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That’s why I ask a woman before we go out what her dating morals are and if she likes to get to know one at a time or feels like she needs to date a couple at a time. Yes women will lie but the answer is how she responds not her response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:28 PM
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Online dating has killed dating because it gives women the false impression that all those men after her want more than just a one night stand. It’s made people think a new person is just a few clicks away so they tend to not try and solve the small problems and make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:25 AM
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Monkey branching. He has outlived his purpose to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:52 AM
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Never seen a man of value in a poly. It’s pretty much always a low value women with a group of simps around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:46 PM
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I don’t have kids and don’t want them. I don’t want a house wife and have no issue splitting the house work with her. I want a partner, someone who enjoys life with me as a companion, not as a meal ticket. Sadly very few women today want a 50/50 relationship despite what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:48 PM
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You have also said you are married. Dating has changed a ton in the last 20 years. The games, the hypergamy, the never ending quest for FOMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:42 PM
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Human nature has changed a ton since in the last 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:04 PM
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Same type of men who keep saying they are goofing to leave their wife for the side chick. You started this whole thread acting like you were a woman in your thirties in high demand. You keep changing your story when you get called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 06:44 PM
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It’s called sexual market value vs relationship market value. You have these women in their 30s who’s life is a wreck but they post tons of sexy pics and they have a inbox full of guys telling them they are hot, gorgeous, etc and they think I means they have a high RMV. No they guys don’t want to wife them or even GF them up. All they want is to hit it and quit it or use them as a side chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 05:52 PM
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Today women are the ones who initiate divorce over 70 percent of the time. I look at my older relatives and they are happy in love even as they grow old. Relationships today don’t last because people get married for the wrong reasons. You have women who try to baby trap men. The list goes on and on. Men didn’t change, women did and they destroyed relationships. Too many today want to spent their 20s “dating around” and then want someone to support them and treat them like they are in their early…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 05:09 PM
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Socially awkward losers? Judgmental much ? What’s changed is people have tons of people at the swipe of a finger. Before people would over look small issues and actually work on a relationship. Now it’s oh I don’t like how they slurp their soda so I’m on to the next person. Oh they don’t like the same TV show as me, on to the next person. There is a reason people years ago stayed married for 50 years or more. They knew a relationship took work. Today with the internet it’s instant gratification.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:10 PM
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Of course dating has changed a TON in the last 20 years. Look around and read the comments. Dating has changed massively in the last 20 years with the advent of internet dating and social media. I remember dating in the 90s and early 2000s and it’s NOTHING like it is today. To compare dating and relationships of 20 plus years ago is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:42 PM
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Ahh you change your story. I saw your other comments where you said “ahh I wish I were only 50, lol”. You forget others can see your past comments. And saying you have only been single a year in your adult life is a huge huge red flag. It means you are codependent. But I don’t believe you are in your 30s for a second. And yes I took a screenshot of the comment you made if you try to delete it. You are not in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:20 PM
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Once again you prove my point with your statement “decent men with good jobs who wanted to marry me”. Yet you are still single even with as you just admitted a pool of suitable men. And the fact they wanted to marry you means you dated them. Like I said women in their 30s without kids have issues. Why did you get a divorce ? And who initiated it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:02 PM
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You are projecting. They are not in “high demand”. Why would a man want a woman in her 30s who has no kids and is set in her ways ? She isn’t wife material because if she was she wouldn’t be single in her 30s. A guy in his 30s with his act together can get a woman in her 20s who actually wants a long term relationship. That childless woman in her 30s is going to be a career woman who has issues. Every single woman I’ve met in her 30s that didn’t have a kid or she wasn’t divorced had a ton of iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:42 AM
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Child free women in their 30s tend to have tons of issues. They have lived on their own a lot and tend to have the “ my way or the highway”. There is a reason they are still single in their 30s. They tend to have very high body count due to the classic “I’m going to have my fun and date around in my 20s” attitude. Now they want a decent man to wife them up and take care of them but they don’t want settle. Single childless women in their 30s who have never been married or in a long term relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:36 AM
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It’s not just about alimony. It’s about getting half of the savings and equity in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:11 PM
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Single women are happier until they hit their 30s then their happiness starts to greatly decline. During their 20s they have tons of men chasing them and they are never alone unless they want to be. They can go to a bar or club and have tons of men trying to buy them drinks and giving them attention. Once they get into their 30s that attention falls off because they are not longer seen as wife / child bearing age anymore. They broke the social contact by waiting so long. Men on the other hand te…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:09 PM
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When they do that I’ll call them out about their phone and see their reaction. If they get pissed and nasty I make them pay for their half. Don’t ever take a woman to a food date until she shows you affection.
/r/MGTOW226/07/21 04:46 PM
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Same with 50 shades. They can’t be happy just a health relationship. They need hedonism and the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:12 AM
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Ahh flawed logic. Women will sleep with a man when it comes to getting what they want. I never said that the only slept with the top 20 percent. I said that’s all their after when it comes to marriage and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:27 AM
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I love being MGTOW. No kids and live in a paid off house at the age of 39. Life is great. I should be able to retire in 5 years and enjoy a nice cozy life. I’ve found every women i meet all want the same thing and it’s to suck off my resources. They don’t want a 50/50 partnership. They just want to come in and offer some high mileage V for you to have the privilege of taking care of them.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 04:24 AM
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As I’ve said before the stats show women are far far more about looks than men are. Even OK Cupid said when they changed their system is was because women were getting tons of messages from tons of men. They changed the system because women said they didn’t want hear from most men. The majority of women only want a small minority of men. The 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:24 PM
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I can see you have never really been around custody cases. As I said before the woman has all the choices, rights, methods to avoid child support and the man has ZERO. Let’s look at your examples. A woman can get pregnant but not believe in abortion but not want to pay child support. She can hide / not notify the child’s father and put the child up for adoption and say “father is unknown”. She was able to terminate her parental rights without the risk or liability of child support. A man doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 03:51 PM
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Yes it’s a option ONLY if she agrees to it. Once again she has all the power and choice and he has none. And the father only gets a say if he is told and knows about the pregnancy. Many women have hidden the pregnancy or not told the man she was pregnant or the child was his. Like is said all the control and power and choice the woman has. The man only has liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:12 PM
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It’s his DNA and part of his body too. She can always put it up for adoption if she doesn’t want to have an abortion. So the part about it being cared for is not longer a issue. People are lined up to adopt kids so early on she can find someone to take it and help her along during the pregnancy. So she doesn’t have to an abortion and the child will have someone to care for it. Now that both of those have been addressed tell me once again why she has the say about keeping it or killing it and if …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:18 PM
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Abortion is 100 percent effective. If a woman has a choice why shouldn’t a man ? Simple question. Why should she have the power to end it and not be liable for that child but not him ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:47 PM
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Yes it’s that simple. If you incentivize irresponsible behavior and put the force of law behind it, you increase it. If a woman knows she can’t get child support and she is on her own, she will think twice about having a oops moment. But like I said above. I’ve personally had women try to baby trap me then get furious and enraged when they realize that wasn’t possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:14 PM
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Wow so go with an extreme situation to take it off topic ? If it’s rape then she needs to have filed a police report within 48 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:56 PM
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Simple answer is change the law. Make an agreement a man and woman have to sign agreeing to have a kid together. If she gets pregnant and pops out a kiddo and he didn’t agree to it she doesn’t get any money. But we know women will never agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:48 PM
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If a woman gets pregnant she can chose to end it or not. The man has no choice and he is on the hook. If women are not baby trappers then why have women fought all reforms on child support. A man should have the option to say no if you want to keep it fine but I am not paying for it. But he isn’t given this option and you don’t think women abuse this ? Take that down to the road to someone naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:57 PM
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Women marry men for a lifestyle. Look how many many talk about how the sex stops once the kids come around. Women use a man to get the life they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:52 PM
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Like I said you have your mind made up and no matter what I post or show you won’t believe it or will say it’s a small study etc. You prove my point. You feel women are the wronged party and men are the ones being horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:51 PM
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So women don’t use men for a lifestyle or for resources or manipulate them with the chance of sex ? https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550619856308
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:07 PM
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I think it’s a good cross section of society. Like I said no matter what I post you are going to find some reason not to agree with it. But let’s talk about a perfect example of how women manipulate and use men. Here is a really study where women admit to faking romantic interest in men to get free dinners. 1/3 of women admitted to faking interest in men to use them for a free dinner(s). I’m sure the number is higher because we know people don’t always admit to something negative on a survey. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:06 PM
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Go look at the female dating strategies sub Reddit’s and then tell me women don’t use and manipulate men with sex for money and other resources. I’ll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:33 PM
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It’s not just my experience with women. Go look around and talk to men about their experiences. There is a ton of subreddits about this. But let’s also look at women and their ways. Go to the Reddit of female dating strategies. They littery talk about how to use men and how to manipulate men with sex and other methods to get a lifestyle out of them. Oh but it’s only me right ? You can stick your head in the sand and say oh no men are the evils ones but women are just as bad if not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:32 PM
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https://youtu.be/HI2yTR3RX_o
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:01 PM
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No matter what I post you won’t agree with it. You will twist it or say it’s not acceptable to your liking. The fact of the matter is women are the ones still wanting to marry and men are opting out. We are seeing articles and studies about women saying there are not enough “financially attractive men”. The act of women using sex to manipulate and punish their husbands is as old as time. Even the classic “oh I have a headache” is in our lexicon. But you are only going to believe what makes women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:59 PM
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Sorry if the truth hurts but it’s still the truth. Look at how marriage has changed since women are earning more. They demand a man that makes as much or more as them. Could you imagine the screams of misogyny if they said men are not marrying women because their are not financially attractive ? My age and my relationship doesn’t matter to this conversation because I know you are going to try blame me if I said I was single, etc. But I will tell you I’ve personally seen women try to trap me as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:02 PM
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You are totally avoiding the point of 70 plus percent of women initiate divorce and the vast majority of time come out on better terms financially and custodial than men do. You can try to slice it and explain it away any way you want but the system has incentives for a woman to file but not for a man. But look at what men and women look for in each other and you will see why women file more. Most women today see a man as a means to a lifestyle. That’s why women won’t date or marry down the majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:42 PM
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The huffington post is a screen shot of typical marriages with what they talk about in this article. A lot of women marry for a transactional marriage. He gives her money, security, and kids and she gives him sex and cares for the kids. This has been the social contract of marriage since the dawn of time. That’s why men marry for continuous access to intimacy and sex. But now with that so easy to get men are opting out of marriage. There is a reason older women used to tel young girls not to giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:53 PM
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Yes so look at what goes along with custody. They get control of the house and the non custodial parent must move our and pay support while also now trying to find a place to live and supporting themselves. How do you not see this as being screwed. ? She one days says I’m not happy and issues the courts to force him out of his house yet he still has to pay for it and support the kids. A woman can find a man with a lot of earning income, marry, have kids, in a few years say I am not happy and he …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:08 PM
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Ahh and here comes the insults, why does that not surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:27 AM
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The division of assets when it comes to a family home with any amount of equity ends up in the courts. There is tons of fathers right divorce / custody lawyers all over the country. It’s such a a huge disparity in custody and division of property it’s made for a whole subsection of divorce lawyers just to represent men. Ask you self how often does the dad get custody ? Do some googling and you will find out women get custody the majority of time. The logic has been she was the care taker and he …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:56 AM
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Give him sex. Yes do some reading on how many women use withholding sex as a manipulation tool in marriage. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/franchesca-warren/sex-relationship_b_1659021.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:23 AM
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You are delusional. I know plenty of men as soon as the wife had kids she stops cooking and cleaning or giving him sex. She had him locked down and he has no control over what she does. You think all women are June cleaver? As soon as you said the patriarchy I know you are a liberal loon who is totally delusional about women and marriage today. Hell even women celebrate that they don’t take care of a house.”I don’t cook I don’t clean but lemme tell you how I got this ring”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:28 AM
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You are hilarious saying fathers just choose to give them custody. How can you say that with a straight face. There a whole industry of fathers rights lawyers who fight like hell for fathers to get custody. It’s a forgone conclusion that the mother gets custody unless the mother is a horrible horrible person with a documented issue of mental health and drug problems. Even then it’s very very hard. This is what men talk about all the time. Courts by default almost always give moms primary custody…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:25 AM
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A woman has less to lose in a divorce. She gets to keep the kids She gets to keep the house He has to now support her and the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:35 AM
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If you look at who is happier single as they get older it’s men. Men are able to be happy single, women not so much. Men by their nature can be happy alone in a cabin in the woods. Women need social attention and make attention. Look at a woman’s Facebook vs a man’s. A man’s is maybe some pics of him and his car, fishing, etc. A woman’s is selfie selfie selfie selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:33 AM
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Actually if you look at the explosion of single moms today it shows women will allow plenty to smash and dash. Look around /whereareallthegoodmen forum and see the tons and tons of women who have a kid but want a good man to “step up” and help her raise him. They pick men based on looked and butterflies and then try to baby trap them and act like they are victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:05 AM
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I can find stats on anything I want to prove any opinion I want. Welcome to the world of academia of social sciences. Everyone here is arguing their bias. Welcome to the club. The women thing the mean are all abusive assholes and that’s why 70 percent leave them. The men see all their fiends getting divorce graped and thrown out of their house so she can move her new BF in. Bottom line is men have more to lose and very little recourse. At any point in a time a woman can just say “I am not happy”…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:36 PM
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I’ll take stats and surveys any day. But I can’t stand someone who just throws them up and cannot actually articulate what they have posted. That’s like walking into court and throwing a ton of paperwork at the jury and saying here read this and you will find it client innocent. I asked a direct question and she wanted to toss surveys to not have to answer it. Why are women the ones filing for divorce so much? Why is it so hard to give me a simple paragraph answer. The real answer is most marry …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:22 PM
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She tried to throw misleading graphs and then explain them with her agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:18 PM
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I can tell you being 6’2” it makes a huge difference in the way women approach you and talk to you in a crowd of shorter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:13 PM
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Wow what a broad brush to paint with. Have any sources to cite ? If you look at the majority of divorce documents abuse isn’t brought up. It’s mainly they are not happy anymore aka irreconcilable differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:11 PM
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I base my claims on what I see in court filings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:42 PM
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You dodged the question. Don’t give me stats and surveys. In your own words. Why is it women are so much unhappier that they file for 70 percent or more of the divorces. This isn’t the era of arraigned marriages. Women have free choice. Are they that bad of pickers ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:42 PM
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Notice how quick you dodged the point. You just said women are not picky but then said Tinder is only for hot people. Make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:53 PM
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Really well cite sources. But lemme ask you this, why are women so unhappy that 70 percent of the time they are the ones who file for divorce ? Maybe it’s the fact they married for money and security instead of love and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:52 PM
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Also you would be amazed at how many women I’ve met via online dating who say they are looking for long term and marriage but lose their shit when you bring up a prenup. But let’s go down the rabbit hole of why women are not happy in their relationships. 70 percent are women who file so who is the gender that’s harder to make happy and harder to meet their standards ? Like I said earlier. Women tend to marry for the wrong reasons and once they get what they want (kids and leverage via the courts…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:50 PM
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Yea you live in a dream world. Look up the term “monkey branching”. What women do is they file divorce and clean out the husband and make him support her and the kids. Then she can date the men she is sexually attractive to and not have to worry about a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:23 PM
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Actually men are not as picky when it comes to women they marry. Men want looks and personality. Women want security, social status, money, etc. Women divorce to move up to a higher class man in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:58 PM
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“If you are not hot don’t use Tinder”. I think you just proved my point. But but if women are not so superficial then why doesn’t a average looking guy do well on Tinder ? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:54 PM
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We all settle when we find a mate. I have no ego in this. Heck I’m being realistic. If anyone the women have more of a ego with the massive entitlement they feel men owe them in dating. But there is a lot of levels of settling. If you settle someone who you don’t find sexually attractive and feel like sex is something you just have to give them as part of the relationship, it’s going to fail and I won’t stand for that. Easy way to tell if a woman is settling is if she has had one night stands, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:34 PM
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But here is a real world example. Even a half way attractive women can make a online profile and get tons and ton of emails in her DMs. A average looking man won’t get hardly any. Same with Tinder. They have shown a woman can swipe on most guys and odds are she will get matches. As a guy he can swipe on every woman and only get a few. When it comes to looks women are much more picky. Hell just look at the “he’s gotta be 6 feet tall” that’s so common.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:01 PM
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You need to see my post above. It’s called what women want vs what the finally settle for when they hit 30 and the attention runs out. When their inbox gets less and less DMs or when they had a baby with guy to try and lock him down but he said no thanks. Now they are a single mom and have to deal with how that limits their choices. A woman in her 20s vs a woman in her 30s and what she will settle for are hugely different. Why do you think so many women are the initiators people divorce over 70 …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:59 PM
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Of course it’s simplified version. It shows the hard numbers. You are trying to skew the hard truth behind a overly complicated graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:46 PM
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You said the key word “settle” and the because they are not happy they cheat and that’s why over 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women. They asked women how they rated me. They didn’t talk abort what the settled for. Look at women dating in their 20s. They are not settling for average looking men. They are all going after the bad boys / good looking men till they realize they can’t lock them down. Then reality hits and they marry a man they settled for because their baby clock was tickli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:45 PM
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Yes it’s different standards. To make a man work for sex while you give it away on a one night stand to another man speaks massively how you see that man. You see one as so sexually arousing that you don’t care about commitment or any type of courting. The other you make earn the sex because truth is you see him as a beta provider. Men are not stupid. We know why women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:31 PM
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Ahh another post blaming all the problems of dating on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:29 PM
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You didn’t show that graph. You showed others to try and claim the opposite and push your agenda. Women do have very high standards of looks when judging men. As shown it’s the 8020 rule. But if you already posted this same graphic why does it bother you if I posted it again ? Eh ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:18 PM
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The metrics from OK Cupid would disagree. Men are much more open minded on looks than wome. OK Cupid graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:00 PM
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Men are not going to chase her endlessly to stroke her ego. Those days are gone. They want equality so they can enjoy it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/21 02:51 PM
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Growing up means you have grown and seen the error of your ways. Most women who spent their 20s dating bad boys and being promiscuous don’t “grow up” and regret their ways. The see they can’t sustain that lifestyle because they cannot get the same level of attrition and use men’s for resources without commitment. As a result we see a lot of women “settle” and end up in divorce. That’s why we see 70 percent of divorce initiated by women. A lot of women in their 30s bought the lie they cousin have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:45 PM
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This has been why I don’t date much. I’ve had women tel me outright they expect to be courted, taken out to dinner, wooed, etc but they are not going to stop sleeping with anyone they want until they are in a committed relationship. The classic “you are controlling trying to tell me who and who not to sleep with”. Guys if she likes to talk about controlling ex’s all the time it means she doesn’t like responsibility or accountability. Move on. It’s all about narcissism today in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:38 PM
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I have zero issue with a woman wanting to date and with on sex as long as she is willing to put just as much equity into the process. Women want men to wait to prove their intentions are honest and they want a relationship just easy sex right ? So then by the same logic a woman should also prove her intentions are wanting a relationship and not just free dinner and entertainment. So simple solution is Dutch dating until she feels comfortable having sex with him. Because if she is making him wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:39 PM
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The simple move is not to get married. Like I tell women if your intentions are honest then you have nothing to worry about and we can grow old together. The only reason they would need a legal marriage is to use the courts to take money from me. Also not getting married makes a woman have to stay the women she was when y’all were dating. If she decides no more sex or she wants to gain a ton of weight you just move on to someone new. No divorce or any mess like that. But as soon as a woman knows…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:10 PM
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In dating I’ve lost count how many women lost their mind as soon as I said I don’t believe in marriage or brought up a prenup. You make it seem so simple just find a woman who has as much as I do. Well news flash most women don’t. I worked my whole life, never had kids, made very good investments. Very very few women have the same or more as me. And this is why marriage and having kids benefits women and not men. What man in his right mind would give a woman this type of power over him. https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:46 PM
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It has nothing to do with marrying a poor woman. It has to do with her wanting more and more. Look at divorce outcomes. Women can just say I am not happy anymore and take half his stuff even if she didn’t earn it. Ah and once again you blame men. Don’t marry poor women and you won’t have that problem 😂. Sweetie look around at which gender wants marriage the most. Hint it’s not men talking about their dream wedding. It’s not men crying about wanting commitment. Women are the ones who want marriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:18 PM
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Ahh and there is the shaming tactics. Tell me what does marriage offer a man ? Tax breaks are not worth the risk, and he can have a will or trust to hand down his property. So tell me what does marriage offer a man that just living with a woman doesn’t ? That’s another major tenet of the redpill. As soon as you let a woman have power over you she will stop being the women she was to get you to commit to her. We see it all the time to the point it’s cliche about women letting themselves get out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:40 PM
