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OK, then that changes the debate from a semantic one to a moral one. If we go with that definition, then there's nothing wrong with entitlement. You're allowed to feel whatever you want, and what you do about it is what brings about moral judgment. The idea that it's wrong just to think your outcome should be better is, in my opinion, a little messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:54 PM
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Cuz he doesn't care about any of those women thus they get literally notbing from him. So, what else would you call it? Giving nothing to women is not the same as harassing them. Disliking the ways that women are different from men is not the same as discriminating against them. Declining to help women is not the same as harming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:57 AM
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See, this is the problem. A guy says that he's doing what OP suggested and not dating women, and you paint him as a harasser. How does a man actually achieve your indifference?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:42 AM
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Why is entitlement to another's body less legitimate than entitlement to another person's mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:13 AM
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Sex is not a need. The sex as a need argument is used to hide men’s contempt of women. They don’t want to talk to women, they don’t love women, they love what they can get from them. If you loved them you would not coerce and abuse them. Is talking about feelings a need in a relationship? Is sharing chores a need in a relationship? If not, then please describe a healthy relationship that has no sex, no communication, and no cooperation on the economics of life. If they are needs, then why is it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:21 PM
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When it was the government's job to fix the inequality between men and women in the workplace, the solution was to change the workplace. Now that it is (according to you) the government's job to fix the inequality between men and women in the social sphere, the solution is to change the men. Do you see the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:59 PM
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Why do there have to be macro level solutions? Why can't it just be that everyone gets to do their own thing, and there is no right or wrong outcome across the pattern of society?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:54 PM
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But I think it’s also obviously meant to mock Pride while suggesting that monogamy and heterosexuality are under threat the way LGBTQ lifestyles are under this administration. It’s an attempt to frame any expression of LGBTQ+ as a threat, and if this administration gets their way they will no doubt “punish” those threats. You're concerned about overt, political restriction of particular lifestyles. I'm concerned about covert and subtle restriction of particular lifestyles. If you'd like to trade…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:43 PM
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getting access to colleges, pushing into new jobs, lobbying congress for equal pay act and pregnancy protections. In other words, you argued and cried for access to spaces that you didn't have, and men had to give up those positions. Men who did give in were called allies. That's the same dynamic we want. We argue and cry for access in the social sphere. Women give up the upper hand. They get called allies and we get the credit for the movement. So much for those "males are natural leaders" hors…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:06 AM
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It is. And we do. Do you? Because I hear an awful lot of chatter about how men need to be allies and help women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:47 AM
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Yes, the burden is on men to fix men's problems. Then why isn't the burden on women to fix women's problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:31 AM
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Doesn't that mean there is an opening for men to come up with an alternative? You're still doing it, putting the burden of fixing men's problems on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:08 AM
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The other side of the coin is that men are never centered in the conversation. I saw a video yesterday where someone was pointing out that a man might need to look at 1000 dating profiles to actually get one date, and I thought they were going to talk about that as problematic, but then they said, "And this is driving men toward populist and right-wing influencers." So they were still treating men as the problem. The idea that those bottom 80% of men could be correct, that they might not need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:27 AM
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I'm not specifically against gay rights, but I tend not to support causes that I don't see benefits from. I might favor one side of a cause, but unless it affects me, I'm not going to donate money or be activist about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:55 AM
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That lets out some possibilities. Maybe the men do the jobs better, or maybe they're better at negotiating salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:47 AM
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Then why are both movements shocked when straights, men, and straight men don't support them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:13 AM
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Why can’t feminism just means that women have the the same rights and value as human beings as men. Because that's not as simple as you make it seem. It's one thing to say that women should have the same rights and value in the workplace as men, but if women tend toward different practices in the workplace, does that mean that the different practices need to be treated with the same value?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:11 AM
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The point of the gotcha isn't about black men, it's about exposing the hypocrisy of the women who would immediately choose the bear if the race of the man is unspecified, but would hem and haw if it were specifically said to be a black man. Because they have to make a virtue-signaling spot check instead of actually saying what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:52 PM
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Let's assume for a moment that everything you've said here is correct. Is there a benefit to men in having children? I mean, they're a financial burden which would apply to the man and if there's separation then either you have to continue the financial burden without the associated benefits or be labeled a deadbeat dad, which could have both legal and reputational consequence. But, all-in-all, do you think there's a benefit to men in having children? Because if your answer is yes, then there's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:00 AM
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But I'm not a normal human male. Why do I have to put on a false face?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:47 AM
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I meant another location like across the hall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:09 PM
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Really? I can go to a woman at a party and say, "I'm interested in seeing if we are romantically compatible. Let us repair to another location and discuss," and expect a positive response?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:01 PM
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The problem is, all of these places/events have other functions besides dating. Clubs are for dancing, parties are for having fun, festivals are for celebrating whatever the festival is about, and so on. It really feels like finding a romantic partner is meant to be like catching a frightened animal, where if you look at it directly it runs away but if you keep it in your peripheral vision, you might have a chance to catch it if you sneak up on it. I want to go to a venue where the modus operand…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:22 PM
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OK, you have a man who has social skills, nothing wrong with him, and goes around chatting up women, but none of them want to spend time with him. That system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:48 PM
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It makes it the system's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:31 PM
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OK, but sometimes it's not that person's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:45 PM
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Yeah, that makes sense. I'm just saying that it feels like you're saying that any guy with complaints about his sex life is betraying that it's his own fault, that it could never be anything else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:59 PM
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That's interesting. Do you think there are men who have social skills but also A) aren't getting sex and B) feel like complaining about it, but just aren't doing it here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:59 PM
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OK, but why does that not hold true for men? A world where a man could find mates with relative ease even if he isn't in relentless pursuit of bettering himself would be a better one in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:27 AM
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The single greatest sin of the feminist way of thinking, in my opinion, is its linguistic pragmatism. The feminist never says anything because they think it is true. They say things because they believe it will advance some aim of theirs. If saying something would give a weapon to an enemy, they do not say it. It's not dishonesty; there's no need to lie, even by omission. But it takes a masculine thinker to say something against the speaker's own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:39 AM
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Because the original poster's point was about the "women date felons" concept. So the topic had included women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:02 PM
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Then that would also apply when a woman can't find a man. It's not that there are no good men; she's just not sexy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:45 PM
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Why isn't it that awkward men should have good women, but those women aren't stepping up to do their part?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:20 AM
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But you're still pinning it on the man. When a woman can't find a good relationship, is it part of her personality that's flawed, or is it "Where have all the good men gone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:51 PM
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Why would a woman who is into vintage car restoration talk about their negative impact on the environment, and why would a woman who enjoys riding motorcycles get upset about how dangerous it is? They wouldn't. But a woman who isn't into those things, and who doesn't think that anyone else should be as well, might well show up in the spaces for those hobbies and say such things, possibly with an initial pretense of being an enthusiast so as to be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:48 AM
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For adult men a place to talk I've always said my dream was to have a dinner club like in the Black Widowers books (minus the mysteries). The seven men meet every month in the same restaurant, they talk intellectual subjects with bonhomie but also with passion, yet it remains a club where there are rules and votes and blackballs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:43 AM
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I think this dovetails with the "You're a fan? Name three songs" phenomenon. Like, if I as a man go into a space of devotees and I get challenged with that kind of question, my reaction is, A) Cool, a chance to show off how much I know, and B) Cool, a chance to find out something I don't know and maybe find a new part of the hobby to enjoy. The idea of ) "They need to stop gatekeeping and treat me exactly the same regardless of my level of expertise, experience, and devotion" doesn't show up on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:41 AM
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Just because it's not the way you think doesn't mean it's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:13 AM
