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| 1 | Should a cheating spouse be awarded alimony? And other divorce questions....The fuck? We're talking about the spouse who would be receiving alimony divorcing. Not the one who would be giving alimony. Why would it even matter if the one who is giving alimony cheated? If that's the spouse who cheats then they're going to be responsible for alimony no matter what happens. In the future, please read comments before responding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/14 09:37 AM |
| 0 | Should a cheating spouse be awarded alimony? And other divorce questions....I'd figure it could work like feminists would like rape policy to work, get enthusiastic consent, have the sex and if you're brought to court you must prove that the partner agreed to every action Yeah, that's not how feminists want rape policy to work. Why do you guys at trp always feel the need to lie about what feminists think? Or we could just punish open marriages, bringing the risk to a very small percentage of people, as opposed to the general population which lean towards one marriage-on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/14 09:11 AM |
| 6 | Should a cheating spouse be awarded alimony? And other divorce questions....No, cheating implies deceit. If you lie to your partner and cheat on them then it doesn't matter what happened, it's your fault. Divorce them or tell them you're going to look elsewhere for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/14 09:03 AM |
| – | "Guide to PPD"Won't happen again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/14 07:00 AM |
| 7 | BP opinion on this TRP frontpage thread?Caring only for yourself and how things affect you is not a value or a principle. It is the absence of principle. It takes integrity to treat other people well while simultaneously maintaining self respect. The only thing you need to treat other people as means to an end is callous detachment. This is weakness of character, not self improvement. Trp takes men with a lack of self respect and teaches them to fix it with a lack of empathy. Fortunately the advice trp gives is either blatantly obviou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/14 12:56 AM |
| 11 | The Reality Of Divorce Rape(which is 99.9999% of women in a divorce) Actually, if you want to be accurate 30% of women now out earn their husbands and husbands look for alimony too. So I guess men are "gold digging whores" too. We're also at the point where marriages in which the woman is more educated than the husband fail at the same rate as other marriages, so this trend will likely increase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/14 12:12 AM |
| 2 | So a red piller supposedly actually opted for Heartiste's "thermonuclear option". Is this healthy? Ethical? Wise? True?Is being able to understand perfectly cogent English not alpha? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/14 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Why is shaming female sluts justified? Why isn't shaming male sluts just as justified?I blame anyone who thinks that this is the natural order and the "right way" to do things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/14 06:30 AM |
| 3 | Why is shaming female sluts justified? Why isn't shaming male sluts just as justified?The thing is, I wasn't talking about men. We're talking about women here, specifically the women who have sex because it's enjoyable. Why should they be slut shamed? They're not using sex as leverage or to get material compensation. They just enjoy it. They share absolutely nothing in comon with the men you mentioned, even within TRP framework. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/14 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Why is shaming female sluts justified? Why isn't shaming male sluts just as justified?Your analogy only works when applied to women who have sex with the specific intent of getting some kind of material benefit out of it. Male philanthropists are admired, not detested. They don't do it because they expect to get sex or make money, they do it because it makes them feel good. Even if we go along with your assumption that women are somehow giving something away when they have sex the analogy to "nice guys" does not work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/14 06:14 PM |
| 5 | Why is shaming female sluts justified? Why isn't shaming male sluts just as justified?And yet the men who give up their time and resources easily, not because they are expecting something in return, but because they enjoy philanthropy are universally admired. When someone is charitable because they enjoy the act of charity it's impressive. It's only when they do it to try to get laid that it becomes pathetic. So how is a woman who has sex, not because of some long con for tricking men into relationships, but because she fully expects a mutually enjoyable experience any different? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/14 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Lying to Prospective Partners for SexNo they don't... the prevailing opinion on TRP is to lie about following TRP. I believe it was called "learned sociopathy" where you lie with zero emotional affect. Now I will grant you that they tend to stress not making obvious lies to girls that they plant to trick into relationships. Sill, there's a lot of emphasis on acting in ways that make women think you have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/14 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Disaster Right Out Of The GateMaybe. It doesn't sound like he makes rational decisions. I don't think her being on his side will make him mature any. She's way more logical than he is. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/06/14 09:06 PM |
| 4 | Disaster Right Out Of The GateAll of the research articles I've read say the exact opposite. Men lie to make themselves look better and women lie to make situations work out peacefully. Are you sure about that? | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/06/14 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Disaster Right Out Of The GateGood, tell her I wish her all the luck in the world. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/06/14 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Disaster Right Out Of The GateYou should wish OP good luck. According to her story, she's objectively better than her husband at pretty much everything. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/06/14 08:56 PM |
