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Why are you saying sorry when I didn't disagree with what you're saying? Although there's no evidence it's projecting based on your comments so far
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:26 PM
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Sure you could label that individual case as "afbb" (I had to look that up) but that doesn't mean it's a common phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:29 PM
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> Do men try to sleep with as many 9/10 women as possible before finally settling down with a lesser attractive woman because she will provide constant sexual access? No, I don't think that happens in any significant amount. If a man is able to marry a 9/10, he's very likely to do it unless there are obvious issue with her like seeming like she'd be a terrible mother. There's no guarantee at all that a 6 or 7/10 is going to provide "constant sexual access" or even that she'll be more emotionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:11 PM
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There are other drawbacks and potentially much less reward than anticipated which a therapist would bring to his attention if he said he was considering that option
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:07 PM
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Ok but it seems like you agree (from when you said "No, I did not say that." that people do give a shit about the interpersonal and sexual past of their potential partners. So if we agree that it matters and could impact honest dating prospects, then how is it just an excuse? Also I am not dating nor am I a virgin so why would I need to make excuses/avoid anything in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:44 PM
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ok so what is this about? People genuinely don’t give a shit until something impacts them directly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:36 PM
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So because you were personally unable to eat healthy to increase dating odds without developing a disorder, you now think that nobody can? Obviously it is not the best motivator in the world—but it is a motivator, and for an emotionally healthy person, does more good than bad on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:36 PM
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Realistic/healthy goals are better than unrealistic/unhealthy ones You are trying to tell me that this is not obvious in general, and cannot simply go without saying in a given comment?? This statement is equivalent to saying "healthy" is better than "unhealthy". Why in the world would I need to say that?? If I say "Studying is good for students"—do I really *have* to specify that you shouldn't study so much that you never sleep? If say "broccoli is good for you"—do I really have to say that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:34 PM
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oh nice comeback! very clever :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:26 PM
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Sorry, how/where did I do that? honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:05 PM
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How many times can I say "obviously" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:02 PM
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Yeah lots of people on diets starve themselves and do other unhealthy shit. that's not what we're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:01 PM
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Are you arguing that people "don't give a shit" about the interpersonal and sexual past of their potential partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:00 PM
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Unless you want to be honest with your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:57 PM
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Obviously self improvement for it's own sake is better; that doesn't mean that self improvement for dating is bad or useless. Again obviously doing something good can always be done in a bad way; that clearly doesn't mean that we should never try anything. It's like saying that you shouldn't pursue being healthy because you might develop an eating disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:55 PM
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What makes you suspect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:42 PM
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Ah, in that comment, you seem to be missing the word "pursuing"; the pursuit of ideals is a wonderful and positive thing (obviously one can pursue an ideal in an unhealthy way as with basically everything).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:42 PM
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Exposing the likely impacts of your actions is sociopathic? How interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:37 PM
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You missed a critical word in the comment you're referencing: "more"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:36 PM
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"To get experience" is even worse since it means that the man couldn't find any woman willing to have sex with him without paying her to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:34 PM
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Then why did you point out that those categories are binary??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:32 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:32 PM
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Most people are much more concerned about a guy paying a hooker vs +1 to their n count. Although, most people would definitely care if they knew you were specifically lying about their n count even just +1
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:26 PM
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True. So what? Does that render the improvement useless or bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:24 PM
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Ok...so you personally only recognize or react to categories which are...binary? If so...why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:22 PM
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Aren't what way, not able to become more lean/muscular/healthier by working out and eating better?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:18 PM
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And you're arbitrarily deciding that those are the only categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:12 PM
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If your n count is 100 and you say its 3, do you think that's a good way to start a serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:10 PM
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Beggars can't be choosers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:43 PM
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And do you realize that there can be categories within dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:38 PM
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So no answer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:37 PM
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You are saying nothing. All of life is about treating people differently; you are the one using the term "worse" and "justify" - I'm just acknowledging the reality of life. You treat colleagues one way, dating partners another, family another: nothing morally requiring justification about that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:09 PM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:04 PM
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That is a silly point That's like saying that "eating healthy is dangerous because you might eat 400 pounds of broccoli and choke to death" We were obviously not talking about steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:57 PM
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Hope you're joking Edit: He was not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:53 PM
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Why does acting with a little less interest/effort (ex. Shorter first date like coffee, or taking the bus with a date instead of an Uber) require justification?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:53 PM
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Many women will never date you if you're honest about having seen a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:51 PM
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Seems a little messed up to treat a woman you're not attracted to the same as a woman you're dying to fuck. wouldn't that be confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:50 PM