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Imprecision of language is a feature, not a bug, of feminine thinking. “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’ ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’ ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.” Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:12 AM
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I just picked the username Reddit gave me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:51 PM
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Of course, the old IERHSCKICHTLFCCSO man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:35 PM
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For the men, if somebody you found unattractive approached you, you would hate to feel obligated to talk to them or entertain them. No, I honestly wouldn't. I'd be more inclined to say, here's where you're going wrong, let's try to fix those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:32 PM
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Is that so? Feminism holds that there are no natural differences in temperament between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:02 AM
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Which is fine but I do think that’s something you need to be able to give yourself. And I think that it's something that women owe men. They owe it to men in the same sense that men owe women to leave them alone even when they haven't explicitly said they want to be left alone but they've clearly indicated it. Like if you truly approached someone courteously and were treated discourteously, you need to be able to reassure yourself that you’re okay. That it was them not you, because you treated t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:01 AM
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Feminism has grown to address the needs of the modern era, including dismantling harmful gender norms. First issue I have here. No, we don't need to dismantle gender norms, and what constitutes harm is up for discussion. I have no problem with a gender norm like pants-are-for-boys-skirts-are-for-girls, because even if there's a minority of boys who want to wear skirts, there are a vast majority who want some kind of clothing identifier that divides men and women. If there's a man who wants to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:56 PM
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And that's part of the problem. There are some capacities in which men are the same, and if a man deviates from the norm, we pull him back in or ostracize him entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:48 PM
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What we want is a set of rules for which a good portion of women will say, "If you follow these rules and are rejected with discourtesy, it wasn't your fault; it was hers. She's a bitch and you're a good man, and you should not change anything in your approach going forward, and you should not suffer negative consequences for having done so already. We sympathize with you because we recognize the difficulty you have in dating."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:45 PM
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Do you want honesty or do you want to complain about what it is we want?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:01 PM
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My honesty is that I want the bare minimum from my partner and I don't want to give more than the bare minimum to her. That's honest, but it goes against what most women are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:33 PM
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I wonder if Tyler would have that kind of sex appeal without the money and fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:39 AM
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My problem is that the first time I saw him was as the brown-nosing asshole in Mannequin, and I still haven't been able to see him as anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:48 PM
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Is physical attraction a prerequisite for sexual attraction, or are they completely separate? Can you see a guy who you would say physically unattractive, but you have a desire to engage sexually with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:46 PM
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I'm just comparing the two people. The beater gets further than the boring guy, and that's not right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:34 PM
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Yes, but overall it seems to be less of a disqualifier than being boring is, and that doesn't seem right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:32 PM
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OK, would you agree that beating up your partner should be a disqualifier?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:29 PM
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But would you agree then that being evil should also be a disqualifier?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:25 PM
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"Which of 'evil' or 'boring' is considered worse by women?" is a question with a black or white answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:37 AM
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If your alternatives are boring, evil, or no one, boring seems like the least bad choice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:48 PM
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I think that if men had to choose between a boring women and an asshole, they'd choose the boring woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:06 PM
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My point being, I think just about anyone would agree that being boring is less immoral than being evil. But, in the area of finding an SO, being boring is punished worse than being evil. And that doesn't seem right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:51 PM
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But not overall. And how are boring men doing in your social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:25 PM
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Yes, but it's not a disqualifier, which it seems like it should be. On the other hand, being boring does seem to be a disqualifier, which it seems like it should not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:29 PM
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No, they prevented them from participating in the men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:22 PM
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for doing stuff That's the point. Women get praise and attention for existing. And not just from men for selfish reasons. Women will cheer other women for achieving something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:19 PM
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It would be better for our social cohesion if women treated men as though they have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:59 PM
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Why should men have let women into the workplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:27 PM
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What needs to happen is that women need to start treating men like they have value even if they're not useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:48 PM
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And I’m just assuming you meant sex with everything else because you didn’t deny it. I thought the, "No," would constitute a denial, but if you want me to be very clear, I will formally deny that I mean sex. I mean making men feel valued and wanted and respected as independent human beings and not just as means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:40 PM
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No, when I say companionship I mean loneliness abatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:04 PM
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Did men prevent women from forming their own economies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:10 AM
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OK, so why doesn't that apply to women denying companionship to men? If we're all born in a state of tabula rasa, then why don't we blame women for appropriating social power because of the matriarchy? It should be the same standard either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:44 AM
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No they're not. Men gaining the power to bar or allow people to work and own property was because of a natural advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:34 AM
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By all the men? If so, then that's natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:20 AM
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Then please explain to me why the problem of women not being self-sufficient had to be fixed by men allowing them into the workplace. I don't understand why, when I have a natural advantage, that's somehow unfair, but when I have a natural disadvantage, that's my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:30 AM
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That's a feature, not a bug. Call it Schrodinger's Pickup: if a woman is attracted to a guy and he doesn't initiate, he was probably a creep. If she's attracted and he does, he's one of the good men. If she's not attracted but he initiates, he's definitely a creep. And if she's not attracted and he doesn't initiate, then she doesn't think of him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:49 PM
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Can you guarantee no men will become weird once a female praise them for his accomplishments but want nothing to do with him romantically? No. Can you guarantee that no woman will be unemployed if sexism in hiring is outlawed? Even if you can't, it's still worth doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:15 AM
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Yes, but women themselves won't do it. They won't support society doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:14 AM
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--- Congratulatins if you've paid a bill today and didn't commit a crime. I can sense how difficult that is for you. I detect sarcasm. That's fine, you don't have to do what I'm suggesting. But then don't complain when men feel excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:14 AM
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That’s what friends are for No, that's what women's friends are for. In the feminine view of friendship, one friend boosting another is free. In the masculine view, to praise another is to confess yourself unworthy. It would do just as much damage as it gave aid. how is society or even the government is supposed to give these men the external validation they want? The same way society gives anyone validation. Look at how we do so with military and veterans. We say, "Thank you for your service" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:54 AM
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Exactly, a holistic evaluation of the man as OP suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:49 AM
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And to say “oh but that doesn’t guarantee intimacy and cuddles!” Well then the previous solution and forcing women to be with men they don’t want don’t guarantee that either. No, but I think it reveals something about the men. Sex workers and porn will fulfill the sexual urge, but not the ego boost that comes from it. And that's what I think the real solution has to be. Society needs to boost the egos of men who make an effort and live up to certain standards, even if that means not necessarily …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:27 AM
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I think that men are less holistic in general. They're more forgiving of negative traits in a woman than the reverse. A man will date a shrew if she can cook. He'll date an ugly woman if she comforts him. He'll date a gold digger if the sex is good. But a woman wants a man who ticks all the boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:18 AM
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about the guys they’re attracted to But what causes that attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:16 AM
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In your example, Neo Nazis, we go by the mission of the group. (White supremacy=racists) You're running on that assumption because YOU say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 11:12 AM
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Who says so? The feminists? That only proves they're willing to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:59 AM
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Then why won't you agree that all feminists are female supremacists?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 10:55 AM
