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Was she hot tho?
/r/seduction02/09/23 03:29 AM
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Probably true, the ones truly in love might not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:20 AM
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What’s a skinny soy boy weight?
/r/seduction01/05/23 03:21 AM
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Exactly!! Who knows if she even wanted him as a bf or just the thrill of being taken out by a celebrity!
/r/seduction05/10/22 03:28 AM
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that's not what anti-slut defense means, its when a woman feels she needs to resist a little even though she wants to have sex in order to not be considered a slut who gave it up immediately
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:19 AM
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Agree good pints my man!
/r/seduction03/10/22 07:38 PM
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He doesn’t really seem like he has a lot of charisma, more of the dorky funny type is my impression.
/r/seduction03/10/22 07:36 PM
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Ya that’s a good one thanks for sending, but this girl in the video has vey positive body language with her body open and pointing towards the guy. What to do if her body language is pointing forward and away from you? That’s what happened to me and it was a tough one.
/r/seduction03/10/22 06:44 PM
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Escalating via touch while taking on the couch or something? Its not always easy. I had a girl over once after dinner and we were sitting on the couch talking and I kept trying to escalate and all she wanted to do is talk I was like wtf. What can u do if they want to go at a snails pace but they are still over at night but u don’t want to turn into a friendship where u just talk all night and do nothing lol
/r/seduction03/10/22 06:34 PM
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Yeah agree but there is a also an expiration time with female attraction. If all they do is sit and talk, doesn’t it trend towards friends?
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:54 PM
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its not because they didn't even have sex, it might be borderline assault tho but even that is questionable because she had the ability to leave at anytime without any resistance from him. She chose to stay and willingly agree to oral sex when she could have said no and walked out. Now, if he stopped her from leaving, then that would have been criminal.
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:52 PM
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exactly, all she needed to say was i don't want this and leave, no harm no foul.
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:51 PM
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do you think she wanted it to happen? In another words, maybe she stayed bc he is a star but didn't want sex because she wasn't physically attracted? Or do you think he just failed with his seduction technique to escalate properly? If its the latter, how would you have done it?
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:50 PM
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exactly - i wonder if he would have gotten sex if he slowed down and talked more on the couch and stuff or she still would have said no? How do you think he should have done it?
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:49 PM
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Fully agree - I will add that she was not a Hollywood type but he is. That is probably the only reason he got her as far as he did tbh. He still had a chance to bang her on that first date though - I think probably should have gotten on the couch and talked and slowly escalated and then stop when she shows hesitance and then try again if she seems open still. Its hard though because women sometimes want to do the push pull hard to get thing with the thought in mind that they will eventually give…
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:48 PM
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He didn't get her in bed though? He tried to but failed, at least that was my read? He totally should have slowed down and escalated slowly I think.
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:45 PM
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Agree, I'd say not at all handsome but, as a famous person recently said, if you are a star, they will let you do anything to them including grab them by the....
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:44 PM
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what should have he done differently? I'd say he should have gone a bit slower and escalated. Instead he just put her on the counter and went for it, he probably thought he had her in the bag.
/r/seduction03/10/22 05:43 PM
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what's an example of something that one can learn that is trasnformative?
/r/seduction14/07/22 07:32 PM
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look it up where?
/r/seduction14/07/22 07:32 PM
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what is an example of something u learned or know of someone learning that was so great?
/r/seduction14/07/22 07:30 PM
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not just my experience, many friends experiences and books I've read on the topic too. Of course I know what looks are subjective means. I think women's attraction is very complex and women cannot understand it. You will hear countless stories of women, actresses, models, etc. who have talk about how they were not initially attracted to their husband and now are madly in love and in a happy fulfilling marriage. I think women want to feel that they know immediately because it makes them feel in c…
/r/seduction09/07/22 05:55 AM
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it does because the hottest women generally will not be attracted to a nice guy but an average or below average woman is more likely to.....this has been my observation of tendencies over many years
/r/seduction08/07/22 07:34 AM
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Ur probably not a hot woman tho no offense
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:45 PM
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what are some examples of things to say when meeting in person? You look beautiful?
/r/seduction27/06/22 05:09 AM
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when you say some girls are just slow, how long do you think is the normal range of how long it can take for building the bond and all?
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:25 AM
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there is no sexting here, just some initial flirtation
/r/seduction18/05/22 07:50 AM
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what do u mean by "savor complex" - like she is looking for a guy to save her?
/r/seduction20/04/22 06:50 PM
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why is she an expired product? 36 isn’t that old?
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:30 PM
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what does that mean for the guy trying to date her?
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:19 PM
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like how? i noticed a woman said she loves gardening and but doesn't get to do it as often as she wanted and he said "are we still talking about gardening" - is that what u mean or how do u do it? lol
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:27 AM
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Craig Ferguson on YouTube great point! Just saw a few, wow he is good! Any particular stuff you use from him in your dates?
/r/seduction20/04/22 06:30 AM
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thanks, these are great! Do you think making these comments creates a spark in a woman? Let's say you are going on a date with a hot woman who is feeling 50-50 on you but trying to make up her mind based on this date. Do you think these kinds of comments would get her to feel a spark?