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Because I have different levels of interest (and different intentions) in different women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:49 PM
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Yes, an easy to handle/handy reward / sum of money - so nothing to do with a man's hands being attractive to women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:43 PM
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You didn't catch anything lol relax People can be interested in certain types of situations that only some people can speak to. Targeted curiosity does not equal "fishing"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:32 PM
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FYI the term "handsome" first was used to describe stuff you got ie. a "handsome reward" so I don't think it proves anything about hands (i assume you were joking though)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:23 PM
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6/10 is basic date planning for half the dates, nothing too fancy, slow texting, generally not very much thoughtfulness. Ironically in some ways it's made me more attractive since I'm less nervous and appear more confident. Coffee dates/ walks preferred 10/10 is thinking of a bunch of dates ahead of time and having them ready - mix of casual and fancy, spending more money (ex. if we're on a day trip, plenty of stops for treats, private water taxi instead of public ferry). Dinners, brunch, drinks…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:15 PM
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No. My effort and spending in dating was always at least a 6/10, but if I was really into the girl, it could be 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:03 PM
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If you keep failing at something over and over, you tend to start analyzing every little thing, and it's pretty rational to do so. It's like if you're trying to get pregnant; at first you just go for it, live a healthy lifestyle and keep a positive attitude, maybe casually read a fertility book. But after 12 months of trying, you start getting tests, eliminating tap water, aluminum foil, etc - you start to do whatever you can think of to increase your already low odds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:47 PM
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I think they do understand generally that their vibe is important to women, but it's not easy to control for a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:39 PM
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I don't see how pursuing a lean muscular body is "imperilling your well being"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:38 PM
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Dating for men (particularly online) is often a numbers game, and if you go several months with barely any matches/interest, then you'll do anything to increase your odds. It's not really relevant that 0.5% of girls might be a "feeder"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:36 PM
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good points lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:09 PM
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in that case there wouldnt be much of an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:13 PM
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each person has there own idea of what a clean house looks like. thats what i mean
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:10 PM
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You could similarly say that wealth is an abstract concept since it often doesn't represent physical objects in the world. Just because something is abstract doesn't mean it isn't a useful concept for describing cause and effect
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:22 PM
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I hope women continue to stay tf away from him for their own safety. 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:04 PM
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nobody did
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:04 PM
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Yeah I agree it's an insult to people with autism and generally it's not good to use "autism" in a derogatory way. I do think OP likely does have socialization issues in addition to everything else but probably not autism. As a guy who also delved into cynicism in the past, I hope he finds a way to heal and grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:51 PM
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Ever heard of projection, you horny fuck xD (I can tell since I am one as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:42 PM
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I think I summed up his comments pretty well here: OP: posts a question for women, a gender he doesn't begin to understand or sympathize with Women: gives direct answer OP: hurr durr maybe you're autistic???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:19 PM
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Maybe if you're really bad at picking partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:15 PM
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I mean yeah lol: > I don't believe women can, which is why I don't trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:14 PM
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I hear you, having a cool last name is critical xD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:50 PM
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Was it normal before it became illegal? It feels pretty paternalistic to me to make this into law (I'm also from Canada but not from that province)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:43 PM
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You're right. I sank to his level and used "autism" too loosely (but still probably more accurately than him)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:42 PM
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I would personally really dislike it if everyone in my family didn't share the same last name (but I fully recognize that this is a highly subjective and culturally influenced preference)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:39 PM
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Glad you quoted him so I can see that you're clearly making things up. He is very plainly stating that there is no logical/rational reason why being a misogynist = not getting laid. It is a logical statement as part of a discussion, not a moral defence of misogyny or bigotry. The fact that you have to invent things to get mad about is telling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:23 PM
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Ok so no answer...again, where did he say it's a good thing? give me the quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:17 PM
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Breaking news: being alone and only ever seeing your own mess is easier than being in a relationship/having a family and having to see other people's messes and work out compromises with your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:06 PM
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Where *exactly* did he say that it's "fine" to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:05 PM
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OK great, so your argument is that bigoted men *with no good qualities* have less dating success than poor/ugly etc. men *with good qualities*??? lol wow, how groundbreaking! Good qualities help with having sex? No way!!! If you hide your misogyny you know it's wrong and needs hiding, and lie about it, and trap women in abusive relationships So you literally admit that they can in fact get in relationships and get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:04 PM
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being a bigot to women is fine You made this up. He said that men can hide their bigotry and get laid, not that it is "fine". Why not just argue with yourself in front of your bathroom mirror, if you're going to make it all up in your head anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:50 PM
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do you think that's uncommon in relationships for either men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:48 PM
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lol, you honestly believe that misogynists have a harder time getting laid than unemployed disabled people? or poor ugly people? damn you don't know much about getting laid. Hint: it's very easy to hide misogyny over the course of multiple dates
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:44 PM
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No? Which part of "I ALWAYS CLEAN THE DISHES" feels unclear lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:43 PM