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Look around at all women on YouTube and the dating forums asking where are all the good men. I live in a major city and we have a online local Facebook group for singles that’s has in person meetings. Trust me when I tell you there is tons of single women in their 30s and up who keep posting the same “all I can find is fuck boys” “where are all the decent men”. Most of the red pill tenets are not toxic. Things like have a prenup if you are going to get Married. Get clipped so she can’t baby trap…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:52 PM
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Men are becoming crazy ?? How so ? Single moms are more miserable because they know they cannot compete with a woman who has no kids. When given a choice any man is going to chose the freedom of a woman with no kids over a single mom. Now let’s get onto the real details. Yes it’s easier for a woman to get dates ie men who just want to have sex with her. Women have no issues with this. That’s why they say women are the gate keepers of Sex. But men are the gate keepers of relationships and commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:25 PM
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Really then why are women so upset about the red pill Communities? How old are you and do you have any kids ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:37 PM
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Grew up 😂. Oh you are funny. Of course they will struggle to find a man, why you think they are making videos like this. They are coming to the hard reality that the men they rejected as “boring” or “too nice” when they were In their 20s are the only ones who want them today. They are mad because they cannot get the high value men anymore. Men don’t want damaged goods. A woman who spent her 20s being promiscuous isn’t what a high value man in his 30s wants. Also those men in their 30s can date t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:25 PM
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https://youtu.be/QjpihAGVY6s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:46 PM
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Like I said I’ve seen it first hand. Girls I went to college with who wouldn’t even talk to a man who wasn’t a ten are now suddenly looking for the good guys. There is tons of interviews with women in their 20s on YouTube. They flat out admit they want to date the bad boys in their 20s and have fun then when they are In their 30s date the “safe good guy who can provide”. Like I said look the endless profiles of women over 30 and or single moms who have the “had my fun, looking to settle down now…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:46 PM
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Sounds like hit dog syndrome. I am not obsessing, I am discussion a very major issue in the dating market today. Too many women chose to have a child with a man who had not interest in having a long term relationship with them. Now them expect men to “step up” and pay to raise someone else’s child. Like I said go to any online dating app and under filters click “doesn’t have kids, doesn’t want them” and watch the majority of women go away. https://youtu.be/jIefyXpPqL8
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:40 PM
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I don’t associate with them anymore. I’ve learned my lesson a long long time ago. And here is the blame game, I am the reason if they are interested in me. Yes I have my life in order, have worked hard, and they think they can flirt and get me to provide for their mistakes. Nope nope nope. They have to live with the price of their bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:09 PM
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A fantasy ? It’s called the laws of SMV. Look all over the internet and dating websites. Tons of single moms with the “tired of the games” “where is the real men” “I’ve had my fun”. Just look around sweetie and you can see the rejection hitting them. The desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:07 PM
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Women today still expect men to be traditional and chase them, romance them, etc but women don’t want to be traditional women. They want to be out dating a bunch of men having casual sex whole still expecting high value men to court them. Hell I had a woman tell me flat out she was going to keep having sex with her FWB untill any guy courting her has gotten her to the point of being monogamous. That’s insane. You want me to take you out to dinner trying to woo you and then drop you off after a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:23 AM
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I never said every single women I know is a is a single mom. I said go look on any dating website. The vast majority are single moms who made poor choices in men and they are looking for another man to clean up their mistakes. And like I said women refuse to take accountability for their poor choices. If you say anything bad about a single mom, you end up getting attacked by women like you. I see tons of single mom who chose to have kids out of wedlock and then act like they are the victim becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:18 AM
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The point of the post is saying men don’t take responsibility for their choices in women. My point is men take far more heat and ownership than women ever do even with the evidence right in front of them. Single mom with three kids and three different dads but we dare not say she is at any fault for that mess she is in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:41 PM
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How often do we see a woman with multiple kids by multiple men? Yet it’s never their fault for some reason. All from men they never married either. My point is women are the gender who don’t want to accept responsibility for the outcomes of their choices. How common is this story. She is with a guy for a few months and gets pregnant and then he runs off. You ask her why she got pregnant from a guy who she wasn’t married to and OMG misogyny. It’s never her fault. It’s all the men who just wouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:40 PM
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Yes it is. Just look how hard the women are fighting it and attacking it.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 10:36 PM
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Actually it’s women who often don’t want to take responsibility for their poor choices in men. When a man talks about women screwing him over it’s women who blame him for poor choices and say the classics like. Where are you meeting these women ? I don’t know any women who do things like this. You need to change how you date and who you pick. Now when a man screws over a women it’s always the man’s fault and if you dare try to tel a woman she need to pick better men then you are attacked as vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:42 PM
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This is why you don’t have kids and don’t get married.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 02:20 AM
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It’s interesting how women love to paint the extreme picture of the red pill. Ladies let me tell you how I have adopted red pill dating. I want a equal relationship and only talk to women who from the start agree that’s what they want. I’m not a teenager or a guy in his 20s looking for a woman to make kids with. I’m 40 and have my life in order and don’t have kids and don’t want them and I’ve had the snip snip so NO KIDS. If a woman has so far agreed that she is looking for a partner to enjoy li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:53 PM
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She knows if she wants to have sex with other men or told you she did that you wouldn’t want her anymore. She wants to appear pure and high value to you and if she started sleeping around she knows that she would lose her luster. As we have all said and know, a relationship is an exchange of mutually beneficial aspects that are negotiated. She likes what you give her and that you are high value. She likes the social aspects and having you as her man. She doesn’t like having to let you have sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:50 AM
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They don’t like it because they can’t have it that way and it’s putting ideas in other men’s heads and they don’t like it. Truth is you must be a high value man and your wife recognizes it and will allow you to do the is. Is she happy with it, odds are not but knows it part of the deal. Women don’t like seeing this because it tells other men their expectation is not unrealistic and that other men and women do it. It’s like when a guy talks about how to stop women from playing games or how to pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:35 AM
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I know “hot” men and women and I see how dating is for them. Trust me it’s very easy for them. They can be mean and rude and put in no effort and the other person will just keep doing all the work and chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 06:46 PM
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Why are women so upset with the red pill ? Because men are not thinking with their dick. They are looking at the logic of how relationships are and they are walking away. But let’s talk about logic. Look at the massive amount of single moms. They chose to have a child with a man who won’t commit instead of having one with a man who does. Then they lose their mind that no men want to date a woman with kids. They think with emotion not logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:58 PM
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A woman will lie about the sex being good so she can keep him around for his resources. If she tells him he is horrible in bed he is going to move on and she won’t have access to what all he can offer her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:26 PM
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The whole thread is about who is MORE logical. So the very point is one gender is more emotional and less logical. Neither gender is pure logic. Like I said women even admit to it once a month saying they cannot control their emotions because of hormones due to their cycle. I’ve lost count how many women I’ve heard justify their irrational behavior once a month because of their cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:09 PM
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You maybe the exception but not the rule. I’ve seen it many times and it’s well documented. Unless someone has had gastric surgery it’s very hard for them to keep the weight off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:17 AM
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Women hate the red pill because it tells men how to not be used and abused. It’s warnings on what to watch out for. Red flags to avoid, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:03 AM
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Another post saying it’s all men’s fault for following the bad paths women have chosen and enabling them by being sugar daddies and only fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:39 AM
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Everyone is emotional at times. The question is who is more emotional. No matter what example I give you are going to play word games.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:38 AM
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Everyone is emotional at times. The question is who is more emotional. No matter what example I give you are going to play word games.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:37 AM
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Men can be happier single than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:24 AM
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Overall women are more emotionally drive. Hell y’all use it as an excuse once a month to have bad behavior. The classic I’m hormonal and emotional so leave me alone I can help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:19 AM
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What’s interesting is when a woman makes a post about dating crappy men she is never to blame. It’s always men are trash, etc. When a man says he cannot meet decent women and they all are the same, women tell him the classic “you need to pick / meet different women”. But I stand by my statement. If women were not emotional and were more logical we would not see all the single unmarried moms we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:32 PM
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Of course they do. Last year was a perfect example. I had women I hadn’t talk to in years coming out of the wood work asking if I wanted to go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:37 PM
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Because I see it over and over. Go on any dating website and you see women / single moms posting over and over tried of the games and being used, etc etc. Where are all the good men. There are plenty of good men. They just choose to date the horrible men because they excite them and get them all emotional. If you look at the very root of red pill it’s men rooted in logic. They are looking at cause and effect. If women used logic they would be single moms. They would properly vet the man and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:30 PM
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Because I see it over and over. Go on any dating website and you see women / single moms posting over and over tried of the games and being used, etc etc. Where are all the good men. There are plenty of good men. They just choose to date the horrible men because they excite them and get them all emotional. If you look at the very root of red pill it’s men rooted in logic. They are looking at cause and effect. If women used logic they would be single moms. They would properly vet the man and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:30 PM
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This is why you never marry a woman who lost a ton of weight. They will gain it back as soon as they are comfortable or stressed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:10 PM
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Yup but they don’t realize it’s only short term. Even the biggest simp will get tired of their shit. They will end up unhappy in life and alone or with someone they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 06:07 PM
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The issue is putting in the time and equity to earn the benefits. Women today don’t want to build a life with a man they want to date around in their 20s while he struggles and builds his life. But a women wants a man to just accept her as she is and deal with her issues from the start. The bottom line is women don’t want to put any equity in a relationship. From the dating process all the way to the marriage. They want men to built up their own life, do all the courting, spend all the money, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:14 PM
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Women have started putting a lot of warnings out there and I’m so glad so we don’t have to waste our time. Like when they put tons of politics in their dating profiles. It tells you they are crazy and to avoid like the plague. Before we had to waste time and money to find out they are crazy. Now they just plaster that shit right on their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:08 PM
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My response to the “if you can’t handle me at my worst you don’t deserve me at my best” is love / relationship is like a bank. You can’t open an account with no money and immediately write a check for $10,000. You need to put good times in and build equity before you can make a bad times withdraw. They don’t like to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:06 PM
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Misogyny and racism have become the modern day McCarthyism. You cannot have a rational conversation with someone or argue their points, no problem. Just call them racist or misogynistic and you can shut down the conversation with intellectual dishonesty and laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:40 PM
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Overall men are more logical and less emotional rooted in their daily and life decisions. Look at the biggest issue we see with women dating the bad boys that use and abuse them but then cry about finding a good guy. They are totally being driven by emotion because logic thinking would have made them date the good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:33 PM
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Overall men are more logical and less emotional rooted in their daily and life decisions. Look at the biggest issue we see with women dating the bad boys that use and abuse them but then cry about finding a good guy. They are totally being driven by emotion because logic thinking would have made them date the good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:33 PM
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Most I’ve met in their 30s see the walls closing in and want a marriage bad but not for love or a husband. It’s about having a baby and security. They don’t care a rats rear about the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:33 PM
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Oh trust me I have. That’s why I only have a handful of friends. I don’t have a ton of people on FB or have parties with a ton of people over. Most people are very self and narcissistic and will only be a “friend” as long as you are useful. This is the case with 99 percent of women. They don’t want to be your friend. They want to use you. That’s why I lay down the rules whenever I’ve had a women I tried to date give me the “I could really use a friend”. I tell them if they want a friend I’ll be …
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 01:46 PM
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Women had a out that men don’t. If a woman’s contraception fails she can have an abortion. If a man’s doesn’t work he is SOL. Also there is a lot of manipulative women who try and baby trap men. When I first start dating a woman I don’t tell her I am clipped. I ask if she wants kids and I only date women who are very adamant about not having kids and that have a IUD or on BC. I’ve had several lose their mind after a few months when I tell them I am clipped. I had one who got preg and claim it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:09 PM
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So what happened to women not needing men and being strong and independent. I noticed you want to act like women only married men because they had to for money. But suddenly you are quiet about equal rights when it comes to being a parent. A woman can have an abortion and not have any child support, a man has zero control over that choice once there is conception. If women knew there wasn’t a safety net they wouldn’t have kids with random men. That’s how society used to work. It’s called social …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:58 PM
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Women want to get married a lot more than men do. Women can’t have kids on their own. If they don’t want a man then don’t file for child support. If you want it equal a man should have the same rights as a women to abort or not aupoort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:20 PM
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Of course it’s a contact. Have you never heard of a the term “the social contact”. It’s an unwritten agreement. Women wanted to have a family and be supported. Men wanted a pure woman who had not slept around. And marriage is a contact. And yes stigma was a huge reason women didn’t sleep around. Why do you think women didn’t want to even be around promiscuous women? They didn’t want it to hurt their image and value. And we are seeing this today. How many women pine away about wanting a high valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:43 PM
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Of course it would work but you have too many simps. Women used to not be this way because once they got the Scarlett letter they were done. No man wanted them. Now we see the rise of the simp and the white knight and women know they can do what they want and some simp will give them a nice life and commitment. Before women knew a man wouldn’t touch them and they would grow old and alone. Remember back when women said don’t give it away for free. There was a social contact. A women gave a man he…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 04:01 PM
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Very well said. Most people are not your friend. They are only your friend as long as you are useful to them and or don’t ask them to really help you.
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 05:46 AM
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Because I’ve seen it in action with friends and women I’ve know. A woman makes a man wait to appear virtuous and make him think she isn’t promiscuous. Now if a woman has always made a man wait that’s one thing. But if she has causal sex with men but wants one she is interested in for a relationship wait, it’s because he isn’t sexually appealing to him. She will have duty sex to keep him happy but she isn’t going to go wild with him like she did the causal sex guys. Same if she says there are sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:06 AM
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Of course you women say it’s not true because you know of you did, men wouldn’t put up with it. Any woman who says she is making a man wait for what ever reason is full of it. She isn’t worried it will ruin the relationship, she isn’t worried he is trying to just get sex and run. She doesn’t find him seriously arousing and she is also trying to make him think she isn’t promiscuous. She knows if she just goes right to sex he is going to know he is far from the first man she did that with and he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:36 AM
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You let a man who is a 9 wait. I call BS. I’ve seen it way too much. Women start the “you need to wait” when they hit their 30s and are done with the causal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:51 AM
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A woman only makes a man wait for two reasons. One she doesn’t find him sexually arousing. Two, she waits him to think she doesn’t hop into bed. She is trying to stay virtuous in his eyes. A thing I used to ask women who claimed they wanted a serious relationship and didn’t have casual self was if they minded a polygraphs? I have a friend who is a polygraph examiner and I said we each get to ask ten questions but we don’t get to know each other’s questions till asked. The first this all women ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:28 PM
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Yea you give it up because you find them attractive sexually. The ones you make wait you find attractive for security and resources. If a woman finds a man sexually attractive she won’t make him wait. I’ve had a good amount of women admit this. Just like a woman knows within the first minute of meeting a man if she will ever be willing to hav sex with him. The only thing that will change that is if he wins the lotto.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:59 PM
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The fact you use the word as an attack and insult screams bitter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:52 PM
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Lol incel garbage. You just proved my point. I have no problems with women since I have learned to play the game and have no issues with sex You just sound so angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:29 PM
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Absolutely but women today don’t want equal treatment unless it benefits them. They want men to date them like traditional old fashioned men did but they don’t want to act like old fashion traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:50 PM
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You are trying to make excuses. If a woman is ok with one night stands and hook ups / causal sex with men she doesn’t want a relationship with but demands a man wait that wants a relationship, it’s clear she doesn’t see him as sexually attractive. Sure she will give him sex but like like she did with the causal guy. Ladies how would you feel if a guy talked about all the romance and excitement he gave some other women but said he won’t give you that because it’s different? It’s the same. We men …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:44 PM
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Every woman who says “friends first” uses a man. You women can play naive but it’s how it works. When a woman tells me that like about fiends first I tell her no thanks. No amount of dates and hanging out is going to make her suddenly find you sexually attractive. It’s really true when she says that but has had one night stands and hook ups. Rules for betas and breaks them for alphas. We know the score 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:40 PM
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Nope we are just being honest about the game. It’s women who are crying that men won’t commit anymore. Look around at who is trying to get men’s forums and YouTube channels taken down. It’s women, they don’t want it to be fair. They want to hold all the cards. Men have woke up and it scares women. Look how many single moms and crazy cat ladies there are. Naaa women are paying for their poor dating methods. Yes it gave them a ton of fun in their 20s but now they have to pay the price for the rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:18 PM
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Waiting a “few dates” isn’t what most women try to do, they want a month or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:15 PM
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You are trying to date the 20 percent of men who have tons of options. That’s why they expect you to put in all the work. But welcome to being a guy trying to date women today. They expect him to do all the chasing, all the work, and spend all the money. That is unless he is the top 20 percent. Like I said. Women make rule for betas and break them for alphas. I know plenty of men who would put in tons of work when move mountains for a woman and she would just use him and lead him on. This is dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:44 PM
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Nope it’s not and if a woman wants to play these games she need to be ready for how unfair life is going to end up. Just the hard truth. She wants to have tons of hook ups then suddenly make the quality man wait ?!? Nope, not going to happen. Y’all used to be able to do that before the days of the internet when all us guys can now share the methods of manipulation women today use.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:34 PM
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If a woman has had one night stands and had zero issue hopping into bed with a random man but tells this guy he has to wait because she likes him even more ? Nope does work that way and we men know that. You can’t push that lie anymore. But I’ll humor you. If you want a guy to wait, do you have any issue paying your half of all the dates ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:31 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. If she makes sex conditional it means the juice is NOT worth the squeeze. Any woman who makes a man wait does not find him attractive and she never will. Like the old friends first bullshit women used to say in the 90s. She would try to make you think if you kept taking her out on dates she would eventually find you sexually attractive. And while you were trying to build a friendship suddenly one day she would just announce she met the most wonderful man and is in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:26 PM
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Women today can’t cook like their mom but they can drink like their dad. Women are drinking so much because they are really unhappy. Why do you think we see so many mad feminists on TV and the internet. Women today try to act like they are free, independent, strong, and happy but they are not. Most I’ve met are single and miserable. The amount of a anti depressant use in women under 40 has skyrocketed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:18 PM
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That’s the huge difference. Yes a lot of women use this as a method to string men along and get free dinners. Some women do want to wait and I understand that as long as they are willing to put equity in the game buy going Dutch on the dates. But when a woman wants a man to wait but also keep taking her out on dates and spending money on her, she has ZERO invested or risked in the dating and has no reason not to lead him on. Like I said I’ve had women just give me the whole, look I really want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:02 PM
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You hit the nail on the head but the women try every way they can to say oh no it’s not like that. When a woman will climb into bed with a man she just met it means she finds him very attractive and is willing to break all the rules she has to have sex with him. When she meets a guy and tells him right off the bat she wants to wait, it means she seems him as a long term prospect for security and resources NOT as a sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:56 PM
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You want a man to wait because you don’t find him sexually arousing like you did the guys you had hook ups with. Like the old saying, she makes rules for betas and breaks them for alphas. Think about how that makes a man feel. You tell him oh I’ve had one night stands with me but I am going to make you wait and take me out on dates, etc to earn that sex. You send a clear message to a man you see him as a lessor man than the men you hopped right into bed with. Same as when a women says she doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:52 PM
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Nothing wrong with that as long as the make the dating process fair and equitable. My issue is how many women I’ve met who wait to hold out on sex but make the man keep courting them and taking them out on dates. That’s when it’s a issue. She has not equity or skin the in the game so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:49 AM
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The issue is when she make different people pay a different “price” for sex. When a woman says I’ve had one night stands or I do enjoy causal sex but I want to wait, it sends very clear message to the man. She doesn’t find him sexually attractive. I have found very few women will actually wait on sex. They may make YOU wait but that doesn’t mean they are not having sex with someone else while they are trying to get you to “prove yourself” to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:34 AM
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I have women always get pissed when they say they don’t want a romantic relationship but really want me as a friend. I politely decline and they always throw a shit fit saying ohh since I wouldn’t have sex with you, you won’t be my friend? And they go into the lecture about not owing sex after a date. I agree and say no one owes anyone sex after a date but I also don’t owe you friendship after a date either. It’s my friendship and my choice.
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 02:28 AM
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The only time I stop and help a woman is if she is a elderly lady. Women want to be equal I’ll treat them equal. I’ve lost count how many say they are a modern independent strong woman and want to be treated as such. I say that’s fine we both split the dinner check. Oh then suddenly they want to be treated like a woman. But that’s also like the BS of women wanting to go out on a date then telling you that your really sweet but they just want to be friends. I decline and tell them I don’t have ti…
/r/MGTOW201/06/21 01:21 AM
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The only way that feminism stops is when men show women what true equality is. We don’t help them change tire or do any thing we wouldn’t do for a man. Women want equality then make them have to take both the good and bad sides of it. But too many simps rush in to do all the hard work for women in hopes of getting some sex which they never end up getting. What made feminism is simps.
/r/MGTOW231/05/21 08:11 PM
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What cracks me up is how woman will not date a guy like she describes. The whole toxic masculinity thing is women trying to make betas to use.
/r/MGTOW222/05/21 03:46 AM
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The Southern poverty law center is a hard leftist organization that labels anything that doesn’t agree with their ideology as a hate group or supremacy group. MGTOW is just men opting out and that scares the hell out of the left. Just like the ones now saying men need to “lean in” and mentor women in the work place and risk a false accusation.
/r/MGTOW218/05/21 03:28 PM
2

