every single time I like any of them in a sexual way and they figure out through other friends they immediately shun me and its as awkward as it was first "The figure out through other friends"? Why are they figuring it out through friends? They should hear it from you, and they should hear it rather sooner than later. One of the most important things that guys do wrong in dating is avoiding the issue, or even denying…
/r/seduction19/05/17 08:15 AM
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No girls love a douche. Well if that were true you should have no trouble finding a girl.
/r/seduction12/04/17 03:42 PM
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Disclaimer: I'm not redpill, but I did read up on seduction years and years ago when I had trouble dating and it did help me realize what went wrong. I think a lot of guys on here are bluepill in disguise. Maybe this goes for you as well. My theory is this: so you're a bluepill guy, you can't get a girl. You read about redpill, about how certain behaviors attract girls. You apply them, and behold: it works! Not EVERY girl is interested, but a lot more then when you were bluepill. You decide to a…
/r/TheRedPill08/04/17 04:01 PM
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The other way doesn't work. You don't buy sex and love with good behavior. That's not the other way. That's A nother way, and I agree that you don't buy sex with good behavior. As a matter of fact, you don't buy sex and love at all. And I completely agree that 'bluepill', a.k.a. "being nice so the girl will give you sex" is a bad way to go. However, that shit can, very definitely, kill your chances with a woman. Yes. Exactly the same as RedPill-behavior can, which was my point. If you're ever wo…
/r/TheRedPill08/04/17 07:51 AM
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So the strategy is twofold: First, become the kind of guy women want validation from. Second, be stingy with that validation and use it as a reward for sex. That, indeed, will scare of all normal girls and leave you with the crazies who need guys for validation. Congratulations on completing your self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/TheRedPill07/04/17 10:08 PM
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Happy to read your edit. Many, many, many on this subreddit blame the girl(s), which is bullshit. Often there is no blame, and if you want to blame someone, blame yourself for being a pushover. If that girl was your brat sister, or your best buddy, you'd have told her cheekily to fuck off after one month. Maybe after one week. You don't need tricks to attract girls, you need to be who you are, putting yourself on number one, trying to be the best version of you. Despite what you read on here a l…
/r/TheRedPill25/03/17 10:56 PM
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What does it matter? You're looking for validation to approach a girl. The only thing that counts is if you like a girl. If you do, take action, and you'll find out if she likes you back.
/r/seduction25/03/17 09:26 PM
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It matters that any woman can ruin your life by the power of the state. But isn't this true for many things? My system admin can get me jailed by putting kiddie porn on my computer tomorrow. My boss can get me fired this week. My women co-workers can get me in serious trouble if they claimed I sexually intimidated them. My barista can give me diarrhea every day I go there. Hell, anybody I pass on the street can clock me. But this hardly ever happens. Why? Because most people, including women, ar…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 08:26 PM
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Well it seems like guys on here allways encounter spermjacking crazies while I pretty much never meet them. So please, explain your sarcasm.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 05:43 PM
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I have a better idea: "don't date a deceitful person. If you can't tell if the person you are dating is deceitful, work on your perception and communication skills". And "if you keep finding the people you date are deceitful, reevaluate the way you are meeting people and/ or the way you chose them." This beats you having to pretend, or using tricks or guidelines for your behavior.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 07:49 AM
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Not the guy you responded to, but: it means you need to signal the girl that you are interested in a sexual way. You don't have to actually touch her (at first), but you have to let her know you fancy her. By the way you look at her, the way you talk to her, the kind of jokes you make.
/r/seduction25/02/17 11:41 PM
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Imo the act of deleting pics of you and your ex is like trying to say that part of your life never happened. That (imo) is ridiculous. This seems a little harsh. Sure, no need to deny previous relationships, but there's also no need to remind yourself or your current SO of them all the time.
/r/seduction25/02/17 07:11 PM
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You need to be confident with it, bordering on arrogant-- but always playful. It has to be rooted in true confidence and playfulness. Also, tease them a little. Make an innuendo here and there-- let them know you find them sexy. If you treat a girl as a friend, they will see you as a friend, and not as a possible boyfriend.