| 6 | Disaster Right Out Of The GateDana, it is completely possible for marital problems to be caused by the husband's behavior. When that happens you have two options and only two options. Change your behavior in a way that causes the husband's behavior to change or get out of the marriage. I'm not going to counsel divorce because that's a last resort nuclear option when literally everything else has failed. Too many people pick that option for every little problem that comes up instead of working on things. She can't change him.… | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/06/14 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Should traditional gender roles be fought, and how?Boys are not girls. There is nothing wrong with anything you listed if you treat them like little boys instead of misbehaving little girls. Do you have any idea how many boys die each year because they avoided seeking medical attention until it was too late? Do you know how many boys fail out of college because they don't have the ability to concentrate on their studies? These are good behaviors somehow? Be honest with me and seriously consider why it is you think these behaviors are somehow goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/14 09:33 AM |
| 2 | Should traditional gender roles be fought, and how?You don't stamp on a persons natural hormonal development because you don't deem it benefitial. Obviously if your talking about outright physical aggression, that's something that crosses lines and is not conducive to a healthy society. So you're drawing a line between some behaviors that are acceptable and some that are not. The criteria you cite is whether or not these behaviors are "conducive to a healthy society". Steering right past the discussion of which behaviors fit that qualification, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/14 05:29 AM |
| 9 | Disaster Right Out Of The GateHe's also in a "power struggle" with his kid apparently. Her problem was marrying an inferior man in the first place. If that guys doesn't change, they're not looking at ever having a happy marriage. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/06/14 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Should traditional gender roles be fought, and how?Oh! OK, so it's like FGM in that it's unnecessary but it's not nearly as damaging? I was circumcised when I was little so I have no idea what having a foreskin would be like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/14 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Should traditional gender roles be fought, and how?I admit, I don't really know much about either male or female GM. Does circumcision degrade penis function somehow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/14 10:53 PM |
| 5 | Should traditional gender roles be fought, and how?natural testosterone driven inclinations A large problem as I see it is that no one seems to agree on what these inclinations are. Just because behavior is "natural" by which I assume you merely mean common, does not mean the behavior is beneficial or acceptable. There are many "testosterone driven behaviors" that are actually bad for both boys and the people around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/14 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Should traditional gender roles be fought, and how?I'm not familiar with those acronyms... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/14 09:38 PM |
| 7 | So what's sexually appealing to women?So, which question are we answering: "Which kind of guys get the most sex?" or "Which kinds of guys are most sexually appealing?" These two questions are very different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/14 09:35 PM |
| 0 | RedPill alternativeand so on. Interesting but you seem to be putting words in my mouth. I don't believe that the social ineptness of people is anyone's problem but their own. That's not to say that teaching them the right way wouldn't be a good thing. I think it would be great if these guys got some sane (not redpill) advice about self improvement. What I don't believe, however, is that women or society or other men have a moral responsibility to somehow make sure these guys get laid. It's absolutely insane to thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/14 10:12 AM |
| 2 | Why TRP's view of "Women in love" makes no senseIt's been shown pretty conclusively in another response that PUAsenator is lying about his beliefs about women and their capability to love either here or in TRP (though let's be honest, he's lying here). He's intentionally making his argument much less extreme than it is in TRP itself in order to deflect criticism. I know you prefer posts with visual aids but I don't have the time to help you with that. I can only link you to an article that cites a study (you know, actual science) that not onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 08:31 AM |
| 1 | RedPill alternativeYour anecdotal evidence is unproductive. You did not get laid because of advice that is exclusive to TRP. You got laid because you worked on improving yourself. There are tons of people who would have suggested you do that without also becoming a terrible person. So yes, you should stop with the TRP stuff because it's not helping you get laid. It's not making your life better. You are. By putting effort into self improvement. Other people probably even told you this but you didn't listen because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 07:43 AM |
| 5 | RedPill alternativeUm because killing is morally wrong? And men not having sex isn't morally wrong? Do you really think that killing a guy is somehow on the same level as letting him stay a virgin his entire life? That's completely fucked up. In all honesty society doesn't really tell men that they should act like that. It's just a notion that they get into their heads because they are incapable of understanding social nuance. It's not something done to them, it's something they do to themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 07:37 AM |
| 3 | RedPill alternativeThankfully it's mostly the socially oblivious ones that take stuff like that literally. They probably shouldn't breed anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 07:16 AM |
| 4 | Study: Men and Women Happier with ChivalryConley, T. D., Moors, A. C., Matsick, J. L., Ziegler, A., & Valentine, B. A. (2011). Women, men, and the bedroom: Methodological and conceptual insights that narrow, reframe, and eliminate gender differences in sexuality. Current Directions In Psychological Science, 20(5), 296-300. doi:10.1177/0963721411418467 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 03:51 AM |