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Would you say that about any other movement? If someone complained about Neo-Nazis being racist, would you assume that it wasn't all Neo-Nazis, just ones that the poster had encountered?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:00 AM
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If that's the case, then what's being discussed is not a nominal truth. Contrapositively, if it is true, then logical conclusions drawn from it are valid. That is to say, if men come on here or other forums and ask women for dating advice, and the advice they get is, tendentiously, more geared toward advancing the interests of women then of the men asking, it's not unreasonable to conclude that the women giving the advice are being duplicitous. Even if that means accepting that women are wrong f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:24 AM
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Too often, toxic and dehumanizing just means "in the interests of men." the way you frame and talk about things does matter. I think that's a dirty-pool way to discuss the subject. If the facts align with your position, you argue using the facts. If the facts don't align with your position, you argue about the tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:51 PM
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OP's point is, or could be phrased as, a conditional if as well. If you want men to be emotionally open, don't complain about having to labor when they do. Or, as OP said, if you don't want to do the emotional labor, don't complain when the man doesn't want to have emotional discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:24 AM
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Why do people insist on asking "y'all" Because we're faced with the reverse so often. Including in this thread. "People angry at the term 'emotional labor' have never cared for people" is a y'all statement. "It's the responsibility of good men to police the bad ones" is a y'all statement. "If you're asking why a nice guy like you can't find a woman, you're not really nice" is a y'all statement. If women can set descriptive rules for men, then what's good for the gander is good for the goose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:49 AM
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No, but the question is why men never share their feelings. And if they do, say, to a therapist, the therapist is more likely to imply that it's something the man needs to change if he's upset. With a woman it's more likely to be accepted as venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:39 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with you. What a lot of men want, as far as I can tell, is to be able to say, OK, I did what was required of me. I should either have what I want, or at least I should be able to feel hard-done-by. If the standard is to be hot, then a man should be able to put work into his physical attractiveness and get results. If the standard is to be moral, a man should be able to do good deeds and get results. If the standard is to have an interesting personality, a man should be able …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:10 PM
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My answer is, there is no difference. Because if there is, then a whole lot of women who "just want to vent," need to be told that they're whining. The implication of what you're saying is that it's not about the tone, but the content. A man expressing his feelings is whining, because he wants things he's not entitled to, as a child does; but a women expressing her feelings is not whining, because what she wants is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:59 PM
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Can we quote you the next time there's a "Why don't men share their feelings?" thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:53 PM
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Feminism at it's most basic level is just the belief in equality between men and women. This is why most feminists are going to assume that anyone who advocates against feminism is in support of men having power over women (economically, socially, political, etc) OK, and I think that asking for political equality makes sense. Asking for economic equality doesn't. If you don't earn as much, you shouldn't get as much. Social equality doesn't make sense to me either, because I should get to choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:27 AM
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I'm hearing a lot about what feminism isn't, but not a lot about what it is. Because, again, if you restrict it to what it is, then people might argue against it successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:28 AM
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You misapprehend me. Yes, it's possible for either partner not to be carrying their share of the load (which may not necessarily be a problem; the more able and hard-working partner may accept their role to give more for the sake of the partnership), but I'm talking specifically about time balance. Case in point is myself. I live alone and work in the evenings. I like to do my food shopping Friday morning before work, meal prep and kitchen cleaning on Sunday, and all the other weekly chores Mond…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:16 AM
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What is the context in your comment about "what men should do?" In general. That is, I'd phrase the question to a feminist as, "What does a man need to do such that you, from the feminist perspective, would say he does not need to make changes to his behavior?" To dive deeper, if he touches women without permission, we could both agree that he does need to make changes. And, at the extreme, even if he's not going out and being Batman, stopping all the sexual assaults he can, he's might still be …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:51 PM
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I didn't mention dating. But therein lies the point. Stopping date rape is a good goal, but to make it the only goal at the expense of others is not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:41 PM
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Work as hard as you want, just dont take your burnt out bad mood on your wife/partner. The issue comes when a man works extra hard during the week so he can take off the weekend. Or earns as much as he can so he can have a leisurely retirement. I have one uncle who's stayed on driving a bus--which wasn't even his career--because when he did try to retire his wife had him doing so much stuff around the house that he couldn't enjoy himself. But I support equal balance. I dont think the world works…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:38 PM
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Im so curious why the men in here specifically think feminism is somehow bad I think that feminism is bad because it promotes the idea that femininity is generally better than masculinity. Not even that women are better than men, but that, for example, a more equal balance among people is preferable to more hierarchical structures. Or that work-life balance is superior to "work hard, play hard." Or that for young people in school, students seated in a classroom paying attention is the ideal over…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:30 PM
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Well, this is why it's difficult arguing with feminists. If feminists actually made definite propositions about what they think men should do, then we could argue with them, and if we disproved them, then feminists would have to accept not getting that. Instead, feminism makes more vague claims so that we can't properly put the propositions to the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:25 PM
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Yes, but in terms of interests and personality, I think women are happier with similarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:42 PM
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If the issue we were talking about were the gender pay gap, we wouldn't just expect the women to change the dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:36 PM
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I agree and I’m not sure how American men can change that culture in a way that makes them feel comfortable and thus willing. Why is it men's responsibility to change the culture? For every other inequity, it's everyone's responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:30 PM
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I'm curious - why do you think men don't build those relationships with friends? Just a guess, but I think that women are more likely to want companions who are similar to them, while men are more likely to want companions who are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:29 PM
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I'd like to see things like "boy boss!" and "The future is male!" on T-shirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:30 PM
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Yes, but I think it goes deeper than that. It's that you shouldn't be seeking consent to cover your ass; you should be seeking consent because you genuinely care more about the other person's pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:06 AM
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That kinda feels like a "Do you like me? Check yes or no" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:02 AM
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Underlying that view is the idea that dating and romance shouldn't be something extraordinary. Unless you're extremely deficient in some factor involving social interaction, you should be able to find some measure of dating success. It's like how almost all people will, at some point in their life, have a job. Yes, there are a few people with physical or mental ailments that make it impossible for them to do productive work, but since work is such an integral part of life, if you can do it, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:20 PM
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Yes, and the flip side of that is "men are valued for what they do, not what they are." Men don't hold the same standards of women. A woman who doesn't actively do evil acts is a good woman. Good women may not deserve relationships, but they do deserve opportunity, fairness, societal respect, and a strong probability of life success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:52 AM
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That's funny, because I always hear how friendships among women are about real sharing while friendships among men are shallow and they don't actually talk about serious issues. Which would seem to counter this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:09 AM
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The use of it is that it feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:13 PM
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You cannot claim as a problem not being about to use another person for your benefit. OK, but then I don't have to act for anyone else's benefit. If we're going to establish a code of individuality and libertarianism, I'm fine with that, but we need to be consistent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:38 PM
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Why? What makes wanting to get laid something that isn't worth caring about, but, I don't know, wanting a fulfilling relationship is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:29 PM
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In the same way that a man can say that he understands what women go through in fearing for their safety, but one man's understanding doesn't fix the problem, it's nice to hear that women understand, but it doesn't solve the problem. Still, if women refuse to even empathize, it's evidence that they're really not caring about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:24 PM
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Part of the problem is that when men do complain about it, they're treated in a way that implies that it's their fault, or at least their responsibility. When a man feels bad about something in his life, he's told to change. When a woman feels bad about something in her life, she's told that she deserves sympathy for what others have done to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:34 PM
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Because the rest of men still had a chance. Like people ask, "Why don't the 4's hook up with the 4's?" and it used to be that they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:30 PM
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No, but there have been previous times where it's been less viable to be antisocial, so they would have been forced into situations where they'd have to interact with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:28 PM
