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Guilty. But the point remains. Why call it “bad boy behavior” if it’s actually what women desire? Like I said I have a unique experience of being hot but polite, getting middling results. Then changing and being much more of a libertine and getting way better results. That is exactly the opposite of what I was taught by the women who raised me and my platonic lady friends and acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:27 PM
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CEOs making 285x the median employee wage. To be fair they earned it by…. (Checks notes) doing nothing different at all. Edit for context: in the past it was a multiple of closer to 20x. The responsibilities of ceos have not gotten 14x harder in the past few decades. Hence my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:22 PM
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Yeah I hate firefighters. Pretty gay to want more firefighters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:21 PM
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I struggle with this as a handsome guy. When I act as a gentleman which is how I was raised I just don’t get the play from the ladies. Acting like a cad and a libertine pretty much always works better IME. Tough for me because yeah I was raised by women to be a total gentleman. Yet, for some reason all those gentlemanly things just don’t seem attractive to women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:20 PM
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Well you see what’s more important than facilitating understanding is that the person spewing advice maintains the moral high ground and takes the place of authority in the narrative context. That’s where you’re getting confused, it’s never been about the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:46 PM

The whole red pill is based on the idea of doing what works and uncovering the subtext in all of these conversations. The blue pill is hopeful and something to aspire to sure. Yet I think it’s a little naive given the lived experiences so many of us have. I’d be blue pill if it worked better. As it stands it’s just not an effective way to view the world. Even the most enlightened, feminist women seem to be quite red pill in their preferences and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:04 PM
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Yeah I was raised to be a perfect gentleman. Trying to get to know a person and treat them like a human being. At some point you gotta make things sexual or the other person is just going to get confused and bored at least in my experience. I’ve had much better luck with women when acting like a cad and a libertine. With all sorts by the way. inb4: “that only works on dockside harlots and garbage women”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:09 PM
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Disagree I feel like even if I like a girl a lot I’m trying to get intimate asap so that they don’t get bored and they stay invested. I’ve had girls who I tried to do the right thing and take it slow and they just got bored and assumed I wasn’t interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:54 PM
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I think more would take it serious if it wasn’t seen as lame or weak or feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:51 PM
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Raise the minimum wage. Tax the rich. Eliminate corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:48 PM
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I was raised basically that I should not have any preferences. If a woman chooses me I’m supposed to just be hers forever. Through therapy I’ve been able to be a little more selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:47 PM
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Obligatory some of us absolutely do take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:45 PM
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As a hot nerd I have had better luck keeping my nerdiness a secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:44 PM
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This just sounds like “slavery is over, stop complaining about all the problems related to race”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:28 PM
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Really depends on the affair partner. I’m not a jealous person so I’m probably not the target for this question. There’s a chance that neither would really bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:51 PM
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It’s all impossible to define now because of the politicization of the terms. It’s a shame that some people really live their whole lives through these lenses. Personally people think I’m gay all the time, what can I do? Dress like shit? Actively try to be grosser? Uglier? Get outta town…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:28 PM

Thats not that surprising. Being an attractive man and seeing the difference in response between “doing the right thing” and being a cad and a libertine. That is surprising. Especially after being raised to be a gentleman. Of course ymmv, see above, pretty privilege etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:22 PM
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Balance in all things. I was raised by women in a left wing household and I was shocked that when I got out into the real world some of the “red pill” “sleazy uncle” style advice was so effective. So yeah just don’t go too far in either direction. Sometimes it’s good to spin plates and be aloof. Sometimes it’s time to buy flowers and meet her parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:11 PM
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I think a lot of these terms are so useless now. “Asshole” in the “nice guy vs asshole” context just means a guy who is not afraid to express himself sexually and therefore has more success in that arena because (shocker) you will never win a job you don’t apply for. “Nice guys” in the context of this internet debate just means a guy who listened to the lessons he was told about how women want to be courted that are completely devoid of recognition that women are also sexual creatures. It seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:05 PM
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Not red pill. However I find there’s levels to everything. Being successful and handsome definitely allowed me to have some romantic luck over the years. However, I never really felt like I was ever in control of anything. Once I changed my attitude to match what I had observed women respond to I had even more luck. In my opinion attitude is at least as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:18 PM
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Not red pill but yes. Throughout the years there have been a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:29 PM