| 12 | Study: Men and Women Happier with ChivalryI am not a fan of demure, submissive women. I don't, like, hate them or anything, but I don't generally feel attracted to them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not submissive myself either I just enjoy a woman who can take charge and get things done when she wants to. I'm pretty sure that goes for a large proportion of men. Your idea that the most attractive behavior for women is submissiveness is flat out wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 03:36 AM |
| 16 | Words to live by? "My Boner Is My Master"I don't... what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 02:48 AM |
| 5 | Female agency and why women don't fleeTo be honest it's more of a hash of three different replies I wanted to make. But yeah, both genders do it so it's not really thak that you. And fear of escalating a situation is a completely legitimate fear. So even though the guys in these kinds of situations are acting out of ignorance more often than malice I would argue that they're in the wrong for creating the situation without properly establishing communication of boundaries. Edit: "thak that you" should read: "something that can reason… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/14 03:41 AM |
| 2 | Female agency and why women don't fleeHmm, I am about 90% sure I don't. What happened here? That'll teach me to post on reddit after coming home drunk. My mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/14 03:18 AM |
| 11 | Female agency and why women don't fleePlease, you're hamstering, this isn't gender specific behavior. Everyone does it in high pressure social situations. Guess what, there's no higher pressure social situation than one where you might get beaten to death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/14 03:06 AM |
| 6 | How do men and women love differently?So men are dishonorable and flighty? They fall in love, then cheat, and then are divorced by their wives. That's why the divorce rate is 65% initiated by women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/14 05:27 PM |
| 8 | How do men and women love differently?I think it's the opposite. Women fall in love more, men lust more. Then in the middle of marriages men lose their lust because it's in their nature to lose it and go searching for another woman. Women, being better at picking up emotions, realize this and leave before the men have a chance to do so. Women don't initiate divorce because they don't love, they do it because they're smarter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/14 05:25 PM |
| 8 | How do men and women love differently?So men become shitty people after marriage which is why women leave? I often see posts saying that if a woman loses interest, it's your own fault, not hers. This is the only logical conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/14 05:19 PM |
| 12 | How do men and women love differently?I've never had any experience but loyal, wonderful women in my dating life. What you don't understand is that no one with my experience will ever join TRP. That's why all your stories are about shitty women. People join who happen to have shitty experiences. You then learn and start to believe all the RP theory because it makes you feel good about yourselves that maybe your failures aren't your fault. Then, when you finally come across a good woman, you're going to be so hateful that you don't s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/14 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Is TRP ready to divorce itself from RoK?Number one come from someone unfamiliar with law. There are already penalties for perjury and it does not vary depending upon the severity of the crime. In addition, you will find that this law would actually increase the likelyhood of men being sent to prison for false rape accusations. Women are very often pressured into dropping charges. If every dropped charge resulted in a potential false rape accusation jail sentence, they would be far less likely to drop them. Number two sounds reasonable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/13 08:11 AM |
| 3 | Is becoming Red Pill sometimes a response to having no other access to social power?The difference in testosterone levels means that no, most women don't have nearly the same kind of experience with sex drives that men do. Trans people who have testosterone supplements or go from male levels of testosterone to female levels overwhelmingly talk about the change in libido. When we're discussing the tendency of redpill men to do something we are by definition speaking about statistical likelyhood. It's not implying anything like what you are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/13 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Can anyone here explain why your partner passing out during sex would piss someone off? Also, is it ever wrong to have sex with your unconscious partner?Can you consent to sex while unconscious then? I would say that the continuous consent for conscious sex derives from the idea that your partner will let you know in the event of revoked consent. In unconscious sex there is no possibility of continuous consent. Is it possible then to give consent beforehand for an act of unconscious sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/13 12:08 AM |
| 6 | Thoughts? -- Rape should not be a crime because it no longer causes the economic damage it once did. (17 upvotes, 1 down on TRP website Return of Kings)These kinds of posts do not contribute to the discussion. If you have a specific reason for not engaging then state it or say nothing. Calling people crazy shows that you are upset and emotional to the point that you cannot rationally engage in debates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/13 08:36 PM |
| 8 | The problem with the "it just works" argument for the red pillNo, the important part of the debate is that we don't understand how the brain works yet. Sure men and women are different, but how much of that difference is biological and how much is socialization are two questions no one has the answer to. Not yet at least. The argument you make is that men and women have fundamentally different mental abilities and tendencies. That's possible I suppose. I think we're a long way from being able to prove it. Personally I believe that the mental differences th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/13 07:30 AM |
| 2 | The problem with the "it just works" argument for the red pillBump it bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/13 07:09 AM |
| 2 | TRP and racism.Actually, I think you can have some very interesting arguments about the use of racism as a tool. There is also its merit as a survival strategy. Is racism good from the point of view of society? Obviously not. Is racism good from the point of view of an individual? You can make a strong argument for it. (good meaning beneficial to that person's life outcomes) If you take a group of predominantly racist people of the homogeneous ethnicity and place them in close proximity with a group of predomi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/13 10:04 PM |