/r/seduction20/04/22 06:02 AM
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ya but the point is how do they decide they want to fuck you or not. For me, its all the looks. For women, its a ton of stuff including how they are teased and how they are sexually talked to. Do u see what i mean?
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:57 AM
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Great analogy! Can you give me some examples that have worked for you? I am HORRIBLE at this but I am also in a older age dating pool of late 30s.
/r/seduction19/04/22 07:26 AM
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well i meant it like in a subtle manner - like if she says, what did u do last night? I say that I had a quiet dinner with a friend (assuming I did) which might get her mind to think I was on a date.
/r/seduction19/04/22 07:24 AM
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on a first date you do this? And the woman likes it? I would think, even if she is interested in you, it might be off-putting and make her feel creeped out? Women have all kinds of things to worry about on a daily basis that we don't like rape, assault, etc.
/r/seduction19/04/22 07:23 AM
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what are some good ones that have worked for you? I struggle with this but I am also in a much older 40 year old dating pool.
/r/seduction19/04/22 07:22 AM
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how many would u make? if u do too many, then u will look like a sex obsessed pscyho
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:04 PM
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i think if a guy makes a move too fast and she is not comfortable, the girl will run away. She has to give some basic signals u can't just go on a date and grab the ass and kiss her lol
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:03 PM
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how many would u do in a first date? I think too many would make u look like sex obsessed
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:02 PM
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are u male or female?
/r/seduction18/04/22 09:01 PM
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very true! and u can kind of laugh at the same time to make it clear its like a light hearted joke - have u tried doing it? I am going to have to see how it works when I go on the next date, no clue how it will go.
/r/seduction18/04/22 06:32 PM
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yes! me too! HUGE problem. What do you think ur doing wrong? Are ur dates from dating apps? What kind of dates? Such a struggle, or they will say "no spark" or "not a romantic connection" and i'm sick of it
/r/seduction18/04/22 05:36 PM
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depends on how much they are into u, if they are starting to feel attached, i think the jealousy would overcome them and they would ask
/r/seduction18/04/22 05:35 PM
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do they ask about who she is?
/r/seduction18/04/22 05:27 PM
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but why use the word friend?
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:52 PM
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ok I agree with you and your example here is excellent but this kind of chat cannot go on for the entire evening? Let's say I spend 3-4 hour with the woman or even 5 hours, there will inevitably be some stories that are shared between each other. What kind of stories to share? I'm not saying I want to make up a fake story or something but I have a lot of stories I could share and I would rather share one that boosts attraction and not a neutral one or even a negative attraction story. Know what …
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:31 AM
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i agree, the flirty sexual part has been very hard for me coming off a long failed 10 yr relationship in which intimacy was completely gone towards the end. I feel like i am having to re learn this bc it was not this hard when i was last single. I met this amazing girl but she is not yet feeling the spark at the level she should and we have stalled at make outs after a good amount of dates. Any tips for me?
/r/seduction29/03/22 08:39 PM
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no no, i want to tell true factual stories from my past but i want to know which ones would generate the most attraction. See i’m very loyal to my family and close friends and i told a date a story about that but it didn’t seem to generate any great response so i’m trying to understand what kind of stories would. Someone told me the stories that are the best tend to have subtle sexual implications that can get her excited but no clue what that means
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:36 PM
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where did you go out to meet all these new 20 somethings people?
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:49 AM
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Trust me, I LOVE your advice and I think it is amazing. I see your points and you are right, there could be some potential problems with a club. What about a formal gala dance dress up type event? We went to a bar type place already, and I did that kind of touch that you describe and things like putting my arm around her when walking. There was even one point in the night where I said something and she said "ohh smooooth" and yet it all ended in a very short kiss and she didn't want to do more o…
/r/seduction22/03/22 05:55 AM
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what a stupid comment from a stupid person
/r/seduction20/03/22 02:59 AM
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i see, why is it better than what i said? just trying to understand
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:34 PM
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find what funny?
/r/seduction17/03/22 06:33 PM
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great suggestion, thanks!
/r/seduction16/03/22 11:18 PM
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this is what you are suggesting to say back? lol why?
/r/seduction16/03/22 11:09 PM
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nice! thanks! Or maybe "If you keep drinking for breakfast, I am filing for divorce and taking the kids" lol
/r/seduction16/03/22 09:21 PM
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but bars don't have dance floors? She likes dancing a lot and I think its a good opportunity to get more touchy on the dance floor? Like try to put my leg in between hers while dancing or spin her around or even take her hands and put them around my neck? In a bar, I would just be sitting with her?
/r/seduction16/03/22 09:20 PM
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true true - maybe I will just ignore it? Sometimes ignoring causes sexual tension and she wonders why he didn't respond? And then ask her out?
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:18 PM
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okay so I should have just said let's go back to my place and watch a movie or something like that and then escalate? What do you think about going to a club/dancing with her?
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:17 PM
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We are both older, aged 39. We both want serious and have had failed relationships. Not hookups. However, all we have done is make out through several dates. After the first few dates, she said she wants just friendship. I said no politely but she messaged me here and there for the next few months so I asked her out again. This time we made out and it was better. All this time, I continue to go on other dates and learn how to get back in rhythm, However, we have stalled at making out. Maybe I cr…
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:14 PM
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That is true. What does it mean if I bring her over like that for dinner and wine, but I am not able to get any phsyical progress? Does it mean I'm out and should move on?