I agree with you that times have been tougher in the past. I disagree that feminism is completely faultless in regards to the dating problems of men and women today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:27 PM
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I just believe there is a social stigma about men saying literally anything about dating. Like I’ve been berated by women for doing super harmless things as if I’m some awful person. Here’s the kicker, women seem to enjoy it when I do it but they hate hearing about how I had some success come from some knowledge of lady behavior. Furthermore women have said that “anyone who falls for that or appreciates that is somehow a low quality, dockside harlot” So like… it just seems that the common denomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:20 PM
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I can’t really understand this writing. If you mean why don’t we ask men to date less attractive women and value personality more highly… then I have to say that I experienced a lot of that growing up. Furthermore what have you been doing for the past 20 years to have missed that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:58 PM
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Completely agree. I guess I have a chip on my shoulder because I was served a lot of advice as if it was that black and white. Just from the reverse perspective. Basically instead of “all women respond well to X” I got “X is an immature way to court a woman and you should never ever do that” The truth is somewhere in between obviously and again it seems like we totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:21 PM
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Yes we should acknowledge that both groups struggle with these dynamics. It’s a good place to start being kinder to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:44 PM
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Your take seems to be “have some kind of strategy but know when to quit and don’t take it personally. That I agree with. I disagree with people who act like it’s silly to have a strategy or some people seem to be against literally any guy asserting that something has worked for him. I have been told that myriad normal dating behaviors are somehow immoral or lacking virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:31 PM
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Everyone’s experience is different. In my experience being raised around lots of women is that they say they don’t like it, but they absolutely have biases towards the standard masculine archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:02 PM

Humans are not insects though so looking at closer relatives might be better argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:41 PM
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In my experience the less gentlemanly I act the better it works. A polite gentleman does not a Casanova make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:39 PM
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Mostly because I need a break from cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:36 PM
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Completely disagree. There is a type of PERSON out there who simply cannot handle the insecurity of potentially being less attractive then their S.O. Man or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:33 PM
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Being interesting on paper and being interesting to hang out with are totally different things. Lesson I’m still learning. You can’t just talk about those interests. You need to find the game in the conversation. You need to turn it into banter. It can even be with non sexual situations. For instance chatting with an old timer about the weather could be boring. “Hot out” “yup it’s 95” Vs “Hot out” “yeah but you look like you’re staying cool unc! I’m trying to be chill like you” Boom old timer is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:31 PM
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I was always raised to treat women like people and not a piece of meat. The strange thing is that this has resulted in multiple ladies being confused or sometimes upset that I was not moving fast enough, not being bold enough. I get it women aren’t a monolith, that’s my point. I know that. It seems women think women ARE a monolith when doling out advice. Even if I say “I had success with this technique” women have jumped down my throat about how I’m a scumbag for whatever reason. Often super har…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:23 PM
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I respect your willingness to admit that. I maintain that it’s a piss take.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:15 PM
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Been doing this since I was 13 and I still get lumped in with those “shitty” guys just because I’m a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 08:01 PM
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Then why all the lectures about the wrong way? Also why is the wrong way the right way sometimes? And why is the right way the wrong way sometimes? This is such a cop out and kinda tone deaf take given the life experience of many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:49 PM
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Depends. I’ve never been a jealous person so it wouldn’t bother me. But then again I’ve got major issues because 3/3 my serious relationships have all cheated starting when I was just a kid so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:51 PM
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Bit of a rolling stone and a womanizer. Quite masculine blue collar dude. I way over corrected and did my best to be the sweetest most stable, loyal, successful dude possible. Later in life I realized there was something to his lifestyle and I shouldn’t have let people in my life poison my mind against him. There is a balance to be found in all things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:49 PM
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I think a lot of people were raised that the highest form of politeness is to not inconvenience anyone. Old timers are always stoked to participate in some small talk. Ask any millennial or younger they seem to be allergic to small talk. The narrative changed from being totally okay to “bother” strangers in public to now people are like “they seem busy, wouldn’t want to annoy them” It’s a real mystery why people are all starving for connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:20 PM
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I think their concerns are real. Yet I think it’s kinda fucked up and disingenuous to see a person and say “because of (visible feature) I assume this person is (insert assumption)”. Especially if you are a person who say…. Disagrees with racism or sexism or classism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:15 PM
