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| 62 | Men got scapegoated for Purity Culture | Debate | Sea_Poppy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 11:34 AM |
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| 0 | What would you describe as unreasonable female standardsSay the arrangement is that I work and she's a SAHM. If she kisses me when I come home from work, it would be in the back of my mind that maybe she's doing it because she feels obligated to. Its my personal preference, but it would feel more genuine if we both are coming at it the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 03:31 PM |
| 2 | What would you describe as unreasonable female standardsThe guy needing to be a 'provider' in general. That's not partnership in my opinion, more of a relic from a culture and economy that's long gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/25 07:14 AM |
| 0 | The largest cohort preventing boys from excelling are precisely the people who say they need to lift themselves from their bootstrapsIf we're talking grade school, which are the formative years for boys and girls - that isn't the case. There's not typically a chain of student teachers or interns helping a prof grade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 09:50 PM |
| 0 | The largest cohort preventing boys from excelling are precisely the people who say they need to lift themselves from their bootstrapsFor one, you do not get rewarded for being honest. You might try your best yet have inferior grades than some kid who paid a nerd to do his homework or used ChatGPT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 09:46 PM |
| 0 | The largest cohort preventing boys from excelling are precisely the people who say they need to lift themselves from their bootstrapsHow could that work? You lose points on assignments for not putting your name, so they have to look at it, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 09:41 PM |
| 2 | The largest cohort preventing boys from excelling are precisely the people who say they need to lift themselves from their bootstrapsIts "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" when the kids are still wearing Sketchers light-ups | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 09:14 PM |
| 6 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?What in the world? Why am I evil hoping to find a relationship where, y'know, people my age are? Weird thing to gripe about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 11:02 PM |
| 1 | What are the effects of women increasingly attending college more than men and them being on the path to start earning more in the future?It felt like they all showed up to college with BFs already | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 07:14 PM |
| 1 | It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends.I will pick them 😄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 07:08 PM |
| -4 | It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends.So you do that, now its okay to go out in skimpier and skimpier clothes to test how secure they are? Theres 100% people that enjoy the power of trying to cause drama and jealousy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 07:00 PM |
| -4 | It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends.Wouldn't a good partner want the other to feel secure, building a mutual sense of 'belonging' to each other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 06:45 PM |
| -2 | It's not mysogynist for guys to tell their gf not to wear revealing clothes or not being comfortable with her going to clubs with her girlfriends.Why skip over being possessive or modest and go straight to insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 06:36 PM |
| 2 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”I'll reframe it. Before you could easily separate sex and romance. Now you open the door to romance, i.e. 'settling down, and the next guy may wonder if sex can really bring you guys closer together romantically. To people that can't separate sex/romance, encounters like that boil down to 'using' a person the same way you might use porn. Its like a body and soul thing, and anything less seems like just your body is being used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 06:35 AM |
| 1 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”I'll reframe it. Before you could easily separate sex and romance. Now you open the door to romance, i.e. 'settling down, and the next guy may wonder can sex really bring you guys closer together? Or is it just a fun thing you guys do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 06:15 AM |
| -4 | How are women who enjoy casual sex “being used?”It was a feel-good transaction to you, but to someone who approaches sex as a bond building thing, it would sound like it's just a tool you use to get your rocks off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 05:38 AM |
| 18 | Nice guys actually do talk to women as people, but women then treat them as "one of the girls"Gotta break a couple eggs to make an omelet - the eggs being the social limits that got levied on us by religion, family, etc. As much as people say that gender roles are changing, the guy is still expected to stick his neck out to get burned as the initiator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 05:09 PM |
| 0 | Society is unintentionally creating more and more angsty single menYes humans are entitled to love and relationships That's a whole can of worms. Maybe entitled isn't the right word. "Deserve" maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Society is unintentionally creating more and more angsty single menCompletely right. Culturally we are so hyperfocused on demonizing what guys do wrong instead of advocating for what guys can do right. It makes me think about parenting styles. You absolutely scream at your child but never reward their good behavior - you get Gru from Despicable Me. Gotta sternly correct bad behavior but actually give good positive direction on top of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 07:45 PM |
| 6 | Society is unintentionally creating more and more angsty single menIt's easy to overcompensate for what you're saying. As guys, if you take a more moderate approach, you risk getting the old "ew why weren't you up front with your feelings. I thought we were friends." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 07:30 PM |
