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I think of the way men view female friends and women view male friends in terms of graphs. For men (at least for me and every man I know), every woman we ever meet (with the exception of relatives/the elderly/literal children etc.) could go on a graph that only has an X axis. One end of the graph is "this is the perfect woman for me and I want to exclusively fuck her forever" and the other end is "she's worthless to me and I could not care less about her life." And that's it. Obviously there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:22 PM
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Honestly there's just blame to go around. - A lot of women have higher cleanliness standards than men, then get mad when men don't automatically do a bunch of extra work that they don't care about. Or they think it's a "mental burden" to have to ask their husband to clean something he would never have noticed was dirty. That's shitty of her. - A lot of guys raise their cleanliness standards when they're dating a girl, then lower them again when they move in together and she ends up having to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:14 PM
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Lol yeah bad phrasing on my part. Should have said "WHY would you..."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:31 PM
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He's coming down from Charming?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:56 PM
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Say you have roped yourself into a hypothetical situation where you have covertly given not-so-subtle implications that you will fuck this guy and behave hypersexually around him (verbally), but continuously come up with excuses when he asks to come over or do some things but refuse to actually have full on sex with him repeatedly. Okay but how could this possibly happen? I can understand a man convincing himself he's seeing signals that aren't really there (been there, done that), but how could…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:55 PM
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Finally, a fresh topic!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:44 PM
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Interesting. I've personally never seen that IRL but I agree it's really stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:55 PM
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Like most issues on this sub, I think you're confusing two different groups of people: - Romantically oriented guys who wanted girlfriends when they were young but couldn't get them (due either to not being attractive enough or girls not wanting to settle down). They then criticize women in their 30s for being "ran through" because they see it as hypocrisy that women want relationships now when they didn't want them before - High sociosexual guys who want to sleep around and don't like when the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:43 PM
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Are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:44 AM
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Generic answers on a dating profile. I don't care if you're the hottest woman who was ever born, If I see "the way to my heart is food" on your hinge profile you instantly became unattractive to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:43 PM
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paternity tests only reveal possible past behavior, not predict the future for the rest of that person's life They literally predict whether you'll spend the rest of your life raising a kid that isn't yours or not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 08:07 PM
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I'm attracted to women who have hobbies and interests that they really enjoy and can talk intelligently about. Don't care what they are. A woman who's super into knitting (or something else I have no interest in) and can talk about it for hours and has visible passion is 100x more attractive than a girl who likes the same stuff as me but can't go past the surface level
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:33 AM
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Therapy. Did a lot more for me than lifting ever did lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 03:11 AM
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I’m a straight dude and my best friend is a lesbian that I’ve known for 5+ years. This definitively disproves your theory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 03:10 AM
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Both men and women want an idealized version of the opposite gender that can never exist, BUT the difference is that men would truly be satisfied forever if they somehow got their perfect fantasy woman, whereas women would move on to fantasizing about something else unattainable. Obviously it's completely unrealistic for a guy to want some sweet, virginal girl next door who happens to be insanely aroused by him and only him 24/7 while remaining endlessly devoted. But if that girl fell out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:37 PM
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Just by virtue of being on this sub I'm probably in the top percentile of men who overthink dating, and this has literally never crossed my mind. Could not care less
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:29 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:22 AM
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I feel like most women (within a reasonable age bracket and not disfigured/obese/generally hideous) go into two categories: "would fuck" and "want to fuck." Virtually any woman can get into the "would fuck" category, it's not that big of a compliment. I've had sex with women I had very little physical attraction to because they just threw themselves at me in a club and it was easier to just go along with it. Unless she's like an 11/10 supermodel, I personally need strong romantic attraction to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:22 AM
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Your title had me but your post kinda lost me. I personally think this is true more for women than men. One of the best red pills for me was learning how much young girls want to avoid deviating from the mean (within their social circle). As a guy who was always looking for relationships over hookups, the best advice I ever got was “look for a girl whose friends all have boyfriends but she doesn’t. If her friends are all single, she’ll never commit to you.” Obligatory “not all women,” but it’s p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:23 PM
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Trust me, I get it. We’d all pick the attractive one. I just think I’d want to stay with the attractive one and try and build something together (assuming our personalities matched) rather than get completely freaked out at any mention of commitment Btw, you wrote a couple of sentences in your first reply to me that showed you were actually trying to understand where I was coming from, and that bit of kindness was probably the best part of my day. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:01 AM
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Agreed, and I’m not even blaming women for acting selfishly because we all do that in our own way. I’ve just stopped believing in the “women want commitment” narrative because I think you can tell a lot about someone from what they choose when they have the most options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:59 PM
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If this is true, then why are young women so unbelievably commitment averse when their options are at their highest? Why do guys who prioritize commitment and relationships get cheated on with guys who are just after sex? Why do girls get so freaked out by a guy having a purely hypothetical conversation about eventually wanting kids with someone? I’m not trying to moralize, because anyone can do whatever they want with their lives. But I just don’t understand where this “women want commitment” s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:57 PM
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A couple months or more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:36 PM
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This is great. It reminds me of years ago when I used to be a fat guy. I tried a million different diets and workout programs and "extreme 90 days of discipline" things and nothing ever worked. The thing that eventually got me in shape was when I just decided to start practicing slightly healthier habits daily. I wasn't thinking about some extreme transformation, but that's what eventually happened. Not exactly groundbreaking advice, but it's the same principle. I'm gonna try your thing next.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/21 06:01 AM