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:11 PM
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okay, but I didn't even pay for everything. She offered to pay and paid 1/3rd and I paid 2/3rd and she paid for desert. I agree that dinner doesn't allow easy escalation but she had said she really wanted to go check out this restaurant. Outside of bar/pub, what are other places to go for escalation? Do you think this woman's 50-50 feelings mean I am pretty much out? When she says things like "my feelings for you (me) are slow and that's ok sometimes they go slow and sometimes fast in dating and…
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:10 PM
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ok got it, so what should I have done when we were done with dinner and she was excited to go for desert and then drinks? Should I have instead said no? How to re-direct the date?
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:59 PM
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thanks! why? You mean "I thought we agreed that you would stop drinking for breakfast?" and that's it? To make it shorter and concise?
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:58 PM
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This is so awesome, thank you! You must be a professional! So, if the date was 6 hours long (dinner, then desert, then drinks), what percentage of the 6 hours of conversation would you roughly say should be this kind of playful banter? And what percentage should be answering her questions seriously? I've heard its also good to have some stories to tell her that display good qualities that display high value (DHV) - do you agree?
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:50 PM
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it doesn't need to turn sexual in text you are correct. However, I have stalled out with this particular girl at making out and, in general, I have been turning dates with all women into friend interactions. So, I'm going back to the drawing board. I used to do this perfectly fine but just got out of an 8 year relationship. This particular girl said "the spark is not entirely there" for her and that "her feelings have been slow with you (me) and that sometimes its slow and sometimes fast and bot…
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:26 AM
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well in general i have been turning dates into friend interactions. So, I'm going back to the drawing board. I used to do this perfectly fine but just got out of an 8 year relationship. I stalled with this particular girl at making out and she said things like "the spark is not entirely there" for her and that "her feelings have been slow with me and that sometimes its slow and sometimes fast and both are ok" so I told her we should take a break. I think those statements are concerning in genera…
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:24 AM
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but does that really make it sexual? See, my struggle right now is that I i just got out of a 8 year relationship where all intimacy was lost and it became friends and I've taken that vibe into dating and I am creating friend vibes with women on dates. Its now been feedback from 4 different women and this one is the first one that I at least got to make out status but its stalled there. She said her feelings are slower with me and that sometimes they can be like that and its ok. However, I don't…
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:21 AM
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no - see above. That was not written well by me. I was describing her own personality as in this girls and not my ex. I was basically joking with her by not answering her question and instead describing her own personality as a red flag because she kept asking me about others red flags. Does that make sense? Given that, does your advice change?
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:12 AM
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no, no no - I didn't write it clearly. I was describing her own personality as in this girls and not my ex. I was basically joking with her by not answering her question and instead describing her own personality as a red flag because she kept asking me about others red flags. Does that make sense? Given that, does your advice change?
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:11 AM
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i hear you but it has been hard in the time of the pandemic and i'm 39. This woman is 37 and she actually has not dated at all. She incidentally told me she has not been dating or meeting men for over a year since her last breakup. She said I was the first guy she kissed in a long time. I believe it because she works 7 days a week, goes to bed very early, and is super focused on her career and somewhat jaded to guys after failed relationships. I do have oneitis but my goal isn't to just bang wom…
/r/seduction15/03/22 07:25 PM
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i know, u totally did, but sometimes i feel frustrated because of how hard dating has been since my 8 year relationship and i wonder if i have already missed the boat with this particular woman and should just move on. Sometimes if a guy doesn't make a move quickly enough with a woman, the woman's attraction has an expiration date. Whereas with us men, we can always have sex if we find her attractive.
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:49 PM
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Well that's the problem, I don't know exactly how to escalate and when I do, I think I do it tentatively and I get a neutral response. I put my arm around her and she doesn't refuse it but she doesn't put hers back around me. Or I will say something flirty and she says "ohh smoooth." I always give her a huge hug when I greet her and she does back and then I kiss her on the side of the head and then open the door for her to sit in and, as you said, guide her in by touch on the lower back. I can n…
/r/seduction15/03/22 05:54 AM
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Make-out and I was stroking her back and abs area but no holding hands or anything. As you can see from the original post, I did a terrible job with escalation and kino and all. I was kind of happy to even get the make-outs because my game has been SO rusty since my 8 years out of dating. She is ok continuing to hang out but I've decided to pause because it was not escalating enough and I want to go back to the drawing board on how to fix these friend vibes that I am creating. So, for now, I am …
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:47 PM
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thank you so much for taking the time to respond and all these details! Great suggestions and I appreciate it! Just curious, are you female? I assume so by your picture. One thing I noticed in your response was that you didn't suggest anything sexual in response such as a a teasing innuendo or something. One of my friends said that when she told me my blazer looks good on me, I could have said something like "It does but it would look better on your bedroom floor" - what do you think of that? Is…
/r/seduction10/03/22 07:31 AM
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i don't know if its friendzone though because we have made out 5 or 6 times? I think its like mixed feelings? Its frustrating because I really effed up at the beginning and now I'm trying to see if I can erase all those initial friend feelings. Any tips? Is it even possible? I'm still dating others too so I'm not focusing exclusively on her but I like her the best so far of the ones I've been dating.