/r/seduction25/02/17 06:22 PM
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"Let me get the check."
/r/seduction12/02/17 10:55 PM
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I think it's good- way better than trailing after her while you kinda didn't want to. So good job in that! You didn't let the neediness get the better of you. And honestly, she probably wasn't/ isn't really interested in dating you, or she wouldn't have suggested it. Obviously I can't be sure, but it wouldn't surprise me. Next time something like this happens you might wanna emphasize a positive attitude (if you didn't do that already): in stead of saying (or oozing) you don't wanna go, say what…
/r/seduction05/02/17 10:24 AM
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If you've been on reddit since 2011 and you have never been on Askwomen you've been avoiding the front page, that one was (or is) one of the main subreddits. How did you manage that? I called you a moron because you were being an asshole. Don't worry, I'll cry myself to sleep later feeling guilty. Also, where am I backpedalling exactly??
/r/TheRedPill21/01/17 09:21 PM
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Yes I make it a point to spend at least two hours a day on either. No you moron, I've been on reddit for ~3 years, and when you're on one subreddit, it sometimes refers to another subreddit, and so forth. You don't have to be long on TRP to see it's a big circlejerk. Same with other subreddits.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/17 08:31 PM
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Jesus, you were still on reddit two hours later? I was drunk by then with hundreds of my best friends!
/r/seduction21/01/17 10:41 AM
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Well, try Askwomen or foreveralone, together with TRP my top 3 confirmation bias subs. :-( And Askwomen is the worst, because there's some serious censoring going on. At least here you can post a comment arguing a different point of view.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/17 10:38 AM
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Me: apart from exceptions, guys are not ugly. You: what about exceptions? Me: I just said, apart from exceptions You: rofl lol omg why u so mad
/r/seduction21/01/17 12:18 AM
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What part of "90%" did you not understand?
/r/seduction20/01/17 11:56 PM
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That's funny, my gf never mentioned Melania once, she only talks about Trump and his politics. So how about you edit your blanket statement about all women?
/r/TheRedPill20/01/17 10:27 PM
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Because ugly people are ugly because they don't take care of themselves-- not because they have an actual ugly face. 90% of 'ugly' males are not actually ugly, but are fat, unkempt, unfit, insecure, and so forth. A man who is confident, fit, dresses well and grooms himself well is almost never ugly.
/r/seduction20/01/17 10:19 PM
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It's the problem with redpill, but also foreveralone or bluepill and on here: the focus of the guys posting is way too much on women. Positive, negative, not getting laid, getting laid, it doesn't matter: your self esteem relies too much on (not) getting the girl. There's the world, and you. Focus on those two, including girls, but mainly on you and the world.
/r/seduction18/01/17 11:32 AM
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Not OP, but I think he's right. Most TRPers I see on here have their self esteem tightly coupled to how many (hot) girls they can get. That's a sign of low self esteem. Many cultivated it into faking they're confident and don't give a fuck. But secretly, they do. They learned how to perform a bunch of tricks succesfully so they can score girls, and resent those girls for falling for those tricks ánd having to apply those tricks to get laid.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/17 08:33 PM
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Why? Why are you afraid to let a girl know you want to have sex with her? That's your problem. What you're saying is basically "I want to have sex but I think it's wrong to want to have sex." So why? To give you an example, I had something similar, and in my case I'd say the underlying cause was that was afraid to offend girls/ people. Why was that? Because my self image and confidence was depending too much on other people's praise and approval. If I got a compliment on something, I was over th…
/r/seduction14/01/17 12:52 PM
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What a croc of shit. As long as you're angry, angry at groups of people because they did this to you or never gave you a chance boo hoo you're a fucking loser. You're giving them a huge amount of power over you. You're letting yourself STILL be guided by other people's opinions and judgement. What you need to be is HUMBLE. You need to realize that nobody owes you anything in life. That the guys who laughed at you, or the girls that scoffed at you didn't do it out of some evil masterplan of consp…
/r/TheRedPill13/01/17 08:49 AM
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Fair enough, good to hear that you have a willingness to learn. Not that you would care That's your low self esteem speaking man, stop it. And your 'reactive' sounds like 'passionate', which is a good thing (and way more common than you might think), but I can imagine combined with autism it can be tricky.. Anyway, I appreciate this response :)
/r/seduction31/12/16 04:32 PM
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You're SO convinced that you're right, you're even sure I've had the same experiences as you have. You're the equivalent of a religious extremist, but with relationships. Your truth is THE truth. Do you have any proof that they don't? What are you talking about, of course I have. I can go outside now and talk to 10 random women and find a few. Probably also a few superficial ones, or stupid ones. But a few good ones too, for sure.