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I think this is a good answer. FWIW, I can totally see where you're coming from. I just personally hadn't observed anything like it. In every social circle I've ever been in (I'm 23, work in a creative industry and live in a big city), 90% of the girls I come across seem completely repulsed by the idea of marriage or any kind of romance/dating milestones. Not even talking about a guy coming on too strong (I can understand that being a turnoff), but even a conversation among a group of platonic f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:25 PM
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IMO it all comes down to one thing: Make it clear that you're not having sex with anyone else during that time. You can tell him you're a virgin, or if you don't want to (or for the next guy lol), literally just say "and just so you know, I'm not having sex with anyone else right now either." Once the comparison factor goes away, I imagine any normal guy who genuinely likes you is gonna respect your reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:15 PM
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I must just come from a very committment-phobic/arrested development culture, I guess Just out of curiosity, do you mind sharing what culture that is? Of all the confusing things on PPD, nothing confuses me more than when I see people talking about girls pushing for commitment too soon/caring about romance/being clingy. My entire life has been the complete opposite (both in my own experiences and everyone I've observed). It's pretty much always that the girls are hesitant to commit, made uncomfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:11 PM
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That's what I see in movies and sitcoms lol but in real life I can probably count on one hand the number of young girls who particularly care about relationship milestones/romantic gestures etc. Sometimes I wonder where PPD people are meeting all these women who come on too strong about relationships because I think I've only seen it happen one time in any of my social circles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:45 AM
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One that I was seeing and one that I happen to be friends with from college. Could have been more precise and said "two," I guess, but I was never claiming to have consensus from the medical community lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:20 AM
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Hey congrats! I think the thing about city life is that it makes online dating way harder, but social circle game way easier. No matter how attractive you are, there's probably always gonna be someone with better OLD pics, and even if you get matches they're more likely to flake because there's so many opportunities. But there's enough people that you're bound to find a friend group if you just start going to events that interest you. I get that the whole "just go to MeetUps!" thing gets made fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:44 PM
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I appreciate all the comments, but this one makes the most sense to me. I honestly hadn't thought of that. Maybe because I'm still at an age (23, living in a big coastal city) where even suggesting to a girl that marriage is your eventual goal is an easy way to get dumped lol. But I can completely see where you're coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:03 PM
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The fictionalized versions of them they have in their heads
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:48 PM
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The TRP motto is literally "enjoy the decline." They're not trying to turn the clock back, they've accepted that it can't be turned back and are encouraging other men to do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:37 PM
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I’ve always thought that if I ever have a relationship that progresses to the point of living together, the ideal distribution would be “if you both agree it needs to get done, split the work 50/50. Otherwise, the person who wants it done has to either do it or specifically ask the other one for help.” That’s probably too logical to work in real life but I can’t think of a better system. Basically no partner should be expected to do something that they would be perfectly fine living without. I’d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:29 AM
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Haha it's a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:19 AM
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Okay but this is one area where we can't really blame women. If men are willing to do stuff for them all the time, why would they bother to start doing things for men? I'm not making a moral argument, I'm just literally asking what they would get out of it. I know how shitty it feels to be on the receiving end of it, to never get compliments or nice gestures from your friends or girlfriends no matter how hard you work. I know how much it sucks. But from an economic standpoint, it isn't anyone's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:15 AM
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I assumed your username was a Sons of Anarchy reference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:28 AM
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Try to keep her away from Jimmy O'Fallon
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:16 AM
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As a former romantic who still occasionally relapses, this was depressing as hell to read, but I think you're right. Probably the optimal strategy for the current market
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:42 AM
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I’m entering this phase of life and it’s just awesome Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:29 PM
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Not sure how you could possibly get that from my comment. Whatever’s going on in your life, I truly hope it gets better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:24 AM
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I actually think it's a good description of that one specific job. No one is saying that being her husband's cheerleader is her reason for existing. But every person has lots of roles they play (wife, parent, friend, employee, self-actualization, etc.) In the moments when someone is specifically thinking about how to be a good wife to her husband, "cheerleader" is a perfect way to describe the best approach. Make him feel loved/wanted/appreciated, ask him questions about his day, make him feel l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 01:51 AM
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WHAT people believe isn't nearly as important as WHY they believe it. Couldn't agree more. People who accept fully formed, overly simple narratives about how the world works (either Trumpers or people who take woke celebrities/MSNBC/NYT opinion page at face value) are extremely unattractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:10 PM
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The fact that female sexuality is supposedly contingent on feeling desired/pursued, but women will also lose attraction if she knows you like her. Either one of those would make perfect sense on its own, but together they seem like such a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:21 PM
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I think the reason it isn't discussed on here is because of the demographic this sub attracts. A lot of guys end up in these communities because they experience the worst version of this scenario. Ie they have female friends that they get genuinely close with, develop feelings that get stronger over time, then find out she not only wasn't interested in him but hooked up with some guy she had way less emotional connection immediately. Then they get into TRP and do everything they can to become li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:11 PM
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The dating scene is filled with selfish assholes with their hands open screaming “gimme” like a bunch of toddlers. Perfectly stated
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:34 PM
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And what if it was your body used up for sex and bearing children, no adult socialization I pretty much agree with you, but this argument is not gonna work on PPD men on reddit the way you want it to lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:16 PM