/r/seduction10/03/22 07:22 AM
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true but i should add a bit more background. We had gone on a few dates several months ago and, at that time, she said she wants friendship. At that time, I was even more out of sorts on dating. Now, I have a bit more experience and practice, but still not even 30% of the way back to my old form. When she asked about friendship, I said no thanks and we looked to be headed in separate ways. However, she messaged me on instagram here and there so after 3-4 months, I asked her out again and this wa…
/r/seduction10/03/22 12:23 AM
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thank you! You are 100% correct! But how do you get that she is "obviously into me?" The kiss she gave me at night was very short and once it started to get to a makeout, she laughed and wiggled away. It made me feel like she wasn't into it and was just testing to see if there was a spark or something. I thought I was a MASSIVE fail on this date and I am not even sure if I will get another date or will be flaked on. I created a very boring night.
/r/seduction09/03/22 09:28 PM
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slip in what? i’m confused what ur referring to
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:59 PM
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are u?
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:58 PM
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awesome, i bet it did work!
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:57 PM
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yes! can u share more details of what you did, what the vibe was when u did it, and then what happened after?
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:06 PM
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why not? women do whether its intentional or unintentional
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:05 PM
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seduction, manipulation, the game of dating, its all a game and all the same thing
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:05 PM
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lol i think u have to be a bit more advanced in ur relationship with her to be able to ask her to be blind folded and taste things, i'm referring more to like first couple of dates
/r/seduction21/02/22 06:40 PM
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lol just tell us what u said exactly? I'm pretty sure u didn't say do u want to suck on my strawberry and then claimed plausible deniability?! LOL
/r/seduction21/02/22 08:06 AM
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lol i like that one! I did that once, I said I'm a celibate who plans to practice abstinence for life
/r/seduction20/02/22 08:12 PM
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really u said "that's what she said" - did it work, how did she respond? The collarbone one too, how did she respond to that one?
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:07 PM
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any good specific convo example? i don’t know how u would do it with strawberry or a pastry?
/r/seduction20/02/22 04:22 PM
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how did u say it? how did u get her to think it was about sex and not just something legit wet?
/r/seduction20/02/22 04:21 PM
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at plausible deniability sexual teasing? can u link me?
/r/seduction20/02/22 04:19 PM
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what percent accept and what percent reject?
/r/seduction03/02/22 11:05 PM
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do u do this? how does it usually go? sincerely curious.
/r/seduction03/02/22 10:45 PM
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on the first date?!
/r/seduction03/02/22 10:40 PM
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what are some examples of what to say/do on a coffee date to escalate, push for sex, and show a romantic interest?
/r/seduction03/02/22 09:28 PM
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sure tell me more, where do u usually meet women?
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:12 PM
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Mix up my game how because of dating older ppl?
/r/seduction03/02/22 10:45 AM
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thank you! How do I do it? I think you are right on the mark. How did you get it back? How did you change being "too friendly" and "jokes have no edge" and "way too nice" - you are soo right because those are all of my issues. Maybe I should have a list of jokes before the date that I can use, what are examples of edgy jokes?
/r/seduction03/02/22 10:44 AM
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thanks! Where do u meet these women now that ur older?
/r/seduction03/02/22 10:42 AM
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hmmmm ok? First of all women at 35, can still have babies. Second, I can still date women in their late 20s. So I'm not sure what ur point is?
/r/seduction03/02/22 10:41 AM
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just curious but what does he do or say to make u feel validated, sexy and impressive every day? Is it just a lot of complements? Or what specifically?
/r/seduction03/02/22 07:42 AM
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what kind of pic did she post specifically?
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:06 PM
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spin plates? what does that mean, is this a concept from that one book?
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:04 PM
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lol this is smooth
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:02 PM
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such as?
/r/seduction02/02/22 06:44 AM
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you didn't get rejected - neither of those are rejections. In fact, "lol" can be a flirty thing. Just ask her firmly and confidently, like "Dinner at 6pm at ____ on Saturday night, I will pick u up" - it doesn't have to be dinner but whatever it is just firm date/time and make it easy for her to go by offering to pick her up.
/r/seduction16/01/22 07:26 AM
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what is warmer and masculine behind the ears and on the wrists? Any examples?
/r/seduction22/12/21 02:21 AM
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seated sets? what's that?
/r/seduction10/12/21 11:48 PM
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where would you say have been your best places to do cold approaches? And by that I mean where the targets are high quality, more likely to be single, and decently receptive?
/r/seduction10/12/21 06:35 AM
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did u actually pick up the IG girls on IG? If so, how? I follow random attractive women sometimes and they follow me back but its hard to get them to meet in real life even though do things like "like" my pics and all
/r/seduction01/12/21 04:08 PM
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but is it true the context of the book is club type scenes and scenarios?