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The problem I have with this is, suppose that I own a company and I say that I'm canceling (i.e., firing or not hiring or not promoting, etc.) anyone who says anything that promotes racial equality or LGBTQ rights. And then I can't get any minority or LGBTQ people there to work, and I get dinged by the equal employment people. It's not fair to give the power of cancelation to only one side of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:33 PM
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OK, so a man is entitled to express resentment to friends. You seem to want to avoid the word entitlement because of the connotation and tone, but that's the very reason I want to use it. No, I'm not wisely and considerately expressing resentment to my friends...I'm doing so because I'm fucking entitled to it, and when some asshole hurts me, then that's going to be my way of throwing it back in their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:23 PM
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What exactly are you disagreeing with? I asked at the beginning: Are they [men] entitled, if denied those things, to express feelings of resentment? You said no, men are entitled to nothing. But now you say that a man should be entitled to disengage from someone who isn't mutually considerate. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:12 PM
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But I presume that one isn’t all that decent of a person if they need hella incentive to not be a terrible or cruel person. I wouldn't say that basic respect and decency qualify as "hella incentive." But people do require some incentive to make choices. The punishment for being an asshole is less decent people wanting to associate with you. Maybe it's time for decent people to stop associating with women when they act like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:02 PM
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This is true, but as people we tend to think in story tropes. That's not a movie thing, it goes back to when we were telling oral stories around a campfire. One place I see this is in abusive relationships. The victim realizes that they're in an abusive relationship, takes the steps to get themselves out of it, and then expects to have some grand scene of confrontation where the abuser's crimes are laid bare, the abuser comes to terms with their evil, the victim's suffering is validated, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:00 PM
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The question I have is, what are men entitled to? Particularly if they're nice or act in the interests of women. Are they entitled to respect? Are they entitled to a thank you? Are they entitled to equal treatment as women would get? Are they entitled to feel good about themselves? Are they entitled, if denied those things, to express feelings of resentment? In short, what's something that a good man deserves that a bad man doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:56 PM
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Are you not fine with women who don't date and trash men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:59 AM
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So okay, tall muscular and blue eyed guys are more attractive right? But I never found Paul Newman that attractive. Robert Redford? Wow. Brad Pitt. Not really. I don’t like his face. And never liked De’Caprio. Well, some people aren't attracted to tall, muscular, and blue-eyed guys. that's fine. And if you're attraction to people is a crap shoot, that's fine. But mine isn't. If a woman fits my preferences, I'm attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:58 AM
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Maybe, but I think there are significant numbers of people who think of it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:17 AM
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It's not a choice, but it is a set of parameters. If I say that I'm attracted to the women who laugh at my jokes, have straight hair, have a geeky hobby, etc., and you draw the Venn diagram of all such women until you have the conjunction at the center, then I'm attracted to every woman in that center set. I don't need to actually meet them to "feel it" or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:51 PM
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We should be meaner to anyone that refuses to work on or acknowledge personality defects. And we should be careful about where our standards are with that. Being introverted is not a personality defect. Having an ego is not a personality defect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:47 PM
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I think that we need to be kinder to men who choose to stay out of relationships for that reason. If a man says that he's avoiding women, we should call him a boyboss or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:40 PM
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Maybe, but it's frustrating when your position is, "If you meet standard x, I'm attracted to you," but when you ask what you can do to be attractive, you're basically told that it's a crapshoot. Put it this way: if someone is attracted to me, I'd like to ask them, "Which parts of me don't affect that? What could I have worked on less and still have you be attracted to me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:36 PM
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"If the other side didn't get to make their arguments, then our side would work" isn't the flex that people think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:50 PM
10

In Japan, women make chocolates for men for Valentine’s Day. And they have White Day on March 14 where men are supposed to give white chocolate to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:48 PM
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Well, the best thing would be to marry the father, and don't have sex with anyone you wouldn't be willing to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:40 AM
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The last big movie of 2024 was about taking an allegorical witch and explaining how she was really a misunderstood and complex character. We can't begin using archetypes to teach young people until we get back to the idea that some characters, and indeed some people, aren't well-rounded human beings. They're just flat stereotypes who need to be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:16 PM
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I do. But others don't. And at that meta level, I think that people should agree that feelings are OK. If they don't, then I'm going to go tit for tat and treat their feelings the same way they treat mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:44 PM
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Just like some women are only attracted to men for their money and actually find them sexually repulsive. They are allowed to feel that way AND when they share those feelings with men, those men are allowed to feel offended. No, I don't feel that I have the right to feel offended. I think that what people think and feel is close to sacred.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:40 PM
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Why are you giving the opinions of strangers you evidentially disdain that power? Because I want to be able to say what I think, and if someone else has an opinion about that, I don't need to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:36 PM
1

OK, so that calls the question: what could I do to make you feel bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:27 PM
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By women who talk about the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:26 PM
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An attraction based on only physical factors is lust, and it's not surprising that people find this less meaningful than a more spiritual bond based on an emotional connection. Then don't be surprised if I turn around and shame you (general you) for your emotional connections, since I prefer the physical. But, I think the best thing would be to reconcile and admit that any type of connection is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:08 PM
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Supporting it is enough. Hell, being indifferent to it is enough. Even beyond that, simply regarding it as an intellectual curiosity as opposed to a mortal sin would be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:07 PM
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Sure. But the fact remains that if I say that I'm attracted to someone purely on a physical basis and if I don't apologize for working on that basis instead of caring about them as a person, I'm shamed for that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:06 PM
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Yeah, she really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:41 PM
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Stop shaming men for their sexuality. If I'm attracted to someone on a purely physical level, stop treating that as somehow inferior to being attracted to someone on a social or intellectual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:56 PM
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This is how it comes across: "You should raise your standards." OK. I'm only going to talk to women who are physically attractive. "No, I mean--" And I'm going to be interested in women who accept differing roles in the relationship "That's not--" And I'll only date women who make me feel good about myself. "No! I mean that you should start dating girl bosses!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:22 PM
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Never compare them to other men. Unless it's to say how much better they are than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:42 AM
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Yes, but the difference that I see is, a man will at least try to give advice that he thinks will do the best for the man he's trying to advise. A woman will give advice that she thinks is best for everyone involved: the man, the women he's going to ask out, and herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:57 AM
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Why is it creepy for a man to want to regain the upper hand in relationships, any more so than that it's creepy for women to want the upper hand that they've already gained?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:46 AM
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I haven’t seen confident women struggle to get partners, tbh. Yes, but they struggle to get partners that they're happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:45 AM
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Correct. Men want the traditional relationship, where there's a division of duties with each party having the power over their sphere of influence. The breadwinner gets to decide what to do with the money and where to live. The homemaker gets to decide what the environment of the home is like, and what to have for dinner each night. Modern women seem to think this is a problem, and that everyone has to do everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:42 PM
1

But why won't you transact with it? If we had something that you needed, we wouldn't withhold it, we'd make a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:59 AM
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Yeah, I'm 5'5" and fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:19 AM
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I have a college degree, no debt, and a funded retirement plan. I can't find a date to save my life. Tell it to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:41 AM
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There are subreddits where users ask for dick pics. I've never done this, but if I was desperate for validation, I'd message them. Which subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:34 AM
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Men compartmentalize, women generalize. In relationships, men tend to want beauty and sexiness and friendship and domestic partnership and a financial partner...but each of those are separate sliders, and if she's deficient in one, the others make up for it. Women by contrast don't think of each thing they want from a man, they just want the total collective quality of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:33 PM
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Change the educational curriculum to convince women that, while they're not obligated to date people who ask, it's incredibly rude not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:28 PM
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When you commit to a marriage, you're making a promise that you'll care more about the marriage as a collective than your own interests. It's a contract that says that even if the other person gets more out of this arrangement than I do, I'm OK with that. For you to renege on that deal is wrong. A lot of the problem is that we don't view marriage that way today. We view it as an agreement to partner up so long as doing so is better for both parties. Usually it is, but I think that the traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:07 PM