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I completely agree, except for the fact that any guy who has dated women will tell you that you get WAY more of the other, better stuff when she wants to fuck you. That's why they say the women's sexual desire/satisfaction is the ultimate predictor of happiness in a relationship. If your girlfriend or wife isn't sexually attracted to you, you're probably not getting many cuddles either. You're probably not getting as much of her free time as you otherwise would be, even for nonsexual activities.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:29 PM
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Well I'm never getting those 30 seconds back
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:40 PM
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Obviously the two genders communicate differently but you lost me when you got to the "women want men to be their best friend" part. No need for me to write some "women hate nice guys" copypasta but in my experience and that of pretty much every guy I know, women don't want a guy who matches their style of communication. The guy who listens empathetically and gives reassurance and makes her feel heard is not going to get laid the way the distant guy who tells her to just call her friends because…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:43 PM
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Best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:19 AM
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Yes and it's very different from the tradcon guys who post on here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:29 PM
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A man who actually follows Red Pill theory (lives for himself, treats women as disposable because he knows they'll treat him that way, doesn't seek external validation, etc.) is diametrically opposed to the kind of Red Pill Man who appears on these forums in 2021 complaining about how hard it is to find a wife for your fairytale romance (self-own, I know, but I'm trying to get better). I was jokingly predicting that the entire thread would be people dunking on TRP guys for "contradicting themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:56 AM
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Not OP's fault but I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict this thread will end up being useless because people will use two different, completely contradictory definitions of "Red Pill Man"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:35 AM
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Because TRP isn’t really aimed at guys who always dreamed of staying single and fucking tons of women. Its primary audience is guys who were romantics but got burned. That’s why they constantly need to be reminded not to fall in love with women. They have to be TOLD to want to spin plates. It’s a consolation prize for them because they’ve learned that what they really wanted just isn’t possible
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:33 PM
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You don't know how badly I needed to read this today. The harder I work, the more I self improve, the closer my physique and career get to being what I always wanted, the emptier life seems. And those suicidal thoughts get harder to fight off every day. I'm not gonna go on some long feelings rant, I just wanted to give you the sincerest possible "thank you." Fantastic post, brother.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/21 06:24 AM
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Build your social circle (extremely easy if you're a woman because you'll get invited to stuff all the time), make genuine friendships with guys, then promote them to boyfriend once you know you have a connection. If you have a real friendship (like, with actual shared interests and values) first, you know he wants you for more than just sex. IMO, 99.99% of the kind of guys you're looking for would love to date their female friends. Every relationship minded guy I've ever met would prefer to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:00 PM
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Nah my best friend is a lesbian and we're both single checkmate I destroyed you with logic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:54 PM
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This is incredible, thank you so much as always. Question: Do you have any experience with the mythical "make a girl orgasm from just spanking" that people sometimes talk about? I've gotten halfway decent at getting girls into subspace but I'm trying to find some moves to take it to the next level
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 05:18 AM
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I think the one thing this sub has given me is just a deep sense of how differently the two genders think about love/dating/relationships/sex. There are so many topics that seem so black and white to me as a man, and also seem so black and white to a lot of women on here, but in the complete opposite direction. And I usually think both "sides" make good arguments (good in the sense that they'd get a high score on a debate team, not that I agree with them). It just leaves me with this sense that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:45 PM
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There’s no “should” because it’s an amoral decision every couple has to make for themselves. If I was engaged to a girl who wanted my name, I’d be super into it. But if she didn’t want to, I don’t care nearly enough to expend energy on it. Other couples can do whatever they want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:03 PM
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A cute, intellectually curious brunette. Smart/informed but not very idealogical - she'd have to share my amused detachment from politics. Good sense of humor, although I don't care if she can make me laugh or just laughs at the same things I do. Outgoing enough to come on adventures with me, but able to enjoy a night in without needing constant stimulation. Her love languages would be physical touch and quality time. She'd be down to turn our phones off for an hour every night and just give eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:46 AM
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I watched Louis Theroux recap the other week and he talked about one episode with alzheimer's patients. One man did not remember he was married, he knew his wife only as a friend and he was seeing other women at his facility. She was there on his deathbed.I think of things like these and wonder if I could do that, really? These things are difficult and life is messy. It's easy to judge others when it's all hypotheticals and not you in the chair. That's such a complicated and interesting dilemma …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:28 AM
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I think anyone who treats this like a law of nature is an idiot (regardless of which gender they think ages better.) However, I think the good faith versions of the TRP argument are pretty much correct. Men have the potential to improve with age and hit their sexual peak much later. That's all it is. If he does everything right, it's technically possible for a 40 year old guy to get way more attention from women than he did at 22. And that's just not the case for women. As a man, if you stay in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 11:03 PM
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The differences in views between (online) men and (online) women are truly irreconcilable on this issue. There's nothing women can do to convince us this practice is cool, and there's nothing we'll be able to do to convince you to stop doing it. Which is fine. So I only have one thing to add to OP's question. If you're a woman, this might be a theoretical problem, but it shouldn't ever be a logistical one. You can probably eliminate any of these problems in any potential relationship by just lyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 08:27 PM
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Attracting the kinds of people you want to attract? The most underrated rule of dating is "figure out what your niche is, and focus on doing what that niche wants." A girl who genuinely wants something more traditional is going to want a guy who shares her values. I'm not saying it needs to be some religious 1950s household, but statistically there have to be a few women who still have a romantic streak. And I imagine they want to pair up with similar partners. There's definitely a niche of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:47 PM
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1000x yes, and I honestly cannot comprehend why someone wouldn't. Sure, it's impossible, but in this hypothetical why the fuck would you not try??? TRP has taught me not to expect a "soulmate," to assume every relationship will end, to look for internal fulfillment, and to prepare to live my life alone. And that's all fine. But keeping my eyes open for that one-in-a-million special someone is one of the only truly fun things in life. Without that, there'd probably be no reason for me to date or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:04 PM