/r/seduction29/12/16 09:47 PM
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there's just something wrong with their mindset Be very careful with this. You're blaming them for your problems and that's wrong. You are not entitled to anything. Amd the trick is not to avoid what pains you (women) but to accept it for what it is. It's just pain. You can lead a pretty good and fullfilling life without ever having a woman. And don't get me wrong, I'd like you to get a gf. People who actively don't want you to be happy are really not many people. But if your mindset is "all wom…
/r/seduction27/12/16 03:54 PM
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You're projecting your reality onto this situation. Did you smile when guys talked to you? Listened to their music? Eventually talked more to the guy?
/r/seduction08/12/16 11:56 PM
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You should have made your move earlier then, now it's too late. Move on.
/r/seduction19/11/16 09:07 AM
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Why thank you. And you're right, my ratio is off I think. But I also am not taking into account how the guy in the relationship is often as much to blame for the failure as the woman. On this subreddit, many try to boil it down to a black-and-white scenario "woman bad man good" while in reality it's always nuanced.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 08:10 PM
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Yes there is, but on this forum there's a lot of confirmation bias going on. If there's 10 happy marriages and 1 where the woman screws the guy over you're gonna be like "SEE!!1!! IT'S TRUE!!"
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 02:47 PM
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Do you like 100% of all people? The trick is not to try and convince yourself people are not judging you- they might. The trick is to remind yourself it doesn't matter. It has no effect on your life whatsoever. Your self esteem is probably relying too much on the approval of others. Try to slowly work on that. Remind yourself that the only one you actually need to please is yourself.
/r/seduction04/11/16 02:23 PM
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What utter bullshit. The wording is not important, the reason is important. Why are they getting a divorce? Did he cheat on her? Was he a loser who played games 24/7? Was he a drunk? Did he only shower once a week? So many legitimate reasons for her to dump his sorry ass. Maybe he was too weak willed to realize the marriage sucked. She did, and had the guts to take action.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/16 09:08 AM
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Well that escalated quickly.
/r/seduction16/09/16 05:15 PM
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Why are you looking for an excuse to text her? Why not text her with the actual reason you wanna text her?
/r/seduction27/08/16 09:31 AM
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Because jerks are honest, nice guys are not. Nice guys will never tell a girl that the clothes she's wearing look bad on her, even if they do. A jerk will tell her right away. A nice guy will make a girl feel nice right away, but will never challenge her. A jerk will challenge her right away, and make her work for his approval, which makes him way more interesting and rewarding in the long run. For the geeks who still don't get it: there's two games. One of them is nice, which you get right away…
/r/seduction27/08/16 08:26 AM
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Agreed
/r/seduction14/08/16 04:21 AM
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I don't agree with the implication in your message that women have their own consistency, which might not be consistent to men. There's a judgement there that I see here all the time that is condescending at best and misogynistic at worst. To be clear: yes, I think men and women are different, and sometimes get hung up or emotional over different things. My gf sometimes gets emotional over things I don't fully understand, and vice versa. She has a right to be and I respect, as she does me. The g…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/16 08:31 PM
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Yes, and if he was actually a friend he would never have asked her to not talk about her bf. Because the reason he doesn't want her to talk about it, is because he is an orbiter who has feelings for her. What do you want people to do? To avoid talking about any and everything that might hurt you? You're not entitled to that. Man up. (Did that hurt your feelings?)