/r/seduction27/11/21 12:50 AM
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i agree but i think if the texting is sexual teasing type texting its ok? At least it has worked for me when its that type of texting and has not worked for me when its small type texting, thoughts? Does he book talk about that?
/r/seduction26/11/21 03:13 AM
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ya i think the ideal is a combo of both
/r/seduction26/11/21 03:12 AM
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foundation how?
/r/seduction26/11/21 02:58 AM
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hang out, have fun, and hook up is SO general? Do they go into details of how to specifically go from have fun to hook up? Sometimes the woman could be having fun in friend way too? I think the details are what makes the difference.
/r/seduction26/11/21 02:58 AM
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is this more sex focused? Can you give an example of a lesson you learned from each of these books?
/r/seduction26/11/21 02:39 AM
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The game by Strauss, right? It seems its kind of like picking up at a club for sex type of seduction? Is that a correct characterization of the book? I'm looking for something that teaches seduction for the purpose of a meaningful relationship. Would I get that in The Game?
/r/seduction24/11/21 09:00 AM
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It seems to my mystery method is kind of like picking up at a club for sex type of seduction? I haven't seen Models though. I'm looking for something that teaches seduction for the purpose of a meaningful relationship. Would I get that in either Mystery Method or Models?
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:59 AM
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Thanks! Lots of ppl mentioning the first 2 but have not heard of models - what would you say each of these teach? I'm looking for how to learn to seduce for the purpose of a serious relationship and not so much for just pickup in a night club for sex type of a thing.
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:57 AM
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interesting, a lot of ppl are saying 3% man in particular - what would u say is an example of a very good concept learned from it?
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:56 AM
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interesting, a lot of ppl are saying these 2 - what would u say is an example of a very good concept learned from each of these? There are so many books, I'm trying to understand what type of things each one is teaching.
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:55 AM
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but isn't mystery method about more of the cold approach or the pickup in a night club and bang type? From what I understand of that book, it doesn't go into the actual dating type stuff?
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:49 AM
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are you saying this for women? I'm male.
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:29 AM
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thanks! Isn't t this book for females? I'm a male.
/r/seduction24/11/21 08:25 AM
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I've heard of this one before actually - is this available to download online? I don't see it on Amazon. What was the best thing you learned from it?
/r/seduction23/11/21 08:45 PM
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is this available online? I don't see it on Amazon. What was the best thing you learned from it?
/r/seduction23/11/21 08:45 PM
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by Neil Strauss? What's so good about it? It seems very much pick up and day game type stuff?
/r/seduction23/11/21 08:43 PM
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r u female?
/r/seduction18/11/21 07:50 PM
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agree but i think what i'm saying is that this i interpreted what u said (and agree with u) in that this is not really a true friendzone situation. I think a true friendzone situation is where the guy has been put into a purely platonic category.
/r/seduction06/11/21 07:34 PM
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By the way you know the friendzone in this scenario is just her not thinking it's working out right? I didn't understand what you meant by this?
/r/seduction06/11/21 06:13 PM
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agree on kissing! So if its not friendzone but not thinking its working out, what does that mean for my prospects? That sounds like a good thing because friendzone is far worst?
/r/seduction06/11/21 05:33 AM
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was that really the phrase u used "do you want to hookup?" or was it something softer like "do you want to go back to my place"?
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:40 AM
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i don't doubt it works for u - i'm just asking how it plays out? Its an intriguing approach honestly and 6 straight is impressive.
/r/seduction30/10/21 04:41 AM
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I totally agree on the hugs and someone told me this in this sub, maybe it was you? The advice was to really give the girl a big hug and wrap ur arms around her fully and not one of those weak friend side hugs. I did this and I think she responded really well, I even squeezed her a little and she did back. I think you are on the mark, it shows confidence and clarifies the intentions.
/r/seduction29/10/21 08:26 PM
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true good point - what are some of the escalation techniques that have worked best for u when making the first move?
/r/seduction29/10/21 05:55 AM
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but then wouldn't she just let go after crossing the road? This girl is a bit shy so that is why I have to think of this beforehand. In past dates, it feels like all i have to do is brush the girls hand and it just automatically goes into hand holding lol.
/r/seduction29/10/21 02:31 AM
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haha and then what does the girl usually do? Laugh? Or say something? Or just go with it? Its an interesting idea but it also kind of feels like some girls might think its cute and some might think its like a trick or a gimmick lol. Plus she has to kind of interlock her fingers into ur hand or otherwise its like ur just pulling her along by dragging her hand? lol.
/r/seduction29/10/21 02:22 AM
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lol i like it, so u just grab it...and then she will lock in so that the fingers are interlocked?
/r/seduction29/10/21 02:15 AM
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Thank you! I credit Reddit! I do all those things in terms of putting hand on her shoulder or lower back. I just have not been able to go for the kiss quite yet bc she is shy I think. I need to do it smooth. I like the sitting on the bench description you gave but what if I put my hand around her and she does nothing, like doesn't come closer or pull away? I can see this happening but not sure. The one awkward kiss we had I put my hand around her but she didn't' come closer. Then eventually I ju…
/r/seduction28/10/21 07:27 PM
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I would say just focus on improving yourself always regardless if its about women or not. You want to lose the weight for your own health. As for women, attraction is usually not all about looks for them as much as it is for guys. Women like personality, style, intelligence, presence, and a lot of things. Just always have the forever improvement mindset and the girls will come on their own. You are only 19 so you will have plenty of opportunities if you just focus on your own personal growth and…
/r/seduction16/09/21 12:57 AM
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is speed dating good? Do good quality women come to those? I always see speed dating events but I never go. I figure why would attractive women go to that?