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Are you me? I've been going clubbing a lot lately and it pretty much always ends with a 6 throwing herself at me and me taking her home just to get my stats up. It's not that fun lol. The only reason I do it is so that I'll seem experienced if I'm ever lucky enough to meet a girl who's legitimately relationship minded and wants to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:34 AM
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What do you mean by "satisfied" lol? That's the fucking dream. If I could somehow find that, you'd never see me on this subreddit again. (The window is already closed for me to be N=1, but since we're being hypothetical, I would gladly go back in time and erase every sexual counter I've ever had if it meant I could have my first time again with someone else inexperienced and learn everything together)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:04 AM
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If I genuinely thought she would be a fantastic mother, and I could tell that's what she truly wanted, I'd be super into it (provided she was physically attractive to me and had a good personality). The important thing would be that she was actively choosing to be a homemaker, not simply someone who was disinterested in getting a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:48 PM
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First of all, props for asking a legitimately interesting question that actually made me think. My stats: 1 - Male 2 - Fully remote but have to travel a lot 3 - Running outside daily, lifting weights at home daily and 1-2 yoga classes a week at my local studio 4 - Just moved to a new city so I don't really have a "friend group" that I see regularly. I'd say I have about 10 true friends, and another dozen good acquaintances that I check in with once a year or so. I never had much of a problem get…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:35 AM
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Honestly yeah. Not a ton, but that's one of the few female problems that I genuinely feel some sympathy for. I always think it's weird when TRP guys complain about girls not approaching. If we're supposed to want women to act feminine, I don't see why we get mad when they do lol. That said, your friend's problem could probably be solved by going to bars more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:55 PM
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I have no problems with casual flirting, but for things to progress beyond that, it requires her explicit consent. Agreed, but I think the point is that it doesn't progress beyond that, but then she goes home and the flaws in her current LTR start to become a little more visible and a little less tolerable, and she starts thinking about the new guy more and more, and THEN the branch swing eventually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 04:46 AM
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Explain your needs and how you want to have sex often because it reaffirms your attraction to eachother Yeah don't do this. Letting a girl know that you need sex as a form of validation is a great way to cut off her sexual attraction to you. If you need to have a talk about how you need more sex (this should be a last resort imo), frame it in terms of how badly you want her or how high your sex drive is. If things don't get better and it's truly intolerable for you, you're probably just not sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:32 PM
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Nah. I'm a guy and the competition is half the fun. I feel like life without pursuing girls would be boring as shit. Taylor Swift was right, I only want love if it's torture
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:57 PM
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The conditions our love is based on are easy to satisfy and mostly static and intrinsic to the person. The conditions for women's love are hard to satisfy, very contextually dependent (status and dominance for example) and many times extrinsic to the person. Exactly. I always say that both genders might desire an unattainable fantasy version of the opposite sex, but if men could theoretically find their perfect idealized girl, they'd genuinely be happy with her forever in pretty much every scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:54 PM
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Adding to this, I imagine that the ease of getting sex eliminates a lot of the need for sexual validation. So once you know that SOME people want to fuck you just ‘cuz, you feel less bad about paying for sex with the people you find the hottest. You see the same thing happen with rappers and athletes and the like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 08:14 PM
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Tried this a couple times back when I was bluepill. Always ended with me falling in love SUPER deeply and her losing interest. Once I prioritized dating people I immediately clicked with, my relationships got so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:46 PM
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It's a self-fulfilling prophecy where the good faith TRP users who actually benefit from the theory take what they need, apply it, then get off the subs and start enjoying their lives. The losers who don't just keep complaining online forever. So if you log onto one of those subs at any given time, the losers are gonna be over represented in the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:16 PM
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TRP was designed for reformed betas, to help guys who got their hearts broken understand how things really work. Guys who are genuinely sex positive hedonists don’t end up on those subs as often as you’d think. So a lot of TRPers view the lack of relationships/gender roles as a necessary evil they have to accept, not a genuinely great thing in and of itself. So, correctly or not, they place a lot of blame on those kinds of women for not fitting into the romantic fantasy world that they really wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:47 PM
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Every girl I've seriously dated or fallen in love with has been some attempt to work out my childhood crush on Rory Gilmore, and I don't see that pattern ending anytime soon
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 06:00 AM
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Solid advice from a Nobel Prize winner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehwEu8SBSo
/r/askTRP18/03/21 06:58 AM
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These kinds of guys aren't a monolith, so it's hard to make a blanket statement. If we're talking about fat unambitious losers who just complain from their mom's basement that instagram models aren't fucking them, you're totally right. The more intellectually consistent version of the argument, IMO, is that guys don't separate sexual attraction from friendship nearly as much as women do. I personally think that a large percentage of men, if they could attract any woman on the planet, would pick …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 06:26 PM
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A fellow man of taste
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:05 AM
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TRP doesn't say you SHOULD do anything. It gives a very specific type of guy the information he needs to increase the sexual attention he gets from women. If you're not looking to do that, or you're not that type of guy, there's really no reason to spend any of your life thinking about TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 06:38 AM
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Once it's not coming from a place of neediness, you can do pretty much whatever you want. If you're giving a girl (who's already attracted to you) comfort and affection, but it's literally just because you want to do it, not some fear of losing her or subconscious desire to be seen as a great boyfriend or covert contract where you want her to reciprocate, it usually isn't an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 02:02 AM
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Someone is giving you very bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 11:44 PM
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Yeah as a young guy this matches up with what I see anecdotally. Even when people are young and still have groups of friends, I’ve personally seen girls who get into relationships but don’t want life to change that much (still going out with the girls most weekends, etc.) and guys who feel hurt that their girlfriends don’t make enough time for them. Not saying that’s the majority of situations, but it happens often enough to make me skeptical of OP’s premise
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:01 PM
1