/r/TheRedPill18/06/16 08:16 PM
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So she fucks with this guys emotions This guy has a crush on her for four years. She is honest about that she doesn't feel the same way, but she enjoys his company. He hangs around for four years, and gets angry when she gets a boyfriend. So, recap from her side: she's upfront about her not being attracted to him, he decides to stay friends with her. She's fine with that, because she likes the guy, and trust him that he is ok with the relationship they have: a friendly one. She gets a boyfriend,…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/16 09:25 AM
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Well there you go. I always thought this sub was filled with closeted gay people, happy Redpill made you get the life you always wanted!
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 05:32 PM
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Maybe you should date other kind of women.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 08:07 AM
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He said seduction is like a dance because men take the lead and women follow, but you do it in a way where you are inviting them to dance rather than forcing. Everything you do when you are with a woman should be an invitation. Lead, don't force. Hope that makes sense. This is really good, and the core of everything between man & woman (me Tarzan, you Jane). As long as the girl knows she's in charge, you (the man) are in charge.
/r/seduction03/06/16 10:58 PM
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You're next 5 years will not be the same, simply because you're aware that you are in a situation you don't like and you've decided to change. That's 50% of everything: awareness. Give yourself a genuine pat on the back for that, well done. I think you kinda know what to do (practice social interactions, reduce your parents influence on your life, improve your health and looks) so I won't go into that (but let me know if you want some pointers). I think the most important part with all those imp…
/r/seduction26/05/16 06:51 AM
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How he came to believe that is irrelevant. It is VERY relevant. If he came to that conclusion because he wrongly assumed, he's an dumbass who should have verified his assumptions. I never misframed the argument Well if you think that 'how he came to believe it' is irrelevant, yes, you framed it rightly, and I misunderstood.
/r/seduction03/04/16 09:21 AM
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Well that's not what we were talking about was it. It was what I was talking about in the comment you responded to. You framed it like this: the guy might for some reason believe that the girl isn't single which to me sounded like the guy was assuming stuff, in stead of knowing. If you meant "a friend of his said she isn't single", as I already said, I agree. Which you did state clearly this time: My example was where he received false information, which he has no reason to disbelieve. So be a l…
/r/seduction03/04/16 08:58 AM
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No, I was saying if he doesn't know if she is single, asking her out is a fine way to find out. You can ask around, that's fine too. I didn't say it's ok to ask a girl out if you know she's taken-- I'm saying, don't assume. Find out.
/r/seduction02/04/16 08:05 PM
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There's another judgment without any base in reality. And now all of a sudden you start downvoting my comments? Big guy.
/r/seduction02/04/16 07:05 PM
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You sound like the type who thinks he knows all. Doesn't get much worse than an arrogant coward.
/r/seduction02/04/16 06:44 PM
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Hah nice try. I'm fine with the downvotes, but I can still ask for reasons. I might learn something. You might learn something. Why don't you man up and answer my question in stead of cowardly downvoting in silence.
/r/seduction02/04/16 04:38 PM
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the guy might for some reason believe that the girl isn't single That's really a bad example-- but a great example for proving my point. Because you know how to find out if a girl is single? By asking her out. If you don't because of (false) assumptions, you're being pretty stupid or even worse, you're being weak. You're not approaching because you're thinking for somebody else, because you're afraid you might offend her, or somebody else.
/r/seduction02/04/16 04:37 PM
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"No matter what's going on in your life, if you're interested in a girl, approach her," Ok, thanks for clearing that up-- that's not what I meant. The confusion is, to me, if I'm interested in a girl, it includes that I'm ready for a relationship. So, for instance, if a family member recently died and I was still processing that, grieving, I'm not gonna be interested in any girl. I can meet a cute girl, but I'm not interested because my mind is still occupied with other stuff. So this: dealing w…
/r/seduction02/04/16 04:31 PM
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so don't complain that men don't make the first move when women are just as capable of making something happen. I'm not the one complaining; guys are complaining that girls could also make the first move-- like you are. I'm telling guys who complain about that should get over it and start making that first move, because: 1- why would you not if you are interested? 2- it's better to do what needs to be done than to bitch about things that are not likely to change anyway.
