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| 37 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western ones | Debate | ScoreBrief6837 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 04:04 AM |
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| 1 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menI mean I am pretty binary, I either am attracted to you or I am not and if I am then, yah, the 'rules' are less strict. But there is a middle category where I am neither attracted to him nor not attracted to him, just kind of blah and then his behaviour might alter how I feel. I imagine many women feel similarly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/25 11:39 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menFunny thing is a lot of very rich, handsome men treat women really well too! Just because a man can get away with treating women like garbage does not mean he will do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 05:30 PM |
| 5 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menHmmm I don't think women all want the same man though...my friends have vastly different tastes to me: some like big muscles, another likes the skin pale guitar playing dude, another likes the blue collar bear type. I have had guys who were objectively gorgeous come onto me and turned them down as they were not my type, they did not do it for me for whatever reason. It is fair to say women often lower the threshold for men they are very attracted to, yes, but also women lower the threshold becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menWell if a woman is not so attracted to a man but he is not repulsive to her, depending on her personality type, she will either cut him off OR give him a chance if he treats her well, is generous and pleasant to be around. If a woman is wildly attracted to a man, again depending on the woman, she might be open to sleeping with him much quicker than she would a man she is so so about. That is not really surprising. Yes, people in general respond differently and change their behaviour based on how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Telling men to have more friendships with woman is misleading because women treat friendships and dating the sameSorry I feel like I am being slow lol! So what do you mean???? Attractiveness has little effect on the number of partners or what? Talk to me like I am 5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 09:30 AM |
| 3 | Telling men to have more friendships with woman is misleading because women treat friendships and dating the sameOMG that is so funny! But also very cute...and yah that is the biggest green flag if a guy has a lesbian bestie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Telling men to have more friendships with woman is misleading because women treat friendships and dating the sameSo you mean a good looking guy has only 2% more partners than an unattractive man? Did I understand you correctly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Telling men to have more friendships with woman is misleading because women treat friendships and dating the sameThat is so interesting! So what do you do with each other? Go to bars together? Hike? Do you talk about girl problems like you both complain we women take too long to get ready? How does it work? That is very cute and a green flag btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys REALLY hate being the sole provider ?So you do not know the women who are proud to have an OF? Well sure we live in a world of 8 billion people, I could find a woman who is proud to have an OF, boasts of being a bad mother and all kinds of things...we are talking about general trends here. At least in Europe it is VERY unacceptable for a woman to have an OF other than in very specific social circles. I cannot comment about the USA (I guess you are from there, could be wrong.) ''And while their husbands still slave away to provide, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/25 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductiveI dunno my 40 yo friend with 2 children from two failed marriages is living with a very handsome 25yo guy who pays most of the bills and wants a child... ofc it is anecdotal but I trust what I see happening with my eyes than statistics and I see plenty of single, younger men with older women with children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/25 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesRome fell, all civilisations fall. Spartan women were noted for their beauty and the men for their athleticism. Beauty, health, nobility-all possible because women married later and had a lot of choice of who they partnered with. There is a lesson there but not the one you think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/25 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys REALLY hate being the sole provider ?Are you saying that being a bad mother is not frowned upon? What kind of people do you know where being a wife and having an OF is considered acceptable? I am genuinely curious what kind of people you know and where you are where women are bad mothers, have OF and and keep a dirty house and that is somehow ok? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:25 PM |
| 0 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesok I am not an expert in red pill ideology lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesI have always been slim. Mostly I just grew into my face, my body got more sculpted, I used to only be able to grow my hair to shoulder length and now is down to my belly button, boobs got perkier from a better hormone profile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesI do not think red pill men are pedos, I think some of them base their ideas on a faulty understanding of history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesNuance means understanding things are not black and white, but rather situational. Cherry picking is picking the bits that suit your narrative and leaving the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:15 PM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesYay! Happy to hear! Yah if you read contemporary sources there are lots of nuggets. I think where people get confused is that there are some notable historical figures who married very young, largely for dynastic reasons as they desperately wanted an heir but these were extreme examples and not what was generally happening in society. They also see that legally there at certain points you could marry a 12 year old and assume that just because you can do something, people did it. There were less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesI genuinely think different