/r/seduction15/09/21 06:15 PM
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where did he bang the women if he had no home? At their place?
/r/seduction15/09/21 06:00 PM
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why not just go after the waitresses when eating at the restaurant? You can complement them that they have pretty eyes or something and then at the end of the meal, write your number on the receipt and tell them to text you. I figure try this with 100 hot waitresses, at least 10 might text?
/r/seduction15/09/21 05:59 PM
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haaha but what if u still suck then u might do more harm to ur chance at the women then good
/r/seduction10/09/21 12:14 AM
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what if you are HORRIBLE at dancing?
/r/seduction09/09/21 11:26 PM
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this is awesome! I actually have read about using palm reading on dates before but I like the detail you went into, especially holding her hand with both hands and then bringing it back to the date. I think you probably need to include at least one actual true palm reading capability into it - I think the two main lines for example are heart and health (first one relationship and second one longevity of life) - I forget exactly which one is which but probably need to at least know we are sorta k…
/r/seduction07/09/21 05:54 AM
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what's a womanizer? i thought that was a guy who dated lots of women at the same time?
/r/seduction05/09/21 08:37 AM
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but how do u know girl in OP post is attached? What if they are not attached? Then ignoring won't do anything?
/r/seduction01/09/21 09:27 PM
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People are all responding with very direct and conclusive advice but we know very little details of OP situation. What age are they? How does he know her? Has he talked to her in person before and, if so, why is he asking out over snapchat? In my honest opinion, no one can give perfect advice unless these and other full details are known.
/r/seduction01/09/21 05:13 PM
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what wonders does it work? What happens when you remove all social media connections to her?
/r/seduction01/09/21 05:11 PM
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for sure, good luck to u!
/r/seduction31/08/21 04:23 PM
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if there isn't a lot of ppl there, u can say "hey i havn't met u yet, whats ur name" but this only works for a small crowd where the implication is that u have met everyone else there If its a lot of random ppl in the bar, then u could just sit down next to her and get a drink and then make some comment u think will get a reply like "is it always this crazy on the weekends?" - bottom line, it doesn't have to be super complicated
/r/seduction31/08/21 05:44 AM
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which city are u from in Canada?
/r/seduction28/08/21 06:49 AM
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What city are you in?
/r/seduction28/08/21 06:19 AM
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where do u meet younger girls? any tips? I'm a similar age as u but I find it hard to meet younger girls and the online dating matches are always older.
/r/seduction23/08/21 06:17 PM
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agree, its a red flag because that person is too overly judgey and quick to take drastic steps (stop talking altogether simply bc a person asked for social media?!)
/r/seduction23/08/21 04:09 PM
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ya but i'm talking about the feeing of attachment
/r/seduction16/08/21 09:28 PM
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i don't know about that - women care about appearance but not anywhere near as much as men which is why you will often see ugly guys with hot women - it could be bc they are rich or powerful or something entirely different like they have a great personality with a lot of game
/r/seduction16/08/21 03:17 PM
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did you end up hooking up with the blonde or at least trying to? lol
/r/seduction16/08/21 03:16 PM
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How long were you with this ex? Had it originally been a long-term thing?
/r/seduction15/08/21 10:29 PM
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mercenary sex as in do what ever it takes to fulfil their own desires? Women are also kind of indecisive. It kind of depends on how long the relationship was between these two. Was it like 5 years? Or was it 5 months? If it was 5 years, it can totally happen that she fell out of love but still cares to see he is ok. If it was 5 months, then yes it could more as you are describing. Where she hoped to get better, couldn't, got rejected herself, and now wants to come back to this guy to either pick…
/r/seduction15/08/21 10:28 PM
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lol this is quite a LOT to conclude from such limited information given by the OP. I mean it could also be that they just didn't fit and she wants to see how he is handling the breakup.
/r/seduction14/08/21 06:07 PM
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which apps do u use? I think its easier in some ways but harder in some ways because there are probably a million guys trying to match with the same women who are either attractive or somewhat attractive enough (so who knows if u will get a response even if ur significantly better than her other options or if she is even checking all the profiles?) meanwhile the really unattractive ones probably get no match but ho wants to have sex with them?
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:50 AM
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I'd say subtle touch back even if its just on the arm or hand or, more aggressive, the thigh above the knee. You can also laugh and then playfully shove or "pretend hit" the guy. Laughing a lot is def. good. You can also ask for a masage, i'd say things like that.