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You absolutely did I did not. Yeah, again, that is directly pivoting the post from what it says into what you want to argue about There are no "shoulds" when it comes to dating That's your opinion, not an objective fact. I think that there are shoulds in dating, and I also think that asking about good men is the same argument as asking about shoulds. As someone who isn't her, how and why am I in a position to tell her she "shouldn't" have dated and married him because my hypothetical opinion is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:03 PM
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A shallow person cant comprehend people who want something deeper. A POS cant comprehend people who are altruistic. A desperate thirsty person cant comprehend people who have self respect. A person that doesn’t believe of self improvement cant comprehend people who actually want to find themselves. But you think that the people named second in each sentence can comprehend the people named first?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:42 PM
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How can you reasonably turn a post about "women, how do you define a good man" somehow in to a post of "women, why should good men date you?" I didn't. I did equate "a good man" with "a man you should date," which I don't think is unreasonable. You responded that you're looking for a man who's good for you, and I'm asking why a good man in general would be good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:37 PM
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What are you talking about? Dating isn't a matter of "should," it's a matter of want. No, it isn't. That's the difference here. OP asked what makes a man a good man, i.e., if he should have a girlfriend or not. You're not even willing to entertain the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:25 PM
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It's not necessarily mutually exclusive, but it can be. You're looking for a guy who's good for you, but what if he's just looking for a good woman? Why should he then choose you and not some other good woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:54 PM
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The problem is, a guy who is good for you means that you don't have to be good for him. You can just be good for a lot of guys and pick the one who is good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:22 PM
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It does seem like women prefer men to be frustrated in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:19 AM
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No institution can tell you what you as an individual are doing wrong. Which is fine, but where does one go to get individualized analysis to see what you're doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:50 PM
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The only right-wing subs are ones that are specifically right-wing. If it's a general sub like news or politics, it's left-wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:46 PM
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I've never liked the "don't punch down" idea. Sometimes people who are down need to be put even further down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:25 PM
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This is an allegation of cheating. Right, so if you're innocent, you shouldn't mind the allegation. Or else, all allegations against an innocent party should be met with resentment, which would include women checking on their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:47 PM
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So men who do trust their wives should have to get a paternity test in order to help the women who are not trusted by their wives? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:44 PM
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Board games, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:34 AM
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it’s zero investment. Not for me. I have to put effort into what to say and how to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:22 AM
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It's not a matter of being broken hearted. It's a matter of, am I out here to chase girls, or am I out here to relax and have a good time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:57 PM
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If it isn’t returned, enjoy hanging out with your friend. This is a very feminine thing to say. It might seem easy to you to change on a dime from "I'm looking for romance" to "I'm hanging out with friends" mentally, but for me that's a big shift. I'm more likely to want to say, "If it isn't returned, let me go try it on someone else, so that I can stay in flirting/romance mode."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:46 PM
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One of the reasons that Peterson's message resonates with young men is that he doesn't frame it as, "Serve society because it's your role to do so." Instead he conveys, "Work to become strong for yourself. Incidentally you'll serve society." He doesn't say to seek out women because you have to; he says to seek them out because it's a great adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:21 PM
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Just to have people say to you, "Yes, you've done everything you need to in order to attract someone. If you're not dating, it's not your fault, it's everyone else's. You're a good person. Don't change."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:25 AM
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Theoretically you can effectively lobby a corporation to pay its employees more or to treat customers better. Yes, but not because they're convinced that the employees deserve more pay, but because they're convinced doing so will be better for business.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:12 AM
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Maybe, but it would it be nice if you could argue your way to success somewhere. Like, if I could prove that I'm being underpaid at work, someone would just come along and give me more money. Or if I could prove that a company I'm dealing with is providing insufficient customer service, they'd start doing business properly. In other words, I don't want to convince people to choose to do what I want. I want to obligate people to do what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:28 AM
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while most women are trying to be attractive to me Why are women trying to be attractive to men (I assume that was a typo and most women aren't trying to be attractive to MistyMaisel) if they're not attracted to most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:25 AM
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No, because when someone asks about women and they interpret the question to include young girls, we need a catchall term to cover both girls and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:23 PM
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Yeah, the question is when have women treated you badly, not kids, And now you know why men use the word "female" when talking about these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:34 PM
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Capitalism vs. socialism, the value of Western civilization, individualism or collectivism, that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:31 PM
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OK, do you mow your own lawn? Plenty of people do, but plenty of people hire landscapers. It's a matter of choice. You're not a bad person for hiring a landscaper. Or a house-cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:30 PM
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What could I not talk to a progressive about? Basically I think any position that said or implied that just holding right-wing opinions was morally wrong and that I had an obligation to think as they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:02 PM
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Do you grow your own food? Sew your own clothes? People look after each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:59 AM
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There are some things that people think are worth spending money on. Those same things, other people do happily to save money. Case in point: I refuse to care how much I spend on HVAC. If I'm cold in the winter, I turn up the heat. If I'm warm or if it's too humid in the summer, I blast the air conditioner. I don't care if my bills double versus the autumn or the spring. I pay willingly because it's worth it to me. Other people will tell you to put on a sweater and a coat before you even think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:19 AM
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And as a right-leaning man I'd be hard-pressed to be with a woman who's progressive on some important issues that I feel strongly about. But, I could talk politics with just about anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:15 AM
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Yes, but some people will reach a point where they want to be able to speak truth just so that they can anchor themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:16 PM
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Yeah, they have to be preached to to lie. Women do it by instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:07 PM
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Yeah, I don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:33 PM
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This is why dating is so frustrating for me. I would be terrible at sales. I know I would be terrible at sales. I've never worked at sales. I don't even like to job hunt because that's sales. Yet, I'm successful in work because I know how to actually work and think and come up with ideas and get things done. I've never understood why people like me are supposed to learn salesmanship, but people who are good salespeople but terrible at actually working to produce the product aren't expected to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:02 PM
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Not as I see it. Men will be honest about some things, even if it works against them, just to have the truth put out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:59 PM
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I don't see why not. Specifically, I don't see why I can't just indicate availability and let other people decide if I'm worth trying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:33 AM
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Is that what we’re calling being a misogynistic jackass now? r/NiceGuys and incels forums show why thats the case. Women: "Why can't men express their feelings?" Also women: "A man who expresses frustration about being single is a Nice Guy and an incel."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:07 PM
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Yes, but why? Why doesn't anyone make actual reality TV, where they don't know the outcome ahead of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:25 PM
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I think this is because misogyny is sharp and narrow: a sexual assault, a woman being fired for not sleeping with the boss, women not getting high-paid positions. Misandry is wide and shallow. Men being constantly rejected. Men taught that they're unimportant. Men denied emotional outlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:26 PM
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I imagine most men have no idea who Andrew Tate is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:52 AM
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Yes. But with his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:09 PM
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I want to start asking women this: If your man decided to do his share of the housework by using his earnings to hire professionals to do the cleaning and landscaping and repair work while he just lazed around, would you be OK with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:05 PM
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Maybe, but I'd rather see the problem solved by giving men the external validation they need than by "training" them to not need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:08 PM
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It depends on the man and the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:42 AM