| – | Society is unintentionally creating more and more angsty single menCompletely right. Culturally we are so hyperfocused on demonizing what guys do wrong instead of advocating for what guys can do right. It makes me think about parenting styles. You absolutely scream at your child but never reward their good behavior - you get Gru from Despicable Me. Gotta sternly correct bad behavior but actually give good positive direction on top of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who took "How to talk to men" classes?A course sounds a bit cringe, for guys and gals. I could see reading books about the psychology of dating and self-improvement, but getting coached? Sounds like somebody with an ego monetizing lonely people. End of day, my interactions with the person build my impression of them more than anything. Unless they flat out said they were using me for practice, which would feel odd but I'd shrug it off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 07:04 PM |
| 21 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who took "How to talk to men" classes?For everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who took "How to talk to men" classes?A course? Was it a college elective? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CulturePsychological poison is a very good way to put it. Good on you for being something of an antidote for your brothers and husband. I'm sure they're all thankful for that reassurance and validation, especially coming from the POV of a woman. The taboo can be especially hard to escape from. Just making this post alone has been therapeutic because so many men and women came forward to have a conversation about it. In my day to day life, it has always been a topic I hid away shamefully, even in my own… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/25 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureThanks for the more matured and well-read background. Especially in terms of society "civilizing" the animalistic parts of ourselves, as you put it. That pressure to be civil comes at people from so many angles, as well. (culture > community > church > family > potential partners...) as yep it is conflicting most of the time. And I will carry that Marquis de Sade quote going forward. I've gone too long doing what I was conditioned to think was right and proper. Letting go of that fear to 'transg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/25 06:38 AM |
| 13 | Can there ever be a consensus on penis size for women ?If I say I like average to small size boobs and the girl says I'm lying to make her feel better - its clearly an issue with her own self-image. She wouldn't ask unless worried about it. This goes for you as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 11:10 AM |
| 36 | Single mothers symbolize something deeply painful to a lot of menI'd hate to be in a position where a kid might hit me with a "you're not my dad!" - and slam a door in my face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 03:57 PM |
| 3 | If you can’t get a gf/bf it’s prob bcuz you’re unattractive in some way. People stating this are incorrectly accused of “just world fallacy.”For example, most women aren’t attracted to awkward maladaptive socially inept non-intuitive mannerisms and interpersonal interactions. Ouch, categorically roasted my ass lol Being perceived as unattractive can lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy because you might take that to define you and even act it out. The stoic in me just says, "worry about what's in my control." Getting cerebral about "just world" and what I supposedly deserve is a waste of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 02:41 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date them😂 Never worked for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 01:00 AM |
| 4 | A lot of men complain about the friendzone because they only befriend attractive women to try to date themYou dont reckon there's any nuance in the timing of it? Can't it come too soon and make you look superficial, or come too late and make you seem like a creeper? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 12:42 AM |
| 19 | The Just World Fallacy is one of society's biggest barriers to Dating for MenTo clarify, I'm not pro rejecting inexperienced people. My point is, as a late bloomer, I wouldn't want to be with somebody who is put off my lack of experience anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 11:28 PM |
| 16 | The Just World Fallacy is one of society's biggest barriers to Dating for MenSee what you're saying helps me screen people that I'd consider getting involved with. It's no different than supposedly entry-level jobs rejecting people without experience. In reality, what people say they want and want they really want are not always the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 11:17 PM |
| 6 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureAt a bake sale, my uncle got told off by an Amish man for making eye contact with the girl cashier as he paid. They are still borderline property to men it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 10:35 PM |
| 3 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureEasy there. My family was seriously dysfunctional, and I had to raise and parent myself from a young age. I'm not farming sympathy, just saying that troubled dudes still only have "be a man, figure it out yourself" to fall back on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureSo I've heard. I just feel like a fraud trying be smooth and confident. Women see through it. That's on having crippling anxiety too I guess. My problem to deal with it, no matter what/who caused it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureHard pill to swallow. My family and upbringing did it to me but I've had like Stockholm Syndrome and can't separate from them I guess. I'm into my twenties, of course by now it's it's my knot to entangle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureThe problem is, shedding that upbringing looks different for men and women. For gals, it's making yourself available and conversational, but for guys, it's way more about forwardness and initiative. The confidence that I keep hearing attracts women, I had it robbed from me and taught I had to keep it in check. I'm into my twenties now, it's probably a childish burden to have, but it just weighs on me. Hoping I can break out more as I move out of the house I grew up in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:29 PM |
| 10 | Men got scapegoated for Purity Culturefrustrated 'nice guys' who internalize the narrative Thanks for your comment. It really speaks to what's going on in my head and where it's coming from. I've had women flirt with me, and even then, it felt like I was doing something wrong and unnatural. I've always been frozen by what should naturally have been excitement and butterflies in my stomach. and you should pedestalize women rather than tease or joke with them - which are far more damaging. It's a hell of thing to unlearn now that it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:17 PM |
| 2 | The obsession with getting women to “admit” they prefer big dicks is hurting menIt definitely is a self-own. You would ask unless it was small 😆 What kinda guy is meat watching other dudes any way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 01:13 PM |