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Disagree. At some point the resume needs to be presented to a prospective employer. Yes if your a 500lb sack of shit without a job, definitely work on that, get fit, get your money up, dress nice and groom carefully. But if you’re not a garbage gremlin then I think many men have been so discouraged from boldly pursuing romance and sex that overcoming that is more important. You’re not a bad person for flirting, approaching, and respectfully courting ladies. That was always my issue, I was taught…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:05 PM
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I guess I’d say that’s a really negative outlook on the general population. I guess I just have more hope that more people outside of those communities are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:48 PM
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Presumably not everyone at the swingers party has consented to anything and everything. You don’t get to free use everyone at a swingers party.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:01 PM
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Eh I think you still gotta ask and get consent. Swingers clubs are not some free for all where you get to skip steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:58 PM
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This is my beef with the whole “go to therapy” thing. Thats majorly disregarding men’s experiences with even carefully sharing their feelings in a healthy way. Therapy might help you but it won’t heal all those people out there who were socialized to believe it’s ugly or icky for men to be emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:15 PM
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Go ahead and be unique, just know that certain archetypes are the most successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:14 PM
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Just stop talking to them after you hit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:48 PM
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Same way “locker room talk” does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:12 PM
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I hear you dude. I think I’ve gotten lucky a little bit. Just wanted to spread a little hope that there are good ones out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:10 PM
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I guess meaningful pushback might be more accurate. I think having some right wing psycho scream red pill talking points is not why I’m talking about. I mean in close social situations. I see a lot of vitriol for women on the internet. In real life it’s all one way traffic men suck and are evil and the problem. At least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:26 PM
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That’s a good question. I don’t know why more people don’t call out stupid ideas and philosophies in their social circle. I’m working on it and I no longer sit silently and allow “girl talk” to go to unacceptable realms of discourse. I reckon the reason I never did before was because I was cowed by a narrative that said if I didn’t agree then I was a bad person. Like I said, therapy has helped me stand against misandry in my personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:23 PM
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That’s hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:05 PM
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Oof, we agree bubba. Just trying to use this as a teaching moment to maybe de trench people. But go on, I can see your shovel is dry and aches for another scoop of earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:58 PM
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Well, Bad Faithington, it seems you’re still missing the point. I don’t think women are a monolith. So please go spread the word to the people who clearly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:50 PM
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I think part of the issue is when people take a philosophical stance without fully believing or embodying the tenets of that belief system. So you have a bunch of phony feminists out there actually advocating for a kind of loosely goosey pick and choose style of feminism. Just like the idiots who want a subservient housewife but make 40k/year in these trying times and refuse to pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:38 PM
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No, I’m criticizing your response. I said it’s disingenuous because people absolutely have counseled men to treat women as a monolith. It seems like a cop out so you don’t have to acknowledge that experience which many men seem to share. I mean. If you care about being fair to diverse perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:17 PM
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I feel like there’s a narrative that therapists are all left wing psychos. If anything my therapists have taught me lots of things that Reddit feminists might call toxic masculinity. They have helped to enforce that I should take up space and be assertive, call balls and strikes in my social circle and put my foot down when I hear the spewing of bile. It’s tough because ladies are not used to being challenged on this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 05:14 PM
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It is. I’m curious because the advice people give to men and young boys is pretty much based on the idea that women ARE a monolith. Specifically a monolith that despises courtship behaviors of yesteryear and traditional gender roles. So I mean preach but maybe work on targeting the right audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:39 PM
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No ability to flirt or tease. This is IMO the issue. Bunch of people were taught “never do X” without any nuance or balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:03 PM
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Eh I think responses like this are disingenuous especially as many were absolutely taught a million rules as if women were a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:59 PM
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Safety?! Jesus, how big are we talking’?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:19 PM
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Hypocrisy is the thing that bugs me. Be a trad person if you want, be a modern enlightened, egalitarian if you want. Whatever you do, stick to your (proverbial) guns. Don’t be the trad person who refuses to do their respective responsibility as defined by your belief system. If you’re a modern enlightened egalitarian then don’t go moaning about how you wish people were still doing whatever draconian gender role of yesteryear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:17 PM
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