Read When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron. Thank me later.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 02:19 AM
28

Plate the mom, problem solved
/r/askTRP12/02/21 05:26 AM
7

If you think a guy cheating is okay if he "still loves his wife," ask yourself if you'd feel the same way if a woman says "it was just sex, I didn't have feelings for him!" If you said yes to one but no to the other, you might be a hypocrite. If you think both are okay, you're just a specific kind of person who should either avoid relationships or filter for like-minded people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 06:35 PM
12

I’d say it’s worse. I’m sure the alpha widow stuff happens, but I’ve seen a lot more guys who lose the “perfect girl” (usually someone who’s very pretty but not quite hot, so she seems like she can be just “yours,” and is outgoing and bubbly with just enough damage to make her seem like a damsel in distress) and still not be over her five years later, even if the relationship just lasted like six months
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 05:31 PM
2

He still won’t tell us if he fucked a teenager or a woman in her 60s Seems like he told you he fucked a woman in her 60s lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 10:24 PM
23

This right here is the move
/r/askTRP17/01/21 07:27 AM
5

When I'm already attracted to a girl, whatever hobbies she has end up seeming really attractive to me. Beyond that, I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 11:32 PM
5

I think we’re saying the same thing. I agree that men fetishize virginity. I just don’t agree with guys on here who say it’s a purely rational thing designed to ensure their offspring is their own or whatever. It’s a fetish based on centuries of cultural conditioning, not something they only came to after reading a bunch of statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:12 PM
1

Yeah, but I also wouldn't be remotely compatible with someone who doesn't feel that way. Health, fitness, and appearance are very important to me. So it wouldn't be a transaction where she owes me something. The relationship would just never have started to begin with if she wasn't also fit and planning to stay that way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:53 AM
3

Never change, PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:01 AM
4

These aren't my views, but when guys like that lament "the good old days," they're usually including the part about one mid-level job being enough to support a family. They're not saying they want to kill themselves working 100 hour weeks to make enough money to support a family in 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 10:52 PM
2

Not exactly like that, but among guys you'll hear basically the same thing with expanded criteria. Ie "Why won't she go out with me? I work out all the time/I've worked so hard to build a big career/I have cool hobbies etc." It's kinda the same thing, being upset about not having a girlfriend when you feel like you've done all the prerequisites
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:58 AM
1

This is like saying it’s time we fix Social Security to make it sustainable. It doesn’t matter how convincing your argument is, it’s never going to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:18 AM
2

Thank you for the extremely thoughtful response!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 08:21 AM
3

Could you give some examples of the kind of needs that men could be inadvertently neglecting that could lead to this? I like your comment but I'm having trouble visualizing specifics lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 04:42 AM
3

Thanks for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:12 PM
2

Just out of curiosity, how old are you/these girls you're talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:39 PM
4

Not OP but absolutely. That's why some guys turn to TRP in the first place. They get really invested in women and then feel burned when their fantasy of finding a perfect relationship with a girl who will obsess over him the way he obsesses over her is shattered. A lot of TRPers talk a big game online, but in many ways I think it's a coping mechanism. Source: am a TRP-adjacent guy with lots of TRP friends
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:02 PM
18