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So the standard “I am attracted to him and we are compatible” is too high of an expectation? It's too vague of an expectation, and too grounded in the woman's experience. It's based on an assumption that attraction is fundamentally subjective with a few objective boundaries (no one's attracted to someone who stinks, or who kills people, for example), and that therefore attraction is less a scale than than it is an open space, and that someone who changes themselves will be more attractive to som…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:31 PM
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Women want equal partners. Men want servants and masters in roughly equal proportions. There are times when a man wants his woman companion to take charge, lead, and where he'll follow along. There are other times when he wants to be in charge and for the woman to follow along. Women tend to argue that both of those are wrong. The latter is power and control, and the former is "making her do all the mental labor" or some such.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:08 PM
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I’ve seen many dudes want women they have nothing in common with just because she’s attractive. Yes, or they want a woman who's very nice and gentle without caring about her looks. But women seem to only want men who have both a level of attractiveness and a good personality. It has to be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:42 PM
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But I want yes-men to come and agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:00 AM
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Yes, but that's not sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:36 AM
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See, that's the problem with modern online communication. It used to be that everyone had their own webpage or blog and they were free to post anything they want, and if you disagreed you had to do so politely enough for the speaker to approve. Or go post your rebuttal on your own page.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:24 AM
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Amend the question: if people can't come onto social media and vent without the venting being judged, but just given sympathy, where can they?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:15 AM
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I'm upvoting you just for saying "concentrated effort" and not "concerted effort."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:04 AM
4

But also, I work out because I like it. I mean, OK, you do you, but I hate working out and dressing well. So if I'm going to do it, it's only for a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:03 AM
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I think what's frustrating is that men are always advised to listen, but that women don't have to actively listen to men if they want to talk about their passions, unless those passions are what women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:16 PM
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How can I as an American get in on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:56 PM
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Yep. Because dating is a social activity. Dating is a social activity, but a relationship isn't. A relationship is where you can finally relax and be yourself with the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:47 PM
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For men who are "held back" by a lack of status or physical conformity, social skills are their ONLY option. Yes, but what's frustrating is that if you do have status and/or physical conformity, lack of social skills can still hold you back. Like, if you're a rich and hot guy, but you never talk to women, you still won't have success with women. And that doesn't seem fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:25 PM
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In fact, without good social skills, status and wealth are difficult to acquire, as humans are social animals and success in most employment and business requires... good social skills. But, acquisition of wealth and status depends on more than social skills. If you're very intelligent and/or very hard-working, you can command a higher salary than someone who isn't. Yes, you still need the social skills to get hired, but once you are you don't have to continue to prove yourself. Additionally, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:34 AM
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Right, but if men are able to hold out from dating women who don't follow that lifestyle, then women's choice is reduced to following it or going without men. The choice of living as a modern, feminist woman but still having men around won't be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:19 PM
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Not yet. But they - and the men who agree with them - have never stopped trying to take us back, and I'm not sure if you've noticed but they've made some pretty significant progress in removing those "choices" that you're bafflingly confident are sacrosanct. If women have enough social, political, and economic power, they can keep their choices. But, if men start collectively saying that they won't date women unless they subscribe to the Tradwife view, then there's nothing women can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:18 PM
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Because we used to be able to depend on friends, family, and significant others for emotional support, but now everyone is saying, "I'm not your therapist!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:54 PM
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For a lot of men it isn't really their appearance, but a lack of social skills or social circle. Going out more, getting more sociable hobbies, getting more friends who could introduce you to other people, learning to approach and flirt would help them more than just trying to earn more or to get some mass. The problem with this is A) it's less objective. You can see when you're losing weight. How do you know when you're better at building social skills? B) it's bringing about a fundamental chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:47 AM
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*fewer men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:32 AM
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It might not be fair but that's the society we live in. OK, so how do we change society? Or make different societies? Because I'd like to live in one where everyone was expected to be honest all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:45 PM
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Recognizing when someone doesn't want to be talking to you is social skills 101. Just because it's simple doesn't mean it's easy. I think that being direct about what you want is also social skills 101, but we don't demand that, do we?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:14 PM
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The biggest thing I notice when I see a "creepy" guy hitting on a woman is him not recognizing that she's uncomfortable. She's giving zero signals, usually actively avoiding eye contact, giving one word answers, looking at her friends with a "help me" face, etc. Maybe, but I think that expecting someone to recognize that is really not fair. It's a way to gain a conversational advantage. What I mean is, when someone gives those signals, it's not even that they want the other person to say, "I'm s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:03 PM
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What I mean is, I've never heard him say that god actually made the world by supernatural action, or that he made Adam and Eve as real people. He treats the bible more symbolically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:09 PM
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FYI to women, I as a man would definitely take the opposite trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:45 AM
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Peterson's value is that, through psychology, he's making the case that you can retain the morality of religion without needing to buy into the biology or physics. Which isn't such a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:41 AM
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Not when they win.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:05 PM
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Sure. And we'd rather feel that it's a competition, something to be won.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:46 AM
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Not to women. It can be to men. Having sex with a man can imply that he's being chosen over other men, which means that he is a good and quality man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:37 PM
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The moment they see the right man, they move mountains for them to appear available to their desired man. Maybe, but I think it goes beyond that. For virtually every woman, "appearing available" constitutes still having an out if he's going to take advantage of that availability. In other words, if their desired man knows that he is desired, and he says, "Great, you're attracted to me, let's have sex, then I've got to go," then he becomes less desired. Women never accept sex from a man as someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:35 AM
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A nitpick here, but it's "masturbate." "Masturbate" comes from the Latin roots "mas," meaning hand, and "turbare," meaning thrust, while "master" also comes from Latin, but the root there is "magister," meaning a chief.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:18 PM
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So the question is, how do men who have a personality that leads them to be unsuccessful with women change their level of success without changing their personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:18 PM
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black pilled pasta Now I want to eat squid-ink pasta.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:17 PM
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These incel types always have the same thing in common, they never fucking go out. They also never take the advice of joining a group, club, volunteering, etc, which would improve their social skills and therefore dating prospects. I think you're missing OP's point. The people who do those things don't do them for the reason of improving social skills. They do them because they want to do them. And that actually does improve their social skills, which it wouldn't for the challenged dater. Think …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:14 PM
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I don't like to argue with people who don't want to themselves, but I do enjoy it as much or more than "pleasant conversation." That's fine, however.. How do you expect to meet someone while at home most of the time? I don't know, but I do think someone should find a way to hook up all the stay-at-home guys with all the stay-at-home girls, getting over the trust barrier without actually having to go on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:24 PM
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And I for one am quite a heretic and infidel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:02 PM
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It's reasonable to expect people to do things that have an objective improvement on their lives, i.e., to get a good job, to be hygienic, to practice skills. It's not reasonable to expect people to "improve their personality" if that just means to be more useful to others. I'm introverted, prefer staying home, like to argue, and have odd sexual kinks. I don't see those as personality flaws that need to be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:01 PM
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I'm many, many years from high school. Where are the middle-aged ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:02 PM
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It gets the job done for men too, but men who masturbate regularly can be desperate for sex with women, while the opposite doesn't seem to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:52 PM
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But, if we're going to support the claim that men and women want sex equally, there would have to be a few women who really want sex to counter those who don't. I don't think there's much evidence of such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:46 PM
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Safety needs are on the base level of the needs hierarchy. Relational needs are higher up. To try to equalize them like "if you want to feel safe, I should get to feel loved" isn't an equivalent. The problem with this is that it's collectivist thinking which screws over the individual, and they may not put up with it. I care more about my own relational needs than I do about others' safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:11 AM