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:47 AM
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lol...oh its the "the dating doc" again?! Surely this post must be true! Especially since this dating doc claims to be making ridiculous amounts of money giving dating advice yet comes on this thread and forces his/her dating advice down people's throats who do not want it from this so called "dating doc" LOL
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:44 AM
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100%, why does this person keep posting if they 'make sooooo much money'
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:41 AM
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lol have u heard that phrase when u think everyone around is crazy, maybe ur the crazy one? just like when u think everyone around u is a child (And that ur one of the "few adults here", that maybe ur the one who is not the adult). If the proof is in the money u make, then why do u keep posting here? Go enjoy it. Because no one really believes ur a dating coach or finds ur advice to be true or helpful here.
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:40 AM
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thank you, i appreciate that!
/r/seduction11/08/21 07:37 AM
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lol interesting, i like the confidence - do u get hit on a lot?
/r/seduction11/08/21 06:36 AM
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not totally true, i've met a lot of women on social media that have become dates and hookups. You don't have to have a balla life but just be interesting and fun
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:07 PM
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i know - but what would u have done? I don't disagree with u on this
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:06 PM
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lol that's actually kind of an interesting idea, sometimes they get jealous lol. Actually the last time I got a friend speech from a girl, I just stopped talking to her and then she eventually came back asking why I stopped talking to her. And I kept ignoring her and then she finally just said she wants to date but at that point I was dating someone so it was over.
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:06 PM
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lol true but once in a while good opinions
/r/seduction10/08/21 07:04 PM
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because, for one, you get very easily offended and two, you are very quick to incorrectly judge things and three, none of what you are sharing is consistent with what happens in the real world. Sexual tension is not some sort of manipulation or hypnosis as you seem to think. Its just simply respectful flirtation with a purpose. Yet, you seem to not comprehend this and keep insisting that its some sort of evil. Being open and being yourself IS sexual tension but its just a matter of how to do it,…
/r/seduction10/08/21 06:19 PM
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i don't mind hearing/learning from others experiences and ideas. I'm open minded and I don't believe I have all the answers.
/r/seduction10/08/21 06:13 PM
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well, I think you can keep a mystery and have social media at the same time. Also, Instagram makes it very easy to meet people bc anyone can follow anyone and then strike up a convo which can then lead to phone number exchange and then in person hang outs. One can actually increase mystery on social media by posting tiny glimpses or clues of their life through pictures but just an amount where ppl wonder but don't know what the person is up to and who he/she is hanging out with and so forth and …
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:57 PM
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Yeah she said she wanted to be friends. And I said I'd rather focus my free time on dating than freindship. And she said she understands. So, I think its pretty much over now. I'm debating whether to unfollow her (and remove her follow) from instagram, what do u think? The only thing is that, sometimes in the past, girls have said to me that they just want to be friends and then they later changed their mind and then at that point I didn't want to be more than friends. Sometimes, they see that u…
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:30 PM
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That person cannot be a dating coach because everything she is saying shows a lack of comprehension of how dating works. There is absolutely nothing wrong in creating sexual tension, its part of the dating process. And there is also nothing wrong with the statement that women don't know what they want. Because they don't. When a woman talks about what she wants, she is simply trying to interpret her own complex feelings and emotions. And women are often very wrong in this interpretation process.…
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:18 PM
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this is just bad advice - if ur really a dating coach, ur not a good one. Sorry.
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:13 PM
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Yes, 90% kiss closes are solid. Can you share an example first date and what kind of escalation steps you use that work especially well? What do you do if the girl doesn't really respond to the escalation? As in, doesn't respond negatively but also doesn't respond positively?
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:05 PM
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great points. What do you do when, as you mentioned, no kiss after 2 or 3 dates and you are heading towards the friend direction but yet she still seems ready to go on more dates? Yet on the dates, she just doesn't respond to the physical escalation? As in, no response, not a good or bad but just no response to the physical escalation? Do you just tell her you don't think this is going anywhere and stop the dating? I ran into this and I finally just straight up asked her if I can kiss her goodni…
/r/seduction10/08/21 05:03 PM
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how did the moment first happen when it went from just friends to casually physical?
/r/seduction09/08/21 11:15 PM
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lol how does it go to sex so far if u struggle to meet up with women? Can you give an example of how one of ur first dates turns into sex? Like are u going to dinner or what are u doing? Drinks? As others have stated, you might be giving off the vibe as a one-night stand type of guy.
/r/seduction08/08/21 07:33 AM
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I don't know if most women agree or not with you. And I don't know anything about you - are you a female that guys find attractive and sought after? Or not? That also is a factor. I feel like women that have many guys after them might have better experience with guys who knew what they were doing and didn't need to ask them and that then becomes the standard. I strongly believe it should be a natural thing that happens within the flow. Asking for it, as I did, is not ideal but it happened to wor…
/r/seduction07/08/21 08:59 PM
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Agreed!
/r/seduction07/08/21 08:55 PM
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so if you read my posts in the thread, I clearly stated that we did kiss on the 4th date. So what you are saying is "lying" is completely incorrect. We did kiss on the 4th date but I didn't like the fact that I had to ask for it instead of it happening through the natural process. Make sense? And, secondly, you didn't answer any of my questions which furthers the notion that you have no clue what you are talking about. I will give you one more chance - why don't you give me an example of one or …
/r/seduction07/08/21 08:54 PM
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Well she never rejected the kiss. I ended up straight up asking for the kiss at the end of the night and she said yes without hesitation and it was good. But, to be clear, I never ask and I am not in favor of asking. I believe it should happen naturally in the process of escalation. I have never experienced this kind of situation before and I have plenty of dating experience so its not like I'm a novice or something. But, def confused with where she's at.