Purely anecdotal but most men I know like looking at women like that but prefer more “natural” looking partners. Certain things are fun to look at in highly sexual contexts without being literally attractive. It’s no different than women ogling muscular male strippers but being more attracted to leaner guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:01 AM
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As a guy, this is how I feel too. I truly can't fathom someone not being into the will-they-won't-they stuff. It's so much fun, and once it's done you can't really go back to it. Why would you ever skip that???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 06:21 PM
7

I consider myself pretty redpilled, but I never agreed with this one. Girls with well done tattoos that they clearly planned in advance are attractive as fuck. Maybe I'm biased because I'm also inked, but all these online "alphas" are free to reject these girls and send them my way any time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:20 AM
3

That's not gonna affect the dating market lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:32 AM
2

No but if he's loudly advertising the fact that he reads TRP by using the terminology, he doesn't have a real understanding of TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:41 PM
13

Any man who would use TRP terminology with a woman he's dating doesn't actually follow TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:12 PM
1

Yeah the whole "don't use social media" advice does more harm than good. Don't let it control your life, and if you have a very well-established social life there's probably no harm in deleting it, but otherwise there's no reason to remove yourself from the main way people judge status
/r/askTRP01/12/20 11:24 PM
13

Yeah, being the rock is more about not adding to her emotional problems, especially during stressful times. Don't be needy and become another chore she has to deal with. Sometimes it helps to think about the metaphor literally. She needs a rock that she can always grab onto when she falls. In good times when she doesn't need help/support, you don't have to do much (in this department) other than not be a whiny bitch lol
/r/askTRP01/12/20 05:44 AM
4

I wish I could upvote this twice. So many people online (men AND women!) don't seem to understand how much men ENJOY doing that stuff when they're emotionally invested. We eventually learn that it doesn't work and adjust accordingly, but it's not like we were doing it to be manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:06 PM
4

a man who wants someone more conservative is better served with taking the conservative route. I think you answered your own CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:58 PM
2

This is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 12:42 AM
6

I think the issue is that this sub (generally) attracts people who are unsuccessful in relationships, for obvious reasons. And it's kind of a chicken/egg thing, but those kinds of people are either so hurt and bitter that they can't participate in rational debates, or they were already incapable of nuanced conversation, leading them to be unsuccessful in relationships. I still think the sub's very entertaining (and occasionally informative, but that owes a big debt of gratitude to the Atlases of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:58 AM
6

Yeah the masculinity tokens thing is pretty much the only objectively good piece of data that this sub has ever produced
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 10:58 PM
6

Anything that suggests issues with delayed gratification. Not saving/investing any money, starting big projects and not finishing them, giving up on goals when they get hard, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 08:04 PM
2

If I was gonna bullshit, I'd make up something a little more believable than this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 09:29 PM
1

Yeah I was talking to a VERY liberal friend of mine and mentioned that, as much as I hate everything Steve Bannon stands for, I find him pretty likable. And she IMMEDIATELY says, “oh yeah, I hate myself for saying this, but I’d totally date him.” She’s closer to his age so it’s less weird than you think, but stories like that kinda prove your point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 06:12 PM
3

Settle down with a cute, artsy girl who indulges my adventurous side and is down to take a bunch of spontaneous trips with me, have 3 kids and laugh all the time, then basically run out the clock until we die.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:31 PM
11

I honestly don't think TRP's hangups about paying is about cheapness. If spending money on girls created genuine, lustful attraction, you'd hear them saying "major in finance" instead of "lift." The issue is that it makes the relationship feel transactional (among other things). Not paying is like the mirror image of FDS -- it filters out girls who are with you for the wrong reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 04:52 AM
2

Lmao that's great
/r/askTRP26/10/20 12:31 AM
11

Their paradox of a lot of men who frequent PPD and the like is that they themselves are not traditionally masculine but they want a woman who is traditionally feminine and who will treat them as if they are traditionally masculine even though they aren't. We could just pin this and then not have a subreddit anymore. It's the answer to almost every thread lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 11:52 PM
5

For sure, I'm definitely in the "lift for yourself" phase of fitness. If anything I care more about the mental benefits. I was just curious if other people's experiences happened to line up with mine.
/r/askTRP25/10/20 10:08 PM
2

Hey man, I agree with most of the advice here and don't have much to offer other than the most sincere "good luck" I can give. This shit's hard (I was a fat fuck who lost a ton of weight when I discovered TRP four years ago), but it is doable. And you'll never regret it. Feel free to DM me if you ever have problems/need someone to talk to about weight loss
/r/askTRP22/10/20 04:43 AM
8

I feel that "going from needy to too unavailable." I was the worst Nice Guy, but I went through the "discovering TRP>getting the dream girl>going back to your old tricks and losing her>getting HARD into TRP" cycle, and basically closed myself off to every female I met for over a year. Shit sucks lol
/r/askTRP19/10/20 05:04 AM
14

Found the guy who benches 135
/r/askTRP15/10/20 04:55 AM
23

Combine all of those and you’ve got a redditor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 11:22 PM
2

Rory Gilmore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 03:08 AM
5

I mean you're not wrong, but congrats on supporting the Communist Party of China
/r/askTRP28/09/20 05:56 AM
2

As a guy, that was depressing as hell to read but I can't find anything to disagree with LOL. Good video, good post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 07:54 PM
3