/r/seduction02/04/16 04:27 PM
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I repeat, If a guy is interested in a girl So idd, not when the girl is meh. Because that implies he's not interested, if he thinks the girl is meh. I think it is more a fear of rejection thing Exactly. Which is why I said he should get over it and make the first move anyway.
/r/seduction01/04/16 12:03 PM
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Yes but he should get over it and make that first move anyway. If a guy is interested in a girl, there's really no excuse why he should not make the first move. EDIT: I don't really get the downvotes here. If I'm saying something stupid, please comment. For instance, give me that legitimate reason why a guy might not make the first move with a girl he is interested in.
/r/seduction01/04/16 10:49 AM
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Yes, that was my point :-) I was being sarcastic (hence the /s)
/r/TheRedPill14/03/16 10:01 AM
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Marriage, material security, raising a child are all secondary to being happy. OP was talking about how when you are dating a girl, you should be aware that you are probably one in a line of men she will or has dated. I am not debating that at all, I'm thinking: no shit Sherlock. If you can't handle the idea that your girlfriend has been with other guys without feeling jealous or distrustful, you have confidence issues. Reality is messy, I'm not denying that either. I've had my messy relationshi…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/16 12:19 PM
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If you're exhausted after work, you're doing the wrong work, or your work wrong. Meaning: if your work tires you out (especially mentally), there might be a problem. Not saying you should be full of energy at 6 pm, but you shouldn't be 'fed up' or 'done for the day' either. That, or your work is fine in itself, but you can't protect your boundaries-- i.e. You are having a hard time saying 'no' without feeling guilty. That costs a LOT of energy.
/r/seduction12/03/16 10:38 PM
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Yes, never commit emotionally. And die lonely. Sounds like a good idea. /s
/r/TheRedPill12/03/16 10:30 PM
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Thing is, how do you separate women who go for rich males without being attracted to them from women who are attracted to rich males because of money improving a man's SMV through improvement in his social standing? Agreed, that can be hard. But I think experience(s) will get you better instincts, gut feeling, whatever you want to call it to weed out the fakers. That will never work 100%, but I think it's important to not let the bad experiences make you bitter or defensive. Getting hurt is part…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 11:00 AM
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If she's still with you then you provide her with something she values, whether that's your wallet, your house, your emotional stability or your social status. So what you're saying is, my girl is with me because I have something to offer, and that 'something' can be all kinds of different things. So girls go for guys that have something to offer. No shit. But I wouldn't count that as gold digging. Gold digging to me is: a girl is with a guy because he has a certain monetary value, regardless of…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 02:38 PM
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Perhaps you haven't paid enough attention? Afterall, the TRP material continuously stresses on the fact that women are the best actors in the game. So what are you saying? That all the girls I met ARE secretly gold diggers? do you honestly, really believe that? If so, how do you explain that my gf earns quite a bit more than I do? But it could be also that if you expose the women for what they are (superficial and gold digging) Really? All (or most) women are superficial and gold digging? Man, y…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/16 11:58 PM
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Well... On this subreddit, you would start believing that, but I haven't met any gold diggers in my dating life. So in my experience, both redpillers and gold diggers are virtually non-existent. I think the difference between guys on this subreddit and my experiences is caused by the fact that redpilling (if you excuse the term) is a self fulfilling prophecy, in that if you treat girls as if they were superficial and gold digging, you will only get girls that are exactly like that.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/16 06:16 PM
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It's only a matter of time until men start writing guides on how to get laid more and use women just for sex. Oh wait.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/16 03:09 PM
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Dude, this stuff is not gonna work on a confident and intelligent girl. I can tell you're strong and independent, like you don't NEED a man This is really silly. The girls I'm into are the girls who see right through this and start laughing.
/r/seduction28/10/15 07:02 PM
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