| 12 | The problem with the "it just works" argument for the red pillSince you haven't objected to anything I said should I assume you concede the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/13 09:27 PM |
| 20 | The problem with the "it just works" argument for the red pillThat's like saying that the tap water in Miami tastes different from the tap water in Los Angeles, therefore the two are fundamentally different. No, your experience of the two is different but the vast majority of the composition is the same. People are way more complicated than that. If you treat a group of people differently than another group of people, they are going to act differently regardless of natural inclination. Just look at the Stanford Prison Experiment. Hell, look at groups of pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/13 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other?Would that even be ethical? You'd have what would essentially be a fully functional virtual human brain. Is it OK to experiment on something that in no significant way differs from an actual person? Presumably if you have an active and accurate simulation of a human brain there is no philosophical difference between that and a non virtual human brain. Experimentation would be a very thorny ethical issue. Besides, in order for the experiment to work you would have to feed the brain the same senso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/13 08:44 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe submissiveness is an inherently gendered trait? Why do some red pillers praise submissiveness in one gender and deride it in the other?I don't think there's a way to know the extent of social conditioning without changing society. We certainly aren't going to evolve new traits overnight. This means we can be fairly confident that any changes we see in behavior as society changes are caused by behavioral conditioning and not genetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/13 10:36 AM |
| 2 | How TRP misidentifies the cause of "reproductive inequality." Also, transgender people are not a "feminist fantasy" or semantic trick.That's the wrong argument. You need to stop arguing from a gender perspective and just call /u/soulcakeduck out for trying to use rare gender nonconformity to confound the argument. It's a cheap trick that wouldn't fly if he was actually trying to get to the truth. The correct argument is that the way things are currently set up, those with the capability for pregnancy have all the rights while those capable of causing pregnancy do not. /u/soulcakeduck is being deliberately obtuse; which is some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/13 04:00 PM |
| 2 | How TRP misidentifies the cause of "reproductive inequality." Also, transgender people are not a "feminist fantasy" or semantic trick.Well, I used soulcakeduck's weird brand of logic to go to a logical extreme of their conclusion. There are lots of value judgments in something like this so you certainly can't believe a single argument is going to be the final word in a debate like this. You could also argue that this doesn't apply to married folk because their responsibilities are legally shared. In a divorce the responsibilities would also be divided up according to maximum utility for the child. All this particular argument … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/13 03:51 PM |
| 1 | How TRP misidentifies the cause of "reproductive inequality." Also, transgender people are not a "feminist fantasy" or semantic trick.Jimmies were rustled but everything turned out ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/13 04:28 AM |
| 2 | How TRP misidentifies the cause of "reproductive inequality." Also, transgender people are not a "feminist fantasy" or semantic trick.Yeah, no it isn't. Nowhere in there is there anything about 100 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR! There is an equivalent subsidy of 166k of subsidies until age 13 which comes out to around $12,000 a year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/13 12:41 AM |
| 2 | If there is sufficient interest, my girlfriend may be willing to do an AMA.Nothing to do with you guys at all. Oh and on the same note there's no complaining about women not liking you when you openly insult their logical faculties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/13 12:39 AM |
| 6 | If there is sufficient interest, my girlfriend may be willing to do an AMA.The problem mostly comes up when you try to tell other women how they should be feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/13 11:19 PM |
| 2 | How TRP misidentifies the cause of "reproductive inequality." Also, transgender people are not a "feminist fantasy" or semantic trick.The way the law is currently written, those who are capable of becoming pregnant have an inherent advantage over those who do not when it comes to reproductive rights. They have the ability to make several decisions that will affect the lives of those who are capable of causing pregnancy. The inequality is not an inherent one but is instead a result of the current legal standards. Whoever has the right to choose to terminate the pregnancy can reasonably be said to have more responsibility for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/13 10:46 PM |
| 3 | How TRP misidentifies the cause of "reproductive inequality." Also, transgender people are not a "feminist fantasy" or semantic trick.You also need to live in the magical unicorn version of Singapore that actually has this law. Your source says no such thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/13 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Man wins $152m in lottery, his girlfriend demands half even though they aren't married. Oh and she instantly accuses him of domestic violence too!I fully agree with that point. If you disregard it in one then you disregard it in all. Morality of course is personal, emotional, and not really subject to the same standards of logic as phenomenological sciences. As far as not being a part of this subreddit... I actually think a lot of the things here are dead on. Approaching social and sexual situations from a scientific standpoint? I can't think of anything better. The major problem is that there is a HUGE inclination here to jump to biologi… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/11/13 02:32 PM |
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