Definitely. You just gotta be comfortable with the fact that the relationship will probably end at some point, and not be living in fear of that. If you still have a sense of self that's separate from her, and believe you'd be able to find somebody else that's as good as her pretty quickly if things went south, it's doable
/r/askTRP19/09/20 06:48 PM
1

Jesus, I'm sorry about that, but this is a relationship out of which you must get. Best of luck in the next one, my friend
/r/askTRP17/09/20 04:21 PM
114

For me, the hardest non-women-related pill to swallow was that the vast majority of the world are basically losers. They just don't aim that high, and are genuinely content with very little. And that's just not the game we play on here. When you work harder and set bigger goals than other people, you're making yourself objectively better than them. And when people sense that someone's better, they try to drag them down to their level. Don't let them. Keep up the good work bro.
/r/askTRP16/09/20 05:34 AM
0

The short answer is no. Absolutely not. Bro, you have something that a lot of us really wanted, and we turned here because we were bitter that we couldn't find it. It's great to approach happy relationships from the perspective that they're finite, and that AWALT/entropy eventually gets to all of them, but don't worry about that until you stop enjoying it.
/r/askTRP08/09/20 11:25 PM
5

Lmao this is gonna go over SO well on this sub I'm here for it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 10:58 PM
3

It would signify that she's serious about building a legitimate relationship together, and when we did get to have sex it would presumably be a really intense bonding experience. I'm not some N-count fetishist who has a strict cutoff number, but this would be about as green of a flag as I could possibly find. It would tell me she's gonna be less likely to leave at the sight of a shiny object, and that she cares about making life milestones special. That stuff is all important to me, and would pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:43 PM
2

Hell yeah. If we had mutual physical attraction and compatible personalities, I would call this "hitting the jackpot"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:01 PM
3

Yeah it's one thing if you've been in a relationship for a long time and need to mix things up, but if you can't enjoy a date where the other person's personality is the main attraction, you just should not be dating that person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:41 PM
9

I'm the same as you. Very sympathetic to their situation, but not remotely attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:02 PM
7

Marrying a virgin is like winning the lottery. Fun to fantasize about, and I'm happy for people who get it, but you're a fucking moron if you plan your life around it or think it's a realistic goal. Saying you only want a virgin (if you're not religious) is like liquidizing all your assets to buy scratchers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:01 PM
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Jesus man, this describes my experiences almost to a T. You wrote that up beautifully and I appreciate you posting, but I'm so fucking sorry for what you had to go through. Hang in there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 03:09 AM
1

Lots of guys who end up on these sites get told some variation of "women care more about personality than looks" and then feel extremely bitter when they feel like their personality didn't get them anywhere with the opposite sex. It's a bad situation, but I'm not even sure it's anyone's fault. If anything, there's blame to go around. Because I don't actually think that's a false statement, if you're comparing women to men. Obviously women care about looks, but it's probably true that looks are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:59 PM
1

If you could help a brother out and DM it to me, I’d be extremely grateful to buy it too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:50 AM
0

With TRP, anything is "ok" as long as the man is genuinely getting what he wants. For example, the sidebar advises against LTRs but plenty of TRP contributors have them because it's what makes them happy, even though they know the risks. The worst case scenario, from our perspective, is when a naive guy doesn't know what he's getting into and thinks he has one thing (true love, etc.) when in reality he's getting screwed over. That's a long-winded introduction, but my point is that a lot of guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:37 PM
1

Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:11 AM
6

Then yes, I agree with you in theory, although you're probably not going to get a lot of guys on here to be reasonable enough to break from the standard talking points lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:36 AM
21

From a TRP perspective, I think you'd be completely correct as long as she treats her new man the same way she treated the "bad" one. Deep down, I don't think most RP men would care that much if their LTRs were with Chads before them, if they knew they were getting the same treatment. But that never seems to happen. TRP claims that women give alphas more sex and better sex, do spontaneous fun things with them, and have less expectations of them. Then when she "learns her lesson" suddenly sex bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 10:51 PM
10

This topic keeps coming up, and I honestly kinda blame TRP for giving betabux a confusing name. It doesn't have to literally mean she's with the guy for the money he spends on her. BB is a guy that she doesn't really want to fuck, but might be willing to if he does stuff for her. That could mean buying dinners/gifts/etc, or it could mean doing Instagramable "boyfriend" things or listening to her problems or whatever else. Basically, if he didn't offer some combination of comfort and resources, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:31 PM
5

Thanks for responding
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:03 PM
5

Did you like the 3rd boyfriend significantly more than the first two? (If you don’t mind an Internet stranger asking)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:55 PM
10

Because men want tingles just as badly as women, and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:43 PM
4

Please share this toothpaste story
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:38 AM
4

/Thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:05 AM
1

The nicest thing you can do is give someone what they want, not what you want to give. When I was starting out, I would have loved to be in a relationship where I'm constantly giving compliments/affection/romantic gestures and talking about feelings and it's just a massive 24/7 lovefest. But no woman is going to find that attractive forever. If you really love someone, the gift you give them is focusing on being someone that they can be attracted to. If occasionally withholding affection or runn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 12:53 AM
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It's all about how sexually attracted the girl is to the guy. In Red Pill terminology, BetaBucks is when you have to jump through more hoops to have sex than somebody more physically attractive. She doesn't WANT to have sex with you so much as she's willing to do so in exchange for something else. It makes plenty of sense when you think about it in the context of a subreddit devoted to men's sexual strategy. You can't really apply it in the other direction, because it's hard to imagine a high sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:53 AM
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BB doesn't have to literally mean money (they just needed something that rhymes with "fucks"). It means the girl is with you for the comfort that you provide, not sexual attraction to you. When you're 30, that comfort can mean money. But when you're 18 it can be the status of having a boyfriend. Someone to take her on dates that make great instagram photos (and hold the camera). Or listen to her problems and buy her gifts. Or just make sure she's not the only single one in her friend group. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:32 AM
11

Yeah, people who say stuff like this need to spend less time on the manosphere and meet some real people. A big reason the Red Pill exists is because a lot of us start out as romantics who fall in love too easily, then get burnt when we find out we can't have the relationships we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:50 PM
1

TIL there are MGTOW conventions... Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:07 PM
3

But 2/3 times...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:25 AM
10

"values his time" and "on this sub" are pretty hard to reconcile
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:06 PM
3

Read the book “Becoming a Man” by P.Carl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 10:16 PM
11

Might be an unpopular opinion here, but I say don't end it unless you're absolutely certain. You have something that's really hard to find, and once it's gone, it's gone forever. Six months from now, if the urge to sleep around is a lot stronger, then maybe consider it. But don't throw away something most of us would kill for just because you think there might be something better
/r/askTRP04/04/20 07:51 PM
2

Does anyone actually dispute this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:00 PM
1

To me, it's more about how political you are. I theoretically have no problem dating a Trump voter or a Bernie voter or anything in between as long as they're not shoving it down my throat. I just view politics as impersonal disagreements over bland policy proposals (not to say I don't vote or care or have strong opinions, I just view politics for what they are). I'm not gonna be a good match with someone who ties politics to morality and posts a bunch of memes on Facebook and builds their ident…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:00 PM
2

This is a great point, but it definitely works both ways. It can sometimes be equally painful to realize that you're one of the lucky ones, but thee person you love is just never going to be able to reach the level you're at
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:27 PM
2

Tried it once. Thought I met the absolutely perfect girl, but she had never had sex and seemed genuinely afraid of it (I actually believe her, because of some trauma in her past and some other behaviors of hers). She seemed like such a great match that it was worth the trade off. Long story short, I learned that if she actually liked me as much as I like her, she'd have wanted to have sex. Lost her, won't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:32 AM
7

Never. There's absolutely no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:07 PM
6

I lean red, since that sub taught me a lot of common sense stuff about women and attraction and generally gets the big stuff right. But I'm a young guy who just wants to get married and have kids, and has always wanted that, and just wants someone with the same views. But I'm also not some trad who thinks marriage is a woman giving you a constant supply of obedience and kinky sex and never saying a bad word about you. I understand (and use) the RP points about sex and don't want a deadbedroom, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:44 AM
0

"Your loss" is my go-to. Works best in person, while walking away. Just say it casually, like it's an afterthought, and it'll help maintain your frame for the next approach
/r/askTRP21/12/19 09:07 PM
1

The light switch effect just deals with loss of attraction. It doesn't mean you immediately loathe your partner, so the breakup can be amicable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:39 AM
3

Absolutely. The guy is giving you really solid advice. Ignore it if you want, but then you’ll learn it from experience soon enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 08:03 PM
53

I always like to use this story: A few years ago, I saw my 5-year-old niece at a Christmas party. I said hi, and she immediately said "Go change your shirt.' I asked her why and she said "Because I hate that one." I thought it was hilarious/adorable, and kept telling the story for weeks. Later, when I swallowed the pill, I realized that THAT is true frame. Because I'm an adult and she's a child, her opinion meant less than nothing to me. I thought it was genuinely adorable that she even voiced i…
/r/askTRP04/04/18 05:24 AM
2

Don’t. Texting plates you can’t fuck for three months is barely better than an LDR. Nothing good can come of it, you’ll just be wasting your time.
/r/askTRP31/03/18 05:04 PM
3

My point is that a woman's declaration of love is meaningless, because it's not a reflection on you. When a (beta) man says he's in love, it's because he thinks he's found the most incredible girl in the world. When a woman says she's in love, it's because she wants the feeling/public perception of loving someone. There is no use in trying to assign a higher meaning to your encounters with women. You're setting yourself up for a world of hurt and a lot of wasted time if you go down that rabbit h…
/r/askTRP31/03/18 01:58 AM
12

A girl tells a guy she's falling in love for HER benefit, not his. All women care about is not being bored. They chase a multitude of emotions. That honeymoon phase at the beginning of a relationship is her choosing to act that way because of how it makes HER feel inside. A month later she'll want to feel something different, and she'll be chasing a chad who will fuck and neglect her.
/r/askTRP30/03/18 11:59 PM
6

I'm currently working the night shift, but I'll take some in a few hours when I get off!
/r/seduction25/07/15 06:21 AM
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