Why are you banging her bare ?
/r/askTRP08/05/21 12:08 AM
1

Marriage offers a man NOTHING. Why do you think women push it so hard.
/r/MGTOW229/04/21 04:40 AM
1

Turned 40 this year and have no regrets about not being married. Date them till they stop being sweet and frisky. Why buy when you can just lease. Only a fool gets married today.
/r/MGTOW226/04/21 04:38 AM
3

When you show them how much they can enjoy life and have fun without needing a woman it really opens the world up to them.
/r/MGTOW224/03/21 11:34 PM
2

I got clipped in my 20s and don’t regret it. The fun part is not telling women who you can see a mile away are trying to baby trap you. They will give you unreal sex a couple times a week for a few months trying get pregnant.
/r/MGTOW222/03/21 03:23 AM
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Can’t agree more. I’m 41, divorced, no kids, and have my own house. I’m also self employed. I wouldn’t change it for the world. The freedom to do what I want when I want.
/r/MGTOW221/03/21 05:26 AM
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I don’t want a woman who engages in causal sex pure and simple. But most women are going to so men are like hell whit it. I’d she is giving it away I am gonna get some. Remember women have always been and are still the hate keepers of sex. Before women would trade the agreement of sex for a Relationship. Hence the old saying don’t give it away for free. But now sex is easy to get so why should a man give a woman commitment. But if you ask a man what he would truly want, most would say a woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:40 AM
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There is sources that are ambiguous and subject to the readers bias. You can cite things like divorce and such. But numbers like cheating is very hard to quantify.
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 02:54 PM
1

Of course they are. They start working on learning how to manipulate men from a young age. We all remember the girl in Jr high who said she would do anything if you would buy her something she asked for. Well when you did then asked for a kiss or snuggle she would get really loud and say how dare you expect that from me and try and shame you. Women are raised to be hypergamous and rewarded for their manipulation of men. Men are raised to believe that if they treat a woman right it will be reward…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:25 PM
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As a teenager I alway though of women special magical creatures. As I got older and saw the real side of them I’ve grown to distrust them and honestly avoid them. Women only seem to be friendly when they want something and if you refuse they get mad and using shaming tactics.
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 02:21 PM
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Yes no one dates just for love anymore if they have any options. Don’t get me wrong you will see two ugly people with no options in life date each other just to not be alone. But as soon as one person’s situation changes due to weight loss or large rise in income they will leave and find something better. The vast majority of relationships are based on transaction / business like options. What can you offer me and what can I offer you. Sad but that’s just the way it is and it’s nothing new. Look…
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 02:25 AM
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I give women common courtesy that I give everyone on the street. Will I got out of my way to help one, nope. Respect is something that’s earned and not given. Most women don’t respect men but expect men to respect them. But then they wonder why they have that issue. Most women today don’t live their lives in a respectable manor or date in any way they would garner them any respect from a man.
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 02:23 AM
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Trying to find sources to agree with MGTOW is very hard. Most research and media is very biased against it.
/r/MGTOW217/03/21 02:20 AM
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It’s about shaming men to keep them working.
/r/askTRP14/03/21 09:39 AM
1

I disagree. There is far more promiscuous woman than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 09:00 PM
1

You sound bitter, who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 09:34 PM
2

Also if it’s just me then why is MGTOW becoming so big and why are so many women attacking it. If they want a equal relationship and are trying to date their work why are they getting so upset. YouTube is full of women shaming and attacking MGTOW, if it’s only low value men why are they getting so upset ? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:11 PM
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Lol can’t handle the truth so you toss out some passive aggressive and insults. Go look at the red pill community and you will find it’s very widespread. Also look how many woman are attacking the red pill movement and trying to shame men into not wanting a financially 50/50 relationship. The men you talk to are not going to tell you how it is because they want hook up with you and your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:08 PM
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A study ? Lol. Talk to any man who is trying to date today and he will tell you how most women are. They are dominated by narcissism and solipsism. Just to look on any dating website. It’s profile after profile of single moms wanting a high value man who is far above their education and professional career level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:47 AM
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Women want men to pay for everything like housing and such leaving them free to use their money for what they want. I’ve seen plenty of women who make man pay for everything while they save all their money. Why do you think so many women throw a fit at a 50/50 relationship when it comes to splitting the bills. How often have you see this classic answer. When a man asks a woman what does she bring to the table. Her answer is “I am the table”. Women think offering sex is a commodity in a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 02:49 AM
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The relationship of a man and woman used to be a symbiotic and mutualistic. Now it’s become one where women have become parasites to men. I don’t mean that to be mean but just from a honest perspective. A woman sees a man as a provider and security. If he isn’t making money and providing he has no purpose for her. Years ago women wanted to build up a man but now mostly women want to find a man who is already self made and enjoy his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 03:55 PM
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The problem is provision is a two way street and most women think they have a lot more to offer than they do compared to what they offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:20 AM
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Plenty of men want a decent woman and not a Stacey. I am 6’2” and 230lb. I take good care of myself and have my life in order with no kids. I am not looking for a Stacy or a perfect ten. I also don’t fuck around because that’s not what I’m into. Some of us want a relationship but trying to find a woman who has her life in order with no kids who isn’t into or hasn’t been into casual sex is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:42 PM
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Let’s define “protecting”. Are you talking about actual protection from someone hurting you or talking about a man with money who protects you from having to work. Protection means many different things to women today. If all you are finding is weak or “toxic” men it means that you are looking at the wrong men or trying to date outside your SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:38 PM
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There is a difference between a purebred German Shepard and a junkyard mixed pit bull. A Germans Shepard is a loyal dog that will be good with family and friends that doesn’t turn on his owner but will give his life to protect them. He is the good man women don’t want. They want the junkyard dog that’s mean to everyone and Is unpredictable and dangerous but the exciting. He is the bad boy women want but then cry about when he turns on them. Someone who is mean to everyone but you will turn on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 05:42 PM
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Women want a bad boy that’s loyal to them. It always cracks me up. They get a junk yard dog then act all surprised when it bites the hell out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:36 AM
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It’s because women are terrified of MGTOW. They see it’s making them accountable and letting men see it’s not just them that have been treated badly. A women’s greatest power is men not being able to trade notes so to speak. Growing up I had women do the friends first stuff and try and use me. I always thought it was just me and kept thinking I would find a woman would wouldn’t do this. Then the internet came around and men started taking and were able to share their experiences and realize it’s…
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 06:31 PM
1

Why does that not surprise me that you are in therapy.
/r/MGTOW213/12/20 05:03 PM
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Nothing you can really do to fix it. When I got in my 30s and saw how women really are I became the same way. You get to the point where the big head is now running the show. If a woman is empty, liberal, or just horrible to talk to she can be a 9 and I have zero interest in her. Sex is easy to find and I think that’s part of it. If I want sex I can get it. What’s very hard to find is a woman with a good head on her shoulders who can have a conversation with you. Problem is the really really goo…
/r/askTRP11/12/20 04:54 PM
1

WOW you are projecting some serious internalized hate. Who hurt you ? You need to seek some professional help with your hate and rage issues that you have internalized.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 04:48 PM
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Lol I have no issue with a woman being pregnant or a single mother. I just don’t want date them and most men don’t either. And for the record I have a vasectomy in my early 20s because I don’t want kids and it’s been fun as hell to see how many woman have thought they could try and baby trap me.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 08:27 PM
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They should be ashamed for posting such a inaccurate photo. No single women is that skinny and childless.
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 02:49 AM
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Too many thirsty men who have no self worth.
/r/askTRP28/11/20 03:52 PM
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They are because no one is forcing them not to be. So many man will just chase them. Before this wasn’t the case and forced them to stay in shape. Just like with marriage. They no longer feel like they need to keep in shape.
/r/askTRP28/11/20 12:23 AM
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Women don’t care. They want the man that makes them feel the best. They don’t care if he fakes the test as long as he acts the way they want and has the image they want to be seen with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 09:26 PM
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She was spinning plates. You were NOT her first choice. Ghost her and don’t waste your time.
/r/askTRP18/11/20 09:22 PM
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I want them to treat me the same as they want me to treat them. Problem is most don’t realize or do and want to play it off that they are flirting to use men but then get pissed when they claimed men got the wrong idea. I’m to the point I don’t have friendships with women unless their are family or wives of friends. Just makes life easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:41 PM
2

Don’t ask women out on campus. It’s a good way to find your career grind to a halt.
/r/askTRP09/11/20 05:25 PM
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Boxing them in works the best. It shows you are dominant and forces them to show their hand. Asking them in a beta no pressure way shows them just that, you are a beta and will let them push you around.
/r/askTRP08/11/20 05:35 PM
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She is crazy and is the type that will cost you your freedom. You dodged and bullet. You have a lot of women who play this game to make you think they are not promiscuous and don’t have a high body count. She saw you as a beta and wanted to play the girlfriend game. Had she seen you as a alpha that she just wanted to hook up with she would have had those pants off quick. Life is too short to deal with crazy women.
/r/askTRP08/11/20 05:31 PM
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All of depends on your SMV. If you are a ten they will respond to anything to be honest. If you are lower they won’t respond to much and just take the offer of free coffee or dinner and then ghost. Asking her out ASAP puts her on the spot and makes her show her real feeling and intentions. If she is into you she will accept and be cool with it. If she wants to spin plates and use you she will hesitate and be luke warm. Putting someone on the spot is a tactical move to force them to make a choice…
/r/askTRP07/11/20 02:23 PM
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No, they would say they were in denial and trying to cope mentally by saying it was consensual.
/r/askTRP31/10/20 02:01 AM
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There was a post a while back where a woman said it needs to be criminalized for a man to lie to a woman to get sex. I said what about the women lying to get free dinners and money. She said they were totally different 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:32 AM
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Same with women and love. She doesn’t love you she is just using you said the woman who just wants to use you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:32 PM
1

Women leave their husbands for financial reasons at the drop of a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 10:55 PM
9

I think there is a small minority who are mentally fit for a relationship and have the ability to have self actualization to stay healthy. The biggest issue with relationships today is unapologetic narcissism. Everyone wants the deco stacked in their favor and they don’t care who they hurt or how bad in the quest to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:19 PM
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I don’t care if she is more successful or not. I’ve dated women who made less than more and more than me. My issue is if she has time for a relationship. No one wants to try and have a relationship with someone who is married to their job / career. Men and women date for two different reasons. Women want a man for his status and money. Men want a woman for her looks, youth and fertility. That said women are much more hypergamous than man are. Just look at what happens when a man vs woman in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 07:31 PM
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What changed is I own my own home and have a sailboat I offer to take them out on. I still am the same average guy I was in my 20s and 30s but now I’m established. I also don’t give a rats ass if they reject me. I’ve found the more you don’t care the more they sense it and want to hook up.
/r/askTRP07/10/20 07:54 PM
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Romance and flirting are fun with someone who is actually interested in you and not playing BS games. If you find someone who is truly into you, romance and getting close is wonderful. Sadly so many women have rode the CC for so long that they don’t have that Bailey anymore. Sex is just something for a random thrill is head of bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 05:04 AM
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The red pill isn’t about systemic dating practices. It’s about telling how woman nature is so men don’t get screwed over and used. To imply most people that are red pill are on the spectrum is classic shaming tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:42 AM
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It’s just not worth it. A single mom is nothing but a life of bad choices. They almost always pop out a kid with a man who wouldn’t marry them but for some Rowan they thought having a kid with him was a good idea. I have yet to meet one who isn’t damaged and entitled as hell. They all think they are gods gift and their kids are god sent angels.
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 05:08 AM
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If you have to say “what’s the point of being alpha” you are not a alpha. You are acting and putting on a front to try and get sex. Women can see right through it. Beats don’t get a ton of play. They get used and get some sex but it costs them a ton in time effort and money.
/r/askTRP26/09/20 10:36 PM
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They want to lead so they don’t have to be accountable to you. That’s why women don’t want to date good men. A good man expects them to be a good woman and they don’t want to have to do that. They just want to run the show and say how it is. But at the same time they hate the man for not having a spine. The man in a relationship with a dominate woman is not her first choice. She settled for him and used him for utility value, often for money and or any emotional shoulder.
/r/MGTOW226/09/20 10:34 PM
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Women do it to try and lock down a man. They think it will make them “step up and be a man”. In reality they end up a bitter single mom. They often find a bad boy and try this. But any woman who is willing to have a child with a man who wouldn’t even commit enough to marry her is no woman worth being in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:09 PM
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You judge a woman’s value by what she is willing to put into the dating and relationship process. Make her go 50/50. See if she is willing to cook you dinner and actual talk about interesting things. If you are a man of value, finding a decent woman to causally date isn’t hard. Finding one to have a relationship with is very hard. Most women today are not worth a relationship. It’s a sad truth. They don’t want to offer anything more than sex and looking good yet expect you to take care of them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 06:03 PM
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Yes and it didn’t work long. She wants to be dominate but also will grow to hate you for not being dominate. They will cheat with a dominate man because they want that in bed but don’t want it in the day to day. It’s the classic they don’t know what they want or they want it all.
/r/MGTOW226/09/20 05:56 PM
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When I ask a woman out I tell her what I’m looking for and what I expect, a 50/50 partnership and so both us are honest with our intentions we split the dates. Some women have gone ballistic and tried to shame me about it but most have been open minded. But this works for me because I’m 40, single, no kids, with my own place and life in order. If a woman tells you she wants you to pay for all the dates it means she feels like she is above you and you need to pay for her time. Walk away from wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:06 AM
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Sounds like a post by a woman trying to get men to stay on the plantation. Dating and dealing with the games of women today creates anxiety and insecurity. We are not here to pat men in the back and make them feel warm and fuzzy. We are here to tell men how to not let a woman wreck your life, take your kids, and all your money forcing you to live in a shit home apt like a college kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 03:17 PM
1