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Most people do suck at communicating, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't communicate AT ALL - more often they'd communicate it, but maybe by yelling or some other unhealthy way - or my dusting right in front of your face lol. If you're paying attention as a partner, you'd have some idea of the base level of clean she wants the house
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:29 PM
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this is why women are more represented in initiating divorce lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:28 PM
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if it was real pushback (ie. reliable evidence of any kind), I'd be happy to do so. If you truly think that anecdotes are a real form of pushback or argumentation (as opposed to emotional grandstanding) then you're too far gone for any rational discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:14 PM
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> cleaning the same things multiple times a day that are already clean This does not describe "a lot of women" unless you're saying like 1% of women = 200,000 across X country etc. If you're dating multiple women with obsessive tendencies, then there is likely an issue with how you're attracting/vetting women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:11 PM
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Individual anecdotes do not and cannot prove anything on a population level, especially because I don't have much info on those guys. Dating is a complex vetting system and women may be picking up on certain subtle factors that's keeping them away; nobody on the internet can tell you what's going on with your anecdotes. I can say at least that many guys who think they are "good guys" are actually not the most mature men that are ready for a serious relationship, even if they imagine themselves d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:09 PM
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I do hope you find a woman who keep her apartment messy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:03 PM
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Just as most women don't want to pester you to do your "fair share" of what should be shared household tasks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:53 PM
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Ah yes, anecdotes from your heavily biased social circle; the pinnacle of statistical truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:51 PM
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100%, having more friends would very likely benefit them. Most of the relationships I've been in, I found through social circles (although apps weren't too horrible either)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:51 PM
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Do basic realities make you suffer? If you really find my claim so insane, why don't you start by asking ChatGPT "can most men between 18-30 find a relationship within 1 year if they try?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:47 PM
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good thing most people can if their standards are realistic :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:44 PM
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Yeah I think you're right about most of the guy's complaining on this sub - but they're so far gone, so I prefer to talk to any lonely innocent guys who have some chance of establishing a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:43 PM
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Let's see the evidence for this wild claim <3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:38 PM
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Disagree. Being yourself may not give a guy the best chance of scoring a first or second date, but it *is* the best way to build a lasting relationship. And obviously, when people say to "be yourself", they mean to be a good version of yourself, not just how you would act on a random day when rotting in your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:31 PM
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Cleaning (the necessary stuff like dishes and toilets) and cooking (including planning meals, buying groceries and cooking) alone take up a huge amount of time, not to mention child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:48 PM
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Do you apply the same standard to yourself while in a relationship? You don't expect your wife to ever cook when you're hungry? Fuck you when you're horny? You do it all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:45 PM
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Says the guy who's still annoyed about his ex that literally had OCD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:44 PM
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In the vast majority of cases, I would guess that, but the time resentment has built up, there is a pretty decent understanding of what the "base for cleaning" is. And if a man (or woman) is comfortable in filth and willing to let their partner either pick up the slack or suffer, then he's not a very good partner (unless he communicated this in early dating which virtually nobody does)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:43 PM
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2 - is that correlation or causation though? Ex. is it true that people who already live more dangerous lives are the ones more likely to be getting guns?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:26 PM
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In before OPs predictable answer: "I know I asked you a question and you have me a direct answer (along with tons of other women), but.... you're a liar :)"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:12 PM
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posts a question for women, a gender he doesn't begin to understand or sympathize with Women: gives direct answer You: hurr durr maybe you're autistic???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:21 AM
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That makes no sense. And no man on earth would ever reject a woman that he considers a 10/10 just for such an abstract reason
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:16 AM
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Bro if I were you, I wouldn't be throwing stones from your autistic glass house
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:15 AM
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I'm glad I saw your comment first in this thread, because it seems like OPs plan is just to not believe any answers that don't conform to his pre-existing bias against women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:03 AM
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Why would a single woman want to resist the exact thing she's interested in? is this a riddle??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:02 AM
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You're describing internet fights, not real human relationships. THAT is your problem, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:56 PM
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> most women only understand complex emotional situations from their point of view and with the assumption that they're right This describes most *people*, not just women. If the man is also emotionally intelligent, he can actually communicate his point of view. And if he chose a partner well, then she is likely to try to understand and compromise, as is the basis of all healthy relationships. > if you express emotional intelligence on a concept they disagree with Can you give me an example of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:47 PM
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Oh ok I'd like to check that out, maybe I missed a notification - can you share again where you provided nuance? I might be misunderstanding which comment you're referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:48 PM
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I was replying to someone else and not sure what you're doing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:36 PM
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Naturally—is there any movement or ideology where critiquing some aspects would be unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:34 PM
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Men are learning new things, and knowledge can often be used both for positive and negative goals. You're focusing on the negative (attacking feminism) but there is obviously a clear positive usage for emotional intelligence and therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:58 PM
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No it means they want a man who can communicate and understand complex emotional situations tactfully as most women are able to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:54 PM