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I think it's a little more complicated than that; I think I might generalize it to something like: men don't require their partner to have specific personality attributes so long as they get what it is they're looking for in the relationship. My question is, why is that a deal-breaker? From my perspective, it should be an incentive. I'm asking less of you. Case in point: I've seen plenty of women who say, "If we're on a date and he's mean to the waitstaff, it's a red flag and I'm no longer attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:41 AM
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One of the best things you could do as a woman is to say, "Men, it's OK if you don't like that women chose the bear. Being upset doesn't mean you're the reason women chose the bear. If anything, it probably means that you're just as upset at the bad men who cause women to be afraid as we are. Let's join together to make things better for both sexes."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:05 PM
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Except the apps aren't working if they have to change business models and/or are losing business.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:48 PM
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How would that look like, the helping people actually getting dates? I'm not an app programmer nor do I run companies that run apps, so I can't give an accurate answer. But, it might be that it allows unlimited conversation and is supported by ads. Or it might be that the company does research on which practices lead to people finding long-term relationships and leaving the app, and then promoting those practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:32 PM
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Right, and if a dating app didn't adopt that business model, but instead went with something like: actually get our customers in good relationships. they'll be happy and recommend our service to others. we'll get more customers, making it easier to match people. the network effect will increase eventually people in these relationships will have children we'll get the children as customers profit They could capture more market share.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:44 AM
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Dating apps in general are failing. Maybe if they started helping people actually get dates and find relationships and not grubbing for money, they'd succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:18 AM
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Because income is essential to survival, which is why an employer isn't allowed to discriminate based on such information. Employers also aren't allowed to discriminate on things like bonuses, even though those aren't necessary for survival. Anti-discrimination laws aren't based in need; they're based in a power dynamic. In the dating world, there's a power dynamic between women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:57 PM
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I tend to agree. Men are useless on network television. Who watches network television?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:23 PM
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The whole point of the agreement is that you promise to support a person who might do those things, because you also might fall into some bad state like that, and you want someone to support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:43 PM
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The question is, why are they doing that to you instead of sacrificing with you to make both your lives better? Which is a question that should be asked in open communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:58 AM
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The point is people should enthusiastically want to stay. Otherwise, there is no reason to and its nothing more than tyranny There are reasons to stay. One is that the other person is depending on your commitment, and they gave their own effort and resources based on it lasting a lifetime. If they aren't really committed, then they've perpetuated a fraud on the other person. Another is that, while at the moment they may find a better life without their partner, but if the only option is to maint…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:55 AM
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Not everyone believes that suffering now will bring you closer to god, but the ones who do hate to see anyone living life to it's fullest. I don't see it as living your life to the fullest. I think that making sacrifices is the path to the best possible life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:45 AM
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1) If someone's wants to leave the relationship, there's something wrong with it ,so there's "fault" No, there isn't. Or, the fault is with that person for wanting to leave. 2) No people shouldn't be forced to mend relationships they want to get out from. Yes, they should. That's what they're committing to when they get married. They're entering into a lifelong relationship that they are dedicating to preserving over their own interests. If they don't want to do that, they shouldn't get married …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:44 AM
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Maybe not, but a lot of men think women owe them something, and it's caused so many problems for them that I don't blame women for their response. The problem is, this cuts both ways. If women want to claim that they don't owe men anything, not the time of day or the base level of respect, then that's fine. But then men don't owe that to women either. Men aren't obligated to be allies to women, or to support their grievances against sexual harassment, or to ignore them when they go out in public…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:21 PM
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my question is more "why should I expend any energy to change her position on this?" Because that position redounds to our interactions with people on a day to day basis. If a good portion of women have the position that any encounter she has with a man becomes a survival situation, they're likely to take adverse action against the men, and to see it as justified. There's no reason not to lie to a man, not to take from a man, or not to get a man in legal trouble, since he's worse than a bear in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:50 AM
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Did you mean thirty minutes ago? Men all over PPD defend their right to harrass, hassle, leer at, follow, and gawk at women. Leering and gawking at women isn't the same as sexual crime and stalking. What you're saying is that men seeing women as objects of sexual desire should, in your view, be just as bad as actually following through on those desires. And that's the argument we need to have, because I think that it's my absolute right to feel any way I want about another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:45 AM
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We need to fund the Bear Patrol, just like they did in the Simpsons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:39 AM
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Why would I need to challenge her on this? Because it's completely ignoring the probability aspect. Like, in 2022 there were about 133,000 forcible rapes in the US. Even by the conservative estimate that every one was committed by a different man, that means that more than 999 out of 1000 men didn't commit rape. But the question isn't phrased as, "would you rather face a high probability that, if you meet the bear, you'll get eaten, or the low probability that, if you meet the man, you'll be rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:37 AM
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I think men need more formalized and structured relationships. Like, if we differentiated male friendships, where on one level it's, "Each of us agrees to help out the others with life needs like going shopping when they're sick or a roadside pickup when the car breaks down," and on another level it's, "We agree to be each other's amateur therapist, where we confess feelings to each other and keep them secret and maybe give advice" and on yet another level it's, "We just hang out and do things, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:15 PM
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Nobody thinks that the assholes being assholes are good. I think that assholes being assholes is good. If anything, we need programs to improve the lives of assholes. Not by making them less assholes, but by making it more acceptable to be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:07 PM
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If someone doesn't date you because there is a trait about you that they don't like, it doesn't matter what it is - you SHOULDN'T WANT to date that person. So there are no invalid reasons to want to not date someone, but there are invalid reasons to want to date someone. Does that seem fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:13 PM
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That just changes the standard of what attractive is. I'm socially inept and I'm not handsome, but once you get to know me you'd like me. What do I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:11 PM
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I would also argue that the shame women are conditioned to feel around sexuality artificially lowers our sex drive overall. So you don't have any "forbidden fruit" effect? I think for me, knowing that I'm doing something I'm expected to be ashamed of makes me more into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:38 PM
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“Say what you mean,” “code switching,” “Dog whistling” all hold significant weight because American society discourages open discourse on anything deemed not “politically correct” And social media has made this a thousand times worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:01 AM
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It's also about external validation. Men want someone to tell them that they're doing all right and have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:59 PM
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Yes, but it amounts to "Go and be extroverted." I want to stay introverted and find a nice introverted woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:32 PM
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go skateboard, camping, garden, make art, make music, bake, volunteer, join a runners club, rock climb, play coed sports, So...do things I don't enjoy. (I do like baking, but that's a stay-at-home hobby too)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:33 PM
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Do you really think like that? Do you have some checklist and then just mechanicaly calculate the best? Are you really that ice cold logical machines? You don't fall in love, you don't feel it? No, but we are compartmentalized. The sexual attraction and the romantic attraction and how well we would do living together and the finances and the family relations and how we'd be treated by society all matter...but they all matter as things in and of themselves, not as a collected mélange that make up…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:04 PM
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OK, but that raises the question, what does get them wet for you? Not something you do that's tailored to the individual woman, but in general. Because I can tell you a lot of things a woman can do that will make many men attracted to her, and then she can pick the one(s) she wants. But no one can, apparently, tell men what to do for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:30 AM
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I also think a major problem with dating advice is that most of the dating advise is not aimed at helping men get relationships or hookups or whatever. It's specifically designed to prevent women from having bad experiences. Beyond that, it's as though women who give dating advice can't conceive of the advice being aimed at helping men. I think it's a fundamental divide in how men and women tend to use language, where women use it to advance their values and men use it to try to describe things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:22 AM
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desiring equal rights or to not be seen as subservient or as an object or trophy while also desiring masculinity is not hypocritical Would it be hypocritical if a masculine man wanted a trad woman who's faithful and defers to him as the head of the household, but also brings in an income? If not, OK, fine, but then in both cases we're talking about people with high standards who may have a difficult time finding a partner. But if that is hypocrisy while the woman's position isn't... Feminists, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:49 AM