women peak at different ages though...Monica Bellucci was more beautiful in her 30s and 40s than her 20s (and she never had surgery either) whereas Kate Moss was much more beautiful in her early 20s. I DEFINITELY am better looking now than in my 20s and I have photos to prove it lol. OMG! The difference! Again no surgery. So yah, it really does vary. Like I said, I have no issue with men being attracted to whoever they want but I just find Americans can sometimes have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Men are not attracted to young women because they are "naive and easy to manipulate" but mainly because they are thinner and have nicer skin. If you are a woman and you take care of yourself, you can post-pone "hitting the wall" and remain attractive even into your early 40s.I hate the idea that men who are attracted to young women (over 18) are pedos because that dilutes the seriousness of being a pedo. Being a pedo is the WORST thing a human can be. Even a 60yo liking a 20yo is not a pedo. We need to really stand firm on this as throwing that word around is pretty disgusting. I do think a 60yo who likes women in their early 20s though is setting himself up to fail, either he will fail to attract one or attract one based on his finances. Is that the ideal relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesI literally linked to data showing women married between 23-27 in Europe historically...europe has always had unique dating patterns compared to the rest of the world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 12:02 PM |
| 0 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western ones"idea in the red pill community is that a much older man would marry a 15 year old submissive virgin that was chosen for her by her parents." But that is the stereotype of what happened historically even if men do not personally wish to marry at 15 yo. I do not mind men being attracted to younger or older women or whatever (so long as she is of legal age) but plenty of men are attracted to and marry older women, single moms, overweight women- I see it all the time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 12:00 PM |
| 0 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesAre you European? Because like I said, European values are not Middle Eastern or South Asian values. European ideas around virginity varied depending on the time period. I am not saying virginity was not preferred but I am challenging the idea that people were as rigid as they were made out to be because European women have always had a fair amount of autonomy. Did you not read that I wrote earlier that up to 40% of children born in Austria in the 18th century were illegitimate? In Scandinavia t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesThere was this book on housekeeping in Tudor times, written by a man no less, who also advised women not be under 18 before marriage as he noted that children born to women so young were often unhealthy. I think 18 is a decent age physically to have your first child but I will say I was still quite undeveloped even at 18. Under 18 really is not healthy for mother or child though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesMiddle and lower class generally married even later than upper class as the women often would work as maids and such like to save up for marriage. I am not suggesting it was not a patriarchy, I am just challenging the idea that married very young, had little autonomy in who they married and were always virgins. The IDEAL back then was that a woman was a virgin, young (not underage so 18 plus)and to a much older man but it was not the reality necessarily whereas in the Middle East this scene is m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesBut the stereotype is that women would marry very young in the past, maybe I should have worded it better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:34 AM |
| 3 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesYah that was true of Athens but in Sparta the culture demanded that women were physically fit and ready for marriage so around 18 was the norm as they noticed that when women had children under 18 the children were less likely to be healthy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:32 AM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesExactly...they may not want a 15yo lol but they use this weird twisted version of history to justify their views when the history of Europe was simply not like that for most of Europe at most times (perhaps there were small enclaves where it was like that at certain points.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesI know right! He was as far from a beta as possible! And ofc women respected one of the most powerful men in all of Europe! What utter nonsense some men write who have little to no understanding of women! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesWell the rich are a part of society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesIt still challenges the idea that she would marry under the age of 18 or that accomplishments were not important. Basically the whole point of my post is that underage marriage was relatively rare in European history and often frowned upon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western oneswell 15,16 is not underage actually where I live first off...and yes, Andrew Tate has often mentioned that this is what used to happen to contrast with the later marriages happening now in the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:21 AM |
| -1 | Red pill misinterprets western historical dating and marriage patterns for non western onesVirginity might have been the ideal but lots of men were aware their future wives were not virgins but still went ahead with the marriage anyway, due to many reasons, love, pragmatism, money. I am pointing out that Europe, at least, we quite different to the rest of the world in terms of marriage and their attitudes to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/25 03:18 AM |
| 6 | Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductiveEvan Spiegel the snapchat billionaire married a single mom 7 years older than him...I think they met when he was 25 and she was 32. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 04:20 AM |
| 3 | Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductivebut there are tons of examples. Billionaire Evan Spiegel married the older single mom Miranda Kerr, even Sean Connery married a single mom who was older than him (by a year but still!) and thats just off the top of my head...there are tons of examples like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 04:18 AM |
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