/r/seduction07/08/21 06:00 AM
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I think he is right to an extent though. Asking can be a buzz kill. It should be a natural thing where its a continuous flow of energy and attraction. Words are not necessary in an ideal situation in my honest opinion. In fact, words can kill it. They say 90% of communication is bod language and that is very applicable here. Asking to kiss is never something I have done but I ended up doing it here and it happened to work but I am still overall confused by the whole situation.
/r/seduction07/08/21 05:58 AM
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So, interestingly, I also don't believe in asking but I ended up doing it and it for the first time ever with this girl and it worked very well. She said yes with no hesitation, it was at the end of the night and it turned out to be a good kiss. I don't like asking bc it doesn't feel natural. Still though, I don't know how to assess the situation. I expected the escalation steps to work, especially when there is wine involved, we are alone and all. But, it didn't. But then she said yes at the en…
/r/seduction07/08/21 05:56 AM
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So, I actually did end up doing this but I don't personally believe it is the way. We ended up kissing on the most recent date but I had to ask and I don't it because it is not a natural flow but it turned out to be a good kiss and she said yes without any hesitation. I believe it should be natural in the flow of the hangout where it is 100% obvious both want it and then like magnets coming together, it just happens. I am just really having a lot of trouble reading and understanding this girl wh…
/r/seduction07/08/21 05:51 AM
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lol i've seen those. They recommend exactly what I did, escalation steps. Why don't you give me an example of one or two things that you would specifically do "to be a man"? Otherwise, you just kind of sound like all talk no substance.
/r/seduction07/08/21 05:48 AM
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honestly, the truth is it depends. There is no one approach. For example a woman who is very beautiful and used to creeps will be more inclined to think a guy who is starting at her is a creep when compared to a woman who perhaps does not get quite that much attention. It really depends. It also depends how you are looking at her? There is a creepy way to look and a non-creepy way to look.
/r/seduction18/05/21 11:19 PM
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A lot of times I think women think they know themselves but really don't. They are just trying to interpret themselves and other women and its just as hard for them. That's why you here girls say things like "I just want a nice guy" but never really go for a nice guy. They have no clue what they want. Then a nice guy comes, and they are confused why they are not attracted whatsoever. I think a guy should not listen to what women say (no offense) and instead just focus on principles of attraction…
/r/seduction18/05/21 11:14 PM
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I agree with you that in person is better. But do you think one should also keep a Bumble account for example and just not focus too much on it? In another words, put all the effort on in-person dating but have a passive online dating existence? Especially because with Bumble, the women are supposed to do the work so why not have an account if it can generate a date here and there that could be a decent girl? Secondly, even with in-person dating, the question will come up at some point as to whe…
/r/seduction21/01/20 09:21 PM
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This is amazing! Do you, by chance, have any material on Dating Apps and Social Media best practices and techniques? How to quickly and efficiently go from dating app match to phone number to date? When is the right time in the process to connect on Social Media like Facebook/Instagram? Any techniques on how to get women off of Facebook/Instagram?
/r/seduction21/01/20 06:51 AM
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Agreed but I am very new to online dating so I don't know typically when/how it is appropriate to ask for a number upon matching. Or do ppl just set up a date through the app and then exchange numbers after the first meeting, you know?
/r/seduction06/01/20 10:16 AM
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what do you mean hope so? I thought you were in the cruise so you would have observed the male to female ratio? Was it a fun cruise? What were the pros and cons?
/r/seduction20/02/19 09:25 PM
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four and four? You mean 50% women 50% men?
/r/seduction20/02/19 02:52 AM
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what is the male to female ratio like? Which one did you go on?
/r/seduction19/02/19 07:54 PM
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you made a joke that you live in your mom's basement and that led to a date? you told her not to send a dick pic?
/r/seduction16/02/19 09:15 PM
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This is a great post but one thing I will say. Even though it may seem there are thousands of girls in the city, you have to subtract the ones that are married, then you have to subtract the ones that are fat and ugly, then you have to subtract the ones that are hot but psychos. So, while there isn't scarcity, there is also some limits too
/r/seduction16/02/19 12:00 AM

go up to the hot girl and what? can you give an example of how it could be done?
/r/seduction15/02/19 11:47 PM
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where to find these events? eventbrite?
/r/seduction15/02/19 11:46 PM
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what's daygame?
/r/seduction15/02/19 11:26 PM
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thanks! I found the pdf, wow it is long but well thought out. I will definitely read it...if nothing else I will understand women better. Do you think it helps for someone looking for something serious? Or just for guys looking to sleep with a lot of women? I'm the former.
/r/seduction05/07/18 06:41 AM
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if u remember where you got the pdf, send me a private message! did you learn a lot from the book?
/r/seduction05/07/18 04:40 AM
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Pandoras box by vin dicarlo looks interesting....its kinda expensive $80...have you read it? worth the buy?
/r/seduction04/07/18 08:13 PM
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