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I've never understood that. If you have a quality, there shouldn't be anything wrong with bragging about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:57 AM
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It's a big question: will the companies that make the AI humanoid girlfriends just build them, sell them, and then let the relationships bloom such that the customer is happy; or will they maintain access to the AI such that they can tantalize the customer for additional money while never actually satisfied. Given the track record of tech companies, I'm not sanguine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:28 AM
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It cuts deeper. There are often cases where men want to avoid the drudgery of some particular work, and women seem to not understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:08 PM
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Man here. The toilet I clean often. Every day or so. The others, not so much. I don't see what the problem is with dirt on a rug, or dust on a table.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:06 PM
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He's not masculine He eats nothing but meat. That's got to count for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:59 PM
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Honestly, that's who I thought of first too. He stuck to his principles, even when it was difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:04 AM
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Any Tate? What about Larry Tate, Darrin's boss on Bewitched?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:03 AM
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What’s really weird is when middle age men act like insecure overly defensive kids protecting their dating preferences from the mean ol’ internet people. No, that really isn't weird. What men are craving more than anything these days is systematic, societal approval. Don't make us declare that we're right and defend it; tell us what to do to be able to demand that others call us right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:44 PM
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Because we're all different, you are not gonna get an answer that fits everyone. Unfortunately men want that answer. Again, it's not even an answer, it's justification. It's like, women who choose to dress provocatively know they're going to get called out by men in the "She was asking for it" vein. But, they know that they weren't asking for it, that the men are wrong. What can men do where if they're criticized by women, that the women are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:10 AM
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Different people can have different opinions, but there are some opinions that they're not credibly allowed to have. As men, we want to know how to avoid women holding credible negative opinions of us. When can we defend our preferences and practices, versus having to examine them to see if we're hurting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:37 AM
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Let me start with a metaphor. Suppose that I prefer Coke to Pepsi. If someone else buys Pepsi, I won't decline to drink it, but when I'm out shopping I'll always buy Coke even if Pepsi's on sale. Now, some people might say that that's stupid, and that they taste so much the same that I should buy whichever one is cheaper. And people who work for Pepsi probably don't like that I do that. Yes, people would think different things about it. But, by and large if enough people started calling me out f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:51 AM
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Society operates under the notion that only powerful people can do wrong things. This is the heart of the problem, and what we have to fight. Sometimes powerless people deserve to be powerless. Sometimes they deserve to be brought even lower than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:59 AM
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What about people who aren't nice to others? What about people who are, quite frankly, assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:03 PM
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A woman who provides for her man's needs and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:18 AM
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They can take the video, and I can dislike watching it. OTOH, if a man takes a video of an attractive woman and posts that online without her permission, how would you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:52 AM
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Maybe. I'd like to see some social media companies where that kind of post isn't allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:12 PM
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Community standards change. And I don't see why it should be OK to act against norms by dying your hair odd colors or wearing a lot of piercings, but not OK to act against norms by staring at people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:26 PM
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Don't start staring at them as that's going to make the other person uncomfortable. Now you're just becoming rude. Why should I care about being rude or not, by other people's standards, when no one cares about being rude to me by mine? I don't care if people stare at me; I do care if people judge me based on what I look at. In general, I'm a lot more concerned with being entitled to do what I want than preventing others from being entitled to do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:01 PM
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Is overtly sexualizing someone in public any less creepy? What it comes down to is, you don't want people even thinking about other people sexually unless the other people are OK with it. Well, a line must be drawn. If I see someone I'm attracted to, that's my interest in them. I don't care about their welfare, their comfort, their personality. At that point, all I'm interested in is their image. I know you don't like that, but I have no plans to change. So barring that, what should I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:54 PM
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Sure it is. If you go out in public, you don't have a right to your privacy. You don't have a right to not be made uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:50 PM
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Question: you don't care if you ever have sex again, but suppose you met a man who you otherwise liked, but who insisted on having sex at least once a month. Would you be willing to give in and have sex on his schedule just to keep the relationship going?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:34 PM
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Because some men don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:00 AM
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It's not even the external moral stigma, it's how we make men feel about their positions. It's like, "Men, be honest about what you want!" "OK, I want someone who'll take care of me in exchange for me working hard for her." "That's wrong to want; you should want to take care of her."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:14 PM
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Maybe, but what if the ultimate goal is to find a girlfriend who will be happy no longer touching grass once in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:26 PM
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I understand that the thing women fear most about interacting with men is their physical safety. What I wish more women understood is that the thing men fear most about interacting with women is their moral safety. We don't want to be known as bad people. Whether that's because we get too sexual or too aggressive or too selfish, at some point we want to be free to act without having to meet some standard that we don't get to contribute to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:24 PM
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Under the status quo ante, women were economically dependent on men. We set out, not just to give women the opportunity to change that, but to make it so that wasn't true anymore. We passed anti-discrimination laws and equal pay laws to give women equal economic power. We put societal stigmas on the idea that a man should keep a woman dependent on him. OK. But, despite women taking on masculine roles, we did not demand that women take on masculine attitudes. We haven't incentivized women to be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:39 PM
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In what way? I'm saying that there's a double standard for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:11 PM
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I don't think that applies. My point is that men are called bad when they do things for self-interest instead of pure altruism, but when women do things out of self-interest, that's accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:19 PM
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If a woman flirts with a man because she wants something from the man instead of because she wants him to feel good, is she a bad woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:09 PM
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What about those of us who don't care for an event when it's just about interaction and not actually a purpose? Like, if it were actually a potential dating meetup, that would make sense. But just "hanging out" to me is the least fun thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:49 PM
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That's my point. What we need to say it more like, "Men, try to not be an asshole in your approaches. Women, learn to accept that you don't have the right to not be approached."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:22 PM
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If you think approaching a woman is going to get a charge pressed, don't approach her? That's what's happening, and what's being complained about. We need to stop telling men, "Don't approach women if you're going to make them uncomfortable, but don't avoid approaching women if you're doing it right."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:39 PM
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I think the inherent value of a woman to a man is, "You choose to stay with me, and that gives me a sense of self-worth."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:59 PM
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I guess the question is, where are the desperate women? You can find desperate men all over. My suspicion is that A) there are fewer such women, but also B) women who are desperate are loath to admit it since it would lower their value in the dating pool. While desperate men have a more bald-faced honesty, in that they want to just say what it is that they are really feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:55 PM
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Women love men for what they do; men love women for what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:02 PM
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Meh, I'm not sure it's worth the effort, that's kind of my attitude toward the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:14 PM
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I'm 44. Never married, never had any kind of serious relationship that lasted a while. Don't know what to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:08 PM
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Because as a man, not everything matters to me. What you talk about with your friends, so long as it's not revealing personal secrets or badmouthing me, is not something I care about. It's a you thing, not an us thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:40 PM
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Personally, I think men looking for life partners should also have more preferences. I think this is another difference between men and women: women think that men's general attitude toward relationships should be more like women, and men think that the two sexes should have different attitudes toward relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:11 PM
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We have said time and again that looks are important and we get shit on by some men here for having preferences for physical appearances (ie height). We have said time and again that a nice personality is important and we get shit on by some men here for not wanting to date a man with a nice personality who we don’t find physically attractive. Maybe this is the difference: women seem to have a much more difficult time saying what isn't important to them. Because it sounds like everything is. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:46 PM
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