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Ah OK now I understand better, thanks for clarifying. I definitely agree that for most, stability > wealth, but it's fair to say that some degree of wealth is considered by most to be a part of how they judge stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:50 PM
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Ok I see - but do you really think there are so many women who value "the pursuit of wealth", as opposed to just wealth itself, and the stability/comfort it brings? Maybe I'm not understanding your terminology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:41 PM
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Money is a huge factor in stability
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:35 PM
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Sorry to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:17 AM
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Well done for being honest, at least here...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:17 AM
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When was the last time you changed your mind based on something you found while researching?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:15 AM
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If your response has no substance, why should my response have any?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:35 PM
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> Men are forced to subsiside women's sport Which specific men are spending their money, against their will, on women's sports? > I now have to suffer female commentators and pundits You are choosing to watch the content. When you do that, you're always signing up to accept editorial decisions of other people. Those people apparently think they can make more money by hiring those women instead of other men—as always you can change the channel. > Constant feminist lectures and having the money I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:21 PM
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No, I disagree with *you*
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:17 PM
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100%. it's like saying that Christianity ruins rock music just because Christian rock is shit. When in reality, the problem with Christian rock is mainly that the artists don't actually care about rock and are not talented on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:18 PM
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You're responding to an idea you made up in your head, not my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:18 PM
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Once you're in a relationship then sure, it's possible to build all expectations from scratch (but almost nobody does completely). But it's not possible to do that during a first second and third date
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:49 PM
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They were bad writers trying to make a good story and failing. The cause primarily wasn't their interest in DEI but their lack of understanding and respect for what made the original story great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:56 AM
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Sure they do buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:21 AM
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Cuz those are hobbies dominated by males. it's not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:06 AM
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How do we know that star wars was ruined due to women enjoying star wars? Isn't it more that a few really idiotic people with no understanding of star wars were suddenly in charge of it after Disney bought it? I mean the directors of the new ones were all men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:05 AM
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Guy who thinks he's smart also thinks modern academia is comparable to medieval theology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:59 AM
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Is that happening a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:48 AM
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I can't imagine why it would ever be a bad thing to have women also enjoy your hobby. More people enjoying your hobby in general is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:58 PM
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"Vetting" is a integral part of dating, but the way you're describing vetting with a "series of tests" is not the right way to go about vetting, so yes it's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:24 PM
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Got it so your source isn't your personal bias but rather a "shit load of academic body of work" which you haven't read, haven't linked and can't name. Much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:19 PM
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delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:36 PM
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It seems that she's experienced in social situations which logically would mean she's more likely to have better-than-average skills, but that's just a statistical assumption. I'm not sure why her social skills are really relevant tbh but maybe I lost the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:10 PM
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Sorry, what is your basis for saying she doesn't have your social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:00 PM
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I hear you though that wouldn't be relevant to a 30 year old woman dating who almost exclusively dates older guys
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:55 PM
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You're in med school. you're not the average guy, so average advice may not work for you. It's not exactly brain surgery to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:39 PM
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> repeating the same (harmful) pattern over and over I don't think this applies to someone who is actively dating and occasionally ends up on a date with a guy who doesn't ask questions. Especially if indeed there are many guys like that who are otherwise normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:45 PM
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I don't think most guys would consider dating advice from someone 30 years older, regardless of generation, except with a serious grain of salt. Like there is some wisdom in what older folks say about dating, but they have no idea about 80% of dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:29 PM
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> because she's super hot, she gets dates really easily so she never really had to think about what things were red flags and green flags Wouldn't that mean that she has even more need to filter guys, since she has so many options? I definitely agree that many people can make the same mistakes over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:21 PM
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I mean, she's 30+ with tons of dating experience. If it's possible to pre-select better, I imagine she'd have learned by now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:58 PM
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I mean, are there really so many people whose social skills are so bad that they can't think of a single question on an hour long date, even including the question "what about you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:56 PM
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I was watching a Twitch stream with a very attractive female streamer yesterday who was describing a date she went on just last week where this happened. Apparently even the hottest girls imaginable have to deal with this, which is extra crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:32 PM
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You are very clearly stating that the subjectivity of specific labels makes it so that "young men these days are so much more reluctant to approach women than in the past" ie. that subjective labelling makes dating difficult. Arguing that subjectivity is bad for dating is the logical equivalent of saying that objectivity is good for dating No straw manning, just basic logic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:27 PM
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Oh you want dating to be objective? Then try an A.I. chatbot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:54 PM
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So your source for sweeping sociological claims are personal anecdote and Reddit forums, got it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:44 PM
2