Nope I have a solid group of friends who are in the same boat. We go out fishing and hunting all the time. Couple times a week we meet at one of ours houses. We hang out a lot and just enjoy having a beer and watching a movie in the home theater. Life is only as alone as you make it.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 03:14 PM
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I’ve tried it and it never works. They always want a uneven dynamic and try to use you in some way or fashion. Women don’t have men as friends unless there is some gain for them.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 02:39 AM
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Most men think they are the exception and they have found the one true unicorn. They also know how hard it was to find the women they have so figure that the issues and red flags are just part of the price of being married. Some it’s fear of being alone. Not going to lie I was in the camp in my 20s. But for a lot of men the women will come in being hyper sexual and every time she sees that he is noticing a red flag she tries death by snoo snoo. The sex tapering off isn’t an accident. Women know …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:21 PM
1

The technology is coming a long way with warm skin and all types of feedback. There is a reason the women are trying to block them.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 08:05 PM
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It’s really not worth much. The biggest people who fight it are women. Same as with women sex dolls. They see it as a threat to their power and control. Women are more and more realizing that they are losing control over that as men are opting out.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 07:41 PM
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Men are better because they have to do the pursing and have more at stake. A woman just has to be petty and flirt. Also women don’t want to see someone intentions because they are often blinded by their own. How many women think they can make the bad boy settle down? There is a reason men came up with the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 07:37 PM
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Don’t get me wrong I would love to find a woman to share my life and adventures with traveling the world but good loyal woman gave gone the way of the T. rex. That’s what always gets me is when I hear people trying to shame red pill or MGTOW men as selfish who don’t want to have a relationship. That’s the farthest thing from the truth. Most red pill guys I know would love a loyal wife they could trust but so many women today have shown they can’t. I’ve tried dating single childless women and tri…
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 07:10 PM
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The problem with JP is he has never seen it first hand, the real nature of women. Most men who have a wife that hasn’t shown her true colors are the same way. They feel men who are redpill or MGTOW are wimps or spineless.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 02:39 AM
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I agree but having money is security and not having to worry. It makes adventures a lot more fun and you can go for much longer. In 2 years I’m looking at taking a circumnavigation with my sailboat and taking a few years to do it. Just stopping here and there and staying as long as I want. I couldn’t have never save the type of money I need to do this if I was married with kids.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 02:14 AM
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I am in my 40s and very happy I had a vasectomy. I don’t have kids and have zero regret and am very happy with life. Have a career, own my home, money in the bank and looking at retirement in my late 40s. When you are not hemorrhaging money keeping a wife happy and raising kids it’s amazing how much you can save and invest. It amazes me how many keep pushing the bullshit of how unhappy life is going to be without marriage and kids. I’ve seen what it’s don’t to most of my friends and don’t regret…
/r/MGTOW217/09/20 08:41 PM
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You said the key words, loyal wife. I’ve seen so many guys I know who did everything right to be a good father and husband and still had her leave, taking the kids and house. Women are not like the used to be and I would rather be a little lonely than have all I worked for taken from me and left homeless and penny less. Don’t you think most of the red pill guys would love to have a loyal wife and kids ???? Hell yes. But it’s not worth the risk. And trust me it’s far from a lonely existence. I ha…
/r/MGTOW217/09/20 05:04 PM
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The only people who see it creepy or push they narrative is older women to keep men from dating younger. If you are a older man you can get women in their 20s all day long if you have something to offer. If you are good looking or have money they won’t see you as creepy. I have a sailboat and offer to take college girls out and some call me creepy and some take up the offer. A older man dating a younger women is no different than dating one the same age, it’s all about what you have to offer the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:55 PM
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When I was in my 20s my boss told me 2 things that will ensure a man has a happy life. Get a vasectomy and never get married. I’ve followed both and life has been pretty damn good. You can never trust a woman and putting a kid in her or a ring on her finger is putting your life in her hands.
/r/MGTOW217/09/20 02:13 PM
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I can tell you have not seen the dating world from a mans eyes. A lot of women over 25 are single moms and the ones that are not have unrealistic expectations and standards. Don’t get me wrong I would love to find a decent women who has her life in order, no kids, and wants a equal relationship not a sugar daddy but those women are unicorns.
/r/askTRP17/09/20 01:25 AM
1

Because single moms tend to be more promiscuous and easier to get sex from. Most are single moms because of their poor decisions when it comes to sex. Most women in their 30s who don’t have kids either have a very high SMV, have major issues, or are very unattractive. Plus there is a lot more single moms than single women without kids. If you go on any dating site and check no kids, you will see 95 percent of all women are gone. As the old expression goes, lowest hanging fruit.
/r/askTRP17/09/20 01:20 AM
1

Nothing wrong with leading someone on to get sex on a continuous basis. Several of my guy fiends had the same experiences from their 20s with women leading them on so they could use them. Leading on come in many different forms. You can lie and promise the world, you can be vague and noncommittal, or you can bread crumb them. Plenty of single moms lead men on all the time with the “my kid comes first” as a way to be noncommittal but demand their commitment. It’s all about getting what you want w…
/r/askTRP17/09/20 01:09 AM
2

I was being funny with the classic line women always tell men, the classic “who hurt you, you sound hurt”. It was meant with humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:56 AM
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Try being a guy in your 20s and dating. That’s all women do is mess with men’s head to use them and lead them on. But that’s OK right? I’ve lost count as a teen and in my 20s how many women would act interested and play with my head to use me. Women had the upper hand in their 20s with dating and playing games. Now they get to be on the receiving end of it. They could have settled down with a good man in their 20s but chose to play games and now have to deal with the dating market in their 30s a…
/r/askTRP16/09/20 11:40 PM
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Avoid them both. I’m 40 and I would rather be single than have to deal with a single mom and her crotch fruit that “always comes first”. And any woman who demands kids from a man that’s over 30 is nothing but trouble and damaged. She spent her 20s riding the CC instead of finding a decent man. So now she wants to settle with beta bux and get his stupid ass to put a kid in her so she can divorce grape him. Hell to the no.
/r/askTRP16/09/20 10:42 PM
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Single moms are fun to chase / gas up their head for some good pump and dump. Any man who actually wants to have a LTR with a single mom is a total simp. But when it comes to easy sex a single mom is the best way to go. Just lead them on a bit then get the pump and dump. Most use the tactic of giving you some unreal sex at first thinking it will blind you to the mess you are walking into. So use that to your advantage then disappear like a fart in the wind.
/r/askTRP16/09/20 10:10 PM
2

It’s not. Marriage is nothing more than a business arrangement. He promises to work hard and she promised to give him sex all the time and a family. Marriage used to be a 2 sided agreement. They met in their early 20s and got married. He would bust his ass to buy and home and she would give him kids. He got to enjoy her youth and beauty and in exchange he would be the bread winner and take care of them. She would stand by his side and build a life with him and they would grow old together. But w…
/r/MGTOW216/09/20 10:07 PM
2

That make you feel better? Here is something that isn’t opinion. Women are on a lot more anti depressants than men. Geee I wonder why ? Could it be the result of poor life choices. https://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20170815/us-antidepressant-use-jumps-65-percent-in-15-years “Women are twice as likely as men to take antidepressant medication (16.5 percent compared with 8.6 percent). Women are more likely than men to take antidepressants in every age group.” https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/11…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:02 PM
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Feminist women are more depressed because they find out they cannot have everything feminism told they could. But like I said over 30 married men are more depressed and single women are more depressed. A single man over 30 is going up hill in SMV and a single woman over 30 is going down hill in SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:41 PM
2

Yes but you cannot be into both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:39 PM
1