| 3 | Men got scapegoated for Purity Cultureit is up to men to fill this void of positive guidance Yes, for sure. And it is tragic that guys can end up looking in the wrong places for that guidance. rather than either demonizing sexuality or celebrating The pendulum swung back pretty hard, and its got people going crazy with their body just to fit in or because of FOMO. I think social media propagates that pretty heavily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:54 PM |
| 9 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureTate is a grifter. Telling young kids to get their money up, get a lambo, and attract gold diggers is his style. Influencer slop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureThe blame game doesn't seem constructive to me. I didn't ask to have distant parents or to get indoctrinated at church. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:21 PM |
| 9 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CulturePreaching to the choir. What's horrific is that my church started off the conversation with "youre an animal and a sinner at heart" as opposed to "your feelings are natural and you can build a healthy relationship on them". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:18 PM |
| 6 | Men got scapegoated for Purity CultureI guess the best example I had was Boy Scouts. Lots of skills, life lessons, and teamwork. Sports can give young guys an avenue to grow in, too. But having a dysfunctional family or no role models can and does screw people over | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 12:07 PM |
| 5 | Men are the ones who really settle<image> The literal post above this in my feed was a woman admitting she settled lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 10:01 PM |
| 9 | Men are finding out what happens when they bring nothing to the tableBy your logic, Leo Decaprio brings money and status to the table. Its only natural he gets the young empty headed blonde he's looking for, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 05:08 PM |
| 17 | Men are finding out what happens when they bring nothing to the tableAt least we know this post isn't AI because of the tangible malice, lol. What's to debate here, really? If you can't filter out the hypocrites and entitled deadbeats-in-training, it's a you problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 04:57 PM |
| 3 | There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety.Are you familiar with social awareness? I can wave at somebody, and they dont have to wave back. They have agency and can do whatever. Say I wave at someone who says "how dare you"" and slaps me. Why would I be a bitter incel and never wave at anyone again? Instead, I'd use my social awareness. Build rapport with them beforehand. Read the room. Because I'm not entitled to them waving back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/25 10:47 AM |
| 3 | There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety.It's not obligatory, but you're stepping into pussy territory if you don't step up for hypothetical women/girls in your life that are in over their heads in some way. But not in every context, of course. I wouldn't say be their white knight at every opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 11:53 PM |
| 44 | There is no point in telling women theyre not entitled to safety.Nit picking that character flaw in incels is kinda low-hanging fruit. The nuances of their entitlement are coming from an underlying belief in their "superiority" and that relationships are purely transactional. There's no dialog to be had when they have no social awareness, treating women like NPC's in The Sims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 11:44 PM |
| 4 | The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from womenSeeking approval would be synonymous with being a simp, we're aware that leads to downward spiral. More so, I think culture is telling guys, "focus on yourself, and good things will come." Not so much to be a doormat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/25 01:17 AM |
| 2 | If you cant admit you want a hookup, dont get angry you cant get immediate sex from your date.There is a clearly sunk-cost fallacy involved with playing the dating game as a guy. The guy sinks time and effort into landing the date, spitting his game the whole time, and potentially paying for them. Depending on her responses, he has to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze because that is the position men are in. Unless they're a D1 football player, hardly any dude is getting action trying to smash on the first date. Normal dudes have to play the game. Side note: fuck hookup culture. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 10:09 PM |
| 4 | A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?”Lol, it's me, I'm the anxiety-riddled one. As long as you're having the sex that both you and your partenr WANT to be having, she's going to be thinking about the sex she's having with you. That's what you should want, not trying to recreate the sex she's had in completely different circumstances. This is the most hopeful insight I've seen in a while, as someone with no experience who's paralyzed by what-ifs. The healthy thing is to focus on the present and what I'm building with her, not meetin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 08:05 PM |
| 9 | A general criticism of the “but they slept with x person on the first date, why not me?”The idea that for now on, I DON'T LOVE any future partners if I don't take them home immediately to shag at the same speed is insane. I don't know if I could look past that maybe my potential partner is capable of raw desire - but only in the context of a fling rather than manifesting it in a more personal way. That might make me a hopeless romantic. How could I know whether her desire for me is a genuine attraction, a means to keep the relationship going, or a raw but fleeting whim like several… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 07:34 PM |
| 24 | Way too many guys on dating apps are clingy and most likely conflate that with being a good lover.As a very closed-off guy w/ no experience dating, I take stuff like this to heart. I can't fathom how these dudes around me pour their soul out on women the second they get shown an ounce of kindness. Ive had it destroy my friend groups, lead to really uncomfortable conversations, stalking, etc. It must come down to putting women on a pedestal. They skip the whole getting to know this human being step and reduce them to a caricature of the perfect GF in their imagination. I'm so much in the oppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 10:57 AM |
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