"that are more affected by biology than they would like to admit" - source for this when it comes to past sexual partners or whatever you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:43 PM
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Complete non sequitur. You can (and everyone does) constantly engage with societal norms and beliefs, with or without adopting them completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:07 PM
2

good point - women's every accomplishment can be tied to their body and sexualization in an instant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:32 PM
2

On a sociological level there is a legitimate discussion to be had about why short men don't do well, and that shouldn't piss anyone off to discuss and investigate. But yes, as I've said, an individual woman doesn't have to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:32 PM
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yeah that's why my first comment says that you never have to justify your preferences on an individual level
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:27 PM
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I guess if the guy is also a virgin for religious reasons, but i don't think that's the case that most guys are in. For a normal guy, I'm not sure why a girl having had sex with a few guys means she'd have a different lifestyle if they dated
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:18 PM
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oh my bad, that was a typo - it was supposed to be "women who are not fat"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:15 PM
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your comment is grammatically wrong so i dont know what you're trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:14 PM
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I agree with you but don't find that relevant to the argument that men are judged more harshly than women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:10 PM
1

Similar views sure, but that seems different from lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:09 PM
1

Which you seem unable to describe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:09 PM
1

Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:07 PM
0

What you're describing happens to fat men who date women a well (though yes, women might focus more on height which is a physical characteristic that you can't even improve) In fact, it happens to anyone who's in a relationship with someone that seems more physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:07 PM
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When did I say he was sexist?? I'm asking the guy to defend why having sex automatically = incompatible lifestyle, which appeared to be his claim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:04 PM
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So you have no idea what an example or a thought experiment is - that's ok. So (correct me if I'm wrong) you have no issue dating a woman who has had sex before even if you hadn't yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:03 PM
0

Yep it's called an example buddy, they are used in discussions from time to time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:57 PM
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What do you think is the "real reason"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:53 PM
4

How is there lifestyle incompatible just because they had boyfriends in university/ high school, if they're otherwise similar to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:53 PM
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I disagree: firstly, people in real life don't actually care if a man wants to date women who aren't fat. they just care if he's being an asshole about it (which is the same for men who get annoyed when a woman says "I only date 6 foot men) Secondly, society judges women very harshly as well but it manifests in different ways that you may not see. for example, a women may be easily labeled as a slut or a gold digger based on how she dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:51 PM
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You definitely don't owe anyone an explanation of your preferences on an individual level, but that doesn't mean that society isn't going to have justified issues with certain dating preferences. So on a date you don't have to defend it, but in a sociology classroom or an intellectual discussion, you might want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:38 PM
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There is PLENTY of content of men being angry about women (much here on Reddit and on Youtube. If you're not seeing it, it's only because 1. you're looking in the wrong place or 2. your algorithm doesn't show you that content or 3. you're seeing it but don't interpret it as angry
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:15 PM
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> men are more careful with insults they throw around No they're not... Women go very far out of their way to shit talk people *behind their back*, but are not known to insult people to their face more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:56 PM
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Updated version is much better. It's obviously not women who are the more openly racist gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:54 PM
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Intention matters. You wouldn't want a girl with no intention to fuck you pretend she might just to get you to buy her shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:53 PM
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Scenario #2 is just such an obvious post topic - everyone understands that fat women are less attractive, so the main response would be "ok, so what?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:52 PM
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I did a lot of online dating and not once was i asked any of these (my job was in my profile). If you're constantly seeing this, you're chasing the wrong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:47 PM
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