I’m guessing you are a bitter woman who can’t get a man to commit lol. Men are drawn to the red pill because they don’t want to get screwed over by the courts. Most red pill talks about women nature like the pattern we see today where they just hook up with alphas in their 20s then feel the need to settle with a man when they hit 30. And since they settled they end up leaving him, taking his kids, and making him pay for it all. That’s the root of the red pill. I’m not looking for low commitment …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:31 PM
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The red pill isn’t about showing how to spin plates. It’s about the under stand the nature of women and not to let them use you or trap you. Example is I don’t tell women I’ve had a vasectomy on propose. I just tell them I don’t want kids. I’ve dated a few women who swore they didn’t want kids but I could tell they were trying to get preg so bad. I just had to smile and enjoy the sex. Had one after a few months hit me telling me she was pregnant and we needed to get married. I told her she was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:01 AM
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That’s BS. It’s easy to find one person as special when you stop with the fear of missing out or shopping for a better deal. There is plenty of good people out there but most have FOMO and can not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:54 AM
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Over 30, Married men tend to be more depressed than married women. Single women tend to be more depressed than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:43 AM
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A man playing the field isn’t nearly as much fun as a woman. It’s much harder for a man and unless he is a top 20 percent man he isn’t going to play the field. A woman unless she is hideous has no issue racking up a huge body count and using men. As a guy I’m not going to get in a LTR with a woman who spent her 20s giving her best years away to random men. If she was married and got divorced that’s different but why should I give my best years to a someone who didn’t want to give me theirs. Besi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:43 AM
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Sounds like someone hit a nerve :). Most women make their own problems and trauma. Dating bad boys and getting pregnant not being married. Then hating men because they don’t want to date a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:34 AM
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I’m not crying about women. I’m very happy with my life. But I see those women who wanted to “date around” in their 20s and wouldn’t give me the time of day now act like they are doing me a favor by offering to date me. They get furious when I tell them hell no. I didn’t have kids and focused on myself and I enjoy the hell out of my life. I didn’t let a woman drain my savings or control me. When I want sex I just take a college girl out on the sailboat and have a nice romp at anchor that evening…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:33 AM
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Yes but most women self inflect a lot of the trauma they have by selecting bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:16 AM
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What I wrote was correct, sorry if the truth hurts. Single women in their 30s have much higher rates of depression than men do. They feel the end of their fertility window closing, want a family, and realize it’s not going to happen. A single man in his 30s is entering the prime of his sexual market value. He has a career, money, and security. He has everything that attracts a woman. A woman on the other hand in her 30s is on the down hill slide of her sexual market value and she knows it. She c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:15 AM
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You said it best at the end. A woman can force herself to be loyal because she wants a LTR with the man but the sex will suffer and it will make the relationship fail. I think women who have destroyed their pair bonding should date a man who has done the same but they won’t. I’ve had this talk with women and they feel the same way about the man not being able to pair bond but feel they are the exception. But pair bonding aside I don’t want anything to do with a woman who thinks casual sex is ok.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:39 AM
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Yes I feel that once a woman has hit the point of burning that part of her brain out she can never be faithful. I don’t want anything to do with women like that anyways. If she just enjoys giving it away causally then why should I feel special when she gives it to me? The only real difference between a really good friendship and a relationship is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:08 AM
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Sadly once you open your eyes you can’t unsee the real nature of women. Being 40 now I am amazed at how immature and narcissistic women have become. Don’t get me wrong, women played games back when I was younger but not like today. They don’t even try and hide it anymore. The best option is to just focus on yourself, get a vasectomy, and if a nice woman happens to come along vet her carefully and don’t ever get married to her.
/r/askTRP16/09/20 12:11 AM
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It is possible if you stand your ground from the start and be willing for her to walk away. Tell her how it is and what you want. She will either say yes or walk. But you cannot give her any power or leverage or else she will change things. No marriage or kids. Have a cohabitation agreement and get a vasectomy. The guys I know who manage to keep their life the way it is after getting into a LTR all did this. The biggest is no kids and no marriage. Nothing in her name and make her keep her job. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:51 PM
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It means it’s time to leave the UK.
/r/MGTOW215/09/20 11:44 PM
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If they want to have sex quickly it means it’s not special and has little value to them. For a woman to be willing to share her body with you quickly it means she has done that before quickly. Someone who feels sex is very special and doesn’t share it with just everyone, takes time to vet a man to see if he is just trying to get sex. Women understand this which is why you see them talk about waiting if they want a LTR with the man vs just having a one night stand if they just want sex. They know…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:43 PM
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It’s far from urban legends and junk science. I can post tons of articles and studies that have found a major link between promiscuous behavior and unhappiness in a LTR. Women get addicted to the attention and excitement of being promiscuous. I mean let’s be honest, being a LTR for a young woman isn’t as much fun as being single and dating around is. She can have tons of men fawning over her, spending money on her, and competing for her. When she gets into a LTR all that stops. She can’t be flir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:28 PM
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How many people have you slept with and how old are you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:09 PM
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People are creatures of habit that’s why we have credit ratings. I’ve know plenty who cheated even though all their needs were being met just because they missed the thrill of a new person. Someone who has shown over and over that sex is just a meaningless act they can do with someone they just met is going to have a very hard time being faithful. Their reasons for all the casual sex (validation, attention, the rush, emotional damage, etc) are not going to change because they are in love with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:09 PM
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My issue is once someone has had so many partners the thrill and excitement isn’t about sex it self but it’s about sex with someone new. We have all heard the old saying about someone needing some “strange”. One a woman has hit a certain point, sex to her is no longer about bonding but the thrill of someone new. This is why I feel they can’t be faithful. And in all fairness men too. It’s like any act in life that has some stigma to it. Look at killers, robbers, and any other type of crime. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:06 PM
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I agree and I’m the same way. I’ve had women send me nudes after a first date and want to have sex after a date or two. It tells me they have a low bar and they can’t bond anymore. I also like to hold off and bet someone as long as I feel they are putting in the same effort. Sadly I’ve met several women who get mad and tell me they are not going to waste time dating me to find out I have a small dick, bad at sex, etc. But that’s ok it tells me they are not someone that’s LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 07:28 PM
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Get some fake glasses that are trendy frames. I know one friend who has the same issue and battled with it his whole life. He finally found a decent woman who looked passed it. So you can see it as a test to see if she is very shallow. But recommend the trendy frames with just clear lenses. Many people with strabismus ( lazy eye) do this.
/r/MGTOW215/09/20 06:38 PM
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Was married for ten years and got divorced. Started dating and quickly saw the same games and female nature on display. Had several women who didn’t want anything to do with me suddenly calling and wanting to hook up now that I was single and had a house and good career. But they had nothing to offer but mental damage from riding the CC and several had kids. Realized how things where when I asked one of the women why she wants a relationship with me now and she said she wasn’t ready back then. I…
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 10:10 PM
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It’s about shaming and control.
/r/MGTOW208/09/20 12:18 AM
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We all have had this. The ex that leaves you for someone else suddenly wants you to help them out because they think they can still use those feelings against you. They will come in and be flirty and give you some sex and use you again.
/r/MGTOW206/09/20 03:01 AM
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You are making excuses saying women act the way they do because of men. Women refuse to have any agency. Any time I talk about women just faking interest to use men for dinner I always get the same from women that you said. “Oh it’s the dating sites, type of women I chose, it’s all the mans fault”. But when I post study after study that women openly admit to this they use men for free dinners even coining the term “foodie call” it’s till some how a mans fault. Going up I had women give me the “l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 01:24 AM
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Once again there you go saying it’s all Mens fault and women are helpless. Take responsibility for your own actions. Most women hear what they want to hear from men or think they can fix him. I’ve had female friends that I’ve warn about guys they went out with and they just would say stuff like oh your are jealous or you don’t see him they way I do. Then a month later the tears because he used her and hooked up with someone else. Take responsibility for your own issues. That’s why men are going …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 12:56 AM
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Of course you can tell if a man is lying to get in your pants, don’t let him in your pants so quick. I lost count how many women I’ve heard say oh I’m not going to waste time on him to find out he has a small dick or the sex is bad. But yes it’s easy to see through the lies if you actually date / court for a time rather than have sex after a week or two. But most women in this instant gratification society don’t want to put in work to get to know a man. Easy way to avoid the problems with men te…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 12:16 AM
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Typical women saying it’s my fault because of the websites, company I keep, etc. When women bitch about men cheating on them etc and we say it’s the men you are picking y’all go ballistic saying it’s all men because they don’t want to take responsibility for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:46 PM
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I don’t care what all hoops you have gone through. All it takes is a feminist judge which most are. They can invalidate it for any number of reasons like she didn’t realize y’all would accumulate such assets, she didn’t understand what would happen if the marriage didn’t work, she didn’t plan for it not to work. Also a prenup doesn’t help you with alimony.
/r/MGTOW205/09/20 10:06 PM
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Women stop maturing when they starting getting attention and resources from men and don’t need to mature to handle life. They only start to mature when they hit the age that men stop giving them attention and resources. You see the same thing in child actors. They don’t have to deal with any of life’s challenges so they don’t mature. That’s why we see so many have temper fits of very small things. Women are no different. If you look you will find the unattractive women tend to be more grounded i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 09:47 PM
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Seen plenty of prenups voided by judges saying a woman didn’t understand the true nature of it etc. The only way to keep her from getting anything is no marriage, nothing joint, and don’t ever ever let her help with your bills like mortgage, taxes, light bill, etc because it will give her a way to try and say she put equity in.
/r/MGTOW205/09/20 09:35 PM
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It all depends on when you get time to see your significant other vs your friends and if those times over lap. I don’t have a huge amount of friends so I’ve found that it’s not hard to keep friends if you have a understanding significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 09:31 PM
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For a man to be happy he needs to adopt the attitude of women, be selfish and narcissistic. Focus on your own needs and happiness. For too long men’s happiness has been placed on pleasing women and keeping the great mechanics of society running. But we have seen how men are being rewarded today. So for a man to be happy he needs to put himself first. If he meets a woman that wants to be in his life he needs to make it clear that his needs come first. After all if a man doesn’t make his needs com…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:19 PM
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They have done many studies from mental health to ability to commit. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201304/the-long-term-psychological-effects-multiple-sex-partners
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:25 AM
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Pretty much most relationships today are some form of prostitution. Women wanting to know what kinda money they make and job they have. She wants to know what type of lifestyle he can give her. It’s a quid pro quo. She gives him sex and he gives her a nice house car and spending money. Just watch what happens when he gets demoted or loses his job. She will be gone monkey branching in a New York minute if her SMV is still high enough. Good friend of mine was married for 15 years. We always played…
/r/MGTOW204/09/20 12:23 AM
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Most women don’t find morality attractive. They reward the bad behavior with sex. I’ve lost count how many women I’ve seen go crazy for a ex con with no future but push away all the good stable men. Then of course they sit back and cry about there not being any good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:18 AM
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I won’t date a woman with a high number and yes it’s easy to tell if she is lying. A woman with a high number will never be faithful. She has destroyed her ability to pair bond. Her sexual craving is the excitement of someone new not someone she loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 07:53 PM
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Yes they do. BFFs provide testimony all the time in court. They don’t look at the relationship to the victim unless there is a reason for gain. Might want to read up on it a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 07:39 PM
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Yup, damn thing has lips like a Venus fly trap it means it’s time to run.
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 06:41 PM
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When she pulls down her shorts and you hear that voice “Arby’s, we have the meats”.
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 06:37 PM
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Just because she has a few fiends who say he said XYZ doesn’t mean it’s true. Women will lie for each other all the time. My ex would lie for her friends so they could sneak out and have an affair and they would do the same for her. Unless it’s a recording or secure email it can’t be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:37 PM
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That’s where I am at in life. I am 40 and worked my ass off. Almost lost it to a divorce but luckily my dad told me if I didn’t get a prenup I was out of the will. I thought he was being a cranky old man but I got one and it saved my house and my retirement. There is too many to do and see in this world without worrying about making a woman in your life happy. If she wants to tag along and pay her own way that’s great but women tend to not be open to that till after that hit the wall at warp spe…
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 06:35 PM
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I don’t know about that. I bet plenty of women would lie about how many men they have slept with, how many they are dating at the time, or are they single. This would put a major end to women monkey branching. Just ask her if she is single and how long as she been single via text message and save it. Once you find out otherwise which you will, you hit them with charges. But as soon as women start getting hit with this law they will get it stopped or try to get it to only apply to men because ya …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:09 PM
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Worlds full of them. They wasted their 20s “finding themselves” or being a “free sprint”. Suddenly they are in their 30s and the attention from men starts to drop big time. So they try and use the last of their good years to get their hooks into a man then divorce him because “I’m not happy” and takes all his stuff. Women today don’t want to find a good man in college and build a life with him. They want to sleep around in their 20s and then stand at the finish line and hook up with the winners …
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 06:07 PM
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I fully agree. I just tell women I’m self employed and have a house. Anything after that isn’t their business until we get serious. It’s really easy to spot a gold digger. They get really pissy and pushy. Had one tell me she was into doctors and lawyers but it’s not about the money. She said it was about having a educated man who could talk at a high level. I told her I have two advanced degrees but wouldn’t tell her what I do or what I make till we get serious. She threw a fit when she realized…
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 05:55 PM
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Lol such a double standard. As a man I would not sleep with a woman with a high body count or one who is in a relationship. As a man with my life in order I’ve had women I’ve been out on dates with try to get me in bed to manipulate me. If they were married or had a high body count I wouldn’t touch them. Your double standard is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:14 PM
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Women have always made sex a commodity. Remember back when women told young girls “don’t give it away”. Now women have seen how the hook up culture and easy sex has backfired on them. The marriage rate has fallen and men don’t want to marry because it doesn’t offer any benefit to them but plenty to women. Women always like to remind men they are the gatekeepers of sex. But they often forget men are the gate keepers of commitment and marriage. I was with a group of friends the other day and was s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:09 PM
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I’m curious are you male or female and how old ? What level of lie should we consider the level of criminal act ? If he says he owns the BMW he is driving when it’s really a lease ? What about if she says she is single but has a BF ? What about if she says she is single but still married? Or what about if she lies about her body count or says she has a IUD but doesn’t? If she gets pregnant and you show text messages that she lied and said she had a IUD we should charge her with sexual assault an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:01 PM
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There was actually a lawsuit over that. A man sued his wife after they had very ugly kids. He found out that she had done massive amounts of plastic surgery to make her look totally different. The kids looked like she did before surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:35 PM
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LOL figured you wouldn’t have much of a response for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:33 PM
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It’s a lot more common than you think. I’ve had tons of women over the years online hit me up acting all interested in meeting and getting to know me. They push the idea of dinner and I say how about coffee or something like that. They push dinner again then when I say ok but we can go Dutch they call me cheap and other kinds of shaming tactics. You responded as most women do “oh I don’t know any women who would do such a thing, must be the company you keep”. More shaming tactics and trying to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:22 PM
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Does it have to be dinner ? I like to take women out to things where we can walk and talk. Normally my first date is coffee and after that it’s a date at the museum. It gives us a chance to walk and talk and get to know each other. I won’t take a woman out to dinner until the third date. I don’t have a issue spending money on a woman but only after I have see that she is really interested. But it’s not about the money, it’s about being used and taken advantage of. Also when dating and in a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:11 PM
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Well if they find out he lied about that big job or college degree. https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/4w5w7g/is-lying-to-get-laid-a-form-of-sexual-assault
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 02:54 PM
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The problem is plenty of women will fake interest to get a free dinner. They have even done surveys on it. It’s even for a name, a foodie call. Instead of money which some guys have a ton of so it’s not really a “test” why don’t you look at the level of interest and equity put in. Does he call you on the phone, not a text here and there but actually talk to you? If a woman won’t have at least a 30 minute conversation with me on the phone (voice) I won’t bother taking her out because I know I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:45 PM
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$50 adds up quick. Let’s say you do a online first date every weekend that’s $200 a month. Anyone who objects to coffee or something cheap as a first date isn’t there to meet the person. They are there for the dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:51 PM
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Typical you don’t have a leg to stand on so you run off. Good luck trying to get a guy of any value to date you for ten years. Men are not stupid and he is going to know what you are trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:49 AM
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I never once said I was a alpha did I ? Nope. I enjoy my life and have a good life. If I find a woman of quality who wants to share life with me and travel that’s great. But if not that’s cool also. I have a few friends that like to travel and we go scuba dive and bag pack in some awesome places around the world. And I have no illusion that I am a alpha that the girls are after. But I do have a nice big sailboat and there is no shortage of college girls who want to enjoy a weekend out and the ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:46 AM
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I am self employed and enjoy my life. It’s allowed me to travel the world, own my own home, and have a nice retirement. You keep making excuses but the bottom line is if you really loved him you would get married. You can fool everyone else but you are not getting married and want to date for 10 years to keep your options open. I don’t need to cope with anything. I enjoy my life and am having fun with this discussion watching you keep trying to explain how you are a unicorn. But keep on 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:40 AM
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You want to date him for ten years so you can keep your options open. Men today are not that stupid. If he is such a good catch why date for 10 years ? No other reason but to keep options open. A good woman marries and commits to that man early on so y’all both can support each other. So tell me why would you date for ten years ? Why not get married if he is such a good catch ? It’s just a piece of paper and has no bearing on life outside of commitment to each other ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:35 AM
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I never said I don’t put any effort into dating. You keep trying to twist my words. I said I just don’t take them out to dinner. Do I take them out on my sailboat and cook them a very nice expensive dinner with wine and such, yes. They know the quid pro quo and I am happy to keep up my end just like they are. I am just not going to take a woman out to a $50 or $100 dinner unless I know they are actually interested and have put in some effort like taking to me on the phone or something like that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:26 AM
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They are orbiting you for sex not for commitment. That’s the most common mistake women you age make. Y’all think your SMV is the same as your RMV. You keep telling me you have everything to land a great man doesn’t make it true. Just because you look in the mirror each day and say I’m a hottie doesn’t make it so. You attack about the type of college girls I hook up with shows how bitter and insecure you are. You can’t stand what I’m saying so you have to paint me as some villain who can only get…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:06 AM
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Keep telling yourself that. There are tons of women just like you who all think they have what it takes to land a great man. You obviously have a overinflated self opinion and that’s going to bite you in the butt. But keep on telling me I don’t have what it takes. I’m perfectly happy with my life and enjoy telling other men how to to avoid women like you :) But keep on telling yourself you will get a great man. I’ll think about you when I’m out on my boat with a cute college girl 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:53 AM
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From the way you talk you are not going to find to many good alpha men who put up with women that have your type of views on things. As soon as you start taking about rape culture it makes men tune out unless you are looking for a left leaning Bernie sanders soy boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:34 AM
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I am looking for a long term but not going to just sit around and not have any sex. Women have been doing the same thing for years when they say I’ve been single but dating around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:31 AM
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“Educated on gender dynamics”. That’s all I needed to hear to know how you think. Between that and your other postings I can tell your political leanings. Odds are you are not going to find a good leftish man. Oh wait what’s this... https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/01/9244509/laurence-fox-anti-woke-meaning https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/50106/1/men-are-wokefishing-women-by-pretending-to-be-feminists-on-dating-apps?amp=1 I do the woke thing with the girls I take out on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:29 AM
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Lol I’m not worried at all. I enjoy my life and anytime I want some good sex I just find a college girl who wants to go out sailing and take her out for a nice weekend of sailing and fun :) Plenty of college girls want to go sailing and learn to sail so I take them out and in exchange get some good college girl sex. Lemme tell ya that boat is the best money I’ve spent. If I don’t find a woman for a LTR I’m good with that. I would rather be single than have a women who’s rode the CC all her like,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:26 AM
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Bring out the shaming and name calling tactics. Typical women who is sacred of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:22 AM
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Free dinners is the point of the topic. Go back and look at my original post. It’s why I don’t take women out to dinner dates😉
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:21 AM
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Lol you know you can’t win this argument so you just throw a fit. It’s ok, it hurts to not have a leg to stand on but you just keep sawing at the branch you are sitting on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:19 AM
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What does this have to do with women using men for free dinners. You are doing a typical tactic with trying to change the subject. It’s been well documented women use men and fake interest for free dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:19 AM
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Nope they don’t. They eat their food then they say they have to go. Women most commonly do this on weeknight so they can say “oh look at the time. I have to go I have a early meeting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:14 AM
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And I guess Newsweek isn’t a reputable source either eh ? https://www.newsweek.com/foodie-calls-women-dates-free-meals-personality-trait-1445156
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:13 AM
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Let me add another from a female point of view. https://medium.com/@vanessatorre/women-who-make-foodie-calls-have-ruined-everything-61240c1586fb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:12 AM
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There is far more than one article on this topic. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/201909/the-psychology-the-foodie-call
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:11 AM
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That 1 in 4 has been so debunked. Look at what they scored as rape. If she was drunk, if she wanted to say no but didn’t, If she regretted it the next day or felt pressured but didn’t say no, etc. That was a study that was designed to get the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:03 AM
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Sex isn’t the only thing I care about. Did you not see the rest of what I posted? Seen plenty of women who act like the sweet women giving sex, keeping the clean, cooking dinner, staying in shape, and just being a sweet pleasure to be around. But once they are moved in and married or have a kid they know he can’t just open the door and say get out. So she uses sex to manipulate him, stops doing the things she did before, etc. So if you take away her leverage she knows she can’t change or else it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:59 AM
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You realize they said one third of all women that responded. We are not talking about a small part of the population. And this is only the number of women who admitted it. I’m sure most who do it won’t admit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:55 AM
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This all came out in two new survey studies from University of California Merced. Turns out those same women also scored high in psychopathy and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:40 AM
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I guess this news station just made it up also eh ? https://6abc.com/foodie-calls-free-dinner-dating-for/5361935/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:39 AM
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I have no issue with FDS one way or the other. I have no issue putting effort into dating at all. But what you are calling effort is money. Too many women openly admit to faking interest in men to get a free dinner or entertainment. All I do is take the financial incentive out of dating for dinner. I still put in plenty of effort with making the first move, communicating, planning interesting dates etc. But when a woman says a man have to put in effort and all she is talking about is money that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:27 AM
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If the red pill and MGTOW as just BS and lies then why do so many women attack it, try to get their content taken down, etc. Women are scared men will wake up and not let treat them the way they have. Up until recently women could just say “I’m not happy” and pull the escape lever, file for divorce, and take the house and the kids and make him pay for all of it. More and more men are opting not to get married and not have kids. It’s just not worth letting a woman have that kinda control. I was m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:54 PM
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I never said I didn’t have money. I’m not a millionaire but I own my own home, am self employed, with a nice car and a boat. I meet college girls who just want a good time and I take the out sailing and have some hook up fun. Most college girls are happy just to be taken out sailing for the weekend. They get to lay out on the deck and get a nice tan then when it’s night time we get to have some fun out at anchor. I guess you haven’t seen the studies about sexual market value and being 21 don’t k…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:29 PM
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Most of the women I meet that are my age want marriage so not sure where you get your info from. But I am guessing you haven’t read up about sexual market value in men vs women. Women have their prime at 19 and it goes down. The value they have is youth, fertility, and beauty. Men have their peak in their late 30s. They have their life in order and security. I’ve met a lot of women dating who want that security but have nothing to offer. They have a ton of baggage and expect men to still treat t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 10:55 PM
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If it’s all about her and not about the attention, why do women not want their men going to the club and the same with men with their women? Let’s not kid ourselves. Women go to get free drinks and make find someone to hook up with. Men do the same. That’s why you won’t find any man or woman of quality that’s in a relationship going to the clubs. After all ladies would you let your man go to the club looking his best just to “dance and have fun”? Of course not because you know what all the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 09:52 PM
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Women today are far from rejecting marriage and commitment. Why do you think we have so many single moms? They tried to get commitment from a man and he said nope. I have no issue with chivalry. I open doors, pull out chairs, I show them I am a gentleman but at the same time I make it clear I’m looking for a partner not someone to support/ sugar baby. At this point in life I am 40 and date women around my age. I don’t have kids nor do I want them. So a woman can’t act like that’s value she bring…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 09:50 PM
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Why not dance in your living room? What does a club offer you that staying home with your own booze and safety doesn’t? I mean you can have cheap drinks at home, don’t have to worry about getting your drink spiked or how you get home if your drunk. There is no real reason to go if not for attention. And let’s take this further, why dress up in a sexy outfit like almost every woman does? Your gal friends don’t care if you are looking sexy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:31 PM
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Yup the women worth a LTR are after what they can have and by the time they realize that are not going to lock down a chad or alpha, they are way damaged and not good for anything but causal sex. Women give their best years away to causal sex and chasing a alpha. Then when they finally wake up in their 30s they expect those good men they pushed away to still be waiting to wife them up. Women ask all the time what changed. Women are what changed. Before they would meet a good man in college and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:29 PM
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They have hundreds of matches but it’s not hard to figure out the good men if they really want to. Back before OKC went to the “female friendly” model were you could send them a message without them liking you it was easy. They just had to put something in the middle of their bio that says “put this as your first line and tell me about your favorite trip, car, etc”. She would look at the headers and see if they put those key words in to know if they took the time to read her bio or just liked he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:03 PM
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A concert is not a club. A concert you are going to hear a band. That’s your purpose for going is to hear the band you have been listening to on the radio. A club is mostly recorded music with a DJ playing it. You can get the same effect in your living room with most internet steaming channels. I’ve watched and talked to plenty of women who go to bars and clubs and they all get very defensive when asked this question because they know the real reason. Just like why any decent married women doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:58 PM
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Why go to a club and dance when you and your friends could do that in your living room? I hear women say this all the time. “Oh we don’t go to the club for male attention, we just go to have fun”. That’s the biggest line of BS. Women go to get attention from men and have them drinks. When you ask a woman why do you and your fiends just do this in the safety of your house and they all say “oh it’s just not the same”. You can try and spin it all you want but women don’t go to clubs just to “have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:53 PM
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You are trying to play worst case, “yucky married co worker hitting on her at work”. I’ve seen plenty of women at bars and clubs respond very nasty and insultingly to a man who isn’t up to get standards who nicely asks if he can buy her a drink or just tries to talk to her. I’ve had women tell me they feel they have to respond this way to save their image and it makes them feel better about themselves. Women in those places like bars and clubs go there for only one reason and that’s male attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 07:48 PM
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Not a MGTOW by any means. Just know how the game is played and won’t play unless I know I can win :). Women are far from wonderful. They really don’t serve a purpose outside of making kids. And as someone who doesn’t have nor want kids I am not going to bring a woman into my life unless she adds value and brings something more than sex to the table. Men are the ones who build the world. Women just ride on men’s backs and manipulate them to use them for resources. But I take the Donovan Sharpe ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:53 PM
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He knows how to use the gold diggers. I bet you he had a vasectomy and just leads them on for sex 👍
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 06:45 PM
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That is not what’s been proven over and over with today’s women. If a guy is nice and causally asked a woman out or to dinner and she is not interested most women react with hostility and feel insulted that a man who was clearly not at her level would try and ask her out. They have even looked at the psychology of it. She feels insulted and threatened by the aspect of men below her sexual market value hitting on her. Her reaction of repudiation and disgust is to prove to anyone around her social…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:44 PM
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They are only hostile if you are not a hot guy who is 6’ or taller. If you are what they are looking for they will be very receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:02 PM
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This post is so full of inaccuracies. Women’s standards have increased but their sexual market value to get those hasn’t. It’s like the old saying champagne taste on a beer budget. They may have tons of men in their inbox but most are not what they want and the high value men don’t want anything more than a hook up. A man of high sexual market value isn’t online hitting on women. They come to him and flirt and chase him. They are the same as always about being hit on in public. If it’s a unattra…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:00 PM
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To say someone is a “loser” if they can’t get sex is a insult. Some men have issues with weight or just socially shy. Doesn’t make them a loser, just means they have issues. I would love to have a good quality women in my life who wants to share the journey with me, but I don’t NEED a woman. It’s funny how when women say they don’t need a man they are praised for being strong and empowered but when men say they don’t need a woman they are a loser? What’s so bad about a man wanting to just focus …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:35 PM
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Gotta throw in some name calling with the “loser” comment eh ? Men don’t need sex. That’s the great part about getting into you late 30s, your little head doesn’t control your big head anymore. Sex is nice don’t get me wrong but it’s not hard to get and I’m not going to let a woman use me or make my life hell to get it. I’m not going to give her any way to control me or have leverage over me. There are needs in life but sex isn’t a need. It’s something that makes it nice and enjoyable but not at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:08 PM
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The problem is a lot of those educated women have massive self entitlement issues. Most of them come out of college with a feminist attitude. Trust me I’ve tried to date a few. A woman with a graduate level degree that’s attractive and single is single for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:46 PM
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Men don’t NEED sex. They want sex and it’s easy to get in the hook up culture today. Remember how they used to tell women “don’t give it away”? That was because once they did they have no more power. I don’t need validation. Like I’ve said now that I’m in my 40s with my life in order those women who didn’t want to settle down and needs to “find themselves” are coming back and trying to “offer me” the chance to have them as a GF. When I tell them nope they get furious and give me all the shaming …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:44 PM
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I have zero issue finding women to hook up with so not a incel by any means but your use of the word try try and shame me tells me all I need to know about you. I’m not whining about it at all just stating how to avoid low value women. Any woman who wants a man to prove he is of value needs to be willing to do the same for a man. These days of a woman standing on a pedestal and have a man beg for her is gone. In the days of hookup culture men can get sex easy. So if a woman wants a LTR from me s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:11 PM
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When you are in your 20s it’s not going to work but when you are like me in your early 40s it does. They have seen the attention drop off big time I look at it this way. If it doesn’t work no biggy it means I just enjoy my life without having to deal with a entitled women who would make my life miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:06 PM
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Donovan Sharpe who is black said it best. His women are the lowest on the SMV list because of attitude. They will try everything to make make themselves look good expect have a nice attitude and be willing to cook and clean.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 02:36 AM
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I’ve tried a lot of different methods and approaches. On my profile I even tell them I want to court a lady and get to know her before it gets intimate. But part of that is making sure they are there for the same reasons I am. Explain my logic and I have gotten some good and some very negative responses (mostly trying to shake me). But the women I’ve met who have been willing to date with equity have been pleasant and enjoyable on dates but just didn’t click or had differences on life goals. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 01:16 AM
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I gave up on Tinder because of the shallow type of interactions. It’s set up as a hook up site. The best site I had luck on was OKC till they got “woke”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 01:07 AM
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Easy you look for the one that actually put some effort of more than a one or two line message. When I used to date on OKC I would read their profile and send them a couple of paragraphs showing them I read their profile and just giving them some details about me. Most women never responded but a few did. The ones who would actually trade a few messages back and forth with more than just a line or two I would take out to dinner. Look for someone who is going to put in the effort. Also don’t wast…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 01:03 AM
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If he is taking the time to go on dates with you, talk in the phone, get to know you, and wait on sex, how does that not show you he feels you are special? Because he wants you to pay half you are not special? Let’s flip this around. You said women get hit on all day so why should he feel special ? The world is different today. Women have broken the social contact and now have to accept how things have changed. If you want a man to put in the time and effort to court you and get to know you, it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 12:44 AM
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Typical feminist response. “I want equality but I deserve special treatment reasons”. You can try that when your 20 and hot but once you hit 30s and 40s where men have the upper hand you will be in for a shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 03:00 AM
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If you want to give back why it adopt? There is plenty kids who need someone to give back. You are trying to hide your desire to have a generic child with the guise of selfless altruism. If you truly wanted to give back you would adopt.
/r/MGTOW201/09/20 02:53 AM
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These are not arbitrary rules that I just came up with. They are a result of dating off and on for last 20 years. I’ve seen the patterns and learned to recognize manipulative behavior and how to put a stop to it. Waiting it self is not necessarily manipulation. But when a woman outright puts a time line and conditions it absolutely is. When a woman does this she is testing to see if you will let her manipulate you with conditional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:49 AM
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Yes a few weeks. If she goes longer than a month it means it’s time to move on because she isn’t sexually attracted to you or wants to use it as a means to manipulate you. Either way it’s time to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:32 AM
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If she has sex on the first date it means she has zero emotional attachment to sex and that means she can cheat with little effort and she has a high body count. A woman that needs a emotional connection won’t cheat as easy and odds are hasn’t slept with a ton of men. If a guy is ok with her having a ton of partners that’s fine for him. But I’ve dated women who have and they are not able to bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:30 AM
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The old fashion way. You go on a few dates, get to know each other and it happens after a few weeks normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:26 AM
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Because it’s not nearly the same at all. A woman has full and final control. She can get an abortion or put up for adoption. But if she messes with his BC he has zero say and is on the hook for 18 years of child support. Women have far more incentive and baby trap far more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:18 AM
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You signed on the social contract most women don’t want to today. You gave him your best years in exchange for a life long commitment. Today women want to give their best years to lots of men while “dating around” in their 20s. Then suddenly in their early 30s they see that attention wane and they suddenly want the good man and husband. But it doesn’t work that way. If a woman gave her best years to other people she needs to present her self as having value as a partner. A man in his 40s can get…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:16 AM
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I never said my main goal is sex. But I also don’t want a woman who is going to set terms on sex. Any time I’ve dated a woman who made sex conditional it ended with her trying to manipulate me by withholding it. But at the same level any woman who will have causal sex proves she has zero attachment to sex. So if a woman right off the bat sets a time table on sex I’m gone because it shows her intentions. Now if she said she wanted to court and cook me dinner when I took her out to dinner and so o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:12 AM
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It works for what I am looking for. Most men today don’t want to support a woman. They are looking for a woman who will bring the same to the relationship. This type of dating ensures that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:07 AM
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If a woman is ok with casual while looking for a long term it tells me she has a high body count and isn’t worth a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:48 AM
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You might want to read my posting about having a vasectomy. I’ve had women who promised me big time there didn’t want kids and where on the pill or had a IUD but get furious after we had hooked up a few times when I told them I had a vasectomy. They were trying to baby trap me big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:48 AM
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Keep telling yourself that. For a while when I was in a local Facebook club the women were hooking up all the time. The guys have a secret group and we would compare notes. Most of the women were bed hoppers. Anyone who tries to tell me women don’t have a strong sex drive is either a mornon or full of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:46 AM
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I’m not looking for a feminist. I’ve tried dating them and I would rather put my dick in a meat grinder. Also I am not looking for a Netflix and chill woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:44 AM
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If red pill dating went mainstream women would have to pull their own weight and not get to use sex as a way to get resources from men. Red pill terrifies women which is why they attack it so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:18 AM
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Well that maybe worked for you at that age but at 40 I know my worth and what I can offer. If she doesn’t want to offer the same she can move on. I’m not looking to support a woman, I want a partner. No woman’s looks and sex are worth supporting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:42 PM
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If you have a IUD or implant he can’t. Stop grasping at straws and trying to make far fetched arguments. Far more men are trapped by women than a man ever had a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:40 PM
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You need to pull your head out of the sand. Women have been doing stuff like this for ages. They move in and quit their job or get married and stop giving sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:39 PM
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Actually no it’s not my main goal. It’s nice to have while I am looking for something long term. After women have been doing this method of dating for years so why not men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:28 PM
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You hit the nail in the head. Most women expect just them being there is adding value. By that logic of expecting men to pay they feel their time is more valuable than mine so that’s why I have to pay. That maybe back in our 20s but I’m 40 with a good career and my life in order. Most women my age have given their best years to other men or “dating around” in their 20s and 30s. So if she wants me to consider a LTR with her she better be ready to show she offers more value than sex and her mere p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 11:27 PM
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How does a man baby trap a woman ? She has the final say about getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:40 PM
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Nope actually I won’t date a woman without a job but what they do is quit once they move in with you. It’s the same story. The boss was mean to me or something else like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:34 PM
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I’ve met four who come out with this wanting to wait two or three months kinda stuff. But I’ve met tons who still try the “let’s be friends first” BS but expect you buy all her dinners, fix her cars, etc. She wants the perks of a relationship without the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:32 PM
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Yes and a good part of it is caused by women who try and baby trap men. That said that’s why I got a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 09:30 PM
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I ask a woman what she brings to the table to see her response. I already know but I like to see what she has to say. Yes the number who want to stay at home is small but the number with baby rabies is huge. Why do you think we have a epidemic of single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:57 PM
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Anyone who says women don’t have a high sex drive is fooling themselves. It’s call the hook up culture for a reason. Why do you think women get so pissed off when you ask them how many men they have been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:52 PM
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I don’t date for FDS. I date for a long term relationship and with the risk and manipulating women out there I have to safeguard myself against that. You can date how you want and I’ll date how I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:15 PM
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Nope my beef is with women not being honest with their intentions and manipulating men with the hopes of a relationship. But like I said I’m fine with my system. If a woman doesn’t want to put in her equity into the dating process I know she won’t in a relationship so no big loss. I think you are defending this so hard because you are scared more men will adopt the same rules and woman will have to pay for their own dinners and won’t be able to use men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:09 PM
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Ok so if she wants a man to wait three months to prove his commitment to her shouldn’t she do something to prove hers to him? Once again you are asking the man to take all the risk and men are not buying it anymore. To many women want to use men with lies like this or the classic friends first.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:02 PM
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I never said I wanted her to pay for the whole date. But if she is upfront and wants me to wait three months for sex I tell her she needs to pay for half. On a normal date I never take a woman to dinner for a first date. I take her to coffee or the museum so we can walk and talk. If she objects and pushes for dinner I know she isn’t really interested in me and just wants a free dinner and I move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:01 PM
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I am not talking about wanting sex. I have my life in order and was looking for a woman to have a long term relationship with and made that clear. Sex is easy to get and I can get that all day any day. Finding a quality woman who is wants a partner is hard to find. So many are damaged or just want to use men for a free ride. That’s why I say if a woman takes sex out of the picture she needs to prove she is worth the investment of time. There are plenty of women to get FDS from. But when she want…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:54 PM
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Once again you still have not made a case why woman shouldn’t put as much money and effort into the dating process. If women and you truly believe in equality then it needs to be shown from start in the dating process. All the issues and risks you cited have nothing to do with the man you are going out on a date with. If you thought there was any risk of him doing something bad you wouldn’t be there. For you to say well men have done XYZ in the past is the same as a man sitting and saying well t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:48 PM
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A woman wanting man to wait 3 months for sex is showing her clear ability to manipulate and control with sex. Any man who expects this type of women to give him sex on a regular basis is a idiot. Also it’s been shown over and over that women having a low drive is a lie. Just look at Tinder. Woman want men to think that so they can act like they are doing men a favor or giving them a gift with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:30 PM
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Doesn’t work that way. Equality is equality. You are trying to get the perks with no responsibilities. Things like bad sex is a risk ? Or being abandoned after sex ? What about a man being abandon after putting a lot of time, money, and emotion into courting a woman. You either want real true equality or you don’t. And by your excuses you want the perks of equality but not the responsibilities. But that’s ok. Men are waking up and not allowing them women to use them. And women are not happy abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:18 PM
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Yup and that’s why you don’t get married. As soon as a woman starts withholding sex and manipulating men you move on. I’ve been married once and she did that and I was stuck. But now I refuse to get married and have a vasectomy so when I’m with a woman that does that I tell her bye. She has no courts to use against me so she knows you have two options. Be a good GF and give me sex or find some other place to stay and some other man to take care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:15 PM
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I tell guys that. It’s cheaper to pay for it than to try and get it from dating if that’s their goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:12 PM
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Any man who gets married in today’s world for sex is a fool. Sex is easy to get and not worth giving the massive power to a woman to take half your stuff. If a man wants a relationship to be even he won’t get married and will get a vasectomy. She can’t get pregnant so no child support and no marriage means she can’t use the courts to take the things he worked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:11 PM
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We are talking about investing and having equity. As a woman do you want true equality ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:09 PM
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It all depends on what you want. If you want casual sex there are much ways. If you want a relationship and she won’t invest as much she wants you to it’s a guarantee she won’t in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:09 PM
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Nice try but that doesn’t apply to the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:07 PM
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Nope sex doesn’t cost a woman anything. Sex isn’t a commodity or take effort or work. It’s something she enjoys doing and is able to use it to manipulate a man. If she isn’t willing to open her wallet and invest in the dating process it’s clear she never will be a partner in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:04 PM
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Both sides lie to get what they want. My point is as to make both sides have to put in the same amount of risk and equity. It keeps intentions honest. If a woman wants me to do more during the dating process shows she feels like her time is more important than mine and I have to spent money for her to give me any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:02 PM
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Of course that’s all part of the manipulation. They use sex to blind him into not seeing the real her. That’s why I’ve told guys run like hell if she is trying to jump into bed after a date or two. She wants you to just be blinded by the good sex. I dated a woman like this. Every time I tried to talk to her about getting a job or anything that required effort or work on her part she got naked and turned on her nasty side.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:00 PM
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What ever she wants she need to be upfront with it. Most women are not honest about what they want in order to get what they want. If she is telling him she wants him to court her for three months before sex she is making it apparent she wants a relationship and is asking him to prove his intent. But the bottom line is what ever she wants she needs to be willing to offer the same to him. Most women won’t do this. What she wants and what she gets all depends on what she is willing to do to get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 06:55 PM
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I know a guy who did that. He waited till she was past the point of having any “options”.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 06:42 PM
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People who dress that way want to be objectified when it benefits them and by those they want to objectify them. They only get upset when it’s doesn’t work to their advantage or when they want to act like they are not that type it use their body and looks to their advantage. Dressing sexy and skimpy requires zero effort to get attention and use that for your gain. For a woman to get the same for being smart and classy takes a lot more work that most women refuse to do. What they don’t realize is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 06:30 PM
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The bottom line is she need to prove her intentions are honest just as she wants him to prove his. If she expects him to take all the burden and risk when it comes to paying the bills for all the dates and entrainment what is the risk or investment for her? She wants him to wait to prove his intentions. What does she need to do to prove hers? The only way for her to truly prove she is actually wanting a relationship is to take any reward or benefit she enjoys that he doesn’t during the dating pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:55 PM
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I have zero issue with a woman waiting to wait. She wants a man to prove he is after more than sex. But at the same time she have to prove she is worth waiting for and not after just a good time and free dinner. It’s call relationship equity. If she makes zero investment in the relationship why should she expect him to wait and put 100 of the time, investment, and risk. If a woman wants a man to wait she needs to put in the time and invest time and a equal amount a money into the dating. A woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:07 PM
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Any woman who says she is going to wait three months is just using that as a way to use a man. Women have done this since the dawn of time. I remember when I was a teenager they used the bullshit line of “we need to be friends first”. And you would be a month into trying to build a friendship with her when she would tell you “omg I just met the most amazing guy and we are in a relationship “. Any woman who makes a man wait more than a few weeks is just trying to see if he is willing to be a simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 03:35 PM
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I lot of women hitting the wall do this. They want a baby so bad and they want a man to pay for it. Women today have no morals and ethics when it comes to getting what they want. Never underestimate what a woman will so that have baby rabies.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 03:11 PM
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Ghost her. She is trying to use you as a emotional tampon. Women need to learn the hard way they cannot treat men like shit then get the use them. Women won’t learn this till men stand up to them and tell them life is hard and they need to learn to deal with it.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 02:13 PM
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Your response is a typical of a woman.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 10:26 AM
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Why would I want to do that ? They think they can baby trap me and get money so I let them think that and get really good sex from them. From the time I was a teen to my early 30s women just wanted to friend zone me or use me. They would play games and try and manipulate me. So now it’s my turn to enjoy doing the same to them. Like I said if a woman was honest and up front I would be the same with her. The only ones I use for for sex are the ones who are obviously trying to use me for a payday. …
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 03:54 AM
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And I stand by what I said. If they are honest in their intentions it doesn’t matter if I have a vasectomy or not. If a woman honestly tells me she wants kids I tell her I’m clipped and tell her it won’t work and move on. The only women I hook up with are the ones I can tell are trying to lie and baby trap me or use me for child support. If she is truly on BC it shouldn’t matter if I’m clipped or not. The only reason it would matter is if she is being deceitful and has bad intentions. And if she…
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 03:43 AM
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You are a woman. I saw your earlier post calling yourself a WGTOW and saying men can be pain. I am here in a MGTOW forum the same reason most are. We are tried of the manipulative ways women use men and push them aside when they no longer serve a purpose. I grew up with women playing games with me. Playing the “friends first” games and using me and manipulating me. Now that I have money, a career, and my own home those women want to suddenly offer me the chance to date them. So payback is hell. …
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 03:08 AM
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Sex and deception have gone hand in hand since the dawn of time. Men lie about their intentions to get sex from women. Women give sex to men to blind then and use them. Why do think so many men complain about how the sex stops once she gets a ring on her finger. I don’t care about my rep. Once a woman gets hip that she isn’t going to baby trap me I move on to another one been doing it for a few years and it’s the best sex I’ve ever had. Don’t have to wine and dine them or kiss their ass.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 02:44 AM
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You are missing the whole point. When a woman is lying and trying to get pregnant she will give sex all the time and be very aggressive in bed. So since she wants to play games and lie about being on birth control why should I tell her I’m shooting blanks. I’m just going to enjoy her giving me great sex all the time thinking she is gonna get to baby trap me or get a baby paycheck. Hey women want to lie and use men for dinner and other stuff so why not flip the script and have some fun at their e…
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 01:37 AM
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I ask them up front if they want kids and they say no. I ask them if they are on birth control and they say yes. They have indicated they don’t want kids and are unable to. So where is the dishonesty ? They have never asked me if I had a vasectomy and if they did I would have said yes. If they want a man willing to start a family they need to be honest about it instead of trying to have a “oops” moment or baby trap a man. So please tell me where the dishonesty is coming from?
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 01:27 AM
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I don’t think so because I asked her a few times what type it was and she gave me a different answer. With obsessed as she was with bare sex and not pulling out I knew what she was up to. She went on and on about having a fetish for it and how she didn’t get off till she felt a guy get off. She was trying every ego stroke in the world to get me to get her pregnant.
/r/MGTOW231/08/20 01:19 AM
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It’s amazing how women suddenly want chivalry and trad-con ways when they see they are going to lose the resources and protection. When suddenly they have to do the hard work themselves it’s a issue. That’s why women are attacking MGTOW so hard. They see it as a massive threat.
/r/MGTOW230/08/20 06:19 PM
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They want sole control over that which is why they got furious over the idea of a pill men could take. Women want to be able to know if he is shooting blanks and very few suspect you have had a vasectomy. Had one woman who was like a animal trying to give me sex all the time. You could 100 percent tell she was trying to baby trap because how she went on and on about hating the feel of a condom and kept promising over and over she had a IUD.
/r/MGTOW230/08/20 02:31 PM
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A couple of days of tenderness. Nothing severe.
/r/MGTOW230/08/20 02:25 PM
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What do I do ? I enjoy life. That’s the point of life is to be productive and enjoy your life. I made a calculation that having kids would not allow me to achieve the goals that I wanted in life. From my career to my education to just overall enjoying a low stress life. But just just because someone don’t spread their dna doesn’t mean they have not made their mark on society that will life on. Be it a writer, political activist, etc. To think someone only has value as a living thing if the repro…
/r/MGTOW230/08/20 02:28 AM
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They have been playing the game for years with all the forms of manipulation and usery. It’s only fair to give them a dose of their own medicine. Nothing more enjoyable that having a pre wall woman giving you sex all the time working it hard thinking she is gonna win the lotto but your shooting blanks.
/r/MGTOW230/08/20 02:11 AM
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lol naa the people with kids who live paycheck to paycheck are coping. I am thriving. Enjoying life and getting opportunities that people with kids never would. I enjoy a stress free life and don’t have to worry about what issues the kids are going to cause. But nice try. You sound like someone with kids who is miserable and hates their choice but cannot admit that so they have to make childless people look evil.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 06:55 PM
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I don’t give a shit if they live a zillion more generations. I am enjoying the hell out of life. I own my own home and have traveled the world. I don’t have the burden, stress, or financial drain of kids. So you can call it what you want, I don’t give a shit if my genes live on or not. I am going to enjoy my life.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 06:45 PM
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I’ve had plenty of chances to reproduce and spread my genes. I chose not to because I want to enjoy life. By your logic all the people in 3rd world counties who make kids who will live in horrible slums and make more kids who will have the same life are the fittest. That’s more shaming tactics. You are either a woman or a blue pilled simp.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 06:35 PM
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That’s the difference between us and animals. A lot of us men have the drive to beat the hell out of someone who pisses us off or gets in our way and it’s fun as hell. But to keep society working we can’t do that. Same with sex and having kids. I am evolved enough to see kids are not worth the hassle.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 06:26 PM
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Best way to tell she is cheating when she tells you she is preg.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 05:44 PM
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Who gives a crap seriously? Why are people so egotistical that they feel there life’s value is keeping their dna going ? I would rather enjoy a carefree life without the hassle of kids. Sounds like a typical shaming tactic.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 05:44 PM
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Nothing changes, looks the same and works the same. Just no swimmers popping out.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 05:42 PM
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Even surrogacy had its risk. Been too many court cases where she changes her mind and goes for child support. Why do you want to have a kid ? Most people have this illusion or romanticized idea of being a parent that’s not real. You also want to be a single dad raising a kid alone ?
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 11:27 AM
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That’s crazy, you want kids but don’t want to get married. How do you expect to keep those kids ? You get her preg and she takes the kid and files for child support. Having kids today is crazy. Women today can for no reason take them and then you have to pay for 18 years for her to keep them away from you. No thanks. I see my fiends with kids and how much a of burden they are. I would have never have been able to travel the world and have the life I have if I had kids.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 11:23 AM
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I don’t know I don’t speak to her anymore.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 03:40 AM
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At first I would tell them because I had women say they didn’t want to have to take birth control hormones if he was clipped. But now I’m not looking for a long term relationship just causal so I don’t tell them and enjoy the fun of them trying to think they are going to baby trap me.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 03:26 AM
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I was married for five years and we had a prenup. I paid the mortgage and all the bills associated with the house so she couldn’t try and make a claim to Invalidate the prenup. She paid for her own grooming stuff and we split dinner 50/50 when we went out. She would buy dinner one time and I would the next. She and I agreed on no kids and that she would keep working. It was a 50/ 50 partnership from the start. It ended because she cheated.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 03:25 AM
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Actually it does if a prenup is written that pay and finances are kept separately. Seen it done and it works.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 03:15 AM
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Why wouldn’t they want to sign a prenup ? Because they want to take half my stuff when the marriage doesn’t work. I had one woman tell me she feels that she should be compensated for how ever many years she gives me. But you talk about a woman wanting to have kids and being honest about it. Why would a woman tell me she didn’t want kids but go nuts when I tell her I had a vasectomy? Only reason was to lie and get pregnant so she could make me pay for her to raise her kid. Some of my sisters frie…
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 03:04 AM
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Try being a guy with your life in order in his late 30s. It’s not just some circles. I have yet to meet a woman who wants a real relationship. All the ones I meet toss a fit when you say no kids and a prenup. Women today have the attitude that if they are not going to get resources from a man why commit ? Sad but true.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 02:50 AM
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Anyone who goes into a marriage without a prenup is dumb. Heck getting married is dumb really for anyone with a high net worth. I own my own home and my own business. I have gone out on many dates and had women who acted interested. But as soon as I told them I had a vasectomy and will never get married they go ballistic. Same with women who acted like they were not interested in anything serious and didn’t want kids. As soon as I told them I had a vasectomy they lost their mind. Women today are…
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 02:44 AM
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I am not a young kid. A stay at home mom is not owed half. What about a woman with no kids ? Does she deserve half for being a house wife with no kids when he makes six figures ? What you do think about Adele’s husband getting half of her millions ?
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 02:28 AM
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It all depends on why she is getting a divorce. If she just decides she is unhappy and wants to leave she shouldn’t get half unless she worked and earned half of the money. This is why I am for prenups. It keeps everyone honest but you would be amazed how many women I’ve talked to that go nuts and call you all kinds of names when you ask for a prenup. The only way for a man to ensure he doesn’t get screwed is to have a prenup and vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 02:02 AM
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Gigi trying being a young man and having women lead you on and use you, put you in the friend zone, tell you that you are too nice while they go fuck some douchebag guy. You don’t think that’s damaging to a man emotionally. Men don’t just wake up and dislike or distrust women. They get to this point as a result of the way women have treated them. No man is is born MGTOW, he is made that way by selfish narcissistic women.
/r/MGTOW228/08/20 09:49 PM
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It’s not about hate and rage. It’s about understanding the way things are and opting not to put your self at risk. Women and relationships today don’t offer the risk / reward balance they did 20 or more years ago. Casual sex is easy to find so why bring a woman and all the risk and emotional baggage that comes with it into your life. A woman is like like a Range Rover. They are a rice ride but way to problematic and expensive to keep.
/r/MGTOW228/08/20 08:08 PM
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3 is the biggest reason. Women attack MGTOW because it’s waking men up and opening their eyes. Women are terrified that men won’t wife them up and give them cash and prizes. MGTOW is disrupting the system women have relied on to have a easy life.
/r/MGTOW228/08/20 06:24 PM
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That is one of the best things about being in my 30s is my brain talks louder than my dick. I see how much women are not worth the hassle and look back and wish I would have had this clarity back when I was 20. Women realize this and that’s why they want to give you sex so quickly. They know once they ring your bell really good you will ignore all the red flags. I actually had a woman ask me about how I felt acing a wife buying expensive purses and such. I told her that was not appropriate after…
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 06:23 PM
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What we want the most ? That’s the problem with women is they think they are gods gift to men and that they can control us with sex. Look at how women are going after the red pill and MGTOW movements because men are not wanting sexual the most. Women want and need men to want sex the most so they can control them and use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 06:15 AM
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The people that are born into money and good looks cannot tell you how to date because they don’t know how dating is for the common man or woman. The hard truth is dating a relationships suck today because of the massive levels of narcissism and over estimated self worth. You also have a major issue with people who don’t want to follow the social contact but then scream and cry when they can’t find what following it would have given them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:31 AM
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Thank you for the articulate and informative response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:50 PM
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Women who want to keep making out but not have sex are using it to manipulate a man. It makes him think it’s just a matter of time till she gives him sex. Meanwhile she is using him and has zero intention of giving him sex. Women keep saying men are not entitled to sex which is correct but women are not entitled to commitment of any level. I’ve lost count how many women I’ve gone out on a date with over the years who went postal when I refuse their offer of friendship after they tell me they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:39 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. They spent their value up and once they realize it’s falling they settle for one of the decent men who they turned away earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:58 PM
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It has made dating to nothing but looks based and what can you offer me type of relationships. Women even 4s or 5’s think they are tens because of all the desperate men hitting on them trying to get some sex. I’ve found it very hard to find a quality woman online who actually has something to offer in the level of what she expects. In the era of easy sex a relationship isn’t worth it unless she really has something to offer outside of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:57 PM
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Retard ? Ahh the argument of a articulate and educated individual, name calling. I do agree on not getting married and also not having kids. I got clipped early on. That said you have people who want kids or have accidents and my advance is to them. Even if you are naive enough to want kids you best make sure they are yours.
/r/MGTOW209/08/20 01:37 AM
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You proved my point. They have social controls that the states don’t have. It doesn’t matter what makes a women behave the way they do, it’s the outcome. The fact of the matter is American society encourages single motherhood while Latin America doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:35 PM
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You can never truly trust a woman. Why do you think 70 percent of divorces are filed by women ? What you fail to realize is the repercussions of this long term if you don’t find out immediately. You could be on the hook for child support for the next 20 years. If she cheats you can just bail out with a good prenup and not worry about it. But if you are stupid enough not to check if that child is yours you could be paying for a long time. Like I said you can never fully trust a woman so you need …
/r/MGTOW208/08/20 05:34 PM
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As Ronald Reagan said best, trust but verify. This is such a massive life changing thing why trust them ? When we see the numbers why think you are the exception? It’s cheap and easy was to rest you mind and never have to wonder. When you look at how many women get pregnant by another man you are a fool for not checking.
/r/MGTOW207/08/20 07:29 PM
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In the United States the number of single moms is high it’s almost cliche. The fathers involvement is often times very low and she has to use to courts and government to support her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:08 PM
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The difference in Columbia and the states is who the women pick to have kids with. Even thought kids are born out of wedlock in Columbia it’s still two people who love each other and the women pick much better because they know they don’t have forced child support and government safety nets like we do in the states. So when she chooses a man she makes sure he is going to be there the best she can. Here he is states we have women who try and baby trap a man or just not vet the man very well befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:58 PM
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Research is cherry picked and can easily be tilted to the researchers bias. How can you realistically evaluate “hook up culture”. You are asking people a question and relying on their honest answer which isn’t reliable. Heck look how many pollsters had people tell them they voted for Biden at exit polls when they voted Trump. People are not honest on self report surveys especially on moral issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 10:03 PM
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You are not factoring in age and other issues. If you have a group of women and men in their 20s the men are chasing the women. But when it’s a group in their 30s and 40s it’s reverse. Since the dawn of time men have found women early on in life mostly during college and built a life and family together. Only recently have women decided they want to put that on hold and wait till they are almost 30 and have a career. Men have just decided the juice isn’t worth the squeeze anymore because of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:56 PM
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Because women are the ones who control hook up culture not men. If there is more men than women it means there is more for women to choose from and not feel like they are settling. If there is more women the women compete for the men and allow the hook up culture to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 05:54 PM
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Most men I know and for the majority of history have looked for a good woman to find in their 20s to marry and build a life with. Women today don’t want to do that any more. They don’t want to be by a mans side and struggle with him. They want to wait at the finish line and find him when he is 30 and making good money and expect him to marry her, give her kids, and support her. If you look around there are plenty of good men that don’t want the stress and headache of the hookup culture. But wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:21 PM
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The real truth is the type of men you are going after don’t want to commit. There are plenty of men in their 20s who would love to find a woman to commit and start a family with but they are what most women would call a beta or a nice guy. The women I’ve met in their 20s today don’t want to commit. I had one who outright told me she wasn’t going to commit because something better may come along. When I date I lay out one simple rule. I say if after a month of dating we either are to be exclusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:34 PM
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It all depends on the type of men you are looking at. In my friends group I have guys who are alphas/ bad boys that will never settle down. They get plenty of women attention and enjoy the freedom. And to be honest any woman who wants commitment from them is a fool. But a lot of my male friends have good jobs and want to find a woman to have a family with. But they are not the top 20 percent type of men that women want so they cannot find one who wants to commit to them. If a woman can’t find a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:37 PM
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I know plenty of college educated women who don’t feel the need to use the new “buzz” words to try and signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:34 PM
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The fact you keep calling referring to men as “ cishet men” tells me your politics are not compatible with most single men today. Men today don’t want a relationship with “woke” women. Men will have a hook up with someone who is on the left and “woke” but won’t commit to them. https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2020/01/9244509/laurence-fox-anti-woke-meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:38 AM
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If she holds fast on her virtues she won’t get played. If a man really wants commitment he won’t pressure them for sex or anything of the sort. Women today know that committing at a young age denies them a lot of fun a freedom they could have in their 20s. I know several women who have admitted such. They got men to shower them with gifts, money, trips etc trying to woo them into commitment while they were in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:12 PM
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I disagree the vast majority of men I know would like to have a wife and start building a family in their 20s. The issue is any women worth marrying don’t want to settle down in their 20s because of all the opportunities to date around, have fun, etc. That’s why you are seeing a epidemic of single women in their 30s unable to find a man. What’s the old saying, why should a man give a woman his best years when she didn’t want to give him her best years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:48 PM
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It really depends on age. Men do want a relationship early on in their adult life till about mid 30s. After they they realize life is not bad single and have are ok being single and realize it has it perks. They still want sex but not a relationship unless the risk is low (no kids and prenup). Women on the other hand don’t want a relationship but do want sex early on till they hit their late 20s early 30s. Then they realize they are running out of time to have kids and family. As women get older…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:54 PM
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What I ask for to make dating fair is simple. First rule is we each pay our own way on dates. It makes the date and everyone’s intentions honest. Second is we talk on the phone a few times before a date. Anyone can text a Little here and there but you need to put some equity by means of attention into it. Third is if we go out for a month (normally four dates) we either agree to see each other exclusively or we move on to other people. My thoughts are if after four dates you don’t see a spark or…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:56 PM
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Revenge ? Hardly, I’m all for focusing on your own life and moving on. Don’t worry about how anyone but you lives your life. I mean how insulting is that to have a partner tell you that you are not her first choice. That’s something a man or woman would have a hard time dealing with for the life of the relationship. And yes being someone’s second choice means they couldn’t get the man that they think life owed them and will never be truly happy with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:20 PM
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She can trade up if she hides her count and makes herself look more high value than she was with things like getting in shape, weight loss, and plastic surgery. But she can never get the value that she was when she was much younger. So let’s say she was a 10 when she was 20 but gained weight and got out of shape and became a 5 when she was 30. She can lose weight, pay off her debit, get in shape and be a 7 or 8 but she won’t ever been a 10 again. Also hypergamy comes in many forms. She may leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:18 PM
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These women who settle are the reason the divorce rate is 70 percent of women are the ones who file. They settle to get a man to support them and give them kids. Then divorce him and take the kids but make him support her and the kids. A women settling isn’t it love and will never be faithful. The man she ends up with is a means to a end no someone she loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:10 PM
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Typical shaming tactics of women. A woman’s beauty and youth are at her peek when she is 18 and go down from there. Women try and shame men for liking young (legal) women because it hurts them getting men. This is a old method of women to social control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:25 AM
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You mean you pushed him aside to try other men and now you settled because you are getting older, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 01:12 PM
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Your post is typical of a woman who cannot get the type of man she thinks life owes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 01:03 PM
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Of course it’s money. That’s what most women see in men. Men are attracted to women’s beauty and youth and women are attracted to men’s status, money, and resources. A man can build status and money as he gets older but a women won’t get better looking or more youthful. A old broke dude with game can get girls that are train wrecks and daddy issues for sex which is more than woman can get. A old broke woman can’t get young men even ones with issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 12:49 AM
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Such an articulate and logical response with plenty of examples. Your response is someone in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:09 PM
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Of course the value goes up. Why do you think a guy in his 40s can get a hot girl in her 20s. You don’t see women in their 40s getting guys in their 20s unless they have big money. Just the nature of SMV. Women peek at 18 and go down from there. Men hit theirs around 40 when they have a career and life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:24 PM
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As a man gets older her gets more money and better status. Just look around, how often do you see a man in his 50s with a woman in her 20s or 30s. You see it a lot. Now look around and how many women in their 50s do you see with a man in his 20s or 30s? Not very many. Heck most of women in their 50s complain they can’t even get a man their age to date them. It’s mostly older men who are interested in them. Women and men don’t age the same. Women hit their prime at 18 when it comes to sexual mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:07 PM
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Because they know she will never be loyal. If someone settles for you that means they have a very high chance of jumping to someone else they think is better. Being someone’s second choice means they are not fully happy with you. They chose you because they felt they didn’t have any other choice. And no it’s not called maturity when she decides she doesn’t want the jocks anymore. It’s because she realized her clock is ticking and now she has had her fun and wants someone to support her and give …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:49 PM
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Men are much more wired to be alone and handle it better. Men have taken many jobs over time where solitude and working alone is required. Women are much more social creatures. Most (not all) but a large amount of women feel the need to have kids and a family to feel validated. Ever heard of baby rabies. Men can grow old and enjoy life without having kids or feeling a massive regret about it. But women tend to not be able to cope with that as well. I think women are far more wired to be lonely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:47 PM
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Women are the gate keepers to sex men are the gate keepers to commitment. Why do think there is so many woman constantly saying “oh he only wants me for sex” or the classic “where have all the good men gone.” I’ve lost count how many women I’ve heard go on and on about men are just players today and don’t want to commit anymore. If this doesn’t bother women why do you think they are so aggressively trying to get MGTOW and Redpill YouTube channels taken down. Men today see that marriage and commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:42 PM
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Sad but true. Most women will never be monogamous or marriage material. Most think they are having fun and in the drivers seat of life till they hit their late 30s / early 40s and realize they are going to grow old alone. When women decided to break the social contact of relationships, they got short term gratification but long term penalties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 06:25 PM
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Hypergamy still hurts women a lot more than men. A man can be fat and ugly but still have a high market value if he has money. As a man gets older and better set up in life his value only goes up. Women on the other hand can’t do much to increase their value. It’s at its highest at 18 and just falls as she gets older.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 06:23 PM
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I fully agree with this. It gets to the basics of sexual market value. Women look at men for looks but mostly for their status and resources / ability to provide security. Men are attracted to women for the looks first and for most. Some men are sapiosexual and are attracted to intelligence and will overlook some body issues on a woman. But mostly men are attracted to a women based on her looks. What’s happened in the last five years is the body positivity movement with women who feel like they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 06:20 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. Women see a “good man” and boring and weak. The only use women have a “good man” is to support them. Remember she wants a beta for the bucks and a alpha for the fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:31 PM
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Having a new a partner every 2-3 years is a major issue. It tells me she moves in after the relationship passes the honeymoon period. There is no double standard. Women and men like each other for different reasons. A woman’s value to a man for him to want to commit to her is she has to be low mileage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:18 AM
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Nope it’s not to be honest and that’s why most men are walking away from relationships if a woman expresses interest I’ll put forth the effort to see if she is relationship material. But most I’ve found today that express interest tend to be looking for some material gain. Most women who have their life in order with no kids and are in good health know they can enjoy life a lot more playing the field. But most a very short sighted and think that level of attention will last forever. But they hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 07:07 PM
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I don’t have kids and thanks to the snip snip I won’t ever have them. My biggest issue with single moms is they have a major entitlement attitude and expect a man to bend his life around hers because she has kids and he doesn’t. As a guy dating a single mom she will never ever make you a priority in her life at least not a top priority. I hear some many push the “my kids come first attitude” and that’s BS. They use that as a excuse to keep the man on the back burner and manipulate him. Anytime I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:12 AM
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Women test men far more than men test women in relationships and dating. The classic “shit tests” as they are most commonly called. The only reason women get pissed when they are tested is because they don’t like not having full control. I had one woman I know tell me if she knew that Tinder was going to come along and fuck up dating she would have locked a good man down years ago. Translation is that tinder made men able to play the same games women have done for years and she hates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:07 AM
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I agree you have to be very very careful that why I am very picky about the women I date. I don’t want kids and don’t want her to have any either. I also don’t want to support her and as such I expect her to have her life in order in the same as me financially. I also have made any women I live with sign a co habitation agreement. It’s amazing how many women change their tunes when you lay it all out from the start and show them you are cutting off any possible benefit from being in a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:05 AM
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I’m not trying to test them so much as it’s really just getting to know someone. I would never let her stay on the pill for months because I didn’t tell her. But anyone who says dating isn’t about trying to vet and test the other is a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:20 PM
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Why do you lie from the start and think once a guy gets to know you he will suddenly say I normally don’t date single moms but you have changed my mind. No guy will ever say that. Men don’t like being lied to or deceived and that’s a big one. So big question, are you divorced ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:14 PM
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Of course you find it unpersuasive. You are a woman and want all the control and power in a relationship. No one in the right mind is going to willingly give up any power or control that makes a situation more to their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:09 PM
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Don’t feel guilty about leading them on for a few dates? So do you pay for the dates or pay your own half. I’m guessing no you expect them to pay so you have no risk in this. You get a free dinner with no risk. This is why men don’t want to date single moms. They think the rules don’t apply to them and the guy must bend the relationship around you. And if you are lying about something so big what else are you going to lie about ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:07 PM
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You are setting yourself up for failure by lying on such a big issue. I make it clear from the start I won’t date a woman with kids. I’ve had a few hide their kids thinking I will come around after getting to know them but as soon as they tell me I move in because she was being dishonest. When I am dating someone it’s because I was to have a life with them eventually. Having a kid in the household isn’t something I want so sooner or later it’s a issue that will come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:04 PM
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A woman has the final say on abortion or not. She also has the most reliable methods of birth control. If you go back in history and look at the relation between government financial support and single moms you will see a sharp correlation. Women didn’t have kids out of wedlock when they knew they wouldn’t get any support. By taking away the financial incentive it will force women to take responsibility over their reproductive freedom. For years and years women have said its their body and their…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:41 PM
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It’s a fight that you are not going to win in today’s world. That’s why I got a vasectomy and will never get married. It’s amazing how many women act like they are traditionalist and don’t want kids till you tell them you are clipped and won’t ever get married. Walking in and telling a woman this is the great equalizer. She knows instantly she has to maintain the same standards she did in the start of the relationship to keep you around. If you take kids and the state (marriage) out of it, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:26 PM
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Look back at the comment I made about. A lot of this would stop if a form had to be signed agreeing to wanting a kiddo and being responsible for it. There is a lot of women who think things like a baby will make him love her again or bring them closer but it never does. Women would think twice about getting pregnant if they knew he didn’t legally have to stick around or support them. Remember at the end of the day a woman holds all the cards when it comes to a IUD or abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:16 PM
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I fully agree with you about LTR and the lack of sex before being in a LTR but sadly most women don’t believe that. A lot of women enjoy the freedom, fun, and excitement of hookups but don’t realize they have burned out their ability to pair bond with someone. Or maybe they have and that’s why a woman will almost never tell you her real number if past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:14 PM
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Wasting time? I ask a woman up front and I am very very firm and insistent on it, do you think you might ever want kids because if you do I am not the man for you. I am very blunt and to the point about that so no it’s not wasting a woman’s time. What I hear from you is you are mad that the man has taken full control of reproduction away from the woman without telling her. Yea it’s amazing how mad a woman gets when she suddenly finds out she doesn’t have all the control over reproduction anymore…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:10 PM
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I agree it is but when it comes to wanting a baby and to be a mother, a lot of women let the emotional side of their brain override the logic side.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:57 AM
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I’ll throw this one on here also. A perfect example is why women don’t like it a man could take the pill and take the power and control from her. “If all women had to wait for men to feel broody (and for this to coincide with his jab wearing off), the birth rate would drop like a stone”. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251868/Of-course-women-dont-want-male-pill--end-happy-little-accidents.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:56 AM
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I am the irrational one ? How do you figure ? If someone says they don’t want to have kids and has a IUD in place they shouldn’t care one way or the other if I am sterile. You keep acting like the woman is a victim. The only reason the women got mad was either they wanted to get preg and me support them or they want that control over that part of the relationship . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251868/Of-course-women-dont-want-male-pill--end-happy-little-accidents.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:55 AM
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Ahh still playing the victim. The risks for a man are no choice but to pay for 18 years, a woman has the choice to end it. So yes it’s a substantial financial risk for a man. How would you like to risk a 1/4 or more of your income for the next 18 years ? But nope a woman would never do something like that, oh wait what’s this..... https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-woman-to-pay-31k-for-sperm-theft-1.5296697
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:44 AM
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How about a court of law ? That work for you. I am betting that no matter what I post you won’t believe it or be happy. https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-woman-to-pay-31k-for-sperm-theft-1.5296697
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:42 AM
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I’m guessing you are a woman and don’t see it from the risk of a man. If a woman is true to what she says she wouldn’t be upset. The fact she get irate and won’t tell me why tells me all I need to know. I’ve dated women who were honest and when I told them they had zero issue with it and agreed with my logic. Any woman who had a issue with it has a hidden agenda. If she doesn’t “want my seed” then it shouldn’t have any bearing to her or issue to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:35 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-7309777/Motherhood-theft-investigate-disturbing-rise-spurgling-sperm-burgling.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:29 AM
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Setting up tests? All I am doing is omitting the fact that I have a vasectomy which is irrelevant if she is honest about the fact that she is on birth control and doesn’t want kids. I never said I was being manipulated. I said she was trying to baby trap me and she got furious when she realized it was all in vain. I’ve asked the women who got furious why they were furious and none of them would tell me. I even had one I asked for a document or receipt showing she did have a IUD and she refused a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:28 AM
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A lot don’t care and think it will all work out. When a woman has baby rabies she doesn’t think logically. She is just worried her womb is going to slam shut like a time lock at the bank and wants a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:33 AM
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I make it VERY VERY VERY clear up front I don’t want kids and never ever will and if she changers her mind she will have to find another man. Those women have always been like hell yes I hate them and never want them also. Remember I’m 40 and these are women in their mind to late 30s so not much time to change their mind. But I’m very clear from the start and even if I wasn’t sterile she shouldn’t go into this relationship expecting me to change my mind or her to do such. The anger is about them…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 11:21 PM
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I’ll just leave this here for those who think women don’t try and trap a man. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-7309777/Motherhood-theft-investigate-disturbing-rise-spurgling-sperm-burgling.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:24 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-7309777/Motherhood-theft-investigate-disturbing-rise-spurgling-sperm-burgling.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:23 PM
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If she says she has a IUD and doesn’t want kids why then do I need to disclose that I am sterile. She has made the choice to her reproductive freedom. Now after a year or two and we are living together and committed I would say hey when I’m sterile and you can have your IUD removed. But I’ve talked to several female friends and they all agree. If a woman was genuinely on the pill or had a IUD she would NOT have been upset about me not disclosing my vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:22 PM
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I think a lot of woman genuinely believe they are some kinda magic special unicorn that will make this bad boy suddenly change his ways and commit to her and step up as a man when she tells him she is pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:18 PM
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I am not a serial dater either but I’m 40 and date women in their 30s who tend to be up against the wall with having kids and want them bad. Everyone withholds some info when dating. Just ask a woman how many men she has slept with and see if you get a honest answer. Or how many woman tell you upfront they have massive amounts of debit, etc. Trust is earned in a relationship and you have to be strategic in building that and testing it. But if a woman is truly not wanting kids and truly on effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:12 PM
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It also doesn’t seem fair when they lied to me. Let’s cut the crap and be honest about dating today. There are a lot of women and men out there who are only in it for themselves and you have to protect yourself from them. When I have a woman aggressively telling me I don’t need to wear a condom because she has a IUD i need to be sure she is just really wanting to enjoy the sex and doesn’t have hidden agendas. And from my experience I’ve found a lot of them have had a very dangerous hidden agenda…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:04 PM
2

I work with oilfield guys and I’ve seen how much they take from their checks. These guys get torn apart with the amount they lose a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:59 PM
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Don’t try and turn this around on me. When I meet a women and she tells we she had a IUD I have no need to disclose my vasectomy at first. After a month or two I will but I don’t expect her to get her IUD yanked out after a month of dating me. I use it as a test and it never fails to find out who is trying to manipulate me which was clearly shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:56 PM
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Have you not looked around and read how many women are rabid about having a baby man or not? It’s not about trapping a rich man. It’s about having a kid and getting a guy to pay half but not really be in your life. Let say a guy makes 60K a year and you as the mother get around half. That’s about $2,000 a month extra you have to raise your kiddo. That’s why so many woman don’t chose the sperm bank because it won’t help pay to raise the kid. But easy solution, if women are not trying to baby trap…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:48 PM
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Condoms fail and there is plenty of cases of women taking condoms out of the trash and getting themselves pregnant. As a guy who has my life in order, no kids and is successful I’ve met pretty of women who tell me they don’t want kids and are on the pill or have a IUD. But when we start dating and I tell them I had a vasectomy, they go ballistic and get furious. I had one lady I was dating and she was very passionate in bed, giving me sex all the time and wanting it all the time. She told me she…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:41 PM
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If a woman knew she couldn’t get child support or any government money how many do you think would become single moms? The reason men are upset is because women use this as a form of entrapment and control. A woman has all the choices and power in the situation and a man has none. She can chose to abort or not and he has no say. However if she decides to keep it she can make him pay for it and he doesn’t have a choice. Add to the inequality she also is most likely to get full or the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:36 PM
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Yes the woman will still be unhappy and will always been looking out for something better. It’s hypergamy. Look at the studies on obese men and women who had weight loss surgery. They found men who had married someone that was their market value still stayed married after they lost weight. Women on the other hand had a high rate of divorce because they realized they could do better. Same with jobs. Men who get better jobs tend to Stay with their woman vs women who get a better job feel they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:31 PM
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Yes but most women do make it transactional because most women today make a relationship transactional. A lot of women see sex as a way to keep the upper hand and control in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 06:43 PM
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In a relationship there is always a reacher and a settler. If you date someone less attractive they know that getting you and keeping you was a lottery ticket to them and they are not going to risk messing it up. So if you are higher value than the woman you are will she isn’t going to engage in risky behavior to jeopardize the relationship. But if she is a much higher value than you she knows she can find another you really easy so making you happy and keeping you happy isn’t a priority for her…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 06:19 PM
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Men will become more happy because they will focus on life and building up their resources and group of friends. Men don’t need women the way women need men. Women since the beginning of time have built a life around using men for security and resources. If you look at the videos of how many woman are attacking MGTOW it shows you they are scared and panicking about. As a man gets older and more established in life he can always find a woman who wants to hang around him for a weekend on his boat,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 06:16 PM
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The reason doe so many sexless men is easily explained to the 80/20 rule. You have 20 percent of the men having sex with the 80 percent of the women. It’s not about a woman feeling not sexy and that’s the biggest line of BS I’ve ever heard. It’s about women wanting the top value men of society and being willing to share them to get a access to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:16 AM
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Of course they do. They have tons of options and have not been around long enough to see the damage it does. When you are a woman in your 20s and have tons of men wanting to offering you a relationship, commitment and security, it means nothing for you to risk it and throw it away. As woman get in their 30s and see a lot of those prospects and attention dry up they tend not want to risk it as much with cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:14 AM
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Once you are in a relationship you shouldn’t make sex transactional or else it will lead to resentment and cause the relationship to end. If you make him earn it, you are no longer having a relationship build on love and partnership. You are using him as a resource and tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:10 AM
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You will see a lot more happy men and miserable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:07 AM
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Thats why you get clipped but don’t tell them. I’ve seen women go from swearing they are on the pill or having a IUD and never want kids to getting furious and walking off when you tell them you are clipped. Know one guy who loves to play the game and act like he is really worried about getting her preg. He said women give him wild crazy sex thinking he can get them pregnant because he really has his life in order.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:43 PM
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I’ve met plenty of fun women and plenty of boring women. My biggest issue is it’s almost impossible to find a women who just wants to be friends and do fun things that doesn’t want to use you. I’ve talked to most of my other male fiends and they have the same experiences. But as others have said men and women have different hobbies and interests. Some times you find women who enjoy men’s interests and hobbies but they always expect you to provide them when y’all hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 09:05 PM
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I think we can see a certain aspect of nature by the behavior that we do and repeat even thought the outcome is horrible. Just look at men who keep hooking up with crazy wild women they know will be nothing but trouble. Do they expect a better outcome with each? Nope but their drive to have sex with her makes them not listen to that part of their brain. Same with women and bad boys. The outcome is still the same but yet the keep on doing it. This is where it gets into the ugly truth that most do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 08:50 PM
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Toxic way to live ? Everyone who looks for a partner looks for someone who is on the same level or above. You can call it “toxic” but it’s human nature and most animals nature. We as people want someone who has and is on the same path in life as they are. If someone has made poor choices in their life and it’s a mess, someone who has done the opposite and has their life in order doesn’t want that type of partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 08:45 PM
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I agree and the women act like they didn’t want the relationship but at the same time become bitter and say how all men only want sex etc. Whenever I’ve seen a woman who offers a man a FWB relationship it’s because the man is above her league and she thinks she can use sex to change his mind. Women who offer FWB today don’t understand the difference between their sexual market value and relationship market value. You can have a woman who is a 9 or 10 sexually with a smoking body that plenty of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 05:16 PM
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What’s interesting is the double edged sword women get themselves into by agreeing to be a FWB. They think the man will come around and fall in love but most men see her as someone they will have sex with but would never commit to because she agreed to be his FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:25 PM
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I’ve seen plenty start as FWB but most never tend to last because they are based on physical attraction, lust, etc. After a while the sex is no longer the exciting new thing it was and they realize they don’t have much in common or are not really compatible. I know it sounds corny in today’s world but the best relationships I’ve had and seen with others is when they built in on common interests and waited a little bit before sex. I can say first hand having sex blinds you to a lot of red flags a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:13 PM
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I’ve found the almost no one is truly happy with a FWB relationship. It’s normally one person who really wants a relationship with someone who doesn’t and the person who doesn’t exploits the person who does. Seen it so many times. Normally it’s a woman who really wants a relationship with a guy and thinks if she is his FWB at first he will see the real get and come around to wanting a relationship. But then when the guy never comes around she gets pissed and says all men are horrible, etc. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:55 PM
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When I see a woman brag she has been all over the world at a young age it’s a red flag. Unless she is a trust fund girl she did it on other people’s (Mens) dime. She is someone who will expect you to do the same for her and unless you have a ton of money will never be happy. I say this from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:15 PM
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The only time a man is approached by a woman is if he is the top 5-10 percent in looks, wealth, and social status. If you are not the top 5-10 percent and a woman approaches you odds are very high she wants to use you for something and has no real interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 08:05 PM
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You hit the nail on the head but women won’t admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:06 AM
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Any man who doesn’t do a paternity test on his ew born children is a fool. The numbers that come back being not the father is a staggering 1/4. There is a reason women are so against this and try to make so many arguments against it. The men they want to provide and raise their kids are often not the type they want to be the genetic father of their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:02 AM
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One of the other big things men look for if you want them to wait is investment in them. Talking to them a lot on the phone not just text. Spending time with them. Asking a man to wait that long in today’s world is going to require dating differently. You need to make sure he knows that you are exclusively dating him and ask the same from him. I’ve found no man is willing to date a woman for months waiting on sex if you are not willing to be exclusive and off the market. If you are still “on the…
/r/RedPillWomen19/06/20 05:02 PM
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You need to make sure he understands you want to really get to know him and build to that point. A lot of men today think if you don’t have sex with them quickly you are not interested in them and just dating them for entertain, free dinners, or just emotional support. You need to show him that you are serious by offering to go Dutch on dates or you pay for one date or he pays the other and y’all go back and forth. It’s amazing how I’ve found guys will work with you when you make them feel like …
/r/RedPillWomen18/06/20 01:38 AM
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